BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 2 Part 2: Bears are LEGIT?!+ Tyrone Tracy Jr. Joins the show

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break #1 overall pick, Cam Ward's preseason so far, the Chicago Bears looking like contenders and Giants RB, Tyrone Tracy Jr. joins the show! Plus, much more!

0:00 - Takeaways from Cam Ward's preseason

9:46- Bears legit contenders?

25:19 -  Bengals vs Commanders Recap

30:27 - Tyrone Tracy Jr. Joins the show 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Beat the Falcons twenty three twenty cam Ward finishes two
of seven for forty two yards. Should have had one
more completion, should have been three or seven at the
bare minimum, O Joe. But uh, what what did what
from what you saw? What did you like about what
you saw from cam Ward?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I mean, listen a continuation what he did the first
prese in the game. Obviously it was only two for seven,
but there was a drop van Jefson on that over
route that he should have had.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
That was that was a beautiful throw.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I seen a lot of seen a lot of people
in the comments when I mentioned the throw being that
it was overthrown and what are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's that's a ball receiver.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, that's that's a very catch umple ball. And it
was it was a dime.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Outside of that, a few drops, yeah, a few drops.
Other than that, it was good.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
It was good.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
People would look at.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
The stat line and say it doesn't look the same
as opposed to how he did in the first game.
But still he was the same calm, poise and control
everything and and he made good decisions with the ball.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, I agree. I agree with you, O Jo.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
My thing what I'm watching is his his his poison,
patience in the pocket, him not getting rattled, and he
making the right reads Ojo. That's I think that's the
biggest key, you know. I sit back and watch these
young guys coming to this league, this grown man league, uh,
just to see how they adapt and how they are
in the pocket, whether it's you know, cam Ward us
should do. I enjoy watching those guys play man. They

(01:23):
look like they look like they're in for a pretty
good season.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, but I will say to On and Joe, we
have to be cautious about is it is preseason. These
defenses are very very vanilla, and the quarterbacks haven't got
hit yet.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I know they look polished, you know, based on what
we've seen you so far.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
But when you get hit upside the head a few times,
you get to get a little bit, will they still
be able to have that same car onals, that same relaxance,
that same poise under pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
When you've been hit a.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Sack a couple of times, you can play fast, but
not in the hurry. M I think the thing is
is that you have more time than you think, and
a lot of times when rookies come in, they speed,
They speed themselves up and it's normally their second year.
Joe and Ojo. You heard people say this all the time.
All of a sudden, the game slowed down for me. Yeah,
and that's what you want to have happened. You want

(02:13):
the game to slow down. You don't want the game
to speed you up absolutely fast, but don't play in
a hurry. I like him, warrish. I agree with you, Joe.
I like his pois. I thought it was very deliberate.
Yet he had some very unfortunate situation where the guy
dropped the ball. A professional wide receiver got to make
that catch. Now, if you're in high school, you don't
make that catch. Okay, fine, well you ad But as

(02:35):
a professional, a guy that's getting paid to the football,
those are the type that's what you're paid for. Yeah,
that's what you're paying for. You you paid, you know,
to make to make the difficult with I mean, hey,
you're gonna make the routine. You got to make enough
of the routine ones. But every once in a while,
you got to come down with you know, you gotta
you gotta help your quarterback out. He's not gonna always
be able to hitch you between the numbers. And so

(02:57):
now this is your opportunity to help him out. But
I liked what I saw from cam Ward. I really did. Uh,
Atlantic fell behind. But then you know Austin Eastern Eastern stick.
Uh he came in, Uh and throw the ball. Because
you know Pennick Junior didn't play at all. That's that's
the only thing to hold you. I was like, damn,
then let these guys play at all. Yeah, oh, Joe,

(03:20):
I couldn't even imagine. Could you imagine standing on the
sideline the first second preseason game out, Joe, and not
even dressed out?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Hey, you know you know how I am. You've heard
enough stories about how it was. I'm practicing.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm excuse me not practicing. I'm playing in the preseason.
I don't care. I do not care, Joe. I had
I had my coach every preseason game. I forced coach
Lewis and called timeouts in the preseason Joe, just to
get me out the game.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Man. I need I need these reps. I need to
get acclimated to game speed, game speed.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
If you could pratice a hundred time, Joe, we could
practice a hundred times. With life, it's different now. I
wanted my body. I wanted my body to get.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
A customer that as fast as possible before we one
came along.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Go ahead, Joe, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
And I think a lot of the guys, especially the
top guys that don't really play a lot in the preseason, Okay,
is it because they take all the reps and snaps
in practice and they don't want to hold them into
the game.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
We don't. Uh, We normally, we normally break it down, Joe.
We normally have fifty to sixty plays practice is scripted,
and of those ten plays, so we go. I don't
know how y'all did, but we did ten plays. The starters.
The starters would probably take six to seven of those snaps. Now,
maybe there's a maybe, maybe a repeat. Something didn't go well,

(04:42):
and Mike will say, Okay, I want to see that
again with the starters. But you're gonna take at least
seven of the starters. Is gonna take at least at
bare minimum seven of those reps, and then the other
three will get divided up in okay, five, But so
you're gonna get the lion's share of the rep. The
reason why is different, O shoes, because you gotta realize

(05:02):
come game time, your paths are take down. Now they
feel tighter. A lot of guys got all their paths
in their pants, They're gonna feel tighter. So I needed
to get a customer that because in practice, ain't nobody
taking no jerseys right now. We taking our jerseys. I mean,
come game time, we take them face tight. Yeah, tight tight,

(05:24):
and go ahead. And y'all know, y'all know the fans
they ready to see it. I wanted to see.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Pennis get out there a little bit and spend it,
you know, at least full quarter uncan Ocho. But uh,
you know, I know he got some high power weapons.
He's talked a lot, you know, in this past week
about how high power they are offensively and what he
expects out of that falcon's core with that wide receiver
quarter that he has. And uh, I think a lot
is going to determine on on how quick he can
pick up on things and uh, how how soon can

