Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest moments from the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo! Unc & Ocho sit down with 100m World Champion Melissa Jefferson-Wooden and Olympic medalist Fred Kerley, plus react to Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone’s historic 400m record-breaking performance.
0:00 - Fred Kerley Joins the show
28:03 - Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone sets American record
38:49 - Cordell Tinch wins 100M Hurdles
39:46 - Isaac Nader wins 1500M
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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so please subscribe or you're gonna make ojo. All right,
Oh shoe, we got a very very special guest joining us.
This guy's done something that very few track and field
men in the track and field game.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Has ever done.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
He's one of the few men that has run sub
forty four into four hundred meters, run sub nineteen eight
in the two hundred meters, run sub ninety eight oh
in the one hundred meters. He's a world champion in
the one hundred meters, he's an Olympic silver medalist in
the one hundred meters, and I think he won either
on the world relay team.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Here he is.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Ladies and gentlemen, Fred, curly, Fred, what's going on? Thank
you're mute?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Fred? Can you hear me? Yeah? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Chilling? Chilling, chilling, can't complain.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Let's start with this. You watch see it today? Forty
seven seventy eight two women. I mean, think about it.
You had to go to get on. Basically, to get on,
you got to run one of the ten or eleven fastest
times ever for a woman just to get on the podium.
How impressive what you saw sea It do. Basically, she said,
this year, I've done with the hurdles. I'm not doing
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the hurdles. I'm focusing on the four flat with it,
and her sole purpose is to take that world record
down many thought was untouchable. How impressive? How impressed are
you with what she's doing for it? I think it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
It's something that have not done and been done in
thirty nine years and have somebody great as her to
accomplish that is amazing. And I feel like she still
can go faster. She's just still young and just to
open for her Baby's is four hundred hurdles, but it's
no telling what she can do in the open four.
I feel like she can go even below what she did.
I feel she's still young at it, her body's still young.
(02:02):
I feel like she can do some still can do
some amazing stuff in that open four nimeters.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You believe she can go sub forty seven five.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I feel like she can go faster than that. I
feel like, yo, it's Sydney were talking about yes, yo.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So she got, She.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Got talent that I don't think no woman on this
earth have got all, no woman had discovered yet.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I feel like she's she's amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So every time she touched the track it always have
been a world record. And her young days, so I
feel like the sky is the limit and I feel
like she still got she still got a lot more
in the tank. I feel like that forty seven where
she ran was a chill molde really hmmm when you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Look at it, Fred, I think a part of it
because they're talking now that maybe and Bobby, Bobby Kursey,
he coached flow Joe Gail Devers. Gail Devers are the
two time Olympic hundred meter champ. We know what flowed Joys.
We don't need to say anything. Valerie Brisco at the
time she hooks and now she's Vattery Brisko hook. He
was the first to do the double the four two
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in eighty four in La, last time the Olympics were
in La. Guess what in twenty eight the Olympics gonna
be in La. Could you see Bobby Kirsey going to
the Olympic Committee says, look, we want to do something unprecedented.
I feel like that they could do unprecedented is the
four to four.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I feel like she always can't do anything, but he
if the time frame presentable. I feel like any and
no telling what the Olympic Committee can do for any
of us, right right?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You watched? I mean, I don't know how much of
the are you watching the World the World Championship.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I watched you two university or twenty university. I get
all the news when everything come on them channels. I'm
not watching it live.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
How how surprised are you with the way oblique Seville
has run this year, ended up winning the World Championship
one hundred meters. He caught Kashane. Kashane always gets a
great start. I was surprised how how easiest Ville made
it look. Noah got the bronze, but Noah didn't have
a whole lot of races handedicap what.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You saw and what you think happened. I don't think
I saw. Was so much surprised about the race. He
been showing it since I raced him in Jamaica. He like,
it's all about peaking at the right moment. A lot
of at least a lot of athletes have not raced
in September. They in the cities in August each year,
so every time you in your season early, you don't
get that extra boost. And what I saw in the
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one hundred meters, I feel like he was always cable
of doing it.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He's just in up shorthanded, and this year he showed
what it was.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And for Noah, I feel like I don't think he
was so much concentrated on the one hundred this year.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think he was so much concentrated on the two hundred.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
He lost the two hundred last year, and I feel
like he wanted his revenge, the two hundred his baby.
