October 24, 2025 • 46 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest NFL storylines of the week! Unc and Ocho react to: Russell Wilson fires back at Sean Payton, Rams LB, Byron Young, joins the show and more!
0:00 - Russell Wilson fires back at Sean Payton18:21 - Byron Young joins the show33:40 - Isaiah Rodgers calls out Vikings fans
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right, guys, we're gonna get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Russell Wilson he clapped back at his former coach Payton
after postgame comments praising Jackson Dark. Let's take a listen
to what Peyton had to say.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback.
I was talking to John Marron not too long ago,
and I said we were hoping that that change would
have happened long long after our game.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Russ tweeted back, class list but not surprised. Didn't realize
you're still bounty honey, bounty hunting fifteen plus years through
the media. Let's ride now. Sean Payton later responded today
that he was just talking about you know, he was
praising Jackson dark now. He mentioned that he had talked
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to John Mara several weeks earlier, before they even played,
before they had even made this switch. God, y'all know,
I'm ronco through and through like Sean Payton. I know
Sean Payton. We had a very very close mutual friend,
Mike Orangstein. Mike Ornstein passed away rest in peace. Yes,
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I know, Sean very well. No, you didn't have to.
Everybody knows how you feel about Russ. Russ probably feel
the same way, but would never say anything. I'm a
little surprised Russ even responded to this. It o jo,
but here's the thing. You'll only be able to take
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so much because what you see is just like they
keep going and keep going and keep going. And then
if are you weak, you're weak. So Russ responds, I
don't have a problem with what Russ said, but come
on now, o Joe, are you surprised? Russ responded, and
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are you surprised? This thing is really taking got legs
and kind of like started running on his own.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I like the fact that it has legs. I like
the fact that it has legs. Sean Payton. He already
tried Russ on the sideline. He tried Russe on the sideline,
berating him and talking trash to him, actually provoking Russ,
hoping he would break character, hoping he would show a
different side than who he actually is.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
He kept calm mild manner. Now he takes shansat him again.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, for no reason at all.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And I love Russell choirboy Wilson, but I love the
fact that he stood.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He stood up for himself.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Russell Wilson, Matthew five thirty nine.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
In the Bible, it says, turn the other chief we
this time, Rush said he and ran out of cheeks.
I'm finna clap back. I'm gonna fire back at you.
I'm finna stand up for myself.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And I like him showing some some enthusiasm.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
And and and getting in the fire for a change
instead of just letting you know, let it be Walter
off of Duck's back.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Man talk shit, Russ, It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Guess what what. Ain't no person name Shannon in the Bible,
I ain't in there. You keep talking back, taking you
cheap shots of me. I'm gonna put something on you.
Come on now, that's what Russy remember, remember, oh Joe,
come on, Rush. At some point in time, enough has
to be enough. You made your point, didn't want me,
You moved on. You have a quarterback in bow Nick
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that seems to be that he's the guy for the
Broncos future. I've gone to too. This is my second
team since I've left the Bronco. I ain't bother nobody Russ.
You can like or dislike Russ, but the one thing
that you can't say that he's not bothering anybody.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
He's not talking down, He's not saying anything negative about anybody.
So my thing is why.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Mm hmm, hey, uncle, let me say, Uncle Joe Russell Wilson.
If you want to talk about quarterbacks and the way
to conduct yourself as a professional athlete on and off
the field. He's a consonate pro. He is the ultimate
pro when it comes to doing your job, going to work,
being a family man, being a husband, doing everything the
right way. The fact that he finally got outside of
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his character for a change is exciting for me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I enjoy it because now listen, at some point, you
gotta you gotta put a nail in the coffin.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Because you don't put a nail in the coffin, they
gonna keep diggy your grave.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I agree, they gonna, they gonna.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
They gonna keep They gonna keep on diggy your grave
and keep digging at you for no reason. There's no
reason for and I know Sean Payton as well, there's
no reason for you to do you know, do that.
But you understood, listen, I gotta I gotta sit duck.
I got a easy duck.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
He ain't gonna say nothing, he ain't gonna fire back.
But finally we get a new Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I love this Russe Wilson and Russell I know you're
gonna see this. Anybody else say something, you better fire.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Off of the ass too. Go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I agree with both of y'alls. I think you know,
you know, I think russ is more so, like you know,
enough is enough. Man, he ain't said nothing. He's been
going by this way, you know, tending to his business,
and they still taking chief shots, said him. I'm with him, man,
I'm glad, he responded. I'm glad he said something. Be petty, betty,
go back at him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It doesn't matter how mild matter a person is. Eventually,
eventually you look at I mean, you look at any animal.
It might be even even the dog. Might you see it.
But after a while he's gonna lash out at you.
It's going to a lash out because it's only going
to take so much, so he Russ felt that, Okay,
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former teammates have been taking shots at him, you know, X,
Y and Z and said all these things, and now
he's like, bro, how much how much more? How much
more crap? Do y'all want to dump on me? And say, man,
y'all just pouring perfume on me? Listen, because at some
point in time, Ojoe, enough is enough. You made your point. Okay, Okay,
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I'm fine. I get it. I get it. I didn't
I didn't live up to the expectations that I had,
the coaching staff, the organization, or the fan base of Denver.
I didn't meet those expectations. I accept that, but I'm gone.
There's no need. There's no reason for you to mention.
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You can praise Jackson Dark without taking a dump on me.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Absolutely absolutely, Hey, look.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Praise, praise your guy, But why would you have to
take a shot at me? And you, like I said,
he said that he was just praised to Jackson Dark.
But you said that you had talked to John Marraw,
who's one half of the owner of the Giants, weeks ago.
Even if he had done that, he could have kept
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that to himself. He didn't have to share that. So
he didn't have to share that, Ojo, John, Joe, he
could he could have just said what he said, like
you know, and maybe with his coaching staff or with
his close buddies when he's having a drink.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I told you, I told John.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I was like, man, I hope y'all make that, make
that change after us, because it's just a matter of time.
Cool and nobody the way Jackson started is playing. I
don't think anybody is upset that they made this move.
I told O Joe, I said, O Joe, over under
eight week, I said, I'm looking like that. I'm taking
the under. OO just saiding down. I said, I'm taking
the under because I had seen enough in I've seen
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enough in the preseason. I said, Oh Joe, they're gonna
make this this, make this change sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah. Yeah, but I just don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, the continuation of beating down Russ it's unnecessary.
I know you're excited, Joe. You know, we win a game. Oh, Yoe,
we win a game. Yeah we hate them, sorry, yeah
we beat them, sorry raft Yeah, but y'all had them,
didn't thirty three In the fourth thirty three. I get
all that, but come on, now, wins enough enough?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
O yoe? How how how much am I supposed to take?
I like it? Hey.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Matter of fact, he should have cursed in a tweet.
I should have cursed go go all the way there.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It wasn't enough for you.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Now listen, I like it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He listened.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He fired back, but he fired back in a professional manner. Absolutely,
come on, man, hey, Russ, next time, man man, man
what I put?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Let me put your tweet together. I put your tweet
together for you.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Hell dog, hey listen.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
But but what was it about? Why would Sean Payton
bring that up? Honestly? Like, when did they have to
do with anything?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Listen, this is all about the privileges that was bestowed
the pun Russ. Before Sean Payton got there, I said
some things and everybody called me a lie. I was
talking to me and oh Joe and I was having
a conversation, and everybody wanted to tell me, Shanna, you
don't know what's going on because you're not there. I say,
you do, realize I'm still held in very very hired
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alright in Denver. You actually think I would say something
like this and it not be the gospel. I say, hey,
I'm Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. When I speak about
something coming out of Denver or Baltimore, it's the gospel.
I don't really talk too much about it because they know.
But they try to undermine me. They try to say,
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you not in the locker room, or you don't know
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But y'all don't.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Realize how often I call around the league and a
lot of things that's going on that get reported. That
ain't my job. I ain't Adam Schefter. I don't try
to be. I'm not Jay Glazer. I don't try to be.
But I know a lot more than what I say.
And when it comes out like they got mad, I
said it. Sean got there when the organ when they
were explaining the privileges that Russ got Sean like, are
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you hitting me?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's like no, You're like, that's like, no, that is
not normal protocol. Nobody in the history had ever had
a situation like that. And from that point on, once
he heard that it was over, he would have needed
to throw for fifty touchdowns four thousand yards and get
him to the AFC Championship. Other than that it wasn't
gonna work. So instead of trying to listen to what
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I was trying to say, try to explain what was
transpiring and why so many people were out on Russ
in Denver. They wanted to talk about, Oh, you're talking
bad about a black man. You wouldn't say that about
a white guy when I had called Tom, when I
had called Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Tony Romo
and Aaron Rodgers and all these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But see long as I'm talking about them, is fine.
All I was saying. I didn't say Russ was a
bad person. I said he got.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Privileges and it made his teammates feel a certain type
of ways. O, Joe, we know who makes the money,
but just because you make more money, we don't want
you getting privileges. We don't want you having offices that
none of us like hold on.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Really.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, So from that point on, Sean felt some type
of way. He felt some type of way.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And I get it. I get it, But that man
been gone for two years now, it's time to let
that go. Yeah, yeah, Joe, you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's the same thing with Melo and George Carl George
Carr keep on poking Mellow Melo. Don't mention George Carl,
but every chance he gets, he tries to poke Mellow.
