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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Patriots looked awful, impressive. They beat the Jets twenty
seven fourteen. I don't know they looked impressive. The Jets
aren't good, but the Patriots look good. I mean those
first couple of drives. Drake May was with Brady esque.
I'm talking about christ Yes here, nice, Stefan Diggs, bill
and reinvigorated. He looks good. Trevy Henderson is running extremely hard.
(00:28):
Two touchdowns on the ground, one in the air. Drake
made twenty five or thirty four, two eighty one one touchdowns.
I thought overall, I thought they played well. But who
let's let's let's before we get to the Jets, let's
highlight the Patriots. Oh, Joe, yeah, Okay, okay, Mike Brabel
has done an unbelievable job. You go, i'ma let you
(00:49):
go head. Hell of a job, hell of a job. Listen,
Mike Rabel.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm not sure what he did once he got there,
but he's done one hell of a job. Obviously, it
makes things much easier when you have a quarterback that's
playing out of his mind and only his second year
in Drake May in the division. They three and oh.
Obviously the talk has always been the Super the supposed
to go to the Super Bowl. This is their year,
the Buffalo Bills. They're two and two in the division.
(01:13):
The goddamn the Patriots have dominated all season long, being
ninety two. This is something I wasn't expecting, being being
the fan of the game of football that I am,
I didn't think they would be this good.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
They have been really, really well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And because of the quarterback play, obviously, the supporting cast
defense is played well. Stefan Diggs is playing out of
his mind. He's playing out of his mind even playing
very very good football. Mac Collins out there making plays,
Douglas doing well, doing well as well. And Trayvon Henon
is it Trayvon Henderson?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Am I saying it right? Trayvon Henderson?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Trey Bion Man, listen, but young Bull, nice boy, young.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Young Bull is real, Young bull, real nice.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He's one of the few running backs to on the
on the on the field that can hit his head
off the goal post play with okay, he got he
got speed, got speed. So man, they look really good.
They look really good tonight man. And on defense, that
got a that god damn Christian Gonzales.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
He nice, oh he he fluid? Hey listen. He nice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He needs I know he's been injured a little bit,
but he needs to be in the conversation of top
five dbs.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Especially Oh yeah, yeah he is. I mean you know
PS PS two, Stingley Jr. Him, Yeah, you know, those
those are those are your top I guess people like Warn,
some people like J. C. Horn, But I think I
think Gonzale, I think PS two, and I think uh
Stingley Jr. I think those are the top three corners
(02:38):
in my book because they all putenty very very different. Now,
Gonzales and and PS two kind of they got kind
of similar body types. Their tall angular uh Stingley is
a little bit more compact, probably a little bit a
little more, a little because a little probably a little
stronger because of the way he the way he's built.
But if you look at the way as two and
(03:00):
the way he glides, he and Gonzales have a very
very similar game. Yeah yeah, trivia on Hennessy A had
two Russian one in there. Uh one yeah, yeah, threw
him one. Uh but yeah, this is this is oh Joe,
this is a very good team. They're very well coached.
And now you see why that after one year mister
crafts like you know what, Gerard, I really hate to
(03:22):
pull the plug this quick, but this coach is proven,
uh and it's too good to pass up. And if
we don't do this now, there's a good.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Be going somewhere else. Yeah, he'd be going somewhere.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Else because if you think about it, The Falcons interviewed
Mike Brabel, Mike McDonald at Seattle. They interviewed like more
guys that are doing extremely well right now, and it's
settled on the Rightheek Corse and Rahi. He's gonna have
to get this thing. He's gonna have to get this
thing turned around. But just watching New England, they don't
(03:55):
beat themselves. I know, you know, Raber doesn't really mention
the whole lot, but I think he took a whole
lot playing under coach Belichick. The man of rhythm. Now
he's not a he's not his stoic on the sideline.
He's waiting to give his guys high five. Coming off
the field. He's waiting to hug his guys. You watch
him in the hallway, Ojoe, when they're coming off the
field after Big Rick victory. He's hugging everybody. Hey, come on,
(04:16):
get in here, come on, let's go. Let's He's a
guy I would love to play for. He's the type
of guy that you love, you love to play for,
because he ain't gona sugarcoat it now. Oh Joe, you
know exactly where you staying with Mike Rabel, Yes, sir, O.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Joy, take you time, take it time.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I tweeted a little bit, but I just say I
just stopped tweeting because people, you know, I think, like man,
you pick it on the guy. But at some point
in time, O Joe, I'm not so sure Justin Fields
is gonna ever be what a lot of people thought
he would become, O Joe, let me give you some
of these stats. He was three four eleven he got
injured in the fourth quarter for twenty seven yards. Yeah,
(05:00):
he played the entire game. In the first goals, he
was nine or seventeen for forty five yards. He played
the entire game. Against the Carolina Panthers, he was six
or twelve for forty six yards and lost to Cleveland.
He was six of eleven for fifty four yards and
forty two of your those yards came on a screenplay
screen battor tonight. Yeah, before the final drive he had
(05:23):
seventy five yards passing. Yes, sir, I think ad Mitchell
left his hands in Indy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Hey, oh listen, listen now. Now he ended the game
with seventy five yards, right, No.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
He had one hundred to sixteen. But before that, before
that final drive, he got forty one of the one sixteen. Right.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So one of the things that I do want to
say before before we pile on justin field, I want
I want to talk about some of the drop passes
Ady Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Two big plays.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They played two big plays in the first half before half.
You got the haddos you got back. Yeah, it's oh man,
you got to have that. It's perfect though outside show
away from the you got to have that's that's perfect
red line. You pull that in. Then the wheel route
down up, you know, adjust yourself, slow down a little bit,
(06:19):
you know, perfect perfect ball outside shoulder DV has no
way to make a play, had no way to make
a plan.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You've got to have that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So though those are those are passes that you got
to help your quarterback out some time. You got to
help your quarterback. And that's why the stats looked like
look the way they look. Sometimes they dropped past he had.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
He had a couple of drops. But there was a couple.
O Joe, he had ad a d probably would have
dropped it, but he had him. He had him on
the head. That's a simple pitching kid.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh he threw a wy he threw a.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You put that on that, because here's the thing, the
dB is probably retreating. You put that on him. Now,
going to face you up. There's a chance I can
make you miss at least at least I caught it
at five and bare minimum. Moo, I'm gonna get a
first down. I might make you missing. Yet even more,
I'm like, justin to start the game. You can't because
(07:12):
what do we always say, Oh, Joe, give me something.
I just want to get my hand. I just want
to touch the ball. Let me touch it. Give me
nothing sophisticated. Just let me catch you here, let me
catch a step, let me catch a shallow cross. I
just want to touch the ball. You give it to
me early? You got me late? Yeah? Justin? How how
on a on a on a five yard hitch route?
You miss A got that far outside?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Mm hmm and listen. And that that goes for the
quarterback too. Most of the time, some quarterbacks they don't
want to come out with anything want they want something short.
They want a nice little check down to get themselves
in a rhythm, you know, to get a feeling for
the game and not not really chase the game, but
allow the game to come to them. And and that's
that's what you want. You want to slant, you want
to hit, you want some want something you know short.
(07:56):
But I think I think right now, I'm not sure
we as bad as the Jets are, everyone around justin
fields has to be almost they have to. Yeah, they
have to raise their level of play. They got to
raise their level of play to catch up or to
make sure they can overcome for Justine's mistakes or his
lack of confidence. Right now, you have to that that's
(08:18):
what you need. You need that kind of dog out there.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And he didn't. He didn't play to night. I think
I think Gary I r right now.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So he's gonna he's gonna miss the next now three
gamester after the night and and the boy, they got
the musterd up, they got the mustard up. You know
those that are there, John John Michie made some made
some plays. John Messy, I'm sorry, I might apologize Meshi.
He made some plays tonight, tight end, you know, little
chuck down play.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But that's yeah, you gotta have that catch, that tied
end on the fourth down. You gotta hold that one.
You got the first down then, and you're getting hard
because you take it so long. Toplit the ball to you.
The guys bring it in. He knocked it down.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But outside of that, man, listen, the gest that they
if they didn't play.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That bad, they didn't. They really just couldn't get off
the field in that first half. Oh jhoe. They couldn't
get off the field. I mean, they get him in third,
they get him in thirty four, thirty five, they get
a first down, they get him in thirty ten, they
get a first down. They just could not get off
the field. And and I'm like, okay, they rushed three,
they rush four, they bring pressure, and they still didn't
get there. I'm like, well, damn, how difficult. I mean, man,
(09:28):
how difficult is it? And you you're right? And I
think a lot of times the drops maybe that that
messes with with with Justin Field's confidence because he's like,
well am I doing something? What am I doing wrong?
Because he'll throw one terrible and then he'll drop a dime.
He'll throw two terrible and he'll throw another dime. He
had he had Ady Mitchell get him to go. He
had gone out as an ass with the ball. I
(09:48):
thought he's playing penn to table the donkey, I said,
with damn, he comes out in the ass. He was beat.
And that's the thing when you get a guy beat
down there. Oh Joe, you know you already struggling as
an offense. You can't miss what I tweeted. I said, Mitchell,
(10:10):
you're not that good offensively to Oh, you're not that
good of a team to overcome those kind of mistakes.
That's a draw. And they're not. And you're saying, Okay,
you get a guy like Justin Fields and he's struggling.
But they don't have the receivers. They don't have a
Chase or Jedle or one of these top flight receivers
that could over a couple of them. They need more
than one. They need a couple of a couple of
(10:32):
them that can elevate them. They and I just I
just it sucks. It sucks. It sucks.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And listen, not not only that they're not playing well,
they let two of the best players on d show.
Obviously you got you got players for them, so you
would hope those players that you got in the trade
can step up and and and and play the part.
And obviously it's it's eighty it's eighties, first week, this
is first Yeah, right, it's the first game.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is there? The first time he caught the path? Is there?
The first time he read a round? I mean, I
mean you say, no, matter where you go, wherever, you play.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right right right right right right, like I'm not listening,
I'm not making an excuse me for him.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You have to you have to make those plays. You
have to. You got to it with Justin fields out.
I'm excuse me, Garrett Wilson out. You're supposed to be
the best receiver because the cost, they had high expectations
until you got into Shane Steiken's dog outs with that fumble.
It was never the same after that. Now, maybe there
was something going on, maybe that was the final straw
that broke the Campbell's back on show, But from that
(11:35):
point on, it was the same. No, the same. But
I just don't know how you throw for twenty seven
yards in a game, you throw for forty five yards
in the game, you throw for forty six yards in
the game. You throw for fifty four yards in a game,
and you throw for one hundred and sixteen and forty
one of that came on the final drive. I just
(11:55):
don't know how you you move on and become and
become what people thought you were gonna become when they
took you at the top draft pick. Now, you know,
I think you were fifteen to sixteen something like that.
O Yoe, I just don't see the consistency. I don't
see I don't see him one two, check it down,
(12:17):
one two, three out of bounds, one two gone. I
don't see that. And you know, as a quarterback, the
really good ones, yes, backfoot hit. Okay, I'm dropping back.
I know the play, Oh Joe, I'm dropping back already.
I'm gone through it. Okay, we've gone through it through
the course of the week. Cover one we go here,
(12:38):
Cover two, we go there, Quarters we go here, Cover five,
we go there, Skott Siks, we already know. So when
you back it up, the sections already told you what
it's doue single high safety. I know I'm going right now.
Oh he's covered. Let me see what two is. It's
two there Okay, let me check this check down. Oh Joe. Yeah, see,
it seems like it's like he got a dial up service.
(12:59):
He ain't got that. By g they say they got something,
they got TIMG off in China, say hey, you cut
the bone on. They already gone to what you're looking for. Yeah, yeah,
most definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I think the fact that also with the offensive line
not not playing as well as they should be, he's
rushing everything a little bit, not being able to go
through his progression and understand listen, pre snap. Okay, I'm
seeing what they're doing. And once that ball snaps, you
know obviously you want you want that. You want that
head straight down the field, not giving anything away and
(13:28):
not having the time to be able to go through
his read and progression. I think he speeds things up
and hurry's throws. He rushes throws to Herbie, getting the
ball out of his hands too.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah. I mean, okay, I'm looking at against Buffalo, he
averaged two point five yards of the temp against the Broncos,
two point six yards per attempt against Carolina, three point
eight yards per attempt against Cleveland four point nine yards attempt.
