September 26, 2025 • 61 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the BEST of Nightcap! Unc & Ocho react to breaking NFL news with Giants rookie QB Jaxson Dart replacing Russell Wilson, Micah Parsons returning to Dallas and if Cowboys fans will boo him, plus Coach Prime calling out the Jaguars for misusing Travis Hunter on offense and defense. Don’t miss all the biggest NFL Week 4 highlights and reactions from Nightcap!
0:00 - Jaxson Dart named Giants starter21:18 - Micah Parsons to be booed in Dallas?34:04 - Falcons Fire Coach after 30-0 loss48:50 - Travis Hunter both sides of ball update
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Brian Dabau named Jackson dark QUB one for the rest
of the season. Here's what Dave Balls had to say
earlier today on the decision.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So, in terms of the quarterback situation, I met both
with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately, and Russ was nothing
but a pro, which I would expect them to be.
It's my decision going with Jackson. We're gonna get him
ready to play this week and the remainder of the season.
(00:37):
He's going to do everything he can. Russ will be
the backup. The conversations that I've had with these young
men will be private, The details will be private. All
I can tell you is we're going with Jackson and
we're getting ready to play, so I'm not going to
add too much to it. Those are private conversations. It's
my decision, and we're going with Jackson.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
O Joe, We're gonna go ahead here. Russ's okay, Okay.
Here's what Russ had to say about the demotion.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, let me hear that. Let me hear that. Let
me and my dog, Let me and my dog.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I think that for me just staying ready, you know,
knowing what I'm capable of, Like I said, life is
about response, and uh, you know, I can control two things,
and that's my attitude and my gratitude. And you know,
I think it's the other thing I can controls my
work ethic and my preparation to be ready when my
name's called again, because I know what I can do,
and I know, you know, I know I'm gonna do
(01:32):
it again.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So that's that's what I'm excited about now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Chat just saying I ain't gonna rage baite. I ain't
gonna do no kind of baiting. When I told you guys,
what was gonna happen, you don't know what you're talking about.
They got even with my guy, even my co host,
the man been with me.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
For two years. We've been through thinking thing. I said.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh to me, I say, look at the way the
man playing. Now I'm telling you what's gonna happen. I say,
over under eight weeks, I said, Russ is gonna start,
Jackson darr is gonna be the start, the backup, and
then James will be the third string quarterback.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Nah nahna. Everybody everybody was greed with you.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I said, Ojo, I can see the way this thing
is playing out because they drafted this guy. And at
the end of the day, the one guy that can
save my job is not Russ, It's not Jameis Winston.
Who's the one guy that can save Brian day ball job?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Ojo?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Did you hear what you just said?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I love that you went that route. Who's the one
guy get saved my job? The guy that I wanted,
the guy that I drafted. But you you throw quarterback
out there right in the middle of the season and
the worst part of the season for them schedule wise,
based on the opponents that they have to play.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
What happens when he doesn't play with but here what
happened with don't play with what happened?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
If you stick to your guns and you say, once
you make this decision, huh, you can't turn back.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He said, He's the quarterback for the rest of the year,
for the rest of you, So you can't. You absolutely correct,
And I wouldn't expect them to turn about and go back.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
But here's the thing, though, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Even if you lose too many games and Jackson Dark
comes into the plays, well, somebody else is gonna be
coaching the next year anyway. So you've got you've got
to go with him.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
You was hey, listen, you was going. You was going
right where I was going. Because I'm gonna say most
of the time, I'm thinking it's a quarterback. And listen,
Jackson Darty showed flashes of braids obviously in the preseason,
but again that's preseason. You know how the defense is
a very very vanilla. I think if he plays well enough,
if two things can happen. If you can play well,
you can play bad. If you play bad, the ball
you got in there. If he plays well and shows
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what we already with flashes, what we've already seen.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Hell, you still might be fired.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
True.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
If Jackson dark plays well, I think it's gonna buy
the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Sometimes might be right, I personally, now this is what
we know. I think we saw he got the job
in New York because of how world he worked with
Josh Allen. But we see Josh Allen after he leaves
still go win an MVP.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Okay, right, he has a Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Indiana Jones looks better away from New York than he
did in New York. So what so so, how much
are we to deduce that that day Ball might not
be the quarterback whisper that we really thought he was
because Josh Allen is still playing at the MVP level.
He's the MVP front runner as we currently speak. And
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you look at Indiana Jones what he's doing and with
the Colts, So he I don't like, I said, I don't.
And Ojo we talked about his Sunday. I said, Ojoe,
if it's me, I'm gonna start him against the Chargers
at home. I'm not gonna start him on the road
in a hostile environment. I'm gonna start it because at
least it will buy them some time. Yeah, but I'm
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starting him Son I was gonna. I said, I'll start
him Sonnay against the Chargers and then I'm gonna go
from there. But I knew this was gonna come sooner
rather than later, just based on look and it's look,
it's never just one guy's fault. You can't make twenty
two changes, Ojoe. You can make what's the one change
that I think can significantly.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Impact the game.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They believe it's the quarterback position. Now, the offensive line
is gonna have to play better. Everybody's gonna have to
play better. Pick up their plate. You know, there are
some mistakes that was made on Russ uh and I
think you know him throwing the ball out of the
end Z on the fourth down didn't do himself any
favors throwing a couple of couple of uh picks. But
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like you, like you said, oh Joe, it's not all
on Russ, but the quarterback. They get way too much
credit and they take way too much blame.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I feel I feel bad for us.
I feel bad for us. But this is what happens
when you're when you're towards the end of your career
and you're going from team to team. Russ is a
great guy. Russ is a great guy. He's a he's
a professional.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He's the ultimate professional at the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
He's similar to what if you would if you were
to have a comparison to Russell Wilson when it comes
to the receiver that does everything the right way as
as a professional. I look at last as Gerald, you know,
when it comes to all thy every everything. So for us,
you know, I feel bad for him, God for man,
one of God and children, says all the right things,
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does all the right things.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
He works hard. But obviously now it's in Jackson dark team. Again.
I told you young I would be. I would be in.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
New York, right, So I'm going to night. So who
you who you think I saw at the at the
inner Miami game, and I told you I won't see him. Neighbors,
the league, neighbors. So we said they have a conversation.
I noticed the cameras are watching, so they can't read.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
No lifts.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I say, I'll flip my back and turn to me
and I ask the questions. That the questions that's necessary.
You know, how you feeling things not going well? How
do you feel about not getting the ball? What do
they need to do to be able to get you
the ball? Putting you in different positions? And obviously we
had a conversation, very lengthy conversation, I about thirty minutes,
you know, on the field, on the pitch before the
game started. And obviously as any as any receiver feels.
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And once I won't say anything, burbad him put me
in positions to make the players. I'm gonna make them.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's it. Put throw me the ball. That's it. It's
pretty simple.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
It's not it's not cold, that's it. T mem positions
to make the players and put the ball in the
area in the vicinity. If anywhere I can reach it,
I'm gonna catch it. It was simple as that, simple
as that. Obviously some other things, but I can't diswose those.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But that's it, that's it.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I'm all right.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
And then he of course he say, it don't matter
who's playing quarterback, right, that doesn't matter, not not to me.
I'm him.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I got to go do my job.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But in order for me to do my job, I
need people to put me in position to do my job. Yeah,
well you say I need you, I need you to
clean the gutters. Well I'm an clean the gutter, but
you damn better give me a loner so I can
get my ass up there. You can't tell me to
do something. Joy, then don't look if I can win
damn near any war if you give me the the
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artillery to go fight said wars. You want me to
go compete, give me opportunities, put me in position so
I can compete.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And that's all he's saying.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
He's like, look, yeah, who wouldn't want to have a
top five quarterback? But we know there's thirty two teams
in every quarterback situation is different. But what makes those
guys unique is that their coordinators put them in position.
Jerry got put in position, Randy and Chris Carter than
the Marvin Harrison and Lam Fitzgerald, all the receivers that
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has these numbers, the Pro bowls, the all pros got.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Put in position. No matter what you think about, who's
your office.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
The coordinator Zee Brokowski, bose you was for a couple
of years, barbera house barb barbaracause.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It doesn't have to be a Kyle Shanahan or Sean
mcvaig or this or that. All you have to do
is understand the pieces and move them compriately.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Hey, you notice what you just said. Understand the pieces
that you have, understanding your strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Because the coordinators not having egos and saying this is
my scheme, this is what I'm gonna run it, I'm
gonna position and you have to get open based on
my philosophy, my ideologies, and my scheme.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The more creative, the more creative coordinators.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Whoever, the whoever, the goddamn lions off the coredator is
the and reads the cows, Well, I know what he's
good at. I know he's not good at, so I'm
not gonna put him in that position for him to
get exposed. Everybody plays receiver, but everybody can't get open
the same.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Some people you gotta stab them. Some people you gotta
move them, some people you gotta put them in. Some
people it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
See our job unless unless.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Unless, unless you're one of those tierwe receivers where all
the all the what's the world on the all the
things that the makeup of being a great receiver, they're
really good at all of them. Like Jamar Chases, I
see Malik Neighbors as a Tier one receiver where you
don't need much creativity. I can get what I need
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to get done off the muscle because I'm like that.
It's only a few of them too. It ain't a handful. Oh,
it's only a handful. And I'm not getting into that
because I don't want to piss nobody off.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
But I watched, I watched.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I think the thing is oho is that when you
look at these guys, is that my job was easy
playing for Mike because I know Mike's aggressive, So Mike's
gonna take chances were unnecessarily like some courting that is
gonna play it strictly by the book, Mike going for
the juggler, and I know that he's gonna call plays
a quarterly, so now I can.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Do things a quarterly. M hmm.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Look like I said, quarterbacks take to get a lot
of credit, far too much to get far too much blame.
But I saw I saw this coming. I saw this
coming when Jackson Dart played well. Oho, and we had
our final show. After Jackson Dart played well, I said
over under, I really wanted to say, the first quarter,
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the first four games, I'm like, oh, Joe, this kid playing,
this kid unless Russ blows it out of the water,
hold it off.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Hell, he blew it out. He blew it out the
water in the Dace game. After that is game, I thought,
oh yeah, he just brought himself some time. He brought
himself at least three four, five games. And then after
there was that, they just played.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh. I mean, it's the Chiefs, it's the cheese.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But see, people don't look at the chief if we
looked at it, if the three years ago chiefs, I said, Okay,
you got a point, Oho, you got a point.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So struggling struggling chiefs don't count die.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Hell and and and I think the first game they
played the Commanders. Look right, he bought he basically he
bought them. There was hoping, let me tell you, looking
at it from from my perspective and having my years
of experience, they were hoping Russ by them a little
bit more time, O Joe.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I agree with you. I don't. They didn't want him
to play this soon. They was hoping that.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They were hoping Russ could buy them some time, at
least half a season, give us half a season. Yeah,
but at this current pace, Dave Ball wasn't gonna have
half a season.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
They're gonna end up. They're gonna end up firing him.
He's the boy. It was just it was, it wasn't
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
This is the thing what I don't like.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Russell Wilson is not in a position to where he
used to be, where he can elevate a team where
he's a quarterback, elevate the team regard regard, regardless to the.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Pieces that's around him.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Now he's in the position as a quarterback who's somewhat
still adequate, but needs to play around him to elevate.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yes, he needs words before, O Joe. He can get
away with less than ideal situations he didn't need, and
he didn't need the Great Wall of China to be
his offensive line. He didn't need he didn't need two
three four wide receivers in the tight end.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
He didn't need the lights.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Out, even though he had that in Seattle. But now
he needs more. As we get older, we need more.
Tom went got more, Peyton Went got more. Aaron Rodgers
he need, he needed more. And that's what happens. As
we get older, we need more help. So now where
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we could elevate everyone else, we need someone to help
elevate us.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, I think somewhat too. It's not it's not fair.
You look at the situations in which he went to
he went.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
He went to Denver. I'm not saying Denver.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
There's anything wrong with Denver, but I'm just saying it
wasn't to me an ideal situation for him.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Similar to when Peyton Manning went to Denver, it was
a different game, situation.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Different when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, it was
a different ball game. I think the situations that he
went to weren't ideal for him to continue to have
set success the way we're used to seeing Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Success I think, and this is what I'm saying. Sometimes
the devil you know is better than the one you
don't see. Russ didn't realize whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Whoa whoa You ain't whoa whoa?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Hold on right there, stay right?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Oh what a were you cooking? Hold on? Hold on?
