BEST OF NFL Week 3 Part 1: Eagles RUNAWAY W, Daniel Jones MVP Buzz, Browns SHOCK Packers

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver the best of NFL Week 3 reactions! Unc & Ocho break down Jordan Davis’ incredible walk-off field goal block and touchdown for the Eagles, Daniel Jones leading the Colts to a 3-0 start with early MVP buzz, and much more!

0:00 - Rams vs Eagles

9:41 - Packers vs Browns

21:36 - Jaguars vs Texans

30:12 - Steelers vs Patriots

33:08 - Colts vs Titans

38:30 - Buccaneers vs Jets

43:20 - Falcons vs Panthers

47:27 - Dolphins vs Bills

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The Detroit Lions go into Baltimore and thump the Ravens. Ocho.

(01:38):
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a very very long time. They physically physically beat them up.
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chat oh yo yo. The Lions go into Baltimore. Run

(02:45):
the ball for two hundred and sixty four yards. Woo, No,
let me take that back. They ran the ball for
two hundred Hold why many yards? Did it?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
To twenty four? They ran the ball thirty eight times
to twenty four.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
David Montgomery had twelve rush attempts for one hundred and
fifty four yards and two touchdowns. Had a long of
seventy two, So he's averaging what twelve twelve or so
he's average damn near thirteen yards of carry in an
NFL game.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, hold on, not just hold on, just not an
NFL game.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
We talked about the chief, We talk about the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Ravens, raven any NFL game. Were playing against the Ravens
who identity they're known for what they known for their defense.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
They're going to be physical jack golfers.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Jared Goffer was twenty of twenty eight two hundred and
two yards, an interception, no excuse me, a touchdown, no turnovers,
zero sacks. Lamar Jackson had an ok night throwing the
ball one of twenty seven two eighty eight, three touchdowns.
Oh joe, but he was sacked seven times. Yeah, and
it wasn't. They wouldn't bringing no pressure. That was four
man pressure. A lot of that, A lot of that

(03:52):
was three down. They would bring what we call three
down scan, three down spy where they would rush three
and then have somebody like right there where you going, Lamar, Lamar, Yeah,
inspire and they're getting pressure with three rushers. That's unacceptable
and can hear me. Let me tell you something, bro,
that's that's three games. That's three in a row. That's

(04:12):
three games. And the ball is in your left hand.
So obviously he's a right handed player. That's a non
dominant hand arm. And so now they see the ball
is away because he's getting ready to step on and
the ball just got slightly away from his body and
Hutch from the back. You gotta you got a sense
that they're gonna attack the ball, now, Henry, that's what

(04:32):
they do it. They say, you know what, hey, we're
not gonna let you run our ass over which you
can't go nowhere with that the ball.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, and obviously Hutch is coming from behind two yes, mind,
and he had no idea, and he's running to the left.
So as a running back, you learn that from pee wee.
You learn it in high school, you learn it in college.
If you run into your left, you always keep the
ball and what in your left hand. But obviously somebody
coming from behind you got you gotta keep that thing
high and tight, high and tight.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh, Jo, I've been trying to tell I see the
thing is a lot of times, O Joe. If you
just a fan of the game, and you just watched
the game, my team won. We're not trying to hear
what you're saying. I said, Now, y'all can blame it
on Henry's fun and you can blame this, but Baltimore,
your defense is an issue. Baltimore, and I told you

(05:23):
this the other night when you played Buffalo. You gave
up two hundred and sixty four yards in the fourth
quarter to the Buffalo Bills. You gave up. You gave
up twenty two points in the fourth quarter to the
Buffalo Bills. I said, you've got an issue now, Baltimore
Ravens fans. You know, because a lot of you guys
have said, Man, we need a new DC. Zach Orr,
we need a new DC. I don't know what you need.

(05:44):
But if somebody would have told me that the Lions
was gonna come in there and physically beat the Ravens up, yeah,
I said, I bet you're doorknob.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
To a bucket of combinor. That won't happen.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, absolutely, Listen. I wouldn't think.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I wouldn't think the Lions would come in and physically
dominate and pose their will on Ravens, especially offensively.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I knew they would score points.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I just have.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
And I felt the way the game started off the
first in the second quarter, they was going back and forth,
and I thought to myself, I'm at the cigate bob
for the first half.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Man, I kicked my feet up, but it's gonna be
a bar and burner. They finna be going back and forth.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
But obviously Lamar Jackson hold on to the ball a
little bit too long, trying to make plays down the field.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Taff got to go off head.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
You got to know where to go. And if you're
not gonna go, if you're not gonna take off, throw
the ball out. About lived. So you live to see
another play. So you live to see another down.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
But you're putting your team in in in unfortunate circumstances.
You're going from first and first and ten to the
second and eighteen, from second and eighteen to third and
twenty something, So there are really not many plays that
you can run from that point, and so you lose
the offensive series.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, it ain't that many plays in the playbook that
you got for third, third and fifteen, thirty, twenty, third
and twenty five. Oh joe, you might go a whole year.
A defense might go a whole year. Maybe have one
drive in which they give up a drive of ninety
plus yards the Ravens gave up to in this game,
to a ninety six yard drive and a ninety eight

(07:10):
yard drive.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
You know how hard that is to do un you
know how long.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
You know how hard it is to string together a
bunch of players and drive the whole goddamn field. They
had the ball for eleven minutes. Now that's very difficult. Yes,
that's very difficult to Ay Montgomery had a day. You
know that that monkey jumped on his back like here
running the goddamn four hundred. Jamiir Gibbs had a day. Listen,

(07:34):
and this is it's all come down to. You're gonna
have games like this, right, but they got to fix
the turnovers. You got to fix the turnovers.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
They listen.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
The Lions should have had almost three interceptions.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
They dropped them. Yes, they dropped them.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
And this is what has always harted the Ravens. Once
they make it to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
They play very well throughout the season, and they get
into the into the first round of the playoffs and
they do stuff like this. They turn them all over.
They need to fix these issues. I'm glad it's early
in the season. Is only week three, so they have
plenty time to get this stuff together. Derrick Henry, they're
gonna go back. They're gonna start from the basics, high
and tight. If you got to run the ball like
god damn tick Barbara did when he played that, so

(08:14):
be it.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Or keep it it look here or keep it in
your right arm if you feel more comfortable, which if
you go back and look at Emmy Smith, you'll never
see him with the ball in his right arm. Right,
he kept everything in his left because and he the right,
but he felt more comfortable. Go back and look at it.
Don't matter what side of the foot, what side he's on.
He taking a toss to the right, he got it
in his left. He taking the toss to the left,

(08:36):
he got it in his left. So, King Henry, if
you feel more comfortable with it, now, it's gonna take
away the stiff farm opportunity. But Emmett wasn't really really
wasn't a stiff armed type of guy. That is your
weapon is the stiff arm. And you know you got
the ball if you're on the if you're on the
left hand side, you're on the right hand side. It's
gonna be hard to stiff farm somebody coming from the inside.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
But you gotta do something like it's mental now, o Joe.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
You know how de o Joe, you drop a couple
of passes in the game, it's in your head.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It start bothering you.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's in your head.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Hey, you start you start trying to body catch it
and like, Okay, I'm gonna look it. I'm gonna look
it all the way in and they think the marble
upide your head. Hey, we all have been there. If
you catch your man, if you call passes for a living,
you've had a day. And when you're like, damn, just
don't throw me the ball, and here I am, I'm
open again.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Ball beat you right.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Up, Ball beat you up, o Jo. This is what
we normally say about the Ravens. Do the other teams
they beat people up. Yes, they smash people for the
for the Lions to come in here and do what
they did. Jared Golfer was twenty of twenty eight two
Oh too a touchdown. God, excuse me, no interceptions, no sacks.

