August 28, 2025 • 53 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are back on Nightcap breaking down the hottest NFL headlines! Lions DB Kerby Joseph joins the show and calls out the Chicago Bears saying he wants ALL the SMOKE with former OC Ben Johnson! Plus, Seattle Seahawks DE Leonard Williams joins to talk about the upcoming season.
0:00 - Kerby Joseph joins the show
21:10 - Leonard Williams joins the show
41:27 - Kenny Pickett traded to the Raiders
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
That.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We got a very special guest joining us right now.
We got all pro all pro safety from the Detroit
Lions led the league in exception last year. Harry Is
Ladies and gentlemen, Kirby Joseph kJ.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What do it do?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
So, y'all, man, I just want to thank you for
having me on here.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
What you got?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, I was saying the same thing. I think of
the same thing. I think of the same thing.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I ain't never I ain't never seen nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm in that color.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That color that would look where I'm sitting. You know
I'm sitting, you know, many many miles away, but that
would have looked like.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Yeah, man, I'm in the gap describing Hey, yeah, yeah,
how you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
How was your How was your off season coming in?
Because look, the last couple of years, you get to
the NFC Championship game, you lose to the divisional round,
So how was your off season?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Then?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
How do you lose the last two seasons, this off
season to get you right where you need.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
To be coming into this season.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
To be honest, I felt like that last season made
me even hunger, you know, just getting a taste of it,
like that I can do it, then I'm going to
like achieve it all. That's just how I am as
a person. You know what I'm saying, I'm never gonna
stop that at nine. Like you know what I said,
I got nine interception. I'm not gonna stop at nine.
I'm always gonna try to pr you know, because I
feel like if you're not getting better, you're getting worse.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Hey, how was how was camp this year? How's the
body holding up? Obviously? Are you going into are you?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Uncle always has a saying if you if you limped
to the season, you're gonna limp out the season. How's
your body holding up? How the camp go, and how
you feeling going?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Man?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Honestly, everything went great. Man, I feel like we had
a great camp. I just felt like I know now,
like you know, this is like year or fourth from me,
so it's like a lot of stuff I don't seen before.
So like that that's saying, that's saying, like, oh the
more years you play like, the more experience you'll get.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Like that's like, that's the truth, you know, cliches.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Look last year, you guys, man, you got off to
this great start. You played pretty well all year, but
these injuries started to mount. You lose a D lineman,
you lose a D tackle, you lose a live backup,
you lose a backup, you lose. You just kept you
losing player after player, and AG did a great job.
And Coach Campbell, your head coach, did a great job
of keeping this team steady, like no matter who we lose, guys, Hey,
(02:39):
this is why we have fifty three man rosters. Hey, guys,
come in. You do your job. That's all I need
you to do is your job. It had to be frustrated.
You're like, what damn bro I mean at some point
in time, we got to run out of defensive players.
We can't lose anybody else.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Yeah, last year that was I've never seen nothing like
that in football.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I never seen I never seen that before. That it was.
I wouldn't say it was frustrating, but it was.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Kind of heartbreaking just seeing my brothers, you know what
I'm saying, like get injured and stuff because Nobody wants
to get injured in this game, you know what I'm saying.
But we love saying this game and you know that's
what we signed up for. You know, injuries are gonna happen.
But like how that happened, Uh yeah, yeah, I never
seen that before. But I felt like I felt like, man,
(03:28):
we just we just knew what we had to do,
you know. I mean, you know, gods go down, you
know what I'm saying, And if it's something like that
that happens, Man, I feel like I don't pride myself
on like just having Like I wouldn't say I but
I feel like us as a team, we don't we
don't I should I say, we don't believe in like
(03:48):
ones and twos.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Going, yeah, yeah, because like I tell I tell the
group all the time, like even everybody else, it's gonna
take all of us to win, you know what I'm saying.
So like, as a team, that's just what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You know what I'm saying. When your brother down, man,
you got to step up to play.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
How different?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Hey, now I'm gonna say obviously with ag being being going,
I'm I'm one of the ones I've always come to
bat for you guys regards to who the person is
calling defensive plays.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
With AG now being with the.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Jets, but the same players are still there. So regardless
of who's calling the plays from your from your perspective
and your point, are you still allowed the freedom to
be able to do what you want to do at
the safety position, being that you're as good as you
are being able to have a little a little freedom to.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Do what.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I feel like I want to say now, I always
had a little freedom, especially when AG was there. Just
you know what I'm saying, learning as I go. You know,
I feel like, yeah, the same the same players are here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
You know what I'm saying. You know, a g I'm missed,
so you know what I'm saying. But you know, he
had to go do what he had to do at
the Jets. You know what I'm saying. I'm wishing them
good luck and all.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
But I feel like I don't feel like the level
of play is gonna go and decline at all. You know,
if anything, I feel like it will increase a lot more.
You know what I'm saying, Because now I feel like
it's just you know, it's a new coaching staff change,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Everybody has to.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Go through that coaching staff change and that building relationships
and the adversity you have to go through throughout the season,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
So I just feel like it's a new turning point,
you know, a new chapter.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Right.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
The thing for me, when I'm thinking, I think about
safety play, you wanted a better Seaton Probably I actually
the best safety in the NFL, you know, along with
Kyle Hamilton. And to be able to get the amount
of picks you get, there's a certain amount of freedom
that you have to have that. It can't be schemed,
it can't be scripted. It's not extit those it's just
you being able to have free will to make decisions
(05:43):
based on your eye, disciplining what you see. So, I
know you have a new coaching staff, and most of
the time you get coaches that come in and they
have I don't want to I think, maybe not ego
for the most part, but I want you to do
things my way and my way only.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
So I was just curious if even with the new
coaching staff, are you.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Still allowed to have free wheel outside of the exit
of those to be able to play.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
I feel like like one thing I noticed about like
a lot of a lot of my teammates on the
on the team is that man, like, we're football players,
you know. I feel like the team does a great
job allowing us to be football players, because you know,
football is not just what you see on paper.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It's not going to be like that in the game.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So you gotta.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Understand stuff happened, so you gotta you know, you gotta
play football though.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You just got to play football out.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
I like that you said that because this is something
that I always struggle with somebody obviously when I was playing.
You go in, they put they put the scheme, the taxes,
this is we're running. They do the exit and nose
it's a straight line and he cuts right. I'm like, dude,
that's not how it happens in real time. You got
people moving, pushing and tugging. So it's kind of different
out there on the field. And most of the time
(06:51):
I would always tell my officer coordinator, give me a
little freedom to do what I do, but I'm gonna
stay within the time of the offense and the same
thing on defense. It's all about reacting in a certain
amount of time. But I'm gonna do everything I can
the way you draw it up. But you got to
give me some freedom. We don't have me out there
playing like a goddamn robot. Yeah, well go ahead, it's
(07:14):
just not in me, bro I got them right, right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
No, My question is is that you got somebody in
your division that you face twice a year, that was
your offensive coordinator for a long period of time, and
you know he's drawing up plays to beat the defensive
training camp. You guys are trying to scheme plays to
stop the offensive training camp. So how how fun, how different,
how difficult do you think it'll be to face Ben Johnson.
(07:39):
We know he's one of the best offensive minds in football,
and he happens to be in your division. You played
them twice a year, and they've loaded up. They went
and got drafted the receiver in the second round, they
drafted a tight end.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
In the first round. They shored up their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They're seemingly in the preseason and I don't don't want
to put too much on the preseason, Kirby, but it
seems to be there flying around defensively, but you know,
their braid is buttered on the offense. They got a
first round draft pick, they got DJ Moore, they got
room with Doomsday. I think they got whether Burton. I
think they took Burton in the second round on Missouri.
They got Loveland, uh and Cole Kmet So they're they're
(08:13):
a really good team. But you know, you you familiar
with him and he's familiar with you.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Hey, I like that you said that because, like you know, Ben,
Ben had to go do what he had to do,
just like a g D. You know, I'm happy for
you know what I'm saying, the opportunity. Yeah, they got
some guys over there, you know what I'm saying. But uh,
Ben know what's up with me?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Like you said, you know what's up with me?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
So I'm never going back down away from competition because honestly,
I feel like that he knows the players, and he
knows kind of the scheme we run and stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I feel like it's more of a challenge, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
So I feel like it's always always a way to
get better, and I feel like that's a big, big
test right there.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, you know what, I would keep out like Dan
Campbell because when he first got it job, that man
talking about knee camps and he was gonna do all this.
So what's what's he really when the cameras are not
there and it's just you guys at practice and you
guys are in the meeting room or you what's Dan
(09:16):
Campbell like?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Honestly, man, I feel like I feel like I feel
like Dan Campbell that's just a great coach.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I feel like he's more of a player's coach because
just because he understands, like what you know, what we
put our body through and what we go through throughout
what I'm saying, Yeah, he was a former player, so
we kind of understand how everything be. I feel like
he does a great job of like taking care of us,
and he shows that he's passionate, you.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Know about a lot of things we do.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Like the reason why he's telling us, uh these things,
he's telling us just because he wants us to win.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Not only him to win, but he wants us to win.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like people, I'm saying, it's
not just him or the team, it's us because we're
doing this as a group. We're a team. You know
what I'm saying, rich and won't go together. So I
feel like he does a great job.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But just shit does that? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
And a lot of the drills we do are a
lot of the practices are the meeting, the temates and
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Man, I just felt like.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Man, every time that man get up, go up on
that podium or whatever he talking about, already go right now,
already no, yeah, already right now. So I just man,
I love coach camera. Man, he does you know what
I'm saying. Everything I like it?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Like what's what's your nutrition?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Like are you are you one of those healthy eaters
you know, eat green stuff all the time?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Like are you that.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna try to eat good,
but like if I ain't got you know, over the
extent to just start myself not eating food, I'm gonna
eat my factor.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
See I like it.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
See so that important My next question. Okay, okay, okay,
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
I want to provide my services. Uh you know, I'm
a meal prep so I could provide.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You with meals.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Monday through Sunday only charge twenty dollars.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
No, yeah, yeah, I'm a meal.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
I'm trying to make sure you get the greatest output
every Sunday or Thursday night or Monday nights, whenever y'all
might play. And you my first client. So I'm not
taking no for answer. I'm not taking no for answer.
I'm telling you so, I'm gonna let the world know. Listen,
I'm on nutrition is from my own and I thank
you for forgiving me the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Okay, bet, it's it's all good.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'll take y'all, I'll take y out.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got I got a new job.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I got a new job.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You guys traded Tim Patrick, Jamison Williams going into It's like, Jamison,
do you think he's ready to take that next step?
Because we've seen him show so the flashes. We know
what Amin Rah, we know what he's gonna do. But
now Jamison, you know, and and at first he was
just that guy that tried to get deep. But now
you can just put the ball, you can hand it
to him and he can go hit his head on
(12:01):
the gold post. You can throw him a smoke screen,
jail break screen, and he can go get the he
can go to the end zone. So what what do
you think? What can we expect to see from from
Jamison this year?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Man, Honestly, I'm so I'm so proud of Gemo.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Man.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Jimo is one of the guys that you you know,
you see out there and he just continues to get patty.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And I feel like this year, I feel like they
ain't seen this Gemo yet. Man, they ain't seen Jamo yet.
And so so I ain't you.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Know what I'm saying, I ain't gon put it all
out though.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But Jamo this year, for sure, he ready, he ready
to rock.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Hey hey, Brian Branchat man man bb.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Man, Oh no, right now, he's probably some of them,
but man, that's man. That's that's none of the guys
on another guy on the team that continues to just
work hard. Bro like bro his his his back said
his back tools or whatever he use to play safety.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yeah. Nice, he may he nice.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I talked about him. I talked about him all last year.
