Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson share their biggest NFL moments of the week on Nightcap! The duo break down Commanders star wide receiver Terry McLaurin's trade request and what it means for Washington's future and give the latest on the Cowboys drama
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
OJO Terry McLaurin and ask the commanders to trade him.
McLaurin turns thirty in September with Lauren in the final year.
He's in the final year OJO final season of a
three year deal, set to make fifteen point two million
base salary, and it's currently the seventeenth highest paid wide
receiver in terms of average annual salary.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ojo, Get my dog out of there, man, Get me
a dog out of there.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Man, where you trading him to?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
They want to play Tennessee. Let him go over there
to Tennessee with Cam real quick, so Cam could do
exactly what CJ. Stroud did. So Cam been doing exactly
what Jaydon and Daniels did over there with the commanders,
you know, giving them weapons. Let's put them weapons around him.
You know, we got Calvin Ridley, we got Tam McLaurin,
and wait, hope, we got Tyler Locket over there too.
(00:49):
Right now. I'm not mistaken ty to lock it in
the slot. Come on, man, we got they still got Paula, right,
Paula still a running back?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh, come on man, talk about Tennessee. Tennessee the dark
the dark Horse team to make it the playoffs. Terry
Mlawano that since they want to play games, Goddamn jayde
Daiels doesn't have the rocks in his back pocket to
be able to go up the management right now and
say listen, I need my target. I don't think you
understand a huge part of my success was actually having
number seventeen as the target. Look at some of the
(01:21):
plates they made for us last year. Why is it
even a no brainer? I don't care about it being thirty.
I don't care about it being thirty. Where else are
we going to get the production from where? No disrespect
to d Deebo Samuels, nice, very nice at what he does,
very nice at what he does. He's a Swiss army knife.
(01:44):
You can come out the back in the slot you
put in with the ball in his hands. The gickets phenomenal,
one of the best.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Sure, you going to a game and you're playing the Commanders.
They're game planning and setting the defensive formation where Terry
McLaurin lines up. What are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
If what Adam, if what Adam Schefter is reporting is
to be true, he wants way north of thirty three million.
They're not going there. O Joe they're not you know that.
I know that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean not not.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
If what Adam s like I said, Adam Shefter tweeted
that ask can you find that quote and put it
up on the thing to make sure they'll fig the
real Adam Schefter And we're not getting a catfish. But
if what Adam Schrefter reported is that he wants north, wait,
(02:47):
I think the work bourbage and the terms he used
was way north of thirty three million.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well listen, I want way north of thirty three million.
Stay with me now, Okay, commanders say, we not gonna
give you north of thirty three million. So okay, let's negotiate.
Let's find a happy medium that's not disrespectful to me
and what I've done for this franchise, because the number
(03:14):
speaks for themselves.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but pay for what you yourself. Oh, I'm gonna
pay for what you've done. I already paid you for that.
I gotta pay you what I'll believe a you're going
to do.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Now what he's gonna get? See he's thirty, right, yes,
thirty he can. He can. He can very well. Because
of the quarterback play and the quarterbacks you have, He's
going to be consistent. That's a no brainer. He's not
losing a step now.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I just don't I just don't know if that number
is that number that north.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay, Northern thirty or Northern thirty three, maybe won thirty
three and.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
A half, because think about what you do. Realize who's
at thirty thirty four and thirty five CD and jetta. Yeah, now,
way North means he's thirty six thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Give me dog thirty two and a half. Give Terry
mcclaurin thirty two and a half.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I was thinking. I was thinking more along the lines
of a wattle somewhere somewhere between somewhere between twenty eight
and a half. Hell no, hell no, Oh Joe, I'm
just oh Joe, Oh Joe, I've just got I gotta
be real back.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, himme a doll thirty two and a half. Talk
to me now, talk to me nice. Huh. We talked
about scary Arry. We ain't talk about just knowing anybody now, huh.
We talked about the one who would to see on
the chat. We talking about the captain, the one who
does everything the right way, He says all the right things.
He's the leader of the team. He's the leader of
the offense. His teammates game to see for a reason.
(04:45):
Now it's time to pay him for the exactly that
you're asking to be. And now it's a problem. That's
what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's what they're doing. That's what it seems like they're doing.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And I meanild please.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think, come on, man, I think thirty is probably
what I think the thirtieth is their their drop dead number,
because that's where that's where Tyreek is a pull up
the top tens pull up the other receivers. Adam Schefter
said he thinks Terry McLaurin wants considerably more than DK got,
which was thirty three million per year, So considerably, boy
(05:20):
is gonna be thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Damn listen, sometime you gotta you got, you gotta shoot high.
You gotta shoot high and fast away. You know, find
a happy median.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
For the stars. If you're laying on the moon, you're
still pretty damn high.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You'll you'll be happy. I don't like the fact that
the players are missing training camp. I don't like it
because you got you get. You need that time to
be getting pushed and shoved and getting acclimated to the
speed of the game.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You know, okay, Oh, Joe, here we are right here.
Jamar chases at forty forty zero point two five Jetta
thirty five, CD thirty four, DK thirty three, Garrett Wilson
thirty two, A J thirty two. I'm and Ron Saint
Brown thirty, Brandon Ayu thirty Tyreek Hill thirty, T. Higgins
(06:16):
twenty eight seven fifty.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, thirty two and a half. I'm gonna say that again,
thirty two and a half. Anything anything below that is disrespectful.
Put the numbers up, pulling, pulling numbers up.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
See you got them on your end? Did you see them?
Can you see them?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
No? The numbers?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, no, But but listen, listen, listen. Anything below that
is disrespectful. Pull the numbers up. See. I need to
be I need to be some of these I need
to be assistant to some of these agents when the
time for these receivers get paid. Because not only am
gonna pulling numbers up, not only I'm gonna pull the
numbers in the market where everybody getting paid, I'm also
walking there with the goddamn film. I'm not sure what
(06:57):
y'all been watching, so.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Thirty two and a half will put him up Gary Wilson,
Phil Times paid best receivers.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You see see, Okay, it's not it's not outrageous, it's
not too low. It's right in the middle, and it's
not disrespectful. But he will he will what were talking about?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He won't considerably more than thirty three?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
All right? See boom, he was shooting for the stars.
If I fall low, I want to fall to the
thirty two and a half.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I think you gonna fall at thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, no, see, I need to be in the rooms. Uh,
I need to. I need to be in the rules
when it's time for receivers to negotiate. I think the
owners and whoever does the numbers in the books, they
forgetting what you did?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, coming in.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm coming in there with the film. I'm coming there
with the film. Forget what you talk about. Let me
show you why my client deserves we'll be asking for.
Let me show you why. Play by play, I'm gonna
have all this catches and touchdown. I'm broken down thirty
two and a half. Let me show you what thirty
two and a half down in distance, different scenarios, remember, right,
(08:08):
come on man, stop playing man what Okay, I'm the
right listen, I'm the right one to have when it
comes to negotiation and getting somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I agree. I agree with Joe, Joe. I don't think
thirty two and a half is outrageous, but I think
I think he's gonna fall somewhere. I think he's gonna
be you know, And I said be cause remember Waddle
and remember I said I went twenty eight and a half,
that twenty eight and a half. So I think he's
gonna follow that twenty eight to a half to thirty two.
That's gonna be the range. And I don't know if
he's gonna be too happy with that, because what happens
(08:41):
is is that you don't want to be You don't
want to come behind a guy, O Joe. When the
guy got thirty two and a half, and then you
come behind him, you get thirty one or you get
thirty because now you stunted the growth of the wide receiver.
Now I get it. You look at Gary Willson. Gary
will say, hey, thirty two to five, considering where I was,
I'm cool with that. Right and right now, I can't
(09:02):
match the production of CD Jetta and Chase. So I
can't go up there Wan and say, hey, y'all need
y'all need to break me off like that because Jeda
is on some historic ish. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's case
is on some historic ish.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There's levels to every year.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes, so that's what. And so when you look at
it like that, But I get with Terry McLaurin says,
oh no, no, bro, Look, hey y'all need to break
me off.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Come on thirty two and a half. That's it?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, thirty two and a half is it a half?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
If they don't pay him thirty two and a half,
I'm gonna go off on management. I don't know where,
but they gonna hear me. They gonna they gonna hear me.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Bill's running back James Cook did not practice today. Cook
and seeking a contract extension, but was present at mandatory
mini camp reported the training camp and had participated thus
part kept it. Sure would asked why he sat out,
business said, would ask if you will practice Monday? Well,
James Cook being full pads for Buffalo Bill's Week one
(10:06):
against the Ravens. It's being reported. I don't know if
it's true. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta provide context
for everything now, O Joe is that he will ask
for a deal similar to what the Eagles gave Saquan James,
I don't think you're gonna get that, bro, how much
you're gonna be honest with you, I think I think
you're a family, a fabulous young running back, but you're
(10:28):
not finish. You're not finna get something comparable to uh
uh sat Quan. I don't even I don't think you're
gonna get something comparable, uh to to Max c Max.
I don't think of anything comparable with to d Henry?
What what? What is Derrick Henry make ash sixteen?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's that's tough.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
They just oh Joe, we gotta think about Oh Joe.
They just started paying running back to last two years.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Is tough. It's tough. And listen, they started paying the
running backs the last two years and they play and
the Tier one running backs right, yes, I see James
Cook as as as two tier two right below right,
he's right there. You know he he was an intricate
part of that offense last year. He was an intricate
part of that offense last year and had very very
(11:16):
very many plays, very very many plays. He fits very
well in that system along with Josh. That's one.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
D Henry.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, c mac okay, let me ask your question.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Okay, So we're gonna put Josh Jacobs. You like him next?
Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh, I forgot about ja. I forgot about j T.
He's in that class though, right, he's in that for me,
you know who won't talk about enough to since we're
on the top of the running backs. Kyims over there
with the rams.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh kyen wa, Yeah, yeah, excuse me. Joe Mixon had
a nice year. Oh who I mean twenty another twenty million.
I just don't see it now. I'm not saying, look
deserve earn. I don't see them paying that that asking price.
(12:25):
Sa Quon is that twenty million? Christian McCaffrey is that
nineteen million? Derrick Henry is that fifteen million? Jonathan Taylor
is that fourteen million? Avam Kamara that twelve two fifty,
Josh Jacobs twelve, Aaron Jones ten, James Connor nine, David
Montgomery nine point well, James Connor is nine point five,
(12:49):
David Montgomery nine point one two five, and Remandre Stevenson
is at nine million. So you see ten. Is that
nine million. Twenty is that million, So he gonna have
to fit somewhere in there. He I don't see him
leap froggin Taylor. Henry McCaffrey, he said he wants something
(13:12):
comparable to Saquon. Saquan is at the top of the
food chain at twenty point six and he just came
off of two thousand. He just came off Offensive Player
of the Year and he ran his team to the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, that's that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I love Dereck. Henry just had nineteen hundred and twenty
one yard led the league in rushing touchdowns. We know
Christian McCaffrey the we year before, he was Offensive Player
of the Year. We know it he is when he
is healthy. But Jonathan Taylor, because Saquon and Dee Henry
had such unbelievable seasons, we forget he had an unbelievable
season also. But because those two guys were battled out
(13:51):
for two thousand and and Saquan got it and Henry
was like seventy nine yards short, we kind of forgot
about him. And we know Josh Jacobs what he oh
Joe look really?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Brother cook? Hold of hold of Jim Cook now one
home team got to get his money.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Though, Man, he can't be more than he can't be
more than twenty five, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
See. Oh, so listen, if he's not more than twenty five, right,
if he's not more to twenty five, there's no reason
why he can't be slaughtered at. Right about about twelve
twelve or thirteen, twelve or thirteen is fair. Even if
at twenty five you still got a lifespan of maybe
another seven years, especially in that offense over there in Buffalo. Yeah,
(14:35):
in that specific offense, you can still like, I don't
think there are that many running backs you can go
find right now that can do what James Cook does.
