BEST OF CFB WEEK 1 PART 2: Archie and Bill Belichick a BUST respectively?!

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest College Football stories from Week 1 on Nightcap! Time to press the panic button on Archie Manning, Da U football finally back, Bill Belichick debut and much more 

 

0:00 - Archie Manning struggles massively 
13:32 - Is Miami finally back?!?!
42:33 - South Carolina defeats VA Tech
50:26- Bill Belichick’s coaching debut with UNC ends in blowout loss to TCU

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Including nearby Cleveland, Brown, Manning was inconsistent. He completed seventeen
to thirty passes one hundred and seventy yards, one touchdown
to an interception, A very underwhelming day for a player
some has paid just the number one pick in the
twenty twenty six NFL Draft. Johnny, is this a side
of things to come? Or we just saying it's just
one star eight Let's not make too much of it.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I mean, listen, I think as an overall, as a
player like they will, this is one of the things
you start early in the season. And I was talking
to Jake Spavatol, who is my offensive coordinator my second year.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
He plays at Baylor.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm talking to him about the game the night before
and he's just like, fuck, man, we can't run the ball.
And there's certain things early on in the season where
you need more reps and more game reps and more
live speed reps. And this is something that's always been
a question with Arch, which is has he played enough?
Has he got enough reps enough to be able to
come into a game like this and be prepared and
ready to go.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
And today it didn't look that way.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I think as you saw their nice drive they had
in the fourth quarter where they went down and scored.
He has that capability, right, but like to do it
from the first snap all the way throughout the game
and be consistent with it. This isn't Louisiana Monroe. This
isn't the teams he's pomped in last year and played against.
Like this is the defending, reigning, really good Ohio State

(01:20):
football team. Like, you're not that red dot that he
said that they were swinging to everybody else. My motherfucker
must be broken or something, because that did not look
like the number one team in the country today at all,
and it was an all time quote. I'm cool for it,
but if you're gonna walk out like that with the gap,
you better back it up.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And the thing of what, Look, everybody keeps saying that
he's a generation bro, We've got to start with this
generational stuff. Everybody is not generational just because they have
one or two good games. That does do you understand
what the generation is? Do you understand what transcended me?
You know what transformative means. We just be you, We

(02:03):
just be using stuff because it sounds good. Stop saying
that he's not He might be that. But if you
look at at arch Man and you say he's transient,
he's a transformative, he's generational, you're lying he's not because
guess what, they shut down the run and then it's like, okay,

(02:25):
go win the game. And like you said, Johnny, the
thing what happened is that when Ewers were hurt last
year and he's playing substandard teams and he looked really good, well,
they should go to arch they should go to Ars,
they should go to art Bro. But when you go
step up on Ohio State and you face the Texas
and you face the Alabama's no bro that that's not

(02:47):
good enough, that's not good enough, and he's gonna have
to be much better.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Because if you looked at him.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
And his starts and when he's played had to step
up in competition, if you can look at him and say, well,
he's generational, I just I've got to We've got different
definitions of what generational is.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Listen, I mean, listen, this is part of the media's fault. Honestly,
this is part of the media's fault and crowning him
a generation talent, crowning him the next big thing, obviously
because some of the games he played in last year.
He looked decent when he when when he came in
when Eras went down and was hurt. But again, you
come in week one, you playing against them boys? What

(03:28):
did Johnny say? A dog is gonna be a dog
regardless of circumstance, regardless where there's week one, week two,
or week three. So now, sometimes things look funny in
the light. Sometimes things look funny in the light where
the media has propelled and been propped up an individual
that they are this generational talent, supposed to be the

(03:49):
number one pick in the draft, and so we're expecting
to see just that. It was, it was, it was.
It was a bad day. It was a bad day
for us. It was a bad day. I think it's
gonna be all right. I think gonna be all right.
But base of what we saw today, Nah, that that
ain't it. That ain't it. I think they couldn't scored.
They couldn't even score it. They couldn't score. They couldn't
run the ball. So if they if you can't run

(04:10):
the ball, you can't score. And Office of Coordinator wants
to be able to say, you know what, I need
you to win it with y arm I need to
win it with your arm, and they couldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Go ahead, Johnny Wood, you want to say, I think
it like for football guys, especially you guys playing, you know,
a tight end receiver position, one of the first things
you ever do is just mesh.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Texas runs a lot of mesh throughout this game, and
they're just those little for.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
A quarterback, just easy, little.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Thrill completions to get the offense rolling, just pitch and
catch type of stuff. There's just so many times throughout
the game where he's just a little off balance, Like
these are the ones where you step, you cut them off,
you lead them on right in front, easy pitch and
catch confidence boosters that Texas didn't really have throughout the day.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
And when you get stagnant and you're sitting there late.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
In the third quarter, fourth quarter, you have no points
on the board, you keep coming back to the sideline
taking your helmet off, and you're like, damn, we can't
get anything going for Arch. In those situations, those are
the ones you just have to go back to the
very basics of what you do day one.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Install whatever it is, take.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
A little three step drop and just throw the shallow
real quick whether it's bang bang, get tackled or whatever.
You got to build on some momentum and be able
to get yourself in a spot because look, the talent
is there. I think he will get to a point
where he's good enough. And this is the thing that
we've said all season. The media puts a lot of
hype on him.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's his turn.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
You go.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
You have the chance and every opportunity.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
You want, everybody watching, all eyes are on you go
do it. So one game is not make or break,
but nope, it's a true test to where Texas is
and they are not the number one team in the country.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
That's for sure.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
You wanted to go ahead, o't Joe.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I'm gonna say one more thing. It's really small. It's
really small. Just watching game with arch manage today. Obviously,
the receivers, the receivers over there in Texas. It's supposed
to be some boys over there. It's supposed to be
some dogs over there. It's supposed to be one of
the players early in the game where where our story
interception and I'm looking they but they got the bunch
split right, They got the bunch spit and the dB,

(06:15):
I mean the dB, the receiver. He got the seventh round,
he got the crowd, but the goddamn corner staying way upfield.
He's staying high on this inside shoulder. So the first
thing you the first thing you do, I'm like, well,
what is the receiver doing, man?

