September 2, 2025 • 56 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest College Football stories from Week 1 on Nightcap! Kicking things off with Prime led Colorado's disappointing loss, Florida St. DESTROYING Bama and more!
0:00 - Colorado loses season opener
32:29 - Florida St. DESTROYS Alabama
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, it is your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the
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so please subscribe or you're gonna make Ocho crack. College
football is officially back. We had some games last week,
but now the real games started to come. And tonight's game,
Georgia Tech go on the road and in folsom Field
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at SeeU they win twenty seven to twenty. Hayes King
thirteen of twenty one forty three. He threw it an exception,
but it was his legs that was the difference. Nineteen
rushes a buck fifty six three rushing touchdown, the last
one forty five yards to put them ahead with the
minute and seven seconds left in the ball game. And
they go on the road and they defeat the Buffalo's
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twenty seven to twenty. The first game with Osha Door
Sanders and the receiver Travis Yer. So Colorado is on
a new era. Now a Caitlyn Salt, I think that's
his name. Seventeen to twenty eight, one to fifty nine,
one touchdown. They ran the ball really well, thirty one
for a buck, forty six, but it was Georgia Tech
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forty seven rushes three hundred and twenty seven yards. O Joe,
I was disgusted watching this game. I said, what about
gap integrity? What about contain? Georgia Tech has run the
football since I was a kid, even when they had
like a try and they ran the damn football, when
they had the Marrius Thomas, they ran the football.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Georgia Tech runs the football.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's like if you play the Naval Academy or Army,
you know they're gonna run the football. Oh Joe, I'm like, living,
are you gonna make any adjustment?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Are you what is your responsibility? What about your gap
must integrity? What about what about your contained responsibility? I'm like,
this is ut of the ridiculous and quarterback psalter bro
you missed entirely too many throws.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
He missed entirely too many.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Throws, Ojoe, number and number twenty got a nice set
of hands on in the running back. Bro he wide open,
and I hate when quarterbacks do this. So Joe, when
you miss a throw, you go to the running back
or you go to the wide receiver. Tomorrow, I wanted you, no, Bro,
I was right, there put it on me. All you
had to do is hit me right here. Don't tell
me about I said, don't do that, don't do that.
You fed it up and he had to guther thirty ten.
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He missed entirely too many throws, but their defense let
him down tonight. You can't let somebody come into your
building and run the ball forty seven times for three
hundred and twenty twenty yards. Hold, let me see what
before you go over to Let me see what?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yes, I see if I want to see?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Uh no, hold to go back? Fuck score man? Oh Joe,
this was I'm like, but I knew I was on
the throne of my brother. Early in the game, I said,
spank a team give you three turnovers at home in
the first quarter, and you want to go seven points?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You telling that team beat me? Beat me?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Kick?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I ass yeah, he's supposed to have a They didn't,
and they got what they deserved.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Go ahead on't you the second? Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I said, Look, listen, what I was going to say is,
obviously we all wanted to see what Colorado, Colorado would
look like without shadoor Stands, without Travis Hunter, and they
didn't look that bad. First game of the season. You
want to get the kings out. You want to see
what areas you need to improve in. Obviously we see defensively. Defensively,
Colorado has to be able to stop the run, because
now it's out there on tape. What do we do
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when we play against the Colorado Buffalo's to have success?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
We run. That was the issue last year though, Joe damn,
that was.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
The issue last year.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Obviously, Georgia Tech showed that that's a that's a that's
an area that hasn't been filled, so that needs to
be addressed.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Boom for me, for me.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
The beginning of the game, Georgia Tech tried to hand
the hand the game to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
They tried to hand the game.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So I'm saying, for goddamn, in my mind, I'm looking Boom.
After the first turnover, old them boy went down the store,
and then it was two more turnovers after that. I'm like, well,
all right, I don't like the way they just looking
because you got the ball back two more times.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
In the first quarter from Georgia Tek.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Quarter and you're only do something with it one time.
I say, you know what, if you gonna come down,
it's gonna come down.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
To the end.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's gonna come down to the end because offensively they're
not doing enough. They're not doing enough offensively to to
put me at ease and to put you know, to
make me calm. Because but one, the first tone over,
it was all the way in your territory. So of
course it was easy to go down the score. But
the other two it seemed like you really couldn't move Abo.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
You didn't the ball right, You tried, you tried everything
you could.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Established the run that the room was it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Was they they ran, I mean they ran for one
hundred and forty six yards.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, but obviously uncle wasn't No, it wasn't enough. You wanted.
You want a happy balance of both, you know, to
to kind of.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Keep the keep the defense, you know, on on on
their heels or not knowing what's gonna come.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Are they gonna run it? Are they gonna throw? But
they weren't good enough in the air either.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That the fact Oo, look, I think he has tremendous
arm talent, but bro, you don't have to impress us
with every throw of your arm. You're missing routine throws.
He's gonna have to learn how to throw better on
the move. Because on the move, he's not very good.
And you know we're gonna we're gonna be nice, Ohoe,
because he's a college kid. These are professionals. Although something
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are making week one, it's week one. Two'scho throw it.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
On the move.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That should be able to week one, week no one,
week anything. You should be able to throw the throws
that he's missing, because that's third down. You're off the field.
You want to stay on the field. I want another crack,
Give me four more cracks at you. And we saw
him miss numerous throws. The second time he had an
opportunity to Oho, why would it He could have ran
the ball to the end zone instead of throwing it. Yeah, Bro,
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we understand that you have a nice arm. I mean
we saw him launch it sixty sixty five yards. Bro,
Sometimes you gotta understand, Okay, this is an opportunity for me.
That was not the time for you to try to dazzle,
try to impress us with your arm. Pick up the
first down and another thing. Oh Joe, then I'm gonna
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turn it back over to you. I don't know what
coach Primean was thinking. They got the ball back with
a minute and seven seconds in the ball game. You
got two timeout and you don't use any You talk
those same two timeouts you had to start that drive,
and you go into the locker room with them. So
you throw one pass behind the line of screamage, you
get tackled, you don't call time out, you throw complete
another pass on second down, you don't call time out,
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and then the quarterback picks up a third down, but
he burns eight nine, ten seconds on the club.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
What the hell are y'all doing on the scramble. I'm
not sure what was going on in that situation. Obviously,
you want to use those timeouts to give yourself as
much time as possible, continue running players to try to
get down in some type of range to throw a
hell Mary pass. I'm not sure what the what the
issue was there, But listen, they got some stuff they
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need to work on. They have some stuff they need
to work on, and I'm sure Prime is glad that
college football is back. We're out there playing against opponents
and not just ourselves, so we can see what areas
we need to get better at. Obviously, some air loge,
some of the same stuff that we had issues with
last year. I'm gonna start with just the running game,
being able to stop the run game, having the head listen,
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having the meat and potatoes to be able to compete
up there in the trenches and stop people from running
down you goddamn.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Broa three that's.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Where three twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot too, boy, Oh
that's that's a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Football and stopping the run is about will. It's about
want to, because schematically, I can't do anything, Oh Jo,
they weren't doing anything. He faked the talls and then
they pull a guard, or they pull a double guard
to tackle, or they'll pull a guard and they'll pull
a running back. That's all they were doing. They wasn't
doing anything the past game. Schematically, Oh Joe, I can
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scheme people when I run the football. It wasn't nothing fancy,
it was nothing. It was our guys kick your guys's ass.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's what we did.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And that's why football is for me mentally the toughest wort,
because you know, whyo, you're asking the one man to
move another man against his wheel. Now I know, Colorado,
they want to leave that that patch of grass, that
that a gap, that b gap that c or contained.
I know they didn't want to leave it. But Georgia
Takes said, you're getting your ass up.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Out of here. You getting up out of here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I'm like, bro, what Livingston? I know A I look,
you go back and you watch the film. There's a lot,
there's nothing. You didn't really do a whole lot good
other than the fact, you know when they got the lead.
I mean, you came down there when got twenty, you
match them. But then they go right back down the field,
right back down the field, and they ran the.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Football, O choke. Do you know what.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It takes to take to go seventy five sixty five
seventy yards?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I just run it. I think they threw one
threw one.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, on the on the ground. At that on the ground.
Is that?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Listen? You know you know the difference.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You know the difference and what matters when it come
wins and losses. What you got up there and you
run what you got to trenches, you ain't gotta You
gotta listen.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
If you ain't got enough.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Beating potatoes up there in your front and in your
front yard, and you got you them boys, ain't got
enough rocks in the back pocket, you canna get moved
you're gonna get moved around.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You can get pushed around. You know you understand that.
And that's what you saw tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
We won the same issues you had last year, and
it's only one way to fix it. You got to
get them big hogs up there. You got to that's
the only way to stop it. And then if you
don't have the size, you got to have people that wanted,
people that got this, that want to come downhill. Well,
you you know you want to move me against my wheel,
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Well let me show you. I'm not one of those
that you're just gone, Hey, I ain't going nowhere. I
ain't going I'm coming to the party. It don't matter
what time I get there, but I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Corners, Oh Joe, whatever happened to I'm not gonna let
my outside arm get pinned. You never give up that leverage.
Where's the hell leverage? Where it is contained?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Don't know?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I mean, I'm sure it's hard for me to believe
with the personnel that Time has on that staff, they
don't teach leverage, they don't teach contained, they don't teach gap, responsibility,
gap integrity. I refuse to believe that, and constantly I
see I see DB's giving up the outside arm and
the guy running down the sideline constantly, I see off
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defensive alignment. I'm like, bro, that is your gap. How
you let that man get you up out of there?
That is your gap.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And the funny thing about it is just can coach
it and repeat it over and over and over and
over as many time as they want. Or when the
bus is flying on, you have one responsibility to take
what you're toy and execute the ex's nose.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That all comes down to want to. That all comes
down to want to at the end.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Of the day, Joe, the hair is the thing. When
you walking through something, it's easy. But if you want
to find out what a man can do, put him
to the test. The test is when the hut, when
that ball moves, that's the test.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
See, I know what you do.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I know what you're doing when you're walking through. I
know what you're doing. But if you want to know
what a man can really do, put him to the test.
Put him as under the gun and let's see what
he does. Because I've seen so many guys and you
have to and practice. They look like, oh they'll.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Catch the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I'm damn look at the ball, do you all saying?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And then getting the game and he playing like Colonel Sanders.
I'm like, oh no, hell no bad please so better chat.
I'm sorry, chout up on one tonight cause if you
guys can tell that Colorado game that got me pissed off,
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I don't know. I'm to the highest I'm pistivity. Is
that a word?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah? And who who ain't playing like Colonel Who? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean in.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Practice they looking like Deon Sanders breaking on the ball.
Now they're getting the game, they're looking like Colonel Sanders
fried Chicken.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I'm looking and.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I understand, yo, I understand some of these guys. I mean,
I mean starting for the first time the bright lights.
But that but that's what that's what makes we who?
Who make us who we are? To being able to
perform under under duress, under advert and not forget that
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I can't get my eyeside on pin. I got to
I got to, I got the hole contained. I've got
to maintain my leverage. I've got to. I got to
have sound gap responsibility. And you can't throw that out
the window because now all of a sudden they fired
off the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's the thing you've got to be able to hold that,
and chaid, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Look, maybe I'm using turns, but you watch the game.
You saw what I saw. Hell, my old ass could
have ran through some of them holes. Now I wouldn't
have got no forty five yards, but I have got
the first down. I was like, damn, it's they've got cut. Look,
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it's the first game on Joe, and for me, I've
always felt that I wanted at home, especially the first
game on Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I gotta I got. I got a whole servant home
that got to and listen, they.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Have plenty opportunity off they have opportunity when they.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Got those two, those that second and that third one
over and do and didn't do anything with the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I said, it's gonna be a long I.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Told, I told Spa, I said, Colorado that that should
have set the.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Tone for the game right now.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
To put them down. It's the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Want put them down thirteen nothing, seventeen nothing at worst case.