(09:51):
I do understand. Matti bee Quay and Vanoyd, two of
their best pass rushers. Wasn't there. They hurt. But that
ain't got nothing to do with that running Now, that
ain't got nothing to do. That's that's a running is
about physicality. It's about domination. It's about moving a man
out of the way against his will.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's what that is about.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
And for somebody, if like I said, if somebody would
have told me this is what was this is the Okay,
if you tell the Lion's gonna win where they can
score points, Okay, Okay, I don't think they're gonna win
in Baltimore, but you know if they I can't.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I can see that. But if you tell me.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
They're gonna come in and get dominated like they got
dominated tonight, I wouldn't believed that.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Not running the ball like that, O Joe.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I haven't seen the Ravens get run on like that.
That's physically that's physically dominated. And you know, I thought
Lamar was throwing the ball. Well, like you said, O Joe,
that clocks gotta go off a little quicker. The clocks
gotta go off a little quicker. Bro. They ain't seven
on seven. They're not gonna let you back then pack
the ball and let you just pack the ball and
just let you pack the ball.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You gotta go, hey, after one pat, let it go.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, they got it. Either you take off or let
it go out of bound somewhere. But I think you
got to look the Lions defense man, and that was
a buggaboo last year, O Joe. You know, they score points,
but they had you know, they had to seemingly outscore
everybody this defense this year. Look, they gave up thirty points.
I don't even really count that last tear that was

(11:18):
late in the ball game because.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
They had a goal line stand. They stuffed.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
They stuffed Dereck Henry, they stuffed him, and then Lamar
tried it and they stuffed Lamar. Give them credit, they
bowed their backs when they had to bowl their backs.
But I'm concerned about the Ravens defense. I'm concerned about it,
Ojo because, like I said, they gave up two hundred
Ojo Man, two hundred and sixty four yards in a
quarter man. That's over five yards of the damn game,

(11:43):
and you gave up twenty two points.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So now look at this what they gave up today.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
They gave up a drive of sixty seven, ninety eight,
sixty and ninety four yards, two touchdown drives of at
least eleven plays or more.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
One of the drives took ten and a half minutes
off the clock.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
And listen, and one of their strong suits, one of
the strong suits of the Ravens always been being able
to stop the run. The issues with the Ravens has
always been the back ends. It's always been the back end.
But now it look like not only the back end
is struggling. Hell, the front of the struggling too. If
you can't stop the run and you can't stop the
goddamn pass, well shit, you just out there for goddamn decoration.
And I love hey, let me tell you something too.

(12:23):
I love Dan Campbell. I love Dan Campbell and his
willingness not to give two flats drops a pigeon drop
on concrete what down it is. I'm going they playing
for down football. Dan Campbell is playing for down football
no matter who he's out on the field.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
He really just don't care. Well, you got to understand
the type of game that you're in. He's like, okay,
well my defense really hadn't stopped them. They're going up
and down the field too. And so the likelihood, so
the likelihood of a field goal game beating the Ravens
is not very likely. And we're down in this situation
where fourth and one, we're fourth and two. I trust
Jared Goff to make the right decision. It's the same thing.

(12:58):
That's why the Baltimore raye. If you understand the type
of game that you're in, that's what you have to do.
Within the first driver, or to you understand what type
of game it's gonna be, O Joe, this is gonna
be ay, it's gonna be one of those thirty point games. Yes,
and so kicking punting the ball and kicking field goals.
That's not how we're going to win this game. I'm concerned. Look,
the turnovers will always be an issue. Obviously you can't

(13:21):
turn the football over. But the ease in which the
Lions move the football tonight is very concerning to me.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Let me tell you something. This is the good thing.
This is a good thing for the Ravens. How many
offenses are like the Lions. That's in the NFL, maybe
two or three, two or three that can go up
and down the field and throw it. Maybe the Packers
are one.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
You don't have to be like the Lions.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
If you got to go in up against everybody, gonna
look like the Lions against that defense.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I don't know. Everybody don't have the personnel.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
It's all about situational footballer you have.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Uh, okay, let's let's let's let's okay, let's just say
the AFC.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
You got the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
That's one team that's capable of doing exactly what the
Lion did tonight.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's one the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Who else.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm throwing Cincinnati out because they don't.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Have whoa whoa, whoa, don't do that, don't do that. Yeah,
they got Burrow. They're not doing anything. It ain't too
many even even though mahomes them can't run the football
like that. It's still my home. And come playoff time,
you're not betting. You're not willing to wager anything against them.
And the here is the other thing, Oh Joe, we

(14:37):
know the Ravens don't play their best football in the postseason,
So I don't need to look like the Lions did
tonight in order to beat them, because guess what, I
got seven sacks in turnover there we know in the
postseason when the Ravens lose, what do they do? Turn
the ball over at least once a lot of occasions
is too. More So, I don't really need to look

(14:58):
like the Lions in order to be the Ravens, because
they're gonna give me some cheap possessions. They're gonna put me,
they're gonna turn the boat ball over in their territory
and give me a short feel and you know how
more millimims in the playoffs. Man, once that thing go ay,
they can run seven fourteen points on you in a hurry.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm shocked, Chad, I'm not blue job of y'allah.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I am shocked with the ease in which the Detroit
Lions ran the football. How they protected their quarterback. I mean, bro,
they had four hundred and twenty six. I mean they
couldn't get them off the field.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh Joe, yeahs. Matter of fact. You know what I
will say.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
I will say this as someone who watches the game
of football, understands the game of football. Even though the
Ravens lost the night, they were dominated somewhat defensively on
the offensive side of the ball. Obviously Lamr taking six
seven sacks. Whatever it may have been, an interception, it
should have been damn near three, maybe even four interceptions
a game like this. Lamar had a game like this,
and then here going on a street gunk for the

(15:59):
next eleven to two games and them saying, sax, he's
taken he breaking those for twenty and thirty yard games.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
So here you have a game like this, but then
you don't.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
You don't chastise him for having a game like this
or trying to make plays and trying to extend plays,
which he's extremely, extremely good at, because the rest of
the year, he gonna break all those the rest of
the year, those seven or six sacks.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
They're not gonna be sacks.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
They're going to be gains in which he has ten
or more yards to keep a drive going.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
But here's the thing, though, when he was taking those
sacks last year, what did his mom say, run the
damn ball and run the damn ball.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
See, so you know, sometimes he get caught up here.
I can throw, Yeah, we know, you can throw the football.
But in situations like this, I mean they're dropping, they're
dropping seventy coverage. Yeah, you gotta give them credit, o Jo,
because they were stopping him with their front so they
didn't sacrifice the back end so they didn't have to
drop that safety down to deal with to deal with