Matter of fact, he got to the point where it
was almost weird. I tweeted about him and you so much,
to the point where it's like I was like I
was stalking.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But I'm listen.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
I appreciate secondary play, dB play so much, even though
I'm receiver. I was giving y'all, y'all boys credit weekend
and week out, just the way y'all played the game
and y'all approached the game.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
So I'm I'm, I'm.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I've always been a huge fan, especially when you you
and and God Damn Brian branch Man. Him being able
to go to safety then sometime having to go to corn,
I'm like, man, what.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
The hell like Damn this Swiss Army.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now he's doing everything.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Man, he's super talented. Man, he's super talented. I feel
like one thing he does the most is like his
instincts crazy. His instinct is crazy. Him and him at safety.
It's kind of the nigga's kind of out the part.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
But when they moved him back to safety, you know,
I said with Zoo, man like the place he made Gods,
you know.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
What I'm saying. I'm still wishing I made them put
it like that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Are your Are you a talker? I mean when you're
on the on the field, are you talking to the
opposing team? Is your defense talkers or you guys just
go play football?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
To be honest, I felt like everybody got their own
little situation going.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
On over Yeah there.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Me personally, I feel like I feel like I own
too much. Say nothing, but somebody pissed me off. Bro,
you're gonna hear me, Bro like I'm and one. I'm
going at you.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Bro, I'm never gonna stop.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Is there a player?
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Is there a player that you really don't like that
y'all always go at it to give you a bad
example perspective, Mike Evans and Marshawn Lottimore, Do you have
anybody like that that you go at it with in
the NFL?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Or not? A couple.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Couple?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
A couple of them too much to be going for
none of that?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Is it personal?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Or it's like really serious, Like I don't really, I don't.
I don't see you like that, Like I.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Really like that?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Who?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Who I want to know?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I'll tell you, I tell you, I ain't, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Tell okay, okay, okay, Because once they find out, they're
gonna be trying to separate.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, once he find out, he gonna try to get
you before you get him.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, now you know you know why I am.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So okay.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Obviously your head coach, and you mentioned a lot of
the players from the defense and the offense is still there.
Although you lost both of your coordinators. The expectations are
still high. You guys won fifteen games last year. The
year before that, you went to the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Bro, it's time.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I mean, you know, you only get you only get
so many body of the Apple curb before the before
the apples gone.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now y'all been taking y'all been taking big bikes.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Hey, we ain't don't stop, and we ain't gonna stop
till we get there though, Like, but I don't never
see myself especially like stopping. I feel like a lot
of the things we went through, I feel like it
was to get us to this moment right now. I
feel like we got a lot of guys healthy, We
got guys back, you know what I'm saying. I feel like,
especially the guys that were on the team last year,
they kind of understand that we gave it even more
(16:19):
than we did the first year, but that still wasn't enough,
you know what I'm saying. So gotta still keep going
because now it's just any minute. My new thing going
on with the game. That could be the change up
the toide of the game, you know what I'm saying.
So just working on the situations and stuff like that,
and then just we got made plays, you know what
I'm saying. I feel like I feel like a lot
of the things that happened on the field or like playmaking,
(16:43):
I feel like it's not only the coaches getting on us,
but it's ourselves because we got we keep ourselves accountable
a lot of the things.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, cause it's like I hard my I be
hard on myself when I don't get an exception for
the game, you know, because I feel like, I look,
I leave my team down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
And even by feel the same way if he didn't
get enough sacks. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
It's just stuff like that, Like you know, I should
be like you know what I'm saying, Let's help each
other and keep each other.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Like on points week sixteen, you got you face a
very familiar opponent. You were in the same division with
this guy, Aaron Rodgers. He's with the Steelers. Now you
have a lot of success against Rogers. You're looking forward
to that matchup.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, yeah, hey, hey that's my favorite quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Though you expected him to throw you a couple of humps, yeah, yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, they ain't gonna stop. Yeah, yeah, ain't gonna stop.
But hey he cooled, Oh he cool for sure. I'm
trying to see. I'm trying to see if he's gonna
sign one of them.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I was about to ask you the same thing, say
you try to get what of the ball? Saying yeah,
why are there Rogers?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, I'm trying to get one of the ball. I'm trying.
I'm trying to at least one of them. I got about.
I'm trying to just get a sign. I'm just trying
to get I'm just trying to get a signed.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They'll played Steelers Week sixteen.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, and y'all, y'all, y'all don't play. I think we
got them on the schedule this year. Yeah. I think
that my first time going against Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You got do you circle games? Do you you look
at do you look at the call? Do you look
at the schedule? Like okay, all right, yeah yeah yeah,
this is my Yeah, okay, I like this.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I like this one. Do you circle game? Week five? Y'all?
Play the Bengals Week five.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Oh for real, I'm going to the game we playing. Okay, Okay,
I see you we five. I'm coming out here. I'm
coming out there.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Yeah, I feel I don't feel like I got like
a whole bunch of games. But I dude, be having
like revenge games. I have like a revenge game or
like somebody ain't playing like the Bengals, you know what
I'm saying, Like, yeah, like that's one of my games
out of circle because you know, I never played them before.
I always like that play different teams and see different people,
to see different players.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You know. Yeah, and you know they got one of
the better offenses.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know the quarterback you mentioned, Joe, they got t
they got a Chase, the Triple Crown winner. They're supposed
to be really really good on that side of the football.
So you guys are really going to have your work
cut out for you.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah. And I see I see a couple of my
dogs out there, Chas Brown and PJ.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
So them my dogs.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
I'm trying to uh, you know, and Jerseys fo see
all them boys. You know, I say, it's always good
to see you. You know what I'm saying. Your teammates
from them, weigh in the back and weigh in the past.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, Kirby Man, best of luck, stay healthy. Thanks for
giving us a few moments of your time tonight. Man,
wishing the Lions the best of luck and uh you
guys win that division and get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Man, come back and join us and have a conversation
with us again.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
For sure, man for shure.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Man, Oh go ahead.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Hey, now I'm saying my meal prep. I'm gonna send
you the directions on how to take the food the mounts.
You know, three it's three meals a day, three meals
a day, So I'm.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Gonna send everything to you. I'm gonna send it to
your d M.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
And uh then I'm gonna mail all the food to
you here.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Real yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Real.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Hey listen, I'm I promise you, no, listen, I'm you
my first client. I'm an NFL nutritionist. I'm going to
make sure people stop getting hurt. Not only are people
gonna stop getting hurt, they're going.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
To be able to put out the best output because
of my meal plan and my meal prep. So boom,
this is what it is.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's what I do.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Look, I got like three hundred jobs and added one. Hey,
come on, support black business. Support black business.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Look look when we you know what I'm saying, get
off the call. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Just hit me.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know what I said, We could do that though.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I got you, I got, I got you twin I got.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
But I do want to thank y'all for having me
out here. I want to thank God also just for
you giving me the opportunity to come out here every
day play football, you know what I'm saying, and just
to get back. So appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Appreciate you with joining of the man. Appreciate that. Now,
take care and stay healthy. Man. We'll talk to you
down the road for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Y'all be good.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh, here's that second guest, Jordiau's two time.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Pro Bowl player uh in his first full season at
the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Here you big litter? Will you little? What's going on? Man?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
How you guys doing?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Can y'all hear me?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
We can hear you just fine? Can you hear up?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yes, sir, I'm on my wife's computer, so I'm trying
to figure out how to change your name on.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It right now what's up?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Haley? No? No, l W was good. I'm good. How
you doing?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
And listen, man, life is good. Man, one ft in
front of the other man. I got my head high
so I can see where I'm going. But before we start,
before we get into football, I just want to know
that you got a nutritionist.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh, I don't have. I do have a Nutritions on
the team that I use.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
And then I also, oh, yeah, well we're not using
We're not using him or her no more, we're not
using her. Listen, I'm a meal prep I'm the NFL Nutritions.
I've been appointed by the NFL for all the players.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
So I'm gonna senior information and I'm gonna be your me.
I'm gonna meal prep your meals for the next seventeen
weeks and for the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
And you my second client.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
So I got is you and Kirby Joseph. And then
I'm I'm in twenty dollars a week. Twenty dollars a week,
that's all.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's all I charge.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I'll be making sure he eat before all the rookies
about I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Literally, you get traded, you go to Seattle and it
seems like in Seattle you found a home. I mean, look,
it's not that you didn't play you didn't play bad,
but it seems like you found a home in Seattle.
Can you tell us what's the biggest difference between Seattle
and New York? And I'm not talking about geographically, but
I'm saying in the defenses, was it something the way
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the coaches, the way you receive the information. Was it
the way they gave the information? Is the defensive scheme?
What was different about the defense?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Man?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Honestly, I agree with you. I feel like I found
a home out here in Seattle. I feel like there's
a combination of things that made it feel different. Though
the fan base was one of the big differences, just
like the way they embrace me, the way they show
up on game day, the way they support our team
and stuff like that. And then also just in terms
of schematics and coaches, I feel like, you know, having
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a d who came from the Cowboys and then coach
Mike McDonald, I feel like they just kind of created
a scheme where they allow me to like play with
freedom and they allow me to be like a playmaker
and use my athleticism and they celebrate me for you know,
just being in the backfield and and sometimes like if
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I'm if I see a play outside of the scheme,
they allow me to like swim a block, Yeah, exactly,
go make a play where you know, a lot of
times throughout my career, I feel like I've was almost
too cultorable at times where you know, I was taken
away from my playmaking ability where I was like trying
to play a block the way the coaches wanted me
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to and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So there's a lot of conversation and stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
It's so funny you just said that.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
We just talked to Kirby Joseph and the one thing
I asked them, obviously they have a new defensive coordinator, right,
And I said, do you still have the freedom to
have free will outside of the scheme that your coach
has where they still allow you to do that?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
And he said yes.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
And the fact that you you started everything out about
your coaches allowing you to have the freedom to be
able to make plays based on your football knowledge and
what your eyes see instead of what it says on
paper is really really important, especially for players like yourself
to be able to reach their maximum potential out there
on Sundays.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
And that's that's really dope. That's really really dope to hear.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I agree, I think it's important.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I mean for me, it just made me feel like
it brought like the excitement of football back from me
a little bit to which made me like, once I
started having fun. Y'all played before, so you know how
it is like when you're out there having fun and
you're able to play free and you know, have free
will and be celebrated for it, it's like the best
out of.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You comes out. And I feel like that's how it
is here. Ask you this.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
When you're at the Giants and then you get traded,
you're like, damn, has anybody ever been traded from the
Giants to the Jams or JEMs to the Giants? I mean,
because it is so different Jet fans, I mean, the
Jets fans and the Giants fans, they're so different.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The city reacts so different than the each team. M hmm.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, it was, even though
we played in the same stadium, the fan base felt different,
The culture felt very different. The Jets were kind of
further out in Jersey. I felt like we were like
a New Jersey team kind of, and then the Giants
being so close to the city made me feel like
I was the actual New York team. But it was
it was very interesting. I mean, luckily I didn't have
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to move during that trade. I was still able to
stay in my house. But it was definitely weird when
like that same week I got traded, I ended up
playing in the stadium, and like, instead of going into
one parking lot, I went to a different parking lot,
and instead of walking down that hall to go to
one locker room, I just went to a different locker room.
So it was very strange. Just yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah, how is the body holding up?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Man?
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Going into camp? I mean actually camp now ending week one?
How's the body holding up?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean amazing, honestly.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I mean I have a coaching staff, our strength staff
here at Seattle as the same strength staff I had
at usc uh. Okay, Yes, it's really cool. So they
got to see me develop as like a young player,
so they know they know what works for Lendon will
you Yeah, exactly, And we all talk about how it
looks like I'm like and it feels like I'm in
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the best shape of my life.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Honestly, I mean that's saying something.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I mean for a guy your side to be able
to move and it's be as agile because we saw
what did they say, you're the largest guy to ever
get what do you have a ninety yard return of
returch averager? You're you're the heaviest guy in NFL history
to return an interception that far for a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Correct? Yeah, that's correct. So so how did that? So
let me so take us through that, take us through
that play?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
What what? What was?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What were you supposed were you supposed to drop in
courage or did you see something? You see his eyes
and just like I've been to make this play.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, that's one of Mike McDonald's genius players right there
actually where it was designed for the detacles to drop out.
