August 31, 2022 • 22 mins
Episode 2: WAS IT A KIDNAPPING?
True crime moron Bo Brimley now believes her "missing" husband may have been kidnapped. To figure out how likely this is, she interviews a forensic scientist, Pat Newbury. She also gives a call to Detective Mullins to plead her kidnapping case.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A flash of light, an angry fight, no luckage insight,
my darkest night. I'm Bo Brimley and my husband went
missing a few days ago, so I decided to start
a podcast to get to the bottom of where he
is so my baby can come home. This is Tucked.
Welcome back to Tucked. You know why I'm here, It's
(00:23):
because my husband is missing. It hits me differently every day.
That's the thing. When your husband gets tucked, you never
know what's going to trigger you. For example, I had
to renew my license today, and that's when it hit me.
I remember when Greg was stuck in a D n
B waiting room and he was there for so long.
He was so miserable. He's he got really really cold,
(00:45):
and he just screamed at every employee there, and then
he bumped his way to the front of the line
just from screaming. And sometimes I think about that store
and I just I just missed him. So, you know,
I hope wherever he is he's close to escaping coming
home to me, because you know, I know, I know
when my baby gets a temper, he can make a
rash decision that affects everybody around him. And that's what
(01:08):
I think is going to lead him to escape his
his captors. So just talking about my husband makes me
so emotional. But I'm actually really lucky here today to
have an expert with me to talk about my husband's
vicious probably kidnapping. Um a real doctor, your doctor, right? Yes?
I am a doctor. Yes, okay, forensic doctor that's like
(01:30):
fingerprints and stuff. Dr Pat Newberry? Um, pat, Dr Pat? Uh? Yeah,
what's your whole deal? Thank you for having me on.
I've been a forensic scientists for fifteen years. I went
to the University of Chicago to get my PhD in forensics. Oh,
thank you. Yes, and I had a specification in hair follicles. Um, well,
(01:57):
I have a book coming out next fall. These crimes
are solved because I do selve almost all the crimes. Okay,
that is freaking incredible. I have some of my husband's hair,
But do I have to break it out now that
I keep sort of privately and like a little vile.
If the hair was pulled or fallen out in or
around the time that your husband disappeared, then yes, it
(02:19):
would be very important to look at these hair follows
from prior stuff like a day prior, because even then
that could have some relevance to the case, or even
two days sometimes. No, this is just from other stuff
like the shower and whatever. I'll just like put it
in a little old because that's not helpful. Um no,
(02:40):
not unless we're, you know, comparing DNA samples. Okay, Well,
I got I got other ship here. Um, I do
have this pen. Okay, I'm not going to touch it.
I'm gonna kinda elbow it towards you. Okay, Well you
don't have to do Okay, loves would be kidnapped preferable,
but this is fine. Should I drop that? Should I
drop that? Okay? Oh gosh, sorry, okay, well I have
(03:02):
other stuff. I have other stuff. I mean, we can
take a look at the pen. We can see what Yeah,
check it out. Yeah, okay, it looks like a professional pen.
It has a hotel name on it. Yeah, he loves
going here? Oh okay, well did you call the hotel? This?
This could be a first clue. This is l park.
(03:23):
I called this hotel and I asked him is my
husband staying here? And they were like yes, And then
I got scared and I hung up because that I thought,
maybe that's the kidnapper. But then when I called again,
it really did sound like a hotel, and I was like,
that's crazy. My husband wouldn't be staying at a hotel.
He's been kidnapped, you know what I mean. I didn't
think that was anything. Okay, I well, let me let
me just stop you there, because it sounds like your
(03:45):
husband is at this hotel and not in fact missing
as you first told me. Why would my husband be
at a hotel without me? Is he taking a vacation
to surprise me? Well, I can't speak to what a person.
Why a person goes to a hotel. The motivation is
specific to each person. I thought you were a forensic
(04:06):
expert and you could tell of a bunch of stuff.
So WHI my husband be at a hotel with him?
While I look at the clues and I derive conclusions
based on the clues, and right now, the conclusion that
I'm deriving from this clue, which, to be fair, is
the first clue, right, but a pretty strong one. Okay,
I see what you say. It's a first clue. It's
(04:26):
leading us in a direction we don't know where we have.
We have our B on the Bengo card, we don't
have ango yet. Sure, and looking at this first clue
as it is, it does seem like your husband is
at this hotel and not in fact kidnapped. Okay, well,
ms the doctor smarty pants, let me ask you this. Okay. So,
(04:46):
for instance, I've been, you know, monitoring our credit cards. Right,
so we we each had our own individual credit cards.