(16:55):
King Henry. Give those guys credit. Now they're gonna have
to do a better job of finding Bateman. It seems
like Mark Andrews getting his legs back. You know, he
came out that very very serious leg injury a couple
of years ago, and so he's starting to look like
Mark Andrews again. Until likely comes back. But I was
just shocked. I was I mean four hundred, it was

(17:16):
seven or fourteen. Excuse me. It wasn't like the Ravens
were bad on third down there were six of eleven,
but on third down and then you go three or
three on fourth down.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
And think about in the red zone, if I'm not mistaken,
the goddamn lines of what four for four, five and
five in the red zone every time they got down there.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yep, man four, four or five. There's four or five
in the red zone. Okay, four or five and the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Was two or four.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
That's hard to beat.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean, you think about it both teams.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean twenty of twenty eight passing for the Lions
twenty one to twenty eight for the Ravens, seven point
two yards per past play, six point seven. My concerns
has been watching them the first game and the see
them like, Okay, I don't want to make too big
of an issue, but that defense concerns MEO, That defense
concerns me.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
I mean, they listen, that's gonna be their Achilles Hill.
That's gonna be there a Killers hill until they until
they fix it. And the people saying, oh, we need
a defensive coordinator. We need a new coordinator.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well you got that, you got who you got right now.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, but listen, every time every time I hear that, listen,
we talked about Ben Johnson and and and AG and
AG obviously being gone, but you shall have the same personnel.
And we saw we saw, we saw that tonight. We
saw that tonight. Offensively, the creativity are still there. Them
boys ran the goddamn triple option. Huh man, they ran

(18:37):
a triple option. And defensively they made some great plays.
Brian Brian Branch all over the place.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Almost had an interception.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'm not sure what happened to that. That was an
easy one too. But I mean, they look good. They
look good on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
And oh Joe, and I'm looking at Detroit and then
I watch how green Bay dominated them.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, green Bay dominated them.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't even know if they had two on ofer
your total offense they I was like, what the hell?
And then I watched them drop fifty two on Chicago
last week. Who just turned around and dropped thirty eight
on Cowboys? Cowboys ain't saying much. These Cowboys defense hadn't
been good for an extended period of time.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
But Detroit, Detroit.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Offs and we knew offensively and not another look Green
Bay of the division game on your division game is
a tough Now when you start when you dropped, when
you dropped thirty forty points on the division opponent that
knows you.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
You play each other twice a year. You know them,
they know you.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
And it's not like I understand Ben Johnson, that's your
new head coach, but hell, you just coached against him
for the last five years as offensive coordinator for the Lions,
so you got film on him.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
You know what he likes to do.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what it's all saying done.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
We thought they lost both coordinators, they was gonna take
a step back. It doesn't look like they're gonna take
a step back. It looks like they're gonna take a
damn giant leap forward. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
And the funny thing about it, huh is, you know,
you know how the saying goes, especially in the beginning
of the season, any given Sunday on You're right, any
any given Sunday, especially in the beginning of the season.
Right now, teams offensively, they're not even into their form yet.
They're not into their form defens is is a little different.

(20:13):
All you're doing is you're really reacting. By the time
you get the week five and six, and everybody offensive
is hitting their stride.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Head.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Look at Kaitlin Williams. Even though they were playing the Cowboys.
We had doubts about Caleb Williams. Now he's starting to
come into his own looking like the quarterback that was
drafted in the first round. Now again, I know it
was a cow Excuse me, I know it was the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yes, but still, this is what we've been waiting for.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
That's what I want to see, Oh Joe, When I'm
playing an inferior opponent and I know they bad on
one side of the ball, don't you want to see
your side of the ball dominate the side that do
you decide that you feel our inferior. We know the
Cowboys defense is a very good so I expected everybody
to get healthy. If you if you're struggling offensively, the
doctor would tell you play the Cowboys and call me tomorrow.

(20:58):
You'll be You'll be just fine. God, You'll be able
to do whatever you want to do. They can't consistently
generate pressure. The pass defense isn't very good and it
hasn't been very good for a very very long time
because they can't generate pressure. If you can't put pressure,
or I don't care who your secondary is, unless you're
dealing with Hall of famerly historically great players, you're not

(21:20):
gonna do anything. You've got the pressure the quarterback. The
quarterback gotta go down. The quarterback has to be in fear.
You have to speed the quarterback up. But Detroit twenty
four first down, oh joe, they had they got won
by penalty, eleven of them passing, twelve on Russian third
down officiency, they were fifty percent on third down. There
was one hundred percent on fourth down. Sixty six total plays.

(21:43):
See the Rais. The Raverigs ran into the problem, O joe.
They had nineteen Russia teams. Now you know, damn well,
the Ravens normally have thirty thirty five, forty rusher temps.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, but listen, they had those rush attempts like that.
It's a high volume of rush attemps when the goddamn
run is actually working.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
But don't don't don't let listen a lot of times,
o Jo, Guys tell the story like you go to it.
You know, you see a lot of professional athletes. Now
some guys make a lot more money than others. And
then you get caught up in a situation y'all at
the club. Let me get a bottle, Let me buy
around for everybody. You ain't got money like him? No, no, no, no. Oh.

(22:22):
You go to the casino, Ojo, and they playing a thousand,
five thousand dollars a hand. Well, bro, you supposed to
be playing one hundred dollars a hand, and you get
you get caught up in you get caught up in that.
The Ravens got caught up into this situation, Ojo because
they seeing that. Okay, the game is gonna be high scored,
but Ravens, y'all go for it. Y'all can sco points

(22:42):
and run the ball? Yeah yeah, yeah, go ahead. What
you wanted to say?

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Hold on, I just heard I just heard you say something. Now,
excuse my ignorance. I heard you in comparison to tonight's game,
the casino part and playing thousand, five thousand dollars hands,
that's a that's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Oh yeah, for sure, you get caught you ay, oh, Joe,
you know you're going the club and they look it. Hey,
I got it like that too. Hey, let me get
a bottle. Hey, you know we don't got we done,
got us a table. Hey, let me get a bottle.
Let me get that as suspade, let me get this,
let me get that. You try to impress people.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Hold on, what the hell can you play a thousand
or five thousand dollar hands?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I played?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Hold on, I played blackjack in Vegas and it was
a twenty five dollar table.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Twenty five dollars, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
But they got twenty five thousand dollar tables too, and
they got fifty thousand dollars table, and they got private
rooms that they'll let you play up to a probably
one hundred thousand a hand.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
What yes, Who the hell has that kind of disposable
income to play one hundred thousands a hand?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
A lot of people, a lot of people. That's how
you that's how you win millions. You can't win millions
playing five hundred dollars hands if you trying to win,
if you it takes money to make money. So if
you're trying to take money off the casino, you're gonna
have to put something up. They say, in order to
catch a lion, you gotta use your best goat so

(24:02):
if you want big bucks, you gotta put big bucks up.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Oh hell no, just.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Saying, man, Detroit, they impressed me tonight. They impressed me tonight.
The Ravens at home and coming off a big win
against Cleveland, and look they drop forty on Cleveland, and
we think Cleveland's defense is good, wore him down because

(24:29):
they turned the turnovers and then you know you're going
three and out and now you're putting your defense on
the field back on the field. No matter how great
your defense is, they will wear down if you continually
put them trot them out there. But I think this tonight,
I think we ought to make this more about what
Detroit did do than what the Ravens taking to do.