And I actually got to pick and practice earlier in camp.
So when that play was dialed up, like every time
it's out up, I'm thinking, I'm a players coming my way,
and it just happened like it happened so fast, man,
Like people were asking me like, oh, like what were
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you thinking when it happened? And I was telling everybody
it felt like it was like an outer body experience
actually like I felt like I was almost watching myself
from like an aerial of view of there.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You snaged it. I mean, it wasn't like it like
you did. Nah, bro, you I mean like you played
tight end. At some point in time you caught the ball.
You played on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You had to that was not a default from that
means a lot. But yeah, I played. I played in
the high school, but it wasn't like much. It was
like just every once in a while. I went to
a big high school, so we didn't have to play
both sides that much. But I'm an athlete, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Hey, you are you from l A.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, I was born in California, but I went to
high school and Daytona Beach, Florida, So I was kind
of back and forth California and Florida most of my upbringing.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, you got a different quarterback this year? Uh Gino Leeds.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
People goes to the Las Vegas Raiders income Sam Donald,
who did an excellent job last year. But you you
played with with Sam and and and and and with
the Jets, so you're very familiar with him. What did
they expectation?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
What you got?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You guys had had a nice little end to the
season last year. I mean, so, what what's the expectations
this year for Seattle.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I mean, I think the expectation is, you know, as
a defense, we we want to be the best on
the on the field. We have high expectations for our
offense this year, but like we compete with each other
even within the defensive room, and so the defensive line
wants to be the best group on the defense. The
dbs the best group on the defense, and and so on.
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But I'm definitely excited about the way our offense is
looking right now. We've got a new coordinator and we're
running the ball great so far, it's only been preseason,
but it just it just looks like a new team
with the way we're running the ball. And then, like
you said, I played with Sam Donald sorry and on
the Jets, and then I also played with him at
USC for like one year.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yah.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You can't get away from him, huh, Yeah, I know
he keeps following, but like just seeing what he did
last year. I mean, you know, he even played against
us really well, and we played them last year against
the Vikings, and just seeing the way he's matured, and
you know, He's bounced around, played on a few teams,
played in a few different systems, and I think he's
finally found his groove and matured into a good player.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Most definitely.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
I mean, I'm excited for you guys too, especially from
an offensive perspective seeing what Sam Donald was able to
do in Minnesota last year, obviously with Justin Jefferson and
Addison Hogison, but then also now you got json, you
got Cooper Cup over there, Kenneth Walker obviously taking some
of the pressure off them from allowing to be able
to flourish. I think y'all gonna find y'all, y'all, y'all
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gonna be fine. So I'm excited for you. Who y'all
got Week one?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
We got the Niners. Divisional match, divisional robbery week one.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Baby, Yah yah, y'all got the Niners. They hurt, They
don't know who they're gonna throw the ball to.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Me when you when you, when you, what's your mindset?
What's your thought process?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Because you know you do you move up and down
the line because you know, oh, the great like a
lot of the defensive players that you know, the regg
your wife, the Bruce Math the Aaron Donalds, those guys
that Johnny Randers, Warren sapp they moved up and down
the line and they trying to turn the handle to
the door and see which one opens the quickets, which
one opened the easiest. And that's where I'm gonna stay.
So I might be hey, I might have to be
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a lot up in a seven. I might have to
line up in a five. I might get a three,
I might get hey, I might get to know whatever.
I'm just trying to find the weakest league, because that's
how it is on the sere and getty the old
and in the week get taken advantage of.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's what I'm looking to do. I mean you said
it perfectly. I mean I never heard it described with
the opening the door thing. That's like I might have
to take that back into the line room and read that.
But uh yeah, I mean I think that's something that
makes me a unique player since coming out of college,
I could play from the zero all the way out
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to like six nine technique on the edge like and
it showed up last year. I was getting you know,
sacks at and I was getting sacks at three technique.
I prefer three, like to play under tack. Yeah, like
I like you like that, Sha, It's just less face
less stuff to look at. Sometimes when I'm out there
at the end, it's like they will try to put.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
A receiver out there crack you.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's all that tricky stuff out there on
the edge. Sometimes when I'm on the three technique, I'm
just I'm getting on my man right now as quick
as possible.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
But in certain situations, like playing against the Niners, it's
a little less about finding the fish what.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We call it. Hey, you gotta land him. We got
we got over here. Yeah, yeah, we got the fish.
But against playing like the Niners is set of finding
the fish.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
They actually like to line me up on Trent because
they say their offense is kind of ran around him sometimes.
So it's like, uh, their their run game and a
lot of stuff like that tends to run towards Trent Williams,
So they like to put me on him to kind
of like help shut down the run a little bit.
So's it works hand in hand like that?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What's it like me?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
What's it like to get traded mid season? I mean,
so they called you, so were you when you got
the news that you were traded? Were you home, were
you at practice? So where were you when you got
the news that you were going to get traded.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I was in the building, it was Yeah, it was
on a Monday, so I came in just doing my
normal routine. I was definitely hearing like conversations about like
possible trade, you know, with my agent, and just the
way the season was going for the Giants. You know,
we we were losing, We were pretty much already out
of the playoffs. And then the GM like called me
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into his office, so I kind of already expected what
was coming, and the way he presented it to me
was making it seem like I had like two teams
to choose from that were like both trying to trade
for me for around the same offer pretty much. And
at the time, like the Seahawks were like number one
in the division. I knew of Pete Carroll a little bit,
and I just thought it was the best fit for me.
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It was obviously a struggle, like coming all the way
to the West coast specific d yeah, definitely, yeah, Yeah,
it was a long and then I'm living in a
hotel for like two weeks before I get situated in
like a house and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But you know, I even played good for those eight
weeks that I was here, And I remember like my
wife and like coaching teammates even asking me, like, you know,
how were you able to play good even in the
middle of like moving and transitioning your life and stuff
like that. And for me, I told my wife and
other people that, like there was so much going on
like out of my control, that it made.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Me like focus on what I could control.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Exactly. I was fully doubting on what I could control.
So it's just like the way I showed up for
work every day, the way I played, and stuff like
that just like went to another level because I was like, oh,
like I put so much more emphasis and focus on
like what I could control.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Right, What are your goals upcoming seven? From an individual standpoint? Obviously,
no team goals?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
You have those.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Defensively you have obviously you have team goals that you
have as a unit. But from an individual stand sandpoint,
what do you hope to accomplish this season outside of
the main goal being Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I mean as an individual, I think I just want
to like build on the season I had last year.
I felt like I was short of some accolades that
I that I worked for, and I feel like I
want to, you know, be first AP All Pro and
Pro Bowl this year, and you know, maybe like ten
plus sacks, like fifteen plus TfL just and also feed
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the rest of my guys. I feel like we have
a great D line right now, and I feel like
at least four of us can have eight plus sacks
this year.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
That do you feel like the defensive tackles because you
guys don't get the high sack totals.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Aaron Donalds is a nominally a guy that plays the
three tape get twenty sacks, that's crazy, that's unheard of.
But you guys don't get like the edges.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
You know, the Miles Garrett and and and the Michael
Parsons and j Watson's out there.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
On edge and playing in space.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
They're gonna have thirteen, fourteen, fifteen to seventeen twenty sacks.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Do you feel like you guys get the credit that
you deserve.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I think the standard for D tackle definitely has changed
in the last few years, and I think Aaron donald
was a big part of that. Obviously, him getting ten
plus sacks every year and you know, twenty sacks his
Defensive Player of the Year. You know that was that
was different for a defensive tackle. I think like if
you were getting like six to eight sacks as a
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defensive tackle normally, that's like a good season. Yeah, that's
a that's a good season for ad tackle normally. And
I think nowadays, you know, fans want to see ten
plus sacks from a defensive tackle for them to think
that you had a good season. And unfortunately, they see
sacks as like one of the main stats and they
don't see like all the play and playout runs that loss,
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the holding up so the linebackers can make the plays.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I mean, I don't like to do.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
What I like. You like to play the undertap. I
already know you ain't trying to do it. I like to,
but I want I want to make the play for sure.
I love my linebackers. But like I said, we'd be
competing in our room. Hey, hey, first club, first served, bro,
I'm trying to get out. I got first track. I'm
closed to it.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But you are. I heard you're in thematic. H what
do you know about that?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I think you know the little research so you yeah, yeah,
it's not like it's not like pulling bunnies out of
a hat, like not like that type of magic, you know.
I mean it's it's a card game. It's kind of
like similar to like Pokemon. You collect cards and you
can play it. It's it's called like Magic the game.
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Like Wizards Okay, yeah man, yeah, and I Wizards Up
the Coast is the brand that that makes them. And
what's cool is they they're based out here in Seattle,
So they gave me like a tour there for and
stuff like that, and uh, you know we've been in communication.
Was that what you do in your downtown? I mean,
I do a lot of things in my downtown. I
feel like I'm pretty different from most football players. I
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think I started playing football later in life, Like I
didn't start playing footba until I got to high school.
And I feel like because of that, I was able
to kind of figure myself out as like a person
a little bit. I mean I was young still obviously,
but I feel like I was able to like find
other interests in hobbies and stuff like that outside of football.
So I like to go like spear fishing and like
boating and traveling.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That's what I was I was about to ask you
being them there in Seattle. Do you like them? Do
you like to go fishing?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Because you know, uh, what's the market I would have there,
because you got to go to the market. If you
go to Seattle, you got to go to fish and
do all that. Have you Have you caught them? Have
you been able to catch it?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah? Of course I went up there, like a few
weeks after I got traded.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
When I finally got out of the hotel, like me
and my wife were like, Okay, now it was time
to explore the city a little bit. So we went
to the market it and like they all recognized me,
like right away, so they were like, big, kay, you
gotta come over here, And like I was definitely never
could I feel like I got hands Like you've seen the.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
But but I caught it and it was it was
a pretty cool tradition. But yeah, that's something I like
to do during my my off time is go fishing
and stuff like that. And I'm based down in Florida
during the off season, so it's perfect.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
You you're in.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Florida a lot of the man, I'm right here.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I'm right here Southwest.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I free dive when I fished.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's what I'm saying. I go spirit for should you
be free diving?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, buying it ain't buying it a litter.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
I can hold my breath like four minutes. I can
get in the spit in the water like my I'm
a no mad okay.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
So when you get in the off season, man, I
got you. We can take my boat. Well, I'm in
Southwest Ranches and for a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Let's go, yeah, man boat and everything letter.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I got, I got it.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
I got a yacht.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
It ain't it ain't mine, but but Mickey Harrison.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Is usually yacht.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Ain't nobody finishing I do yacht. Hey, lin, let me
ask you this, would you like? Would you would you
would you go on the trip? Let's just say they said, well,
they go out for they got to bring me back.
I couldn't stay out there for those two three months.
The deadliest catch, you know, they go out there to
the bar and see and they I think you could
do it like a couple of.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Days, but they gonna have to come get me. I
don't allow the weather boat be almost completely tilted over. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I'm pretty adventurous some life to do a lot of
crazy stuff. My teammates A judge me for sometimes, but
that's one of those.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
You go when you good with that, say them Alaska
King Crabs. I wait till they break up. I break them,
wait till they break them to the shore. I get
them being I'll buy him from the market. Hey, I
like to I like to teach you know that, T
Shirby say that Leigga than five. Yes, sir, that's my
team from La baby.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Man Leonard, thanks for joining us, Man, stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Great a tremendous season last year, hopefully even better season
this year. Man, Thanks dropping by, and guess what when
you get that uh, when you get those double digit
sacks this year and make first team All Pro, come
back and tell us somebody. Yes, sir, I appreciate you
all having thanks thanks for joining us, Broth Preacher. The
Cleveland Browns oh Joe are trading Kenny Pickett to the
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Raiders in exchange for a twenty twenty six fifth round pick,
taking twentieth overall by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the twenty
twenty two draft. Pickett has now been traded three times
in his career. That leaves the Browns with two rookies.