But I once I snuck a little glance at his passwords,
so I know what it is. It's awesome. So I
logged into his credit card and right now, you know, normally,
when he's not fucking fighting for his life, his credit card,
(05:09):
he only uses it first off, like groceries and electronics
and healthcare and you know, random coffee purchases, food desserts,
you know, bus fare or whatever uber stuff like that.
That's what we'll use it for. And I'm noticing something crazy,
which is that the cards being used on the same
exact things groceries, electronics, bus fair stuff on Amazon that
(05:34):
my husband uses his credit card for. And he's mimicking
all the purchases. He's stealing this freak of stealing his identity. Okay,
I just listen. I have a lot of experience dealing
with many different kinds of criminals, you know, throughout my
storied career, not to mention all of the ones I've
studied in my academic career. And I have to say,
(05:57):
having someone's credit card information and the re purchases is huge,
a huge clue. But the way you're describing it to
me tells me that your husband is living his life
separate from you, probably in this hotel by accident because
(06:22):
he was taken. Um. I mean, to me as an
expert right now, it does seem like perhaps he did
this on purpose, only because it is so obvious. And
I don't say that to hurt you. I know this
(06:44):
is a very difficult time. Separation can be hugely, hugely chaplenging.
Who said the S word? Who said the ask we're here?
You said that was word? I didn't say that sword
and you know your perhaps your husband feels that just
like a i'll separation. I don't know another word for it.
I can't think of one at the moment. But perhaps
(07:05):
he felt that he needed to be away from you.
I don't I'm not a psychologist. I won't delve into
whatever Your interpersonal relationship maybe, but it's a personal relationship
is perfect, it's perfect. We communicate like this that you
know it's so good. Again, not a psychologist, but I
don't know that I've ever heard a person in a
(07:26):
healthy relationship describe said relationship as perfect. Okay, this is
the first thing you said that makes sense. You see,
what we have is unique. You've never seen it before.
So that's why you know that this is some crazy
act of God, this is some crime. Right. Well, I'm
not saying the same thing, okay, because I feel that
(07:46):
we're saying very different things. And I'm saying that I
don't think your husband was taken, and I'm trying to
say that as lightly as I can while still getting
the message across. Okay, there's a reason I don't go
to doctors. And this is it. You guys speak in
mumbo jumble all the time. Spit it out. What are
(08:07):
you trying to set You're dancing around it. I do
feel like I was very clear that your husband was
not kidnapped. There is no crime here other than, perhaps
you know, a sociological crime that he did not tell
you he was leaving. You're saying, my husband got out
(08:30):
of our bed, packed his own things in the suitcases
that are now gone with the cloads of his that
are now gone, and on his own accord, took his
(08:51):
car which is now gone, and left somewhere on purpose.
That does same very reasonable to me. But why don't
you tell me what you think happened? This is classic
doctor stuff, so like I got the big fancy degree.
(09:12):
But what do you think is wrong? Let me tell
you a dog, Here's what I think is wrong. I
think he was fucking kidnapped by somebody who's following his
every move, who's ordering the same things he orders from Amazon,
the Sara VSPF fifteen. How could they possibly know? You're
You're suggesting implies that my husband and I have an
(09:33):
issue that just because we got into some gigantic fight
on the night that has happened, that that means he
left me. I mean, what are you talking? You sound
crazy right now? Doc? Okay, you just pointed out that
you had a gigantic fight. This, to me, as a
forensic expert, is a very big red flag. Okay, tell
me why why? It provides motivation? And granted I usually
(09:55):
delve into the hair follicles, the bone fragments, the blood
splattered those are my expertise. But I think this is
very textbook your husband left you with the motivation that
you guys got into a huge fight prior, and his
things are missing. There is no sign of foul play,
and he seems to have been confirmed to be at
(10:17):
this hotel. So I to me, this is a very
cut and dry case, if you could even call it
a case. She didn't even look at the fingerprints in
the pen or my teeth marks on it. You didn't
even look and your teeth marks on it. I got
so nervous because my husband was kidnapped. I was biting
the pen. Is that okay? Oh no, you disturbed the evidence.
(10:38):
You can't bite on evidence. Well, maybe you guys should
all can say that at the store when you buy
the pet, you can't bite this. Who could be evidence?
You stay at the store. I don't work at the store.