(24:49):
We can say the Ravens defense is concerning. We can
say Lamar took too many sacks, so he needs to
speed the process up. Either take off running with the
football or throw it away. But somebody put them under
the gun. Somebody put them in fear. That was the
Detroit Lions. Detroit Lions ran the football. They did a
great job of protecting Jared Goff because he's not the

(25:09):
most mobile quarterback and he.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Was never under the rest and listen guy like him.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
If you don't a guy like him, O Joe, if
you don't put him under the rest, he'll pick your
ass apart.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
And then twenty and twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Matter of fact, the fact that he's not a dude
threat quarterback. You got to get pressure and get him
off the spot. You got to find a way to
make him comfortable. And if you blitch, you gotta be careful.
If you blitz, they gonna kill you. If they blitch,
they gonna kill you because offensively, they already got the
hot reds already built in because he's.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Not a mobile quarterback.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Matter of fact, I forgot. I forgot to tell you
I was being nice at night. You shouldn't be saying
foot or ball because you were ravens.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Tell me out to night.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Matter of fact, I feel bad for you because not
only did your team lose night on Monday Night, your
team gonna lose next Monday night too.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Now team the other team gonna lose next Monday.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah we got a doubleheader, yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, you you're gonna get a double whammy, a double whammy.
And I could get, I could get, I could almost
gamantee you that.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
No, I mean, think about it, oh Cho, they only
missed four tackles on defense. The Lions improved the twelve
and two in prime time games under Dan Campbell Gibbs,
The Montgomery U k A. Sonics and Knuckles recorded a
touchdown in the same game for the level time.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Both had two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
They broke the tie with Packers great Paul Horning and
Jim Taylor, both of those guys in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame, and Hugh McIlhaney and Joe Perry. Joe
the Jet Perry was once the all time leading rusher
in NFL history. If I'm not mistaken for the most
such games of any running back tandem. So o cho. Uh,

(26:55):
I don't know if you know this, and you probably
agree with me. A Hutchins is about become the paid
non quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Eight Yep, he's second Lamorrow twice right.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Uh, I know he got it once, he got a
he had.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I know he had one sack. Hold on, let me
see now, he had one sack, one tackle for lost
force fumble.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Uh Muhammad had two and a half sacks.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, Hey, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
I don't know about I don't know about the highest
paid but he'll get close to it because he ain't.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
He ain't getting more than forty seven?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Why not he he not getting more than forty seven?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
And they just gave They just gave Michael.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Mike is.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Mike Is, Mike is a transcending talent. Aiden Hudcherson is good.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
He's really good.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Eight Hudcheresson, before he broke his leg, he was on
favor to be defensive Player of the year.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Hold on before he what before he broke his leg?
And there go your answer? And why he's not getting
more than forty seven?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
They got a rod in his leg and the rod
is not a leg and struggle why I want to
tell you now? See, just like I told you last night,
I told you see he gonna be out three to
four weeks. That did not tell you that. Now, Cat,
y'all listen, y'all listen to a guy that's never been hurt.
Why would you listen to a guy that's never been hurt?
About Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
I never said CD wasn' gonna be hurt. He had
a high ankle spring.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You said one week, you said one week.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
He's not getting reevaluated until fourteen days right, I said
three to four weeks.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You said one. Did you see that man laid on
the ground.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Hold on, you gotta listen to me. You got to understand.
I saw, I saw he got caught up in attackers.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
He got caught up under the person's body weight actually, yes,
bodyweight is white, while he had a high ankle spring.
If CD were to come to me and I'll let
your boy, I can get him back in the week.
But the fact that everything in that structuring environment, they
like to do things their way with their people, it's
probably gonna take three to four weeks for him to
get back onto goddamn field.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's gonna take that. I mean that thing stretch took.
Like I said, yeah, say exactly the way CD got hurt.
That's exactly the way I hurt my ankle the very
first time with a hiaker spring. Lewis tackled me the
same way, but it was like a hip drop tackle
Ojo and did the exact same Oh Joe, I'm talking
about the exact same thing. And every time I would
get my ankle that's how I hurt my ankle, And

(29:12):
it was like they just knew. I never rolled it
over the top. I always rolled in, oh man, and.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Then they put that weight on it, all that pressure.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, yep, o jo ain'd Hutchinson. Isn't he younger than Michael?
He's probably a year or two younger than Michael. He
can't be more than twenty four, O Joe.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I mean, but you got to understand. Listen, now, come on,
come on. You know the game very well. They love
to use certain things against you. As as great as
great as he is, as great as he was, and
becoming even gonna be a rookie, he's gonna be Rookie
of the year.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
That was his rookie year, right, and he was cutting up.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
He was cutting up his rookie year.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, cutting up his second year.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Second year, but third year, Oh yeah, think Ojo because
he young and guess what her local kid?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Where is he from? Ojoe?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
That way?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yes, he went the Beschigan he plays.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yes, okay, okay, well all that plays a.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Part in but yes, you know how owners work, you
know how management work. Man, when it comes when it
comes time to well you know this happened.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
To you, we don't not with them.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
I see, I see what you mean. Okay, I got you,
I got you, I got you you good.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
We let that one go.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
The Ravens one turnover, allowed, seven sacks, miss twenty tackles.
John Harbor, the biggest problem is we didn't play good
run defense. That's not going to be good enough. That's
bad run defense. That's not who we are. I totally agree.
It cannot be who we are. We gotta get better,
better pack. John Harbord must be is John Harbord? Was

(30:52):
he listening to me talking out Joey? We gotta get
a better pass rush. There's no doubt about it. That's
not that's that's not going to be good enough. Ever,
I'm sitting there watching the game and I'm saying I'm
saying this from I'm like, I'm just I'm just sitting
there like bro y'all got to put the pressure on

(31:13):
the quarterback. I don't care Jared Golf. If you let
him sit back there in the pocket, Yeah, he'll do
just what he did. Did you did you see him
last week? Who did they play last week? Chicago? O Joe?
He completed eighty two percent of.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
His passes for five touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Now, I don't know what twenty eight, twenty or twenty
eight is, but it's damn good. Yeah, I don't know
what percentages off the top of my head, but it's
better than sixty percent. I know that. And he I
mean and he was underned rest and o jo And
like you said, at some point, you gotta stop something.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
You like the guy, oh o jo? You like fighting,
so you know boxing. The guy hits you with the jam.
He hit you with the straight right, he hit you
with the check, he hit you with the left, he
hit you with double cut. So you gotta stop something.
He hit you with everything. Yeah, so damn Either block
the jam, but you gotta do something. He can't tag

