BEST OF NFL Week 15 Part 2: Mahomes’ FUTURE & Grandpa Rivers STILL GOT IT!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Vikings go into Dallas and win by the score
of thirty four to twenty six. JJ McCarthy fifteen or
twenty four two fifty two touchdowns, one I n T.
Dakrescott was twenty three or thirty eight two ninety four,
no touchdowns, no interception.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
He was sacked twice. Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
They ran the ball twenty nine times for above thirty eight.
Javontay Williams a fifteen of ninety one for one touchdown.
Malik Davis had eight for twenty one and a touchdown.
Ceedee Lamb led the receiving corps six catches of buck eleven.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
There's a lot that.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Look, the Cowboys didn't really do a whole lot, especially defensively,
and Jerry Kemp trying to tell you this defense is
gonna be good and they're gonna beat this and that
they're not a very good football team. They're not a
very well put together football team, and it showed tonight.
The Vikings go in and you know, look, JJ McCarthy
has looked anything but spectacle. I mean, he's had there's

(01:00):
a spot here there, but he looked like a company
quarterback tonight against that poorest defense. O Joe, what'd you
like about what you thought from Minnesota?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Listen from Minnesota. I I like what I saw from
JJ McCarthy. Obviously, injuries, you know, stumped his career a
little bit. But and then obviously once he came back,
he didn't look up the par We questioned whether the
Vikings were right about allowing Sam Donald to get outside
of the house and go and go to Seattle. But
what we saw from JJ McCarthy was something that he
can build off of. He looked like a comedy quarterback.

(01:29):
He looked like a quarterback of the future. There's some throws,
there's some throws that I think he would want back
tonight that should have been completely Justine Jefferson again, chemistry, timing,
all that routine. I think they will continue to get
better at that, especially when they work together in the
off season. Outside of that, JAJ McCarthy looked good. He
looked good. I mean on the ground, they didn't do

(01:49):
really much. I mean Aaron Jones had twelve twelve or
thirty four. Hodginson looked pretty good. And outside of that,
the defense played extremely well, pressuring that getting him off
the spot. And I think for them, I think they're
gonna need JJ McCarthy to play good football, not turn
the ball over, and when he has opportunities to make throws,
he has to be as consistent as possible and allow

(02:12):
the defense to carry them the rest of the way through.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, I don't know. I think this season is over.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I don't see a pathway, a path for them getting
to the playoffs. Considering you looking out West, they got
three teams that have that already, I think, if I'm
not mistaken, already have I think the Lions, excuse me, Lions.
The Rams already have ten wins, maybe eleven. I think
they got ten wins. Seattle. San Francisco's right there. So
I don't see a path for them getting into the playoffs.

(02:37):
They're not I don't see them catching Green Bay and
could they possibly over elite frog the Lions. We don't know,
but it's gonna be hard for even the Lions to
make it given what we've seen thus far. Whether that
being said, O Joe, I agree with you. I thought
JJ McCarthy made some good throws. He overshot, he had
had a Jetta on a deep over he was wide open.

(02:59):
If he hits some astride, that's a touchdown. But then
he had Jedda ride opening the end zone, and Jedda
just let the ball get up on him and it
went right through his hands.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, listen, I hate when that happened. That never happened
to you. You're judging the ball, your hands are already
in place, but the.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Ball get Oh, he has some juice on it, Joe,
he had some juice on it.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, he let that one go. Hold on.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
There's another throw also. There's another throw also that should
have been a touchdown. It was a back shoulder. There
was a back shower Jedda. All he had to do
was hit him a little bit more, just aim at
that outside shoulder pad, aim at the outside shoulder pad.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
But he threw it way too far away.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
It wasn't even it wasn't even know where to catch up,
and that should have been touched that look.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I mean, he's basically a rookie quarterback, although he's in
the second year and he'll get better timing of how
to throw the back shoulder.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
That is an art. Everybody can't throw the back shoulder.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Everybody can't have that kind of chemistry like Aaron Rodgers
and Davante Adams had for so many years, and we
see Davante and Matthew Stafford picked right up where they
left off, that chemistry that Davante had with Aaron Rogers.
We're gonna talk about Davonte. He left this game. He
left the game with a hamstring injury that it looked

(04:06):
it didn't look good because he went down. It wasn't
like he grabbed and and and limped off. He went down.
He's like he shut it that completely down. So that
leaves you know that thing really grabbed. Hopefully he didn't.
He didn't pull it, Ojo. But we'll see, you know,
we'll give further confirmation tomorrow. But looking at the Cowboys, Ojoe,
this is a poorly constructed team. You're look at the
back end. It's not very good. They're not very good

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at all. They don't really have pass rushes, no one
that could you know, that can beat one on one covery,
that can get home consistently.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
You need somebody that came in consistently. Go ahead, o Joe.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
M I'm gonna say when you look at obviously that
there are three different levels. Obviously, and the second level,
the third level is the weakness for the Packers.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, I think I don't think the linebackers to the
middle of the backers. Oh Joe, they rotate. They got
Chick Murray and they got Logan the guy that you
got from you guys. I think his name is Logan Wilson.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Right. They're not good. They're not good.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Hold on, But that's that's why I was going with it.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I said that the second level, in the third level
would be the Key's Hill for them.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Obviously, on that front end they need.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I like, I like Kenny Clark, I like Quinn Williams,
I like I like them. I like what they showed
tonight and what they can do. But they need an
impact player on They need a player, someone that can,
damn there change the game and impact it. But the
hard part of it ain't another Michael Parsons out there.
There are only so many there are own, only so
many TJ. Watts, Michael Parson's, only so many Miles Garretts.

(05:33):
But if they can find someone decent who can who
can be an impact player that teams have to worry
about when you're playing against the Cowboys, it can change
things tremendously for them defensively.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, they haven't had an impact player. The last impact
player they really had. I'm talking about consistent Like look,
Diggs had an exceptional one year. He went to the
Pro Bowl. He's an All Pro. D ron Blad was
an All Pro had one year. But the true impact
player that was consistent gaming and game that you had
the game plan over years, it has been Micah Now
Michaels in Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Now he suffered an injury.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Many believe it's in ACL but we'll get for the
confirmation with an MRI I tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
O Chow.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
But it didn't look good because it looked like he
tried to change direction. A non contact injury. Anytime we
see non contact and the guy goes down to the
guy ground like that and he seems like he was
an excruciating pain. He knew something because he grabbed that
knee immediately. We'll get for the confirmation of what transpired.
But they don't have that type of guy and teams
that if you want to win, you've got to have

(06:30):
one of those guys. Preferably you like to have more
than one, but if you can get one, you can
have a pretty good you can have a pretty good defense.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
They don't have that.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Abra Flues is a guy that he doesn't like to
play man coverage. He's a cover too. He's a zone
defensive coordinator. At some point in times now see Cowboy fans,
y'all keep saying fire ebra flues. But when you had
Mike Nolan, fired Mike Nolan, When you had the guy
I think he's uh, you had.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
What's the guy name he was at Tampa?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Fire him, you had you had Zim, fire him, you fired?
At what point in time are you going to hold
these players accountable?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Y'all?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Don't ever want to hold it because you keep firing.
You fired everybody. Go back and look at every defensive coordinator.
The majority of the Cowboy fans have said fire them,
fire fire this guy. Fire that got fire this guy
and he used to be Detroit. He was the decordinator
for the Cowboys. But they got rid of him. They
got rid of Mike no when they got rid of Zim,