I feel like he want the two hundred more than
a hundred.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah. I think so too, to be a four time.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I mean he's already three peter, so now he wants
the four something that no man on the track.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Has ever done.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
What you say, I think you said it done for
two hundred war he got dq I think he got
dequted and uh and that was just what that was
just one hundred Yeah, yeah, okay, let's let's talk about you. Yes, sir,
you had a worry about violation that you were possibly contesting.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I don't know if you're still gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Still I'm still be contesting. I ain't get no wrong,
So my people are still fighting for all that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, but they said you're the first, if I'm not mistaken,
track and field athlete to be a part of the
enhanced games. Yes, and enhance means break a world record
with enhancing. I mean obviously on the protocol. If you're
trying to fight to say, well, you know what, I
did nothing wrong. This was just to worry about. I mean, uh,
(05:40):
I'm sorry I didn't give you say. I was in
Miami and I was supposed to be in La or
I was in the Bahamas and I was supposed to
be over here.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Why would you Why would you take this there? Why
would you do the enhanced game? Come test me. You
know what I'm saying. Come test me. I'm not tripping.
You can come to my house at any second, any minute,
in any hour. Come test me. I'm not worried about
no mistesting on nothing. Come test me. I've been clean
my whole entire career. You come test me. Only thing
by signing up to this game, make money, protect my future.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Equity is everything. Ownership is everything for me.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And they did the exact job I got ownership, and
a lot of track athletes when they get done with
this sport, they don't got nothing to go home to.
I've been to two Olympic Games and been world champion, right,
so it's for me. My understanding is I got family
to feed, Right, I'm going home. You know what I'm saying.
(06:31):
Guess what if I go call somebody asked to tell me,
give you two und k go get a job. I
ain't never had no job, you know what I'm saying.
Only thing I know is my feats running, you know
what I'm saying. So nobody gonna tell me how to
make money and protect my family, my blood line depending
on me. I'm the first one make it out, and
my whole job is continue to if I make a
hundred million dollars, I'm going to continue to make a
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hundred million dollars each and every year. So my whole
job to protect my blood line.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So explain to me. Tell me this free. So tell
me how the whereabouts?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do you Okay, so you give them locations of where
you're gonna be they call you or do you put
something in right at the beginning of the year, it says, okay,
this is why I have a residency here in Texas,
I have a residency in Florida, and I have X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So how did the whereabouts? How does this work?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So whereabouts is basically we fill out each quarter.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They got to know all your location, They got to
know if I'm here where, They got to know everywhere.
So this is basically every quarter you fell out where
you're gonna be. But the problem with that, you never
know where you're going to be. Okay, life is life.
So it's just like you just gotta to give them
an hour. They come after hours, sometimes they come when
they want to.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Simple is that? So?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It basically for me, it just feel like I'm in prison.
My dad been in jail, my dad and my dad
being in prison, he's still on parole. He don't got
to do half of the shit I'm doing to maintain
a paycheck.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Hey yeah, hey Fred.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
That basically that's the same thing with us in the
off season.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Now, it don't matter where you are, they'll always have
you at yes, man, I don't I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It don't matter.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We a Fred.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I remember one one off season, It might have been
after that two thousand and five, two thousand and sixth season,
it didn't matter where I was, Yo.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
But you know the problem with the problem with football
and track, y'all still maintain your contract.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, okay, we don't no no.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Oh. So in other words, you yo, once you get depended,
you get you get no money like U s A
tf us spend my medical stuff? So what what what
somebody like me to like, I'm gotta go get money regardless.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
We don't get nothing like track, track and field not
paying me, sponsorship pay me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So any of your endorsements, I don't got no endorsements.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
To what people talking about is make money at all
costs and protect my kids.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
So I don't care what. I don't care what nobody say.
They not feeding none of them. They're not even feeding me.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You said you want a chance to push your limits,
so you say they can come test you. Now you
know if you take part of this, uh, Fred, You're
probably gonna get a lifetime band.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yo, guess hey, guess what it's doing happening? Gonna do
what you gotta do. Hey, Just like they got people,
I got people, and I'm blessed and I'm highly favored
of the man above.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do you do you think if you were to go
go ahead and and take this process, how do you
think Fred Curley is gonna be remembered? Because, like I said, Fred,
there's not a whole lot of men.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I mean, you're an n c A champ.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You went to the four hundred. I'm stelling in two hunks.