(32:12):
you to the body with Damn Son, Ravens, you gotta
stop something. Either you rush the pass and put pressure
on the quarterback or you stop to run. But you're
not beating anybody if you let If you give an
offense anything they want, they're gonna take more than what
they give you.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
They gonna they gonna take you to town every time.
They gonna take you to town every time. The funny
thing about it is the Ravens don't have to play
an offense like the Lions every week, so probably I'm
not even sure who their next opponent is. But they
probably gonnambarrass him. They probably gonna score thirty plus.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, oh, they go, they go to Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Now watch what happened.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I mean, no, no disrespect to the Chiefs, No disrespect
to the chief Now watch what happened. Guarantee you it
wouldn't be at Molly woped the damn Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Ravens member Miley woped the Chiefs because guess what oo,
in order to disrupt the chief what must you be
able to do?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Pressure Mahomes, pressure Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Uh. The Ravens had to play in Kansas City one
and two where Mahomes Patrick, where they've never beaten Patrick
Mahomes since two thousand and eight. The Ravens are zero
and three at average and and arrowhead averaging, allowing an
average of twenty nine points per game. Derrin Henry also
fumble again like I said, it's in his head now ocho, Yeah,

(33:35):
I mean three consecutive games like one like, because now
people are going to attack the football. They said, hey,
get that football out. The same thing happened to with
and Dre Stevenson yesterday against and the.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Pittsburgh he had three right, three or two?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, yeah he did he did, and so now they're alert.
When you're in the game, Hey attack the football because
he'll give it up. He'll give it up. But I
agree with everything John Harball said. John Harbot basically coroborated
what you and I started talking about. The past rush
wasn't good enough, the rush defense wasn't good enough. Because

(34:13):
that's not good enough. The Ravens are better. We think
the Ravens still. Look it's one game on Joe, yes,
but there's there's some cause for concerns for me for
what I saw, because I've seen this in two out
of three games. We saw Josh Allen in the second
half go up and down the field like the Lions
did basically the entire damn game. And you're talking about

(34:33):
who's gonna We forgot about Buffalo. We think Buffalo is
gonna beat there when it's all said done. Absolutely, As
you're talking about the guy, you're talking about a guy
that got Lamar Jackson's leg and he's six five and
he's two hundred and fifty pounds and he could throw
the ball through the eye of hurricane. So now, what

(34:55):
what what do you mean? What what do you what
type of team at the end of the day. What
a team you want to have, Ravens, right cause I
just want you to know now, this thing don't stay
up them forever. The store closes. The store closes. So
y'all need to cash in some of these opportunities. Yeah,

(35:17):
they really need to cash in some of these opportunities.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Oh Joe. They need to go in the free agency.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
They need to find a bona five pass rusher, They
need to go go into the draft. But they got
to get somebody. When the Ravens were at their best,
they had Terrell Suggs. They had a guy that can
put his hand in the dirt and go get your
quarterback and defensive player of the year. They had a
ray Lewis that was a defensive player of the year.
You had an air Red that was a defensive player

(35:42):
other year. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Listen, we not those type of players aren't coming around
no time soon.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
But I'm saying, reads, but I.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Look at us what we had on you in two thousand.
We had a Peter Bowl where we had a Michael McQuary.
We had a Rob Burdinette. We Hey, you gotta have
guys that can go get hunt the quarter out. Yo,
you gotta hunt the opposing quarterback. You got this an
absolute musk. You got the too good if you don't
get them on the ground.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
But the identity for those teams also during that time
where you were playing, when I was playing the Steelers,
their identity it was their defense. Yes, the identity for
the Ravens back then it was their defense.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
And then you you feared having to play them. I
didn't personally.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I'm just saying they instilled fear before you even played
the goddamn games.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
They were that good. Yes, that those days are long gone.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Look, and this is not a not Look Quan is
roquands an all pro A nice, he nice, But you
gotta get somebody that can hunt the quarterback. You got
to get somebody that can hurt the quarterback. That's what
you need. You look at the team Philly, what can
Philly do? We think green Bay is gonna be there,
because what can green Bay do?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Hunt the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Go get the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
You look at the teams that we think that's gonna
be there when it's all said and done, all of
them we believe can go hunt the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
And you've got to be able to hunt the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Now. I understand that Van Noy and Matdoweek is injured
and so when they come back. But okay, and I'll
give you that. Okay, that's why they didn't generate pressure
getting to the quarterback. But I can't offer you nothing
or why they gave up two hundred and twenty plus
yards rushing. I got nothing for that, Ojo, I got
nothing for that. Oh Man, John Harbot. On day Henry fumbles,

(37:31):
I don't think it would be a Norm'm going forward,
but we got to get it fixed. That was a
blind shot. Still, we just want to protect the football.
If you remember o Yo, every time that he's fumbled.
If I'm not mistaken, it was the Cleveland I don't
know because he both of them. Now, Ed Oliver got him.
He was trying to step on him, and A said
I can't get you down. So he raked the ball out. Yeah,

(37:52):
but the ball was in his left arm tonight. He
didn't realize Hunch was behind him. It's like Boom got
the ball out. Now. I don't know if he had
it in his left or maybe it was right because
I remember he read read through the hole against Cleveland
and they punched it out. They ended up getting it
back if I'm not mistaken, But he's got a it's

(38:13):
in his head. Yeah, it's in his head.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
And the bad thing too, playing running back and you're
fumbling the ball. You don't run the same. You don't
run the same. You don't run an aggressive Absolutely run
is aggressive. Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
The Ravens have one hundred eleven points this season.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
That's the most points through three games by any team
in NFL history with a losing record. They're leading the
NFL in scoring. Oh show, they got one hundred and
three points. They're one and two. The next two at
one of the last few, one eleven. They have one
hundred eleven points. They're one and two. The Colts and

(38:52):
the Lions. Coats are three and Oh they got one
hundred and three points, the Lions two and one. One
hundred and three points. Let that sink again. So they're
averaging thirty five thirty seven points a game. Yeah, and
got a losing record.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
So it's still early.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I tell you.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
That tells you your defense.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
You heard me, Huh, it's still early, though, it's real early.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
It is early.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
It's early.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
That's why you need to get it fixed now. Yeah,
you're right, before we have You don't want to be
having this conversation in December, and your damn sure don't
want to have it in January. No, so let's go
ahead and have this conversation sometimes, don't you. You have
to have a conversation, an uncomfortable conversation before all hell

(39:49):
break loose.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Before twenty twenty five, no starting quarterback had ever lost
multiple games in which they had one hundred and forty
passer rating in a single season. Lamar Jackson has all
rady lost two such games. Through three, he had one
forty four point four and a Week one loss against
the Bills, one forty eight point one and a Week
three loss against the Lions. Now he does have the

(40:12):
highest quarterback rating in NFL history. Nobody would have ever
thought that if you told me that that I think
he could play quarterback in the NFL. Yes, But if
you told me he was going to be an MVP
level quarterback and have the highest passer rating, nobody would
believe it. Because if they believe that, if they if
they would have believed Lamar, this is what eno. If
they believed Lamar would have turned out like this. Did

