August 5, 2025 • 59 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson share their biggest NFL moments of the week on Nightcap! The duo reacts to the Cleveland Browns' shocking and questionable decision to list Shedeur Sanders as the fourth-string quarterback on the depth chart. Plus, Shannon opens up about the emotional experience of watching his brother Sterling Sharpe get inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, making history as the first pair of brothers in Canton.
0:00 - Travis Hunter named starter on Offense, 2nd string on defense
13:18 - Anthony Richardson bounce back season?
21:34 - Sterling Sharpe HOF weekend
37:10 - Shedeur Sanders 4th string QB?!?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Liam Cohen, head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguise, says Travis
(00:22):
Hunter winning offensively and defensive Rookie of the Year, It's
possible Travis is listed as the start on offense and
the backup on defense. To have a chance of winning
both the wards, you need to be playing full time
offensive defense. So what do you think? Like it?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I like it?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I don't defensively, I don't think you win it.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I think defensively, Rookie of the Year is probably gonna
be at Dual Carter.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's gonna be abdual Carter.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm not sure what the workload would look like for
asking gent down there in Las Vegas, but I think
he would probably probably come in second. But watching that
Dual Carter and knowing what he can do defensively, especially
coming off that edge, he's gonna be a menace.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Is to be a man, And you think about it,
he got he got Lawrence, he got them and Ope,
so Piggy choose he got a he got a top
two three defensive tackle. Uh, he got cabon them. Old
that can you know, we know what he can do.
He can rush the pass when he's healthy. So it's
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gonna be hard to slide and and and try to
like double him and take him away. Uh. You know, Normally,
what we've seen is that quarterbacks get a get a
get a premium on winning Rookie the Year because oh Joe,
they got the ball. Joe gonna be throwing. He throw
thirty touchdowns. It's hard to overcome back. Now you have
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a situation like Chase. You know, Chase put fourteen hundred
yards up, so it was hard to deny deny him.
You look at who else, like you said, gently running backs,
you get three hundred carriage every four to half five
yards to carry. That's that's fourteen fifty hundred yard right there. No, absolutely,
(02:06):
and then guess what fourteen fifteen hundred yards with twelve
fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I like, I like, I like, I like, I like
the offensive rookie of the year. They gonna get him
that ball. They gonna get him that ball. Listen, Brian
Toman Jr. He's not gonna Brian Toman Jr.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Is going to.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Do exactly what he did last year plus something. But
because Tom jam is so great at what he does
so early, he's gonna be the one to get double.
He's gonna be the one to get double. And that's
when trav is gonna do what he does. He's gonna
be gonna make the plays that he makes. I'm curious
when they when they go Nickel. I wonder if trap
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coming on nickel.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh, yeah, for sure. All that the question is either
gonna be outside or either gonna be inside.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think it'd be inside the start off.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
You say so, Yeah, he tall. I think he's I
think he better outside.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Okay, see, I don't, I don't. I don't know the
depth chart for the for the Jaguars, I'm not sure.
I'm sure they probably do have a Nickel, so they might.
I'm not sure how it's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Hey, oh, chore, you know them guys enough slot man,
them jokes stopping on them lab cons. Hey, they running
that ride on you? They running that? Will they running
that that will route?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's different.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You get got like Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Hey, did Keenan Allen just go back to he went
back to the charge. I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, I like I like that move too, I do.
I like that move.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
A familiar with the system, so all they got.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Familiar offense, familiar with at the quarterback. I like it.
I like that move. There's there, it is on your screen.
Do you see it? The depth chart?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Nice, it's not it's not up there.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's not said tell you right now. Let me see.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Let me check that out real quick.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, he's gonna be starting because right now, Jordan Lewis
is the nickelback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You got Tyson Campbell, you got Jerry and Jones.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh, Jordan Lewis is there, okay, okay, yeah from the Cowboys. Yeah,
oh yeah, he definitely oh yeah, he definitely didn't know,
didn't no disrespect Darnelle Savage.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Savage, I think he's from Green Bay, right like Armstead,
Josh Hines, Allen, so ola coon.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They got it. They got a nice lott got a
nice little squad.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
What I am happy to be back to a nice
little squad.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, they're gonna be. They're gonna be all right, Y's.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I see you. I missed you too, buddy. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
When you get special players like that, man, all you
got to do is put them in.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Position man, and it opens up everything else you can do.
You can do more. You have certain type of players
with a special skill set.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That's why I like what the Steelers have this year.
Excuse me on defense.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You know they tailed off towards the end of the
season for for whatever reason, but they have so much
now where they can do more. It opens up the playbook.
Because you have a certain set of players that have
special skill sets, it allows you to do more than
what you could last time, last year for that matter.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting. Like I said, it's
I mean, I just I think that's just asking a
lot of the young man to play at that elite
level and to try to play two positions. He grown
men out here that is different.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Listen, you said he could do it. We're gonna find out.
We're gonna find out real soon.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I have a question as does he play in the
preseason or not.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I think you got to give him. I think
you gotta get let me go.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Okay, okay, get used to that, get it, get used
to that speed of the game because it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's completely different than practice. Titus, what up, Twin?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I guess you can twell. I guess you can tell.
I've been gone for twelve days.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You've been going that long. Hey, Titus, what up Twin?
Come on, come on down to Miami. I take it
to the dog park over in Midtown.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yuh, he said, I'm intact. He said, they'll they throw
us both out. He attacted me. He still got to
see he's still he's still.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's the whole point I give.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's a nice, nice, nice look nice poodles out there,
a little colleagues, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
People sue you man, Stop stop, that's nothing. Get me
all scratched up.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Hey, they about showing for every goddamn thing day Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So it's all right. I'm worry about it. I ain't ship,
I ain't got.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It, I know. Uh, but it's gonna be very interesting
to see. He's starting wide receiver opposite of Brian Thomas Jr.
And then he's back up to uh, Jerry and Jones,
so hey paying him a boatload of money. He says
(07:49):
he can he can do it. Let's see what he can.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Do prove all the doubters wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Mm hmm. The Colorado Buffalo Football have added Travis Hunting
Shaduor Sanders successes to their Legacy Hall Colorado Colorado Buffalo Football.
They tweeted two new legends one historic Hall, Welcome to
Legacy Hall, Travis Hunt and Shador Sanders. Many had issues
(08:19):
with your doer in Travis's jersey being retired by coach
Prime so quickly, o Jo. Did Sanders and Hunters do
enough to be immortalized so quickly? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I would think so.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
There have been some other other great great college players.
I'm not sure if they brother Cordell Stewart. If I'm not,
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
The running back.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Not well, Rajean Salam who's no longer with He won
the Heisman, he wonted. He their first he won the
Heisman they've had. Look, it's one more. I think it's
Supreme Court he's a Supreme Court justice Byron Wizzer White.
I think it was a Supreme Court justice. He was
the first great Colorado player.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Here another running back, running back? I think you were
a number.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Uh they had, they had Eric v Enemy Yeah. Yeah,
the Darien Hagen J J. J. Flanagan came out with me.
But they had some they had really good football players,
I mean defensive players. You know, Chad Brown, they had
Alfred Williams, they had Chris Hudson, Ronnie Brown, and they
I mean they've had some, they've had some, They've had
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some some good players. They've had some good players. You know.
Michael Westbrook came Ray Ruth oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Brooke game out of there. He and Cordelle was on
the same team.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I mean, listen, it's it's I mean Prime Prime saw
saw and felt it was it was fitting, you know,
to retire, especially with what they did.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They had two good.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Seasons, they turned that program around. I don't really see
anything wrong with it, especially based off what the team
looked like before they got there.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And there should be nothing to be mad at.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, look, you always gonna have some people, because there
are some people that says, hey, there are some guys
that came before them, and they probably should have. You know,
I don't think the issue is the retirement of the Jerseys.
I think it's the time and how soon they so
like a lot of these say, if it happened twenty
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and time was said, hold on, so what Rachelle you
do rash Salam number? But look what it took for
you to do it. You gave him flywers, but he
ain't here to smell them. So I think I could
be wrong. Now I'm speaking as if I said Okay,
that's how I'm thinking. I'm thinking out loud, so you
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guys can hear me. It's like, okay, I't got no problem.
You want to retire Travis, you want to try your door?
Can we make it late like twenty years? I'm different. Look,
let me tell you your versus South Carolina retire my
brother's number. He was still playing. So who who am I?
(11:02):
Savannah State? They didn't retire my number. They just didn't
wouldn't give it out. There are a lot of guys
that came in wanted to wear the number two and
and and I remember Mackie who was a trainer, the
head athletic trainer. And Bill David said, I don't think
you guys realized who actually wore that number. Yeah, coach,
you have a sharp one. Ward like MM three time
(11:28):
first team Black College All American, a Kodak All American,
three time Player Player of the Year, Offensive player, of
the year, Georgia State Player of the year. They ain't
a whole lot of black college players can say they
were state player of the year. I beat University of
Georgia players out. I beat Georgia Tech players out. For
that war, Yeah, Bill say, uh, and so Coch Davis
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had passed and the uh, the president got in touch
with Bucket. Bucket put me in touch with him, says
he shouldn't nobody. They're talking to everybody that was here
and some of the some of the faculty was still there. Nah,
so they come to bother you, not Jordan's uh. So
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honestly with you, I think that has a lot to
do with it. It's not that the numbers got retired.
There's like is that there's like they bypassed the line.
So you know, Alfred Williams, the Chad Brown who was
Buckets Award winners and things like that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Why would whoever was in the position of power, why
didn't they have him retired?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Then, bro, don't start me to line. I don't know.
I don't know that much about Colorado. I mean, I
played in the state and I'm familiar with them, but
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Listen, if they felt that much about them, and they
were great as they were during their time there. Whoever
was in place should have retired them, should have retired
to Jersey if they saw fit. So I'm not sure
why people are complaining Deon Sanders during his time having
your door.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
H I mean, I'm confused. It makes no sense. Tra
Travis Hunter the top selling Jersey when he was playing,
and I'm not somebody in general.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
The coach released their first official depth chart on today
ahead of their Thursday preseason game against the Ravens Quarterbacks.
Election depth chart reads as follows. Daniel Jones or Anthony
Richardson Senior.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oh I like that, I like I like how he
did that, they said, or right, But that thing up
in the air.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Huh that thing is it is up in the air.
It's up. Oh my goodness man.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I'm I'm hoping Anthony Richardson doing everything possible. I hope
he's doing everything right, going the extra mile, watching extra film,
staying at the practice of the receivers, talking to your
officer coordinator, talking to your.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Head coach, to doing everything you can to make sure
you do your best to win that job.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Sorry, what I don't get though, Look, I believe you
could have got the same I believe you could have
got the same results. Bringing the guy in there and
says say, I'm gonna give you an equal opportunity to
compete with this job and pay him five million, oh
as to bro as opposed to bringing Daniel Jones in
there and paying him fourteen million, because you got an
expensive ass backup if you doesn't win.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
The job, that's that's the agent. The agent worked his magic.
