November 21, 2025 • 65 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver the BEST of the NFL week! Unc and Ocho break down CeeDee Lamb admitting he and George Pickens broke curfew, react to Shedeur Sanders earning his first NFL start and the massive pressure on the Browns rookie, and discuss the devastating ACL tear to Falcons QB Michael Penix Jr. and what it means for Raheem Morris’ future in Atlanta.
0:00 - Michael Penix Jr. suffers partially torn ACL14:45 - CeeDee Lamb & George Pickens missed Vegas curfew22:12 - Pickens wants to stay in Dallas31:41 - "something else going on" with Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown44:54 - Joe Burrow returns to practice
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Oh, Joe got the bad news.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
According to Adam Schefter, Michael Penick suffered a partially torn
ACL in Sunday's game and is lost against the Panthers.
Pennix is seeking a second of opinion, but this is
not encouraging. This is expected to be the fifth season
inding injury for Pinnis in his eight college and NFL seasons.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Fifth third ACL.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He towards ACL in twenty twenty, I mean, excuse me,
in twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, and now he has a
partially toward a CL in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Damn oh wait.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So so out of eight years he's been he's been
injured five of eight yep, college including.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He's an inding see because one year I think he
had a shoulder injury.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes, I think when he was at Indiana. If I'm
not I might be wrong. I could be wrong, but
I think when he was at Indiana before he went
to Washington. YEP.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now that sucks, man, that that that that that totally sucks.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That sucks. I hate that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I hate that for him.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Obviously, they weren't having the season you know, they they
would want to have. But I think obviously the growing
pains and being a rookie with it being you know,
your first time starting and getting the full reps, getting
the custom that to how the game flows and how
it goes and and you know, the ups and downs
of being the start and the quarterback for a franchise.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You need those reps. You need those reps.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
And I'm sure after this season ended, he would have
been much better. Yes, being familiar with everything, the system,
the play calling, the team, just just everything together.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Damn that that that that totally sucks to be for.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Him to have a season and an injury and be
behind eight ball and at that point anything a c
L there's no need for a second opinion.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
There's no need for a second opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Going there, get the work that needs to be done
so you can get back that much faster going in
to the following year, which you're having what six six seven,
maybe you got got a good, got a good six
to seven.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, I mean you, I mean, look just November, so
you have the surgery. So you got December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's nine months. You know, that's plenty time. Is it
the same leg? Is it the same knee.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I just hope he can have a career like Thomas Davis.
Thomas Davis tour his ACL three times, it came back
to be an All World linebacker for the Carolina Panthers.
So let's just hope if it's a situation like that,
because he ended up having a very promising NFL career
after tearing his ACL as many times as he did.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Damn man. That's yeah, it's something. Drake London got hurt
as well. I saw something with Drake. Yeah, I ain't
gonna be out. I think he's gonna be out at
least this week. Damn man.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Like these injuries due.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The Falcons dropped the quarterback at the top ten, paid
a different quarterback one hundred and eighty million to avoid
being in the quarterback purgatory.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Somehow, they year and a half later, they're in quarterback purgatory.
Raheem Morris.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
After drafting Michael Penning's junior at number eight, we're talking
about winning the NFC South and going to the playoffs.
We don't want to be picking that high anymore. We
don't want to be in that position that helped us
make this decision. Say things to say that they're not
going its way. If they're not going as well as
they hoped, it didn't make sense to me. Yeah that
(03:20):
you that you pay cousins that kind of money coming
off the injury that he had and still sign a quarterback.
A quarterback where I get it, o Jo. But he
still had an injury history. Yeah, I'll be thinking about it.
You think it's hard for me to see a scenario
where they would select any other player in any other
position that's coming off that's his career would have been
(03:42):
ended like four times before coming to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So let that seek in.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Let's just say he had five years and four of
those years this season ended with a season end the injury.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You're probably not going in the top ten. Damn.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Also, But I just hope, like I said, I hope
we can have a Thomas David type because Thomas ended
up going to Pro Bowls and helping the team get
to the super Bowl. But it's tough. I can just
imagine rehab all over again, O Joe. And the thing is,
when you rehab, you can't train. No, you're just hoping
(04:19):
to get back to a point where you have functionality.
Training is where you put your body into a situation
where a you can call on it and you knowing
what answer. He don't get to do that, You got
to You gotta rehab. That is what you do with rehab.
Rehab just gets you back to where you were. I'm
trying to good father to where I was, Oh, Joe,
where I was. It's I mean, I feel I feel
(04:42):
bad for the young man.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I hate injuries do it because I understand how much
it sets it sets players back, especially when you want
to improve year to year. Yeah, the season ends, you
want to improve in your game. You want to add
new thing to your game. You know, to be able
to help not just help you out, but help your coaches,
help your players. Because the better come back from a
skill set is it easier you make everyone else's job
around you. That's that's that's what I always thought about.
(05:06):
How can I make everyone else job around me? All Right?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
When we have a game, Uh, when we.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Have a game and we got an officer plan, Carson,
you don't have to worry about me, barbra Kowski, marvel Lewis,
you don't have to worry about me.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Now, just focus on another ten offensively you already I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Be there for you. No, matter what you need, no
matter what you need. So I always try to put
that mindset in the players. When you get in season,
that's just coaching, that's just exit and those you're not
getting any better in season, No, you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Put you to maintain your strength. Guess your shoulders hurt,
your hips hurt, your joints hurt. You get up under
that weight and why and do leg press and bench.
I mean you, you know, you do it as long
as you can. But some days, hey, my elbows just hurt.
My shoulders hurt. I can't get up under that heavy
ass wait and pressing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Hey, you get the bulky work, the meat potatoes. You
getting better as a player, you know from from the
skill point is the off season. That's why is so important.
That's why taking the time off that's necessary. When the
season ends, weeks you get into that work. I'm telling you, hey, receivers,
come on, come on down there. I'll let you. Boy.
(06:20):
You know, all these injuries. I can stop all these injuries.
Listen to me. Everybody like to laugh and he he
and ha ha, yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, oh Joe. The Falcons do not have a first
round pick. That first round pick belongs to the Rams.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
The Rams in Minnesota. The Rams. Okay, they haven't given
of anything, but Cousins Cousin was a free agent.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh shit, that's right, that's right, you're right, right, But I.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Think about it, Oh, Joe, name another position a guy
comes off of achilles injury after his level twelfth year
in the league and gets that come contract. Name a
position other than quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
No, there is none. Because they understand how valuable the
quarterback position is. That's why you take a chance. You
understand it's hard to get quarterbacks that have put up
the numbers that Kirk Cousins is put up, even though
he only had one playoff win.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's extremely difficult, extremely difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's why taking him a chance on a player like
Kirk Kirk Cousins, despite his history, you know, and not
making a playoff, despite the injury coming off in the
kileis okay. You know what, Well, he's not a dude
threat quarterback anyway. You know, once that Akis heals up,
he can be able to do what he normally does
as your functioning quarterback. He's a willing and dealing quarterback.
(07:38):
Will he's a he's surgical with the ball. He just is.
That's him. Were gonna take a chance, he's gonaive him
that kind of money. And then also the type of
type of player, type of person he is. He's a
high character guy, you know, you know, so you you're
willing to take that the way take that chance, you're
willing to make that investment is no hindsight.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But I told you at the time, I said, oh Joe,
contract just doesn't make sense to me to guarantee that
type of money for a guy. Uh that now, if
that's Tom Brady, that's Peyton Manning. Okay, I get it.
They're they're certified. Then you know, they they they they're approved.
But for a guy that hadn't had postseason success and
(08:23):
and and and he's had it coming off from a
Kiley's injury, and he's not mobile to begin with, he's
gonna be less mobile, It didn't make sense to me.
And then you go draft a quarterback. If that was
the case, why not why just say that money, oh Joe,
and just go get you a quarterback? If that's if
that was the route you wanted to take, you.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To think about it. Where they gonna get one from?
Where where you gonna get.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
In the draft, Like they went and got Piddicks from
Oh hey, listen, you understand how difficult it is to
find him a franchise altering quarterback.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You understand how difference that is because so yeah, because
it's one franchise autry.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, but he can he can help you compete week
the week. He can help you compete. Look at look
at look at what's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Some of the teams that have been struggled for years
to actually find a good, decent quarterback because you know,
once you get one, just let him be, let him
be good. Just you know, they took.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They took Atlanta in twenty twenty one draft. They took
Kyle Pitts number four. Gets who went number five that year,
Jamar Chase, Oh yeah this Jayalen Wall with six, Penay
Sewel with seventh, j C. Horn went eight, pats Or
Tad the second with nine, Davonte Smith w ten, Michael
(09:44):
Michael with with twelve, Rashaun Slater with thirteen. I mean,
if you take a tight end that high, you gotta
use them. But when they do use your cale, you're
gonna have to catch the ball now. And it's and
I know it's problem because he gets the ball so infrequently.
He's trying to hit his head on the goal post
every time he gets the ball, because he's like, I
(10:06):
don't know when I'm gonna got another chance.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And he gets and I've never seen somebody score without
the ball. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You gotta you gotta catch it. And I know, like
I said, I understand the frustration of this will be
because you know, he came on and told us, Hey,
the chemistry that he and and and Pennis had, they
were they were talking, Pennies were talking about it in
camp and he was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He came on night camp and talked about it. Damn.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I don't know. Give me the coaches that were hired. Oh,
they interviewed. They interviewed Jim Harbor, the faculty. The interviewed
Jim Harbaugh. They said, no, the interview of my Rabele,
they said no, the interview Mike McDonald, Mike McDonald, They
said no, I think the interview Ben Johnson. They said no.
(11:10):
I'm happy Raheem got the job. But mister Blake probably like, damn.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Hey, you gotta you gotta work with what you got.
You gotta work with.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What you got. Uh. I just.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Johnson, Well, he did a good job passing on some
of them. Uh, oh Joe, he's gonna have to get
it together, man, yeah, because I look they're getting restless.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They're getting restless in Atlanta. Hey, them players gott to
help you out, man, they do playing players, and players
got to help you out.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Listen the old the old adage. Players will get you fired. Yeah,
they will get you fired.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
They can get you hired and fired. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Man, I feel for Rahiem Man. Damn, I just thought
this was gonna be hopefully turned around. Oh yeah, and
coach Belichick. Man, man, y'all saw Coach Belichick. The guy
took his hat off.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Oh Joe, did you
see that? Yeah, man, Billy coach took his hat off.
The shape and you can't even look the man in
his eye. Oh joe. Hey, Bill through everybody like that though,
so he can't. He can't feel bad. You look at
you look at Bill at the end of the Patriots games,
and you keep keep it moving. He making a be live.
(12:54):
It's different college.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You set in an example. You ain't setting no example
in nonfing because he's on this now. Think about how
many times in the AFC championship game that a Tony Dungee,
a Bill Cower or a Rex Ryan has had to
come out there and talk to CBS. This is this
is really what rubbed me the wrong way. And I
think Coach Belichick is the greatest NFL coach ever, absolutely,
(13:20):
But this is what rubbed me the wrong way is
that the rules don't apply to him and the NFL
has let this behavior go on. But let a player
don't want to do the media and say, you know what,
I don't want to do the media day. I'm gonna
let oh yo go do it. They gonna do they
gonna darck me money. But he's supposed to do it.
And he said some special teams got out there, some
(13:42):
backup line when we ain't. Nobody ever heard of him
but his family. That's what rubbed me the wrong way.
That man took his hat off to shake your hand
and then you like like basically give me your blundy.
That's that's that's always rubbed me the wrong own way
about him.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It always have and and two things can be true.
He can be great and be a jackass at the
same time. Bothers me. You heard me, huh. He's always
been this way, and he not changing. That's the funny part. Well,
I'm in the NFL. This is the way I conduct myself.
Oh now I'm in college. This is the way I
(14:23):
conduct myself. And I'm not changing for anybody. I'm not changing.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think the thing is, Yeah, when you're winning, When
you don't win and you give people your job, your
butt to kiss and they're in position to hire you,
what did they do, Oh Joe, They're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Next yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Oh, George.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
There was plenty of speculation to while the Cowboys star
receiver Seedy Lamb and George Pickens were benched for the
opening drive against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
See, he confirmed the rumors that he and.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Pickings had been past curfew, having dinner and a few
drinks at Red Rocket Sino. Okay, you should have hit
your boy on. I came out with y'all. However, see,
he made sure to shoot down any claim that he
was seen throwing up around seven thirty am. See he
said such a claim was offensive to him because he
knows how to hold his liquor.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh Joe, Yeah, hey what they do? Hey? But shoot, Hey,
I'm gonna be honest with you. Weren't. I had, not
me personally, but it was a lot of folk late
during my time. Either I'm not one. I ain't no snitch.
You know, I ain't gonna do that, nothing like that.
You know. If I'm ever in the chair, I'm gonna
(15:40):
just plead the fifth, you know. But I didn't seen
it happen. Now now it's a little bit different because
we got cameras everywhere everywhere. Technology is a little different.
So when we played, didn't nobody know because it wasn't
nobody to tell unless somebody close to you snitched on you, yep,
or you told yourself by actually on a blake. And
(16:00):
most of the time it was Kevin House. Now, boy,
everybody can see everybody because he got the camera phone.
Because even when you.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Try to go out like hey, can I get a picture?