I don't think people, let's let's not be fool.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He'll be twenty six on, he'll be twenty six in September.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Till he's give that thirteen, man, stop playing give him
at thirteen. He's young. That many running back that can
do what he does. About coming out of the backfield.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I agree, I agree he can catch the ball. But
you see how you being realistic, you say somewhere between
twelve thirteen, that's good money, bro bro. He said he
want to deal comparable a Quan twenty thing, and think
(15:19):
about Oyo signed the free agent deal. Sa Quan prayed
so good they tore the deal up and made him
the highest paid even after signing a free agent deal.
Dare Henry played so well last year, even after signing
a free agent deal, they tore it up and gave
a new deal.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Damn, man, I want my dog to get paid to man.
That's home team, Man, home team. Damn.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But I think the thing is, we got to be realistic.
They just started paying running backs last year and a half,
two years.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Hey, they're paying the special ones. Though I know paying
any and everybody, they're paying a special one. Jan True
based on what he does. Like he ain't no muther,
he ain't no slouch, no important part of that offense.
He makes that offense go. Now we know we know
Josh Allen, we know what Josh Allen is. Yeah, boy,
Josh Allen over is over there with no superstars, no
(16:12):
true number one running backs. But I mean wide receiver severs.
But you do have another weapon. And god damn James Cook,
huh you got you got a shaki, nice solid just
got paid in the off season. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
up and coming young bull.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Don't they got the care from San Diego? Then they
they didn'ty sign him in fre agency.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh san Diego the chargers.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, I was saying, la charges. Yeah, didn't they sign Palmer?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Josh Palmer is over there is Josh Josh Palmer, right,
I think that's who it is. I think his first
name Josh. If I'm not mistaken, Hey, god damn, but
that's a tough one. Listen. Honestly, I wouldn't want I
wouldn't want to be your owner. I wouldn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Joshua Palm.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a GM when
it comes to like fringe fringe situations like this, we
can go either way. I want to be a GM
where it comes to no brainers. Oh that's easy.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh yeah yeah yeah, but no, no, no, you got
to make tough decisions.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah. I don't like the tough decisions like this.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Because you can't keep everybody. You got to decide, okay,
do I get off this guy? And then one time
you get off somebody, like you let somebody go, and
then they go gangbusters kind of like what deack Henry did.
They're like, what the hell were you thinking about you
let Deck Henry go to bro But also, giants, giants,
what are you thinking about you let Saquon go? Yeah,
but listen, t what the hell are you thinking? You
let aj Brown go?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But this is the thing you have to think about it.
The timing and the places where these individuals win was
very important, Yes, very important. Left a disgruntled, a not
so good offense in New York and went to the
Philadelphia Eels with the best officer line true, Tennessee. I'm
not sure what you were thinking of what you were
looking at.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Cause the hearing hear Darren here, we gonna be Darren
Heary wherever he go. Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Ah, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, we wish you to I.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Cook, get your baby, do what you gotta give it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Thirteen fourteen fifteen, maybe in that range, but that nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Twenty thirteen, five, thirteen thirteen five, he only twenty five.
Hey Josh Allen, Josh Allen, man, you you need to interfere. Intervene, intervene,
please intervene. Listen, you know how much power, Josh Gott
do you understand? I don't think people understand. Do you
know how much power? The quarterback the quarterback has in
(18:50):
the situations like this, Man, John, go up there right now. Man,
what's what's the what's the only name? I forgot his name? Uh?
I meant Gooler Googler. Yeah, his daughter's really good at tennis. Huh. Yes,
it's really good at tennis, you know, mister Gooler. Man,
Jos's godon man, listen, mister Gooler. I don't want any
more distractions. I don't want any more distractions.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The cook, Bro the cook is a very important part
of our offense. He takes some of the pressure off me,
some of the pressure off my shoulders. Let's let's find
a way to get it now.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Bro, I gave you three hundred thirty million. I need
to put more pressure on your shoulder. So get out
of my office. No, hell noah. As a matter of fact,
I've been betrayed it for three a for three hundred
(19:47):
and thirty for three hundred for three hundred thirty million,
when I'm paying you and two hundred and fifty million guaranteed,
don't yo, nah, Bro, I ain't trying to take no
pressure off your shoulder. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be with
you that Josh. Uh Hey, that's a good one. That's
a good one.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I forgot. I forgot. He paid Josh all that got Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Shoot, and this is uh Michael and Jerry. They've kind
of been going back and forth over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Michael posted a link a lengthy message on social media
on Friday, concluding with a statement that he no longer
wants to play for the Cowboys. Yes, I wanted to
be there. I did everything I could to show that
I wanted to be a Cowboy and wear a star
on my helmet. I wanted to play in front of
the best fans in sports and make America's team propped
Murray's team once again, the team my pops and I
(20:41):
grew up cheering for way up in Harrisburg, PA. He
is from Harrisburg, O, Joe. You know, normally Harrisburg, normally
that Steeler or Eagles country. A lot of people like
the Steelers up in Harrisburg. But hey, if you know,
if you're in Pennsylvania and you root for the Eagles,
I mean, you got two teams. But if you root
for the Eagles, I ain't gonna hold that against you.
If you root for I'm not gonna hold that against you,
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but think about it. He in Steeler's ego territory, and
he and his pops of Cowboys fan Unfortunately, I no
longer want to be here. I no longer want to
be held to a closed door negotiation without my agent present.
I no longer want shots taken at me for getting
injured while laying on the line for the organization, our fans,
my teammates. I no longer want narratives created and spread
(21:24):
to the media about me. I knew I would be
leaving money on the table, but again I was okay
with that. Again, radio silists my extension. In March, I
met with mister Jones to talk about leadership. Somehow the
conversation turned into him talking about contract with me. Yes,
I engaged back and forth in regards to what I
wanted from my contract, but at no point that I
(21:45):
believe this was supposed to be formal negotiation that I
informed mister Jones after my agent would reach out, thinking
and get things done. I stayed quiet. But again, after
repeated shots at myself and all these narratives, I made
a tough decision. I no longer want to play for
the Cowboys. My check trade request has been submitted to
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Stephen Jones personally, m oh Joe, take off. What's your
take on this?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Listen? Hey, I just, I just I don't understand. It's
one thing for owners to think a certain way, uh,
to not really value the people that the players that
lay it all on the line for you. But you
have a certain way of conducting yourself. You already have
a history of things that are frowned upon when it
comes to us anyway, way way back. I don't I
(22:35):
don't need to bring that up, but to continue to
show us during the Kaepernick era time as well, the
one owner that came out and said, all our players
will be standing over yo, we're gonna hold a line
if you play for my team. And just to see
how he conducts business and the way he does despite
being the most profitable franchise of all sports, well, the
(22:57):
way he did CD, the way he did execute Elliott,
the way he did that now, the way he's doing
Michael Parsons this time, even going a little further fossil
line and talking about him in a way like, well,
even if we do pay him, he might not be
available like he was last year, or anyone like.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You, don't you don't miss six games.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You don't. You don't say stuff like that as the
owner when he's busting his ass for you and your team. Obviously,
do what his job is and what you pay him
to do. Injuries are a part of a sport. But
to hear your owner, the one who signed the check,
to say it and to say how he really feels
publicly to the world. That's the kind of stuff like
it gets out. It slips out because somebody recorded it,
(23:38):
somebody stuck a conversation, but he just like proudly he
blurted it out, letting you know how he feels about you.
How could you want to line up and put that
hat on? How could you want to wear that star
outside of just doing it for the money.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
See, if we talk about o Cho, that's why I
like to have somebody because he might would have told
the agent that, but the agent never would have come
back and told.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Me or you the exactly why you never want to
be a part of where. You never want to be
a part of negotiations because the real them comes out
and the agency never discloses. That will be upset. Everybody
will be upset on how they feel about you because
when it comes to business, they are shrewd, right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
This is what they do. This is not what you do.
I don't have a problem. I think Bobby Wagner was
one of the first ones that says, you know, I
no longer have an agent. I'm going to negotiate my
own contract. I think scharm does that. I think we
saw Lamar and his mom negotiate their own contract. I
don't have a problem with that. If he says I'm
going to be my own representative, I'm going to engage
(24:36):
in these talks with whomever, be it Jerry, Stephen or
whomever is doing this contract negotiations, I'm cool with that.
But if I tell you I have representation, don't try
to isolate me right back. You know, buddy, That's why
I have representation, because this is what they do. I'm
giving him a percentage of the total contract because I
(24:58):
want him to negotiate on my behalf. So that's why
Jerry had him going all these places. Hey, Michael, come on,
fly on the plane, because he's trying to no, no, no,
no no. If Michael said, you know what, Jerry, You're right,
I can do this on my own, and then that
way I don't have to give David his agent. I
won't have to give him two three percent of whatever
(25:19):
the case may be, whatever he charges, I just keep
that for himself. But that's not what Michael said. Michael says, hey,
I have an agent. He's like, I thought this was
the start of the negotiation. Hey, hey, David Muguletta is
looking forward to hearing from you. A told him we
had a great conversation. He'll take it from here. Jered
(25:41):
thought they had a done deal.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, Mi, no, no, no, I'm not stupid. No, hey,
but this is the part I understand. This goes for everybody.
Also in the chat, you have certain players. You have
special players that come along. I call him no brainer.
I call them players that are no brainers when they
come in, when they get drafted and you watch them
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play year to year, it's a no brainer when it's
time to pay them, right, Michael Parsons is a no brainer.
The pieces are no brainers. The Justin Jefferson's are no brainers.
Amar Ross, Saint Brian, I'm just using receivers from perspective.
They are no brainers. You know, there's no reason to
play a game when it comes to a player of
that magnitude even if they're whatever the books may say
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like stuff like that. Well, we know what. We have
one player on defense. It's our superstar paying the ball.
The balls should have been rolling on the season started
another three weeks. And what do we talk Why are
we still talking about contract with the no brainer?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, because think about it. What it cost the Binger.
They cost them an extra six million dollars a year,
or next to twenty four million dollars over four years
because you waited the year. It probably cost you an
extra thirty million dollars in guarantees because you waited the
extra year. So you have to pay a tax. You
have to pay a penalty if you're late. Let me
ask you a question. If you late on your rent,
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you pay a penalty if you late. If you got
something at the court and you're late, if you ow
Uncle Sam, there's a penalty for being late. If you
negotiate my contract late, there is a penalty for said service. Now,
with all that being said, Jerry didn't have to say
any of that. But Jerry just going to show you.