I'm stelling in the testing for okay. I'm still in in
the regular government of testing for okay. So let me
ask you a question. Do they do blood? They do
blood and your they do both. I just I just
got a pissed test today. I'm not tripping.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, you're gonna be good. You gotta good. You're gonna
be good. You see the problem?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I feel like the problem is they're scared to pay
the athletes, you know what I'm saying, So they can't
control us when you're trying to make the other form
of income, you know what I'm saying. So if they
can't control what you got in your pocket, how they're
telling that you got the coaches and stuff making more
than the athletes. Wow, you got agent making more than
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the athletes. You got president making more than the athletes.
They protecting the athletes. You got athletes that can't get sponsorship.
You got athletes that working the job to maintain their livelihood.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So at the end of the day, it's protecting myself
because they don't care about me. It don't matter how
much money I make with endorsements that stuff in right,
and without adorsement, we're not surviving.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right, So let.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Me so, what's what's a what's routine paid for a
diamond league? They say, well, Fred, we want you to come,
couldn't test the one hundred meters?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What? What? What? What? What does the Fred curly get? What?
What is the guy?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Obviously you saying both with a special circumstance. I feel
like I feel like every year been different.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Everything been like I can't tell you on a day
to day or it's whatever the meat gout or whatever
the meet. I think it is the main event of
that championship. Okay, So I can't like every every meet
is not the same.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
The only thing that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Might hundred It might be the hurdles and the two hundred,
it might be the four hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Okay, I'm an American, So America look a little different
for Europeans.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, like we gotta lift.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know what I'm saying, nobody coming to nobody coming
to my rescue, and asked me if I got this
or got that, like nobody care like they people gonna
live on their regular life. If I go, go dead
broke right now. If if I go, oh no, I
don't got it. So it's protect my future, protect my kids.
You know what I'm saying. My leg it's my legacy.
(12:00):
I did everything in this sport. I'm still doing everything
in this sport.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So let me ask you this. You're still in. You
say you're still in. You're still in the testing pool.
So now you didn't go to the World, so are
you still training? So what so what what is it now?
What what do you do now? Because basically I don't
know if there's anything after the World, and so the
season is basically over.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Are you getting ready for next You're gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Do the world? Your world?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
So I'm not I'm suspended right now, previously suspended, so
they I'm still okay, yeah, so I'm not basically banned
as yet, but they suspended me for competition. Okay, so right,
my lawyer's fighting fighting that, so right now, I forever retraining.
So you just never stopped doing what you do just
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because of this. You never know, you always got to
be prepared for what's what's coming.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Fred.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Let me ask you this, why did you I mean,
you're great four hundred, You're a great. You are a great.
You're gonna pay to be one of the greatest four
hundred meters made. What made you decide to go to
the What made you decide to drop down to do
the one hundred?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
See, like the twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Actually changed everything.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
My coach left me in twenty nineteen to go get
a degree overseas. Twenty twenty, I was aut of coach
twenty twenty one. I was allowed to coach until like
a couple of and that's when I moved to Miami
and start training with coach Joey. And I was still
doing four hundred training. For the four hundred training, you
gotta have somebody there just to push you. The four
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hundred just start getting born. And then all of a sudden,
I'm just like, let me just try this. My ankle
got rolled and stuff, and then I was running on
the hurt leg and that's when God bless me, I said,
I don't know what's next. And then that's when the
hundred just came. I ran one hundred at a meat
I mean attract me in Florida, and that's when the
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repetitions started becoming easy. And that's when I dropped my
first nine and I'm like, I'm going to the Olympics. Yeah,
I'm running the one hundred at the Olympics this year, right,
And a lot of people questioned me around me, even
my coach questioned me at the time. But at the
end of the day, I'm always gonna believe in myself,
my self ability. I won't get into something if I
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know I'm not gonna be good at it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Because it's rare. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We see people do the four drop down to the
two because of the strength training, so you're really good.
We see people do the two drop down to the hundred.