I said, no, I'm right, Yeah, somebody gonna know because
you're gonna post.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It and if you don't give and if you don't
give him a picture, they'll get mad and tweet guess
who I saw? Asshold ro how you go with me?
How you gave up my position?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's like it's like the guy that I had went
to the Airbnb and he left a negative rating. The
guy that owned the airbnb sent the photo of his
wife to his wife of him going to the airbnb
with another woman.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But that's real Yes, that wasn't No, that wasn't no
Netflix show or that's real life, real life. Oh oh
oh you got you got to see you.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Gotta get he gotta get these dumb dumbs what yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, hey, you have messed up my marriage on account.
It wasn't me, but it was you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
No hold on, you said you messed up my airbnb.
Give me this bull job rating. Now people ain't gonna
want to come to my spot. Hey, that's the true
meaning of an eye for an eye. Yeah, but oh Joe,
the thing is, if you're in the room, why would
you even why would you even do that?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Why would you leave a negative rating? Because for one,
you didn't think you didn't think he was. You were
stoop that low you didn't think he was.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I mean, I'm thinking, like most of these Airbnb's got
cameras right.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
At camera, can camera and aaron b at worst case,
a ring camera or a ring camera.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yes, okay, yeah, you so how you go get in? Yeah, okay,
you're right, so that but you said Hey, hey, Kean,
you see the difference. C DN pickets was our past curfew,
having it done on a few drinks.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
They missed the series. You missed two games. There's levels.
You're not at that level yet.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Hey, Keith, we gonna get you there, boy, come on,
let your boy in the off seat. And I'm telling you, boy,
we're gonna get you right you hear me. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh Joe, me man, I'm sleepy, I'm tired. Hey, my
thing is O yoe? When I when like we after
we have a meeting, you know, we have our individual meetings,
then we have a team meeting. Yeah, might gonna play
a video here, gonna play the top plays from last week.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We have a little music to it.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And then you know, he gonna give us our speech
what he expects blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
And do we go we go get you know, a meal. Yeah,
oh Joe, I'm trying to go to bed. I ain't
I ain't got it in meet. Yeah. See you a
little different you you old school with yo. You you
a little structure. You got a little disciplined when it
when when it came to your approach. Yeah, yeah, players
to day they're a little bit more relaxed. Relax. You know,
(18:57):
I want to be out. I want to enjoy myself,
to have a nice little ll you know, see what's
out there. You know we're in Vegas. I might I
might have tried to shake the cofor Spot Dark. Yeah yeah,
hold on today, hold on no, no before a game,
no game. I can't. I can't do that. I can't listen.
(19:17):
My cut off. My cut off was Wednesday. My cut off,
My cut off was Wednesday. If I don't catch you
between Sunday and Wednesday, oh no, I can't. I can't
do nothing with you. I can't. I don't want no.
I don't want no. I don't want no, no latic
acid bill up. I don't want those spaghetti legs. So
you got you got to get that work between that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I cut off with two hour for the game. If
I cut off two hoye for the game, oh hold
on damn.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, but but you ain't had no leg you out
there running with no legs? Nah?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Hey nah? Oh Joe, you see you remember the movie
Free Willie? Yeah, how when it came up bout that pool. Yeah,
that's me.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Free Willing.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I think that's a I think that's a misnomer. You
think so, I think so.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I don't know, boy, I don't know, because no, I don't.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I had a couple I know for sure, I had
a couple of real big game, real real, real big ones.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
After Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not listening. I'm
not from one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Sixty one sixty eighty one twenty with you know, one
fifty a couple of two.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, right, right right, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe
I'm not even superstitious. I'm not even superstitious, But I
just understand that feeling of horizontal activity and then finishing
and having a stand up and oh shoot, and just
being a little wobblely, you know, not not not not
not being in my right state of mind, but damn,
(21:04):
an equilibrium must be off. I don't play like that.
I don't play like yeah, I mean you see you
see position. I don't play like that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But bad, nah, but in all seriously like bad in
today's time, with like you say, the technology the way
it is. Yeah, you can't seize you. It's just hard.
It's hard. It's hard to get away seeing them owned it. Hey, Jay,
gonna tell you pigres to go out anytime. He won't
you after that performance, because that's one of the best
(21:44):
performances he's seen.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Matter of fact, with the way they playing in general
as a one A and one B. May y'all go
ahead and do what you need to do, do what
you need to do. You know, as long as you
show up the way you you've been showing up on
the field, may be good. Hey good, just ay, just hey.
Just don't let nobody see y'all. Don't let nobody see
(22:05):
y'all going out. Yeah, that's it. That's it. And when
you come in coming and when you come in coming
through the back.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Though George Pickings hopes his first season, it is not
his last. Picking said, I love to be back, especially
with CD and Dak all my all the guys.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Really.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Pickens is the fourth and final ye ever's rookie contract
that he signed with the Steelers at the second round
in twenty twenty two. He's scheduled becoming an unrestricted free
agent in March. Of March, Pickens has nine hundred and
eight receiving yards through ten games, the most threw the
first ten games of a player's tenure in Dallas franchise history.
He's uh, he's second in receiving yards. O Jo, you know,
(22:45):
I know you want Pick to chase the bag. Would
you be content if Picks stayed in Dallas?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Man? Listen, hold on. I want to talk about these
stats real quick now. I want people to understand and
and and understand how spell So George Pickens is right,
George Pickens is second in receiving yards nine hundred and eighth.
He only got fifty eight catches. Yeah, he only got
fifty eight catches.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So that's that's letting you know. He's doing more with less,
you know. So let's start there now. George Pickens coming
back to Dallas. I like the idea. I like the idea, right,
you know, Pickens ceedee lamb That Dak Prescott. We understand
(23:34):
how special, especially with him having a year remove going
to a second year on how special they can be offensively.
But I understand Dak has to get done again. I
understand that. I understand they'll they'll do Dak again. They're
not gonna let that know.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think DAK number is damn there like seventy seventy
dollars cap here, So they'll REDODK again but probably give
him another four year, five year deal making like three
hundred million dollars, and they'll give him, you know, at
the time of signing, they'll give him a hundred million
dollars and he'll get he'll get I mean, he got
guaranteed right now two hundred and twenty nine million, So
(24:10):
he'll get another deal, probably a two hundred and fifty
million guarantee.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But it is is Dak willing to take less to
make sure George Piggins gets what he deserves, to make
sure he get close to his value, because he's not
gonna get anywhere near close to his value if he
stays in Dallas. I would love from the Stan Dallas.
He would be great there offensively and what he can
do based on what he's putting on display right now.
I love it. I love the idea. I just understand
(24:37):
when it comes to getting your first contract, your first
big contract, most of the time unless you that guy,
like that guy guy they've already paid ce d Lamb. Yeah,
you know, so based on where he is right now,
he would suppose to be. If he was elsewhere, he
would overlap ceede Lamb's contract. Correct, he would overlap it.
(24:57):
But he won't be able to do and get a
true value because he's staying in Dallas. So does he
want to take a discount and say, you know what,
I'm gonna stay here, I'm gonna take less to stay
here in Dallas and be productive here, or do I
want to go somewhere else? Now, whatever he chooses to do, that,
that's on him. But I'm gonna have a conversation with
David Mulling Getta and we're gonna sit down and we're
(25:20):
gonna talk, and we're gonna see what type of plan
we're gonna put together for a pick and see what's
best for him for r for see of your future. Now,
Dallas Cowboy fans, I love y'all. I love with pick
bringing to the table, but don't be selfish. Don't be selfish.
You should want what's best for Pick two. Yes, being
with the Dallas Cowboys, that's what you want because you're
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a Dallas Cowboy fan. But what's best for George Pickens
his family and his long term Let's think about him
long term, you know, and being able to set up
not just his kids, but his grandkids kids, you know. Now,
if he can get that down in Dallas, I'm all
for it.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I think the thing is Joe they you know, they.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Do they redo that.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That'll take that'll take thirty million off the cap right there,
to make his cap, to bring his cap number down. Yeah,
they'll probably do something restructure, Uh, give CDs money and
assigning bonus. Yeah, gotta take more money off the cap.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
So I think I could, I could. I see him
getting a deal somewhere five years, one hundred and eighty million. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay,
we're cooking. Okay, we're cooking. I can see we're cooking.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Now. The problem is, now, see we thinking sensible, Yeah,
me and you thinking sensible. The chat, they thinking sensible,
especially any Cowboys fans that's in the chat. You know.
I love y'all too. I love y'all. Y'all. Don't think
I'm hating. I love y'all. But and Jerry gonna think sensible, Yeah,
I think he is. He gonna think sensible. Now, we
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know how Jerry Jones is when it comes to when
it's time to pay. You understand that. Now, if George
Pint gonna have the patience to deal with that bullshit
Jerry like to do making you wait till the last
goddamn minute. I don't know. We understand the issues that
Jerry Jones had with David mulli Getter in the past. Yeah,
is he gonna have the patience the one to deal
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with the bull drive that Jerry gonna put him through.
So there's other dynamics that come into play. You know. Well,
what muller Getta might want to tell Pick man, Listen,
we ain't got time for this ship. Oh my bad,
I'm sorry. We ain't got time for this. I think
because Pick got an edge to it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I think Pick has a lot of on the
field and how he goes about his business on the
field has a lot of Michael Irbin in it. Yeah,
we know what Jerry thought of Michael. Yes, what he
thinks of Michael. So I think he would probably lean
towards probably getting something done. That's that that's going to everybody,
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because he realized out he traded for Mingo.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Mingo ain't seen the field yet.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, this year, I think he's been a healthy scratch
the last couple of times. Remember they traded a fourth
round pick from to Carolina to get Mingo. He's finally
got a guy. He's finally got a guy. Yeah, that's
carparable to CD. It's hard to get a guy carparable
to your number one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah he can. He can fight him tooth and nail.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Big, great, great hands, make tough catches, tremendous run after
the catch, very good, big, big, big body receiver. Jerry
realized those guys don't grow on trees, absolutely not. And
we got him, and we got him.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
In our home.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The best thing to do when you got him in
your home on your dusk, what don't let him leave.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Don't let him leave. Don't let him leave.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He's on pace for nine to our receptions fifteen hundred
and forty four yards in twelve touchdown. Dak is the
only team in the NFL this season to have featured
top five player in passing, rushing, and receiving yards. Dak
is field up in passing yards by Tay Williams, is
fifth in rushing yards.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Pick is second in receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Man, So think about all the offense they got and
look where they are because why the defense.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, you just gotta pick it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Up and we'll see, we'll see if they can replicate
what they did they got the Eagles. We'll see if
they can replicate what they did. They went out made it.
They let Michael Parkson. They traded Michael Parkson to get
Kenny Kenny Clark in Quinny Williams.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That's what Ada said. Look, we gotta stop the run Clark.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's more of a run stuff for Quinny Williams can
play the run, but he's more of a pass rushing DT.
You got Clowney, you got Filed, you got Williams. You
got some guys that you got a Digga Zua that
you paid a lot of money to. He's still there.
So we're gonna see. We're gonna see the Eagles. We're
gonna we gonna see what the eagles. We're gonna see
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what the eagles because they're gonna need You're gonna need
to stab to run you on the road. Yeah, see
a SA quad can get loose. Looks like Lane Johnson's
gonna be out. They're gonna have that back up in there.
We'll see. He says, Hey, I want to make a
name for myself. Lane Johnson is thatding stone. He is
what he is, one of the great UH lineman in history.
Now it's my time to get an opportunity to show
you what I'm capable of.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So it's gonna be very, very interesting. But anybody everything.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I don't know what Jerry thought he was gonna be
when he traded for him, but he had to be.
He has to have been everything that Jerry had hoped
for and more.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Absolutely. Uh uh we was there.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Ever a great a teammate that you thought to keep
on the team?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Man? TJ Man, Who's Who's that? You know? I hate
the dirty side of the business, but you know it
is a business. I wanted who's to stay? Yeah, you know,
I thought I thought that that that that that chemistry
we had and being from Oregon State and going from
Orgon State being drafted to the Bengals. I mean I
wanted that continuity to the state throughout but the entirety
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of my career, so obviously things didn't go that way.
I mean, that's about the only person. That's about the
only person. They ain't really asked me. They really they
really asked me. Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mean, as I got older, I think once I
went there and and and and and and came back,
I think might value my opinion on what I thought
of certain guys.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But for me, a you make your own decisions.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, I'm going home, and if I guess what and
when I come back in the spring for OTA's and
they here.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I guess they. I guess they moved on. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Despite being eight and too and fresh off his Super
Bowl win, there continues to be a lot of negativity
surrounded the Eagles. A. J. Brown threw more gas on
the fire to day when asked about speculation that he
isn't the same player he once was.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, Joe, let's take a listen to with AJ had
with that bull. I mean, there's speculation out there that
you are not the same player. What would you say
to those people? I guess that at the same player.
All right, Hey, you see how the bull drives start?
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You see how the bull they come up with that? Oh,
your production is not the same as it was before.
So now you're not the same player no more. Oh
now you lost a step. This is the game they played.
This is the game they play, this is this is
this is how they do this, how they do Hey,
you know, ain't nothing wrong with that man. Man, you
can see you watch film, you watch the games on
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It ain't nothing wrong with that man. Why even see
the reporter be playing that's how she You know what
I would have swung on that reporter games.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
But you see oo ojo, you see how you frame it.