Melo's gonna have to look. Melo's gonna have to draw
a line in the sand and say, mo for if
you step across this line again, and I'm gonna have
to unleash.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
You know, he ain't got no problem doing that. You know,
Mello ain't got no problem drawing that line.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
He's gonna have to because every time, every time he's
always speaking negative. All They couldn't win no championship with
that guy. He wouldn't play defense, he wouldn't do this.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You don't like Mello. Everybody is not gonna like everybody,
But Bro, you hadn't coach Mellow and damn near two decades.
What what is the issue now?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Can we just move on?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I mean, obviously at that point it'd be better if
coaches come out, especially when they continue to do this
and they have things to say years removed from from
dealing or coaching a certain.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Individual, Why don't you just come out and say, you
know what, I don't even like this individual, and it's personal.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It had nothing to do with the sport that had
nothing to do with basketball, had nothing to do with football,
nothing to do with him playing quarterback or whatever it
may be.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I just don't like him, and that's okay. It would
it would be better suited for us as a public
and fans of.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
These sports to come out and have Sean pay say,
you know what, I just don't like Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I don't know. I don't know what it is about him.
I just don't like him, or George carl.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I don't like Carmelo, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What's understood don't need to be spoken. Yeah you know, Yeah, man,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, if if if, if, if somebody continuously cheating on
the other party.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What does he need to say? What does she need
to say? You keep doing what you're doing when you
know it's wrong. I don't need to I don't need
no no harbor to turn it to try to read
between the lines. Yes, you're telling me the mere fact
that you keep taking shots at me publicly. It's one
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thing if it's getting back to me o Jo. But
the mere fact that you're putting it in print, the
mere fact that you keep saying it publicly. I can
read it for myself. I can see it for myself.
Tells me that how you feel about me.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But I didn't. I already knew that. I'm like, I've been.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Trying to take the high road, try to remain remain professional.
I'm trying to build a brand. I don't want to
do anything to tarnish that. But hey, bro, I understand
that's not what you are. You don't try to build
a brand. You're not really on television. People go to
you when they want to get they want to get clicks,
they want to get a rage bait material. They'll come
to you and you'll say something Melloe is wanted to
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seventy five greatest players they ever play in the NBA.
We understand what Melo is now. He's a Hall of Famer.
So automatically, if somebody says something negative that's gonna get
picked up, that is Mellow, that's his former coach. I
just don't I just don't get it. We don't have
to like all of our teammates. We don't have to
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like all of our coaches. I've had I had a
great relationship with all the coaches. Maybe one or two
I didn't really jive with and yeah, it's okay, but
I would never say anything publicly. Absolutely, Hey, look your teammate.
It's only so much, bro, it's only so yeah, bro, Bro,
I'm fifty seven, I got grands now. But what I'm
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talking about, what happened twenty five thirty years ago? For
what purpose does that serve in a negative night? Yes?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Yeah, none at all, None at all. I mean, listen,
I get along with everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'd assume I try to.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I'd assume everybody loves me the same way.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I sure love.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
There's only one person I don't get along with. And uh,
if I ever see him, it's it's on site. And
huh would you say, Joe, who is that? You don't
want to say you don't want James Harrison?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah like that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It's it's personal, it's personally and I say I say
it every day and I let him know I can't
wait to see him.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Obviously he doesn't live here in Miami. But the only
place I probably see him maybe super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, I'm sure we're probably cross we'll cross pass maybe
you know, Radio Row or some ship like that, and
either he gonna have security or it's it's just gonna
be a thumping session.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Ojo. I don't know if you want to climb that tree.
Many one thing. One thing about me.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Hey, hey, let me tell you something. Hey, Joe, in
high school, they call me Paul Bunyan.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You hear me.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I used to Hey, I'm chopping every I'm chopping everything
down all trees.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Hey, hey, hey, as you play a partner, man, I'm listen,
you might want your pass on that one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
He a Joe brush up in the NFL. Knowledge what
you wanna know? Ive seen. I'm just saying because I
might need a new partner, Okay, Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Hey. The fact that y'all don't have no faith in
me man, y'all not y'all not Christians.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
He Hey, I'm basically saying, you're gonna be concussed. You're
gonna be out. You're gonna be out for the rest
of us.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
We gotta look, we got other we got other business
ventures that we're trying to get to choke.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Oh, We're gonna get there, no matter what. We're gonna
do that, no.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Matter what I mean. If you can't talk for like
six but I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Be man, trust me, I'm gonna be okay. Listen, if
you see me in a fight with a bell, you
might want to help the bell.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He Joe, I don't need no partner. He moved in
the chail like this here.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I can't use no partner like that. I need a
real partner, somebody to gonna laugh and joke and get
up out of the chail.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Hey, hey, Joe, I got I got a question. What's
your game playing though? Like, what'll y'all getting in the
oxa gun? What y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Listen, listen, octagon, street boxing ring, It don't matter on sight,
it don't matter. Joe, Like I'm I'm at that point,
like I'm kind of frustrated because I keep challenging him
and he really don't want no smoke.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
He's not responding. That lets me know. I mean all
that size and muscle don mean nothing.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Hey, from me to you, bro, keep your distance, stick
and move, don't.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
That's hey, Joe, That's what I'm gonna do. Joe, Hey,
look look at my ring.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know I'm gonna keep him out of distance.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Joe, Like I might, I might get me arranging that
and get close.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Up on him. No, don't do that. Don't do that. No,
don't keep that distance you that jam you got you
that damn baby.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Hey, Joe, use that thing, Joe, I'm gonna use it.
I'm telling you, man, listen, I'm listen, hey, one thing
about it.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
On my side, God on my side. You hear me,
And I'm on your side.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I mean, but y'all sound like y'all ain't on my side.
Y'all tell me I'm gonna be hurting, I ain't gonna
be able to talk.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And yeah, it ain't gonna be ain't looking good. But no,
what we try to do, o Joe, we're trying to
keep you safe.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I'm safe when I get in the car, I put
my seat belt on.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You gotta man.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Official guests joining us tonight tied for the league league
in sacks with nine. A third round pick out of
the University of Tennessee volunteer, he grew up the youngest
of thirteen siblings. Wow, Byron Young Rams Los Angeles, Bro.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
How you doing, I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Man.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Appreciate you men.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I appreciate you coming on you on one side, Jerry
Burst on the other. You got the big guy pushing
collapse in the pocket how fun is it rush the
pastor in that situation because it first come, first served.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You know, you got to get off because verse on
the other side.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's always a you know, racial quarterback.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
You know, I seem like this, you know, saying, you know,
meet me there and beat me there, you know, having
right and Kobe turned in the middle with Jared versus
on the other end, you know, you have no choice,
better get off.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
So you know, they just motivate me and pushed me
to go harder.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I was reading the story back in twenty eighteen. You
were working the ship at Burger Kingean Dollar General. You
saw a flyer on the store bulletin board. It's like
Georgia Military College holding open trials for football. Yeah, hold on,
You're like, hold on, man, let me take this this
April this it's fried cap off and get back.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So did you play football in high school?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Yes, sir, I played in high school. I just I
just really went recruited for real. Really nah, yeah, so
you go, so you go, you go trial.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
So so what what did have you do?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You had to run drill, you had to run a
forty So what did you want? What did you what
did this tryout in compass.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Basically it was the forty kind of like what you said,
you had to do the bench press at two twenty five,
you had to do like change directions and like they
basically doing like measurements. Yeah, I want to see where
you were at. And that was kind of like it
for the most part, it was like one hundred one hundred.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Guys there were you the only one that made it?
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Uh, I was I was the only one that.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Made it off the spot, So like it was the
other guys that got called back because you kind of
it's like two tryingouts. You kind of like have the
second try in the spring when you kind of have
spring ball. But I was like, you want to make
the team from that though.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Wow, Hey, most of the time you're growing up too.
Obviously in the NFL you play defense in when you
were younger, what position did you play? I know, I
know you want to play dn back then now I
played running back. What you were toting that ball you
were to the p oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
I played running back all through high school. That's why
I've always been fans.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Right, So, at what point did you did your body
did did your body you know, grow into actually, now
I can be on the defensive side of the ball,
and you got a little bigger.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Well, actually, my senior year, like I always like dig
in high school. With my senior year, I played both
sides and I played a stand up linebacker my senior
year high school. So that's kind of like transition after that.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Are you from Georgia?
Speaker 8 (21:24):
No, I'm from Georgetown, but I moved to Georgia after
I graduated high school Georgetown, South Carolina, Georgetown, South Carolina.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
As a matter of fact, you know what, I got
a look, I got a small look. You ain't know this, right,
see a b Why you ain't know I know this?
You and Melissa Jefferson come from the same small town too.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Yeah, we went to the we went to the same
high school. It was on the same track team. Ah
but you ran track too, Yeah I ran track my
senior year.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Wait what what what?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What race?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The four point one? Okay, okay, okay, so you you
you you get called so how did you? How did
you end up at Tennessee.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Honestly, that was the first power of fire School to
offer me. So really, yes, sir, yes it was. I
feel like it was a sign from God. So you know,
I just went with them.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So man and you, hey you got a playing the NCC.
So was that always your dream to play in the NFL?