But with three turnovers and that team's on the road,
you're in your home. It can't be seven nothing going
into the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It cannot be. It cannot be.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
And it puts all there. It puts all the pressure
back on because the half go ahead, go ahead of Joe.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Now I'm gonna say it puts all the pressure back
on Georgia Tech, where you won't have that comfortability of
being able to run the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I want all second half, all second half long.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Guess what I still got. You didn't take me out.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You didn't take me out of what I want to
do because it's only seven nothing. Now, maybe if it's
seven teen nothing, maybe if it's twenty one nothing, I
force you to throw the first. But now, even with
these turnovers, you allowed me to still stay in.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
My comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey, I don't know how to do it, oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But most of the time, if somebody, if you don't
make somebody get up out of if you got if
you written apartment, if you use somebody laying lord and
they go and they go a month or two and
they ain't paying you your money, there's a good chance
they're not gonna pay your week, three a month, four month,
five month, six, So.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So they's squadden. They squatten.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Basically, I've got a okay, guess what you come home
in the lock? It payd locked or the locks changed.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And then I don't know why. I don't know what happened.
I know what happened.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You thirteen thousand, you're fifteen thousand in the rears on rent.
And I've got responsibility. I got I got banks that
won't their mortgage on this on this building. And you
talk about man, I beg no one to hear nothing,
but you lost your job, right because I can't you
know what, I'm gonna bring you your money next month,
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because you know a couple of my tenants lost their job.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
They're not trying to hear that. O Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So in this situation right here, all Colorado did with
yell across the field, Hey, appreciate them. Three turnovers? Now
kick our ass?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Three turnovers in the first.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, you got you got to do something. That's the
second one. I said, Okay, if they get another one,
we gotta we got to we got we got to
find a way to get the game.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Out of their hands, make it a little easy on
the back end.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Once they after that second one and they went damn,
damn there, damn there three and out they de damn near.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I might might as well have been I said, you
know it's gonna be along.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I know, Ikne.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
They wouldn't win it this game once they got them
three turnovers in the first quarter and they only came
away with seven points. And you allowed Georgia Tech to
stay within the scheme of what they want to do.
The first thing I want to do if you are
a running team, I want to get you out of that.
I don't want you to be able to run the football.
I want to what do you do? What is the
second best thing that you do? I want you to
play to that. I want you to play to your strength,
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O Joe, I want you to play to your weakness.
And if you beat me with your weakness, on Joe,
I come to the center field. Congratulations, A good job. Hey,
stay healthy. I see you down the road, coach. But
I'm not going to let you beat me when I
know that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Right But like I said.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The decoordinator, I understand y'all put a lot of time
in because you know what Georgia Tech does. Georgia Tech
wants to run the football. But your gap, integrity, your leverage,
your contain was piss poor and that'll call you to
lose a lot of games. That'll call you to lose
a lot of games. We had this conversation last year
when they play Kansas. We've had these conversations over the
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years when we're discussing Colorado about ain't able to stop
the run. Now, one thing I will say, Oh Joe,
they look better in pass protection. That left tackle, go
play at the next level. That left tackle number seventy seven.
He's gonna go play at the next level. Big play,
he gonna get, gonna go play, he gonna he gonna
be playing on Sundays. But they got to do a
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better job. I don't care how good you are offensively
if you cannot stop the run because they're just protect
I mean, think about it. They still have five more
minutes of possession with three turnovers and a lot of turnovers.
Are like two plays, one play turnover, three plays turnover.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You give them, you give them the ball back too fast.
You're not doing nothing with it, not doing you're not
doing nothing with it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I jump, man, I was man. I was so frustrated
because I'm like, bro, oh, hold on.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
You think you frustrated tonight, wait till you wait, wait
till you see Tomorrow's game, you might be frustrated again.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Who who played tomorrow? Oh clem State mean I think
the thing is, oh yo, when games, if you know somebody,
I'm gonna be watching because I like Sark. I know
Sark here and I can recommunicate, So yes, I'm gonna
be i gonna be pulling for Sorrky. I'm sorry, Chad, Yeah,
I'm gonna be pulling for Sark because I like him.
But you know, when you know time, you kind of vested.
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You know, you and I both have gone to see
you watched them play. It's a great atmosphere and this
was a winnable game for Colorado, but they did everything
they possibly could to help Georgia Tech steal it from them.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But Georgia take it, steal it. They went on the road, they.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Outplayed them, and coach says, look, we got We give
their defense credit because the defense votes they're back, because
they got the three. They only gave up seven points
on those three turnovers, so that could have they could
have gotten they could have gotten out of hand. Colorado
took care of the football. They didn't turn it over,
not one time. They had less penalties. But when you
when you let a team go run for three twenty
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three twenty. I mean, first of all, two hundred yards
a lot when you start. Let teams get three hundred
four hundred yards running on you and please please Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But uh, I'm sure, coach Prime, I don't know how
they do it in college. Oo. I mean we played
on we played Saturday. We was off Sunday unless we
played like horse and coach and make us put our
uniforms on and go practice, go practice. I was thinking
about that, Oh you, Ojo, do you know?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean, think about it, Oho, if you played the
game on Monday, I mean Sunday, and coach and you
and the Cincinnati they said, oh you put your pants on?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
We going to practice on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I don't know about.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Hey listen, hey, Gray, grown folk, not grown folks that
ain't gonna work. We are not putting no pads on
after playing a three hour game on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
That's not happy.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I'm not sure who the chief captain would be, but
I can guarantee you they will not be in no
pads at the game day.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You already know how we feeling after.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Game yea, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
You know how long it takes to get out of
bed after a game, I do man, put on some
pass pass who shoe now ain't happy.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
But they'll probably have tomorrow off. Come in monday, wash
the tape and get ready because it's the fans.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Turn around on Joe. You can't. You can't let this linger.
That's stench. Is there get you something about?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Look it's been damn forty years since I was in college, yo, Joe,
but there's something about it. And I was never been
a big guy that went out after the game. But
I can assure you if we lost, you were gonna
see Sha shaw face on campus. Hell now you first
of all, you barely saw me after a win.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Barely. I'm talking about maybe.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I think I went to maybe one party and four
years of college, I ain't no, no, no, and we lose. Yeah,
I'm looking at the guys following out, Man, they hurry back,
oh Joe, the shop, especially if we own, they heard
the shower and go to the party.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I'm like you, sorry, mo, folks, y'all want people to
see y'all.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Y'all just oh.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I tell you what though, this is how I look
at it, and I'm gonna be honest. You have to
think my time during my tenure in Cincinnati. We had
what maybe one, maybe two winter seasons. I'm tired of
when I was there, so I had no choice but
the hand of my business week in and week out,
whether we're winning and losing.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Because I'm stepping out. I'm stepping outside, and I can
tell you I.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Know exactly where I was at because I had friends
of mine that I met main Rico Los. All them
boys died in Cincinnati as a group of five. We've
been friends in two thousand and one. I have no
other outside France outside of those I met on the
first day I got lost in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
First day. Still friends to this day.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Dude, we go to Ani's after every game we play
at one o'clock. The game in at three, we had
jail Alexander's at six o'clock. And then when when ten
or whatever it called, roll around.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh, I'm going out.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I'm going out because I'm trying to enjoy myself. Get
some of the sore on this out, walk around, have
a little fun, talk to some of the fans. You know,
the dudes out you know, out out the hood that
that be out off of Short Vine and and wherever
they're from.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know, just just talk football.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I was.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I was more of a people person, you know, during
that time, and love to talk to the game of
bought whether we were losing the winner. And I would
always shot my face whether.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
We were losing the winning.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean one of the worst times I had, oh yo,
I was in Baltimore and we had made I had
already made reservations at Ruth Chris. I had all brought
everybody in and we lost the game. If I didn't
have my mom and my sister and all them kids
out to cancel that, we will know.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I would get takeout. I would get take out. We
lost the game.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Hey, Sean were going around such as, I say, nah,
I'm going on home. I'm gone home. I'm I'm hey,
I'm a I'm a sore loser, I'm a worst winner.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But I didn't. I didn't. I don't. I don't. I
don't want to be around nobody. I know how I am.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm moody, I'm meritable because guess what, that's why y'all lost.
Y'all out here party. You need to be home in
your playbook, you need to be studying your play you
know what I'm saying. Try to hear that, So right right,
we take my black ass home soak mope and think about, man,
what could I have done differently?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Hey, and I was hanging with with us.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I was hanging with us.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
We'll have a game. We have a game of Obviously
we played one o'clock. I swear for god, you would
think I wasn't even a football player, but one not
just fall player, but the star football like that. Because
if you catch me after a football game, before me
and the fellas go eat dinner, you can just catch
me on short mind.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You can catch me down the way.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I go see my little young bulls that enjoy the
game of football. I sit there with them, talk about
the game for a little bit, you know, chit chat.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
We're on the corner.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Huh, We're on the corner, Cincinnati, just chilling.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Ain't nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I'm going home talking talking football for about an hour
or two. I sit there with them, smoke with the guard.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
After the game, boom, I go down to Jay Alexander's.
My routine was the exact same for a decade straight.
It never changed.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I don't know if they're still any guests, but
I would go, I would call, I would get black
eyed plea with the name of the restaurant. I would
get the grilled chicken or the Country five steak. I
would get Colonel, I would get rice, I would get
Colonel corn, and I would get black eyed Peas.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Get so I get a.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Combination of like lemon lemon tea, limits raspberry tea or something,
and I'm going home. Yeah, that's it. I'm gone home.
I want I want to be I want to be
miserable by myself. I don't want to see nobody. I
want to talk about. I don't want nobody tell me
you played a good game, because I played like I
don't care if I had one.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Hundred and fifty. I played terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I didn't play good enough to win, and I don't
I don't want nobody to try to pat me on
the back. You guys gonna get no, not no. I
don't know what's going to happen after I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
About this game. So I knew. I know how I am.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I've always been like this. We lost the game in
high school. We going man, I'm going home, Coach, take
me home. If we win, your boy your boy a.
I would walk the streets with y'all.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
But we lose r Yeah you can.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You're taking it No, No, because I know because oh y,
I've always been one of these guys that works so
hard for it. I know what I put in, and
the more you put into something, the more hurt when
it doesn't work out in your favor.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
See, I like what you just said.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know what you put in.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I understand what I put in.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I understand the work I put in to make sure
I it is the team game, right, It's a game
when the come when it when it, when it comes
time to get.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Paid, you get paid.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You do you definitely.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Things don't now if the other ten don't do what
they supposed to, your fault, No, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I'm not finna punish myself. I'm punishing myself. Why am
I not going nowhere?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Because y'all are.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
You for the gum for the gut here off the
get my ja Alexanders, off of the talk to my homeboys,
you know, And I'm gonna go out.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I'm gonna go to Annie's and I'm enjoying myself.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I don't dream no alcohol, but you know, I got
my fellas with me. I got my fellas with I'm
gonna make sure they have a good time.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Uh oh, a transformer just hit Joe's house and so
he ain't got no power.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Joe got buzzled. Look he need to move.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Hey, hey, Joe, Hey, Joe over there on one hundred
million dollar property, one hundred million dollars property two in
the seventy three thousand square feet and ain't got no power.
Would have goddamn generator, Joe. Joe with a generator. I
know you got to generate out there, Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Everybody should have one, Atlanta, because I'm pop up storm,
gonna pop up and knock it out.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Go mick your power.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Wow, hold on, can Joe see us right now? Hey, Joe,
can you see us? He got me? Joe? Now, he
got a cell phone that you don't got. Come on, now,
you know you need L T E G G five
What you call it?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
What you call a five? G?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
That yet?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I don't require nothing. Your phone should work, Joe. Facetiming
Joe if you can see, yes, you being But the
internet in the house has nothing to do with your
cell phone working. And look here, okay, hey, he can FaceTime.
I can just hold the phone up.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
You can see if.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
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diagnosed with bladder cancer and needs frequently used of the restroom,
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Speaker 1 (28:52):
Being bad time tied by his bike.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Hey, hey, that that that depends why they I know
they paying will.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Oh yeah for sure because a lot of people embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I wish I would why you know how many zeros probably?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, but saying a lot of people are don't want
people to know that they have to wear adults undergarment.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know what I'm saying like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You got to understand who Prime is.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
You got a Prime is he wants He's one that
could wear any and everything on his shoulders, non give
a damn, but none of y'all on the outside.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
The people wear them, but they don't want to advertise it.