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Just break it off a run of a square out.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Ye had like a big ass deep ass out man
the DV the deep I mean, I don't I don't
know what. I don't know what the receiver's doing. There
was an interception, but I'm like, no, Arch through the
ball in the right place. The receiver got to know. Well, hell,
if the DV want to keep running to the goddamn pylon,
I'm gonna just break it off of what fifteen eighteen
yards and just have to be chunk catch. Yeah, And

(06:51):
this just stuff like that. If Arch is not playing well,
that means the receivers have to be on point of
the out side. They got to be on point. They
got help him out. You got to build them out.
In that situation.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
It didn't help that you're playing the number.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
You're playing the team that won the National championship the
opening game on.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
The road, and they're building.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, we know how, we know what Ohio State represent
We know how that crowd is, and they got they
got an NFL former NFL defensive coordinator coordinating that defense.
Normally NFL defensive coordinators when they go to college, they
have a lot of success because they can get really
exotic and can confuse because you know, if they can
confuse NFL quarterbacks that's been quarterbacking for a number of

(07:33):
years at that level, they should have some success against
a college quarterback in his real, first true year of starting.
So I'm gonna give a little leeway, but there are
some throws that I expect him to make. If you're
what they say you are, it doesn't matter who you're playing,
there are certain throws you should be able to complete,

(07:54):
and we didn't see enough of that today. But like
you said, this was the worst case scenario for Art
starting on the road, your first you know game as
the true leader on the road in the horseshoe.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
That's uh.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
You're asking for a lot. But we got to stop
throwing around generational. We just gotta just let's just calm down.
Let him play. We want him to be Peyton and
Eli oh, he gonna be number one overall pick.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Just let him play.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
I to say, when you when the way they throw
him around, the way they advertise him, the way the
media talks about him. So regardless of what you're playing
in the horseshoe, regardless of where you playing Hio State,
regardless of where this week one, we are expecting to
see exactly what the media says you are m But anyway,
that's that's he didn't play well. He didn't play well.

(08:46):
I'm sure he'll rebound next week. I'm not sure who.
I'm not sure who.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
This week at San Jose State.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
He might Hey, listen, he might throw for seven hundred.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well you ate, ideally, Johnny, you wont San Jose first,
then go to Ohio State?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
You hey, you are?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I want to get my feet a oh Joe, I
just don't want to. If you notice, guys when they're swimming,
they putting the water on their body. They want to
feel the little water. Look they hey, let me sometimes
you know, they jumped down in there and get get
a little bird bath on. But like I said, I
just wanted the people to just stop using that word.
It seems like every time we get a decent player,
oh he's, oh he's he's he's a generational. Bro y'all

(09:29):
need to understand what generational means, and I don't think
you do because it sounds good. Oh, he's a generational talent, bro.
I mean his uncle was a generational talent. The one
at Tennessee, Cam Newton was generational. We never said we
didn't oh oh man Cam, Oh he played Alabama or

(09:52):
he played LSU. We didn't make no excuses for Cam.
We didn't make no excuse for Peyton. But now we
want to make excuses cause remember when when Peyton couldn't
beat Florida, we made no excuses. So we're not finna
make no excuses. Now he's gonna have to play better.
In order for Texas to get to where they want

(10:13):
to go, he will have to play better. John, let
me ask you this, do you think with Patricia orchestrating
that offense Jeremiah Smith Ojo didn't. They did a great
job of covering him and you can see the frustration
that it started the bill. They're gonna put three guys
on him. Do you think they should be title favorites again?
To repeat Johnny Ohio State, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I think you're gonna see that the way they're gonna
defend Jeremiah Smith all year. You're gonna get a lot
of that. He's gonna be extremely frustrated. But at the
same time, that should let wide receiver two, wide receiver three,
and even a running back out of that team be
foaming at the mouth for the opportunities they're gonna have
at the backside of some of these plays and some
of these schemes, because as they go on, I think

(10:59):
Ohio State is extremely well coached and Patricia leading that defense.
I think it's exactly what you said. Having a guy
who's been in the NFL for so long being able
to come back and do this at the college level,
should be able to put in some different some different looks,
Like he's sitting there watching film and it's such a
different look from everything that he's accustomed to in the past,

(11:20):
and and just has to be sitting there with a
plethora of ideas of what he can bring to it.
And as long as you have a good experienced group
of people in that room and guys who are all
together communicating it, there really is you can put all
this stuff in in college.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
You just have to have the right guys to be
able to do it.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
So it looks so far after what you've seen today,
and granted it's only week one and we're in a
college football era now where you can lose twice, maybe
even three times and still go on, you know, to
get into the playoff and be a national champion.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
So it's hard to.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Not you don't want to overreact too much after week one,
but Ohio State has a really good team. We'll see
if the QB play can continue to expand throughout the season,
because that's what it really comes down to.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Another thing took when it comes to Jeremiah Smith. They
got to be more They got to be more creative.
They understand the stat line he had last year when
they played against Texas. It wasn't that good. So what
do you do. You're coming with a game plan. You
come with a game plan to move Jeremiah Smith around.
You don't just have him on outside to the left.
You don't just have him on our side to the right.
You put him in motion. You can then susplice forcing
the DBS to get off. There's so many have him

(12:27):
coming out the backfield. It's so many ways to get
him the ball. Now, Yeah, I know, I know, he
has some drops today, but he's the best player on
the field by far, on either team. It doesn't matter.
So there's so many things you can do with him
to make sure you can get him in rhythm and
get him going. There are no excuses, no excuses.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
All I'm saying is this, I don't give it, Damn.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Jeremi Smith got a trench coat, a disguise, a mustache
and a hat. That guy in the disguise and the
mustache and hat, he not beating us. So I don't
give it that what you do with him, you could
put him in the backfield, Butchet you can stack it.
I don't care where you put him. Somebody else beat me.
He not beat me, because you know why. I know

(13:08):
he can beat me. I'm not sure these other guys can.
So I don't care what you do with it. Bot Joe,
you can have back there looking like expect the gadget
with a trench coat and everything. He ain't beat me.
So I'm just saying. I'm just saying, the guy with
the trench coach, coach, he ain't nobody. Don't worry about it.
You cover that nobody, and you help me over the
top of that nobody. So Joe, Miami Hurricane take down

(13:29):
the number six fighting Irish to know the Dame twenty
seven to twenty four. This is the Miami's first win
against his top ten teen since beating Notre Dame in
twenty seventeen. Carson Beck, the guy they paid four million
dollars for, threw.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Two touchdown passes.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
He was twenty or thirty two hundred and five yards,
two touchdowns, clean game nor interceptions. Irish may have found
their quarterback CJ Carr, but Tonight's performance will leave market
Freeman with plenty of other questions to answer. Oh yeah,
car had was nineteen or thirty to twenty one, two touchdowns,
one an exception.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Do you were in control of this game? Oh, Joe.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I thought they were like gonna put it away twenty
four to fourteen, and the next day, you know, you
turn around and the score is twenty four to twenty four.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah. Give the U credit. They're putting the drive together.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Late in the ball game, got a field goal and
then turned it over to the defense, and the defense
did what they're supposed to do. Ojoe, What did you like?
What did you like about what you saw from do you.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Listen you look very good. Obviously I was really I
was really worried about the quarterback position. How was Carson
Beck gonna look? How his is his resurgence away from Georgia?
How's it gonna look in the University of Miami uniform
and keeping us excuse me right, let me not say
us keeping University Miami program where it needs to be
where cam kim Wore left him. They were in good hands.

