Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the Best of NFL Week 7! Unc and Ocho break down Jalen Hurts and the Eagles finally finding their rhythm in the passing game, Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa getting benched by Mike McDaniel, and the Detroit Lions dominating the Buccaneers.
0:00 - Bears def. Saints10:37 - Pats def. Titans16:02 - Browns def. Dolphins23:52 - Eagles def. Vikings33:59 - Packers def. Cardinals39:21 - Panthers def. Jets50:14 - Lions def. Buccaneers56:58 - Seahawks def. Texans
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Ram beating Jags thirty five seven. Stafford threw five touchdown passes.
Travis Hunter gets his first one hundred yard career receiving game,
and he also had his first touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But YO, know what they doing.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what
happened today.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How many snaff did he play on defense? Two three?
I know he broke up a pass from Davonte.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Matthew Stafford twenty one of thirty three, two five touchdowns,
no sacks, no turnover. They ran the ball twenty nine
times for eighty nine yards, Davonte five for thirty excuse me,
five for thirty five and three tubs. Ferguson had one
for thirty one and a tub. Munthfield had one catch
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five yards and a tub. Trevor Lars was twenty three
or forty eight two thirty six, one touchdown, he was sacked.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Lambman had one and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is that Carneval lake Son from the Steelers. Yeah, he
said looten Chad, He's correct him. He said his booty,
so correct him. So y'all talked about, oh it's wrong,
(01:32):
it's bout tat. I know that's how it looks like
it should be pronounced bout taste. But that's not what
he told the media. So go look up what he
told me. Google that, y'all google everything else. Y'all jump
on here to try to prove, Oh you're in our room.
Go look it up and then you can come back
and apologize to us later.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Listen, But it looks like it looks like it's French
to me, right, I took, I took, yeskri. I'm gonna
pronounce it as as if it's French. I'm gonna call
him bou check.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Y'all look at chat. Go look it up and all
of y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
If somebody's pronounced this pronounced that, then you can apologize
to OCHO now because y'all quit, y'all don't left one
of y'r old well you and OO was right. Y'all
will never do that. But y'all quick and joephare y'all wrong?
Y'all wrong, go go to and this is what he said. Now,
y'all will get mad at the man because that's what
he said. The pronunciation is don't ask him. But anyway,
(02:34):
back to our NORMALUS schedule, pro Joe thirty five to seven.
It looks like. It looks like to me that the
their Super Bowl were the Chiefs on Monday Night, because
they looked like Stirfrid.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Says, what are they doing? Let's what are they doing
with trap? I'm curious because everything seems to be up
and down. One week he's playing more on defense and
he's playing less on offense. One week he playing on offense.
The next week is playing less on defense. It's like
they're kind of confused on what they want to do
with them. I need I need my boy, Brian Thomas Jr.
(03:08):
I know you're gonna see this. Maybe I need you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I need you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Got to come out with those you got to come out.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I need be b I need you every week, every
week to be exactly who we know you are. You
need to build off what you did last year and
come in this season and do the same thing When
things are going well. Trevor Lawrence has to be able
to count on you at all times. He needs to
be able to put on a blindfold and know I
can throw the seven and I know I can count.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
You need to be like birth control. You need to
be like birth control.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Every time he can count on your ninety nine point
nine percent of the time.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
At times, you're gonna make mistakes. Mistake's gonna happen, drops
it gonna happen. Minimize them, minimize them, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
But the player that you are, the player that I
know you're capable of being. You got to be that
twenty folk.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That no, no, no, no, don't be talking about oh uncle gretsive. No,
y'all jump y'all last in the chat, or you said
it wrong. You said it wrong. No, go look it
up now, y'all looking it up now you oh uncle
gressive y'all jump y'all lass on there, cause y'all so quick.
Oh don't know what he's talking about. I'm just telling
(04:21):
what the guy how he how he told the reporter.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I said, I don't don't, I don't. I don't like
saying I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say it like a
French So.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But they y'all get mad.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, I want y'all to jump in there and say, uh,
you was right, y'all quick to blow up my Twitter,
blow up all my feeds on social media, Uh you
was wrong?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Why would't I right? Y'all don't have the same intensity.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Hey, they apologize. They said, were sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm just that's what he said on y'all.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Now if I some people say, okay, sometimes it's sharp,
it hasn't e sometimes it doesn't. So he said, is
it sharp or is it sharpie? It's sharp? Oh, I
thought it was sharpie ll I told you it was sharp.
So he said it's booty. But y'all get mad at
me because I thought cut this felt because when I
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first started mate l U O Joe, I thought it Bouquet,
That's what I mean. But I knew, you know, with
a name like that, I'm like, that's a French. You know,
obviously the French. You know, we got New Orleans French,
you know. But anyway, Uh, what's going on with Jackson Villochoe?
(05:39):
First of all, ask how many snapped did a trail
play on defense?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Because he didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
He didn't, he didn't register anything. He had a pass
defense though he had a past a PD. Yeah, if
you're not gonna play in both ways and he's not
gonna be beneficial on both weeks, why did you trade
up to get him? Hey, listen, why'd you give up?
(06:06):
You gave up next year's number one. Your guess is
to move up like two or three spots. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Listen, if you take someone that high, if you take
someone high, he gonna be full time somewhere. And if
you if you're gonna play him on both sides like
you promise, like you promised him, I'm gonna use him
to where we picked him as a number two pick.
I'm going to feature him somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Offensive. You're gonna you're gonna be on offense full time.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
We're gonna have certain packages, probably on third down, we're
gonna put you in there. You're gonna go against the
third receiver sometime, the second whoever the hell going to
goddamn flood, that's who you have to face.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I'm not sure what they're doing. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I'm confused. He played fourteenth on defense. He played sixty
plus snaps on offense. Yeah, so that's seventy four snaps.
They had fifty five snaps total on defense. I just
don't see him playing one hundred for one hundred and
thirty snaps and being effective. I don't not in an
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NFL game. I mean, listening it out and see all
the dv's I see Chris Harris Junior. I see a
Kiev the Leeb, I see Sharon. I see guys that
made Pro Bowls, all decade players. I see those guys
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and they're talking about Man, it's hard to go back
because you need to get in the rhythm defensively, the
backpedal to switch the transition. Oh Joe, it's not like
you're playing one good receiver one week and then you.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Might play some guys that's not very good.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Every guy that you go against on Sunday in the NFL,
A lot of guys that you win against on Saturday,
they're not in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You're going against Jefferson, You're gonna gets Chase, You're gonna
get CD, You're gonna gainst Pickens.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You're going against rasid Rice. You going up against Davonte.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You're going against a j You're going against Pittman, You're
going against Johnson, You're going against Keenan Allen. And then
guess what, not gonna beat pastor Tan, Not gona beat
Orang Jr. Not go beat Steingley, Not go beat Quittin Mitchell.
Do you understand what you're you're asking yourself and you
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understand how just how mentally you have to be locked in.
Oh Joe, you know, first of all, you gotta be
locked in. But when you going against one of them dogs,
you better be on your business or they're embarrass you
and they're trying.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
To and and most of the time every week, it's
gonna be a dog on every team, every team.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Very soften when.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
When you play a game, regardless of what position you play,
whether it's receiver, you're gonna be facing the dog, whether
he had if you, if you, if you're playing receiver,
you're gonna be facing the dog at dB no matter
what side of the ball you go to. So you
got you got to be on point. But they're not
using them to be effective. Let alone, not help him,
(09:18):
but help the team. Gotta help him, you got it.
He's just he's the second pick in the draft. You
would think his usage would show just that, and it hasn't.
It hasn't the date, not yet. And I understand.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
How I mean, I don't know if this year they're
gonna fully integrate him and let him play every snap,
every down.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Mm hmm, yeah, I understand. I understand bringing the player
along slow. But here we we we were going in
the week seven. Well we're going in the week eight.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Shoot. We had we halfway through the season. Listen, brother
leon Colm, you know he know he no better than me.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He got a great offensive mind because he was on
the staff, you know. Offensive that's where that's where his
butter is breaded. That's where his bread is buttered. Got
me talking like, oh Joe, that had a bit around
you too, low man, I ided help, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
The Bears moved to forward two Saints dropped at one
and six. The Bears twenty six Saints fourteen. Caleb Williams
fifteen to twenty six, one hundred and seventy two yards,
no touchdowns, won an exception. Oh but DeAndre Swift nineteen
carries above twenty four forty rushes two hundred and twenty
two yards. Spencer Ratler twenty of thirty two two thirty three,
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two touchdowns, three picks.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Can't turn the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Over like that, bro, And when your team is not
equipped to overcome your mistakes Russia's seventeen carries forty four
yards for the Saints offense.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Spencer Ratler also lost a fumble, so that was four turnovers.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Gotta beat you to overcome That'll get you. Chrystal Lobby
had one of his better games. Five catches, ninety eight
yards of touchdowns, Johnson for five for seventy nine.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Damn heat, I needed one more catch. What did you
like about what you did? You see see any of this?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
S DeAndre Swift is running the held up.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The ball again.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
With DeAndre Shift running like that that, it brings balance,
It brings balance, boom. We can rely we can rely
on Deandres Shift the do what we need to do.
Office lea on the ground so it makes throwing the
ball that much easier. I know Kate Williams did have
an interception, but outside of that, he played somewhat of
a clean game outside of the interception, and they did
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what they needed to do do in the game.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
They're four and two. I'm not sure when the last
time the Bears have been foreign to and look this
good offensively. Hell, they playing the goddamn rainstorm last week,
won the game. They come back this week.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I know they're playing the Saints. A lot of people say, oh,
that don't care, You're playing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Not that good. I told y'all, I told.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You two teams that maturation process between Kayler Williams and
god damn Ben Johnson. He's going to be able to
maximize his potential understanding what his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Strengths are with his creativity, all right, and just starting.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, and Ratler had three interceptions. I see Edmunds had one,
he's a linebacker. And Montell Sweat he had one. He's
a d n No hold on sacks. Who got the picks?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They don't show pick Oh yeah they do.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh, Bayard had one, Edmunds had one, and Nick right
end right, I don't know if it's that's his first name,
he had one.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They just oh yo. The Saints are not good enough
to overcome turnovers.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
There are not very many teams equipped in the NFL
that could overcome four turn let alone the Saints.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, but you got maybe two or three teams.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's it. Maybe it all depends on when they turn
the ball over. Where they turn.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They can score on a high volume. They can score
on the high volume.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Of imagin your question who they playing?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And they turned the ball, Now that matters too. Now
that that matters as well.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
You turned the ball over against the Cowboys. You turn
the ball over against uh the chiefs man.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You might pack you might well pack your bags.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Early, turn the ball over four time against the packing
bags early.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Exactly. The Patriots beat the Titans in the Revenge Bowl.
Drake May threw for two hundred and twenty two yards
two touchdowns. Rayle's first game against the franchise that fired
him back in January of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
They did a number. They did a number on them.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Today, cam Ward fumble for the second consecutive game. He
has five fumbles this season, and he threw a pick.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well A.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I love brother cam Ward, but the same issues that
we had in the same conversation we had with Will
Levis and turning the ball over and not giving his
team a chance, cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Is actually cam Ward is worse. If you go look
at the number through the same starts, he's worse than
Will Levis.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, you got to give you a team a chance.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And Ojoe, you and I talked about it. Brow Bro.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You can't keep turning them all over. You can't give
keep giving up these pick sixes. You can't keep putting
the ball in harm's way. Because I don't care how
good your defense is. They can't consistently overcome bad play from.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now you can, can you don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
This is why I advise guys stop talking.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We tell we he said, you know, y'all know what
he said. We butt he.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Hey, hey, but listen with I like like like two uh.
You say stuff like that, your play has to be
up to park.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
You can't be part of the problem. You got to
be part of the solution.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Through six games, the first six games of their career,
cam Ward has thrown for eleven hundred and one yards.
Will Levis had twelve sixty six. Cam Ward has thrown
three touchdowns, will Levis had seven. Cam Warred had thrown
four interceptions, will Levis two fumbles lost, cam Ward four,
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will Levis two sacks, cam Ward twenty five, will Levis nineteen.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
He got sacked twenty five times already.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Oh, heading in to that. It's more Now how many
times you got? Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now, he's gotten sacked thirty times. He got sacked five
times today, Jesus Christ. So we can add a touchdown
to him. He got four touchdowns, five interceptions and he
got now he got.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Another fumble loss.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Well, listen, whoever got the Titans on these schedule. That's
like a homecoming games. That's the game that's the game
you want to play with. You know you're gonna get
your win. Hey, the Titans in the Jets. If you
got the Titans of the Jets on your schedule, now
what chalk that up as a win?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yep? Hey, hey, don't worry about ward. He would us.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Hey, listen, you're gonna have You're gonna have game.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Nah No, nothing y'all did. Won't Mike Brabel.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It wasn't Mike.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
They fired Mike Brabel.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
This is rookie year, this is rookie year. Do we
do do we give him some grace because he's a rookie?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, okay, but stop talking.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Stop talking, because you make yourself look bad when you
go out there and playing like that.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
If you do that, they made the Patriots. Well.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Drake me, hey, drake me nice bro Yeah may n
o Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Twenty one of thirty three. Twenty one of twenty three.
It's the highest completion percentage in Patriots history.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Twenty one.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I think he completed sixteen straight two hundred and twenty
two yards, two touchdowns. He did get sacked four times,
but he turned the ball over Stefan Diggs seven for
sixty nine. Keishaw is it bout tee a booty?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm not sure how to pronounce it the right way.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But he had two for fifty five. He had a
great fingertail catching the end zone. Oh Joe Hunter Henry
four for thirty three, Austin Hooper two for eleven, A tub.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And Chase on.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Recovering fumble in the end zone, the one that Cam
wore tried to throw it slipped out the back of
his hand.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's booty booty, see y'all laughing.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That was like it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It looked like it should be bouta but it's boucher booty.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, boute he must he must be from New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Uh he is, he is roma Jack Stevens. They ran
the ball thirty six times one seventy five. You know
favorite wants to run the football. You know he had
that monster in Tennessee. Dad Henry, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You know you want to run that.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You know what I like to I like the I
like the fact that they went back to Stevenson despite
his struggles holding on to the ball.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, you want to play something, yes, yeah, coach, I
do hold on to the damn ball. You hold on
to the ball. You get on the field, you put
the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
On the turf.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You over here with me, choice is yours. The Browns
beat the dogs. Mike McDaniel bitch Tour late for quinn ewards.