You just had a took a little detour, It took
you a little while, but hey, you ended up where
you ended up, and you got the ultimately your ultimate destination.
Was that always your goal? So what would what did
Byron wanted to be when he was brought up, when
he was a kid, he was eight, nine, ten years
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of age? What did you want to be?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I always wanted to be in an NFL. I always
wanted to go in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
I'll be lying to you if I told you that
I just knew this this would have happened, like based
off my journey. But like my mindset was, I just
never wanted to quit, you know, always like wanted to
somehow get back into playing football. But I really just
didn't know how that would look, like, you know, growing up,
like just being around a lot of people that really
didn't really make it to the NFL. So it's kind
of hard to kind of navigate and find your ways
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through there. So like you know, it was just unpredictable.
But I always trump said.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Wow, that's that.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Man, that's a unbelieve that's an unbelievable story. So you
get your soul, you go to University of Tennessee, you
have an outstanding collegiate career, and now it's draft.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So what were the scouts telling you? Did you know
you go?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Did they tell you, okay, you might be a first
round pick, you could be a late first round pick,
early second Did they.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Tell you day one, day two?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
What?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
What?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
What were you hearing when you were coming out?
Speaker 8 (23:23):
I was really hearing day two. Some said possibly day three,
but mostly it was day two. My biggest knock was
my age, So I was like an older guy, like
how mature I was with my age. So it really
was always day two, but possibly day three because of that.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So you found the home now rushing the passer. Uh,
this is your third year, right, yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So you did you get? So you got one year
with a D, got one year with ad man? Can
you do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You sit back and thinks, say, man, can I imagine
me verse a D right now, knowing what I know now, first,
knowing what he knows now, and you're talking about arguably
the greatest defensive tackle to ever played, one of the
five greatest defensive players, and the way our offense can
score and be we ahead, and now I just get
to hunt the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
They got the double ninety nine, they got to.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Well I think about that every day.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
I just feel like I took something, you know, something
I feel like I took it for granted a little
bit about rookie year, but I just said I was learning,
you know, I was growing.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
But like now, I just look back at my thirty year.
I was like, man, if we if you could.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
Have had him too, you know, you know, you know,
I'm just thankful that I had one year, you know,
with him and him you know, teaching me things and
you know, just just being my mentor and.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So almost some of the things that he taught you.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So to watch him, obviously he plays the three to five,
it's a different you mainly edge, you're on the edge
normally occasionally you put your hand in dirt. Would you
like to rush the passer from a stand up position.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Sir, Oh yeah, oh yeah, stand up kind of was
doing that tendency for the most part. That's why I
kind of started dropping though, So yeah, stand them outside linebacker.
But you know, in with Ad and some of the
things he kind of taught me just be patient. You know,
I feel like as a rookie, you're always trying to
be perfect, you always not trying to make mistakes. So
I feel like, coming in, let's stress so much about
like I'm trying to be perfect. I'm not trying to
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do this wrong. And you know, he always just said,
you know, just be patient, just let it come to you.
You know, like you're going to make mistakes and just
learn from them. But you know, that was something that
always stuck with me.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And so coming into the season, obviously, would it been
your third year, Obviously you have team goals, but have
your personal goals obviously, I'm sure the Saxon in.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The director you.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Are on right now.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
So far this season, are there any other goals you
had set in mind from an individual's perspective going into
the season.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Oh, oh, definitely making my first Pro Bowl, you know,
being All Pro. You know, that's that's always been a
dream come true for me. You know, that's something I
always wanted, you know, just you know, just watching the
guys that I looked up to, like Bond Miller and
those guys like that, Like one of my favorite players
ever and just watch how they just go about Bennison,
you know, every year making the Pro Bowl, and it's
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just like, that's something I always wanted to do. So
come into you know, my third year. My goal is
you know, are feel of course as a team make
it to the Super Bowl. But for myself all Pro
you know, Pro Bowl, you know, and Defense Player of
the Year. That's why I look at That's why I'm
reaching you know, every every day I work. That's why,
you know, that's why I'm trying to accomplish you you.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Know, be why the easiest thing you'll do is make
it to the Pro Bowl once.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Now what happens when they get that, you know what
we're gonna sit our game plan to be Why now
we slide the protection. Now we have the back chip
on his way out. Now we have the tight end
that chip on his way out. Now the second Pro Bowl,
the third Pro Bowls, those are the ones that get
hard because now they know what you can do, and
now you have expectations for yourself. The fans, management, they
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have greater expectations because they saw what you've done. You
gone to the Pro Bowl. You're like, hey, I got
nine sacks. Hold on, I think we got one, two, three, five, six, seven, eight, man,
we got nine more, we got nine ten games.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Hold on, I get a sack a game, get a
couple of two sacks games, but I can't get twenty sacks. Yeah,
and now you're like, oh, twenty sacks.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Hey, they don't have to come see if they.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Beat Bucks for twenty sacks twenty see you. Hey, Hey,
I go by, I can go back about all of Georgetown.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Stand standing? What unk stand? Cronky?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, tell stand? We want forty nine a year.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, hey fifty.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So so coming into the sea, obviously you know your
third year. What are some of the things you work on? Look,
you got great get off obviously you can convert speed
the power. So so what what what was you working
on in Because each year you work on something to
try to improve, to get better. Because sometimes the moves
that you work worked on that work this year, it
might not work. I'm not getting rid of them, but
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I got to have another trick in my bag that
I need to pull out, especially when I got to
get off the field. We got to make sure we
get off the field. We got to make sure we
keep them out of field goal range. We got to
make sure we keep them out of the end zone.
So what were some of the things that you was
working on this this off season?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Be why?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Uh, you know, just going into my third year, just
looking back at my first two years, I just feel
like I wanted to take a different approach. So I
took on you know plates, I started doing at these
three days out the week.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Just to build my body and you know, just break
that core, get flexible.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Yeah, working them a little must you know what I'm saying,
for longevity and stuff like that, and the help event injury.
So I feel like doing pilate's definitely helped my body
type and helped me being able to dig then getting
off the ball faster, you know, flexibility and everything been
in the corner, you know how I do.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So it's like those some of the things that I
was doing.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
I was really consistent at it, and I feel like
I've seen the different things that helped and just putting
it it should work, you know, getting more, get off,
working my technique more, getting more film studies, studying myself,
you know, and studying what I lacked last my last
two years. And I was just trying to improve from that.
So my goal every time I step on the field
is improved, you know, something that I didn't do good yesterday,
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whether it's get whether it's faster, whether it use my hands,
you know, whether I always try and just like get
better at something, you know, every predice.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
So that's kind of my approach. That was taking ot
as and count Then.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You guys still run the hoop that circle that you know,
you try to run it and stay as low as
you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Y'all still do that.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Well, we we kind of do that. We kind of
do something else with the medicine ball. We like have
the medicine ball. We kind of fill up our hips,
but we kind of like do it around the whole hoop.
But we don't I know what you're talking about. We
don't really do that too much.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So when at the end of this season, look, hey
your third round pick. Oh, they got to come see
you after.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
This year, We got to come see you.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Be why.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So you're going crazy? You really try to leave.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm gonna get this twinty piece out here.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Hey, I'm saying that's that's that's always to go to,
just say, you know, trying to get to that second deal.
So I'm definitely working for them for sure. That's sir, sir.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Man, congratulations on all your success, man, I mean it wasn't.
Let me ask you this, the youngest of thirteen? How
many how many how many brothers?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
How many? How many boys? How many girls?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Now boys and all four girls?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And you the youngest.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
I'm the youngest.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, man, Mom and pop wasn't playing.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Day.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So so I've been talking about.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So when y'all get Georgetown, so y'all eat some of
anything down there? I know about that low country? Yeah, yeah,
all the hogs are y'all put everything in the plot.
They call it pot. Look, Joe, they put it all
in the pot. You love if it don't kill you.
But they're gonna eat.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Good Nah, no thanks when you go back home.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So, so, was it like, so you go to the NFL,
is there anybody from Georgetown? How close to Georgetown? The
monk's going to the huh like Somerville and charge that?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How close do you do that?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Standing like an hour away? Fay, it's not it's not too.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Any Is there any for hold on? I think where
I think jump together from down your way?
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:23):
Yeah, that's my family. That's from Chumpy. They's from around
and winning Georgetown too.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah I played with Jumpy, Yeah yeah, I played with
your man Jumpy. Who lord jumping the country is?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Hey, I don't know what he had, but he had
some stuff in the green bottle. He rub it on
his knee, rub it on his ankle, and then drink it.
You talking about you want to try somebody say, nah,
I'm good. You know my need don't hurt no more
different for sure, you got home remedies like that.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
I mean, not like that, but we got some stuff
that we do. But that was yeah, I ain't never
that's right, way back in the day.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, hey, b why thanks for joining us, man, continue success,
stay healthy and.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You lead the league in sacks. Come back and tell
us how you did it.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
I said, I appreciate your man.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Thank god, we appreciate you coming man, Get some rest,
stay healthy, best to love the rest of the year. Hey,
this off season staying crocking. Give you that five year
one seventy five, two hundred, two hundred.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We need to. I ain't say no boat. I ain't
gonna say no boat. I got jack. You broke good
luck the best, right, thank you? Bad hold on, let
me use the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Go ahead, man, that's what he's a You can see
he's a very You can tell he's mature, and you know,
and you see now you see, you hear what they
say because of his age. Now you see why them
guys try to get out of school early, because they
hold that against you, because they look at it like,
if you're that good, why are you still in school?