(14:47):
So now, based on what I saw today, they're still
in good hands. Small summer size weather a little bit.
I thought the game was gonna run away with the
game UNC when it was twenty one seven. But mister
Freeman car and that often found a way to get
themselves back in the game and make it a little
bit more interesting, a little very very interesting game. It

(15:09):
didn't have to be that close. But for some reason,
coaches always have a way of calling a calling a
conservative game to allow the other team to get back
in towards end.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You don't want to do anything reckless. I understand it,
because here's the thing. Think about twenty eight three, Kyle
Shanahan called a game like he'd always been calling it. Now,
people say, why you ain't running the ball? While you
didn't get conservative. You get conservative and lose people like, well,
why you get conservative? You stay aggressive, and you lose
people call your bone head. It's a very fine it's

(15:42):
a very fine line that you have to walk. And
if you do something and you turn the ball over,
I called a game, but I didn't call no turnovers,
So you can't put that on me. You know, somebody
misses the block, somebody misses an assignment or something like
that on your drop pass on third down.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now you're getting off the field.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I've always felt it's easy to play from behind than
it is with the lead, because you throw caution to
the win when you're behind. What do I gotta lose, ojo,
I'm already down. I'm down fourteen points, I'm down seventeen
to twenty one points. I don't have a damn thing
to lose. Everybody's already written me off. So I can
throw caution to the win. I can run a triple reverse,
I can own side kick you, I can do whatever

(16:20):
because there is no expectation at that point in time,
because I'm down by double digit scores. And so I
understand to a certain extent, But I thought Miami tonight
I thought they made plays. I thought that one had
touchdown grab Otio where they got thirty had an interception.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
And that's what you have to have.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
If you're gonna get to where you want to go,
you're gonna have to have guys to make plays on
both sides of the ball. I love what Bange Junior
did at the defensive end. He thought he had it
one time he got the ball away on second down,
Bank say come on, I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna
get you a giin and got them again. But as
a quarterback, you know you can't take a sack of
that situation. You got no timeouts and all your receiver

(16:57):
is are way downfield, so by.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
The time you get them back ted.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Also as a quarterback, he's a young he's a young quarterback.
Very good, two cars, very good. He surprised me. He's
surprised me tonight. You also have to know in that situation,
the deepest ends they got, the ears peering back coming,
ears pinned back, they come, they coming right away. So
you got to do. You got to do your your
your your two tackles, some justice and being able to
maneuver in that pocket right away, understanding that them boys

(17:24):
coming straight up here right away. Other than that Margaus
Freeman and that Not Day team, they're gonna be all right.
They are going to be going to be all right,
University of Miami. Them boys look good, I know, I
know right now outside tonight, even with the ring going on,
good old time. They don't look like the Hurricanes of
the early two thousands. But they look they got that

(17:46):
level of talent, yeah exactly, But but they look good.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
But they look good.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
They look good.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, ain't know. Andre Johnson's running around there.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
You know, Glynton Porterson, No Frank Gordon Willows bahee, no shocking.
You know who else o that team? When you look
at that antrail road Ed Reid, uh uh Taylor, Sean Taylor,
you know, William Bryant, and you do those two linebackers,
Billma and so so.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
But I but I liked what I saw.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Miami hair head coach Mario Cristobus said on King's win,
Come on, look around, I played in this ribbery. Look
at the way hard rockets rocket Miami Hurricane football, and
uh he played. Ay, They're right, I mean they they
they were, they were rocking, and you know they had
a lot of their their former stars, their former great
players there. That's always great to see. That's when I

(18:39):
like that tradition that a lot of these teams have
where they're great players, where they're great players, they're former
players come back, especially if they're able to. Uh you
see home coming week when guys have by weeks, you
see them standing on the sideline of Ohio State. You
see them standing on the sideline in Michigan and Alabama
and all that stuff. It was always great to see that.
I remember when I, you know, when I was at
Savannah State and the guy as we come back, it

(19:01):
made me feel good. I really never got an opportunity
to get back on Yo because you know, we during
our by week. I think I went to one homecoming,
but for the most part I didn't, you know, it
wasn't homecoming or playing an away game. But it's always
great to see it. And as you said, Ojoe, Miami
Hurricane football looked good. Carson blake Beck played really well.

(19:22):
Twenty thirty two or five two touchdowns, clean game, it
didn't turn it over. But there's still a lot of
football to go. I don't know if it's Clemson on
that schedule. Florida State. That's the acc So let me
let me tell you something.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
It's been a very long time. Chat, everybody in chat,
it's been a very long time since we got two
really good teams with a UM and Florida State meeting up.
Now that's gonna be not that is going to be
a goddamn game. Well with Florida State. Put on film
yesterday and don't put on film tonight. Man stopped playing man.

(19:59):
And obviously this you're only gonna get better as the
season goes on, especially from an offensive standpoint. Bow it
starts a little slower, the little bit that they're a
little behind the eight ball as opposed to defense to again,
who all they have to do is just read and
react once they get themselves into a rhythm.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Please cee J.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Daniels didn't catch the touchdown past last season at LSU,
but he scored his first touchdown since twenty twenty three
with a one handed grab in the ring.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
And you know, I thought the bomb security was fairly well.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I mean, considering that the inclement weather, it seemed like
the turf gave a little bit, you know, you below
sea level. So once things get saturated, the turf is
going to give if I'm not mistaken on you. I
think they had a black college football. I think Howard
played somebody that in that same stadium.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yea today say.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Somebody Howard played the illustrious, the one and the only.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Didn't y'all get beat?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
You?

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Of all time? They played FAMU, which.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Did y'all get beat?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Huh?

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Didn't y'all get beat?

Speaker 5 (20:53):
It was ten and nine?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Whoa?

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Whoa? It was ten and nine?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
So all I need to know who had ten? Who?
Who had ten?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Howard?

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Oh so who had the nine?

Speaker 5 (21:09):
The greatest hbub all time? Family?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
So he lost?

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Can I tell you something?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Can I say?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yes, you could tell me something?

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Florida and then March one hundred. They weren't halftime show,
so technically we want.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I want to see I want to see them go
the human juke box. Southern Yeah bad.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
See. I can't even say nothing bad because I love Southern.
I can't even say nothing bad.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I can't turn it. They showed out for us at
the super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
They did, They showed out for us.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Did I love something?