He was twelve or twenty three one hundred yards, zero touchdowns,
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three interceptions, twenty four. He had a twenty four passer rating.
Tour has the most two interception games in the NFL
since twenty twenty two. Okay, this is what This is
why I tell you quarterbacks keep your mouth shut. Now
we're gonna have a conversation about your guy in Tennessee.
Now you remember your guy in tenni Say we that's
(20:20):
why you keep your mouth shut?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes U. Now back to tour. Oh yo, Hello, hold on,
hold on, I would let you.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I would hear what you said that your team, the
Miami Guppies or your let's go ahead, listen to it.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
When you when you, when you stand tall with your
head high, and you hold other people accountable and tell
us about things that are going on in your house,
a house where we don't.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Have the key to, so it's no way for us
to know what's going And that cel your chest.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
As that captain, you have to always be front of
the center and being the one be playing at your best.
You got to be playing at your very best at
all times. So what you're saying in front of the
media and your play it ain't matching up. It ain't
matching up. You can't be talking here but playing down
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here at the bottom. There has to be some some
some type of even keel where everything makes sense. Okay,
you know what, he can get in front of the
media and say some of the things that are going
on behind closed door, because once he touched that goddamn field.
He's that boy. He's doing his thing. But when you
play like that and on the opposite end trying to
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do that, it ain't It wasn't pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I was upset.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I was upset watching I was upset watching the game.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
We don't even have a chance, So we don't have
a chance to compete, let alone you're already going against
one of the better defenses in the league.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So officially, you.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Got to do that much better. You have to raise
your level of play. Tyriek is gone. He's not walking
back through that dough. He's not walking back through that dough.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And it wasn't like Cleveland did a whole lot. It
was just that you were so pathetic.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Your clee Miami offense was so anemic they didn't really
have to do anything because you gave him short feels.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You gave up a pick six. This is what you do.
Call Bill. David used to always tell us.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
My college coach say, Son, you praise in public, you
chat dins behind closed back.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Who whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa See
I forget hey, listen, I got I got it with
you today.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I'm prepared.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, he said, you chest, you chest, you chat dins
behind closed doors, you praised in public. Ocho. We played
the game. We played Alabama and m and uh. Coach
called uh. He called a quarterback draw on the first
the first two plays he called a handoff, quarterback checked
out of it, and then on fourth down he called
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a draw it again.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
We lined up. We lose the game.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
We're all around the team. Coach says, I've been coaching
twenty years and I've never said this before. You lost
me to get damn.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Just like that, he said, he got there, he got
there in front of the media.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know, we just got to play better. Look the
plays that we didn't make tonight in the quarterback position.
I trust him, I believe in him. That is not
what he said behind closed doors. That's not what he said.
But in public he knew he had to put on
a brave face. He had to put on a brave front.
(23:27):
I'm not saying to what you said. You should have
said behind closed doors to your teammates and keep the
media out of it. See, you can't spend it because
see when you say, when the media does this, you
absolve yourself of accountability. You see, instead of saying you, look, look,
I misspoke. Everything that I said. I could have said
to an individual or individuals that I felt that were
(23:50):
late or not being the best representative of the Miami Dolphins.
That should have never heard that. The media ears should
have never heard what I had to say. But when
he spent it and say the media try to spend it,
now he's absolving himself of accountability. I thought you were
saying that you were sorry because you was taking the
owners of accountability. But that's not what he did. And
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think about Ojo, he said that after throwing three pigs.
He follows that up again. Yeah, and so how do
I look at you? How do I look at you
if I'm a player, Ojo. You got to see on
your jersey. You're supposed to be one of our best players.
And a large part of why we're in effect about
(24:35):
visibly is because of your play.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I told you Chat.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I'm not sure, Chad, if any of you have been
in the structured environment and played a sport and you
look up to one individual, the individual who wears.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The sea on the chest, not only does he wear
the sea on the chest, but he's a leader.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He not only is a leader, he's supposed to be.
He's your quarterback. He's your quarterback. So you say some
of the things that are going in house about players
that are in a building, how do you think they
look at your neck?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
How do you think they look at you?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
On you?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And you know, you know how they gonna look at you.
They won't say it out loud publicly, but you know different, Yes,
they always look at you sideways. Now from now on,
even with a public apology and the top it off,
the top it off, it makes it even worse when
you come back the following week and you play like.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
That and you stunk it up again, you pull your
pants down two weeks in a row in front of
the public and took a dump on the field. Now,
first of all, oh Joe, I'm looking at you sideways,
because even before you open your mouth, I knew you
weren't playing well, and I kept that to myself. Now,
I could have put you on blasts or so when
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somebody say a tour with buns or cheeks, I could
have liked it. But I didn't do none of them. No, no, no,
But what did you do? You come, put us on
blasts and you stuck. You got to the meeting on time,
You was did everything right and you like stirf ride there?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So what was your excuse?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He Sometimes you can do all the talking in the world.
You can do all the talk in the world. All
the talking in the world don't matter.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But what does matter?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I know you want to do everything right before you go,
before before you touch this feel on Sundays. But all
that talking and all that means don't mean nothing. If
you go out there and you stick it up Sunday
at one o'clock, you still got to play. You still
got to exq as the exit nos. And the person
that has the ball the most, the person that is
able to handle the ball the most is responsible most
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of the time, whether you win or whether you lose.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yes to a now has two or more interception games
and most he has the most to intercept two plus
interception games in the NFL Since twenty twenty two, He's.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Done that twelve times.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's hard to over It's hard to overcome bad quarterback
play because you know why a Joe, You know why
chat because he has the ball all the damn time
unless you direct snap it to a running back or
a wide receiver, which is the wildcat.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
He touches the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
If he's playing bad, he gets hit, the ball comes out,
he throws it, it gets picked, he runs. I always
questioned Mojo, the man know he has a history of concussions.
He breaks away last year.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
What does he do? Ojo? He lowers his head on somebody.
I said, you got to be kidding me, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
The Eagles beat the Vikings the thirtieth ranks passing offense
coming into the game found this stride. Jalen Hurt through
three touchdown passes. Devonte Smith had a career high one
hundred and eighty three receiving yards and a touchdown. AJ
Brown went over one hundred yards and had a pair
of touchdown and Jalen Hurts three hundred and four yards.
The receivers were the second most of his career. I
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think it's his first three hundred yard game in the
last two games. So Jalen Hurts, he was nineteen of
twenty three, very efficient three twenty six three touchdowns. Uh
Davante nine for a buck eighty three and a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
A J.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Brown four for one, twenty one two touchdowns. This is
what you have to do when you can run the football.
Twenty three rush attempts forty five yards. Sa Quon eighteen
carries forty four yards. Got no choice.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Hey, it's so funny too, is Devontae Smith was going crazy.
He was going crazy and I could see the mannerisms.
I could see the body language from AJ Brown. He
wasn't going off yet. He hadn't got those t hadn't
got those touchdowns yet.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, you know, he caught the first touchdown.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
The scramble.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
They called him on, called him on the round. I
looked like I think it was a linebacker called him
on to He told him to go.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He took well, you know, scramble. It was a scrambler,
driller was nowt It.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Was a scrambling from But outside of that, he got
he got him in the game, he got involved in
the game, came back and hit him, came back and
hit him on a deep one.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And before you go any further, that was not a past.
That was not a rough in the passer.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh Martin, the Washington Commanders guy when he sacked dak
pres squad, It's not my fault.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
He didn't buckle his damn hellman, and I tackled his
ass and his helmet from his head. That is not now.
It looked there was.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It seemed like it was an incidental contact with the receiver.
So it was a five yard penoty. That's not rough
in the passer. That is not rough in the passer.
It's not my fault. Oh Joe, if you don't buckle
your damn helmet, I tackle you your helmet off. I
didn't rough you up. He's he didn't horse collarge. He
had him by the middle of his jersey and he
snatched his ass down, obviously. So that's all I want
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to say about that. Go ahead about the refs.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
You know, the refs when everything is going full speed,
they can't tell They can't see that. All they see
is the hand up high and the helmet coming off.
And you know they throwing that flag right away. They
throwing a flag right away outside ya yoe.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
They can reveal it.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That I mean because think about it when Jared Golf
when they called that touchdown back, they didn't throw the
flag on the field that came from the cologos.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Are you right right? You're right?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
But hey, I like what jensen Hurst did. I like
what he did because obviously listen, you quieted out. It's
again you couldn't run the ball. They say he can't throw,
he can't put it in the air, And what did
he go out there and do he put it in
the air. You're not gonna allow us to run the
ball like the Chiefs did in Super Bowl. Okay, hold
my beer, let me show you I can do everything.
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I can throw him too. Now what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Carson Wentz was twenty six and forty two three thirteen,
two interceptions. Jordan Adison had nine for a buck twenty eight.
George Justin Jefferson had five for seventy nine. He did
drop a touchdown, you know what you call him? Was
able to get his hand in there.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Uh Cooper, Cooper did a good job.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah. But here's the thing though, he's finding out it's
different on the island than it is.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Absolutely, especially when you're going against the one of the best,
if not the best, depending on who you ask, it's
a different.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I don't know, Joe, what do you think about that touchdown?
They and the field they called it a touchdown the
diving t J Hawkinson, But they reviewed it and they
said no, what.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Was the touchdown on?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I think because the ball didn't move when he frowned,
he didn't move, and all he did was bring it
back in.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
He brought it back in on on on the urn.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know it's they're saying. They're saying the ground helped
him secure it.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Come on, the ball didn't move when he hit the ground,
didn't all and all he did was he brought it
back into his chest as he rolled over to me,
that's a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
They're so inconsistent with that call. I don't know what
the touchdown or catch is and he got damn mode.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I don't know. I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I agree with you one of the percent because, like
I said, what I thought was a catch you know
sometimes they they they let it like his hands under
like bro he caught that, he caught it. But give
the Eagles credit today because Jalen hurts one of this
game with his arm nineteen or twenty three three, twenty six,
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three touchdowns. He was sacked three times, but he says,
you know what, I'm not gonna put the ball in
Harm's way, and he doesn't. But this is what it's
gonna take for them to get back to where they
want to be. This has to be this has this.
This has to be a regular This has to be
a normal occurrence. This can't be an outliwer. This can't
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be an anomaly. They're not going to let Saque win
the game. But that doesn't mean that doesn't mean you
don't attempt to hold you. I'm not gonna just have
him throw the ball, because think about O Joe. He
threw the ball twenty three times. He didn't throw it
thirty three, forty three. I still gotta make you respect.
Sake one and if I get one on one coverage,
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AJ DeVante.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Being ready, Yeah, I saw him do that today too.
I like that, and the replay was able to see it.
He saw one he saw one on one with AJ
Brown and real slowly. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Right there.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It was with that skinny post. He saw many skinny post.
He hit him on that skinny post for that touchdown.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Boom. I like that.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
That's going off script. That's going off script. No matter
what play is called, AJ Brown, keep your eyes on me.
If I see something, I'm gonna throw your number and
let you know what they do. Mhm h.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
The camera called Aj after scoring the second touchdown today,
this when you throw me.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
The F and ball? What the F is that? Just
throw me the EFN ball.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
After the game, Davante Smith said the play that result
of the seventy nine yard touchdown was there for them
all game. He said, here and his teammate said, advocated
for the halftime. After they scored, Jordan mile A Lotta
went to him and said, you call your shot.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
They do.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But O Joe, you you and I played a depending position.
John used to tell me now, I'm look, I'm gonna
take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
You was open. I'm gonna look now if I go
back and look at film and your hands wasn't open.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Hey, that's why you gotta be careful.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
You gotta be careful as a receiver saying you open
and really not knowing what's around you.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You got to be sure and you got to be definite.
It's what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Because if I come we come back to that play
and and you were open in the first court, and
we come back and run it maybe through, maybe in
a different formation, and and hoping we get the same
look defensively, boy, you don't don't lie at.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Me, hey, because I did that while I was in
the game. I said, man, John Rod was open. He's like,
He's like, tee, you weren't open. I said, I was open,
you know, I like he said, I tell you what
I'm gonna look at tomorrow. If you're not open, it's
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gonna be hard pressed for you to get you the passes.
By two series later, I came to him, I said,
ay t, you know that play he was talking about
we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I wasn't open. Since you put it like that, you
ain't gonna give me no passes. I wasn't open.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
But that's the thing. If you tell the quarterback, because
they're gonna trust you, I'm open. Okay, you said this, hey,
Coach Davonte said he's open. Oh cho, Citi's open. Okay,
you better be open. But I thought I thought Jayleen
Hurts played unbelievable football today. I thought he was decisive
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with his throws. We got outside the pocket, he was
accurate with his throws. AJ four for two touchdowns, Hey
Davonte nine for a buck eighty a buck eighty three
and a touchdown long as seventy one, a long as
seventy nine on eleven targets. But think about it, twenty
three over three hundred yards on twenty three attempts.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's not a lot of.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Attempt That's how efficient he is. That's called throwing the
ball with efficiency, with efficiency, making all the right throws,
and then when things break down in the pocket, I'm
not you know, I'm not gonna take off and run
with the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
He's looking, he's looking for guys to break. He looking,
he's looking to run the scram.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
With drawing people out, coin direction, which way to go
and coming back. A. J.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Brown had a good one when we had when the
when the play broke down to the right, hit AJ
Brown on it was third and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Oh many was out there dealing.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
And this is a good thing because now things change
most of the time, the way they play and the
one they want.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The way they won last year is sakwon.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Barkley had historic season running the ball and most of
the time for the Eagles, they would run the ball
to open up the pass. Well, hell, they not allowing
the Eagles and Saquan to run the ball the way
they did last No, maybe now what's gonna happen. Maybe
things are gonna They're going to win playing in reverse.