What do you say to those that say that you're
not the same player?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
What do you say about those that say you're not
the same hoping that he gets something? They got what
he wanted? Yeah, I guess ain't the same player. They
got what they wanted. Yeah, because the content, it don't
even matter the context. Yeah, y'all said, I'm not the
same player. Well, Kuan ain't got a fivesand yards rush.
Remember at this point in time last year he had
a five to yard exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
So, so so what why y'all didn't asking?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Why are y'all not asking questions about him?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So y'all keep.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Coming, y'all keep coming to me asking me questions. But
if the run does the run game look the same?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Nope, show don't. So that means sa Quan lost it. No,
ain't nothing wrong with him, Ain't nothing wrong him. It
ain't nothing wrong with either. The reporters know that. But
then you know that the reporter gon go fishing every time.
Now it's on the player on whether they catch that
bit or not. You're right, Joe. That's it, you know,
A J. Brown. He wanted them. He he gonna give
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you what you wanted speaking his mind. Now, he gonna
every time. There was one other player just like that too,
that played that you know over there at that War
eighty one. Yeah, you asked him a question. He gonna
get you what you want every time, So be careful.
He ain't sugar coat nothing bad. Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I just think the thing is now is that we
eighting too. Yeah, so what can we be critical of?
Ain't really anything you can be critical of because the
team's ain't too the number one end of it, the
number one team in the division. So let's go to
AJ Brown and hopefully he says something negative about somebody else.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
That's all you gotta hold. That's all they're hoping for
now with ya.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's it you said, Like you said, it's a fishing expedition.
Let me see how big. Let me see how big
of a fish I can catch. As matter of fact,
this is the thing too, right. The bait is the
way you wor the question. Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
The bait that the reporters use is the way they
word the question. I'm a word in this way and
say they say you know, we don't even know who
they is? Who is they? Is they watching film? Is
they not seeing what's going on? Yeah? We eight and two.
I've been complaining about they the whole time. They should
know what the problem is. And how about this here?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
If whoever say that I'm not the same player, will
ask the opposing team why they could keep putting that
number one corner on me?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Then if I ain't what they.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Say, if I if I ain't what you think or
what they say, I am. All I know is I
get roll coverage and I get their best that get
their best corner. They don't put their third corner on me.
They don't put the second and third corner on me?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
They say, I ain't got it no more? You're right,
I don't throw me the ball and find out. Yeah,
that's the only way. I mean, that's that's all I
can tell you. That's all I got for you. I
ain't got nothing else to say. I really don't. Look,
y'all know how I feel about this situation. Yes, I'd
like to be a more active participant in the offense.
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I think if if all the receivers I think, you
look and I don't want to speak for anybody else.
But I think we all think that we could be
more involved and the offense would would flow smoother. If myself,
Davante Godter Johnson, if we became more involved. That's not
where we are right now. Hopefully that changes any more questions.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Good, that's it. That's all I got for Yojo. Yeah, yeah,
hey that that that's that. That's that good politically correct answer.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hey hey, hey, I thought about being politics. Hey I
still might might be perfect for politics right now.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Politician. Okay, Okay, I like I said.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
He with that being said, O Joe, No, I was
just like, hey, now we're not playing what you want
me to say.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Man, you're watching the games. Yeah, we're not. We're not.
We're not playing well, and we're not good offensively.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
No, who can you pick out and say, Okay, they're
doing an outstanding job offensively.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Bro We ain't scoring a touchdown in a month.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
A month, but the professional NFL team has not scored
a touchdown. So there's enough blame to go around on
everybody offensively, from coaches to players, myself, the quarterback, the
offensive line, the running backs. There's no way to just
pinpoint to blame because one time we get a holding call.
Next time we jump off side. The next time we
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make a mistake, we do a minimal mistake. So there's
enough blame if we just and it's just not okay,
we get something going positive holding, we get something going,
then we have somebody with a minimal mistake.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
So there's enough blame to go around. But at the
end of the.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Day, it's a point everybody on this offense that's in
that room and the coaches to figure it out. So
let me ask you a question. You think Cincinnati feeling
sorry for us? You think Tennessee feeling sorry for us?
You tell me the team that's on our schedule that
feel sorry for us, that we haven't scored a touchdown
in five weeks. No, nobody, So they not feeling sorry
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for it? Why the hell we feeling sorry for ourselves?
Empathy is something someone else have for you. You can't
have it for your damn self. Oh, pold me, Oh
we'll stay over there. They were there, But ayja brot,
don't let them try to get you to throw to
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try to throw a dirt on somebody else. Don't even
do it. Hey, y'all heard what I said. Idam said,
I don't really need to reiterate it. I've just been
saying this for the last year. I would like to
become more involved in the offense, not out of selfish reasons.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Do you see our passing game.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's struggling and right now we're very dependent on the defense.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
But at what point in.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Time do we get the captain carric that do we
have to do we get to earn our checks because
the defense is earning their checks every week.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Every week. Right now, we're getting pre checks. M yep.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So aj Lady said he does not watch the otherwise
receivers doing rude in the NFL reporter to ask him
say why, his response it gets me upset. Absolutely now
this now he's talking my language.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Ba Hey, listen, Unless unless you're being productive, unless you're
a part of the offense, weeke in and week out
and knowing that you're you're going to have those catches
and those opportunities. I'm not watching the others that are
getting them because I'm gonna get me mad. You think
I'm gonna be watching film on Jamar and JSN and
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George Pickens and Davonte Adams and they out there going
crazy weekend. If we get ten twelve targets a game,
five man, please, man, absolutely not. I don't want to
see that. Hell Na.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I was very poty, Like I said, It was like
it is now on Joe where they had we had
this influx of tight ends. But yeah, Ben Coach had
one sixty, I had had forty. Yeah nah, man, that
man aint no on hundred and twenty yards better than me.
U No, hell nah, I see Brent Jones or them
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get Oh no, hell no. So I I one thousand percent,
one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I am.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I'm not watching, and don't let me and don't let
me you know, I'm playing one of those guys. Yeah, man, hey,
romo at man, don't y'all let that man come in
here and show you out in front of me. Don't
y'all let that man come in this house and show
out in front of me. Now, I'm just saying, don't
let that man come in this house and show out
in front of me.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Do what y'all aint, do what y'all do to me
in practice? Right? I like that. It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, man, come on, now, how how that is gonna look?
O yo, guns will come up in my house. Go
for a buck fifty. Now I'm on the sideline. Hell no,
hey like Tom see, I want to play with Tom
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because remember that that game that Randy went off, Randy
had like two or three touchdowns. Excuse me, TiO, we
had a win off with that two or three touchdown.
He said, come on, Moss, he gave Moss for in
the first half. You good, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good.
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I'm real good. Kevin Petula and Sirianni are quite obsessed
with a hitch route. Ranking the most hitch routes run
per game Bill True Media. Dallas Goddard nine point four four,
Devonte Smith nine point one, A J. Brown seven point
five six. No other team has more players in the
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top sixteen.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
What I told you, what I told you the other
day about about the rock concepts, I can tell you
what I can tell you what A J. Brown. I
can tell you what Devonte Smith is running based on
their alignment and based on formation and definitely based on
down and distance every single time, every time. I don't
play for the Eagles. I love football. I'm not an
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Eagle fan, but I watched the game. The fact that
I can still tell you what they doing. I don't
watch them every single week. I mean, I mean, if
if I know what's coming, you don't think the people
that actually watch film and get paid. Yeah, man, come on, man,
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I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I just don't know how you expect to be effective
when you have this many guys at the top running hitches.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Really push the ball down the field. You got to
because if you don't, they gonna sit on top of everything,
which is which is why most of the shorten it't
means them intermediate routes keep getting knocked down. Why because
they are no thread for you going on the top
of it.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Hell nah, why am I backing up knowing you ain't
going no farther than ten yards?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I ain't even getting out of my back pedal.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
That's why so many catch so many deep balls over
the top because he doesn't hitch them.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Hey, he just slanting them, hissing the death hissed.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
And slam them to death. And they be looking like, oh, heck, no,
he over the top of you.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Now, Hey, is either the hitch, the slant or the
curl that's it? Oh, or maybe the cross of the
overus the over rock.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
They a lot of over a lot of times where
they throw him the go ball, he's on the left
hand side.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yep, that's it. That's the extended the route treat for
them right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's like, and I know it's frustrated. It's frustrated because
you see all these guys. You see Jackson's, you see
js In, you see a Mecca, you see a Pookah,
you see Chase, you see all these.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Guys getting all the honey. I ain't getting another vinegar day.
We give me a number Vinago. Yo. Yeah, I'm salty.
And not only am I only Not only am I
only getting vinegar? They paying me thirty three million dollars. Yeah,
and the first thing they're gonna do is, well, man,
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I don't know your production slip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're
not the same. It seemed like you got lost a step.
We're paying you thirty three, but the production you're giving
us is like we're paying you twelve or ten. So
we're gonna ask you to take a picer of what
m hm. I already know. I listen, I already know
the game they' finna play. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be
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able do that. Guys. I wish I could. I wish
I could help you out with your captain. Yeah, h
mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Joe Burrow made few steps in his recovery journey on
Wednesday by being named a full participant in Bengals team practice.
Excuse me, this is the first time that he's gotten
the designation since he suffered the turf toe injury in
Week two. Joe would need to be activated by December
first from the injury reserve to have any chance to
play again this season. Oh yo, your Bengals are three
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and seven, yes, sir, three and seven, yeah, in seven
games to go.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah. Yeah. Is there a.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Scenario which you see if the Bengals were to lose Sunday?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Is there a scenario where you see Joe being activated,
because if he's not activated by Junior streaking me December first, Yes,
that means he can't. I mean basically, he can't come
off and he'd be on there for the rest of
the season. Do you see a scenario where you guys
lose this game and him come off injury reserve?
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, honestly, I think regardless, there is really no scenario
in this matter or in this case, whether we win
or whether we lose Joe Burrow, being the competitor that
he is, he would probably over ride any suggestions that
he gets from doctors, Uh, anyone that sits in positions
of power, in in that uh, in that in that
front office. And he's coming back to play whether we
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lose it or not. I just knowing Joe Burrow, the
type of player he is, the type of competitor is
whether we have a chance to to get to the
playoffs or he can have want to finish the season
off strong and and and and make some of a
statement to show that he can still stay upright. He
can he can still be healthy, you know, regardless of circumstances,
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whether we're going to the playoffs or not.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
So he just you're just looking forward to them getting
back out there on the field. You don't, You ain't
really you don't really think y'all gonna make no playoffs.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Hey, Joe, Joe, Honestly, right now, I haven't really really
thought of the scenarios or the possibility of us making
the playoffs at three or seven. I think it's very
very difficult, Joe. Honestly, I think it's very difficult. But
for me, uh, I would love for Joe to come back,
not even playoff scenario, but just the finish the season
off strong, finished the season off strong, getting you know,
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get in there, do what you can strong. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah. From hold on, let me finish. I'm
not I'm not talking about I'm not talking about from
a team standpoint at this point when we when you're
three and seven. I'm just saying individually, all players need
to finish the season off strong from an individual standpoint
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so they feel a little better about themselves going into
next year. Regardless of whether we we did well or
we whether we did well or we didn't, as a team.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
We ain't no regardless, ain't no area right, regardless you regardless, regardless.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I said, I said, or regardless. Yeah, y'all were terrible
this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were terrible, but finished
out on no good note. Okay, I said. That's why
I said individually, That's why the first thing I said,
even if even if we lose what we won't, which
you probably won't.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
You gone to lose, take the ILF out. Take the
ILF out. First of all, y'all would losing with Chase.
Y'all losing with Chase.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, he gown. Okay, now let's try again. Like I said,
someone someone who has a little optimism, Joe, I'm talking, Joe,
I'm gonna talk to you. I'm a little optimistic. Ain't
no telling what's gonna happen. I know Chase is not
playing this game. We got eleven weeks. You know what's
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gonna happen. You know what I he Joe, I don't.
I don't like. I don't like the way uncles treat
my bank. Hey O, Joe, I think y'all just need
to let you know what. I just want to take
my last bike. Take the last bike, Take take your
time talking.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
I want to go ahead and finished against some food
on my stuff because I've been hungery. I had had
a couple of bents I had to go to that
I would get my last my lab right.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Now, take a time. Me and Joe got it, Me
and Joe anyway, Joe, Like I was saying, listen from
from an individual standpoint, Joe knowing how Burrow is, knowing
the competitor that he is, he's a liar, Hey, Joe,
he coming back to play, Joe regard regards to how we're.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
Doing that, listy, But sometimes oh, Joe, you know we
can get in our own way.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Now the man been bogged down with and you know
that tod lingo bro. I know that, Joe. I know
I Joe. I know one thing. If Joe, if Burrow
ain't feeling one hundred percent, he not taking his ass
out there on that field.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
Well then he ain't gonna play it. It ain't no
way here that toad gonna be one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Man. You listen, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
Let the man, Let the man heal up, and then
y'all get another crack at the next year.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
If it don't happen next year, or Joe, you gotta
blow that thing up. Okay, Okay, I mean I like that, Joe,
but I me me honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing,
knowing how he is, he's sitting on that sideline, Joe,
if if he can go and then the think about it,
eighty eighty five, eighty seven, even a ninety percent Joe
Burrow is better than half the goddamn league. It's better
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than half the league out there, even hobble. So I
would like to see I would like to see him though, honestly,
just to finish it all strongest just so you feel
good about yourself in your head and when in the
back of your head it's like, well, god, damn, I
haven't been hurt three out of six seasons, you know,
and it ain't ain't been able to contribute to help
my team out. Man, shit knowing him. Man, I'm finishing this.
