August 20, 2025 • 45 mins
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0:00 - Howie Roseman's biggest regret
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Oh, Joe Eagles.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Jim hy Roseman speaks on the mistake and the regret
of not drafting Justin Jefferson. I think there's one who's
pretty obvious, one guy didn't draft that's going to the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The mistakes kill me. I made. It made me made
me think, why are we picking certain guys?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
But if we don't make that mistake like that, we
probably don't play in two Super Bowls in the last
three years. Don't overthink things when you're staring at a
good player, just take them. Not drafting JJ still haunts
him to this day. Yes, because because think about who
you took, and look the guy that he took. I
played with his father, Monte Rigor. Jalen Rigor is his son. Yes,
(00:45):
he got in awe of all the jumping high and
running fast, and he overlooked the production that that that
JJ Jenna gave him on the field. I asked Ozzie Newsom,
who's one of the best gms to do it? Drafted
John his first two players he ever selected, with Jonathan
Ogden and ray Lewis right. He selected, he selected Suggs,
(01:06):
He selected Lamar Jackson, he selected Ed Reid. We know,
we know what he's been able to do. And I
asked him, saying, Ozzie Suggs, Oh Joe. He said, Suggs
ran four eight five with tights and track spikes. I said, well,
why the hell you take a man that run four
eight five? He said, SHAWNA, somebody got twenty three sacks.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Somebody could bend to edge. I don't need to run
forty yards. I did need to run ten right, and
he can get off the ball. So I believe, he said,
I'll never forget this. He said, I believe what my
eyes tell me. He says, yes. When I'm watch him
film and a guy looks fast, he looks explosive, he
looks strong. Hopefully he comes to the combine, Hopefully he
(01:53):
tests well. But if he doesn't, I face most of
what I what I'm judging on by what I see
on tape.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm gonna trust my eyes. How we didn't trust his eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
He got enamored by OJO four three fourth sub four
or four four he got, and he got enamored by
forty plus edge vertical. He got enamored by things that
doesn't necessarily equate to be a girl. Because if that
was the case Hill, I just go get me a
track guy.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do you see when when Noah loves is warming up,
did you see how high he jumps up in the
damn air?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, his feet, his heels, all right, the height of
somebody's head. So that lets you know, first of all,
if a god that fast, you know he's explosive. O yoe.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, absolutely, Look at Tyreek. You say, Tyreek did them
back flip? You say, you say, you gotta see this
joke in pert, Yes, you could tell he's explosive. Go ahead,
what you want to say about what you think about
how he said admitting that he made a mistake not drafting.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Jenna, Well you know that that happens. That happens.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Obviously, it's the eye test going to come to scouts, GMS, coaches,
and in personnel in general based off the eye tests
and not looking at numbers.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You look at Justin Jefferson, and you look at.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Jalen Riger and you'll pick Jalen Rigor based on what
you see when it comes to the aesthetics of the
position in itself. So I can understand where he calls
it he calls a mistake. Actually it's not a mistake
because let's say you did go get Jettis, you might
not have the Super Bowls that you have.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You know, you might not you know, things would have
been different.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So everything went exactly how I was supposed to have
supposed to go.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Actually, but I'm I'm upset.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, he stumbled into it because guess what the next year,
Demonte Smith came out and he was able to trade
down to get Demontes Smith, and a couple of years
later you traded.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Two.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It did work yourself out. I was kind of upset.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I really wanted I really wanted brother Jalen Riger to
to be be great at the position because he had
all all that intangibles to be just that.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I think one of the things with him is mentally.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Mentally, I think I think he had lost his confidence
at some point and he just wasn't able to regain
it back. Because he has all the particular potential in
the world to be one of the best in the league.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
He just wasn't able to put it all together.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Hey uncle Ocho, Uh, do you think they put too
much emphasis on like the testing to combine. Yeah, when
when it comes to football, meaning because there are some
guys who will not test well when it comes to
come by agilly quickness right vertical, But when you put
them in between the lines, the lights come on. They
(04:29):
just know how to play bro, you know what I mean.
That's for basketball and football. But I see that. I
see that in a lot of guys this year, obviously
from watching Shadua, you know, I know, I know we
talk about him a lot, but he looks like one
of those type of guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
When you get him in between the lines, he just
knows how to play bro. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah, he'll no, he probably ain't gonna test well and
no combine and no forty or no vertical leap, but
none of.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, if somebody goes to the combine, they might not
be U. He just had a tearing armstead he goes
to the combine to run for six. Now people looking
at it. Yeah, you coulda got go there and they
might not be hurt. Or he might be a low
go run for three. Yeah, because I can teach you
everything else. I can teach you to catch, I can
(05:15):
teach you the back, I can teach you to drop.
I can't teach you how to run fast. Either you
got that in you or you don't.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
But but also also as a given a curse being
able to run that goddamn fast and them believing you
becoming a project coming too the NFL. Well, we can
teach you all the intangibles you know to become a
great player whatever position you do play.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Sometimes it's hard. Sometimes it's too late.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Because if you're already in the NFL and you've been
able to get by, you've been able to get by
without the technique all this time.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, well you got the technique.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
At the next level, you're gonna get exposed anyway, no
matter how goddamn fast you are.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
At that next level.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Everybody run full three at the skill position, damn yere. Everybody,
even the people that run for five or run for six,
that play receiver or not, they know how, they know
how to manipulate all those are fast to be able.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
To get open and create somethreation.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So just an addage, like it's like having a car
and you're throwing rims on them and once you okay,
that's the speed. In general, it's great to have, but
you don't necessarily need it to be successful at what you.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Do when to use it. Have you ever heard anybody
say size kill? Have you ever heard somebody say a
strength killed? What do they say kill? O?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Jo?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Speed?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Speed?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, yeah, speed.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I can't teach you that, they say, Well he talking. No no, no,
no no.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I can teach you technique to make you faster than
what you are.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But that's in you.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
If you think somebody like got that, U saying boat
was already fast. It was always in him. He just
found somebody to get it out of him. Yes, sir, so,
now Ocho, you look at it. We look at guys
and they're like, man, what did everybody say? I just
ain't nobody saying I want to do twenty four reps.
(07:03):
Ain't nobody saying I want to do forty inch vertical
forty everybody saying I want to run I want to
run four three. I want to run four two, because
that's what's gonna grab the attention.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
When Chris Johnson ran that four two.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Four yeah yeah, John Rasss got drafted in the first
round because he ran four two to two.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He couldn't stay healthy in college. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So if you can't, o Joe, if you can't stay
healthy in college, what makes you think you're gonna be
able to stay health in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Right, hey, Zaber, you're worthy.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, he goes to run four two one O, Joe.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah moving, So I got a question ahead ahead. Excuse
me if I'm wrong, Joe. Hey, when you watch Xavier
Worthy despite his forty times, doesn't look he doesn't look
as explosive.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And when I read he does not Tyreek look like,
it's like right now, I'm he gone.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But if David Worthy ran a faster combine time, but
he doesn't look that fast until he gets gone.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's like he's a building. He's a build up guy.
You know some some cars don't, Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You just like an electric versus gas.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Like if you if anybody out there have an electric car,
you know you step on it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It doesn't require that spark. It's gone.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, you look at you look at Tyreek. Tyreek look
when you watch Tyreek run. When you watch the very
first time, I said, damn, but he looked. I said,
maybe it's maybe it's me. I said, some people just
look fast. You know what I'm saying, Joe. We feel
it's one thing to like to see a person up
close and personal. But to watch somebody from the television,
(08:48):
it say damn. But he looked fast. The imagine person
Tyreek looks explosive. You could tell, but you can tell
the way you build. Look at look at how compact
he is. Look at the muscle, the musculature. You could
tell the way he walked. Oh yeah, you could look
at certain guys. Oh he could do a backlip, Yeah
(09:08):
yeah he could, he could do certain path That's how Tyree.
Tyreek looks like that exam Your worth is fast. But
you got to realize your word is what one sixty
Tyreek like one real?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You think?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So Tyreek?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah he lost weight, he lost he remember he said
that he dropped weight, so he might be.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Five?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, so might he might save?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You're worthy like one sixty five and.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You know, Xavi, you're worthy. You might remind me of that.
Ain't the same type of runner style. They have the
same gate too, And it looked like they're not running
until somebody trying to catch him or the ball is.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
In the air.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That goddamn Ted then yeah, yeah, Ted, yes, yeah you
mind you I don't know if you remember him.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh Jo James Jet yea from the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, he jet were Alter on the four on the
four by one that won the gold medal in ninety
two at the Olympics. Uh huh, Lord have mercy. You know,
the Raider has always been a namor with the speed.
They've always had the fans had guys that can run fast.