(05:52):
he adapt to being like one of the top quarterbacks
in his league. All I know is this, if I'm
going big game hunting, Yeah, the first time I fired
my weapon, ain't gonna want to see that big game.
I'm gonna get some shots offered Yeah, I know y'all
don't hunt, so I excuse you, but I'm just trying
to give you an analogy.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
You understand what I'm saying. If I'm going big game hunting,
the first time I fired that shot is not gonna
see when I'm looking at something, I'm gonna make sure
this thing is capable of firing right in case you
have to make some adjustments exactly exactly maybe maybe my aim,

(06:32):
maybe maybe maybe there's some adjustments that I need to make.
But I'm not going into the game without having seen
these guys do something. And the O t as and
and and many caps and training cap and joint practices,
all that's fine, and good man, that ain't the game.

(06:53):
Even joint practices are different than the actual game. Your
mindset is different than the actual game, absolutely, and so
that's and like I said, I think my last year,
Mike say, hey, you're not going, but I want you
to come in get some work. So I came in,
got my fifteen twenty one tens. He said, hey, just

(07:14):
warm up, Hey, get your good workout in. And that's
it for the even because I want to take a
look at these other guys and see what I got
I already know what I got what you eighty for? Okay? Cool?
But oh Joe, I had them play three games. Hell,
I played the first game to said game to third game.
So what the hell is he looking for in the
fourth game that I haven't done in the first three
that he needed to see in game in game four?

(07:34):
So I get that, But these guys don't show, they start,
they don't play game one, they don't play game two.
I'm like, if some of them don't play at all.
But the preseason is a lot shorter nowadays.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Right, Yeah, it's only three games game, and even in
the NBA it's a lot shorter. We used to play
at least ten games, so I think it's a lot shorter,
like five or six games now.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
So yeah, man, these these these guys wait, man, and
the rhythm in tirement, O Joe. You can't substitute that, bro,
You can't substitute them game reps, man, you can't substitute that.
You can go, you can go and practice and run
as many drills as you want and just don't it
don't add up, no, no, sir.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, But that's that's that's the difference now, O Joe.
That's not what we have, O Joe. We might have
been able to get a cup squeeze a couple of
more years, O Joe, I chose here the preseason. It
was like this, Hey, I played fourteen years. I played
in the preseason every year at least three to four games. Yead,

(08:40):
Oh Joe about your bull driving. That's two seasons.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Hey, I could have gotten sixteen.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, I was good. I was I was good. But uh,
I like what I saw with km Ward. I think
he's gonna be fine as long as they can protect him.
I like the receivers, but it gonna you know, sometimes
you gotta make tough catches for your quarterback. Sometimes you
got to help him out. You ask you ask the
quarterback to help you out, like I would always say, John,

(09:07):
just just protect me. I'm gonna make an attempt, even
when I'm going over the middle. Give me an opportunity
because I want to take the shot in my back,
not in my face, because the worst come to worst,
O Jo. I'm gonna jump like this here over the
middle and shot in the back. I ain't really try
to do this like this here and shot.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, definitely, So I'll take the shot at the back.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Joe, I ain't tried to get that face on, kind
of like what you remember when and Kwan Bolden got hit. Yeah,
remember that that shot. He took it out and if
he came back. You don't want that shot in the face.
You want that shot in the back. So I always
tell your quarterback to protect you, o Jo. The Bears
beat the Bills thirty eight nothing. Today is the first

(09:50):
time the Bears fan can see what Caleb Williams can
do in Ben Johnson's offense. The opening drive, Williams leeddy.
On a seventh play, ninety two yard drive, william completed
five or six ninety seven yards. Thirty six of those
yards came with a touchdown pass to Olamadade as a kiss. Yeah. Man,

(10:14):
I know it's the preseason on Joe, and I don't
want to get to I don't I don't want to.
I don't want to get too far in front of this.
But the Bears look good, Wamas.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I just getting ready to say that, would get ready
to say the same thing. Listen, I know I know what
Caleb william could do. I've seen I've seen I've seen
him at USC, I've seen flash of him last year
without someone like Ben Johnson at the helm to help
him develop without Ben Johnson's creativity from my offrom the standpoint,
understanding what he can do and help Caleb get to
that next level at the quarterback position. I want to
talk about that God damn Luther Burden, That god damned

(10:46):
Luthor Burden will look good.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That god damn rookie at receiver. Bruh Lose.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I've never met you before, but you look good tonight.
Obviously in the preseason people say, oh it's preseason, don't
get too high, don't get too low. Just but you
look good.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I've been watching. I've been watching the past two weeks.
This week, I mean, it doesn't matter who's throwing the ball.
I'm not sure why he's running with the twos and
the three.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
What mean so he's gonna play in front of Roman
dudes A and and and DJ more.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
No, obviously, I mean three receivers the spot.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Oh that's a a.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
They got some decisions to make over that offensively because he.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Looked maybe when they go five wives and you saw
they read a lot of tight ends set. They had Loveland,
they had co Comet. Now he is a multiple set.
He is a he'll run a lot of different sets.
He'll go too tight, he'll go three wives, he'll go
five wides, he'll go you know, empty with his backs out.
But this offense looked really I thought overall, I thought

(11:47):
they played well. I thought the defense got after the bills.
I thought the offense moved the ball. Whether it was
wims of Bajette again, I guess that's how you say
his name. He came in with thirteen or twenty two
for one ninety six and a touchdown. I thought Williams
were unbelievable to open and drive to go ninety two
yards on five or six pension. He had one hundred
and seven yards. They had over five hundred yards of offense.

(12:07):
And like I said, I don't want to get too
far in front of myself, but they look good, right right,
But they did look good and they're gonna be a
lot better because they have a guy that has an
offensive mind. Because you got a quarterback and you need
somebody that's imaginative, that has an imagination to put him
in position and say, hey, son, I want you to
be you. I'm gonna put you in the best position possible.