(40:33):
he taken the number one overall?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Absolutely, the fact that he had to wait till the
god damn bottom of the for the first round, and
the Ravens tried it back in to get him, and
then they had the nerve to say, you want to
at the combine, you want to work out as a receiver.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, catch it went some routes.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Wow, excuse me, come on, that's why, hey, listen, that's
why it's so surprising.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
He had the work his tail off to get to
the point where he is now.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Though, let me show well, I'm just not a runner quarterback.
Let me show you not only my dual threat. I
could use my leg, but I can use my arm too,
So now the secondary is not running the secondary is
I mean, excuse me.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
My primary first thing now is to throw the ball,
which is why you're seeing some of the sacks.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I'm trying to extend players to.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Show you I can throw the ball. But let's get
back to what you do best. If you go through
progression and it's not there, go ahead and get them,
y'all all ass go ahead and get them yards to
see another day.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
You got to. I think it was a blessing in
disguise because maybe if he goes early in the first round,
he doesn't work as hard because, oh Joe, you know
when you got something to prove, not only to yourself,
because you want to show them. They wanted me to
move to wide receiver. They wanted me to play running back.
They talking about I'm a running back that can throw.

(41:50):
They really said I wasn't. They didn't do that to
Tim Tebow. They let that man play quarterback. Now once
they found out he could really play consistent quarterback, they
ask him to move.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
But y'all asking me to move wouldn't even give me
an opportunity to play it. Let me go, give me
an opportunity to play quarterback.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Then if I can't play quarterback, and if I choose
to move, I'll do that, but at least give me
the opportunity. So and he's worked his ass off and
became it's become an obsolute dime dropper. Now that two
point throw, that was a frustration throw, Ojo. That was
a frustration because you know, damn where Lamar Jackson aint
gonna miss a wide over receiver?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Boy that much?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
He was just like man ye uh Lamar. After game one,
after the game said, I feel like week one was
a wake up call, not.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Just the loss.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Many boyfriend to come back and do. And I ain't
gonna say it no more. I ain't gonna say it
no more. They're gonna be alright, They gonna they gonna
be alright next week.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
They are got the work cut out for you know,
Kansas City, a Kansas city trying to get back, trying
to put strings and wins together.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Hold on Kansas City on three stele one that beat
the Giants last day, they beat the Giants. Yeah, bet
the Giants. And they they call it for russ head
over there already. Uh, I know, I know you did.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
We got that coming. We're coming. Nick Bosa is out
for the season. Oho whether toward ACL the Niners or
three and oh the Niners looked to be curaged. This
is nothing new to them. Through Week three, they've already
dealt with injuries. Bark Perdy missed the game, George Kittle
has missed two games, Juwan Jennings miss the game, Brandon
Aiyuk has yet to play. Looking at their injury rankings

(43:39):
in the playast two years and twenty twenty four, they
were the most injured team in twenty twenty two, they
were the ninth the most injured team. In twenty twenty one,
they were the third most injured team in twenty twenty.
They was the most injured team in twenty nineteen, the
sixth most injured team in twenty eighteen, the fourth most.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I don't know who their training staff is, but.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Something right, something right.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Ain't no way you're supposed to your team is supposed
to be that injured. I don't know what type of
training they got. Maybe they got them doing bands. I
don't know what they got him doing. Yo, but this
is unacceptable.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Listen, It's not just there, It's just not their team.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
I'm I'm I'm.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Curious and I'm not understanding and why the injury rate
in the NFL is continued to go up. And I'm
talking about non contact injuries. I know Bosa obviously he
was blocking and you know it gave out, But like, like,
come come on, man, like every every week is somebody
not Jake Harris hurt he done.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Towards a c L non Achilles, ain't it Achille?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I mean all I'm like, for god, damn, those.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Are So that's the thing that that that's that puzzle
orthopedics because there's no rhyme or reason because think about
oh Joe, the guy just get ready to take off
and collapse.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, I don't understand, man.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
You know sometimes you know it's just a normally it's
to push off. Yeah, you know, a cl you know,
sudden stop. You know, you get you know, foot got
caught in the ground, you get tacking from the side,
you get swiped or something, uh, the leg that the
negos back.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But man, something that this ain't add enough?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
O yo. I mean these athletic trainers u uh and
the sports trainers the way condition strength and conditioning, they're
supposed to be some of the best in the world.
And you got a built Joe you got I mean
the forty nine ers gotta be worth seven eight billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Y'all gotta get y'all gotta get some people. Y'all gotta
get some people in there that know that that that.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
A I mean, I'm add up.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I'm right here.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Something that add up?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
You heard me?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (45:45):
You say you say the forty nine you doing?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
You do realize that to be a strength and conditioning
coach you have to have a degree.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
And that's the problem, and and that, and that's the problem.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
That's why everybody keep muffrom getting hurt because they that
ain't got nothing to do with it.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Does Yes, hold on, listen to me.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
You go to school and you learn about all these
things that mean nothing would have come to playing that
violent sport. You should bring somebody in there that's played
the violent sport and was able to do it without
getting hurt.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
That's what you need to do.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
That no degree, under that premise, all your great coaches
should have played in the NFL. How many great NFL
you say, somebody that played? Hold on? Hold on?

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Now we talked, we talk We talked about preventing injuries.
Now you you going from apples and orange.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
So in other words, you saying that because you played it,
didn't get injured.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, never nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
But who's built like Ojo? So you ask if you're
asking people to to do what you did when they
don't built like you.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
They don't have the biomach mechanics like you.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
They might not be built like me, right, they might
might not have my makeup on my DNA.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
But based on their size and the structure of how
they built, I'm able to fenagle the system and what
they need to do to ensure they don't get hurt.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
That's what I do. That's what I'm good at. That's
why I understand on how to the longevity. I'm fifty seven,
I still ain't been hurt, and I'm still active like
I'm hey. I get active out there right now, playing soccer,
I'm playing pickleball, I'm playing tennis like I'm still active.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Nothing wrong with me.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Nothing requires you to be as violet with the sudden
start and stops like an NFL football player.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So the fact that I
was able to do it with nothing happening nothing.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
I wish I could give Joe Burrow my toe. I
wish I could give CD Lamb my ankle I could get.
I wish I could give Nick Boston my knee. I
don't need them, man, I'm telling you I can prevent
this stuff, man, but nobody want to listen to me.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Man, Yeah, that's probably not gonna that's probably not gonna
happen on.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
I know it's all good. Though, it's all good, it's
all good.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I don't know if they I don't know if they
want forty seven year old knees and forty seven year
old ankles anyway, so.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Oh yes, yes, you do, you want these?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
You want these?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Hey, this ain't nothing but magic, but hey, look at
the knees. You ain't never seen no knees like this.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Hey, as suit as they got a they're still forty seven.
So when a twenty seven year old get out there
running stop.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
No no no, no no no.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
If I put these knees and I put these feet
on anybody that's in today's NFL, man, please, man, please
about magic.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
They're bad you Huh what happened?