They had Willie god Who, they had Sam Graddy who
won the silvil medal in the Olympics was on the
(10:19):
four by four and eighty dot.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
They had Swerving Mervyn for nan dance. They've always had
guys that could fly at that position. You remember when
they drafted days Darius Heyward bay o Jo because he
ran four three two.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Now catching the football was a problem. Running fast was
not a problem.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Love, because you can have all that speed, but if
you don't know how to use it and.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Get open Hell's it's useless. Yeah that's what And I
tell people, man, you not that fast. I said, all
speed do is get you to the safety faster to
get knocked out. This this, this folk, this four five,
four six is pretty fast enough. It is all you
do is to get to that safety. So dropped the
ham on you. But look, you're gonna make mistake, But
(11:07):
think about what you've done. You drafted Jalen Hurts, You
drafted Jalen Carter, You drafted Jordan Davis Cooper de John,
you drafted Landon Dickerson. Look at the guy you found,
Jordan Mylotta Look at the guy. Damn, how are you
what you want to be? Howard the baseball player that
mad that he struck out, he done, got three home
(11:27):
runs of a double, he's straight out of lambs played
appears He's like, damn, I'm left up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But bro, Howie, Bro, you that Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Look at the pigs that he's got no Joe since
he got that wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Listen, he's playing, he's playing humble. Obviously, I don't think
how he understands.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Listen. I'm not a part of of of.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
NFL offices or or or management or gms or people
in positions of power. But if anything but Howie and
and and Jeffrey Lourie have done the past what I have.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Sick.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, they'd a goddamn blueprint on how to operate and
build a winning team.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I mean to me, look at the defense, hell, look
at the offense. So if I'm in the NFL, and
I'm an executive of some sort. Hey, we need to
piggyback and steal what they're doing over here.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's a copycat league anyway, feel people watching film and
stealing stuff that works the previous week on the opponent
that you're playing.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Hell, they might as well do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's easy to say than done. You don't think, hey, man,
I could do that. I might go across over the country,
but you don't. You're not Beyonce. But man, you see
what Mike.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You not Michael, You're not Primps, you're not Usher.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So it's easy to say this is what you should do,
but you're not wanted them to be able to do it.
It's easy to say, man, you see what how we doing,
but you ain't got how he's I You don't know
what how he's looking for. We need look for a
particular player. Yeah, it's either say, man, look at Ozzie.
They're joking. How many Hall of Famers did the draft?
Jonathan and ray Lewis on the think the all said
(13:02):
the hundred Anniversary team, And so you got three guys
that's on the hundreds Anniversary team. Hey, three guys first
battle Hall of Famer Sugs is gonna be in the
Hall of Fame. Labar Jackson is going to be in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
The funny thing when I think about is Joe is
Joe just said it clear as day earlier. When the
lights are on, what do they look like in between
those landla on the grass. There's a lot of film
and everybody before you drafting, Yes, yea, god damn, it's
common sense. I don't care what you ran the forty end.
Let's say you did run a slow time. How am
I gonna knock you when I know what I'm getting
when it's time to play the actual game of football.
(13:38):
The game of football isn't isn't ran. It's not it's
not It's not played in the straight line anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
This ain't track.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So halving speed is just another great factor to add
to what you can.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Do, jem huh.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Jared Rice might be the slowest receiver in the hall.
Technical sound, random text.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
He was technically sound, but he had he had something
we call football speed.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what you need speed. It's a different and we
know it might be this Sloyd running back. He got
the most rushing yards. Yeah, So when you look at
it we do. We put a lot of emphasis on
speed ojo. But at the end of the day, can
you play the game of football?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That's it. Listen, this ain't the Olympics. Hey, we got Olympians.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We're gonna let Noahllows, were gonna let kee it in there,
We're gonna let ride, We're gonna let the handle of that.
Can you play football? Because at the end of the day,
we play a game called football, and it's not in
a straight line. You would have to move, you would
have to be You're gonna have to be have to react.
And the number one thing, you can't be a front Look,
there's a certain level. It's hard to say a player
(14:48):
soft because it takes a certain type of crazy. It
takes a certain type of person to play the game
of football.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, not not anymore not doing your error doing my area,
its doing my error.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Take a certain level of crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
The way the game is now where it's favored in
his handicapped the defense. Now you got players out there
catching with one hand man.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And why you see all them go across the middle.
Hey and take it selfie, hey boy in buff.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But Joe back boy, Joe back in the two thousands, boy,
but in the early two thousands and.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Across that middle alligator on.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Man listen is that man, I don't want no party.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Terry McLaurin came up the pupp list a mere contract
tensions with the Commanders. Despite the contracts stand up hold
his trade request, Terry McClure will soon be practicing with
the Commanders. The team announced today that he has been
activated from the pup list. O Joe, could Terry removal
from the pup list mean contract extension is on the way?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Probably, probably something is looming. They're almost there. It's probably
not where it needs to be, but the fact that
they think they are gonna practice is a good thing.
He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt,
if I'm not mistake. He'll be able to get two
weeks under his belt before he's able to play. Before
he was able to play in a live game, which
(16:24):
should be September. I'm assuming what September? What seventh? Maybe
or thirteenth?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
O Joe?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
What at?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
No? In a live game, a real game. He didn't
missed the e didn't miss the preseason.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh yea yeah yah yah yah yea yeah yah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
He's definitely not going to play the last pre season game.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
No, So.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I'm hoping. I'm hoping.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I pray once he gets paid, no setbacks, no injuries,
it's going to be so different.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
It's going to be so different. The fact that he
wouldn't able to go through training camp.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Oh till you till the word right up, I'm saying
to myself, and I'm thinking to myself, and I say, I.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Know what you're thinking. This man.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I could not imagine not playing a meaningful game in
eight nine months, in my first game, in my first
real game. It's gonna be a real I couldn't imagine it,
don't Joe would.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I wouldn't want that. No, hell no, I would.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I would tell honestly, I would tell my agent, Listen,
if we get this deal done, I'm gonna go practice.
If there's a chance that we're getting this deal done,
I'm gonna go practice because I need people pushing, I
need people pulling.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I need to be fighting through contact. Yes, right, man,
forget that, man, because.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I'm telling you, the body would tear up. The body
would tear up trying to go from zero to a
hunted without putting it through that that rigor moroad.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's what I'm gonna calling you.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Gotta condition your body, yeah, for the stresses that it's
gonna endure during the season. In order to run fast,
you got to practice fast. You hear what she said, Hey,
I wanted to be on the ground. It's hard. Would
you miss that kind of time? Oh Joe, You're not
gonna miss that kind of time and just pick right up.
(18:15):
It's just not you sit and and I agree with you.
You kind of like you just just hold your breath
like man. Please, no soft tissue injury. No soft tissue
injuries please. No growing, no quaws, no hamstring, no calves,
no adductors, none of that, because, like you said, oh Joe,
(18:36):
you going just like that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You've been cruising. You've been cruising and then all of
a sudden.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Step on the gas out the blue and what normally happens.
Something got to give.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yep man. But hopefully they can come to an agreement
real soon. The Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs
couldn't make NFL. In Super Bowl history this upcoming season,
there have only been one instance in which two franchises
have played each other three times in the Super Bowl,
and that's the Dallas Cowboys Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Seventy five, seventy nine, ninety five.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
After the Eagles faced one another two or the three
big games the Chiefs are currently they have the highest
odds to be a matchup for Super Bowl. What is
that sixty sixty in February of twenty twenty six. This
would make the franchises the second of their kind to
play one another on three separate occasions on the biggest stage.
To add, no other quarterbacks in the history. No quarterbacks
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have ever faced each other three times in the Super Bowl,
something Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes have a chance to do.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I mean it sounds good, but you want me to
tell you, coming coming out of AFC this.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Year, you got to worry about winning your division. You
ain't coming out of no.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Have you noticed the Bengals have been playing in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right yep?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
All I know.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
All I know is when Al Jacket is on the field,
Cincinnati can't win.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I just want to I just won't even remember.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I bet Al jack If on the field, Cincinnati can't win.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
This is the new year.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You think about the past I'm trying to understand why
you think about the past, and this is twenty were
in twenty twenty five. You're telling me what the Baltimore
Ravens did in the past.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I did what happened this year.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The Cincinnati Bengals, for the first time in years, have
let the starters play in the preseason. That's to let
you know that there's going to be a difference come
Week one when the regular season starts.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So what the.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Ravens did last year any years before that don't mean
nothing and don't matter when it comes to football season
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, yeah, y'all, defense still suspect.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Team record after winning the MVP in twenty sixteen, Heres
we Go Cam won the MVP in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
there were six and ten.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Matt Ryan wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
In twenty sixteen, they were ten and six and twenty seventeen.
Tom Brady wanted it. In seventeen, they were eleven and five.
Patrick Mahomes wanted. In twenty eighteen, they were twelve and four.
Lamar Jackson in twenty nineteen they were eleven in five.