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They used the man age against it. Now he got
an ad. He gonna hit that jackpot though. He gonna
get paid and deservedly. So I love people that you know,
he's a fighter. Come from Georgetown, not a whole lot
you know going on down there. But he's like, hey,
same thing with Melissa and and to see where he's
where he came from, and and and to to see
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where he's headed. Man, he seems so mature. He seems
like he got you know, he's he's well grounded. And man,
I'm I'm excited. I'm excited to see what this season
and what of them folds for moo.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
O Joe.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Isaiah Rodgers had a bad day on the football field again.
For seventy nine yard touchdown to uh Devonte Smith, he
gave up a touchdown to uh A. J. Brown and
his dms were was on floe but nothing calls him
deserved it. Look at what he said, Uh, we got
it up on the screen. Go effing it face you
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f and suck f and third down you know it's
a past. You just gave the Eagles to win. Good
f face. You know with all that fail, if they
really want to get up fun of your skin, you know,
they go, they got they gotta put that in in there.
They gotta put that, They gotta put that with the Uh,
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you're worse than Hitler. He would have never been picked
up worth a piece of crap waste of air n
word again.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Oh man, hey that's funny, boy, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
And listen at this day and age as grown.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oh yeah, you go out with Joe Dinny. Then he's like,
all right, bro, my bad, just lock in nah nah
no no the leader, now, don't get the name, no
what you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Are just no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You should have just that's what you should have said
at first. Yeah, come on, bro, lock in nah what
you want to get all that on?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
You understand the climate we in? You understand the climate
we in. They're fans when you're playing well. When you're
not playing well, they they'll tell you. They'll tell you
and talk talk to you truly how you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yes, that's all.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
It's it's the world we live in.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
But once you realize, once you realize about yo, they
applaud what you do, not who you are, You're find
the mistake is that they applaud what you do, not
who you are.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
And listen, they're not a fan of you. They're a
fan of the team that you happen to play for exactly.
And then guess what, because that's how he really feel.
Because when I get up, what I.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Get up said, the first thing that I go through
when I get somebody, the first thing I ain't thinking
the most What is the worst thing that I know?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Oh I.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Or that is what I do?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
But they try to go what what's the lowest thing?
What is the most hurtful thing that I can say?
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But I can get a rise out of said individual,
And you can get a rise now, can get a
rise at it? He probably see I said, Rogers, what's up? Rogers? Hey?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
What up?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bad cook? Dapping him up? I just I just don't
get it.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I mean, I don't know how other people react to
what words, stuff type. Let that stuff bother me. I
can care less and going one.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, did you did you get this? What did they
have a?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Did they have Twitter? And I g when you played
for the end of my career?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I didn't care.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I don't care. I don't care what you say. Oh yeah,
I understand the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I understand even though you can't see it, the way
people feel it's still out there.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh yeah, for sure, and understand that so well. They
got the way they gotta, they gotta, they gotta. They
got a black car that have unlimited access to say
whatever you want to. Now, in the climate that we're
in now, whereas divisive as we've ever been as a country,
I don't see it getting any better on the horizon.
I stay in my lane. I ain't got tired and
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arguing with y'all. I'm not going back and forth with y'all.
I know how y'all feel about me. I'm gonna stay
in my I'm gonna keep it moving, go ahead. But
I've been very I've been very blessed. Oo is that
when I've traveled and you and I both travel a
lot of the work. Everybody is great. I haven't met
with that one person. It's the people that hide behind
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their computer screen.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You know. Everybody got everybody got thumb muscles. What kind
of muscles? Thumb muscles? Because they tight, real, real tough.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
That's funny. Damn man.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, I'm sorry. I know what I did was wrong
and I should never done that. Why you shouldn't never
done so now your boss might see that. It might
cost you your job.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Change your tone up real quick.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah he didn't put your name. Oh he lucky.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
He could have been messy too.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Now you got messy. That's that's a part of it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's always been so Think about this on Joe, that's
because he played bad. You used to get this just
because you were that color. Think about if he if
he went through this. Think about what Jackie obviously went through.
Think about what all the black players went through. Think
about they had a rule to end up. I'n't even say. Look,
but they used to be in the NFL. They wouldn't
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a love black players then, But we go to we
ain't gonna talk about that, o yo. Think about that
just because just because I hadn't done anything. I just
want to I just want to make a living.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I want to feed my kids, that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah. When he picked up the yeah. The statement from
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
We are disgusted by the racial slurs director that Isaiah
Rogers following yesterday's game. As we have said previously, there's
simply no room for racist words or action in sports
or society. We support Isaiah and all players who unfortunately
experience this type of ignorant and prejudicial behavior far too often,
and we ask god fans to continue to fight to
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eliminate racism.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yes, we've been putting out quotes and speeches and putting
uh symbols, logos and slogans, paying the street and you,
oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Love overhete and racism, all that other stuff that ain't
if it ain't going nowhere, it ain't going nowhere. I
just how you treat how you treat me. I understand it.
I know you don't like me, Okay, I ain't. We
ain't got to deal with each other. We ain't got
to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You, oh Joe. If I know somebody doesn't like me,
why do I Why Why would I go? Why would
I go? To anything that that person is having. Why
would I get I don't follow people that don't like me.
I don't go to their page. That's what I don't get.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
You.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Oh, you don't like something that I said you on
my pay I didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
That I don't get it? I don't and I never would.
You know what, donut, yo?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Everything is not meant to be understood. I mean I
had to learn to understand the history of it.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
You know it's not going where I understand it.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, you know, you know you have something that you
you have some that are genuinely not like that, genuinely
not like that, don't have a hate and a bad
bone in ay body, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I think you know the thing is obviously clearly I've
been I've been retired two decades and none of this
was out when I was done. But I'm not so
sure I would have been on social media when I
played the season. I had had a singular focus and
and you know, look, I everybody wasn't happy. Everybody's not going.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
To be happy for you.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
But oh Joe, when you went to Pittsburgh, you expect
the little tell me I saw, just keep it, just
keep it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Just keep it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Hey, we're gonna keep everything above the belt. No low blows.
You ain't gonna call me in. You ain't gotta talk
about my mom.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
And stuff like that. All that ain't necessary.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Because you and I both know if I'm walking down
the street, you ain't gonna say, hey en all that
stuff that you say on Twitter and that you're all
tough about y'all, I'm not gonna say dad, Y'ALLM not.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Now, at least I haven't met anybody people. Look, can
I can my son take a picture with you? I mean,
I get some time. Hey, bro, I don't want to
take no pictures. And O Joe. You'll see him do this,
hit the thing, hit the turnaround on the camera and
still try to snap it.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yes, Oh, you be sitting there, you see O Joe
And all of a sudden they putend like that like
they looking at something. I'm looking just like, oh, y'all,
I'm just like this here. I'm like, really, bro, you're
not gonna ask you just gonna take it without my permission. Hey,
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oh Joe, I was in there, George was. George was
with me the other day. So this guy coming to
be like, man, can I take a picture.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I was like, Bro, He's like, uh, I don't normally
do this, so why are you doing it?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I said, well, how many famous or semi famous people
people you see in the airport?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I've never seen anybody. That's why you don't do it.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
He makes it seem like he just he just he
walking down day on drive and see ain't list celebrities
and he passing them up.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But he said, yeah, I don't normally do this.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I said, well, how many you know, famous people of
semi famous people you see in the airport. I've really
never seen no one. I said, well, that's probably why
you don't do it. And a random persons not gonna
let you take no picture with him.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
And so it's so funny with people. People say, I
normally don't do this. Listen, I hate to bother you.
Oh hey, I hate to bother you, but I'm finna
bother you anyway. Basically, yeah, just take the picture.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
But they wait till they get done eating. I'm just
about to eat, so they getting ready to leave out. Yo,
I'm at the gym. They done got their work out in.
You mind if I get a picture, Well, let me
get my work out in like you got yours in
and we get one afterwards. How you gonna get your
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work out in finish up? Then you're gonna interrupt my workout.
You didn't interrupt your workout now when you was working out. Now,
one time you say could you get a picture cause
you focused? Don't get your work out now, I'm trying
to get mine in you mind if I get a picture?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah, hey, listen.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Blurred enough.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
If you catch me in public, you're good, You're good,
you good.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Young.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
I'll be having people feeling like got him went to
high school, like I got people feeling like it's a
goddamn high school reunion, like we went to school together.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Some ship.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I put deportment. I'll be in and out. Hey, you
missed around. I don't really go around to stop me.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Boy, we'll be sitting there talking for twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
M hm. I ain't got that kind of time.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Because uh, we and her, we get we get from
point A to point B, Jordan and I, Hey, I'm
in a hurry, o Joe, because the last thing the boy,
I missed my flight. I mean one time we all
missed the flight. We're coming from Houston. Then we went
to uh the Salt Lake remember they diverted this to
Sault Lake.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, yes, better fall out of lane.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
And Shelley was on the thing. Shelley was book had
already to book this on another flight. So what Shelley,
You know, she booked the fly she'll book book one
flight in then after flight and then if we get
that one, she'll cancel. You know, he'll cancel it. But man,
I was like, man, what the flights? Man, they got
to do better than this.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right, guys, we're gonna get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Russell Wilson he clapped back at his former coach Payton
after postgame comments praising Jackson Dark. Let's take a listen
to what Peyton had to say.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback.