That's not even a running back average squat if he's
doing that, right, imagine if you're a quarterback and that's
(13:57):
what your yard forer Attemp did, that is horrible. Yeah, yeah,
it's bad.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But also you know, also, you know what else, It
also comes down to the weapons around you. It also
it also comes down to what do you have, what
is your supporting cast? Like, now you take a Justin
Fields here hypothetically speaking, right, So you keep the same
offense and you put a Jamar Chase, So you put
a Justin Jefferson, you put a T. Higgins, or you
(14:24):
put any of the top tier, top tier receivers on
that team together. Yeah, no one in one or one,
a one in a one or a decent a decent one. Yeah, hey,
it looks completely different because they can overcome for all
the woes that Justin Fields may be having, they can
overcome all that the small stuff. You got Jamar Chase
(14:46):
crazy as you could take a goddamn slant and the
goddamn hitch eighty yards. You got T Higgins. Any ball
you throw to him, which was considered for most receivers
fifty to fifty. Hell with him, it's ninety ten. Like
small stuff like that, where you have players that that
can elevate their play to overcome for your your shortcomings.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It makes things easier. But they just don't have that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Therefore, everybody else has to raise the level to play
and damn it be perfect.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But and that that's the issue. That's the issue. They
have to look at the guys that you just mentioned,
they had their best seasons. If you think about it,
what do the guys do really well? Process information really
really quickly? Oh yeah, go back and look at Joe. Now,
go back and look at Joe Flacco. It doesn't even
look like Chase is falling off because Joe Flacco backfoot here.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I'm going to it as cousins are, Sam Donald, You
couldn't tell who's in there with Jella because they process
information quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You That is the number one thing. How well do
you download information? And how quickly can you disseminate it?
I don't care, I don't care what you got, I
don't care what I gotta leg you got? Can you? Hey?
If I put that information on Joe, how soon can
you spit it back out? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And the funny thing about it is not only being
able to process it, not only being able to spit
it out but you know, it makes it even easier
the motherfucker you throw on to on the other but easier.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But see, now you got me. Okay, I run a
hitch route, Now you gonna got me. Well do I
need to slide? Do I need to slide? Because I'm
anticipating because I don't know where it's gonna be. I know,
normally I'm gonna get a hitch. I will get it
in the framework of my body, Ojo. Because he's not
gonna be under pressure because it's one, two, three, boom
balls out, so he's not gonna be up under pressure.
(16:41):
So I think I'm gonna get the ball somewhere in here,
here here, not out here. Yeah. Yeah, So it makes
it difficult. It's like sometimes when you're dealing with a
mobile quarterback, it's hard to adjust to them, Ojoe, because
I run my route and next thing I know, he
well in the crowd screaming. I was like, damn, what happened?
(17:01):
He way over there? I'm like, what damn? So it's
hard when your quarterback is inconsistent. I don't give a
damn what the receiver is. You want some consistency at
that that that position, but you want somebody that can
digest information. The coach put the put it in and
he spit it right back out in the form of
(17:23):
getting the ball out of his hand. I hope I'm wrong.
I pray I'm wrong, But I just don't know if
he's ever gonna be what many thought he would be,
especially when you look at the game that he had
against who did you play against Clemson? You look at
that game and he had against Clemson, and he was sensational. Yeah,
and and and I was like, okay, now playing with
(17:46):
those guys that he had alive and Garrett Wilson and
all those guys, we understand, see see, But you didn't
realize once you get to the NFL, the likelihood of
you having five receivers that are five stars or be
that type of guy that the likelihood is not very good. Yeah.
Does he have a Chase? No? Does he have a Jetta?
(18:07):
Does he have any of the top top receivers? No?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, What I will say, now, what I will say,
he does have Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now, Garrett Wilson, who was who had a phenomenal who
had a phenomenal rookie year with.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Facts that if you look at him o Joe. If
you look at him, if you just put him on
paper and you say, look at what was throwing the
Garrett Wilson when he won Offensive Rookie of the Year,
and you look at what's throwing the Garrett Wilson. Now,
if you just look over just hey, you're like man
with Justin Fields. He about to go crack and he
played with him in college.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I mean I mean, listen, judge,
Garrett Wilson is a phenomenal talent. Nothing should taper off
when you have a talent like that. It's so easy
when you look at what they're able to do with
Devonte Adams and and pooping the cop hell JSN And
obviously I don't think the Jets off is a cour
and there that has that kind of creativity to.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Put in you and Justin Justin Field to use.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Garrett Wilson in the right type of way to create
those mismatches like the other team.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I can give you all the nice ingredients, I won't,
but if you don can't cook, what the hell have
I done? I spent a whole lot of money on
going great food, great ingredients, and I know you can't
make a dish with it. It comes down to it.
O't Joe, You're really good. Go look at Chopped and
the Iron Chef and they give these they get these people. Okay,
(19:32):
I'm gonna give you chocolate. I'm gonna give you onions.
I'm gonna give you stone crabs. And I'm like, how
did you even think of this? Yes? But you give somebody,
you give them. Oh, okay, I'm gonna give you steak.
I'm gonna give you this. I'm gonna give you that.
You're like, what I'm what I'm supposed to make. I
(19:55):
just I hope I'm wrong, Chat, I really do, but
I just I just seeing him and I watched him. Now,
this man has gone through three head coaches and probably
be four offensive coordinators. And I'm not and and and
and and and Sometimes you get lucky and you get
to you get a Sean mcvail, or you get a
Kyle shan a hand But I just don't. I just
(20:15):
don't know it, because at the end of the day,
the quarterback position is all about processing information and spitting
in the back out. That's what it comes down to.
It is. I mean, I don't care how good, how
big your arm is I don't care how fast your
legs are. Can you process it? O choe mm hmm,
because that's that's a whole different all okay, because not
only was you process you gotta realize they got they
(20:38):
got fired that on most occasions they got four guys.
That's really trying to tear your damn head off. Oh
so you got you in fear for your life. But
also you gotta calm yourself down and says, you know what,
one to check down, one to throw it out of bounds,
one to if that I'm out. Yeah m hm, it's
(21:01):
all it's all about that clock. Maybe maybe maybe put
him in, maybe put him in hurry up the game,
because it seems like, you know, when he's in hurry up,
he's better. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't bumble.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, I mean listen that that's on the that's on
the center too, that's on the city. Come on, now,
that's the NFL. Now put the put put the snap
at the mid It should be the snap. The snap
should come in the same area every single time you
go through your dog got I mean, like, come on now,
come on center.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Don't don't a little do that. Don't do that a
little man. The ball hit it. The ball hit his ankles.
But you know what, it's just that, you know, take that,
take that, Take that away. They got three points out
of there. Give the defense credit because I thought the
defense gave up one touchdowns and two field goals in
the second half. Yeah, they did force the three and
(21:56):
out on on the on the first possession of the
second half, which is cool to uh, you know, you see,
I think the Jets won the toss and they took
the ball. They drove the ball right down the field,
something they don't normally don't do. Uh. It normally ends
in a punt or or turnover. And they drove the ball.
I think they had the ball like fourteen plays and
drove the ball and punched it in the end zone.
(22:17):
But I just, Lord, I hope I'm wrong, but I
just I just I just don't see where he's ever
gonna be more than what he is. I don't think
he's ever gonna be turning to what and and that's what.
And that's okay because everybody ain't gonna be a Lamar Jackson.
Everybody's not gonna be Josh Allon or Patrick Mahome. But
I mean, I think if the jets could be okay,
(22:38):
if he was just like middle of the road, you
just can't be You can't be the bottom tier. I'm
not saying you got to be top tier, but I mean,
if we got that kind of if we got Chad
and you can see this, if we got this much face,
can you be somewhere in here and not be down
here in the middle, right? Can we get that o Joe?
Mm hmm. And you know it all? You know what else?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It all com to, not only all not only all
the intangibles and all the all the nuances that we're
talking about. But unless you got confidence, ain't nothing happening.
You got to be able to play with confidence. You
have to be able to play with confidence and and
everything that you do.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And one of the.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Most important positions quarter goddamn quarterbacks important, absolute, the most,
the most.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Because if you don't believe you your your your body language, yeah,
your aura is gonna say. If you don't believe, I
don't believe either. I mean, if you don't trust your skill,
why you won't me. That's why you used to get
in the car somebody built, but the seatbelt fast, the
seat belt hell I fast. In mind, you do something
(23:45):
I don't, so you can building you. I've been around
quarterbacks when they walk into the huddle, you know, they
do you the confidence that you know what the hell
you do it exactly, exactly exactly. Man. I hope, I
(24:06):
hope they get it together.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm not sure what direction they're gonna go in, but
the way they've started so far and letting the soft
go and let go oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I
just wait listen, But who are gonna're gonna You're gonna
start it over with the court. Yeah, I believe you're
gonna start with You're gonna draft another one You're gonna draft,
I believe.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, I mean, I don't know if there's any any
quarterbacks that's gonna become available. Uh yeah, probably Sam Donald
didn't want any parts of New York again, which I
wouldn't blame it, you know. Uh, but look, I mean
every day seemed like I hear a story about somebody
that played there having an interaction with the owner, and
it's never positive and it's never good. Right yeah, and
(24:49):
uh with that situation, I hope uh uh A g
gets at least three years because it's not like you
had the power for roster begin with. And now you
stripped them of his two best defensive players. So he
got to get at least two years, and without a quarterback,
you can give him five years and he's still not
gonna get it done cause you're not as hard. It's
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damn near impossible. And I know well y'all did it
in twenty two thousands with the Raid with Trent Dilferd.
They don't allow you to play football like that. You
don't play football like that anymore. The rules are different.
So no, there's nobody winning another Super Bowl like we
won it or like Tampa won it in two you're
not because they won't allow you to play defense like that.
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Your quarterback is gonna have to stand in the pocket
and he's gonna have to make plays throwing the f
and football. Yeah, he's gonna be able to use his
legs to get out of harm's ways some, but he's
gonna have to be able to throw the football. The
days of oh, we got a killer defense and we're
gonna run the ball. No you're not. No, No you're not,
you're not. You're not gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You're not gonna win very many games like that because
once the team gets ahead on you once the team
gets ahead on you ten fourteen points, and.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Who can't run your way back into a game? Absolutely
ask this, Oh, Joe, do you like Kyler Murray because
I believe that I believe there's gonna be a separation
of church and state in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Uh Huh, Yeah, most definitely, because I think Kyler Murray
is healthy. I think he got me personally. I think
he's healthy. But they're they're continuing to want to go
with j Kobe Brissett based on how he look and
how the offense moved with him, you know, the few
weeks he's been in. Uh, if they do part ways
with him, I'm sure Kyler Murray will be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Next year for sure. How would it look over in
New York? I'm not sure. I'm not sure if if
it's a fit.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It all depends on AG Obviously, outside of AG, you
you got to go to the higher powers and see
if that's all Yeah, they want to look into or
do you want to go into the draft?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
When you when you think about some of the quarterback
coming into the draft, you know this year, is there
a franchise altering quarterback that can come in there and
change a franchise. I haven't seen any anything like that
this year. There have been some that have played good,
but nothing that just blows you out the water, like
you know, with that.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Guy, we've got to have him. I agree. I haven't
seen that. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either,
o Jo. So we'll see how this plays out. The
Pittsburgh Staylors stay the top of the AFC North thanks
toward thirty four to twelve victory. Although Aaron Rodgers left
the game what many believed to be a crack at
(27:27):
a break at his wrist, Mason Rudolph came in finished
twelve or sixteen seven of the touchdown. He relieved Aaron Rodgers,
who was not a fifteen one sixteen at a touchdown.
They won thirty four to twelve. But that was not
the story of the game. Something happened late in the
ball game. Jalen Ramsey was ejected for punching T not
(27:51):
T Higgins, Jamar Chase in the face. They asked Chase,
excuse me, They asked Jalen Ramsey, what happened? Huh? Okay,
we got okay, Let's take a listen to what what
Ramsey said. After the game. He's spilled me, So it's up.
I'm gonna get football after that, respectfully. Okay, here's what
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Chase said. Walker.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Still, what happened with the Jim exchanging words?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Due you was saying that you spit on him? Did
you spin on him?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I ain't ever, I ain't never over in my mouth
to that time.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, what you so, what do you think proft the
reaction from him?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well, you don't like some of the words I told him.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We've been going back and forth the whole time, so
I'm sure some shiit, some got under this.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but y'all all good. We got we got we
got Austin break brisket, brisky, brisky, Austin brisky Fox nineteen.