(12:30):
The offensive line is much improved. The offensive line is
much improved. The Bears look good, and Chad, y'all. Look,
I know it's preseason. It's only the second game of preseason,
and I really don't want to, like get a speed ticket,
but let's just say I'm going for it in the
thirty five. I ain't going fifty five sixty, but I'm

(12:53):
going I'm a little over the speed limit. I'm liking
what I'm seeing from the Bears.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, and I'm gonna say this again.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think I said it on either last Night show
or maybe I said this sometime last week. The same
teams that are always in contention are going to be
in contention this year. Chat, I'm going out on the limb.
I'm gonna say it before the season even gets here.
The two teams that I think are the dark horses
to surprise everybody and make a run and having a
playoff appearance, the Chicago Bears and the Carolina Panthers. I'm

(13:25):
telling you people.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Might people might in the chat, you might last, but.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Say, yeah, right, whatever whatever I'm telling you, watch and
when it happens, don't don't call don't call me.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Ultra damas.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I just know, I just I just understand how things
are going to play out. I'm excited. I'm excited for
the football season. Man, like you don't understand.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, it's right round the corner. It's right, it's right
around the corner. Well, uh, what September fourth?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
So yeah, Thursday night, Dallas and Dallas.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
So we'll about three weeks away. Listen, Well we're two
weeks from We're two weeks from Thursday, right, So week
from Thursday.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Okay, that's not matter. What the hell we supposed to
do in between that time.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
We'll find something to talk about. We talked about you
scored zero points in a Big three celerity. That's a
whole that's a whole show by itself.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I mean it is a whole show by itself. I
can see if I scored zero and be lost. But
the point of a.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Team game, First of all, you can't score zero.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean you can score whatever you want it you had.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Zero, and if you scored, that mean you put something
on the board. I ain't scored no touchdown.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You understanding I was listen, Listen there there there are
so many other aspects to my game outside of just scoring.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Because we already had two prolific scores. On the court.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
So what did I do my defensive presence? Hey, I was,
I was like this, I'm they couldn't even they couldn't
even get by me. And then I had him messing up.
Turn the ball over.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
You should have saw me, you should turn it over.
He did thirteen old, I may get They turned over
twice through turn the ball over twice. They're playing defense.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
And they tried to pick, and I squeezed right through
the pick like Michael Jackson, went right through the pick.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Ah. No, no, no, no, sir, I got skinny real quick.
I got skinny real quick.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now you falled over the screen.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, no, I ain't. I ain't.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I ain't even fall through it.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I went both. Yeah, I went right through it. I
got skinny.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
So we working.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, man, listen, man, listen. So many other aspects of
the game was on point where I didn't even need
to be a score.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's how great I am, right, That's how great I am.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I think I think in watching the Bears, I think
Ibra Fleus and his system or whomever he had coaching.
Caleb Williams, this is the best. This is the best
we've seen the Bears offense. Look Chicago scored zero touchdowns
on his open the possessions last year. So in seventeen
games they had zero touchdown on over the possession. And
like I said, I understand this is a preseason game.

(15:57):
They had the most drives ending in punts. They were
dead last in total offense. So look, you can't go nowhere.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
But.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
The Bears were dead lasting total offense last year.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yes, thirty two.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I liked them to finish in the top ten.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I like them.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I like them to finish in the top ten with
all limb goddamn weapons.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
They got some weapons they had too, I mean, forty
three carries. And the thing is that I like about
him that he he here running in he'll throw it.
They had thirty nine pass attempts. They had forty three
rush attempts. First of all, that's a lot of that's
a lot of damn plays, even for a preseason. Yeah,
let's get that out of the way.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
But it's the bill.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's the Bill's fault. It's the Bill's fault. Too many
goddamn three and outs.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
You're biscy, Mike White, mm hmm. Frank gor Jr. Looked good.
He had had a fumble, but he he reminds you of.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, you gotta have that thing higher, especially when that.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Truck, you know, see if coming. He saw the guy
from the side and that got just.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
But but the peanut.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
And they're in a tough division. That is a very
tough division that the Bears a end. You got green Bay,
you got Detroit, you got Minnesota. So you gotta get better.
You don't, You don't have no choice.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
One thing you have to get better on is putting
score because every other, every other, every other team you
just name, they're gonna they're putting up points.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
And I'm not talking about field.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
But it's gonna be interesting to see what Detroit is
without Ben Johnson.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, hey, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
You got to understand even with without Ben Johnson there
the same players are still So I think even with
the creativity, regardless if the creativity isn't there, the players.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Are the call.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
They still have players that can go get it.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Jameson Wilson, Jameson Williams, Williams, God, I'm talking so fast,
So down, O Joe, so down, Jamo, go get it,
Aman Ross Brown can go get it. Jamiir you know what,
you know what you get from David Montgomery and jamiir Yeah,
because I mean, I think, regardless who's calling the players,
the play calling job is that easy because of the

(18:21):
elite talent at his disposal to be able to use.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Well, if it was that easy, so why wasn't Chicago
any better than what they were? If all it was
about the players, because they got the same players. Whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
There's no Aman Ross Brown.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
But you said you we said they looked good. Do
we not say the Bears look good? Now? What play
was player that we said look good? That wasn't there
last year? You told me it's the players. It doesn't
matter who the play caller is. So it shouldn't matter
that ebn Flus was there or whomever the play caller was.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh, I'm listening. I'm speaking specifically on personnel.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And Caleb Willis was he not a quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Let's let's please No, No, I understanding what you said.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I'm going back. I tell you.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Who has the better players, And I mean no disrespected
what the Bears have. I'm just saying, take the Bears
out its levels.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I give you another example. What happened to the Eagles
when they lost both of their coordinators after going to
the Super Bowl, they had the same players. Jalen Hurst
was there. A J. Brown was there, Devonte Smith was there.
What happened the next season? Did they look the same?