I was talking to John Marron not too long ago,
and I said we were hoping that that change would
have happened long long after our game.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Russ tweeted back, class list but not surprised. Didn't realize
you're still bounty honey, bounty hunting fifteen plus years through
the media. Let's ride now. Sean Payton later responded today
that he was just talking about you know, he was
praising Jackson dark now. He mentioned that he had talked
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to John Mara several weeks earlier, before they even played,
before they had even made this switch. God, y'all know,
I'm ronco through and through like Sean Payton. I know
Sean Payton. We had a very very close mutual friend,
Mike Orangstein. Mike Ornstein passed away rest in peace. Yes,
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I know, Sean very well. No, you didn't have to.
Everybody knows how you feel about Russ. Russ probably feel
the same way, but would never say anything. I'm a
little surprised Russ even responded to this. It o jo,
but here's the thing. You'll only be able to take
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so much because what you see is just like they
keep going and keep going and keep going. And then
if are you weak, you're weak. So Russ responds, I
don't have a problem with what Russ said, but come
on now, o Joe, are you surprised? Russ responded, and
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are you surprised? This thing is really taking got legs
and kind of like started running on his own.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I like the fact that it has legs. I like
the fact that it has legs. Sean Payton. He already
tried Russ on the sideline. He tried Russe on the sideline,
berating him and talking trash to him, actually provoking Russ,
hoping he would break character, hoping he would show a
different side than who he actually is.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
He kept calm mild manner. Now he takes shansat him again.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, for no reason at all.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And I love Russell choirboy Wilson, but I love the
fact that he stood.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He stood up for himself.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Russell Wilson, Matthew five thirty nine.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
In the Bible, it says, turn the other chief we
this time, Rush said he and ran out of cheeks.
I'm finna clap back. I'm gonna fire back at you.
I'm finna stand up for myself.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And I like him showing some some enthusiasm.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
And and and getting in the fire for a change
instead of just letting you know, let it be Walter
off of Duck's back.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Man talk shit, Russ, It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Guess what what. Ain't no person name Shannon in the Bible,
I ain't in there. You keep talking back, taking you
cheap shots of me. I'm gonna put something on you.
Come on now, that's what Russy remember, remember, oh Joe,
come on, Rush. At some point in time, enough has
to be enough. You made your point, didn't want me,
You moved on. You have a quarterback in bow Nick
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that seems to be that he's the guy for the
Broncos future. I've gone to too. This is my second
team since I've left the Bronco. I ain't bother nobody Russ.
You can like or dislike Russ, but the one thing
that you can't say that he's not bothering anybody.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
He's not talking down, He's not saying anything negative about anybody.
So my thing is why.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Mm hmm, hey, uncle, let me say, Uncle Joe Russell Wilson.
If you want to talk about quarterbacks and the way
to conduct yourself as a professional athlete on and off
the field. He's a consonate pro. He is the ultimate
pro when it comes to doing your job, going to work,
being a family man, being a husband, doing everything the
right way. The fact that he finally got outside of
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his character for a change is exciting for me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I enjoy it because now listen, at some point, you
gotta you gotta put a nail in the coffin.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Because you don't put a nail in the coffin, they
gonna keep diggy your grave.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I agree, they gonna, they gonna.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
They gonna keep They gonna keep on diggy your grave
and keep digging at you for no reason. There's no
reason for and I know Sean Payton as well, there's
no reason for you to do you know, do that.
But you understood, listen, I gotta I gotta sit duck.
I got a easy duck.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
He ain't gonna say nothing, he ain't gonna fire back.
But finally we get a new Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I love this Russe Wilson and Russell I know you're
gonna see this. Anybody else say something, you better fire.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Off of the ass too. Go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I agree with both of y'alls. I think you know,
you know, I think russ is more so, like you know,
enough is enough. Man, he ain't said nothing. He's been
going by this way, you know, tending to his business,
and they still taking chief shots, said him. I'm with him, man,
I'm glad, he responded. I'm glad he said something. Be petty, betty,
go back at him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It doesn't matter how mild matter a person is. Eventually,
eventually you look at I mean, you look at any animal.
It might be even even the dog. Might you see it.
But after a while he's gonna lash out at you.
It's going to a lash out because it's only going
to take so much, so he Russ felt that, Okay,
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former teammates have been taking shots at him, you know, X,
Y and Z and said all these things, and now
he's like, bro, how much how much more? How much
more crap? Do y'all want to dump on me? And say, man,
y'all just pouring perfume on me? Listen, because at some
point in time, Ojoe, enough is enough. You made your point. Okay, Okay,
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I'm fine. I get it. I get it. I didn't
I didn't live up to the expectations that I had,
the coaching staff, the organization, or the fan base of Denver.
I didn't meet those expectations. I accept that, but I'm gone.
There's no need. There's no reason for you to mention.
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You can praise Jackson Dark without taking a dump on me.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Absolutely absolutely, Hey, look.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Praise, praise your guy, But why would you have to
take a shot at me? And you, like I said,
he said that he was just praised to Jackson Dark.
But you said that you had talked to John Marraw,
who's one half of the owner of the Giants, weeks ago.
Even if he had done that, he could have kept
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that to himself. He didn't have to share that. So
he didn't have to share that, Ojo, John, Joe, he
could he could have just said what he said, like
you know, and maybe with his coaching staff or with
his close buddies when he's having a drink.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I told you, I told John.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I was like, man, I hope y'all make that, make
that change after us, because it's just a matter of time.
Cool and nobody the way Jackson started is playing. I
don't think anybody is upset that they made this move.
I told O Joe, I said, O Joe, over under
eight week, I said, I'm looking like that. I'm taking
the under. OO just saiding down. I said, I'm taking
the under because I had seen enough in I've seen
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enough in the preseason. I said, Oh Joe, they're gonna
make this this, make this change sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah. Yeah, but I just don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, the continuation of beating down Russ it's unnecessary.
I know you're excited, Joe. You know, we win a game. Oh, Yoe,
we win a game. Yeah we hate them, sorry, yeah
we beat them, sorry raft Yeah, but y'all had them,
didn't thirty three In the fourth thirty three. I get
all that, but come on, now, wins enough enough?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
O yoe? How how how much am I supposed to take?
I like it? Hey.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Matter of fact, he should have cursed in a tweet.
I should have cursed go go all the way there.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It wasn't enough for you.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Now listen, I like it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He listened.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He fired back, but he fired back in a professional manner. Absolutely,
come on, man, hey, Russ, next time, man man, man
what I put?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Let me put your tweet together. I put your tweet
together for you.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Hell dog, hey listen.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
But but what was it about? Why would Sean Payton
bring that up? Honestly? Like, when did they have to
do with anything?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Listen, this is all about the privileges that was bestowed
the pun Russ. Before Sean Payton got there, I said
some things and everybody called me a lie. I was
talking to me and oh Joe and I was having
a conversation, and everybody wanted to tell me, Shanna, you
don't know what's going on because you're not there. I say,
you do, realize I'm still held in very very hired
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alright in Denver. You actually think I would say something
like this and it not be the gospel. I say, hey,
I'm Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. When I speak about
something coming out of Denver or Baltimore, it's the gospel.
I don't really talk too much about it because they know.
But they try to undermine me. They try to say,
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you not in the locker room, or you don't know
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But y'all don't.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Realize how often I call around the league and a
lot of things that's going on that get reported. That
ain't my job. I ain't Adam Schefter. I don't try
to be. I'm not Jay Glazer. I don't try to be.
But I know a lot more than what I say.
And when it comes out like they got mad, I
said it. Sean got there when the organ when they
were explaining the privileges that Russ got Sean like, are
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you hitting me?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's like no, You're like, that's like, no, that is
not normal protocol. Nobody in the history had ever had
a situation like that. And from that point on, once
he heard that it was over, he would have needed
to throw for fifty touchdowns four thousand yards and get
him to the AFC Championship. Other than that it wasn't
gonna work. So instead of trying to listen to what
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I was trying to say, try to explain what was
transpiring and why so many people were out on Russ
in Denver. They wanted to talk about, Oh, you're talking
bad about a black man. You wouldn't say that about
a white guy when I had called Tom, when I
had called Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Tony Romo
and Aaron Rodgers and all these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But see long as I'm talking about them, is fine.
All I was saying. I didn't say Russ was a
bad person. I said he got.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Privileges and it made his teammates feel a certain type
of ways. O, Joe, we know who makes the money,
but just because you make more money, we don't want
you getting privileges. We don't want you having offices that
none of us like hold on.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Really.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, So from that point on, Sean felt some type
of way. He felt some type of way.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And I get it. I get it, But that man
been gone for two years now, it's time to let
that go. Yeah, yeah, Joe, you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's the same thing with Melo and George Carl George
Carr keep on poking Mellow Melo. Don't mention George Carl,
but every chance he gets, he tries to poke Mellow.
