September 7, 2022 • 26 mins
Episode 3: WAS IT A MURDER?
True crime dimwit Bo Brimley now believes her "missing" husband was murdered. To learn more about murderers at large, she sits down with new friend Billie Zimmerman, whose boyfriend was murdered in a Kmart. She also gives a call to Detective Mullins to assert her husband may have been killed.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A flash of light, an angry fight, no luggage in sight,
my darkest night. I'm Bo Brimley and my husband went
missing a few days ago, so I decided to start
a podcast to get to the bottom of where he
is so my baby can come home. This is Tooked.
Welcome back everyone today has been really hard. To be honest,
(00:26):
my husband is still gone. Um hashtag find Greg. I
talked to my therapist about it. I said, Okay, what
makes a guy or gal or a person just up
and take another human being from their bed where they
were sleeping softly after an argument with their wife? You
know what makes them take that person's stuff and luggage?
(00:47):
But we their wedding ring almost like it was thrown,
you know, like like you're throwing out trash or something crazy.
You know what, what kind of sick funck does all that?
And I don't know, And it makes me worry that
the sick funk that did it, that it's too late
from my Greg, that maybe he's been kidnapped and I
(01:08):
haven't found him in time. Greggy. Maybe I haven't found
him in time, and now maybe he's murdered and maybe
he's called You know, I was flipping through the channels
and I was I was watching tennis and just thinking
how much I hated it. Was like, oh, I used
to complete the greg about hating this ship, and I thought, Wow,
we still have ESPN two. Craig used to say, you know,
(01:30):
I'd rather note than cancel my ESPN too. So I mean,
does that mean something like like he's still alive? Maybe?
So I'm just worried, like what does that mean? Like
we still have ESPN two, but like I don't know,
maybe somebody's like posing as him just to make me
think that he's still around. Just the oldest trick in
(01:51):
the murderer's book. And I just worried I'm too late,
and so so I wanted to talk to someone who
it is too late for her because her boyfriend was murdered.
We met in a grief group I joined this morning,
and um, we hit it off right away because we're
both sawing probably and we kind of talked about how
semi of our situations are. So I want to introduce
(02:13):
to the podcast Billy's Immerman. Billy Welcome, Hi, thank you
so much for having me. Yeah, thanks for kind of
hanging around all day. I know, Um, you know, we
had the grief group and you were like, I live
really far away. I was like, please me on the podcast,
and so I kind of made you hang around my
house and from from the morning till the evening. Well
that's that's okay. The lean cuisine your microwaved for me
(02:36):
was delicious, awesome. I appreciate just just hanging out. So
glad um billy. I know you had your own, um
brush with death via somebody else, brushing death directly. Um,
so could you tell us what a really horrible thing
(02:56):
happened to you that I relate to. Sure. My boyfriend
Chad and I were at Kmart and we were going
up the escalator after having picked up our Caprice son
that we were there to buy, and as we ascended, uh,
someone pushed Chad over the railing of the escalator and
(03:19):
he was chopped in half as we hit the second
the second floor. My god, it's like you're reading a
page from my book. This is like so freaking relatable
to me right now. Like before this happened, I didn't
honestly get you know, grief and when people would talk
about like death, like lose losing somebody. But now I'm
(03:42):
like I feel it. I just feel at Greg's in
peril and it's like and he's gone, and I feel
that law. So I really really sympathize with you, Billy.
Thank you so much. You know, grief comes out of nowhere.
Someone once told me that grief is good minus the
hood at in the reef, and that has really resonated
(04:04):
with me for a long time. Um, I feel like
I'm just understanding what that means. I used to not
really get it, and I feel like I'm getting it.
You know. My backstory is that, you know, my husband, God,
it feels so weird. I almost used the past tense
since a dead husband, but my husband, he has been missing.
It was up. He was in the middle of the
(04:26):
night we had. We had a pretty big fight that
I woke up. I woke up and I just noticed
all the first tho it was a closer gone and
I was a hot And then I noticed his luggage
was gone, and I was like, oh good what And
he was gone. He was gone and all I found
it was like a pen left behind and some receipts
and some trash. It's just all his stuff was gone.
(04:47):
And I was like, who kidnapped him and had time
to take all of this stuff. What kind of sucking
monster with a U haul came here? And it was
just so fucking upsetic and and and I'm just worried.
It's been it's been a few days now since I've
heard from him, and you know, someone at the fucking
to be like he left you, and I was like,
(05:07):
that's fucking crazy. Yeah, I'm so sorry about that. You
know what I'll say. As I mentioned before, the man
that killed my Chad is still at large. So okay,
I'm not sure what I'm not sure what else he's done.
I can't say or not say that he didn't hurt
your husband as well. Okay, I have a question, and
(05:29):
I'm sorry if this is painful. Did he have like
red lips? Absolutely? Absolutely? I used to always call him
my Swedish fish lipped boy. Oh my god. Wait okay,
so I actually meant did the murderer have red lips?
But dad had red lips? I think that's all. I'm
not sure. The man was wearing a Ronald Reagan mask
(05:51):
when he pushed my chat, so I never saw him.