Well maybe you should work at the store because you're
not do it no business being a doctor. Okay, just
(11:04):
for my peace of mind, I brought a few more
items I want you to check out. Is that okay?
I at this point I want to see where this goes. Okay,
So this this is a an old receipt. This is
a receipt piece of paper. Can you find anything on
a piece of paper. Yeah, you could find fingerprints, you
(11:24):
can find DNA evidence. In some cases. The way that
it's crumpled could be a clue. The length of it,
And that's not even getting into what is on the receipt,
where the receipt came from, at what time it can
place our victims, it can it can really solidify the
timeline of our victims and our perpetrators. Okay, um, well,
(11:48):
I don't want to eat the evidence or whatever you said,
so maybe you want to handle it. I think it
was a train ticket or something, a train ticker receipt,
but I don't I don't want to eat the evidence. Yes,
I'm seeing this is a train ticket for the night
of his disappearance in the evening. So what do we
(12:08):
think he is trying to escape and he bought a
train ticket? You know, I don't see any evidence here.
There's no perforation where a return ticket might be. So
it does suggest that your husband, whose name is on
this train ticket receipt, went to a place with the
intention of staying there for a good deal of time.
(12:31):
Are you saying like a grave, like a kidnapper, bought
a one way too? Is this a metaphor like or something. No,
I'm being very very sincere in saying that I think
your husband used this train ticket to skip town. And actually,
(12:51):
if you look very closely, if you see the right
hand corner right here where I'm indicating, there seems to
be some kind of faint lipstick print, it would be
very strange to kiss a receipt. I don't know that
that's what happened, but perhaps you know when someone puts
a receipt in their mouth to hold onto it while
they check their pockets or something. Oh my god, I
(13:16):
see what you're saying. Great, the kidnapper, where's makeup? Oh? Um?
Or I mean, yes, a supermodel, a clown, somebody, while
the clues point to the receipt being fully intact, again
suggesting there was no foul play, again suggest there is
(13:38):
a reason they gave you a doctor certificate. Okay, we're
gonna take this to some pros too, because I think
this is actually a huge crack in the case. It's
like I am a proper. No, no, you're a pro,
but you know you've had a couple of fumbles tonight,
so I don't know how much I trust you. But
I've got a guy who is all over this case too,
(13:59):
And I think he's going to really appreciate um us
bringing some new evidence because he's been up my fucking
ask if I get new evidence, give him a call.
Sometimes he plays a game where he doesn't want to
pick off. So this is Mullins, Mullins, Mullins, it's bow Brimley.
(14:23):
Don't hang up. If you hang up, I'll die Mullets. Okay,
I'm with a doctor. Good because you need help in
your brain. No, I don't need help in my brain.
If you tell me that one more time, I'll drive
myself into the ocean. I am with a doctor right now,
and she has a clue to tell you once and
for all that my husband was freaking kidnapped. Okay, miss Bremlyn,
(14:45):
you waste so much of my time. I talked to
you more than I talked to my son. All right,
you waste so much of my time. Okay, you want
to talk about an inter personal relationship that needs the
hell Well, I have to say this was a misrepresentation
of what I was pointing out because what I point
out it was not evidence towards the kidnapping. It was
evidence towards an affair an affair to remember Cole and
(15:07):
a kidnapping. You see the smart This is more open
and shut than a pizza box with an anchovie pizza
in it. All right, no one wants it. All right,
They look at it, They opened the pizza and they say, no,
this is over See. This is why I don't trust
the texts. You doctors are talking about lingo bingo, you're
talking mumbo jumbo. Detective legally is that I can't freaking understand.
(15:28):
What's the brass talk? Huh bears taxes? Your husband left you,
all right, he left you for another woman and that's
the end of it. Okay, here's what's crazy. You guys
are both saying that he left with a woman, so
that a woman is the kidnapper. So you guys both
agree with me. The only thing if if there's a
(15:51):
kidnapping that's happening, the only thing that was kidnapped was
probably your husband's heart or his penis. Dr Newberry m hmm.
According to Detective Mullins, this fucking kidnapper might have taken
out my husband's heart for his penis. What do you
need to find those? Yeah, I'm not sure that he
meant that literally and At this point, I really have
(16:13):
to agree with Detective Mullins. It does seem like your
husband left on his own volition for a woman or
a person who wears lipstick. Thank you, this doctor smart?
What the fund do you know about relationships? Mullins? Who's
the customer here? Who's the customer? You haven't paid me
(16:34):
in months? I I don't. I won't take your money
anymore because it's over. Oh I haven't paid you in months,
So you're bringing up the other ship I call you about. Wow,
your professional, Mullens, your professional. You see this doctor? You
see this? You know now it's thought it's a husband.