(19:43):
He's not a true question. Hold on, I know it's
not a true question, but I'm okay, we'll go ahead.
Trying to think when they went to the Super Bowl
they lost, they lost both coordinators, the offensive coordinator and
the defensive coordinators. The same players were there? Did they?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Wait, hey, is that is that the Is that the
year where the defense couldn't tackle? The goddamn couldn't tackle?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
The soul said it didn't matter. Yeah, I think I
ain't wait, you're gonna put me there.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Take it to the point, because the Eagles problem was
their defense. They weren't tackling.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
What about the offense?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
And hey, to that, to that point, it looked like
they was doing no goddamn purpose.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
What about the offense? How the offense? Look? That was
all right? It was all right. Jalen Hurds had more
turnover in the first half of the season than he
had the entire season the year before. But you say
they looked the same.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
No, but wait, hold on, hold who whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa. You can't you can't blame the offensive wards
on the individual.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm asking, did their office look the same as the
offense that went to the Super Bowl? Did their defense
looked the same as the defense that led them to
the Super Bowl? That's all I'm asking.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
No, But but listen, list I tell you what, I
tell you what. I love the points you're trying to make.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
But I know the makeup of the Detroit Lions offense
that they're still going to look to part regardless of
whether Ben Johnson is there or not, because.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Of what they my defense. They lost a G two though,
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
They still got Brian Branch. They still got uh Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah,
he's back. It's one is they got one more.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Dog over there? Donold, youre talking about carry Joe, Yes.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
The safety carry Joseph. Hell, he had what interceptions? Terry
and Donold?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
He gotta do he gotta, he gotta, he gotta keep
his hands to himself.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Why would that to get ready to say he just
had Yeah, that that's it, that's it. They're gonna be
right on both sides of the ball. I know, think
they gonna put some point.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's always sometimes you have a like it takes you
sometimes it takes a team of year to adjust without
because Ben has been there so long. I mean he's
been there with what four or five years. I mean,
that's the only that's the only person that Jerry Golf
has had in his ear since he's been in Detroit
a g He's been to d C for what three
years there? So it's it's good, It's very good. They're

(22:15):
an extremely talented ball club. They're one of the they're
one of the They're one of the favorites along with
the Eagles, Uh, the Eagles Detroit, the Packers or the Niners.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
You know, Tampa, Hey, hold on, I got a question.
You just hid the Niners. You think the nine is
still gonna look the same?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
They got Robert, They got Robert, They got Robert solid
dee Bo didn't give him anything last year. Ojoe, he
didn't give him anything last years. The thing they also get,
let's just say they get a healthy Christian McCaffrey back.
Oh now, it's gonna be interesting to see how healthy

(23:02):
Brandon our Yuk is and how soon because sometimes, Oh Joe,
it's the year after the it's the following year, not
the not the season right after the surgery, it's the
year after, right, So we'll see how soon. But you
know they they still got an outstanding offensive line. Uh
uh uh, big Trent, Let's see how healthy he is?

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Can he get back to being Trent Williams Kittle is
still a top tight end in the league. Uh. Now,
they did lose lose some guys, Drake Greenlawward, they lost
some guys U A Fanger, They've they've lost some guys
on the defensive side, but Robert Salid is back. That
defense wasn't the same.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Hey, did they ever fix.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Receiver?

Speaker 3 (23:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I haven't heard anything. I haven't heard anything else about it.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
He's nice for the for the work he put in
and then stepping up when you going down and when
Debo was hurt and he made some really good plays
and made sure they didn't miss a beat offensively.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I hope he wore him before the season starts.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, it's kind of out your kind of like the
situation that Cam Hayward is in, because remember they tore
Cam Hayward game a two year deal and then you
know he played well and said, well, I can't see
myself playing on this number because because other guys he
saw other defensive players get pay raises, get their money.

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Sometimes the worst thing you can do is base your
worth on what somebody else got it gets like that.
I don't know they used to do it. I don't
know if they still did it when when you were there,
you remember they used to pass the thing right to
shoot around all the receivers. They had all the highest
paid because you were receivers, so you saw what everybody

(24:58):
else made you like. Plus you got all the guys
on your own team, plus every receiver. What they're making.
Oh man, man, that thing come out there. Hey, I
get that thing. I'll be looking at somebody like you
make that and you giving us that?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
About about? How about them boys the night?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
But y'all defense steal some trash.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, now, let's let's let's
let's not do that. Let's not do that. Now. We
look we look very bad. On the first two drive
that the Commanders had.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
The ball, they took their starts out, but we looked better.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
We looked better from that point on. Let's be optimistic.
Let's be optimistic.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
About the situation.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
Did you see how did you see how they ran
down the field? O? Yo, yeah, I can tell you
who blew the sigmon. I can tell you Simon the
mic backer straight over the top underneath you knowing you
can't get that underneath and.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Shoot the gap to pull the ray Lewis older?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
What are we doing? And they did it twice.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
He did it twice, and the guy bound right outside
and he gone.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
We had a conversation last night. I said, oh yo,
I want to see their backs and it'll give us
a better understanding why Brian Robinson Jr. Is on the
trade block. Well, we see why he's on the trade block.
We saw those two backs from Washington. Now it makes it.
I don't know how much you can speak for yourself,
but it makes a lot of a ton of sense
to me.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
It does make sense. But obviously Brian Robinson, we've seen
what he can do. And I just saw some reporters
obviously doing my little homework, talking about he runs a
little bit timid.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Not hitting the hole and just stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'm not sure if the injury history is probably a
cause of that, but obviously they like the young Bulls,
especially Bill.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
He doesn't want to be called Jacob. His name is Bill, Bill,
Bill hold On.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah. No, the other one, the other one, oh coskey,
because what's his full name? The one that Jay that
Jane Daniels got the ball back for.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, yes, sir, yes right. See say you want to
be called Bill, I'm.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
A call him Bill, Okay, Yeah, I mean thirty rusher
temps Oho for one hundred and eighty five yards and
two touchdowns. I mean you look at it, the two
top guys, seventeen rushers between the two of them for
one hundred and eight yards, and y'all gotta look, Lovu.
Everybody in the stadium, everybody at home knew the Bengals

(27:31):
were not gonna snap that ball at the thirty eight
yard line on fourth and three except you. Yeah, and
you jumped off side. Everybody nobody when they start doing
all that motion, when they bring the guy outside, they
bring him to the backfield, then they spend him out there.
They're not running no play, bro, They're trying to get
you to jump off sides, and you did it. Yeah.