Dylan Gabriel and Shaw George Sanders behind starter Joe Flacco.
Stefanski has has not named Flacco's backup. The Raiders needed
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to back up the Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
After aiding O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
He broke his wrist and he's gonna be out six
to eight weeks, so they needed to back up.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah. The Browns like, you know what, we got one? Yes, sorry,
what y'all?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
What y'all try to do what y'all try to do something?
Y'all try to do something, do something, cause right now
at one o'clock, he's the time, four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Everything needs to be taken care of. So they got
this done. I like this move.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Oh yo, I told you, yeah, I didn't see a
scenario with Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett was on this
on this roster. To better record, I didn't see that.
I didn't, So, Tim, what you think about the move? Surprised?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
No, I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Obviously, Kenny Pickett is a very, very serviceful quarterback. He
showed glimpses of being able to lead a team. Maybe
not quarterback number one, but we saw him in Pittsburgh,
we saw him in Philly when he got his opportunity
to play there, and obviously due to injuries in circumstance,
we weren't able to see much of them in Cleveland,
but obviously seeing what he could do in two other.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Spots outside of outside of Las.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Vegas where he's going to be now, and obviously learning
and sitting behind Geno Smith is a great, great, great quarterback,
quarterback number one to sit behind and learn that offense from.
And if anything goes wrong where Geno Smith goes down,
Kenney Pickett is a grace servicell quarterback that can go
in and lead the team to a couple of wins.
Obviously they have a Mary Cooper to Kobe Myers is
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upset right now, obviously wanting an extension, and I think
because of Jacobe h requesting a trade, they obviously reached
out to Mark Cooper. And Mark Cooper has some other
choices of teams he could have went to, but he
chose to go back to the Raiders for obvious reasons.
He gonna get that ball. He gonna get that ball,
and I mean that's what it is. I think it's
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a good thing, good pick up for.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Pete Carroll and he's gonna be alright. He gonna be
all right over there in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, I like the booth for both sides, reports Ojo
that Kenny Pickett, they really the Browns really like Kenny Pickett,
and they were hoping he would be the starter. But
I didn't see a scenario where you if you're keeping
four quarterbacks, you're not keeping two veterans rookies.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Now, it just did.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me,
O Joe, No, not at all, because the backup, he's
not going to be your future. He's not your he's
not your future, your future of the rookies. So if
he got if he's your backup, now you're you're taking
rep from them.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Right hey.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
And I hate when they say stuff like that too.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
On the way you just started that that that that
sentence what they wanted Kenny Pickett to be the starter. Obviously,
Kenny Pickett was the type of quarterback that was to
be a starter in the future for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
He would have been Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Mean no, no, no disrespect to him, no disrespect to him.
He would have been that there.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Yes, when you think about the makeup in the DNA
of the Cleveland Browns. They are not heavily offensive skilled
in a sentence where you can have a quarterback that
needs more talent around him to succeed, like Kenny Pikett.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Would you know, I think jo Joe Flacco is suited.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
Okay, I don't have that much talent around me offensively
because the identity for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Is their defense. No matter what, stay in the chat
trying to the Cleveland brown defense, it's very good.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
No matter what you say. You can say what you
want to say. So they wire with the right choice
in Joe Flacco. They got Jerry Judy and Joeku and
they're gonna have They're gonna have to eat Sedgi Tilman.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
They're gonna have to eat.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
They gonna yeah, They're gonna have to They're gonna have
to carry a lot of do a lot of the
heavy lifting, O Joe, a lot of it. And the
thing is is that like Joe Flacco at forty years
of age, in your eighteen what are your expectations?
Speaker 1 (45:29):
What are your expectations?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I mean, if you really go back and look at it,
Joe Flacco really has hasn't ever really been good.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
In the regular season. He's made a name for.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Himself in the postseason, beating an Andrew Luck, beating a
Tom Brady, beating a Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
That's where he beat. He beat Tom Brady twice in
the postseason. I say something to.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Yeah, quick, real quick. He beat Andrew Luck, he beat
Tom Brady.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
Please let the chat know and understand the teams and
the talent that was surrounding him.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yes he did those.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Let's remember what that defense looked like.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Less you remember what the weapons he had on offense
looked like. Now it wasn't. It wasn't. Obviously it's a
team game. But we can't just put this all on Flacko.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Now. But he was I mean, I mean he was.
I mean he remember lod like Joe Montanna come play
with playoff times? Oh, yes, he never he.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Never showed what he's shown in the playoffs. He's never
shown that in the regular season for any length of time. Yes,
he's had good games. He's a quarterback. I mean, you
don't court to be a quarterback for a decade plus,
a starting quarterback for decade plus, oh Joe, and not
put up good numbers. So he's put up good numbers,
but nothing that would say, oh, my god, there's the
reason why Ozzie traded back into the first round that
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select Lamar Jackson. Yes, sir, so with that being said,
he beat Andrew. Look, he went to Denver, beat Peyton Manning.
He went to New England and beat Tom Brady. He
did that, and then he went on the road and
beat the San Francisco team when Colin Nick was at
his apex without outstanding defense, when they had Nabarro bowmen,
when they had Patrick Willis, when they had Smith, when
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they had those great that great team. Frank Gore running
the ball of mammoth offensive line.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
He did that.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
I'll give him credit for that, But like I said,
it's in the postseason that he's made a name, really
cut his teeth and made a name for himself because
there's really been no consistency in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
He showed you flash.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
He's like, damn, why can't we get this more more, more, more,
this Joe Flacco than the other guy.
Speaker 7 (47:29):
Listen, Joe Flacco, what are you gonna get the Browns?
He gonna give you a five six game run of wins.
You're gonna be like, holy man, he did it. He
did it two years ago.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yep, and Shaun went down.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Boy, they went on a hell of a run with
Flacko bro.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Jerry Judiet was that you Judy wasn't there?
Speaker 5 (47:48):
In Judy wasn't there? In fact that there was somebody
somebody that received it was going crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Man. Might have been Coop.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
It might be it was Coop going crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Man.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
It was the damn show was cool and see and
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
You see what happened. He came in, there was no expectations.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
They won some games, and then we started having expectations
for him, and then what happened.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Yeah, the bottom fell out.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Interceptions, Yes, yes, yes, so this I like this move
from the Browns. Now this gift Dylan Gabriel. Look, they
teld about where they have a name to back up.
We know who the backup is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I won't need a name. We already know who the
backup is going to be. Uh uh And and Dylan
gaber is going to be the backup. Is your door
when you get your reps and because you're gonna probably
be well, Dylan to be running some of the practice
some of the the opposing team's quarterback also, but excuse me,
the scout team offense. That's when your opportunity, that's when
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you show what you can do. That's why you don't
go through the motions. You take it serious. Hey, they
tell you where to go to the ball, you go
through your Hey, you go through your progressions and get
the ball where it needs to go. But in the meantime, Hey,
you get enough playbook and when your opportunity to presents itself,
you take full advantage of it.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
So the good thing and the funny thing, the good
thing for Stuart as well as Dylan Gabor as well,
is when you take the scout team reps, Hey, you're
going against the number one defense. Absolutely going against number
one defense. So yeah, obviously it's it's mental reps plus
physical reps. But it's against the best players, similar to
what you can see on a Sunday. So just not no,
(49:25):
it ain't gonna be no walk in the park man. Nope,
ain't gonna be no walking the pall.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
And I tell yo, but I read it that day,
I remember I met I remember that.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Think that was thirty five years I was rooking back
at nineteen ninety, so that's thirty five thirty six years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I remember it. I would lighten them up on yo.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Oh yeah, this my hey, this is my Sunday right
right at first day Friday, that is my Sunday. I'm
not gonna get a whole lot of reps on of offence.
I'm gonna be on special teams. This is my this
is my Sunday. Wednesday, Thursday Friday. I'm cooking. Yeah, they
take a take it easy my ass. Right, well, I'm
trying to keep it your aid as the coach then
(50:02):
told me that, hey, we still cut around here. Now,
I just want y'all to know that he well, it's September.
I think I'd have made the squad coach, and I'm no,
we still cut. Yeah, oh no, oh no, I can't
now how that's gonna look. Oh, Joe, I'd have made
the team. I don't call home, Libby. I made it, Spank,
I made it, Mama, I made it. Call home, but
I made it. And then all of a sudden I
get cut. Oh nah nah, hell nah, man, I cooked it.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I was cooking. Who. I'm trying to think who we played?
We played the Raiders over the week, my rookie year. Man.
I cooked the dude so bad.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Wednesday Thursday and Friday after practice, they cut it real,
cut it, cooked it.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
Cooked.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
I was cook on you.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
I was cooking.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Hey, it's it's so funny. I didn't know.
Speaker 7 (50:50):
I didn't know the correct way to practice. I knew
one thing. Do everything special teams. I'm out there playing
around just to keep my body warm and moving.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
I'm at I'm running down on stress of teams, Scout Team.
I was, yo, I'm in year ten.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
To O is you know?
Speaker 7 (51:11):
T O is obviously on the Bengals with me, so
I'm peeping. I'm watching t Okay, Okay, this is how
he do it. Okay, that's how you do it. Scout Team.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
Come up.
Speaker 7 (51:21):
I'm taking all the reps on Scout Team to give
my number ones a look. And Too pulled me to
the side, like, what is how you practice?
Speaker 5 (51:28):
You're not supposed you got to give your body time here,
I say, T, boy, I take all the reps. This
is this is all I know.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
This how I know?
Speaker 5 (51:36):
I said, He's like, oh boy, you tripping boy. You
got to save your legs for Sunday. I say, T
I'm gonna be all right, but this is how. This
is how I've always done it. I always take the
scout team.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
So I give the number one corners the best look
depending on what they're seeing. It's like, boy, you better
than me because I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Do that early.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Early, you know, I would take a couple you know,
they's like want to get some work or something. But
as I got old, I started getting your five year six.
I ain't got nothing for your scout team.
Speaker 7 (52:04):
Real god, I didn't know my first time, thinking there
was something wrong with it. Once Tiyo got Dare, the
Cincinnati was telling me, listen, you need you need to
scale back, and look, you need toning back.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
Do what you do with the ones when we're up
offensively and you go.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Oh yeah, seven hard reps. But plus o Joe, you
taking self. You're taking one on ones too.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
See.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
I was the only tight end that took one on ones.
I never ran routes against a linebacker and anything like that.
I ran routes against the wat DB's. So I'm getting
I'm getting that and I'm getting my reps. So once
we got through, I do like five six players of
nine on seven. Mike, say eighty four go down against
some work on one on one, okay, because you know
during the court some games I split out wide, I'd
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be in the flex position.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
But this is your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
If I could tell any rookie anything, give them any advice.
When you're running scout team, that is your Sunday. Yeah,
that is your game. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday is your Sunday.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
You approach it like that. You like that? Hey, man,
take it either No, I ain't take it either on nothing.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
When they cut that film on, they gonna see number
eighty one bus in his ass because I ain't going
home because I taking how you takeing it easy? You
want to let Okay, Hey, bro, I understand that you
a vet and you know you in your ten or
whatever the case may be. But I'm going thousand miles
an hour as hard as god to let me. Oh yeah,
and the ball gonna be coming to me too.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Cause and they was like, hey, son, he's a rookie.
So what you think that what you think they got
gonna do?