Rogers won it back to back years in twenty twenty
there were thirteen and four, and in twenty twenty one
they were eighty nine. Mahomes won it again in twenty
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twenty two eleven and six. Lamar Jackson twenty twenty three,
that was twelve and five, Josh Allen twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Will remain to be seen what their record will beat, right.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Zach Wilson put together a solid starting Dolphins second preseason game.
He completed fifteen to twenty three passes one hundred and
fifty one yards on the touchdown. He missed a couple
of would be touchdowns deep throw past, deep past the
deep scritch that was on the thrown. Rookie quinn Ewers
improved his improved on his debut, uh completing eleven of
(22:10):
sixteen with a pair of touchdown to fellow rookie Field
Week's junior.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Hey wait, wait, who did you say had had a
great debut.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What's the name of.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The first name?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
He said, Oh, Zach Wilson. Complete, Yeah, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Zach Wilson. That's my that's my dog. That's that's my dog.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You do realize if if he played for the Dolphins,
y'all probably y'all not going to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Right, we're gonna be straight. We'll be there, We'll be there.
But again, Zach Wilson looked good today. He did Quinn
errors basically how he looked last week yours.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
He looked better than this week.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yes, he did. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's what you want to see.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You want you want to see improvement exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So I like it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I think Dolphins, they're coming at the a f c's
what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think you drinking hunch punch.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If you think if you think, if you think they're
beating Buffalo, that's what I think about that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think you owe something.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And your face whatever, funny, that's.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
What I think. I think you owe something.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Hold on, so you're not wait a minute, I don't
like that.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I don't like the way you you sound.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Whereas if you're trying to say the Dolphins don't have
any chance in the AFC East.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Look, you play football, anything can happen. You ain't gonna
putt no money that the Dolphins gonna be gonna be
the AFC East representative gonna win that division.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So so you're.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Telling me you've already given Buffalo the division already and
we don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Are you just saying that because you have to take
the team with the best quarterback?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Okay, all right, I like where you're going.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm taking you with the best quarterback, taking Josh Allen
over every other quarterback in that division.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Tur Oh, you're you're taking Josh Allen over Drake May?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah you sure, yeah, Okay, I just want I just
want to see what you're gonna say.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Okay, Okay, sure, I am Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
So when Drake May and he god damn Stefan Diggs
look like Mark Dan Marino and Mark Duper and Clayton,
then what you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Say, they still got to do something with Josh Allen? Okay,
b all right, tell somebody Josh is him. I wish
y'all tell you something different. But you're trying to Are.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
You trying to say my quarterback is not him? Trying
to say two is not him?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Can't stay healthy, I can't play in the cold.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't like your attitude, I don't like your tone.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I don't get better. Tell me.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
The funny thing, the fact that you have no confidence
in us.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean that y'all gonna play the game, but I
have no money. I wouldn't put no money on but
on y'all to win the division.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I would not. Y'all probably got great odds too.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You wouldn't put money on the on the Dolphins, the
Dolphins we had?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We Okay? What?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
The answer is no, Listen.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I can't I can't wait. I can't wait the football season.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Me either.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I can't wait the football season because we're gonna have
some nice little side bets.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I'm gonna pay this time.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Just like you did last time. I'm make him asking.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Genty had seven carries for thirty three yards today, Oh Joe.
His thirteen yard run was part of an eight play,
forty one yards going drive that ended ended with him
Pigeon's winning to the end zone for a one yard touchdown.
After the game, Genty said, I've arrived, and it's time
to keep going and make plays for this team. I
don't know if I've ever heard somebody say I've arrived
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in the preseason, but I'm gonna take his word for it.
He ran with a thirty day I like to run.
He had punished the defender lord his shoulder, her I
mean he run with power. I mean he's not he's
not an overly big guy. I mean was he five
eight five to nine, But he's powerfully built. You look
at the way he's built from waist down, you could
tell he's a power He's a power runner.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Listen, Hey, I saw I saw one of the clips
or somebody somebody caught him.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I saw the one we ran dude over. But on
that point somebody caught him. Good did Oh yeah, I
don't know if that was a safety coming down here.
I don't know who it was.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But you you, well, you might want to get word
to him.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You got to pick and choose your battles.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Now, Yeah, he's not going to run through You're not
going to run through people like you did the boys
in State.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
It's a preseason.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
He doesn't he doesn't understand yet, So you're gonna you're
gonna learn real quick.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
What's some grown in at there work.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, so, but I thought, you know, look.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Like Geno. Geno had had great command of the offense.
She was very, very familiar with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
We got it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So it's gonna be interesting to see how the Raiders
do look that that division is good. Yeah, got Mahomes
in that division. They won the division probably like what
in the last eight years, they probably won a division
every year since what twenty six.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Is it twenty eighteen? I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, you got to realize because they had alex Mith,
they won the division. They won the division every year.
Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback and he started
in twenty ninth, twenty eighteen. He got drafted in seventeen.
The last time the Broncos won the division they wanted,
they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
That was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Okay, that was the last.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So since then, since twenty sixteen, the Chiefs has been in.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
But you got Mahomes, you got Herbert, you got Bounettes
and Gino. That's a that's a look. That might be
the second best division in football. As far as quarterbacks,
I think the AFC. I think the AFC North with with.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Hello, NFC East, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, let's see hello, who's doing this C? Yeah? I
think for me it's clear that it's the AFC.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's the AFC North with you know, you got two
of the top four quarterbacks in one division, right right, Okay, Rogers,
and then yeah even with cleveand g we ain't give
it Cleveland nothing with those two, those two top four
guys and Rogers, and then you know, okay, I can
see that. I can see that the NFC East with Russ,
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Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts, d but Mahomes, Justin Herbert bow Knicks. Yeah,
there ain't no slouds now like.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I like both too, man, I really really like both.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I like so.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
If somebody said, if some if someone said I would
take the the a f C West quarterbacks, I wouldn't
fight him no, Because you got Mahomes has been to
five Super Bowls. You got Justin Herbert, you got a
Bowt Nicks. Who's who's up and coming now? Hurt since
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Hurts is one of the super Bowl he's been the two,
Russ has been the two one one. But that where
we where we're putting back. You take Dakla, You take
Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, that's who y'all like. You take Dakla, You take
Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Hey, I mean half the check gonna say, they gonna
say Justin Herbert because they just don't like the damn Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, I think I ain't nothing that kid can't do.
That kid got an arm.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He is im mensely armed, talented, he's more athletic than
you think, and he can flat out throw it.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh Joe, we.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Got great news. Auburn will retire Cam Newton's number two.
Cam became the first SEC player to record a two
thousand yard passing season a one thousand yard Russian season.
He had twenty eight hundred and fifty four yards ten
one hundred and seventy three yards Russian. He accounted for
fifty one touchdowns thirty passing, twenty one Russian, one receiving,
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while helping Auburn go fourteen to oher and winning the
National championship against Oregon. Cam swept the Major College Football
Awards two thousand and one, the Maxwell Walter Camp, the Manning,
the Davy O'Bryan AP Player of the Year, as well
as the Heisman Trophy. Oh Joe, I just got a
simple question to me. Why won't Carolina show that man
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to love that Auburn is shorty?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'm not sure, he said, Remember we did I think
we did the top It was it last year that
he took his son, and there were no pictures of
him on the wall at the facility.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Oh, that's right, he did. He did say that. He
did say that. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
That's something we would have to probably ask him that. Internally,
I'm not sure how to know.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
We have to ask camuse Cam don't know why we
need to ask the organization Jepper.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, I ain't ain't no telling. I ain't no telling
how the ended with Cam, even though we came back,
we this is no telling. You never know, especially for
a quarterback of that magnitude that did the things that
he did for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, took him to the Super Bowl, MVP, Rookie of
the Year, Yeah, Pro Bowler, All Pro. But that's amazing.
Congratulations Cam pay very deserving. I can make a case
that's the greatest college season for a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I know Joe had.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I know Joe numbers, right, Joe ain't throw putting up
those numbers with the receivers that Cam had. Hein't doing that.
And I don't know I think he had one. I
don't think he had an offensive lineman. I mean, did
anybody play more than a year in the NFL on
Cam's team on the offense, because I know he had
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a defensive lineman that went like I think top ten
to the Lions. But if you look at his offensive
weapons and what he was able to.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Do well, Cam was a real deal.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Bate Man. Cam was crazy with it, I mean off
the chain. Yeah. I don't know if we'll never see
Lamar had an unbelievable season.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean the year he won the Heisman, well, actually
the year that he finished that. He the next year
he was even better than the year that he won
the Heisman. If you go back and look at it, Yeah,
because he threw for like thirty five hundred yards and
had fifteen hundred yards Russia.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But congratulations Cam University of Auburn. No one else will
be able to wear the number. Oh Joe DraftKings been
the NFL team of the best nicknames of all time?