(27:54):
I get Ojo, We get Newing the Eagles last year,
remember on the gold line and he jumped outside like
five times, four or five times in a row, and
the officials say that, you know, if you keep doing this,
we're just gonna award them to score. I get okay, fine,
they're gonna touch fush, They're gonna score anyway. But in
a situation like this, these kind of players to get

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your beat. Yeah, guess what. Guess what happened, O Joe?
Didn't they go right down the field score touchdown?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yes we did, Yes, we did.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I want to talk about how good offense look except
that second series, the second that second series with Joe
Burrow and the and the number twos.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why he did that, Joe, Joe,
No better.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
You pull back all all the running and scram in that.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, throw that bag away, Joe, because you don't want
to take any unnecessary here punishment. Yeah, and then he
got bailed out again because o'brown got beat and why
just happened to horse call him. They're gonna have to
do a better job of protecting Joe. But O Joe,
your offense has to look good because that's where all
your money is. So wherever your money is, that's the

(28:54):
side of the that's the side of the football. You're
really gonna have to win on most definitely, most definitely.
I mean, and Lebron goes when we played in the
nineties TV myself, John sim Rod, Yeah, so that's where
the money was. So that's where we had to be.
That's where we that's where we had to be. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, I thought your offense, you know, Joe was I mean,
Joe was what nine of fourteen sixty two yards? Jake
Brownie came in, But Jake Browning, you know, he plays
well when with asking given the opportunity. Oh, Joe, he
plays well. Sixteen to twenty five, two touchdowns. Densimon Rider
came in there through one pass, he was won on
one for seven yards. But and they were going down

(29:37):
the field again, and then Josh Johnson threw a horble interception.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, oh oh Josh, Well that's my dog there, man.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
Good to see Josh. Good to see Josh still like
that man working and working and working.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah yeah, hey he, I mean, hey, he he don't
collect he collected his own jerseys. Hey, he ain't got
no other player. He ain't got no other player jersey
know you trade, Hey, I just collect my own. He
got by fourteen.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Mm hmm, I think he's uh, he's been on sixteen
to the thirty two team, sixteen.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
To the thirty two damn yeah, oh yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
So hey, So if he ever wore to coach, he
knows somebody somebody somewhere.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Absolutely absolutely, And listen when you when you played, when
you played that long at that position, they will definitely
give you a job.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
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(30:48):
he ran one hundred and ninety two times eight hundred
and thirty nine yards five tds and he's back. Tyrone
Tracy Julior. What's up, bro?

Speaker 3 (30:59):
What's good man doing?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Man? That sound great? Man? How are you good? Good?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I'm gonna call you T T. I'm gonna call you
T T because I feel like that man.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
You want to be called T T.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
T T trace You know T TJ. You know you man,
don't don't call me Tracy. Don't call me Tracy.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So I have a question.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
First off, My first question is how are training camp
going so far? How your legs holding up?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
And have you get that yet? Have you hit that
training camp all yet?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I mean I ain't annot to day. They've been taking
care of us, to be honest, like he's been. He's
been doing a good job making sure that like you know,
we putting it in work. But then also like you know,
giving us a bowling, you know, here and there, making
sure you know, uh, you know, off days, we're taking
care of you know, the recovery aspect of everything.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
But I'm good, you know, camp being good.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Everything been good. The vibes in the locker room is high. Uh,
got new faces in the locker room, so everything been smooth.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, So hold on, hold on, I'm feeling good at night.
But I'm from to talk. But listen, I got I
got one question.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Your rookie season season five tests down nine hundred some
yards on whatever however many carriages it was. I know
you set goals for yourself, you have goals, but obviously
as players going into a seat, you have personal goals
as well. What will your goals be if it's okay
with you sharing it with us tonight, Yeah, some goals
for this season.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Yeah, I mean to be honest with you. So my
my personal goals as first and foremost, you gotta win.
I feel like if you don't win, nothing else matters. So,
but obviously I want to do way better than I
did last year. Last year was really just you know,
obviously my first year in the league, Welcome to the league,
all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
But now I feel more confident.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
I feel like, you know, I got the energy behind me,
but I also got you know, the trust behind me
as well from the coaching staff and my teammates to
go out there and play well.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I want, you know, fifteen hundred yards. I want ten
touts and like I won't. I want to be, you know,
one of the running backs that people talk about, Like,
this is stuff I pray for. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
I feel like for me to say it in front
of you guys, been also like you know, saying to
myself each and every day.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know, that's something that you need to say, you know,
the power of life and death.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Love in the tongue so I got to continue to
speak life to my situation for each and every person
I'm around.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's that's how
that's how I'm that's how I'm moving right now.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Speaking into existence. We were you and I. We're just
talking about uh practice fights when you have you know, scrimmages,
joint joint practice, scrimmager. You know, there's a little skuff
for yesterday. What what what?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
What popped out with you and Will McDonald.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
They don't really pop off, man, y'all y'all been there,
y'all been there. I can't get you know, it's hot competition,
you know, it's the best against the best.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
You you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I had a good little run. He was just finishing
the play and my office in line didn't like that, right,
you know what I'm saying. So that's that's really what happened.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
He threw me to the ground office and line didn't
like they had my back. Yeah, it really wasn't nothing.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
It was nothing. Crazy, man.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
You know, we seen worse. You know, y'all probably see
for two.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, let me ask you this, Brian Blake, because oh,
you're and I was just talking. Okay, when you have
a joint practice, Okay, coach, you go Overlook, nine on
seven is gonna be solid thuds. We're not taking anybody
to the ground. They're gonna be some thud going on.
Okay in seven A and and team, they're not gonna
take you to the ground, but it's gonna be some collisions,