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I'm finishing this. Shit off.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Hey look, I'm sure he probably does want to get
back up. I mean he's making a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, oh yeah, O yeah, but Ojo.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
Sometimes man, you know you gotta get in guys, wait
man and just tell them, Hey, look, we understand.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, we know you want to play. Yeah, but you.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
Probably need to sit the rest of this season. Now
we can get you right going in the next season. Hey,
many like that just playing football just to be finishing
the season and they mayn't get hurt again.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Now come on now. Yeah, I mean, you're right. I'm
trying to help you' all. I'm trying to joe you Joe,
you're right, But I'm telling you how the individual is.
He's an animal, but he an animal, right, animal. I
just I just don't see any scenario where he can
gonna sit down, especially he was a full participant in
practice today. He was a full participant in practice.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
See feel like tomorrow. Unless Joe Burrow will come back
as the combination of Miles Garrett and Laurence Taylor, y'all
ain't going nowhere. I don't give come back.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
And we understand that part.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Joe, Miles Garrett and Lawrence Taylor, little Big the Deon Sanders,
Garray lewis in there.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
So one of them he's gonna be right. I mean,
neither one neither one day. You have to understand that,
that's not the part we talk about. You got to
understand the type of individual Joe is. You got to.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
You don't become the number one overall peak without being
a competitor. And that's also don't become somebody without being realistic.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, man, I understand that, Joe. I mean have you seen. Yeah,
that man ain't thinking about none of that. That man
ain't thinking about none of that. That man is thinking
about getting on that field, getting back healthy and trying
to contribute and finish the season off on a high
note for him in the village. So he feels better
about himself going into the off season. I'm telling you
how he thinking. I know it because if he wasn't.
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It wouldn't be no, no goddamn reason to be a
god damn price of today. Hey, Joe, he was. We
got something showing for you. What's that? What they bringing
the man? Look at look at they bringing it back? Joe?
Is that bubble rap? Y'all? Why y'all disrespect him a quarterback? Now,
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don't know? Hold on, hold on, well you over there laughing,
he bet he better than bo next down there in
Denver right now. And he ain't even and and Joe
ain't even not debating his skills set.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
We're not debating how good he actually is because excuse me,
we know he's great.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
We're not debating that. I know. But hey, but hold on,
the joke is just flying and he he and the
ha ha and like like he ain't that boy?
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Don't you don't think that fit? You just said? The
man been hurt three of his six years.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
I'm just speaking facts. On his first year he got hurt.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
The next year he went through, Then he went to
the then he went to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Then he got his wrist hurt. Now he done missed.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
He missed the entire rest of that season, which was
probably about eight nine games, now this is week twelve,
so he's gonna miss that bare minimum, a bare minimum
another ten games.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Right? What the hell happened to my camera?
Speaker 2 (53:42):
You had like you had like we put this around
Brett Farr Peyton, Come on that. You're talking about a
guy that's been He missed ten games his rookie season,
if not more. He's gonna miss ten games this season
with his wrist injury. He missed the probably another ten games.
So he's missed probably thirty games since he's been in
the league.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Right, I didn't. I didn't need you to detail all.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
That I need with Ojo. You know this. They gotta
be available.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, yeah, you listen, you're right, you are available? What good?
What good is that? Man?
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I had the best feet, man, I had the best
feet in the NFL. Yeah, but you played every other year?
Yeah yeah, you ready, you're right? But what you played
every Sunday?
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I did? I did? I did? Hey Joe, Hey, Joe,
you should have seen my feet Joey's thing right here, Joe,
Oh yeah, I seen you cut the rug too, the
thing right here, Joe? Yeah, hey them boy got a
mind of the on boy, yet we already know.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
What's gonna happen though, Joe Man, Joe had one hundred
and fifty yards two touchdown, but they lost.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, I think that's a line. That's a lie. Now,
don't don't do that. You long as you're saying, long
as Oho gat he is? He was cool. No, No,
I ain't, Joe. I'm not saying that I did everything.
He wasn't happy about it. He just knew he would. Hey,
you hot, he knew I gonna get mine.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Unfortunately, I'm not in a situation where as a team
we're good enough to win more than we lose.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Joe, So I gotta do I gotta do my part.
And Joe, my grandma always told me baby, in life,
you can only do one thing. You can control what
you can control and do your part. So Joe, I
did my part. Now collectively as a team, I can't
control the other ten people. I can't control the eleven
people that's on defense. But I know what I can't control.
(55:30):
I control me. I can control them feet that had
a mind of their own. Hey, Joe, I'm the only receiver.
I'm the only receiver in the history of the game.
They didn't pay me to play receiver, Joe. They paid
me for my feet alone. I'm just saying, I'm just
being honest to you. It's in my contract. If you look,
(55:51):
I show you a copy of contract. It states we
are paying him individually on what he's able to do
with his feet. That's what they pay me. So you said.
So you're saying when the dB lined up in front
of you, he had no chance. Let prefer who you man,
the devil is a lot Joe, I ain't play that
up there. You get a don't ever get too close
(56:11):
to me when we would have a conversation because I'm
gonna talk to you all the way through the route. Okay,
huh yeah, Man, I ain't Joe. I ain't playing no game.
Joe Hey, wordless age Joe.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
He was, he was in this he was in this band.
O Joe is saying, really really good, But they ain't
have no number one hits because they would let him
sing lead. So if they let him sing lead, or
they had more people like oh Joe in the band,
the would have been really really could So in other words,
he really need to play an individual sport where he
just allowed himself because when you play football, you really
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gotta rely on the ten guys on offense, the eleven
guys on defense, and the eleven on guy that they
try out there every time on special team. Oh, Joe
did his thing, but like he said, he can only do.
He couldn't tackle nobody. He couldn't get no picks, couldn't
sack the water back.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Hey Joe, we had, we had some.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Then they didn't get They got really good once they
got they got caught. Well, kittdam wasn't bad Kidner threw
for four thousand kid It wasn't no bad quarterback, but
they was bad enough that they got They gotta ended
up getting Carson Palmer with the number on the overall pick,
and then once Canson got in there, they kind of
took off from there.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, hey Joe, we were good, man. We listen, we
had we had some. We had some up some down.
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Let that look. I don't get I don't pat you
on the back now. Yeah I was pat you on
the back. I wasn't trying to be dust at your clothes.
You know what I'm saying, Joe. He wanted me to
be dust out of clothes. Now, Damn, I appreciate it.
Could leave it at that, man, O, Joe was really
good Oh Joe did all what nice?
Speaker 1 (57:42):
Now? You know I was a little something now, a
little something to watch that. Yeah, hey Joe saying, you know, Joe,
I could fill up a stadium by myself. Joe, I
was like, you you gonna put on his shoulder now,
Oh yeah, you're gonna get that. You're gonna get that.
When I was playing home a way, I'm gona for
your stadium up.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
See, that's why I need to see. I need to
be I need to be a couple of years, a
couple of years younger, because he'd been talking to him
on the sideline, talked it right out of the game.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
How you gonna take my script and try to use
it on me? Oh Joe, you do realize that I
was talking for you was born? What do you know
where I'm from? Do you know where I'm from? Do
you understand we start in pee wee pee wee optimists.
That talking started at four years old. You wasn't doing
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that when you was fo you, when you was in Foe.
You was out there in the country, you know, picking watermelon.
You weren't talking like this. I came out to womb talking. Yeo,
this is what I do. Hey, Joe, I'm telling you, Joe,
right environment boy, I say you talking to right out
of his game, Joe. I'm saying, y'all ain't never playing
against each other.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, Hey Joe, he was younger than me.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Hey, don't matter, Joe. I spanked him when we played them.
Every time Joe, I showed up to the party Brock
with yeah that I was on. Joe, you was on,
You was on the team.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
What you're talking about, Joe, we already say you had
thirty something yards o Joe, that's all.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
That's what you mad. That's all. Yeah, I mean, because
I'm definitely saying I'm really not a thirty yard receiving
from the.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Fact that I was at thirty when you when and
when you scored against the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
Joe. I mean, oh, Joe, I was already at the game,
the game was over. WHOA do you know you're not
finna do that? Oh? No, the devil is a lot
because you've been out the game now for twenty some years,
and every time the bron gonna play.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Talking about I was when the game that you played
when I was with the Broncos, and the game you
scored on you scored with like twenty seconds the game
was over.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
I was on the headline, Draga kool a Bennett. Well,
hold on, wait a minute, Joe, he a unk Joe.
I think Unk might goddamnesia, because if I if I
recall in two thousand and five against the Denver Broncos
Monday Night football by when crazy, If I'm not mistaken,
I retired, I was in the boot. I was in
I was sitting at a desk. What does that have
(01:00:05):
to do. You just said I only scored against the
Broncos sat two decades. You just said I only scored
in the Broncos in the last thirty seconds. That's not
what I recall.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
No, no, no, I said when I was playing all okay,
okay with Shannon. I don't know what what you did
after I left, but I'm saying I you know, you
scored with like thirty five forty seconds left in the
ball game. I done got my shoes off, I got
on flip flops.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Okay, okay, it sounds I got on sound.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I got on showering shoes on the sideline. I done
cut my tape off and everything, and you stealing there
playing when you scored at the end, you were still
look it up, Hey, j looking up.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I think it was either two thousand and two, two
thousand and three. Joe. Look, I ain't gonna lie to
tell you. I remember like it was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
He's calling, we don't beat the were beating the brakes
off them.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Try to celebrate. I never a Joe one thing I
never do. I was always self aware. I was always
self Pull it up. You heard me, Joe, you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Were self aware with that one, because I don't know
why why I'm telling you know why you scored a
touchdown and want to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Hold, I'm telling you how it was. I never do
that a Joe unless we unless we're scoring first or
I'm scoring to tie. I never celebrate if I was
scoring we were losing. Never never, that's to me, that's
a lack of self awareness. And to me and myself,
I look crazy because why the hell am I celebrating?
Is none to celebrate for, and we're not winning the
game or actually tying the game. So that's something I
(01:01:35):
always kept win the game.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
With me, but said, well, whether oh three oh two,
I'm trying to think it might have been oh two
o two.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I gave y'all that work. That's all I know oh
three oh oh, get it right as pull up three
seats asked.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
When did all up? When did he score that touchdown?
When did he score that touchdown?
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah? Yeah, hey, hey Joe, you see you see ass
put out to receive Joe, I got to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Get boy that business. But see what hello? This care
was thirty to ten. He oh, this call was thirty
to three. Kift the calories. He did all that hard work.
He got some cardio in the first four and a
half qualt three and a half poin.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
You just heard say I will giving y'all that work.
You just heard ask't give y'all that work. You called
a twenty three yard touchdown. The score was thirty to three.
Wenna took our starts out. We ain't getting nobody who
want no the starters run out the game. They weren't
out the game because that which you're not gonna You're
not gonna putt no backups on me. Not no, no,
you're not no, you're not. I think the person if
I'm not mistaken, that was coming to me. He wore
(01:02:56):
twenty four.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
He wore twenty four to me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
The whole game. Who dealth O'Neill? No, no, no, Chap
wasn't there when I was there? Old Hoe? Okay him
after I was gone? Oh who wasn't? Who wasn't It
was Deltha O'Neill. Well he got that work too. Who
ended up playing with you in Cincinnati? And he got
that work. Anybody with a two and they number got
(01:03:19):
that work for years straight, except except Reeves. I'mnna give
this credit, I think if I'm not mistaken. Who who
you giving credit to? Oh? Res, that's it, that's it.
And then listen, hey, Joe, No no, no, no, no, no,
we didn't have Reavers. No no, no, I'm just saying
(01:03:40):
I was telling Joe. Anybody with a two as their
first number got that work for eleven twelve years straight. Joe,
I seen you Reevers? Oh man, it was like a
bad relationship that never turned out right, youar me? And
how you get the Reavers out and couldn't get off there? Huh?
Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Let me find out you was GILLAGAINI jo Hey, Joe,
I got Joe coming to.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Joe. I got stuff. Joe. I ain't have a passport.
He in defense like that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Listen, hey, Joe, he was nice, Joe, he he was nice,
he were nice. He was nice. I'm not gonna see
him like I talked. I talked, I talked Cray, I
talked cash Ship. But one thing i'mnna do, boy, when
it comes to defense, I'm gonna get that with it.
Give him his credit. And every time I see him,
I give nis fly. That year he had a year. Man,
Oh Joe, everybody got it. Joe that two thousand and
(01:04:32):
nine seasons Joe, that was. That was an historic run
that will never be repeated, never be Every week he
traveled with number one. I don't care a coach, I
got it, don't even worry about this. And nobody, nobody
will getting a hunted a hunted, shut down, shut down everybody. Johnson,
(01:04:53):
Steve Smith, Andre john nobody got over with fifty boy.