He got it all on tape. Let's take a look
at this on Yoe. Yeah, Joe, that's your guy. I've
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met him a few times. I like Chase. He's the
best receiving football. But he's spilled on Jaalen Ramsey and
you know, and everybody knows. I've been abundantly clear where
I am the most disrespectful thing you can do. Yeah,
we know the ND word. We know the con the
connotations and what it summons. Up. But my boy, my
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grandfather used to always say, he said, boy, you don't
spit on if you you're telling me I on the ground,
that is the lowest thing you can do. Oh Joe,
he's spilled on that man and he lied, And Jayleen
Ramsey said, Jayalen Ramsey say, he's spit on me. So
it's up after that and football after that point, take
it away. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Y'all know how I feel about about you know, you
know how.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I feel about Jamar.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And you know I'm really critical of players, very really.
It takes a lot for me to be critical of someone.
But this is one of those situations where I got
to let Chase no, but you're dead wrong way. As
much as I love you, you can't do that. You
can't do that. You could be angry, you could be mad.
You can say what you want to say to a
player on the field, but you can't spit on nobody. Wrong,
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young bull, you can't spit on nobody. Obviously, you know,
cooler heads will prevail. But in those situations like that,
when you're angry, I know you're frustrated the game might
not be going your way. You're not getting the ball
the way you want to get the ball. You know
how these division games go. Situations like this happen all
the time, especially when it's Bengal Steelers. It's just like this.
(30:49):
It's tight, it's tight. You get angry, you get frustrated.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
But you can't. You can't. You just can't.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You know, as much as I love you, I'm disappointed
obviously in your actions.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna talk to you. I haven't
had the chance today. You know, I ain't want to
bother you.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But if you look back, you think about it, you
probably won't be in this situation again. Knowing the NFL
and the way they disciplined, they'll probably suspend you for
a game, and you know it'll probably never happen again.
It probably never happened again. But to something you just
can't do, young Bull, You can't. You can't do this.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Just own it, just say you know my emotions, Hey, Jalen,
I'm sorry. My emotions got the best of me. When
emotions are high, logic is low. Ram I'm sorry I
let my emotions get the best of me. Y'all. I
was wrong. I was dead ass wrong for what I
did it's hard to do something now publicly, o yo,
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and nobody sees it because everybody got carings everywhere because
O yo. If they're having a conversation and you know, hey,
sometimes when I get excited, I have to man, I'm sorry,
I ain't mean to space. We've all done that. We
get excited, we started talking and we accidentally accidently spray them.
But that wasn't no spray, Ohoe. That was not no spray.
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That was not a spray. And he did it, and
he lied to reporters and he said, I ain't I
ain't open my mouth. You did Chase. You're wrong, bro,
You're wrong. And I know that's not what you did.
I'm not gonna define you by that, but you did that.
I don't believe in Ohoe that that that I s
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the worst thing that a person done. That is that
that's who we Now obviously we got repeat offenders. But
there's nothing in this history now, nothing in his background
that would suggest this is not hears. So I'm gonna
give him the benefit of the doubt. Now, the NFL,
they should they gotta sit you down. They got to
sit you down for a game. That's the least they
can do Jayalen Ramsey. You're gonna get fined a little fine,
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but they're not gonna suspend you because you because your
suspension was you got kicked out of the game. That
was your punishment, and you're gonna get fined. You'll probably
get fined I don't know, twelve twenty five thousand, something
like that. But Chase, you're gonna get suspended. And I
don't know why, Chase, I don't know. Oh cho, And
I've been mad with you. I know you've been mad
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at people. I've been mad at people I could but
just spit on somebody. Do you know how disrespectful, how
degrading that is as a black man? You, Chase, you
know the history of Louisiana in the South. That's what
they used to do to your grandpa, your great grandpa,
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your great grandma. Yeah, yeah, when they was trying to
integrate the schools. Come on, Chase, we gotta be better
than that. We can't do that to each other. I
get it. Yeah, we get upset, Yeah we get angry,
but come on, we gotta do better than that when
it comes to each other. For us, I might disagree
with something you said, I might not like what you said,
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and like I said, he but I can't. I cannot
do that because what happens is, O Joe, if you
spit on somebody, whatever that individual does to you after that,
I'm good with. Yeah, if they whatever whatever. And if
you spit on somebody, and that go for family member
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or anybody. If you spit on somebody, whatever that person
does to you after that, Oh well, you're right, because,
O Joe, the thing is, you get to control your actions.
You don't get to control of the consequences that comes
from your act. You're right. I'm just I'm just disappointed
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because he would have been the last person I would
have thought, uh that would do something like this. Like
I said, I've been around them half for that, not
like you, O Joe, I don't like you, But he
was a you know, guys normally when they see me,
they respect for what's going on, how you do it,
blah blah blah. But man and dagn I mean and
then and I want and I want and I wanted
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to believe because like I said, I've been around Ram
a little bit, but he not. I said, no, the
a little bit time I've been around him, and what
I seen him, you know we dealmed a couple of times.
He dons he honestly, you gotta think.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You got to think these boys, especially when they come
to Jalen, when when it comes to Uno. You know,
I'm around these fellas consistently all the time, you know,
whether whether it's working out, whether it's hanging out, whether
it's eating.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I hang out.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I hang out with Jalen when he's down, when he
was dying here in Miami. And obviously you know my
my my relationship with Chase, you know, since he got drafted.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Now that's that's.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Something even even even even even more close. And none
of these individuals are like that. But emotions get the
best of us. Sometimes sometimes we make mistakes. And I've
been in situations we mostly got the best of me,
and I've done things that are totally out of my character,
out of my character, it's totally uncharacteristic of who I
am and what I represent and everything that I stand for.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And I think this is one of those situations for Case.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
This is something that happened where obviously logic was low
because emotions were high.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I was upset, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Frustrated the game's not going well. Then they got them
trash talking to me. We going back and forth, and
it just it got the best of them. And I'm
really not the one that's old, that is in positions
to be the voice of reason. But I'm probably one
of the few people outside of family members that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
No will listen to.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
He will listen to and and and actually listen and
take heed to what I'm saying, because I've been in
situations where we're not that this magnitude, We're not thinking,
we're not thinking straight.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
You know, it can cost you. You know, now this
is gonna call them.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's not gonna call them, you know, as much as
it did for me for being in a situation.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Where my logical was low as hell.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Uh, I mean it was super low, and it cost
me a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Now this is just on small scale, still in a
very disrespectful manner. But that's why you're the perfect person
to speak on this, because you've been in a similar
situation where emotion was high, proget was low. And sometimes
when the situation like that, we let our motion get
the best of us. And that's not who we are.
But in that moment, just for a second, you threw
caution to the wind. We've all been there, and my
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thing is, Chase, you didn't have to lie. All we
would have looked. Everybody's gonna look at you a certain way.
But Jay say, you know what all you had to
do is say, Ram, I'm sorry. You should have went a.
You should have made peace with that man A. Y'all
get me Rams. No, I'm gonna call him. I want
to call him and tell him as a man. I said, Bro,
I won't tell the world that I did. I was wrong,
(37:36):
I was dead ass, but I wanted to tell you
first man the man. Ram, I'm sorry, Bro, that ain't me. Bro.
You know me, that ain't me. We're both competitors. You're
fighting your ass off of your team. I'm fighting my
ass off for my team, and my emotions got the
best of me. Ram, I'm sorry, Bro, Man. I really
hope you forgive me because I don't want your family.
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I don't want your family to look at me in
that life, and I don't want my family to look
at me in that light to know that I did
something like that, because I know my family would be
very disappointing in me. So I'm coming to you as
a man, but I'm gonna tell the world I did
what I did. I did, and I want to apologize
to you as a man of got him in the tunnel.
(38:18):
I went to the tune. I said, bro, Hey, I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go. Look, I'm gonna do my
press conference, but I'm gonna find Ram and say I'm sorry.
I would have and I think he will and hey,
that's between him and Ram. I don't have to know
about everybody tell me about well he did it, but nah,
noah good. Just apologize to the man and we're gonna
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keep on moving. But just no man to oh Joe.
They ain't like when you and I first got in
the league. They got a couple of cameras. Bro They
catching everything. They catch everything, And that's why you see
guys cover their mouth when they talk to one another,
O Joe, because guess what people try to read lips.
Y'all tried to read exactly what O Joe and I
talking about. Man, it seems like he said, remember when
Jaylen Brown was on the side line and he and
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his girl and they was talking about Brody.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, on the on the side Yeah, I
remember that.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, they did read his lips. That's right, that's right.
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I remember that exactly, exactly exactly, and we were gonna
we're gonna get this the situation rightified though, We're gona
we're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It regular fied. I know, I know. Look, but let
me show you question O Joe. The league gotta step
in because we we and it happened. I mean, but
to see, I mean what I think this is the
second or the third time that this has happened this year. Yeah,
we had with the Jaalen Carter. We wanted the uh
that I think there was another situation.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm not sure it was college college. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
But listen, the league is gonna gonna step in. They're
gonna obviously discipline them. It probably it probably probably one
game suspension. I didn't I didn't.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I didn't call it. I didn't call you know, the night.
I don't call him the Knight. Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
He got enough to deal with as it is. You know,
coming off a loss, I left, I allowed twenty four
hours to go by. So tomorrow, you know, I gotta
fight to New York tomorrow. So when I fly to
New York, I'm gonna take that time out. Being that
this is this is off day. I'm sure, they're probably
going to watch film and I'm gonna catch up later
on and even and uh, and just just just talk
to him, just just talk to him a little bit
about you know, being able to to use logic even
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in situations where when you're when you're not in your
right state of mind, because at times it getting cost you.
And I'm the perfect example of not using your your
your mind and the right state of mind. And it's
not gonna cost you big this time, but it cought
from my whole career, you know. So, so using that
example with him in a small situation which was extremely disrespectful,
(40:34):
you know, will be perfect because.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I'm just I'm a prime example. Yeah, oh, Joe, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
I told you before we were going we're going off
the uh the begum game already.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
What you want to talk about? Listen? Uh, Brother Darnell Washington.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
The way, Hey, hey, he pissed me off man, he's
are you supposed to be playing with the goddamn Nicks
or something?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Hey, yo, Actually he's supposed to have a seventy number.
He's supposed to be off here of the tackle, hey boy,
of joking six seven because he got a job. Yeah,
you see how you respectful? I'm like, why are you
pushing on people like that? Why are you at tight end? Hey?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hey, hey hey, Donald Washington, boy, you was balling out
to night all Stealer fans.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
For those of you that are in the chat, you
know how I feel about you. I love you.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I've always been respectful and shown sportsmanship, and I've shown grace.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Well be one of whether we lost. I was always respectful.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
But Donette Washington, what you did to my teammates, I
have to avenge them. So whenever I see you in
public and offseason, you just know we're gonna squabble, We're
gonna square up, and we're gonna fight. But boy, you
had a hell of a game. Boy, you had a
hell of a game. Salute to y'all steal A fan.
Congratulations on your winter day.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I love y'all. Y'all got it. I hope Aaron Rodgers
is okay.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
If he's not okay, I think it's his non throwing hand.
I think something in this rest is non throwing him
that might be broke. Aaron Rodgers, do me a small favor.
Put you a hard cast on. Now, put your hard
cast on now, and let's play ball next week. Now,
let's play ball next week. We could play with that,
whether it's a small break, a little break or I don't.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Know why you're talking about our team. Why are you
talking about our team? You not even a Steeler? Well,
I'm saying that's not me. They're in the North.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
So I feel compelled to be able to sow the
rate my team hold on. Listen, I feel compelled to
support them because my team is out right now.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
That's all, Oh your TV do they told you that,
don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Don't do that because they told you don't do that.
Because if if we won the day, if we had
won the game today, we would have had a chance.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But I told you you weren't going to win. I
told you you're gonna lose your legs. I told you
how many games, chant how many times? How many times
do y'all hear me telling O Joe, y'all about to
lose out? And although the window is open, Joe Burrow
is back at practice a little head of schedule day
the twenty one day windows open. He ain't coming back
come back from what It's so good, it's all good.
(43:14):
It's all good. It's all good. In a battle of
seven two teams that would give the winners so oppositionion
the first place in the NFC West, Sam Donald threw
one two, three, four I iNTS, no touchdown passes, and
Seattle lost twenty one to nineteen to the Rams. Donald
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delivered his worst performance of the season. The Seahawks in
a week eleven, NFL's third highest scoring team despite sixteen turnovers,
including ten by Donald, which is tied for the second most.
But they couldn't survive four more giveaways today. Yo, have
(43:58):
you lost any faith at four two seventy nine zero
touchdowns for.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I n T's absolutely not no no faith at all.
Listen the fact that you do for for for I
n TS they only lost twenty one Wait, they only
lost what twenty one nineteen? I only lost twenty one nineteen? Okay,
Sam done. You had a bad day. You had a bad,
bad day. You've been playing great, You've been playing great
all season long. You know, quarterbacks won't have games like this.