We're gonna have to throw the ball to open up
the God didn.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Run absolutely right, because they still aad. Okay, because I'm
telling you what defense coordinator said that he did that
last week. Let's see if he could do it again.
Because I saw Saqui do that, do what he did
last year for the nay of the season. Saquan has
a history. I'm gonna make him do it again.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Oh Jo.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
The Packers went on the road and they win in Arizona,
but it wasn't easy by the score of twenty seven
to twenty three. Do you see how they looked at
the first three three and a half quarters o Joe
Jordan Love was nineteen to twenty nine one seventy nine,
one touchdown. Josh Jacob thirteen carries, fifty five yards, two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
They win it. This is why you go get a
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
If I'm gonna make you the highest paid defensive player
in NFL history, the highest non quarterback, you know what
you got to do when you that guy, when you
are Miles Garrett, when you are a Michael Parsons, when
you are a T. J.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I need you to turn the lights side of the building.
I don't the first quarter, I don't care. Now I
need to keep them I need I need you to
keep them out of the end zone. Did you see
the relentlessness? You see how quick he beat that right.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Tack listen't worry about and he won't worry about no
holding him.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You don't worry about no what No, don't worry about
who holding. Don't worry about who No.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I pay you for As a matter of fact, I
pay you forty seven million. Run through the whole. That's
why he's that good. Michael is that good. That first step,
his ability, he could turn speed, the power, he can bend,
he can wax all, he can rip, he can play
over the guard, he can play I mean he can
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move up and down the line. He's too good of
a player. This is why you go pay Michael Parson.
This is why you give up quick Kenny Clark in
two first rounders for what you saw today. This is
what he should be because you got Rashan Gary on
the other side, you got Wyat. There's no reason that
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he really didn't do he Sometimes I wonder if Michael
really understands me.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I don't think he does. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And then, you know what, that's a good thing. It's
a good thing that he doesn't understand how good he is.
And he's just out there just playing football. He's just
out there just playing football with no inclination and how
good you really are. Oh, he had no sacks. He
had one sack. Excuse me, he had one sack coming
too the game. If I'm not mistaken, he had three
today and you already know how the game goes.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Me become in bunch of Remember I told you that
they're like Graves and bonetas they come in bunchy.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Three today now probably watching next week, you have another
three and then you look up. Before you get to
halfway through the season, you're damn it close to ten.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Out of the blue.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Out of nowhere, because the thing is you got Rashon
Gary on the other side, he could rush the pass,
and you got Wirtt push in the middle. Bro y'all, Hey,
meet me at the quarterback ready, Brett. Oh yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Meet me at the quarterback. Hey, we're
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playing sorry dv's Hey, Rod Ed, meet Minni's on.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
What we doing?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
What we do today? We my hug salute? Meet Minnian's on.
I was like, damn Packers.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But Jakobe recent played well twenty five and thirty six,
two seventy.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Nine, two touchdowns. Mark, Yeah he did. He didn't hurt him.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Trey McBride had ten catches seventy four yards, two touchdowns.
Mark Margaret hasn't had two catches fifty six yards thirty
five long. But in the end that that pass rush
was just too much. They were just relentless. Uh, what's wrong,
let's talk about it. Look at that Kwaid Walker a
sack of a half. Uh, Michah had three sacks. Sean
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Gary had a sack. They sacked the quarterback six times. Well,
that that's that's how it should be. You got two beds,
two good young pass rushers, in Micah and Rashan Garrett.
You got Walker who could rush the pass. You got
Wyat who can put pressure on the court of quarterback.
There ain't no quarterback should have time to stand back there.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
And pat that ball like the funny.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
The good thing about it is you want You didn't
have to deal with Kyler Murray, Who's who's a two
three quarterback. You're dealing with your Kobe Brissett, who's the statue.
He ain't going nowhere, he ain't going nowhere, he ain't
going nowhere. And you get the ball and get the
ball out your hands fast as possible. But when it
when it mattered, most the sacks came in, and especially
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specific Micat towards the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
But see that's what I need. I need you to
turn the lights out of the building. Somebody got to
cut the lights off. What good, O, Joe?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
What good is we?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Oh, we got a guy that got twenty sacks, But
then we allow them to go right down the field
and get a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
What good and the twenty sacks doing?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Me?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I don't care. And this is how I look at
offense and defense. And you can chat, you can call
me crazy, can you get done what you need to
get done when you absolutely have to. Oh, Joe, what
good is having a number one ranked offense and I
can't get a first down so the opposing team don't
get the ball back?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
What good is having the number one defense?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
If I can't get off the field on third down,
I can't keep them from getting in field goal rank?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But what did that do? I need it to matter.
I got money, but I can't get none out of ATM. Well,
no good. The Panthers beat the Jets thirteen to six.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Rico Daldell rico'dado still appeared to be more dominant back.
He had seventy nine ars yards rushing on seventeen carries
compared to Hubbard's thirty one yards on fourteen carries.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
We missed that that way. He was one of our
UH prize picks.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I told you, I told you you listened to him.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
But see I thought, But see I was, I was
thinking it was coming back here.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I totally don't worry about that man. Doubt Dado got
God damn he got the hot hand.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Always bet with hand.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, ninety six yards he was supposed to get seventy
nine ninety six.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
You got to listen to me sometimes, I.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Know, but I got Taekwan. Though Taekwan got he had
to get seven yards. He come one deep one Hey, uh,
Justin Fields was bit at halftime. I'm in favor of
long time backup tyd Rod Taylor. J just signed Fields
to a two year, forty million dollar deal, including thirty
thirty million guaranteed. They only needed six and a half
games to realize it's.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Not looking good.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Don't look like he'd had Listen, he had he was
six or twelve, forty six yards.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
My thing is, look, it doesn't seem like.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
He processes it as fast as you should.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
And if a quarterback, oh Joe, it's gotta be yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Yeah, it kind of It kind of makes me sad
a little bit because I understand what Justin Fields has
had to go through so far. Early in his career,
he had to deal with the issues over in Chicago
where they felt he was the answer. And we've always
had the conversations about quarterbacks that have gone through Chicago
and weren't developed the right way, didn't have they didn't
have the right tools around them to help them develop,
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and every quarterback has always seemed to not really flourish there,
and now he goes to Pittsburgh and you think maybe
I'll get an opportunity to compete for the start her job.
He wins the starting job. Droe the injury, played well
when Russell Wilson was hurt, and obviously he gets benched
from Russell Wilson comes back. So I'm thinking, Okay, Boom,
now this is your team. You have nobody worry about,
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nobody looking over shoulder. It's just your team with the
job for you to lose. And I thought he would
be the answer for the four seeding future. And so far,
how it's turned out. The things just haven't worked out
on they just have you haven't.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And at some point in time, we can't keep blaming
everybody else, So Joe, we can't. I was a little
concerned when he couldn't beat out Jake fromm for the
starting job at Georgia.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I was like, well, damn, yeah, damn like Jake brom
no hell raising you.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Know, I'm saying, Okay, Okay, Joe Burrow, Okay, Trevor Lawrence, Okay,
you don't beat I got no problem with that. Okay,
you can't beat out of Jones from a UH that
was at Alabama. Okay, I get that, Jake from what
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like I said, whatever it is, it's not I don't
I don't know, and you know, and I think they're
gonna stick with you now I know Tyron.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
It was the vast spot. Tyron had to come in
and you know you, they know you're gonna throw the ball.
You can't run it.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Breeze Hall tweeted something last week made it seem like,
you know, free Breeze or something like that. I don't
know what's going on there, but Justin Fields has got
to do a better job. He's got to see the
feel better. He's got a process it sooner and or
he can't play. You can't play quarterback if you don't
have if you if you can't process the informational and.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
You got you got the processes fast.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
You gotta be you gotta be able to recall. You
gotta be able to call it and spit it out
and when you see it's got to be it's gotta go.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, it is what it is to play that position.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Damn man, that that that sucks. That sucks. But on
the other on the other hand, on the other hand,
let's talk about let's talk about my Panthers.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yes, I'm saying Bryce Young one touchdown. He did leave
the game.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Andy Dalton came in four for seventy four of seven
for sixty yards. Both players were sacked. Bryce Young was
sacked once, Andy Dalton was sacked once. But Logett had
his game nine for ninety two fo one hundred yards.
And you remember, oh Joe, he caught the the one
that sealed it.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Hey, I told y'all, hey, chat chat, don't try to
jump on the bandwagon now.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I don't try to jump on the bandwagon now.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Your two teams Bears in the theme when the season started,
I told you there's gonna be two teams that y'all
need to watch.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
They're gonna be two teams that y'all need to watch.
I said it was a Chicago Bears. Because it got
Ben Johnson and Johnson and Kayle Williams. It's gonna be
a beautiful marriage.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
I think the Bear sit four and too, if I'm
not mistaken. Now the Carolina Panthers. Nobody believed in us,
but I believe in US. I talked to about Bryce Young, brother,
Haunter Winfro brother, Jimmy Horn exacuted Leggett going into his
second year eating raccoons and do whatever you do. One
of his best games of day nine for ninety two
and the TD a TD to seal the game. I'm
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telling you, j C. Horn Boy, I see you, I
see you, Hey, one.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Of the better corners in the league, especially when it
comes to Man and Man, I see you. M h huh.
Don't think I'm not gonna go change that, Madden, Braden,
I see you. I know brother brother Canell has got
to be smiling for me. Man.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Carolina's defense sacked the Jets quarterback six times for thirty
three yards and losses Carolina four and three. Hey, they're
in second place. They're tired for second place where I think,
but it might be in front of ALLLLA. Obviously Tampa's
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in first place. We'll see what happens with Tampa tomorrow.
As they played the game, but Carolina forty three, Jets
falled old and seven Chiefs bta the Raiders thirty one nothing.
Rashie Rice came back on the field and my home
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boys and Andy Reed didn't race any time getting.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Him to.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
The Chiefs looked, really, this is the best The Chiefs
looked in the wild, and my home boys started looking
He started to look like he.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Did three, two or three four years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Oh Joe mahomes twenty six and thirty five, two eighty six,
three touchdowns, clean game, but check o. Then he ran
the ball forty one times one fifty two. Travis Kelse
three catches fifty four yards. Rashi Rice seven catches forty
two yards. Much downs. Smiths had five for five for
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forty two. Tae Kwant Thornton had one for thirty nine,
Juju three for thirty five. They've You're worthy three for
thirty five, nor A Grade one for twenty eight. Hollywood
Brown two for fourteen, and to.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Touch everybody getting in on the party.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Gino, you're gonna lose your job, bro, you keep this up.
Ten for sixteen sixty seven yards. Holdo, oh Joe, I
want to read something to you. I'm gonna want you.
And this this was like the Jets were last week.
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The Raiders had three first downs. The Chiefs had thirty
first christ. They were all seven on third downs of
one on fourth downs. They had a great They ran
thirty total plays. The Chiefs had as many first downs
as the Raiders had plays. Chat you heard me correctly.
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The Chiefs had as many first downs thirty as the
Raiders had total plays thirty. The Chiefs had four hundred
and thirty four total yards. The Raiders had ninety five
total yards. The Chiefs possessed the football forty two minutes.
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In eight seconds, it's a sixty minute game. That means
the Raiders possessed the football less than eighteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
It is almost as if the Raiders is not an
NFL team.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
It's almost as if the Raiders don't belong on the
field with the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Well, they did in today.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
And then the best defensive player got hit in the
knee and he went out, Matt Crosby. The Chiefs looked
very Patrick Mahome look good. Uh you know, Patrick Mahome's
out there. Thornton no look passes. You see him and
juju on the Hey, god come, he dumping the juju
right now. They're gonna get first down. Uh, Hollywood Brown
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is hey? Cross the guy's face. I'm gonna hit your
the ends on you and get your key touchdown. But
they're looking good. And when they're looking like this and
the defense is playing like they're playing O Joe.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
It's it's so funny. When the Chiefs started oh and two,
everybody has something to say. Yeah, they look bad offensively,
they look bad on defense. This ain't working. This ain't work.
And not look four weeks later, Yeah, looking like the
Kansas City Chiefs of old. Everybody back here. They now
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they having fun.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
You hit the nail on the head. They got everybody
back healthy. I mean, think about it. You got Rashid
Rice back, who's your number one? Xavier word that who
stepped up in the absence and he you get Taekwan
Thornton who all of a sudden, he looks like, Okay,
now I see why the Patriots took him in the
second round.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, he can run, but he can play.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Now he's not gonna get the same opportunities that he
got before because Rashid Rice is back. But juju is
all reliable. You know, they're gonna throw up and they're
gonna hey, they're gonna put running smoke screen, jail ery screens,
They're gonna run. They can do a lot of different
things with juju U twenty four to the running he's
a running back and the receiver. He can do a
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lot of different things. Patrick Mahons is Patrick Mahomes. You know,
he's scrambling and make plays. But the thing is he's
not turning the ball over. When he takes care of
the football. The Chiefs are almost impossible for you to
beat him if they don't turn the football over. And
he's done a great job of that. He looked fourteen touchdowns,
two interceptions. He's starting to look like the Patrick Mahons
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that we used to see.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
In the game before that, the Lions beat the Bucks
twenty four to nine. Jamier Gibbs two hundred and eighteen
yards from scrimmage. He had seventeen carres of buck thirty six.