The the agent worked his magic. The agent got it,
got in that money.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think it was anywhere else he would have got
No fourteen million to be no backup, No, yeah, and
plus and.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Plus o Joe, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to
compete for a starting job, and a whole lot of
places we're gonna give himn opportunity to compete for a
starting job. So this is I mean, and I get it.
I would have went there also fourteen million and a
legitimate opportunity to compete for a job. Most definitely can't
complain about that. But you're absolutely right, Anthony Richardson. He
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needs to stay healthy. Hopefully he's learned from some of
the mistakes that he's made. Over his first two years,
and and through that process of maturity, and and and
and just understanding what it takes to be a professional quarterback.
Hopefully he's able to turn the corner.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You don't have a choice about to turn the corner.
You know what third You know what a third year means, right, Yeah,
that should make it a breaking here. That's when teams
make a decision.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know what, are you our future or are you not?
Or do we need to keep looking for someone at
that position?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well? Third year. Guess what they normally do with quarterbacks
when they play well, they normally reward them after the
third year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
This is this is this is here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So yeah, look he has a you know, he's he's
saying all the right things. You know, hey, I gotta
you know, I gotta eat a certain way. I gotta
cut the candy out on Joe. I gotta eat like
a professional. I have to do things like a professional.
I have to study. I got to be the first
one in. He's saying all the right things. Now it's
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a matter of doing all that lines up. You say this,
you do this, and because they look, you look at
that team offensively, they got they got a good team.
B Joe. They really do. When you look at that
skill position players, you look at their running back. They
got a solid offensive line, they got a nice defensive line.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
They got a good day, They surely do.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, they got some good players. But I just spent
the last couple of year. They've been held back by
the quarterback. There's no other way around it. And we're
not taking those shots, Sat and we're not beating nobody down.
It's it's just just the it's just the facts that
their quarterback play has been insufficient, inadequate, not and when
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you got and when you got those you got Jonathan Taylor,
and you got Michael Pittman Jr. Piman Jr. And you
got Peers and you got all those guys, No, Bro
and Downs. What's what's the other?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Uh is it? McMillan, No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
No no. They got Peers ju Uh, Pittman Jr. And
they got another guy.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think you were number ten. If I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Mistaken, I might might might be saying his last name.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, Oh, Ady Mitchell Mitchell, that's what that's about. Millan Mitchell,
Ady Mitchell at.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Downs, Josh Downs. Yeah, they got they got some, they
got some. They got some skill position.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Player, Ady Mitchell gonna be nice by.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah. Defensively, that front seven they're really good. Now the
back end they y'all need to tighten up a little bit,
but they they got a nice front seven. Quarterback play
need to match that when you've accumulated that kind of
talent because guess what, O, Joe uh, you like to think,
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And that's what teams do. They try to, Hey, let's
mortgage this thing. We gotta you see what Houston the
Texans are doing. They're like, we got this quarterback on
a Rickey contract because that next contract, it's gonna be
kind of hard to be able to keep all these
pieces around said individual player. Even if he gives you
a discount, he's gonna give you one hundred million dollar discount.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be incumbent
on Anthony Richardson to do better, to play better. We're
gonna look, he got drafted on potential with Joe. That's
what it was. He was basically a fifty percent quarterback
in college. He's a fifty percent quarterback in high school.
He's been a fifty percent quarterback. But the tools that
he presents. I mean, oh Joe, he's sixty five, he's
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two forty five, he ran four to four. He could
throw the ball eighty yards, throw the ball fifty yards
on one knee, all that side. But this is not
the Football Olympics.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Put it together.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You need precision, you need touch, you need understanding, you
need the ability to process information, decipher that information, and
then the ball needs to be gone to the right
player in the right position.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't think you're not breaking We're not breaking news
to anybody. You watch the game. You know his play
needs to get better in order for them to be
the type of team that that the Colts want to be.
He's got the Oh Joe, he's got the vastly improved
We ain't talking about no marginal improvement. We're talking about
vastly improved jumps. Yes, huge jump. He's got to and
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look and it's gonna be. Look, it's gonna be. The
owner Jim Ersay passed away. His daughters are running the
team now, so you know they're gonna have that. You
know they're gonna be played. I'm sure Shane Steichen, who's
the head coach, is telling them, Hey, we got to
play for something, you know, mister ersay, this season is
dedicated to him and X, Y and Z, and rightfully so.
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But mister Richardson's bro, you gotta perform. Yes, they're paying you. Hey,
they took you, they took a chance. And that's the
only thing. Oh Joe, you say you're the man. I
want a sure thing. If things like this that gets
you fired, because the last thing I want to be
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doing is taking a quarterback three years ago, and I'm
right back in the draft taking a quarterback again. M hmm.
I supposed to be trying to find I was supposed
to be trying to Yo I buy a house. Oh Joe,
I ain't trying to buy a house in three years.
I'm just added pieces. I made some pool, some pool fool.
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Maybe I get an end table something like that. On Joe,
I ain't really a whole new house.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's a that's a good one. That's a good that's
a good analogy.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I like that, and so that's that's that's Anthony Richardson.
He's gotten improved to the point that they just add
pieces around him. You don't want to be repeat the
piece that gets replaced.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
First first, first, first, first, Oh Joe, this weekend. Yeah,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Tell everybody take it time, and I take a time.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Obviously I went through this. I experienced this, uh fourteen
years ago in twenty eleven, and and it was a
great It was unbelievable. I mean it was a great honor.
But this one topped it. Yes, this one topped it
because of the significance of it. What my brother meant
to me and o cho to be in that Nichki
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luncheon on Friday, and here Rod Woodson and here are
Nils Williams, and here Darryl Green and some of the
defensive players be it Richard Dan and Johnny Randall, say, man,
this was long overdue for your brother to hear. To
hear them say that, because they're to I already knew it.
You appreciate to the choir, Yeah, I sing up here
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every Sunday, so you I ain't new to the car
I ain't in the I ain't new to the congregation.
I'm here. I'm backing you up every week. So I
know what he is. I know what he was, and
to to to see him finally get that recognition and
to my mom, you know there'll be other moms that
have sons in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but
they won't be first to have my sister and my
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coach who coach both of us, coach, my entire family,
my kids there, my sister all and my niece uh
Susan in summer there to to to witness that and
to experience that old Joe man.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Look here, and that's a great feeling, boy.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Man, O Joe Man. I can't it's it's hard for
me to describe Ojo. And and I knew I would
be emotional, even though I had already you know, I
was his presenter, and I had already done my part
via video. So I did that a couple of weeks before,
and so I thought. But the more he talked, the
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more he talked, And when he says, I only have
a couple of minutes left, but the last couple of minutes,
I want, I want, I want you, you got to come
up here. Yeah, And when he called and when he
called me to the stage, and I had no idea
what he was gonna say. He you know, he didn't
write anything down. He was the only one that didn't
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have notes. He didn't have anything he said, I'm just
gonna speak from the heart. That's how you know, That's
pretty much how he does all the speaking. And to
hear him say that everything he did was for an
audience of one. He didn't care what you wrote about him.
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He didn't care what you said about him. None of
that mattered because the only person that he wanted to
impress was me. Everything that he did was because of me.
And to hear him says, you know, you know, you
can't leave without without without following. And to hear him
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because it's almost like I'm like, it's replaying the very
the very words, and how I felt about him, how
I feel about him, and to hear him say that,
and to know the relationship that he and I have,
and I think people got an opportunity to see that
on full display, even on Friday night at the Gold
(25:01):
Jacket presentation. When you know, you walk the gauntlet, you
go through all the Hall of Famers, and we had
almost a record, so we had one hundred and eleven
members back now, mind you, of three hundred and eighty two,
my brother is the three hundred and eighty second member
of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And if I'm
not mistaken. I think there are one hundred and eighty
one living members, so that means they're over. They're two hundred,
(25:23):
two hundred and one that are no longer with us.
Talking to Bobby Bell this morning getting on the plane,
he's one fifteen. There's only six with a lord number
than him that's still remaining. So and then, you know,
you know, seeing all that, but to be there and
to experience it, oh joy. My brother's really not an
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emotional guy. Like I said, I think I've only a
handful of times. And like you said, when Papa died,
he didn't cry. When when Daddy died, he didn't cry.
When Granny passed, he didn't cry. But to be in
his presence and to know what this moment meant to him, right,
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my brother don't let a whole lot of things bothering
and and and and, but to be around him, Joe,
because I know him better than anybody. I know him
better than anybody. I know what this moment meant to him.
I know what he felt. My supposed to say. Hell,
I thought he was gonna pick you up off the
floor at the gold Jacket ceremony, I said, yeah, and
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throw his back out in the process. But Ocho man
to see to see how he was walking around and
to see the love and the kudos that he was
getting from those other Gold Jacket wears and the members
and at his party, and to have the bust and
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to have his family. Because we don't get we don't
like I said, oh, Joe, we don't get together much.
And and I said, bro, we got to do a
better job of that. I say, look, when you really
cut it down to I said, us is me, you, Mama,
and Libby, my kids and you know Susan. And someone
said we got to do a better job. Bro, we
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got to do a better job. I said, you know,
theoretically mom could not still outlive us along, but come on,
we can do a better job than what we've been doing.
But oo, that was that was the crown achievement. That
ain't nothing topping that. Ain't nothing topping that, old yo,
Because there there, there's there's If you play a sport,
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to go into your sports heaven, and that's what the
Hall of Fame is, be it baseball, basketball, soccer, tennis, swimming,
rock and roll hall of fame. If you go into
your professions heaven, that's what the Hall of Fame is
you when you get there? Okay, now that's it. That's it.
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And man, I cried. I've been up all night. The
the love and the respect that was shown to my brother. Man.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Oh choke, yeah, I already listened you boy, I already know.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I already Jordan up poasting so much stuff. I'm like
with damn, I'm looking at my feet and I'm like,
dam did you go to sleep in the middle of
the because every time collab, collad post post posed, like.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
With damn, thinking up. Listen, somebody sent me something. They
didn't have your information, you said, photo gallery.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I sent you.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Uh you should sent me something.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Man, No, this was a few days ago, remember.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Somebody didn't have Yeah, they ain't have your information.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Shoot, they sent me the whole photo gallery.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh man, it's it's that moment, bro, and you know,
riding in the parade and everybody because it was the packers.
The packers have really well and to see some of
his teammates because I don't know if you noticed O
Joe when he sat down with me. I didn't know
this at the time. I didn't I didn't know he
never shared this then. So what he said on the
pod was the first time that when he had his
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next surgery, no one called him. Not a teammate, not
a coach, not a front office. We call hell getting
him to accept them doing this party, I said, because
what I told him, I said, now you have to
understand the people that's.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
In place now were in place.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Then, I said, Now, I'm not saying that your anger
isn't warranted. I said, but in this situation, it's misplaced.