(44:25):
Quarterbacks are going to have games like this, and this
is your one. Let's get it out of our system. Now,
let's get it out of our system. Now, you know,
and going forward, let's get back to the regular schedule program.
On how we've been flowing offensively, very smooth. You've been
running the ball through the air.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
We've been great.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, him and him and Jackson had another good day
today and Jae what I think Jigber had what nine
for one oh six? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nine one five.
You look good in that area. And I think if you,
if you he just going head huper crazy, dude gonna
get two thousand eight, he will he play? He had twelve,
(45:03):
he had too, hold on, they got seven games to go.
He's at twelve hundred. Over twelve hundred now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
And the funny thing about it, how many yards? How
many yards does the js an half?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
He hit the thousand yard mark I think last week
a week before last.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, he over had he got eleven forty six,
So he had he needs he needs. So he's uh
in seventy seventy two or seventy seventy two catches, So
he's averaging seven catches a game, damn.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And he gonna have about two or three games he
go crazy though. So he definitely the.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Game last week when they were blowing everybody out and
he came out. That was a game. He need games
like where they're close and they're going back and forth.
So that way he gonna be in there and he'll
get a he'll get a ten twelve thirteen fourteen catch
game one eighty five, two hundred, because you gotta have
you need, you need one game where you get to
yea two fifteen to twenty year because uh, I think
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that was the year that Megatron, with that year of
Mega Tron broke that record when he had that three
twenty nine. Remember he had the three twenty nine against
the Calage and then he needed three twenty nine. He
needed eight yards, No, he needed ten yards. Eleven yards Yeah,
yeah to break Flip because Flip got Oh think well Flip.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Got three thirty six. Yeah, Flipp Anderson, Yeah, three thirty six.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
That's the record. So I was like, damn, he gonna
get to he gonna get the rest out of yards
that thing. Bill, we're crazy on the Saints on that
Sunday night. Hey, that's a lot of yards, man. Shoot,
who who I play? I actually I play.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Remember he came Julio had against the Carolina Panthers. He
had three hundred. That's crazy flipperedders. Yeah, oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Flip Flip only came Flip came out. Uh in eighty
in eighty eight, Flip came out. He came out with
my brother. He came up my brother because it was Tim,
my brother, Mike Irvin, Uh, Aaron Cox, Anthony Miller, Flipper Anderson,
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Pharrell Levman's was a tight end drafted. Uh. Keith Jackson
Old Nelly from Oklahoma was a tight end that was drafted. Yeah,
he came up with my brother's second round pick. Yeah,
Aaron Coss with Aaron Coss was the first round pick.
But look, Matthew Stafford again two touchdowns, no interceptions. Now
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he has how many touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Is Aaron twenty seven seven and two?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Now? I think?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Asked Ash if I'm right, yeah, twenty seventy two.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah, he's gonna win the m v P.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, damn unless Jonathan Taylor come out and have two
lets Jonathan Taylor go ahead crazy and he's still can.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Because he's a threat to get two hundred. Hey, would
I be surprised if he got two hundred? Had two
two more two hundred? Your games? No? One ninety?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Stafford every won MVP before, No huh.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Never, Yeah, they he finished, gonna get to him. I
think they said he finished. He got one vote, he
finished eighth was the best he's finished. And you know
it's funny.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
But remember Stafford with that was hurt all training camp.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Uh huh he's back? Yeah, oh uh? Did didn't he
sign the deal this offseason? Then he got to sign
a three year deal for like one hundred and something.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Hey, I think I think he preserved. I think he
preserved that arm from training camp.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, now he could play. I mean he's a great guy.
Having met the guy his wife two year eighty four,
so forty two, that's good. Funny, Give me a tack
on another year. If I went to the MVP, tack
on another year eighty guarantee. Yeah, but uh they're doing
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it man. The Rams, he was good. But I remember
having this conversation. I said, Joe, uh, and we're gonna
talk about the Packers here on the second. But I
was like, are we sure? Are we sure? Even with
micaeh the Packers are better than the Rams? Are we sure?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
And and I I was one that's stood on the
table for the Packers that they're better.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Or just as good.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
If Jordan Love is playing football the right way. If
he's playing the quarterback position the way I know he
can play it. If he's not, then is looking it's
looking shady, it's looking ugly. But if he played the
way I know he can play, to me, it is
damn thear Even.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
The Packers pulled off a twenty pulled out a twenty
seven twenty win over the Giants. George Love overcome, his soul,
showed the injury. Somebody forgot to tell him he's not
Dereck Henry shouldn't be. But anyway, after scoring just twenty
points combined in their previous two games lost against the
Panthers and the Eagles sixteen thirteen lost to the Panthers
ten to seven, lost to the Eagles, the Panthers hit
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their magic number of twenty seven. They've scored exactly twenty
seven points, not a point more, not a point less
than five of the six wins this season to improve
to six three and one. Jeordan Love thirteen to twenty
four one seventy four to two touchdowns. Then it run
the ball, rob On Romeo, work force, are thy hands Romeo?
(51:03):
Uh Christian Watson came up big today, had a big
time catch a big time tough. That was really the
difference in the ball game. And then Michael Parkson's coat
closed it out with a strip sack that ended it.
He ended up having a sack and a half. Je
Just a lot of people are gonna say, James through interception,
(51:27):
that's on Jaylen Hoyatt. You cannot stop. He stopped yet,
Oh Joe, if you got an outbreaking round, I don't
give a damn If the corner is outside you, you
can't pull up because the corner is not there, because
the cornerback is throwing it on anticipation. He don't know
that you're gonna pull up, so he's throwing it where
(51:48):
he anticipated you to be. You can't do that. You
can do that? Oh my goodness, d this why Chad, Now,
y'all see why. That's that's a teaching lesson. That's why
you should be coaching. I ain't got to teach you that.
You know that you can't pull up on a damn route.
You gotta know that you can't.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
You can't allow the body of the person there to
deter you from getting to your position. If anything, if
you got the corner route and he's already sitting out there.
You want to beat him to the punch, beat him
to the position, put your body, put your body in
between the ball and him. If he knocks iak either
if he knocks it down or you make a play
on it, one or the other.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
But you can't, you can't pull up. Guess what and
when I knock it down, guess what I'm gonna do?
O Joe? Yeah, straight out.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, either way, you got to give yourself a chance,
and that in that situation you got to get You
got to give your quarterback a chance. You got to
help your quarterback out there.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Oh my goodness, these guys, bro, I see so many
guys all the time, Ojoe. The guy's running. The guy's
running an and breaking route with the guys inside. He
pulled up like the quarterback. You're like, oh, he gonna
pull up because the guys in there. You gotta go
get it, collide him. You gotta break that up, because
if you don't, it's gonna be a pegget, which it was.
(53:06):
I'm like, Jeorge, have mercy. I mean, listen, Jamos. What
was Jamos today? Jamis was nineteen or twenty nine, two
oh one one touchdown. He was sacked twice. Tracy ran
Hard in the absence of Skataboo nineteen carries eighty eight yards.
Singletary had sixteen for forty four thirty eight rush attempts
one hundred and forty two yards and them head coach
Mike Kafka claimed closed but was unable to get a win.
(53:31):
But Jordan Love was thirteen or twenty four one's seventy
four two touchdowns. Josh Jacobs was injured in this game
and did not return, So that's an injury that we're
probably gonna need to pay attention to and to see
how that how serious that injury is. Barris beat the
vike Ins nineteen seventeen with a game ending field goal
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set up by Devon Devin DuVernay a fifty six yard
kickoff return JJ McCarthy inaccuracy Dunes the Viking. Karthy completed
sixteen to thirty two passes four one hundred and fifty
yards a touchdown, but he had two interceptions. Most of
his past attempts were affected by pressure. The Bears blenched
on fewer than forty percent of the snaps, and the
(54:13):
four man rush only reached JJ three or nineteen snaps.
Yeah show JJ McCarthy sixteen to thirty two, what fifty mentioned?
What touchdowns? Two interceptions? He wasn't sack but he didn't
not good. Uh. Jefferson had five catches sixty one yards.
Hawkinson was three for thirty nine, Addison was two for twenty.
Naylor won a sixteen but he did catch a touchdown.
(54:36):
They didn't run the ball. Chicago says, you know what,
we're gonna see if you can do. They repaid returned
the favor. Remember the first game it was Ah McCarthy
that game winning drive. They ended up beating the Bears.
Kayler Williams is getting more and more comfortable. He had
sixteen to thirty two, one ninety three. He didn't throw
a touchdown and didn't have an interception. He had had
(54:58):
a fumber, but it was recovered. They read the ball
thirty nine times for a bluck forty nothing outstanding, but man,
he hard to get. Look, they got to sack Zony.
They probably should have had it about five or six times.
How we get even about it? Dickam sometimes getting out
of there.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Hey, listen, one of the few quarterbacks in the NFL
unk that can extend plays.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
He can playoff script.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
You know, and obviously when a players call, he's one
of those when the play breaks down, he can make
something out of nothing. He can make something out of
out of nothing. And you add, you add that talent
that he already has. You know, their capability, the ability
to extend plays with the creativity of Ben Johnson. Listen,
it's a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
There's a reason.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Why they are where they are. There's a reason why
their record looks like it looks. And I understood what
would happen when you get up, when you get ahead
coach like Ben Johnson, and you put them with a
talent like Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
There's a reason why they're having success this year.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
He's done very well, not turning the ball low, he'd
not turnover prone as opposed to how he was last year.
And they playing well. Oh Joe, if I'm not mistaking
the Bears in first place in.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
At the y. Yeah, how you know? Because the Lions
lost the night The Lands are six and forty's seventy three.
What did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Who are the two teams I told you to watch
out for before the season started when I talked to
you in August. The Bears and the Panthers. I told you,
I'm telling you, I know what I'm talking about when
it comes to this game of football. I know what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Rock Party were gon. We're gonna go to the forty nine.
Rock Party throw three touchdowns in his return from a
toe injury as the forty nine Ers cruise forty one
to twenty two over the sloppy Cards. Party completed nineteen
or twenty six passes for just two hundred yards, but
Christian McCaffrey extended his NFL record with his seventeenth career
game at least one running touchdown and they catching and
(56:54):
a receiving touchdown. The Cardinals were called for a franchise
record seventeen pounds these which was almost was the most
for any team in an NFL season This season, they
had eleven penalties in the first half, which was tied
for the most before halftime for any team over the
last twenty years. Jacobe Brissett started his fifth game oh Shoe.
(57:18):
He was forty seven to fifty seven, four fifty two touchdowns,
but he did have four interceptions. They didn't run the
ball of the cutting. He had two receivers Wilson fifteen catches,
eighty five yards. McBride ten one fifteen DERs six for
sixty six, So he was throwing it all over the plays,
(57:39):
but unfortunately those two turnover was undated. Rock Purty nineteen
to twenty six, two hundred yards, three touchdowns. McCaffrey had
thirteen carries eighty one yards, two touchdowns. Brian Robinson Junior
had eight for twenty four. Greg George kimm six catches
sixty seven yards, two touchdowns, Juwan Jennings four for fifty four,
Christian McCaffrey five for forty and a touchdown. Uh, don't
(58:05):
look but the forty nine of the seventy four. After
dealing with all the injuries that they've had, Kyle still
having the right.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Funny thing about it is everybody's getting healthy at the
right time. Everybody getting healthy at the right time, and
they're gonna hit their stride at the right time. We're
going into We're going to the We're going into the
in December.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Hunk coming up?
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Uh wait we in November?
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Are we? No? Oh yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Per perfect timing, perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Oh. Joe jakobra Verse started his fifth game. He completed uhift,
that's a record to the forty seven completions are the
most completions in a in an NFL game in regulation.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
That boy, hey, he dealing that thing, boy he dealing,
he dealing it is. It didn't come, It didn't come
with a win. But one thing by Jakobe he could
let he can slang that thing.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
The Eagles are the number one seed, eight and two,
the Rams number two seed eight and two, Chicago Bears
the number three seeds seventy three. Tampa would round out
the division winners at sixty four, and then you have
the Seahawks at seventy three to fifth seed green Bay
at sixty three and one the sixth seed. The forty
nine Ers are seven and four, the seventh seed. Right now,
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Detroit would be on the outside looking in, as would
the Panthers, Vikings, Cowboys, Arizona and Atlanta Commanders and the Saints.
So right now, the Detroit Lions are the eight seeds geezh.