But like you said, you know, you know what I'm saying, Hey,
hold on, they make them for a reason. Anytime they
make something, somebody is purchasing it. So it's a lot
of you know, sometimes women after they have kids, it
takes a while for them for those muscles to get
back strong with that. Sometimes men they have a lot
(29:47):
of cancel. They have prost they have issues. It's it's
it's hard and some you know, hey, uh, my grandmother,
my grandmother wouldn't wear them. She said, live, I want
my dignity, So my grandmother wouldn't we My grandmother wouldn't
wear and you know she obviously she passed. I think
Ranny was eighty eight. She had made and made she
was eighty eight, so she passed in July.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'll tell you what depends. If you see this, come on,
I let you do. It.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Ain't nothing wrong with you, hey, But sometimes I do
be thinking about getting me a goose.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I be tired of walking to the bath through. Man,
I just need to get me a goose and go
right inside the bed.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Hey, hey, give me, give me something.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I could just roll over to the right or roll
over to the left. I don't want to get up
out of bed anyway, because.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I keep I keep, I keep upstairs.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
But by sixty degrees, hey, sixty degrees, it's freezing up there.
So when I got to get up in the middle
of the night, sometimes I don't want to do that.
I could always use the bag. I'm gonna date myself here.
And if you if you my age older and you're
from the South, you know what I'm talking about. Hey,
I'm gonna get me a night pot or slop jar.
So if you're from the South and you my age older,
(30:54):
you know exactly. They call them peapots, they call them
night pots, they call them slop jars.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Google it, that's what that. Any time I say something,
I see, hey, you know that, wouldn't that mean that's
she immediately any time I say something with you, I
can see the fake. But uh yeah, but I'll be
looked to where it depends. That's the least of That's
(31:26):
the least of the issues I was. I'm glad they
caught this in time. I mean, think about it. Boy, Hey, God,
good God, great? And what he instilled a man to
take his bladder and reconstruct it and use a small.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Man please man. But uh, I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
If anybody look this man that Joe time, his attitude
about anything, He'll make anything positive.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It could be the worst situation.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's one of the few people no matter how bad
a situation is is, he can make it positive. He
can make light of a situation, make it a and
you a and it thinks that you know A like
when I did the interview, and I know a lot
of you guys have seen the interview. When I went
up there and I started getting on him about his toes,
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he would have it any other way because he like,
you know, if it was on the if it was you,
you know, I get you.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I was like, absolutely, I know, absolutely, I know.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Joe's gonna fly nine. That's that's something that's gonna always happen.
But we all, we all had that type of relationship though.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Oh you okay, that's what a you okay, you good man,
you know I'm good. Oh you should have told me that.
You should have said nah, should have told me that
I gotta get you. Florida State pullsy upset unranked Florida
State takes down the number eighteen in the country to
put pressure on Todd Simpson a pretty much all day.
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He was pressured on sixteen or fifty one drop backs,
one of ten for thirty yards with three sacks. When pressure,
Simpson was not on the same praig as Ryan Williams,
who left the game late with a concussion Simpson was
just five of eleven when targeting him, all three on
passes thrown more than five yards down the field.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Kailing the I was. I was thinking to myself, Johnny
and Ocho.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I was like, man, look here, I understand, ain't there's
not a college coach that's gonna be Coach Saban.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But you can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
He's lost to four unranked teams in fourteen games. Coach
Saban was there damn near two decades and he might
have lost four unranked teams in his whole tenure. And
I was like, man, they might get rid of kailing
the boar. But I looked at that buyout. He has
a seventy million dollar buyout. They ain't got them deep
pockets like y'all got Johnny down in Texas, A and
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M where y'all got a Jimbo up out of there
for seventy seven million. They ain't got pockets like that.
So so o'chilly BASKI this. You watched, You watched Alabama. Yeah,
Coach Saban's not walking through that door anytime soon. Okay,
Coach Saban's not walking through that door ever.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
When you look at Alabama, they don't even look the same.
They don't have the same swagger. They don't even take
the field to save.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well, unk, you got to understand, of course they don't
look the same. This is what we're seeing now. When
the saving was there, this was pre.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
N I l huh, this was pre n il nil
came along, and even the scoreboard all the way across.
So all the talent and the players that used to
go to Alabama where everybody would go and have to
wait in line.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
They got received after the receiver after receiver, quarterback after quarterback,
after quarterback, running back after the running back, at the
running back, everybody going all over the place because teams
have money and players don't want to sit and wait
behind anybody else.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
They want to play.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Right now, money talks, which is one of the reasons
why Nick Saban left. Because the even the playing field
has even where the level of talent is scattered across
everywhere where.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Now most of the part coaching comes into play, and
coaching is that much more important? Is that much more
important now?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Because Florida State today, I'm not gonna say they embarrass
they embarrass Alabama, but I guarantee you a lot of people,
a lot of people, especially if you gamble, I guarantee
you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I guarantee you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Johnny, what you think, what didn't you like about what
you saw from Alabama? And what did you love about
what you saw from the Seminoles?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
I mean, I think Castelano's for Florida State jumped off
the page and every aspect of everything. You know, you
look at what they did. He only threw the ball
nine times. That's super effective. To be able to go
put thirty one points up and you only throw the ball,
You're only nine to fourteen for one hundred and fifty two.
That's efficient. The one thing that I will say that
I think in the past, you walk in fac an
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Alabama team, you probably got a little fear. This is Bama,
the team that's been a dynasty, the team you got
a little fear. That fear aspect of what Alabama is
is completely gone. And nobody's scared of them boys. Not
Van Dy, not Kentucky, not nobody. Nobody's walking in and
seeing Alabama on the schedule and having any kind of shake,
any kind of fear. Nothing. They've been getting wiped the
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last couple of years. You say that buyouts deep, but
like they're not going to sit here and let this
stand for sure. We're gonna find it in orid somewhere.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
They absolutely will, because I was thinking the same thing
what they said about Jimbo, because prior to Jimbo, the
biggest college buyout was Gus Mozan when he got twenty
one million to leave Auburn, And basically you tripled damn
near quadruple that with this buyout for Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
When you're Alabama and you've had to expect and you've
done what you've done six national championships, you lost another
two times in the championship game, you're damn there. They
called it the Alabama Invitational because Alabama was in it
every year and people had them with a chance to
win it every year. You can't count Alabama out. You
can't count Alabama out. But lest you said, Johnny, nobody
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fears Alabama anymore. And when you don't, that's half the battle.
It's fear, that's one of that's one of your biggest strength.
There's another man's fear where they don't have that anymore.
And I'm looking at Alabama, O Joe. They ain't got
the same level of talent. You're absolutely right when you
look at you look at the running backs, it was
mark Ingram and Trent Richardson and this one and that one.
(37:15):
And you look at and Derrick Henry and Mr Gibbs
and this one, that one. You go, you go look
at the wire receivers.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You went to.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Julio and Ridley and Cooper and this one and that
one and Judy. And you look at the quarterbacks. You
look at those big d linemen they used to have.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
You look at the DB's they don't have that no more.
They just have guys.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Now, ain't nobody Just when do you watch the game,
Johnny and you played against them? When when can you
honestly say you watched an Alabama team and it ain't
nobody jump off the page at you.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Ain't nobody, Like, damn, ain't nobody gonna tie?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Not since the Georgia game, Not since the Georgia game
last year where Ryan Williams did his thing and absolutely
went crazy. He turned in one player stand out where
you're like, Okay, this guy is a level of talent
of Alabama that we're a customers. Seeing everything else, you
may see a splash or a dash here or there,
but you're not seeing it consistently week in and week
out like you're accustomed to.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
And the funny thing, too, uncle is I said something
about for me obviously being a receiver, and thinking about
college football and thinking about all the players have been
promoted and advertised as supposed to be you know them boys,
and me saying like nobody popped out to me on
film today, and people and people in the chest saying
it's only week one. Yeah, week one, Yes, it's week one.
(38:32):
That's the whole point. You allowed to pop out. Just
because there's week one. That don't mean you can't. You
can't show ye, That's what I'm saying. What do we
talk about? It's only week one? Yes, that's when you
actually pop out and you show off when you're playing
against the top talent, you're playing against the good teams.
These are the games you're supposed to pop out because
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you're trying when you get to the next level. Every week,
it's the same thing. Every week you play an NFL,
it's them boys, you play against them boys. So I'm
expecting I was expecting. I was expecting maybe coaches wanted
to call conservative games. Maybe didn't want to feature the
players that we've all been been noticing on commercials and
seeing over and over and over. So maybe maybe next week,
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maybe the week after, I don't know. At some point
the games of the day were okay. The Alabama, Alabama
and Florida State game to me, was probably the best
and the most exciting with the Clemson.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
The Clemson game followed after that.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
But there's one more game we haven't talked about yet
that was the absolute snooze fest.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I'll wait till we get there.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
When I look think about Alabama, the one thing Alabama
could do was stop the run. You know, Coach Saban, Johnny,
you had to throw. The thing that gave coach Slaban
problem has always given coach Slaban problems, the dual threat
quarterback and the guy that could pass the football. You
go back and look when they lost to Oklahoma, A
Trevor Knight I think that was his name. You look
at what he did to them in the Sugar Bowl.
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He's still back there and he threw the ball. Now,
the thing that gave him the most problem is a
dual threat quarterback, a guy that could throw the ball
and run.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
You look at Johnny.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
You look at Johnny Manziel, you look at Deshaun Watson,
you look at guys that Cam Newton. You look damn,
you're so happy if you're talking about two guys wening
the Heisman Trophy, one guy with one of the better
quarterbacks in the NFL before the injuries and things off
the field took place. You see, but they got ran
on forty nine times for two point thirty. Coach, you
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don't run on Bama Baba, don't let you run. They
they stuffed your run and then they go hunt your quarterback.
They can't really hunt the quarterback. They really can't consistently
stop the run. And Constall Liianos was doing whatever he
wanted to do, Like you said, Johnny, extremely efficient in
the passing game, only threw the ball fourteen times. But
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when you can and you know guz Mozhan, you know
what he wants to do. He wants to run the football.
He wants to give you a lot of mis direction.
He's gonna run Jet Sueet. He's gonna run your quarterback.
Hes gonna run his quarterback. That's what he does.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
A Florida's almost lost, not almost lost that game, but
almost letting them boys back in the game too. After
the after the second half, that second half and third quarter,
every everything started being conservative.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Everything started to be conservative.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
That the three and outs given given Alabama the ball back,
allowing them to have a chance to get.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Back into the game.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Now, if it was the old Alabama or a team
that was a little bit more competent and the fishing.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
With the ball, hell, Alabama could have came back and
win that game.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
With as conservative as Florida's plate Florida State played in
that second half.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
What old Alabama would have been behind like that? That too,
Go ahead, Johnny.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
I think I think you look at what Alabama wants
to do. In the past, they would always say, listen,
we're gonna go man on man. We're gonna take our
best versus your best, and we're gonna lock you down.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Times.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Like we said in the past, where they've you know,
had success against an Alabama has been when you know
their running man coverage running down the field, and the
quarterbacks able to escape, to contain and be able to
get out. But this is a team that just doesn't
even resemble that, Like we're gonna put our best corner
against your best receiver and body and throw them out
of bounds and bully them up. Or you know, we're
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gonna take our best edge rusher and just absolutely mop
you all day long.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
You don't.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
You're not used to seeing an Alabama team get pushed around,
especially in the trenches. No, and.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, and plus they can't run the ball like they're
used to. You know, Alabama get them hogs up, and
I'm looking at the offensive line they go six seven
three forty six seven three twenty six six.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm like, bro, y'all big for no reason? Why the
hell you that big? If you can't blocked, if you
ain't moving though, Oh joe, you got to move furniture?