The people that you should be upset with, they.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Weren't there long gone.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They were there. And I didn't know, like I said, Oo,
I didn't that I did. Oh Joe the man, there's
a chance that he could have been paralyzed, Yes, sir,
from neck down. He could have been a quadriplet. Now,
mind you, his last season he still has tied for
the third most receiving touchdowns in a single season, and
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he never played another season. So he goes under the
knife and not no, not just imagine, oh Joe, you
go through a surgery that you could be paralyzed or worse.
The owner, a coach, a teammate, not even TJ not Carson,
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not the general manager, not your head coach, not even you, Jack.
No one calls you and checks on you.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Shit boy, Listen, that is that that tells you all
you need to all you need to know, though you
hear me, So think about the people you just named,
Think about the people you just name.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Nothing is even wrong with me and everybody you just name,
I've talked to at least three three times a month.
I am of no value to Marvin Lewis r R.
I'm of no value to Hugh Jackson anymore. Hell, TJ,
me and TJ we in the group chat with about
twenty bangals. So that's a constant, a constant, uh you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Know, form of communication. But that that would hurt so bad.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It did bothered the.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
People that I went to war within, the people that
I'm playing for not giving me a call with the
extent of my injury, with a chance I could be
paralyzed and I can't play ball the more. And nobody
reached out, not a flower, not a motherfucking card.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
My damn, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So I think that that that bothered him the most. Yeah,
and uh, he still I was like, bro, you know,
and and he's finally like, like letting it go because
my brother, you know he you know, he he's he
don't hit you over the head with it. But Carre's
this Bible. He goes to church, he reads the scripture.
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So he's and so he's learned, Oh Joe, that I've
got to let this go. He says, I can't be
what I'm proclaiming to be if I still have this
in my heart. And so, but it was it was
tough for him. I'm number I remember to sixty seven.
He's remember three eighty two. I think they said, over
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thirty thousand men have played this game, coached this game,
on the team, been a general manager. Thirty thousand, three
hundred and eighty two men have a gold jacket. They said,
over three hundred, three hundred million men have played the
game of football. They just say again on Joe, three
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hundred million. So my mom my, Mom's like, I got
two boys talking about I probably need to scan. I
might have another son out there somewhere. I say, you don't,
you don't. You ain't got another son, You ain't got
another daughter. I promise you, this is all. This is
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all you got is out. You got what you got
daddy A you told daddy shop was closed after me.
You say, hey, when they ask you, they say, Papa
asked her. Say, well, Alice, what you want daddy. I
don't give a damage. It's a lizard. I'm done. So
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you got what you got, Mama. That's it. But she
was happy with my farm. My coach, Coach Hall, like
I said, you know, he was there, coached all my uncles.
My uncle started started started graduating high school in nineteen
sixty six. Nineteen sixty six, I graduated eighty six. He
talked for fifty years and having him there, but oh, Joe,
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I don't know if you saw this, I know you
couldn't pick it up. But at the gold jacket ceremony,
what they did they started doing. I don't know when
they started it. This is my first time back since
twenty nineteen. Is that obviously you walk the gauntlet, you know,
so you have four guys to walk this way, two
guys walk that way, and you got all the Hall
of Fames and they give it a congratulations, welcome to
the paturnity, welcome to the brotherhood. Then you get up
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on stage and then I was really the only presenter
that was actually there, Dean Spanos who presented No his dad.
His dad was yeah, his dad was there. I think
his dad was there. Jared Allen's dad was there. Put
the code on him, Marcus put the code on Eric Allen,
and then Lt. Ladanie and Thomas and put it on
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Gates Antonio Gates. But anyway, and so you know, they
come up, they bring your family out, they bring let
your kid, your wife come up, your kids come up,
your mom block X, Y and Z so Jared Allen. Yeah, family,
Jared Allen families comes up there and everybody. He's excited,
you know, his wife is excited. The girls come running
to him. I think one of the one of his
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daughters had on cowboy boots, so the cowboy. But anyway,
you know we got a signature sie that you move,
oh Joe, you know what they do. He calf rope.
He go down on one knee. Ghet the tied up
and who wa uh he go down on one knee,
calf rope that thing. Yeah, they his pants so where
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I am I can see. I think he ripped his
pants from the back of the knee all the way
up to the top of his belt.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Real.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, So now they got to rush over again. They
got to rush over because the hotel is really close
by where they're staying. They got to rush over, get
a police he's court, and get him a pair of pants,
because you.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Know, that's funny, that's funny. Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
There there's a clip out there and I know we
didn't a chance to vet it and uh we don't
know who it belongs to, but there's a clip out there,
and you can see him. He grabbed the back and
he grabs. At first I thought he had tweets. I said, damn,
you tweet your hamstring. You don't do no, you know.
But then as he started to move, I was like, nah, bro,
you ripped, you ripped him, and he really did. But
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it was great this, Like I said, I know, Gates
Gainst my guy like a little brother to me. And
to see played against Eric Allen. I played against e
A and and in Philly and when he was at
the Raiders because he was chasing me in the m
zone and uh, who else Jared Allen? Jared retired. He
came to Campas City the year I retired, and uh Gates,
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that was it? Now? Who else? Oh? Yeah, obviously played
against my brother twice, but oh oh, Joey, it was.
It was unbelievable they're doing so much. They're they're building
it up now, they're they're trying to do more for
the players that are in the Hall of Fame. But
it's a it's an unbelievable it's an unbelievable experience. And
uh who.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
That's last. I don't know what I did to deserve
all this, what you've done for my family, but I
appreciate the biggest news of the day, Oh show, the
Browns have released their depth card. Doe Flacco, I told
you qub one, Kenny Pickett two, Dylan Gabriel three, Shador
Sanders five excuse me four, But they did bring in
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because two of the four quarterbacks are injured hamstring, Kenny
Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. And a few hours ago, this
is what Adam Shefter tweeted. The Browns are signing Tyler
Snoop Huntley, who spent part of last season with Cleveland.
With Kenny Pickett, Dylan, Dylan Gabriel nursing hamstring injuries, and
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Shador Sanders having her sore shoulder, the Browns need another
arm enter Huntley, Yes, talk to me.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't know what they're doing. We don't know what
they've done the last thirty five.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Do they know? Are we sure they know what they're doing?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Have they known what they're doing since that franchise has
been established?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Have they figured it out yet?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Because the last good quarterback, no disrespect to the quarterbacks
that have played for the Cleveland Brown, the last one
that has been of decency has been Bernie Coozar.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, there you go, There you go.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's no disrespect to any of the quarterbacks that have
played there. But it is what it is. We talk
about consistency.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Have we had one for a decade that we've been
able to leave on build around?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
You had a couple of years, you got a couple
of years of Baker, But outside of that, no.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
No disrespect. Come on, man, Come on man.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So how do we how do we have that's the
problem that you have.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
The trust organization when it comes to choosing quarterbacks at
the position, when they haven't figured it out all these years,
all of a sudden, now they got all the motherfucker
excuse me, now they got all the sense they're supposed
to have, all the sense. Now it's the depth chart
to me. I'm I'm gonna let you go. The depth
chart to me, doesn't mean anything. We know Jack Joe
Flackham would do when the lights come on. Kenny Pikett
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had this opportunity when he would drafted to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
So we've seen the simple side that already. I mean
no disrespect to him. He's not the answer.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Dylan Gabriel has success at the organ when the lights
come on. But it's a different ball game in the
NFL with the grown men that got mouths to feed.
Everyone should get an ample chance to win their starting position.
We already know who quarterback one is gonna be. We
know who that gonna be. The depth chart doesn't mean anything.
What they trying to do is they trying to break
young bull. They're trying to break him. Oh that's all
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it is. From the draft process. They're getting drafted in
the fifth round to the owner coming out and saying
what he said last week to now, man, come on
with that bull, yard Man.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I don't see how I can't pick it still remains
number two. He hadn't practiced since the twenty sixth of July,
if I'm not mistaken, So he's been dealing with a
hamstring injury. But when you go out and sign somebody
in free agency. I mean, I guess that does tell
you they do think highly of him, because they signed him,
Dalan Gabriel. He's get dealing with a hamstring. I guess
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the worst thing that happened is that we could have
found out because had both of those guys been injured,
we head into the first preseason game and only Flacco
and Shador is healthy. Now it remains to see to
be seen how much Joe Flacco is going to play.
If he plays, I'm thinking maybe a series. Oh Shoe,
that's top. Let's be generous and say a series. Now
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that was gonna be Shaudur opportunity to basically take us home.
We saw Trey Lance. Trey Lance started the game and
played what deep into the fourth quarter. Hell, he might
have finished the game. With that being said, the worst
thing that could possibly happen happened for the Browns is
that the two quarterbacks that your probably is counting on,
they both got hurt, definitely, and they got hurt early.
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Now we'll see how soon it remains to be seen.
I think I said last night, they played Thursday, they
play Thursday, Friday?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Is it friday?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Okay? They played Friday. They played Friday against I'm excited.
Is your door gonna play?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yes, he doesn't have a choice.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
This is but if it showed it? But but but
what if he had I mean, I mean clearly they
don't feel that confident because they thought she was gonna
be able to go. Would they have brought a fifth quarterback?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, they had to bring it.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
They had to bring somebody else in because Kenny Picktt
is probably not gonna play, especially with the Hampson injury.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
The game is I don't think either one. I don't
think two and three.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
So definitely definitely gonna play it. Listen, listen the iron.
This guy doesn't lie in the nissa do or to
put what he can on tape.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
They needed.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
What are we going to get? What did we draft
all of put in?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Obviously going against offensive defense and practice that don't mean nothing.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well you don't expect to get, Oh Joe, how long
you expect the five hundred dollars called a lass? Think
about where they drafted him. Now, now clearly they ain't
put a whole lot of resources behind it. No, so
they're not. Let's let's let you know what, O Joe,
you know what we do your nightcap.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
We talk to me now.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Chat. You know, when you go by what we used
to call what I was growing up, we call it
second hand. When you go buy something secondhand and you
spend five hundred dollars or you spend one thousand dollars
and as is no warranty, you're not expecting me. Okay,
hopefully they get me from point A to point B.
They drafted Shador in the fifth round. They're not expecting
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much of Shador. They didn't because if they thought that
much of him, they had drafted him higher. If they
thought that much of him, they would have given him
a fair opportunity. But that's not what they've done. And
I'm not Look, that's their organization. They run it how
they see fit. But I don't know in people in Cleveland,
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I don't know how you would still have trust in
this organization considering how many quarterbacks in every quarterback they say, oh,
he's franchised, he's franchised. You said that with Derek Anderson,
and you said that after before him, and you said
that after him Baker got injured and you moved on
from him. Now Baker didn't have the weapons that he
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has in Tampa. I don't think Baker's like, oh my god,
I ain't gonna wish I could have stayed in Cleveland.
The weather's a lot lighter than Tampa, and there's no
state income tax, and he had a great support system
around him. With all that being said, I don't think.