Oh I'm using that city.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one
you don't see.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Russ didn't realize how great of a situation he had
in Seattle. You see, he wanted more, He wanted more control,
he wanted more input, He wanted more of this and
more of that. He goes somewhere and he didn't have
He didn't have what he had in Seattle. He didn't
realize how good he actually had it in Seattle. Sometimes
we don't realize just how good we have something until
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it's taken away from us, and then you actually realize, See,
we take for granted the ability here and the ability
to smell, and the ability of.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
The taste, or have all the uses of our limbs.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Then when you don't have such, you realize, like damn,
you don't realize, how how did how the hell did
I survive without a telephone? This loan y'all the hell
did they? Ooh, I couldn't imagine not being able to
watch TV. I can't imagine not being able to go
to a restaurant and just work, order whatever I want. Right,
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So he had that situation and he wanted more. Now
he got he got financial security. Yeah, you general for
a couple of generations. Oh yeah, but at the end
of the day, we haven't thought of we have it.
Russ really haven't consistently looked like Seattle Russ since he
left Seattle.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we understand that we played the game,
so we understand situations when you change when you leave it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
When you leave a team.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Like that, that's great as they were offensively and especially defensively,
you would hope and want ideal situations.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Swimme to what you left from but didn't like.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Most of the time, it doesn't happen like that, going
on from going for Peyton Manning, going from Indy and
then going to Denver already stacked team, super ready team.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
All who was missing was a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
The goddamn the jamis went to keep the Tampa and
Tom Brady coming into a team that is already ready
to established.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We just need a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I said, you have to understand because I was look
in Denver. I'm very close to because all my people,
a lot of my people were still there, and I
would go back and I watched how Peyton ingratiated himself.
He was not stand offish, took time for everybody. He
was Peyton Manning. You do realize at the time that
he came to Denver, Oh, Joe, he was a fourth
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He was a four.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Time league MVP. Absolutely he was.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He was already a five or six time First Team
All Pro quarterback. No quarterback has more First Team All pros,
more MVPs than Peyton Manning. But you wouldn't know that
by being around him and talking to it. And then
you watch him in the meeting rooms, and you watch
him on the practice field, and now you understand. He
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demands that you play at a level and you gotta
match him.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You got to.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Tom Brady forces you to match that because people watch
him and they see him if he's working that hard.
Nothing less is accepted to me. Absolutely, everybody is. Everybody
leads differently, but everybody can't be a great leader. There's
a you got corporals and you got lieutenants, and you
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got one star and two star and three star and
four star. They don't do five star generals anymore. They've
only been five of those in the history of what
we have the military. But and Russ handled it like
I thought he would. He ain't hurt man, You take
it my job, and I got a stand up.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Do realize I got him throw how many touchdowns a
Russ throwing for? Damn near four hundred? He's got to
be well over three. Came in the league in twenty third,
so this is his fourteenth season. So he came in
in twenty twelve. He's with RG three and Andrew Louck,
so he's got three undre and fifty three touchdowns. Remember
the guys you know got three und fifty three touchdown
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Stand on the sideline and hold the clipboard with the
ear head set in the ear. Those guys start until
they don't want to start it until it's time for
them to lead the league.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Look at the guys. Look at the guys that have
thrown for.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Three hundred plus touchdowns, none of them never been never
got demoted like that. You look at Matt Ryan, you
look at Ben Roethlisberger, you look at Philip Rivers, John
l Way, Damn Marino, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
That's eight.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I can talk fake up off the top of my head,
Johnny U Ninus. Now obviously Johnny ended up going you know,
he didn't do very well when he got when he
left Indy and ended up going to the Chargers. But
it hurts, and you gotta put on a brave face,
you do because a lot of times people want to
see you crack and Russ and Russ and Russ is
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not wired like that.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Russey's gonna remain.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Positive and I'm happy when I'm very happy with the
way he's handled this whole situation because deep down inside
he knew Ojo, you go to a place and they
draft a.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Quarterback, you ready know what time it is.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
When Tom went to Tawn talk, did they take a
quarterback in the first round?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
No, And so they were just like, hey, t t
t t tik tik, and you gotta fight because you
know they want to play it. That's not that he's
not a decoration, that's not something that you just prop up. No,
they wanted to play him. It's not like a situation
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like Alex Smith had they drafted Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
He knew Patrick Mahons. He said, I got one year.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There's nothing I can do to keep them from playing
Patrick Mahomes next year. My job is to try to
keep them from playing his ass this year. And they
went eleven and five. Boom, they lost. They lost till
the Titans had an eighteen to three lead.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
They ended up losing.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But we'll see what Jackson Dark got going against the Chargers,
who played as well as anybody in the in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So three and old, I like, go ahead, good.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm still stuck. I know.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
We talked about Jackson Dark, we talked about Russell Wilson
and the Giants and all that, but I'm still stuck in
the god damn quote you live with Now. That's when
I haven't heard before. I heard my grandma, my grandfather
say all type of stuff. But I'm using that the
devil you know is sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Better when you don't. Who had this to the pamphlet? God?
I mean, boy, it's not an easy role that the
Giants have to go. And I don't know if you
were a Sunday we went over the schedule, so Sunday
they played the Giants excuse me, the Chargers, and then
they're on the road October fifth at New Orleans. They're
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home on a short week Thursday against the Eagles. Then
they go at Denver, at Philly, home to the Niners,
at Chicago, home to the Packers, at Detroit, at New
England by week.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Hey, but that's tough, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Michael Parsons doesn't expect any booze when he returns this
Dallas on Sunday. I think they're gonna give me a
good round of applause. There's no hard feelings there, at
least from me. It's going to be a great atmosphere.
When asked about this feeling towards Jerry Jones, not a
welcome back tribute. There are a lot of things I
consider disrespectful throughout the process, but I wouldn't say the
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tribute it's one of them.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I just think there's hard feelings maybe there for them,
but for me. I'm happy where I'm at and we
got a good football team, so I guess I can
receive my tribute when I win.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
O Jo, we both returned played.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Against our former team we invested so much into Obviously,
you tell me all the time. I was just there
for like a weekend at Baltimore. But uh, did you
go back? Did you play? And did you play Cincinnati?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
No, no I did. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
You have to think once I left Cincinnati, I only
had that.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Right right right, Yeah, I was done. I was done.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, they gave me love. I mean I when I
went back to Denver. I went back to Denver the
second year because first year, Ohoe, we beat him in
the first round of the playoffs in the wild card game.
So we beat him. And then the following year we
went back. Crowd cheered every time I caught the ball.
They introduced the offense. Crowd cheered, I go back. Then
I go back to Denver and we go to Baltimore.
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Gave me love both times. So I think the thing
is is that for me, there was really no hostility
one way or another.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
There's really no.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Protracted contracts and going back and forth asking for a trade.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
X Y and z uh.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But I told you when he laid on that table,
I said, oh Yo, that ain't a good look.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Though, Yes, I told you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
The funny thing back, especially when it comes to the
Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys fan base, there's no hostility towards Michael
Parson because you know, everything was out of his Yes,
everything's out of control.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So everything that was.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Said and and and in somewhat of an almost an
unfair way that you don't think an owner would say.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
He can maybe think it.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
But actually Jerry Jones one of one of the few
owners who gets away with saying the things that other
owners think.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And he said it out loud. He didn't care.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
So if anything, when he does come back to goddamn Dallas,
there's no reason for the fans to do it at
any If anybody's being booed is you know.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, for me, I was Look, I was in I
was endeavored for ten years. The first time, Oh Joe
and come back and you know we had won you know, uh,
back to back Super Bowls. I was you know, went
to seven consecutive Pro Bowls, all Pro and all that stuff,
and went to one Pro Bowl in Baltimore. But I
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think the thing is is that the fans really appreciated
how hard I work. I didn't complained. I just came
to work, showed up, did my job, and I left.
I had only had got along great with my teammates.
And I think Michael got along. Look I don't know
the inner and outso but I don't know, But I
just think the thing is the last, like the last
for two or three months, oh show with this contract talk.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And you know, look at the end of the day,
those fans, they're Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Now you might find a sprinkle here there are Michael
Parsons fans, but those are Cowboys fans. And more times
than not, you know how fans are fans are gonna
side with the team.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
That's that's just the way it is.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Well, listen, you also have something that have common sense
and understand how things are working. Some understand the business,
some don't. Some only worried about who is a part
of my Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Team that's all about.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
But then some understand the business and understand how it
works and able to separate the two being a fan
and understanding how the team, how the team works, especially
when to come down to sometimes they should be used
to it anyway, usual anyway when it comes to their
star players, because they've had that, they've had to deal
with it for so many years.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yeah, I think that it's just funny going back.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Standing on the opposite side, staring across over there for
so for ten years though, Joe, I'm still on this
side looking across the field. Now I'm over I'm across
the field, staring back across the field.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
And the same thing when I went to Baltimore is different.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You go in different way, you know, all of a sudden,
Now I'm taking a bus to the stadium.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I'm used to driving myself to the stadium.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So it's it's uh, it's gonna be different. It's gonna
be different. Uh. And it's so new, I mean like
only four years in Dallas. I mean most people when
you leave and go back to play another team, it's
years and years.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
You know, Peyton, when.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Tom played New England, think about how long Tom Tom
had played twenty season in New England.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
He goes back, you know, first year. Uh an he plays.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So we get that, but it's like, man, four years,
that's really damn that's quick. But you don't sometimes don't
show you don't get that. That's out of your control.
We don't always get the control. And look at us
an athlete, we try to control what we can control
because and that's what we're good at. Ojo, because look
I knew if I work my tail off, Okay, good
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thing is gonna happen. Because I can control that. I
can control how hard I work. When it comes to
things like what happened with mil that was out of
its control.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Yeah, absolutely, And matter of fact, when it comes to
things that we can control, the one thing that we
can control, we can control our production.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And what we do and the work we put it.
Most of the time, if you put the work in,
the results are going to show. Career Sundays.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Two things we can't control is we can't control injuries.
You can't control getting older. That's it you want to do.
You want to do as much as you can in
between that time and trying to sure you don't get hurt.
But once you hit like thirty and thirty one, the
game start to play the game.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Listen, once you hit.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Thirty and thirty one, thirty two, thirty three, they start
playing the games. Oh well, your targets start start decreasing,
and they start, you know, we need to talk to
you about your production and a man, come.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
On, but I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I mean tributes normally mad, that's for like the best
of the best.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
I mean, you won championship here at MVP. You know
what I'm saying, Like that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You're a Defensive Player of the Year, you spend some time,
I mean after four years. And look, and this is
not a knock on Michael. Michael's a phenomenal player. But
you know when MM it came back, and it came back,
he was all time lead rushier.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
If it was an MVP and it was won three
Super Bowls, Tom going back to New England, Peyton, going
back to Indy's, it's levels to I mean of a
video tribute, everybody's not gonna get a video tribune even
if you play ten years, fifteen years of a place,
every I mean, it all depends on who you were,
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what you did. If you're a fifteen year special Teams player,
you're probably not.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Maybe if you're Matthew Slater, you'll probably get one. If
you're Adam Vannittieri Vinitieria, you'll probably get one. But but look,
if I'm Mike, I ain't worried about that. Like Michael said, look,
we win the game, that's my tribute, and I'm coming.
You know he coming. O Joe, you know he's been
working on a move He's like, because well we're there
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on your let me tell you what you did when
you were going to get your guys in practice? You know,
if if this was a real game, what would happen? Yeah,
because I'm saying, bro, you do realize this practice, but
if I actually played you in a real city a.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Situation, right right right?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Brom cooking y'all? Oh yeah, for real?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Yeah, and listen, you know you know a list one
thing about it, especially in practice, that them boys made
me better.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I remember all my dv's name by hard. Remember Jeff Burns.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I think you wouldn't to day right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Jeff Burr's.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Leon Hall Tory, Jane Toy played with me, he played
with me and Denver. Yeah, man, listen j Joe, Jonathan Joseph.
I'm it's some more.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Pac Man he un But in practice, oh man, I'm
talking about listen.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
I got mine. They got me some time too. But
I know who got I know who won most of that,
hey boy.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
With pac Man, Me and pac Man in practice? Oh
my god.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
But it look, I won't you took about work, but we.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
We we was out there working, and I won't feedback work.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I'm out there working like I'm a seventh round pick
on man, Marvin, and you had they had to throw
me out of practice. Why the hell is you taking
the scout team?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Raps?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Man?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Get out the people wait.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Because I knew I wanted to go against my number ones.