There's one person. There's one person who can sit was
able to give reason that give reeves that business and
give him problems. And that was Stevie Johnson. Stevie Johnson, Yeah,
played played in Buffalo. He Joe. Stevie was about six
fold and moved like he was five ft tall.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I mean as far his ladder movement and is quick.
You had to be quick to give him problems. You
couldn't be a big receiver and be physical with him
because his hands. Then you had to be quick. You
had to be twitchy. Yeah, if you weren't twitchy, you
you got You had hell on your hands.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
If you weren't twitchy,
Oh, Joe got the bad news.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
According to Adam Schefter, Michael Penick suffered a partially torn
ACL in Sunday's game and is lost against the Panthers.
Pennix is seeking a second of opinion, but this is
not encouraging. This is expected to be the fifth season
inding injury for Pinnis in his eight college and NFL seasons.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Fifth third ACL.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He towards ACL in twenty twenty, I mean, excuse me,
in twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, and now he has a
partially toward a CL in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Damn oh wait.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So so out of eight years he's been he's been
injured five of eight yep, college including.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He's an inding see because one year I think he
had a shoulder injury.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes, I think when he was at Indiana. If I'm
not I might be wrong. I could be wrong, but
I think when he was at Indiana before he went
to Washington. YEP.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now that sucks, man, that that that that that totally sucks.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That sucks. I hate that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I hate that for him.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Obviously, they weren't having the season you know, they they
would want to have. But I think obviously the growing
pains and being a rookie with it being you know,
your first time starting and getting the full reps, getting
the custom that to how the game flows and how
it goes and and you know, the ups and downs
of being the start and the quarterback for a franchise.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You need those reps. You need those reps.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
And I'm sure after this season ended, he would have
been much better. Yes, being familiar with everything, the system,
the play calling, the team, just just everything together.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Damn that that that that totally sucks to be for.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Him to have a season and an injury and be
behind eight ball and at that point anything a c
L there's no need for a second opinion.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
There's no need for a second opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Going there, get the work that needs to be done
so you can get back that much faster going in
to the following year, which you're having what six six seven,
maybe you got got a good, got a good six
to seven.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, I mean you, I mean, look just November, so
you have the surgery. So you got December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's nine months. You know, that's plenty time. Is it
the same leg? Is it the same knee.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I just hope he can have a career like Thomas Davis.
Thomas Davis tour his ACL three times, it came back
to be an All World linebacker for the Carolina Panthers.
So let's just hope if it's a situation like that,
because he ended up having a very promising NFL career
after tearing his ACL as many times as he did.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Damn man. That's yeah, it's something. Drake London got hurt
as well. I saw something with Drake. Yeah, I ain't
gonna be out. I think he's gonna be out at
least this week. Damn man.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Like these injuries due.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The Falcons dropped the quarterback at the top ten, paid
a different quarterback one hundred and eighty million to avoid
being in the quarterback purgatory.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Somehow, they year and a half later, they're in quarterback purgatory.
Raheem Morris.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
After drafting Michael Penning's junior at number eight, we're talking
about winning the NFC South and going to the playoffs.
We don't want to be picking that high anymore. We
don't want to be in that position that helped us
make this decision. Say things to say that they're not
going its way. If they're not going as well as
they hoped, it didn't make sense to me. Yeah that
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you that you pay cousins that kind of money coming
off the injury that he had and still sign a quarterback.
A quarterback where I get it, o Jo. But he
still had an injury history. Yeah, I'll be thinking about it.
You think it's hard for me to see a scenario
where they would select any other player in any other
position that's coming off that's his career would have been
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ended like four times before coming to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So let that seek in.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Let's just say he had five years and four of
those years this season ended with a season end the injury.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You're probably not going in the top ten. Damn.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Also, But I just hope, like I said, I hope
we can have a Thomas David type because Thomas ended
up going to Pro Bowls and helping the team get
to the super Bowl. But it's tough. I can just
imagine rehab all over again, O Joe. And the thing is,
when you rehab, you can't train. No, you're just hoping
(04:19):
to get back to a point where you have functionality.
Training is where you put your body into a situation
where a you can call on it and you knowing
what answer. He don't get to do that, You got
to You gotta rehab. That is what you do with rehab.
Rehab just gets you back to where you were. I'm
trying to good father to where I was, Oh, Joe,
where I was. It's I mean, I feel I feel
(04:42):
bad for the young man.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I hate injuries do it because I understand how much
it sets it sets players back, especially when you want
to improve year to year. Yeah, the season ends, you
want to improve in your game. You want to add
new thing to your game. You know, to be able
to help not just help you out, but help your coaches,
help your players. Because the better come back from a
skill set is it easier you make everyone else's job
around you. That's that's that's what I always thought about.
(05:06):
How can I make everyone else job around me? All Right?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
When we have a game, Uh, when we.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Have a game and we got an officer plan, Carson,
you don't have to worry about me, barbra Kowski, marvel Lewis,
you don't have to worry about me.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Now, just focus on another ten offensively you already I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Be there for you. No, matter what you need, no
matter what you need. So I always try to put
that mindset in the players. When you get in season,
that's just coaching, that's just exit and those you're not
getting any better in season, No, you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Put you to maintain your strength. Guess your shoulders hurt,
your hips hurt, your joints hurt. You get up under
that weight and why and do leg press and bench.
I mean you, you know, you do it as long
as you can. But some days, hey, my elbows just hurt.
My shoulders hurt. I can't get up under that heavy
ass wait and pressing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Hey, you get the bulky work, the meat potatoes. You
getting better as a player, you know from from the
skill point is the off season. That's why is so important.
That's why taking the time off that's necessary. When the
season ends, weeks you get into that work. I'm telling you, hey, receivers,
come on, come on down there. I'll let you. Boy.
(06:20):
You know, all these injuries. I can stop all these injuries.
Listen to me. Everybody like to laugh and he he
and ha ha, yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, oh Joe. The Falcons do not have a first
round pick. That first round pick belongs to the Rams.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
The Rams in Minnesota. The Rams. Okay, they haven't given
of anything, but Cousins Cousin was a free agent.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh shit, that's right, that's right, you're right, right, But I.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Think about it, Oh, Joe, name another position a guy
comes off of achilles injury after his level twelfth year
in the league and gets that come contract. Name a
position other than quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
No, there is none. Because they understand how valuable the
quarterback position is. That's why you take a chance. You
understand it's hard to get quarterbacks that have put up
the numbers that Kirk Cousins is put up, even though
he only had one playoff win.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's extremely difficult, extremely difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's why taking him a chance on a player like
Kirk Kirk Cousins, despite his history, you know, and not
making a playoff, despite the injury coming off in the
kileis okay. You know what, Well, he's not a dude
threat quarterback anyway. You know, once that Akis heals up,
he can be able to do what he normally does
as your functioning quarterback. He's a willing and dealing quarterback.
(07:38):
Will he's a he's surgical with the ball. He just is.
That's him. Were gonna take a chance, he's gonaive him
that kind of money. And then also the type of
type of player, type of person he is. He's a
high character guy, you know, you know, so you you're
willing to take that the way take that chance, you're
willing to make that investment is no hindsight.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But I told you at the time, I said, oh Joe,
contract just doesn't make sense to me to guarantee that
type of money for a guy. Uh that now, if
that's Tom Brady, that's Peyton Manning. Okay, I get it.
They're they're certified. Then you know, they they they they're approved.
But for a guy that hadn't had postseason success and
(08:23):
and and and he's had it coming off from a
Kiley's injury, and he's not mobile to begin with, he's
gonna be less mobile, It didn't make sense to me.
And then you go draft a quarterback. If that was
the case, why not why just say that money, oh Joe,
and just go get you a quarterback? If that's if
that was the route you wanted to take, you.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To think about it. Where they gonna get one from?
Where where you gonna get.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
In the draft, Like they went and got Piddicks from
Oh hey, listen, you understand how difficult it is to
find him a franchise altering quarterback.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You understand how difference that is because so yeah, because
it's one franchise autry.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, but he can he can help you compete week
the week. He can help you compete. Look at look
at look at what's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Some of the teams that have been struggled for years
to actually find a good, decent quarterback because you know,
once you get one, just let him be, let him
be good. Just you know, they took.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They took Atlanta in twenty twenty one draft. They took
Kyle Pitts number four. Gets who went number five that year,
Jamar Chase, Oh yeah this Jayalen Wall with six, Penay
Sewel with seventh, j C. Horn went eight, pats Or
Tad the second with nine, Davonte Smith w ten, Michael
(09:44):
Michael with with twelve, Rashaun Slater with thirteen. I mean,
if you take a tight end that high, you gotta
use them. But when they do use your cale, you're
gonna have to catch the ball now. And it's and
I know it's problem because he gets the ball so infrequently.
He's trying to hit his head on the goal post
every time he gets the ball, because he's like, I
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don't know when I'm gonna got another chance.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And he gets and I've never seen somebody score without
the ball. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You gotta you gotta catch it. And I know, like
I said, I understand the frustration of this will be
because you know, he came on and told us, Hey,
the chemistry that he and and and Pennis had, they
were they were talking, Pennies were talking about it in
camp and he was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He came on night camp and talked about it. Damn.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I don't know. Give me the coaches that were hired. Oh,
they interviewed. They interviewed Jim Harbor, the faculty. The interviewed
Jim Harbaugh. They said, no, the interview of my Rabele,
they said no, the interview Mike McDonald, Mike McDonald, They
said no, I think the interview Ben Johnson. They said no.
(11:10):
I'm happy Raheem got the job. But mister Blake probably like, damn.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Hey, you gotta you gotta work with what you got.
You gotta work with.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What you got. Uh. I just.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Johnson, Well, he did a good job passing on some
of them. Uh, oh Joe, he's gonna have to get
it together, man, yeah, because I look they're getting restless.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They're getting restless in Atlanta. Hey, them players gott to
help you out, man, they do playing players, and players
got to help you out.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Listen the old the old adage. Players will get you fired. Yeah,
they will get you fired.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
They can get you hired and fired. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Man, I feel for Rahiem Man. Damn, I just thought
this was gonna be hopefully turned around. Oh yeah, and
coach Belichick. Man, man, y'all saw Coach Belichick. The guy
took his hat off.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Oh Joe, did you
see that? Yeah, man, Billy coach took his hat off.
The shape and you can't even look the man in
his eye. Oh joe. Hey, Bill through everybody like that though,
so he can't. He can't feel bad. You look at
you look at Bill at the end of the Patriots games,
and you keep keep it moving. He making a be live.
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It's different college.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You set in an example. You ain't setting no example
in nonfing because he's on this now. Think about how
many times in the AFC championship game that a Tony Dungee,
a Bill Cower or a Rex Ryan has had to
come out there and talk to CBS. This is this
is really what rubbed me the wrong way. And I
think Coach Belichick is the greatest NFL coach ever, absolutely,
(13:20):
But this is what rubbed me the wrong way is
that the rules don't apply to him and the NFL
has let this behavior go on. But let a player
don't want to do the media and say, you know what,
I don't want to do the media day. I'm gonna
let oh yo go do it. They gonna do they
gonna darck me money. But he's supposed to do it.
And he said some special teams got out there, some
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backup line when we ain't. Nobody ever heard of him
but his family. That's what rubbed me the wrong way.
That man took his hat off to shake your hand
and then you like like basically give me your blundy.
That's that's that's always rubbed me the wrong own way
about him.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It always have and and two things can be true.
He can be great and be a jackass at the
same time. Bothers me. You heard me, huh. He's always
been this way, and he not changing. That's the funny part. Well,
I'm in the NFL. This is the way I conduct myself.
Oh now I'm in college. This is the way I
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conduct myself. And I'm not changing for anybody. I'm not changing.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think the thing is, Yeah, when you're winning, When
you don't win and you give people your job, your
butt to kiss and they're in position to hire you,
what did they do, Oh Joe, They're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Next yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Oh, George.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
There was plenty of speculation to while the Cowboys star
receiver Seedy Lamb and George Pickens were benched for the
opening drive against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
See, he confirmed the rumors that he and.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Pickings had been past curfew, having dinner and a few
drinks at Red Rocket Sino. Okay, you should have hit
your boy on. I came out with y'all. However, see,
he made sure to shoot down any claim that he
was seen throwing up around seven thirty am. See he
said such a claim was offensive to him because he
knows how to hold his liquor.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh Joe, Yeah, hey what they do? Hey? But shoot, Hey,
I'm gonna be honest with you. Weren't. I had, not
me personally, but it was a lot of folk late
during my time. Either I'm not one. I ain't no snitch.
You know, I ain't gonna do that, nothing like that.
You know. If I'm ever in the chair, I'm gonna
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just plead the fifth, you know. But I didn't seen
it happen. Now now it's a little bit different because
we got cameras everywhere everywhere. Technology is a little different.
So when we played, didn't nobody know because it wasn't
nobody to tell unless somebody close to you snitched on you, yep,
or you told yourself by actually on a blake. And
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most of the time it was Kevin House. Now, boy,
everybody can see everybody because he got the camera phone.
Because even when you.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Try to go out like hey, can I get a picture?
I said, no, I'm right, Yeah, somebody gonna know because
you're gonna post.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It and if you don't give and if you don't
give him a picture, they'll get mad and tweet guess
who I saw? Asshold ro how you go with me?