But the forty nine ers are getting healthy show at
(59:45):
the right right, right time. K
The Patriots looked awful, impressive. They beat the Jets twenty
seven fourteen. I don't know they looked impressive. The Jets
aren't good, but the Patriots look good. I mean those
first couple of drives. Drake May was with Brady esque.
I'm talking about christ Yes here, nice, Stefan Diggs, bill
and reinvigorated. He looks good. Trevy Henderson is running extremely hard.
(00:28):
Two touchdowns on the ground, one in the air. Drake
made twenty five or thirty four, two eighty one one touchdowns.
I thought overall, I thought they played well. But who
let's let's let's before we get to the Jets, let's
highlight the Patriots. Oh, Joe, yeah, Okay, okay, Mike Brabel
has done an unbelievable job. You go, i'ma let you
(00:49):
go head. Hell of a job, hell of a job. Listen,
Mike Rabel.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm not sure what he did once he got there,
but he's done one hell of a job. Obviously, it
makes things much easier when you have a quarterback that's
playing out of his mind and only his second year
in Drake May in the division. They three and oh.
Obviously the talk has always been the Super the supposed
to go to the Super Bowl. This is their year,
the Buffalo Bills. They're two and two in the division.
(01:13):
The goddamn the Patriots have dominated all season long, being
ninety two. This is something I wasn't expecting, being being
the fan of the game of football that I am,
I didn't think they would be this good.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
They have been really, really well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And because of the quarterback play, obviously, the supporting cast
defense is played well. Stefan Diggs is playing out of
his mind. He's playing out of his mind even playing
very very good football. Mac Collins out there making plays,
Douglas doing well, doing well as well. And Trayvon Henon
is it Trayvon Henderson?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Am I saying it right? Trayvon Henderson?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Trey Bion Man, listen, but young Bull, nice boy, young.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Young Bull is real, Young bull, real nice.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He's one of the few running backs to on the
on the on the field that can hit his head
off the goal post play with okay, he got he
got speed, got speed. So man, they look really good.
They look really good tonight man. And on defense, that
got a that god damn Christian Gonzales.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
He nice, oh he he fluid? Hey listen. He nice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He needs I know he's been injured a little bit,
but he needs to be in the conversation of top
five dbs.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Especially Oh yeah, yeah he is. I mean you know
PS PS two, Stingley Jr. Him, Yeah, you know, those
those are those are your top I guess people like Warn,
some people like J. C. Horn, But I think I
think Gonzale, I think PS two, and I think uh
Stingley Jr. I think those are the top three corners
(02:38):
in my book because they all putenty very very different. Now,
Gonzales and and PS two kind of they got kind
of similar body types. Their tall angular uh Stingley is
a little bit more compact, probably a little bit a
little more, a little because a little probably a little
stronger because of the way he the way he's built.
But if you look at the way as two and
(03:00):
the way he glides, he and Gonzales have a very
very similar game. Yeah yeah, trivia on Hennessy A had
two Russian one in there. Uh one yeah, yeah, threw
him one. Uh but yeah, this is this is oh Joe,
this is a very good team. They're very well coached.
And now you see why that after one year mister
crafts like you know what, Gerard, I really hate to
(03:22):
pull the plug this quick, but this coach is proven,
uh and it's too good to pass up. And if
we don't do this now, there's a good.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Be going somewhere else. Yeah, he'd be going somewhere.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Else because if you think about it, The Falcons interviewed
Mike Brabel, Mike McDonald at Seattle. They interviewed like more
guys that are doing extremely well right now, and it's
settled on the Rightheek Corse and Rahi. He's gonna have
to get this thing. He's gonna have to get this
thing turned around. But just watching New England, they don't
(03:55):
beat themselves. I know, you know, Raber doesn't really mention
the whole lot, but I think he took a whole
lot playing under coach Belichick. The man of rhythm. Now
he's not a he's not his stoic on the sideline.
He's waiting to give his guys high five. Coming off
the field. He's waiting to hug his guys. You watch
him in the hallway, Ojoe, when they're coming off the
field after Big Rick victory. He's hugging everybody. Hey, come on,
(04:16):
get in here, come on, let's go. Let's He's a
guy I would love to play for. He's the type
of guy that you love, you love to play for,
because he ain't gona sugarcoat it now. Oh Joe, you
know exactly where you staying with Mike Rabel, Yes, sir, O.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Joy, take you time, take it time.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I tweeted a little bit, but I just say I
just stopped tweeting because people, you know, I think, like man,
you pick it on the guy. But at some point
in time, O Joe, I'm not so sure Justin Fields
is gonna ever be what a lot of people thought
he would become, O Joe, let me give you some
of these stats. He was three four eleven he got
injured in the fourth quarter for twenty seven yards. Yeah,
(05:00):
he played the entire game. In the first goals, he
was nine or seventeen for forty five yards. He played
the entire game. Against the Carolina Panthers, he was six
or twelve for forty six yards and lost to Cleveland.
He was six of eleven for fifty four yards and
forty two of your those yards came on a screenplay
screen battor tonight. Yeah, before the final drive he had
(05:23):
seventy five yards passing. Yes, sir, I think ad Mitchell
left his hands in Indy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Hey, oh listen, listen now. Now he ended the game
with seventy five yards, right, No.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
He had one hundred to sixteen. But before that, before
that final drive, he got forty one of the one sixteen. Right.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So one of the things that I do want to
say before before we pile on justin field, I want
I want to talk about some of the drop passes
Ady Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Two big plays.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They played two big plays in the first half before half.
You got the haddos you got back. Yeah, it's oh man,
you got to have that. It's perfect though outside show
away from the you got to have that's that's perfect
red line. You pull that in. Then the wheel route
down up, you know, adjust yourself, slow down a little bit,
(06:19):
you know, perfect perfect ball outside shoulder DV has no
way to make a play, had no way to make
a plan.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You've got to have that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So though those are those are passes that you got
to help your quarterback out some time. You got to
help your quarterback. And that's why the stats looked like
look the way they look. Sometimes they dropped past he had.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
He had a couple of drops. But there was a couple.
O Joe, he had ad a d probably would have
dropped it, but he had him. He had him on
the head. That's a simple pitching kid.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh he threw a wy he threw a.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You put that on that, because here's the thing, the
dB is probably retreating. You put that on him. Now,
going to face you up. There's a chance I can
make you miss at least at least I caught it
at five and bare minimum. Moo, I'm gonna get a
first down. I might make you missing. Yet even more,
I'm like, justin to start the game. You can't because
(07:12):
what do we always say, Oh, Joe, give me something.
I just want to get my hand. I just want
to touch the ball. Let me touch it. Give me
nothing sophisticated. Just let me catch you here, let me
catch a step, let me catch a shallow cross. I
just want to touch the ball. You give it to
me early? You got me late? Yeah? Justin? How how
on a on a on a five yard hitch route?
You miss A got that far outside?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Mm hmm and listen. And that that goes for the
quarterback too. Most of the time, some quarterbacks they don't
want to come out with anything want they want something short.
They want a nice little check down to get themselves
in a rhythm, you know, to get a feeling for
the game and not not really chase the game, but
allow the game to come to them. And and that's
that's what you want. You want to slant, you want
to hit, you want some want something you know short.
(07:56):
But I think I think right now, I'm not sure
we as bad as the Jets are, everyone around justin
fields has to be almost they have to. Yeah, they
have to raise their level of play. They got to
raise their level of play to catch up or to
make sure they can overcome for Justine's mistakes or his
lack of confidence. Right now, you have to that that's
(08:18):
what you need. You need that kind of dog out there.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And he didn't. He didn't play to night. I think
I think Gary I r right now.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So he's gonna he's gonna miss the next now three
gamester after the night and and the boy, they got
the musterd up, they got the mustard up. You know
those that are there, John John Michie made some made
some plays. John Messy, I'm sorry, I might apologize Meshi.
He made some plays tonight, tight end, you know, little
chuck down play.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But that's yeah, you gotta have that catch, that tied
end on the fourth down. You gotta hold that one.
You got the first down then, and you're getting hard
because you take it so long. Toplit the ball to you.
The guys bring it in. He knocked it down.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But outside of that, man, listen, the gest that they
if they didn't play.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That bad, they didn't. They really just couldn't get off
the field in that first half. Oh jhoe. They couldn't
get off the field. I mean, they get him in third,
they get him in thirty four, thirty five, they get
a first down, they get him in thirty ten, they
get a first down. They just could not get off
the field. And and I'm like, okay, they rushed three,
they rush four, they bring pressure, and they still didn't
get there. I'm like, well, damn, how difficult. I mean, man,
(09:28):
how difficult is it? And you you're right? And I
think a lot of times the drops maybe that that
messes with with with Justin Field's confidence because he's like,
well am I doing something? What am I doing wrong?
Because he'll throw one terrible and then he'll drop a dime.
He'll throw two terrible and he'll throw another dime. He
had he had Ady Mitchell get him to go. He
had gone out as an ass with the ball. I
(09:48):
thought he's playing penn to table the donkey, I said,
with damn, he comes out in the ass. He was beat.
And that's the thing when you get a guy beat
down there. Oh Joe, you know you already struggling as
an offense. You can't miss what I tweeted. I said, Mitchell,
(10:10):
you're not that good offensively to Oh, you're not that
good of a team to overcome those kind of mistakes.
That's a draw. And they're not. And you're saying, Okay,
you get a guy like Justin Fields and he's struggling.
But they don't have the receivers. They don't have a
Chase or Jedle or one of these top flight receivers
that could over a couple of them. They need more
than one. They need a couple of a couple of
(10:32):
them that can elevate them. They and I just I
just it sucks. It sucks. It sucks.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And listen, not not only that they're not playing well,
they let two of the best players on d show.
Obviously you got you got players for them, so you
would hope those players that you got in the trade
can step up and and and and play the part.
And obviously it's it's eighty it's eighties, first week, this
is first Yeah, right, it's the first game.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is there? The first time he caught the path? Is there?
The first time he read a round? I mean, I
mean you say, no, matter where you go, wherever, you play.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right right right right right right, like I'm not listening,
I'm not making an excuse me for him.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You have to you have to make those plays. You
have to. You got to it with Justin fields out.
I'm excuse me, Garrett Wilson out. You're supposed to be
the best receiver because the cost, they had high expectations
until you got into Shane Steiken's dog outs with that fumble.
It was never the same after that. Now, maybe there
was something going on, maybe that was the final straw
that broke the Campbell's back on show, But from that
(11:35):
point on, it was the same. No, the same. But
I just don't know how you throw for twenty seven
yards in a game, you throw for forty five yards
in the game, you throw for forty six yards in
the game. You throw for fifty four yards in a game,
and you throw for one hundred and sixteen and forty
one of that came on the final drive. I just
(11:55):
don't know how you you move on and become and
become what people thought you were gonna become when they
took you at the top draft pick. Now, you know,
I think you were fifteen to sixteen something like that.
O Yoe, I just don't see the consistency. I don't
see I don't see him one two, check it down,
(12:17):
one two, three out of bounds, one two gone. I
don't see that. And you know, as a quarterback, the
really good ones, yes, backfoot hit. Okay, I'm dropping back.
I know the play, Oh Joe, I'm dropping back already.
I'm gone through it. Okay, we've gone through it through
the course of the week. Cover one we go here,
(12:38):
Cover two, we go there, Quarters we go here, Cover five,
we go there, Skott Siks, we already know. So when
you back it up, the sections already told you what
it's doue single high safety. I know I'm going right now.
Oh he's covered. Let me see what two is. It's
two there Okay, let me check this check down. Oh Joe. Yeah, see,
it seems like it's like he got a dial up service.
(12:59):
He ain't got that. By g they say they got something,
they got TIMG off in China, say hey, you cut
the bone on. They already gone to what you're looking for. Yeah, yeah,
most definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I think the fact that also with the offensive line
not not playing as well as they should be, he's
rushing everything a little bit, not being able to go
through his progression and understand listen, pre snap. Okay, I'm
seeing what they're doing. And once that ball snaps, you
know obviously you want you want that. You want that
head straight down the field, not giving anything away and
(13:28):
not having the time to be able to go through
his read and progression. I think he speeds things up
and hurry's throws. He rushes throws to Herbie, getting the
ball out of his hands too.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah. I mean, okay, I'm looking at against Buffalo, he
averaged two point five yards of the temp against the Broncos,
two point six yards per attempt against Carolina, three point
eight yards per attempt against Cleveland four point nine yards attempt.