I'm not gonna get no real work unless I'm going
against my number ones.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
They had. Let let me tell you how bad it.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Well, I know I'd been playing around a lot, but
when it came time to play football, I might have
been fun and talking trash and doing all that entertainment.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But when it came to that game and being.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
A student of the game, I told you, but hey, oh,
preseason they talked about how many snappers were gonna play
ship You're gonna call the time out to get me
out the game. But that, but that was that was
so much fun to me, man, just looking at Marvin
face when all the ones came out, all the ones
that come out, and I stand on the field and
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act like it's something wrong with me until the second
team come in and forced Marvin to call the time out. Man, Listen,
I'm here to play football. Man, I ain't worried about
no injuries. You mean, I'm don't don't try to protect
me from getting hurt preseason.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm here, I played football.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I went through two two weeks of training camp, two
a days, and now you're telling me I only get
to play one series one drive, No, sir.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's in a situation like that, Michael's gonna look, Mike
is gonna say, this is why I was worth forty
seven million this game. This is why the package gave
up two first rounders and Kenny Clark and gave me
forty seven million dollars. This is why. Yeah, you see
what I did today, This is why.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Make it make it absolutely matter of fact.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
And speaking of forty seven million, he gonna show that
all seas long, especially as they continue to work him in,
allow him to get more reps, allowed to get his
legs up under him, you know, once he gets in
football shape because he missed so much time, you know,
missing training camp.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So here we only we we only were in.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Week foo, yeah, week four, and uh you know, hey,
it's gonna take him a while. I mean a couple
of couple of weeks from being in in in tip
top football shape. Oh yeah, right now that you know
he's specialist right now, but hey, him and Rashan Garrett
pretty soon, because Rashawn Garrett is for the lead league
in Sack.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Pretty soon, they're gonna start.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
We got half, Rashaan got four a half.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You see what happened when he come on Nightcap. See
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
That ain't number God, That ain't number of God's work.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Everybody come on Nightcap, have success with militia with Melissa
Jefferson was left with.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
In Tokyo to what three oh three of them?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
The four one.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Three goals.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Everybody come on Nightcap having success.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
That's it, ain't it ain't a coincidence. It is not.
You need should be Hey, tightest, Titus.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Tightus, make me pity, Hey, let me let me get
let me get tightest for a week.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
No, no, no, you don't know what. First of all,
you don't know how to handle You ain't been around doll.
You don't know how to handle them.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Come on, I haven't had dog.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Now he's different.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
No, he good, he's good.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I'm I'm a dog. I'm a dog. Not that kind
of dog I'm saying. I'm like, I'm a dog. I
become one with the animal. They used to call me
the dog whisperer back in back in ninety two.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
No, oh, Joe, you, I just want to take him
to the dog park so he intact.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I know he attacked man.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yes, so you're not supposed to have you can't have
him there.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
He needs faded. Okay, I'm gonna get he. I'm gonna
get the homie.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Some boy. People assue you.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
No, no, no, I mean I got it. It's a lady.
I know she got a poodle. That's heat.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He'll be a b with them. Yeah, tell him, Uh,
you might stay here with dad. The Falcons fire wide
receiver coach Ike Hellyard one day after being routed by
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the NFC rivals Carolina Panthers. Offensive game game coordinator t J.
Yates will assume TJ.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Yas that's the.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Quarterback, wasn't a quarterback for the Texans, will assume hear
your's duties for the team. Offensive coordinator Zach Robinson will
call played from the sideline moving forward. Robinson call played
from the coaches booth since he joined the team in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Hey, I'm confused. Is that supposed to be a distraction
of some sort? What's the point of what's the point
of finding the receiver coach.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
I don't know. The quarterback played terrible.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Yeah, some some I mean that that doesn't make any
sense to me, especially this.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think that name's had for me.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, I don't get that. I don't know. Maybe that
was something internally internally that was going on, but I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
If you shake your things up, I don't understand how
to put it. So what guys running the wrong round?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
So?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I mean, what was going on?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
They got into an argument, the coordinator and the position culture,
the head coach and the position coach got into it.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
I agree with you, this don't seem right.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
It might it might have been something like that. It
might have been something like that, and it had to
be some issues going on where but somebody might have
been arguing, because I mean, find anybody. Week three, come on, man,
come on.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Panther was blown out by the Panthers, blew out the
facts thirty to nothing. Michael Pennix Jr. Had his worst
game of his career young career, throwing two interceptions. He
hasn't thrown a touchdown to a receiver or a tight
end this season. In fact, he has only one touchdown
past this season. That's to be John Robinson, Oh, Joe.
I mean, look, we've all had receiver coaches. I'm just
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trying to figure out how much can a receiver coach
be responsible for the offense.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
He's not, he's not. He's not responsible for that, absolutely not.
He has one job to do. That's the coach receivers
the different Make sure you get from point A to
point B as fast as you can and catch the
goddamn ball. That's it.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
That's all he can do.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
And make sure you're well prepared, knowing the game plan
and what you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Yeah, I'm shocked.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
That's why I know it had to be something else.
Something must have went on that sideline that or maybe
behind closed doors where it didn't sit well and they
let brother brother. Here you go, the great I just
mentioned the other night too when were talking about the
Gator yea Gators.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, let me tell you this, there's gonna be a
lot of other people fire that quarterback don't start playing better.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Oh yeah, I hear. You might have been the first
to go.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But let that quarterback play better, quarterback coach mm hmm,
the office coordinator.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Yeah. And in fact, mister.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Now you got me curious. I wanted to know wody
was fired. I'm for to be.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Nosy because we thought the Falcons were gonna be good.
I'm not saying I'm not not for a second on you.
I thought they were going to the super Bowl, but
I thought they would be better than what they were
last year.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You look at the weapons that they got.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
They got a Night they got Mooney, and they got
Drake Drake London Clod, they got John Robinson, they got
our Yere, they got a nice little they got a
nice little squad.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Good weapons.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
With those weaponry, you can't get shut out with those reape.
But if your quarterback play like some stir fry, you can't. Yeah,
he played bad late with Bro. You know you Bro,
how you gonna stay? How you're gonna be on this
side looking at this half of the field, it'd all
of a sudden come back and throw to the flat blind.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Nah, you can't do that. That's going another way. That's going
the way, that's going the other way. Every time, if anything,
if if anything, you read one and two. If one
and two ain't that, then you go to the flat
right away, because if you take any more time than that.
The corner they was they was in two the corner.
He draps.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
He ain't gonna now where anyway, he ain't got he
ain't got nothing to threaten him deep, So why would
why would he go deep?
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Exactly exactly? Show wasn't So.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, I don't get I don't I don't get this one.
This is this this move befuddles me because I've never heard,
like I said, not maybe something happened. We don't know
all the intricacys of what transpired, and something had to
have happened. Ain't no way you believe that you got
shut out thirty to nothing, and that responsibility falls on
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the receivers coach.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Mm hmm, the receivers coach.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Hey, I might have I might have cussed somebody out. Man,
you might have cussed out the office coordinator.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Okay, now maybe maybe maybe that makes sense, probably even
if after two weeks, I mean after three weeks, I mean,
this is this is where we are right now. Yeah,
so that now you said we're in a panic mode.
Yeah you you you you set us up for panic
when we shouldn't be panic.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
You should be calm.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Yeah, right, shoult, I'm nosy. I just I just take
ray race, like what what what happened back.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I'm nosy.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, this does a if this is a I'm surprised
by this. I didn't think Atlanta was a super Bowl
contending team, but I did think there would be much
better than what they did, what they showed last year.
And it's not a good look. O yo with you
guy that you know your starter you three in week three,
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you already had to put him on the US I say, nah,
so we've seen enough.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah that's not good.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
No mm hm.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
And you let you let him go out on the
sword too, Yeah, sure, let you let him go out
on the sword, especially once you've already made that move
that you are a quarterback of the future. There's no
reason that Kirk Cousins should be going in that game, No,
none at all.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Not Kirk not Cousins believed that he got a chance
to get back in.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
There basically, and he's a good and Kurt is a
good sport for actually going in the game.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
He is, I mean what I mean, Hey, first, Cousin
ain't trying to give him no money back. Why am
I gonna get, you know, conduct detrimental by not going
back into the game, and they get takes some of
my money I'm gonna get all this money you know
much Cousins has made. Oh yeah, I ain't get y'all
none of that change. Yeah, i ain't give y'all none
of that back. I'm gonna get all that. As a
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matter of fact, y'all still only about ten twelve next
year gonna get that too, might get some mo Yeah,
this this makes them sense, So Joe, Look like I said,
we didn't. We didn't think the fact was gonna be
world beater. But we saw some of the promise that
they showed last year at the end of the season
when Panis came in. Uh, guys were getting the ball
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and you know so much, you know, Uh talking to Kyle,
he seemed very excited. Yeah, as a matter of fact,
when we had the tour, Uh, but that was last
year from rahee We talked to Raheem. But we we
we still thought that they were gonna be good. We
thought they were gonna be really good this year because
you know, Pennis was talking about you know, he he's
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looking for Kyle, and you know, we got Drake Lenney,
we got Mooney, and we got Ray Ray and we
got you know, we got some weapons. We got Bijon
who's a dual thrag and catch it. We can run
it and Wyse Algier good power back. This this moves
makes this move makes no sense to.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Me at all.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Connor's running back, James Connor will undergo surgery on his
foot and will miss the rest of the twenty twenty
five season.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
How big of a loss is this, O, Joe man.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
It's a big loss. It's a big loss. Marvin Harrison Jr.
Didn't have a very very good game.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You have you gotta you gotta gotta have a problem
with the drops right now.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Yo, Now you got you got your You got Connor out.
He's going he's your bell, Kyle. Now that put more
pressure on Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
More pressure on.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Kyler Murray knowing Marvin's knowing, Marvin Harrison Jr. He gonna
bounce back, he gonna bounce back.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
All of it.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
All it is you have game like this.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Hell I've had Okay, I haven't had a game like this,
but I've had games where I've dropped the ball before.
And all it is going back to practice, looking the
ball and starting over like your little kid, the ball
and every time find the laces, Cass, the laces don't
take your ads out the ball, make sure you got
it secured, and then and then just go yeah and
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get yourself.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
You're trying to do too much on Joe.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
Yeah, that's it, taking it, taking his eyes off the ball.
That's all the w And it's easy to the most
difficult passes to catcher, the ones that's wide open. Where
you wide where you wide open, man, you take your
ass off the ball trying to make a play before
you secure it.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
That's all easily wide open.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
And you know the guy gonna be coming at a
rate of a high rate of speed, so he's like, man,
I make one move, and you made the move and
the balls on the ground, so it doesn't matter if
you made.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
The move, made the mins right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Uh Yeah, it's tough, yer, James Carter, he's their bell cop.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
I think he went to the Pro Bowl last year.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Runs hard, can catch the ball out of the backfield,
but he's really their ball cop running back. I don't
know who his backup is, but it just puts more
emphasis on on as you mentioned on.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Color in that passing game, it's it's tough.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I mean, you hate to see a guy, you know,
because you know we've been there. We know, we put
in to make sure we try to stay as healthy
as we possibly can once the season start. And here
we are, you know, three weeks into the season and
we're done for the year.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Done for the year, man, That's that's only that's happened.
I mean, I broke my collar on the week four
and I was done for the year, and I was miserable.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Damn, but you done broke.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
But you done broke everything.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Fractured my eye socket and missed the last three games
of the season, dislocated my elbow, miss four games of
the season, sprain and knee ligament.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Hey, listen, if I played with you when none of
that happened, if we was on the same team, you
wouldn't have had no juries. Your shoulders would have been straight,
your knees, your ankles, all that, the angles you had
to keep getting the angle shot.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Up wouldn't have been no problem.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
I had no problem.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You would have been streat.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Man my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Man, I just caught a pass and rested Sol Dave
dor So I called it separated my shoulder when I
fell on this one and then he fell on top.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Of this one. A separated the other one. Listen both
of them.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
Yeah, I would have popled the boy right back in
place for you on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Take this, popped the back.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
I would take this tour it off, put this harness on,
and you're good to go.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I ain't wearing no harness, but I just uh, that
was like the last like the last preseason game. Yeah,
and then I misspracticed. Shot the shoulders up that Sunday. Yeah,
played as long as I could, and that made a
trying to think I cracked back on somebody.