But I ken't tell you how many times this lady's
been trying to hire me to do stuff and find
(16:54):
stuff for. Oh, what was you? I'm trying to hire you,
my god, and this is to me you should be
so lucky. Just I think this is a case of
needing to take accountability for maybe your actions and your actually, Mullins,
this doctor said, you need to take accountability for your
fucking inaction. Again a misrepresentation of what I was trying
(17:16):
to say. I was clearly gesticulating towards you. Bo. I
do hope you you yeah, you need to look. We
we went through all the clues. We went through everything
we could. We detailed it, even though it was so
clear from the beginning that your husband was not kidnapped. Yeah,
(17:36):
he bought a train ticket, he went to a hotel
with a lady. And now they're off Galliphanton. They're probably in,
uh the Bahamas or something. That's where I go, the Bahamas.
Oh my god, Mullins, is the first small thing you
said in your whole fucking life. My husband loves the Bahamas.
I need to check the Bahamas. Yeah, well listen, brim,
(17:58):
will you have you book your flight to the Bahamas
and then plush your cellphone in the ocean? Okay, because
don't call me anymore. I'm not talking myself phone in
the ocean. I'm talking myself in the ocean if I
can't find myself the husband. Yeah, I got a question.
What is bow? What's that stand for Boa? Did you
say your birth name is just bo? Yeah? What? Your
(18:20):
parents never got tired right in the rest of your
name on the birth certificate. No, they gave me a
real long name. What's your name Agamemnon like the King
of the Archives. Yeah, his wife Clytemnestra killed him. I
cannot believe you're the only private eye I found in
the one page of the Yellow Pages that is still
(18:41):
left in my house. Get the Internet. The Yellow Pages
are dead. The Yellow Pages are not that are dead,
not dead. Don't say that. Listen. If there anything, I
have just further proven how little faith I have in
the legal system. Okay, so I'm just gonna to continue
the search on my own. No thanks to the likes
of you, Detective Agga Popop and freaking Dr Newberry over here.
(19:08):
Absolutely useless. Well fucking thanks for nothing. Mullins. Oh, I'm
getting your Philly acs and just talking to you. Get
the hell off the phone. Stop calling me that you
called me. Stop finding me up off a mountain. I
will I care find my husband. Doc. I'm sorry you
had to see those. It was very aggressive, I have
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to say on both ends, but mostly yours. Thank you,
Thank you. Us women have to stand up for ourselves.
We gotta lean in. No, I don't think that's what
that means. Yeah, Lenan, so you can spit len In.
Oh um. I think it's more about you know, like
salary talks and yeah, the corporate ladder. I thought you
(19:54):
said the seller than what Yeah, that would be that's
not what I said, but crazy, that would be the
whole book. My god, all good thing it's not about that,
because that would it would be boring. Yeah, it would
be boring. I'm glad we could agree on something. At
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least there's that. At loose, there's that. I hate to
tell you this, Doc, but I'm going to have to
write you a bad review on your website. I don't
think you took my case too seriously, and it looks
like I'm going to have to venture out on my
own to find my husband. There's no one who will
take your case more seriously than I just did, and
(20:37):
more compassionately as well. But if you want to waste
your time, if you want to waste your energy and money,
go for it. You know what. Love is freaking worth it, Doc,
And I'm sorry that you don't see that. Is there
anyone in your life? Yeah? Yeah, you don't get it.
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See it's I just said. Yes, I said, it's so
obvious you were lying. Is so freaking obvious you were lying?
And what's your partners say? You give two seconds? Absolutely fake?
That's so fucking fake. What are you talking about you
have no idea. You could look who are on my
website to leave a review. You could see there's a
picture of Joe on my website. Okay, anybody could photoshop
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theirselves next to a guy. It's fucking fake. Listen, once
you fall in love, freaking call me and tell me
if you want to waste your time and energy finding
the love of your absolute life when he was taken
by a vicious criminal wearing lipstick. Well, thank you, guys
for tuning into another episode of Took. I'm sorry that
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there's no news to report on my beautiful missing husband Greg.
But I'm putting a c T a call to action
out there to you, Dr Newberry and to everybody listening
to please help me find my husband and help me
bring my baby home. It help you help you? At Hey, Doc,
(22:02):
you so didn't help me. I'm giving you zero stars.