(07:32):
and they got rid of they just keep getting rid
of everybody. At some point in time, we got the
whole people accountable, and.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
You know, you know what else?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Onto I think people need to also understand and recognize
regards to who the coaches are.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Most of the time, coaching is one thing.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's one thing to have A bad coach's one thing
to have a great coach, but also personnel matters.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
What you have to work with also matters.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
If you don't have the players to be able to
run whatever scheme or taxes that you have and play,
those philosophy and ideologies from from from a game plan
perspective aren't gonna work. Regards to who's coaching, I mean,
I mean, coach coaching is good, it's a great thing
to have, but if you don't have the personality, you
don't have the players, uh, the special players at certain
positions to be able to to be able to do

(08:15):
some of the things you want to do defensively.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
It really doesn't matter who the goddamn coach is.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, it doesn't. It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I don't think the players are I mean they're okay,
but they're not like they're not. They're not game change,
they're not life saving, they're not.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I got to have that guy. I gotta have ooh boy,
I need him. They don't have one player on their defense.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I like Overshan. He's a speed guy. He can rehabit. Uh,
he's coming off an injury. I think next year he'll
be better.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Than he was this year. The Ravens my team be
o Cho's team.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
As a matter of fact, both of your teams lost
to Day and the Gumpies might get it tomorrow night too.
The Ramis beat the Bengals by this, going twenty four
to nothing. The Bengals, like they have been in the
previous years, have officially been eliminated from the playoffs. What's
new Water's wet Sky's blue gravity does exist?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Oh, that was a bad wait ahead?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
You mean I could have sworn.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I haven't given you enough information to have you have
an opinion on something just yet?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Can you just Joe Burrow was twenty five or thirty
nine to twenty five? Two? Not one?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Two iron ts one man coyvin or picked it off
and then hand you the dog. Yeah, it got went
out of sideline.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Hey, hold on, hold on, let me let me let
me tell you that you're looking to me up right.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Please tell me?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
And I know you remember any time that Ravens secondary
but Chris McCallister, Samari roll with them boys. But even
if you wont at the time, anytime Edrey got an interception, what's.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
The first look they look at the pitch and water to.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Make sure it's a house called every time. And I
was like, how the hell Kyle wen Nooyton knew to
do that? Well, you know what, I know, I'm not
fast enough to make it, make.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
It absolutely now. Yeah, he will go bake it.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Chase Brown thirteen to fifty three. On the ground, samajafp right.
He had fourteen carris forty two yards. Joe Burrow had
two for five twenty nine.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
They had twenty nine total rush attempts for one hundred yards.
Jama Chase had ten catchers for a buck thirty two
sixteen targets.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, y'all, I told your defense wasn't good. I told
you that. I said.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
You asked me to think the Ravens gonna turn the
ball over five times again?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You think them all over five times again?

Speaker 4 (11:00):
On Joe, Hey, you you're right, You're right, You're right,
You're right.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Listen, I'm listened. I'm I'm I'm I'm thinking with my heart.
I'm thinking with my heart and not really understand the
game of football that you're not going to have a
game like that.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
The Ravens aren't going to have a game like that anytime.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
They have eight back there they're gonna used to always
have a chance, and I was nervous, and I was nervous.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I was hoping.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I was hoping for us, for our sake, that we
won this game, because I understood what it could do
for us, for the.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Team morale in general. You know, if we were able
to win this game and pull it out and be
able to sweep the.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Ravens, you know, this season in the in the in
the division, and it didn't happen. It didn't happen. The
Ravens played one hell of a game. Lamar made some
fabulous plays. I mean, Jay Flowers made some plays. I
just thought it was a bad game. We put up
a donut on we put up a doughnut.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Y' y'all practice today.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Hey listen, we it was. It was embarrassing, But it
was embarrassing to me. No, no, it was. It was No,
it was embarrassing, donut don't. Our quarterback is is Joe Burrow.
We we have we have Chase Brown at running back.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Uh hear me.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
We got the greatest receiver to ever play and where
and with them goddamn stripes on this helmet and Jamar
Chase like that.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
That's what we got all.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Hey, y'all had the people y'all had zero Lucy Peppermint,
Patty Pig, Pid Snoopy one.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
I'm really hey, we we need we need to make changes.
We need to make.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Hey, listen, I'm not sure where those changes where, where
those changes need to come from.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
But I listen.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
In order to win in the NFL, in order for
us to contend and compete, it's not about skills. It
is not about quarterback. Games are won and lost in
the trenches. That's what we need to start at. That's
what we need to start out. We need an impact player.
We need an impact player defensively, we need someone.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
On the back end is well. We need we need a.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Great I told you you didn't have that you. I
will have it. A geno Stone. I thought you liked Stone. Yeah,
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
He's solid. He's solid. But again, I'm talking about impact
impact that I would do.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't want to man, I want.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
This. This is what I would do.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I would the focal point of what we need to
do in the off season. We need the addressed officer line.
We need one impact player. We need one good solid
I can rely on you, similar to like Lane Johnson
or something like a Trin William. Now I'm not saying
there there there are other replicas of those type of players,
but we need just that.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Then I need to d tackle and Jeffrey Simmons.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
We need Jeffrey Simmon. Jeffy Simmons, you catch your touchdown today?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, I'm looking at you. But listen, I'm.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Telling you what we need, what we need to do
to revive and get us back where we need to
get to, you know, and being able to compete in
this goddamn division.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
We need Jeffrey Simmons to come on out here. We
need we need a corner. We just think about Trayvon
Dick coming here, fresh start, new scenery. He's back.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Help You're okay, He'll feast the family guy. He gonna
get you, but they're gonna get him.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, though you understand, see, oh Joe, as long as
you understand what you're.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Getting right Yeah, what you think ain't it ain't too much.
We're not gonna fight it ain't.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
We're not gonna find nothing in the draft right now.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
You're not getting no comment, you're not getting no Stingley juniors,
You're not getting no news.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
What's in the draft. Uh, Caleb Downs. He's a safety,
He's not a corner. He's an outstanding safety. He has
great range, great tackling ability, but he's not a corner.
There's been a whole lot of safety that can change
your life. There ain't a whole lot of Ed Reads.
They're not a whole lot of Troy Polamalus. They're not
a whole lot of running lots that.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, you're talking, you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
For me, the greatest safety that I've ever watched, that
I've ever taken off on tape is Ed Reid. He
Oh yeah, I think Ed Reid is by himself. Now,
some people say they like Runnie a lot, but nobody turned.
He turned turnovers into points because he was taking this
to the hob or. He was sitting his offense up
for great field position. That's what separated me for me.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, for you, Ed Reid is up there as well,
in a tier one, in a class of his own.
But I like Troy Polamalo, who's not too far from that.
He's not too far from that. Obviously, He's a little different.
He was still rangy. He was very destructive, and being
able to obviously play playing pass covers, but what he
what he provided for you also in the in the
box and the trenches as well, and being able to