Speaker 6 (45:50):
Oh no, no, I forgot you ton Lotton yep.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
I thing with numb it was a rap if they
were hanging out the.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Bone and you hit the helmet like this.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Oh, I couldn't do that. I couldn't even do that. Yeah.
I was like, come come get me, Come get me.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
What's what Greek? Steve Anton was I training is what
it is? Sharpe said, Greek, I'm done. He said, can
you rick? He's like sharp you can you rate? No,
I'm gonna tell you before you even asked, The answer
is no. Can you squeeze my hand?
Speaker 5 (46:30):
No? Can you so? Oh, Joe, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Going ahead and Greek, I will prepare you for everything
that you're gonna ask me, was already know.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
I can't do it?
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Yeah? Can you?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Can you push my hands out? You know, push my
hands out like this? Can you push your hands in?
I can't do none of that. Yeah, I just uh yeah,
I just I just feel bad because, man, you put
so much, you put so much time in that.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Yeo. Then I fraction my orbital bone, oh joe. And
so they.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
For a week to have my eye lit, have my
eyes closed, so my eye lids shut.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Had to sit up a man. It was damn And
you're gonna talk about I need to beat man? Please?
What happened you're talking about? Man?
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You gotta live. You gotta do some adventure. I ain't
trying to have nothing else broke at my a.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
The stuff we're gonna do, the stuff that we're gonna
do that's venturous. It is not stuff that can have
caused you to reinjure anything that's that that's.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
Happened to you.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
I'm gonna be doing all the danger stuff. You just
gonna be there for more more support. Okay, that's all.
Can I uh? Can I can? I can I like.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
Video? Can I watch from here?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Nah?
Speaker 6 (47:52):
We're supposed to be like Tom and Jerry, Man, you
got you gotta be out in the interfere with me.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Okay, I can see Jordan.
Speaker 6 (48:04):
Nah now, Jordan, Jordan cameraman, I.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Know that's what Jordan and Joran and Jordan sending it
back to me. I can be watching like, yeah, that
that's good. That's a good shot there, Jordan.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
We are young.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
It's so it's so much stuff.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
It's so much stuff that that is untouched. I'm telling
you when it when it comes to creating content that
we can do that nobody else is doing.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
We can go.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
We can go uh hang gliding, we go deep sea diving.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
We we do.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
We have time to do that in the off season. Okay,
nightcap The Adventures of Uncle Ocho. Man, we have about
we have about one hundred two hundred thousand people watching. Man,
I'm telling you, go go kart racing, Go shark diving.
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
A few days after Coach Crime said that Jacks aren't
using Travis on enough, Liam co fit Travis hur to
roll on offense, won't expand take a list to what
he had to say, O.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
Joe, Yeah, he's one right now, one position on offense
and one position on defense, so that that doesn't really
fully change. It's just more the next guy having to
go and adjust to to go play some Z which
what which is what happened in the game. So no,
I don't think it changes much.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
So after the season where he'll be he'll off offense.
Speaker 7 (49:27):
Yeah, it's fair right now to say, hey, dude, go
learn Z n X and twelve and this and that.
It's like, man, we got to make sure he can
really go and execute it. We're asking him to do
first and foremost, which is play f and play at corner.
So I think as we go and as he goes,
I gotta believe that it'll continue to do this.
Speaker 6 (49:44):
That's why I can see more Parker went the Ono
town so more Jennis Parker. I know he was very
transparent with us about two jobs.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
You said he had great practice last week. Consoctations with
his usage.
Speaker 7 (49:53):
Yeah, I think you know, I have not lost any
confidence in Parker by any means. You know, stuff happens.
It's not obviously something that we're excited about in the moment,
but you know, he took He takes a lot of
responsibility and accountability. He works his tail off every single
day practice like like I said, he literally had his
best week of practice last week as a jog since
we've been here, So you know, there's a lot of confidence.
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I really the message to him is, dude, like we
got to just move forward.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I agree, yeah, I mean me, I always thought o
Jo he would be better serve playing defense and didn't
have packages for and more offense. I mean, but everybody,
everybody wanted to manage just say, we're gonna just throw
him in there and let him play.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
This ain't college. I don't care what anybody says. I
don't care how many snaps he played and how great
he was. This is the best, not the best. There's
a reason why they stopped doing that in the sixties.
There's a reason. So to ask this man and see,
I'm not concerned, Ojo. There have been a lot of
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guys that can play both ways, but can you play
them in an elite level?
Speaker 5 (51:02):
Because that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
You see Troy Brown played offensive defense, you saw a
Julian Edelman play it in Spurts, But can you play
it at the level? Can you hold your own against
Jamar Chase and then can you go beat pats Er
tan On a consistent basis. Can you beat Stingley on
a consistent basis? Can you beat saut Gardener on a
consistent basis? Okay, can you d up Jetni? Can you
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d up neighbors? Brian Thomas Jr? Chase? Can you do that?
So this notion about oh he can do that, he
can do that. I want to see him do it
at an elite level on both sides of the ball.
And the coaches said, there'll be a time for that.
Let the guy get used to the system.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
He's not there yet.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Obviously this is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
But everybody they misusing him. They're not misusing it.
Speaker 6 (51:51):
I think they just bringing them along slowly, not just throw.
Speaker 5 (51:56):
To the wolves.
Speaker 6 (51:57):
Align him to get acclimated, learn that everything. So you
don't have to think, because you play your best. When
it was at Colorado, he already knew what to do.
That's why he was playing his best. Yes, I don't
have to think. I can just go play and react.
So once he gets to the point over there in Jacksonville,
been there at a little bit more on his plate, Okay,
we go, you know, we got this. Okay, he got
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f Okay, now we can teach him z a little
more on his plate. Okay, boom, he got z. Now
we can then defensively. Okay, he's a little bit more.
He's a little comfortable. Now, boom. Maybe we're gonna put
him in on first and second downs instead of waiting
until third. It's just a little rep just bring them
along slow. So I think it's kind of smart, smart
than the way they're using them right now. I think
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there'll be certain situations, certain circumstances where they will need
that advantage, that mismatch that he does create on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
I think the thing is ojo is that.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Look, you know when you was a kid and you like,
give me someone no eat what's on your plate. Let
him eat what is on his plate, Let him get
this position, let him master that, and then as he
starts to master that. I don't care if anybody says
pro offenses are more complicated than college offenses. Pro defenses
are more complicated than college defenses. That's just the way
it is. And the athletes are better, just better, I
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don't care. Look, and we believe the SEC and the
Big Ten is as close to the NFL.
Speaker 5 (53:20):
As we get.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Guess what, there are a lot of guys in the
SEC and the Big ten that don't make it in
the NFL. All those guys that come out there on Sunday,
they made it. And there are a lot of guys
that played in that played in the conferences that didn't
make it. So you're talking about the best of the best.
And that's the thing, O Joe. It's not enough for
him to just say I played both sides.
Speaker 5 (53:42):
Of the football.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
People want to see he won the Heisman Trophy because
he was a league on both sides of the ball.
If he's not a leade on both sides of the ball, Ojoe,
what are we doing? Let's be all the way with chat.
What are we doing? The thing about the suv, oh Joe?
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That is what made the suv so popular, Ojo. I
can hire my kids in it, and I can pull
up to it. I can go hey, I can be
in the carpool line, or I can go to I
can go to a black cod dinner.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
I can do both.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I can drive in the summertime a I can be
at Miami and drive my SUV. But guess what, I
can go to Minnesota and also do it. So if it,
if it doesn't give me that kind of value. What
are we doing, Ojo?
Speaker 5 (54:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (54:37):
But but another thing too, also, you took him so high, right,
you traded to get it right. So we're going here
the week four. Now, I understand it's a long season.
What you add on to that plate. We need to
keep on.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
We need to keep on adding and and and see
that a little bit more week to week.
Speaker 5 (55:03):
And I think that's what they're gonna do. Ojoe.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I mean, I think he played this was the first
time that he played more defense than he played offense.
But I think he was still around sixty plays. They
just we just haven't seen him getting the M zone.
We say, haven't seen him get any interceptions what we
routinely saw at Colorado. Man, this is this is the NFL.
(55:27):
Y'all realize this is the best of the best. This
is the top zero zero zero, zero point one percent.
That's what that is.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Bro. I don't think. I don't think people get it.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I think the thing is that people just people actually thought,
oh Joe, he was gonna just walk in there and
do what in the NFL what he did at Colorado.
And then if you say, oh Joe, like man Ojo said,
I got eleven years of this thing. Man, I think,
ain't that easy? I got fourteen. I said, man, it's
not that easy. Oh y'all hating. No, we're just telling
you what is gonna take to play at that level.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
That didn't even Time didn't even play both ways.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
And Time was as talent as anybody that's ever stepped
foot in the NFA.
Speaker 5 (56:15):
All the time. I mean they had a package.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
Time was a did what he did defensively, and then
he would come in with a package. Now he played
a little bit more when I think Michael got hurt
one year or the number two receiver got hurting, so
he played more.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
Same thing with Champ, same thing with Champ in Washington, Yes,
same way, yep.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
But for me personally, I don't think they're misusing Traves.
I think they're building him up slowly and slowly and
get putting more and more on his plate. And the
more he can eat, the more he can digest. And
we'll just keep going like going like that until we
build it out. We don't need, Hey, this thing, I
don't We don't need to build this overnight. We don't
need to try to have it learned x y x
z F. We don't need to do all that. Hey
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you got the slot. Oh you're playing, Oh you playing,
you're playing outside, you're playing inside, you playing die. We
don't need to do all that, O Joe. There will
be a time that it'll be second nature. But I'm
sure there's a lot going on in this plate. But
it's oh Joe, it's hard because to get good at
something you do it all the time over and over.
(57:25):
It's repetition. Yeah, it's it's it's repetition. In the funny
so he go from he go from a standing split
to now he's in the back betal.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
And the funny thing.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
He won't be the the Travis Hunter were used to
seeing that we saw in Colorado. He won't be that
into the NFL. Until he knows everything. He's still think
he's still thinking, I know it's football at the end
of the day, but he's still thinking. It's your rookie year.
You're going in the week four, You're still thinking. So
they're putting you in advantageous positions where you don't have
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to think.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
You just got to play. That's why you play.
Speaker 6 (58:02):
That's wreate is so small right now, so all you
have to do is just play and let your God
give him the ability in what you've learned so far
take over.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yes, I mean give him a year two. Let's see
where he's at halfway through the season. Let's see where
he's at at the end of the season. Let's see
where he's at year two, year three. And it's so funny,
but in order in order for this to make sense,
he's gonna have to be lead on both levels because
you took him so how you took him with the
number two pick in the draft. Number two pick in
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the draft is supposed to be franchise alters. Yeah, and
they can't no matter what position. No matter what position
it is, he's supposed to be, franchise.
Speaker 6 (58:40):
Can't use him in that position yet because franchise franchise
altering is usually held for the quarterback position. Outside of
elite skilled players. At most of the time, it's the
receiver receiver dB. Well DB's come around every so often,
but receiver, quarterback or running back franchise altering. But he
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has played isn't full enough for him to be franchise
altering right now?
Speaker 5 (59:07):
Correct? Not?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's hard. I mean, it's like I don't in him.
I understand that he wants to do things that nobody's
ever done. And it's been a long time since we
got to have a guy that this talent. We saw
Champ Bailey do it, Miles Jack did it as a
running back and a linebacker at UCLA.
Speaker 5 (59:31):
But it ain't easy. It ain't easy to be elite.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Because with the number two pick, you're supposed to be elite,
and he wants to be elite on both sides of
the football. And now you know you asked Tim, Tim said, Look,
I had I devoted what I devoted to being a
wide receiver like I devoted to dB. Ain't no question
in my mind. I get a gold jacket as a
wide receiver and I believe it. I believe it because
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he was just so huge, so gifted. He God just
gave that man so much ability. But people see a
lot of times, don't Joe, when God gives somebody ability,
they make it seem like they don't work, time worked,
time studied. But see you like man God, no, no, yes,
God blessed him. But the greatest are when God blessed
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you and you're the hardest worker. You get a Tom Brady,
you get a Dion Sanders, you get a Kobe Bryant.
You get a Michael Jordan, you get a Lebron James,
you get a Griffy Junior. That's what you get. You
get a Barry Bonds, you get that. That's what you
get when you take a Tiger Woods Serena, Serena Williams.
(01:00:43):
That's what you get. When God kiss you with God
given ability and work.
Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Ethic, you're dangerous. And the funny thing about it is
he already got the work ethic too. Not only do
we have the work ethic, but he God damn believe
he can do it.
Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
He believed he could do it. That's part of it.
Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
That's I was just gonna say that, that's part of it.
Once you believe you could do something, oh boy, it's up.
Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
It's up.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Then
Brian Dabau named Jackson dark QUB one for the rest
of the season. Here's what Dave Balls had to say
earlier today on the decision.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So, in terms of the quarterback situation, I met both
with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately, and Russ was nothing
but a pro, which I would expect them to be.
It's my decision going with Jackson. We're gonna get him
ready to play this week and the remainder of the season.
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He's going to do everything he can. Russ will be
the backup. The conversations that I've had with these young
men will be private, The details will be private. All
I can tell you is we're going with Jackson and
we're getting ready to play, so I'm not going to
add too much to it. Those are private conversations. It's
my decision, and we're going with Jackson.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
O Joe, We're gonna go ahead here. Russ's okay, Okay.
Here's what Russ had to say about the demotion.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, let me hear that. Let me hear that. Let
me and my dog, Let me and my dog.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I think that for me just staying ready, you know,
knowing what I'm capable of, Like I said, life is
about response, and uh, you know, I can control two things,
and that's my attitude and my gratitude. And you know,
I think it's the other thing I can controls my
work ethic and my preparation to be ready when my
name's called again, because I know what I can do,
and I know, you know, I know I'm gonna do
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it again.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So that's that's what I'm excited about now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Chat just saying I ain't gonna rage baite. I ain't
gonna do no kind of baiting. When I told you guys,
what was gonna happen, you don't know what you're talking about.
They got even with my guy, even my co host,
the man been with me.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
For two years. We've been through thinking thing. I said.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh to me, I say, look at the way the
man playing. Now I'm telling you what's gonna happen. I say,
over under eight weeks, I said, Russ is gonna start,
Jackson darr is gonna be the start, the backup, and
then James will be the third string quarterback.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Nah nahna. Everybody everybody was greed with you.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I said, Ojo, I can see the way this thing
is playing out because they drafted this guy. And at
the end of the day, the one guy that can
save my job is not Russ, It's not Jameis Winston.
Who's the one guy that can save Brian day ball job?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Ojo?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Did you hear what you just said?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I love that you went that route. Who's the one
guy get saved my job? The guy that I wanted,
the guy that I drafted. But you you throw quarterback
out there right in the middle of the season and
the worst part of the season for them schedule wise,
based on the opponents that they have to play.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
What happens when he doesn't play with but here what
happened with don't play with what happened?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
If you stick to your guns and you say, once
you make this decision, huh, you can't turn back.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He said, He's the quarterback for the rest of the year,
for the rest of you, So you can't. You absolutely correct,
And I wouldn't expect them to turn about and go back.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
But here's the thing, though, O Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Even if you lose too many games and Jackson Dark
comes into the plays, well, somebody else is gonna be
coaching the next year anyway. So you've got you've got
to go with him.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
You was hey, listen, you was going. You was going
right where I was going. Because I'm gonna say most
of the time, I'm thinking it's a quarterback. And listen,
Jackson Darty showed flashes of braids obviously in the preseason,
but again that's preseason. You know how the defense is
a very very vanilla. I think if he plays well enough,
if two things can happen. If you can play well,
you can play bad. If you play bad, the ball
you got in there. If he plays well and shows
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what we already with flashes, what we've already seen.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Hell, you still might be fired.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
True.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
If Jackson dark plays well, I think it's gonna buy
the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Sometimes might be right, I personally, now this is what
we know. I think we saw he got the job
in New York because of how world he worked with
Josh Allen. But we see Josh Allen after he leaves
still go win an MVP.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Okay, right, he has a Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Indiana Jones looks better away from New York than he
did in New York. So what so so, how much
are we to deduce that that day Ball might not
be the quarterback whisper that we really thought he was
because Josh Allen is still playing at the MVP level.
He's the MVP front runner as we currently speak. And
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you look at Indiana Jones what he's doing and with
the Colts, So he I don't like, I said, I don't.
And Ojo we talked about his Sunday. I said, Ojoe,
if it's me, I'm gonna start him against the Chargers
at home. I'm not gonna start him on the road
in a hostile environment. I'm gonna start it because at
least it will buy them some time. Yeah, but I'm
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starting him Son I was gonna. I said, I'll start
him Sonnay against the Chargers and then I'm gonna go
from there. But I knew this was gonna come sooner
rather than later, just based on look and it's look,
it's never just one guy's fault. You can't make twenty
two changes, Ojoe. You can make what's the one change
that I think can significantly.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Impact the game.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They believe it's the quarterback position. Now, the offensive line
is gonna have to play better. Everybody's gonna have to
play better. Pick up their plate. You know, there are
some mistakes that was made on Russ uh and I
think you know him throwing the ball out of the
end Z on the fourth down didn't do himself any
favors throwing a couple of couple of uh picks. But
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like you, like you said, oh Joe, it's not all
on Russ, but the quarterback. They get way too much
credit and they take way too much blame.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I feel I feel bad for us.
I feel bad for us. But this is what happens
when you're when you're towards the end of your career
and you're going from team to team. Russ is a
great guy. Russ is a great guy. He's a he's
a professional.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He's the ultimate professional at the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
He's similar to what if you would if you were
to have a comparison to Russell Wilson when it comes
to the receiver that does everything the right way as
as a professional. I look at last as Gerald, you know,
when it comes to all thy every everything. So for us,
you know, I feel bad for him, God for man,
one of God and children, says all the right things,
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does all the right things.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
He works hard. But obviously now it's in Jackson dark team. Again.
I told you young I would be. I would be in.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
New York, right, So I'm going to night. So who
you who you think I saw at the at the
inner Miami game, and I told you I won't see him. Neighbors,
the league, neighbors. So we said they have a conversation.
I noticed the cameras are watching, so they can't read.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
No lifts.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I say, I'll flip my back and turn to me
and I ask the questions. That the questions that's necessary.
You know, how you feeling things not going well? How
do you feel about not getting the ball? What do
they need to do to be able to get you
the ball? Putting you in different positions? And obviously we
had a conversation, very lengthy conversation, I about thirty minutes,
you know, on the field, on the pitch before the
game started. And obviously as any as any receiver feels.
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And once I won't say anything, burbad him put me
in positions to make the players. I'm gonna make them.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's it. Put throw me the ball. That's it. It's
pretty simple.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
It's not it's not cold, that's it. T mem positions
to make the players and put the ball in the
area in the vicinity. If anywhere I can reach it,
I'm gonna catch it. It was simple as that, simple
as that. Obviously some other things, but I can't diswose those.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But that's it, that's it.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I'm all right.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
And then he of course he say, it don't matter
who's playing quarterback, right, that doesn't matter, not not to me.
I'm him.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I got to go do my job.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But in order for me to do my job, I
need people to put me in position to do my job. Yeah,
well you say I need you, I need you to
clean the gutters. Well I'm an clean the gutter, but
you damn better give me a loner so I can
get my ass up there. You can't tell me to
do something. Joy, then don't look if I can win
damn near any war if you give me the the
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artillery to go fight said wars. You want me to
go compete, give me opportunities, put me in position so
I can compete.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And that's all he's saying.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
He's like, look, yeah, who wouldn't want to have a
top five quarterback? But we know there's thirty two teams
in every quarterback situation is different. But what makes those
guys unique is that their coordinators put them in position.
Jerry got put in position, Randy and Chris Carter than
the Marvin Harrison and Lam Fitzgerald, all the receivers that
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has these numbers, the Pro bowls, the all pros got.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Put in position. No matter what you think about, who's
your office.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
The coordinator Zee Brokowski, bose you was for a couple
of years, barbera house barb barbaracause.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It doesn't have to be a Kyle Shanahan or Sean
mcvaig or this or that. All you have to do
is understand the pieces and move them compriately.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Hey, you notice what you just said. Understand the pieces
that you have, understanding your strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Because the coordinators not having egos and saying this is
my scheme, this is what I'm gonna run it, I'm
gonna position and you have to get open based on
my philosophy, my ideologies, and my scheme.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The more creative, the more creative coordinators.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Whoever, the whoever, the goddamn lions off the coredator is
the and reads the cows, Well, I know what he's
good at. I know he's not good at, so I'm
not gonna put him in that position for him to
get exposed. Everybody plays receiver, but everybody can't get open
the same.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Some people you gotta stab them. Some people you gotta
move them, some people you gotta put them in. Some
people it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
See our job unless unless.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Unless, unless you're one of those tierwe receivers where all
the all the what's the world on the all the
things that the makeup of being a great receiver, they're
really good at all of them. Like Jamar Chases, I
see Malik Neighbors as a Tier one receiver where you
don't need much creativity. I can get what I need
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to get done off the muscle because I'm like that.
It's only a few of them too. It ain't a handful. Oh,
it's only a handful. And I'm not getting into that
because I don't want to piss nobody off.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
But I watched, I watched.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I think the thing is oho is that when you
look at these guys, is that my job was easy
playing for Mike because I know Mike's aggressive, So Mike's
gonna take chances were unnecessarily like some courting that is
gonna play it strictly by the book, Mike going for
the juggler, and I know that he's gonna call plays
a quarterly, so now I can.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Do things a quarterly. M hmm.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Look like I said, quarterbacks take to get a lot
of credit, far too much to get far too much blame.
But I saw I saw this coming. I saw this
coming when Jackson Dart played well. Oho, and we had
our final show. After Jackson Dart played well, I said
over under, I really wanted to say, the first quarter,
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the first four games, I'm like, oh, Joe, this kid playing,
this kid unless Russ blows it out of the water,
hold it off.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Hell, he blew it out. He blew it out the
water in the Dace game. After that is game, I thought,
oh yeah, he just brought himself some time. He brought
himself at least three four, five games. And then after
there was that, they just played.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh. I mean, it's the Chiefs, it's the cheese.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But see, people don't look at the chief if we
looked at it, if the three years ago chiefs, I said, Okay,
you got a point, Oho, you got a point.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So struggling struggling chiefs don't count die.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Hell and and and I think the first game they
played the Commanders. Look right, he bought he basically he
bought them. There was hoping, let me tell you, looking
at it from from my perspective and having my years
of experience, they were hoping Russ by them a little
bit more time, O Joe.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I agree with you. I don't. They didn't want him
to play this soon. They was hoping that.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They were hoping Russ could buy them some time, at
least half a season, give us half a season. Yeah,
but at this current pace, Dave Ball wasn't gonna have
half a season.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
They're gonna end up. They're gonna end up firing him.
He's the boy. It was just it was, it wasn't
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
This is the thing what I don't like.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Russell Wilson is not in a position to where he
used to be, where he can elevate a team where
he's a quarterback, elevate the team regard regard, regardless to the.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Pieces that's around him.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Now he's in the position as a quarterback who's somewhat
still adequate, but needs to play around him to elevate.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yes, he needs words before, O Joe. He can get
away with less than ideal situations he didn't need, and
he didn't need the Great Wall of China to be
his offensive line. He didn't need he didn't need two
three four wide receivers in the tight end.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
He didn't need the lights.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Out, even though he had that in Seattle. But now
he needs more. As we get older, we need more.
Tom went got more, Peyton Went got more. Aaron Rodgers
he need, he needed more. And that's what happens. As
we get older, we need more help. So now where
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we could elevate everyone else, we need someone to help
elevate us.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, I think somewhat too. It's not it's not fair.
You look at the situations in which he went to
he went.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
He went to Denver. I'm not saying Denver.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
There's anything wrong with Denver, but I'm just saying it
wasn't to me an ideal situation for him.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Similar to when Peyton Manning went to Denver, it was
a different game, situation.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Different when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, it was
a different ball game. I think the situations that he
went to weren't ideal for him to continue to have
set success the way we're used to seeing Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Success I think, and this is what I'm saying. Sometimes
the devil you know is better than the one you
don't see. Russ didn't realize whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Whoa whoa You ain't whoa whoa?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Hold on right there, stay right?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Oh what a were you cooking? Hold on? Hold on?