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Especially what they did for down in New Orleans? I
love you to death, but you know my allegiance, my life.
If I cut myself right now, I bleed orange and green.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
You believe you bleed orange and brown Oregon State Beavers.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
No, no, no, no, no, no, I bleed.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
I bleed orange Oregon State.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
You have to understand remember how bad I was in
high school? Coming out of high school?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
No see up in to see up into Google.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I was supposed to be at FAM you. I was
supposed to be at fam you. I'm telling you. Listen,
hey on, let me tell you something real quick a chat.
Let me give you a small example. Right when I
was in high school, I wanted to be like a
receiver that played for Miami Edison High School. Y'all could
Google list Google list. I looked up to these boys.
His name was Jack wait Noneley, somebody. I don't know

(22:29):
if I have anybody in the chat that's from Miami.
You might remember Jack wait Nunley went to Miami Edison,
played receiver for my mistake. I think he might have
worn number three.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
He went to FAM you.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Me as a high me coming out of high school.
Oh shoot, I want to be like Jack wait Nunley. Well,
I want to go to FAM you. So that was
part of my love for family right there, outside of
my grandma and my mama always having me at the
Classic every year as a little kid. I went to
the Florida Classic Unkst. In nineteen eighty four, my mom
and my grandma went to Cookman. They went to cook Mean,

(23:02):
but I just that orange degree where they came out there. Hey,
they were margin Unc. I was like, oh, I got
to go there.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Man, you went to the Beavers.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Well, Unc, I had to. I had to go to
the only place I can get in. I had to
go to the only place that would accept me. I
had the place that was willing to give me a
one for one with no eligibility left. Thank you, hey,
thank you to Dennis Rickson who remembered me from the
little Camps when it was with the Hurricanes. That's that's
why he gave me a shot.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Well, you could have after you, after you went to Samo,
you could have went to fam you.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
After you went to Samo, you could have went back
to fam you.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
I was, I was already on the I was already
on the West coast. I ain't want to navigate and
come all the way back here because I had to
get out of Florida, you know, to really get to
my destiny exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
That's why it worked out where you wasn't supposed to
go to FAM.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
You still in Miami and you going to FAMD you.
But listen, funny thing about it is when I get
some time. Right now, I got like two undred seventy
three jobs. Yes, the football season ends, I'm enrolling myself
back in school at FAM you to finish, to finish
everything and get my degree I got. I ain't even

(24:14):
gotten a degree yet. I just got a whole bunch
of jobs with no degree. So I'm looking to get
my masters.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Well how close are you to getting your degree?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Hey, uncle boy, listen, don't let me tell you that.
Don't don't let me lie have mercy?

Speaker 4 (24:27):
So you father?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
So in other words, you spent two a couple of
years in college and you father away from getting a degree.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Then you would when you win.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
But hey, hey, listen, God is good.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Won't you go take online classes?

Speaker 5 (24:39):
No, I'm going to school now.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
May your big rough dances ain't gonna be sitting up
in the classroom.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Who not FAM you tallahassee right down the street.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
I know what FAM you is.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
But I'm saying, but listen, I would have the time
to go to class and get that HBCU experience because
once football season ends, job i'm doing it comes down
to a to halt a little bit, and I got
a little bit room to maneuver. So I want that experience.
And then also not only am I gonna go enroll
and go back to school, I'm also enjoying the band
because you know how much another band you know, I

(25:10):
play saxophone, I could play drum by play tuba and
then Cholby Chipman, Chovy Chipman? Who's the band the band director?
That fam you ready? And I can? I can? I
can probably probably see if I can, I can try
and be the drum major or something.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oy.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, I'm listening. I'm taking my second half. This is
my second half of life. I got to do something
with I got a small window opportunity. Ain't no telling
when I'm gone, Ain't no telling. I'm on the other
side of the mountain. Once you hit your fift once
you're over your fifties, you're on the other side of
the mountain. So I'm going downhill now. So I'm trying
to get everything out the way and check everything off
my bucket list.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
It all depends on how much you did coming up
on the other side of the mountain way, but it
will determine how how long it's gonna take you to
get down on the other side of the bout.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
That's a good question. I don't mean. I don't mean
to be what's the word I'm looking for. I don't
mean to sound ignorant. Yeah, but I've been out of
school so long. Yes, Hell, do I find out how
many more credits I need for one to get a
diploma to graduate?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Well, do you have to you have to get your
your your.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Thing from Oregon State transcripts? Yes, get your transcripts.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
They still got all that.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, hell yeah, they still got it.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Okay, okay, you know when let's hope you let's hope
you got some credits. I know I got something.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I don't know, yo, because I think you went. I
think you made it in eligibility you weren't going, I think.
I don't think. I don't think he was trying to
I don't think he was trying to get no degree.
I think he was just trying to stay eligible.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Hey, that's it, that's it. I probably probably was. I
probably wasn't.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
The funny thing about it is I'm one of the smartest,
sharpest pupils in the classroom. I just had a problem
not wanting to go to class.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah. I think the thing is, do you have a
problem now, o yo?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Is that you being your age and you your mind
turning your mind off about those jobs that you got, right,
you know what I'm saying. So now because you got
to focus. I mean, I don't know, like you said,
you want to go to class, to sit in that
classroom and you sitting there. Cause I remember when I
went back, o your I was in twenty I was
twenty two, and I'm sitting in the classroom and I'm like,

(27:16):
I got more money than everybody in here. Yeah, more
money than the teacher.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
M h.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I said, Man, I gotta get up out of here.
I say, ain't no way, There's no way, o yo.
I could have waited. Yeah, And I'm always impressed by
guys that do it that wait three four, five years
and then go back to school right now. If you're
gonna do it online away, okay, that's fine. But to
go sit in those classrooms.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
See, I couldn't do you see why you can't do it?
You understand why you can't do it? You had that experience.
You've been to AC I.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Did I have to be.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
I'm always wanted. My dream was to go to Florida
and m That was I never I never got to
relive that, you know. So I have the cars. I
was there. I did the best I could with them.
But now I have the opportunity, you know it, I
can finish off that childhood dreaming. No'm not how old
I am. You got to understand. But going to class,
I think on I mean going to class, actually going
to school. If I'm not mistaken, A class ain't number

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that hour long I sit here.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
It it all depends. I mean, it all depends. We
were on the quarter system on Joe, so you're right,
we only went to a class for like fifty minutes,
but it was five days a week. If you're on
the semester system, you might only have to go to
class once or twice a week. So it all depends.
And then you know, you might have class, you might
have labs. I mean it's been thirty plus years. I
mean I graduated in ninety one, so it's so low.