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disrupt plays man lining up in the A gap doing
some of the things you see Miles Garrett and Michael
Parsons do.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
It's tremendous.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
And when you have players like that, we talk about
the great it allows you to do so much defensively.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
When you have all these exotic coverages that.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Confuse you because they would always be in places that
aren't traditional, you can't study for that.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
You can't study for some of the things that they
were able to do and they brought to the game.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I mean, o Jo, you realized Lamar Jackson completed a
passes that's.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Who you telling. It was ten degrees out there.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I only had They only had twenty four rusher temps.
Derrick Harry had eleven carries for a hundid Keaton Mitchell
uh had a carries for sixty six.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
They had twenty four rusher temps for one hundred and
eighty nine yards. They average damn there eight.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yard car No, that's not necessary, that's not necessary.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
And one thing about Grandma always said when when a
man is down, you don't kick him.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So you running?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
You?

Speaker 4 (16:45):
You rather enough all these stats and we already lost
the game.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
We ain't sco But I've been telling you this. I
tried to tell you this.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
See you, but what you wanted to come out here
and gloat on Thanksgiving? O cho Ocho said it? O
Joe say that they were gonna beat the Ravens. O
joy going to the playoffs? Okay, what yore saying?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Well, listen, hey, even even even a goddamn Clark is
wrong twice a day.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You wrong.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You at the start of the season. You is wrong.
At the middle of the season. You wrong right down.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Technically, if you think about it throughout throughout the entire
of the season, I've only been wrong two times.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I've only been wrong twice.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Right twice that Joe Burrow was coming back and y'all
gonna beat the Ravers.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Well he did come back and to beat the Ravers.
That was his first night.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
All the other times have been wrong.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
I told you, Brownie, brother Brownie, Hey, Chad, y'all remember
he said, brother Brownie, Oh, brother Brownie, go do this thing.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I mean, I was fooled from last time he had starts.
I was fool. I was fool.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
But listen, we we we we we got we got
to we got to clean your house. I'm not sure
what we need to do. I gave some suggestions, Yeah,
I gave some suggestions. Is on what I think we
need to do or who we need to acquire, veterans
that we need to cry that can come in that
are experience and we know we get you know, because
the draft and the draft is not gonna do it
nobody coming in and the offensively defense league and just

(18:12):
changing everything.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
You know, draft and ooh who y'all played?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Next week? I said, we played the Packers. Oh y'all
losing that game?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Said, hold on, I listen, I don't I don't think
I say that because you would have to show you
I wouldn't bet against I wouldn't bet against that defense.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Beat y'all. You gonna be just like I wouldn't bet
against y'all defense.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I know I ain't saying that. I know what you.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I know what you.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, we're gonna find that clip A have him started
looking for that clip with what you said, the Green
Bay would go beat the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I promise I promise you ain't say that your web,
but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Did Butter go to the game. The Butter enjoyed himself.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
But hey, man, listen, man, Butter can but Butter came
to the game. Is raising the fans, listen, the Bengals,
the Bengals fansy they open it, you know with what open.
We showed him some hospitality, you know, you know it's
his first game coming out here the Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
He loved the Raven.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
He loved him some raising, so raising, so you know,
I may show the show Butter some love, you know.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
And I made sure he was able to beat Lamar
and and and and whatever. And it was embarrassing. It
was for me.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
It was embarrassing because I had company, I had company
in the building and we ain't score no points.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
So now I can't even talk no trash.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I hat you think he wanted this?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna let you talk to Butter man,
hold on, hold on, So yeah, talk.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Tells you talk to me. Hey, he was sick. Hey,
how you get thrown how you get thrown out of chase? Sweet?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Because listen listen, because boy, they were talking so much trash.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
They would let me have but they were. They were
starting so much trash.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
But as soon as soon and soon, because I knew
Joe's gonna give me something, asked listen, I asked.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Joe to give me give me one, No, give me one?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
And what he do?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
What he do?

Speaker 5 (20:06):
That big six boy. I couldn't contrain myself.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Hey man, we're gonna take a look at this. Listen,
look at the video red quick. But let's see. Hey,
this butter right here this week. Yes, let's.

Speaker 8 (20:19):
To the crib, to the cray.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Why am I way?

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Why am I not cheering?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
Why are we not cheering? No more?

Speaker 4 (20:25):
We not churning?

Speaker 1 (20:25):
No more?

Speaker 8 (20:26):
What am I what? On? Listen, hey, listen, I appreciate you, bro.

(20:57):
He said, you're having you put on.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I thought you were playing.