He had eighty two yards on three catches. Oh Joe,
he had that. They had that combo block. You see,
that was the guard to tackle the did a combo
block that who that dah out of the way, got
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up on that backer and when.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
He hit that hole, I said, I feel I feel.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I felt bad for Winfield Junior because they're like, bro,
that man got a hit running you bester, Hey, he
should have just started taking off, try to run it
and try to intercept.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Make it five. He took an angle. That angle ain't matter.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Listen, Jamiir Gibbs. Jamiir Gibbs is probably the closest thing
we had with Chris Johnson. He probably the closest thing
we had with Chris Johnson right now in the NFL
at the running back position.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
He doesn't get talked about enough. We talk about b
john Oh.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yea yea yea yeah, yeah, yah yah yeah. He got
that kind of speed. Yes, he got that kind of speed.
O joke. He looked fast.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
You showed, he showed us.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
But you kate let a guy with that kind of feet,
O Joe come to the line of scrimmag jumps.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Hey, once he gets past us, you don't make him
check his feet. Listen, sometimes even if you make him
check his feet, he still might get you.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
True, true.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
But but without checking his feet, you got at all
at all? Oh true. You got to think about it.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
He didn't get touched right through that clean and hey,
hold on, that's like it's like that we say about
Darrick Henry. You got to make him check his feet
because if you let him get a run and start
coming down the hill. Hell no, don't nobody want.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
To touch it.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Who I'm gonna make a business decision. I'm gonna hit
every every shoe lace he got.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I'm gonna let him get past me and jump on
his back. Hey, hell nod, you ain't even knock me out.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Hell nah.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Twenty four to nine, Detroit go to five and two,
Tampa falls to five and two. Jerry Golf with twenty
and twenty nine two forty one, one touch down one
in aception with sacked four times me. I don't think
either quarter paid particularly well. I thought Baker had the
worst of the two nights because he was hired a
lot of throws. He missed miss twice for touchdowns. He
had Abuka once and hit the dB in the back,
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and then he had another one that he wasn't able
to step into it. He undershot him on that one.
But I thought he was hot. He missed a lot
of throws. He had a lot of guys open though.
Joe he was high to night for some reason. I
don't know if the pressure got to him or what
the case was, but he was high on a lot
of throws tonight. They didn't run the ball particularly well twelve.
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They didn't have a whole lot of rush attempts. Twelve
carries for forty one yards. Baker threw it fifty times
because they fell behind. They were down fourteen to three,
and then Jered Golf had had that turnover. But uh,
Detroit defense is playing unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
They got to give Kevin, Kevin Shappard his flowers.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
They got to give Kevin a job.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
Not only not only did he call win hell of
a game right understanding the injuries that they have right now.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
The whole the whole back and is gone damn near. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Carry Joseph Brian Robinson, Armstead, I mean Arnold, excuse me, Arnold,
not Arnold.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Brian Brian Branch carrying out?
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Oh, Brian Branch. Uh uh no carry rock carry? What's carry?
Joseph her Karry Joseph he's Kirby. No, it's Kry Yeah, Kirby, Kirby,
Joseph Arnold. So they got three starters out of the secondary,
and those guys that came, oh, they played the ass
us balling, balling, they played their ass off. Hallott eight tackles.
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What do you call was being his disruptive self.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Hutchison. He didn't have a sack, but he called a
Hu's nice.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
Now that's nice.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah, we had a sack and a half bars had
a sack. Jack Capbell had a sack.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
The office didn't look like itself though today on it
ain't looking like yourself.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
No, obviously you're going to you're going against the Tampa
Bay defense that they ain't no slouch eating They ain't
no slouch eater. So I think that's why it almost
look I hate using the word human, but most of
the time we watch the Lions offense, they do things
that are different from everybody else.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
They take chances that other.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
Teams definitely wouldn't take. Going forth for fourth and fourth,
going forth for fourth and two.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
I mean, they put a lot of pressure on you
can't rely so Jo exactly exactly so, and see that's
the thing normal tonight.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
With the Lions.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
It's really four downs because a lot of teams you're like, okay,
we get the third a, let's get off the field
on third down. Nah, there's a great chance you're probably
gonna have to stay on the field if it's fourth
and fourth less depending on where. First of all, if
it's fourth and one, if they're in the midfield, well
if if if they're on the other side of it,
feel and if it's probably fourth and territory, yeah, They
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put a lot and they put a lot of damn
pressure on you, and and it's hard to stay focused
because they're so creative.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
They do a lot of things. Hey man, you started
to swing that ball to Jamior Gibbs and was out
there running. He was moving.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Uh yeah, I'm like, wait a minute, look at buddy.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Yeah, I'm glad Winfield dodged it because he running that
fans he'd hit somebody. He'd hurt somebody. Man arm and
Ross Saint Brown was arm in Ross Saint Brown. He
had six catches eighty six yards the touchdown, Gibbs with
three for eighty two. Uh. Gibbs again, seventeen carries above
thirty six two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Uh he I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Look, we talk about these backs, and there's some great backs,
but right now, Gibbs, b Sean Robinson, uh and Jonathan
Taylor they're they're they're they're they're the top three.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Absolutely, you know what.
Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
I hate the fact that we have to leave, Sayquon
off that list, but I think at some point, oh,
we got you. As the season goes on, I think
things open up. He just has to continue to be patient,
keep on chucking. You know though, those runs are going
to come. Because as as you start to have success
in the past, maybe just maybe defenses say, okay, you
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know what, we're not gonna make ja. We're not gonna
allow Jallinghurst to beat us. Since Saxon one hasn't had
any success so far this season, let's see if you
can still do what he did last season.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
The Seahawks take down the Texans twenty seven nineteen. JS
and Jackson Smith and Jigbuk and the Seahawks defense were
sensational and Texans offense at some at many points in
time to night that Joe looking up CJ. Stroud, Look,
you're gonna see he had decent numbers, but it was
late in the ball game and they need a meaningful
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third down conversion when they needed meaningful first fourth down conversion,
when they needed to get the ball into the end zone,
they came up, came up really short. Uh. Sam Donald
was awful tonight. They won the game, but he was awful.
Two terrible picks, got strip sacked in the end zone,
almost got locked for another safety. Let's start from let's start.
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Let's let's take it from go ahead and take it
to start from the Seattle Seattle won the game there
five and two. If I'm not mistaken, I think they're
tied with the forty nine ers for number one in
the division at five and two, followed by the Rams.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But yeah, Joe, that deep. Seattle's by the Mans.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
They're very disruptive.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Okay, so all the Rams, Niners, and Seahawks are all
five and two. Obviously the Cardinals are not five and two.
Jackson Smith and Jacky look, we can say.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
All I know is this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You can rank him where you want to, but I
don't believe he's gonna be there very much longer. He
is the best route. Hey, he can do it all
that release he got the release game. He quicker, the
cat on the on the marble table, got great hands man.
He's special. Little he's special. And they got a lot
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of guys that come out of Ohio state. They got
a Larve and they got Garrett Marlson, they got Michael,
they got a Marvin Harrison junior, and they got they
got Jamo.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
But that kid there, he's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
He's nice.
Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Every he's everything that is advertised everything. And yeah, I
mean listen, he's always been here. You understand now you
understand how good he is when the team was willing
to let DK Metcalf go and let Ty Locker go
because they understood what they had on their hands.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
They understood what they had on their hands. He's very good,
very very very very polished. Receiver.
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Cooper Cup through one pick out.
Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Sam Donald had one pick Cooper Cup through the pick
that over through the dbat over through the receiver and
uh and got it picked. But Sam Donald still was
awful even with the one pick and the strip sack
in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
And you know what, you know, honestly, Sam Donald could
have a game like this because it took for me
to get the week seven to have this type of game.
We're looked nasty and they needed the defense to satan
because the defense saved. It looked like the Houston Texas,
especially theirs the first had they didn't even belonging the
goddamn game. They couldn't get anything going offensively, They couldn't
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find any rhythm. See the Stroud was was flushed out
of the pocket. He was flushed up up in the pocket.
He had some drops as well. So I mean it
did it didn't help them. It was twenty four, it
was you know, that was that would Nico Collins.
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
I have one question.
Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
What happened with with Joe Mixon? He hurt they see
he didn't want an injury from still from last year
after Week four. If I'm not mistaken, nah, I think
that's one of the reasons why they ended up signing
the job because of that. But see, this is what's
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concerning because we saw this last year with Sam Donald.
Remember late in the season when they started playing, when
they got they had to play Detroit and they had
to play teams with defenses, and we see what happened
that concerted. Look, their defense is going to keep him
in every game. Their defense is going to keep them
in every game because they're that good. Now when they
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get Witherspoon back. But that D line, that front seven,
Ernie Jones, the four, the real deal.
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
How close? How close do you think they are? Well, no,
that's that's kind.
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Of I think the Rams are the best team in
that division me personally.
Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Isn't it because of their offense?
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
But if their defense good too? Now, don't sleep on
the defense.
Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Good, but the good Are they as good as the Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
But let me ask you a question, is the Seahawks
offense as good as the Rams expect, because remember that
they did what they did the Jacksonville with a pooka.
They can run it with Kyrin Williams. I think the
Rams running game is a little better than the Seahawks.
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, I think
their passing game. I definitely know the quarterback is better.
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Matthew Stafford is better than Sam Donald. Now you're gonna
go wide receiver, You say, pooh, couldn't Devonte Adams Higby?
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Are they as good as if set?
Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yes, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I'll I'll give them, I'll give them the nod. They
can rush the passing with those two guys on the edge,
They're good.
Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Good. You got to forget now we Seattle does have
a triple crown with it. I was just on that
Ram team not too long ago.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah yeah, O yo oh yo, he ain't the same
O Joe. You know that, you watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Wait wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Okay, even if he's not the same, there's certain players
they're there a hundred, they're one hundred percent, or them
being an eighty is sometimes better than other players that
are at one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Of course he's not.
Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Now when you're looking now, when you're looking at the rams.
So let me ask you a question. Is he better
than debotation? Not?
Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Okay? Is he better than Pooka?
Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
So what do we do?
Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
So?
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
If he's their number he's If he's their number two receiver,
Pookah's number one, he's number two. Now if you want
to say, Jack, JSN and Pooka right their neck and
neck because Pookah made the Pro Bowl, Pookah had a
hundred cat guy back to the back season, if I'm
not mistaken, So we know what Pooka is.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
JSN is special. He's really I mean, this is really.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
My first time just getting an opportunity to sit down
and just watch him. Ain't no other game though, because
oh Joe, you know, I'm trying to watch to Seattle
and I'm trying to watch this team, and I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
To watch that team.
Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
But I'm talking about he had my undivided attention, and
I'm watching his releases and I'm watching him get in
and out of breaks.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Oh he quick up the cattle on the hot well.
Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
You know, you know he was down here. He came
out here to why receive a workshop?
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
So I was I was Yeah, I was. I was
able to see it up close, and obviously he got
feed on, got some.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Good feet on him. He got some real good feet
on him. It's one thing. It's one thing you think
is you hear about players and you think, oh, he
come from Ohio State. So they just hype up those individuals.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
But he is everything he's advertised to be, especially when
you get to see it up close in person and
then you see it happen tonight obviously not just tonight,
but obviously the throughout the entirety of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
So it gives you a better understanding. Oh now I
get it. Now, I see what all the hype was for.
Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Now I see why it was so easy for them
to let DK Metcalf go, let tired of life and
go because they understand what they had on their hands.
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
They got something special. Oh he he the real He
a real deal, O Joe. He he is the he
is the real deal. And you know, hey, after next season,
they're gonna have to come seeing he gonna probably be
he gonna ay, he gonna look to get that high thirty.
He's gonna be in the high thirties, forty million. I
don't know how because here's the thing. That contract. By
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the time he get his contract, that contract to be
almost three years old. You can't keep saying well, no, no, no, no, no,
we keep dropping that. We keep driving that price up.
We were not finish, just a we're not just finished.
Get slotted. Oh chase the oh no, Chase was the best.
He got that money three years ago. Now it's time
for us to pull vault even if we got But man,
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that joke of that man. He is so quick, oh Joe,
damn in and out of the breaks, and he's.
Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
So he's more he's more quick than fast.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
He's not yet.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Oh yeah, he's so goddamn quick. And he's able to
manipulate dvs. But you ain't see that. You ain't see that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Uh that Uh how sad that release he think him
in said, then he got outside all.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
The talking about then the dena route on on Stingley.
Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah yeah. But but
but the thing is goo Joe perfect a perfect throw,
a beat, perfect coverage.
Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
You can't throw you can't play it anymore better than that,
because I got to honor I got to honor that
for the simple fact o Joe is that he could
possibly run the seven route on me. So I just
can't sell out to the post. Ain't nobody in the hole.
But if you look at when Sam Donald threw that
ball he had and he broke here, that ball was
out of Now the only thing I will say, uh
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Stingley gave up a seven route with a safety in
the hole.
Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Bro run to him.
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
If you run, if you run, if you run the post,
the safety should knock you out. I need to be
doing this to the ambulance to come get you.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
But you not finish. You not finish.
Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Run no seven route and cover and cover one on
me because guess what I ain't going for. I ain't
going for the post move because I got a safety
in the whole. I'm gonna run to your hip because
that's why I'm vulnerable. And guess what, get him every time?
Because you know what, manet, I'm fine undercut the seven routs.
I'm fine undercutting you see they get so caught up. Man,
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I'm a df O cho. They get that O joe.
You give him that head. Get this bro, you got
help there and you're weak over here. No need you
get him every time, No need to cheat it.
Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
But uh man, I don't know what's it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Look CJ's twenty three or forty nine two twenty nine
one touch one touchdown, one interception. He was sacked three times,
and he was pressured, relentlessly dodged the bullet, he got stripped, sacked,
he got fumbled the ball that should have been that
should have been. That was a fumble but ended up
turning into a should down. It could have should have
absolutely should have been a touch down. The offensive line,
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I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
I mean, you look at them and sometimes you got
two guys blocking one guy and another guy running. Scott
free bro pass that ish off and don't turn your body.
Just put a hand there so you can see it's coming.