You that big? Yeah? I said, y'all that big and
cave block the sun that gives I say, what, damn,
ain't no paying, no sism, big, ain't no sistant being
that big. If if you ain't gonna move something, Yeah,
I'm like, what damn? I mean?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Twenty nine rushes for eighty seven yards? Oh joe, twenty
seven rushes eighty nine yards?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Yeah, three yards of carry if Florida State look good
on I'm talking about all three levels up front, second
level and the secondary. I really want to know, Chad.
I don't know if you guys know, if you remember
Earl little that played for Cleveland Browns, is that his son,
little Junior?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Hey? He was all you talking about the dB Earl
Little right, Yes.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Earl Little Win of North Miami down here in Miami.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I think that is the son.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Think so, man, he was balled the boy.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Nick Saban coach two hundred and thirty games at Alabama.
He had four losses to unranked teams during his stretch.
Kaitlin de Boor has coached fourteen games, and he just
lost his fourth game to an unranked team since two
thousand and seven. In games in which Alabama was favored
by at least fourteen points. Coach Saban is one thirty
one and two. Kaylen de boer is four and four.
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They get you up out of there. You don't want
to be the man. You don't want to be the
man to follow the man. You want to be the
man that followed the man that followed the man. So
I want to be the guy that came after the
guy that followed coach Saban. I don't want that pressure.
You don't want to follow coach Bryant. You don't want
to follow a Nick Saban. You don't want to follow
one of those the parts with sir, or those air procedures,
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one of those those mythical coaches.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You want to be the guy that followed the guy
that followed him.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Because now that's what I'm going to forget, because I've
got some separation between me and Coach Saban. I've got
separation between me and one of these historic, great, great coaches.
The question that I have for you, Johnny, is that
do you believe the ni L would be the best
death of the SEC.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
No?
Speaker 6 (44:34):
I don't think so. I think the South will only
the SEC in that conference will only find a way
to work around it and do what they need to do.
There's too much money there. There's too much in these
collectives to be able to make it, to make it successful.
I think we'll see some more. I think we'll see
different programs, different games, the name Georgia Alabama, the same
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couple of little pockets, the teams that have been winning SEC.
So I think it'll give him some disparity in that regard.
But you know, for the most part, I think the
SEC is aligned for whatever moves forward in the college
football in iol landscape, whether it's getting to bigger conferences
where we only have three big conferences throughout the country
or four or whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
It may be.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I think the SEC can keep accumulating teams more teams
and end up being, you know, the biggest conference, sixteen
twenty teams. You know, it's all said and done, and
this stuff kind of plays itself out.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Oh Joe, what you think it? Because you look at Underwood,
we might think we might touch on him. You get
Larry Ellison, one of the top three richest men in
the world. He underwrites it. You get Dave poytn Or
from Barstool. You get a Tom Brady says, hey, I'll
personally help you out and mentor you and coach you.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
And you give a kid, an eighteen year old twelve
and a half million dollars, say, come on down.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Here is what we got for you. It's hard when
you got these deep pocket donors. You get a team
like an Oregon, and you got Nike, and you got
those that field night dollars, and you get all those
uniforms and you so now it ain't no no Dodge Chargers,
it ain't no challenges. These guys got Ferraris, Johnny, these
guys got lambos, these drives, these guys driving colorings and
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McLaren's yeah at eighteen nineteen year olds.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, yep, yeah, listen, hey, the landscape has changed. Landscape
has changed, and it's like I said, I said it
even the plan field, and I think it's good a thing.
It's good for the players. I think it's good for
the players because not only are you able to obviously
get money for playing the sport you love, you're able
to help your family out. You're able to help your
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family early as long as you can stay focused and
understanding that you got this money as just a jumpstart
for your bigger dream, for your bigginess, but making it
to that next level where the real money is. As
long as you can lock in, stay focused and do
what you need to do. I think I like it because,
like Johnny said, it adds some very obviously to college
football in general, and even the playing field where everybody
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gets the talent instead of one or two or three
or just three teams getting everybody.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
You're right, because they sure it sure seems that way.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Now it doesn't look like I mean and not look
Alabama still get five star recruits, but they don't look
like the five stars they normally get. It's seemingly Ohio
State are getting those guys now and they're like you said,
I mean, if they're twenty five thirty five star, Alabama's
getting one or two where they normally have two running backs,
two wide receivers, three d lineman, two old linemen, a corner,
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the number one, the number two or three dual threat.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Those guys don't look like the same caliber player that
they want normally once.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Have had had. And I think you guys are right.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
And you know I have a question too.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Go ahead, johnny'all can probably help me out when it
comes to these stars and whoever is rating them. Yeah, yes,
from the people that's supposed to be these four and
five stars. When the lights were bright tonight, when the
lights were bright today in general, the stars didn't come out.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
The stars didn't come out at all.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
What and that's the thing what you alluded to, you
say when people you you tweeted what you tweeted, and
people say what Yanna, They said, Oh, Joe, well, is
just the first game.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
It doesn't matter if you if you are who you
say you are.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
First game second game, third game, first quarter, second quarter,
third quarter.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
It does not matter.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, and I'm you're like.
Speaker 6 (48:37):
A pit bull on a leash when this first game
comes up, you're.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
You know you've got bang bank plays going across the
middle and you can't touch each other, and you're running
by and you're barking. This is what you're doing all
training camp. You're bake blowing stuff up. Yeah that you'll
be like, oh.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
If that was in a game, we tore your ass up.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
That's what you're doing with the all spring and all
training camp.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
Now you're wish it's your time to run for first
time on the field, maybe in front of the lights. Yeah,
it could hit you a little weird a couple of spots,
but when it comes down to a dog is a
dog and it's time to be off the lead one.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Oh all right, let's get into it right now. The
game that just went off LSU the number Tigers number nine,
number time number nine. Excuse me, LSU Tigers go on
the road into first time in a long time. You
had two death valleys. That's what Clemson called their home
death Valley. That's what LSU calls their home death valley.
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So one death valley went into the other death Valley.
So number nine LSU go on the road take down
the number four Clemson Tigers by the score of seventeen
to ten. Garrett Nussmyer played extremely was john I thought
he played really well in the second half. He calmed down,
he showed a lot of poise, a battle back, and
they got to wear a very tough fault victory. Normally
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ear on in the season, these are the type of
games LSU normally lose it. And you see opening they
lost the Florida State they got blown out, and then
they lost the year before that they got beat. Now
LSU showed me a little something going on the road
in an extremely hostile environment the number four team in
the country and getting a win. That was very, very impressive. Johnny,
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let me ask you this, what did you like about
what you saw from LSU.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
I mean, I think you look at a lot through
the game. You see it was kind of stagnant there
for a while where nothing was really happening. It's kind
of just kicking it back and forth waiting for something
to happen. But they stayed patient and that's mired finally
got things going a lot better in the second half.
They have the turnover in the first half that really
killed a lot of momentum. But one of these kind
of slugfest games that when you go on the road,
you never really know how you're gonna win these and
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get these done, but when you look at the end
of the day, you want to have this win. I
think they just found a way to get it done
in the second half. Nothing too like overwhelming, overpowering or
anything like that, but just a solid, you know, one
touchdown win.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Oh Joe, what'd you like about what you saw from LSU?
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Considering these are the type of games we talked about
that Brian Kelly has seemingly lost early in the season,
and finding a way to win a game like this.
You know, when you beg on the road and you
beat the number four team in the country, it doesn't
matter if it's seventeen tim and if it's seventeen sixteen,
if it's eleven, if it's four to three, you.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Want long as long as you get to win. Listen,
LSU played extremely way.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
I think the beginning of the game it was very
stagnant as a very defensive game. Obviously most of the
time when it comes to college football, even NFL, the
defense is always ahead of the offense because all they
have to do is read and react, and it takes
time for offenses to get rolling.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
And what I did see from LSU and I didn't
see enough of. Let me tell you what I didn't
see enough of unk.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Of LSU is being wide receiver university. LSU, to me
is now wide receiver university.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I don't see that dog.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
I don't see that one there out there that can
make a difference for LSU. And I doesn't see that
for Clemson either. There are another university that produces some
good wide receivers. I haven't seen anybody emerged. Actually, honestly,
were talking about not just this game, the entirety.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Of the day about college football.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Those that I thought are supposed to step up, those
that have always been on my radar as really really
good receivers.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Nobody, really, what's the word looking for?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Nobody really stepped up to the pression.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, nobody, nobody, Especially this game tonight.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
I was really looking forward to to seeing somebody for
LSU to make a difference in the game, somebody for
Clemson to make a difference in the game.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
But that didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
It was more of a defensive defensive slug fest, and
the points that were scored they were earned on Every
point was earned the night.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I think LSU will look back on this game, and
if the Seeds they go and have the type of
season that I think guys they want to have, they'll
definitely look back at this game. Anytime you can go
on the road in a hostile environment. And this is
not Clemson's number four team in the country. They have
the number three rated overall prospect. He happened to be
a quarterback Clinton cub Nick Club Nick uh and to
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go in there and to get that win, I think
that tells you. I think Brian Kelly learns something about
his team tonight, Johnny. I think he really have I
really think he has a team now that he believes
that he can take it anywhere in any environment and
get a victory.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
Look, this is the playoff team Clemson from last year,
same quarterback, coming back, a lot of the same pieces.
So you got to feel like early in the season,
you know this game has been scheduled on their you know,
bulletin board for the whole offseason, and they knew what
they were coming into to play, and like we said earlier,
this is a game LSU normally doesn't come out and win,
so for them to do that has to make them
feel really good about themselves. I don't see anything in
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Clemson's game that they should feel too down on. You know,
you obviously want to win this game, but going through
the ACC and the schedule that they have, they'll be fine.
I think they need to continue to have club Nick
run the ball as he did a couple times there,
to extend some drives and do some certain things. But listen,
everything's going to go through that guy number two for Clemson,
and if he doesn't put a touchdown on the board,
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you know they're usually not going to come out with
a win in that situation.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, LSU had to play well. They showed up with
T shirts with one to oh on it. When you
on the road, Johnny and O Joe. When you show
up on the road against the number four team in
the country and you wearing T shirts and you already
got one to oh boy, you better come out there, boy,
you better come on out there and play. And they played.
They played that second half, they really dominated it. They
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really dominated this game. Like I said, like Johnny, you
were twenty eight to thirty eight, two thirty one touchdown,
not over powering. He didn't have a three hundred yard day,
he wasn't seventy plus percent completion percentage, but he was solid.
He made big time throws when he absolutely had to
have him to get a drive, tie the ball game up,
and then he goes down and get the go ahead touchdown.
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He was very, very impressive, and I think Brian Kelly
has to be impressed with his team. Defensively, they started
getting out the club nick and once they started to
put that pressure on, they brought a blipse the guy
a linebacker looped around on fourth and four and they
turned them over on downs. But LSU, this was a
impressive win. Now you're gonna look at it. Texas is
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in the SEC. Uh, Georgia is in the SEC. There
are no look, there are no They're not gonna be
any cakewalks. I mean even vandi Belt saying hold on,
hold on, We're not We're not your homecoming now. You know,
Vanderbelt used to be here, Johnny. First game of the
season was homecoming Vanderbilt on the schedule. Vander Belt was
like ten home comings the season, even when.
Speaker 6 (55:25):
They played coming out party that day.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Hey, everybody's thinking, hey, I'm in the past my stats,
you know. Hey, hey the party of the night. I
need I need to shine. But the the SEC is
gonna be very, very tough. Uh, Clemson, I agree with you, Johnny.
The acc that look that not ain't a whole lot
there right home.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
The team that we're about to talk about in a
little bit Florida State, they showed us something constantly.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
He showed. He showed us something today.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
Hey, Florida State, a Johnny. I don't know what order
state team we saw today, but they look really good.
Not only offensively, which has really been stagnant for a
very long time, but defensively.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
They came. They came to play Earl a un little junior.
Is that Earl little son?
Speaker 1 (56:14):
I think so it is. I think so.
Speaker 3 (56:16):
Hey, boy he nice, Hey he is nice? Yeah, he nice.