Speaker 8 (21:11):
They kick.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I thought you were playing, bro.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
I thought, bro, listen, I thought that I thought they
were playing. I thought they were playing tools and the
thing that made the worst. They had the best sash.
But you had some good It was nice and warm up.
Down you have some good old food. You drank you
a couple of Bruce kids.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
I ain't ain't I ain't ain't you ain't no food.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
You ain't no food.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
They ain't they ain't They ain't have what I like.
I don't like that many things. You know what I'm saying.
More chicken chicken tender. You know what I'm saying, chicken tenders. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I ain't go out.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
I was a little, a little afraid to go back
there because they it was like forty of them in there,
So ain't.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
I ain't want to glow their food.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
So that's the best part about it. You glow eating
the ish.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
No, but we see, we already came. I'm saying, we
already came in. They crib put our feet up on
the car.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
And you and you ha lood on your shoes too,
and what I'm.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
All day and I couldn't. I couldn't wait for it.
I was hoping it was gonna be a glass table
so they can see it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
That's what we do. Look at that.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
That's what I see.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
That's what I'm saying, O Joe, I'm saying, he was
talking so much trash. I tried to tell him. I
tried to tell him the script, but he ain't want
to listen to me to.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Listen to but it ain't gonna lie to see a
lot for them before.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You listen to listening. Now I know that I know that.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
So and I told him that we get to play
the Bengals. You know what I'm saying that this is
gonna be our confidence boos because we ain't. We ain't
snamp nobody all week, yeah, year out, We're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, they had a great thing, but I think
about all that practice time. They put it out there
in the cold, playing the cold, and you don't go
no points about you came out better than not even practicing.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
I told him, I try to tell tell her to
stop the game. It worked, it ain't worked. But see
what I was gonna try to do. I was gonna
try to do. I was gonna try to get a little,
a little scrimmage in with them since they season over,
get some confidence about it.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Hey, they signed you to the practice squad, Butter.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
That's what they That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I was just glicted.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
I was already on the field. I was this close
to the line. I could I can do that. All
they had to do it to give me some short
of pan. Butter, Butter, stay ready, I ain't gotta get ready.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I stay ready.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
You gotta look at my film. Listen, I'm telling you
gotta look at my field. If something ain't on the flow,
something wrong. When you look at my film, something God's
on that ground.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Bad boy looked like you said, boy, it sounds like
you had a great time.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Listen, I had an amazing time. It is one of
the best deeds in my life.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
To see it, you uh, to see a game up
close and to see it like you saw it, to
be in the suite, to be down there on the field,
to actually see that, you know, to actually see a
play being run and to see the guy that you
watch on television is an incredible feeling.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
You probably do understand.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I understand a little bit.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, it was amazing. And that to
be my first NFL game ever.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh that's the first time you've ever been to a game?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
First time.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
The closest I came to that was like a Northern
State football.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Oh man, so you so your first game, you actually
on the field.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
That's what I'm saying. And now when I go to
another one, I'm be.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Like getting Yeah, you can see. That's the thing. See,
because once you get, once you get you know, you're
get an opportunity. You go to a suite and you
getting to go all behind the scenes watching the game,
and the stand is not the same.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It's you small down.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
The thing is, though I got a little I got
a little clipse when they kicked me out. I had
to go out there then, So so you know, it's
still cool though it was, it was, it was glad.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. But I'm I'm more ecstatic
that we got that. These guys got the win.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
That's what I'm saying, And it's part of the script.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I've been trying to preach the script.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
A whole time.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
They had to get They thought they thought they was
gonna come in in the bank and.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Win without no reap. Exactly.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
They gotta be insane.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Some gott to be wrong with them. Hey, so gotta
be Look who who the Ravens got next? Who they
got next?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Butter Oh, Patriots?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
They go to New England or New England, come come
come to us in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, they got the picture.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Then y'all got y'all got Patriots at home at Packers
at Steelers.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
Yeah, but listen, listen, that that's why we had to
get this.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Comed comedy was the confed that pick you up. What
y'all what we did to him today? M that helped
that go a long way, long way.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Ye, it was beautiful to see, like you know what
I'm saying, my dog see I met uh jamorro Chasey.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
It was beautiful to see him get double team just you.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
I actually enjoyed it, and I was trying to I
was trying to tell the people in the city we
we ain't got no, we ain't got no harm.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
For we like him a lot.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
We just wanted to tap his pocket a little bit,
see what he got on him.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's all. That's all we want. Yeah, we want hey
chat check this out.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
The Bengals reportedly did not remove snow from the seats
at Paid Course Stadium, despite NFL rules requiring snow and
ice be clear from all seating areas before the game.
The Bengals faced an apparent violation of league policy.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Man, you have snow and you're still in your seat.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Oh no, I was in No, I want, I want,
I want.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
I went out there with them, I was. I don't
know nothing about that. That ain't that ain't none of my.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Business what I'm talking about about.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, it ain't.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, ain't none of my fitiness. So no, but the
game was. That was amazing man. Man, congratulations, Man, I'm
glad you enjoyed it. Glad you got an opportunity to
see the good guys where today. Man, thanks for the
support of Nightcap. I'm glad you got an opportunity BeO
o Cho laid it out for you. That's unbelievable, man,

(27:47):
Thank you very much for supporting us the Nightcap family.
Thanks for telling all your friends and loved ones about us.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
And we appreciate that. Man, Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's heir. Ojo sick uh.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
One fan tweeted, Ojo wanted to take my girlfriend to
the first NFL game for a birthday, super stoked to
see the Bengals. Decided snow clear would be left to
the fans. Bonus points for not allowing cardboard to be
brought into the stands. Instead, Instead, we got to stand
on the snow and ice and freeze our feet.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Ojo, y'all that chief? Oho?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Hey, hey, I don't know, I don't know the rules.
I don't know proto you.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
See what they do in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
You see what they do with every other NFL stadium,
Green Bay, Buffalo, Chicago.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
When snow, normally fans they come and help remove it.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
But if they don't, the team must remove all snow
ice from the seats.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Hey see, I didn't know that you heard what you
just said in Green bayy in Buffalo, wherever you sitting.
I thought most of the fans wherever they see sar,
they just take the snow and and uh and and
you know, put.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
It, put it on the floor.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I didn't know it was the team you supposed to
remove that.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Oh okay, see I I never knew that.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I never never, I never knew it was up to
the team to be able to remove the.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Snow before before the fans come in.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I thought of something that the fans always need collect as.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
A uh, welcome to the pros and jungle.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
We saw fans breeping ice off their seats with credit cards.
The wind chill was around three minus three at kickoff.
Now you see why Joe Burrow wants to get out
of there. Now, you see, wanted to get out of there.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
He didn't even say that is that? Is that what
you're trying to say, you putting words in Joe mouth.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Joe.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
I didn't want to get that.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Let me tell you what Joe said. What Joe said
is is is he sent a message. He sent a
message and riddle for him that you and I understand
there are changes that need to be made.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
That's that's what he said. I walked up to Joe.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I walked up to Joe before the game, and I
walked him and I asked him, you know, I'm sure
it's picture this cameras out there, and I made sure
the whisper. I say everything good. He say, yeah, everything
is good, and I whispered. I say, man, don't scare
me like that again. He looked at me. He winked,
and he smiled.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Everything ain't good. Exactly.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Listen, I knew exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
How does three years Joe Burro will be playing somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, listen, and the two to three years the changes
that he wants with that little message he said last
week or yeah last week, Oh no, that was this week.
With the message he said, I carry it to you.
Those changes are going to be made.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, made because that's a family run business like
most NFL teams and family h Brown he ain't changing.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
He ain't changing.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Thing's gonna change for the better. Because I don't like
this feeling. The players don't use to it. The fans
like if the fans don't like this feeling, huh, listen,
the culture, the.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Culture in Cincinnati has changed.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
It's been different. It's been different now. This has been
a down year for us here.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Y'all miss the playoffs the last three years, since y'all
went to the Super since y'all win, when last time
y'all went back?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Have you been having?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
They missed the playoff the last it was the last
three of the last two years.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Last two, last two, last suit. But it's cool. We're
gonna be straight. We're gonna be straight. Burrow.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
After the game, Jamar Chase says he's never been in
a situation where he had to uplift Joe Burrow. He
might have to start doing that. You never know what
he might be going through. Fans were yelling at Joe
behind the bench all second half. Chase finally stood up
for yell a run your ass home. Yeah, hey, you know,

(31:53):
don't pretend like you know you don't what I say.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I was sitting up high, I was, I was I
was sitting up high, so I wasn't but I wasn't
able to hear that.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
I mean, yeah, you know, the fans frustrated.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
On if the fans, the fans are frustrated, they won't changes,
changes need.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
JJ McCarthy, they give you. We'll give you three first
round picks. Come again, three first round picks.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
And JJ McCarthy, nah, nah, we were good, Joe Joebi here,
Jeorge be here.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Honestly, like today, was embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
It was embarrassing, not just as a former player, but
as as a fan of football in general, and the
team that I played for, a team at a team
that you know, I've I've given my blood, sweat and
tears for to put on a performance like that today.
And I had company with me to I had, I
bought company with me. It was his first NFL game,