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See Now, Jerry, he's got to let you know who's
in charge. Because it is reported that as the representative
has been trying to reach out. Jerry returned no calls
on purpose, absolutely, on purpose, absolutely to prove the point.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
What point he's trying to prove. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I run the show.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm gonna show.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I will pay you. I'll pay you when I get ready,
like you do me, Like you basically told me, I
will pay you when I get ready.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Oh no, I ain't say I ain't say that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean, I know your action.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Did I'm gonna take ky your baby. I'm not Jerry.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I don't like that comparison. Don't do me like that,
don't yeh?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Could we come up on a year. It's a pauty
for being late.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I got you, I got you. I got one thing
about it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I need to see you got it. But I need
to get it right, you know A you know I
l like right now with you.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I light right now. I can't light. That's That's why
I love you, That's why I like that. That's what
I need. Come on, come on back home. That's what
I need you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I
need you. He's gonna be all right. Sure, we're gonna
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be all right.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm telling you what Todd Trippers said we're gonna be
all right, We're good and and and Michael. Michael said,
well you back me in a corner. I don't be
here no more. Hey, if you think I'll tell you
what if you upset talk about I might not be here.
I missed six games. Trade me, Yeah, see what the
market is and trade me.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Man, listen, but hey, he if Jerry was to play,
obviously you know he's not gonna do that. Well, you know,
Michael could reset the market by what we're gonna reset
the market anyway. He might get fifty. I mean, I'm
I definitely believe you get forty five. Yeah, easy, I
believe I believe you get forty five.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Whatever. Miles get whatever Miles Garrett gott and guaranteed money
I think he got. Miles got one twenty three, he
go what he goes one forty easy.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But this is the only part I don't like is
whatever team he goes to, it wouldn't be a contender.
It'd be a team that has a lot of room,
a lot of salary cap room, so they'll be able
to pay him.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That either a trade for what the commanders are definitely
trade for it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Man, the Eagles. That's not fair. That's that's not fair.
If he were to go to the Eagles and they
gave up whatever compensation they would want for Michael Parsons,
then you might as well hand him the God damn Lombardi.
Now just go just go ahead and get me.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But you what Jared said, he worried about the missing time.
He won't have to worry about it. He don't have
to worry about paying him, and he ain't got to
worry about him getting injured and missing time on his dying.
So with that being said, and the first learned like
and at some point in time, it's just like, bro,
what are we doing here? I get it? I get it.
You own the team. You said, Hey, I'm in my
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fifth year. We could have did something after year four,
I mean year three, we could have done something after
year four. So now we're now we're into the option.
You picked up my fifth year player option. That's where
we are right now. Yeah, after four Pro Bowls, two
to three first team All pros DeFi the year.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Twelve sacks, the season, twelve sacks, four years in a
road Come on, huh is that?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What? So?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Is that what we're doing right now? Jared, really really,
that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It couldn't could listen. I can't say it couldn't be
me because.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
They said this is negotiating, no show. He said, we're
negotiating now, right.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
But it's a true business. It's a true business. And
the fact that he let his feelings out publicly like that, Yeah,
it says all you need to know.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, I think you and I look, we've played sports
and we've been in the negotiat When negotiation gets personal,
you gotta be careful, O Joe. You gotta be careful
in any type of negotiation, whatever the case may be.
If it starts to get personal, one side will start
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to build up a resentment towards the other side, right,
And then even when he gets the money, they still
feel a certain way, and then the other person that
gave you the money still feels a certain type of way.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The funny thing about it is regardless for us as
the player, we're never in a position of leverage.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, we're never in a position of power unless you unless,
unless you're like you know what you turn out to
be like, Damn, I'm balling, defensive Rookie of the Year,
I'm all pro and I really just sit on my
money and I'm willing to say, Okay, y'all playing. I
see y'all week eight so I can get that. I'll
see y'all week eight, so I get that. Best a year.
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Come in, give me another quick eight sacks. Now what
you're gonna do? Mhm, y'all play, y'all play, I play right? Yeah.
But see, that's the thing. If you didn't have see
Jerry Nosey has leverage him been through your player option,
which is this year, and he has two franchise tags.
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So just imagine, just imagine if see Dak. You see
what Dak wrote in his contracts. No franchise tags. Oh yeah,
no franchise tags quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He can even do that.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Hey put that in there right, Hey, now you can't
franchise me because that's the leverage that they got because
I got I got theoretically, Mike, I got you for
this year and two more.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Dang, that's a it's it's unbelievable. The game, the games
that they play. You already know how they feel, right,
you know how they feel about you.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It's one thing that they say, and I hate to
bring it up, is the first thing when you when
you compare the NFL to a certain term, they want
to use the first people. The first thing people bring up,
well you get paid millions. But it's modern day, you
know what, but you get paid millions, you know. But
that's that's need to hear no there, but just to
hear Jerry say it. Just the fact that he uttered
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the words with confidence here in the world about your
star player. And then he took a.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Shot of Dak, what what are we?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well, look, Dak realized he is the quarterback that is
the leader of the team. Yes, but he and Jerry.
It's not like see Jerry had a relationship with Tony Romo. Yeah,
that's Dak is always hiding post Jerry because it was
Jerry that wanted to give Tony Romeo's job back.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Mhmm. That wasn't happen.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh he was. He got he kind of got. You know,
Steven and I think Jason Garrett and a few others
like Jerry, what are you doing? What do you what
are you? Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Even after all those injuries that that uh uh uh
Tony Romo he paid him. He mention nothing but no injury,
he mentioned nothing. By that and at one point time
Tony Romo was high pay playing in NFL without blinking.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Jerry also spoke with the reporters about Michael trey requests.
Let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say.
Would you ever consider again?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I don't u the place that with any real seriousness.
You know, Mike has got a bad back. That's like
being traded. Did the request take you back the way
of the same? Did the request take you by surprise? Again?
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That's negotiation. I've heard that so many times in my
thirty years in the NFL about from not just players
but agents. And of course we all understand contracts. We're
under contract, that's what we're doing. We're looking at adjusting
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the contract. But we're under contract and we're in camp,
and that's the way the rules are set up. But
that is old stuff, thirty years of old stuff. Some
of these issues we're hearing about, trading, hurt backs, all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
When do you start? When do you start negotiations with
his people?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Jerry again, I've been negotiating. I started negotiations in March
with his age. I said, I started negotiation in March,
and I've negotiated double handfuls of contracts, just like I
did in March.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
He thought it was again again again again.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Are you asking me?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I started that in March. I first to him a
negotiations associating us.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
The meeting was about leadership, not about his contract.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
It's my answer, it's my answer. I was negotiating in
March again. I sat with him at the Big twelve
Conference championships, with him at Super Bowl. So Michael is
easy for me to talk to, and we've had good talks,
and we had a good talk regarding negotiation of the
contract the way I have many many, many players.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He says something very interesting. O't Joe, He says, Michaels
in the contract? What about when players on the contract
and they get cut?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't kim, you know, don't care one side.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
You think, oh, we have contract, we have rules, but
the rules on one sided. If I outperform the contract,
want a new contract, you say, whoa WHOA? You under contract?
If I underperformed the contract that I signed, you say,
you gotta go. You see, this is what this is
what players should be. This is why they fight so
hard to try to get guaranteed money. This is what
you should be instead of petty privileges, instead of worrying
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about two of days and worry about how many padded
practice you have during the course of the year. These
are the things that true leadership in the nfl PA,
this is what you should be fighting for. I'm getting
rid of the trade. No, we're not doing a franchise
tag right. Look if I if I, if I'm at
a normal job and I want to my contract is
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coming up, they can't say, well, we're gonna franchise you.
And if I work for Google, that means I can't
go talk to Apple or I can't go talk to Microsoft.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
No.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Free agen, See how can you be free? If you can't,
you you undertag. They gotta tag on you. Free agency
means I'm free to negotiate wherever, and they can't be
a cap because whatever the market would bear. I just
saw Mark Zuckerberg just pay a guy a I got
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two hundred and fifty million, gave him a hundred million
up front. That's what free agency is. All I'm saying
against and we're gonna give it. I just hope the
next person in the NFL p A. This is some
of this is some of the themes health benefits, no
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SAP no.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Uh, no franchise tag, no franchise tag. Gotta go guaranteed contracts, Yeah, man,
because you can't, Oh Joe, you can't have it both ways.
You can negotiate with me when you want to, but
you can also cut me when you want to. See, so,
if I performed the contract, you say you got a contract.
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I underperformed the contract. You didn't perform up to the standard,
and so now you're gonna yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
So you you got to be careful. They need somebody,
all right. I know you think you view me, you
view me as the fun, the love, the entertainment that
the jokes and the laughter. But they need somebody shrew
that could be shrewed right back. When it come to
conducting business. You got to be someone that's fighting for
the players, not minimizing the players and pretending like I'm
for you, but really siding on the other end.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Man, Listen, you know how we the NFL owners, don't
want to lose the leverage. Baseball players have the leverage. Basketball,
the players have the leverage. All sports where contracts are guaranteed,
the players have the leverage. I think that's so many
players on a team. NFL owners don't want to lose
a leverage of the player.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I'm glad, guess what, And I don't know when
it's back and ain't wudn't have been gay on it either,
So I don't know when this back, this back issue,
because it flares up every time I go to put
that that help and all my bank starting to hurt on.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yo, every time. Every time he could play, he could
play hardball, He could play hardball. But listen with with
with with owners, GMS, everyone that sits in a position
of power on the NFL team, What they will use
against you is they know you're probably fold before I
do because you love the game. You love the game.
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They're banking on it, they're banking on it. You're gonna
fold before they do. So you you got you got
to play hardball. How hard do you want to play
the game? Because they gonna play with you, They're gonna
test you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Uh you see how agitated he got. I negotiated in March.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, and I answer the question already.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
No, Michael said he thought you were talking about leadership.
M He referred you to his age. It you asking me? Yeah,
we're asking you, but we talked to Michael two.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Listen, can you imagine a chat? I don't. I don't mean,
I'm not I'm not into really into hypotheticals, because you
imagine if Jeffrey Lewie and Howie Roseman ran the Cowboys.
Can you imagine if they were the ones in charge with.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The talent that they had because they drafted like the second,
they drafted like the second most since what twenty fourteen?
Maybe the second they might be first with the Chiefs
as far as Pro Bowl players, imagine how many time
they've been the number one seed and got bounced in
the first round or the second round. This is with
that talent and hold on when they had the best
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running back in football, z led the best offensive line
in football, and when they were taken when they were
putting eight, nine, ten guys into the Pro Bowl, when
they had when they had when they had those teams
with O and Wit and t O and they had
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the Marcus where and they had all those guys.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
The boy were nice, but they were loaded with they
were loaded. But I think I'm not sure why Jerry
can't can can't get it or can't see it.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Jerry one's credit.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Listen, but you look at the Patriots, right, Look at
all the that is successful every season, every season, the
Patriots when they their dynasty, and the good years you
had Belichick, you had Tom Brady. Forget that part.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Where did it start, mister cram And the only time
you heard from mister Craff is when he was taking
the trophy out of Roger Goodell's hand.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But everything starts at the top, Winning starts from the
front office, and it trickles all the way down, right.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
But Jerry wants you to be about him the cheese.
That's why. That's why people, Oh, Tom Brady should go
to the Tom Brady should go to the Cowboys. Boy
you Tom Brady, sayd Jerry, I'll play for you for
a million dollars, and Jerry would have told him hell no,
because Jerry would never be bigger than Tom. And Jerry
don't want nobody to be on the Cowboy to be
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bigger than him, So that's not gonna happen. M I
don't get why he's doing it like this, but look
they go, I guess this is there. You know how
you have a negotiation in the media and when it
should be negotiated behind closed doors. Oh well x y Z.