He was playing some good guy. Damn ball at the
boy
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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football is officially back. We had some games last week,
but now the real games started to come. And tonight's game,
Georgia Tech go on the road and in folsom Field
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at SeeU they win twenty seven to twenty. Hayes King
thirteen of twenty one forty three. He threw it an exception,
but it was his legs that was the difference. Nineteen
rushes a buck fifty six three rushing touchdown, the last
one forty five yards to put them ahead with the
minute and seven seconds left in the ball game. And
they go on the road and they defeat the Buffalo's
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twenty seven to twenty. The first game with Osha Door
Sanders and the receiver Travis Yer. So Colorado is on
a new era. Now a Caitlyn Salt, I think that's
his name. Seventeen to twenty eight, one to fifty nine,
one touchdown. They ran the ball really well, thirty one
for a buck, forty six, but it was Georgia Tech
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forty seven rushes three hundred and twenty seven yards. O Joe,
I was disgusted watching this game. I said, what about
gap integrity? What about contain? Georgia Tech has run the
football since I was a kid, even when they had
like a try and they ran the damn football, when
they had the Marrius Thomas, they ran the football.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Georgia Tech runs the football.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's like if you play the Naval Academy or Army,
you know they're gonna run the football. Oh Joe, I'm like, living,
are you gonna make any adjustment?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Are you what is your responsibility? What about your gap
must integrity? What about what about your contained responsibility? I'm like,
this is ut of the ridiculous and quarterback psalter bro
you missed entirely too many throws.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
He missed entirely too many.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Throws, Ojoe, number and number twenty got a nice set
of hands on in the running back. Bro he wide open,
and I hate when quarterbacks do this. So Joe, when
you miss a throw, you go to the running back
or you go to the wide receiver. Tomorrow, I wanted you, no, Bro,
I was right, there put it on me. All you
had to do is hit me right here. Don't tell
me about I said, don't do that, don't do that.
You fed it up and he had to guther thirty ten.
(02:17):
He missed entirely too many throws, but their defense let
him down tonight. You can't let somebody come into your
building and run the ball forty seven times for three
hundred and twenty twenty yards. Hold, let me see what
before you go over to Let me see what?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yes, I see if I want to see?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Uh no, hold to go back? Fuck score man? Oh Joe,
this was I'm like, but I knew I was on
the throne of my brother. Early in the game, I said,
spank a team give you three turnovers at home in
the first quarter, and you want to go seven points?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You telling that team beat me? Beat me?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Kick?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I ass yeah, he's supposed to have a They didn't,
and they got what they deserved.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Go ahead on't you the second? Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I said, Look, listen, what I was going to say is,
obviously we all wanted to see what Colorado, Colorado would
look like without shadoor Stands, without Travis Hunter, and they
didn't look that bad. First game of the season. You
want to get the kings out. You want to see
what areas you need to improve in. Obviously we see defensively. Defensively,
Colorado has to be able to stop the run, because
now it's out there on tape. What do we do
(03:27):
when we play against the Colorado Buffalo's to have success?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
We run. That was the issue last year though, Joe damn,
that was.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
The issue last year.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Obviously, Georgia Tech showed that that's a that's a that's
an area that hasn't been filled, so that needs to
be addressed.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Boom for me, for me.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
The beginning of the game, Georgia Tech tried to hand
the hand the game to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
They tried to hand the game.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So I'm saying, for goddamn, in my mind, I'm looking Boom.
After the first turnover, old them boy went down the store,
and then it was two more turnovers after that. I'm like, well,
all right, I don't like the way they just looking
because you got the ball back two more times.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
In the first quarter from Georgia Tek.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Quarter and you're only do something with it one time.
I say, you know what, if you gonna come down,
it's gonna come down.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
To the end.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's gonna come down to the end because offensively they're
not doing enough. They're not doing enough offensively to to
put me at ease and to put you know, to
make me calm. Because but one, the first tone over,
it was all the way in your territory. So of
course it was easy to go down the score. But
the other two it seemed like you really couldn't move Abo.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
You didn't the ball right, You tried, you tried everything
you could.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Established the run that the room was it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Was they they ran, I mean they ran for one
hundred and forty six yards.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, but obviously uncle wasn't No, it wasn't enough. You wanted.
You want a happy balance of both, you know, to
to kind of.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Keep the keep the defense, you know, on on on
their heels or not knowing what's gonna come.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Are they gonna run it? Are they gonna throw? But
they weren't good enough in the air either.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That the fact Oo, look, I think he has tremendous
arm talent, but bro, you don't have to impress us
with every throw of your arm. You're missing routine throws.
He's gonna have to learn how to throw better on
the move. Because on the move, he's not very good.
And you know we're gonna we're gonna be nice, Ohoe,
because he's a college kid. These are professionals. Although something
(05:24):
are making week one, it's week one. Two'scho throw it.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
On the move.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That should be able to week one, week no one,
week anything. You should be able to throw the throws
that he's missing, because that's third down. You're off the field.
You want to stay on the field. I want another crack,
Give me four more cracks at you. And we saw
him miss numerous throws. The second time he had an
opportunity to Oho, why would it He could have ran
the ball to the end zone instead of throwing it. Yeah, Bro,
(05:53):
we understand that you have a nice arm. I mean
we saw him launch it sixty sixty five yards. Bro,
Sometimes you gotta understand, Okay, this is an opportunity for me.
That was not the time for you to try to dazzle,
try to impress us with your arm. Pick up the
first down and another thing. Oh Joe, then I'm gonna
(06:13):
turn it back over to you. I don't know what
coach Primean was thinking. They got the ball back with
a minute and seven seconds in the ball game. You
got two timeout and you don't use any You talk
those same two timeouts you had to start that drive,
and you go into the locker room with them. So
you throw one pass behind the line of screamage, you
get tackled, you don't call time out, you throw complete
another pass on second down, you don't call time out,
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and then the quarterback picks up a third down, but
he burns eight nine, ten seconds on the club.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
What the hell are y'all doing on the scramble. I'm
not sure what was going on in that situation. Obviously,
you want to use those timeouts to give yourself as
much time as possible, continue running players to try to
get down in some type of range to throw a
hell Mary pass. I'm not sure what the what the
issue was there, But listen, they got some stuff they
(07:05):
need to work on. They have some stuff they need
to work on, and I'm sure Prime is glad that
college football is back. We're out there playing against opponents
and not just ourselves, so we can see what areas
we need to get better at. Obviously, some air loge,
some of the same stuff that we had issues with
last year. I'm gonna start with just the running game,
being able to stop the run game, having the head listen,
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having the meat and potatoes to be able to compete
up there in the trenches and stop people from running
down you goddamn.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Broa three that's.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Where three twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot too, boy, Oh
that's that's a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Football and stopping the run is about will. It's about
want to, because schematically, I can't do anything, Oh Jo,
they weren't doing anything. He faked the talls and then
they pull a guard, or they pull a double guard
to tackle, or they'll pull a guard and they'll pull
a running back. That's all they were doing. They wasn't
doing anything the past game. Schematically, Oh Joe, I can
(08:04):
scheme people when I run the football. It wasn't nothing fancy,
it was nothing. It was our guys kick your guys's ass.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's what we did.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And that's why football is for me mentally the toughest wort,
because you know, whyo, you're asking the one man to
move another man against his wheel. Now I know, Colorado,
they want to leave that that patch of grass, that
that a gap, that b gap that c or contained.
I know they didn't want to leave it. But Georgia
Takes said, you're getting your ass up.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Out of here. You getting up out of here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I'm like, bro, what Livingston? I know A I look,
you go back and you watch the film. There's a lot,
there's nothing. You didn't really do a whole lot good
other than the fact, you know when they got the lead.
I mean, you came down there when got twenty, you
match them. But then they go right back down the field,
right back down the field, and they ran the.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Football, O choke. Do you know what.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It takes to take to go seventy five sixty five
seventy yards?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I just run it. I think they threw one
threw one.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, on the on the ground. At that on the ground.
Is that?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Listen? You know you know the difference.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You know the difference and what matters when it come
wins and losses. What you got up there and you
run what you got to trenches, you ain't gotta You
gotta listen.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
If you ain't got enough.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Beating potatoes up there in your front and in your
front yard, and you got you them boys, ain't got
enough rocks in the back pocket, you canna get moved
you're gonna get moved around.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You can get pushed around. You know you understand that.
And that's what you saw tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
We won the same issues you had last year, and
it's only one way to fix it. You got to
get them big hogs up there. You got to that's
the only way to stop it. And then if you
don't have the size, you got to have people that wanted,
people that got this, that want to come downhill. Well,
you you know you want to move me against my wheel,
(10:02):
Well let me show you. I'm not one of those
that you're just gone, Hey, I ain't going nowhere. I
ain't going I'm coming to the party. It don't matter
what time I get there, but I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Corners, Oh Joe, whatever happened to I'm not gonna let
my outside arm get pinned. You never give up that leverage.
Where's the hell leverage? Where it is contained?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Don't know?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I mean, I'm sure it's hard for me to believe
with the personnel that Time has on that staff, they
don't teach leverage, they don't teach contained, they don't teach gap, responsibility,
gap integrity. I refuse to believe that, and constantly I
see I see DB's giving up the outside arm and
the guy running down the sideline constantly, I see off
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defensive alignment. I'm like, bro, that is your gap. How
you let that man get you up out of there?
That is your gap.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And the funny thing about it is just can coach
it and repeat it over and over and over and
over as many time as they want. Or when the
bus is flying on, you have one responsibility to take
what you're toy and execute the ex's nose.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That all comes down to want to. That all comes
down to want to at the end.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Of the day, Joe, the hair is the thing. When
you walking through something, it's easy. But if you want
to find out what a man can do, put him
to the test. The test is when the hut, when
that ball moves, that's the test.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
See, I know what you do.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I know what you're doing when you're walking through. I
know what you're doing. But if you want to know
what a man can really do, put him to the test.
Put him as under the gun and let's see what
he does. Because I've seen so many guys and you
have to and practice. They look like, oh they'll.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Catch the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I'm damn look at the ball, do you all saying?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And then getting the game and he playing like Colonel Sanders.
I'm like, oh no, hell no bad please so better chat.
I'm sorry, chout up on one tonight cause if you
guys can tell that Colorado game that got me pissed off,
(12:21):
I don't know. I'm to the highest I'm pistivity. Is
that a word?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah? And who who ain't playing like Colonel Who? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean in.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Practice they looking like Deon Sanders breaking on the ball.
Now they're getting the game, they're looking like Colonel Sanders
fried Chicken.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I'm looking and.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I understand, yo, I understand some of these guys. I mean,
I mean starting for the first time the bright lights.
But that but that's what that's what makes we who?
Who make us who we are? To being able to
perform under under duress, under advert and not forget that
(13:03):
I can't get my eyeside on pin. I got to
I got to, I got the hole contained. I've got
to maintain my leverage. I've got to. I got to
have sound gap responsibility. And you can't throw that out
the window because now all of a sudden they fired
off the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's the thing you've got to be able to hold that,
and chaid, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Look, maybe I'm using turns, but you watch the game.
You saw what I saw. Hell, my old ass could
have ran through some of them holes. Now I wouldn't
have got no forty five yards, but I have got
the first down. I was like, damn, it's they've got cut. Look,
(13:48):
it's the first game on Joe, and for me, I've
always felt that I wanted at home, especially the first
game on Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I gotta I got. I got a whole servant home
that got to and listen, they.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Have plenty opportunity off they have opportunity when they.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Got those two, those that second and that third one
over and do and didn't do anything with the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I said, it's gonna be a long I.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Told, I told Spa, I said, Colorado that that should
have set the.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Tone for the game right now.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
To put them down. It's the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Want put them down thirteen nothing, seventeen nothing at worst case.
But with three turnovers and that team's on the road,
you're in your home. It can't be seven nothing going
into the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It cannot be. It cannot be.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
And it puts all there. It puts all the pressure
back on because the half go ahead, go ahead of Joe.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Now I'm gonna say it puts all the pressure back
on Georgia Tech, where you won't have that comfortability of
being able to run the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I want all second half, all second half long.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Guess what I still got. You didn't take me out.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You didn't take me out of what I want to
do because it's only seven nothing. Now, maybe if it's
seven teen nothing, maybe if it's twenty one nothing, I
force you to throw the first. But now, even with
these turnovers, you allowed me to still stay in.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
My comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey, I don't know how to do it, oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But most of the time, if somebody, if you don't
make somebody get up out of if you got if
you written apartment, if you use somebody laying lord and
they go and they go a month or two and
they ain't paying you your money, there's a good chance
they're not gonna pay your week, three a month, four month,
five month, six, So.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So they's squadden. They squatten.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Basically, I've got a okay, guess what you come home
in the lock? It payd locked or the locks changed.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And then I don't know why. I don't know what happened.