But but my my boyfriend Chad did have red lips. Wow. Okay,
well that's and he didn't he hasn't murdered her, kidnapped anyone, right,
Well he is dead, Okay, that's true. You said that, Okay,
because we had this like forensic fucking loser doctor on
(06:13):
the thing that that she was saying was like, I
found this receipt that had like a little red lipsick. Sorry,
it was a receipt for like a train ticket whatever,
And this fucking losers were like, oh, oh my god,
it's probably an affair. And I was like, uh no,
you stupid bitches. Women and people who were makeup in
general can be murderers too. That is the equality I
(06:34):
want to live in. And so they just like, don't
blew my theory that maybe someone was out there. So
I'm wondering, maybe, yeah, maybe your murderer has red lips
or wears lipstick or something and goes to hotels with
people and goes on train trips with them, and maybe
they freaking murdered Greg. Maybe. I don't know. What I
will say is my boyfriend Chad was a train conductor. Billy.
(07:00):
When did Chad died? Chad died in two thousand thirty
two thirteen, was eight years ago, December on Christmas. Every
year on Christmas chat and I would go to the kmart.
We would get Capri son, we'd come home, we'd put
(07:22):
him in the freezer. We'd take him out of the freezer.
Once they were frozen, we'd cut open the packaging and
then we had big popsicles on tiny little straw sticks.
And that is what we did every year on Christmas. Wow,
cold on cold, Oh my god. Okay, if I'm doing
the math correctly, if your husband was murdered, sorry, boyfriend
(07:43):
was murdered in two thousand thirteen, and my husband was
taken from me a few days ago, I don't think
that math checks out. I gotta be honest. I almost
kind of came at you really, really, really fucking hard,
because I was like, your husband very clearly murdered. My sorry,
your boyfriend, you weren't married at all. Well, I have
a theory. I have a theory. Okay, go on. My
(08:06):
theory is that Chad was going to propose to me
on that Christmas Day. Okay, well, I guess you know
that's like conjecture and we don't really know that would
have happened. I think he was going to Okay, Billy,
not to be rude, but this is like a podcast
about like facts and not just like random projections and crazy. Well,
(08:30):
I just think maybe he was because he kept saying,
I can't wait to ring in the new year with you,
and he had never said that to me before. He
had never even mentioned New Year's Eve, New Year's Day.
He didn't say the word ring often. We had a
ring doorbell and he wouldn't even call it that, And
all of a sudden, he's sang ring. And that made
(08:52):
me think that he was going to propose to me
right after he right after when he did actually die.
You you literally do sound crazy. So I'm just going
to kind of put a pin in that and move on,
just because again, this is a podcast for Fox. So
here's my thing. I just feel like I have clues,
I have evidence, but I don't have anywhere to take it.
(09:15):
And this is where I'm like time is running out
and I've still not heard from my Greg. So let
me ask you. You saw your husband's boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend,
not married, number numbered, soon to be fiance. Okay, you
saw him get murdered, right, I did, Yes, So there
was no what happened like like, well, there is what happened.
(09:38):
What happened? He was murdered by a stranger wearing a
Ronald Reagan mask, and I don't know who it was,
and the murderer is still at large. You know, I'm
trying to think. I'm like, was there's someone with the
Ronald Reagan mask in my room that they greg got taken?
I'm like trying to remember. I don't remember anything like that,
and I usually get up, but what think? What if?
(10:00):
What the Oh my god? What if this is just
like a serial killer out on the fucking loose, you know, absolutely,
Like I'm telling you, his underwear is god, his cologne,
his face creams gone. I mean, this is clearly an
unwell person. They took all this ship in the middle
of the night. Serial Killers do go dormant, That's what
(10:23):
I'll say. So I can't speak to whether or not
your boyfriend is a lot. We got married, we have
beautiful photos. Well, okay, this is um, it's kind of
a lot. This is kind of a lot. I'm gonna
call my detective guy because I think this is a
kind of crucial intel. This Ronald Reagan thing is huge.
(10:46):
I wonder if even maybe your friend having the red
lips is huge or interesting to him. He was my
almost fiance. Okay, he is my almost literally. Okay, he
was my almost literally. Okay, I lost my virginity to him. Okay,
(11:08):
we all probably did. I'm gonna call detective right now.
Spitch sometimes doesn't answer my calls. We're sorry, but the
phone number you were trying to call has been blocked
by the wireless. Okay, I'm gonna try a good he's
likes to wait. Actually, give me your phone. Who's this?
(11:30):
Who's the background? That's Chad. That's right after he was murdered.
This is a gruesome picture. I never want to forget
what happened that day. I got it. I mean, I
get it. I have all people. I mean, look at
my background on my phone. That's your husband. This is
(11:51):
my husband. You two got married, Yes, we got married.
It's an unlikely pair. Oh why because he's six ft
nine and I'm four ft eleven. Because he's wearing a
basketball jersey and I have on a big tube dress.
Why all the things you mentioned, and there's also you know,
(12:12):
very different attractiveness levels. They Okay, oh Mullins, from your
(12:35):
detective Mullins, No crime is to slime minds. It's me.
Don't hang up or I'll kill you. Okay, it's bow no, yeah,
yeah up? What is this? You called me on some
other person's fine owners now yeah wow, you clearly did
go to detective school Mullins. Congratulations. Okay, listen, all right, Brimdley,
(12:57):
what do you want I have with me? A woman
who's friend boyfriend, he was my soon to be fiance
whose friend was murdered at a KMR by a man
in a Ronald Reagan mask. Man in a Ronald Reagan mask.