(34:26):
so just expect it. So you go in with the mindset, Okay,
this is what it's gonna be, x Y and Z.
I'm good with it. I'm prepared. It's when you do
something extra. It's what because your coach had a conversation
with our coach, this is what they agreed to. Now
when you step outside of that coach, I got to
check you.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh yeah, that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
To be honest with you. Yeah, they told me.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Like the coach Daves came to me personally.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
He was like, yo, like we we know it's tag off,
but just be prepared in between the tackle box.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, the to hit you.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
So I'm like, okay, okay, cool, Like you know, I'm
cool with that.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Like in between talk about you know, that's ten yards
you know what I'm saying they gonna hit you.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Cool, but this happened.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
You know, I'm about to go score fifteen yards down
the line of scrimming, like running. So that's really why,
you know, the scuffling started, just because like that was
that wasn't the rules. The rules is in between a
line of scrimmage boom, you get fifteen yards you can hit.
But other than that, like you know, let me finish

(35:29):
my run because I'm just trying to do my job,
you know what I'm saying, finish off a run.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
But you know, like I said, man, we just people
have my bag and they didn't like that.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, that's dope. Hey Jackson Jackson Dark, Yeah, I knew
you was going there.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, y'all was gonna go there.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But I knew one of y'all was gonna go there.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Listen, listen, I'm asking My question is is Milik Neighbors
having a very very very very good year last year?
And I'm you him and Elite Nabors, Milik Neighbors has
the talent to be in the top five common saytion
we talk about receivers, you know in the NFL. Yeah,
how is Jackson Dart looking so far as far as
being able to understand the offense, being in command of

(36:09):
the offense, and understanding like this is the chance that
I can be the future for the next decade for
this team.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Did you did you watch that last game?

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
As a matter of fact, there were three quarterbacks that
looked really good because we didn't know what we're gonna
get from.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Jackson Dart was one of them. The other George Sanders,
and there was one more.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Them played all started, he kicked it off, the jamis
then dark, and then the other guy finished it up.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, but the size we thought we saw from Jackson Dart,
they looked good.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
He looked he looked very good, very calm most of
the time.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Most of the time rookie quarterbacks when that pressure, those
lights are on, they get happy feet.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
They rattled, you know, their technique is like h they
just they rushed the ball. But he looked really good. Nah,
he did.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
I mean, to be honest with you, ain't really nothing crazy.
You know he did out there. He do that stuff
every day in practice. To be honest with you, like,
that's that's just how all the good.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Players that you're around, the great players you're around.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
They all do that stuff every single day, so it's
not like a surprise when they do it on Sundays
or Saturdays or whatever.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
So like, yeah, I mean, I feel like he's.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Gonna he has the potential to be a really good quarterback,
right that he's taking everything to his his his game
to another level, to be honest. When he first got there,
obviously it's a lot of information going in. But now,
like you can see that he's he's settled down, like
and yeah, yeah, oh yeah, he died in now like

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you can see some of that college Jackson dark come
out of him because of how calm and relax he
is in the game, and like he's just out there
hooping now he ain't.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
He ain't thinking, He's just out there playing. That's that's
the funny thing.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
When you get to a point, regardless of what position
you play, even running back, especially the quarterback position, because
you have some your plate and at the table coming
to the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
But when you know everything and what everybody's.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Doing around you and you're comfortable, and you add comfortability
with confidence, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
It's a done deal.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
The game starts to slow down to you when the
game starts to slow down to you, you start to
look like some of the better quarterbacks in NFL that
do it consistently, which is key week the week. I
got one more question before you go. I'm feeling good man.
I got questions for y'all too. Please tell me what
is it like to be around Jamis crazy ass Winston
in the locker room?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I just need one good Jameis Winston's story.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Please.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Hey, he's funny man.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Have y'all been around him?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, for short spurts in New Orleans, you know, but
I wouldn't but every day, No, that would be a joy.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
I ain't gonna lit like what y'all see online and
on Instagram and all these clips y'all see really like that,
Like I promise you.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I promise you, like I have a million stories, like
I'm wonly known it man for.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
About five months now, right right? He does crazy stuff
every day, like every day like he does something crazy,
Like I'll tell you this one story. We had a
UFC fighter come to our practice and she gave him
some gloves like signed them and everything.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
James comes in a locker room and starts.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Like doing UFC like kicks and fights with the gloves on,
like he's really trying to fight people.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
In the locker room, Like yeah, showing us out his
kicks and everything, like I promise you.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Like he is like I thought I was an outgoing
person until I met him, Like he's like literally one
of one, Like he's a great, great person, Like he's
a very down to earth guy.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah cool, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, that's kind of where I was going because I
wanted to know the difference between the personality between Russ
and because if you look at him, the personalities are
very very different, but they're both very religious men, seemed
to be very approached their business, go about the work,
ask in hand and get the job done. What would
you say was it would be the biggest differences between

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Russ's personality and Jamis's personality.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
M hmm, that's a good question. I would probably say
Jamis goes about his business more.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Fluid.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
I guess you could say Russ it's more like not
really strict, but he just has a certain way of
doing things right. James is more like goofy, like he
is business, but like he also understands.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
That, like you know, you have to have fun while
doing it.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
You have to have fun while doing it, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Don't get me wrong, Russ has fun, but like Russ
is like on a certain path, like he does stuff
a certain way, and like I don't know how he's
he's not strict. He's not strict, but does he expects
things to look a certain way?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Very disciplined.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yes, if I was, if I was given analogy, uh,
in comparison to to the two, it's like watching Fresh
Prince and watching Will Smith and watching Carlton. Yes, yeah,
that's I see Russell Wilson as Carlton in a sense,
very serious, very business oriented. You know, he can have
fun when necessary. And I see Jameis Winston's at Will Smith,