(32:48):
his first NFL game. He had a chance to watch
his favorite team, meet his favorite player, you know, the
marvelous Jackson. And and that's what we do.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Zero points.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
We practiced Wednesday, we practiced Thursday, we practiced Friday, we
got walked through on Saturday, and we need today and
scored zero points.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
That's exactly what y'all did and it ain't no surprise.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Well that's bad there, boy, what you were?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know what too?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
That's bad?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
You Hey, hey, let me tell you something. Hey, hey,
it's it's funny how you kick a man while hewn.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I just got over cold in here.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I know, but I'm just saying just that you've been
coming at me all You've been coming at me all day.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
The memes, you know, the graphic team.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I don't know who. I don't know who's the part
of our graphic team, but boy, they need a raise. Boy, hey,
they ay them some creative folk, creative man. Yeah, and
I shared I could be honest with because we family.
You know, I don't like I should. I shared it
to today. I shared a toy today walking out the stadium,
and it was so cold they froze.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
The tears frozen my face. They frozen my face because
I know you cut v robots.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Do you know how bad you gotta be to score
no points?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
See you practice?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I mean thinking about that. Just think about it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I'm saying, hey, before you keep going, think about my
mental health.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Think about what I'm going through right now.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
You ain't going through and you ain't going through it
by far enough. Let me go put your back here
some stuff. Think about it, chat. If you practice all week.
Let's say you got practiced all week, so you practice Wednesday, Thursday,
half of day Friday, and you get to practice for
about fifteen minutes on Saturday and on Sunday, I'm gonna
give you an hour to make a free throat.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah you right, y'all put in that field goal range.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
So what happened to sportsmanship?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Growing there? Win in elementary school? We get paid.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I'm just saying right now, I know, but you don't.
You don't feel bad for me at all. So you
you you rather? You rather my mental health.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Side, I don't want to you know what, I'm uplift
you after the show if I'm gonna call you to
make sure you're okay. But to me talking, I'm about
to tell your answer up hey, because I already know.
I already know. I already know if the shoe.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Was on the other foot, I wouldn't say if the
shoe was on the other foot, I wouldn't do this.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I wouldn't do this to you because all you was
talking about this you can't say or ball.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But you had to change.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Listen, listen. I can't say foot of ball. I can't
say touch or down because we didn't even get that. Hell,
I can't even say feel or goal.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
We ain't get that either.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, I mean they got graphics for my team. They
just had to hold on for like three months. He
got in the loss.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
We ain't a loss.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
We got twelve wins.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, y'all, y'all good. Twelve y'all good.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
As a matter of fact, we clinched the playoff spot.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
You did.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Hold on and you cleins you. Hey, listen, all y'all
gonna do? Is y'all gonna play one more week than
we do.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's it, y'all. I don't even why y'all playing. Ain't
nothing to play for.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Hey, y'all, y'all gonna Hey, listen, y'all.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Gonna meet us in can Coon anyway, Oh, yoall, we're
just gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I told I told you the same thing I told
the Cowboys. They say, if you book international flight ninety
days in advance, you get the best price. I told
y'all to book y'all flights in October, the same thing
I told the cowboys.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Ninety days.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
So middle of October, middle of November, middle of December, January.
Anywhere you want to go, y'all want to go to Toulon,
you want to go to Jamaica, Rios or the say
shells and Maurfy coats.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
I like it. You feel a good you feel you
feel yourself, you feel yourself. A team lost. It's cool
we down.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Listen, it's like you don't epathetic. Think about it. You
watched the Browns. They were pathetic. They scored three points.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
God dagn wasn't able to get in field right now.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I wouldn't get it, feel Hollo.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
You mean to tell me you got a top five
quarterback and arguably the best receiver in football and you
couldn't get in field?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
No rage.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
I mean we we had some plays that we were
like back.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
We had some touchdowns that that that that should have
been touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
We had some players that were missed.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Obviously I can see sitting in the stands, but when
you're feel sided as a quarterback, sometimes you miss it.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
So I don't know, nobody, I don't know what you'd
like to have back. I know the like to have
their money back for that performance.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, I wouldn't blame them, right now.
I wouldn't blame them. I'm just honestly, there's nothing I
canna say.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I can't. I can't defend any part of the organization.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Don't worry about what we do and telling about Cowboy fans.
Y'all gonna lose in the playoffs. Y'all losing in the
regular season, y'all let that even make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
So don't worry about what we do. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Hey, were you right?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You're right?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
You're righting high on your Ravens and your Broncos. Congratulations,
whoa whoa, whoa wa Congratulations?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Why you mentioned my team?

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I'm just I'm say congratulations, gratulations.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm not talking trash congratulations. I know we got a
lot of Ravens fan I know we have.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
A lot a lot of congratulations. Yea. We we don't
want that. We don't want nothing.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
I'm sure sports I'm showing sportsmanship and humility.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
That's me. That's me. I could I could admit when
I'm defeated. I'm defeated.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Oh I've been out ya. I've been preparing you this
for two years. I to tell you, prepared for the season.
I said, Oh yo, y'all not making the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Well you you only knew that because Joe I.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Told you you were going to make the playoffs. You
told you, You told me, Bruck and I told you.
I said, I don't even know why Joe coming back.
All they're gonna do is make himself mad. He gonna
win a game and the next thing, you know, y'all
gonna lose out. He's gonna be mad, frustrated that he
came back, put himself in harm's way. For what I
get it, we're a look, we just we're not wired

(39:21):
to sit on it. If we're healthy, we're gonna play.
That's how he That's how we're wired. That's how he's wired.
But the team sucks. She was released an update on
Mahomes this evening. It's saying the injury update on QB
Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes successfully underwent surgery in Dallas this

(39:42):
evening with doctor Dan Cooper to repair tears to his
left a c l uh, but he also had a
LCL right okay uh. Mahomes will begin rehab process immediately.
The name surgeon said, so off rumors throughout the social media.
Doctor David Choi i guess a child child. Excuse me,

(40:04):
packri Ma Holmes on the wein surgery tonight to repair ACL.
The timing and the surgeon who performed the surger essentially
confirms he also tore his LCL, which makes recovery time
more difficult because if I'm not mistaken, O Joe, he's
the guy that repaired Teddy Bridgewater Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 9 (40:23):
To in Minnesota. In Minnesota, yes, yes, and.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So this was later confirmed.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
According to Ian Rappaport, Mahomes also tore his LCL at
his left knee. Typical recovery for such an injury is
about nine months, meaning Mahomes will miss teams off season
program and his availability to start the next season is
in question. The twenty twenty six NFL season opener is
September tenth.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Now, now this is the thing they say, how much
time it takes for for people to heal from certain injuries.
You know, everybody's body is different on everybody heals differently
everybody depending on how much rehab you do, sometimes people
come back faster than others. I think, knowing Ma Holmes,
he's one that won't come back until he's maybe close
to one hundred percent you know, I think mahomes that

(41:10):
at ninety five percent is better than half the goddamn
league got a goddamn hundred. So I think I say,
I hear them saying nine months, But knowing him, knowing
technology as as advanced as rehab methods are, in the
in the in the resources that he has at his disposal,
I see him coming back much much faster than damn
nine months.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Well, you got to be careful, oho, because you know
he's a right handed quarterback and his left is his
plant leg. Yes it's got to be stable, Yes it's
got he's got you know Tom Brady, Tom Brady uh
tore his and I think he tore his a CL
and MCL.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
But that's the plant. That's the most important leg.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Your quarterback, your right handed quarterback, your left is the
most important.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
They just they just thinking about that, just just the
thought of it, of me not being able to function
and having having my knee and then just tearing up. Now,
give me the ick, it give me, it gives me
the ick, just just thinking about all the injuries and
a lot of people can play, you know, Malik Neighbors.
They say, oh, the turf, the turf, But you look
at some of the injuries also that's continuing to happen.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
That was.