I think, what was the guy he went to LSU
Zavier he won the four hundred hundreds and the man yeah, man,
he won the four and the one and the sec
at LSU and so he is having a promise. So
(14:43):
I don't know if I've ever seen anybody do what
you've done, but it's the times that's most impressive to
go slub forty four, to go sub nineteen eight, to
go sub nine to eight. But for me, do you
know anybody else that's ever done that? Yeah, I do,
besides yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Now, I don't know nobody, But for me, it's just
like it's all about people tell me I can't. I
hate the world I can't. That will make me want
to do it even more. Oh, you can't do this,
you can't do that. Oh Like I heard that plenty
of time when I'm younger. So that's why I'm gonna
go do it. And every time somebody say I can't,
(15:23):
I've been successful, and hey, you know what I'm saying,
So I can't complain about what God gave me in
my heart to do.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
He pushed me to greater things.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
So when somebody said I can't, that's when I'm gonna
do it, just like I will.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Mosso on o cho sinko.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Right now, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
You know why you're ran forty four?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But it now?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Ask who he trained with?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That was Yo.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
He came to the track like one or two Tom.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
He flew flew by.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
You know what you started he started training for boxing
because I beat him so bad.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
They flew by and he was like, I ain't know
you was that fast to be this old. I was like, yeah,
I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So if this, if this band is lifted, I don't
think there's anything next year but the USA, and then
there's the World's in the twenty seven and then you
got the Olympics in twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So what what is your immediate plans?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I'm still running. I'm still running the game. I got
a salary.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Okay yo, I got a salary, I got equity in
the company. So I'm still running and still run freely.
You know what I'm saying. You can't. People can't to
dyn me of my success. Like like I said, I
ain't really missed no tests. All the misstests I missed
I would attract me, m okay. So I'm not caring
(16:52):
about none of what people say. But people got to
go into the details and stuff. See, they not popping
people on drugs. They popping people will whereabouts. Yeah, they're
not really doing their job. And guess what, I got
drug tested the next day after the mistest. I'm not
caring about no mistests. I know what's really going down.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And we explained to them too, just because I'm a mayor, just.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Because go ahead, go ahead, Sorry to cut you off
as because like like I have, I had a rough
year and I can't complain, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So it's just like I just gotta do better.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Is it a situation?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They don't give your heads up, They just need you,
so they call you stay an hour.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It's no cause. Yeah, there's no cause. None of that.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
They gotta they gotta.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
At least, it's none of that. It's none of that.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
That's not fair.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It's none of that. To the problem is track and feel.
Are you not making no money? That's how they make
the money. That's why USC dropped them.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah the drug test, Yeah yeah, out of test.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So they said, so they're not really doing their due
diligence and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
With everything you I heard you keep saying America's Americans.
Do you feel that this system is set up to
catch Americans while others countries possibly because everybody don't test
like that, like the American gets right now, I feel
like we live in a time.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Where that peep of late the ol g's and stuff
back in the day fucked it up for us. Sorry
for customs, but they messed it up for us. Okay,
how so you already know just the O G messed
it up for us, Like, okay, so I don't, I don't,
I don't. I don't care about getting tested. You can
test me every day, every minute of the hour. So
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it's just like OG mess it up for us.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So in other words, is like those guys were like, well,
I wasn't there and I'm sorry. And so that's why
they put the whereabout claws in because when they wanted
to test, guys said, well, I was over here over there.
So now they make y'all every quarter, so every three months,
you guys got to feel out, Well, i'm gonna be
in Miami, I'm gonna be in l A, I'm gonna
be in Texas, I'm gonna be in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know, we gotta give them every address.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
If I go out to eat, I gotta put that
address in, like right now, I gotta put this address
every minute. They can srow about do it too much now, y'all, yo,
it's like we in prison, like you got every hour
every everywhere you go, you gotta training block, you gotta
give them an hour if you leave a house to
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go down the street. Hey, they got to know everything.
And that's what people don't realize. Like, I don't yo,
you can come and test me any time, but like
feeling this stuff out every minute, every second is just
like bro y'are doing too much that in vey of
a prophecy and stuff too. When we go overseas, we
gotta fill out every minute, every second everywhere.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know what I'm saying, everywhere you go.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
If I go to a funeral right now, they gotta
know where I'm at at the funeral. People popping people
popping up at restaurants to test us, people popping up
at airport to test us.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, it's basically like we in a plantation. Wow, and
the outside world don't know what's actually going on because
you got people that actually own the stuff but never
getting caught because they getting paid off.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You got active cases right.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Now in track and field that Usader and Water is
not doing nothing about because they're getting paid off. Oh damn,
that's a pretty strong accusation.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Bread.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
There's no as the facts is the facts, simple as that,
and they know it. They got cases going on right now.
You can come and test me any day of the week,
and I'm not tripping. I can show you my my, my.
You know we get every time we do drug tests.