Melo's gonna have to look. Melo's gonna have to draw
a line in the sand and say, mo for if
you step across this line again, and I'm gonna have
to unleash.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
You know, he ain't got no problem doing that. You know,
Mello ain't got no problem drawing that line.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
He's gonna have to because every time, every time he's
always speaking negative. All They couldn't win no championship with
that guy. He wouldn't play defense, he wouldn't do this.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You don't like Mello. Everybody is not gonna like everybody,
But Bro, you hadn't coach Mellow and damn near two decades.
What what is the issue now?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Can we just move on?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I mean, obviously at that point it'd be better if
coaches come out, especially when they continue to do this
and they have things to say years removed from from
dealing or coaching a certain.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Individual, Why don't you just come out and say, you
know what, I don't even like this individual, and it's personal.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It had nothing to do with the sport that had
nothing to do with basketball, had nothing to do with football,
nothing to do with him playing quarterback or whatever it
may be.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I just don't like him, and that's okay. It would
it would be better suited for us as a public
and fans of.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
These sports to come out and have Sean pay say,
you know what, I just don't like Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I don't know. I don't know what it is about him.
I just don't like him, or George carl.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I don't like Carmelo, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What's understood don't need to be spoken. Yeah you know, Yeah, man,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, if if if, if, if somebody continuously cheating on
the other party.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What does he need to say? What does she need
to say? You keep doing what you're doing when you
know it's wrong. I don't need to I don't need
no no harbor to turn it to try to read
between the lines. Yes, you're telling me the mere fact
that you keep taking shots at me publicly. It's one
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thing if it's getting back to me o Jo. But
the mere fact that you're putting it in print, the
mere fact that you keep saying it publicly. I can
read it for myself. I can see it for myself.
Tells me that how you feel about me.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But I didn't. I already knew that. I'm like, I've been.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Trying to take the high road, try to remain remain professional.
I'm trying to build a brand. I don't want to
do anything to tarnish that. But hey, bro, I understand
that's not what you are. You don't try to build
a brand. You're not really on television. People go to
you when they want to get they want to get clicks,
they want to get a rage bait material. They'll come
to you and you'll say something Melloe is wanted to
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seventy five greatest players they ever play in the NBA.
We understand what Melo is now. He's a Hall of Famer.
So automatically, if somebody says something negative that's gonna get
picked up, that is Mellow, that's his former coach. I
just don't I just don't get it. We don't have
to like all of our teammates. We don't have to
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like all of our coaches. I've had I had a
great relationship with all the coaches. Maybe one or two
I didn't really jive with and yeah, it's okay, but
I would never say anything publicly. Absolutely, Hey, look your teammate.
It's only so much, bro, it's only so yeah, bro, Bro,
I'm fifty seven, I got grands now. But what I'm
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talking about, what happened twenty five thirty years ago? For
what purpose does that serve in a negative night? Yes?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Yeah, none at all, None at all. I mean, listen,
I get along with everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'd assume I try to.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I'd assume everybody loves me the same way.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I sure love.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
There's only one person I don't get along with. And uh,
if I ever see him, it's it's on site. And
huh would you say, Joe, who is that? You don't
want to say you don't want James Harrison?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah like that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It's it's personal, it's personally and I say I say
it every day and I let him know I can't
wait to see him.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Obviously he doesn't live here in Miami. But the only
place I probably see him maybe super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, I'm sure we're probably cross we'll cross pass maybe
you know, Radio Row or some ship like that, and
either he gonna have security or it's it's just gonna
be a thumping session.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Ojo. I don't know if you want to climb that tree.
Many one thing. One thing about me.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Hey, hey, let me tell you something. Hey, Joe, in
high school, they call me Paul Bunyan.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You hear me.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I used to Hey, I'm chopping every I'm chopping everything
down all trees.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Hey, hey, hey, as you play a partner, man, I'm listen,
you might want your pass on that one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
He a Joe brush up in the NFL. Knowledge what
you wanna know? Ive seen. I'm just saying because I
might need a new partner, Okay, Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Hey. The fact that y'all don't have no faith in
me man, y'all not y'all not Christians.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
He Hey, I'm basically saying, you're gonna be concussed. You're
gonna be out. You're gonna be out for the rest
of us.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
We gotta look, we got other we got other business
ventures that we're trying to get to choke.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Oh, We're gonna get there, no matter what. We're gonna
do that, no.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Matter what I mean. If you can't talk for like
six but I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Be man, trust me, I'm gonna be okay. Listen, if
you see me in a fight with a bell, you
might want to help the bell.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He Joe, I don't need no partner. He moved in
the chail like this here.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I can't use no partner like that. I need a
real partner, somebody to gonna laugh and joke and get
up out of the chail.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Hey, hey, Joe, I got I got a question. What's
your game playing though? Like, what'll y'all getting in the
oxa gun? What y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Listen, listen, octagon, street boxing ring, It don't matter on sight,
it don't matter. Joe, Like I'm I'm at that point,
like I'm kind of frustrated because I keep challenging him
and he really don't want no smoke.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
He's not responding. That lets me know. I mean all
that size and muscle don mean nothing.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Hey, from me to you, bro, keep your distance, stick
and move, don't.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
That's hey, Joe, That's what I'm gonna do. Joe, Hey,
look look at my ring.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know I'm gonna keep him out of distance.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Joe, Like I might, I might get me arranging that
and get close.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Up on him. No, don't do that. Don't do that. No,
don't keep that distance you that jam you got you
that damn baby.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Hey, Joe, use that thing, Joe, I'm gonna use it.
I'm telling you, man, listen, I'm listen, hey, one thing
about it.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
On my side, God on my side. You hear me,
And I'm on your side.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I mean, but y'all sound like y'all ain't on my side.
Y'all tell me I'm gonna be hurting, I ain't gonna
be able to talk.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And yeah, it ain't gonna be ain't looking good. But no,
what we try to do, o Joe, we're trying to
keep you safe.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I'm safe when I get in the car, I put
my seat belt on.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You gotta man.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Official guests joining us tonight tied for the league league
in sacks with nine. A third round pick out of
the University of Tennessee volunteer, he grew up the youngest
of thirteen siblings. Wow, Byron Young Rams Los Angeles, Bro.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
How you doing, I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Man.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Appreciate you men.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I appreciate you coming on you on one side, Jerry
Burst on the other. You got the big guy pushing
collapse in the pocket how fun is it rush the
pastor in that situation because it first come, first served.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You know, you got to get off because verse on
the other side.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's always a you know, racial quarterback.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
You know, I seem like this, you know, saying, you know,
meet me there and beat me there, you know, having
right and Kobe turned in the middle with Jared versus
on the other end, you know, you have no choice,
better get off.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
So you know, they just motivate me and pushed me
to go harder.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I was reading the story back in twenty eighteen. You
were working the ship at Burger Kingean Dollar General. You
saw a flyer on the store bulletin board. It's like
Georgia Military College holding open trials for football. Yeah, hold on,
You're like, hold on, man, let me take this this
April this it's fried cap off and get back.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So did you play football in high school?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Yes, sir, I played in high school. I just I
just really went recruited for real. Really nah, yeah, so
you go, so you go, you go trial.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
So so what what did have you do?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You had to run drill, you had to run a
forty So what did you want? What did you what
did this tryout in compass.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Basically it was the forty kind of like what you said,
you had to do the bench press at two twenty five,
you had to do like change directions and like they
basically doing like measurements. Yeah, I want to see where
you were at. And that was kind of like it
for the most part, it was like one hundred one hundred.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Guys there were you the only one that made it?
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Uh, I was I was the only one that.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Made it off the spot, So like it was the
other guys that got called back because you kind of
it's like two tryingouts. You kind of like have the
second try in the spring when you kind of have
spring ball. But I was like, you want to make
the team from that though.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Wow, Hey, most of the time you're growing up too.
Obviously in the NFL you play defense in when you
were younger, what position did you play? I know, I
know you want to play dn back then now I
played running back. What you were toting that ball you
were to the p oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
I played running back all through high school. That's why
I've always been fans.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Right, So, at what point did you did your body
did did your body you know, grow into actually, now
I can be on the defensive side of the ball,
and you got a little bigger.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Well, actually, my senior year, like I always like dig
in high school. With my senior year, I played both
sides and I played a stand up linebacker my senior
year high school. So that's kind of like transition after that.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Are you from Georgia?
Speaker 8 (21:24):
No, I'm from Georgetown, but I moved to Georgia after
I graduated high school Georgetown, South Carolina, Georgetown, South Carolina.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
As a matter of fact, you know what, I got
a look, I got a small look. You ain't know this, right,
see a b Why you ain't know I know this?
You and Melissa Jefferson come from the same small town too.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Yeah, we went to the we went to the same
high school. It was on the same track team. Ah
but you ran track too, Yeah I ran track my
senior year.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Wait what what what?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What race?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The four point one? Okay, okay, okay, so you you
you you get called so how did you? How did
you end up at Tennessee.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Honestly, that was the first power of fire School to
offer me. So really, yes, sir, yes it was. I
feel like it was a sign from God. So you know,
I just went with them.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So man and you, hey you got a playing the NCC.
So was that always your dream to play in the NFL?
You just had a took a little detour, It took
you a little while, but hey, you ended up where
you ended up, and you got the ultimately your ultimate destination.