Because what you do this is a rap to try
to turn back. That guy gonna be on your shoulders
so fast, man, you ain't got no fan
Ram beating Jags thirty five seven. Stafford threw five touchdown passes.
Travis Hunter gets his first one hundred yard career receiving game,
and he also had his first touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But YO, know what they doing.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what
happened today.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How many snaff did he play on defense? Two three?
I know he broke up a pass from Davonte.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Matthew Stafford twenty one of thirty three, two five touchdowns,
no sacks, no turnover. They ran the ball twenty nine
times for eighty nine yards, Davonte five for thirty excuse me,
five for thirty five and three tubs. Ferguson had one
for thirty one and a tub. Munthfield had one catch
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five yards and a tub. Trevor Lars was twenty three
or forty eight two thirty six, one touchdown, he was sacked.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Lambman had one and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is that Carneval lake Son from the Steelers. Yeah, he
said looten Chad, He's correct him. He said his booty,
so correct him. So y'all talked about, oh it's wrong,
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it's bout tat. I know that's how it looks like
it should be pronounced bout taste. But that's not what
he told the media. So go look up what he
told me. Google that, y'all google everything else. Y'all jump
on here to try to prove, Oh you're in our room.
Go look it up and then you can come back
and apologize to us later.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Listen, But it looks like it looks like it's French
to me, right, I took, I took, yeskri. I'm gonna
pronounce it as as if it's French. I'm gonna call
him bou check.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Y'all look at chat. Go look it up and all
of y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
If somebody's pronounced this pronounced that, then you can apologize
to OCHO now because y'all quit, y'all don't left one
of y'r old well you and OO was right. Y'all
will never do that. But y'all quick and joephare y'all wrong?
Y'all wrong, go go to and this is what he said. Now,
y'all will get mad at the man because that's what
he said. The pronunciation is don't ask him. But anyway,
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back to our NORMALUS schedule, pro Joe thirty five to seven.
It looks like. It looks like to me that the
their Super Bowl were the Chiefs on Monday Night, because
they looked like Stirfrid.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Says, what are they doing? Let's what are they doing
with trap? I'm curious because everything seems to be up
and down. One week he's playing more on defense and
he's playing less on offense. One week he playing on offense.
The next week is playing less on defense. It's like
they're kind of confused on what they want to do
with them. I need I need my boy, Brian Thomas Jr.
(03:08):
I know you're gonna see this. Maybe I need you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I need you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Got to come out with those you got to come out.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I need be b I need you every week, every
week to be exactly who we know you are. You
need to build off what you did last year and
come in this season and do the same thing When
things are going well. Trevor Lawrence has to be able
to count on you at all times. He needs to
be able to put on a blindfold and know I
can throw the seven and I know I can count.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
You need to be like birth control. You need to
be like birth control.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Every time he can count on your ninety nine point
nine percent of the time.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
At times, you're gonna make mistakes. Mistake's gonna happen, drops
it gonna happen. Minimize them, minimize them, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
But the player that you are, the player that I
know you're capable of being. You got to be that
twenty folk.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That no, no, no, no, don't be talking about oh uncle gretsive. No,
y'all jump y'all last in the chat, or you said
it wrong. You said it wrong. No, go look it
up now, y'all looking it up now you oh uncle
gressive y'all jump y'all lass on there, cause y'all so quick.
Oh don't know what he's talking about. I'm just telling
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what the guy how he how he told the reporter.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I said, I don't don't, I don't. I don't like
saying I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say it like a
French So.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But they y'all get mad.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, I want y'all to jump in there and say, uh,
you was right, y'all quick to blow up my Twitter,
blow up all my feeds on social media, Uh you
was wrong?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Why would't I right? Y'all don't have the same intensity.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Hey, they apologize. They said, were sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm just that's what he said on y'all.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Now if I some people say, okay, sometimes it's sharp,
it hasn't e sometimes it doesn't. So he said, is
it sharp or is it sharpie? It's sharp? Oh, I
thought it was sharpie ll I told you it was sharp.
So he said it's booty. But y'all get mad at
me because I thought cut this felt because when I
(05:18):
first started mate l U O Joe, I thought it Bouquet,
That's what I mean. But I knew, you know, with
a name like that, I'm like, that's a French. You know,
obviously the French. You know, we got New Orleans French,
you know. But anyway, Uh, what's going on with Jackson Villochoe?
(05:39):
First of all, ask how many snapped did a trail
play on defense?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Because he didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
He didn't, he didn't register anything. He had a pass
defense though he had a past a PD. Yeah, if
you're not gonna play in both ways and he's not
gonna be beneficial on both weeks, why did you trade
up to get him? Hey, listen, why'd you give up?
(06:06):
You gave up next year's number one. Your guess is
to move up like two or three spots. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Listen, if you take someone that high, if you take
someone high, he gonna be full time somewhere. And if
you if you're gonna play him on both sides like
you promise, like you promised him, I'm gonna use him
to where we picked him as a number two pick.
I'm going to feature him somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Offensive. You're gonna you're gonna be on offense full time.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
We're gonna have certain packages, probably on third down, we're
gonna put you in there. You're gonna go against the
third receiver sometime, the second whoever the hell going to
goddamn flood, that's who you have to face.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I'm not sure what they're doing. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I'm confused. He played fourteenth on defense. He played sixty
plus snaps on offense. Yeah, so that's seventy four snaps.
They had fifty five snaps total on defense. I just
don't see him playing one hundred for one hundred and
thirty snaps and being effective. I don't not in an
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NFL game. I mean, listening it out and see all
the dv's I see Chris Harris Junior. I see a
Kiev the Leeb, I see Sharon. I see guys that
made Pro Bowls, all decade players. I see those guys
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and they're talking about Man, it's hard to go back
because you need to get in the rhythm defensively, the
backpedal to switch the transition. Oh Joe, it's not like
you're playing one good receiver one week and then you.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Might play some guys that's not very good.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Every guy that you go against on Sunday in the NFL,
A lot of guys that you win against on Saturday,
they're not in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You're going against Jefferson, You're gonna gets Chase, You're gonna
get CD, You're gonna gainst Pickens.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You're going against rasid Rice. You going up against Davonte.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You're going against a j You're going against Pittman, You're
going against Johnson, You're going against Keenan Allen. And then
guess what, not gonna beat pastor Tan, Not gona beat
Orang Jr. Not go beat Steingley, Not go beat Quittin Mitchell.
Do you understand what you're you're asking yourself and you
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understand how just how mentally you have to be locked in.
Oh Joe, you know, first of all, you gotta be
locked in. But when you going against one of them dogs,
you better be on your business or they're embarrass you
and they're trying.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
To and and most of the time every week, it's
gonna be a dog on every team, every team.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Very soften when.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
When you play a game, regardless of what position you play,
whether it's receiver, you're gonna be facing the dog, whether
he had if you, if you, if you're playing receiver,
you're gonna be facing the dog at dB no matter
what side of the ball you go to. So you
got you got to be on point. But they're not
using them to be effective. Let alone, not help him,
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but help the team. Gotta help him, you got it.
He's just he's the second pick in the draft. You
would think his usage would show just that, and it hasn't.
It hasn't the date, not yet. And I understand.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
How I mean, I don't know if this year they're
gonna fully integrate him and let him play every snap,
every down.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Mm hmm, yeah, I understand. I understand bringing the player
along slow. But here we we we were going in
the week seven. Well we're going in the week eight.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Shoot. We had we halfway through the season. Listen, brother
leon Colm, you know he know he no better than me.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He got a great offensive mind because he was on
the staff, you know. Offensive that's where that's where his
butter is breaded. That's where his bread is buttered. Got
me talking like, oh Joe, that had a bit around
you too, low man, I ided help, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
The Bears moved to forward two Saints dropped at one
and six. The Bears twenty six Saints fourteen. Caleb Williams
fifteen to twenty six, one hundred and seventy two yards,
no touchdowns, won an exception. Oh but DeAndre Swift nineteen
carries above twenty four forty rushes two hundred and twenty
two yards. Spencer Ratler twenty of thirty two two thirty three,
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two touchdowns, three picks.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Can't turn the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Over like that, bro, And when your team is not
equipped to overcome your mistakes Russia's seventeen carries forty four
yards for the Saints offense.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Spencer Ratler also lost a fumble, so that was four turnovers.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Gotta beat you to overcome That'll get you. Chrystal Lobby
had one of his better games. Five catches, ninety eight
yards of touchdowns, Johnson for five for seventy nine.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Damn heat, I needed one more catch. What did you
like about what you did? You see see any of this?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
S DeAndre Swift is running the held up.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The ball again.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
With DeAndre Shift running like that that, it brings balance,
It brings balance, boom. We can rely we can rely
on Deandres Shift the do what we need to do.
Office lea on the ground so it makes throwing the
ball that much easier. I know Kate Williams did have
an interception, but outside of that, he played somewhat of
a clean game outside of the interception, and they did
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what they needed to do do in the game.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
They're four and two. I'm not sure when the last
time the Bears have been foreign to and look this
good offensively. Hell, they playing the goddamn rainstorm last week,
won the game. They come back this week.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I know they're playing the Saints. A lot of people say, oh,
that don't care, You're playing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Not that good. I told y'all, I told.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You two teams that maturation process between Kayler Williams and
god damn Ben Johnson. He's going to be able to
maximize his potential understanding what his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Strengths are with his creativity, all right, and just starting.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, and Ratler had three interceptions. I see Edmunds had one,
he's a linebacker. And Montell Sweat he had one. He's
a d n No hold on sacks. Who got the picks?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They don't show pick Oh yeah they do.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh, Bayard had one, Edmunds had one, and Nick right
end right, I don't know if it's that's his first name,
he had one.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They just oh yo. The Saints are not good enough
to overcome turnovers.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
There are not very many teams equipped in the NFL
that could overcome four turn let alone the Saints.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, but you got maybe two or three teams.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's it. Maybe it all depends on when they turn
the ball over. Where they turn.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They can score on a high volume. They can score
on the high volume.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Of imagin your question who they playing?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And they turned the ball, Now that matters too. Now
that that matters as well.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
You turned the ball over against the Cowboys. You turn
the ball over against uh the chiefs man.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You might pack you might well pack your bags.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Early, turn the ball over four time against the packing
bags early.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Exactly. The Patriots beat the Titans in the Revenge Bowl.
Drake May threw for two hundred and twenty two yards
two touchdowns. Rayle's first game against the franchise that fired
him back in January of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
They did a number. They did a number on them.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Today, cam Ward fumble for the second consecutive game. He
has five fumbles this season, and he threw a pick.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well A.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I love brother cam Ward, but the same issues that
we had in the same conversation we had with Will
Levis and turning the ball over and not giving his
team a chance, cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Is actually cam Ward is worse. If you go look
at the number through the same starts, he's worse than
Will Levis.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, you got to give you a team a chance.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And Ojoe, you and I talked about it. Brow Bro.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You can't keep turning them all over. You can't give
keep giving up these pick sixes. You can't keep putting
the ball in harm's way. Because I don't care how
good your defense is. They can't consistently overcome bad play from.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now you can, can you don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
This is why I advise guys stop talking.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We tell we he said, you know, y'all know what
he said. We butt he.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Hey, hey, but listen with I like like like two uh.
You say stuff like that, your play has to be
up to park.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
You can't be part of the problem. You got to
be part of the solution.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Through six games, the first six games of their career,
cam Ward has thrown for eleven hundred and one yards.
Will Levis had twelve sixty six. Cam Ward has thrown
three touchdowns, will Levis had seven. Cam Warred had thrown
four interceptions, will Levis two fumbles lost, cam Ward four,
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will Levis two sacks, cam Ward twenty five, will Levis nineteen.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
He got sacked twenty five times already.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Oh, heading in to that. It's more Now how many
times you got? Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now, he's gotten sacked thirty times. He got sacked five
times today, Jesus Christ. So we can add a touchdown
to him. He got four touchdowns, five interceptions and he
got now he got.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Another fumble loss.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Well, listen, whoever got the Titans on these schedule. That's
like a homecoming games. That's the game that's the game
you want to play with. You know you're gonna get
your win. Hey, the Titans in the Jets. If you
got the Titans of the Jets on your schedule, now
what chalk that up as a win?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yep? Hey, hey, don't worry about ward. He would us.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Hey, listen, you're gonna have You're gonna have game.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Nah No, nothing y'all did. Won't Mike Brabel.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It wasn't Mike.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
They fired Mike Brabel.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
This is rookie year, this is rookie year. Do we
do do we give him some grace because he's a rookie?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, okay, but stop talking.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Stop talking, because you make yourself look bad when you
go out there and playing like that.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
If you do that, they made the Patriots. Well.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Drake me, hey, drake me nice bro Yeah may n
o Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Twenty one of thirty three. Twenty one of twenty three.
It's the highest completion percentage in Patriots history.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Twenty one.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I think he completed sixteen straight two hundred and twenty
two yards, two touchdowns. He did get sacked four times,
but he turned the ball over Stefan Diggs seven for
sixty nine. Keishaw is it bout tee a booty?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm not sure how to pronounce it the right way.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But he had two for fifty five. He had a
great fingertail catching the end zone. Oh Joe Hunter Henry
four for thirty three, Austin Hooper two for eleven, A tub.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And Chase on.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Recovering fumble in the end zone, the one that Cam
wore tried to throw it slipped out the back of
his hand.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's booty booty, see y'all laughing.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That was like it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It looked like it should be bouta but it's boucher booty.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, boute he must he must be from New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Uh he is, he is roma Jack Stevens. They ran
the ball thirty six times one seventy five. You know
favorite wants to run the football. You know he had
that monster in Tennessee. Dad Henry, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You know you want to run that.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You know what I like to I like the I
like the fact that they went back to Stevenson despite
his struggles holding on to the ball.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, you want to play something, yes, yeah, coach, I
do hold on to the damn ball. You hold on
to the ball. You get on the field, you put
the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
On the turf.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You over here with me, choice is yours. The Browns
beat the dogs. Mike McDaniel bitch Tour late for quinn ewards.