We negotiated, We had, we had a deal done. Michael say, well, hey,
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I want to Hey, I don't even want to play
for y'all no more. Yeah, let me let me go, Hey,
let me go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And Jerry's continue to do this on purpose because it
does what it keeps Whose team.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
In the media you were talking about him? Yeah, because
ain't nobody I mean, I mean the only other team
that we talked about me is Cleveland and Schauder. We really,
if you really think about it, though, Joe, we ain't
really having a discussion about No. No, you know, we
talked here and there about you know, the broad mass
between Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin. I was just reading
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a little bit about Matthew Stafford got something going on
with his back. Yeah, But for the most part, it's
the Cowboys, the Michael, Jerry and you got your door. Yeah,
that's pretty It's been a really a relative quiet training
camp cycle. And you know, Yarry like, hey, let me
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let me let me start some ish, like hey, popping
out for us right now, let me start some ish
and uh and to see where this thing go.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
The funny thing about it, But I don't like is
is Michael. I feel bad for Michael. I feel bad
for the Cowboys, the fans. I feel bad for the
players because I know that this is how your owner
thinks of you. If you can talk about your star
players like that, you know what he thinks about you.
And Jerry is is is at the forefront and letting
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people know nobody run the show with me and nobody
yeah big in my program.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah my program. Well you look even even the team Jered.
Just just so you know, every team gets a check
cut for four hundred and thirty two million, So it's
not like you're doing an outstanding job because you're not.
It sells itself at this point, it does just like
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all the other teams. All the other teams sell them SA. Granted,
now when it comes to the local market, they probably
don't do what Jerry does because it's Dallas, you know. Obviously,
they don't sell in Jacksonville's Cincinnati or Houston or Tennessee
like they do. Okay, fine, but they're not gonna be
and they're not gonna be in the line tomorrow either.
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But just keep doing it that way. He gonna get
tired of Philly. He gonna get tired of Philly and
Washington run of the divisions. He get tired of it.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
It's been thirty years. If he was gonna get tired
of it, he would have. He would have already picked
up on how everyone else is doing things. He's continued
to do it his way. He's set in his ways.
At of course, he's not gonna change. If I was
the owner of any team, I'll be taking notes. Okay,
this is what crafted, This is what Belichick did. Okay,
this is what Howie and and and Jeff.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
This is what Clark Hunt and Andy Reid how they
handle business.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Okay, let me let me see the Rooney the Ruoneys
had success during this era. All Right, we're in a
different era. But let me see if I can steal
some of the things that they did, how they conducted business.
Let me add this to my and came with my
own game plan, my own formula on how to conduct things.
Draft right, pay early, keep certain people.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Man, that's what they do. They pay early with identified guy.
We drafted a homegrown guy. Let's get him a year three. Uh.
You know they got Carl offtus.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
It's gonna take a pretty penny to get McDuffie signed.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
But you know, are they are they gonna? Are they
going to Simon McDuffie, becauld You let the la Jerry snead.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, they go. Yeah, they're not gonna let them go. Yeah,
they're not gonna let them go. Later in the pressor,
Jerry tried to use Daz Bryant negotiation has reasoning for
not wanting to work with Michael Parson's agent. Let's take
a list of what Jerry said about this. Why you yourself?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I talk to agent because the agent when we have
a problem within the team and a player, I don't
ever find the agent. He's nowhere to be found.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Jay Z said that Michael would make all I'm not Michael,
but that days would make all meetings. Jay Z and
I negotiated the contract. We spent hours negotiating the contract.
Jay Z and he said, to anybody in my organization,
is on time? Said, my office used to be on
the street corner and I've always been early, so they
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will be on time. I said, where do I sign?
But I'm gonna call you finally quit taking my call.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I know, Jeredy, Jared Drossness, Daz and here, what does
that have to do with any goddamn thing? He said.
The reason why I don't like working with agents because
you told me that this client was gonna be on time.
That's what he told me. He said, I'm used to
working on the street corner. And if you work on
the street corner, if you're late. Yeah, if you're earlier,
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you're late. So you better believe my guy. If they're
in this organization, which was rock, they're gonna be on time.
This is this was a dad's response, Jerry Jones. I
don't think it's mart mentioned in my name. I kept
quiet bout a lot of unfair ish oh some g ish.
Wh We have a story tized. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
You know, you know, you know, you know, Dave's got
he got his little piece. But you can't win that war.
Yeah you can't. You can't. You can't win that war. No,
you can't win that war. And what what I what
I wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
I'm not getting into it with I'm not getting because
Jerry Jerry is the type or tell all your business.
He oh, Joe, that's a little so okay, dance was
late for meeting? Okay, yeah, I get it. So who
wasn't because I was too, but Jerry might not like
hold on, no, Jared, you can't say that. Oh I
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was supposed to tell that much, you know. J Hey,
you know the old people. Oh yo, when they measure,
they don't really have no measuring. They go by field,
they go by okay, this and that ain't no measuring cup.
The some some you know, coaches owners might measure a
little bit. Jared, just just poor.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Listen. If he can do to Micaeh, who is of
value to his franchise right now, what do you think
he'll do to DEAs, who is of no value right
now laying for you?
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know, so I went. And also I wouldn't want
to There are certain bridges I don't want to burn. Yeah,
for sure, bridges I don't want to burn because you
never know when you might have to cross him again.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, but I'm sure Dad was sitting on this couch. Dad, No,
Dad was probably playing Madden because you say Dad's good
with the sticks.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's like d what d hen I gotta
do with this my own business?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
You bring you bring me into this.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
And you know what's funny is is we we have
people on the outside, you know, looking at it. Uh,
they're they're just owners and and I don't I want
people to understand how powerful, how powerful these individuals are
outside of the game of football. I want people to understand.
So when I when I just said, there's certain bridges
you don't want to burn, even if okay, you know
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what he says something you don't like. You know what,
there's certain things you got to let go because you
go in the ward with something you will never be
able to defeat and it can ruin a lot of
things for you outside. If if you get what I'm saying,
the folks is very very very very powerful outside of football.
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I think people don't, you know, I think people really
don't really don't understand the power that these individuals have.
Are you to do I mean, I mean the cat
just a regular regular football fans like people in the chat,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
People are.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I told him, mister Boling, call and got my money back.
Oh hoe, I can If I give you the right tools,
I can, you can probably win the war. But I
gotta give you the white weapons to go fight. I
don't know currently if if Michael has the weapon to fight.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Now, I have no leverage. No, it's unfair.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yep. But now I'm like, how long dance?
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Dance?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
How long you've been retired? Seven years? Eight years?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I'm not sure why he even bought his name up.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yes, because here's the thing. You could say that you
didn't have to use DAZ. You could have said there
have been times that the agent told me that player
X was gonna get treatment, player X was gonna do X,
Y and Z right with player X does not do that.
And I try to get on the phone with the
agent now, all of a sudden, he won't return the calls. Now,
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but when we're negotiating money, he calling me. Right, I
got all this, I got all this fun I got,
I got this. I got a landline, and you know,
a whole lot of people ain't got land lines no more.
But I got his landline, I got the number to
the secretary, I got his personal phone number, I got X,
Y and Z. All I'm saying is he didn't have
to use DAS.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
It ain't make no sense.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
He didn't have to use DAS.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
And I can assure you Dad's is not. But Dad's ay,
just let it, just let it rock you good, Hey,
you'd have made your money. You straight, You live in Dallas,
You got a nice life. Don't mess it up with
some pay the bull dye. It ain't even worth it, bro,
You know that. I it's frustrating that he dragging you
(53:05):
into something you ain't got nothing to do with. That's
that's between Jerry and Micah and David mcletter. They got
none do with Dance Bright. I don't know if if
there is an agent. I don't know if Rock Nation
has a client on the Cowboys, I don't know. All
I do know is that Daz's name shouldn't have been
(53:25):
brought up when you're trying to make a point of
why you don't like negotiating with agents. But all these
millions so liberal, So.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
I'm everybody under the bus, huh reversing over them?
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, backed up over But but I thought that was
the whole thing. That's the whole thing about having an agent.
I mean, when Jared, when I guarantee you, when Jerry
go joke knowing Sha these hundred million dollar deals, Jerry
sent this a hundred million dollar lawyers in there negotiate
(54:05):
with the other companies, a hundred million dollar lawyers.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
How you think him and Muga Letta don't get along.
You think they got some personal issues or something.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
No, Muka letter don't relook at to reset the market.
Damn the same thing Todd Franz did when he got
Dag's money. Now, I don't know, I don't know who
represents CD, but I know Todd Franz represents that. So yeah,
I'm looking to reset the market because i want to
keep climbing higher. And I'm trying to get as munch
of money as I guarantee K because I'm trying to
(54:34):
I'm trying to get uh who got the most guaranteed money?
Miles Garrett one twenty three. Okay, I'm trying to get
one forty because we're gonna keep pushing it. You keep
pushing it. Oh. Lamar Jackson said, Oh, did y'all see
what Josh Allen got guaranteed? I'm gonna need that because
he got one MVP. I got two.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Matter of fact, you know you'd have had three, you know. Shoot,
Lamar going back to the table after this season.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
Hey, Lamar tried to go back to the table to
the table before this season.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, well it's gonna happen I'm sure he hit the
ticket at some point.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
I'm just saying, Hey, I'm just saying, look, if you're
talking about north of what Josh got ye, I'll let
your boy.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
If that ain't what you're looking at, If that ain't
what you're looking for, what we're talking about. M damn,
I mean, what's it about twenty eight twenty nine? He's straight?
He good? Yeah, boyd man, I can't believe Jerry be
throwing everybody under the.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Buck, man, Jarry, don't care, man, buddy, don't care, man.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Jay, you do realize, first of all, Jared, you do
realize these are supposed to be private conversations, like when
you talk to an agent. You're supposed to be private.
This man mentioned jay Z by name, the idea to
deal with jay Z byself, so he gonna be on time,
say Temple where I signed at? Right there? Hey, man, oh,
(56:05):
I had a conversation with Mike and March at the
Big twelve Championship at the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Nothing. This is this is business, man.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Hey, I never find out Jaed you're wearing a wire
telling it all about you, telling everybody's business. Jerry put
it out there, badge. Yeah, dead respot. I read to
quote Jerry Jones. I don't think it's smart to mention
my name. I kept quiet about a lot of unfair
ish on some g ish. We can have a story,
(56:39):
We can have story time. If that's what we're doing now,
just let it rock Dad, Rock Nation, Terrence Steele. Oh, okay,
Terry Steele, he's the right tackle on the Cowboys. Rock
Nation also responded in twenty fifteen at the Club at
twenty one Club on a napkin, Jerry Jonesjan Perez, Sean
(57:02):
jay Z, Carter and Stephen Jones negotiated a five year,
seventy million dollar deal which included forty five million guaranteed
and a twenty million dollar signing bonus for dead Bright
at a time, which was the second largest contract for
a wide receiver in NFL history. The claim that mister
Carter or Rock Nation representative did not return the call
from Jerry Jones is not only a false statement, but
(57:24):
it's also a comical one. Rock Nation Sports, you know,
sports representative, So.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
Not Jerry Lyon too. Well, shoot you know who, don't
we all? We all listen, But he ain't handling been
as the right way. He ain't handling ben as the
right way.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Nope, but guess what, he don't care. He don't care,
He don't care. Jaed
OJO Terry McLaurin and ask the commanders to trade him.