Who should be added? Okay, you got the honey Badger,
Tyron Matthew, you got Ted Hendrix, who was the mad Storart,
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Sean Merriman lights out, you got hacksaf Jack Reynolds, you
got the Tasmanian Devil. You got the assassin, Jack Tatle
you got Prime, you got Ed two Tall Jones, you
got the fridge. William Perry, you got the kitchen. Nate Newton,
you got the Minister of the Fifth. Reggie White, Rest
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your soul, Dick Knight train Lane, Rest your soul.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
And then you got Andre bad Moon Rising.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You got big Field Highway sixty three, Jingie Upshaw, bagg
of Donuts, pork Chop, the intellectual Assassin. I don't know
nothing about him. Mega Tron, Mega Tron, got a cool
lega Tron beats Moode Broadway, Joe the Face Cleaver, and
the avatar.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Is that Jimmy Graham is the avatar?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yes, I mean, listen, all of these NFL nicknames are good.
They're all good, but we all know who the best
nickname is of all time.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Dan, you got you up there on I guess we
got to ask. No, they got offense offense, Yeah, Andrew.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Rosen, Yeah, they had nicknames, But I really, I really
embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually
changing my name and reinventing myself in the private of
my career. If that's from a that was from a
branding marketing aspect, so, which makes it obviously the greatest
nickname of all time because I really bought in to
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the character in general, and that character in general has
carried me years beyond the game of football. Hell, I
ain't took a snap and god damn thirty some years.
But I like, I like the intellectual assassin? Who is
that that played for the Chargers?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Is that Ron mixed.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
The intellectual assesssion? That's a good one. And you know
they don't even have they don't, I mean, they don't
have Walter pay. They don't got sweetest on them intellectual say,
but he listen your sinko. I mean, it speaks for
itself the greatest nickname of all time because I actually
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I was a five and when it changed the name,
uh uh understand, I saw a vision Like when I
do spoken word, there's a vision.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
There's a visual long term.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Where if you're not if you're not in deep thought
with me, you're not gonna understand it.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Who's the intellectual Assassin? I ain't never heard of it.
I mean Bambi who was bamby Lance Alworth?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
When's what.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
The Chargers?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Okay, okay, okay, oh he did he ran? He ran
like he ran like, uh, yeah, yeah he was.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Jack Cator was the assassin. Yeah, no, the intellectual assassin,
the Chargers. He was the Chargers John.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Uh uh uh.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Jack Cator rested so either out Ohio State. I thought
it was Rod Mixed. I think he played. I think Ocho.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I think he played like twelve years and had two
holding penalties in twelve years.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, thank you, That's exactly what I said, Jenna Justin.
Jefferson returns to practice his first time in twenty five days.
He continues to recover from a left ham string strain
he suffered last month. He has a history of hamstring injuries.
He missed seven games in twenty twenty three because of
a hamstring string to the other leg, prompt to the
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Vikings to take a slow approach to its recovery. Today,
he participated in warm ups individual drills, but sat out
seven on seven and eleven on eleven. Jefferson won't play
in the Viakans final preseason game, but do expect to
start Week one. He got some embalances or something he
needs to get that looked at.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, what do you think it is?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Especially when it comes to soft Sitsue injuries like that.
On what do you what do you think that comes from?
Because I don't think he has the injury history.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, I don't think he look like he quad dominant.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Sometimes if a muscle overpowers of it will pull, it
will pull. So if you know you quad dominate sometimes
or something, So he might I mean he might need
to get his hips.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He might be out of line or something. Yeah. Yeah, uh,
if he fatigued.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
The muscle, you know, weak weak muscles pulled, right, But
I mean you're dealing with the lead athletes and so
I know they have the best physio and the best
everything around. He might, you know, maybe his mechanics are
off for something. But he might need to take a
look at that.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Hey, uh, I'm not gonna say nothing. I'm not gonna
say nothing obviously. You know my stance when it comes
on too soft tissue injuries. Would you know my stand
on when it comes and getting hurt. But we know
how valuable justin Jeff's to that team, and I'm glad
he took twenty five days and they went slow with him.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I think he's a player.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
That training camp would be beneficial, but the getting back
one hundred percent healthy, So yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
One, he's not one that kneeds training camp like that.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
But I don't want him having to go from zero
to a hundred huh without having to wear and tear
that training can't ring because what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
You get to you get to getting pulled and pushed.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That tug that's why you said hate guys, man, don't
tug me. Hey, if I beat you, just let me go.
Yeah you talk, I'm pulling on you and you tugged me. Yeah,
Now I'm gonna turn it around and swing on you.
That that's that's a that's a tough division because we
saw the Bears, and you and I both think the
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Bears are going to be better this year than they
were last year.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Absolutely, you believe you.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Say, uh uh uh uh. The Lions, I don't see
them taking a step back.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
No, I don't. Then the Packers.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
You like the pack because Jordan loved that receiving course,
Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
So that is a very tough division you can ill afford.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Now they're already gonna be the first three games, they're
gonna be without Jordan Madison because of some issues that
he had off the field. So they're gonna be without
him and the last thing that you need to happen.
A guy coming back from a soft tissue injury and
he retweaks it because now he's probably gonna be down
double the amount of times that he missed it again
with exactly.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, I hope he gets healthy. Oh he stays healthy
because I wanted. I want to see him on the field.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Bless you, thank you. The man don't covered. He covered
MYNF after he doesn't need shoot, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
It creeped up on me.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I know what's coming.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
I ain't know what's coming.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Oh you know we're coming.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Huh h.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Look look pureal? What's that? Pure real? Why are you
using that?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I'm all they when you get me, see, I'm gonna
get you sick of them all the way in Miami.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Well that thing you got right there that day. Say
you might have to eat bowler. I don't know. I
ain't like on you.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I would say that they died in Liberty City. Say
a monkey, Say a monkey got escape. Yeah, say the
monkey had he bowler. Say one of them do from
Liberty City bit the monkey. The monkey bit him. He
had a bowler, right, and the monkey died. So when
the monkey got e.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Bowler. He beat the dude from Liberty City. What he got?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Okay, you're right, you're right, you're right. Ain't no telling,
Ain't no telling.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I'm just trying to figure out how you sneezed and
then cover your mind and say, excuse.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Me, it snuck upon me. I didn't know it was coming. Like,
that's what happened when you're really when you're really sick,
you though, you know, it feels like I got a fever.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I thought you didn't get sick. How you getting sick
and you eat fast food? You ain't supposed to get sick.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Remember, I know it's probably I'm probably going to be
like this under one day. Matter of fact, you could
hear my voice that sound like Barry White. Tonight you
hear most of the time when I talk, I had
I got a high, a high pitch, squeaky voice, but
tonight I sound like like really sexy, like for radio.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Nah. I just try to figure out you told me, Chad.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Y'all have heard this man say, eating a big mask,
eating all that fast food, he don't get sick. I'm
just trying to figure out what's really going on.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Well, technically I'm not sick like I'm still I'm still here.
Is this is a minor setback?
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Are you sick? Did you not say you sick? You
just told us when you signed on that you were sick. Yeah,
so are you Are you not sick? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yes, at like halfway because if I was sick, I
wouldn't be I wouldn't be on here.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
So I'm able to do. I'm able to work, so
I'm not sick sick. So there's a difference.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
So if you work from home, If you work from home,
it's sick and you can't work, right, something really going on?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
But some people, some people when they get sick, sick,
even if they are home, they can't do nothing.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
They can't function.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
See, I'm fighting through it, through it my body on
the inside, you know, my immune system in there like this, right,
and then they're going to work. So on the outside
I'm cold, but on the I mean on the inside,
I'm cold. But on the outside I got the a
C off and I'm sweating. But on the inside I
got chilled. I mean, it's weird. So this doesn't happen
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to me often that at all. So I'm gonna be
all right though, Be all right though.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Man, and Ojo. You know what I hate.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I hate when guys I always i'm I'm a firm believer.
If you live in the season on shoe, you know
how you're coming out of it.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I just hate I hate that for Jenlemen, because man,
you're talking about off to a historic start.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Absolutely, Oh my gosh, I think I think it's gonna
continue though. I think it's gonna be all right, it's
gonna continue.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Mmm, I don't. I don't like I said. That's that's
an extremely tough division. You can ill afford to have
him and Addison out. Plus you got J. J. J.