Stuff come to my phone. Negative negative, negative negative.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm not tripping. Have you thought about trans is in
the football? You won't get it tested as much.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No'm baseball. It's guaranteed money.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Fred, you ain't played basketball in twenty years. You ain't
finn hit. No people, I've been playing. Yo, I don't
got the You don't yo. I can play what you
gonna Fred? What position you're gonna play for?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Fred?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Center field? You know they hit they hit in center field? Right?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, you know my speed, I know how to catch.
You can. Hey, I know you're.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Here somewhere in this county where I'm at. You can
come check me out.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Hold on, you can hit the ball.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yes, I can hit the ball.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm not in Miami. I'm talking to uncle was for
to say, let go to the batcage this weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Are you gonna be here? Yeah? You know I was.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I was a five too, Like you know, they would.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Trying to you say you're good at everything.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
No, I promise, I promise. You know the mall Is
try to draft me in ninety seven out of.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
High spital y'all, Florida, Florida, guys, y'all gotta stop for real.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
That's like when I beat you when we was out
there training, Like you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I know, I know one of the greatest runners in America.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Here.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I know you ain't letting this man come off the
street and beat you.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Fred Yo, you talk about oh to hey, he thinks
he good at everything.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You see what he thought.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He was about to get a soccer ticket to look
at him.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You think you're good at everything, man.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Be honest right here now.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I didn't beat you when we ran two fifties.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I ain't never doing on two fifteen training in years.
So what you're talking about what we were doing that day?
How were we doing? I think what we were doing something?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I ran it with you.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't know what were we doing.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I blew bidio mans. I know that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I just want to know what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Hey, we came this weekend.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Oh hey, I got my camera ready, Well bring your
camera out.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I've been training. I don't know you've been training.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Hey, you just I train every day.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, you probably be like your glasses wip sided.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
When I get done with you, okay.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Okay, you can't keep that same energy matter in fact,
I feel so good, I give you five meters.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Huh. If you I'm doing, I give you ninety nine
meters when we go one hundred meters?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What what you're running on, Joe?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
You want to be a forty you want forty sixty
one hundred, two hundred, four hundred.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I don't want to handicap him. I want to give
him a chance to actually try to catch up.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So I'm uh, we'll go. We'll go eighty meters eighty meters?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
How much the first for the first the first sixty
you done? You ain't no chance.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The first ain't be t Oh, hey, that's my dog
that you can't be t Oh, that's my dog.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Listen, I'm a different horse. I'm a different thoroughbred. I
meant I beat you.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
You are a world class athlete, you're a world class sprinter,
and I smoked you.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And I'm just being honest in front of the people.
The world needs to know. I don't want.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
The world need to know that you're the biggest cap
in the history of sports.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I ain't even got no, I got a cap right here.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's about it. Fred, We're gonna get you out of here.
This one handicap to two hundred fours. You got, hey,
you gotta uh. Noah the Jamaican red really good today.
He broke it down, but he looked really good. And
then you got obviously you got Tobogo. You got kidded,
be narrated. How you see the podium?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Hm the podium.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I feel like Noah's gonna take it to Bogo second
and Jamaican third.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Wow. Wow, But I.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Believe, but I believe somebody is injured.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
And out of three of them, so I don't know,
the three of them look injured.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
But you never know.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
So you could tell, you could tell the injured by
just by watching.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, I'm an athlete. I'm I'm like a track athlete,
so you can tell. You can tell people uh forcing
their runs and stuff too. So so those are four
people gonna be on the podium regardless, but you never know.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Right, So you think, you think, and you.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Think Noah's gonna no, It's gonna take it because I
feel like he got something to proved because of what
happened last year.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
But you never know Tobogo sneaky, muter.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Man. Noah came out with the shorts today.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I don't think I've ever seen nor running shorts. Now,
no one would be running the shorts. But I feel
like he got something to proved.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I feel like like.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We're gonna see some some nasty stuff in Tokyo in
a couple of hours.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So you think you think he's still seething from losing
that two hundred in the Olympics getting the bronze because
he really wants to go. I mean the gold medal.
I think the gold, but like you said, the two
hundred of his baby, and he has yet to get
the medal. He's stand on the top of the podium
at the Olympics and so he's like coming back, look here.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Both.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, he got he's got something to prove, like he
got something to proof. And definitely in de Deuce, I
feel like he got something to prove and I feel
like he gonna show the world with Noah's all we've
been knowing. So I feel like he got something to
proving or two. But Tobogo always sneaky. He probably is.