How you gave up my position?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's like it's like the guy that I had went
to the Airbnb and he left a negative rating. The
guy that owned the airbnb sent the photo of his
wife to his wife of him going to the airbnb
with another woman.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But that's real Yes, that wasn't No, that wasn't no
Netflix show or that's real life, real life. Oh oh
oh you got you got to see you.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Gotta get he gotta get these dumb dumbs what yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, hey, you have messed up my marriage on account.
It wasn't me, but it was you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
No hold on, you said you messed up my airbnb.
Give me this bull job rating. Now people ain't gonna
want to come to my spot. Hey, that's the true
meaning of an eye for an eye. Yeah, but oh Joe,
the thing is, if you're in the room, why would
you even why would you even do that?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Why would you leave a negative rating? Because for one,
you didn't think you didn't think he was. You were
stoop that low you didn't think he was.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I mean, I'm thinking, like most of these Airbnb's got
cameras right.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
At camera, can camera and aaron b at worst case,
a ring camera or a ring camera.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yes, okay, yeah, you so how you go get in? Yeah, okay,
you're right, so that but you said Hey, hey, Kean,
you see the difference. C DN pickets was our past curfew,
having it done on a few drinks.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
They missed the series. You missed two games. There's levels.
You're not at that level yet.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Hey, Keith, we gonna get you there, boy, come on,
let your boy in the off seat. And I'm telling you, boy,
we're gonna get you right you hear me. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh Joe, me man, I'm sleepy, I'm tired. Hey, my
thing is O yoe? When I when like we after
we have a meeting, you know, we have our individual meetings,
then we have a team meeting. Yeah, might gonna play
a video here, gonna play the top plays from last week.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We have a little music to it.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And then you know, he gonna give us our speech
what he expects blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
And do we go we go get you know, a meal. Yeah,
oh Joe, I'm trying to go to bed. I ain't
I ain't got it in meet. Yeah. See you a
little different you you old school with yo. You you
a little structure. You got a little disciplined when it
when when it came to your approach. Yeah, yeah, players
to day they're a little bit more relaxed. Relax. You know,
(18:57):
I want to be out. I want to enjoy myself,
to have a nice little ll you know, see what's
out there. You know we're in Vegas. I might I
might have tried to shake the cofor Spot Dark. Yeah yeah,
hold on today, hold on no, no before a game,
no game. I can't. I can't do that. I can't listen.
(19:17):
My cut off. My cut off was Wednesday. My cut off,
My cut off was Wednesday. If I don't catch you
between Sunday and Wednesday, oh no, I can't. I can't
do nothing with you. I can't. I don't want no.
I don't want no. I don't want no, no latic
acid bill up. I don't want those spaghetti legs. So
you got you got to get that work between that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I cut off with two hour for the game. If
I cut off two hoye for the game, oh hold
on damn.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, but but you ain't had no leg you out
there running with no legs? Nah?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Hey nah? Oh Joe, you see you remember the movie
Free Willie? Yeah, how when it came up bout that pool. Yeah,
that's me.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Free Willing.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I think that's a I think that's a misnomer. You
think so, I think so.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I don't know, boy, I don't know, because no, I don't.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I had a couple I know for sure, I had
a couple of real big game, real real, real big ones.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
After Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not listening. I'm
not from one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Sixty one sixty eighty one twenty with you know, one
fifty a couple of two.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, right, right right, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe
I'm not even superstitious. I'm not even superstitious, But I
just understand that feeling of horizontal activity and then finishing
and having a stand up and oh shoot, and just
being a little wobblely, you know, not not not not
not being in my right state of mind, but damn,
(21:04):
an equilibrium must be off. I don't play like that.
I don't play like yeah, I mean you see you
see position. I don't play like that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But bad, nah, but in all seriously like bad in
today's time, with like you say, the technology the way
it is. Yeah, you can't seize you. It's just hard.
It's hard. It's hard to get away seeing them owned it. Hey, Jay,
gonna tell you pigres to go out anytime. He won't
you after that performance, because that's one of the best
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performances he's seen.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Matter of fact, with the way they playing in general
as a one A and one B. May y'all go
ahead and do what you need to do, do what
you need to do. You know, as long as you
show up the way you you've been showing up on
the field, may be good. Hey good, just ay, just hey.
Just don't let nobody see y'all. Don't let nobody see
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y'all going out. Yeah, that's it. That's it. And when
you come in coming and when you come in coming
through the back.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Though George Pickings hopes his first season, it is not
his last. Picking said, I love to be back, especially
with CD and Dak all my all the guys.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Really.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Pickens is the fourth and final ye ever's rookie contract
that he signed with the Steelers at the second round
in twenty twenty two. He's scheduled becoming an unrestricted free
agent in March. Of March, Pickens has nine hundred and
eight receiving yards through ten games, the most threw the
first ten games of a player's tenure in Dallas franchise history.
He's uh, he's second in receiving yards. O Jo, you know,
(22:45):
I know you want Pick to chase the bag. Would
you be content if Picks stayed in Dallas?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Man? Listen, hold on. I want to talk about these
stats real quick now. I want people to understand and
and and understand how spell So George Pickens is right,
George Pickens is second in receiving yards nine hundred and eighth.
He only got fifty eight catches. Yeah, he only got
fifty eight catches.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So that's that's letting you know. He's doing more with less,
you know. So let's start there now. George Pickens coming
back to Dallas. I like the idea. I like the idea, right,
you know, Pickens ceedee lamb That Dak Prescott. We understand
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how special, especially with him having a year remove going
to a second year on how special they can be offensively.
But I understand Dak has to get done again. I
understand that. I understand they'll they'll do Dak again. They're
not gonna let that know.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think DAK number is damn there like seventy seventy
dollars cap here, So they'll REDODK again but probably give
him another four year, five year deal making like three
hundred million dollars, and they'll give him, you know, at
the time of signing, they'll give him a hundred million
dollars and he'll get he'll get I mean, he got
guaranteed right now two hundred and twenty nine million, So
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he'll get another deal, probably a two hundred and fifty
million guarantee.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But it is is Dak willing to take less to
make sure George Piggins gets what he deserves, to make
sure he get close to his value, because he's not
gonna get anywhere near close to his value if he
stays in Dallas. I would love from the Stan Dallas.
He would be great there offensively and what he can
do based on what he's putting on display right now.
I love it. I love the idea. I just understand
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when it comes to getting your first contract, your first
big contract, most of the time unless you that guy,
like that guy guy they've already paid ce d Lamb. Yeah,
you know, so based on where he is right now,
he would suppose to be. If he was elsewhere, he
would overlap ceede Lamb's contract. Correct, he would overlap it.
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But he won't be able to do and get a
true value because he's staying in Dallas. So does he
want to take a discount and say, you know what,
I'm gonna stay here, I'm gonna take less to stay
here in Dallas and be productive here, or do I
want to go somewhere else? Now, whatever he chooses to do, that,
that's on him. But I'm gonna have a conversation with
David Mulling Getta and we're gonna sit down and we're
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gonna talk, and we're gonna see what type of plan
we're gonna put together for a pick and see what's
best for him for r for see of your future. Now,
Dallas Cowboy fans, I love y'all. I love with pick
bringing to the table, but don't be selfish. Don't be selfish.
You should want what's best for Pick two. Yes, being
with the Dallas Cowboys, that's what you want because you're
(25:41):
a Dallas Cowboy fan. But what's best for George Pickens
his family and his long term Let's think about him
long term, you know, and being able to set up
not just his kids, but his grandkids kids, you know. Now,
if he can get that down in Dallas, I'm all
for it.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I think the thing is Joe they you know, they.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Do they redo that.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That'll take that'll take thirty million off the cap right there,
to make his cap, to bring his cap number down. Yeah,
they'll probably do something restructure, Uh, give CDs money and
assigning bonus. Yeah, gotta take more money off the cap.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
So I think I could, I could. I see him
getting a deal somewhere five years, one hundred and eighty million. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay,
we're cooking. Okay, we're cooking. I can see we're cooking.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Now. The problem is, now, see we thinking sensible, Yeah,
me and you thinking sensible. The chat, they thinking sensible,
especially any Cowboys fans that's in the chat. You know.
I love y'all too. I love y'all. Y'all. Don't think
I'm hating. I love y'all. But and Jerry gonna think sensible, Yeah,
I think he is. He gonna think sensible. Now, we
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know how Jerry Jones is when it comes to when
it's time to pay. You understand that. Now, if George
Pint gonna have the patience to deal with that bullshit
Jerry like to do making you wait till the last
goddamn minute. I don't know. We understand the issues that
Jerry Jones had with David mulli Getter in the past. Yeah,
is he gonna have the patience the one to deal
(27:20):
with the bull drive that Jerry gonna put him through.
So there's other dynamics that come into play. You know. Well,
what muller Getta might want to tell Pick man, Listen,
we ain't got time for this ship. Oh my bad,
I'm sorry. We ain't got time for this. I think
because Pick got an edge to it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I think Pick has a lot of on the
field and how he goes about his business on the
field has a lot of Michael Irbin in it. Yeah,
we know what Jerry thought of Michael. Yes, what he
thinks of Michael. So I think he would probably lean
towards probably getting something done. That's that that's going to everybody,
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because he realized out he traded for Mingo.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Mingo ain't seen the field yet.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, this year, I think he's been a healthy scratch
the last couple of times. Remember they traded a fourth
round pick from to Carolina to get Mingo. He's finally
got a guy. He's finally got a guy. Yeah, that's
carparable to CD. It's hard to get a guy carparable
to your number one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah he can. He can fight him tooth and nail.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Big, great, great hands, make tough catches, tremendous run after
the catch, very good, big, big, big body receiver. Jerry
realized those guys don't grow on trees, absolutely not. And
we got him, and we got him.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
In our home.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The best thing to do when you got him in
your home on your dusk, what don't let him leave.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Don't let him leave. Don't let him leave.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He's on pace for nine to our receptions fifteen hundred
and forty four yards in twelve touchdown. Dak is the
only team in the NFL this season to have featured
top five player in passing, rushing, and receiving yards. Dak
is field up in passing yards by Tay Williams, is
fifth in rushing yards.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Pick is second in receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Man, So think about all the offense they got and
look where they are because why the defense.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, you just gotta pick it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Up and we'll see, we'll see if they can replicate
what they did they got the Eagles. We'll see if
they can replicate what they did. They went out made it.
They let Michael Parkson. They traded Michael Parkson to get
Kenny Kenny Clark in Quinny Williams.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That's what Ada said. Look, we gotta stop the run Clark.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's more of a run stuff for Quinny Williams can
play the run, but he's more of a pass rushing DT.
You got Clowney, you got Filed, you got Williams. You
got some guys that you got a Digga Zua that
you paid a lot of money to. He's still there.
So we're gonna see. We're gonna see the Eagles. We're
gonna we gonna see what the eagles. We're gonna see
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what the eagles because they're gonna need You're gonna need
to stab to run you on the road. Yeah, see
a SA quad can get loose. Looks like Lane Johnson's
gonna be out. They're gonna have that back up in there.
We'll see. He says, Hey, I want to make a
name for myself. Lane Johnson is thatding stone. He is
what he is, one of the great UH lineman in history.
Now it's my time to get an opportunity to show
you what I'm capable of.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So it's gonna be very, very interesting. But anybody everything.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I don't know what Jerry thought he was gonna be
when he traded for him, but he had to be.
He has to have been everything that Jerry had hoped
for and more.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Absolutely. Uh uh we was there.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Ever a great a teammate that you thought to keep
on the team?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Man? TJ Man, Who's Who's that? You know? I hate
the dirty side of the business, but you know it
is a business. I wanted who's to stay? Yeah, you know,
I thought I thought that that that that that chemistry
we had and being from Oregon State and going from
Orgon State being drafted to the Bengals. I mean I
wanted that continuity to the state throughout but the entirety
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of my career, so obviously things didn't go that way.
I mean, that's about the only person. That's about the
only person. They ain't really asked me. They really they
really asked me. Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mean, as I got older, I think once I
went there and and and and and and came back,
I think might value my opinion on what I thought
of certain guys.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But for me, a you make your own decisions.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, I'm going home, and if I guess what and
when I come back in the spring for OTA's and
they here.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I guess they. I guess they moved on. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Despite being eight and too and fresh off his Super
Bowl win, there continues to be a lot of negativity
surrounded the Eagles. A. J. Brown threw more gas on
the fire to day when asked about speculation that he
isn't the same player he once was.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, Joe, let's take a listen to with AJ had
with that bull. I mean, there's speculation out there that
you are not the same player. What would you say
to those people? I guess that at the same player.
All right, Hey, you see how the bull drives start?
(32:21):
You see how the bull they come up with that? Oh,
your production is not the same as it was before.
So now you're not the same player no more. Oh
now you lost a step. This is the game they played.
This is the game they play, this is this is
this is how they do this, how they do Hey,
you know, ain't nothing wrong with that man. Man, you
can see you watch film, you watch the games on
(32:43):
It ain't nothing wrong with that man. Why even see
the reporter be playing that's how she You know what
I would have swung on that reporter games.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
But you see oo ojo, you see how you frame it.
What do you say to those that say that you're
not the same player?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
What do you say about those that say you're not
the same hoping that he gets something? They got what
he wanted? Yeah, I guess ain't the same player. They
got what they wanted. Yeah, because the content, it don't
even matter the context. Yeah, y'all said, I'm not the
same player. Well, Kuan ain't got a fivesand yards rush.