McCartney who's in his second year, but this really his
first year starting. You're asking an awful lot. You're asking
an awful lot of a young quarterback to go out
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there and and and and to do what you need
him to do. What I just wanted to say, I
just I just hope A Jella can stay healthy for
the entire season. They're gonna they're gonna need him. They
got no chance, They got no chance. Remember kJ R
kJ Osborne is in Washington, Washington. Now, Yeah, Addison is
gonna miss the first three, and then you know, he
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warmed up to day, but like you said, he didn't
do seven on seven, he didn't do eleven on eleven,
and he's not gonna play in the final preseason game,
which is Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
So boy, and it just to turn a and then
in ten days just go.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm hoping, I'm hoping he's gonna be
all right.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
M h
Oh, Joe Eagles.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Jim hy Roseman speaks on the mistake and the regret
of not drafting Justin Jefferson. I think there's one who's
pretty obvious, one guy didn't draft that's going to the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The mistakes kill me. I made. It made me made
me think, why are we picking certain guys?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
But if we don't make that mistake like that, we
probably don't play in two Super Bowls in the last
three years. Don't overthink things when you're staring at a
good player, just take them. Not drafting JJ still haunts
him to this day. Yes, because because think about who
you took, and look the guy that he took. I
played with his father, Monte Rigor. Jalen Rigor is his son. Yes,
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he got in awe of all the jumping high and
running fast, and he overlooked the production that that that
JJ Jenna gave him on the field. I asked Ozzie Newsom,
who's one of the best gms to do it? Drafted
John his first two players he ever selected, with Jonathan
Ogden and ray Lewis right. He selected, he selected Suggs,
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He selected Lamar Jackson, he selected Ed Reid. We know,
we know what he's been able to do. And I
asked him, saying, Ozzie Suggs, Oh Joe. He said, Suggs
ran four eight five with tights and track spikes. I said, well,
why the hell you take a man that run four
eight five? He said, SHAWNA, somebody got twenty three sacks.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Somebody could bend to edge. I don't need to run
forty yards. I did need to run ten right, and
he can get off the ball. So I believe, he said,
I'll never forget this. He said, I believe what my
eyes tell me. He says, yes. When I'm watch him
film and a guy looks fast, he looks explosive, he
looks strong. Hopefully he comes to the combine, Hopefully he
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tests well. But if he doesn't, I face most of
what I what I'm judging on by what I see
on tape.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm gonna trust my eyes. How we didn't trust his eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
He got enamored by OJO four three fourth sub four
or four four he got, and he got enamored by
forty plus edge vertical. He got enamored by things that
doesn't necessarily equate to be a girl. Because if that
was the case Hill, I just go get me a
track guy.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do you see when when Noah loves is warming up,
did you see how high he jumps up in the
damn air?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, his feet, his heels, all right, the height of
somebody's head. So that lets you know, first of all,
if a god that fast, you know he's explosive. O yoe.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, absolutely, Look at Tyreek. You say, Tyreek did them
back flip? You say, you say, you gotta see this
joke in pert, Yes, you could tell he's explosive. Go ahead,
what you want to say about what you think about
how he said admitting that he made a mistake not drafting.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Jenna, Well you know that that happens. That happens.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Obviously, it's the eye test going to come to scouts, GMS, coaches,
and in personnel in general based off the eye tests
and not looking at numbers.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You look at Justin Jefferson, and you look at.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Jalen Riger and you'll pick Jalen Rigor based on what
you see when it comes to the aesthetics of the
position in itself. So I can understand where he calls
it he calls a mistake. Actually it's not a mistake
because let's say you did go get Jettis, you might
not have the Super Bowls that you have.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You know, you might not you know, things would have
been different.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So everything went exactly how I was supposed to have
supposed to go.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Actually, but I'm I'm upset.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, he stumbled into it because guess what the next year,
Demonte Smith came out and he was able to trade
down to get Demontes Smith, and a couple of years
later you traded.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Two.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It did work yourself out. I was kind of upset.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I really wanted I really wanted brother Jalen Riger to
to be be great at the position because he had
all all that intangibles to be just that.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I think one of the things with him is mentally.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Mentally, I think I think he had lost his confidence
at some point and he just wasn't able to regain
it back. Because he has all the particular potential in
the world to be one of the best in the league.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
He just wasn't able to put it all together.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Hey uncle Ocho, Uh, do you think they put too
much emphasis on like the testing to combine. Yeah, when
when it comes to football, meaning because there are some
guys who will not test well when it comes to
come by agilly quickness right vertical, But when you put
them in between the lines, the lights come on. They
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just know how to play bro, you know what I mean.
That's for basketball and football. But I see that. I
see that in a lot of guys this year, obviously
from watching Shadua, you know, I know, I know we
talk about him a lot, but he looks like one
of those type of guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
When you get him in between the lines, he just
knows how to play bro. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah, he'll no, he probably ain't gonna test well and
no combine and no forty or no vertical leap, but
none of.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, if somebody goes to the combine, they might not
be U. He just had a tearing armstead he goes
to the combine to run for six. Now people looking
at it. Yeah, you coulda got go there and they
might not be hurt. Or he might be a low
go run for three. Yeah, because I can teach you
everything else. I can teach you to catch, I can
(05:15):
teach you the back, I can teach you to drop.
I can't teach you how to run fast. Either you
got that in you or you don't.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
But but also also as a given a curse being
able to run that goddamn fast and them believing you
becoming a project coming too the NFL. Well, we can
teach you all the intangibles you know to become a
great player whatever position you do play.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Sometimes it's hard. Sometimes it's too late.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Because if you're already in the NFL and you've been
able to get by, you've been able to get by
without the technique all this time.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, well you got the technique.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
At the next level, you're gonna get exposed anyway, no
matter how goddamn fast you are.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
At that next level.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Everybody run full three at the skill position, damn yere. Everybody,
even the people that run for five or run for six,
that play receiver or not, they know how, they know
how to manipulate all those are fast to be able.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
To get open and create somethreation.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So just an addage, like it's like having a car
and you're throwing rims on them and once you okay,
that's the speed. In general, it's great to have, but
you don't necessarily need it to be successful at what you.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Do when to use it. Have you ever heard anybody
say size kill? Have you ever heard somebody say a
strength killed? What do they say kill? O?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Jo?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Speed?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Speed?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, yeah, speed.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I can't teach you that, they say, Well he talking. No no, no,
no no.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I can teach you technique to make you faster than
what you are.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But that's in you.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
If you think somebody like got that, U saying boat
was already fast. It was always in him. He just
found somebody to get it out of him. Yes, sir, so,
now Ocho, you look at it. We look at guys
and they're like, man, what did everybody say? I just
ain't nobody saying I want to do twenty four reps.
(07:03):
Ain't nobody saying I want to do forty inch vertical
forty everybody saying I want to run I want to
run four three. I want to run four two, because
that's what's gonna grab the attention.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
When Chris Johnson ran that four two.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Four yeah yeah, John Rasss got drafted in the first
round because he ran four two to two.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He couldn't stay healthy in college. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So if you can't, o Joe, if you can't stay
healthy in college, what makes you think you're gonna be
able to stay health in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Right, hey, Zaber, you're worthy.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, he goes to run four two one O, Joe.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah moving, So I got a question ahead ahead. Excuse
me if I'm wrong, Joe. Hey, when you watch Xavier
Worthy despite his forty times, doesn't look he doesn't look
as explosive.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And when I read he does not Tyreek look like,
it's like right now, I'm he gone.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But if David Worthy ran a faster combine time, but
he doesn't look that fast until he gets gone.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's like he's a building. He's a build up guy.
You know some some cars don't, Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You just like an electric versus gas.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Like if you if anybody out there have an electric car,
you know you step on it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It doesn't require that spark. It's gone.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, you look at you look at Tyreek. Tyreek look
when you watch Tyreek run. When you watch the very
first time, I said, damn, but he looked. I said,
maybe it's maybe it's me. I said, some people just
look fast. You know what I'm saying, Joe. We feel
it's one thing to like to see a person up
close and personal. But to watch somebody from the television,
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it say damn. But he looked fast. The imagine person
Tyreek looks explosive. You could tell, but you can tell
the way you build. Look at look at how compact
he is. Look at the muscle, the musculature. You could
tell the way he walked. Oh yeah, you could look
at certain guys. Oh he could do a backlip, Yeah
(09:08):
yeah he could, he could do certain path That's how Tyree.
Tyreek looks like that exam Your worth is fast. But
you got to realize your word is what one sixty
Tyreek like one real?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You think?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So Tyreek?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah he lost weight, he lost he remember he said
that he dropped weight, so he might be.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Five?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, so might he might save?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You're worthy like one sixty five and.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You know, Xavi, you're worthy. You might remind me of that.
Ain't the same type of runner style. They have the
same gate too, And it looked like they're not running
until somebody trying to catch him or the ball is.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
In the air.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That goddamn Ted then yeah, yeah, Ted, yes, yeah you
mind you I don't know if you remember him.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh Jo James Jet yea from the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, he jet were Alter on the four on the
four by one that won the gold medal in ninety
two at the Olympics. Uh huh, Lord have mercy. You know,
the Raider has always been a namor with the speed.
They've always had the fans had guys that can run fast.