McLaurin turns thirty in September with Lauren in the final year.
He's in the final year OJO final season of a
three year deal, set to make fifteen point two million
base salary, and it's currently the seventeenth highest paid wide
receiver in terms of average annual salary.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ojo, Get my dog out of there, man, Get me
a dog out of there.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Man, where you trading him to?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
They want to play Tennessee. Let him go over there
to Tennessee with Cam real quick, so Cam could do
exactly what CJ. Stroud did. So Cam been doing exactly
what Jaydon and Daniels did over there with the commanders,
you know, giving them weapons. Let's put them weapons around him.
You know, we got Calvin Ridley, we got Tam McLaurin,
and wait, hope, we got Tyler Locket over there too.
(00:49):
Right now. I'm not mistaken ty to lock it in
the slot. Come on, man, we got they still got Paula, right,
Paula still a running back?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh, come on man, talk about Tennessee. Tennessee the dark
the dark Horse team to make it the playoffs. Terry
Mlawano that since they want to play games, Goddamn jayde
Daiels doesn't have the rocks in his back pocket to
be able to go up the management right now and
say listen, I need my target. I don't think you
understand a huge part of my success was actually having
number seventeen as the target. Look at some of the
(01:21):
plates they made for us last year. Why is it
even a no brainer? I don't care about it being thirty.
I don't care about it being thirty. Where else are
we going to get the production from where? No disrespect
to d Deebo Samuels, nice, very nice at what he does,
very nice at what he does. He's a Swiss army knife.
(01:44):
You can come out the back in the slot you
put in with the ball in his hands. The gickets phenomenal,
one of the best.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Sure, you going to a game and you're playing the Commanders.
They're game planning and setting the defensive formation where Terry
McLaurin lines up. What are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
If what Adam, if what Adam Schefter is reporting is
to be true, he wants way north of thirty three million.
They're not going there. O Joe they're not you know that.
I know that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean not not.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
If what Adam s like I said, Adam Shefter tweeted
that ask can you find that quote and put it
up on the thing to make sure they'll fig the
real Adam Schefter And we're not getting a catfish. But
if what Adam Schrefter reported is that he wants north, wait,
(02:47):
I think the work bourbage and the terms he used
was way north of thirty three million.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well listen, I want way north of thirty three million.
Stay with me now, Okay, commanders say, we not gonna
give you north of thirty three million. So okay, let's negotiate.
Let's find a happy medium that's not disrespectful to me
and what I've done for this franchise, because the number
(03:14):
speaks for themselves.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but pay for what you yourself. Oh, I'm gonna
pay for what you've done. I already paid you for that.
I gotta pay you what I'll believe a you're going
to do.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Now what he's gonna get? See he's thirty, right, yes,
thirty he can. He can. He can very well. Because
of the quarterback play and the quarterbacks you have, He's
going to be consistent. That's a no brainer. He's not
losing a step now.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I just don't I just don't know if that number
is that number that north.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay, Northern thirty or Northern thirty three, maybe won thirty
three and.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
A half, because think about what you do. Realize who's
at thirty thirty four and thirty five CD and jetta. Yeah, now,
way North means he's thirty six thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Give me dog thirty two and a half. Give Terry
mcclaurin thirty two and a half.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I was thinking. I was thinking more along the lines
of a wattle somewhere somewhere between somewhere between twenty eight
and a half. Hell no, hell no, Oh Joe, I'm
just oh Joe, Oh Joe, I've just got I gotta
be real back.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, himme a doll thirty two and a half. Talk
to me now, talk to me nice. Huh. We talked
about scary Arry. We ain't talk about just knowing anybody now, huh.
We talked about the one who would to see on
the chat. We talking about the captain, the one who
does everything the right way, He says all the right things.
He's the leader of the team. He's the leader of
the offense. His teammates game to see for a reason.
(04:45):
Now it's time to pay him for the exactly that
you're asking to be. And now it's a problem. That's
what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's what they're doing. That's what it seems like they're doing.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And I meanild please.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think, come on, man, I think thirty is probably
what I think the thirtieth is their their drop dead number,
because that's where that's where Tyreek is a pull up
the top tens pull up the other receivers. Adam Schefter
said he thinks Terry McLaurin wants considerably more than DK got,
which was thirty three million per year, So considerably, boy
(05:20):
is gonna be thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Damn listen, sometime you gotta you got, you gotta shoot high.
You gotta shoot high and fast away. You know, find
a happy median.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
For the stars. If you're laying on the moon, you're
still pretty damn high.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You'll you'll be happy. I don't like the fact that
the players are missing training camp. I don't like it
because you got you get. You need that time to
be getting pushed and shoved and getting acclimated to the
speed of the game.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You know, okay, Oh, Joe, here we are right here.
Jamar chases at forty forty zero point two five Jetta
thirty five, CD thirty four, DK thirty three, Garrett Wilson
thirty two, A J thirty two. I'm and Ron Saint
Brown thirty, Brandon Ayu thirty Tyreek Hill thirty, T. Higgins
(06:16):
twenty eight seven fifty.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, thirty two and a half. I'm gonna say that again,
thirty two and a half. Anything anything below that is disrespectful.
Put the numbers up, pulling, pulling numbers up.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
See you got them on your end? Did you see them?
Can you see them?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
No? The numbers?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, no, But but listen, listen, listen. Anything below that
is disrespectful. Pull the numbers up. See. I need to
be I need to be some of these I need
to be assistant to some of these agents when the
time for these receivers get paid. Because not only am
gonna pulling numbers up, not only I'm gonna pull the
numbers in the market where everybody getting paid, I'm also
walking there with the goddamn film. I'm not sure what
(06:57):
y'all been watching, so.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Thirty two and a half will put him up Gary Wilson,
Phil Times paid best receivers.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You see see, Okay, it's not it's not outrageous, it's
not too low. It's right in the middle, and it's
not disrespectful. But he will he will what were talking about?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He won't considerably more than thirty three?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
All right? See boom, he was shooting for the stars.
If I fall low, I want to fall to the
thirty two and a half.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I think you gonna fall at thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, no, see, I need to be in the rooms. Uh,
I need to. I need to be in the rules
when it's time for receivers to negotiate. I think the
owners and whoever does the numbers in the books, they
forgetting what you did?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, coming in.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm coming in there with the film. I'm coming there
with the film. Forget what you talk about. Let me
show you why my client deserves we'll be asking for.
Let me show you why. Play by play, I'm gonna
have all this catches and touchdown. I'm broken down thirty
two and a half. Let me show you what thirty
two and a half down in distance, different scenarios, remember, right,
(08:08):
come on man, stop playing man what Okay, I'm the
right listen, I'm the right one to have when it
comes to negotiation and getting somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I agree. I agree with Joe, Joe. I don't think
thirty two and a half is outrageous, but I think
I think he's gonna fall somewhere. I think he's gonna
be you know, And I said be cause remember Waddle
and remember I said I went twenty eight and a half,
that twenty eight and a half. So I think he's
gonna follow that twenty eight to a half to thirty two.
That's gonna be the range. And I don't know if
he's gonna be too happy with that, because what happens
(08:41):
is is that you don't want to be You don't
want to come behind a guy, O Joe. When the
guy got thirty two and a half, and then you
come behind him, you get thirty one or you get
thirty because now you stunted the growth of the wide receiver.
Now I get it. You look at Gary Willson. Gary
will say, hey, thirty two to five, considering where I was,
I'm cool with that. Right and right now, I can't
(09:02):
match the production of CD Jetta and Chase. So I
can't go up there Wan and say, hey, y'all need
y'all need to break me off like that because Jeda
is on some historic ish. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's case
is on some historic ish.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There's levels to every year.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes, so that's what. And so when you look at
it like that, But I get with Terry McLaurin says,
oh no, no, bro, Look, hey y'all need to break
me off.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Come on thirty two and a half. That's it?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, thirty two and a half is it a half?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
If they don't pay him thirty two and a half,
I'm gonna go off on management. I don't know where,
but they gonna hear me. They gonna they gonna hear me.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Bill's running back James Cook did not practice today. Cook
and seeking a contract extension, but was present at mandatory
mini camp reported the training camp and had participated thus
part kept it. Sure would asked why he sat out,
business said, would ask if you will practice Monday? Well,
James Cook being full pads for Buffalo Bill's Week one
(10:06):
against the Ravens. It's being reported. I don't know if
it's true. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta provide context
for everything now, O Joe is that he will ask
for a deal similar to what the Eagles gave Saquan James,
I don't think you're gonna get that, bro, how much
you're gonna be honest with you, I think I think
you're a family, a fabulous young running back, but you're
(10:28):
not finish. You're not finna get something comparable to uh
uh sat Quan. I don't even I don't think you're
gonna get something comparable, uh to to Max c Max.
I don't think of anything comparable with to d Henry?
What what? What is Derrick Henry make ash sixteen?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's that's tough.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
They just oh Joe, we gotta think about Oh Joe.
They just started paying running back to last two years.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Is tough. It's tough. And listen, they started paying the
running backs the last two years and they play and
the Tier one running backs right, yes, I see James
Cook as as as two tier two right below right,
he's right there. You know he he was an intricate
part of that offense last year. He was an intricate
part of that offense last year and had very very
(11:16):
very many plays, very very many plays. He fits very
well in that system along with Josh. That's one.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
D Henry.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, c mac okay, let me ask your question.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Okay, So we're gonna put Josh Jacobs. You like him next?
Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh, I forgot about ja. I forgot about j T.
He's in that class though, right, he's in that for me,
you know who won't talk about enough to since we're
on the top of the running backs. Kyims over there
with the rams.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh kyen wa, Yeah, yeah, excuse me. Joe Mixon had
a nice year. Oh who I mean twenty another twenty million.
I just don't see it now. I'm not saying, look
deserve earn. I don't see them paying that that asking price.
(12:25):
Sa Quon is that twenty million? Christian McCaffrey is that
nineteen million? Derrick Henry is that fifteen million? Jonathan Taylor
is that fourteen million? Avam Kamara that twelve two fifty,
Josh Jacobs twelve, Aaron Jones ten, James Connor nine, David
Montgomery nine point well, James Connor is nine point five,
(12:49):
David Montgomery nine point one two five, and Remandre Stevenson
is at nine million. So you see ten. Is that
nine million. Twenty is that million, So he gonna have
to fit somewhere in there. He I don't see him
leap froggin Taylor. Henry McCaffrey, he said he wants something
(13:12):
comparable to Saquon. Saquan is at the top of the
food chain at twenty point six and he just came
off of two thousand. He just came off Offensive Player
of the Year and he ran his team to the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, that's that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I love Dereck. Henry just had nineteen hundred and twenty
one yard led the league in rushing touchdowns. We know
Christian McCaffrey the we year before, he was Offensive Player
of the Year. We know it he is when he
is healthy. But Jonathan Taylor, because Saquon and Dee Henry
had such unbelievable seasons, we forget he had an unbelievable
season also. But because those two guys were battled out
(13:51):
for two thousand and and Saquan got it and Henry
was like seventy nine yards short, we kind of forgot
about him. And we know Josh Jacobs what he oh
Joe look really?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Brother cook? Hold of hold of Jim Cook now one
home team got to get his money.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Though, Man, he can't be more than he can't be
more than twenty five, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
See. Oh, so listen, if he's not more than twenty five, right,
if he's not more to twenty five, there's no reason
why he can't be slaughtered at. Right about about twelve
twelve or thirteen, twelve or thirteen is fair. Even if
at twenty five you still got a lifespan of maybe
another seven years, especially in that offense over there in Buffalo. Yeah,
(14:35):
in that specific offense, you can still like, I don't
think there are that many running backs you can go
find right now that can do what James Cook does.