Oh I'm using that city.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one
you don't see.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Russ didn't realize how great of a situation he had
in Seattle. You see, he wanted more, He wanted more control,
he wanted more input, He wanted more of this and
more of that. He goes somewhere and he didn't have
He didn't have what he had in Seattle. He didn't
realize how good he actually had it in Seattle. Sometimes
we don't realize just how good we have something until
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it's taken away from us, and then you actually realize, See,
we take for granted the ability here and the ability
to smell, and the ability of.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
The taste, or have all the uses of our limbs.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Then when you don't have such, you realize, like damn,
you don't realize, how how did how the hell did
I survive without a telephone? This loan y'all the hell
did they? Ooh, I couldn't imagine not being able to
watch TV. I can't imagine not being able to go
to a restaurant and just work, order whatever I want. Right,
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So he had that situation and he wanted more. Now
he got he got financial security. Yeah, you general for
a couple of generations. Oh yeah, but at the end
of the day, we haven't thought of we have it.
Russ really haven't consistently looked like Seattle Russ since he
left Seattle.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we understand that we played the game,
so we understand situations when you change when you leave it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
When you leave a team.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Like that, that's great as they were offensively and especially defensively,
you would hope and want ideal situations.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Swimme to what you left from but didn't like.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Most of the time, it doesn't happen like that, going
on from going for Peyton Manning, going from Indy and
then going to Denver already stacked team, super ready team.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
All who was missing was a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
The goddamn the jamis went to keep the Tampa and
Tom Brady coming into a team that is already ready
to established.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We just need a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I said, you have to understand because I was look
in Denver. I'm very close to because all my people,
a lot of my people were still there, and I
would go back and I watched how Peyton ingratiated himself.
He was not stand offish, took time for everybody. He
was Peyton Manning. You do realize at the time that
he came to Denver, Oh, Joe, he was a fourth
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He was a four.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Time league MVP. Absolutely he was.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He was already a five or six time First Team
All Pro quarterback. No quarterback has more First Team All pros,
more MVPs than Peyton Manning. But you wouldn't know that
by being around him and talking to it. And then
you watch him in the meeting rooms, and you watch
him on the practice field, and now you understand. He
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demands that you play at a level and you gotta
match him.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You got to.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Tom Brady forces you to match that because people watch
him and they see him if he's working that hard.
Nothing less is accepted to me. Absolutely, everybody is. Everybody
leads differently, but everybody can't be a great leader. There's
a you got corporals and you got lieutenants, and you
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got one star and two star and three star and
four star. They don't do five star generals anymore. They've
only been five of those in the history of what
we have the military. But and Russ handled it like
I thought he would. He ain't hurt man, You take
it my job, and I got a stand up.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Do realize I got him throw how many touchdowns a
Russ throwing for? Damn near four hundred? He's got to
be well over three. Came in the league in twenty third,
so this is his fourteenth season. So he came in
in twenty twelve. He's with RG three and Andrew Louck,
so he's got three undre and fifty three touchdowns. Remember
the guys you know got three und fifty three touchdown
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Stand on the sideline and hold the clipboard with the
ear head set in the ear. Those guys start until
they don't want to start it until it's time for
them to lead the league.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Look at the guys. Look at the guys that have
thrown for.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Three hundred plus touchdowns, none of them never been never
got demoted like that. You look at Matt Ryan, you
look at Ben Roethlisberger, you look at Philip Rivers, John
l Way, Damn Marino, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
That's eight.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I can talk fake up off the top of my head,
Johnny U Ninus. Now obviously Johnny ended up going you know,
he didn't do very well when he got when he
left Indy and ended up going to the Chargers. But
it hurts, and you gotta put on a brave face,
you do because a lot of times people want to
see you crack and Russ and Russ and Russ is
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not wired like that.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Russey's gonna remain.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Positive and I'm happy when I'm very happy with the
way he's handled this whole situation because deep down inside
he knew Ojo, you go to a place and they
draft a.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Quarterback, you ready know what time it is.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
When Tom went to Tawn talk, did they take a
quarterback in the first round?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
No, And so they were just like, hey, t t
t t tik tik, and you gotta fight because you
know they want to play it. That's not that he's
not a decoration, that's not something that you just prop up. No,
they wanted to play him. It's not like a situation
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like Alex Smith had they drafted Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
He knew Patrick Mahons. He said, I got one year.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There's nothing I can do to keep them from playing
Patrick Mahomes next year. My job is to try to
keep them from playing his ass this year. And they
went eleven and five. Boom, they lost. They lost till
the Titans had an eighteen to three lead.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
They ended up losing.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But we'll see what Jackson Dark got going against the Chargers,
who played as well as anybody in the in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So three and old, I like, go ahead, good.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm still stuck. I know.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
We talked about Jackson Dark, we talked about Russell Wilson
and the Giants and all that, but I'm still stuck in
the god damn quote you live with Now. That's when
I haven't heard before. I heard my grandma, my grandfather
say all type of stuff. But I'm using that the
devil you know is sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Better when you don't. Who had this to the pamphlet? God?
I mean, boy, it's not an easy role that the
Giants have to go. And I don't know if you
were a Sunday we went over the schedule, so Sunday
they played the Giants excuse me, the Chargers, and then
they're on the road October fifth at New Orleans. They're
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home on a short week Thursday against the Eagles. Then
they go at Denver, at Philly, home to the Niners,
at Chicago, home to the Packers, at Detroit, at New
England by week.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Hey, but that's tough, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Michael Parsons doesn't expect any booze when he returns this
Dallas on Sunday. I think they're gonna give me a
good round of applause. There's no hard feelings there, at
least from me. It's going to be a great atmosphere.
When asked about this feeling towards Jerry Jones, not a
welcome back tribute. There are a lot of things I
consider disrespectful throughout the process, but I wouldn't say the
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tribute it's one of them.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I just think there's hard feelings maybe there for them,
but for me. I'm happy where I'm at and we
got a good football team, so I guess I can
receive my tribute when I win.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
O Jo, we both returned played.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Against our former team we invested so much into Obviously,
you tell me all the time. I was just there
for like a weekend at Baltimore. But uh, did you
go back? Did you play? And did you play Cincinnati?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
No, no I did. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
You have to think once I left Cincinnati, I only
had that.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Right right right, Yeah, I was done. I was done.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, they gave me love. I mean I when I
went back to Denver. I went back to Denver the
second year because first year, Ohoe, we beat him in
the first round of the playoffs in the wild card game.
So we beat him. And then the following year we
went back. Crowd cheered every time I caught the ball.
They introduced the offense. Crowd cheered, I go back. Then
I go back to Denver and we go to Baltimore.
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Gave me love both times. So I think the thing
is is that for me, there was really no hostility
one way or another.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
There's really no.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Protracted contracts and going back and forth asking for a trade.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
X Y and z uh.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But I told you when he laid on that table,
I said, oh Yo, that ain't a good look.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Though, Yes, I told you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
The funny thing back, especially when it comes to the
Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys fan base, there's no hostility towards Michael
Parson because you know, everything was out of his Yes,
everything's out of control.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So everything that was.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Said and and and in somewhat of an almost an
unfair way that you don't think an owner would say.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
He can maybe think it.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
But actually Jerry Jones one of one of the few
owners who gets away with saying the things that other
owners think.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And he said it out loud. He didn't care.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
So if anything, when he does come back to goddamn Dallas,
there's no reason for the fans to do it at
any If anybody's being booed is you know.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, for me, I was Look, I was in I
was endeavored for ten years. The first time, Oh Joe
and come back and you know we had won you know, uh,
back to back Super Bowls. I was you know, went
to seven consecutive Pro Bowls, all Pro and all that stuff,
and went to one Pro Bowl in Baltimore. But I
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think the thing is is that the fans really appreciated
how hard I work. I didn't complained. I just came
to work, showed up, did my job, and I left.
I had only had got along great with my teammates.
And I think Michael got along. Look I don't know
the inner and outso but I don't know, But I
just think the thing is the last, like the last
for two or three months, oh show with this contract talk.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And you know, look at the end of the day,
those fans, they're Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Now you might find a sprinkle here there are Michael
Parsons fans, but those are Cowboys fans. And more times
than not, you know how fans are fans are gonna
side with the team.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
That's that's just the way it is.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Well, listen, you also have something that have common sense
and understand how things are working. Some understand the business,
some don't. Some only worried about who is a part
of my Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Team that's all about.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
But then some understand the business and understand how it
works and able to separate the two being a fan
and understanding how the team, how the team works, especially
when to come down to sometimes they should be used
to it anyway, usual anyway when it comes to their
star players, because they've had that, they've had to deal
with it for so many years.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yeah, I think that it's just funny going back.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Standing on the opposite side, staring across over there for
so for ten years though, Joe, I'm still on this
side looking across the field. Now I'm over I'm across
the field, staring back across the field.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
And the same thing when I went to Baltimore is different.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You go in different way, you know, all of a sudden,
Now I'm taking a bus to the stadium.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I'm used to driving myself to the stadium.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So it's it's uh, it's gonna be different. It's gonna
be different. Uh. And it's so new, I mean like
only four years in Dallas. I mean most people when
you leave and go back to play another team, it's
years and years.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
You know, Peyton, when.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Tom played New England, think about how long Tom Tom
had played twenty season in New England.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
He goes back, you know, first year. Uh an he plays.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So we get that, but it's like, man, four years,
that's really damn that's quick. But you don't sometimes don't
show you don't get that. That's out of your control.
We don't always get the control. And look at us
an athlete, we try to control what we can control
because and that's what we're good at. Ojo, because look
I knew if I work my tail off, Okay, good
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thing is gonna happen. Because I can control that. I
can control how hard I work. When it comes to
things like what happened with mil that was out of
its control.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Yeah, absolutely, And matter of fact, when it comes to
things that we can control, the one thing that we
can control, we can control our production.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And what we do and the work we put it.
Most of the time, if you put the work in,
the results are going to show. Career Sundays.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Two things we can't control is we can't control injuries.
You can't control getting older. That's it you want to do.
You want to do as much as you can in
between that time and trying to sure you don't get hurt.
But once you hit like thirty and thirty one, the
game start to play the game.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Listen, once you hit.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Thirty and thirty one, thirty two, thirty three, they start
playing the games. Oh well, your targets start start decreasing,
and they start, you know, we need to talk to
you about your production and a man, come.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
On, but I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I mean tributes normally mad, that's for like the best
of the best.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
I mean, you won championship here at MVP. You know
what I'm saying, Like that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You're a Defensive Player of the Year, you spend some time,
I mean after four years. And look, and this is
not a knock on Michael. Michael's a phenomenal player. But
you know when MM it came back, and it came back,
he was all time lead rushier.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
If it was an MVP and it was won three
Super Bowls, Tom going back to New England, Peyton, going
back to Indy's, it's levels to I mean of a
video tribute, everybody's not gonna get a video tribune even
if you play ten years, fifteen years of a place,
every I mean, it all depends on who you were,
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what you did. If you're a fifteen year special Teams player,
you're probably not.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Maybe if you're Matthew Slater, you'll probably get one. If
you're Adam Vannittieri Vinitieria, you'll probably get one. But but look,
if I'm Mike, I ain't worried about that. Like Michael said, look,
we win the game, that's my tribute, and I'm coming.
You know he coming. O Joe, you know he's been
working on a move He's like, because well we're there
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on your let me tell you what you did when
you were going to get your guys in practice? You know,
if if this was a real game, what would happen? Yeah,
because I'm saying, bro, you do realize this practice, but
if I actually played you in a real city a.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Situation, right right right?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Brom cooking y'all? Oh yeah, for real?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Yeah, and listen, you know you know a list one
thing about it, especially in practice, that them boys made
me better.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I remember all my dv's name by hard. Remember Jeff Burns.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I think you wouldn't to day right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Jeff Burr's.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Leon Hall Tory, Jane Toy played with me, he played
with me and Denver. Yeah, man, listen j Joe, Jonathan Joseph.
I'm it's some more.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Pac Man he un But in practice, oh man, I'm
talking about listen.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
I got mine. They got me some time too. But
I know who got I know who won most of that,
hey boy.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
With pac Man, Me and pac Man in practice? Oh
my god.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
But it look, I won't you took about work, but we.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
We we was out there working, and I won't feedback work.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I'm out there working like I'm a seventh round pick
on man, Marvin, and you had they had to throw
me out of practice. Why the hell is you taking
the scout team?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Raps?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Man?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Get out the people wait.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Because I knew I wanted to go against my number ones.