Speaker 3 (48:35):
What happened to you when you got that from Yeah?
They Oh yo, let me hold it.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, yeah, they gonna be moving too fast with your
with the forty seven year old knees and ankles.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Uh, I just tied myself into forty the other day
on You won't believe what I ran.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I probably wouldn't know, yo, what you run?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
I ran a full four four four seven four seven
right now.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
That's faster than seventy three percent of the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Now, I'm not saying that I could play, but the
fact that I can run in a straight line that
fast at fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
That means something I don't know, O Joe.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
You run folkso but uh okay, I'm gonna take your
word for it.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
You just heard Fred Curly tell you I beat him unk.
That was just last year when we was training that
tropical park down here in Miami.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
I'm telling you I can go in a straight line. Boy,
I'm here, I'm here to deal with.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I'm gonna take your word for it. Oh yoe. Yeah.
After three weeks with veteran quarterback Russell Wilson under center,
the New York New York Giants may be considering a change.
Brian dave Ball told reporters today, we just watched the
tape here. We're in meetings with players right now. It's
not all on one guy. There's multiple reasons why certain
plays don't come out the way we wanted them to

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come out. When pressed about whether that means that quarterback
changes on the table diamonds Dayball all said, we're evaluating everything.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
The Giants initially a planned to take their time with
Dark's development. However, the team struggles a medal or in
three record only made the call for Dark to replace
Russell Wilson grow louder, and then.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Listen, you call that earlier.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
You called it earlier, so that eight weeks, That eight
weeks might turn into four, that eight weeks might turn
it into five depending on how the next two games go.
I don't think the ball the ball will will go
to him this early in the season, because do you
really want to throw him out there right now and
mess with his mess with his conscience?

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Mess up?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
You told me you can't learn nothing on the bench.
If I'm losing, should not be losing with the guy
and getting them some experience.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
And I know one thing, we'll also throwing them out
there to the wolves like that. You know, you know,
you know what you can lose too. You got damn confidence.
You can lose, you goddamn confidence as a young rookie quarterback.
Go out there and get beat upside the head if.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
You want to.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
If I go out if I put him out there, oo,
and they lose confidence. He wasn't a guy for me anyway.
So I need to see that.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
So I need to see that sooner or later.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Hey, well you know how it is, though I do
understand how it is.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Hey, it's already a shit show as it is. You
zero and three certain things aren't going well. The officer
line ain't really giving Russ the kind of time, ample
time he needs to be able to orchestrate the offense.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
And then you throw the rookie out there. Listen.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
He might be able to make some plays, He might
be able to make some plays. He might show flashes
of what we saw in the preseason, But them goddamn
defenses and exotic stuff and coverage that he gonna see
once you get in there and realize, oh, this ain't
the preseason, or it's not as easy as it was
back then. Now we're scheming. Now we're trying to Oh no,
it's different, it's different.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Ocho on fourth down, rush through the ball at the
end zone. Why would you do that? Don't you want
to give you okay, even if it's intercepted, you turn
the ball over. Don't you want to give your guy
at least a chance to make could play on the ball,
O Joe, Yeah, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I mean there's some things a veteran quarterback you understand.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I never understood that a guy on fourth down he
throw the ball in the stand, so he throw the
ball out of bounds. Well, who gonna catch it over there,
ain't gonna get you a completion, bless you, right you right?
I just I just thought when you draft a quarterback
and it seems to be that they guy that they
wanted all along, they weren't sure that he would be there.

(52:30):
They seemed various static that they were able to get
him when they got it. Yes, you know this, o Joe,
when when you start to move teams, because you got
to realize this is this is Russ's fourth team in
four years. Right now. They don't see you as the
long term solution, right, they don't, And especially if they

(52:53):
got a guy, especially if they got they drafted a
guy in the first round on Joe. You know, they
see him and they were just hoping we could get
at Maybe he can give us a year. Yeah, maybe
he can just give us a good solid year.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
If I would, I would, I would go to I
would go to Jamis. I would go to Jamis. If
you want to make a quarterback change, I would go
to Jamis and continue to allow Mahomes did it with
Alex Smith, you know, allow allow him to continue to develop,
being able to get those mental reps from the sideline. Yes,
it's time for him to get in there. Okay, you

(53:25):
know what, once, don't close don't close the door already,
and you just signed James. He just signed Russell Willison
for one year deals and then had them sitting on
the bench, you know, for no reason in case something
goes wrong with Jackson Dard.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Not wishing any injury on him from that part. But
I think if if if you're gonna go with Russ,
go with Russ. If you're gonna, if you're.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Gonna make a change, make the change to jamis, allow
him to get some reps in to see what he
can do. You know, Jamie could be magic for five
six weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, you know, so, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
It's it's it's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I've always felt that Jackson Dart was gonna start sooner
rather than later, especially if they started out. This is
the worst situation that could have possibly happened, is that
you're oer in three and you know that fan base,
you know the articles that they write, you know, talk radio,
what they say. It's it's uh. I just I just

(54:25):
didn't see him surviving. I just I just given that team,
I didn't see him being able to put together enough
wins to keep Jackson Dart on the bench for the
entire season. That's it all that. I mean, we can
say whatever we want, but I just didn't see with
that team with the offensive line, that they were gonna

(54:45):
be able to win enough games. And we you know,
I gave you the schedule last night. It is not
easy at all. It is not easy.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
I mean, they got they got the Eagles twice in
a three week span.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
That's crazy. And shit, I don't know Joe, I mean,
Brian day Ball, it seems to be louse. They Look,
here's the thing. If I'm Dave Ball, let me tell
you why I go go Jackson Dark. I drafted him.

(55:19):
I don't want somebody else to coach you, right, because
guess what's gonna happen on Joe. They gonna find my
ass after this year if this thing gonna get turned around. Oh,
it's kind of like you put you put somebody through
college and then all of a sudden, like you don't
get to reap the benefits.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
You gotta be able to read some benefits from this.
He's like, I developed this guy, I like this guy.
I really got him, and then don't and somebody else
is coaching it.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
And the funny funny thing about it is and not
only if somebody else is coaching them, whatever coach they
do bring in, what if he's not their guy.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Who's Jackson Dark? Yeah, when you come in and they
got a first round draft pick, he's your guy because
they're gonna ask you, what can you do? What type
of system that you can make sure he flourishes in?
Because that's the first thing I want to know, because
he's the guy. We just took a quarterback in the
first round on Joe. We're not really trying to go
do that. We believe that. We believe this guy so

(56:13):
now because remember how he how he got the job.
He was the quarterback whisper. So I need another quarterback
whisper to come in, Josh McDaniels. How does he keep
getting jobs? Oh, he can work with young quarterbacks. Remember
he got the job and and and uh the coats,
because he's gonna work with that. If I'm not mistaken,

(56:33):
it's gonna be Andrew Luck turned that down and then
he go get the Raiders job. He's gonna be able
to work with you, Derek Carr. So when you get
the judge, look whomever's coming in you go to You're
gonna they're gonna ask you, what, how, how are you
gonna work? How are you gonna get maximized Jackson Darky?

(56:54):
What what type of offense are you gonna run? How?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
How quarterback friendly is it? Offense?