(13:19):
Does that ring any bows for you? No? Man, and
so think back. So you're trying to make some kind
of connection between this thing that happened in with a
soon to be fiance. Yeah, which, by the way, every
student to be fiance is assumed to be ex wife. Okay,
(13:42):
now you see kind of what I'm dealing with here.
Billy Um, are you single by any chance? Currently? Are
I am? Yeah? Wait? Shut everyone, shut up. Okay, listen.
I am making a connection between a case of in
case you know why, Because Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer,
(14:07):
the Golden State killer. These are people who killed other
people at different times. It didn't all happen on the
same night. There was time between those things. Alright, alright,
let's let's look at the facts. I'm making air quotes
right now fast, but I can't see them. Okay, we
have one murder and one maybe soon to be murder.
(14:29):
To borrow Billy's phraseology, my Gret could be almost Murdergret
could end up like a freaking Matroi's good doll. He
left you? Oh really? Then why did he leave his
wedding ring behind? Because he doesn't want to be reminded
that he's married to you? Oh? Wow? Convenient? So convenient?
(14:51):
Where they teach you that? And fucking tubit detective school? Listen,
think back? What were you like seventy five? Think? Okay,
and think? Was there a Ronald Reagan mask zerial killer
on the Lucien? Did they promise to kill again? No?
But you know this all right? Wait? Are you? Are you?
(15:11):
Billy Zimmerman? Yeah? I am, Yes, I remember your case.
That was wild. Yeah, it's really hard. I saw the
whole thing. It's been really hard for me and I
don't have much comfort at home. And sure, yeah maybe
we could, like I could we could meet up and yeah,
I would love that. Get some pumpkin spice lattes. Absolutely
(15:34):
love that. I've already had three pumpkin spice lattees today too.
I love that blowsip diarrhea. Let's let's stick to the facts. Okay,
here are the fact. A man in a Ronald Reagan
mask pushes a very red lipped man into the crevice
of an escalator at a kmart. He is basically decapitated.
(15:57):
Plus it's his head puzz a little bit of his shoulders. Okay,
it was not as I described earlier. It was like
a Russian nesting doll. He was cut right down the middle, yeah,
had plus a little bit of shoulders. Courso he was
cut at the waist Hamburger style. Okay, fine, we have
a man that was called Hamburger style and a camer Okay, beautiful.
(16:19):
Whatever he dies, he's gone. Now. Almost an identical series
of events, we have a man who disappears from his home.
All his possessions are gone. The things left behind were
(16:40):
a pen, his wedding ring, a train ticket receipt that
had red lips on it. At the very least, maybe
her dead boyfriend freaking took my greg. So now we're
talking ghosts. Is what you're saying. I thought I didn't
(17:02):
say ghosts, I said her dead boyfriend. I thought it
was assumed to be fiancee. Well, technically he's my my
ex boyfriend, and I am I am single, um, and
I would like to disappear from my home and get
a PSL with you. Well we'll talk um alright, alright,
five five five? So well, first of all, they are
(17:24):
completely different. Mos Alright, a man a Reagan mask doing murder.
And if big if finger quotes your Greg is being kidnapped.
You know this murder happened spur of the moment. So
why wasn't you're Greg just straight up killed? You know what?
(17:45):
Maybe maybe he this is so fun. Maybe the reason
why we haven't heard anything this Maybe Ronald Reagan took
my Greg's skin and it'd skin around to every But
he thinks that Mike Greg's a lot because I mean,
(18:05):
what other explanation is there. I mean, I'm the only
one that seems to give a fly and hoot that
he's missing. I would love to just see the inside
of your brain, see these kinds of logical leaps. All right,
you just went to skin murder, And let me tell
you I've seen my fair share skin murders out in
the game. You don't even want to know what I
(18:25):
do want to know. Tell me it's gross, all right.
It takes a lot of work because there's all these
veins and stuff, and your skin is connected to your muscles.
You know, Well, this murderer doesn't have to do a
lot of work. He took all my He took my husband, Sarah,
they he took my husband's little freaking baby foot. He
took everything. I'm sorry when you say he took your
(18:47):
husband's baby foot. I'm just he took the your husband's
foot after it had completed the baby foot process. Or
he took the skin funk. I hope not. I found
the skin. The skin was in the trash after he
did a baby foot. What the what are you? What
the fund are you saying? Baby foot? Baby foot is
(19:07):
a foot exfoliate. You put these little booties on and
then over time the acid rips the skin off of
your feet, the dead skin, and it comes off like
little eraser shavings throughout the day. That was in the trash.
I found all of that. I put that where it's
supposed to go. I put that away. That was all there,
but he had extra baby for. He does baby for
(19:29):
every like a few weeks, you know, to keep his
feet off. Those were all gone. It's murdered. They took
by Greg. And that's why I've always fucking cares, because
just some man walking around with his skin out there friendly.
You gotta get help. I know I'm trying to, but
you won't help me. Brain help, I said. I keep
saying this. I said it over and over again. You
gotta get brain help. I'll get brain help when justice
(19:52):
is served for Greg and honestly, Chad dead dead or like, yeah,
let's clear this up. I need to know this before,
like did you check the well, look at the lock
screen on my phone again. Okay, so he's that. I
watched him get cut in half like a Russian nesting dog.