He was twelve or twenty three one hundred yards, zero touchdowns,
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three interceptions, twenty four. He had a twenty four passer rating.
Tour has the most two interception games in the NFL
since twenty twenty two. Okay, this is what This is
why I tell you quarterbacks keep your mouth shut. Now
we're gonna have a conversation about your guy in Tennessee.
Now you remember your guy in tenni Say we that's
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why you keep your mouth shut?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes U. Now back to tour. Oh yo, Hello, hold on,
hold on, I would let you.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I would hear what you said that your team, the
Miami Guppies or your let's go ahead, listen to it.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
When you when you, when you stand tall with your
head high, and you hold other people accountable and tell
us about things that are going on in your house,
a house where we don't.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Have the key to, so it's no way for us
to know what's going And that cel your chest.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
As that captain, you have to always be front of
the center and being the one be playing at your best.
You got to be playing at your very best at
all times. So what you're saying in front of the
media and your play it ain't matching up. It ain't
matching up. You can't be talking here but playing down
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here at the bottom. There has to be some some
some type of even keel where everything makes sense. Okay,
you know what, he can get in front of the
media and say some of the things that are going
on behind closed door, because once he touched that goddamn field.
He's that boy. He's doing his thing. But when you
play like that and on the opposite end trying to
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do that, it ain't It wasn't pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I was upset.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I was upset watching I was upset watching the game.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
We don't even have a chance, So we don't have
a chance to compete, let alone you're already going against
one of the better defenses in the league.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So officially, you.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Got to do that much better. You have to raise
your level of play. Tyriek is gone. He's not walking
back through that dough. He's not walking back through that dough.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And it wasn't like Cleveland did a whole lot. It
was just that you were so pathetic.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Your clee Miami offense was so anemic they didn't really
have to do anything because you gave him short feels.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You gave up a pick six. This is what you do.
Call Bill. David used to always tell us.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
My college coach say, Son, you praise in public, you
chat dins behind closed back.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Who whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa See
I forget hey, listen, I got I got it with
you today.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I'm prepared.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, he said, you chest, you chest, you chat dins
behind closed doors, you praised in public. Ocho. We played
the game. We played Alabama and m and uh. Coach
called uh. He called a quarterback draw on the first
the first two plays he called a handoff, quarterback checked
out of it, and then on fourth down he called
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a draw it again.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
We lined up. We lose the game.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
We're all around the team. Coach says, I've been coaching
twenty years and I've never said this before. You lost
me to get damn.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Just like that, he said, he got there, he got
there in front of the media.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know, we just got to play better. Look the
plays that we didn't make tonight in the quarterback position.
I trust him, I believe in him. That is not
what he said behind closed doors. That's not what he said.
But in public he knew he had to put on
a brave face. He had to put on a brave front.
(23:27):
I'm not saying to what you said. You should have
said behind closed doors to your teammates and keep the
media out of it. See, you can't spend it because
see when you say, when the media does this, you
absolve yourself of accountability. You see, instead of saying you, look, look,
I misspoke. Everything that I said. I could have said
to an individual or individuals that I felt that were
(23:50):
late or not being the best representative of the Miami Dolphins.
That should have never heard that. The media ears should
have never heard what I had to say. But when
he spent it and say the media try to spend it,
now he's absolving himself of accountability. I thought you were
saying that you were sorry because you was taking the
owners of accountability. But that's not what he did. And
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think about Ojo, he said that after throwing three pigs.
He follows that up again. Yeah, and so how do
I look at you? How do I look at you
if I'm a player, Ojo. You got to see on
your jersey. You're supposed to be one of our best players.
And a large part of why we're in effect about
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visibly is because of your play.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I told you Chat.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I'm not sure, Chad, if any of you have been
in the structured environment and played a sport and you
look up to one individual, the individual who wears.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The sea on the chest, not only does he wear
the sea on the chest, but he's a leader.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He not only is a leader, he's supposed to be.
He's your quarterback. He's your quarterback. So you say some
of the things that are going in house about players
that are in a building, how do you think they
look at your neck?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
How do you think they look at you?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
On you?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And you know, you know how they gonna look at you.
They won't say it out loud publicly, but you know different, Yes,
they always look at you sideways. Now from now on,
even with a public apology and the top it off,
the top it off, it makes it even worse when
you come back the following week and you play like.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
That and you stunk it up again, you pull your
pants down two weeks in a row in front of
the public and took a dump on the field. Now,
first of all, oh Joe, I'm looking at you sideways,
because even before you open your mouth, I knew you
weren't playing well, and I kept that to myself. Now,
I could have put you on blasts or so when
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somebody say a tour with buns or cheeks, I could
have liked it. But I didn't do none of them. No, no, no,
But what did you do? You come, put us on
blasts and you stuck. You got to the meeting on time,
You was did everything right and you like stirf ride there?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So what was your excuse?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He Sometimes you can do all the talking in the world.
You can do all the talk in the world. All
the talking in the world don't matter.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But what does matter?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I know you want to do everything right before you go,
before before you touch this feel on Sundays. But all
that talking and all that means don't mean nothing. If
you go out there and you stick it up Sunday
at one o'clock, you still got to play. You still
got to exq as the exit nos. And the person
that has the ball the most, the person that is
able to handle the ball the most is responsible most
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of the time, whether you win or whether you lose.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yes to a now has two or more interception games
and most he has the most to intercept two plus
interception games in the NFL Since twenty twenty two, He's.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Done that twelve times.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's hard to over It's hard to overcome bad quarterback
play because you know why a Joe, You know why
chat because he has the ball all the damn time
unless you direct snap it to a running back or
a wide receiver, which is the wildcat.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
He touches the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
If he's playing bad, he gets hit, the ball comes out,
he throws it, it gets picked, he runs. I always
questioned Mojo, the man know he has a history of concussions.
He breaks away last year.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
What does he do? Ojo? He lowers his head on somebody.
I said, you got to be kidding me, Ojo.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
The Eagles beat the Vikings the thirtieth ranks passing offense
coming into the game found this stride. Jalen Hurt through
three touchdown passes. Devonte Smith had a career high one
hundred and eighty three receiving yards and a touchdown. AJ
Brown went over one hundred yards and had a pair
of touchdown and Jalen Hurts three hundred and four yards.
The receivers were the second most of his career. I
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think it's his first three hundred yard game in the
last two games. So Jalen Hurts, he was nineteen of
twenty three, very efficient three twenty six three touchdowns. Uh
Davante nine for a buck eighty three and a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
A J.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Brown four for one, twenty one two touchdowns. This is
what you have to do when you can run the football.
Twenty three rush attempts forty five yards. Sa Quon eighteen
carries forty four yards. Got no choice.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Hey, it's so funny too, is Devontae Smith was going crazy.
He was going crazy and I could see the mannerisms.
I could see the body language from AJ Brown. He
wasn't going off yet. He hadn't got those t hadn't
got those touchdowns yet.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, you know, he caught the first touchdown.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
The scramble.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
They called him on, called him on the round. I
looked like I think it was a linebacker called him
on to He told him to go.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He took well, you know, scramble. It was a scrambler,
driller was nowt It.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Was a scrambling from But outside of that, he got
he got him in the game, he got involved in
the game, came back and hit him, came back and
hit him on a deep one.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And before you go any further, that was not a past.
That was not a rough in the passer.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh Martin, the Washington Commanders guy when he sacked dak
pres squad, It's not my fault.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
He didn't buckle his damn hellman, and I tackled his
ass and his helmet from his head. That is not now.
It looked there was.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It seemed like it was an incidental contact with the receiver.
So it was a five yard penoty. That's not rough
in the passer. That is not rough in the passer.
It's not my fault. Oh Joe, if you don't buckle
your damn helmet, I tackle you your helmet off. I
didn't rough you up. He's he didn't horse collarge. He
had him by the middle of his jersey and he
snatched his ass down, obviously. So that's all I want
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to say about that. Go ahead about the refs.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
You know, the refs when everything is going full speed,
they can't tell They can't see that. All they see
is the hand up high and the helmet coming off.
And you know they throwing that flag right away. They
throwing a flag right away outside ya yoe.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
They can reveal it.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That I mean because think about it when Jared Golf
when they called that touchdown back, they didn't throw the
flag on the field that came from the cologos.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Are you right right? You're right?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
But hey, I like what jensen Hurst did. I like
what he did because obviously listen, you quieted out. It's
again you couldn't run the ball. They say he can't throw,
he can't put it in the air, And what did
he go out there and do he put it in
the air. You're not gonna allow us to run the
ball like the Chiefs did in Super Bowl. Okay, hold
my beer, let me show you I can do everything.
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I can throw him too. Now what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Carson Wentz was twenty six and forty two three thirteen,
two interceptions. Jordan Adison had nine for a buck twenty eight.
George Justin Jefferson had five for seventy nine. He did
drop a touchdown, you know what you call him? Was
able to get his hand in there.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Uh Cooper, Cooper did a good job.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah. But here's the thing though, he's finding out it's
different on the island than it is.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Absolutely, especially when you're going against the one of the best,
if not the best, depending on who you ask, it's
a different.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I don't know, Joe, what do you think about that touchdown?
They and the field they called it a touchdown the
diving t J Hawkinson, But they reviewed it and they
said no, what.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Was the touchdown on?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I think because the ball didn't move when he frowned,
he didn't move, and all he did was bring it
back in.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
He brought it back in on on on the urn.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know it's they're saying. They're saying the ground helped
him secure it.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Come on, the ball didn't move when he hit the ground,
didn't all and all he did was he brought it
back into his chest as he rolled over to me,
that's a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
They're so inconsistent with that call. I don't know what
the touchdown or catch is and he got damn mode.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I don't know. I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I agree with you one of the percent because, like
I said, what I thought was a catch you know
sometimes they they they let it like his hands under
like bro he caught that, he caught it. But give
the Eagles credit today because Jalen hurts one of this
game with his arm nineteen or twenty three three, twenty six,
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three touchdowns. He was sacked three times, but he says,
you know what, I'm not gonna put the ball in
Harm's way, and he doesn't. But this is what it's
gonna take for them to get back to where they
want to be. This has to be this has this.
This has to be a regular This has to be
a normal occurrence. This can't be an outliwer. This can't
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be an anomaly. They're not going to let Saque win
the game. But that doesn't mean that doesn't mean you
don't attempt to hold you. I'm not gonna just have
him throw the ball, because think about O Joe. He
threw the ball twenty three times. He didn't throw it
thirty three, forty three. I still gotta make you respect.
Sake one and if I get one on one coverage,
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AJ DeVante.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Being ready, Yeah, I saw him do that today too.
I like that, and the replay was able to see it.
He saw one he saw one on one with AJ
Brown and real slowly. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Right there.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It was with that skinny post. He saw many skinny post.
He hit him on that skinny post for that touchdown.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Boom. I like that.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
That's going off script. That's going off script. No matter
what play is called, AJ Brown, keep your eyes on me.
If I see something, I'm gonna throw your number and
let you know what they do. Mhm h.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
The camera called Aj after scoring the second touchdown today,
this when you throw me.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
The F and ball? What the F is that? Just
throw me the EFN ball.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
After the game, Davante Smith said the play that result
of the seventy nine yard touchdown was there for them
all game. He said, here and his teammate said, advocated
for the halftime. After they scored, Jordan mile A Lotta
went to him and said, you call your shot.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
They do.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But O Joe, you you and I played a depending position.
John used to tell me now, I'm look, I'm gonna
take your word for it.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
You was open. I'm gonna look now if I go
back and look at film and your hands wasn't open.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Hey, that's why you gotta be careful.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
You gotta be careful as a receiver saying you open
and really not knowing what's around you.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You got to be sure and you got to be definite.
It's what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Because if I come we come back to that play
and and you were open in the first court, and
we come back and run it maybe through, maybe in
a different formation, and and hoping we get the same
look defensively, boy, you don't don't lie at.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Me, hey, because I did that while I was in
the game. I said, man, John Rod was open. He's like,
He's like, tee, you weren't open. I said, I was open,
you know, I like he said, I tell you what
I'm gonna look at tomorrow. If you're not open, it's
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gonna be hard pressed for you to get you the passes.
By two series later, I came to him, I said,
ay t, you know that play he was talking about
we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I wasn't open. Since you put it like that, you
ain't gonna give me no passes. I wasn't open.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
But that's the thing. If you tell the quarterback, because
they're gonna trust you, I'm open. Okay, you said this, hey,
Coach Davonte said he's open. Oh cho, Citi's open. Okay,
you better be open. But I thought I thought Jayleen
Hurts played unbelievable football today. I thought he was decisive
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with his throws. We got outside the pocket, he was
accurate with his throws. AJ four for two touchdowns, Hey
Davonte nine for a buck eighty a buck eighty three
and a touchdown long as seventy one, a long as
seventy nine on eleven targets. But think about it, twenty
three over three hundred yards on twenty three attempts.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's not a lot of.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Attempt That's how efficient he is. That's called throwing the
ball with efficiency, with efficiency, making all the right throws,
and then when things break down in the pocket, I'm
not you know, I'm not gonna take off and run
with the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
He's looking, he's looking for guys to break. He looking,
he's looking to run the scram.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
With drawing people out, coin direction, which way to go
and coming back. A. J.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Brown had a good one when we had when the
when the play broke down to the right, hit AJ
Brown on it was third and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Oh many was out there dealing.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
And this is a good thing because now things change
most of the time, the way they play and the
one they want.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The way they won last year is sakwon.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Barkley had historic season running the ball and most of
the time for the Eagles, they would run the ball
to open up the pass. Well, hell, they not allowing
the Eagles and Saquan to run the ball the way
they did last No, maybe now what's gonna happen. Maybe
things are gonna They're going to win playing in reverse.