I might even report you somewhere. You can't. I can't
report a scientist. You literally cannot report you to a
church or something. I'll get you taken out if you want.
I do want until next week. H
A flash of light, an angry fight, no luckage insight,
my darkest night. I'm Bo Brimley and my husband went
missing a few days ago, so I decided to start
a podcast to get to the bottom of where he
is so my baby can come home. This is Tucked.
Welcome back to Tucked. You know why I'm here, It's
(00:23):
because my husband is missing. It hits me differently every day.
That's the thing. When your husband gets tucked, you never
know what's going to trigger you. For example, I had
to renew my license today, and that's when it hit me.
I remember when Greg was stuck in a D n
B waiting room and he was there for so long.
He was so miserable. He's he got really really cold,
(00:45):
and he just screamed at every employee there, and then
he bumped his way to the front of the line
just from screaming. And sometimes I think about that store
and I just I just missed him. So, you know,
I hope wherever he is he's close to escaping coming
home to me, because you know, I know, I know
when my baby gets a temper, he can make a
rash decision that affects everybody around him. And that's what
(01:08):
I think is going to lead him to escape his
his captors. So just talking about my husband makes me
so emotional. But I'm actually really lucky here today to
have an expert with me to talk about my husband's
vicious probably kidnapping. Um a real doctor, your doctor, right? Yes?
I am a doctor. Yes, okay, forensic doctor that's like
(01:30):
fingerprints and stuff. Dr Pat Newberry? Um, pat, Dr Pat? Uh? Yeah,
what's your whole deal? Thank you for having me on.
I've been a forensic scientists for fifteen years. I went
to the University of Chicago to get my PhD in forensics. Oh,
thank you. Yes, and I had a specification in hair follicles. Um, well,
(01:57):
I have a book coming out next fall. These crimes
are solved because I do selve almost all the crimes. Okay,
that is freaking incredible. I have some of my husband's hair,
But do I have to break it out now that
I keep sort of privately and like a little vile.
If the hair was pulled or fallen out in or
around the time that your husband disappeared, then yes, it
(02:19):
would be very important to look at these hair follows
from prior stuff like a day prior, because even then
that could have some relevance to the case, or even
two days sometimes. No, this is just from other stuff
like the shower and whatever. I'll just like put it
in a little old because that's not helpful. Um no,
(02:40):
not unless we're, you know, comparing DNA samples. Okay, Well,
I got I got other ship here. Um, I do
have this pen. Okay, I'm not going to touch it.
I'm gonna kinda elbow it towards you. Okay, Well you
don't have to do Okay, loves would be kidnapped preferable,
but this is fine. Should I drop that? Should I
drop that? Okay? Oh gosh, sorry, okay, well I have
(03:02):
other stuff. I have other stuff. I mean, we can
take a look at the pen. We can see what Yeah,
check it out. Yeah, okay, it looks like a professional pen.
It has a hotel name on it. Yeah, he loves
going here? Oh okay, well did you call the hotel? This?
This could be a first clue. This is l park.
(03:23):
I called this hotel and I asked him is my
husband staying here? And they were like yes, And then
I got scared and I hung up because that I thought,
maybe that's the kidnapper. But then when I called again,
it really did sound like a hotel, and I was like,
that's crazy. My husband wouldn't be staying at a hotel.
He's been kidnapped, you know what I mean. I didn't
think that was anything. Okay, I well, let me let
me just stop you there, because it sounds like your
(03:45):
husband is at this hotel and not in fact missing
as you first told me. Why would my husband be
at a hotel without me? Is he taking a vacation
to surprise me? Well, I can't speak to what a person.
Why a person goes to a hotel. The motivation is
specific to each person. I thought you were a forensic
(04:06):
expert and you could tell of a bunch of stuff.
So WHI my husband be at a hotel with him?
While I look at the clues and I derive conclusions
based on the clues, and right now, the conclusion that
I'm deriving from this clue, which, to be fair, is
the first clue, right, but a pretty strong one. Okay,
I see what you say. It's a first clue. It's
(04:26):
leading us in a direction we don't know where we have.
We have our B on the Bengo card, we don't
have ango yet. Sure, and looking at this first clue
as it is, it does seem like your husband is
at this hotel and not in fact kidnapped. Okay, well,
ms the doctor smarty pants, let me ask you this. Okay. So,
(04:46):
for instance, I've been, you know, monitoring our credit cards. Right,
so we we each had our own individual credit cards.