That's not even a running back average squat if he's
doing that, right, imagine if you're a quarterback and that's
(13:57):
what your yard forer Attemp did, that is horrible. Yeah, yeah,
it's bad.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But also you know, also, you know what else, It
also comes down to the weapons around you. It also
it also comes down to what do you have, what
is your supporting cast? Like, now you take a Justin
Fields here hypothetically speaking, right, So you keep the same
offense and you put a Jamar Chase, So you put
a Justin Jefferson, you put a T. Higgins, or you
(14:24):
put any of the top tier, top tier receivers on
that team together. Yeah, no one in one or one,
a one in a one or a decent a decent one. Yeah, hey,
it looks completely different because they can overcome for all
the woes that Justin Fields may be having, they can
overcome all that the small stuff. You got Jamar Chase
(14:46):
crazy as you could take a goddamn slant and the
goddamn hitch eighty yards. You got T Higgins. Any ball
you throw to him, which was considered for most receivers
fifty to fifty. Hell with him, it's ninety ten. Like
small stuff like that, where you have players that that
can elevate their play to overcome for your your shortcomings.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It makes things easier. But they just don't have that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Therefore, everybody else has to raise the level to play
and damn it be perfect.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But and that that's the issue. That's the issue. They
have to look at the guys that you just mentioned,
they had their best seasons. If you think about it,
what do the guys do really well? Process information really
really quickly? Oh yeah, go back and look at Joe. Now,
go back and look at Joe Flacco. It doesn't even
look like Chase is falling off because Joe Flacco backfoot here.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I'm going to it as cousins are, Sam Donald, You
couldn't tell who's in there with Jella because they process
information quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You That is the number one thing. How well do
you download information? And how quickly can you disseminate it?
I don't care, I don't care what you got, I
don't care what I gotta leg you got? Can you? Hey?
If I put that information on Joe, how soon can
you spit it back out? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And the funny thing about it is not only being
able to process it, not only being able to spit
it out but you know, it makes it even easier
the motherfucker you throw on to on the other but easier.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But see, now you got me. Okay, I run a
hitch route, Now you gonna got me. Well do I
need to slide? Do I need to slide? Because I'm
anticipating because I don't know where it's gonna be. I know,
normally I'm gonna get a hitch. I will get it
in the framework of my body, Ojo. Because he's not
gonna be under pressure because it's one, two, three, boom
balls out, so he's not gonna be up under pressure.
(16:41):
So I think I'm gonna get the ball somewhere in here,
here here, not out here. Yeah. Yeah, So it makes
it difficult. It's like sometimes when you're dealing with a
mobile quarterback, it's hard to adjust to them, Ojoe, because
I run my route and next thing I know, he
well in the crowd screaming. I was like, damn, what happened?
(17:01):
He way over there? I'm like, what damn? So it's
hard when your quarterback is inconsistent. I don't give a
damn what the receiver is. You want some consistency at
that that that position, but you want somebody that can
digest information. The coach put the put it in and
he spit it right back out in the form of
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getting the ball out of his hand. I hope I'm wrong.
I pray I'm wrong, But I just don't know if
he's ever gonna be what many thought he would be,
especially when you look at the game that he had
against who did you play against Clemson? You look at
that game and he had against Clemson, and he was sensational. Yeah,
and and and I was like, okay, now playing with
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those guys that he had alive and Garrett Wilson and
all those guys, we understand, see see, But you didn't
realize once you get to the NFL, the likelihood of
you having five receivers that are five stars or be
that type of guy that the likelihood is not very good. Yeah.
Does he have a Chase? No? Does he have a Jetta?
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Does he have any of the top top receivers? No?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, What I will say, now, what I will say,
he does have Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now, Garrett Wilson, who was who had a phenomenal who
had a phenomenal rookie year with.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Facts that if you look at him o Joe. If
you look at him, if you just put him on
paper and you say, look at what was throwing the
Garrett Wilson when he won Offensive Rookie of the Year,
and you look at what's throwing the Garrett Wilson. Now,
if you just look over just hey, you're like man
with Justin Fields. He about to go crack and he
played with him in college.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I mean I mean, listen, judge,
Garrett Wilson is a phenomenal talent. Nothing should taper off
when you have a talent like that. It's so easy
when you look at what they're able to do with
Devonte Adams and and pooping the cop hell JSN And
obviously I don't think the Jets off is a cour
and there that has that kind of creativity to.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Put in you and Justin Justin Field to use.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Garrett Wilson in the right type of way to create
those mismatches like the other team.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I can give you all the nice ingredients, I won't,
but if you don can't cook, what the hell have
I done? I spent a whole lot of money on
going great food, great ingredients, and I know you can't
make a dish with it. It comes down to it.
O't Joe, You're really good. Go look at Chopped and
the Iron Chef and they give these they get these people. Okay,
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I'm gonna give you chocolate. I'm gonna give you onions.
I'm gonna give you stone crabs. And I'm like, how
did you even think of this? Yes? But you give somebody,
you give them. Oh, okay, I'm gonna give you steak.
I'm gonna give you this. I'm gonna give you that.
You're like, what I'm what I'm supposed to make. I
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just I hope I'm wrong, Chat, I really do, but
I just I just seeing him and I watched him. Now,
this man has gone through three head coaches and probably
be four offensive coordinators. And I'm not and and and
and and and Sometimes you get lucky and you get
to you get a Sean mcvail, or you get a
Kyle shan a hand But I just don't. I just
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don't know it, because at the end of the day,
the quarterback position is all about processing information and spitting
in the back out. That's what it comes down to.
It is. I mean, I don't care how good, how
big your arm is I don't care how fast your
legs are. Can you process it? O choe mm hmm,
because that's that's a whole different all okay, because not
only was you process you gotta realize they got they
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got fired that on most occasions they got four guys.
That's really trying to tear your damn head off. Oh
so you got you in fear for your life. But
also you gotta calm yourself down and says, you know what,
one to check down, one to throw it out of bounds,
one to if that I'm out. Yeah m hm, it's
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all it's all about that clock. Maybe maybe maybe put
him in, maybe put him in hurry up the game,
because it seems like, you know, when he's in hurry up,
he's better. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't bumble.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, I mean listen that that's on the that's on
the center too, that's on the city. Come on, now,
that's the NFL. Now put the put put the snap
at the mid It should be the snap. The snap
should come in the same area every single time you
go through your dog got I mean, like, come on now,
come on center.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Don't don't a little do that. Don't do that a
little man. The ball hit it. The ball hit his ankles.
But you know what, it's just that, you know, take that,
take that, Take that away. They got three points out
of there. Give the defense credit because I thought the
defense gave up one touchdowns and two field goals in
the second half. Yeah, they did force the three and
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out on on the on the first possession of the
second half, which is cool to uh, you know, you see,
I think the Jets won the toss and they took
the ball. They drove the ball right down the field,
something they don't normally don't do. Uh. It normally ends
in a punt or or turnover. And they drove the ball.
I think they had the ball like fourteen plays and
drove the ball and punched it in the end zone.
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But I just, Lord, I hope I'm wrong, but I
just I just I just don't see where he's ever
gonna be more than what he is. I don't think
he's ever gonna be turning to what and and that's what.
And that's okay because everybody ain't gonna be a Lamar Jackson.
Everybody's not gonna be Josh Allon or Patrick Mahome. But
I mean, I think if the jets could be okay,
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if he was just like middle of the road, you
just can't be You can't be the bottom tier. I'm
not saying you got to be top tier, but I mean,
if we got that kind of if we got Chad
and you can see this, if we got this much face,
can you be somewhere in here and not be down
here in the middle, right? Can we get that o Joe?
Mm hmm. And you know it all? You know what else?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It all com to, not only all not only all
the intangibles and all the all the nuances that we're
talking about. But unless you got confidence, ain't nothing happening.
You got to be able to play with confidence. You
have to be able to play with confidence and and
everything that you do.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And one of the.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Most important positions quarter goddamn quarterbacks important, absolute, the most,
the most.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Because if you don't believe you your your your body language, yeah,
your aura is gonna say. If you don't believe, I
don't believe either. I mean, if you don't trust your skill,
why you won't me. That's why you used to get
in the car somebody built, but the seatbelt fast, the
seat belt hell I fast. In mind, you do something
(23:45):
I don't, so you can building you. I've been around
quarterbacks when they walk into the huddle, you know, they
do you the confidence that you know what the hell
you do it exactly, exactly exactly. Man. I hope, I
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hope they get it together.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm not sure what direction they're gonna go in, but
the way they've started so far and letting the soft
go and let go oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I
just wait listen, But who are gonna're gonna You're gonna
start it over with the court. Yeah, I believe you're
gonna start with You're gonna draft another one You're gonna draft,
I believe.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, I mean, I don't know if there's any any
quarterbacks that's gonna become available. Uh yeah, probably Sam Donald
didn't want any parts of New York again, which I
wouldn't blame it, you know. Uh, but look, I mean
every day seemed like I hear a story about somebody
that played there having an interaction with the owner, and
it's never positive and it's never good. Right yeah, and
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uh with that situation, I hope uh uh A g
gets at least three years because it's not like you
had the power for roster begin with. And now you
stripped them of his two best defensive players. So he
got to get at least two years, and without a quarterback,
you can give him five years and he's still not
gonna get it done cause you're not as hard. It's
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damn near impossible. And I know well y'all did it
in twenty two thousands with the Raid with Trent Dilferd.
They don't allow you to play football like that. You
don't play football like that anymore. The rules are different.
So no, there's nobody winning another Super Bowl like we
won it or like Tampa won it in two you're
not because they won't allow you to play defense like that.
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Your quarterback is gonna have to stand in the pocket
and he's gonna have to make plays throwing the f
and football. Yeah, he's gonna be able to use his
legs to get out of harm's ways some, but he's
gonna have to be able to throw the football. The
days of oh, we got a killer defense and we're
gonna run the ball. No you're not. No, No you're not,
you're not. You're not gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You're not gonna win very many games like that because
once the team gets ahead on you once the team
gets ahead on you ten fourteen points, and.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Who can't run your way back into a game? Absolutely
ask this, Oh, Joe, do you like Kyler Murray because
I believe that I believe there's gonna be a separation
of church and state in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Uh Huh, Yeah, most definitely, because I think Kyler Murray
is healthy. I think he got me personally. I think
he's healthy. But they're they're continuing to want to go
with j Kobe Brissett based on how he look and
how the offense moved with him, you know, the few
weeks he's been in. Uh, if they do part ways
with him, I'm sure Kyler Murray will be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Next year for sure. How would it look over in
New York? I'm not sure. I'm not sure if if
it's a fit.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It all depends on AG Obviously, outside of AG, you
you got to go to the higher powers and see
if that's all Yeah, they want to look into or
do you want to go into the draft?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
When you when you think about some of the quarterback
coming into the draft, you know this year, is there
a franchise altering quarterback that can come in there and
change a franchise. I haven't seen any anything like that
this year. There have been some that have played good,
but nothing that just blows you out the water, like
you know, with that.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Guy, we've got to have him. I agree. I haven't
seen that. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either,
o Jo. So we'll see how this plays out. The
Pittsburgh Staylors stay the top of the AFC North thanks
toward thirty four to twelve victory. Although Aaron Rodgers left
the game what many believed to be a crack at
(27:27):
a break at his wrist, Mason Rudolph came in finished
twelve or sixteen seven of the touchdown. He relieved Aaron Rodgers,
who was not a fifteen one sixteen at a touchdown.
They won thirty four to twelve. But that was not
the story of the game. Something happened late in the
ball game. Jalen Ramsey was ejected for punching T not
(27:51):
T Higgins, Jamar Chase in the face. They asked Chase,
excuse me, They asked Jalen Ramsey, what happened? Huh? Okay,
we got okay, Let's take a listen to what what
Ramsey said. After the game. He's spilled me, So it's up.
I'm gonna get football after that, respectfully. Okay, here's what
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Chase said. Walker.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Still, what happened with the Jim exchanging words?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Due you was saying that you spit on him? Did
you spin on him?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I ain't ever, I ain't never over in my mouth
to that time.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, what you so, what do you think proft the
reaction from him?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well, you don't like some of the words I told him.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We've been going back and forth the whole time, so
I'm sure some shiit, some got under this.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but y'all all good. We got we got we
got Austin break brisket, brisky, brisky, Austin brisky Fox nineteen.
He got it all on tape. Let's take a look
at this on Yoe. Yeah, Joe, that's your guy. I've
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met him a few times. I like Chase. He's the
best receiving football. But he's spilled on Jaalen Ramsey and
you know, and everybody knows. I've been abundantly clear where
I am the most disrespectful thing you can do. Yeah,
we know the ND word. We know the con the
connotations and what it summons. Up. But my boy, my
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grandfather used to always say, he said, boy, you don't
spit on if you you're telling me I on the ground,
that is the lowest thing you can do. Oh Joe,
he's spilled on that man and he lied, And Jayleen
Ramsey said, Jayalen Ramsey say, he's spit on me. So
it's up after that and football after that point, take
it away. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Y'all know how I feel about about you know, you
know how.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I feel about Jamar.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And you know I'm really critical of players, very really.