I don't think people, let's let's not be fool.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He'll be twenty six on, he'll be twenty six in September.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Till he's give that thirteen, man, stop playing give him
at thirteen. He's young. That many running back that can
do what he does. About coming out of the backfield.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I agree, I agree he can catch the ball. But
you see how you being realistic, you say somewhere between
twelve thirteen, that's good money, bro bro. He said he
want to deal comparable a Quan twenty thing, and think
(15:19):
about Oyo signed the free agent deal. Sa Quan prayed
so good they tore the deal up and made him
the highest paid even after signing a free agent deal.
Dare Henry played so well last year, even after signing
a free agent deal, they tore it up and gave
a new deal.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Damn, man, I want my dog to get paid to man.
That's home team, Man, home team. Damn.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But I think the thing is, we got to be realistic.
They just started paying running backs last year and a half,
two years.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Hey, they're paying the special ones. Though I know paying
any and everybody, they're paying a special one. Jan True
based on what he does. Like he ain't no muther,
he ain't no slouch, no important part of that offense.
He makes that offense go. Now we know we know
Josh Allen, we know what Josh Allen is. Yeah, boy,
Josh Allen over is over there with no superstars, no
(16:12):
true number one running backs. But I mean wide receiver severs.
But you do have another weapon. And god damn James Cook,
huh you got you got a shaki, nice solid just
got paid in the off season. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
up and coming young bull.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Don't they got the care from San Diego? Then they
they didn'ty sign him in fre agency.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh san Diego the chargers.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, I was saying, la charges. Yeah, didn't they sign Palmer?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Josh Palmer is over there is Josh Josh Palmer, right,
I think that's who it is. I think his first
name Josh. If I'm not mistaken, Hey, god damn, but
that's a tough one. Listen. Honestly, I wouldn't want I
wouldn't want to be your owner. I wouldn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Joshua Palm.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a GM when
it comes to like fringe fringe situations like this, we
can go either way. I want to be a GM
where it comes to no brainers. Oh that's easy.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh yeah yeah yeah, but no, no, no, you got
to make tough decisions.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah. I don't like the tough decisions like this.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Because you can't keep everybody. You got to decide, okay,
do I get off this guy? And then one time
you get off somebody, like you let somebody go, and
then they go gangbusters kind of like what deack Henry did.
They're like, what the hell were you thinking about you
let Deck Henry go to bro But also, giants, giants,
what are you thinking about you let Saquon go? Yeah,
but listen, t what the hell are you thinking? You
let aj Brown go?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But this is the thing you have to think about it.
The timing and the places where these individuals win was
very important, Yes, very important. Left a disgruntled, a not
so good offense in New York and went to the
Philadelphia Eels with the best officer line true, Tennessee. I'm
not sure what you were thinking of what you were
looking at.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Cause the hearing hear Darren here, we gonna be Darren
Heary wherever he go. Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Ah, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, we wish you to I.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Cook, get your baby, do what you gotta give it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Thirteen fourteen fifteen, maybe in that range, but that nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Twenty thirteen, five, thirteen thirteen five, he only twenty five.
Hey Josh Allen, Josh Allen, man, you you need to interfere. Intervene, intervene,
please intervene. Listen, you know how much power, Josh Gott
do you understand? I don't think people understand. Do you
know how much power? The quarterback the quarterback has in
(18:50):
the situations like this, Man, John, go up there right now. Man,
what's what's the what's the only name? I forgot his name? Uh?
I meant Gooler Googler. Yeah, his daughter's really good at tennis. Huh. Yes,
it's really good at tennis, you know, mister Gooler. Man,
Jos's godon man, listen, mister Gooler. I don't want any
more distractions. I don't want any more distractions.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The cook, Bro the cook is a very important part
of our offense. He takes some of the pressure off me,
some of the pressure off my shoulders. Let's let's find
a way to get it now.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Bro, I gave you three hundred thirty million. I need
to put more pressure on your shoulder. So get out
of my office. No, hell noah. As a matter of fact,
I've been betrayed it for three a for three hundred
(19:47):
and thirty for three hundred for three hundred thirty million,
when I'm paying you and two hundred and fifty million guaranteed,
don't yo, nah, Bro, I ain't trying to take no
pressure off your shoulder. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be with
you that Josh. Uh Hey, that's a good one. That's
a good one.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I forgot. I forgot. He paid Josh all that got Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Shoot, and this is uh Michael and Jerry. They've kind
of been going back and forth over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Michael posted a link a lengthy message on social media
on Friday, concluding with a statement that he no longer
wants to play for the Cowboys. Yes, I wanted to
be there. I did everything I could to show that
I wanted to be a Cowboy and wear a star
on my helmet. I wanted to play in front of
the best fans in sports and make America's team propped
Murray's team once again, the team my pops and I
(20:41):
grew up cheering for way up in Harrisburg, PA. He
is from Harrisburg, O, Joe. You know, normally Harrisburg, normally
that Steeler or Eagles country. A lot of people like
the Steelers up in Harrisburg. But hey, if you know,
if you're in Pennsylvania and you root for the Eagles,
I mean, you got two teams. But if you root
for the Eagles, I ain't gonna hold that against you.
If you root for I'm not gonna hold that against you,
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but think about it. He in Steeler's ego territory, and
he and his pops of Cowboys fan Unfortunately, I no
longer want to be here. I no longer want to
be held to a closed door negotiation without my agent present.
I no longer want shots taken at me for getting
injured while laying on the line for the organization, our fans,
my teammates. I no longer want narratives created and spread
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to the media about me. I knew I would be
leaving money on the table, but again I was okay
with that. Again, radio silists my extension. In March, I
met with mister Jones to talk about leadership. Somehow the
conversation turned into him talking about contract with me. Yes,
I engaged back and forth in regards to what I
wanted from my contract, but at no point that I
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believe this was supposed to be formal negotiation that I
informed mister Jones after my agent would reach out, thinking
and get things done. I stayed quiet. But again, after
repeated shots at myself and all these narratives, I made
a tough decision. I no longer want to play for
the Cowboys. My check trade request has been submitted to
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Stephen Jones personally, m oh Joe, take off. What's your
take on this?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Listen? Hey, I just, I just I don't understand. It's
one thing for owners to think a certain way, uh,
to not really value the people that the players that
lay it all on the line for you. But you
have a certain way of conducting yourself. You already have
a history of things that are frowned upon when it
comes to us anyway, way way back. I don't I
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don't need to bring that up, but to continue to
show us during the Kaepernick era time as well, the
one owner that came out and said, all our players
will be standing over yo, we're gonna hold a line
if you play for my team. And just to see
how he conducts business and the way he does despite
being the most profitable franchise of all sports, well, the
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way he did CD, the way he did execute Elliott,
the way he did that now, the way he's doing
Michael Parsons this time, even going a little further fossil
line and talking about him in a way like, well,
even if we do pay him, he might not be
available like he was last year, or anyone like.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You, don't you don't miss six games.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You don't. You don't say stuff like that as the
owner when he's busting his ass for you and your team. Obviously,
do what his job is and what you pay him
to do. Injuries are a part of a sport. But
to hear your owner, the one who signed the check,
to say it and to say how he really feels
publicly to the world. That's the kind of stuff like
it gets out. It slips out because somebody recorded it,
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somebody stuck a conversation, but he just like proudly he
blurted it out, letting you know how he feels about you.
How could you want to line up and put that
hat on? How could you want to wear that star
outside of just doing it for the money.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
See, if we talk about o Cho, that's why I
like to have somebody because he might would have told
the agent that, but the agent never would have come
back and told.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Me or you the exactly why you never want to
be a part of where. You never want to be
a part of negotiations because the real them comes out
and the agency never discloses. That will be upset. Everybody
will be upset on how they feel about you because
when it comes to business, they are shrewd, right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
This is what they do. This is not what you do.
I don't have a problem. I think Bobby Wagner was
one of the first ones that says, you know, I
no longer have an agent. I'm going to negotiate my
own contract. I think scharm does that. I think we
saw Lamar and his mom negotiate their own contract. I
don't have a problem with that. If he says I'm
going to be my own representative, I'm going to engage
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in these talks with whomever, be it Jerry, Stephen or
whomever is doing this contract negotiations, I'm cool with that.
But if I tell you I have representation, don't try
to isolate me right back. You know, buddy, That's why
I have representation, because this is what they do. I'm
giving him a percentage of the total contract because I
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want him to negotiate on my behalf. So that's why
Jerry had him going all these places. Hey, Michael, come on,
fly on the plane, because he's trying to no, no, no,
no no. If Michael said, you know what, Jerry, You're right,
I can do this on my own, and then that
way I don't have to give David his agent. I
won't have to give him two three percent of whatever
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the case may be, whatever he charges, I just keep
that for himself. But that's not what Michael said. Michael says, hey,
I have an agent. He's like, I thought this was
the start of the negotiation. Hey, hey, David Muguletta is
looking forward to hearing from you. A told him we
had a great conversation. He'll take it from here. Jered
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thought they had a done deal.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, Mi, no, no, no, I'm not stupid. No, hey,
but this is the part I understand. This goes for everybody.
Also in the chat, you have certain players. You have
special players that come along. I call him no brainer.
I call them players that are no brainers when they
come in, when they get drafted and you watch them
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play year to year, it's a no brainer when it's
time to pay them, right, Michael Parsons is a no brainer.
The pieces are no brainers. The Justin Jefferson's are no brainers.
Amar Ross, Saint Brian, I'm just using receivers from perspective.
They are no brainers. You know, there's no reason to
play a game when it comes to a player of
that magnitude even if they're whatever the books may say
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like stuff like that. Well, we know what. We have
one player on defense. It's our superstar paying the ball.
The balls should have been rolling on the season started
another three weeks. And what do we talk Why are
we still talking about contract with the no brainer?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, because think about it. What it cost the Binger.
They cost them an extra six million dollars a year,
or next to twenty four million dollars over four years
because you waited the year. It probably cost you an
extra thirty million dollars in guarantees because you waited the
extra year. So you have to pay a tax. You
have to pay a penalty if you're late. Let me
ask you a question. If you late on your rent,
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you pay a penalty if you late. If you got
something at the court and you're late, if you ow
Uncle Sam, there's a penalty for being late. If you
negotiate my contract late, there is a penalty for said service. Now,
with all that being said, Jerry didn't have to say
any of that. But Jerry just going to show you.