We can get justice for him, but his face is
(20:14):
sort of done. It's just like detectives like you get
their rocks off from saying no, from saying you're a
crazy woman, you're in hysterics. Stop calling me at four
in the morning. Get off my lawn, you know, get
out of my dog's house. You get your rocks off.
Dove and all that ship. My dog is so fucked up.
(20:35):
From that thing that you did when you got into
this house in the middle of the night. Okay, you
don't need to be in his house. He's a trauma dog.
He's a rescue. I know he's a rescue. And I
took him to a show bow wow. Okay, and I
hid in the doghouse because I knew you would have
to come to see the doghouse, and you don't have
to come see me when I'm on your lawn. So
(20:55):
when you came out to give the dog a little
food in the morning, I was there to ask you
to solve my case. Okay, you stay away from my family,
you stay with my dog. Okay, I don't want to
hear from you ever again. You're sick in the head. Okay,
your husband left you. Oh that's rich. Isn't that rich? Billy,
isn't that rich? Isn't that rich? Well? It does sound
(21:17):
like woman to woman. Okay, your husband did leave you.
That's maybe the twelve idea on the list. Okay, whatever, Look,
I gotta go my kids and the principal's office. All right.
Why he burnt down a kmart? Oh wait a minute,
(21:40):
show me a picture of your son. No, you already
know what he looks like. A picture, maybe a Halloween picture.
I'm not showing you pictures. Show me a halloween picture
of your son, Billy, let's connect to find me. You
have my phone number. Son might have murdered your friend.
My son was five years old in two You never
(22:03):
saw that episode of the Simpsons where the baby shoots
the old man. We've all seen it. It was a
television event. You don't think your five year old could
shoot your cartoon. Okay, hey, Billy, are you a dom Riso?
I am switch verse. Thank you so much for him. People.
Don't you hung up? I literally hung up on him
(22:24):
because it's his best saying he's such a fucking pervert
and I hate him. Okay, Billy, you're the first person
that has even vaguely maybe understood my story. Well, no
matter what happened to you, I just want to say,
it's hard losing someone you love. So I hear you
and I see you, and I'm sorry. Thank you for that.
(22:47):
Nobody has said that to me. And you know, like
if Greg well unquote left me, you, Oh, I don't
think that that's true because that literally makes absolutely no sense.
You know, that is a loss that I would have
(23:08):
to deal with and like absolutely, yeah, I mean it's
probably that he was murdered and that's its own special
kind of loss. Sure. Yeah, well either way, I just
want to say that I know the financial struggles that
can be put on a woman after she loses her partner,
and I just want to let you know about a
really interesting opportunity that I have for you where you
(23:32):
have the chance to make your own money as a
woman and become an empowered girl boss in your own right,
where you are part of a multi level marketing scheme.
I am not, Yes you are. Okay, Well, if selling
essential oils to drink is a multi level marketing scheme,
then then I'm in a multileing markets might even be poisonous,
(23:54):
to be honest, Well, it can't be poisonous because there's
no scientific research done on it. Okay, Yeah, find a
SCIENTI agrees, Just like how you're not supposed to eat
bricks and nobody's actually studied that, but you're not supposed
to eat them because we just know. Okay, I'm coming
to you with a really exciting opportunity and all I'm
saying is think about it and let me know if
you're interested, because it's could be huge for you. How
(24:18):
much is the mpry level block? So I need you
to get out, but it's seven essential oils. I need
you to leave. This is kind of one of those
things where it's like, oh, no, the person that agrees
with me is the craziest person in the room. It's
so like I can't really have that following me around.
So I do need you to Okay, Well, having millions
(24:39):
of dollars of essential oils in your basement is crazy,
then call me crazy. Okay, Yeah, that's crazy. And it
sounds like you haven't even sold Well, I just got
them and I'm going to be selling them a lot.
I go to a lot of farmers markets. I'll tell
you that much. Okay, I totally buy that about you.
So thanks so much. I hope they find your your
your friend, Oh sorry he died, Okay, yeah, best wishes
(25:01):
to him in heaven in the afterlife. Did you keep
the bottom half? What happened to the bottom half? No?
That so this is something that hopefully you'll never have
to find out. But the police don't keep the bottom half.
They take the bottom half to a storage facility filled
with ice, where all the halves of people are kept
(25:21):
and you're not allowed to bury it, and you're not
allowed to taxidermy, and you're allowed to take it home
because it is evidence, and they keep it for the
rest of forever. If there's anything wrong with our legal system,
it has to be that. That is so fucked. It's
your friend, it's my husband. I'm now I'm paranoid if
(25:42):
I find Greg skinless somewhere that they're not gonna let
me keep that, don't they won't. Don't tell the police
if you find him skinless. Don't tell the police, because
they're not going to find whoever killed your husband, and
they're just gonna take his body and put it in
a big ice chest you're never gonna be allowed to
go into even if you them, if you can buy
a ticket to it like it's a Museum's country is
(26:04):
so messed up. Thanks so much, Um for joining us.
And guys again, I'm just putting out another call to action.
If you see my Greg skinless, extra skin, regular, amounts
of skin, anything, please please let me know, drop me
a line, email me to send me stail and they'll
(26:26):
call my house called Mullins his house. He doesn't care.