It takes a lot for me to be critical of someone.
But this is one of those situations where I got
to let Chase no, but you're dead wrong way. As
much as I love you, you can't do that. You
can't do that. You could be angry, you could be mad.
You can say what you want to say to a
player on the field, but you can't spit on nobody. Wrong,
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young bull, you can't spit on nobody. Obviously, you know,
cooler heads will prevail. But in those situations like that,
when you're angry, I know you're frustrated the game might
not be going your way. You're not getting the ball
the way you want to get the ball. You know
how these division games go. Situations like this happen all
the time, especially when it's Bengal Steelers. It's just like this.
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It's tight, it's tight. You get angry, you get frustrated.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
But you can't. You can't. You just can't.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You know, as much as I love you, I'm disappointed
obviously in your actions.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna talk to you. I haven't
had the chance today. You know, I ain't want to
bother you.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But if you look back, you think about it, you
probably won't be in this situation again. Knowing the NFL
and the way they disciplined, they'll probably suspend you for
a game, and you know it'll probably never happen again.
It probably never happened again. But to something you just
can't do, young Bull, You can't. You can't do this.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Just own it, just say you know my emotions, Hey, Jalen,
I'm sorry. My emotions got the best of me. When
emotions are high, logic is low. Ram I'm sorry I
let my emotions get the best of me. Y'all. I
was wrong. I was dead ass wrong for what I
did it's hard to do something now publicly, o yo,
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and nobody sees it because everybody got carings everywhere because
O yo. If they're having a conversation and you know, hey,
sometimes when I get excited, I have to man, I'm sorry,
I ain't mean to space. We've all done that. We
get excited, we started talking and we accidentally accidently spray them.
But that wasn't no spray, Ohoe. That was not no spray.
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That was not a spray. And he did it, and
he lied to reporters and he said, I ain't I
ain't open my mouth. You did Chase. You're wrong, bro,
You're wrong. And I know that's not what you did.
I'm not gonna define you by that, but you did that.
I don't believe in Ohoe that that that I s
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the worst thing that a person done. That is that
that's who we Now obviously we got repeat offenders. But
there's nothing in this history now, nothing in his background
that would suggest this is not hears. So I'm gonna
give him the benefit of the doubt. Now, the NFL,
they should they gotta sit you down. They got to
sit you down for a game. That's the least they
can do Jayalen Ramsey. You're gonna get fined a little fine,
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but they're not gonna suspend you because you because your
suspension was you got kicked out of the game. That
was your punishment, and you're gonna get fined. You'll probably
get fined I don't know, twelve twenty five thousand, something
like that. But Chase, you're gonna get suspended. And I
don't know why, Chase, I don't know. Oh cho, And
I've been mad with you. I know you've been mad
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at people. I've been mad at people I could but
just spit on somebody. Do you know how disrespectful, how
degrading that is as a black man? You, Chase, you
know the history of Louisiana in the South. That's what
they used to do to your grandpa, your great grandpa,
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your great grandma. Yeah, yeah, when they was trying to
integrate the schools. Come on, Chase, we gotta be better
than that. We can't do that to each other. I
get it. Yeah, we get upset, Yeah we get angry,
but come on, we gotta do better than that when
it comes to each other. For us, I might disagree
with something you said, I might not like what you said,
(33:59):
and like I said, he but I can't. I cannot
do that because what happens is, O Joe, if you
spit on somebody, whatever that individual does to you after that,
I'm good with. Yeah, if they whatever whatever. And if
you spit on somebody, and that go for family member
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or anybody. If you spit on somebody, whatever that person
does to you after that, Oh well, you're right, because,
O Joe, the thing is, you get to control your actions.
You don't get to control of the consequences that comes
from your act. You're right. I'm just I'm just disappointed
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because he would have been the last person I would
have thought, uh that would do something like this. Like
I said, I've been around them half for that, not
like you, O Joe, I don't like you, But he
was a you know, guys normally when they see me,
they respect for what's going on, how you do it,
blah blah blah. But man and dagn I mean and
then and I want and I want and I wanted
(35:03):
to believe because like I said, I've been around Ram
a little bit, but he not. I said, no, the
a little bit time I've been around him, and what
I seen him, you know we dealmed a couple of times.
He dons he honestly, you gotta think.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You got to think these boys, especially when they come
to Jalen, when when it comes to Uno. You know,
I'm around these fellas consistently all the time, you know,
whether whether it's working out, whether it's hanging out, whether
it's eating.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I hang out.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I hang out with Jalen when he's down, when he
was dying here in Miami. And obviously you know my
my my relationship with Chase, you know, since he got drafted.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Now that's that's.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Something even even even even even more close. And none
of these individuals are like that. But emotions get the
best of us. Sometimes sometimes we make mistakes. And I've
been in situations we mostly got the best of me,
and I've done things that are totally out of my character,
out of my character, it's totally uncharacteristic of who I
am and what I represent and everything that I stand for.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And I think this is one of those situations for Case.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
This is something that happened where obviously logic was low
because emotions were high.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I was upset, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Frustrated the game's not going well. Then they got them
trash talking to me. We going back and forth, and
it just it got the best of them. And I'm
really not the one that's old, that is in positions
to be the voice of reason. But I'm probably one
of the few people outside of family members that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
No will listen to.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
He will listen to and and and actually listen and
take heed to what I'm saying, because I've been in
situations where we're not that this magnitude, We're not thinking,
we're not thinking straight.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
You know, it can cost you. You know, now this
is gonna call them.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's not gonna call them, you know, as much as
it did for me for being in a situation.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Where my logical was low as hell.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Uh, I mean it was super low, and it cost
me a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Now this is just on small scale, still in a
very disrespectful manner. But that's why you're the perfect person
to speak on this, because you've been in a similar
situation where emotion was high, proget was low. And sometimes
when the situation like that, we let our motion get
the best of us. And that's not who we are.
But in that moment, just for a second, you threw
caution to the wind. We've all been there, and my
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thing is, Chase, you didn't have to lie. All we
would have looked. Everybody's gonna look at you a certain way.
But Jay say, you know what all you had to
do is say, Ram, I'm sorry. You should have went a.
You should have made peace with that man A. Y'all
get me Rams. No, I'm gonna call him. I want
to call him and tell him as a man. I said, Bro,
I won't tell the world that I did. I was wrong,
(37:36):
I was dead ass, but I wanted to tell you
first man the man. Ram, I'm sorry, Bro, that ain't me. Bro.
You know me, that ain't me. We're both competitors. You're
fighting your ass off of your team. I'm fighting my
ass off for my team, and my emotions got the
best of me. Ram, I'm sorry, Bro, Man. I really
hope you forgive me because I don't want your family.
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I don't want your family to look at me in
that life, and I don't want my family to look
at me in that light to know that I did
something like that, because I know my family would be
very disappointing in me. So I'm coming to you as
a man, but I'm gonna tell the world I did
what I did. I did, and I want to apologize
to you as a man of got him in the tunnel.
(38:18):
I went to the tune. I said, bro, Hey, I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go. Look, I'm gonna do my
press conference, but I'm gonna find Ram and say I'm sorry.
I would have and I think he will and hey,
that's between him and Ram. I don't have to know
about everybody tell me about well he did it, but nah,
noah good. Just apologize to the man and we're gonna
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keep on moving. But just no man to oh Joe.
They ain't like when you and I first got in
the league. They got a couple of cameras. Bro They
catching everything. They catch everything, And that's why you see
guys cover their mouth when they talk to one another,
O Joe, because guess what people try to read lips.
Y'all tried to read exactly what O Joe and I
talking about. Man, it seems like he said, remember when
Jaylen Brown was on the side line and he and
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his girl and they was talking about Brody.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, on the on the side Yeah, I
remember that.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, they did read his lips. That's right, that's right.
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I remember that exactly, exactly exactly, and we were gonna
we're gonna get this the situation rightified though, We're gona
we're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It regular fied. I know, I know. Look, but let
me show you question O Joe. The league gotta step
in because we we and it happened. I mean, but
to see, I mean what I think this is the
second or the third time that this has happened this year. Yeah,
we had with the Jaalen Carter. We wanted the uh
that I think there was another situation.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm not sure it was college college. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
But listen, the league is gonna gonna step in. They're
gonna obviously discipline them. It probably it probably probably one
game suspension. I didn't I didn't.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I didn't call it. I didn't call you know, the night.
I don't call him the Knight. Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
He got enough to deal with as it is. You know,
coming off a loss, I left, I allowed twenty four
hours to go by. So tomorrow, you know, I gotta
fight to New York tomorrow. So when I fly to
New York, I'm gonna take that time out. Being that
this is this is off day. I'm sure, they're probably
going to watch film and I'm gonna catch up later
on and even and uh, and just just just talk
to him, just just talk to him a little bit
about you know, being able to to use logic even
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in situations where when you're when you're not in your
right state of mind, because at times it getting cost you.
And I'm the perfect example of not using your your
your mind and the right state of mind. And it's
not gonna cost you big this time, but it cought
from my whole career, you know. So, so using that
example with him in a small situation which was extremely disrespectful,
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you know, will be perfect because.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I'm just I'm a prime example. Yeah, oh, Joe, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
I told you before we were going we're going off
the uh the begum game already.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
What you want to talk about? Listen? Uh, Brother Darnell Washington.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
The way, Hey, hey, he pissed me off man, he's
are you supposed to be playing with the goddamn Nicks
or something?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Hey, yo, Actually he's supposed to have a seventy number.
He's supposed to be off here of the tackle, hey boy,
of joking six seven because he got a job. Yeah,
you see how you respectful? I'm like, why are you
pushing on people like that? Why are you at tight end? Hey?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hey, hey hey, Donald Washington, boy, you was balling out
to night all Stealer fans.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
For those of you that are in the chat, you
know how I feel about you. I love you.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I've always been respectful and shown sportsmanship, and I've shown grace.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Well be one of whether we lost. I was always respectful.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
But Donette Washington, what you did to my teammates, I
have to avenge them. So whenever I see you in
public and offseason, you just know we're gonna squabble, We're
gonna square up, and we're gonna fight. But boy, you
had a hell of a game. Boy, you had a
hell of a game. Salute to y'all steal A fan.
Congratulations on your winter day.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I love y'all. Y'all got it. I hope Aaron Rodgers
is okay.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
If he's not okay, I think it's his non throwing hand.
I think something in this rest is non throwing him
that might be broke. Aaron Rodgers, do me a small favor.
Put you a hard cast on. Now, put your hard
cast on now, and let's play ball next week. Now,
let's play ball next week. We could play with that,
whether it's a small break, a little break or I don't.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Know why you're talking about our team. Why are you
talking about our team? You not even a Steeler? Well,
I'm saying that's not me. They're in the North.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
So I feel compelled to be able to sow the
rate my team hold on. Listen, I feel compelled to
support them because my team is out right now.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
That's all, Oh your TV do they told you that,
don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Don't do that because they told you don't do that.
Because if if we won the day, if we had
won the game today, we would have had a chance.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But I told you you weren't going to win. I
told you you're gonna lose your legs. I told you
how many games, chant how many times? How many times
do y'all hear me telling O Joe, y'all about to
lose out? And although the window is open, Joe Burrow
is back at practice a little head of schedule day
the twenty one day windows open. He ain't coming back
come back from what It's so good, it's all good.
(43:14):
It's all good. It's all good. In a battle of
seven two teams that would give the winners so oppositionion
the first place in the NFC West, Sam Donald threw
one two, three, four I iNTS, no touchdown passes, and
Seattle lost twenty one to nineteen to the Rams. Donald
(43:38):
delivered his worst performance of the season. The Seahawks in
a week eleven, NFL's third highest scoring team despite sixteen turnovers,
including ten by Donald, which is tied for the second most.
But they couldn't survive four more giveaways today. Yo, have
(43:58):
you lost any faith at four two seventy nine zero
touchdowns for.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I n T's absolutely not no no faith at all.
Listen the fact that you do for for for I
n TS they only lost twenty one Wait, they only
lost what twenty one nineteen? I only lost twenty one nineteen? Okay,
Sam done. You had a bad day. You had a bad,
bad day. You've been playing great, You've been playing great
all season long. You know, quarterbacks won't have games like this.