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See Now, Jerry, he's got to let you know who's
in charge. Because it is reported that as the representative
has been trying to reach out. Jerry returned no calls
on purpose, absolutely, on purpose, absolutely to prove the point.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
What point he's trying to prove. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I run the show.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm gonna show.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I will pay you. I'll pay you when I get ready,
like you do me, Like you basically told me, I
will pay you when I get ready.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Oh no, I ain't say I ain't say that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean, I know your action.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Did I'm gonna take ky your baby. I'm not Jerry.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I don't like that comparison. Don't do me like that,
don't yeh?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Could we come up on a year. It's a pauty
for being late.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I got you, I got you. I got one thing
about it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I need to see you got it. But I need
to get it right, you know A you know I
l like right now with you.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I light right now. I can't light. That's That's why
I love you, That's why I like that. That's what
I need. Come on, come on back home. That's what
I need you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I
need you. He's gonna be all right. Sure, we're gonna
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be all right.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm telling you what Todd Trippers said we're gonna be
all right, We're good and and and Michael. Michael said,
well you back me in a corner. I don't be
here no more. Hey, if you think I'll tell you
what if you upset talk about I might not be here.
I missed six games. Trade me, Yeah, see what the
market is and trade me.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Man, listen, but hey, he if Jerry was to play,
obviously you know he's not gonna do that. Well, you know,
Michael could reset the market by what we're gonna reset
the market anyway. He might get fifty. I mean, I'm
I definitely believe you get forty five. Yeah, easy, I
believe I believe you get forty five.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Whatever. Miles get whatever Miles Garrett gott and guaranteed money
I think he got. Miles got one twenty three, he
go what he goes one forty easy.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But this is the only part I don't like is
whatever team he goes to, it wouldn't be a contender.
It'd be a team that has a lot of room,
a lot of salary cap room, so they'll be able
to pay him.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That either a trade for what the commanders are definitely
trade for it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Man, the Eagles. That's not fair. That's that's not fair.
If he were to go to the Eagles and they
gave up whatever compensation they would want for Michael Parsons,
then you might as well hand him the God damn Lombardi.
Now just go just go ahead and get me.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But you what Jared said, he worried about the missing time.
He won't have to worry about it. He don't have
to worry about paying him, and he ain't got to
worry about him getting injured and missing time on his dying.
So with that being said, and the first learned like
and at some point in time, it's just like, bro,
what are we doing here? I get it? I get it.
You own the team. You said, Hey, I'm in my
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fifth year. We could have did something after year four,
I mean year three, we could have done something after
year four. So now we're now we're into the option.
You picked up my fifth year player option. That's where
we are right now. Yeah, after four Pro Bowls, two
to three first team All pros DeFi the year.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Twelve sacks, the season, twelve sacks, four years in a
road Come on, huh is that?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What? So?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Is that what we're doing right now? Jared, really really,
that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It couldn't could listen. I can't say it couldn't be
me because.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
They said this is negotiating, no show. He said, we're
negotiating now, right.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
But it's a true business. It's a true business. And
the fact that he let his feelings out publicly like that, Yeah,
it says all you need to know.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, I think you and I look, we've played sports
and we've been in the negotiat When negotiation gets personal,
you gotta be careful, O Joe. You gotta be careful
in any type of negotiation, whatever the case may be.
If it starts to get personal, one side will start
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to build up a resentment towards the other side, right,
And then even when he gets the money, they still
feel a certain way, and then the other person that
gave you the money still feels a certain type of way.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The funny thing about it is regardless for us as
the player, we're never in a position of leverage.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, we're never in a position of power unless you unless,
unless you're like you know what you turn out to
be like, Damn, I'm balling, defensive Rookie of the Year,
I'm all pro and I really just sit on my
money and I'm willing to say, Okay, y'all playing. I
see y'all week eight so I can get that. I'll
see y'all week eight, so I get that. Best a year.
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Come in, give me another quick eight sacks. Now what
you're gonna do? Mhm, y'all play, y'all play, I play right? Yeah.
But see, that's the thing. If you didn't have see
Jerry Nosey has leverage him been through your player option,
which is this year, and he has two franchise tags.
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So just imagine, just imagine if see Dak. You see
what Dak wrote in his contracts. No franchise tags. Oh yeah,
no franchise tags quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He can even do that.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Hey put that in there right, Hey, now you can't
franchise me because that's the leverage that they got because
I got I got theoretically, Mike, I got you for
this year and two more.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Dang, that's a it's it's unbelievable. The game, the games
that they play. You already know how they feel, right,
you know how they feel about you.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It's one thing that they say, and I hate to
bring it up, is the first thing when you when
you compare the NFL to a certain term, they want
to use the first people. The first thing people bring up,
well you get paid millions. But it's modern day, you
know what, but you get paid millions, you know. But
that's that's need to hear no there, but just to
hear Jerry say it. Just the fact that he uttered
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the words with confidence here in the world about your
star player. And then he took a.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Shot of Dak, what what are we?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well, look, Dak realized he is the quarterback that is
the leader of the team. Yes, but he and Jerry.
It's not like see Jerry had a relationship with Tony Romo. Yeah,
that's Dak is always hiding post Jerry because it was
Jerry that wanted to give Tony Romeo's job back.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Mhmm. That wasn't happen.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh he was. He got he kind of got. You know,
Steven and I think Jason Garrett and a few others
like Jerry, what are you doing? What do you what
are you? Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Even after all those injuries that that uh uh uh
Tony Romo he paid him. He mention nothing but no injury,
he mentioned nothing. By that and at one point time
Tony Romo was high pay playing in NFL without blinking.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Jerry also spoke with the reporters about Michael trey requests.
Let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say.
Would you ever consider again?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I don't u the place that with any real seriousness.
You know, Mike has got a bad back. That's like
being traded. Did the request take you back the way
of the same? Did the request take you by surprise? Again?
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That's negotiation. I've heard that so many times in my
thirty years in the NFL about from not just players
but agents. And of course we all understand contracts. We're
under contract, that's what we're doing. We're looking at adjusting
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the contract. But we're under contract and we're in camp,
and that's the way the rules are set up. But
that is old stuff, thirty years of old stuff. Some
of these issues we're hearing about, trading, hurt backs, all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
When do you start? When do you start negotiations with
his people?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Jerry again, I've been negotiating. I started negotiations in March
with his age. I said, I started negotiation in March,
and I've negotiated double handfuls of contracts, just like I
did in March.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
He thought it was again again again again.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Are you asking me?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I started that in March. I first to him a
negotiations associating us.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
The meeting was about leadership, not about his contract.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
It's my answer, it's my answer. I was negotiating in
March again. I sat with him at the Big twelve
Conference championships, with him at Super Bowl. So Michael is
easy for me to talk to, and we've had good talks,
and we had a good talk regarding negotiation of the
contract the way I have many many, many players.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He says something very interesting. O't Joe, He says, Michaels
in the contract? What about when players on the contract
and they get cut?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't kim, you know, don't care one side.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
You think, oh, we have contract, we have rules, but
the rules on one sided. If I outperform the contract,
want a new contract, you say, whoa WHOA? You under contract?
If I underperformed the contract that I signed, you say,
you gotta go. You see, this is what this is
what players should be. This is why they fight so
hard to try to get guaranteed money. This is what
you should be instead of petty privileges, instead of worrying
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about two of days and worry about how many padded
practice you have during the course of the year. These
are the things that true leadership in the nfl PA,
this is what you should be fighting for. I'm getting
rid of the trade. No, we're not doing a franchise
tag right. Look if I if I, if I'm at
a normal job and I want to my contract is
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coming up, they can't say, well, we're gonna franchise you.
And if I work for Google, that means I can't
go talk to Apple or I can't go talk to Microsoft.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
No.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Free agen, See how can you be free? If you can't,
you you undertag. They gotta tag on you. Free agency
means I'm free to negotiate wherever, and they can't be
a cap because whatever the market would bear. I just
saw Mark Zuckerberg just pay a guy a I got
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two hundred and fifty million, gave him a hundred million
up front. That's what free agency is. All I'm saying
against and we're gonna give it. I just hope the
next person in the NFL p A. This is some
of this is some of the themes health benefits, no
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SAP no.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Uh, no franchise tag, no franchise tag. Gotta go guaranteed contracts, Yeah, man,
because you can't, Oh Joe, you can't have it both ways.
You can negotiate with me when you want to, but
you can also cut me when you want to. See, so,
if I performed the contract, you say you got a contract.
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I underperformed the contract. You didn't perform up to the standard,
and so now you're gonna yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
So you you got to be careful. They need somebody,
all right. I know you think you view me, you
view me as the fun, the love, the entertainment that
the jokes and the laughter. But they need somebody shrew
that could be shrewed right back. When it come to
conducting business. You got to be someone that's fighting for
the players, not minimizing the players and pretending like I'm
for you, but really siding on the other end.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Man, Listen, you know how we the NFL owners, don't
want to lose the leverage. Baseball players have the leverage. Basketball,
the players have the leverage. All sports where contracts are guaranteed,
the players have the leverage. I think that's so many
players on a team. NFL owners don't want to lose
a leverage of the player.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I'm glad, guess what, And I don't know when
it's back and ain't wudn't have been gay on it either,
So I don't know when this back, this back issue,
because it flares up every time I go to put
that that help and all my bank starting to hurt on.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yo, every time. Every time he could play, he could
play hardball, He could play hardball. But listen with with
with with owners, GMS, everyone that sits in a position
of power on the NFL team, What they will use
against you is they know you're probably fold before I
do because you love the game. You love the game.
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They're banking on it, they're banking on it. You're gonna
fold before they do. So you you got you got
to play hardball. How hard do you want to play
the game? Because they gonna play with you, They're gonna
test you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Uh you see how agitated he got. I negotiated in March.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, and I answer the question already.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
No, Michael said he thought you were talking about leadership.
M He referred you to his age. It you asking me? Yeah,
we're asking you, but we talked to Michael two.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Listen, can you imagine a chat? I don't. I don't mean,
I'm not I'm not into really into hypotheticals, because you
imagine if Jeffrey Lewie and Howie Roseman ran the Cowboys.
Can you imagine if they were the ones in charge with.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The talent that they had because they drafted like the second,
they drafted like the second most since what twenty fourteen?
Maybe the second they might be first with the Chiefs
as far as Pro Bowl players, imagine how many time
they've been the number one seed and got bounced in
the first round or the second round. This is with
that talent and hold on when they had the best
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running back in football, z led the best offensive line
in football, and when they were taken when they were
putting eight, nine, ten guys into the Pro Bowl, when
they had when they had when they had those teams
with O and Wit and t O and they had
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the Marcus where and they had all those guys.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
The boy were nice, but they were loaded with they
were loaded. But I think I'm not sure why Jerry
can't can can't get it or can't see it.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Jerry one's credit.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Listen, but you look at the Patriots, right, Look at
all the that is successful every season, every season, the
Patriots when they their dynasty, and the good years you
had Belichick, you had Tom Brady. Forget that part.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Where did it start, mister cram And the only time
you heard from mister Craff is when he was taking
the trophy out of Roger Goodell's hand.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But everything starts at the top, Winning starts from the
front office, and it trickles all the way down, right.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
But Jerry wants you to be about him the cheese.
That's why. That's why people, Oh, Tom Brady should go
to the Tom Brady should go to the Cowboys. Boy
you Tom Brady, sayd Jerry, I'll play for you for
a million dollars, and Jerry would have told him hell no,
because Jerry would never be bigger than Tom. And Jerry
don't want nobody to be on the Cowboy to be
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bigger than him, So that's not gonna happen. M I
don't get why he's doing it like this, but look
they go, I guess this is there. You know how
you have a negotiation in the media and when it
should be negotiated behind closed doors. Oh well x y Z.