But I once I snuck a little glance at his passwords,
so I know what it is. It's awesome. So I
logged into his credit card and right now, you know, normally,
when he's not fucking fighting for his life, his credit card,
(05:09):
he only uses it first off, like groceries and electronics
and healthcare and you know, random coffee purchases, food desserts,
you know, bus fare or whatever uber stuff like that.
That's what we'll use it for. And I'm noticing something crazy,
which is that the cards being used on the same
exact things groceries, electronics, bus fair stuff on Amazon that
(05:34):
my husband uses his credit card for. And he's mimicking
all the purchases. He's stealing this freak of stealing his identity. Okay,
I just listen. I have a lot of experience dealing
with many different kinds of criminals, you know, throughout my
storied career, not to mention all of the ones I've
studied in my academic career. And I have to say,
(05:57):
having someone's credit card information and the re purchases is huge,
a huge clue. But the way you're describing it to
me tells me that your husband is living his life
separate from you, probably in this hotel by accident because
(06:22):
he was taken. Um. I mean, to me as an
expert right now, it does seem like perhaps he did
this on purpose, only because it is so obvious. And
I don't say that to hurt you. I know this
(06:44):
is a very difficult time. Separation can be hugely, hugely chaplenging.
Who said the S word? Who said the ask we're here?
You said that was word? I didn't say that sword
and you know your perhaps your husband feels that just
like a i'll separation. I don't know another word for it.
I can't think of one at the moment. But perhaps
(07:05):
he felt that he needed to be away from you.
I don't I'm not a psychologist. I won't delve into
whatever Your interpersonal relationship maybe, but it's a personal relationship
is perfect, it's perfect. We communicate like this that you
know it's so good. Again, not a psychologist, but I
don't know that I've ever heard a person in a
(07:26):
healthy relationship describe said relationship as perfect. Okay, this is
the first thing you said that makes sense. You see,
what we have is unique. You've never seen it before.
So that's why you know that this is some crazy
act of God, this is some crime. Right. Well, I'm
not saying the same thing, okay, because I feel that
(07:46):
we're saying very different things. And I'm saying that I
don't think your husband was taken, and I'm trying to
say that as lightly as I can while still getting
the message across. Okay, there's a reason I don't go
to doctors. And this is it. You guys speak in
mumbo jumble all the time. Spit it out. What are
(08:07):
you trying to set You're dancing around it. I do
feel like I was very clear that your husband was
not kidnapped. There is no crime here other than, perhaps
you know, a sociological crime that he did not tell
you he was leaving. You're saying, my husband got out
(08:30):
of our bed, packed his own things in the suitcases
that are now gone with the cloads of his that
are now gone, and on his own accord, took his
(08:51):
car which is now gone, and left somewhere on purpose.
That does same very reasonable to me. But why don't
you tell me what you think happened? This is classic
doctor stuff, so like I got the big fancy degree.
(09:12):
But what do you think is wrong? Let me tell
you a dog, Here's what I think is wrong. I
think he was fucking kidnapped by somebody who's following his
every move, who's ordering the same things he orders from Amazon,
the Sara VSPF fifteen. How could they possibly know? You're
You're suggesting implies that my husband and I have an
(09:33):
issue that just because we got into some gigantic fight
on the night that has happened, that that means he
left me. I mean, what are you talking? You sound
crazy right now? Doc? Okay, you just pointed out that
you had a gigantic fight. This, to me, as a
forensic expert, is a very big red flag. Okay, tell
me why why? It provides motivation? And granted I usually
(09:55):
delve into the hair follicles, the bone fragments, the blood
splattered those are my expertise. But I think this is
very textbook your husband left you with the motivation that
you guys got into a huge fight prior, and his
things are missing. There is no sign of foul play,
and he seems to have been confirmed to be at
(10:17):
this hotel. So I to me, this is a very
cut and dry case, if you could even call it
a case. She didn't even look at the fingerprints in
the pen or my teeth marks on it. You didn't
even look and your teeth marks on it. I got
so nervous because my husband was kidnapped. I was biting
the pen. Is that okay? Oh no, you disturbed the evidence.
(10:38):
You can't bite on evidence. Well, maybe you guys should
all can say that at the store when you buy
the pet, you can't bite this. Who could be evidence?
You stay at the store. I don't work at the store.
Well maybe you should work at the store because you're
not do it no business being a doctor. Okay, just
(11:04):
for my peace of mind, I brought a few more
items I want you to check out. Is that okay?