They had Willie god Who, they had Sam Graddy who
won the silvil medal in the Olympics was on the
(10:19):
four by four and eighty dot.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
They had Swerving Mervyn for nan dance. They've always had
guys that could fly at that position. You remember when
they drafted days Darius Heyward bay o Jo because he
ran four three two.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Now catching the football was a problem. Running fast was
not a problem.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Love, because you can have all that speed, but if
you don't know how to use it and.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Get open Hell's it's useless. Yeah that's what And I
tell people, man, you not that fast. I said, all
speed do is get you to the safety faster to
get knocked out. This this, this folk, this four five,
four six is pretty fast enough. It is all you
do is to get to that safety. So dropped the
ham on you. But look, you're gonna make mistake, But
(11:07):
think about what you've done. You drafted Jalen Hurts, You
drafted Jalen Carter, You drafted Jordan Davis Cooper de John,
you drafted Landon Dickerson. Look at the guy you found,
Jordan Mylotta Look at the guy. Damn, how are you
what you want to be? Howard the baseball player that
mad that he struck out, he done, got three home
(11:27):
runs of a double, he's straight out of lambs played
appears He's like, damn, I'm left up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But bro, Howie, Bro, you that Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Look at the pigs that he's got no Joe since
he got that wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Listen, he's playing, he's playing humble. Obviously, I don't think
how he understands.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Listen. I'm not a part of of of.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
NFL offices or or or management or gms or people
in positions of power. But if anything but Howie and
and and Jeffrey Lourie have done the past what I have.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Sick.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, they'd a goddamn blueprint on how to operate and
build a winning team.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I mean to me, look at the defense, hell, look
at the offense. So if I'm in the NFL, and
I'm an executive of some sort. Hey, we need to
piggyback and steal what they're doing over here.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's a copycat league anyway, feel people watching film and
stealing stuff that works the previous week on the opponent
that you're playing.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Hell, they might as well do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's easy to say than done. You don't think, hey, man,
I could do that. I might go across over the country,
but you don't. You're not Beyonce. But man, you see
what Mike.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You not Michael, You're not Primps, you're not Usher.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So it's easy to say this is what you should do,
but you're not wanted them to be able to do it.
It's easy to say, man, you see what how we doing,
but you ain't got how he's I You don't know
what how he's looking for. We need look for a
particular player. Yeah, it's either say, man, look at Ozzie.
They're joking. How many Hall of Famers did the draft?
Jonathan and ray Lewis on the think the all said
(13:02):
the hundred Anniversary team, And so you got three guys
that's on the hundreds Anniversary team. Hey, three guys first
battle Hall of Famer Sugs is gonna be in the
Hall of Fame. Labar Jackson is going to be in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
The funny thing when I think about is Joe is
Joe just said it clear as day earlier. When the
lights are on, what do they look like in between
those landla on the grass. There's a lot of film
and everybody before you drafting, Yes, yea, god damn, it's
common sense. I don't care what you ran the forty end.
Let's say you did run a slow time. How am
I gonna knock you when I know what I'm getting
when it's time to play the actual game of football.
(13:38):
The game of football isn't isn't ran. It's not it's
not It's not played in the straight line anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
This ain't track.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So halving speed is just another great factor to add
to what you can.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Do, jem huh.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Jared Rice might be the slowest receiver in the hall.
Technical sound, random text.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
He was technically sound, but he had he had something
we call football speed.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what you need speed. It's a different and we
know it might be this Sloyd running back. He got
the most rushing yards. Yeah, So when you look at
it we do. We put a lot of emphasis on
speed ojo. But at the end of the day, can
you play the game of football?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That's it. Listen, this ain't the Olympics. Hey, we got Olympians.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We're gonna let Noahllows, were gonna let kee it in there,
We're gonna let ride, We're gonna let the handle of that.
Can you play football? Because at the end of the day,
we play a game called football, and it's not in
a straight line. You would have to move, you would
have to be You're gonna have to be have to react.
And the number one thing, you can't be a front Look,
there's a certain level. It's hard to say a player
(14:48):
soft because it takes a certain type of crazy. It
takes a certain type of person to play the game
of football.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, not not anymore not doing your error doing my area,
its doing my error.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Take a certain level of crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
The way the game is now where it's favored in
his handicapped the defense. Now you got players out there
catching with one hand man.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And why you see all them go across the middle.
Hey and take it selfie, hey boy in buff.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But Joe back boy, Joe back in the two thousands, boy,
but in the early two thousands and.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Across that middle alligator on.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Man listen is that man, I don't want no party.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Terry McLaurin came up the pupp list a mere contract
tensions with the Commanders. Despite the contracts stand up hold
his trade request, Terry McClure will soon be practicing with
the Commanders. The team announced today that he has been
activated from the pup list. O Joe, could Terry removal
from the pup list mean contract extension is on the way?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Probably, probably something is looming. They're almost there. It's probably
not where it needs to be, but the fact that
they think they are gonna practice is a good thing.
He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt,
if I'm not mistake. He'll be able to get two
weeks under his belt before he's able to play. Before
he was able to play in a live game, which
(16:24):
should be September. I'm assuming what September? What seventh? Maybe
or thirteenth?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
O Joe?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
What at?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
No? In a live game, a real game. He didn't
missed the e didn't miss the preseason.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh yea yeah yah yah yah yea yeah yah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
He's definitely not going to play the last pre season game.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
No, So.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I'm hoping. I'm hoping.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I pray once he gets paid, no setbacks, no injuries,
it's going to be so different.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
It's going to be so different. The fact that he
wouldn't able to go through training camp.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Oh till you till the word right up, I'm saying
to myself, and I'm thinking to myself, and I say, I.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Know what you're thinking. This man.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I could not imagine not playing a meaningful game in
eight nine months, in my first game, in my first
real game. It's gonna be a real I couldn't imagine it,
don't Joe would.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I wouldn't want that. No, hell no, I would.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I would tell honestly, I would tell my agent, Listen,
if we get this deal done, I'm gonna go practice.
If there's a chance that we're getting this deal done,
I'm gonna go practice because I need people pushing, I
need people pulling.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I need to be fighting through contact. Yes, right, man,
forget that, man, because.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I'm telling you, the body would tear up. The body
would tear up trying to go from zero to a
hunted without putting it through that that rigor moroad.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's what I'm gonna calling you.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Gotta condition your body, yeah, for the stresses that it's
gonna endure during the season. In order to run fast,
you got to practice fast. You hear what she said, Hey,
I wanted to be on the ground. It's hard. Would
you miss that kind of time? Oh Joe, You're not
gonna miss that kind of time and just pick right up.
(18:15):
It's just not you sit and and I agree with you.
You kind of like you just just hold your breath
like man. Please, no soft tissue injury. No soft tissue
injuries please. No growing, no quaws, no hamstring, no calves,
no adductors, none of that, because, like you said, oh Joe,
(18:36):
you going just like that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You've been cruising. You've been cruising and then all of
a sudden.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Step on the gas out the blue and what normally happens.
Something got to give.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yep man. But hopefully they can come to an agreement
real soon. The Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs
couldn't make NFL. In Super Bowl history this upcoming season,
there have only been one instance in which two franchises
have played each other three times in the Super Bowl,
and that's the Dallas Cowboys Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Seventy five, seventy nine, ninety five.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
After the Eagles faced one another two or the three
big games the Chiefs are currently they have the highest
odds to be a matchup for Super Bowl. What is
that sixty sixty in February of twenty twenty six. This
would make the franchises the second of their kind to
play one another on three separate occasions on the biggest stage.
To add, no other quarterbacks in the history. No quarterbacks
(19:39):
have ever faced each other three times in the Super Bowl,
something Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes have a chance to do.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I mean it sounds good, but you want me to
tell you, coming coming out of AFC this.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Year, you got to worry about winning your division. You
ain't coming out of no.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Have you noticed the Bengals have been playing in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right yep?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
All I know.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
All I know is when Al Jacket is on the field,
Cincinnati can't win.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I just want to I just won't even remember.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I bet Al jack If on the field, Cincinnati can't win.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
This is the new year.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You think about the past I'm trying to understand why
you think about the past, and this is twenty were
in twenty twenty five. You're telling me what the Baltimore
Ravens did in the past.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I did what happened this year.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The Cincinnati Bengals, for the first time in years, have
let the starters play in the preseason. That's to let
you know that there's going to be a difference come
Week one when the regular season starts.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So what the.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Ravens did last year any years before that don't mean
nothing and don't matter when it comes to football season
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, yeah, y'all, defense still suspect.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Team record after winning the MVP in twenty sixteen, Heres
we Go Cam won the MVP in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
there were six and ten.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Matt Ryan wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
In twenty sixteen, they were ten and six and twenty seventeen.
Tom Brady wanted it. In seventeen, they were eleven and five.
Patrick Mahomes wanted. In twenty eighteen, they were twelve and four.
Lamar Jackson in twenty nineteen they were eleven in five.
Rogers won it back to back years in twenty twenty
there were thirteen and four, and in twenty twenty one
they were eighty nine. Mahomes won it again in twenty
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twenty two eleven and six. Lamar Jackson twenty twenty three,
that was twelve and five, Josh Allen twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Will remain to be seen what their record will beat, right.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Zach Wilson put together a solid starting Dolphins second preseason game.