We negotiated, We had, we had a deal done. Michael say, well, hey,
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I want to Hey, I don't even want to play
for y'all no more. Yeah, let me let me go, Hey,
let me go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And Jerry's continue to do this on purpose because it
does what it keeps Whose team.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
In the media you were talking about him? Yeah, because
ain't nobody I mean, I mean the only other team
that we talked about me is Cleveland and Schauder. We really,
if you really think about it, though, Joe, we ain't
really having a discussion about No. No, you know, we
talked here and there about you know, the broad mass
between Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin. I was just reading
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a little bit about Matthew Stafford got something going on
with his back. Yeah, But for the most part, it's
the Cowboys, the Michael, Jerry and you got your door. Yeah,
that's pretty It's been a really a relative quiet training
camp cycle. And you know, Yarry like, hey, let me
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let me let me start some ish, like hey, popping
out for us right now, let me start some ish
and uh and to see where this thing go.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
The funny thing about it, But I don't like is
is Michael. I feel bad for Michael. I feel bad
for the Cowboys, the fans. I feel bad for the
players because I know that this is how your owner
thinks of you. If you can talk about your star
players like that, you know what he thinks about you.
And Jerry is is is at the forefront and letting
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people know nobody run the show with me and nobody
yeah big in my program.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah my program. Well you look even even the team Jered.
Just just so you know, every team gets a check
cut for four hundred and thirty two million, So it's
not like you're doing an outstanding job because you're not.
It sells itself at this point, it does just like
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all the other teams. All the other teams sell them SA. Granted,
now when it comes to the local market, they probably
don't do what Jerry does because it's Dallas, you know. Obviously,
they don't sell in Jacksonville's Cincinnati or Houston or Tennessee
like they do. Okay, fine, but they're not gonna be
and they're not gonna be in the line tomorrow either.
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But just keep doing it that way. He gonna get
tired of Philly. He gonna get tired of Philly and
Washington run of the divisions. He get tired of it.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
It's been thirty years. If he was gonna get tired
of it, he would have. He would have already picked
up on how everyone else is doing things. He's continued
to do it his way. He's set in his ways.
At of course, he's not gonna change. If I was
the owner of any team, I'll be taking notes. Okay,
this is what crafted, This is what Belichick did. Okay,
this is what Howie and and and Jeff.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
This is what Clark Hunt and Andy Reid how they
handle business.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Okay, let me let me see the Rooney the Ruoneys
had success during this era. All Right, we're in a
different era. But let me see if I can steal
some of the things that they did, how they conducted business.
Let me add this to my and came with my
own game plan, my own formula on how to conduct things.
Draft right, pay early, keep certain people.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Man, that's what they do. They pay early with identified guy.
We drafted a homegrown guy. Let's get him a year three. Uh.
You know they got Carl offtus.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
It's gonna take a pretty penny to get McDuffie signed.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
But you know, are they are they gonna? Are they
going to Simon McDuffie, becauld You let the la Jerry snead.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, they go. Yeah, they're not gonna let them go. Yeah,
they're not gonna let them go. Later in the pressor,
Jerry tried to use Daz Bryant negotiation has reasoning for
not wanting to work with Michael Parson's agent. Let's take
a list of what Jerry said about this. Why you yourself?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I talk to agent because the agent when we have
a problem within the team and a player, I don't
ever find the agent. He's nowhere to be found.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Jay Z said that Michael would make all I'm not Michael,
but that days would make all meetings. Jay Z and
I negotiated the contract. We spent hours negotiating the contract.
Jay Z and he said, to anybody in my organization,
is on time? Said, my office used to be on
the street corner and I've always been early, so they
(47:39):
will be on time. I said, where do I sign?
But I'm gonna call you finally quit taking my call.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I know, Jeredy, Jared Drossness, Daz and here, what does
that have to do with any goddamn thing? He said.
The reason why I don't like working with agents because
you told me that this client was gonna be on time.
That's what he told me. He said, I'm used to
working on the street corner. And if you work on
the street corner, if you're late. Yeah, if you're earlier,
(48:09):
you're late. So you better believe my guy. If they're
in this organization, which was rock, they're gonna be on time.
This is this was a dad's response, Jerry Jones. I
don't think it's mart mentioned in my name. I kept
quiet bout a lot of unfair ish oh some g ish.
Wh We have a story tized. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
You know, you know, you know, you know, Dave's got
he got his little piece. But you can't win that war.
Yeah you can't. You can't. You can't win that war. No,
you can't win that war. And what what I what
I wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
I'm not getting into it with I'm not getting because
Jerry Jerry is the type or tell all your business.
He oh, Joe, that's a little so okay, dance was
late for meeting? Okay, yeah, I get it. So who
wasn't because I was too, but Jerry might not like
hold on, no, Jared, you can't say that. Oh I
(49:03):
was supposed to tell that much, you know. J Hey,
you know the old people. Oh yo, when they measure,
they don't really have no measuring. They go by field,
they go by okay, this and that ain't no measuring cup.
The some some you know, coaches owners might measure a
little bit. Jared, just just poor.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Listen. If he can do to Micaeh, who is of
value to his franchise right now, what do you think
he'll do to DEAs, who is of no value right
now laying for you?
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know, so I went. And also I wouldn't want
to There are certain bridges I don't want to burn. Yeah,
for sure, bridges I don't want to burn because you
never know when you might have to cross him again.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, but I'm sure Dad was sitting on this couch. Dad, No,
Dad was probably playing Madden because you say Dad's good
with the sticks.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's like d what d hen I gotta
do with this my own business?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
You bring you bring me into this.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
And you know what's funny is is we we have
people on the outside, you know, looking at it. Uh,
they're they're just owners and and I don't I want
people to understand how powerful, how powerful these individuals are
outside of the game of football. I want people to understand.
So when I when I just said, there's certain bridges
you don't want to burn, even if okay, you know
(50:31):
what he says something you don't like. You know what,
there's certain things you got to let go because you
go in the ward with something you will never be
able to defeat and it can ruin a lot of
things for you outside. If if you get what I'm saying,
the folks is very very very very powerful outside of football.
(50:51):
I think people don't, you know, I think people really
don't really don't understand the power that these individuals have.
Are you to do I mean, I mean the cat
just a regular regular football fans like people in the chat,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
People are.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I told him, mister Boling, call and got my money back.
Oh hoe, I can If I give you the right tools,
I can, you can probably win the war. But I
gotta give you the white weapons to go fight. I
don't know currently if if Michael has the weapon to fight.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Now, I have no leverage. No, it's unfair.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yep. But now I'm like, how long dance?
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Dance?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
How long you've been retired? Seven years? Eight years?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I'm not sure why he even bought his name up.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yes, because here's the thing. You could say that you
didn't have to use DAZ. You could have said there
have been times that the agent told me that player
X was gonna get treatment, player X was gonna do X,
Y and Z right with player X does not do that.
And I try to get on the phone with the
agent now, all of a sudden, he won't return the calls. Now,
(52:17):
but when we're negotiating money, he calling me. Right, I
got all this, I got all this fun I got,
I got this. I got a landline, and you know,
a whole lot of people ain't got land lines no more.
But I got his landline, I got the number to
the secretary, I got his personal phone number, I got X,
Y and Z. All I'm saying is he didn't have
to use DAS.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
It ain't make no sense.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
He didn't have to use DAS.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
And I can assure you Dad's is not. But Dad's ay,
just let it, just let it rock you good, Hey,
you'd have made your money. You straight, You live in Dallas,
You got a nice life. Don't mess it up with
some pay the bull dye. It ain't even worth it, bro,
You know that. I it's frustrating that he dragging you
(53:05):
into something you ain't got nothing to do with. That's
that's between Jerry and Micah and David mcletter. They got
none do with Dance Bright. I don't know if if
there is an agent. I don't know if Rock Nation
has a client on the Cowboys, I don't know. All
I do know is that Daz's name shouldn't have been
(53:25):
brought up when you're trying to make a point of
why you don't like negotiating with agents. But all these
millions so liberal, So.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
I'm everybody under the bus, huh reversing over them?
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, backed up over But but I thought that was
the whole thing. That's the whole thing about having an agent.
I mean, when Jared, when I guarantee you, when Jerry
go joke knowing Sha these hundred million dollar deals, Jerry
sent this a hundred million dollar lawyers in there negotiate
(54:05):
with the other companies, a hundred million dollar lawyers.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
How you think him and Muga Letta don't get along.
You think they got some personal issues or something.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
No, Muka letter don't relook at to reset the market.
Damn the same thing Todd Franz did when he got
Dag's money. Now, I don't know, I don't know who
represents CD, but I know Todd Franz represents that. So yeah,
I'm looking to reset the market because i want to
keep climbing higher. And I'm trying to get as munch
of money as I guarantee K because I'm trying to
(54:34):
I'm trying to get uh who got the most guaranteed money?
Miles Garrett one twenty three. Okay, I'm trying to get
one forty because we're gonna keep pushing it. You keep
pushing it. Oh. Lamar Jackson said, Oh, did y'all see
what Josh Allen got guaranteed? I'm gonna need that because
he got one MVP. I got two.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Matter of fact, you know you'd have had three, you know. Shoot,
Lamar going back to the table after this season.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
Hey, Lamar tried to go back to the table to
the table before this season.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, well it's gonna happen I'm sure he hit the
ticket at some point.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
I'm just saying, Hey, I'm just saying, look, if you're
talking about north of what Josh got ye, I'll let
your boy.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
If that ain't what you're looking at, If that ain't
what you're looking for, what we're talking about. M damn,
I mean, what's it about twenty eight twenty nine? He's straight?
He good? Yeah, boyd man, I can't believe Jerry be
throwing everybody under the.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Buck, man, Jarry, don't care, man, buddy, don't care, man.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Jay, you do realize, first of all, Jared, you do
realize these are supposed to be private conversations, like when
you talk to an agent. You're supposed to be private.
This man mentioned jay Z by name, the idea to
deal with jay Z byself, so he gonna be on time,
say Temple where I signed at? Right there? Hey, man, oh,
(56:05):
I had a conversation with Mike and March at the
Big twelve Championship at the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Nothing. This is this is business, man.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Hey, I never find out Jaed you're wearing a wire
telling it all about you, telling everybody's business. Jerry put
it out there, badge. Yeah, dead respot. I read to
quote Jerry Jones. I don't think it's smart to mention
my name. I kept quiet about a lot of unfair
ish on some g ish. We can have a story,
(56:39):
We can have story time. If that's what we're doing now,
just let it rock Dad, Rock Nation, Terrence Steele. Oh, okay,
Terry Steele, he's the right tackle on the Cowboys. Rock
Nation also responded in twenty fifteen at the Club at
twenty one Club on a napkin, Jerry Jonesjan Perez, Sean
(57:02):
jay Z, Carter and Stephen Jones negotiated a five year,
seventy million dollar deal which included forty five million guaranteed
and a twenty million dollar signing bonus for dead Bright
at a time, which was the second largest contract for
a wide receiver in NFL history. The claim that mister
Carter or Rock Nation representative did not return the call
from Jerry Jones is not only a false statement, but
(57:24):
it's also a comical one. Rock Nation Sports, you know,
sports representative, So.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
Not Jerry Lyon too. Well, shoot you know who, don't
we all? We all listen, But he ain't handling been
as the right way. He ain't handling ben as the
right way.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Nope, but guess what, he don't care. He don't care,
He don't care. Jaed
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