I at this point I want to see where this goes. Okay,
So this this is a an old receipt. This is
a receipt piece of paper. Can you find anything on
a piece of paper. Yeah, you could find fingerprints, you
(11:24):
can find DNA evidence. In some cases. The way that
it's crumpled could be a clue. The length of it,
And that's not even getting into what is on the receipt,
where the receipt came from, at what time it can
place our victims, it can it can really solidify the
timeline of our victims and our perpetrators. Okay, um, well,
(11:48):
I don't want to eat the evidence or whatever you said,
so maybe you want to handle it. I think it
was a train ticket or something, a train ticker receipt,
but I don't I don't want to eat the evidence. Yes,
I'm seeing this is a train ticket for the night
of his disappearance in the evening. So what do we
(12:08):
think he is trying to escape and he bought a
train ticket? You know, I don't see any evidence here.
There's no perforation where a return ticket might be. So
it does suggest that your husband, whose name is on
this train ticket receipt, went to a place with the
intention of staying there for a good deal of time.
(12:31):
Are you saying like a grave, like a kidnapper, bought
a one way too? Is this a metaphor like or something. No,
I'm being very very sincere in saying that I think
your husband used this train ticket to skip town. And actually,
(12:51):
if you look very closely, if you see the right
hand corner right here where I'm indicating, there seems to
be some kind of faint lipstick print, it would be
very strange to kiss a receipt. I don't know that
that's what happened, but perhaps you know when someone puts
a receipt in their mouth to hold onto it while
they check their pockets or something. Oh my god, I
(13:16):
see what you're saying. Great, the kidnapper, where's makeup? Oh? Um?
Or I mean, yes, a supermodel, a clown, somebody, while
the clues point to the receipt being fully intact, again
suggesting there was no foul play, again suggest there is
(13:38):
a reason they gave you a doctor certificate. Okay, we're
gonna take this to some pros too, because I think
this is actually a huge crack in the case. It's
like I am a proper. No, no, you're a pro,
but you know you've had a couple of fumbles tonight,
so I don't know how much I trust you. But
I've got a guy who is all over this case too,
(13:59):
And I think he's going to really appreciate um us
bringing some new evidence because he's been up my fucking
ask if I get new evidence, give him a call.
Sometimes he plays a game where he doesn't want to
pick off. So this is Mullins, Mullins, Mullins, it's bow Brimley.
(14:23):
Don't hang up. If you hang up, I'll die Mullets. Okay,
I'm with a doctor. Good because you need help in
your brain. No, I don't need help in my brain.
If you tell me that one more time, I'll drive
myself into the ocean. I am with a doctor right now,
and she has a clue to tell you once and
for all that my husband was freaking kidnapped. Okay, miss Bremlyn,
(14:45):
you waste so much of my time. I talked to
you more than I talked to my son. All right,
you waste so much of my time. Okay, you want
to talk about an inter personal relationship that needs the
hell Well, I have to say this was a misrepresentation
of what I was pointing out because what I point
out it was not evidence towards the kidnapping. It was
evidence towards an affair an affair to remember Cole and
(15:07):
a kidnapping. You see the smart This is more open
and shut than a pizza box with an anchovie pizza
in it. All right, no one wants it. All right,
They look at it, They opened the pizza and they say, no,
this is over See. This is why I don't trust
the texts. You doctors are talking about lingo bingo, you're
talking mumbo jumbo. Detective legally is that I can't freaking understand.
(15:28):
What's the brass talk? Huh bears taxes? Your husband left you,
all right, he left you for another woman and that's
the end of it. Okay, here's what's crazy. You guys
are both saying that he left with a woman, so
that a woman is the kidnapper. So you guys both
agree with me. The only thing if if there's a
(15:51):
kidnapping that's happening, the only thing that was kidnapped was
probably your husband's heart or his penis. Dr Newberry m hmm.
According to Detective Mullins, this fucking kidnapper might have taken
out my husband's heart for his penis. What do you
need to find those? Yeah, I'm not sure that he
meant that literally and At this point, I really have
(16:13):
to agree with Detective Mullins. It does seem like your
husband left on his own volition for a woman or
a person who wears lipstick. Thank you, this doctor smart?
What the fund do you know about relationships? Mullins? Who's
the customer here? Who's the customer? You haven't paid me
(16:34):
in months? I I don't. I won't take your money
anymore because it's over. Oh I haven't paid you in months,
So you're bringing up the other ship I call you about. Wow,
your professional, Mullens, your professional. You see this doctor? You
see this? You know now it's thought it's a husband.