I'm not gonna get no real work unless I'm going
against my number ones.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
They had. Let let me tell you how bad it.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Well, I know I'd been playing around a lot, but
when it came time to play football, I might have
been fun and talking trash and doing all that entertainment.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But when it came to that game and being.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
A student of the game, I told you, but hey, oh,
preseason they talked about how many snappers were gonna play
ship You're gonna call the time out to get me
out the game. But that, but that was that was
so much fun to me, man, just looking at Marvin
face when all the ones came out, all the ones
that come out, and I stand on the field and
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act like it's something wrong with me until the second
team come in and forced Marvin to call the time out. Man, Listen,
I'm here to play football. Man, I ain't worried about
no injuries. You mean, I'm don't don't try to protect
me from getting hurt preseason.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm here, I played football.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I went through two two weeks of training camp, two
a days, and now you're telling me I only get
to play one series one drive, No, sir.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's in a situation like that, Michael's gonna look, Mike
is gonna say, this is why I was worth forty
seven million this game. This is why the package gave
up two first rounders and Kenny Clark and gave me
forty seven million dollars. This is why. Yeah, you see
what I did today, This is why.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Make it make it absolutely matter of fact.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
And speaking of forty seven million, he gonna show that
all seas long, especially as they continue to work him in,
allow him to get more reps, allowed to get his
legs up under him, you know, once he gets in
football shape because he missed so much time, you know,
missing training camp.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So here we only we we only were in.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Week foo, yeah, week four, and uh you know, hey,
it's gonna take him a while. I mean a couple
of couple of weeks from being in in in tip
top football shape. Oh yeah, right now that you know
he's specialist right now, but hey, him and Rashan Garrett
pretty soon, because Rashawn Garrett is for the lead league
in Sack.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Pretty soon, they're gonna start.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
We got half, Rashaan got four a half.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You see what happened when he come on Nightcap. See
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
That ain't number God, That ain't number of God's work.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Everybody come on Nightcap, have success with militia with Melissa
Jefferson was left with.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
In Tokyo to what three oh three of them?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
The four one.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Three goals.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Everybody come on Nightcap having success.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
That's it, ain't it ain't a coincidence. It is not.
You need should be Hey, tightest, Titus.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Tightus, make me pity, Hey, let me let me get
let me get tightest for a week.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
No, no, no, you don't know what. First of all,
you don't know how to handle You ain't been around doll.
You don't know how to handle them.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Come on, I haven't had dog.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Now he's different.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
No, he good, he's good.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I'm I'm a dog. I'm a dog. Not that kind
of dog I'm saying. I'm like, I'm a dog. I
become one with the animal. They used to call me
the dog whisperer back in back in ninety two.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
No, oh, Joe, you, I just want to take him
to the dog park so he intact.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I know he attacked man.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yes, so you're not supposed to have you can't have
him there.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
He needs faded. Okay, I'm gonna get he. I'm gonna
get the homie.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Some boy. People assue you.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
No, no, no, I mean I got it. It's a lady.
I know she got a poodle. That's heat.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He'll be a b with them. Yeah, tell him, Uh,
you might stay here with dad. The Falcons fire wide
receiver coach Ike Hellyard one day after being routed by
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the NFC rivals Carolina Panthers. Offensive game game coordinator t J.
Yates will assume TJ.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Yas that's the.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Quarterback, wasn't a quarterback for the Texans, will assume hear
your's duties for the team. Offensive coordinator Zach Robinson will
call played from the sideline moving forward. Robinson call played
from the coaches booth since he joined the team in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Hey, I'm confused. Is that supposed to be a distraction
of some sort? What's the point of what's the point
of finding the receiver coach.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
I don't know. The quarterback played terrible.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Yeah, some some I mean that that doesn't make any
sense to me, especially this.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think that name's had for me.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, I don't get that. I don't know. Maybe that
was something internally internally that was going on, but I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
If you shake your things up, I don't understand how
to put it. So what guys running the wrong round?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
So?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I mean, what was going on?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
They got into an argument, the coordinator and the position culture,
the head coach and the position coach got into it.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
I agree with you, this don't seem right.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
It might it might have been something like that. It
might have been something like that, and it had to
be some issues going on where but somebody might have
been arguing, because I mean, find anybody. Week three, come on, man,
come on.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Panther was blown out by the Panthers, blew out the
facts thirty to nothing. Michael Pennix Jr. Had his worst
game of his career young career, throwing two interceptions. He
hasn't thrown a touchdown to a receiver or a tight
end this season. In fact, he has only one touchdown
past this season. That's to be John Robinson, Oh, Joe.
I mean, look, we've all had receiver coaches. I'm just
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trying to figure out how much can a receiver coach
be responsible for the offense.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
He's not, he's not. He's not responsible for that, absolutely not.
He has one job to do. That's the coach receivers
the different Make sure you get from point A to
point B as fast as you can and catch the
goddamn ball. That's it.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
That's all he can do.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
And make sure you're well prepared, knowing the game plan
and what you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Yeah, I'm shocked.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
That's why I know it had to be something else.
Something must have went on that sideline that or maybe
behind closed doors where it didn't sit well and they
let brother brother. Here you go, the great I just
mentioned the other night too when were talking about the
Gator yea Gators.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, let me tell you this, there's gonna be a
lot of other people fire that quarterback don't start playing better.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Oh yeah, I hear. You might have been the first
to go.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But let that quarterback play better, quarterback coach mm hmm,
the office coordinator.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Yeah. And in fact, mister.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Now you got me curious. I wanted to know wody
was fired. I'm for to be.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Nosy because we thought the Falcons were gonna be good.
I'm not saying I'm not not for a second on you.
I thought they were going to the super Bowl, but
I thought they would be better than what they were
last year.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You look at the weapons that they got.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
They got a Night they got Mooney, and they got
Drake Drake London Clod, they got John Robinson, they got
our Yere, they got a nice little they got a
nice little squad.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Good weapons.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
With those weaponry, you can't get shut out with those reape.
But if your quarterback play like some stir fry, you can't. Yeah,
he played bad late with Bro. You know you Bro,
how you gonna stay? How you're gonna be on this
side looking at this half of the field, it'd all
of a sudden come back and throw to the flat blind.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Nah, you can't do that. That's going another way. That's going
the way, that's going the other way. Every time, if anything,
if if anything, you read one and two. If one
and two ain't that, then you go to the flat
right away, because if you take any more time than that.
The corner they was they was in two the corner.
He draps.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
He ain't gonna now where anyway, he ain't got he
ain't got nothing to threaten him deep, So why would
why would he go deep?
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Exactly exactly? Show wasn't So.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, I don't get I don't I don't get this one.
This is this this move befuddles me because I've never heard,
like I said, not maybe something happened. We don't know
all the intricacys of what transpired, and something had to
have happened. Ain't no way you believe that you got
shut out thirty to nothing, and that responsibility falls on
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the receivers coach.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Mm hmm, the receivers coach.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Hey, I might have I might have cussed somebody out. Man,
you might have cussed out the office coordinator.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Okay, now maybe maybe maybe that makes sense, probably even
if after two weeks, I mean after three weeks, I mean,
this is this is where we are right now. Yeah,
so that now you said we're in a panic mode.
Yeah you you you you set us up for panic
when we shouldn't be panic.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
You should be calm.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Yeah, right, shoult, I'm nosy. I just I just take
ray race, like what what what happened back.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I'm nosy.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, this does a if this is a I'm surprised
by this. I didn't think Atlanta was a super Bowl
contending team, but I did think there would be much
better than what they did, what they showed last year.
And it's not a good look. O yo with you
guy that you know your starter you three in week three,
(40:10):
you already had to put him on the US I say, nah,
so we've seen enough.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah that's not good.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
No mm hm.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
And you let you let him go out on the
sword too, Yeah, sure, let you let him go out
on the sword, especially once you've already made that move
that you are a quarterback of the future. There's no
reason that Kirk Cousins should be going in that game, No,
none at all.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Not Kirk not Cousins believed that he got a chance
to get back in.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
There basically, and he's a good and Kurt is a
good sport for actually going in the game.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
He is, I mean what I mean, Hey, first, Cousin
ain't trying to give him no money back. Why am
I gonna get, you know, conduct detrimental by not going
back into the game, and they get takes some of
my money I'm gonna get all this money you know
much Cousins has made. Oh yeah, I ain't get y'all
none of that change. Yeah, i ain't give y'all none
of that back. I'm gonna get all that. As a
(41:06):
matter of fact, y'all still only about ten twelve next
year gonna get that too, might get some mo Yeah,
this this makes them sense, So Joe, Look like I said,
we didn't. We didn't think the fact was gonna be
world beater. But we saw some of the promise that
they showed last year at the end of the season
when Panis came in. Uh, guys were getting the ball
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and you know so much, you know, Uh talking to Kyle,
he seemed very excited. Yeah, as a matter of fact,
when we had the tour, Uh, but that was last
year from rahee We talked to Raheem. But we we
we still thought that they were gonna be good. We
thought they were gonna be really good this year because
you know, Pennis was talking about you know, he he's
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looking for Kyle, and you know, we got Drake Lenney,
we got Mooney, and we got Ray Ray and we
got you know, we got some weapons. We got Bijon
who's a dual thrag and catch it. We can run
it and Wyse Algier good power back. This this moves
makes this move makes no sense to.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Me at all.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Connor's running back, James Connor will undergo surgery on his
foot and will miss the rest of the twenty twenty
five season.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
How big of a loss is this, O, Joe man.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
It's a big loss. It's a big loss. Marvin Harrison Jr.
Didn't have a very very good game.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You have you gotta you gotta gotta have a problem
with the drops right now.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Yo, Now you got you got your You got Connor out.
He's going he's your bell, Kyle. Now that put more
pressure on Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
More pressure on.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Kyler Murray knowing Marvin's knowing, Marvin Harrison Jr. He gonna
bounce back, he gonna bounce back.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
All of it.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
All it is you have game like this.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Hell I've had Okay, I haven't had a game like this,
but I've had games where I've dropped the ball before.
And all it is going back to practice, looking the
ball and starting over like your little kid, the ball
and every time find the laces, Cass, the laces don't
take your ads out the ball, make sure you got
it secured, and then and then just go yeah and
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get yourself.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
You're trying to do too much on Joe.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
Yeah, that's it, taking it, taking his eyes off the ball.
That's all the w And it's easy to the most
difficult passes to catcher, the ones that's wide open. Where
you wide where you wide open, man, you take your
ass off the ball trying to make a play before
you secure it.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
That's all easily wide open.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
And you know the guy gonna be coming at a
rate of a high rate of speed, so he's like, man,
I make one move, and you made the move and
the balls on the ground, so it doesn't matter if
you made.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
The move, made the mins right.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Uh Yeah, it's tough, yer, James Carter, he's their bell cop.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
I think he went to the Pro Bowl last year.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Runs hard, can catch the ball out of the backfield,
but he's really their ball cop running back. I don't
know who his backup is, but it just puts more
emphasis on on as you mentioned on.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Color in that passing game, it's it's tough.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I mean, you hate to see a guy, you know,
because you know we've been there. We know, we put
in to make sure we try to stay as healthy
as we possibly can once the season start. And here
we are, you know, three weeks into the season and
we're done for the year.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Done for the year, man, That's that's only that's happened.
I mean, I broke my collar on the week four
and I was done for the year, and I was miserable.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Damn, but you done broke.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
But you done broke everything.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Fractured my eye socket and missed the last three games
of the season, dislocated my elbow, miss four games of
the season, sprain and knee ligament.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Hey, listen, if I played with you when none of
that happened, if we was on the same team, you
wouldn't have had no juries. Your shoulders would have been straight,
your knees, your ankles, all that, the angles you had
to keep getting the angle shot.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Up wouldn't have been no problem.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
I had no problem.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You would have been streat.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Man my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Man, I just caught a pass and rested Sol Dave
dor So I called it separated my shoulder when I
fell on this one and then he fell on top.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Of this one. A separated the other one. Listen both
of them.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
Yeah, I would have popled the boy right back in
place for you on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Take this, popped the back.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
I would take this tour it off, put this harness on,
and you're good to go.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I ain't wearing no harness, but I just uh, that
was like the last like the last preseason game. Yeah,
and then I misspracticed. Shot the shoulders up that Sunday. Yeah,
played as long as I could, and that made a
trying to think I cracked back on somebody.
Speaker 6 (45:50):
Oh no, no, I forgot you ton Lotton yep.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
I thing with numb it was a rap if they
were hanging out the.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Bone and you hit the helmet like this.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Oh, I couldn't do that. I couldn't even do that. Yeah.
I was like, come come get me, Come get me.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
What's what Greek? Steve Anton was I training is what
it is? Sharpe said, Greek, I'm done. He said, can
you rick? He's like sharp you can you rate? No,
I'm gonna tell you before you even asked, The answer
is no. Can you squeeze my hand?