(28:30):
I couldn't even I couldn't even tell you. I just
know how my attention span is is that to be
able to turn Yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Lab bit, I say bad Hey.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
In meetings, men, meetings don't get along men and meetings
don't get along.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Man.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
That's that's that's the difference. The difference with me. You
have to understand unk. I can sit there and you'll
be like, man, what you doing. I could sit there
and play Madden for nine hours straight and once not move,
not move. I completely pee for eight nine hours straight.
I can extream, meaning for seven six hours straight without moving.
So imagine me going to school and being excited because
it's an experience I never got to do before.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
What about the class? What about the curriculum? Are you
gonna be excited about every class that you take? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Absolutely, because I understand what the end goal is. In
order to get to the end goal, I got to
put the work in. I got to put the Day't
finna just hand me no damn diploma. I'm trying to
walk cross the I'm trying to walk across the stage
throwing them fangs.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
What you're talking about, Yeah, that's the best part about it,
to walk across the stage and have your family scream
your name and everything.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Family.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Man, it ain't by y'all live. Is my family? Ma
mama gone, my grandma gone.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
But I'm saying you got chance, you got the kids.
I mean, the kids gonna be there.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, ain't gonna be okay, listen, gonna be the Nightcap family,
gonna be you and ass and Joy and everybody. Okay, Okay,
I don't go up all my kids.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
You know, let me know how many of your graduating
class I will come with they get the Johnson so
I could be a little lady.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Listen, I'm gonna come.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
You know how you know how they do the new graduation.
I'm damn hey, shoot man, my daughter's done graduated. Man.
My daughter then graduated from Praivy and m man and
I ain't graduated yet. How they even beat me my
oldest daughter and graduated my son and graduated from Arizona State.
I'm the one with my kid's doing better than me.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, but that's what you want. You want your kids
to do better than you.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
That's the whole purpose of why you did what you did,
so they wouldn't have to go through, so they wouldn't
have the struggle. Now, Look, I don't want I don't
I didn't want to absorb all my kids from struggles
because sometimes people I don't want but no, no, no, no,
you want your kids to struggle somewhat because you want
them to understand life is not a bed of roses.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
So you want some struggle, but you.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Don't want them to have to go through what you
went through, where basically your entire life was a struggle.
But some struggle for a kid, bill's bill callouses and
help help them navigate this thing called life, because at.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Some point in time, there will be a struggle.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yes, there will be some hardship, there will be some adversity,
and you don't want them to have such a smooth
ride that they can't they don't know how to handle
or navigate that that that that obstacle, yeah, or that
roadblock that's been placed in front of them. But yeah,
you want your kids that you did. You did, You
did what you had to do to make sure you

(31:26):
put your kids in a better situation than what you
came up with.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
This is a funny thing about it, and one thing
I won't do up here and get up, get up
a pan like the reason for my kids' success and
the reason they're doing so well in life at their
age now at they big age right now is because
of me, because oh it's not, Oh uncle, it's not
those I have kids from. Yeah, a hell of a
job and they still doing a hell of a job.
That's why. That's why I can't win. And this goes

(31:52):
for everyone and they they'll probably see this, they probably
not reading this chat. But when I win this powerball, right,
I'm not even playing. I'm finna win the powerball, right,
you can.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Win that one point one billion?

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'm finna spit it in three halves. Have
going to those I have kids from for for a job? Well,
motherfucking done. Okay, have going to Nightcap because we're gonna
do some wild stuff. Ain't never been knowsto. Look how
does Skott dive?

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I'm good. I'm gonna let you do that. I'm gonna
be on the ground.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Feeling and the other half going to the nightcap. Followers
see the subscribers, So one point eight, whatever it is,
we're gonna break down a huge portion for all of
them for always supporting.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Right, That's how I.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Know God gonna blessed, because you know, I'm gonna do
what I'm supposed to do with the money. I'm gonna
do good. Get him back.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Well, we gotta get we gotta get you gotta give
a percent to the church. We gotta find some churches
that's doing the right thing, that's helping people in the community.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Okay, got you gotta tithe. Okay, Well, we're gonna start
with new birth. We're gonna start with new birth, baptist a.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
New birth.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Remember I told you I grew up in new Birth. Holdo,
you talk about new birth in it and by a
new birth in over Locker. Oh okay, fifth a reverend
Reverend Victor Curry. Okay, yeah, come on now talk to me.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I thought you talked about new birth.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
About that, yes, yes, in Atlanta, and yeah they got
a congregation. I think they got a congregation about twenty thousand.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
What a what? Yeah about twenty thousand.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I think it's about that big a church that anybody
go anybody who who who go to new Birth?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
In this chat?

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Hold on a church with twenty thousand people?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Oh yeah, it's like a college.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Stadium, I mean a small college stadium.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I think I think Pastor Jamal Bryant is the pastor.
Now oh okay, yeah, he took he took him for
Bishop Eddie Long who passed away. I think he had
cancers some years ago. I think Jamal Bryant is the
is the head pastor now, if I'm not mistaken, I
think chat don't don't quote me, but I think he
is the pastor at new.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Birth, A twenty thousand congregatings.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what do you call him? Kreflo Dollar.
I think he's a first Christian something. Joe Oldstein, I
mean yeah, they got a lot of the I mean
they have two services, oh Joe, Yeah, they what they
called mega churches Joe old Stein in Atlanta too, in Houston, Okay, yeah, yeah,
but these mega churches yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not the

(34:28):
churches that you and I grew up that we.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Were hoping to have one hundred people in there or
something like that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
And you know, Fourth Sunday or Pastor's anniversary, church anniversary
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
You might get an overflow crowd.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
But yeah, man, these churches now, oh yo, day, it's
you know, look, you know, I read my Bible, I
read these literatures, I get these these little pamphlets. Man,
I just I just don't believe in the prosperity aspect
of it.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I don't don't.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I don't believe in church members suffering while the pastors
living great. That's that's that. I don't believe in that prosperity.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I don't. I understand you tied. You give what you can.
But when you.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Start telling me I must do this, just just count
me how much gonna go in? I do what I
might not necessarily tie to the church every month, but
I give. I do this charity, that charity I make
sure I do. I do what I can, what I
feel out the goodness of my heart. I just don't
tell people about it because I don't think that's something
you should advertise. But but I'm proud of you. I

(35:29):
hope you do go back in the The Life Church
in Oklahoma has eighty five thousand members. Man come on,
come on, weekly attendance, weekly attendance. So so how many
how many?

Speaker 4 (35:44):
How many of.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Eighty five thousand weekly weekly attendees? Because some churches, some
churches you have two church, two services on Sunday, and
then you might have another service or a couple of
services during the week.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
So that's where go ahead.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
How do you get that many people? Eighty five thousand
thousand people. That's more people that that that pay course stadium.
The Bengals is fitting in the stadium. What are we
talking about?

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I mean, hey, you you're talking about the Bible. Bell
oh jo.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know, you know in the South, people believe in
that Bible. They look that's why they look down on
certain certain aspects of sexuality and they frowned upon that.
But you know, look, we're not We don't need to
get into that. But hey, uh uh Joelo State has
forty five thousand members uh weekly weekly attendees. Kreflow dollar.

(36:43):
He has a big what's his church name, faith Christ
Christ something. Put kreflow dollar type that in there.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Hey, one thing about it. I love the word I love.
I love you.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
R E. F Floy You heard me fifteenth You.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Heard me I say I love some of the some
of these churches, some of the things I'm hearing about them. Yeah, congregations.
But I go I go to church for two things.
I go to church for two things. I go to
hear that word. Yes, they got to hear the choir.
And I don't I don't want I want that old
traditional good gospel, that old Hey man, listen, what a