I know what happened.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You thirteen thousand, you're fifteen thousand in the rears on rent.
And I've got responsibility. I got I got banks that
won't their mortgage on this on this building. And you
talk about man, I beg no one to hear nothing,
but you lost your job, right because I can't you
know what, I'm gonna bring you your money next month,
(16:08):
because you know a couple of my tenants lost their job.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
They're not trying to hear that. O Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So in this situation right here, all Colorado did with
yell across the field, Hey, appreciate them. Three turnovers? Now
kick our ass?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Three turnovers in the first.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, you got you got to do something. That's the
second one. I said, Okay, if they get another one,
we gotta we got to we got we got to
find a way to get the game.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Out of their hands, make it a little easy on
the back end.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Once they after that second one and they went damn,
damn there, damn there three and out they de damn near.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I might might as well have been I said, you
know it's gonna be along.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I know, Ikne.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
They wouldn't win it this game once they got them
three turnovers in the first quarter and they only came
away with seven points. And you allowed Georgia Tech to
stay within the scheme of what they want to do.
The first thing I want to do if you are
a running team, I want to get you out of that.
I don't want you to be able to run the football.
I want to what do you do? What is the
second best thing that you do? I want you to
play to that. I want you to play to your strength,
(17:14):
O Joe, I want you to play to your weakness.
And if you beat me with your weakness, on Joe,
I come to the center field. Congratulations, A good job. Hey,
stay healthy. I see you down the road, coach. But
I'm not going to let you beat me when I
know that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Right But like I said.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The decoordinator, I understand y'all put a lot of time
in because you know what Georgia Tech does. Georgia Tech
wants to run the football. But your gap, integrity, your leverage,
your contain was piss poor and that'll call you to
lose a lot of games. That'll call you to lose
a lot of games. We had this conversation last year
when they play Kansas. We've had these conversations over the
(17:56):
years when we're discussing Colorado about ain't able to stop
the run. Now, one thing I will say, Oh Joe,
they look better in pass protection. That left tackle, go
play at the next level. That left tackle number seventy seven.
He's gonna go play at the next level. Big play,
he gonna get, gonna go play, he gonna he gonna
be playing on Sundays. But they got to do a
(18:17):
better job. I don't care how good you are offensively
if you cannot stop the run because they're just protect
I mean, think about it. They still have five more
minutes of possession with three turnovers and a lot of turnovers.
Are like two plays, one play turnover, three plays turnover.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You give them, you give them the ball back too fast.
You're not doing nothing with it, not doing you're not
doing nothing with it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I jump, man, I was man. I was so frustrated
because I'm like, bro, oh, hold on.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
You think you frustrated tonight, wait till you wait, wait
till you see Tomorrow's game, you might be frustrated again.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Who who played tomorrow? Oh clem State mean I think
the thing is, oh yo, when games, if you know somebody,
I'm gonna be watching because I like Sark. I know
Sark here and I can recommunicate, So yes, I'm gonna
be i gonna be pulling for Sorrky. I'm sorry, Chad, Yeah,
I'm gonna be pulling for Sark because I like him.
But you know, when you know time, you kind of vested.
(19:17):
You know, you and I both have gone to see
you watched them play. It's a great atmosphere and this
was a winnable game for Colorado, but they did everything
they possibly could to help Georgia Tech steal it from them.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But Georgia take it, steal it. They went on the road, they.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Outplayed them, and coach says, look, we got We give
their defense credit because the defense votes they're back, because
they got the three. They only gave up seven points
on those three turnovers, so that could have they could
have gotten they could have gotten out of hand. Colorado
took care of the football. They didn't turn it over,
not one time. They had less penalties. But when you
when you let a team go run for three twenty
(19:56):
three twenty. I mean, first of all, two hundred yards
a lot when you start. Let teams get three hundred
four hundred yards running on you and please please Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But uh, I'm sure, coach Prime, I don't know how
they do it in college. Oo. I mean we played
on we played Saturday. We was off Sunday unless we
played like horse and coach and make us put our
uniforms on and go practice, go practice. I was thinking
about that, Oh you, Ojo, do you know?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean, think about it, Oho, if you played the
game on Monday, I mean Sunday, and coach and you
and the Cincinnati they said, oh you put your pants on?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
We going to practice on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I don't know about.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Hey listen, hey, Gray, grown folk, not grown folks that
ain't gonna work. We are not putting no pads on
after playing a three hour game on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
That's not happy.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I'm not sure who the chief captain would be, but
I can guarantee you they will not be in no
pads at the game day.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You already know how we feeling after.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Game yea, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
You know how long it takes to get out of
bed after a game, I do man, put on some
pass pass who shoe now ain't happy.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
But they'll probably have tomorrow off. Come in monday, wash
the tape and get ready because it's the fans.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Turn around on Joe. You can't. You can't let this linger.
That's stench. Is there get you something about?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Look it's been damn forty years since I was in college, yo, Joe,
but there's something about it. And I was never been
a big guy that went out after the game. But
I can assure you if we lost, you were gonna
see Sha shaw face on campus. Hell now you first
of all, you barely saw me after a win.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Barely. I'm talking about maybe.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I think I went to maybe one party and four
years of college, I ain't no, no, no, and we lose. Yeah,
I'm looking at the guys following out, Man, they hurry back,
oh Joe, the shop, especially if we own, they heard
the shower and go to the party.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I'm like you, sorry, mo, folks, y'all want people to
see y'all.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Y'all just oh.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I tell you what though, this is how I look
at it, and I'm gonna be honest. You have to
think my time during my tenure in Cincinnati. We had
what maybe one, maybe two winter seasons. I'm tired of
when I was there, so I had no choice but
the hand of my business week in and week out,
whether we're winning and losing.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Because I'm stepping out. I'm stepping outside, and I can
tell you I.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Know exactly where I was at because I had friends
of mine that I met main Rico Los. All them
boys died in Cincinnati as a group of five. We've
been friends in two thousand and one. I have no
other outside France outside of those I met on the
first day I got lost in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
First day. Still friends to this day.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Dude, we go to Ani's after every game we play
at one o'clock. The game in at three, we had
jail Alexander's at six o'clock. And then when when ten
or whatever it called, roll around.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh, I'm going out.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I'm going out because I'm trying to enjoy myself. Get
some of the sore on this out, walk around, have
a little fun, talk to some of the fans. You know,
the dudes out you know, out out the hood that
that be out off of Short Vine and and wherever
they're from.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know, just just talk football.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I was.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I was more of a people person, you know, during
that time, and love to talk to the game of
bought whether we were losing the winner. And I would
always shot my face whether.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
We were losing the winning.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean one of the worst times I had, oh yo,
I was in Baltimore and we had made I had
already made reservations at Ruth Chris. I had all brought
everybody in and we lost the game. If I didn't
have my mom and my sister and all them kids
out to cancel that, we will know.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I would get takeout. I would get take out. We
lost the game.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Hey, Sean were going around such as, I say, nah,
I'm going on home. I'm gone home. I'm I'm hey,
I'm a I'm a sore loser, I'm a worst winner.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But I didn't. I didn't. I don't. I don't. I
don't want to be around nobody. I know how I am.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm moody, I'm meritable because guess what, that's why y'all lost.
Y'all out here party. You need to be home in
your playbook, you need to be studying your play you
know what I'm saying. Try to hear that, So right right,
we take my black ass home soak mope and think about, man,
what could I have done differently?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Hey, and I was hanging with with us.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I was hanging with us.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
We'll have a game. We have a game of Obviously
we played one o'clock. I swear for god, you would
think I wasn't even a football player, but one not
just fall player, but the star football like that. Because
if you catch me after a football game, before me
and the fellas go eat dinner, you can just catch
me on short mind.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You can catch me down the way.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I go see my little young bulls that enjoy the
game of football. I sit there with them, talk about
the game for a little bit, you know, chit chat.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
We're on the corner.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Huh, We're on the corner, Cincinnati, just chilling.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Ain't nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I'm going home talking talking football for about an hour
or two. I sit there with them, smoke with the guard.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
After the game, boom, I go down to Jay Alexander's.
My routine was the exact same for a decade straight.
It never changed.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, I don't know if they're still any guests, but
I would go, I would call, I would get black
eyed plea with the name of the restaurant. I would
get the grilled chicken or the Country five steak. I
would get Colonel, I would get rice, I would get
Colonel corn, and I would get black eyed Peas.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Get so I get a.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Combination of like lemon lemon tea, limits raspberry tea or something,
and I'm going home. Yeah, that's it. I'm gone home.
I want I want to be I want to be
miserable by myself. I don't want to see nobody. I
want to talk about. I don't want nobody tell me
you played a good game, because I played like I
don't care if I had one.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Hundred and fifty. I played terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I didn't play good enough to win, and I don't
I don't want nobody to try to pat me on
the back. You guys gonna get no, not no. I
don't know what's going to happen after I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
About this game. So I knew. I know how I am.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I've always been like this. We lost the game in
high school. We going man, I'm going home, Coach, take
me home. If we win, your boy your boy a.
I would walk the streets with y'all.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
But we lose r Yeah you can.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You're taking it No, No, because I know because oh y,
I've always been one of these guys that works so
hard for it. I know what I put in, and
the more you put into something, the more hurt when
it doesn't work out in your favor.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
See, I like what you just said.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know what you put in.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I understand what I put in.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I understand the work I put in to make sure
I it is the team game, right, It's a game
when the come when it when it, when it comes
time to get.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Paid, you get paid.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You do you definitely.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Things don't now if the other ten don't do what
they supposed to, your fault, No, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I'm not finna punish myself. I'm punishing myself. Why am
I not going nowhere?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Because y'all are.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
You for the gum for the gut here off the
get my ja Alexanders, off of the talk to my homeboys,
you know, And I'm gonna go out.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I'm gonna go to Annie's and I'm enjoying myself.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I don't dream no alcohol, but you know, I got
my fellas with me. I got my fellas with I'm
gonna make sure they have a good time.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Uh oh, a transformer just hit Joe's house and so
he ain't got no power.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Joe got buzzled. Look he need to move.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Hey, hey, Joe, Hey, Joe over there on one hundred
million dollar property, one hundred million dollars property two in
the seventy three thousand square feet and ain't got no power.
Would have goddamn generator, Joe. Joe with a generator. I
know you got to generate out there, Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Everybody should have one, Atlanta, because I'm pop up storm,
gonna pop up and knock it out.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Go mick your power.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Wow, hold on, can Joe see us right now? Hey, Joe,
can you see us? He got me? Joe? Now, he
got a cell phone that you don't got. Come on, now,
you know you need L T E G G five
What you call it?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
What you call a five? G?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
That yet?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I don't require nothing. Your phone should work, Joe. Facetiming
Joe if you can see, yes, you being But the
internet in the house has nothing to do with your
cell phone working. And look here, okay, hey, he can FaceTime.
I can just hold the phone up.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
You can see if.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You're part of the show coach Prime, who was recently
diagnosed with bladder cancer and needs frequently used of the restroom,
no longer has to travel far. He has a portable
toilet next to Colorado's bench to accommodate him following bladder
reconstruction surgery, and it's sponsored.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Being bad time tied by his bike.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Hey, hey, that that that depends why they I know
they paying will.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Oh yeah for sure because a lot of people embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I wish I would why you know how many zeros probably?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, but saying a lot of people are don't want
people to know that they have to wear adults undergarment.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know what I'm saying like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You got to understand who Prime is.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
You got a Prime is he wants He's one that
could wear any and everything on his shoulders, non give
a damn, but none of y'all on the outside.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
The people wear them, but they don't want to advertise it.