Speaker 9 (42:18):
Michael Parsons. What they play on on.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
They played grass. It's a combination, but mostly it's it's uh,
they have some synthetic sewn in, but that's mainly grass.
I know I played on it. Oh yeah, Michael Parsons,
torn a cel Mahomes, torn a ceel, Nick Bosa, torn
a cee a, Elik Neighbors, torn a cee a, Tyreek Hill,
Tucker Craft, Zach Ertz, Marshaw Lattimore on paid for the

(42:42):
lowest year for A cl injuries in many years.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's just the names are so gargantuate.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
You're talking about Patrick Mahons, you talking about a Pro
Bowl in Michael Parson, you talking about the defensive player
of the year, and Nick Bolsa. We're talking about Melik Neighbors,
who was sensational, Ertz, who's been multiple time Pro Bowl player.
So they have been thirty acs torn so far this
season in the NFL. Here's the numbers by season since
twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
In twenty thirteen, oh shows that were sixty three, In
fourteen that was forty five, and fifteen that were fifty
in sixteen, that were forty nine in seventeen, fifty two, eighteen,
fifty three, thirty four, twenty nineteen, there were thirty four.
In twenty twenty, that was forty two. In twenty one,
there were fifty seven in twenty twenty two, there's fifty one,

(43:36):
twenty three, forty three, twenty four, thirty eight and twenty
five with three games well with the playoffs county, so
we'll see there's a great chance that and hope, you know,
but just playing the odds, you got three more regular
season game and you got the playoffs in the super Bowl,
so there's a chance that this number could climb from
the thirty, which is the lowest since twenty six thirteen,

(43:58):
to an even higher number.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, I think I think it's it's unfortunate. I don't
think there's any way to prevent it. Some of these injuries,
most of them are non contact injury, uh, and just
them making making sudden movements, making sudden movements. I don't know,
maybe the bodies relaxed and maybe maybe I don't I
don't know what it is, h I don't know what
it is, And just it sucks because these aren't just

(44:24):
not nothing.

Speaker 9 (44:24):
Not that I'm saying that other players aren't.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Important, but you're, you're, you're, you're polarizing figures, your impact players,
the ones that that put busts in the seats are
getting injured and it sucks.

Speaker 9 (44:35):
I mean it sucks.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
And this surgeon also did uh You remember Jalen Smith,
the Notre Dame guy that many thought wasn't gonna be
able to play again the plague he ended up playing
and making the Pro Bowl, wasn't the same player that
he was because he was about to be a top
five pick. He had that kind of explosiveness in suddenness
when he's that not to Dame the Fiesta Bowl, he

(44:57):
towards me. The Cowboys took a chance, let him, let rehab,
and it turned out to be a very very good
player for him for excuse me for them, but.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I don't know, o Choe.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Normally you see a lot of ACL tears, and normally
women tear the acls a lot easier because they don't
have the muscle mass and the quads and the bone
decks density that a male has. So you see them tear.
You see them tear acls a lot, soccer, basketball, something,
it's you know, soft for stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
You see them tear.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Women normally tear their acls a lot easier than men
for the simple fact they don't have the muscle mass
to distribute that force.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Because that's a lot of forces.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
You talk about a man running two hundred and thirty
fifty sixty pounds run and stop, turn, jump, cutting, and
so you got to be able to have quad muscles,
glue muscles, and hamstring to be able to stabilize that.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
But it's tough.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
And because like you said, I think we think it's
more is just the names are bigger.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, yeah, I wish I understood and and was more
knowledgeable about, you know, these injuries, why it's happening.

Speaker 9 (46:14):
I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Reason it's hard.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
It's hard for me to and a non contact yeah, yeah,
it's hard for me to grasp and quite understand it.
But the fact that my injury history, I mean there
really there really is none, and watching some of these
players go down, it's not I'm not sure if the
bodies relaxed at the wrong time, you're leaning a certain way,
are you stepping a certain way? I don't, I don't,

(46:39):
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I mean, look I've stepped the hyper expendence standing my knee.
But I think Greece like you already had like your knees.
You already had a little elasticity in your knees. So
uh and maybe that was a blessing and a curse.
But March, April, May, June, July, August.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
He's gonna have to Now you understand why he had
to surge you immediately.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
Because the absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
And he go, hey, guess what, o Joe, You're gonna
have they They're gonna he gonna bending that damn need tomorrow.
He has served you today, They're gonna have him been
in it. We're trying to get that need to one twenty.

Speaker 9 (47:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
He's gonna be He's gonna be working out twice a day. See.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
The thing is is that you can't look at that
as a like. I think a lot of times in
the chat you look at it. You hurt your knee.
You're gonna go to rehab twice a week. He going
to rehab every day, and a lot of times he's
going twice a day. Oh yeah, absolutely with the best
with the best pts in physios that money can buy.

(47:48):
So That's why the time gets sped up is that
you're looking. You're dealing with guys that are going to
physical therapy PET five days a week, sometimes twice a day.
They got machines at home because when I broke my
collar on on shoe, I got me a machine. I
got me a game ready.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I just located my elbow.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Hey, I had all the machines. I bought me an
ice machine for home. Ohoe that to make three hundred
pounds of ice to day. Yeah, I had everything they have.
I had dip. I had what I had. I bought
a cow trough. I couldn't a port of damn dip
tate damn that I went brought me. I went to it.
I went me to a livestock store.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Ojo. It brought me a cow trough.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Hell yeah, and dumped that ice in there. Put me
some one of them and get my ass up in there.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
But I had a game.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I still got the game ready machine. Put it for
my elbows, for my ankles, for my knees. Had wanted
to strap to go over my shoulder, absolutely because I
was trying to speed the process up. So instead of like,
well I ain't got no ice, I got to wait
too in the morning.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Nah, every two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah, I was icing again, o Joe, as soon as
I felt it got warm enough that I could put
it back up, because I don't want to get frost bite.
But you know, he put the ice on there that
make make exacerbated situation. But that's what I did. Yeah,
and a lot of guys do that. I got a
steal machine on Joe. I got me a laser machine.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
Oh yeah, God damn you had a goddamn hospital. Write
it down. I did, I did, I did on Yoe. Hey,
I was like, greet what I need. I got me.
I ain't get the high end like they got. Hell, now,
once I was healthy, what the hell I was gonna
do with it? Yeah, I kept the game ready, but uh,
I let somebody borrow my damn steal machine and they

(49:30):
never gave.