Speaker 4 (53:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
More than that?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
So you that's for sure. I don't even know what
I'm doing. I'm just I'm just following. Ay, I just
see the circle. Hey, that's where the ball going. Hey,
let me get that right there.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
We got a very special guest joining us right now.
We got all pro all pro safety from the Detroit
Lions led the league in exception last year. Harry Is
Ladies and gentlemen, Kirby Joseph kJ.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What do it do?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
So, y'all, man, I just want to thank you for
having me on here.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
What you got?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, I was saying the same thing. I think of
the same thing. I think of the same thing.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I ain't never I ain't never seen nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm in that color.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That color that would look where I'm sitting. You know
I'm sitting, you know, many many miles away, but that
would have looked like.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Yeah, man, I'm in the gap describing Hey, yeah, yeah,
how you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
How was your How was your off season coming in?
Because look, the last couple of years, you get to
the NFC Championship game, you lose to the divisional round,
So how was your off season?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Then?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
How do you lose the last two seasons, this off
season to get you right where you need.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
To be coming into this season.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
To be honest, I felt like that last season made
me even hunger, you know, just getting a taste of it,
like that I can do it, then I'm going to
like achieve it all. That's just how I am as
a person. You know what I'm saying, I'm never gonna
stop that at nine. Like you know what I said,
I got nine interception. I'm not gonna stop at nine.
I'm always gonna try to pr you know, because I
feel like if you're not getting better, you're getting worse.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Hey, how was how was camp this year? How's the
body holding up? Obviously? Are you going into are you?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Uncle always has a saying if you if you limped
to the season, you're gonna limp out the season. How's
your body holding up? How the camp go, and how
you feeling going?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Man?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Honestly, everything went great. Man, I feel like we had
a great camp. I just felt like I know now,
like you know, this is like year or fourth from me,
so it's like a lot of stuff I don't seen before.
So like that that's saying, that's saying, like, oh the
more years you play like, the more experience you'll get.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Like that's like, that's the truth, you know, cliches.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Look last year, you guys, man, you got off to
this great start. You played pretty well all year, but
these injuries started to mount. You lose a D lineman,
you lose a D tackle, you lose a live backup,
you lose a backup, you lose. You just kept you
losing player after player, and AG did a great job.
And Coach Campbell, your head coach, did a great job
of keeping this team steady, like no matter who we lose, guys, Hey,
(02:39):
this is why we have fifty three man rosters. Hey, guys,
come in. You do your job. That's all I need
you to do is your job. It had to be frustrated.
You're like, what damn bro I mean at some point
in time, we got to run out of defensive players.
We can't lose anybody else.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Yeah, last year that was I've never seen nothing like
that in football.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I never seen I never seen that before. That it was.
I wouldn't say it was frustrating, but it was.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Kind of heartbreaking just seeing my brothers, you know what
I'm saying, like get injured and stuff because Nobody wants
to get injured in this game, you know what I'm saying.
But we love saying this game and you know that's
what we signed up for. You know, injuries are gonna happen.
But like how that happened, Uh yeah, yeah, I never
seen that before. But I felt like I felt like, man,
(03:28):
we just we just knew what we had to do,
you know. I mean, you know, gods go down, you
know what I'm saying, And if it's something like that
that happens, Man, I feel like I don't pride myself
on like just having Like I wouldn't say I but
I feel like us as a team, we don't we
don't I should I say, we don't believe in like
(03:48):
ones and twos.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Going, yeah, yeah, because like I tell I tell the
group all the time, like even everybody else, it's gonna
take all of us to win, you know what I'm saying.
So like, as a team, that's just what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You know what I'm saying. When your brother down, man,
you got to step up to play.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
How different?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Hey, now I'm gonna say obviously with ag being being going,
I'm I'm one of the ones I've always come to
bat for you guys regards to who the person is
calling defensive plays.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
With AG now being with the.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Jets, but the same players are still there. So regardless
of who's calling the plays from your from your perspective
and your point, are you still allowed the freedom to
be able to do what you want to do at
the safety position, being that you're as good as you
are being able to have a little a little freedom to.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Do what.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I feel like I want to say now, I always
had a little freedom, especially when AG was there. Just
you know what I'm saying, learning as I go. You know,
I feel like, yeah, the same the same players are here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
You know what I'm saying. You know, a g I'm missed,
so you know what I'm saying. But you know, he
had to go do what he had to do at
the Jets. You know what I'm saying. I'm wishing them
good luck and all.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
But I feel like I don't feel like the level
of play is gonna go and decline at all. You know,
if anything, I feel like it will increase a lot more.
You know what I'm saying, Because now I feel like
it's just you know, it's a new coaching staff change,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Everybody has to.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Go through that coaching staff change and that building relationships
and the adversity you have to go through throughout the season,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
So I just feel like it's a new turning point,
you know, a new chapter.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Right.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
The thing for me, when I'm thinking, I think about
safety play, you wanted a better Seaton Probably I actually
the best safety in the NFL, you know, along with
Kyle Hamilton. And to be able to get the amount
of picks you get, there's a certain amount of freedom
that you have to have that. It can't be schemed,
it can't be scripted. It's not extit those it's just
you being able to have free will to make decisions
(05:43):
based on your eye, disciplining what you see. So, I
know you have a new coaching staff, and most of
the time you get coaches that come in and they
have I don't want to I think, maybe not ego
for the most part, but I want you to do
things my way and my way only.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
So I was just curious if even with the new
coaching staff, are you.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Still allowed to have free wheel outside of the exit
of those to be able to play.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
I feel like like one thing I noticed about like
a lot of a lot of my teammates on the
on the team is that man, like, we're football players,
you know. I feel like the team does a great
job allowing us to be football players, because you know,
football is not just what you see on paper.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It's not going to be like that in the game.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So you gotta.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Understand stuff happened, so you gotta you know, you gotta
play football though.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You just got to play football out.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
I like that you said that because this is something
that I always struggle with somebody obviously when I was playing.
You go in, they put they put the scheme, the taxes,
this is we're running. They do the exit and nose
it's a straight line and he cuts right. I'm like, dude,
that's not how it happens in real time. You got
people moving, pushing and tugging. So it's kind of different
out there on the field. And most of the time
(06:51):
I would always tell my officer coordinator, give me a
little freedom to do what I do, but I'm gonna
stay within the time of the offense and the same
thing on defense. It's all about reacting in a certain
amount of time. But I'm gonna do everything I can
the way you draw it up. But you got to
give me some freedom. We don't have me out there
playing like a goddamn robot. Yeah, well go ahead, it's
(07:14):
just not in me, bro I got them right, right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
No, My question is is that you got somebody in
your division that you face twice a year, that was
your offensive coordinator for a long period of time, and
you know he's drawing up plays to beat the defensive
training camp. You guys are trying to scheme plays to
stop the offensive training camp. So how how fun, how different,
how difficult do you think it'll be to face Ben Johnson.
(07:39):
We know he's one of the best offensive minds in football,
and he happens to be in your division. You played
them twice a year, and they've loaded up. They went
and got drafted the receiver in the second round, they
drafted a tight end.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
In the first round. They shored up their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They're seemingly in the preseason and I don't don't want
to put too much on the preseason, Kirby, but it
seems to be there flying around defensively, but you know,
their braid is buttered on the offense. They got a
first round draft pick, they got DJ Moore, they got
room with Doomsday. I think they got whether Burton. I
think they took Burton in the second round on Missouri.
They got Loveland, uh and Cole Kmet So they're they're
(08:13):
a really good team. But you know, you you familiar
with him and he's familiar with you.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Hey, I like that you said that because, like you know, Ben,
Ben had to go do what he had to do,
just like a g D. You know, I'm happy for
you know what I'm saying, the opportunity. Yeah, they got
some guys over there, you know what I'm saying. But uh,
Ben know what's up with me?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Like you said, you know what's up with me?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
So I'm never going back down away from competition because honestly,
I feel like that he knows the players, and he
knows kind of the scheme we run and stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I feel like it's more of a challenge, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
So I feel like it's always always a way to
get better, and I feel like that's a big, big
test right there.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, you know what, I would keep out like Dan
Campbell because when he first got it job, that man
talking about knee camps and he was gonna do all this.
So what's what's he really when the cameras are not
there and it's just you guys at practice and you
guys are in the meeting room or you what's Dan
(09:16):
Campbell like?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Honestly, man, I feel like I feel like I feel
like Dan Campbell that's just a great coach.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I feel like he's more of a player's coach because
just because he understands, like what you know, what we
put our body through and what we go through throughout
what I'm saying, Yeah, he was a former player, so
we kind of understand how everything be. I feel like
he does a great job of like taking care of us,
and he shows that he's passionate, you.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Know about a lot of things we do.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Like the reason why he's telling us, uh these things,
he's telling us just because he wants us to win.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Not only him to win, but he wants us to win.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like people, I'm saying, it's
not just him or the team, it's us because we're
doing this as a group. We're a team. You know
what I'm saying, rich and won't go together. So I
feel like he does a great job.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But just shit does that? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
And a lot of the drills we do are a
lot of the practices are the meeting, the temates and
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Man, I just felt like.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Man, every time that man get up, go up on
that podium or whatever he talking about, already go right now,
already no, yeah, already right now. So I just man,
I love coach camera. Man, he does you know what
I'm saying. Everything I like it?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Like what's what's your nutrition?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Like are you are you one of those healthy eaters
you know, eat green stuff all the time?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Like are you that.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna try to eat good,
but like if I ain't got you know, over the
extent to just start myself not eating food, I'm gonna
eat my factor.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
See I like it.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
See so that important My next question. Okay, okay, okay,
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
I want to provide my services. Uh you know, I'm
a meal prep so I could provide.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You with meals.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Monday through Sunday only charge twenty dollars.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
No, yeah, yeah, I'm a meal.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
I'm trying to make sure you get the greatest output
every Sunday or Thursday night or Monday nights, whenever y'all
might play. And you my first client. So I'm not
taking no for answer. I'm not taking no for answer.
I'm telling you so, I'm gonna let the world know. Listen,
I'm on nutrition is from my own and I thank
you for forgiving me the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Okay, bet, it's it's all good.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'll take y'all, I'll take y out.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got I got a new job.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I got a new job.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You guys traded Tim Patrick, Jamison Williams going into It's like, Jamison,
do you think he's ready to take that next step?
Because we've seen him show so the flashes. We know
what Amin Rah, we know what he's gonna do. But
now Jamison, you know, and and at first he was
just that guy that tried to get deep. But now
you can just put the ball, you can hand it
to him and he can go hit his head on
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the gold post. You can throw him a smoke screen,
jail break screen, and he can go get the he
can go to the end zone. So what what do
you think? What can we expect to see from from
Jamison this year?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Man, Honestly, I'm so I'm so proud of Gemo.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Man.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Jimo is one of the guys that you you know,
you see out there and he just continues to get patty.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And I feel like this year, I feel like they
ain't seen this Gemo yet. Man, they ain't seen Jamo yet.
And so so I ain't you.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Know what I'm saying, I ain't gon put it all
out though.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But Jamo this year, for sure, he ready, he ready
to rock.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Hey hey, Brian Branchat man man bb.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Man, Oh no, right now, he's probably some of them,
but man, that's man. That's that's none of the guys
on another guy on the team that continues to just
work hard. Bro like bro his his his back said
his back tools or whatever he use to play safety.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yeah. Nice, he may he nice.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I talked about him. I talked about him all last year.
Matter of fact, he got to the point where it
was almost weird. I tweeted about him and you so much,
to the point where it's like I was like I
was stalking.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But I'm listen.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
I appreciate secondary play, dB play so much, even though
I'm receiver. I was giving y'all, y'all boys credit weekend
and week out, just the way y'all played the game
and y'all approached the game.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
So I'm I'm, I'm.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I've always been a huge fan, especially when you you
and and God Damn Brian branch Man. Him being able
to go to safety then sometime having to go to corn,
I'm like, man, what.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
The hell like Damn this Swiss Army.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now he's doing everything.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Man, he's super talented. Man, he's super talented. I feel
like one thing he does the most is like his
instincts crazy. His instinct is crazy. Him and him at safety.