Speaker 5 (46:30):
No? Can you so? Oh, Joe, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Going ahead and Greek, I will prepare you for everything
that you're gonna ask me, was already know.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
I can't do it?
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Yeah? Can you?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Can you push my hands out? You know, push my
hands out like this? Can you push your hands in?
I can't do none of that. Yeah, I just uh yeah,
I just I just feel bad because, man, you put
so much, you put so much time in that.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Yeo. Then I fraction my orbital bone, oh joe. And
so they.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
For a week to have my eye lit, have my
eyes closed, so my eye lids shut.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Had to sit up a man. It was damn And
you're gonna talk about I need to beat man? Please?
What happened you're talking about? Man?
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You gotta live. You gotta do some adventure. I ain't
trying to have nothing else broke at my a.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
The stuff we're gonna do, the stuff that we're gonna
do that's venturous. It is not stuff that can have
caused you to reinjure anything that's that that's.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
Happened to you.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
I'm gonna be doing all the danger stuff. You just
gonna be there for more more support. Okay, that's all.
Can I uh? Can I can? I can I like.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
Video? Can I watch from here?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Nah?
Speaker 6 (47:52):
We're supposed to be like Tom and Jerry, Man, you
got you gotta be out in the interfere with me.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Okay, I can see Jordan.
Speaker 6 (48:04):
Nah now, Jordan, Jordan cameraman, I.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Know that's what Jordan and Joran and Jordan sending it
back to me. I can be watching like, yeah, that
that's good. That's a good shot there, Jordan.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
We are young.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
It's so it's so much stuff.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
It's so much stuff that that is untouched. I'm telling
you when it when it comes to creating content that
we can do that nobody else is doing.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
We can go.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
We can go uh hang gliding, we go deep sea diving.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
We we do.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
We have time to do that in the off season. Okay,
nightcap The Adventures of Uncle Ocho. Man, we have about
we have about one hundred two hundred thousand people watching. Man,
I'm telling you, go go kart racing, Go shark diving.
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
A few days after Coach Crime said that Jacks aren't
using Travis on enough, Liam co fit Travis hur to
roll on offense, won't expand take a list to what
he had to say, O.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
Joe, Yeah, he's one right now, one position on offense
and one position on defense, so that that doesn't really
fully change. It's just more the next guy having to
go and adjust to to go play some Z which
what which is what happened in the game. So no,
I don't think it changes much.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
So after the season where he'll be he'll off offense.
Speaker 7 (49:27):
Yeah, it's fair right now to say, hey, dude, go
learn Z n X and twelve and this and that.
It's like, man, we got to make sure he can
really go and execute it. We're asking him to do
first and foremost, which is play f and play at corner.
So I think as we go and as he goes,
I gotta believe that it'll continue to do this.
Speaker 6 (49:44):
That's why I can see more Parker went the Ono
town so more Jennis Parker. I know he was very
transparent with us about two jobs.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
You said he had great practice last week. Consoctations with
his usage.
Speaker 7 (49:53):
Yeah, I think you know, I have not lost any
confidence in Parker by any means. You know, stuff happens.
It's not obviously something that we're excited about in the moment,
but you know, he took He takes a lot of
responsibility and accountability. He works his tail off every single
day practice like like I said, he literally had his
best week of practice last week as a jog since
we've been here, So you know, there's a lot of confidence.
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I really the message to him is, dude, like we
got to just move forward.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I agree, yeah, I mean me, I always thought o
Jo he would be better serve playing defense and didn't
have packages for and more offense. I mean, but everybody,
everybody wanted to manage just say, we're gonna just throw
him in there and let him play.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
This ain't college. I don't care what anybody says. I
don't care how many snaps he played and how great
he was. This is the best, not the best. There's
a reason why they stopped doing that in the sixties.
There's a reason. So to ask this man and see,
I'm not concerned, Ojo. There have been a lot of
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guys that can play both ways, but can you play
them in an elite level?
Speaker 5 (51:02):
Because that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
You see Troy Brown played offensive defense, you saw a
Julian Edelman play it in Spurts, But can you play
it at the level? Can you hold your own against
Jamar Chase and then can you go beat pats Er
tan On a consistent basis. Can you beat Stingley on
a consistent basis? Can you beat saut Gardener on a
consistent basis? Okay, can you d up Jetni? Can you
(51:27):
d up neighbors? Brian Thomas Jr? Chase? Can you do that?
So this notion about oh he can do that, he
can do that. I want to see him do it
at an elite level on both sides of the ball.
And the coaches said, there'll be a time for that.
Let the guy get used to the system.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
He's not there yet.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Obviously this is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
But everybody they misusing him. They're not misusing it.
Speaker 6 (51:51):
I think they just bringing them along slowly, not just throw.
Speaker 5 (51:56):
To the wolves.
Speaker 6 (51:57):
Align him to get acclimated, learn that everything. So you
don't have to think, because you play your best. When
it was at Colorado, he already knew what to do.
That's why he was playing his best. Yes, I don't
have to think. I can just go play and react.
So once he gets to the point over there in Jacksonville,
been there at a little bit more on his plate, Okay,
we go, you know, we got this. Okay, he got
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f Okay, now we can teach him z a little
more on his plate. Okay, boom, he got z. Now
we can then defensively. Okay, he's a little bit more.
He's a little comfortable. Now, boom. Maybe we're gonna put
him in on first and second downs instead of waiting
until third. It's just a little rep just bring them
along slow. So I think it's kind of smart, smart
than the way they're using them right now. I think
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there'll be certain situations, certain circumstances where they will need
that advantage, that mismatch that he does create on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
I think the thing is ojo is that.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Look, you know when you was a kid and you like,
give me someone no eat what's on your plate. Let
him eat what is on his plate, Let him get
this position, let him master that, and then as he
starts to master that. I don't care if anybody says
pro offenses are more complicated than college offenses. Pro defenses
are more complicated than college defenses. That's just the way
it is. And the athletes are better, just better, I
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don't care. Look, and we believe the SEC and the
Big Ten is as close to the NFL.
Speaker 5 (53:20):
As we get.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Guess what, there are a lot of guys in the
SEC and the Big ten that don't make it in
the NFL. All those guys that come out there on Sunday,
they made it. And there are a lot of guys
that played in that played in the conferences that didn't
make it. So you're talking about the best of the best.
And that's the thing, O Joe. It's not enough for
him to just say I played both sides.
Speaker 5 (53:42):
Of the football.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
People want to see he won the Heisman Trophy because
he was a league on both sides of the ball.
If he's not a leade on both sides of the ball, Ojoe,
what are we doing? Let's be all the way with chat.
What are we doing? The thing about the suv, oh Joe?
(54:05):
That is what made the suv so popular, Ojo. I
can hire my kids in it, and I can pull
up to it. I can go hey, I can be
in the carpool line, or I can go to I
can go to a black cod dinner.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
I can do both.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I can drive in the summertime a I can be
at Miami and drive my SUV. But guess what, I
can go to Minnesota and also do it. So if it,
if it doesn't give me that kind of value. What
are we doing, Ojo?
Speaker 5 (54:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (54:37):
But but another thing too, also, you took him so high, right,
you traded to get it right. So we're going here
the week four. Now, I understand it's a long season.
What you add on to that plate. We need to
keep on.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
We need to keep on adding and and and see
that a little bit more week to week.
Speaker 5 (55:03):
And I think that's what they're gonna do. Ojoe.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I mean, I think he played this was the first
time that he played more defense than he played offense.
But I think he was still around sixty plays. They
just we just haven't seen him getting the M zone.
We say, haven't seen him get any interceptions what we
routinely saw at Colorado. Man, this is this is the NFL.
(55:27):
Y'all realize this is the best of the best. This
is the top zero zero zero, zero point one percent.
That's what that is.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Bro. I don't think. I don't think people get it.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I think the thing is that people just people actually thought,
oh Joe, he was gonna just walk in there and
do what in the NFL what he did at Colorado.
And then if you say, oh Joe, like man Ojo said,
I got eleven years of this thing. Man, I think,
ain't that easy? I got fourteen. I said, man, it's
not that easy. Oh y'all hating. No, we're just telling
you what is gonna take to play at that level.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
That didn't even Time didn't even play both ways.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
And Time was as talent as anybody that's ever stepped
foot in the NFA.
Speaker 5 (56:15):
All the time. I mean they had a package.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
Time was a did what he did defensively, and then
he would come in with a package. Now he played
a little bit more when I think Michael got hurt
one year or the number two receiver got hurting, so
he played more.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
Same thing with Champ, same thing with Champ in Washington, Yes,
same way, yep.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
But for me personally, I don't think they're misusing Traves.
I think they're building him up slowly and slowly and
get putting more and more on his plate. And the
more he can eat, the more he can digest. And
we'll just keep going like going like that until we
build it out. We don't need, Hey, this thing, I
don't We don't need to build this overnight. We don't
need to try to have it learned x y x
z F. We don't need to do all that. Hey
(57:05):
you got the slot. Oh you're playing, Oh you playing,
you're playing outside, you're playing inside, you playing die. We
don't need to do all that, O Joe. There will
be a time that it'll be second nature. But I'm
sure there's a lot going on in this plate. But
it's oh Joe, it's hard because to get good at
something you do it all the time over and over.
(57:25):
It's repetition. Yeah, it's it's it's repetition. In the funny
so he go from he go from a standing split
to now he's in the back betal.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
And the funny thing.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
He won't be the the Travis Hunter were used to
seeing that we saw in Colorado. He won't be that
into the NFL. Until he knows everything. He's still think
he's still thinking, I know it's football at the end
of the day, but he's still thinking. It's your rookie year.
You're going in the week four, You're still thinking. So
they're putting you in advantageous positions where you don't have
(57:59):
to think.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
You just got to play. That's why you play.
Speaker 6 (58:02):
That's wreate is so small right now, so all you
have to do is just play and let your God
give him the ability in what you've learned so far
take over.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yes, I mean give him a year two. Let's see
where he's at halfway through the season. Let's see where
he's at at the end of the season. Let's see
where he's at year two, year three. And it's so funny,
but in order in order for this to make sense,
he's gonna have to be lead on both levels because
you took him so how you took him with the
number two pick in the draft. Number two pick in
(58:32):
the draft is supposed to be franchise alters. Yeah, and
they can't no matter what position. No matter what position
it is, he's supposed to be, franchise.
Speaker 6 (58:40):
Can't use him in that position yet because franchise franchise
altering is usually held for the quarterback position. Outside of
elite skilled players. At most of the time, it's the
receiver receiver dB. Well DB's come around every so often,
but receiver, quarterback or running back franchise altering. But he
(59:03):
has played isn't full enough for him to be franchise
altering right now?
Speaker 5 (59:07):
Correct? Not?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's hard. I mean, it's like I don't in him.
I understand that he wants to do things that nobody's
ever done. And it's been a long time since we
got to have a guy that this talent. We saw
Champ Bailey do it, Miles Jack did it as a
running back and a linebacker at UCLA.
Speaker 5 (59:31):
But it ain't easy. It ain't easy to be elite.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Because with the number two pick, you're supposed to be elite,
and he wants to be elite on both sides of
the football. And now you know you asked Tim, Tim said, Look,
I had I devoted what I devoted to being a
wide receiver like I devoted to dB. Ain't no question
in my mind. I get a gold jacket as a
wide receiver and I believe it. I believe it because
(59:58):
he was just so huge, so gifted. He God just
gave that man so much ability. But people see a
lot of times, don't Joe, when God gives somebody ability,
they make it seem like they don't work, time worked,
time studied. But see you like man God, no, no, yes,
God blessed him. But the greatest are when God blessed
(01:00:20):
you and you're the hardest worker. You get a Tom Brady,
you get a Dion Sanders, you get a Kobe Bryant.
You get a Michael Jordan, you get a Lebron James,
you get a Griffy Junior. That's what you get. You
get a Barry Bonds, you get that. That's what you
get when you take a Tiger Woods Serena, Serena Williams.
(01:00:43):
That's what you get. When God kiss you with God
given ability and work.
Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Ethic, you're dangerous. And the funny thing about it is
he already got the work ethic too. Not only do
we have the work ethic, but he God damn believe
he can do it.
Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
He believed he could do it. That's part of it.
Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
That's I was just gonna say that, that's part of it.
Once you believe you could do something, oh boy, it's up.
Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
It's up.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Then
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