Remember at this point in time last year he had
a five to yard exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
So, so so what why y'all didn't asking?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Why are y'all not asking questions about him?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So y'all keep.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Coming, y'all keep coming to me asking me questions. But
if the run does the run game look the same?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Nope, show don't. So that means sa Quan lost it. No,
ain't nothing wrong with him, Ain't nothing wrong him. It
ain't nothing wrong with either. The reporters know that. But
then you know that the reporter gon go fishing every time.
Now it's on the player on whether they catch that
bit or not. You're right, Joe. That's it, you know,
A J. Brown. He wanted them. He he gonna give
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you what you wanted speaking his mind. Now, he gonna
every time. There was one other player just like that too,
that played that you know over there at that War
eighty one. Yeah, you asked him a question. He gonna
get you what you want every time, So be careful.
He ain't sugar coat nothing bad. Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I just think the thing is now is that we
eighting too. Yeah, so what can we be critical of?
Ain't really anything you can be critical of because the
team's ain't too the number one end of it, the
number one team in the division. So let's go to
AJ Brown and hopefully he says something negative about somebody else.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
That's all you gotta hold. That's all they're hoping for
now with ya.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's it you said, Like you said, it's a fishing expedition.
Let me see how big. Let me see how big
of a fish I can catch. As matter of fact,
this is the thing too, right. The bait is the
way you wor the question. Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
The bait that the reporters use is the way they
word the question. I'm a word in this way and
say they say you know, we don't even know who
they is? Who is they? Is they watching film? Is
they not seeing what's going on? Yeah? We eight and two.
I've been complaining about they the whole time. They should
know what the problem is. And how about this here?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
If whoever say that I'm not the same player, will
ask the opposing team why they could keep putting that
number one corner on me?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Then if I ain't what they.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Say, if I if I ain't what you think or
what they say, I am. All I know is I
get roll coverage and I get their best that get
their best corner. They don't put their third corner on me.
They don't put the second and third corner on me?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
They say, I ain't got it no more? You're right,
I don't throw me the ball and find out. Yeah,
that's the only way. I mean, that's that's all I
can tell you. That's all I got for you. I
ain't got nothing else to say. I really don't. Look,
y'all know how I feel about this situation. Yes, I'd
like to be a more active participant in the offense.
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I think if if all the receivers I think, you
look and I don't want to speak for anybody else.
But I think we all think that we could be
more involved and the offense would would flow smoother. If myself,
Davante Godter Johnson, if we became more involved. That's not
where we are right now. Hopefully that changes any more questions.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Good, that's it. That's all I got for Yojo. Yeah, yeah,
hey that that that's that. That's that good politically correct answer.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hey hey, hey, I thought about being politics. Hey I
still might might be perfect for politics right now.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Politician. Okay, Okay, I like I said.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
He with that being said, O Joe, No, I was
just like, hey, now we're not playing what you want
me to say.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Man, you're watching the games. Yeah, we're not. We're not.
We're not playing well, and we're not good offensively.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
No, who can you pick out and say, Okay, they're
doing an outstanding job offensively.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Bro We ain't scoring a touchdown in a month.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
A month, but the professional NFL team has not scored
a touchdown. So there's enough blame to go around on
everybody offensively, from coaches to players, myself, the quarterback, the
offensive line, the running backs. There's no way to just
pinpoint to blame because one time we get a holding call.
Next time we jump off side. The next time we
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make a mistake, we do a minimal mistake. So there's
enough blame if we just and it's just not okay,
we get something going positive holding, we get something going,
then we have somebody with a minimal mistake.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
So there's enough blame to go around. But at the
end of the.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Day, it's a point everybody on this offense that's in
that room and the coaches to figure it out. So
let me ask you a question. You think Cincinnati feeling
sorry for us? You think Tennessee feeling sorry for us?
You tell me the team that's on our schedule that
feel sorry for us, that we haven't scored a touchdown
in five weeks. No, nobody, So they not feeling sorry
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for it? Why the hell we feeling sorry for ourselves?
Empathy is something someone else have for you. You can't
have it for your damn self. Oh, pold me, Oh
we'll stay over there. They were there, But ayja brot,
don't let them try to get you to throw to
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try to throw a dirt on somebody else. Don't even
do it. Hey, y'all heard what I said. Idam said,
I don't really need to reiterate it. I've just been
saying this for the last year. I would like to
become more involved in the offense, not out of selfish reasons.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Do you see our passing game.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's struggling and right now we're very dependent on the defense.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
But at what point in.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Time do we get the captain carric that do we
have to do we get to earn our checks because
the defense is earning their checks every week.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Every week. Right now, we're getting pre checks. M yep.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So aj Lady said he does not watch the otherwise
receivers doing rude in the NFL reporter to ask him
say why, his response it gets me upset. Absolutely now
this now he's talking my language.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Ba Hey, listen, Unless unless you're being productive, unless you're
a part of the offense, weeke in and week out
and knowing that you're you're going to have those catches
and those opportunities. I'm not watching the others that are
getting them because I'm gonna get me mad. You think
I'm gonna be watching film on Jamar and JSN and
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George Pickens and Davonte Adams and they out there going
crazy weekend. If we get ten twelve targets a game,
five man, please, man, absolutely not. I don't want to
see that. Hell Na.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I was very poty, Like I said, It was like
it is now on Joe where they had we had
this influx of tight ends. But yeah, Ben Coach had
one sixty, I had had forty. Yeah nah, man, that
man aint no on hundred and twenty yards better than me.
U No, hell nah, I see Brent Jones or them
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get Oh no, hell no. So I I one thousand percent,
one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I am.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I'm not watching, and don't let me and don't let
me you know, I'm playing one of those guys. Yeah, man, hey,
romo at man, don't y'all let that man come in
here and show you out in front of me. Don't
y'all let that man come in this house and show
out in front of me. Now, I'm just saying, don't
let that man come in this house and show out
in front of me.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Do what y'all aint, do what y'all do to me
in practice? Right? I like that. It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, man, come on, now, how how that is gonna look?
O yo, guns will come up in my house. Go
for a buck fifty. Now I'm on the sideline. Hell no,
hey like Tom see, I want to play with Tom
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because remember that that game that Randy went off, Randy
had like two or three touchdowns. Excuse me, TiO, we
had a win off with that two or three touchdown.
He said, come on, Moss, he gave Moss for in
the first half. You good, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good.
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I'm real good. Kevin Petula and Sirianni are quite obsessed
with a hitch route. Ranking the most hitch routes run
per game Bill True Media. Dallas Goddard nine point four four,
Devonte Smith nine point one, A J. Brown seven point
five six. No other team has more players in the
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top sixteen.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
What I told you, what I told you the other
day about about the rock concepts, I can tell you
what I can tell you what A J. Brown. I
can tell you what Devonte Smith is running based on
their alignment and based on formation and definitely based on
down and distance every single time, every time. I don't
play for the Eagles. I love football. I'm not an
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Eagle fan, but I watched the game. The fact that
I can still tell you what they doing. I don't
watch them every single week. I mean, I mean, if
if I know what's coming, you don't think the people
that actually watch film and get paid. Yeah, man, come on, man,
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I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I just don't know how you expect to be effective
when you have this many guys at the top running hitches.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Really push the ball down the field. You got to
because if you don't, they gonna sit on top of everything,
which is which is why most of the shorten it't
means them intermediate routes keep getting knocked down. Why because
they are no thread for you going on the top
of it.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Hell nah, why am I backing up knowing you ain't
going no farther than ten yards?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I ain't even getting out of my back pedal.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
That's why so many catch so many deep balls over
the top because he doesn't hitch them.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Hey, he just slanting them, hissing the death hissed.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
And slam them to death. And they be looking like, oh, heck, no,
he over the top of you.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Now, Hey, is either the hitch, the slant or the
curl that's it? Oh, or maybe the cross of the
overus the over rock.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
They a lot of over a lot of times where
they throw him the go ball, he's on the left
hand side.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yep, that's it. That's the extended the route treat for
them right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's like, and I know it's frustrated. It's frustrated because
you see all these guys. You see Jackson's, you see
js In, you see a Mecca, you see a Pookah,
you see Chase, you see all these.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Guys getting all the honey. I ain't getting another vinegar day.
We give me a number Vinago. Yo. Yeah, I'm salty.
And not only am I only Not only am I
only getting vinegar? They paying me thirty three million dollars. Yeah,
and the first thing they're gonna do is, well, man,
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I don't know your production slip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're
not the same. It seemed like you got lost a step.
We're paying you thirty three, but the production you're giving
us is like we're paying you twelve or ten. So
we're gonna ask you to take a picer of what
m hm. I already know. I listen, I already know
the game they' finna play. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be
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able do that. Guys. I wish I could. I wish
I could help you out with your captain. Yeah, h
mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Joe Burrow made few steps in his recovery journey on
Wednesday by being named a full participant in Bengals team practice.
Excuse me, this is the first time that he's gotten
the designation since he suffered the turf toe injury in
Week two. Joe would need to be activated by December
first from the injury reserve to have any chance to
play again this season. Oh yo, your Bengals are three
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and seven, yes, sir, three and seven, yeah, in seven
games to go.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah. Yeah. Is there a.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Scenario which you see if the Bengals were to lose Sunday?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Is there a scenario where you see Joe being activated,
because if he's not activated by Junior streaking me December first, Yes,
that means he can't. I mean basically, he can't come
off and he'd be on there for the rest of
the season. Do you see a scenario where you guys
lose this game and him come off injury reserve?
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, honestly, I think regardless, there is really no scenario
in this matter or in this case, whether we win
or whether we lose Joe Burrow, being the competitor that
he is, he would probably over ride any suggestions that
he gets from doctors, Uh, anyone that sits in positions
of power, in in that uh, in that in that
front office. And he's coming back to play whether we
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lose it or not. I just knowing Joe Burrow, the
type of player he is, the type of competitor is
whether we have a chance to to get to the
playoffs or he can have want to finish the season
off strong and and and and make some of a
statement to show that he can still stay upright. He
can he can still be healthy, you know, regardless of circumstances,
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whether we're going to the playoffs or not.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
So he just you're just looking forward to them getting
back out there on the field. You don't, You ain't
really you don't really think y'all gonna make no playoffs.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Hey, Joe, Joe, Honestly, right now, I haven't really really
thought of the scenarios or the possibility of us making
the playoffs at three or seven. I think it's very
very difficult, Joe. Honestly, I think it's very difficult. But
for me, uh, I would love for Joe to come back,
not even playoff scenario, but just the finish the season
off strong, finished the season off strong, getting you know,
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get in there, do what you can strong. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah. From hold on, let me finish. I'm
not I'm not talking about I'm not talking about from
a team standpoint at this point when we when you're
three and seven. I'm just saying individually, all players need
to finish the season off strong from an individual standpoint
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so they feel a little better about themselves going into
next year. Regardless of whether we we did well or
we whether we did well or we didn't, as a team.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
We ain't no regardless, ain't no area right, regardless you regardless, regardless.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I said, I said, or regardless. Yeah, y'all were terrible
this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were terrible, but finished
out on no good note. Okay, I said. That's why
I said individually, That's why the first thing I said,
even if even if we lose what we won't, which
you probably won't.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
You gone to lose, take the ILF out. Take the
ILF out. First of all, y'all would losing with Chase.
Y'all losing with Chase.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, he gown. Okay, now let's try again. Like I said,
someone someone who has a little optimism, Joe, I'm talking, Joe,
I'm gonna talk to you. I'm a little optimistic. Ain't
no telling what's gonna happen. I know Chase is not
playing this game. We got eleven weeks. You know what's
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gonna happen. You know what I he Joe, I don't.
I don't like. I don't like the way uncles treat
my bank. Hey O, Joe, I think y'all just need
to let you know what. I just want to take
my last bike. Take the last bike, Take take your
time talking.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
I want to go ahead and finished against some food
on my stuff because I've been hungery. I had had
a couple of bents I had to go to that
I would get my last my lab right.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Now, take a time. Me and Joe got it, Me
and Joe anyway, Joe, Like I was saying, listen from
from an individual standpoint, Joe knowing how Burrow is, knowing
the competitor that he is, he's a liar, Hey, Joe,
he coming back to play, Joe regard regards to how we're.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
Doing that, listy, But sometimes oh, Joe, you know we
can get in our own way.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Now the man been bogged down with and you know
that tod lingo bro. I know that, Joe. I know
I Joe. I know one thing. If Joe, if Burrow
ain't feeling one hundred percent, he not taking his ass
out there on that field.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
Well then he ain't gonna play it. It ain't no
way here that toad gonna be one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Man. You listen, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
Let the man, Let the man heal up, and then
y'all get another crack at the next year.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
If it don't happen next year, or Joe, you gotta
blow that thing up. Okay, Okay, I mean I like that, Joe,
but I me me honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing,
knowing how he is, he's sitting on that sideline, Joe,
if if he can go and then the think about it,
eighty eighty five, eighty seven, even a ninety percent Joe
Burrow is better than half the goddamn league. It's better
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than half the league out there, even hobble. So I
would like to see I would like to see him though, honestly,
just to finish it all strongest just so you feel
good about yourself in your head and when in the
back of your head it's like, well, god, damn, I
haven't been hurt three out of six seasons, you know,
and it ain't ain't been able to contribute to help
my team out. Man, shit knowing him. Man, I'm finishing this.