I don't think it's muschy like boy. Maybe they bet
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against him. Who listen, it happens all the time. I
gonna want you if if you do it, how does
that make me look if your doer looks well?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Oh yo, henna excuse me.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
The adversity and the obstacles that young bulls had to
endure in general, he's been he's been pre been prepped
for this. He's been prepped for this. Oh there against
me since he got drafted. When he dropped in the
fifth round, he already knew what time it was. When
your opportunity gets there, When you get your opportunity, you
have no choice.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
But the shine, you have no choice.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
They're betting against him not to do well.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Right, But if you want me to win the race,
oh Joe, you got to put me on a fair
bread like everybody else. You can't give me a clients
down and say go win this race. Is he at
let me ask you this, when he is in the game,
is he gonna get the first team offensive lineup? Because
that's what when they want to get when they want
to give you a serious look, Ojoe, you and I
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both played this game for a long period of time.
When they want to give god, when they want to
give a receiver a serious look, that let him run
with the ones. They don't contentously see what he can
do with the twos and threes. They give him a
fair opportunity with the ones. The number one quarterback, the
number one offensive right line, and the other one receivers
on the opposite side of him. Quarterbacks, when they are
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running backs, when they really want to see what you
can do, they let you run with the one the
number one O line, And normally when they pull the
offensive line out, guess who else coming out? Quarterback? Because
the quarterback, the starting quarterback is not gonna be in
there with the twos and threes. The starting running back
is not gonna be in there with the twos and threes.
So I'm gonna be very interesting to see. It is
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the first preseason game, and given the way the preseason
is done now, starters don't normally play. They don't normally play,
and they don't play much. So Shador is gonna have
to make Shaudor is gonna have to make wine with
the water that he the whale water that he's been giving. Right,
he's not been given purified water, he's not been given
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bottle water. So he's gonna have to make do it.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
What he's has a good thing though, the cars that
he's dealt on Friday night, when he ends that game,
regardless of what's surrounding him, he's going to make something
happen when he does make something happen, when he's able
to make something out of nothing. And this is no
disrespect to the twos and the threes and the fours
that are trying to make that team.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Everybody out there buying for a job.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
For sure, but they're only about five jobs up the ramp.
They know, they know it. They know within forty guys,
forty one guys, who's gonna build on that rock.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Oh listen, they don't know. They don't know yet because
what they're planning on, what they're trying to do, whatever
it may be, when he gets his opportunity, all they
got to do is not to go down. I don't
care what you put around me. I'm finn shure you.
I'm finna get the job done. So imagine if I can,
If I can get out there and cut up on
Friday with threes and four then tools at my helm.
What you think gonna happen when I got the ones?
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Which is thing gonna happen when they got when they
got juwey huh in Djoku and the rest of boys
at my disposal as my weaponry. If I can do
this with my threes and fours and twos out here
in a preseason game, all he's done all this life
is when huh, that's all he's done. So now you
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put me in this in this situation, a little obstacle adversity.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
All right, I got this. I've been here before, I
got this.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, I agree with Jo Joe. I mean he's never
had a situation like this. You don't know what you
can overcome until your face with it.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Got talking man with my pen. Oh that's a good one.
Let me write that because strength is fast. Now I
gotta write that down' gonna put that in.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
My note because though your hair is the thing, See,
strength is not what you possess. Strength is overcoming something
that you didn't think you could see. A lot of
people think it is where I can lift this or
I can do that. Is not strength. Strength is overcoming
something you didn't think you could. He's never been in
this situation before. He's been the best, and now he's
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gonna have to that strength that his father has instilled him.
His father is very biblical. His father is very into
the church, is into the word. All those words that
his father has been preaching to him for a lifetime.
It will be put to the test. Say like when
the devil told you, yes, of course God, he's gonna
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serve you. You give him everything. Look at the family,
look at the livestock that you have, Look at what
you blessed him with. Why would he not serve you?
Remove the hedge and your curse. His very biker and
should door has had abundance of everything. He had a
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dad that had resources to get him that opportunity to
go learn and study under Tom Brady, to get him
throwing coaches, and to put him in the best situations.
Now you can recall, you can call on that, to
recall what Tom said this, and this guy said that,
and do this, do that. But at the end of
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the day, when you fall on your knees now, because see,
that's what faith is. It's believing even though you can't
see it. You see, Man says, show me and I'll
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trust you. God says, trust me and I'll show you.
You see the difference.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Between yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Your door is gonna have to rely on his faith
because at this time that's all he has. And I'm
not so sure that he's not the only one that
has it because I'm not so sure the people in
that building have faith in him.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
You can't listen the people in the building. You ain't
got to worry about that. You don't have to worry
about that. At the end of the day. If they
don't want you, if they don't want you, let me,
let me put on film, let me. Yes, you got
what you got to do at the end of the day,
regards to what they do, regards to wearing him on
the depth chart, I have a job to do and
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I'm going to do it to the best of my ability.
Regards to what you put out there on the field
with me on Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
At the end of the day, it's still football.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
We've been all been playing football since Kreama.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Now you just took the word right out of my mouth.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I've been in your door. See, I wish your doing
Sander's before you do sand It's just that a different position.
I know what it's like. I went to a team
that just went to the Super Bowl. Although they got drubbed,
they brought every receiver back, Mark Jackson, Vance Johnson taking
to tell Michael Young, they're only keeping five receivers and
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far the guys that went to the Super Bowl or back.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Back, you're gonna be out.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
So we got they bring in four or five other receivers.
Shannon Sharm's the seventh and the seventh rounder. I know that.
But I'm a I'm supposed to be a camp body.
But what you expect out of me and what I
expect out of me are two different things. I don't
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let you set my gym. I don't let you set
my expectation. I see it. That's and that's how your
door has to think. I know what y'all, I know
what you're playing. I know. Hey, in life, when when
Ray told Claud he said, hey, I know you're thanking something.
You got something up your sleeve. I know you got
something brew it. I ain't got nothing, Race, I got
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an ass cutting for your brewing. Your door just needs
to be should do it. He doesn't have to be
any he doesn't have to be anything else other than that.
And and that's good enough. His best is good enough.
He doesn't have to be extraordinary. This is now the NFL.
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It is the league. You remember that movie, The League
of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There are a lot of extraordinary gentlemen
in my league, a lot of them. But that ain't
what he has to be down.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
And that's that's no disrespected him. Let's just let's be realistic.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
They take it how they want to. I'm just saying,
Joe flaccover the year eighteen and he's way past his prime.
Kenny Pickett A, we'll see. He's hurt. Can't make the
club in the tub. Dylan Gabriel, he's hurt.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I'm telling you what.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Say one thing about it, one thing. One thing about
the football gods.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Year me.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
One thing about the football gods when they know, when
they know, especially, it's funny business going on the way
they moving.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Cream Ord's rass at the top.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
I don't care what you put around me. I'm gonna
make it work.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I'm gonna make it to do to listen when you go,
when you go to the casino, and they did them
goddamn cards.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
You can't control what you deal.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Had got to play the hand you depth. You got
to play it to the best of your ability.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's it. That's all they got to do. Go out
there with just straight, straight confidence. This is my team.
You got to walk it. You got to play like it.
You got to walk in that stadium like you own it.
You got the walk. You got to Oh, I see
the game, y'all playing?
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Bet let me show you.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah. And it's not easy because I don't want people
to think that, oh he you never Yes, yes, there were,
there were. There were nice that I would go to bed,
and I'm asking myself, am I good enough? Man? I
only got three plays and I ain't catch your pants?
So if I'm a receiver, how am I getting judged? Yeah?
(54:01):
By everything else to do as a quarterback. He don't
get no reps. How's he getting judged? Okay? I caught
one point. I called it. I called it, and it's like, man,
is it? Man? I had this great careers at Glenville.
I had a great career Savannah State, and now I'm here.
(54:22):
In my mind, I'm thinking, what person doesn't think that
he's better than some of the people that he's going again,
it wasn't like I was. I wasn't going against him,
a Hall of Fame receiver. It wasn't Jerry I wasn't.
It wasn't Jared Rice and my brother Chris Carter and
all those guys out there. That was how I was
gonna have to try to win time from. But I look,
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it gave me confidence that John Elway told me I
could play in this league. He thought I had the
ability to play. It helped me a lot with Mark
Jackson would tell would legitimately tell me what I needed
to do. But yeah, there was I'm fighting for a job.
If we fighting for a job and a guy told
me the wrong route, I didn't know it was the
(55:07):
wrong route. I went in there and read it, Dan
read chewting my ass for a speed though, Hey, ask me,
what the hell I'm running the route? What hey, oh,
Joe I swollen. I just knew I read it right, right, Hey,
nice MoU a nice slap arm up rip that tried
(55:27):
to yo, I hit it right quick, because you know
back then and you spend too much time dancing a
lot of screamings, they're gonna come up through your face masks.
So ay playing chop, I'm over. He blowed it with
something like, damn, I ain't even halfway through my route.
Don't yoe what he bloody rest fump. Let me get
this rock, we do something on it, shouting shark, what
(55:48):
the hell are you doing? You know me? Oh smart?
I'm thinking myself, what the hell it looks like? I
do it? Running down route? What you got on such
a second? I think I thought I got What can
I say? Somebody told me the wrong route. You're supposed
to know it the hell you're supposed to do anyway?
Speaker 2 (56:09):
That's he that's a lark, that's a crow.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I'm trying to get a job, and in fact, if
I can remove you out of the way to make
my opportunity to get this job easier, guess what I'm
going to do. I am going to remove you called
removing the competition. We know it. We hear all about
the drug. What they try to do, take over somebody's territory.
(56:35):
You try to expand the territory doesn't matter how I
just need to expand. I need to make sure. So
he's trying to remove me, I run the wrong rockey,
Hey let me, Hey, never ask again. But you know
what and Mayor Porter used to say, God don't like ugly,
sometimes you don't like pretty. Guess who will the first
(56:59):
who to get cut?
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Mm hmm, but he told you the wrong rope?
Speaker 1 (57:04):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Hey, listen, one thing about it. Boy. You can't deny greatness,
but you can't not greatness.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
You know, remember what it was meant for me to
go there?
Speaker 3 (57:17):
Remember when we got when we got when when shdor
got drafted. I said, it's a blessing in disguise because
they've they've always been they've always had an issue at
finding the answer at that position now.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Which they try to play with him. I said, was
that watch they try to play.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
With him and he ends up being the answer that
they didn't even know they had.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Watch. I guarantee you. And if I'm wrong, I put
my foot in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
If I'm what I think, if he might be the answer,
oh Joe, And that was not even a test that
they gave it did That's the problem that they're up against.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Wait a minute, man, we bring that back one more time.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's it. You said he's to be the answer. Yes
he might. He could well be the answer. And that's
not the test that they gave it.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Hey, what you preaching the night back? God?
Speaker 1 (58:12):
What's for you? What's what's for you? What's for you?
It's for you? Can nobody stop it? If it's meant
to be. It's meant to be. And God is God
in good and in bad. And we just got it.