But like you said, you know, you know what I'm saying, Hey,
hold on, they make them for a reason. Anytime they
make something, somebody is purchasing it. So it's a lot
of you know, sometimes women after they have kids, it
takes a while for them for those muscles to get
back strong with that. Sometimes men they have a lot
(29:47):
of cancel. They have prost they have issues. It's it's
it's hard and some you know, hey, uh, my grandmother,
my grandmother wouldn't wear them. She said, live, I want
my dignity, So my grandmother wouldn't we My grandmother wouldn't
wear and you know she obviously she passed. I think
Ranny was eighty eight. She had made and made she
was eighty eight, so she passed in July.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'll tell you what depends. If you see this, come on,
I let you do. It.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Ain't nothing wrong with you, hey, But sometimes I do
be thinking about getting me a goose.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I be tired of walking to the bath through. Man,
I just need to get me a goose and go
right inside the bed.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Hey, hey, give me, give me something.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I could just roll over to the right or roll
over to the left. I don't want to get up
out of bed anyway, because.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I keep I keep, I keep upstairs.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
But by sixty degrees, hey, sixty degrees, it's freezing up there.
So when I got to get up in the middle
of the night, sometimes I don't want to do that.
I could always use the bag. I'm gonna date myself here.
And if you if you my age older and you're
from the South, you know what I'm talking about. Hey,
I'm gonna get me a night pot or slop jar.
So if you're from the South and you my age older,
(30:54):
you know exactly. They call them peapots, they call them
night pots, they call them slop jars.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Google it, that's what that. Any time I say something,
I see, hey, you know that, wouldn't that mean that's
she immediately any time I say something with you, I
can see the fake. But uh yeah, but I'll be
looked to where it depends. That's the least of That's
(31:26):
the least of the issues I was. I'm glad they
caught this in time. I mean, think about it. Boy, Hey, God,
good God, great? And what he instilled a man to
take his bladder and reconstruct it and use a small.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Man please man. But uh, I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
If anybody look this man that Joe time, his attitude
about anything, He'll make anything positive.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It could be the worst situation.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's one of the few people no matter how bad
a situation is is, he can make it positive. He
can make light of a situation, make it a and
you a and it thinks that you know A like
when I did the interview, and I know a lot
of you guys have seen the interview. When I went
up there and I started getting on him about his toes,
(32:16):
he would have it any other way because he like,
you know, if it was on the if it was you,
you know, I get you.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I was like, absolutely, I know, absolutely, I know.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Joe's gonna fly nine. That's that's something that's gonna always happen.
But we all, we all had that type of relationship though.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Oh you okay, that's what a you okay, you good man,
you know I'm good. Oh you should have told me that.
You should have said nah, should have told me that
I gotta get you. Florida State pullsy upset unranked Florida
State takes down the number eighteen in the country to
put pressure on Todd Simpson a pretty much all day.
(32:53):
He was pressured on sixteen or fifty one drop backs,
one of ten for thirty yards with three sacks. When pressure,
Simpson was not on the same praig as Ryan Williams,
who left the game late with a concussion Simpson was
just five of eleven when targeting him, all three on
passes thrown more than five yards down the field.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Kailing the I was. I was thinking to myself, Johnny
and Ocho.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I was like, man, look here, I understand, ain't there's
not a college coach that's gonna be Coach Saban.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But you can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
He's lost to four unranked teams in fourteen games. Coach
Saban was there damn near two decades and he might
have lost four unranked teams in his whole tenure. And
I was like, man, they might get rid of kailing
the boar. But I looked at that buyout. He has
a seventy million dollar buyout. They ain't got them deep
pockets like y'all got Johnny down in Texas, A and
(33:42):
M where y'all got a Jimbo up out of there
for seventy seven million. They ain't got pockets like that.
So so o'chilly BASKI this. You watched, You watched Alabama. Yeah,
Coach Saban's not walking through that door anytime soon. Okay,
Coach Saban's not walking through that door ever.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
When you look at Alabama, they don't even look the same.
They don't have the same swagger. They don't even take
the field to save.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well, unk, you got to understand, of course they don't
look the same. This is what we're seeing now. When
the saving was there, this was pre.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
N I l huh, this was pre n il nil
came along, and even the scoreboard all the way across.
So all the talent and the players that used to
go to Alabama where everybody would go and have to
wait in line.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
They got received after the receiver after receiver, quarterback after quarterback,
after quarterback, running back after the running back, at the
running back, everybody going all over the place because teams
have money and players don't want to sit and wait
behind anybody else.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
They want to play.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Right now, money talks, which is one of the reasons
why Nick Saban left. Because the even the playing field
has even where the level of talent is scattered across
everywhere where.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Now most of the part coaching comes into play, and
coaching is that much more important? Is that much more
important now?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Because Florida State today, I'm not gonna say they embarrass
they embarrass Alabama, but I guarantee you a lot of people,
a lot of people, especially if you gamble, I guarantee
you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I guarantee you had Alabama to win.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Johnny, what you think, what didn't you like about what
you saw from Alabama? And what did you love about
what you saw from the Seminoles?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
I mean, I think Castelano's for Florida State jumped off
the page and every aspect of everything. You know, you
look at what they did. He only threw the ball
nine times. That's super effective. To be able to go
put thirty one points up and you only throw the ball,
You're only nine to fourteen for one hundred and fifty two.
That's efficient. The one thing that I will say that
I think in the past, you walk in fac an
(35:44):
Alabama team, you probably got a little fear. This is Bama,
the team that's been a dynasty, the team you got
a little fear. That fear aspect of what Alabama is
is completely gone. And nobody's scared of them boys. Not
Van Dy, not Kentucky, not nobody. Nobody's walking in and
seeing Alabama on the schedule and having any kind of shake,
any kind of fear. Nothing. They've been getting wiped the
(36:07):
last couple of years. You say that buyouts deep, but
like they're not going to sit here and let this
stand for sure. We're gonna find it in orid somewhere.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
They absolutely will, because I was thinking the same thing
what they said about Jimbo, because prior to Jimbo, the
biggest college buyout was Gus Mozan when he got twenty
one million to leave Auburn, And basically you tripled damn
near quadruple that with this buyout for Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
When you're Alabama and you've had to expect and you've
done what you've done six national championships, you lost another
two times in the championship game, you're damn there. They
called it the Alabama Invitational because Alabama was in it
every year and people had them with a chance to
win it every year. You can't count Alabama out. You
can't count Alabama out. But lest you said, Johnny, nobody
(36:55):
fears Alabama anymore. And when you don't, that's half the battle.
It's fear, that's one of that's one of your biggest strength.
There's another man's fear where they don't have that anymore.
And I'm looking at Alabama, O Joe. They ain't got
the same level of talent. You're absolutely right when you
look at you look at the running backs, it was
mark Ingram and Trent Richardson and this one and that one.
(37:15):
And you look at and Derrick Henry and Mr Gibbs
and this one, that one. You go, you go look
at the wire receivers.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You went to.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Julio and Ridley and Cooper and this one and that
one and Judy. And you look at the quarterbacks. You
look at those big d linemen they used to have.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
You look at the DB's they don't have that no more.
They just have guys.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Now, ain't nobody Just when do you watch the game,
Johnny and you played against them? When when can you
honestly say you watched an Alabama team and it ain't
nobody jump off the page at you.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Ain't nobody, Like, damn, ain't nobody gonna tie?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Not since the Georgia game, Not since the Georgia game
last year where Ryan Williams did his thing and absolutely
went crazy. He turned in one player stand out where
you're like, Okay, this guy is a level of talent
of Alabama that we're a customers. Seeing everything else, you
may see a splash or a dash here or there,
but you're not seeing it consistently week in and week
out like you're accustomed to.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
And the funny thing, too, uncle is I said something
about for me obviously being a receiver, and thinking about
college football and thinking about all the players have been
promoted and advertised as supposed to be you know them boys,
and me saying like nobody popped out to me on
film today, and people and people in the chest saying
it's only week one. Yeah, week one, Yes, it's week one.
(38:32):
That's the whole point. You allowed to pop out. Just
because there's week one. That don't mean you can't. You
can't show ye, That's what I'm saying. What do we
talk about? It's only week one? Yes, that's when you
actually pop out and you show off when you're playing
against the top talent, you're playing against the good teams.
These are the games you're supposed to pop out because
(38:53):
you're trying when you get to the next level. Every week,
it's the same thing. Every week you play an NFL,
it's them boys, you play against them boys. So I'm
expecting I was expecting. I was expecting maybe coaches wanted
to call conservative games. Maybe didn't want to feature the
players that we've all been been noticing on commercials and
seeing over and over and over. So maybe maybe next week,
(39:18):
maybe the week after, I don't know. At some point
the games of the day were okay. The Alabama, Alabama
and Florida State game to me, was probably the best
and the most exciting with the Clemson.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
The Clemson game followed after that.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
But there's one more game we haven't talked about yet
that was the absolute snooze fest.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I'll wait till we get there.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
When I look think about Alabama, the one thing Alabama
could do was stop the run. You know, Coach Saban, Johnny,
you had to throw. The thing that gave coach Slaban
problem has always given coach Slaban problems, the dual threat
quarterback and the guy that could pass the football. You
go back and look when they lost to Oklahoma, A
Trevor Knight I think that was his name. You look
at what he did to them in the Sugar Bowl.
(39:58):
He's still back there and he threw the ball. Now,
the thing that gave him the most problem is a
dual threat quarterback, a guy that could throw the ball
and run.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
You look at Johnny.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
You look at Johnny Manziel, you look at Deshaun Watson,
you look at guys that Cam Newton. You look damn,
you're so happy if you're talking about two guys wening
the Heisman Trophy, one guy with one of the better
quarterbacks in the NFL before the injuries and things off
the field took place. You see, but they got ran
on forty nine times for two point thirty. Coach, you
(40:27):
don't run on Bama Baba, don't let you run. They
they stuffed your run and then they go hunt your quarterback.
They can't really hunt the quarterback. They really can't consistently
stop the run. And Constall Liianos was doing whatever he
wanted to do, Like you said, Johnny, extremely efficient in
the passing game, only threw the ball fourteen times. But
(40:47):
when you can and you know guz Mozhan, you know
what he wants to do. He wants to run the football.
He wants to give you a lot of mis direction.
He's gonna run Jet Sueet. He's gonna run your quarterback.
Hes gonna run his quarterback. That's what he does.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
A Florida's almost lost, not almost lost that game, but
almost letting them boys back in the game too. After
the after the second half, that second half and third quarter,
every everything started being conservative.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Everything started to be conservative.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
That the three and outs given given Alabama the ball back,
allowing them to have a chance to get.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Back into the game.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Now, if it was the old Alabama or a team
that was a little bit more competent and the fishing.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
With the ball, hell, Alabama could have came back and
win that game.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
With as conservative as Florida's plate Florida State played in
that second half.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
What old Alabama would have been behind like that? That too,
Go ahead, Johnny.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
I think I think you look at what Alabama wants
to do. In the past, they would always say, listen,
we're gonna go man on man. We're gonna take our
best versus your best, and we're gonna lock you down.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Times.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Like we said in the past, where they've you know,
had success against an Alabama has been when you know
their running man coverage running down the field, and the
quarterbacks able to escape, to contain and be able to
get out. But this is a team that just doesn't
even resemble that, Like we're gonna put our best corner
against your best receiver and body and throw them out
of bounds and bully them up. Or you know, we're
(42:05):
gonna take our best edge rusher and just absolutely mop
you all day long.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
You don't.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
You're not used to seeing an Alabama team get pushed around,
especially in the trenches. No, and.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, and plus they can't run the ball like they're
used to. You know, Alabama get them hogs up, and
I'm looking at the offensive line they go six seven
three forty six seven three twenty six six.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm like, bro, y'all big for no reason? Why the
hell you that big? If you can't blocked, if you
ain't moving though, Oh joe, you got to move furniture?
You that big? Yeah? I said, y'all that big and
cave block the sun that gives I say, what, damn,
ain't no paying, no sism, big, ain't no sistant being
that big. If if you ain't gonna move something, Yeah,
I'm like, what damn? I mean?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Twenty nine rushes for eighty seven yards? Oh joe, twenty
seven rushes eighty nine yards?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Yeah, three yards of carry if Florida State look good
on I'm talking about all three levels up front, second
level and the secondary. I really want to know, Chad.