(37:25):
friend we have in Jesus that that that old hit me.
His eye is on the sparrow. I need that old
school traditional gospel like I'm missing James Cleveland, like.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
That kind of y choir. Joy. Now now we're talking
Shirley Caesar, come on now.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Not hey, hey, I'm gonna take you back real quick.
The can spirituals. Yeah, man, stop playing. That's the kind
of gospel I'm looking for now. I don't know if
I can find that in the kind of churches we
have today.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, I mean that that that was. That was.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
That's all I want to do, is when they sing
before the prayer and after the prayer, when they start singing. Well,
a lady that would come to our church, she wasn't
a member her now I never forget her name, was
Miss Margie Bird Man.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
That lady could sing.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, hey, Chad, if you from Glennville, reesvillea from the
surrounding county, class that you know who Miss Margie bird was. Lord,
that woman had a boys, yeah boy, hey, nothing like
you see that woman walk in. It didn't fail Miss
Margie ms you want to do a solo nord that
I want to get up there.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Lord, Hey, listen, I had you got listen.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Ms mall, get on that plana.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Uh who hey, I had. I had the opportunity, younk
obviously growing up with with being able to see I'm
miss Mosey Burke's I don't know who you know.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I don't know who that is.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Listen, MISSI be mas Choir. She's led many many of
of Oh but you got me about to tear up.
God damn it. Hold on, let me get some tissues.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Ship boy.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Those those are the days man, Look, those were the days, Chat.
I remember those days, being a little boy on my feet,
couldn't even touch the floor, and just sitting there and
and and and you know the old man prayer they
have it on them or them real socks with those
Stacy Adams.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Shine to the guild. Uh mmmmm. We missed those days.
I miss him.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Hey, yeah, hey boy, you got we can talk about
them old day boy. You got me tearing up.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Wight got leave bro.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Over the day.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I had the opportunity. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Chat, excuse
me for that. I had the opportunity of seeing Mosy
Birds who led the Mississippi mass Choir many of the times,
and in Chat you might you might know the song,
and you definitely gonna know the song. One of favors
this morning when I rose this morning, when I roll,

(40:01):
I ain't had no doubt. Man, chat, if you don't
know what.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
We're gonna find, we got to find, you know what, Joe,
we have to find a gospel concert. We'll have to
stop up in there. Come on, now, come on now,
because you know I have you. I have you a
couple of suits that I had made. You know what
I'm saying on your I ain't gonna be able to
use them in twenty twenty five. But you know I
you know what I'm saying, but you don't.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
I got them. It's sos. They why you know what
I'm saying? They why leg o Joe?

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah sharp now that's sharp, man, Yeah, that's gonna be
sharp man.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Peak La Pails, Yeah bad, look at her so clean?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Flylight on me. I cut his throat.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Oh man, I like it. I like it, man. I
just matter of fact. And I just every time I
talk about gospel, I hear something about gospel. We get
to talk about the church. You tell me anything. When
you come to dogs or animals, I get I get
to get me emotional. For no reason at all, man,
I red something earlier today. I that God damn Keiki

(40:59):
whatt mm hmm Christ, I've retweetd like I didn't tweat
that much to day. So if it's still on the
timeline right now, and she was singing, and I just
put to go at the top of it and I
listened to it. Man, that lady, ye man something special.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
She got a boys, huh, and she got a voice.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Boy, she's so ranky. She she she was in that,
she was playing. She was in that playing like this
is what I do.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Let's transition back to Miami and Hurricanes twenty twenty five schedule.
Oh show they beating no to day in twenty seven
twenty four. Next week they're at home against Bethune Cookman.
Then then they're at home against South Florida. Then they're
at home against Florida. Then October fourth, they're on the
road against Florida State, home against Louisville, home against Stanford

(41:48):
at SMU, home against Syracuse, home against n C State,
on the road against Virginia Tech, on the road against Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, just say something? Is
that neutral site?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
What game GAMEFSU last right.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
No, no, no, no, FSU is October fourth.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Hey, they got a good chance to run the table.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
But you need to got to answer. I don't see
it either. Oh yeah, they got they got a chance.
You know, they got South Florida, Florida, Florida State. Most
of the Florida State game ain't gonna be easy now.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Oh no, not not based on what I saw yesterday,
especially when that Florida at Florida.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
State defense Carolina game Cocks beat votech twenty four to eleven.
The game Cos opened the season with a win over
his coach, Shane Beamers alma matera his dad coached there
for almost thirty thirty years. Frank is Frank Beamer, right
and not his dad name right. Carolina looked good. Carolina

(42:50):
looked really good. That big receiver they got Nick h
what's his name? Hold on, man, they got a receiver.
Oh show like six', four about two. Thirty he could Fly,
Carolina South. Carolina, yeah, man he read he run ten
ten hundred meters twenty twenty in the two hundred. Meters,

(43:12):
yeah oh, man he looked. Good he caught a, bomb
caught a. Bomb oh here it is right.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Here BUT i Like CAROLINA i like the way they
got out the. FIELD i like them.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Uniforms the Quarterback Lord, Sellers, Sellers, yeah, yeah, yeah he.
Played he played well, today and he has that. Ability
he's a true dual. Threat he has a nice lively arm,
obviously can run, out can get, out get out of
the pocket and make. PLAYS i, THOUGHT i thought they
did a great job of And Mike shuler's calling the

(43:43):
Play Mike shelter call plays in THE, nfl and So
sellers was twelve of nineteen two oh, nine one, touchdown clean.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Game interception and no.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Interceptions they had thirty seven carriages for a buck nineteen one.
Touchdown but the defense defense played. Well carolina defense game
played very very. Well safety in three field. Goals you
could live with. That you could live with. That BUT
i like. THOSE i like. THOSE i like those. Uniforms

(44:13):
carolina got n Uniform yeah you like?

Speaker 5 (44:15):
That you LIKE i like?

Speaker 4 (44:16):
That all? BLACK i like that all? Black all? Right
is all?

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Right you're like you Like Virginia tech all? Orange?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
No, yeah maybe they Had mike vic out there running
around and abould have liked the.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Uh Florida state Quarterback Tommy costellanos Mocks alabama with merch
after opening upset prior to THE fsu, Game costallana stated
they don't Have Nick saban to save.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
THEM i just don't see them stopping.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Me Cost lona not only backed up by Beating bama
thirty one, seventeen but now it's profiting. Officer he's selling
on shirts, Website Tanny. Alabama nick can't save. Them what's
the pettiest thing you've ever? Done after backing up your
trash talk on the? Field, Ojo, hey that's that's a funny. Thing,
wait excuse my. Ignorance as a collegiate.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Kid are you allowed to sell merch like that and
profit from it outside of? Nil you can do?

Speaker 4 (45:06):
That, YEAH i guess.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
So oh that's.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
DOPE i like.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
That but wonder the fact That, castalona the fact That
castellanos said that before week, one because Like alabama and
then went out there and backed it up and did. It, man,
please all the alumni and all them students probably bought
all that stuff up, right you?