We just we understand that. We accept that. But uh, yeah,
(58:34):
who else? He has a lot going on. Don't think
his mind is not Hey, it's pops. And you know
how close he is with his dad. His dad dealing
with what he's dealing with. But his dad say, hey,
you having that, I got this. You're having that up
there in Cleveland. You let me take care of this
down here in Boulder.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
Hm hm, Hey, make the Browns gready in.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
M B g A.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, yeah, n b n b g A. Make the
Browns great again,
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Liam Cohen, head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguise, says Travis
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Hunter winning offensively and defensive Rookie of the Year, It's
possible Travis is listed as the start on offense and
the backup on defense. To have a chance of winning
both the wards, you need to be playing full time
offensive defense. So what do you think? Like it?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I like it?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I don't defensively, I don't think you win it.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I think defensively, Rookie of the Year is probably gonna
be at Dual Carter.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's gonna be abdual Carter.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm not sure what the workload would look like for
asking gent down there in Las Vegas, but I think
he would probably probably come in second. But watching that
Dual Carter and knowing what he can do defensively, especially
coming off that edge, he's gonna be a menace.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Is to be a man, And you think about it,
he got he got Lawrence, he got them and Ope,
so Piggy choose he got a he got a top
two three defensive tackle. Uh, he got cabon them. Old
that can you know, we know what he can do.
He can rush the pass when he's healthy. So it's
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gonna be hard to slide and and and try to
like double him and take him away. Uh. You know, Normally,
what we've seen is that quarterbacks get a get a
get a premium on winning Rookie the Year because oh Joe,
they got the ball. Joe gonna be throwing. He throw
thirty touchdowns. It's hard to overcome back. Now you have
(01:45):
a situation like Chase. You know, Chase put fourteen hundred
yards up, so it was hard to deny deny him.
You look at who else, like you said, gently running backs,
you get three hundred carriage every four to half five
yards to carry. That's that's fourteen fifty hundred yard right there. No, absolutely,
(02:06):
and then guess what fourteen fifteen hundred yards with twelve
fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I like, I like, I like, I like, I like
the offensive rookie of the year. They gonna get him
that ball. They gonna get him that ball. Listen, Brian
Toman Jr. He's not gonna Brian Toman Jr.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Is going to.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Do exactly what he did last year plus something. But
because Tom jam is so great at what he does
so early, he's gonna be the one to get double.
He's gonna be the one to get double. And that's
when trav is gonna do what he does. He's gonna
be gonna make the plays that he makes. I'm curious
when they when they go Nickel. I wonder if trap
(02:49):
coming on nickel.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh, yeah, for sure. All that the question is either
gonna be outside or either gonna be inside.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think it'd be inside the start off.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
You say so, Yeah, he tall. I think he's I
think he better outside.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Okay, see, I don't, I don't. I don't know the
depth chart for the for the Jaguars, I'm not sure.
I'm sure they probably do have a Nickel, so they might.
I'm not sure how it's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Hey, oh, chore, you know them guys enough slot man,
them jokes stopping on them lab cons. Hey, they running
that ride on you? They running that? Will they running
that that will route?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's different.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You get got like Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Hey, did Keenan Allen just go back to he went
back to the charge. I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, I like I like that move too, I do.
I like that move.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
A familiar with the system, so all they got.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Familiar offense, familiar with at the quarterback. I like it.
I like that move. There's there, it is on your screen.
Do you see it? The depth chart?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Nice, it's not it's not up there.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's not said tell you right now. Let me see.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Let me check that out real quick.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, he's gonna be starting because right now, Jordan Lewis
is the nickelback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You got Tyson Campbell, you got Jerry and Jones.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh, Jordan Lewis is there, okay, okay, yeah from the Cowboys. Yeah,
oh yeah, he definitely oh yeah, he definitely didn't know,
didn't no disrespect Darnelle Savage.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Savage, I think he's from Green Bay, right like Armstead,
Josh Hines, Allen, so ola coon.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They got it. They got a nice lott got a
nice little squad.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
What I am happy to be back to a nice
little squad.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, they're gonna be. They're gonna be all right, Y's.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I see you. I missed you too, buddy. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
When you get special players like that, man, all you
got to do is put them in.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Position man, and it opens up everything else you can do.
You can do more. You have certain type of players
with a special skill set.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That's why I like what the Steelers have this year.
Excuse me on defense.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You know they tailed off towards the end of the
season for for whatever reason, but they have so much
now where they can do more. It opens up the playbook.
Because you have a certain set of players that have
special skill sets, it allows you to do more than
what you could last time, last year for that matter.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting. Like I said, it's
I mean, I just I think that's just asking a
lot of the young man to play at that elite
level and to try to play two positions. He grown
men out here that is different.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Listen, you said he could do it. We're gonna find out.
We're gonna find out real soon.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I have a question as does he play in the
preseason or not.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I think you got to give him. I think
you gotta get let me go.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Okay, okay, get used to that, get it, get used
to that speed of the game because it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's completely different than practice. Titus, what up, Twin?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I guess you can twell. I guess you can tell.
I've been gone for twelve days.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You've been going that long. Hey, Titus, what up Twin?
Come on, come on down to Miami. I take it
to the dog park over in Midtown.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yuh, he said, I'm intact. He said, they'll they throw
us both out. He attacted me. He still got to
see he's still he's still.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's the whole point I give.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's a nice, nice, nice look nice poodles out there,
a little colleagues, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
People sue you man, Stop stop, that's nothing. Get me
all scratched up.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Hey, they about showing for every goddamn thing day Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So it's all right. I'm worry about it. I ain't ship,
I ain't got.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It, I know. Uh, but it's gonna be very interesting
to see. He's starting wide receiver opposite of Brian Thomas Jr.
And then he's back up to uh, Jerry and Jones,
so hey paying him a boatload of money. He says
(07:49):
he can he can do it. Let's see what he can.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Do prove all the doubters wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Mm hmm. The Colorado Buffalo Football have added Travis Hunting
Shaduor Sanders successes to their Legacy Hall Colorado Colorado Buffalo Football.
They tweeted two new legends one historic Hall, Welcome to
Legacy Hall, Travis Hunt and Shador Sanders. Many had issues
(08:19):
with your doer in Travis's jersey being retired by coach
Prime so quickly, o Jo. Did Sanders and Hunters do
enough to be immortalized so quickly? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I would think so.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
There have been some other other great great college players.
I'm not sure if they brother Cordell Stewart. If I'm not,
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
The running back.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Not well, Rajean Salam who's no longer with He won
the Heisman, he wonted. He their first he won the
Heisman they've had. Look, it's one more. I think it's
Supreme Court he's a Supreme Court justice Byron Wizzer White.
I think it was a Supreme Court justice. He was
the first great Colorado player.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Here another running back, running back? I think you were
a number.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Uh they had, they had Eric v Enemy Yeah. Yeah,
the Darien Hagen J J. J. Flanagan came out with me.
But they had some they had really good football players,
I mean defensive players. You know, Chad Brown, they had
Alfred Williams, they had Chris Hudson, Ronnie Brown, and they
I mean they've had some, they've had some, They've had
(09:25):
some some good players. They've had some good players. You know.
Michael Westbrook came Ray Ruth oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Brooke game out of there. He and Cordelle was on
the same team.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I mean, listen, it's it's I mean Prime Prime saw
saw and felt it was it was fitting, you know,
to retire, especially with what they did.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They had two good.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Seasons, they turned that program around. I don't really see
anything wrong with it, especially based off what the team
looked like before they got there.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And there should be nothing to be mad at.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, look, you always gonna have some people, because there
are some people that says, hey, there are some guys
that came before them, and they probably should have. You know,
I don't think the issue is the retirement of the Jerseys.
I think it's the time and how soon they so
like a lot of these say, if it happened twenty
(10:20):
and time was said, hold on, so what Rachelle you
do rash Salam number? But look what it took for
you to do it. You gave him flywers, but he
ain't here to smell them. So I think I could
be wrong. Now I'm speaking as if I said Okay,
that's how I'm thinking. I'm thinking out loud, so you
(10:41):
guys can hear me. It's like, okay, I't got no problem.
You want to retire Travis, you want to try your door?
Can we make it late like twenty years? I'm different. Look,
let me tell you your versus South Carolina retire my
brother's number. He was still playing. So who who am I?
(11:02):
Savannah State? They didn't retire my number. They just didn't
wouldn't give it out. There are a lot of guys
that came in wanted to wear the number two and
and and I remember Mackie who was a trainer, the
head athletic trainer. And Bill David said, I don't think
you guys realized who actually wore that number. Yeah, coach,
you have a sharp one. Ward like MM three time
(11:28):
first team Black College All American, a Kodak All American,
three time Player Player of the Year, Offensive player, of
the year, Georgia State Player of the year. They ain't
a whole lot of black college players can say they
were state player of the year. I beat University of
Georgia players out. I beat Georgia Tech players out. For
that war, Yeah, Bill say, uh, and so Coch Davis
(11:51):
had passed and the uh, the president got in touch
with Bucket. Bucket put me in touch with him, says
he shouldn't nobody. They're talking to everybody that was here
and some of the some of the faculty was still there. Nah,
so they come to bother you, not Jordan's uh. So
(12:14):
honestly with you, I think that has a lot to
do with it. It's not that the numbers got retired.
There's like is that there's like they bypassed the line.
So you know, Alfred Williams, the Chad Brown who was
Buckets Award winners and things like that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Why would whoever was in the position of power, why
didn't they have him retired?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Then, bro, don't start me to line. I don't know.
I don't know that much about Colorado. I mean, I
played in the state and I'm familiar with them, but
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Listen, if they felt that much about them, and they
were great as they were during their time there. Whoever
was in place should have retired them, should have retired
to Jersey if they saw fit. So I'm not sure
why people are complaining Deon Sanders during his time having
your door.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
H I mean, I'm confused. It makes no sense. Tra
Travis Hunter the top selling Jersey when he was playing,
and I'm not somebody in general.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
The coach released their first official depth chart on today
ahead of their Thursday preseason game against the Ravens Quarterbacks.
Election depth chart reads as follows. Daniel Jones or Anthony
Richardson Senior.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oh I like that, I like I like how he
did that, they said, or right, But that thing up
in the air.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Huh that thing is it is up in the air.
It's up. Oh my goodness man.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I'm I'm hoping Anthony Richardson doing everything possible. I hope
he's doing everything right, going the extra mile, watching extra film,
staying at the practice of the receivers, talking to your
officer coordinator, talking to your.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Head coach, to doing everything you can to make sure
you do your best to win that job.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Sorry, what I don't get though, Look, I believe you
could have got the same I believe you could have
got the same results. Bringing the guy in there and
says say, I'm gonna give you an equal opportunity to
compete with this job and pay him five million, oh
as to bro as opposed to bringing Daniel Jones in
there and paying him fourteen million, because you got an
expensive ass backup if you doesn't win.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
The job, that's that's the agent. The agent worked his magic.
The the agent worked his magic. The agent got it,
got in that money.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think it was anywhere else he would have got
No fourteen million to be no backup, No, yeah, and
plus and.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Plus o Joe, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to
compete for a starting job, and a whole lot of
places we're gonna give himn opportunity to compete for a
starting job. So this is I mean, and I get it.