(41:16):
and the character compareson to the two.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yeah, don't get me wrong. They both are cool, like
regardless of the situation. But like I said, James is
more goofy, like he's there to like he's always gonna
make you laugh, make you feel good, like even when
things are like very tense, he cracks a joke so
like you feel good. Yeah, he breaks the eyes so
like no one you know feel like you know the

(41:39):
coach is getting after you or whatever. Like he makes
sure that, like you understand that, Like at the end
of the day, coaches are gonna get after you, but
you got to move on, like the next play is
coming up, so to continue to move on. And Russ
is the same way. Like Russe is very like I said,
he's strict, but he has a certain way of doing things,
very disciplined, like first one in, last one out, Like

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every single day he has his routine of what he
does and that's just who rust is And if you've
been around him, he handles himself like.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Professional like every single day.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
So yeah, they're both very good leader like you said,
very both very religious man like. I really can't say
enough good things about each of them.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, you guys finished dead last in red zone touchdown percentage.
You scored the second fewest points in the red zone.
Ain't that little? That a little harsh?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I mean, dang got you guys finished last and red.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Zone well y'all, y'all finished second worst and points scored,
so that I mean you you dead last the other
one you make sure but okay, when you come back
on next year, what are you going to do different
to make sure you're not in the same spot again?

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Man to be honest with you, when we get down there,
we gotta score. Three points is not enough and get
your beat in this league, three points ain't enough. We
gotta score touzz And I think that really starts with
the old line obviously protecting the quarterback. Quarterback, you gotta
do your job, make better decisions. Get the ball to
your playmakers, running back, receivers, tight ends.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Get ball.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Get them the ball like that, I think. I think
that's the easiest thing in the game. Get the ball
to your playmaker, let them go to work. And when
your playmakers go to work, it makes the whole game easy.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Where you come in at I can't hear you mentioned T.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Say run the ball, okay, we gonna run the ball?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Okay. Well, so you.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Got to put yourself in that description as a playmaker
because you know what you could be.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Hell, you could be the goddamn security blanket. You could be.
You want to be one of the better running backs
in the league.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Right, So you want to know when the game plan
they come into a game, Well, god damn, we gotta
worry about two people.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
We gotta worry about Malik neighbors. Oh, we gotta worry
about t T.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You come in defenses, you in the backfield, first or
second down, all right, we gotta drop the safety down
in the goddamn box.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
They can't do that though they try to save down.
We're gonna throw it over top. Boom boom. So if
Malik going off, boom, now we got Now we got
to go too high. Yeah, it's time to work.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
You got to run them out of that too high exactly.
But that's what I'm saying. Like you're the body of playmakers.
It makes a lot of things easy, espace for offensive coordinator.
We got a lot of good dudes in your locker
room down and they all want to win. Obviously, you
got your personal stuff that you want to do, but
like if you all just want to win, like, it
makes a lot of stuff easy, like because it's it's

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easier when you're winning.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
When you're losing, it's hard, man Like last year. It
was it was hard last year just.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Because like obviously you're losing and we're trying to figure
out why we're losing, and then you know, you got a.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Whole bunch of stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
So it was hard.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
But it's way easy when you when you win, it
it's fun.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
It's fun to be around people, fun of being around coaches,
fun to be in the locker room, everything, so to
be out and about in the city.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, yeah, being able to show especially you're planning.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
You're planning in the biggest market. You playing the biggest
market in the world.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
And when you win it in that market, Oh, the
newspapers are joy to watch. They headlines are joy to read.
When you lose, everything is magnified. You don't want to
show your face. You don't want to deal with the
fans in the market of that magnitude. So man, I'm listen.
I'm hoping. I'm hoping y'all do.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Very very well.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
We will.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Hey, the the vision you guys are in, it ain't
no slap. Oh yeah, no, I ain't no slap. We
ain't no slap either, though, we ain't.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
What I'm talking about that what I'm talking about that? Okay?
Hey have you always have you always been a running back?
Did you play any other position?

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I was gonna say that earlier. Yeah, I was a
receiver my whole career, my whole college career. Really, yeah,
I was.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I turned I turned a switch positions by last year
because of coach c He's a he's at the running
back coach at Purdue. Okay, Yeah, he came in from Miama, Ohio.
He looked at me and he was like, yeah, you're
gonna be a running back. And I know I've known
coach c for like my entire life, Like I know
him since I was like fifteen years old.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
But I wanted to be a receiver.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
I was you know, I was watching I was watching
you Oho, you know what I'm saying, watching watching Yo Fan,
watching Tevon Dustin, Like I was watching all these cats,
you know, go crazy, you know with the cause I
was about what five I was about five ten one eighty.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
You know, I was a slop receiver. And then once
I got to college, I gained some weight.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
He got about two hundred pounds, right, and they was like, yeah,
you gonna be a running back.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
So everything if you look at holder, let me say
it real quick, real quick. You look at everything, like
from all my my stat line, from my measurements. You
know what I'm saying, Like I was an average I
was an average receiver. But then like you switching to
running back, you know, now I'm running you know four
four seven, that's that's a fast running back.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Good hands.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
I can run good routes because I was a receiver,
so that you could get everything that you know, you
compare to the league today.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Now that's that's God. God really made all that happen.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Like, hey, I went through all that, that struggle and
that frustration and irritation, and then next thing, you know,
like all the blessings came out.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
You know, on twenty twenty five, it was it's crazy.
Well listen now that you just said that, boy, you
just you just woke me up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
And I want you to understand the importance of not
only planned receiver at one point, but now playing running back.
You understand that's two things you can do very well
because now you don't got to come out on third down. Yeah,
people have to come out on third down. So that
puts you in the same category. You can get to
this in year two and continue to improve on it.
But Christian McCaffrey, great running back, what else can you

(47:47):
do about the backfield? Catch Ladani and Thomlinson out the
backfield and catch no so that that makes your three
down back and that adds value. You know what happened
to you add value? In another Dydamic to your game
that they can't take away from you.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
It also asked makes money. Hey, okay, stay with me now,
the more you can do.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Well since you since you you were running back official
a nod Now give me your top five running backs
of all.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Time, of all time, all time, all time?