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Know of, course of course it's only up from. Here,
yeah absolutely that it's only up from. Here all?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Right just keep winning and keep, winning and your pockets
is gonna get fat and. FAT a young. Man oh,
yeah he was nine to fourteen above fifty two sixteen
rushers seventy eight. Yards but he was the quarterback of.
Note his team. Won he played really really. Well he
didn't have stats to blow your. Way the most impressive
stat that the quarterback and half is a. Win w

(45:54):
because at the end of the, day that's what that's
how we, measured that's how we.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Supposed to measure. Quarterback he's won more and he Beat.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Alabama and we know What Florida state has been over
the last couple of.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Years. Uh there are a lot of people that was
calling for their head coaches.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Job.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Uh but but the alumni and and and the uh.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
They.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Stayed the booster they, stayed and the president they. Stayed
true said that we believe in this guy because they
had just went what they didn't they go to THAT i?
Think uh, nah they had, lost they lost their, quarterback
they didn't make the college football player. Quarterback, yeah but
came back and here they are open the season with
a big time. Win they weren't, ranked but they will

(46:34):
be when the rankings come out On. Tuesday. Absolutely, uh
but that's what you have to. Do you have to
go out.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
There he said what he, said and he went out
there and backed it.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Out he backed it, up and he's, Right, uh, coach
saving couldn't save him killing the. Boar you gotta get
on you gotta uh gotta get on. That get in
on the, action. Bro it's time to. Go And April,
NICO i, believe decided to walk away From Tennessee balls
after feeling that he wasn't being paid what he. Deserved
at Timm, See i'm a, leaver an iodal was around
two million, mark but he wanted a bump to approximately

(47:04):
four million and. Increase tennessee was unwilling to. Grant, however AT,
Ucla i'm a leaver took a pay, cut earning only
one point two, million and then when you factor in
the state laws At california fifty, percent he makes six hundred.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Thousand so that here you sla over the.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Seasons On saturday Against utah and they lost forty three
to ten if any with eleven completions on twenty two
pass tips fifty, percent one three hundred and thirty six pass,
yards one, touchdown one.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Interception, hey sometimes you got to be careful On, yeah
sometimes you got to be. Careful, now this is just
not a message for. Him this is message in life in.
General sometimes you in. Situations sometimes you're in situations will
you want more and you think the grass is green
on the other, side when you got stability right there
on your, backyard you got comfortability right there in your.

(47:58):
BACKYARD i, mean you.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
See and no state not to cut you off with.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
You but If i'm not, MISTAKEN i Think tennessee is
a no state income.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Tax come, on tax you.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
You got done. This you got to understand. That then
you're trying to be. Greedy your play on the field
is gonna take care of. Itself if you want more
money in, nil it's gonna you take care of. That
between the lines with your, play they will have no
problem bumping you. Up they let you go for a.
Reason they let you go seek out what you're looking,
for which is more. Elsewhere and then you go somewhere

(48:26):
where you, make.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
You make less and they tax you.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
More, yes and they tax, more and you lost your
first game against you. Talk come, on, man that's a
life lesson in itself. Too Uh so that's a life
lesson in.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Itself so uh maybe a million Dollars so you at,
thirty what is it thirty six percent tax. Rate so
every million dollars you get six hundred and thirty. Thousand
so he could have made one point two. Sixty now
he's making six hundred, Thousand so say some of thousand
on the.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Table that's money in his.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Pocket come, on you, got you, Got you got to do.
Better understand the. Situation you win.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Because california IS i think a thirteen, percent, yeah thirteen
percent state income. Tax so you figured thirty six percent
plus thirteen that's forty nine. Percent then you got fight,
cud and then you got all these other because, Hey, california.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Hit you over your.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Head oh they coming to get their boy In.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
California hit you over your. Head they get there where
they get all that all that they.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Need to use that goddamn, money they expand the goddamn
full five and make it two hundred.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Traffic uh, well if that's the, case they need to
make it to. Eighteen they don't need. It they don't
need expand, nothing they need. It, LOOK i Mean, california
they be taxing and they got what probably the fourth
or fifth LARGEST gdp of anywhere in the. World and
we talk about the, state we're a're talking about The United.
States we talked about the state within The United. States

(49:58):
that's how much money that They it's just that you
can't take care of every single. Person, yeah you, know
and and and And cali try. To they try to
take care of every single. PERSON i think they waste
a lot of. Money who, MAN i thought we're gonna
have a good game because it started out good FOR.

(50:20):
Ufc they got the ball go right down the. FIELD i, Said,
OKAY i, said Coach Coach beellacheck might.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Have got him a. Stinker but come to find, out
all he. Did they just pooped on the.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Field that's the only stink out, there because, boy they
stunk it up to.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Night uh forty eight the.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Fourteen the Horned frogs travel on the, road go down
To Chapel. Hill Wo Chapel. Bill they need to pray
for it because they're gonna go get real. Luck they're
gonna get, it go get ug before it get, better
Oh jo AND. Lt but forty eight to, FOURTEEN tcu
really had their way with. Them over five hundred yards
of total. Offense they did a great. Job they threw

(50:56):
the ball, well they ran the ball exceptionally. Well In
north allowed to LOOK i understand it's Coach belichick's first year,
there but you see the talent the. Discrepancy, Now i'm
not SAYING tcu is Is Ohio.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
State i'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
That i'm not saying THE lusu are one of those,
programs but they have more talent than The Tar. HEELS
lg watch this. GAME i know you had a vested
interest in this. Game you're a great alum OF. Tcu
what did you like about what you saw from your ball?

Speaker 6 (51:24):
Club, well to your, point your, point, uncle we have
a veteran, team. Man you, know we have guys that
have played a lot of. Football and you, know when
you have a veteran, team guys that have you, know
been in some tough, games have weathered the. Storm you're
supposed to win a game like this versus a team

(51:44):
you know IN unc who has brought in a lot of.
Transfers it's a lot of. Turnover they still don't know
what they have. Yet So i'm just keeping it. Honest
we were supposed to win this. Game but WHAT i
like from my, team, like typically we can throw the
ball all over the, yard but lately we have had a.
Trouble we will had a little trouble running the football

(52:04):
to close out. Games and you guys, know as AN,
rb we gotta be able to run the. Ball so
that's WHAT i love the most tonight is what we
had to run the ball in the second. Half, man we,
Dominated we controlled a lot of. Scrimmers we had like
three or four running backs in there running the, football
AND i think that.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Bowls well for.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Us in The big, twelve.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
You took your, ball the first player to, drive the
first player the open of the, drive and in the
second half and you go seventy five, yards the guy
go seventy five yards. Untouched so it was a harborager
of things to. Come Oh, joe you watch this ball.
Game there was a lot of fan. Fair everybody's talking
about Coach. Belichick we know what he's accomplished at THE nfl.
Level they started going through all his, accolades the Six

(52:46):
Super bowl, wins the Nine Zuper bowl, appearances the seventeen
to eighteen division, titles and, YadA, YadA. YadA but now
he's coaching. Players AND i think to a certain, point
all coaches have, patients BUT i think you have to
show even more patients.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Now even though some of these guys are getting.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Paid it's not like AN nfl roster where every single
guy is getting played.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Paid but watching this, game On, joe what did You
is there?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Anything is there anything you can take positive from what
you saw From North?