I would have went there also fourteen million and a
legitimate opportunity to compete for a job. Most definitely can't
complain about that. But you're absolutely right, Anthony Richardson. He
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needs to stay healthy. Hopefully he's learned from some of
the mistakes that he's made. Over his first two years,
and and through that process of maturity, and and and
and just understanding what it takes to be a professional quarterback.
Hopefully he's able to turn the corner.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You don't have a choice about to turn the corner.
You know what third You know what a third year means, right, Yeah,
that should make it a breaking here. That's when teams
make a decision.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know what, are you our future or are you not?
Or do we need to keep looking for someone at
that position?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well? Third year. Guess what they normally do with quarterbacks
when they play well, they normally reward them after the
third year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
This is this is this is here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So yeah, look he has a you know, he's he's
saying all the right things. You know, hey, I gotta
you know, I gotta eat a certain way. I gotta
cut the candy out on Joe. I gotta eat like
a professional. I have to do things like a professional.
I have to study. I got to be the first
one in. He's saying all the right things. Now it's
(16:22):
a matter of doing all that lines up. You say this,
you do this, and because they look, you look at
that team offensively, they got they got a good team.
B Joe. They really do. When you look at that
skill position players, you look at their running back. They
got a solid offensive line, they got a nice defensive line.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
They got a good day, They surely do.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, they got some good players. But I just spent
the last couple of year. They've been held back by
the quarterback. There's no other way around it. And we're
not taking those shots, Sat and we're not beating nobody down.
It's it's just just the it's just the facts that
their quarterback play has been insufficient, inadequate, not and when
(17:15):
you got and when you got those you got Jonathan Taylor,
and you got Michael Pittman Jr. Piman Jr. And you
got Peers and you got all those guys, No, Bro
and Downs. What's what's the other?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Uh is it? McMillan, No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
No no. They got Peers ju Uh, Pittman Jr. And
they got another guy.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think you were number ten. If I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Mistaken, I might might might be saying his last name.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, Oh, Ady Mitchell Mitchell, that's what that's about. Millan Mitchell,
Ady Mitchell at.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Downs, Josh Downs. Yeah, they got they got some, they
got some. They got some skill position.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Player, Ady Mitchell gonna be nice by.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah. Defensively, that front seven they're really good. Now the
back end they y'all need to tighten up a little bit,
but they they got a nice front seven. Quarterback play
need to match that when you've accumulated that kind of
talent because guess what, O, Joe uh, you like to think,
(18:20):
And that's what teams do. They try to, Hey, let's
mortgage this thing. We gotta you see what Houston the
Texans are doing. They're like, we got this quarterback on
a Rickey contract because that next contract, it's gonna be
kind of hard to be able to keep all these
pieces around said individual player. Even if he gives you
a discount, he's gonna give you one hundred million dollar discount.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be incumbent
on Anthony Richardson to do better, to play better. We're
gonna look, he got drafted on potential with Joe. That's
what it was. He was basically a fifty percent quarterback
in college. He's a fifty percent quarterback in high school.
He's been a fifty percent quarterback. But the tools that
he presents. I mean, oh Joe, he's sixty five, he's
(19:05):
two forty five, he ran four to four. He could
throw the ball eighty yards, throw the ball fifty yards
on one knee, all that side. But this is not
the Football Olympics.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Put it together.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You need precision, you need touch, you need understanding, you
need the ability to process information, decipher that information, and
then the ball needs to be gone to the right
player in the right position.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't think you're not breaking We're not breaking news
to anybody. You watch the game. You know his play
needs to get better in order for them to be
the type of team that that the Colts want to be.
He's got the Oh Joe, he's got the vastly improved
We ain't talking about no marginal improvement. We're talking about
vastly improved jumps. Yes, huge jump. He's got to and
(20:03):
look and it's gonna be. Look, it's gonna be. The
owner Jim Ersay passed away. His daughters are running the
team now, so you know they're gonna have that. You
know they're gonna be played. I'm sure Shane Steichen, who's
the head coach, is telling them, Hey, we got to
play for something, you know, mister ersay, this season is
dedicated to him and X, Y and Z, and rightfully so.
(20:27):
But mister Richardson's bro, you gotta perform. Yes, they're paying you. Hey,
they took you, they took a chance. And that's the
only thing. Oh Joe, you say you're the man. I
want a sure thing. If things like this that gets
you fired, because the last thing I want to be
(20:49):
doing is taking a quarterback three years ago, and I'm
right back in the draft taking a quarterback again. M hmm.
I supposed to be trying to find I was supposed
to be trying to Yo I buy a house. Oh Joe,
I ain't trying to buy a house in three years.
I'm just added pieces. I made some pool, some pool fool.
(21:10):
Maybe I get an end table something like that. On Joe,
I ain't really a whole new house.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's a that's a good one. That's a good that's
a good analogy.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I like that, and so that's that's that's Anthony Richardson.
He's gotten improved to the point that they just add
pieces around him. You don't want to be repeat the
piece that gets replaced.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
First first, first, first, first, Oh Joe, this weekend. Yeah,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Tell everybody take it time, and I take a time.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Obviously I went through this. I experienced this, uh fourteen
years ago in twenty eleven, and and it was a
great It was unbelievable. I mean it was a great honor.
But this one topped it. Yes, this one topped it
because of the significance of it. What my brother meant
to me and o cho to be in that Nichki
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luncheon on Friday, and here Rod Woodson and here are
Nils Williams, and here Darryl Green and some of the
defensive players be it Richard Dan and Johnny Randall, say, man,
this was long overdue for your brother to hear. To
hear them say that, because they're to I already knew it.
You appreciate to the choir, Yeah, I sing up here
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every Sunday, so you I ain't new to the car
I ain't in the I ain't new to the congregation.
I'm here. I'm backing you up every week. So I
know what he is. I know what he was, and
to to to see him finally get that recognition and
to my mom, you know there'll be other moms that
have sons in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but
they won't be first to have my sister and my
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coach who coach both of us, coach, my entire family,
my kids there, my sister all and my niece uh
Susan in summer there to to to witness that and
to experience that old Joe man.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Look here, and that's a great feeling, boy.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Man, O Joe Man. I can't it's it's hard for
me to describe Ojo. And and I knew I would
be emotional, even though I had already you know, I
was his presenter, and I had already done my part
via video. So I did that a couple of weeks before,
and so I thought. But the more he talked, the
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more he talked, And when he says, I only have
a couple of minutes left, but the last couple of minutes,
I want, I want, I want you, you got to come
up here. Yeah, And when he called and when he
called me to the stage, and I had no idea
what he was gonna say. He you know, he didn't
write anything down. He was the only one that didn't
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have notes. He didn't have anything he said, I'm just
gonna speak from the heart. That's how you know, That's
pretty much how he does all the speaking. And to
hear him say that everything he did was for an
audience of one. He didn't care what you wrote about him.
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He didn't care what you said about him. None of
that mattered because the only person that he wanted to
impress was me. Everything that he did was because of me.
And to hear him says, you know, you know, you
can't leave without without without following. And to hear him
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because it's almost like I'm like, it's replaying the very
the very words, and how I felt about him, how
I feel about him, and to hear him say that,
and to know the relationship that he and I have,
and I think people got an opportunity to see that
on full display, even on Friday night at the Gold
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Jacket presentation. When you know, you walk the gauntlet, you
go through all the Hall of Famers, and we had
almost a record, so we had one hundred and eleven
members back now, mind you, of three hundred and eighty two,
my brother is the three hundred and eighty second member
of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And if I'm
not mistaken. I think there are one hundred and eighty
one living members, so that means they're over. They're two hundred,
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two hundred and one that are no longer with us.
Talking to Bobby Bell this morning getting on the plane,
he's one fifteen. There's only six with a lord number
than him that's still remaining. So and then, you know,
you know, seeing all that, but to be there and
to experience it, oh joy. My brother's really not an
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emotional guy. Like I said, I think I've only a
handful of times. And like you said, when Papa died,
he didn't cry. When when Daddy died, he didn't cry.
When Granny passed, he didn't cry. But to be in
his presence and to know what this moment meant to him, right,
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my brother don't let a whole lot of things bothering
and and and and, but to be around him, Joe,
because I know him better than anybody. I know him
better than anybody. I know what this moment meant to him.
I know what he felt. My supposed to say. Hell,
I thought he was gonna pick you up off the
floor at the gold Jacket ceremony, I said, yeah, and
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throw his back out in the process. But Ocho man
to see to see how he was walking around and
to see the love and the kudos that he was
getting from those other Gold Jacket wears and the members
and at his party, and to have the bust and
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to have his family. Because we don't get we don't
like I said, oh, Joe, we don't get together much.
And and I said, bro, we got to do a
better job of that. I say, look, when you really
cut it down to I said, us is me, you, Mama,
and Libby, my kids and you know Susan. And someone
said we got to do a better job. Bro, we
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got to do a better job. I said, you know,
theoretically mom could not still outlive us along, but come on,
we can do a better job than what we've been doing.
But oo, that was that was the crown achievement. That
ain't nothing topping that. Ain't nothing topping that, old yo,
Because there there, there's there's If you play a sport,
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to go into your sports heaven, and that's what the
Hall of Fame is, be it baseball, basketball, soccer, tennis, swimming,
rock and roll hall of fame. If you go into
your professions heaven, that's what the Hall of Fame is
you when you get there? Okay, now that's it. That's it.
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And man, I cried. I've been up all night. The
the love and the respect that was shown to my brother. Man.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Oh choke, yeah, I already listened you boy, I already know.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I already Jordan up poasting so much stuff. I'm like
with damn, I'm looking at my feet and I'm like,
dam did you go to sleep in the middle of
the because every time collab, collad post post posed, like.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
With damn, thinking up. Listen, somebody sent me something. They
didn't have your information, you said, photo gallery.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I sent you.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Uh you should sent me something.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Man, No, this was a few days ago, remember.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Somebody didn't have Yeah, they ain't have your information.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Shoot, they sent me the whole photo gallery.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh man, it's it's that moment, bro, and you know,
riding in the parade and everybody because it was the packers.
The packers have really well and to see some of
his teammates because I don't know if you noticed O
Joe when he sat down with me. I didn't know
this at the time. I didn't I didn't know he
never shared this then. So what he said on the
pod was the first time that when he had his
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next surgery, no one called him. Not a teammate, not
a coach, not a front office. We call hell getting
him to accept them doing this party, I said, because
what I told him, I said, now you have to
understand the people that's.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
In place now were in place.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Then, I said, Now, I'm not saying that your anger
isn't warranted. I said, but in this situation, it's misplaced.
The people that you should be upset with, they.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Weren't there long gone.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They were there. And I didn't know, like I said, Oo,
I didn't that I did. Oh Joe the man, there's
a chance that he could have been paralyzed, Yes, sir,
from neck down. He could have been a quadriplet. Now,
mind you, his last season he still has tied for
the third most receiving touchdowns in a single season, and
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he never played another season. So he goes under the
knife and not no, not just imagine, oh Joe, you
go through a surgery that you could be paralyzed or worse.