(44:25):
Quarterbacks are going to have games like this, and this
is your one. Let's get it out of our system. Now,
let's get it out of our system. Now, you know,
and going forward, let's get back to the regular schedule program.
On how we've been flowing offensively, very smooth. You've been
running the ball through the air.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
We've been great.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, him and him and Jackson had another good day
today and Jae what I think Jigber had what nine
for one oh six? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nine one five.
You look good in that area. And I think if you,
if you he just going head huper crazy, dude gonna
get two thousand eight, he will he play? He had twelve,
(45:03):
he had too, hold on, they got seven games to go.
He's at twelve hundred. Over twelve hundred now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
And the funny thing about it, how many yards? How
many yards does the js an half?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
He hit the thousand yard mark I think last week
a week before last.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, he over had he got eleven forty six,
So he had he needs he needs. So he's uh
in seventy seventy two or seventy seventy two catches, So
he's averaging seven catches a game, damn.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And he gonna have about two or three games he
go crazy though. So he definitely the.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Game last week when they were blowing everybody out and
he came out. That was a game. He need games
like where they're close and they're going back and forth.
So that way he gonna be in there and he'll
get a he'll get a ten twelve thirteen fourteen catch
game one eighty five, two hundred, because you gotta have
you need, you need one game where you get to
yea two fifteen to twenty year because uh, I think
(46:11):
that was the year that Megatron, with that year of
Mega Tron broke that record when he had that three
twenty nine. Remember he had the three twenty nine against
the Calage and then he needed three twenty nine. He
needed eight yards, No, he needed ten yards. Eleven yards Yeah,
yeah to break Flip because Flip got Oh think well Flip.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Got three thirty six. Yeah, Flipp Anderson, Yeah, three thirty six.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
That's the record. So I was like, damn, he gonna
get to he gonna get the rest out of yards
that thing. Bill, we're crazy on the Saints on that
Sunday night. Hey, that's a lot of yards, man. Shoot,
who who I play? I actually I play.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Remember he came Julio had against the Carolina Panthers. He
had three hundred. That's crazy flipperedders. Yeah, oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Flip Flip only came Flip came out. Uh in eighty
in eighty eight, Flip came out. He came out with
my brother. He came up my brother because it was Tim,
my brother, Mike Irvin, Uh, Aaron Cox, Anthony Miller, Flipper Anderson,
(47:26):
Pharrell Levman's was a tight end drafted. Uh. Keith Jackson
Old Nelly from Oklahoma was a tight end that was drafted. Yeah,
he came up with my brother's second round pick. Yeah,
Aaron Coss with Aaron Coss was the first round pick.
But look, Matthew Stafford again two touchdowns, no interceptions. Now
(47:49):
he has how many touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Is Aaron twenty seven seven and two?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Now? I think?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Asked Ash if I'm right, yeah, twenty seventy two.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah, he's gonna win the m v P.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, damn unless Jonathan Taylor come out and have two
lets Jonathan Taylor go ahead crazy and he's still can.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Because he's a threat to get two hundred. Hey, would
I be surprised if he got two hundred? Had two
two more two hundred? Your games? No? One ninety?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Stafford every won MVP before, No huh.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Never, Yeah, they he finished, gonna get to him. I
think they said he finished. He got one vote, he
finished eighth was the best he's finished. And you know
it's funny.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
But remember Stafford with that was hurt all training camp.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Uh huh he's back? Yeah, oh uh? Did didn't he
sign the deal this offseason? Then he got to sign
a three year deal for like one hundred and something.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Hey, I think I think he preserved. I think he
preserved that arm from training camp.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, now he could play. I mean he's a great guy.
Having met the guy his wife two year eighty four,
so forty two, that's good. Funny, Give me a tack
on another year. If I went to the MVP, tack
on another year eighty guarantee. Yeah, but uh they're doing
(49:34):
it man. The Rams, he was good. But I remember
having this conversation. I said, Joe, uh, and we're gonna
talk about the Packers here on the second. But I
was like, are we sure? Are we sure? Even with
micaeh the Packers are better than the Rams? Are we sure?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
And and I I was one that's stood on the
table for the Packers that they're better.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Or just as good.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
If Jordan Love is playing football the right way. If
he's playing the quarterback position the way I know he
can play it. If he's not, then is looking it's
looking shady, it's looking ugly. But if he played the
way I know he can play, to me, it is
damn thear Even.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
The Packers pulled off a twenty pulled out a twenty
seven twenty win over the Giants. George Love overcome, his soul,
showed the injury. Somebody forgot to tell him he's not
Dereck Henry shouldn't be. But anyway, after scoring just twenty
points combined in their previous two games lost against the
Panthers and the Eagles sixteen thirteen lost to the Panthers
ten to seven, lost to the Eagles, the Panthers hit
(50:40):
their magic number of twenty seven. They've scored exactly twenty
seven points, not a point more, not a point less
than five of the six wins this season to improve
to six three and one. Jeordan Love thirteen to twenty
four one seventy four to two touchdowns. Then it run
the ball, rob On Romeo, work force, are thy hands Romeo?
(51:03):
Uh Christian Watson came up big today, had a big
time catch a big time tough. That was really the
difference in the ball game. And then Michael Parkson's coat
closed it out with a strip sack that ended it.
He ended up having a sack and a half. Je
Just a lot of people are gonna say, James through interception,
(51:27):
that's on Jaylen Hoyatt. You cannot stop. He stopped yet,
Oh Joe, if you got an outbreaking round, I don't
give a damn If the corner is outside you, you
can't pull up because the corner is not there, because
the cornerback is throwing it on anticipation. He don't know
that you're gonna pull up, so he's throwing it where
(51:48):
he anticipated you to be. You can't do that. You
can do that? Oh my goodness, d this why Chad, Now,
y'all see why. That's that's a teaching lesson. That's why
you should be coaching. I ain't got to teach you that.
You know that you can't pull up on a damn route.
You gotta know that you can't.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
You can't allow the body of the person there to
deter you from getting to your position. If anything, if
you got the corner route and he's already sitting out there.
You want to beat him to the punch, beat him
to the position, put your body, put your body in
between the ball and him. If he knocks iak either
if he knocks it down or you make a play
on it, one or the other.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
But you can't, you can't pull up. Guess what and
when I knock it down, guess what I'm gonna do?
O Joe? Yeah, straight out.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, either way, you got to give yourself a chance,
and that in that situation you got to get You
got to give your quarterback a chance. You got to
help your quarterback out there.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Oh my goodness, these guys, bro, I see so many
guys all the time, Ojoe. The guy's running. The guy's
running an and breaking route with the guys inside. He
pulled up like the quarterback. You're like, oh, he gonna
pull up because the guys in there. You gotta go
get it, collide him. You gotta break that up, because
if you don't, it's gonna be a pegget, which it was.
(53:06):
I'm like, Jeorge, have mercy. I mean, listen, Jamos. What
was Jamos today? Jamis was nineteen or twenty nine, two
oh one one touchdown. He was sacked twice. Tracy ran
Hard in the absence of Skataboo nineteen carries eighty eight yards.
Singletary had sixteen for forty four thirty eight rush attempts
one hundred and forty two yards and them head coach
Mike Kafka claimed closed but was unable to get a win.
(53:31):
But Jordan Love was thirteen or twenty four one's seventy
four two touchdowns. Josh Jacobs was injured in this game
and did not return, So that's an injury that we're
probably gonna need to pay attention to and to see
how that how serious that injury is. Barris beat the
vike Ins nineteen seventeen with a game ending field goal
(53:52):
set up by Devon Devin DuVernay a fifty six yard
kickoff return JJ McCarthy inaccuracy Dunes the Viking. Karthy completed
sixteen to thirty two passes four one hundred and fifty
yards a touchdown, but he had two interceptions. Most of
his past attempts were affected by pressure. The Bears blenched
on fewer than forty percent of the snaps, and the
(54:13):
four man rush only reached JJ three or nineteen snaps.
Yeah show JJ McCarthy sixteen to thirty two, what fifty mentioned?
What touchdowns? Two interceptions? He wasn't sack but he didn't
not good. Uh. Jefferson had five catches sixty one yards.
Hawkinson was three for thirty nine, Addison was two for twenty.
Naylor won a sixteen but he did catch a touchdown.
(54:36):
They didn't run the ball. Chicago says, you know what,
we're gonna see if you can do. They repaid returned
the favor. Remember the first game it was Ah McCarthy
that game winning drive. They ended up beating the Bears.
Kayler Williams is getting more and more comfortable. He had
sixteen to thirty two, one ninety three. He didn't throw
a touchdown and didn't have an interception. He had had
(54:58):
a fumber, but it was recovered. They read the ball
thirty nine times for a bluck forty nothing outstanding, but man,
he hard to get. Look, they got to sack Zony.
They probably should have had it about five or six times.
How we get even about it? Dickam sometimes getting out
of there.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Hey, listen, one of the few quarterbacks in the NFL
unk that can extend plays.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
He can playoff script.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
You know, and obviously when a players call, he's one
of those when the play breaks down, he can make
something out of nothing. He can make something out of
out of nothing. And you add, you add that talent
that he already has. You know, their capability, the ability
to extend plays with the creativity of Ben Johnson. Listen,
it's a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
There's a reason.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Why they are where they are. There's a reason why
their record looks like it looks. And I understood what
would happen when you get up, when you get ahead
coach like Ben Johnson, and you put them with a
talent like Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
There's a reason why they're having success this year.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
He's done very well, not turning the ball low, he'd
not turnover prone as opposed to how he was last year.
And they playing well. Oh Joe, if I'm not mistaking
the Bears in first place in.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
At the y. Yeah, how you know? Because the Lions
lost the night The Lands are six and forty's seventy three.
What did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Who are the two teams I told you to watch
out for before the season started when I talked to
you in August. The Bears and the Panthers. I told you,
I'm telling you, I know what I'm talking about when
it comes to this game of football. I know what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Rock Party were gon. We're gonna go to the forty nine.
Rock Party throw three touchdowns in his return from a
toe injury as the forty nine Ers cruise forty one
to twenty two over the sloppy Cards. Party completed nineteen
or twenty six passes for just two hundred yards, but
Christian McCaffrey extended his NFL record with his seventeenth career
game at least one running touchdown and they catching and
(56:54):
a receiving touchdown. The Cardinals were called for a franchise
record seventeen pounds these which was almost was the most
for any team in an NFL season This season, they
had eleven penalties in the first half, which was tied
for the most before halftime for any team over the
last twenty years. Jacobe Brissett started his fifth game oh Shoe.
(57:18):
He was forty seven to fifty seven, four fifty two touchdowns,
but he did have four interceptions. They didn't run the
ball of the cutting. He had two receivers Wilson fifteen catches,
eighty five yards. McBride ten one fifteen DERs six for
sixty six, So he was throwing it all over the plays,
(57:39):
but unfortunately those two turnover was undated. Rock Purty nineteen
to twenty six, two hundred yards, three touchdowns. McCaffrey had
thirteen carries eighty one yards, two touchdowns. Brian Robinson Junior
had eight for twenty four. Greg George kimm six catches
sixty seven yards, two touchdowns, Juwan Jennings four for fifty four,
Christian McCaffrey five for forty and a touchdown. Uh, don't
(58:05):
look but the forty nine of the seventy four. After
dealing with all the injuries that they've had, Kyle still
having the right.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Funny thing about it is everybody's getting healthy at the
right time. Everybody getting healthy at the right time, and
they're gonna hit their stride at the right time. We're
going into We're going to the We're going into the
in December.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Hunk coming up?
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Uh wait we in November?
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Are we? No? Oh yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Per perfect timing, perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Oh. Joe jakobra Verse started his fifth game. He completed uhift,
that's a record to the forty seven completions are the
most completions in a in an NFL game in regulation.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
That boy, hey, he dealing that thing, boy he dealing,
he dealing it is. It didn't come, It didn't come
with a win. But one thing by Jakobe he could
let he can slang that thing.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
The Eagles are the number one seed, eight and two,
the Rams number two seed eight and two, Chicago Bears
the number three seeds seventy three. Tampa would round out
the division winners at sixty four, and then you have
the Seahawks at seventy three to fifth seed green Bay
at sixty three and one the sixth seed. The forty
nine Ers are seven and four, the seventh seed. Right now,
(59:25):
Detroit would be on the outside looking in, as would
the Panthers, Vikings, Cowboys, Arizona and Atlanta Commanders and the Saints.
So right now, the Detroit Lions are the eight seeds geezh.
But the forty nine ers are getting healthy show at
(59:45):
the right right, right time. K
Host
Shannon Sharpe
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