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Okay, herschel Walker, what do you know about big Dog?
Come on now, I actually watch this film. I ain't
gonna I actually watch this.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Film you held in college? Man?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with man.
I ain't gonna some there's some dogs.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Yeah, there's some dogs. You talking about running backs? Emmitt
Smith gotta put him in there?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Is this like? Is this like rankings or you just
like your top five ranking? Ok?

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, it's a pressure.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
L T.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Dan Thompson. Yeah, I love I love his game.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
I love how smooth he was, and I'm gonna play
I'm gonna play Otis Anderson in there only because I've
watched this film personally and I've seen I was I
played for the Giants.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Bob also watched this from personal I like the way
he played.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
He's a big boising back. He put that wind up
on he put that wind.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Up on you Lynchean b.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
You gotta put mother at four and then my last one. Uh,
I'm gonna both both, big bow.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, okay, okay, that's that's a good that's a good six.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I think you about have added one one. I think
you did.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I don't think that was fave. He can't, you know,
he getting old, he can't. I don't know you.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
You had herschel Walker, you had Emmit Smith, Ladani and
Thomlinson what's yeahs and Bo Jackson and Bo Jackson. That's fine,
you're right, man. You just you just named guy. You
just named gud that I saw and you. Yeah, I
was surprised. I thought you would go a little bit

(50:21):
more modern. You man, pol Barry Man. I ain't never
seen somebody leave Barry Sanders off they list.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
So I would gonna put Barry and I put Emmin
in there. But all right, god, that just made me personally,
this is my personal part.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Yeah, that's your mess.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
A matter of fact. You know, you know who my
favorite running backs are, and it's time.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
It's not the favorite. It's not the favorite. And I'm
not talking about all time. I'm talking about running styles.
I like running in general, but I'm like runners that are.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Very smooth with no hrky jerky movements and.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Just they get the ball and they just they just
glide as they run. Arian Foster, Yeah you hey, hey,
what about Marshall Lynch?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
He is he a running back that was a young
man that can't remember damn how you remember your plays?

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I did?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I did say that. I did say that. Say that. Yeah,
I who told you? Who risk producer told you that?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Now?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Hey, hey, oh Joe the running back like the quarterback, Like, oh, okay,
that's the play we running right there on fourteen. Okay
that's me.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Hey, I ain't get my, my, my, my.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Three smoothest running backs of all time based on who
you got running style, running stock, Okay, four.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
I'm gonna go with Eric Diggers the first.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Okay, it's pretty just pretty Arian Foster. Okay you see
Arian Foster run. Yeah, Priest songs, the Priest pre Hong
and a Man Green.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
That's okay, that's a new one.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
The dudes ran so smooth and it's like they was
gliding and like you know, how you see some running
back She's like.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Yeah, strong, they run strong? Yes, dog them?

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Four?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
This name right there? Man was it was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I played I played with Preach one year. His last
year in Baltimore, I played with the priest.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Yeah, man Amon Green too. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
You know that West Coast system, you're downhill m hmm.
In the West Coast system. If you look at the
backs of Arian Foster, he was in the West Coast
SYSTEMA you look at those guys like that. Terrell Davis
is one cut downhill. It ain't a whole hey, ain't
a whole lot of dancing. Yeah, hey, say that for
Friday night when you're at the club, but comes Sunday

(52:33):
when you're on the field, ain't no dancing. Get your
hand downhill right right? Uh So what can we expect
from T T so? You said fifteen hundred ten tubs
Pro Bowl? I mean, hey, ain't a Pro Bowl? Like
a fan vote is fans coaching them? Players got a

(52:57):
fan vote, Like the fans vote count the most. I
think it's fifty percent, and the players and coaches count.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
I just asked, you know, you can get all these
all these accolades and stuff, but like you know, I
feel like that fan vote.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I think once you crack, once you crack it one time,
and especially for you, it'd be much easier because of
the market you play in. You know, the product is
products sells itself based.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
On where you're playing.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
So if you even get close to the numbers that
you're talking about getting as far as your goals for
this season, you would you would definitely make it. And
once you're in most of the time they think, oh
it's a it's a popular vote, regardless of whether.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
The fans pick it or not.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, consistently go if you maintain Yeah the weekend from
a from a from a stat's perspective.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Yeah, oh yeah, okay, okay, but yeah, that's definitely that's
definitely on my on my on my list for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Where can the chat find you? On social media? Where
are you on? Where are you on Eggs? Well, you're
on I g.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
Oh sure own x or Twitter x. It was just
Tyrone Tracy and then on Instagram I am underscore.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
T tj X.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I sure both of y'all Bury, I need y'all to
follow me too.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Hey wait mate, I got one more question too before
you go. How do you feel about your Maden braiding?
And do I need to change anything? I think I
think I think I'm at like a I think I'm
at seventy nine. I think what seventy nine? Yeah, I think,
I think. I'm not I'm not positive. I think in
your your rookie year, you might have been a seventy

(54:35):
nine based on what you did last year. I'm sure, okay,
further than nine.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
So so if it's not higher than a seventy nine,
I need to contact you. What I'm here, Hey, yeah,
just just let me know, Just let me know, Okay, Nah, we.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Will contact us after the first month of the season.
Don't contact us after the first game, after the first
month of the season.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Contact us first month, Okay, first Mom,