Please please, I just have to find my Greg. Sueit
it next week, where I hope we finally find the
second buck that took him from me.
A flash of light, an angry fight, no luggage in sight,
my darkest night. I'm Bo Brimley and my husband went
missing a few days ago, so I decided to start
a podcast to get to the bottom of where he
is so my baby can come home. This is Tooked.
Welcome back everyone today has been really hard. To be honest,
(00:26):
my husband is still gone. Um hashtag find Greg. I
talked to my therapist about it. I said, Okay, what
makes a guy or gal or a person just up
and take another human being from their bed where they
were sleeping softly after an argument with their wife? You
know what makes them take that person's stuff and luggage?
(00:47):
But we their wedding ring almost like it was thrown,
you know, like like you're throwing out trash or something crazy.
You know what, what kind of sick funck does all that?
And I don't know, And it makes me worry that
the sick funk that did it, that it's too late
from my Greg, that maybe he's been kidnapped and I
(01:08):
haven't found him in time. Greggy. Maybe I haven't found
him in time, and now maybe he's murdered and maybe
he's called You know, I was flipping through the channels
and I was I was watching tennis and just thinking
how much I hated it. Was like, oh, I used
to complete the greg about hating this ship, and I thought, Wow,
we still have ESPN two. Craig used to say, you know,
(01:30):
I'd rather note than cancel my ESPN too. So I mean,
does that mean something like like he's still alive? Maybe?
So I'm just worried, like what does that mean? Like
we still have ESPN two, but like I don't know,
maybe somebody's like posing as him just to make me
think that he's still around. Just the oldest trick in
(01:51):
the murderer's book. And I just worried I'm too late,
and so so I wanted to talk to someone who
it is too late for her because her boyfriend was murdered.
We met in a grief group I joined this morning,
and um, we hit it off right away because we're
both sawing probably and we kind of talked about how
semi of our situations are. So I want to introduce
(02:13):
to the podcast Billy's Immerman. Billy Welcome, Hi, thank you
so much for having me. Yeah, thanks for kind of
hanging around all day. I know, Um, you know, we
had the grief group and you were like, I live
really far away. I was like, please me on the podcast,
and so I kind of made you hang around my
house and from from the morning till the evening. Well
that's that's okay. The lean cuisine your microwaved for me
(02:36):
was delicious, awesome. I appreciate just just hanging out. So
glad um billy. I know you had your own, um
brush with death via somebody else, brushing death directly. Um,
so could you tell us what a really horrible thing
(02:56):
happened to you that I relate to. Sure. My boyfriend
Chad and I were at Kmart and we were going
up the escalator after having picked up our Caprice son
that we were there to buy, and as we ascended, uh,
someone pushed Chad over the railing of the escalator and
(03:19):
he was chopped in half as we hit the second
the second floor. My god, it's like you're reading a
page from my book. This is like so freaking relatable
to me right now. Like before this happened, I didn't
honestly get you know, grief and when people would talk
about like death, like lose losing somebody. But now I'm
(03:42):
like I feel it. I just feel at Greg's in
peril and it's like and he's gone, and I feel
that law. So I really really sympathize with you, Billy.
Thank you so much. You know, grief comes out of nowhere.
Someone once told me that grief is good minus the
hood at in the reef, and that has really resonated
(04:04):
with me for a long time. Um, I feel like
I'm just understanding what that means. I used to not
really get it, and I feel like I'm getting it.
You know. My backstory is that, you know, my husband, God,
it feels so weird. I almost used the past tense
since a dead husband, but my husband, he has been missing.
It was up. He was in the middle of the
(04:26):
night we had. We had a pretty big fight that
I woke up. I woke up and I just noticed
all the first tho it was a closer gone and
I was a hot And then I noticed his luggage
was gone, and I was like, oh good what And
he was gone. He was gone and all I found
it was like a pen left behind and some receipts
and some trash. It's just all his stuff was gone.
(04:47):
And I was like, who kidnapped him and had time
to take all of this stuff. What kind of sucking
monster with a U haul came here? And it was
just so fucking upsetic and and and I'm just worried.
It's been it's been a few days now since I've
heard from him, and you know, someone at the fucking
to be like he left you, and I was like,
(05:07):
that's fucking crazy. Yeah, I'm so sorry about that. You
know what I'll say. As I mentioned before, the man
that killed my Chad is still at large. So okay,
I'm not sure what I'm not sure what else he's done.
I can't say or not say that he didn't hurt
your husband as well. Okay, I have a question, and
(05:29):
I'm sorry if this is painful. Did he have like
red lips? Absolutely? Absolutely? I used to always call him
my Swedish fish lipped boy. Oh my god. Wait okay,
so I actually meant did the murderer have red lips?
But dad had red lips? I think that's all. I'm
not sure. The man was wearing a Ronald Reagan mask
(05:51):
when he pushed my chat, so I never saw him.