We're gonna have to throw the ball to open up
the God didn.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Run absolutely right, because they still aad. Okay, because I'm
telling you what defense coordinator said that he did that
last week. Let's see if he could do it again.
Because I saw Saqui do that, do what he did
last year for the nay of the season. Saquan has
a history. I'm gonna make him do it again.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Oh Jo.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
The Packers went on the road and they win in Arizona,
but it wasn't easy by the score of twenty seven
to twenty three. Do you see how they looked at
the first three three and a half quarters o Joe
Jordan Love was nineteen to twenty nine one seventy nine,
one touchdown. Josh Jacob thirteen carries, fifty five yards, two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
They win it. This is why you go get a
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
If I'm gonna make you the highest paid defensive player
in NFL history, the highest non quarterback, you know what
you got to do when you that guy, when you
are Miles Garrett, when you are a Michael Parsons, when
you are a T. J.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I need you to turn the lights side of the building.
I don't the first quarter, I don't care. Now I
need to keep them I need I need you to
keep them out of the end zone. Did you see
the relentlessness? You see how quick he beat that right.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Tack listen't worry about and he won't worry about no
holding him.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You don't worry about no what No, don't worry about
who holding. Don't worry about who No.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I pay you for As a matter of fact, I
pay you forty seven million. Run through the whole. That's
why he's that good. Michael is that good. That first step,
his ability, he could turn speed, the power, he can bend,
he can wax all, he can rip, he can play
over the guard, he can play I mean he can
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move up and down the line. He's too good of
a player. This is why you go pay Michael Parson.
This is why you give up quick Kenny Clark in
two first rounders for what you saw today. This is
what he should be because you got Rashan Gary on
the other side, you got Wyat. There's no reason that
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he really didn't do he Sometimes I wonder if Michael
really understands me.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I don't think he does. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
And then, you know what, that's a good thing. It's
a good thing that he doesn't understand how good he is.
And he's just out there just playing football. He's just
out there just playing football with no inclination and how
good you really are. Oh, he had no sacks. He
had one sack. Excuse me, he had one sack coming
too the game. If I'm not mistaken, he had three
today and you already know how the game goes.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Me become in bunch of Remember I told you that
they're like Graves and bonetas they come in bunchy.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Three today now probably watching next week, you have another
three and then you look up. Before you get to
halfway through the season, you're damn it close to ten.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Out of the blue.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Out of nowhere, because the thing is you got Rashon
Gary on the other side, he could rush the pass,
and you got Wirtt push in the middle. Bro y'all, Hey,
meet me at the quarterback ready, Brett. Oh yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Meet me at the quarterback. Hey, we're
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playing sorry dv's Hey, Rod Ed, meet Minni's on.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
What we doing?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
What we do today? We my hug salute? Meet Minnian's on.
I was like, damn Packers.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But Jakobe recent played well twenty five and thirty six,
two seventy.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Nine, two touchdowns. Mark, Yeah he did. He didn't hurt him.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Trey McBride had ten catches seventy four yards, two touchdowns.
Mark Margaret hasn't had two catches fifty six yards thirty
five long. But in the end that that pass rush
was just too much. They were just relentless. Uh, what's wrong,
let's talk about it. Look at that Kwaid Walker a
sack of a half. Uh, Michah had three sacks. Sean
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Gary had a sack. They sacked the quarterback six times. Well,
that that's that's how it should be. You got two beds,
two good young pass rushers, in Micah and Rashan Garrett.
You got Walker who could rush the pass. You got
Wyat who can put pressure on the court of quarterback.
There ain't no quarterback should have time to stand back there.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
And pat that ball like the funny.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
The good thing about it is you want You didn't
have to deal with Kyler Murray, Who's who's a two
three quarterback. You're dealing with your Kobe Brissett, who's the statue.
He ain't going nowhere, he ain't going nowhere, he ain't
going nowhere. And you get the ball and get the
ball out your hands fast as possible. But when it
when it mattered, most the sacks came in, and especially
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specific Micat towards the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
But see that's what I need. I need you to
turn the lights out of the building. Somebody got to
cut the lights off. What good, O, Joe?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
What good is we?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Oh, we got a guy that got twenty sacks, But
then we allow them to go right down the field
and get a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
What good and the twenty sacks doing?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Me?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I don't care. And this is how I look at
offense and defense. And you can chat, you can call
me crazy, can you get done what you need to
get done when you absolutely have to. Oh, Joe, what
good is having a number one ranked offense and I
can't get a first down so the opposing team don't
get the ball back?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
What good is having the number one defense?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
If I can't get off the field on third down,
I can't keep them from getting in field goal rank?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But what did that do? I need it to matter.
I got money, but I can't get none out of ATM. Well,
no good. The Panthers beat the Jets thirteen to six.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Rico Daldell rico'dado still appeared to be more dominant back.
He had seventy nine ars yards rushing on seventeen carries
compared to Hubbard's thirty one yards on fourteen carries.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
We missed that that way. He was one of our
UH prize picks.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I told you, I told you you listened to him.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
But see I thought, But see I was, I was
thinking it was coming back here.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I totally don't worry about that man. Doubt Dado got
God damn he got the hot hand.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Always bet with hand.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, ninety six yards he was supposed to get seventy
nine ninety six.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
You got to listen to me sometimes, I.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Know, but I got Taekwan. Though Taekwan got he had
to get seven yards. He come one deep one Hey, uh,
Justin Fields was bit at halftime. I'm in favor of
long time backup tyd Rod Taylor. J just signed Fields
to a two year, forty million dollar deal, including thirty
thirty million guaranteed. They only needed six and a half
games to realize it's.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Not looking good.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Don't look like he'd had Listen, he had he was
six or twelve, forty six yards.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
My thing is, look, it doesn't seem like.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
He processes it as fast as you should.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
And if a quarterback, oh Joe, it's gotta be yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Yeah, it kind of It kind of makes me sad
a little bit because I understand what Justin Fields has
had to go through so far. Early in his career,
he had to deal with the issues over in Chicago
where they felt he was the answer. And we've always
had the conversations about quarterbacks that have gone through Chicago
and weren't developed the right way, didn't have they didn't
have the right tools around them to help them develop,
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and every quarterback has always seemed to not really flourish there,
and now he goes to Pittsburgh and you think maybe
I'll get an opportunity to compete for the start her job.
He wins the starting job. Droe the injury, played well
when Russell Wilson was hurt, and obviously he gets benched
from Russell Wilson comes back. So I'm thinking, Okay, Boom,
now this is your team. You have nobody worry about,
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nobody looking over shoulder. It's just your team with the
job for you to lose. And I thought he would
be the answer for the four seeding future. And so far,
how it's turned out. The things just haven't worked out
on they just have you haven't.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And at some point in time, we can't keep blaming
everybody else, So Joe, we can't. I was a little
concerned when he couldn't beat out Jake fromm for the
starting job at Georgia.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I was like, well, damn, yeah, damn like Jake brom
no hell raising you.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Know, I'm saying, Okay, Okay, Joe Burrow, Okay, Trevor Lawrence, Okay,
you don't beat I got no problem with that. Okay,
you can't beat out of Jones from a UH that
was at Alabama. Okay, I get that, Jake from what
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like I said, whatever it is, it's not I don't
I don't know, and you know, and I think they're
gonna stick with you now I know Tyron.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
It was the vast spot. Tyron had to come in
and you know you, they know you're gonna throw the ball.
You can't run it.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Breeze Hall tweeted something last week made it seem like,
you know, free Breeze or something like that. I don't
know what's going on there, but Justin Fields has got
to do a better job. He's got to see the
feel better. He's got a process it sooner and or
he can't play. You can't play quarterback if you don't
have if you if you can't process the informational and.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
You got you got the processes fast.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
You gotta be you gotta be able to recall. You
gotta be able to call it and spit it out
and when you see it's got to be it's gotta go.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, it is what it is to play that position.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Damn man, that that that sucks. That sucks. But on
the other on the other hand, on the other hand,
let's talk about let's talk about my Panthers.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yes, I'm saying Bryce Young one touchdown. He did leave
the game.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Andy Dalton came in four for seventy four of seven
for sixty yards. Both players were sacked. Bryce Young was
sacked once, Andy Dalton was sacked once. But Logett had
his game nine for ninety two fo one hundred yards.
And you remember, oh Joe, he caught the the one
that sealed it.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Hey, I told y'all, hey, chat chat, don't try to
jump on the bandwagon now.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I don't try to jump on the bandwagon now.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Your two teams Bears in the theme when the season started,
I told you there's gonna be two teams that y'all
need to watch.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
They're gonna be two teams that y'all need to watch.
I said it was a Chicago Bears. Because it got
Ben Johnson and Johnson and Kayle Williams. It's gonna be
a beautiful marriage.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
I think the Bear sit four and too, if I'm
not mistaken. Now the Carolina Panthers. Nobody believed in us,
but I believe in US. I talked to about Bryce Young, brother,
Haunter Winfro brother, Jimmy Horn exacuted Leggett going into his
second year eating raccoons and do whatever you do. One
of his best games of day nine for ninety two
and the TD a TD to seal the game. I'm
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telling you, j C. Horn Boy, I see you, I
see you, Hey, one.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Of the better corners in the league, especially when it
comes to Man and Man, I see you. M h huh.
Don't think I'm not gonna go change that, Madden, Braden,
I see you. I know brother brother Canell has got
to be smiling for me. Man.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Carolina's defense sacked the Jets quarterback six times for thirty
three yards and losses Carolina four and three. Hey, they're
in second place. They're tired for second place where I think,
but it might be in front of ALLLLA. Obviously Tampa's
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in first place. We'll see what happens with Tampa tomorrow.
As they played the game, but Carolina forty three, Jets
falled old and seven Chiefs bta the Raiders thirty one nothing.
Rashie Rice came back on the field and my home
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boys and Andy Reed didn't race any time getting.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Him to.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
The Chiefs looked, really, this is the best The Chiefs
looked in the wild, and my home boys started looking
He started to look like he.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Did three, two or three four years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Oh Joe mahomes twenty six and thirty five, two eighty six,
three touchdowns, clean game, but check o. Then he ran
the ball forty one times one fifty two. Travis Kelse
three catches fifty four yards. Rashi Rice seven catches forty
two yards. Much downs. Smiths had five for five for
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forty two. Tae Kwant Thornton had one for thirty nine,
Juju three for thirty five. They've You're worthy three for
thirty five, nor A Grade one for twenty eight. Hollywood
Brown two for fourteen, and to.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Touch everybody getting in on the party.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Gino, you're gonna lose your job, bro, you keep this up.
Ten for sixteen sixty seven yards. Holdo, oh Joe, I
want to read something to you. I'm gonna want you.
And this this was like the Jets were last week.
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The Raiders had three first downs. The Chiefs had thirty
first christ. They were all seven on third downs of
one on fourth downs. They had a great They ran
thirty total plays. The Chiefs had as many first downs
as the Raiders had plays. Chat you heard me correctly.
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The Chiefs had as many first downs thirty as the
Raiders had total plays thirty. The Chiefs had four hundred
and thirty four total yards. The Raiders had ninety five
total yards. The Chiefs possessed the football forty two minutes.
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In eight seconds, it's a sixty minute game. That means
the Raiders possessed the football less than eighteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
It is almost as if the Raiders is not an
NFL team.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
It's almost as if the Raiders don't belong on the
field with the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Well, they did in today.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
And then the best defensive player got hit in the
knee and he went out, Matt Crosby. The Chiefs looked
very Patrick Mahome look good. Uh you know, Patrick Mahome's
out there. Thornton no look passes. You see him and
juju on the Hey, god come, he dumping the juju
right now. They're gonna get first down. Uh, Hollywood Brown
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is hey? Cross the guy's face. I'm gonna hit your
the ends on you and get your key touchdown. But
they're looking good. And when they're looking like this and
the defense is playing like they're playing O Joe.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
It's it's so funny. When the Chiefs started oh and two,
everybody has something to say. Yeah, they look bad offensively,
they look bad on defense. This ain't working. This ain't work.
And not look four weeks later, Yeah, looking like the
Kansas City Chiefs of old. Everybody back here. They now
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they having fun.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
You hit the nail on the head. They got everybody
back healthy. I mean, think about it. You got Rashid
Rice back, who's your number one? Xavier word that who
stepped up in the absence and he you get Taekwan
Thornton who all of a sudden, he looks like, Okay,
now I see why the Patriots took him in the
second round.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, he can run, but he can play.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Now he's not gonna get the same opportunities that he
got before because Rashid Rice is back. But juju is
all reliable. You know, they're gonna throw up and they're
gonna hey, they're gonna put running smoke screen, jail ery screens,
They're gonna run. They can do a lot of different
things with juju U twenty four to the running he's
a running back and the receiver. He can do a
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lot of different things. Patrick Mahons is Patrick Mahomes. You know,
he's scrambling and make plays. But the thing is he's
not turning the ball over. When he takes care of
the football. The Chiefs are almost impossible for you to
beat him if they don't turn the football over. And
he's done a great job of that. He looked fourteen touchdowns,
two interceptions. He's starting to look like the Patrick Mahons
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that we used to see.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
In the game before that, the Lions beat the Bucks
twenty four to nine. Jamier Gibbs two hundred and eighteen
yards from scrimmage. He had seventeen carres of buck thirty six.
He had eighty two yards on three catches. Oh Joe,
he had that. They had that combo block. You see,
that was the guard to tackle the did a combo
block that who that dah out of the way, got
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up on that backer and when.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
He hit that hole, I said, I feel I feel.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I felt bad for Winfield Junior because they're like, bro,
that man got a hit running you bester, Hey, he
should have just started taking off, try to run it
and try to intercept.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Make it five. He took an angle. That angle ain't matter.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Listen, Jamiir Gibbs. Jamiir Gibbs is probably the closest thing
we had with Chris Johnson. He probably the closest thing
we had with Chris Johnson right now in the NFL
at the running back position.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
He doesn't get talked about enough. We talk about b
john Oh.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yea yea yea yeah, yeah, yah yah yeah. He got
that kind of speed. Yes, he got that kind of speed.