It's kind of the nigga's kind of out the part.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
But when they moved him back to safety, you know,
I said with Zoo, man like the place he made Gods,
you know.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
What I'm saying. I'm still wishing I made them put
it like that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Are your Are you a talker? I mean when you're
on the on the field, are you talking to the
opposing team? Is your defense talkers or you guys just
go play football?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
To be honest, I felt like everybody got their own
little situation going.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
On over Yeah there.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Me personally, I feel like I feel like I own
too much. Say nothing, but somebody pissed me off. Bro,
you're gonna hear me, Bro like I'm and one. I'm
going at you.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Bro, I'm never gonna stop.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Is there a player?
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Is there a player that you really don't like that
y'all always go at it to give you a bad
example perspective, Mike Evans and Marshawn Lottimore, Do you have
anybody like that that you go at it with in
the NFL?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Or not? A couple.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Couple?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
A couple of them too much to be going for
none of that?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Is it personal?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Or it's like really serious, Like I don't really, I don't.
I don't see you like that, Like I.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Really like that?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Who?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Who I want to know?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I'll tell you, I tell you, I ain't, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Tell okay, okay, okay, Because once they find out, they're
gonna be trying to separate.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, once he find out, he gonna try to get
you before you get him.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, now you know you know why I am.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So okay.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Obviously your head coach, and you mentioned a lot of
the players from the defense and the offense is still there.
Although you lost both of your coordinators. The expectations are
still high. You guys won fifteen games last year. The
year before that, you went to the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Bro, it's time.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I mean, you know, you only get you only get
so many body of the Apple curb before the before
the apples gone.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now y'all been taking y'all been taking big bikes.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Hey, we ain't don't stop, and we ain't gonna stop
till we get there though, Like, but I don't never
see myself especially like stopping. I feel like a lot
of the things we went through, I feel like it
was to get us to this moment right now. I
feel like we got a lot of guys healthy, We
got guys back, you know what I'm saying. I feel like,
especially the guys that were on the team last year,
they kind of understand that we gave it even more
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than we did the first year, but that still wasn't enough,
you know what I'm saying. So gotta still keep going
because now it's just any minute. My new thing going
on with the game. That could be the change up
the toide of the game, you know what I'm saying.
So just working on the situations and stuff like that,
and then just we got made plays, you know what
I'm saying. I feel like I feel like a lot
of the things that happened on the field or like playmaking,
(16:43):
I feel like it's not only the coaches getting on us,
but it's ourselves because we got we keep ourselves accountable
a lot of the things.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, cause it's like I hard my I be
hard on myself when I don't get an exception for
the game, you know, because I feel like, I look,
I leave my team down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
And even by feel the same way if he didn't
get enough sacks. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
It's just stuff like that, Like you know, I should
be like you know what I'm saying, Let's help each
other and keep each other.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Like on points week sixteen, you got you face a
very familiar opponent. You were in the same division with
this guy, Aaron Rodgers. He's with the Steelers. Now you
have a lot of success against Rogers. You're looking forward
to that matchup.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, yeah, hey, hey that's my favorite quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Though you expected him to throw you a couple of humps, yeah, yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, they ain't gonna stop. Yeah, yeah, ain't gonna stop.
But hey he cooled, Oh he cool for sure. I'm
trying to see. I'm trying to see if he's gonna
sign one of them.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I was about to ask you the same thing, say
you try to get what of the ball? Saying yeah,
why are there Rogers?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, I'm trying to get one of the ball. I'm trying.
I'm trying to at least one of them. I got about.
I'm trying to just get a sign. I'm just trying
to get I'm just trying to get a signed.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They'll played Steelers Week sixteen.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, and y'all, y'all, y'all don't play. I think we
got them on the schedule this year. Yeah. I think
that my first time going against Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You got do you circle games? Do you you look
at do you look at the call? Do you look
at the schedule? Like okay, all right, yeah yeah yeah,
this is my Yeah, okay, I like this.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I like this one. Do you circle game? Week five? Y'all?
Play the Bengals Week five.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Oh for real, I'm going to the game we playing. Okay, Okay,
I see you we five. I'm coming out here. I'm
coming out there.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Yeah, I feel I don't feel like I got like
a whole bunch of games. But I dude, be having
like revenge games. I have like a revenge game or
like somebody ain't playing like the Bengals, you know what
I'm saying, Like, yeah, like that's one of my games
out of circle because you know, I never played them before.
I always like that play different teams and see different people,
to see different players.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You know. Yeah, and you know they got one of
the better offenses.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know the quarterback you mentioned, Joe, they got t
they got a Chase, the Triple Crown winner. They're supposed
to be really really good on that side of the football.
So you guys are really going to have your work
cut out for you.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah. And I see I see a couple of my
dogs out there, Chas Brown and PJ.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
So them my dogs.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
I'm trying to uh, you know, and Jerseys fo see
all them boys. You know, I say, it's always good
to see you. You know what I'm saying. Your teammates
from them, weigh in the back and weigh in the past.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, Kirby Man, best of luck, stay healthy. Thanks for
giving us a few moments of your time tonight. Man,
wishing the Lions the best of luck and uh you
guys win that division and get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Man, come back and join us and have a conversation
with us again.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
For sure, man for shure.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Man, Oh go ahead.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Hey, now I'm saying my meal prep. I'm gonna send
you the directions on how to take the food the mounts.
You know, three it's three meals a day, three meals
a day, So I'm.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Gonna send everything to you. I'm gonna send it to
your d M.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
And uh then I'm gonna mail all the food to
you here.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Real yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Real.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Hey listen, I'm I promise you, no, listen, I'm you
my first client. I'm an NFL nutritionist. I'm going to
make sure people stop getting hurt. Not only are people
gonna stop getting hurt, they're going.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
To be able to put out the best output because
of my meal plan and my meal prep. So boom,
this is what it is.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's what I do.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Look, I got like three hundred jobs and added one. Hey,
come on, support black business. Support black business.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Look look when we you know what I'm saying, get
off the call. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Just hit me.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know what I said, We could do that though.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I got you, I got, I got you twin I got.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
But I do want to thank y'all for having me
out here. I want to thank God also just for
you giving me the opportunity to come out here every
day play football, you know what I'm saying, and just
to get back. So appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Appreciate you with joining of the man. Appreciate that. Now,
take care and stay healthy. Man. We'll talk to you
down the road for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Y'all be good.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh, here's that second guest, Jordiau's two time.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Pro Bowl player uh in his first full season at
the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Here you big litter? Will you little? What's going on? Man?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
How you guys doing?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Can y'all hear me?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
We can hear you just fine? Can you hear up?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yes, sir, I'm on my wife's computer, so I'm trying
to figure out how to change your name on.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It right now what's up?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Haley? No? No, l W was good. I'm good. How
you doing?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
And listen, man, life is good. Man, one ft in
front of the other man. I got my head high
so I can see where I'm going. But before we start,
before we get into football, I just want to know
that you got a nutritionist.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh, I don't have. I do have a Nutritions on
the team that I use.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
And then I also, oh, yeah, well we're not using
We're not using him or her no more, we're not
using her. Listen, I'm a meal prep I'm the NFL Nutritions.
I've been appointed by the NFL for all the players.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
So I'm gonna senior information and I'm gonna be your me.
I'm gonna meal prep your meals for the next seventeen
weeks and for the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
And you my second client.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
So I got is you and Kirby Joseph. And then
I'm I'm in twenty dollars a week. Twenty dollars a week,
that's all.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's all I charge.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I'll be making sure he eat before all the rookies
about I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Literally, you get traded, you go to Seattle and it
seems like in Seattle you found a home. I mean, look,
it's not that you didn't play you didn't play bad,
but it seems like you found a home in Seattle.
Can you tell us what's the biggest difference between Seattle
and New York? And I'm not talking about geographically, but
I'm saying in the defenses, was it something the way
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the coaches, the way you receive the information. Was it
the way they gave the information? Is the defensive scheme?
What was different about the defense?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Man?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Honestly, I agree with you. I feel like I found
a home out here in Seattle. I feel like there's
a combination of things that made it feel different. Though
the fan base was one of the big differences, just
like the way they embrace me, the way they show
up on game day, the way they support our team
and stuff like that. And then also just in terms
of schematics and coaches, I feel like, you know, having
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a d who came from the Cowboys and then coach
Mike McDonald, I feel like they just kind of created
a scheme where they allow me to like play with
freedom and they allow me to be like a playmaker
and use my athleticism and they celebrate me for you know,
just being in the backfield and and sometimes like if
(23:49):
I'm if I see a play outside of the scheme,
they allow me to like swim a block, Yeah, exactly,
go make a play where you know, a lot of
times throughout my career, I feel like I've was almost
too cultorable at times where you know, I was taken
away from my playmaking ability where I was like trying
to play a block the way the coaches wanted me
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to and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So there's a lot of conversation and stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
It's so funny you just said that.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
We just talked to Kirby Joseph and the one thing
I asked them, obviously they have a new defensive coordinator, right,
And I said, do you still have the freedom to
have free will outside of the scheme that your coach
has where they still allow you to do that?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
And he said yes.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
And the fact that you you started everything out about
your coaches allowing you to have the freedom to be
able to make plays based on your football knowledge and
what your eyes see instead of what it says on
paper is really really important, especially for players like yourself
to be able to reach their maximum potential out there
on Sundays.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
And that's that's really dope. That's really really dope to hear.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I agree, I think it's important.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I mean for me, it just made me feel like
it brought like the excitement of football back from me
a little bit to which made me like, once I
started having fun. Y'all played before, so you know how
it is like when you're out there having fun and
you're able to play free and you know, have free
will and be celebrated for it, it's like the best
out of.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You comes out. And I feel like that's how it
is here. Ask you this.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
When you're at the Giants and then you get traded,
you're like, damn, has anybody ever been traded from the
Giants to the Jams or JEMs to the Giants? I mean,
because it is so different Jet fans, I mean, the
Jets fans and the Giants fans, they're so different.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The city reacts so different than the each team. M hmm.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, it was, even though
we played in the same stadium, the fan base felt different,
The culture felt very different. The Jets were kind of
further out in Jersey. I felt like we were like
a New Jersey team kind of, and then the Giants
being so close to the city made me feel like
I was the actual New York team. But it was
it was very interesting. I mean, luckily I didn't have
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to move during that trade. I was still able to
stay in my house. But it was definitely weird when
like that same week I got traded, I ended up
playing in the stadium, and like, instead of going into
one parking lot, I went to a different parking lot,
and instead of walking down that hall to go to
one locker room, I just went to a different locker room.
So it was very strange. Just yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah, how is the body holding up?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Man?
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Going into camp? I mean actually camp now ending week one?
How's the body holding up?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean amazing, honestly.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I mean I have a coaching staff, our strength staff
here at Seattle as the same strength staff I had
at usc uh. Okay, Yes, it's really cool. So they
got to see me develop as like a young player,
so they know they know what works for Lendon will
you Yeah, exactly, And we all talk about how it
looks like I'm like and it feels like I'm in
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the best shape of my life.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Honestly, I mean that's saying something.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I mean for a guy your side to be able
to move and it's be as agile because we saw
what did they say, you're the largest guy to ever
get what do you have a ninety yard return of
returch averager? You're you're the heaviest guy in NFL history
to return an interception that far for a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Correct? Yeah, that's correct. So so how did that? So
let me so take us through that, take us through
that play?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
What what? What was?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What were you supposed were you supposed to drop in
courage or did you see something? You see his eyes
and just like I've been to make this play.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, that's one of Mike McDonald's genius players right there
actually where it was designed for the detacles to drop out.