The owner, a coach, a teammate, not even TJ not Carson,
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not the general manager, not your head coach, not even you, Jack.
No one calls you and checks on you.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Shit boy, Listen, that is that that tells you all
you need to all you need to know, though you
hear me, So think about the people you just named,
Think about the people you just name.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Nothing is even wrong with me and everybody you just name,
I've talked to at least three three times a month.
I am of no value to Marvin Lewis r R.
I'm of no value to Hugh Jackson anymore. Hell, TJ,
me and TJ we in the group chat with about
twenty bangals. So that's a constant, a constant, uh you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Know, form of communication. But that that would hurt so bad.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It did bothered the.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
People that I went to war within, the people that
I'm playing for not giving me a call with the
extent of my injury, with a chance I could be
paralyzed and I can't play ball the more. And nobody
reached out, not a flower, not a motherfucking card.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
My damn, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So I think that that that bothered him the most. Yeah,
and uh, he still I was like, bro, you know,
and and he's finally like, like letting it go because
my brother, you know he you know, he he's he
don't hit you over the head with it. But Carre's
this Bible. He goes to church, he reads the scripture.
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So he's and so he's learned, Oh Joe, that I've
got to let this go. He says, I can't be
what I'm proclaiming to be if I still have this
in my heart. And so, but it was it was
tough for him. I'm number I remember to sixty seven.
He's remember three eighty two. I think they said, over
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thirty thousand men have played this game, coached this game,
on the team, been a general manager. Thirty thousand, three
hundred and eighty two men have a gold jacket. They said,
over three hundred, three hundred million men have played the
game of football. They just say again on Joe, three
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hundred million. So my mom my, Mom's like, I got
two boys talking about I probably need to scan. I
might have another son out there somewhere. I say, you don't,
you don't. You ain't got another son, You ain't got
another daughter. I promise you, this is all. This is
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all you got is out. You got what you got
daddy A you told daddy shop was closed after me.
You say, hey, when they ask you, they say, Papa
asked her. Say, well, Alice, what you want daddy. I
don't give a damage. It's a lizard. I'm done. So
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you got what you got, Mama. That's it. But she
was happy with my farm. My coach, Coach Hall, like
I said, you know, he was there, coached all my uncles.
My uncle started started started graduating high school in nineteen
sixty six. Nineteen sixty six, I graduated eighty six. He
talked for fifty years and having him there, but oh, Joe,
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I don't know if you saw this, I know you
couldn't pick it up. But at the gold jacket ceremony,
what they did they started doing. I don't know when
they started it. This is my first time back since
twenty nineteen. Is that obviously you walk the gauntlet, you know,
so you have four guys to walk this way, two
guys walk that way, and you got all the Hall
of Fames and they give it a congratulations, welcome to
the paturnity, welcome to the brotherhood. Then you get up
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on stage and then I was really the only presenter
that was actually there, Dean Spanos who presented No his dad.
His dad was yeah, his dad was there. I think
his dad was there. Jared Allen's dad was there. Put
the code on him, Marcus put the code on Eric Allen,
and then Lt. Ladanie and Thomas and put it on
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Gates Antonio Gates. But anyway, and so you know, they
come up, they bring your family out, they bring let
your kid, your wife come up, your kids come up,
your mom block X, Y and Z so Jared Allen. Yeah, family,
Jared Allen families comes up there and everybody. He's excited,
you know, his wife is excited. The girls come running
to him. I think one of the one of his
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daughters had on cowboy boots, so the cowboy. But anyway,
you know we got a signature sie that you move,
oh Joe, you know what they do. He calf rope.
He go down on one knee. Ghet the tied up
and who wa uh he go down on one knee,
calf rope that thing. Yeah, they his pants so where
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I am I can see. I think he ripped his
pants from the back of the knee all the way
up to the top of his belt.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Real.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, So now they got to rush over again. They
got to rush over because the hotel is really close
by where they're staying. They got to rush over, get
a police he's court, and get him a pair of pants,
because you.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Know, that's funny, that's funny. Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
There there's a clip out there and I know we
didn't a chance to vet it and uh we don't
know who it belongs to, but there's a clip out there,
and you can see him. He grabbed the back and
he grabs. At first I thought he had tweets. I said, damn,
you tweet your hamstring. You don't do no, you know.
But then as he started to move, I was like, nah, bro,
you ripped, you ripped him, and he really did. But
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it was great this, Like I said, I know, Gates
Gainst my guy like a little brother to me. And
to see played against Eric Allen. I played against e
A and and in Philly and when he was at
the Raiders because he was chasing me in the m
zone and uh, who else Jared Allen? Jared retired. He
came to Campas City the year I retired, and uh Gates,
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that was it? Now? Who else? Oh? Yeah, obviously played
against my brother twice, but oh oh, Joey, it was.
It was unbelievable they're doing so much. They're they're building
it up now, they're they're trying to do more for
the players that are in the Hall of Fame. But
it's a it's an unbelievable it's an unbelievable experience. And
uh who.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
That's last. I don't know what I did to deserve
all this, what you've done for my family, but I
appreciate the biggest news of the day, Oh show, the
Browns have released their depth card. Doe Flacco, I told
you qub one, Kenny Pickett two, Dylan Gabriel three, Shador
Sanders five excuse me four, But they did bring in
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because two of the four quarterbacks are injured hamstring, Kenny
Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. And a few hours ago, this
is what Adam Shefter tweeted. The Browns are signing Tyler
Snoop Huntley, who spent part of last season with Cleveland.
With Kenny Pickett, Dylan, Dylan Gabriel nursing hamstring injuries, and
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Shador Sanders having her sore shoulder, the Browns need another
arm enter Huntley, Yes, talk to me.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't know what they're doing. We don't know what
they've done the last thirty five.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Do they know? Are we sure they know what they're doing?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Have they known what they're doing since that franchise has
been established?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Have they figured it out yet?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Because the last good quarterback, no disrespect to the quarterbacks
that have played for the Cleveland Brown, the last one
that has been of decency has been Bernie Coozar.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, there you go, There you go.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's no disrespect to any of the quarterbacks that have
played there. But it is what it is. We talk
about consistency.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Have we had one for a decade that we've been
able to leave on build around?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
You had a couple of years, you got a couple
of years of Baker, But outside of that, no.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
No disrespect. Come on, man, Come on man.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So how do we how do we have that's the
problem that you have.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
The trust organization when it comes to choosing quarterbacks at
the position, when they haven't figured it out all these years,
all of a sudden, now they got all the motherfucker
excuse me, now they got all the sense they're supposed
to have, all the sense. Now it's the depth chart
to me. I'm I'm gonna let you go. The depth
chart to me, doesn't mean anything. We know Jack Joe
Flackham would do when the lights come on. Kenny Pikett
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had this opportunity when he would drafted to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
So we've seen the simple side that already. I mean
no disrespect to him. He's not the answer.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Dylan Gabriel has success at the organ when the lights
come on. But it's a different ball game in the
NFL with the grown men that got mouths to feed.
Everyone should get an ample chance to win their starting position.
We already know who quarterback one is gonna be. We
know who that gonna be. The depth chart doesn't mean anything.
What they trying to do is they trying to break
young bull. They're trying to break him. Oh that's all
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it is. From the draft process. They're getting drafted in
the fifth round to the owner coming out and saying
what he said last week to now, man, come on
with that bull, yard Man.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I don't see how I can't pick it still remains
number two. He hadn't practiced since the twenty sixth of July,
if I'm not mistaken, So he's been dealing with a
hamstring injury. But when you go out and sign somebody
in free agency. I mean, I guess that does tell
you they do think highly of him, because they signed him,
Dalan Gabriel. He's get dealing with a hamstring. I guess
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the worst thing that happened is that we could have
found out because had both of those guys been injured,
we head into the first preseason game and only Flacco
and Shador is healthy. Now it remains to see to
be seen how much Joe Flacco is going to play.
If he plays, I'm thinking maybe a series. Oh Shoe,
that's top. Let's be generous and say a series. Now
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that was gonna be Shaudur opportunity to basically take us home.
We saw Trey Lance. Trey Lance started the game and
played what deep into the fourth quarter. Hell, he might
have finished the game. With that being said, the worst
thing that could possibly happen happened for the Browns is
that the two quarterbacks that your probably is counting on,
they both got hurt, definitely, and they got hurt early.
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Now we'll see how soon it remains to be seen.
I think I said last night, they played Thursday, they
play Thursday, Friday?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Is it friday?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Okay? They played Friday. They played Friday against I'm excited.
Is your door gonna play?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yes, he doesn't have a choice.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
This is but if it showed it? But but but
what if he had I mean, I mean clearly they
don't feel that confident because they thought she was gonna
be able to go. Would they have brought a fifth quarterback?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, they had to bring it.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
They had to bring somebody else in because Kenny Picktt
is probably not gonna play, especially with the Hampson injury.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
The game is I don't think either one. I don't
think two and three.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
So definitely definitely gonna play it. Listen, listen the iron.
This guy doesn't lie in the nissa do or to
put what he can on tape.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
They needed.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
What are we going to get? What did we draft
all of put in?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Obviously going against offensive defense and practice that don't mean nothing.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well you don't expect to get, Oh Joe, how long
you expect the five hundred dollars called a lass? Think
about where they drafted him. Now, now clearly they ain't
put a whole lot of resources behind it. No, so
they're not. Let's let's let you know what, O Joe,
you know what we do your nightcap.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
We talk to me now.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Chat. You know, when you go by what we used
to call what I was growing up, we call it
second hand. When you go buy something secondhand and you
spend five hundred dollars or you spend one thousand dollars
and as is no warranty, you're not expecting me. Okay,
hopefully they get me from point A to point B.
They drafted Shador in the fifth round. They're not expecting
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much of Shador. They didn't because if they thought that
much of him, they had drafted him higher. If they
thought that much of him, they would have given him
a fair opportunity. But that's not what they've done. And
I'm not Look, that's their organization. They run it how
they see fit. But I don't know in people in Cleveland,
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I don't know how you would still have trust in
this organization considering how many quarterbacks in every quarterback they say, oh,
he's franchised, he's franchised. You said that with Derek Anderson,
and you said that after before him, and you said
that after him Baker got injured and you moved on
from him. Now Baker didn't have the weapons that he
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has in Tampa. I don't think Baker's like, oh my god,
I ain't gonna wish I could have stayed in Cleveland.
The weather's a lot lighter than Tampa, and there's no
state income tax, and he had a great support system
around him. With all that being said, I don't think.
I don't think it's muschy like boy. Maybe they bet
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against him. Who listen, it happens all the time. I
gonna want you if if you do it, how does
that make me look if your doer looks well?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Oh yo, henna excuse me.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
The adversity and the obstacles that young bulls had to
endure in general, he's been he's been pre been prepped
for this. He's been prepped for this. Oh there against
me since he got drafted. When he dropped in the
fifth round, he already knew what time it was. When
your opportunity gets there, When you get your opportunity, you
have no choice.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
But the shine, you have no choice.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
They're betting against him not to do well.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Right, But if you want me to win the race,
oh Joe, you got to put me on a fair
bread like everybody else. You can't give me a clients
down and say go win this race. Is he at
let me ask you this, when he is in the game,
is he gonna get the first team offensive lineup? Because
that's what when they want to get when they want
to give you a serious look, Ojoe, you and I
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both played this game for a long period of time.