O joke. He looked fast.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
You showed, he showed us.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
But you kate let a guy with that kind of feet,
O Joe come to the line of scrimmag jumps.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Hey, once he gets past us, you don't make him
check his feet. Listen, sometimes even if you make him
check his feet, he still might get you.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
True, true.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
But but without checking his feet, you got at all
at all? Oh true. You got to think about it.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
He didn't get touched right through that clean and hey,
hold on, that's like it's like that we say about
Darrick Henry. You got to make him check his feet
because if you let him get a run and start
coming down the hill. Hell no, don't nobody want.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
To touch it.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Who I'm gonna make a business decision. I'm gonna hit
every every shoe lace he got.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I'm gonna let him get past me and jump on
his back. Hey, hell nod, you ain't even knock me out.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Hell nah.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Twenty four to nine, Detroit go to five and two,
Tampa falls to five and two. Jerry Golf with twenty
and twenty nine two forty one, one touch down one
in aception with sacked four times me. I don't think
either quarter paid particularly well. I thought Baker had the
worst of the two nights because he was hired a
lot of throws. He missed miss twice for touchdowns. He
had Abuka once and hit the dB in the back,
(56:10):
and then he had another one that he wasn't able
to step into it. He undershot him on that one.
But I thought he was hot. He missed a lot
of throws. He had a lot of guys open though.
Joe he was high to night for some reason. I
don't know if the pressure got to him or what
the case was, but he was high on a lot
of throws tonight. They didn't run the ball particularly well twelve.
(56:32):
They didn't have a whole lot of rush attempts. Twelve
carries for forty one yards. Baker threw it fifty times
because they fell behind. They were down fourteen to three,
and then Jered Golf had had that turnover. But uh,
Detroit defense is playing unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
They got to give Kevin, Kevin Shappard his flowers.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
They got to give Kevin a job.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
Not only not only did he call win hell of
a game right understanding the injuries that they have right now.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
The whole the whole back and is gone damn near. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Carry Joseph Brian Robinson, Armstead, I mean Arnold, excuse me, Arnold,
not Arnold.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Brian Brian Branch carrying out?
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Oh, Brian Branch. Uh uh no carry rock carry? What's carry?
Joseph her Karry Joseph he's Kirby. No, it's Kry Yeah, Kirby, Kirby,
Joseph Arnold. So they got three starters out of the secondary,
and those guys that came, oh, they played the ass
us balling, balling, they played their ass off. Hallott eight tackles.
(57:45):
What do you call was being his disruptive self.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Hutchison. He didn't have a sack, but he called a
Hu's nice.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
Now that's nice.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah, we had a sack and a half bars had
a sack. Jack Capbell had a sack.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
The office didn't look like itself though today on it
ain't looking like yourself.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
No, obviously you're going to you're going against the Tampa
Bay defense that they ain't no slouch eating They ain't
no slouch eater. So I think that's why it almost
look I hate using the word human, but most of
the time we watch the Lions offense, they do things
that are different from everybody else.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
They take chances that other.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
Teams definitely wouldn't take. Going forth for fourth and fourth,
going forth for fourth and two.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
I mean, they put a lot of pressure on you
can't rely so Jo exactly exactly so, and see that's
the thing normal tonight.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
With the Lions.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
It's really four downs because a lot of teams you're like, okay,
we get the third a, let's get off the field
on third down. Nah, there's a great chance you're probably
gonna have to stay on the field if it's fourth
and fourth less depending on where. First of all, if
it's fourth and one, if they're in the midfield, well
if if if they're on the other side of it,
feel and if it's probably fourth and territory, yeah, They
(59:05):
put a lot and they put a lot of damn
pressure on you, and and it's hard to stay focused
because they're so creative.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
They do a lot of things. Hey man, you started
to swing that ball to Jamior Gibbs and was out
there running. He was moving.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Uh yeah, I'm like, wait a minute, look at buddy.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Yeah, I'm glad Winfield dodged it because he running that
fans he'd hit somebody. He'd hurt somebody. Man arm and
Ross Saint Brown was arm in Ross Saint Brown. He
had six catches eighty six yards the touchdown, Gibbs with
three for eighty two. Uh. Gibbs again, seventeen carries above
thirty six two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Uh he I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Look, we talk about these backs, and there's some great backs,
but right now, Gibbs, b Sean Robinson, uh and Jonathan
Taylor they're they're they're they're they're the top three.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Absolutely, you know what.
Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
I hate the fact that we have to leave, Sayquon
off that list, but I think at some point, oh,
we got you. As the season goes on, I think
things open up. He just has to continue to be patient,
keep on chucking. You know though, those runs are going
to come. Because as as you start to have success
in the past, maybe just maybe defenses say, okay, you
(01:00:24):
know what, we're not gonna make ja. We're not gonna
allow Jallinghurst to beat us. Since Saxon one hasn't had
any success so far this season, let's see if you
can still do what he did last season.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
The Seahawks take down the Texans twenty seven nineteen. JS
and Jackson Smith and Jigbuk and the Seahawks defense were
sensational and Texans offense at some at many points in
time to night that Joe looking up CJ. Stroud, Look,
you're gonna see he had decent numbers, but it was
late in the ball game and they need a meaningful
(01:01:01):
third down conversion when they needed meaningful first fourth down conversion,
when they needed to get the ball into the end zone,
they came up, came up really short. Uh. Sam Donald
was awful tonight. They won the game, but he was awful.
Two terrible picks, got strip sacked in the end zone,
almost got locked for another safety. Let's start from let's start.
(01:01:24):
Let's let's take it from go ahead and take it
to start from the Seattle Seattle won the game there
five and two. If I'm not mistaken, I think they're
tied with the forty nine ers for number one in
the division at five and two, followed by the Rams.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But yeah, Joe, that deep. Seattle's by the Mans.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
They're very disruptive.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Okay, so all the Rams, Niners, and Seahawks are all
five and two. Obviously the Cardinals are not five and two.
Jackson Smith and Jacky look, we can say.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
All I know is this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You can rank him where you want to, but I
don't believe he's gonna be there very much longer. He
is the best route. Hey, he can do it all
that release he got the release game. He quicker, the
cat on the on the marble table, got great hands man.
He's special. Little he's special. And they got a lot
(01:02:26):
of guys that come out of Ohio state. They got
a Larve and they got Garrett Marlson, they got Michael,
they got a Marvin Harrison junior, and they got they
got Jamo.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
But that kid there, he's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
He's nice.
Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Every he's everything that is advertised everything. And yeah, I
mean listen, he's always been here. You understand now you
understand how good he is when the team was willing
to let DK Metcalf go and let Ty Locker go
because they understood what they had on their hands.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
They understood what they had on their hands. He's very good,
very very very very polished. Receiver.
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Cooper Cup through one pick out.
Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Sam Donald had one pick Cooper Cup through the pick
that over through the dbat over through the receiver and
uh and got it picked. But Sam Donald still was
awful even with the one pick and the strip sack
in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
And you know what, you know, honestly, Sam Donald could
have a game like this because it took for me
to get the week seven to have this type of game.
We're looked nasty and they needed the defense to satan
because the defense saved. It looked like the Houston Texas,
especially theirs the first had they didn't even belonging the
goddamn game. They couldn't get anything going offensively, They couldn't
(01:03:37):
find any rhythm. See the Stroud was was flushed out
of the pocket. He was flushed up up in the pocket.
He had some drops as well. So I mean it
did it didn't help them. It was twenty four, it
was you know, that was that would Nico Collins.
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
I have one question.
Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
What happened with with Joe Mixon? He hurt they see
he didn't want an injury from still from last year
after Week four. If I'm not mistaken, nah, I think
that's one of the reasons why they ended up signing
the job because of that. But see, this is what's
(01:04:19):
concerning because we saw this last year with Sam Donald.
Remember late in the season when they started playing, when
they got they had to play Detroit and they had
to play teams with defenses, and we see what happened
that concerted. Look, their defense is going to keep him
in every game. Their defense is going to keep them
in every game because they're that good. Now when they
(01:04:40):
get Witherspoon back. But that D line, that front seven,
Ernie Jones, the four, the real deal.
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
How close? How close do you think they are? Well, no,
that's that's kind.
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Of I think the Rams are the best team in
that division me personally.
Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Isn't it because of their offense?
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
But if their defense good too? Now, don't sleep on
the defense.
Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Good, but the good Are they as good as the Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
But let me ask you a question, is the Seahawks
offense as good as the Rams expect, because remember that
they did what they did the Jacksonville with a pooka.
They can run it with Kyrin Williams. I think the
Rams running game is a little better than the Seahawks.
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, I think
their passing game. I definitely know the quarterback is better.
(01:05:31):
Matthew Stafford is better than Sam Donald. Now you're gonna
go wide receiver, You say, pooh, couldn't Devonte Adams Higby?
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Are they as good as if set?
Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yes, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I'll I'll give them, I'll give them the nod. They
can rush the passing with those two guys on the edge,
They're good.
Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Good. You got to forget now we Seattle does have
a triple crown with it. I was just on that
Ram team not too long ago.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah yeah, O yo oh yo, he ain't the same
O Joe. You know that, you watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Wait wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Okay, even if he's not the same, there's certain players
they're there a hundred, they're one hundred percent, or them
being an eighty is sometimes better than other players that
are at one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Of course he's not.
Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Now when you're looking now, when you're looking at the rams.
So let me ask you a question. Is he better
than debotation? Not?
Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Okay? Is he better than Pooka?
Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
So what do we do?
Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
So?
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
If he's their number he's If he's their number two receiver,
Pookah's number one, he's number two. Now if you want
to say, Jack, JSN and Pooka right their neck and
neck because Pookah made the Pro Bowl, Pookah had a
hundred cat guy back to the back season, if I'm
not mistaken, So we know what Pooka is.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
JSN is special. He's really I mean, this is really.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
My first time just getting an opportunity to sit down
and just watch him. Ain't no other game though, because
oh Joe, you know, I'm trying to watch to Seattle
and I'm trying to watch this team, and I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
To watch that team.
Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
But I'm talking about he had my undivided attention, and
I'm watching his releases and I'm watching him get in
and out of breaks.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Oh he quick up the cattle on the hot well.
Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
You know, you know he was down here. He came
out here to why receive a workshop?
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
So I was I was Yeah, I was. I was
able to see it up close, and obviously he got
feed on, got some.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Good feet on him. He got some real good feet
on him. It's one thing. It's one thing you think
is you hear about players and you think, oh, he
come from Ohio State. So they just hype up those individuals.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
But he is everything he's advertised to be, especially when
you get to see it up close in person and
then you see it happen tonight obviously not just tonight,
but obviously the throughout the entirety of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
So it gives you a better understanding. Oh now I
get it. Now, I see what all the hype was for.
Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Now I see why it was so easy for them
to let DK Metcalf go, let tired of life and
go because they understand what they had on their hands.
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
They got something special. Oh he he the real He
a real deal, O Joe. He he is the he
is the real deal. And you know, hey, after next season,
they're gonna have to come seeing he gonna probably be
he gonna ay, he gonna look to get that high thirty.
He's gonna be in the high thirties, forty million. I
don't know how because here's the thing. That contract. By
(01:08:19):
the time he get his contract, that contract to be
almost three years old. You can't keep saying well, no, no, no, no, no,
we keep dropping that. We keep driving that price up.
We were not finish, just a we're not just finished.
Get slotted. Oh chase the oh no, Chase was the best.
He got that money three years ago. Now it's time
for us to pull vault even if we got But man,
(01:08:40):
that joke of that man. He is so quick, oh Joe,
damn in and out of the breaks, and he's.
Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
So he's more he's more quick than fast.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
He's not yet.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Oh yeah, he's so goddamn quick. And he's able to
manipulate dvs. But you ain't see that. You ain't see that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Uh that Uh how sad that release he think him
in said, then he got outside all.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
The talking about then the dena route on on Stingley.
Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah yeah. But but
but the thing is goo Joe perfect a perfect throw,
a beat, perfect coverage.
Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
You can't throw you can't play it anymore better than that,
because I got to honor I got to honor that
for the simple fact o Joe is that he could
possibly run the seven route on me. So I just
can't sell out to the post. Ain't nobody in the hole.
But if you look at when Sam Donald threw that
ball he had and he broke here, that ball was
out of Now the only thing I will say, uh
(01:09:41):
Stingley gave up a seven route with a safety in
the hole.
Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Bro run to him.
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
If you run, if you run, if you run the post,
the safety should knock you out. I need to be
doing this to the ambulance to come get you.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
But you not finish. You not finish.
Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Run no seven route and cover and cover one on
me because guess what I ain't going for. I ain't
going for the post move because I got a safety
in the whole. I'm gonna run to your hip because
that's why I'm vulnerable. And guess what, get him every time?
Because you know what, manet, I'm fine undercut the seven routs.
I'm fine undercutting you see they get so caught up. Man,
(01:10:17):
I'm a df O cho. They get that O joe.
You give him that head. Get this bro, you got
help there and you're weak over here. No need you
get him every time, No need to cheat it.
Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
But uh man, I don't know what's it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Look CJ's twenty three or forty nine two twenty nine
one touch one touchdown, one interception. He was sacked three times,
and he was pressured, relentlessly dodged the bullet, he got stripped, sacked,
he got fumbled the ball that should have been that
should have been. That was a fumble but ended up
turning into a should down. It could have should have
absolutely should have been a touch down. The offensive line,
(01:11:01):
I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
I mean, you look at them and sometimes you got
two guys blocking one guy and another guy running. Scott
free bro pass that ish off and don't turn your body.
Just put a hand there so you can see it's coming.
Because what you do this is a rap to try
to turn back. That guy gonna be on your shoulders
so fast, man, you ain't got no fan
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