And I actually got to pick and practice earlier in camp.
So when that play was dialed up, like every time
it's out up, I'm thinking, I'm a players coming my way,
and it just happened like it happened so fast, man,
Like people were asking me like, oh, like what were
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you thinking when it happened? And I was telling everybody
it felt like it was like an outer body experience
actually like I felt like I was almost watching myself
from like an aerial of view of there.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You snaged it. I mean, it wasn't like it like
you did. Nah, bro, you I mean like you played
tight end. At some point in time you caught the ball.
You played on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You had to that was not a default from that
means a lot. But yeah, I played. I played in
the high school, but it wasn't like much. It was
like just every once in a while. I went to
a big high school, so we didn't have to play
both sides that much. But I'm an athlete, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Hey, you are you from l A.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, I was born in California, but I went to
high school and Daytona Beach, Florida, So I was kind
of back and forth California and Florida most of my upbringing.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, you got a different quarterback this year? Uh Gino Leeds.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
People goes to the Las Vegas Raiders income Sam Donald,
who did an excellent job last year. But you you
played with with Sam and and and and and with
the Jets, so you're very familiar with him. What did
they expectation?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
What you got?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You guys had had a nice little end to the
season last year. I mean, so, what what's the expectations
this year for Seattle.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I mean, I think the expectation is, you know, as
a defense, we we want to be the best on
the on the field. We have high expectations for our
offense this year, but like we compete with each other
even within the defensive room, and so the defensive line
wants to be the best group on the defense. The
dbs the best group on the defense, and and so on.
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But I'm definitely excited about the way our offense is
looking right now. We've got a new coordinator and we're
running the ball great so far, it's only been preseason,
but it just it just looks like a new team
with the way we're running the ball. And then, like
you said, I played with Sam Donald sorry and on
the Jets, and then I also played with him at
USC for like one year.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yah.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You can't get away from him, huh, Yeah, I know
he keeps following, but like just seeing what he did
last year. I mean, you know, he even played against
us really well, and we played them last year against
the Vikings, and just seeing the way he's matured, and
you know, He's bounced around, played on a few teams,
played in a few different systems, and I think he's
finally found his groove and matured into a good player.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Most definitely.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
I mean, I'm excited for you guys too, especially from
an offensive perspective seeing what Sam Donald was able to
do in Minnesota last year, obviously with Justin Jefferson and
Addison Hogison, but then also now you got json, you
got Cooper Cup over there, Kenneth Walker obviously taking some
of the pressure off them from allowing to be able
to flourish. I think y'all gonna find y'all, y'all, y'all
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gonna be fine. So I'm excited for you. Who y'all
got Week one?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
We got the Niners. Divisional match, divisional robbery week one.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Baby, Yah yah, y'all got the Niners. They hurt, They
don't know who they're gonna throw the ball to.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Me when you when you, when you, what's your mindset?
What's your thought process?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Because you know you do you move up and down
the line because you know, oh, the great like a
lot of the defensive players that you know, the regg
your wife, the Bruce Math the Aaron Donalds, those guys
that Johnny Randers, Warren sapp they moved up and down
the line and they trying to turn the handle to
the door and see which one opens the quickets, which
one opened the easiest. And that's where I'm gonna stay.
So I might be hey, I might have to be
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a lot up in a seven. I might have to
line up in a five. I might get a three,
I might get hey, I might get to know whatever.
I'm just trying to find the weakest league, because that's
how it is on the sere and getty the old
and in the week get taken advantage of.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's what I'm looking to do. I mean you said
it perfectly. I mean I never heard it described with
the opening the door thing. That's like I might have
to take that back into the line room and read that.
But uh yeah, I mean I think that's something that
makes me a unique player since coming out of college,
I could play from the zero all the way out
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to like six nine technique on the edge like and
it showed up last year. I was getting you know,
sacks at and I was getting sacks at three technique.
I prefer three, like to play under tack. Yeah, like
I like you like that, Sha, It's just less face
less stuff to look at. Sometimes when I'm out there
at the end, it's like they will try to put.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
A receiver out there crack you.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's all that tricky stuff out there on
the edge. Sometimes when I'm on the three technique, I'm
just I'm getting on my man right now as quick
as possible.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
But in certain situations, like playing against the Niners, it's
a little less about finding the fish what.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We call it. Hey, you gotta land him. We got
we got over here. Yeah, yeah, we got the fish.
But against playing like the Niners is set of finding
the fish.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
They actually like to line me up on Trent because
they say their offense is kind of ran around him sometimes.
So it's like, uh, their their run game and a
lot of stuff like that tends to run towards Trent Williams,
So they like to put me on him to kind
of like help shut down the run a little bit.
So's it works hand in hand like that?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What's it like me?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
What's it like to get traded mid season? I mean,
so they called you, so were you when you got
the news that you were traded? Were you home, were
you at practice? So where were you when you got
the news that you were going to get traded.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I was in the building, it was Yeah, it was
on a Monday, so I came in just doing my
normal routine. I was definitely hearing like conversations about like
possible trade, you know, with my agent, and just the
way the season was going for the Giants. You know,
we we were losing, We were pretty much already out
of the playoffs. And then the GM like called me
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into his office, so I kind of already expected what
was coming, and the way he presented it to me
was making it seem like I had like two teams
to choose from that were like both trying to trade
for me for around the same offer pretty much. And
at the time, like the Seahawks were like number one
in the division. I knew of Pete Carroll a little bit,
and I just thought it was the best fit for me.
(33:54):
It was obviously a struggle, like coming all the way
to the West coast specific d yeah, definitely, yeah, Yeah,
it was a long and then I'm living in a
hotel for like two weeks before I get situated in
like a house and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But you know, I even played good for those eight
weeks that I was here, And I remember like my
wife and like coaching teammates even asking me, like, you know,
how were you able to play good even in the
middle of like moving and transitioning your life and stuff
like that. And for me, I told my wife and
other people that, like there was so much going on
like out of my control, that it made.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Me like focus on what I could control.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Exactly. I was fully doubting on what I could control.
So it's just like the way I showed up for
work every day, the way I played, and stuff like
that just like went to another level because I was like, oh,
like I put so much more emphasis and focus on
like what I could control.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Right, What are your goals upcoming seven? From an individual standpoint? Obviously,
no team goals?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
You have those.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Defensively you have obviously you have team goals that you
have as a unit. But from an individual stand sandpoint,
what do you hope to accomplish this season outside of
the main goal being Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I mean as an individual, I think I just want
to like build on the season I had last year.
I felt like I was short of some accolades that
I that I worked for, and I feel like I
want to, you know, be first AP All Pro and
Pro Bowl this year, and you know, maybe like ten
plus sacks, like fifteen plus TfL just and also feed
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the rest of my guys. I feel like we have
a great D line right now, and I feel like
at least four of us can have eight plus sacks
this year.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
That do you feel like the defensive tackles because you
guys don't get the high sack totals.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Aaron Donalds is a nominally a guy that plays the
three tape get twenty sacks, that's crazy, that's unheard of.
But you guys don't get like the edges.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
You know, the Miles Garrett and and and the Michael
Parsons and j Watson's out there.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
On edge and playing in space.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
They're gonna have thirteen, fourteen, fifteen to seventeen twenty sacks.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Do you feel like you guys get the credit that
you deserve.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I think the standard for D tackle definitely has changed
in the last few years, and I think Aaron donald
was a big part of that. Obviously, him getting ten
plus sacks every year and you know, twenty sacks his
Defensive Player of the Year. You know that was that
was different for a defensive tackle. I think like if
you were getting like six to eight sacks as a
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defensive tackle normally, that's like a good season. Yeah, that's
a that's a good season for ad tackle normally. And
I think nowadays, you know, fans want to see ten
plus sacks from a defensive tackle for them to think
that you had a good season. And unfortunately, they see
sacks as like one of the main stats and they
don't see like all the play and playout runs that loss,
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the holding up so the linebackers can make the plays.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I mean, I don't like to do.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
What I like. You like to play the undertap. I
already know you ain't trying to do it. I like to,
but I want I want to make the play for sure.
I love my linebackers. But like I said, we'd be
competing in our room. Hey, hey, first club, first served, bro,
I'm trying to get out. I got first track. I'm
closed to it.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But you are. I heard you're in thematic. H what
do you know about that?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I think you know the little research so you yeah, yeah,
it's not like it's not like pulling bunnies out of
a hat, like not like that type of magic, you know.
I mean it's it's a card game. It's kind of
like similar to like Pokemon. You collect cards and you
can play it. It's it's called like Magic the game.
(37:49):
Like Wizards Okay, yeah man, yeah, and I Wizards Up
the Coast is the brand that that makes them. And
what's cool is they they're based out here in Seattle,
So they gave me like a tour there for and
stuff like that, and uh, you know we've been in communication.
Was that what you do in your downtown? I mean,
I do a lot of things in my downtown. I
feel like I'm pretty different from most football players. I
(38:12):
think I started playing football later in life, Like I
didn't start playing footba until I got to high school.
And I feel like because of that, I was able
to kind of figure myself out as like a person
a little bit. I mean I was young still obviously,
but I feel like I was able to like find
other interests in hobbies and stuff like that outside of football.
So I like to go like spear fishing and like
boating and traveling.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That's what I was I was about to ask you
being them there in Seattle. Do you like them? Do
you like to go fishing?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Because you know, uh, what's the market I would have there,
because you got to go to the market. If you
go to Seattle, you got to go to fish and
do all that. Have you Have you caught them? Have
you been able to catch it?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah? Of course I went up there, like a few
weeks after I got traded.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
When I finally got out of the hotel, like me
and my wife were like, Okay, now it was time
to explore the city a little bit. So we went
to the market it and like they all recognized me,
like right away, so they were like, big, kay, you
gotta come over here, And like I was definitely never
could I feel like I got hands Like you've seen the.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
But but I caught it and it was it was
a pretty cool tradition. But yeah, that's something I like
to do during my my off time is go fishing
and stuff like that. And I'm based down in Florida
during the off season, so it's perfect.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
You you're in.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Florida a lot of the man, I'm right here.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I'm right here Southwest.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I free dive when I fished.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's what I'm saying. I go spirit for should you
be free diving?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, buying it ain't buying it a litter.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
I can hold my breath like four minutes. I can
get in the spit in the water like my I'm
a no mad okay.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
So when you get in the off season, man, I
got you. We can take my boat. Well, I'm in
Southwest Ranches and for a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Let's go, yeah, man boat and everything letter.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I got, I got it.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
I got a yacht.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
It ain't it ain't mine, but but Mickey Harrison.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Is usually yacht.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Ain't nobody finishing I do yacht. Hey, lin, let me
ask you this, would you like? Would you would you
would you go on the trip? Let's just say they said, well,
they go out for they got to bring me back.
I couldn't stay out there for those two three months.
The deadliest catch, you know, they go out there to
the bar and see and they I think you could
do it like a couple of.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Days, but they gonna have to come get me. I
don't allow the weather boat be almost completely tilted over. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I'm pretty adventurous some life to do a lot of
crazy stuff. My teammates A judge me for sometimes, but
that's one of those.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
You go when you good with that, say them Alaska
King Crabs. I wait till they break up. I break them,
wait till they break them to the shore. I get
them being I'll buy him from the market. Hey, I
like to I like to teach you know that, T
Shirby say that Leigga than five. Yes, sir, that's my
team from La baby.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Man Leonard, thanks for joining us, Man, stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Great a tremendous season last year, hopefully even better season
this year. Man, Thanks dropping by, and guess what when
you get that uh, when you get those double digit
sacks this year and make first team All Pro, come
back and tell us somebody. Yes, sir, I appreciate you
all having thanks thanks for joining us, Broth Preacher. The
Cleveland Browns oh Joe are trading Kenny Pickett to the
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Raiders in exchange for a twenty twenty six fifth round pick,
taking twentieth overall by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the twenty
twenty two draft. Pickett has now been traded three times
in his career. That leaves the Browns with two rookies.