He probably faking like he got injured and just show up.
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What kind of time you think you're looking at? What?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What? What is he going?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I mean the nineteenth he ran nineteen fifty one, which
was the World League.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I feel like they're going.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I feel like they're gonna be between nineteen three and
nineteen seven.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Wo wow. I feel like he's gonna be something fast.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Wow wow, He's gonna be something fast, and I won't
be surprised nineteen two, but I feel like nineteen three
to nineteen seven that is gonna be the winning times.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You think they're in that kind of condition.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I feel like, hey, that's his last race of the year.
He did what he got to do, and they did
some of them, probably draw some of the races. I
feel like history always be determining when championship will come.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
The real dog come at championship, and no.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Approval over the years, you always show up, so he
probably gonna show up.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
How do you like the women? Jerika Jackson looked good.
She ran twenty twenty one, ninety nine. You got MJ.
Melissa Jefferson wouldn't feel like I feel like Melissa gonna
win the two hundred. Hey hey, she shut some people
up this year, so we did. Like I can't like
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my one is like, that's her, you know what I'm saying.
The other two Serika probably be on the podium, and
the third I don't. I don't know about the third
because it's all over the place.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Because you know, we got some faces that fighting just
to run some of them times in the semi final.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Right, all right, Fred, thanks for joining us tonight. We
wish you the best of luck and your appeal of
the suspension. Whatever your endeavors are, we wish you the
best of luck. Man, stay healthy and come back and
join us soon.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, sir, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
After nearly two decades, nineteen years Soigna Richards Ross held
the American record in the four hundred meters at a
time of forty eight to seventy on the exact same
day nineteen years ago. Nineteen years later, Sidney McLaughlin took
it down in the semifinals of the World Track and
Field Championship. McLaughlin Clark forty eight twenty nine. I think
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that's off. Ash's the seventh fastest time in history, not
the eleventh, but it is the fastest time by an American.
She took point four to one seconds off the American record.
Sid says she was shocked at the performance, saying she
wasn't expecting that. That's a blistering time, and she backed
it down at the end. Maybe I'm the only one
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of that lied that will remember when Matalin of Coke
set the world record of forty seven sixty. There's only
been two women that's ever crack sub forty eight. Cratch Alova,
who's an eight hundred meter runner, O Joe, she ran
forty eight ninety. She ran forty seven ninety nine, and
then Coke ended up running forty seven sixty. And if
I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two.
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Now Nasa has been down there. I think she's forty
eight eleven. I think Paulino, who's actually in this race,
I think she's running like forty eight seventeen. Marie Jose Perekt,
the French lady. She's back to back Olympic champ. She
also won the two hundred in Atlanta. She won the
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four and the two. I'm trying to think who else
has been a low time? They had this Russian Brasina,
she ran on the eighty eight team. I think she
was the one to help flow Joe Off. If I'm
not mistaken, O Joe, my memory serves me correct. They've
been a few, Kathy Freeman, they've been some great four
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hundred meter Valerie Brisko hook Kathy Freeman correct, Nasa Polino
Coke cratching LoVa but sending him a Glaughlin.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And she said something very interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
She said, look, let somebody go up under forty eight
before we start talking about forty seven sixty, because I
don't think, I don't think understand what people understand, just
how fast that is for a woman that's book it.
You literally, she's gonna, they're gonna You're gonna probably have
to go out in twenty two seconds and hold it
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and come home in twenty five, twenty five to five.
Let that think end, because normally they're going out in
twenty three and try to come home in twenty five.
She's gonna have to go out in twenty two and
come home in twenty five and a half. She's got
the people in the race that could push her. Nasser
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takes the pace out. Paulino liked the track. She likes,
she like she played with fire there and I almost
didn't make it. But we'll see what her left Sidney.
Sydney's fitness is impeccable. I believe it's gonna take low
forty eight forty eight, oh or they might have to
dip under forty eight in order for her to win
this gold medal.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, when when is that race?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, I think it's today already over there, Well today,
well it'd be to it'll be today for tomorrow for us,
because I think they're day ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, so it'll be Thursday, so it'll be Friday for them.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So then yeah, I mean, said man, And she told
Louis she wasn't expecting that because you know normally, Oh
show you I'm doing just enough when to qualify, get
the third plane, and then now in the finals, I
can drop the hammer. But to run forty eight twenty
nine and take four to one point four to one
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off the American record.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You cruising too, She was cruising. She was cruising.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And see this is why Simke Bowl, the Dutch runner
can't beat in the hurdles.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
She ain't got the foot speed. She got the foot speed, right,
I mean, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
What what were you gonna do with someone that can
run a forty can run forty eight seconds. I mean,
it's gonna be very impressive if she abandoned the hurdles
and sets her sight in twenty eight in the open
door and she get the world record.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
In the in the four and the hurdles.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, Lord, because I didn't think.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody
get this cold record, this forty the record forty years old.