When they want to give god, when they want to
give a receiver a serious look, that let him run
with the ones. They don't contentously see what he can
do with the twos and threes. They give him a
fair opportunity with the ones. The number one quarterback, the
number one offensive right line, and the other one receivers
on the opposite side of him. Quarterbacks, when they are
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running backs, when they really want to see what you
can do, they let you run with the one the
number one O line, And normally when they pull the
offensive line out, guess who else coming out? Quarterback? Because
the quarterback, the starting quarterback is not gonna be in
there with the twos and threes. The starting running back
is not gonna be in there with the twos and threes.
So I'm gonna be very interesting to see. It is
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the first preseason game, and given the way the preseason
is done now, starters don't normally play. They don't normally play,
and they don't play much. So Shador is gonna have
to make Shaudor is gonna have to make wine with
the water that he the whale water that he's been giving. Right,
he's not been given purified water, he's not been given
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bottle water. So he's gonna have to make do it.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
What he's has a good thing though, the cars that
he's dealt on Friday night, when he ends that game,
regardless of what's surrounding him, he's going to make something
happen when he does make something happen, when he's able
to make something out of nothing. And this is no
disrespect to the twos and the threes and the fours
that are trying to make that team.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Everybody out there buying for a job.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
For sure, but they're only about five jobs up the ramp.
They know, they know it. They know within forty guys,
forty one guys, who's gonna build on that rock.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Oh listen, they don't know. They don't know yet because
what they're planning on, what they're trying to do, whatever
it may be, when he gets his opportunity, all they
got to do is not to go down. I don't
care what you put around me. I'm finn shure you.
I'm finna get the job done. So imagine if I can,
If I can get out there and cut up on
Friday with threes and four then tools at my helm.
What you think gonna happen when I got the ones?
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Which is thing gonna happen when they got when they
got juwey huh in Djoku and the rest of boys
at my disposal as my weaponry. If I can do
this with my threes and fours and twos out here
in a preseason game, all he's done all this life
is when huh, that's all he's done. So now you
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put me in this in this situation, a little obstacle adversity.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
All right, I got this. I've been here before, I
got this.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, I agree with Jo Joe. I mean he's never
had a situation like this. You don't know what you
can overcome until your face with it.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Got talking man with my pen. Oh that's a good one.
Let me write that because strength is fast. Now I
gotta write that down' gonna put that in.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
My note because though your hair is the thing, See,
strength is not what you possess. Strength is overcoming something
that you didn't think you could see. A lot of
people think it is where I can lift this or
I can do that. Is not strength. Strength is overcoming
something you didn't think you could. He's never been in
this situation before. He's been the best, and now he's
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gonna have to that strength that his father has instilled him.
His father is very biblical. His father is very into
the church, is into the word. All those words that
his father has been preaching to him for a lifetime.
It will be put to the test. Say like when
the devil told you, yes, of course God, he's gonna
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serve you. You give him everything. Look at the family,
look at the livestock that you have, Look at what
you blessed him with. Why would he not serve you?
Remove the hedge and your curse. His very biker and
should door has had abundance of everything. He had a
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dad that had resources to get him that opportunity to
go learn and study under Tom Brady, to get him
throwing coaches, and to put him in the best situations.
Now you can recall, you can call on that, to
recall what Tom said this, and this guy said that,
and do this, do that. But at the end of
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the day, when you fall on your knees now, because see,
that's what faith is. It's believing even though you can't
see it. You see, Man says, show me and I'll
(49:41):
trust you. God says, trust me and I'll show you.
You see the difference.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Between yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Your door is gonna have to rely on his faith
because at this time that's all he has. And I'm
not so sure that he's not the only one that
has it because I'm not so sure the people in
that building have faith in him.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
You can't listen the people in the building. You ain't
got to worry about that. You don't have to worry
about that. At the end of the day. If they
don't want you, if they don't want you, let me,
let me put on film, let me. Yes, you got
what you got to do at the end of the day,
regards to what they do, regards to wearing him on
the depth chart, I have a job to do and
(50:27):
I'm going to do it to the best of my ability.
Regards to what you put out there on the field
with me on Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
At the end of the day, it's still football.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
We've been all been playing football since Kreama.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Now you just took the word right out of my mouth.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I've been in your door. See, I wish your doing
Sander's before you do sand It's just that a different position.
I know what it's like. I went to a team
that just went to the Super Bowl. Although they got drubbed,
they brought every receiver back, Mark Jackson, Vance Johnson taking
to tell Michael Young, they're only keeping five receivers and
(51:04):
far the guys that went to the Super Bowl or back.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Back, you're gonna be out.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
So we got they bring in four or five other receivers.
Shannon Sharm's the seventh and the seventh rounder. I know that.
But I'm a I'm supposed to be a camp body.
But what you expect out of me and what I
expect out of me are two different things. I don't
(51:32):
let you set my gym. I don't let you set
my expectation. I see it. That's and that's how your
door has to think. I know what y'all, I know
what you're playing. I know. Hey, in life, when when
Ray told Claud he said, hey, I know you're thanking something.
You got something up your sleeve. I know you got
something brew it. I ain't got nothing, Race, I got
(51:54):
an ass cutting for your brewing. Your door just needs
to be should do it. He doesn't have to be
any he doesn't have to be anything else other than that.
And and that's good enough. His best is good enough.
He doesn't have to be extraordinary. This is now the NFL.
(52:14):
It is the league. You remember that movie, The League
of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There are a lot of extraordinary gentlemen
in my league, a lot of them. But that ain't
what he has to be down.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
And that's that's no disrespected him. Let's just let's be realistic.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
They take it how they want to. I'm just saying,
Joe flaccover the year eighteen and he's way past his prime.
Kenny Pickett A, we'll see. He's hurt. Can't make the
club in the tub. Dylan Gabriel, he's hurt.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I'm telling you what.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Say one thing about it, one thing. One thing about
the football gods.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Year me.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
One thing about the football gods when they know, when
they know, especially, it's funny business going on the way
they moving.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Cream Ord's rass at the top.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
I don't care what you put around me. I'm gonna
make it work.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I'm gonna make it to do to listen when you go,
when you go to the casino, and they did them
goddamn cards.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
You can't control what you deal.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Had got to play the hand you depth. You got
to play it to the best of your ability.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's it. That's all they got to do. Go out
there with just straight, straight confidence. This is my team.
You got to walk it. You got to play like it.
You got to walk in that stadium like you own it.
You got the walk. You got to Oh, I see
the game, y'all playing?
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Bet let me show you.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah. And it's not easy because I don't want people
to think that, oh he you never Yes, yes, there were,
there were. There were nice that I would go to bed,
and I'm asking myself, am I good enough? Man? I
only got three plays and I ain't catch your pants?
So if I'm a receiver, how am I getting judged? Yeah?
(54:01):
By everything else to do as a quarterback. He don't
get no reps. How's he getting judged? Okay? I caught
one point. I called it. I called it, and it's like, man,
is it? Man? I had this great careers at Glenville.
I had a great career Savannah State, and now I'm here.
(54:22):
In my mind, I'm thinking, what person doesn't think that
he's better than some of the people that he's going again,
it wasn't like I was. I wasn't going against him,
a Hall of Fame receiver. It wasn't Jerry I wasn't.
It wasn't Jared Rice and my brother Chris Carter and
all those guys out there. That was how I was
gonna have to try to win time from. But I look,
(54:46):
it gave me confidence that John Elway told me I
could play in this league. He thought I had the
ability to play. It helped me a lot with Mark
Jackson would tell would legitimately tell me what I needed
to do. But yeah, there was I'm fighting for a job.
If we fighting for a job and a guy told
me the wrong route, I didn't know it was the
(55:07):
wrong route. I went in there and read it, Dan
read chewting my ass for a speed though, Hey, ask me,
what the hell I'm running the route? What hey, oh,
Joe I swollen. I just knew I read it right, right, Hey,
nice MoU a nice slap arm up rip that tried
(55:27):
to yo, I hit it right quick, because you know
back then and you spend too much time dancing a
lot of screamings, they're gonna come up through your face masks.
So ay playing chop, I'm over. He blowed it with
something like, damn, I ain't even halfway through my route.
Don't yoe what he bloody rest fump. Let me get
this rock, we do something on it, shouting shark, what
(55:48):
the hell are you doing? You know me? Oh smart?
I'm thinking myself, what the hell it looks like? I
do it? Running down route? What you got on such
a second? I think I thought I got What can
I say? Somebody told me the wrong route. You're supposed
to know it the hell you're supposed to do anyway?
Speaker 2 (56:09):
That's he that's a lark, that's a crow.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I'm trying to get a job, and in fact, if
I can remove you out of the way to make
my opportunity to get this job easier, guess what I'm
going to do. I am going to remove you called
removing the competition. We know it. We hear all about
the drug. What they try to do, take over somebody's territory.
(56:35):
You try to expand the territory doesn't matter how I
just need to expand. I need to make sure. So
he's trying to remove me, I run the wrong rockey,
Hey let me, Hey, never ask again. But you know
what and Mayor Porter used to say, God don't like ugly,
sometimes you don't like pretty. Guess who will the first
(56:59):
who to get cut?
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Mm hmm, but he told you the wrong rope?
Speaker 1 (57:04):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Hey, listen, one thing about it. Boy. You can't deny greatness,
but you can't not greatness.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
You know, remember what it was meant for me to
go there?
Speaker 3 (57:17):
Remember when we got when we got when when shdor
got drafted. I said, it's a blessing in disguise because
they've they've always been they've always had an issue at
finding the answer at that position now.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Which they try to play with him. I said, was
that watch they try to play.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
With him and he ends up being the answer that
they didn't even know they had.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Watch. I guarantee you. And if I'm wrong, I put
my foot in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
If I'm what I think, if he might be the answer,
oh Joe, And that was not even a test that
they gave it did That's the problem that they're up against.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Wait a minute, man, we bring that back one more time.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's it. You said he's to be the answer. Yes
he might. He could well be the answer. And that's
not the test that they gave it.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Hey, what you preaching the night back? God?
Speaker 1 (58:12):
What's for you? What's what's for you? What's for you?
It's for you? Can nobody stop it? If it's meant
to be. It's meant to be. And God is God
in good and in bad. And we just got it.
We just we understand that. We accept that. But uh, yeah,
(58:34):
who else? He has a lot going on. Don't think
his mind is not Hey, it's pops. And you know
how close he is with his dad. His dad dealing
with what he's dealing with. But his dad say, hey,
you having that, I got this. You're having that up
there in Cleveland. You let me take care of this
down here in Boulder.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
Hm hm, Hey, make the Browns gready in.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
M B g A.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, yeah, n b n b g A. Make the
Browns great again,
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