But I ken't tell you how many times this lady's
been trying to hire me to do stuff and find
(16:54):
stuff for. Oh, what was you? I'm trying to hire you,
my god, and this is to me you should be
so lucky. Just I think this is a case of
needing to take accountability for maybe your actions and your actually, Mullins,
this doctor said, you need to take accountability for your
fucking inaction. Again a misrepresentation of what I was trying
(17:16):
to say. I was clearly gesticulating towards you. Bo. I
do hope you you yeah, you need to look. We
we went through all the clues. We went through everything
we could. We detailed it, even though it was so
clear from the beginning that your husband was not kidnapped. Yeah,
(17:36):
he bought a train ticket, he went to a hotel
with a lady. And now they're off Galliphanton. They're probably in,
uh the Bahamas or something. That's where I go, the Bahamas.
Oh my god, Mullins, is the first small thing you
said in your whole fucking life. My husband loves the Bahamas.
I need to check the Bahamas. Yeah, well listen, brim,
(17:58):
will you have you book your flight to the Bahamas
and then plush your cellphone in the ocean? Okay, because
don't call me anymore. I'm not talking myself phone in
the ocean. I'm talking myself in the ocean if I
can't find myself the husband. Yeah, I got a question.
What is bow? What's that stand for Boa? Did you
say your birth name is just bo? Yeah? What? Your
(18:20):
parents never got tired right in the rest of your
name on the birth certificate. No, they gave me a
real long name. What's your name Agamemnon like the King
of the Archives. Yeah, his wife Clytemnestra killed him. I
cannot believe you're the only private eye I found in
the one page of the Yellow Pages that is still
(18:41):
left in my house. Get the Internet. The Yellow Pages
are dead. The Yellow Pages are not that are dead,
not dead. Don't say that. Listen. If there anything, I
have just further proven how little faith I have in
the legal system. Okay, so I'm just gonna to continue
the search on my own. No thanks to the likes
of you, Detective Agga Popop and freaking Dr Newberry over here.
(19:08):
Absolutely useless. Well fucking thanks for nothing. Mullins. Oh, I'm
getting your Philly acs and just talking to you. Get
the hell off the phone. Stop calling me that you
called me. Stop finding me up off a mountain. I
will I care find my husband. Doc. I'm sorry you
had to see those. It was very aggressive, I have
(19:29):
to say on both ends, but mostly yours. Thank you,
Thank you. Us women have to stand up for ourselves.
We gotta lean in. No, I don't think that's what
that means. Yeah, Lenan, so you can spit len In.
Oh um. I think it's more about you know, like
salary talks and yeah, the corporate ladder. I thought you
(19:54):
said the seller than what Yeah, that would be that's
not what I said, but crazy, that would be the
whole book. My god, all good thing it's not about that,
because that would it would be boring. Yeah, it would
be boring. I'm glad we could agree on something. At
(20:16):
least there's that. At loose, there's that. I hate to
tell you this, Doc, but I'm going to have to
write you a bad review on your website. I don't
think you took my case too seriously, and it looks
like I'm going to have to venture out on my
own to find my husband. There's no one who will
take your case more seriously than I just did, and
(20:37):
more compassionately as well. But if you want to waste
your time, if you want to waste your energy and money,
go for it. You know what. Love is freaking worth it, Doc,
And I'm sorry that you don't see that. Is there
anyone in your life? Yeah? Yeah, you don't get it.
(20:57):
See it's I just said. Yes, I said, it's so
obvious you were lying. Is so freaking obvious you were lying?
And what's your partners say? You give two seconds? Absolutely fake?
That's so fucking fake. What are you talking about you
have no idea. You could look who are on my
website to leave a review. You could see there's a
picture of Joe on my website. Okay, anybody could photoshop
(21:20):
theirselves next to a guy. It's fucking fake. Listen, once
you fall in love, freaking call me and tell me
if you want to waste your time and energy finding
the love of your absolute life when he was taken
by a vicious criminal wearing lipstick. Well, thank you, guys
for tuning into another episode of Took. I'm sorry that
(21:42):
there's no news to report on my beautiful missing husband Greg.
But I'm putting a c T a call to action
out there to you, Dr Newberry and to everybody listening
to please help me find my husband and help me
bring my baby home. It help you help you? At Hey, Doc,
(22:02):
you so didn't help me. I'm giving you zero stars.
I might even report you somewhere. You can't. I can't
report a scientist. You literally cannot report you to a
church or something. I'll get you taken out if you want.
I do want until next week. H
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