But but my my boyfriend Chad did have red lips. Wow. Okay,
well that's and he didn't he hasn't murdered her, kidnapped anyone, right,
Well he is dead, Okay, that's true. You said that, Okay,
because we had this like forensic fucking loser doctor on
(06:13):
the thing that that she was saying was like, I
found this receipt that had like a little red lipsick. Sorry,
it was a receipt for like a train ticket whatever,
And this fucking losers were like, oh, oh my god,
it's probably an affair. And I was like, uh no,
you stupid bitches. Women and people who were makeup in
general can be murderers too. That is the equality I
(06:34):
want to live in. And so they just like, don't
blew my theory that maybe someone was out there. So
I'm wondering, maybe, yeah, maybe your murderer has red lips
or wears lipstick or something and goes to hotels with
people and goes on train trips with them, and maybe
they freaking murdered Greg. Maybe. I don't know. What I
will say is my boyfriend Chad was a train conductor. Billy.
(07:00):
When did Chad died? Chad died in two thousand thirty
two thirteen, was eight years ago, December on Christmas. Every
year on Christmas chat and I would go to the kmart.
We would get Capri son, we'd come home, we'd put
(07:22):
him in the freezer. We'd take him out of the freezer.
Once they were frozen, we'd cut open the packaging and
then we had big popsicles on tiny little straw sticks.
And that is what we did every year on Christmas. Wow,
cold on cold, Oh my god. Okay, if I'm doing
the math correctly, if your husband was murdered, sorry, boyfriend
(07:43):
was murdered in two thousand thirteen, and my husband was
taken from me a few days ago, I don't think
that math checks out. I gotta be honest. I almost
kind of came at you really, really, really fucking hard,
because I was like, your husband very clearly murdered. My sorry,
your boyfriend, you weren't married at all. Well, I have
a theory. I have a theory. Okay, go on. My
(08:06):
theory is that Chad was going to propose to me
on that Christmas Day. Okay, well, I guess you know
that's like conjecture and we don't really know that would
have happened. I think he was going to Okay, Billy,
not to be rude, but this is like a podcast
about like facts and not just like random projections and crazy. Well,
(08:30):
I just think maybe he was because he kept saying,
I can't wait to ring in the new year with you,
and he had never said that to me before. He
had never even mentioned New Year's Eve, New Year's Day.
He didn't say the word ring often. We had a
ring doorbell and he wouldn't even call it that, And
all of a sudden, he's sang ring. And that made
(08:52):
me think that he was going to propose to me
right after he right after when he did actually die.
You you literally do sound crazy. So I'm just going
to kind of put a pin in that and move on,
just because again, this is a podcast for Fox. So
here's my thing. I just feel like I have clues,
I have evidence, but I don't have anywhere to take it.
(09:15):
And this is where I'm like time is running out
and I've still not heard from my Greg. So let
me ask you. You saw your husband's boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend,
not married, number numbered, soon to be fiance. Okay, you
saw him get murdered, right, I did, Yes, So there
was no what happened like like, well, there is what happened.
(09:38):
What happened? He was murdered by a stranger wearing a
Ronald Reagan mask, and I don't know who it was,
and the murderer is still at large. You know, I'm
trying to think. I'm like, was there's someone with the
Ronald Reagan mask in my room that they greg got taken?
I'm like trying to remember. I don't remember anything like that,
and I usually get up, but what think? What if?
(10:00):
What the Oh my god? What if this is just
like a serial killer out on the fucking loose, you know, absolutely,
Like I'm telling you, his underwear is god, his cologne,
his face creams gone. I mean, this is clearly an
unwell person. They took all this ship in the middle
of the night. Serial Killers do go dormant, That's what
(10:23):
I'll say. So I can't speak to whether or not
your boyfriend is a lot. We got married, we have
beautiful photos. Well, okay, this is um, it's kind of
a lot. This is kind of a lot. I'm gonna
call my detective guy because I think this is a
kind of crucial intel. This Ronald Reagan thing is huge.
(10:46):
I wonder if even maybe your friend having the red
lips is huge or interesting to him. He was my
almost fiance. Okay, he is my almost literally. Okay, he
was my almost literally. Okay, I lost my virginity to him. Okay,
(11:08):
we all probably did. I'm gonna call detective right now.
Spitch sometimes doesn't answer my calls. We're sorry, but the
phone number you were trying to call has been blocked
by the wireless. Okay, I'm gonna try a good he's
likes to wait. Actually, give me your phone. Who's this?
(11:30):
Who's the background? That's Chad. That's right after he was murdered.
This is a gruesome picture. I never want to forget
what happened that day. I got it. I mean, I
get it. I have all people. I mean, look at
my background on my phone. That's your husband. This is
(11:51):
my husband. You two got married, Yes, we got married.
It's an unlikely pair. Oh why because he's six ft
nine and I'm four ft eleven. Because he's wearing a
basketball jersey and I have on a big tube dress.
Why all the things you mentioned, and there's also you know,
(12:12):
very different attractiveness levels. They Okay, oh Mullins, from your
(12:35):
detective Mullins, No crime is to slime minds. It's me.
Don't hang up or I'll kill you. Okay, it's bow no, yeah,
yeah up? What is this? You called me on some
other person's fine owners now yeah wow, you clearly did
go to detective school Mullins. Congratulations. Okay, listen, all right, Brimdley,
(12:57):
what do you want I have with me? A woman
who's friend boyfriend, he was my soon to be fiance
whose friend was murdered at a KMR by a man
in a Ronald Reagan mask. Man in a Ronald Reagan mask.