Speaker 8 (49:31):
Me my mind.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Never I knew he was gonna say that. I knew
you was gonna say that. Hey, that's one thing about it.
When you loan something out, you better write it down.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
And and and uh my laser, I need.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
The rent the red laser.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, I know who got it, but I ain't gonna
say nothing.

Speaker 9 (49:52):
You don't need you don't need it no more I do.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I still want it. I paid for it. He ain't
paid me for it. When I see it, my mice
slapped fire from it. Hell no, I don't, man, I
don't listen to the chat. Y'all don't know what the
hell y'all talking about. Women are two point eight times

(50:15):
more likely to turn a C two day. Yeah, two
to eight times, So they're almost so for what happen.
First of all, Oh Joe, Yeah, and I get it,
and I chat, I do. I do understand because there's
a lot of with AI and there's a lot of
misinformation going on. But I have a lot of friends
that are in this profession that I can just pick

(50:36):
up the phone and call uh doctor Baffeet and doctor
Tyberry and Neil Latroge and the Stedmund Hawkins Clinic. Women
are more likely to tear their ac l land a man.
That's not conjecture, that's not speculation, that's not in you
in though. That's fact. Now y'all want to trap me.

(51:01):
Y'all don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Well, listen, if you say it, when you say it,
and you say it's factual, I think for those that
are in the chat that don't know and just want
to go argue the fact. I mean, there's statistics to
to to prove those facts that.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
They're talking about.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
They get mad Ojoe because they think think he knows everything.
You remember we was having a conversation about TJ. Watt,
but I knowing anything. What did I tell you, Joe?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
They punctured his loan and it is exactly what happened.
How you know, I.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Say, because thirty one year old don't have discomfort lung
discomfort unless you have a contusion in the game. And
if you have a contusion in the game, it's not
delayed yet. I have seen guys fall and collapse the
lung because a puncture, they fell on the football or
they got hit, but it's normally that night or earlier

(51:53):
than early that morning.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
It's not three four days later.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
So when they tell me that he had a collapse,
that it collapse long they proasured that lung.

Speaker 8 (52:03):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I didn't I thought maybe he got an injection or something,
but it would come from dry kneeling. You see, Ojoe,
when you talk about me, I've had all those things
go on. That's what really scared me because when I
tore my rib cartilage, they would inject me and I
remember thinking, like, damn, dodged it again. I still breathe
fine because they ask you how you're breathing. I'm fine,

(52:24):
I said, man, I attend to do. I done did
this three. I said, I'm done with this. I'm done
with this. But I'm telling you things. I was a
professional athlete.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Guys. Damn, whether I was good or not, I don't been.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I done been a pincushion, ribs, shoulders, ass ankles.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I had it all shot up.

Speaker 9 (52:47):
Yeah, hey, I'm confused on something.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Now. When it comes to dry needles, right, do they
insert the needle that far where it can yet?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Because you here's the thing. Oh Joe, you gotta get it.
You gotta get it in there, because the thing is
is like when I got my shoulders. They tried to say, okay,
give me the exact what the point is, but they
gotta move it around because they got to get as
much medicine in that point. But you realize this is bone.
That needle is touching bone. Ah, you think about what's here,

(53:18):
Oh Joe, you gotta realize that's what the reals are for.
Is to protect vital organs. It ain't a big it
ain't a big lead.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
And I'm telling you, I'm trying to tell them that. Well,
you think you know everything. No, I don't know everything.
I know a little bit about everything, but I know
when you're shooting, when you when you start putting needles
in your side and the lungs are right there, you're
at It's not always, but sometimes things can happen.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
They explained it to me O Joe so eloquently.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
They said, with Shennon, you know, we keep doing this,
there's a there's a chance that you might have problems
later on in life. I ain't promised to live later
on in life. Give me that damn shot. You talk
about what might happened late on in life. I'm talking
about right now. I worried about late on in life

(54:10):
in life.

Speaker 9 (54:12):
Hey, so you're trying to get on that guy, damn Field?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Was I.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Why you think I shot up?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I shot my ankles up in ninety three, In ninety three,
the last eleven games in the postseason, I shot my
ankle up. In ninety four, I shot my ankle up.
I shot the left one up. Every single every single
Sunday before the game, and then I ended up shooting
the last eight games. I shot up both of them. God,

(54:41):
in Baltimore, I got my knees drained. My last year
in Baltimore, Oh Joe, probably about last seven weeks, I
was getting both these drains. I was getting thirty forty
cecs pulled off my.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Knees before every game before the game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
So, but but my thing was, oh Joe, and and
and and I remember having a conversation with Osie. I said, Ozsie,
as long as I can go out there and play,
and it can be somewhat yes, like s h r
p E on the back of the jerseys oudure, yes,
I say, But when I can't, I'm not gonna use
that excuse as I'm hurt and that's why I'm not

(55:22):
playing well if I if I can't be somewhat resemblance
of myself, yes, I gotta sit it down. I gotta
trust that you got people behind me that can go
get the job.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Done done right, and so that that's that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
I look, I get it, and I have a whole
lot of youse useless information a lot of times, but
I have a lot of useful information also. And when
I'm talking about things I've been in the locker room.
When you've been around locker room, don't show you no ideas.
It's a little different now. You know, guys they play
more video games, and they probably joke a little bit
more than what we did. We had fun, we joked,

(55:54):
but some of the stuff that they joke about now
that was never gonna.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Fly in the locker room at the time. Out of
the locker room. Mabbles here, baby deals now.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
But but and you go look at the studies and
see why women suffer more acl tears than me in
and then get back to me. The Seattle Seahawks ruined
the return of forty four year old Philip Rivers. Jason

(56:26):
Myers kicked the franchise record six field goals, including one
of fifty six yards with twenty nine second left at
The Seahawks outlasted forty four year old quarterback Philip Rivers
and the coach eighteen sixteen without scoring a touchdown. Myers
converted twenty four of his last field goal attempts, with
his only miss a sixty one yard try on November sixteenth,

(56:47):
and he leaves the NFL with a career best one
hundred and fifty four points. He also converted from forty seven,
fifty two, forty six, thirty two, and thirty. The Seahawks
needed every one of those points. Rivers, who hadn't thrown
them pass in the NFL and the for five years. Seattle
extended its winning streak to four games. Andy Trail for
just one little under two minutes, went ahead thirteen to three.