He completed fifteen to twenty three passes one hundred and
fifty one yards on the touchdown. He missed a couple
of would be touchdowns deep throw past, deep past the
deep scritch that was on the thrown. Rookie quinn Ewers
improved his improved on his debut, uh completing eleven of
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sixteen with a pair of touchdown to fellow rookie Field
Week's junior.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Hey wait, wait, who did you say had had a
great debut.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What's the name of.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The first name?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
He said, Oh, Zach Wilson. Complete, Yeah, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Zach Wilson. That's my that's my dog. That's that's my dog.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You do realize if if he played for the Dolphins,
y'all probably y'all not going to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Right, we're gonna be straight. We'll be there, We'll be there.
But again, Zach Wilson looked good today. He did Quinn
errors basically how he looked last week yours.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
He looked better than this week.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yes, he did. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's what you want to see.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You want you want to see improvement exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So I like it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I think Dolphins, they're coming at the a f c's
what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think you drinking hunch punch.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If you think if you think, if you think they're
beating Buffalo, that's what I think about that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think you owe something.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And your face whatever, funny, that's.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
What I think. I think you owe something.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Hold on, so you're not wait a minute, I don't
like that.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I don't like the way you you sound.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Whereas if you're trying to say the Dolphins don't have
any chance in the AFC East.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Look, you play football, anything can happen. You ain't gonna
putt no money that the Dolphins gonna be gonna be
the AFC East representative gonna win that division.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So so you're.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Telling me you've already given Buffalo the division already and
we don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Are you just saying that because you have to take
the team with the best quarterback?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Okay, all right, I like where you're going.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm taking you with the best quarterback, taking Josh Allen
over every other quarterback in that division.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Tur Oh, you're you're taking Josh Allen over Drake May?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah you sure, yeah, Okay, I just want I just
want to see what you're gonna say.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Okay, Okay, sure, I am Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
So when Drake May and he god damn Stefan Diggs
look like Mark Dan Marino and Mark Duper and Clayton,
then what you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Say, they still got to do something with Josh Allen? Okay,
b all right, tell somebody Josh is him. I wish
y'all tell you something different. But you're trying to Are.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
You trying to say my quarterback is not him? Trying
to say two is not him?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Can't stay healthy, I can't play in the cold.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't like your attitude, I don't like your tone.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I don't get better. Tell me.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
The funny thing, the fact that you have no confidence
in us.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean that y'all gonna play the game, but I
have no money. I wouldn't put no money on but
on y'all to win the division.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I would not. Y'all probably got great odds too.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You wouldn't put money on the on the Dolphins, the
Dolphins we had?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We Okay? What?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
The answer is no, Listen.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I can't I can't wait. I can't wait the football season.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Me either.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I can't wait the football season because we're gonna have
some nice little side bets.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I'm gonna pay this time.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Just like you did last time. I'm make him asking.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Genty had seven carries for thirty three yards today, Oh Joe.
His thirteen yard run was part of an eight play,
forty one yards going drive that ended ended with him
Pigeon's winning to the end zone for a one yard touchdown.
After the game, Genty said, I've arrived, and it's time
to keep going and make plays for this team. I
don't know if I've ever heard somebody say I've arrived
(26:24):
in the preseason, but I'm gonna take his word for it.
He ran with a thirty day I like to run.
He had punished the defender lord his shoulder, her I
mean he run with power. I mean he's not he's
not an overly big guy. I mean was he five
eight five to nine, But he's powerfully built. You look
at the way he's built from waist down, you could
tell he's a power He's a power runner.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Listen, Hey, I saw I saw one of the clips
or somebody somebody caught him.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I saw the one we ran dude over. But on
that point somebody caught him. Good did Oh yeah, I
don't know if that was a safety coming down here.
I don't know who it was.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But you you, well, you might want to get word
to him.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You got to pick and choose your battles.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Now, Yeah, he's not going to run through You're not
going to run through people like you did the boys
in State.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
It's a preseason.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
He doesn't he doesn't understand yet, So you're gonna you're
gonna learn real quick.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
What's some grown in at there work.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, so, but I thought, you know, look.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Like Geno. Geno had had great command of the offense.
She was very, very familiar with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
We got it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So it's gonna be interesting to see how the Raiders
do look that that division is good. Yeah, got Mahomes
in that division. They won the division probably like what
in the last eight years, they probably won a division
every year since what twenty six.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Is it twenty eighteen? I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, you got to realize because they had alex Mith,
they won the division. They won the division every year.
Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback and he started
in twenty ninth, twenty eighteen. He got drafted in seventeen.
The last time the Broncos won the division they wanted,
they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
That was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Okay, that was the last.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So since then, since twenty sixteen, the Chiefs has been in.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
But you got Mahomes, you got Herbert, you got Bounettes
and Gino. That's a that's a look. That might be
the second best division in football. As far as quarterbacks,
I think the AFC. I think the AFC North with with.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Hello, NFC East, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, let's see hello, who's doing this C? Yeah? I
think for me it's clear that it's the AFC.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's the AFC North with you know, you got two
of the top four quarterbacks in one division, right right, Okay, Rogers,
and then yeah even with cleveand g we ain't give
it Cleveland nothing with those two, those two top four
guys and Rogers, and then you know, okay, I can
see that. I can see that the NFC East with Russ,
(29:12):
Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts, d but Mahomes, Justin Herbert bow Knicks. Yeah,
there ain't no slouds now like.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I like both too, man, I really really like both.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I like so.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
If somebody said, if some if someone said I would
take the the a f C West quarterbacks, I wouldn't
fight him no, Because you got Mahomes has been to
five Super Bowls. You got Justin Herbert, you got a
Bowt Nicks. Who's who's up and coming now? Hurt since
(29:50):
Hurts is one of the super Bowl he's been the two,
Russ has been the two one one. But that where
we where we're putting back. You take Dakla, You take
Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, that's who y'all like. You take Dakla, You take
Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Hey, I mean half the check gonna say, they gonna
say Justin Herbert because they just don't like the damn Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, I think I ain't nothing that kid can't do.
That kid got an arm.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He is im mensely armed, talented, he's more athletic than
you think, and he can flat out throw it.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh Joe, we.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Got great news. Auburn will retire Cam Newton's number two.
Cam became the first SEC player to record a two
thousand yard passing season a one thousand yard Russian season.
He had twenty eight hundred and fifty four yards ten
one hundred and seventy three yards Russian. He accounted for
fifty one touchdowns thirty passing, twenty one Russian, one receiving,
(31:07):
while helping Auburn go fourteen to oher and winning the
National championship against Oregon. Cam swept the Major College Football
Awards two thousand and one, the Maxwell Walter Camp, the Manning,
the Davy O'Bryan AP Player of the Year, as well
as the Heisman Trophy. Oh Joe, I just got a
simple question to me. Why won't Carolina show that man
(31:30):
to love that Auburn is shorty?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'm not sure, he said, Remember we did I think
we did the top It was it last year that
he took his son, and there were no pictures of
him on the wall at the facility.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Oh, that's right, he did. He did say that. He
did say that. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
That's something we would have to probably ask him that. Internally,
I'm not sure how to know.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
We have to ask camuse Cam don't know why we
need to ask the organization Jepper.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, I ain't ain't no telling. I ain't no telling
how the ended with Cam, even though we came back,
we this is no telling. You never know, especially for
a quarterback of that magnitude that did the things that
he did for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, took him to the Super Bowl, MVP, Rookie of
the Year, Yeah, Pro Bowler, All Pro. But that's amazing.
Congratulations Cam pay very deserving. I can make a case
that's the greatest college season for a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I know Joe had.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I know Joe numbers, right, Joe ain't throw putting up
those numbers with the receivers that Cam had. Hein't doing that.
And I don't know I think he had one. I
don't think he had an offensive lineman. I mean, did
anybody play more than a year in the NFL on
Cam's team on the offense, because I know he had
(32:51):
a defensive lineman that went like I think top ten
to the Lions. But if you look at his offensive
weapons and what he was able to.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Do well, Cam was a real deal.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Bate Man. Cam was crazy with it, I mean off
the chain. Yeah. I don't know if we'll never see
Lamar had an unbelievable season.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean the year he won the Heisman, well, actually
the year that he finished that. He the next year
he was even better than the year that he won
the Heisman. If you go back and look at it, Yeah,
because he threw for like thirty five hundred yards and
had fifteen hundred yards Russia.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But congratulations Cam University of Auburn. No one else will
be able to wear the number. Oh Joe DraftKings been
the NFL team of the best nicknames of all time?