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I'm finishing this. Shit off.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Hey look, I'm sure he probably does want to get
back up. I mean he's making a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, oh yeah, O yeah, but Ojo.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
Sometimes man, you know you gotta get in guys, wait
man and just tell them, Hey, look, we understand.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, we know you want to play. Yeah, but you.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
Probably need to sit the rest of this season. Now
we can get you right going in the next season. Hey,
many like that just playing football just to be finishing
the season and they mayn't get hurt again.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Now come on now. Yeah, I mean, you're right. I'm
trying to help you' all. I'm trying to joe you Joe,
you're right, But I'm telling you how the individual is.
He's an animal, but he an animal, right, animal. I
just I just don't see any scenario where he can
gonna sit down, especially he was a full participant in
practice today. He was a full participant in practice.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
See feel like tomorrow. Unless Joe Burrow will come back
as the combination of Miles Garrett and Laurence Taylor, y'all
ain't going nowhere. I don't give come back.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
And we understand that part.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Joe, Miles Garrett and Lawrence Taylor, little Big the Deon Sanders,
Garray lewis in there.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
So one of them he's gonna be right. I mean,
neither one neither one day. You have to understand that,
that's not the part we talk about. You got to
understand the type of individual Joe is. You got to.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
You don't become the number one overall peak without being
a competitor. And that's also don't become somebody without being realistic.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, man, I understand that, Joe. I mean have you seen. Yeah,
that man ain't thinking about none of that. That man
ain't thinking about none of that. That man is thinking
about getting on that field, getting back healthy and trying
to contribute and finish the season off on a high
note for him in the village. So he feels better
about himself going into the off season. I'm telling you
how he thinking. I know it because if he wasn't.
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It wouldn't be no, no goddamn reason to be a
god damn price of today. Hey, Joe, he was. We
got something showing for you. What's that? What they bringing
the man? Look at look at they bringing it back? Joe?
Is that bubble rap? Y'all? Why y'all disrespect him a quarterback? Now,
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don't know? Hold on, hold on, well you over there laughing,
he bet he better than bo next down there in
Denver right now. And he ain't even and and Joe
ain't even not debating his skills set.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
We're not debating how good he actually is because excuse me,
we know he's great.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
We're not debating that. I know. But hey, but hold on,
the joke is just flying and he he and the
ha ha and like like he ain't that boy?
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Don't you don't think that fit? You just said? The
man been hurt three of his six years.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
I'm just speaking facts. On his first year he got hurt.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
The next year he went through, Then he went to
the then he went to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Then he got his wrist hurt. Now he done missed.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
He missed the entire rest of that season, which was
probably about eight nine games, now this is week twelve,
so he's gonna miss that bare minimum, a bare minimum
another ten games.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Right? What the hell happened to my camera?
Speaker 2 (53:42):
You had like you had like we put this around
Brett Farr Peyton, Come on that. You're talking about a
guy that's been He missed ten games his rookie season,
if not more. He's gonna miss ten games this season
with his wrist injury. He missed the probably another ten games.
So he's missed probably thirty games since he's been in
the league.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Right, I didn't. I didn't need you to detail all.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
That I need with Ojo. You know this. They gotta
be available.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, yeah, you listen, you're right, you are available? What good?
What good is that? Man?
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I had the best feet, man, I had the best
feet in the NFL. Yeah, but you played every other year?
Yeah yeah, you ready, you're right? But what you played
every Sunday?
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I did? I did? I did? Hey Joe, Hey, Joe,
you should have seen my feet Joey's thing right here, Joe,
Oh yeah, I seen you cut the rug too, the
thing right here, Joe? Yeah, hey them boy got a
mind of the on boy, yet we already know.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
What's gonna happen though, Joe Man, Joe had one hundred
and fifty yards two touchdown, but they lost.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, I think that's a line. That's a lie. Now,
don't don't do that. You long as you're saying, long
as Oho gat he is? He was cool. No, No,
I ain't, Joe. I'm not saying that I did everything.
He wasn't happy about it. He just knew he would. Hey,
you hot, he knew I gonna get mine.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Unfortunately, I'm not in a situation where as a team
we're good enough to win more than we lose.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Joe, So I gotta do I gotta do my part.
And Joe, my grandma always told me baby, in life,
you can only do one thing. You can control what
you can control and do your part. So Joe, I
did my part. Now collectively as a team, I can't
control the other ten people. I can't control the eleven
people that's on defense. But I know what I can't control.
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I control me. I can control them feet that had
a mind of their own. Hey, Joe, I'm the only receiver.
I'm the only receiver in the history of the game.
They didn't pay me to play receiver, Joe. They paid
me for my feet alone. I'm just saying, I'm just
being honest to you. It's in my contract. If you look,
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I show you a copy of contract. It states we
are paying him individually on what he's able to do
with his feet. That's what they pay me. So you said.
So you're saying when the dB lined up in front
of you, he had no chance. Let prefer who you man,
the devil is a lot Joe, I ain't play that
up there. You get a don't ever get too close
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to me when we would have a conversation because I'm
gonna talk to you all the way through the route. Okay,
huh yeah, Man, I ain't Joe. I ain't playing no game.
Joe Hey, wordless age Joe.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
He was, he was in this he was in this band.
O Joe is saying, really really good, But they ain't
have no number one hits because they would let him
sing lead. So if they let him sing lead, or
they had more people like oh Joe in the band,
the would have been really really could So in other words,
he really need to play an individual sport where he
just allowed himself because when you play football, you really
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gotta rely on the ten guys on offense, the eleven
guys on defense, and the eleven on guy that they
try out there every time on special team. Oh, Joe
did his thing, but like he said, he can only do.
He couldn't tackle nobody. He couldn't get no picks, couldn't
sack the water back.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Hey Joe, we had, we had some.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Then they didn't get They got really good once they
got they got caught. Well, kittdam wasn't bad Kidner threw
for four thousand kid It wasn't no bad quarterback, but
they was bad enough that they got They gotta ended
up getting Carson Palmer with the number on the overall pick,
and then once Canson got in there, they kind of
took off from there.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, hey Joe, we were good, man. We listen, we
had we had some. We had some up some down.
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Let that look. I don't get I don't pat you
on the back now. Yeah I was pat you on
the back. I wasn't trying to be dust at your clothes.
You know what I'm saying, Joe. He wanted me to
be dust out of clothes. Now, Damn, I appreciate it.
Could leave it at that, man, O, Joe was really
good Oh Joe did all what nice?
Speaker 1 (57:42):
Now? You know I was a little something now, a
little something to watch that. Yeah, hey Joe saying, you know, Joe,
I could fill up a stadium by myself. Joe, I
was like, you you gonna put on his shoulder now,
Oh yeah, you're gonna get that. You're gonna get that.
When I was playing home a way, I'm gona for
your stadium up.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
See, that's why I need to see. I need to
be I need to be a couple of years, a
couple of years younger, because he'd been talking to him
on the sideline, talked it right out of the game.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
How you gonna take my script and try to use
it on me? Oh Joe, you do realize that I
was talking for you was born? What do you know
where I'm from? Do you know where I'm from? Do
you understand we start in pee wee pee wee optimists.
That talking started at four years old. You wasn't doing
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that when you was fo you, when you was in Foe.
You was out there in the country, you know, picking watermelon.
You weren't talking like this. I came out to womb talking. Yeo,
this is what I do. Hey, Joe, I'm telling you, Joe,
right environment boy, I say you talking to right out
of his game, Joe. I'm saying, y'all ain't never playing
against each other.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, Hey Joe, he was younger than me.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Hey, don't matter, Joe. I spanked him when we played them.
Every time Joe, I showed up to the party Brock
with yeah that I was on. Joe, you was on,
You was on the team.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
What you're talking about, Joe, we already say you had
thirty something yards o Joe, that's all.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
That's what you mad. That's all. Yeah, I mean, because
I'm definitely saying I'm really not a thirty yard receiving
from the.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Fact that I was at thirty when you when and
when you scored against the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
Joe. I mean, oh, Joe, I was already at the game,
the game was over. WHOA do you know you're not
finna do that? Oh? No, the devil is a lot
because you've been out the game now for twenty some years,
and every time the bron gonna play.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Talking about I was when the game that you played
when I was with the Broncos, and the game you
scored on you scored with like twenty seconds the game
was over.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
I was on the headline, Draga kool a Bennett. Well,
hold on, wait a minute, Joe, he a unk Joe.
I think Unk might goddamnesia, because if I if I
recall in two thousand and five against the Denver Broncos
Monday Night football by when crazy, If I'm not mistaken,
I retired, I was in the boot. I was in
I was sitting at a desk. What does that have
(01:00:05):
to do. You just said I only scored against the
Broncos sat two decades. You just said I only scored
in the Broncos in the last thirty seconds. That's not
what I recall.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
No, no, no, I said when I was playing all okay,
okay with Shannon. I don't know what what you did
after I left, but I'm saying I you know, you
scored with like thirty five forty seconds left in the
ball game. I done got my shoes off, I got
on flip flops.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Okay, okay, it sounds I got on sound.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I got on showering shoes on the sideline. I done
cut my tape off and everything, and you stealing there
playing when you scored at the end, you were still
look it up, Hey, j looking up.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I think it was either two thousand and two, two
thousand and three. Joe. Look, I ain't gonna lie to
tell you. I remember like it was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
He's calling, we don't beat the were beating the brakes
off them.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Try to celebrate. I never a Joe one thing I
never do. I was always self aware. I was always
self Pull it up. You heard me, Joe, you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Were self aware with that one, because I don't know
why why I'm telling you know why you scored a
touchdown and want to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Hold, I'm telling you how it was. I never do
that a Joe unless we unless we're scoring first or
I'm scoring to tie. I never celebrate if I was
scoring we were losing. Never never, that's to me, that's
a lack of self awareness. And to me and myself,
I look crazy because why the hell am I celebrating?
Is none to celebrate for, and we're not winning the
game or actually tying the game. So that's something I
(01:01:35):
always kept win the game.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
With me, but said, well, whether oh three oh two,
I'm trying to think it might have been oh two
o two.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I gave y'all that work. That's all I know oh
three oh oh, get it right as pull up three
seats asked.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
When did all up? When did he score that touchdown?
When did he score that touchdown?
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah? Yeah, hey, hey Joe, you see you see ass
put out to receive Joe, I got to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Get boy that business. But see what hello? This care
was thirty to ten. He oh, this call was thirty
to three. Kift the calories. He did all that hard work.
He got some cardio in the first four and a
half qualt three and a half poin.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
You just heard say I will giving y'all that work.
You just heard ask't give y'all that work. You called
a twenty three yard touchdown. The score was thirty to three.
Wenna took our starts out. We ain't getting nobody who
want no the starters run out the game. They weren't
out the game because that which you're not gonna You're
not gonna putt no backups on me. Not no, no,
you're not no, you're not. I think the person if
I'm not mistaken, that was coming to me. He wore
(01:02:56):
twenty four.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
He wore twenty four to me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
The whole game. Who dealth O'Neill? No, no, no, Chap
wasn't there when I was there? Old Hoe? Okay him
after I was gone? Oh who wasn't? Who wasn't It
was Deltha O'Neill. Well he got that work too. Who
ended up playing with you in Cincinnati? And he got
that work. Anybody with a two and they number got
(01:03:19):
that work for years straight, except except Reeves. I'mnna give
this credit, I think if I'm not mistaken. Who who
you giving credit to? Oh? Res, that's it, that's it.
And then listen, hey, Joe, No no, no, no, no, no,
we didn't have Reavers. No no, no, I'm just saying
(01:03:40):
I was telling Joe. Anybody with a two as their
first number got that work for eleven twelve years straight. Joe,
I seen you Reevers? Oh man, it was like a
bad relationship that never turned out right, youar me? And
how you get the Reavers out and couldn't get off there? Huh?
Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Let me find out you was GILLAGAINI jo Hey, Joe,
I got Joe coming to.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Joe. I got stuff. Joe. I ain't have a passport.
He in defense like that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Listen, hey, Joe, he was nice, Joe, he he was nice,
he were nice. He was nice. I'm not gonna see
him like I talked. I talked, I talked Cray, I
talked cash Ship. But one thing i'mnna do, boy, when
it comes to defense, I'm gonna get that with it.
Give him his credit. And every time I see him,
I give nis fly. That year he had a year. Man,
Oh Joe, everybody got it. Joe that two thousand and
(01:04:32):
nine seasons Joe, that was. That was an historic run
that will never be repeated, never be Every week he
traveled with number one. I don't care a coach, I
got it, don't even worry about this. And nobody, nobody
will getting a hunted a hunted, shut down, shut down everybody. Johnson,
(01:04:53):
Steve Smith, Andre john nobody got over with fifty boy.
There's one person. There's one person who can sit was
able to give reason that give reeves that business and
give him problems. And that was Stevie Johnson. Stevie Johnson, Yeah,
played played in Buffalo. He Joe. Stevie was about six
fold and moved like he was five ft tall.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I mean as far his ladder movement and is quick.
You had to be quick to give him problems. You
couldn't be a big receiver and be physical with him
because his hands. Then you had to be quick. You
had to be twitchy. Yeah, if you weren't twitchy, you
you got You had hell on your hands.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
If you weren't twitchy,
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