(13:19):
Does that ring any bows for you? No? Man, and
so think back. So you're trying to make some kind
of connection between this thing that happened in with a
soon to be fiance. Yeah, which, by the way, every
student to be fiance is assumed to be ex wife. Okay,
(13:42):
now you see kind of what I'm dealing with here.
Billy Um, are you single by any chance? Currently? Are
I am? Yeah? Wait? Shut everyone, shut up. Okay, listen.
I am making a connection between a case of in
case you know why, Because Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer,
(14:07):
the Golden State killer. These are people who killed other
people at different times. It didn't all happen on the
same night. There was time between those things. Alright, alright,
let's let's look at the facts. I'm making air quotes
right now fast, but I can't see them. Okay, we
have one murder and one maybe soon to be murder.
(14:29):
To borrow Billy's phraseology, my Gret could be almost Murdergret
could end up like a freaking Matroi's good doll. He
left you? Oh really? Then why did he leave his
wedding ring behind? Because he doesn't want to be reminded
that he's married to you? Oh? Wow? Convenient? So convenient?
(14:51):
Where they teach you that? And fucking tubit detective school? Listen,
think back? What were you like seventy five? Think? Okay,
and think? Was there a Ronald Reagan mask zerial killer
on the Lucien? Did they promise to kill again? No?
But you know this all right? Wait? Are you? Are you?
(15:11):
Billy Zimmerman? Yeah? I am, Yes, I remember your case.
That was wild. Yeah, it's really hard. I saw the
whole thing. It's been really hard for me and I
don't have much comfort at home. And sure, yeah maybe
we could, like I could we could meet up and yeah,
I would love that. Get some pumpkin spice lattes. Absolutely
(15:34):
love that. I've already had three pumpkin spice lattees today too.
I love that blowsip diarrhea. Let's let's stick to the facts. Okay,
here are the fact. A man in a Ronald Reagan
mask pushes a very red lipped man into the crevice
of an escalator at a kmart. He is basically decapitated.
(15:57):
Plus it's his head puzz a little bit of his shoulders. Okay,
it was not as I described earlier. It was like
a Russian nesting doll. He was cut right down the middle, yeah,
had plus a little bit of shoulders. Courso he was
cut at the waist Hamburger style. Okay, fine, we have
a man that was called Hamburger style and a camer Okay, beautiful.
(16:19):
Whatever he dies, he's gone. Now. Almost an identical series
of events, we have a man who disappears from his home.
All his possessions are gone. The things left behind were
(16:40):
a pen, his wedding ring, a train ticket receipt that
had red lips on it. At the very least, maybe
her dead boyfriend freaking took my greg. So now we're
talking ghosts. Is what you're saying. I thought I didn't
(17:02):
say ghosts, I said her dead boyfriend. I thought it
was assumed to be fiancee. Well, technically he's my my
ex boyfriend, and I am I am single, um, and
I would like to disappear from my home and get
a PSL with you. Well we'll talk um alright, alright,
five five five? So well, first of all, they are
(17:24):
completely different. Mos Alright, a man a Reagan mask doing murder.
And if big if finger quotes your Greg is being kidnapped.
You know this murder happened spur of the moment. So
why wasn't you're Greg just straight up killed? You know what?
(17:45):
Maybe maybe he this is so fun. Maybe the reason
why we haven't heard anything this Maybe Ronald Reagan took
my Greg's skin and it'd skin around to every But
he thinks that Mike Greg's a lot because I mean,
(18:05):
what other explanation is there. I mean, I'm the only
one that seems to give a fly and hoot that
he's missing. I would love to just see the inside
of your brain, see these kinds of logical leaps. All right,
you just went to skin murder, And let me tell
you I've seen my fair share skin murders out in
the game. You don't even want to know what I
(18:25):
do want to know. Tell me it's gross, all right.
It takes a lot of work because there's all these
veins and stuff, and your skin is connected to your muscles.
You know, Well, this murderer doesn't have to do a
lot of work. He took all my He took my husband, Sarah,
they he took my husband's little freaking baby foot. He
took everything. I'm sorry when you say he took your
(18:47):
husband's baby foot. I'm just he took the your husband's
foot after it had completed the baby foot process. Or
he took the skin funk. I hope not. I found
the skin. The skin was in the trash after he
did a baby foot. What the what are you? What
the fund are you saying? Baby foot? Baby foot is
(19:07):
a foot exfoliate. You put these little booties on and
then over time the acid rips the skin off of
your feet, the dead skin, and it comes off like
little eraser shavings throughout the day. That was in the trash.
I found all of that. I put that where it's
supposed to go. I put that away. That was all there,
but he had extra baby for. He does baby for
(19:29):
every like a few weeks, you know, to keep his
feet off. Those were all gone. It's murdered. They took
by Greg. And that's why I've always fucking cares, because
just some man walking around with his skin out there friendly.
You gotta get help. I know I'm trying to, but
you won't help me. Brain help, I said. I keep
saying this. I said it over and over again. You
gotta get brain help. I'll get brain help when justice
(19:52):
is served for Greg and honestly, Chad dead dead or like, yeah,
let's clear this up. I need to know this before,
like did you check the well, look at the lock
screen on my phone again. Okay, so he's that. I
watched him get cut in half like a Russian nesting dog.