Speaker 1 (56:58):
How? What? What type of my vince is this? That's
what they're gonna want to know, Ojo. They just lost
to the Chiefs. They're at home at the Charge they
got the at home versus the Chargers, and then they're
at the Saints. Then they're at home versus the Eagles,
at Broncos at Eagles home versus the forty nine ers
at the Bears home versus the Packers at the Lions.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Well that's heavy. Hey, that's heavy. And the funny thing
about it is is Dave Ball. I'm not sure if
he's on the hot seat, but if he is, absolutely,
oh well listen he gonna be. He gonna make a
quarterback change rather sooner than later because he got get
coaches fired, don't you know that?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yes? I do remember how he got the job because
he was supposed to work magic with.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Who Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah, so that was ay. They saw what he was
doing with Josh Allen, big kid Daniel Jones, six four
six five, got nice legs, can run, can move mobile,
I can move the pocket, I can design design runs
this quarter a.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Hey, I can do the same thing for Jackson dard Hey.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Well, listen, if anything, you better make a move now.
Listen to be able to buy yourself some time if you're.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
On the hot seat, because listen, if you continue to
lose games, stand standing standing ground on Russ, you already
know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Yes, if you wait too If you wait too long,
you don't have any type of success this season, you
out the dough.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah, So if I'm if, I'm if, I'm gonna, if
I'm lead, look, I want to go down my way.
My way is that we got a quarterback that we
took in the first round. I believe we can coach
him up. O Jo. Can you do any worse? The
worst thing you can do in the NFL is lose.
I'm losing with a guy. Russ is not going to
be here next year. Do you believe Russe will be

(58:59):
on this roster next year? Do you believe Jackson Darnall
be on this roster next year? So you probably should
go ahead and playing right. I mean, oh your look,
you took the guy they wanted, the guy I just
don't see, uh is gone. I mean, look at what

(59:23):
sa Quan's doing and did in Philly. Look at what
Daniel the type of success Daniel Jones and make. Maybe
it's the Giants organization. Maybe it's top to bottom. Maybe
they don't maybe they're not putting. Maybe they're not putting
in a put in put it in a a an
environment where they can succeed.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
I mean, well that's hard to say. When Eli Manning
was successful, being able to win two Super.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Bowls, so they got more talent then than they have now.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
If and it's you know, Brandon Jacobs running the ball,
I think I think they had Tiki running the ball.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
So they had they had had some.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
They had a nice little thing going Brandon Jennings, and
then I forget the other guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
What was the other guy named.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Forty four running back? I forget his name? Uh my Brashaw, Yeah,
my Brashaw, yes, yes, yes, Look at that defense. I
mean they got some nice defensive lineman. I mean, you know,
straight ain't walking through that door, Tuck. Oh see, they're
not walking through that door. Appears they had they had
a nice little squad right now, this is not gonna

(01:00:31):
get it done. It's it's really that simple. And you
look at that schedule guys Chargers, Saints, Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners, Bears, Packers, Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
But that's that's a that's a that's a horrible gauntlet
they have to go through.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah, Victor Cruz Plexico. I mean, look, they got some
big look and I think the thing is offo O joe.
People are looking like, man, Malik Neighbors had all those
catches last year, all those yards, and the quarterback supposedly
weren't near as good as what we got. Now, why

(01:01:07):
this man got four five catches? Why this man always
they can't get it, can't five ways to get him
the ball? You gotta look at that, Yeah, because that's
what the fans looking at. Man, he's one of the
top receivers. Now he just looked. They got the man
looking like a guy and we know he's anything but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Nah, absolutely yeah he's not that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Hey, they didn't know what that also falls on the
office of coordinator too, That falls on him because you know,
obviously is a rookie you're gonna surprise everybody. Can you
still have the same success when they know you're coming.
That all comes down to office officer, coordinator, putting your
players in position to make the place.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
It's it's, it's, it's it's simple.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Every other team that has a number one receiver, they
do it extremely well. The Ram dude pooping the cop.
God damn Tampa doing it right now with the Mago Buka.
It's it's, it's possible.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I don't know, Ojo. I might be tempted to start
him at home.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Get get it, get a fans up this cheer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
For I'm really tempted to start him at home because
do I really want to start him on the road
in New Orleans? I damn sure don't want to start him.
I damn sure don't want to start him against the Eagles.
You don't want to start him on the road against
the Broncos because the one thing the Broncos can do
they can get after your quarterback, after your quarterback. Yeah,
then at the Eagles forty nine ers, oh ya, I'm

(01:02:43):
real tempted to start him this week. I really am,
because look, I would love I would love for it
to be perfect. Ojo we we have a game, we
have the buy. I get him an extra week to prepare,
that would be ideal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Right, But yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
We we we, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
I'm curious that I'm curious when they get the practice Wednesday,
I'm curious to who's taking the first team.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Reps that that that would tell us all we need
to know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I don't know were gonna get an opportunity to know that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Oh, we're gonna, We're gonna know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I fly to New York tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
You the practice, No, no, but I'm flying to New
York tomorrow to do something with MYLIK neighbors.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Oh okay, okay Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
So you know, you know I'm gonna be nosy whatever.
I have to go to the inner Miami, uh New
York f C in the MLS game. And what I'm
doing is for for FIFA. Well e a f C
twenty six and MYLIK neighbors.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Is with me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
So you know I'm gonna be nosy. You know I'm
asking which is I think the problem is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Earlier today, Darius Slaton preached patients with Jackson Dark Whenever
the Giants decide to turn him over starting quarterback. He's talented.
He showed himself to be able to learn fast. I
think he's capable of being a good NFL quarterback. If
we have a lackluster performance, give him some time, give
him some grace. Don't show up and boo him in
a game or two if he doesn't do well. I
expect him to do well, but I'm just saying it

(01:04:13):
might not give him time to grow, give us time
to jail. Let him be an NFL quarterback. Let him
figure it out what that is. Give him a chance
to become a good quarterback. That's something that I feel
Daniel Jones probably didn't get a chance to become a
good NFL quarterback, which is something Jackson Dark which that's
something that I hope Jackson Dark will get a chance

(01:04:33):
to do if he does get the opportunity to play.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Brood just o Jo.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
People are not patient anymore. Those days are over when
you can get a quarterback, Oh Joe, you groom him
and think about it. Steve Young saught behind Joe Montana
eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine, ninety ninety one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
For five years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Aaron Rodgers sat behind Brett Farr for three years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Yeah, that ain't happening no more. No, it's not. It's
too much money involved, right, because you take a guy
in the first round, Oh George, contract fully guaranteed, So
you don't guarantee they got twenty million. Now by the
third year, I got to make a decision. Am I
about to give this got three hundred million? Yeah, so

(01:05:27):
I got to I've got to find out think about it.
Geordan Love. Geordan Love sapt for two years. The third
year after players third year, oh Jo, they got to
break him off. Yeah. So the days of sitting, oh Jo,
where we could sit because the quarterbacks weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Making that kind of money money exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Na, money's them coming to play, bro. Hey, you got
to get out there and learn. You gotta learn on
the job. Hey, you gotta learn on the job like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
They do infants, when infants go swim and take swimming
lessons in the water.