(57:10):
Old Rivers first touchdown pass since the Coats twenty seven
twenty four lost to Buffalo in the playoffs on January
the night of twenty twenty four. Oh Joe, you know
they talking about that. Yeah, you know what else? Recalibrates
medical insurance. He got five more years, you know, when

(57:34):
you got little kids. So by this time another four
five one be off the payroll.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
O Joe be off.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I'm just saying, right, no, but no, seriously, look, I
thought he's playing I thought Philip Rivers didn't play bad,
considering on YO, the man ain't really had no series.
He was eighteen or twenty seven, one, twenty nothing, nothing.
You know, they would trying to push the ball down
the field. Oh Joe, there you know they couldn't hold
up against that. But Jonathan Taylor rand the ball for
eight twenty five times for eighty seven yards and mere

(58:02):
Dula had four for fifteen. Seattle was in the red
zone all day, but they couldn't punch the ball and
the end zone. Give the Indie defense credit for that.
Jackson Smith and Jigbus seven catches of buck thirteen.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Uh, he should be up? What is he? What does
he like? Fifteen hundred right now?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I think there's an outside chance he h that that
that that performance that he had.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
I forget what it had a couple of weeks ago
where he had like three.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
It might've been Minnesota where Yo cho, you know, he
had like twenty five yards and that guy set him back.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
But there's a still outside chance that he get to
eighteen hundred.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Yeah, he got, he got. He gotta go crazy, he
got to go. They got to continue to keep.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
He got fifteen forty one, oh, Joe, So he needs
two fifty nine in three games, which is.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
About eighty yards a game. He averaging that right now?

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Definitely he can definitely get.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
As a matter of fact, he averaged over one hundred
yards a game. So he got fifteen thirty one. They
played fourteen games.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
So yeah, yeah, he definitely got a chance to get
that because they put him in position to be able
to get them the ball.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
They have played specifically design just to get it.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
He's so smooth with it. Man, Yeah, that joke was smooth.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Man nice.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
He should be a unanimous first team All Pro. You
know that he should be a first team or unanimous
All Pro. Obviously, Miles Ganans should be a first team
All Pro. Yes, I'm trying to think who else. Oh
McBride to tied end from Arizona?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Oh man, he nice? He cooked. I'm gonna catches the
McBride got from Arizona. He cooked it. He had two
more today, Oh joke.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
I mean Bride is the real deal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
He got five catches.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Oh joe, he got one hundred and five catches right now.
He leading the league. Have we ever had a tight
end lead the league in catches? I don't think so, ojo.
I don't think zach Ertz had the league when he
had it. I don't think Witting when he had. I

(01:00:23):
think Ers got the record. He gonna get that record.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
That's crazy. I'm still touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Did he wow? Gronk? Did how many Gronk have? Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I still can't believe Philip Rivers at forty four was
able to come out there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
And you can play a position that doesn't require athleticism.
You not playing that at corner, You're not playing that
at receiver, You're not play that in safety, You're not
playing that unning back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
You not played that. It tighty yet on all quarterbacks,
said Pooker.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Second went on two, how many Chase got? Chase gotta
be close one on one, so it's gonna come down
to the end. Vante Adams did not return to Sunday's
game after playoffs clinching forty one thirty four win over
the Lions after supping in non contact hamstring injury, and

(01:01:29):
its status for Thursday night showdown against the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Seahawks is in doubt. McVay said.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Adams was optimistic about the injury, so we'll we'll see
what that means. I can't imagine that's good for Thursday
with just short amount of time, but certainly wouldn't rule
him out quite yet, but it didn't look good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Pooking the corp.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Also briefly left the game on Joe what was later
announced to cramp. Pooking the core went crazy nine catches
a buck eighty nine, Kobe Party five for seventy five,
two touches Davonte four for seventy one, and they ran
the ball twenty nine times for above fifty nine. Kyro
William fifteen carries seventy eight yards two tubs, Blake Krum

(01:02:09):
eleven carries seventy one yards one tub. Matthew Stafford was
sensational twenty four of thirty eight three seventy two touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
One I n t.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Matthew Stafford. He creeping up that lead, He creeping up there.
How many touchdowns the abnet pass it? It should be
thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty seven?

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
I think I'm right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
How many picks? Six?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Oh, Joe thirty seven and five? Wo, So he gonna
be He gonna be over four thousand yards passing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
He gonna win the MVP.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
They might as well give it to him now. Hell
ain't ain't nothing to wait for.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Un Stafford gonna be the MVP.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Josh Allen Lurkin though, Josh Allen Lurkin, Josh Allen got
thirty Oh til you know that Joe got thirty five
total touchdowns?

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
How many have passed? I understand what we have like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Twenty five he got like he got like ten twelve.
But that's it gonna be. That's the same way he
wanted last year. He got twenty five what ten Russian?

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Twelve Russian.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Matthew Stafford, Yeah, Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Is winning, I believe, Yeah, and deserving himself. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
And DeVante Adams he's gonna have to sit this game out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
He got thirty seven total touchdown, twenty five passing, twelve Russian.
He's gonna be like he like he was last year.
You know, over forty touchdowns. You know, there's a chance
he gets to thirty. There's a chance he gets to
you know, six fifteen sixteen Russian, right. Jerry Goff was
twenty five or forty one three thirty eight three touchdowns,

(01:03:57):
no interceptions, Jamir Gills uh and David Montgomery with hell
the twenty rushes Uh seventy yards arm and Rob Saint
Brown had himself a day today thirteen catches, abus sixty
four two touchdowns, Jameson Williams seven four buck thirty four
one touchdown. But it was not enough because the Rams
offense got going and there was no slowing them down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Hey, well they were they was dealing. Boy, well Stafford
was dealing that. God damn Pooking the cop so nice.
On hey, Pooking the cop is so nice. He can
do just about everything, it don't matter. He put him
in inside, they put him in motion, they put him outside.
He he doing just about any and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
And he's a bigger than you think. You think because
he in the slot. Yeah, he bigger than you think.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
And listen, and one person, one man is rarely breaking way.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
He plays through contact.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Ojo, I point the ball, run after the catch, can
play through contact. You put him inside, you can put
him outside, shall across. I mean, hey, you run outside routes,
you can run inside routes, over under, jail breaks, smoke screen,
bubble screen, jail break, whatever you want to call him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
He could do it everything everything, you know, Devontae Adams.
So you know when you when I saw him cads
like that, he pulled up like a track run that
does when they running the hunt and they pulled something.
Oh you you hurt your real hurt him for real.
So he's definitely not going to be playing in this
game Saturday because that's too fast. But whatever grade it

(01:05:34):
may be, grade three, grade three is the worst right,
And I think that he might be between maybe a
grade maybe grade two.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I'm say one and a half, grade one and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Definitely he doing for a year of grade three, because
I mean he pulled that off the bone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Yeah, so that's why I say maybe maybe grade grade
grade one and a half. I don't even know if
it that's a thing, but it's nowhere nearer three. But
I know he won't be able to play in this game.
If anything for him, I would shut it down. I
would shut it down and make sure I'm ready come
playoff time. Make sure I'm ready to come play off time.

(01:06:14):
There's nothing else for him to prove. You know that
this far going going.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Into the season. You've done. You showed what you can do.
We know what you can do.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
You're still the Davante Adams are old, and the opportunities
present themselves you got you ain't got nothing else to prove.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Hey did he sign it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
One year? There?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
He signed a two year?

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Okay, hey, well he bo

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