We can get justice for him, but his face is
(20:14):
sort of done. It's just like detectives like you get
their rocks off from saying no, from saying you're a
crazy woman, you're in hysterics. Stop calling me at four
in the morning. Get off my lawn, you know, get
out of my dog's house. You get your rocks off.
Dove and all that ship. My dog is so fucked up.
(20:35):
From that thing that you did when you got into
this house in the middle of the night. Okay, you
don't need to be in his house. He's a trauma dog.
He's a rescue. I know he's a rescue. And I
took him to a show bow wow. Okay, and I
hid in the doghouse because I knew you would have
to come to see the doghouse, and you don't have
to come see me when I'm on your lawn. So
(20:55):
when you came out to give the dog a little
food in the morning, I was there to ask you
to solve my case. Okay, you stay away from my family,
you stay with my dog. Okay, I don't want to
hear from you ever again. You're sick in the head. Okay,
your husband left you. Oh that's rich. Isn't that rich? Billy,
isn't that rich? Isn't that rich? Well? It does sound
(21:17):
like woman to woman. Okay, your husband did leave you.
That's maybe the twelve idea on the list. Okay, whatever, Look,
I gotta go my kids and the principal's office. All right.
Why he burnt down a kmart? Oh wait a minute,
(21:40):
show me a picture of your son. No, you already
know what he looks like. A picture, maybe a Halloween picture.
I'm not showing you pictures. Show me a halloween picture
of your son, Billy, let's connect to find me. You
have my phone number. Son might have murdered your friend.
My son was five years old in two You never
(22:03):
saw that episode of the Simpsons where the baby shoots
the old man. We've all seen it. It was a
television event. You don't think your five year old could
shoot your cartoon. Okay, hey, Billy, are you a dom Riso?
I am switch verse. Thank you so much for him. People.
Don't you hung up? I literally hung up on him
(22:24):
because it's his best saying he's such a fucking pervert
and I hate him. Okay, Billy, you're the first person
that has even vaguely maybe understood my story. Well, no
matter what happened to you, I just want to say,
it's hard losing someone you love. So I hear you
and I see you, and I'm sorry. Thank you for that.
(22:47):
Nobody has said that to me. And you know, like
if Greg well unquote left me, you, Oh, I don't
think that that's true because that literally makes absolutely no sense.
You know, that is a loss that I would have
(23:08):
to deal with and like absolutely, yeah, I mean it's
probably that he was murdered and that's its own special
kind of loss. Sure. Yeah, well either way, I just
want to say that I know the financial struggles that
can be put on a woman after she loses her partner,
and I just want to let you know about a
really interesting opportunity that I have for you where you
(23:32):
have the chance to make your own money as a
woman and become an empowered girl boss in your own right,
where you are part of a multi level marketing scheme.
I am not, Yes you are. Okay, Well, if selling
essential oils to drink is a multi level marketing scheme,
then then I'm in a multileing markets might even be poisonous,
(23:54):
to be honest, Well, it can't be poisonous because there's
no scientific research done on it. Okay, Yeah, find a
SCIENTI agrees, Just like how you're not supposed to eat
bricks and nobody's actually studied that, but you're not supposed
to eat them because we just know. Okay, I'm coming
to you with a really exciting opportunity and all I'm
saying is think about it and let me know if
you're interested, because it's could be huge for you. How
(24:18):
much is the mpry level block? So I need you
to get out, but it's seven essential oils. I need
you to leave. This is kind of one of those
things where it's like, oh, no, the person that agrees
with me is the craziest person in the room. It's
so like I can't really have that following me around.
So I do need you to Okay, Well, having millions
(24:39):
of dollars of essential oils in your basement is crazy,
then call me crazy. Okay, Yeah, that's crazy. And it
sounds like you haven't even sold Well, I just got
them and I'm going to be selling them a lot.
I go to a lot of farmers markets. I'll tell
you that much. Okay, I totally buy that about you.
So thanks so much. I hope they find your your
your friend, Oh sorry he died, Okay, yeah, best wishes
(25:01):
to him in heaven in the afterlife. Did you keep
the bottom half? What happened to the bottom half? No?
That so this is something that hopefully you'll never have
to find out. But the police don't keep the bottom half.
They take the bottom half to a storage facility filled
with ice, where all the halves of people are kept
(25:21):
and you're not allowed to bury it, and you're not
allowed to taxidermy, and you're allowed to take it home
because it is evidence, and they keep it for the
rest of forever. If there's anything wrong with our legal system,
it has to be that. That is so fucked. It's
your friend, it's my husband. I'm now I'm paranoid if
(25:42):
I find Greg skinless somewhere that they're not gonna let
me keep that, don't they won't. Don't tell the police
if you find him skinless. Don't tell the police, because
they're not going to find whoever killed your husband, and
they're just gonna take his body and put it in
a big ice chest you're never gonna be allowed to
go into even if you them, if you can buy
a ticket to it like it's a Museum's country is
(26:04):
so messed up. Thanks so much, Um for joining us.
And guys again, I'm just putting out another call to action.
If you see my Greg skinless, extra skin, regular, amounts
of skin, anything, please please let me know, drop me
a line, email me to send me stail and they'll
(26:26):
call my house called Mullins his house. He doesn't care.
Please please, I just have to find my Greg. Sueit
it next week, where I hope we finally find the
second buck that took him from me.
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