I don't know if you guys know, if you remember
Earl little that played for Cleveland Browns, is that his son,
little Junior?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Hey? He was all you talking about the dB Earl
Little right, Yes.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Earl Little Win of North Miami down here in Miami.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I think that is the son.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Think so, man, he was balled the boy.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Nick Saban coach two hundred and thirty games at Alabama.
He had four losses to unranked teams during his stretch.
Kaitlin de Boor has coached fourteen games, and he just
lost his fourth game to an unranked team since two
thousand and seven. In games in which Alabama was favored
by at least fourteen points. Coach Saban is one thirty
one and two. Kaylen de boer is four and four.
(43:47):
They get you up out of there. You don't want
to be the man. You don't want to be the
man to follow the man. You want to be the
man that followed the man that followed the man. So
I want to be the guy that came after the
guy that followed coach Saban. I don't want that pressure.
You don't want to follow coach Bryant. You don't want
to follow a Nick Saban. You don't want to follow
one of those the parts with sir, or those air procedures,
(44:09):
one of those those mythical coaches.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You want to be the guy that followed the guy
that followed him.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Because now that's what I'm going to forget, because I've
got some separation between me and Coach Saban. I've got
separation between me and one of these historic, great, great coaches.
The question that I have for you, Johnny, is that
do you believe the ni L would be the best
death of the SEC.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
No?
Speaker 6 (44:34):
I don't think so. I think the South will only
the SEC in that conference will only find a way
to work around it and do what they need to do.
There's too much money there. There's too much in these
collectives to be able to make it, to make it successful.
I think we'll see some more. I think we'll see
different programs, different games, the name Georgia Alabama, the same
(45:00):
couple of little pockets, the teams that have been winning SEC.
So I think it'll give him some disparity in that regard.
But you know, for the most part, I think the
SEC is aligned for whatever moves forward in the college
football in iol landscape, whether it's getting to bigger conferences
where we only have three big conferences throughout the country
or four or whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
It may be.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I think the SEC can keep accumulating teams more teams
and end up being, you know, the biggest conference, sixteen
twenty teams. You know, it's all said and done, and
this stuff kind of plays itself out.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Oh Joe, what you think it? Because you look at Underwood,
we might think we might touch on him. You get
Larry Ellison, one of the top three richest men in
the world. He underwrites it. You get Dave poytn Or
from Barstool. You get a Tom Brady says, hey, I'll
personally help you out and mentor you and coach you.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
And you give a kid, an eighteen year old twelve
and a half million dollars, say, come on down.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Here is what we got for you. It's hard when
you got these deep pocket donors. You get a team
like an Oregon, and you got Nike, and you got
those that field night dollars, and you get all those
uniforms and you so now it ain't no no Dodge Chargers,
it ain't no challenges. These guys got Ferraris, Johnny, these
guys got lambos, these drives, these guys driving colorings and
(46:18):
McLaren's yeah at eighteen nineteen year olds.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, yep, yeah, listen, hey, the landscape has changed. Landscape
has changed, and it's like I said, I said it
even the plan field, and I think it's good a thing.
It's good for the players. I think it's good for
the players because not only are you able to obviously
get money for playing the sport you love, you're able
to help your family out. You're able to help your
(46:42):
family early as long as you can stay focused and
understanding that you got this money as just a jumpstart
for your bigger dream, for your bigginess, but making it
to that next level where the real money is. As
long as you can lock in, stay focused and do
what you need to do. I think I like it because,
like Johnny said, it adds some very obviously to college
football in general, and even the playing field where everybody
(47:05):
gets the talent instead of one or two or three
or just three teams getting everybody.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
You're right, because they sure it sure seems that way.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Now it doesn't look like I mean and not look
Alabama still get five star recruits, but they don't look
like the five stars they normally get. It's seemingly Ohio
State are getting those guys now and they're like you said,
I mean, if they're twenty five thirty five star, Alabama's
getting one or two where they normally have two running backs,
two wide receivers, three d lineman, two old linemen, a corner,
(47:39):
the number one, the number two or three dual threat.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Those guys don't look like the same caliber player that
they want normally once.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Have had had. And I think you guys are right.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
And you know I have a question too.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Go ahead, johnny'all can probably help me out when it
comes to these stars and whoever is rating them. Yeah, yes,
from the people that's supposed to be these four and
five stars. When the lights were bright tonight, when the
lights were bright today in general, the stars didn't come out.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
The stars didn't come out at all.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
What and that's the thing what you alluded to, you
say when people you you tweeted what you tweeted, and
people say what Yanna, They said, Oh, Joe, well, is
just the first game.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
It doesn't matter if you if you are who you
say you are.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
First game second game, third game, first quarter, second quarter,
third quarter.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
It does not matter.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, and I'm you're like.
Speaker 6 (48:37):
A pit bull on a leash when this first game
comes up, you're.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
You know you've got bang bank plays going across the
middle and you can't touch each other, and you're running
by and you're barking. This is what you're doing all
training camp. You're bake blowing stuff up. Yeah that you'll
be like, oh.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
If that was in a game, we tore your ass up.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
That's what you're doing with the all spring and all
training camp.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
Now you're wish it's your time to run for first
time on the field, maybe in front of the lights. Yeah,
it could hit you a little weird a couple of spots,
but when it comes down to a dog is a
dog and it's time to be off the lead one.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Oh all right, let's get into it right now. The
game that just went off LSU the number Tigers number nine,
number time number nine. Excuse me, LSU Tigers go on
the road into first time in a long time. You
had two death valleys. That's what Clemson called their home
death Valley. That's what LSU calls their home death valley.
(49:38):
So one death valley went into the other death Valley.
So number nine LSU go on the road take down
the number four Clemson Tigers by the score of seventeen
to ten. Garrett Nussmyer played extremely was john I thought
he played really well in the second half. He calmed down,
he showed a lot of poise, a battle back, and
they got to wear a very tough fault victory. Normally
(49:59):
ear on in the season, these are the type of
games LSU normally lose it. And you see opening they
lost the Florida State they got blown out, and then
they lost the year before that they got beat. Now
LSU showed me a little something going on the road
in an extremely hostile environment the number four team in
the country and getting a win. That was very, very impressive. Johnny,
(50:20):
let me ask you this, what did you like about
what you saw from LSU.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
I mean, I think you look at a lot through
the game. You see it was kind of stagnant there
for a while where nothing was really happening. It's kind
of just kicking it back and forth waiting for something
to happen. But they stayed patient and that's mired finally
got things going a lot better in the second half.
They have the turnover in the first half that really
killed a lot of momentum. But one of these kind
of slugfest games that when you go on the road,
you never really know how you're gonna win these and
(50:46):
get these done, but when you look at the end
of the day, you want to have this win. I
think they just found a way to get it done
in the second half. Nothing too like overwhelming, overpowering or
anything like that, but just a solid, you know, one
touchdown win.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Oh Joe, what'd you like about what you saw from LSU?
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Considering these are the type of games we talked about
that Brian Kelly has seemingly lost early in the season,
and finding a way to win a game like this.
You know, when you beg on the road and you
beat the number four team in the country, it doesn't
matter if it's seventeen tim and if it's seventeen sixteen,
if it's eleven, if it's four to three, you.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Want long as long as you get to win. Listen,
LSU played extremely way.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
I think the beginning of the game it was very
stagnant as a very defensive game. Obviously most of the
time when it comes to college football, even NFL, the
defense is always ahead of the offense because all they
have to do is read and react, and it takes
time for offenses to get rolling.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
And what I did see from LSU and I didn't
see enough of. Let me tell you what I didn't
see enough of unk.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Of LSU is being wide receiver university. LSU, to me
is now wide receiver university.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I don't see that dog.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
I don't see that one there out there that can
make a difference for LSU. And I doesn't see that
for Clemson either. There are another university that produces some
good wide receivers. I haven't seen anybody emerged. Actually, honestly,
were talking about not just this game, the entirety.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Of the day about college football.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Those that I thought are supposed to step up, those
that have always been on my radar as really really
good receivers.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Nobody, really, what's the word looking for?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Nobody really stepped up to the pression.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, nobody, nobody, Especially this game tonight.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
I was really looking forward to to seeing somebody for
LSU to make a difference in the game, somebody for
Clemson to make a difference in the game.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
But that didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
It was more of a defensive defensive slug fest, and
the points that were scored they were earned on Every
point was earned the night.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I think LSU will look back on this game, and
if the Seeds they go and have the type of
season that I think guys they want to have, they'll
definitely look back at this game. Anytime you can go
on the road in a hostile environment. And this is
not Clemson's number four team in the country. They have
the number three rated overall prospect. He happened to be
a quarterback Clinton cub Nick Club Nick uh and to
(52:59):
go in there and to get that win, I think
that tells you. I think Brian Kelly learns something about
his team tonight, Johnny. I think he really have I
really think he has a team now that he believes
that he can take it anywhere in any environment and
get a victory.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
Look, this is the playoff team Clemson from last year,
same quarterback, coming back, a lot of the same pieces.
So you got to feel like early in the season,
you know this game has been scheduled on their you know,
bulletin board for the whole offseason, and they knew what
they were coming into to play, and like we said earlier,
this is a game LSU normally doesn't come out and win,
so for them to do that has to make them
feel really good about themselves. I don't see anything in
(53:36):
Clemson's game that they should feel too down on. You know,
you obviously want to win this game, but going through
the ACC and the schedule that they have, they'll be fine.
I think they need to continue to have club Nick
run the ball as he did a couple times there,
to extend some drives and do some certain things. But listen,
everything's going to go through that guy number two for Clemson,
and if he doesn't put a touchdown on the board,
(53:57):
you know they're usually not going to come out with
a win in that situation.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, LSU had to play well. They showed up with
T shirts with one to oh on it. When you
on the road, Johnny and O Joe. When you show
up on the road against the number four team in
the country and you wearing T shirts and you already
got one to oh boy, you better come out there, boy,
you better come on out there and play. And they played.
They played that second half, they really dominated it. They
(54:21):
really dominated this game. Like I said, like Johnny, you
were twenty eight to thirty eight, two thirty one touchdown,
not over powering. He didn't have a three hundred yard day,
he wasn't seventy plus percent completion percentage, but he was solid.
He made big time throws when he absolutely had to
have him to get a drive, tie the ball game up,
and then he goes down and get the go ahead touchdown.
(54:43):
He was very, very impressive, and I think Brian Kelly
has to be impressed with his team. Defensively, they started
getting out the club nick and once they started to
put that pressure on, they brought a blipse the guy
a linebacker looped around on fourth and four and they
turned them over on downs. But LSU, this was a
impressive win. Now you're gonna look at it. Texas is
(55:03):
in the SEC. Uh, Georgia is in the SEC. There
are no look, there are no They're not gonna be
any cakewalks. I mean even vandi Belt saying hold on,
hold on, We're not We're not your homecoming now. You know,
Vanderbelt used to be here, Johnny. First game of the
season was homecoming Vanderbilt on the schedule. Vander Belt was
like ten home comings the season, even when.
Speaker 6 (55:25):
They played coming out party that day.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Hey, everybody's thinking, hey, I'm in the past my stats,
you know. Hey, hey the party of the night. I
need I need to shine. But the the SEC is
gonna be very, very tough. Uh, Clemson, I agree with you, Johnny.
The acc that look that not ain't a whole lot
there right home.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
The team that we're about to talk about in a
little bit Florida State, they showed us something constantly.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
He showed. He showed us something today.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
Hey, Florida State, a Johnny. I don't know what order
state team we saw today, but they look really good.
Not only offensively, which has really been stagnant for a
very long time, but defensively.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
They came. They came to play Earl a un little junior.
Is that Earl little son?
Speaker 1 (56:14):
I think so it is. I think so.
Speaker 3 (56:16):
Hey, boy he nice, Hey he is nice? Yeah, he nice.
He was playing some good guy. Damn ball at the
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