Speaker 5 (53:14):
CAROLINA i, mean the only THING i could take positive
From North carolina is the head, Coach Bill. Belichick that's
the only positive THING i can. Take you're playing THE tcu, team,
obviously you can see the discrepancy and the level of
talent at each. Position and one thing That Bill belichick
always harped, on he always harped on is. Turnovers you
can't turn the ball. Over you can't make. Mistakes it's one.
Thing do your job and everything everything else will take

(53:36):
care of. Itself, Now i'm not Sure North carolina's, schedule
And i'm not sure the team they have coming, forward
but when it comes to a team that's evenly, matched you,
know from skill from from from skill set to skill,
set whether it be defensive bill, offensively we would get
to see a better outcome From, billy from From bill
and that coaching. Staff coaching can only do so. Much huh,

(53:57):
yeah lt coaches can only do so. Much, well you
have to go out there and, execute and it's a team,
game but it's eleven individuals in the, field and you
got to win your. Job you got to win your individual,
battle and then the outcome of team comes into. Play
they were they were. There they weren't out, coach but
they were outclassed because at the level of talent THAT
tcu had.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Tonight, OBVIOUSLY i think they looked.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
AHEAD i think they Looked, YEAH i was gonna, SAY
i think they looked a little. Better when the backup
quarterback came, In, max they.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Looked a little bit. Better he threw the ball a
little bit. Better they had a little bit better rhythm
to their.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
Offense and if you guys, know That's Brad johnson's, croll
so you know he has the pedigree in order to
play the.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Position so maybe they make that.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
Turn to the to this young young man who is
obviously has played a lot of. Football he's been A
l S, U TEXAS, a AND m so he's played a
lot of.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
FOOD i agree every. Question.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
Uh and of, course would they really make a move
already from the starting quarterback after after just one, game
or do they give him another? Chance will they make
Will bill make a move that?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Fast the way he.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Looked yeah he. Did he. Did he really look.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Good and the question is how close was the quarterback?
Battle because it, SAID i, mean they said he won the.
Battle so how close was? It whether the runaway or
whether the last second? Decision BUT i agree with, You,
lt because this young man is played at the.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Top he's a starting quarterback in THE.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Sec he was starting quarterback AT, lsu he was a
starting quarterback at At TEXAS a AND m and for,
Him i'm surprised that he didn't win the job. OUTRIGHT
i think we need to give Mister lopez a little.
Credit but he didn't look good. Tonight now let's, okay
it's one. Game one game is not gonna, determine but
it's not Gonna you can't have a, lot Oh, jo
you only got ten eleven. GAMES i can't wait till

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five games in to, say, Okay i'm.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Gonna pull the. Plug. Now it's a.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Lot you get a you get a lot quicker hook
in college than you do in THE nfl because you
have seventeen weeks as opposed to like eleven.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Weeks and but, look they don't they're not good.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
To make a lost short, guys and reaching about over
if they have a short leash or long, leash they're not.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Good L.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
T you mentioned it when you get to seventy, trains
you got seventy new guys and you got thirty.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Freshmen come, on, man what what do we? Expect what
do we?

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Expect this is playing THE, acc you playing the A.
C you see Our miami look, yes.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yes or you got you Got clemson and you Got
clemson in that division and that and that excuse me
in that. Conference So North carolina the Tar heels is
gonna have to be on their best. Behavior. Now i'm not,
saying Look Wake. Forest we'll see What wake Far as
has IN Nc. State and there are a couple of
other teams The, dukes but right Now carolina needs a.

(56:45):
LOT i MEAN i was WHAT i was most disappointed
in was their, defense because that's where Coach, belichick that's
where his, Son Steve, belichick they cut their. Teeth they're
normally hey when you come. HOME i already knew what
my grandfather had was supposed to. Go so when he
took it off and handed to Me, OJO i wouldn't
put it right on the hat right BECAUSE i know
where it was supposed to be the hard heels was

(57:07):
supposed to be able to hang the hat on What ojo,
Defense you got the greatest defensive mind and his son hold,
on hold on.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Lt, listen you got you got the greatest defensive. Mind
right when with The patriots he was the greatest defensive.
Mind but he also had the tools out there on
the field to be able to exq everything everything he
brought to his. Mind, yes but now you're at the collegiate,
level you might.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Have you horse ha to.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
Run listen that they.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
Have you got to have the talent. There you have
to have the. Talent you got. To you, can't you just.
Can't you can't have a beautiful mind with a ten cent, finish, right.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Stop you, Real.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Ojo you guys remember we used to be in the
game and some lot of defense watched the run watch the. Past,
yeah but you can't stop either one of. Them so
it don't matter what we, do, right are you? Right
we're gonna do one to the, other but you can't
stop either. One that was that was the tar heels.
Tonight they couldn't stop. Anything guy had one carry twenty
eight yards eleven carries a buck thirteen with a seventy

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five yard, touchdown seven carries for twenty eight, YARD i
mean thirty five for two fifty.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Eight i'm like bro are y'all.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
Talking about the.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Receiver the receiver.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Had what ten?

Speaker 7 (58:23):
Catches, yes, sir, yes. Sir they didn't stop nothing. Nothing
so to your, point like they got a, hang they
had on.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Something that's That's Bill belichick's mo.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
O you, know to be able to take something, away
and tonight they didn't have the horse to be able
to take.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Anything, yeah and and and in horse, racing look a
good friend of, Mine Bob, baffort he trained Two Triple
crome Winners American Fair roe is. Justified but at the
end of the, day, yeah that has plays a. Role
but he had the fail breads to. Run so whether
You're Western, sol D Wayne, lucas, Mcgayheet Bob, baffett it
does not. Matter if you do not have horses to,

(59:04):
run you cannot win significant.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Races in.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Football if, look AND i don't take anything away from
and you read all these great, coaches but you got
to have. Players at the end of the, day it
is the gyms and The. Joel's it ain't no excellent
nose because you can have all the, minds you won't.
To it's the gyms and the joels that's gonna determine
how good those.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Excellent nose actually are every. Time but.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Not a great start to Coach belichick's college career college coaching.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Career they lose at home forty eight to.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Fourteen and outside of that open and drive that, game
what really wasn't close and they took a. Knee they
took a knee a goal to gold, situation or they
could have had a family a party style, nuggets a
fifty piece on.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Them they're gonna be, alright, though Lt they're gonna be.
Alright they gonna be all.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
RIGHT i don't know if it's gonna be alright this. Year.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Yeah, no they're gonna have some they're gonna have some
ups and, downs but they're gonna. Compete they're gonna. Compete
bill is the type of coach that even if you're,
losing even even with losses like, tonight even with loss
of like, tonight that's the type of coach you still
want to do everything you can for to only not
only appease, him but to prove the doubt is. Wrong

(01:00:20):
all those that are gonna be talking, track you, know
what the. Media you know what the media gonna. Do
they they gonna they're gonna riphim the. Shreds they was
waiting for an opportunity like, this waiting to see what
the day he looks. Like and then you go out
there and lose. That the, players the players go they gonna.
Stepup they're gonna step. Up they're not gonna fold

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
H