Was that always your goal? So what would what did
Byron wanted to be when he was brought up, when
he was a kid, he was eight, nine, ten years
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of age? What did you want to be?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I always wanted to be in an NFL. I always
wanted to go in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
I'll be lying to you if I told you that
I just knew this this would have happened, like based
off my journey. But like my mindset was, I just
never wanted to quit, you know, always like wanted to
somehow get back into playing football. But I really just
didn't know how that would look, like, you know, growing up,
like just being around a lot of people that really
didn't really make it to the NFL. So it's kind
of hard to kind of navigate and find your ways
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through there. So like you know, it was just unpredictable.
But I always trump said.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Wow, that's that.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Man, that's a unbelieve that's an unbelievable story. So you
get your soul, you go to University of Tennessee, you
have an outstanding collegiate career, and now it's draft.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So what were the scouts telling you? Did you know
you go?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Did they tell you, okay, you might be a first
round pick, you could be a late first round pick,
early second Did they.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Tell you day one, day two?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
What?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
What?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
What were you hearing when you were coming out?
Speaker 8 (23:23):
I was really hearing day two. Some said possibly day three,
but mostly it was day two. My biggest knock was
my age, So I was like an older guy, like
how mature I was with my age. So it really
was always day two, but possibly day three because of that.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So you found the home now rushing the passer. Uh,
this is your third year, right, yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So you did you get? So you got one year
with a D, got one year with ad man? Can
you do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You sit back and thinks, say, man, can I imagine
me verse a D right now, knowing what I know now, first,
knowing what he knows now, and you're talking about arguably
the greatest defensive tackle to ever played, one of the
five greatest defensive players, and the way our offense can
score and be we ahead, and now I just get
to hunt the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
They got the double ninety nine, they got to.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Well I think about that every day.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
I just feel like I took something, you know, something
I feel like I took it for granted a little
bit about rookie year, but I just said I was learning,
you know, I was growing.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
But like now, I just look back at my thirty year.
I was like, man, if we if you could.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
Have had him too, you know, you know, you know,
I'm just thankful that I had one year, you know,
with him and him you know, teaching me things and
you know, just just being my mentor and.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So almost some of the things that he taught you.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So to watch him, obviously he plays the three to five,
it's a different you mainly edge, you're on the edge
normally occasionally you put your hand in dirt. Would you
like to rush the passer from a stand up position.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Sir, Oh yeah, oh yeah, stand up kind of was
doing that tendency for the most part. That's why I
kind of started dropping though, So yeah, stand them outside linebacker.
But you know, in with Ad and some of the
things he kind of taught me just be patient. You know,
I feel like as a rookie, you're always trying to
be perfect, you always not trying to make mistakes. So
I feel like, coming in, let's stress so much about
like I'm trying to be perfect. I'm not trying to
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do this wrong. And you know, he always just said,
you know, just be patient, just let it come to you.
You know, like you're going to make mistakes and just
learn from them. But you know, that was something that
always stuck with me.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And so coming into the season, obviously, would it been
your third year, Obviously you have team goals, but have
your personal goals obviously, I'm sure the Saxon in.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The director you.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Are on right now.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
So far this season, are there any other goals you
had set in mind from an individual's perspective going into
the season.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Oh, oh, definitely making my first Pro Bowl, you know,
being All Pro. You know, that's that's always been a
dream come true for me. You know, that's something I
always wanted, you know, just you know, just watching the
guys that I looked up to, like Bond Miller and
those guys like that, Like one of my favorite players
ever and just watch how they just go about Bennison,
you know, every year making the Pro Bowl, and it's
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just like, that's something I always wanted to do. So
come into you know, my third year. My goal is
you know, are feel of course as a team make
it to the Super Bowl. But for myself all Pro
you know, Pro Bowl, you know, and Defense Player of
the Year. That's why I look at That's why I'm
reaching you know, every every day I work. That's why,
you know, that's why I'm trying to accomplish you you.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Know, be why the easiest thing you'll do is make
it to the Pro Bowl once.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Now what happens when they get that, you know what
we're gonna sit our game plan to be Why now
we slide the protection. Now we have the back chip
on his way out. Now we have the tight end
that chip on his way out. Now the second Pro Bowl,
the third Pro Bowls, those are the ones that get
hard because now they know what you can do, and
now you have expectations for yourself. The fans, management, they
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have greater expectations because they saw what you've done. You
gone to the Pro Bowl. You're like, hey, I got
nine sacks. Hold on, I think we got one, two, three, five, six, seven, eight, man,
we got nine more, we got nine ten games.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Hold on, I get a sack a game, get a
couple of two sacks games, but I can't get twenty sacks. Yeah,
and now you're like, oh, twenty sacks.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Hey, they don't have to come see if they.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Beat Bucks for twenty sacks twenty see you. Hey, Hey,
I go by, I can go back about all of Georgetown.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Stand standing? What unk stand? Cronky?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, tell stand? We want forty nine a year.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, hey fifty.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So so coming into the sea, obviously you know your
third year. What are some of the things you work on? Look,
you got great get off obviously you can convert speed
the power. So so what what what was you working
on in Because each year you work on something to
try to improve, to get better. Because sometimes the moves
that you work worked on that work this year, it
might not work. I'm not getting rid of them, but
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I got to have another trick in my bag that
I need to pull out, especially when I got to
get off the field. We got to make sure we
get off the field. We got to make sure we
keep them out of field goal range. We got to
make sure we keep them out of the end zone.
So what were some of the things that you was
working on this this off season?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Be why?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Uh, you know, just going into my third year, just
looking back at my first two years, I just feel
like I wanted to take a different approach. So I
took on you know plates, I started doing at these
three days out the week.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Just to build my body and you know, just break
that core, get flexible.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Yeah, working them a little must you know what I'm saying,
for longevity and stuff like that, and the help event injury.
So I feel like doing pilate's definitely helped my body
type and helped me being able to dig then getting
off the ball faster, you know, flexibility and everything been
in the corner, you know how I do.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So it's like those some of the things that I
was doing.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
I was really consistent at it, and I feel like
I've seen the different things that helped and just putting
it it should work, you know, getting more, get off,
working my technique more, getting more film studies, studying myself,
you know, and studying what I lacked last my last
two years. And I was just trying to improve from that.
So my goal every time I step on the field
is improved, you know, something that I didn't do good yesterday,
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whether it's get whether it's faster, whether it use my hands,
you know, whether I always try and just like get
better at something, you know, every predice.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
So that's kind of my approach. That was taking ot
as and count Then.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You guys still run the hoop that circle that you know,
you try to run it and stay as low as
you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Y'all still do that.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Well, we we kind of do that. We kind of
do something else with the medicine ball. We like have
the medicine ball. We kind of fill up our hips,
but we kind of like do it around the whole hoop.
But we don't I know what you're talking about. We
don't really do that too much.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So when at the end of this season, look, hey
your third round pick. Oh, they got to come see
you after.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
This year, We got to come see you.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Be why.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So you're going crazy? You really try to leave.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm gonna get this twinty piece out here.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Hey, I'm saying that's that's that's always to go to,
just say, you know, trying to get to that second deal.
So I'm definitely working for them for sure. That's sir, sir.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Man, congratulations on all your success, man, I mean it wasn't.
Let me ask you this, the youngest of thirteen? How
many how many how many brothers?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
How many? How many boys? How many girls?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Now boys and all four girls?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And you the youngest.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
I'm the youngest.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, man, Mom and pop wasn't playing.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Day.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So so I've been talking about.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So when y'all get Georgetown, so y'all eat some of
anything down there? I know about that low country? Yeah, yeah,
all the hogs are y'all put everything in the plot.
They call it pot. Look, Joe, they put it all
in the pot. You love if it don't kill you.
But they're gonna eat.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Good Nah, no thanks when you go back home.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So, so, was it like, so you go to the NFL,
is there anybody from Georgetown? How close to Georgetown? The
monk's going to the huh like Somerville and charge that?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How close do you do that?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Standing like an hour away? Fay, it's not it's not too.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Any Is there any for hold on? I think where
I think jump together from down your way?
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:23):
Yeah, that's my family. That's from Chumpy. They's from around
and winning Georgetown too.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah I played with Jumpy, Yeah yeah, I played with
your man Jumpy. Who lord jumping the country is?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Hey, I don't know what he had, but he had
some stuff in the green bottle. He rub it on
his knee, rub it on his ankle, and then drink it.
You talking about you want to try somebody say, nah,
I'm good. You know my need don't hurt no more
different for sure, you got home remedies like that.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
I mean, not like that, but we got some stuff
that we do. But that was yeah, I ain't never
that's right, way back in the day.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, hey, b why thanks for joining us, man, continue success,
stay healthy and.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You lead the league in sacks. Come back and tell
us how you did it.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
I said, I appreciate your man.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Thank god, we appreciate you coming man, Get some rest,
stay healthy, best to love the rest of the year. Hey,
this off season staying crocking. Give you that five year
one seventy five, two hundred, two hundred.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We need to. I ain't say no boat. I ain't
gonna say no boat. I got jack. You broke good
luck the best, right, thank you? Bad hold on, let
me use the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Go ahead, man, that's what he's a You can see
he's a very You can tell he's mature, and you know,
and you see now you see, you hear what they
say because of his age. Now you see why them
guys try to get out of school early, because they
hold that against you, because they look at it like,
if you're that good, why are you still in school?