Who should be added? Okay, you got the honey Badger,
Tyron Matthew, you got Ted Hendrix, who was the mad Storart,
(33:57):
Sean Merriman lights out, you got hacksaf Jack Reynolds, you
got the Tasmanian Devil. You got the assassin, Jack Tatle
you got Prime, you got Ed two Tall Jones, you
got the fridge. William Perry, you got the kitchen. Nate Newton,
you got the Minister of the Fifth. Reggie White, Rest
(34:20):
your soul, Dick Knight train Lane, Rest your soul.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
And then you got Andre bad Moon Rising.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You got big Field Highway sixty three, Jingie Upshaw, bagg
of Donuts, pork Chop, the intellectual Assassin. I don't know
nothing about him. Mega Tron, Mega Tron, got a cool
lega Tron beats Moode Broadway, Joe the Face Cleaver, and
the avatar.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Is that Jimmy Graham is the avatar?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yes, I mean, listen, all of these NFL nicknames are good.
They're all good, but we all know who the best
nickname is of all time.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Dan, you got you up there on I guess we
got to ask. No, they got offense offense, Yeah, Andrew.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Rosen, Yeah, they had nicknames, But I really, I really
embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually
changing my name and reinventing myself in the private of
my career. If that's from a that was from a
branding marketing aspect, so, which makes it obviously the greatest
nickname of all time because I really bought in to
(35:26):
the character in general, and that character in general has
carried me years beyond the game of football. Hell, I
ain't took a snap and god damn thirty some years.
But I like, I like the intellectual assassin? Who is
that that played for the Chargers?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Is that Ron mixed.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
The intellectual assesssion? That's a good one. And you know
they don't even have they don't, I mean, they don't
have Walter pay. They don't got sweetest on them intellectual say,
but he listen your sinko. I mean, it speaks for
itself the greatest nickname of all time because I actually
(36:08):
I was a five and when it changed the name,
uh uh understand, I saw a vision Like when I
do spoken word, there's a vision.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
There's a visual long term.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Where if you're not if you're not in deep thought
with me, you're not gonna understand it.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Who's the intellectual Assassin? I ain't never heard of it.
I mean Bambi who was bamby Lance Alworth?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
When's what.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
The Chargers?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Okay, okay, okay, oh he did he ran? He ran
like he ran like, uh, yeah, yeah he was.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Jack Cator was the assassin. Yeah, no, the intellectual assassin,
the Chargers. He was the Chargers John.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Uh uh uh.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Jack Cator rested so either out Ohio State. I thought
it was Rod Mixed. I think he played. I think Ocho.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I think he played like twelve years and had two
holding penalties in twelve years.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, thank you, That's exactly what I said, Jenna Justin.
Jefferson returns to practice his first time in twenty five days.
He continues to recover from a left ham string strain
he suffered last month. He has a history of hamstring injuries.
He missed seven games in twenty twenty three because of
a hamstring string to the other leg, prompt to the
(37:43):
Vikings to take a slow approach to its recovery. Today,
he participated in warm ups individual drills, but sat out
seven on seven and eleven on eleven. Jefferson won't play
in the Viakans final preseason game, but do expect to
start Week one. He got some embalances or something he
needs to get that looked at.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, what do you think it is?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Especially when it comes to soft Sitsue injuries like that.
On what do you what do you think that comes from?
Because I don't think he has the injury history.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, I don't think he look like he quad dominant.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Sometimes if a muscle overpowers of it will pull, it
will pull. So if you know you quad dominate sometimes
or something, So he might I mean he might need
to get his hips.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He might be out of line or something. Yeah. Yeah, uh,
if he fatigued.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
The muscle, you know, weak weak muscles pulled, right, But
I mean you're dealing with the lead athletes and so
I know they have the best physio and the best
everything around. He might, you know, maybe his mechanics are
off for something. But he might need to take a
look at that.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Hey, uh, I'm not gonna say nothing. I'm not gonna
say nothing obviously. You know my stance when it comes
on too soft tissue injuries. Would you know my stand
on when it comes and getting hurt. But we know
how valuable justin Jeff's to that team, and I'm glad
he took twenty five days and they went slow with him.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I think he's a player.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
That training camp would be beneficial, but the getting back
one hundred percent healthy, So yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
One, he's not one that kneeds training camp like that.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
But I don't want him having to go from zero
to a hundred huh without having to wear and tear
that training can't ring because what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
You get to you get to getting pulled and pushed.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That tug that's why you said hate guys, man, don't
tug me. Hey, if I beat you, just let me go.
Yeah you talk, I'm pulling on you and you tugged me. Yeah,
Now I'm gonna turn it around and swing on you.
That that's that's a that's a tough division because we
saw the Bears, and you and I both think the
(39:45):
Bears are going to be better this year than they
were last year.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Absolutely, you believe you.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Say, uh uh uh uh. The Lions, I don't see
them taking a step back.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
No, I don't. Then the Packers.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
You like the pack because Jordan loved that receiving course,
Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
So that is a very tough division you can ill afford.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Now they're already gonna be the first three games, they're
gonna be without Jordan Madison because of some issues that
he had off the field. So they're gonna be without
him and the last thing that you need to happen.
A guy coming back from a soft tissue injury and
he retweaks it because now he's probably gonna be down
double the amount of times that he missed it again
with exactly.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, I hope he gets healthy. Oh he stays healthy
because I wanted. I want to see him on the field.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Bless you, thank you. The man don't covered. He covered
MYNF after he doesn't need shoot, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
It creeped up on me.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I know what's coming.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
I ain't know what's coming.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Oh you know we're coming.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Huh h.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Look look pureal? What's that? Pure real? Why are you
using that?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I'm all they when you get me, see, I'm gonna
get you sick of them all the way in Miami.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Well that thing you got right there that day. Say
you might have to eat bowler. I don't know. I
ain't like on you.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I would say that they died in Liberty City. Say
a monkey, Say a monkey got escape. Yeah, say the
monkey had he bowler. Say one of them do from
Liberty City bit the monkey. The monkey bit him. He
had a bowler, right, and the monkey died. So when
the monkey got e.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Bowler. He beat the dude from Liberty City. What he got?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Okay, you're right, you're right, you're right. Ain't no telling,
Ain't no telling.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I'm just trying to figure out how you sneezed and
then cover your mind and say, excuse.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Me, it snuck upon me. I didn't know it was coming. Like,
that's what happened when you're really when you're really sick,
you though, you know, it feels like I got a fever.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I thought you didn't get sick. How you getting sick
and you eat fast food? You ain't supposed to get sick.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Remember, I know it's probably I'm probably going to be
like this under one day. Matter of fact, you could
hear my voice that sound like Barry White. Tonight you
hear most of the time when I talk, I had
I got a high, a high pitch, squeaky voice, but
tonight I sound like like really sexy, like for radio.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Nah. I just try to figure out you told me, Chad.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Y'all have heard this man say, eating a big mask,
eating all that fast food, he don't get sick. I'm
just trying to figure out what's really going on.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Well, technically I'm not sick like I'm still I'm still here.
Is this is a minor setback?
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Are you sick? Did you not say you sick? You
just told us when you signed on that you were sick. Yeah,
so are you Are you not sick? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yes, at like halfway because if I was sick, I
wouldn't be I wouldn't be on here.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
So I'm able to do. I'm able to work, so
I'm not sick sick. So there's a difference.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
So if you work from home, If you work from home,
it's sick and you can't work, right, something really going on?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
But some people, some people when they get sick, sick,
even if they are home, they can't do nothing.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
They can't function.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
See, I'm fighting through it, through it my body on
the inside, you know, my immune system in there like this, right,
and then they're going to work. So on the outside
I'm cold, but on the I mean on the inside,
I'm cold. But on the outside I got the a
C off and I'm sweating. But on the inside I
got chilled. I mean, it's weird. So this doesn't happen
(43:20):
to me often that at all. So I'm gonna be
all right though, Be all right though.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Man, and Ojo. You know what I hate.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I hate when guys I always i'm I'm a firm believer.
If you live in the season on shoe, you know
how you're coming out of it.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I just hate I hate that for Jenlemen, because man,
you're talking about off to a historic start.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Absolutely, Oh my gosh, I think I think it's gonna
continue though. I think it's gonna be all right, it's
gonna continue.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Mmm, I don't. I don't like I said. That's that's
an extremely tough division. You can ill afford to have
him and Addison out. Plus you got J. J. J.
McCartney who's in his second year, but this really his
first year starting. You're asking an awful lot. You're asking
an awful lot of a young quarterback to go out
(44:10):
there and and and and to do what you need
him to do. What I just wanted to say, I
just I just hope A Jella can stay healthy for
the entire season. They're gonna they're gonna need him. They
got no chance, They got no chance. Remember kJ R
kJ Osborne is in Washington, Washington. Now, Yeah, Addison is
gonna miss the first three, and then you know, he
(44:33):
warmed up to day, but like you said, he didn't
do seven on seven, he didn't do eleven on eleven,
and he's not gonna play in the final preseason game,
which is Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
So boy, and it just to turn a and then
in ten days just go.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm hoping, I'm hoping he's gonna be
all right.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
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