Dylan Gabriel and Shaw George Sanders behind starter Joe Flacco.
Stefanski has has not named Flacco's backup. The Raiders needed
(41:54):
to back up the Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
After aiding O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
He broke his wrist and he's gonna be out six
to eight weeks, so they needed to back up.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah. The Browns like, you know what, we got one? Yes, sorry,
what y'all?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
What y'all try to do what y'all try to do something?
Y'all try to do something, do something, cause right now
at one o'clock, he's the time, four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Everything needs to be taken care of. So they got
this done. I like this move.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Oh yo, I told you, yeah, I didn't see a
scenario with Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett was on this
on this roster. To better record, I didn't see that.
I didn't, So, Tim, what you think about the move? Surprised?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
No, I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Obviously, Kenny Pickett is a very, very serviceful quarterback. He
showed glimpses of being able to lead a team. Maybe
not quarterback number one, but we saw him in Pittsburgh,
we saw him in Philly when he got his opportunity
to play there, and obviously due to injuries in circumstance,
we weren't able to see much of them in Cleveland,
but obviously seeing what he could do in two other.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Spots outside of outside of Las.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Vegas where he's going to be now, and obviously learning
and sitting behind Geno Smith is a great, great, great quarterback,
quarterback number one to sit behind and learn that offense from.
And if anything goes wrong where Geno Smith goes down,
Kenney Pickett is a grace servicell quarterback that can go
in and lead the team to a couple of wins.
Obviously they have a Mary Cooper to Kobe Myers is
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upset right now, obviously wanting an extension, and I think
because of Jacobe h requesting a trade, they obviously reached
out to Mark Cooper. And Mark Cooper has some other
choices of teams he could have went to, but he
chose to go back to the Raiders for obvious reasons.
He gonna get that ball. He gonna get that ball,
and I mean that's what it is. I think it's
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a good thing, good pick up for.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Pete Carroll and he's gonna be alright. He gonna be
all right over there in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, I like the booth for both sides, reports Ojo
that Kenny Pickett, they really the Browns really like Kenny Pickett,
and they were hoping he would be the starter. But
I didn't see a scenario where you if you're keeping
four quarterbacks, you're not keeping two veterans rookies.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Now, it just did.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me,
O Joe, No, not at all, because the backup, he's
not going to be your future. He's not your he's
not your future, your future of the rookies. So if
he got if he's your backup, now you're you're taking
rep from them.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Right hey.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
And I hate when they say stuff like that too.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
On the way you just started that that that that
sentence what they wanted Kenny Pickett to be the starter. Obviously,
Kenny Pickett was the type of quarterback that was to
be a starter in the future for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
He would have been Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Mean no, no, no disrespect to him, no disrespect to him.
He would have been that there.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Yes, when you think about the makeup in the DNA
of the Cleveland Browns. They are not heavily offensive skilled
in a sentence where you can have a quarterback that
needs more talent around him to succeed, like Kenny Pikett.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Would you know, I think jo Joe Flacco is suited.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
Okay, I don't have that much talent around me offensively
because the identity for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Is their defense. No matter what, stay in the chat
trying to the Cleveland brown defense, it's very good.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
No matter what you say. You can say what you
want to say. So they wire with the right choice
in Joe Flacco. They got Jerry Judy and Joeku and
they're gonna have They're gonna have to eat Sedgi Tilman.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
They're gonna have to eat.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
They gonna yeah, They're gonna have to They're gonna have
to carry a lot of do a lot of the
heavy lifting, O Joe, a lot of it. And the
thing is is that like Joe Flacco at forty years
of age, in your eighteen what are your expectations?
Speaker 1 (45:29):
What are your expectations?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I mean, if you really go back and look at it,
Joe Flacco really has hasn't ever really been good.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
In the regular season. He's made a name for.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Himself in the postseason, beating an Andrew Luck, beating a
Tom Brady, beating a Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
That's where he beat. He beat Tom Brady twice in
the postseason. I say something to.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Yeah, quick, real quick. He beat Andrew Luck, he beat
Tom Brady.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
Please let the chat know and understand the teams and
the talent that was surrounding him.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yes he did those.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Let's remember what that defense looked like.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Less you remember what the weapons he had on offense
looked like. Now it wasn't. It wasn't. Obviously it's a
team game. But we can't just put this all on Flacko.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Now. But he was I mean, I mean he was.
I mean he remember lod like Joe Montanna come play
with playoff times? Oh, yes, he never he.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Never showed what he's shown in the playoffs. He's never
shown that in the regular season for any length of time. Yes,
he's had good games. He's a quarterback. I mean, you
don't court to be a quarterback for a decade plus,
a starting quarterback for decade plus, oh Joe, and not
put up good numbers. So he's put up good numbers,
but nothing that would say, oh, my god, there's the
reason why Ozzie traded back into the first round that
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select Lamar Jackson. Yes, sir, so with that being said,
he beat Andrew. Look, he went to Denver, beat Peyton Manning.
He went to New England and beat Tom Brady. He
did that, and then he went on the road and
beat the San Francisco team when Colin Nick was at
his apex without outstanding defense, when they had Nabarro bowmen,
when they had Patrick Willis, when they had Smith, when
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they had those great that great team. Frank Gore running
the ball of mammoth offensive line.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
He did that.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
I'll give him credit for that, But like I said,
it's in the postseason that he's made a name, really
cut his teeth and made a name for himself because
there's really been no consistency in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
He showed you flash.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
He's like, damn, why can't we get this more more, more, more,
this Joe Flacco than the other guy.
Speaker 7 (47:29):
Listen, Joe Flacco, what are you gonna get the Browns?
He gonna give you a five six game run of wins.
You're gonna be like, holy man, he did it. He
did it two years ago.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yep, and Shaun went down.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Boy, they went on a hell of a run with
Flacko bro.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Jerry Judiet was that you Judy wasn't there?
Speaker 5 (47:48):
In Judy wasn't there? In fact that there was somebody
somebody that received it was going crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Man. Might have been Coop.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
It might be it was Coop going crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Man.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
It was the damn show was cool and see and
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
You see what happened. He came in, there was no expectations.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
They won some games, and then we started having expectations
for him, and then what happened.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Yeah, the bottom fell out.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Interceptions, Yes, yes, yes, so this I like this move
from the Browns. Now this gift Dylan Gabriel. Look, they
teld about where they have a name to back up.
We know who the backup is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I won't need a name. We already know who the
backup is going to be. Uh uh And and Dylan
gaber is going to be the backup. Is your door
when you get your reps and because you're gonna probably
be well, Dylan to be running some of the practice
some of the the opposing team's quarterback also, but excuse me,
the scout team offense. That's when your opportunity, that's when
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you show what you can do. That's why you don't
go through the motions. You take it serious. Hey, they
tell you where to go to the ball, you go
through your Hey, you go through your progressions and get
the ball where it needs to go. But in the meantime, Hey,
you get enough playbook and when your opportunity to presents itself,
you take full advantage of it.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
So the good thing and the funny thing, the good
thing for Stuart as well as Dylan Gabor as well,
is when you take the scout team reps, Hey, you're
going against the number one defense. Absolutely going against number
one defense. So yeah, obviously it's it's mental reps plus
physical reps. But it's against the best players, similar to
what you can see on a Sunday. So just not no,
(49:25):
it ain't gonna be no walk in the park man. Nope,
ain't gonna be no walking the pall.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
And I tell yo, but I read it that day,
I remember I met I remember that.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Think that was thirty five years I was rooking back
at nineteen ninety, so that's thirty five thirty six years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I remember it. I would lighten them up on yo.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Oh yeah, this my hey, this is my Sunday right
right at first day Friday, that is my Sunday. I'm
not gonna get a whole lot of reps on of offence.
I'm gonna be on special teams. This is my this
is my Sunday. Wednesday, Thursday Friday. I'm cooking. Yeah, they
take a take it easy my ass. Right, well, I'm
trying to keep it your aid as the coach then
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told me that, hey, we still cut around here. Now,
I just want y'all to know that he well, it's September.
I think I'd have made the squad coach, and I'm no,
we still cut. Yeah, oh no, oh no, I can't
now how that's gonna look. Oh, Joe, I'd have made
the team. I don't call home, Libby. I made it, Spank,
I made it, Mama, I made it. Call home, but
I made it. And then all of a sudden I
get cut. Oh nah nah, hell nah, man, I cooked it.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I was cooking. Who. I'm trying to think who we played?
We played the Raiders over the week, my rookie year. Man.
I cooked the dude so bad.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Wednesday Thursday and Friday after practice, they cut it real,
cut it, cooked it.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
Cooked.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
I was cook on you.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
I was cooking.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Hey, it's it's so funny. I didn't know.
Speaker 7 (50:50):
I didn't know the correct way to practice. I knew
one thing. Do everything special teams. I'm out there playing
around just to keep my body warm and moving.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
I'm at I'm running down on stress of teams, Scout Team.
I was, yo, I'm in year ten.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
To O is you know?
Speaker 7 (51:11):
T O is obviously on the Bengals with me, so
I'm peeping. I'm watching t Okay, Okay, this is how
he do it. Okay, that's how you do it. Scout Team.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
Come up.
Speaker 7 (51:21):
I'm taking all the reps on Scout Team to give
my number ones a look. And Too pulled me to
the side, like, what is how you practice?
Speaker 5 (51:28):
You're not supposed you got to give your body time here,
I say, T, boy, I take all the reps. This
is this is all I know.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
This how I know?
Speaker 5 (51:36):
I said, He's like, oh boy, you tripping boy. You
got to save your legs for Sunday. I say, T
I'm gonna be all right, but this is how. This
is how I've always done it. I always take the
scout team.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
So I give the number one corners the best look
depending on what they're seeing. It's like, boy, you better
than me because I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Do that early.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Early, you know, I would take a couple you know,
they's like want to get some work or something. But
as I got old, I started getting your five year six.
I ain't got nothing for your scout team.
Speaker 7 (52:04):
Real god, I didn't know my first time, thinking there
was something wrong with it. Once Tiyo got Dare, the
Cincinnati was telling me, listen, you need you need to
scale back, and look, you need toning back.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
Do what you do with the ones when we're up
offensively and you go.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Oh yeah, seven hard reps. But plus o Joe, you
taking self. You're taking one on ones too.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
See.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
I was the only tight end that took one on ones.
I never ran routes against a linebacker and anything like that.
I ran routes against the wat DB's. So I'm getting
I'm getting that and I'm getting my reps. So once
we got through, I do like five six players of
nine on seven. Mike, say eighty four go down against
some work on one on one, okay, because you know
during the court some games I split out wide, I'd
(52:48):
be in the flex position.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
But this is your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
If I could tell any rookie anything, give them any advice.
When you're running scout team, that is your Sunday. Yeah,
that is your game. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday is your Sunday.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
You approach it like that. You like that? Hey, man,
take it either No, I ain't take it either on nothing.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
When they cut that film on, they gonna see number
eighty one bus in his ass because I ain't going
home because I taking how you takeing it easy? You
want to let Okay, Hey, bro, I understand that you
a vet and you know you in your ten or
whatever the case may be. But I'm going thousand miles
an hour as hard as god to let me. Oh yeah,
and the ball gonna be coming to me too.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Cause and they was like, hey, son, he's a rookie.
So what you think that what you think they got
gonna do?
Speaker 4 (53:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
More than that?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
So you that's for sure. I don't even know what
I'm doing. I'm just I'm just following. Ay, I just
see the circle. Hey, that's where the ball going. Hey,
let me get that right there.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah,
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