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They used the man age against it. Now he got
an ad. He gonna hit that jackpot though. He gonna
get paid and deservedly. So I love people that you know,
he's a fighter. Come from Georgetown, not a whole lot
you know going on down there. But he's like, hey,
same thing with Melissa and and to see where he's
where he came from, and and and to to see
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where he's headed. Man, he seems so mature. He seems
like he got you know, he's he's well grounded. And man,
I'm I'm excited. I'm excited to see what this season
and what of them folds for moo.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
O Joe.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Isaiah Rodgers had a bad day on the football field again.
For seventy nine yard touchdown to uh Devonte Smith, he
gave up a touchdown to uh A. J. Brown and
his dms were was on floe but nothing calls him
deserved it. Look at what he said, Uh, we got
it up on the screen. Go effing it face you
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f and suck f and third down you know it's
a past. You just gave the Eagles to win. Good
f face. You know with all that fail, if they
really want to get up fun of your skin, you know,
they go, they got they gotta put that in in there.
They gotta put that, They gotta put that with the Uh,
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you're worse than Hitler. He would have never been picked
up worth a piece of crap waste of air n
word again.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Oh man, hey that's funny, boy, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
And listen at this day and age as grown.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oh yeah, you go out with Joe Dinny. Then he's like,
all right, bro, my bad, just lock in nah nah
no no the leader, now, don't get the name, no
what you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Are just no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You should have just that's what you should have said
at first. Yeah, come on, bro, lock in nah what
you want to get all that on?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
You understand the climate we in? You understand the climate
we in. They're fans when you're playing well. When you're
not playing well, they they'll tell you. They'll tell you
and talk talk to you truly how you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yes, that's all.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
It's it's the world we live in.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
But once you realize, once you realize about yo, they
applaud what you do, not who you are, You're find
the mistake is that they applaud what you do, not
who you are.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
And listen, they're not a fan of you. They're a
fan of the team that you happen to play for exactly.
And then guess what, because that's how he really feel.
Because when I get up, what I.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Get up said, the first thing that I go through
when I get somebody, the first thing I ain't thinking
the most What is the worst thing that I know?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Oh I.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Or that is what I do?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
But they try to go what what's the lowest thing?
What is the most hurtful thing that I can say?
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But I can get a rise out of said individual,
And you can get a rise now, can get a
rise at it? He probably see I said, Rogers, what's up? Rogers? Hey?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
What up?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bad cook? Dapping him up? I just I just don't
get it.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I mean, I don't know how other people react to
what words, stuff type. Let that stuff bother me. I
can care less and going one.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, did you did you get this? What did they
have a?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Did they have Twitter? And I g when you played
for the end of my career?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I didn't care.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I don't care. I don't care what you say. Oh yeah,
I understand the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I understand even though you can't see it, the way
people feel it's still out there.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh yeah, for sure, and understand that so well. They
got the way they gotta, they gotta, they gotta. They
got a black car that have unlimited access to say
whatever you want to. Now, in the climate that we're
in now, whereas divisive as we've ever been as a country,
I don't see it getting any better on the horizon.
I stay in my lane. I ain't got tired and
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arguing with y'all. I'm not going back and forth with y'all.
I know how y'all feel about me. I'm gonna stay
in my I'm gonna keep it moving, go ahead. But
I've been very I've been very blessed. Oo is that
when I've traveled and you and I both travel a
lot of the work. Everybody is great. I haven't met
with that one person. It's the people that hide behind
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their computer screen.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You know. Everybody got everybody got thumb muscles. What kind
of muscles? Thumb muscles? Because they tight, real, real tough.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
That's funny. Damn man.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, I'm sorry. I know what I did was wrong
and I should never done that. Why you shouldn't never
done so now your boss might see that. It might
cost you your job.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Change your tone up real quick.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah he didn't put your name. Oh he lucky.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
He could have been messy too.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Now you got messy. That's that's a part of it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's always been so Think about this on Joe, that's
because he played bad. You used to get this just
because you were that color. Think about if he if
he went through this. Think about what Jackie obviously went through.
Think about what all the black players went through. Think
about they had a rule to end up. I'n't even say. Look,
but they used to be in the NFL. They wouldn't
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a love black players then, But we go to we
ain't gonna talk about that, o yo. Think about that
just because just because I hadn't done anything. I just
want to I just want to make a living.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I want to feed my kids, that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah. When he picked up the yeah. The statement from
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
We are disgusted by the racial slurs director that Isaiah
Rogers following yesterday's game. As we have said previously, there's
simply no room for racist words or action in sports
or society. We support Isaiah and all players who unfortunately
experience this type of ignorant and prejudicial behavior far too often,
and we ask god fans to continue to fight to
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eliminate racism.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yes, we've been putting out quotes and speeches and putting
uh symbols, logos and slogans, paying the street and you,
oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Love overhete and racism, all that other stuff that ain't
if it ain't going nowhere, it ain't going nowhere. I
just how you treat how you treat me. I understand it.
I know you don't like me, Okay, I ain't. We
ain't got to deal with each other. We ain't got
to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You, oh Joe. If I know somebody doesn't like me,
why do I Why Why would I go? Why would
I go? To anything that that person is having. Why
would I get I don't follow people that don't like me.
I don't go to their page. That's what I don't get.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
You.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Oh, you don't like something that I said you on
my pay I didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
That I don't get it? I don't and I never would.
You know what, donut, yo?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Everything is not meant to be understood. I mean I
had to learn to understand the history of it.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
You know it's not going where I understand it.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, you know, you know you have something that you
you have some that are genuinely not like that, genuinely
not like that, don't have a hate and a bad
bone in ay body, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I think you know the thing is obviously clearly I've
been I've been retired two decades and none of this
was out when I was done. But I'm not so
sure I would have been on social media when I
played the season. I had had a singular focus and
and you know, look, I everybody wasn't happy. Everybody's not going.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
To be happy for you.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
But oh Joe, when you went to Pittsburgh, you expect
the little tell me I saw, just keep it, just
keep it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Just keep it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Hey, we're gonna keep everything above the belt. No low blows.
You ain't gonna call me in. You ain't gotta talk
about my mom.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
And stuff like that. All that ain't necessary.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Because you and I both know if I'm walking down
the street, you ain't gonna say, hey en all that
stuff that you say on Twitter and that you're all
tough about y'all, I'm not gonna say dad, Y'ALLM not.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Now, at least I haven't met anybody people. Look, can
I can my son take a picture with you? I mean,
I get some time. Hey, bro, I don't want to
take no pictures. And O Joe. You'll see him do this,
hit the thing, hit the turnaround on the camera and
still try to snap it.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yes, Oh, you be sitting there, you see O Joe
And all of a sudden they putend like that like
they looking at something. I'm looking just like, oh, y'all,
I'm just like this here. I'm like, really, bro, you're
not gonna ask you just gonna take it without my permission. Hey,
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oh Joe, I was in there, George was. George was
with me the other day. So this guy coming to
be like, man, can I take a picture.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I was like, Bro, He's like, uh, I don't normally
do this, so why are you doing it?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I said, well, how many famous or semi famous people
people you see in the airport?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I've never seen anybody. That's why you don't do it.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
He makes it seem like he just he just he
walking down day on drive and see ain't list celebrities
and he passing them up.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But he said, yeah, I don't normally do this.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I said, well, how many you know, famous people of
semi famous people you see in the airport. I've really
never seen no one. I said, well, that's probably why
you don't do it. And a random persons not gonna
let you take no picture with him.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
And so it's so funny with people. People say, I
normally don't do this. Listen, I hate to bother you.
Oh hey, I hate to bother you, but I'm finna
bother you anyway. Basically, yeah, just take the picture.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
But they wait till they get done eating. I'm just
about to eat, so they getting ready to leave out. Yo,
I'm at the gym. They done got their work out in.
You mind if I get a picture, Well, let me
get my work out in like you got yours in
and we get one afterwards. How you gonna get your
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work out in finish up? Then you're gonna interrupt my workout.
You didn't interrupt your workout now when you was working out. Now,
one time you say could you get a picture cause
you focused? Don't get your work out now, I'm trying
to get mine in you mind if I get a picture?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah, hey, listen.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Blurred enough.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
If you catch me in public, you're good, You're good,
you good.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Young.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
I'll be having people feeling like got him went to
high school, like I got people feeling like it's a
goddamn high school reunion, like we went to school together.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Some ship.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I put deportment. I'll be in and out. Hey, you
missed around. I don't really go around to stop me.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Boy, we'll be sitting there talking for twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
M hm. I ain't got that kind of time.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Because uh, we and her, we get we get from
point A to point B, Jordan and I, Hey, I'm
in a hurry, o Joe, because the last thing the boy,
I missed my flight. I mean one time we all
missed the flight. We're coming from Houston. Then we went
to uh the Salt Lake remember they diverted this to
Sault Lake.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, yes, better fall out of lane.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
And Shelley was on the thing. Shelley was book had
already to book this on another flight. So what Shelley,
You know, she booked the fly she'll book book one
flight in then after flight and then if we get
that one, she'll cancel. You know, he'll cancel it. But man,
I was like, man, what the flights? Man, they got
to do better than this.
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