I felt that, Oh to, I mean, nobody's come close.
There's only been two women in the history that's ever
run sub forty eight, So what mad and nobody's coming close?
Like a Nasa ran forty and eleven, but she got
popped right, So like, uh, correct when she ran, when
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she ran the French Runner, when she's a double four hundred,
there ain't been a whole lot of women double up.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I think.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Seanny Miller weibo. I think she doubled up also. But
oh Joe, that's booking.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
That is booking, very and I think people really don't
understand how fast it is in reference you're saying booking
unless you watch track, unless you know track, you ran.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
He realized how hard it is to run, is how
hard it is to run a fifty second lap, unless
that's suspect to run forty nine, to run forty eight
for a woman, and then we talking about forty seven.
If see it gets if see it break this world record,
(33:56):
that record might be like both. You may have to
go three four five by regenerations before you see somebody
break that record. It because I think that's what's gonna
happen with both. Because we haven't seen we haven't seen
anybody come close. The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson
Gay and Johann Blake at nine sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
He was at nine fifty eight.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Hey for boat was moving and everything.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I still believe, oh Yo, had he not celebrated Beijing.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Right, I'm hitting the chest.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He's low, he's low nine fifty. He might even go
not sub nine fifty. That he broke the guys, he's
light years in front of everybody. I just I just
I just wish he I just wish, but he was
so happy. I understand the moment.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I just wish he had ran through the tape.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that
time would have never been broken.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Nobody's ever.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You're gonna have to be on a motorcycle or have
a hurricane behind you. That's the one or two things
you on a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Ye, well that's the album.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But said, she's she's in. She's in phenomenal shape. And
and I think it's gonna take a special time. I
think it's gonna be forty eight oh or sub I
don't think I think the world record is safe.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Me personally, I think the world record is safe.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But I do think forty eight oh or maybe a
tick on the forty eight is doable.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I think it's doable.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And then I think, uh, I think over the next
you know, could she possibly double? They're gonna have to
set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson, Valerie
Brisco Hooks with I forgot about Valerie brisco Hooks.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I forgot. She was a great uh uh.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
She was the first person to pull the double the
four to two and she did it in eighty four.
So we've had Shanja Cheeseborough, We've had some great runners
in the in the four hundred.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Well, hold on, we got agree four hundred runners right
now in the family.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Oh your daughter, yeah, Ray, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Hope I hope you watching.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
You see what Sid doing she had you know, Kentucky too, Yeah,
yeah she out there.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Yeah she had been in Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, she better
be watching.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I think the head coach went, Sid went with drich Floor.
I think he's at University of Texas now. I think so.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at you.
I think he's at UT now. But Sid's booking as
just the it's the seventh fastest, not the eleventh fastest.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Correct, it's the leventh fastest. Nah mm hmmm. I'mna disagree.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Because forty seven sixty, forty seven, ninety nine, forty eight, fourteen,
forty eight, seventeen, forty eight twenty five. Marie Jo was
a prect forty eight to twenty seven OGA Brazilia and
Sydney McLaughlin's number seven at forty eight twenty nine. So
I don't know where they get this from. The level.
The fastest time is by Kathy Freeman forty eight sixty
three at the Olympics in Atlanta. So we're gonna disagree
(37:21):
with We're gonna disagree with USA today at USA Track
and Field. Yeah, I would disagree the level the fast
hold on this says the level fastest time in history.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
How uh, pull it up? Pull it up, pull it up?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Ash right, quick google it because something ain't adding up.
I hope they ain't threw men in there. Oh oh okay,
So what they're doing if she ran more than one
time under the time the sais time, they're counting that.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay, So I was just.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Yeah, but look, I will leave that alone because we
know whether the system that the East Germans and the
Old Soviet had in place.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But let's leave that alone.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Hey, we'll leave that alone.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Ochoe Okay, okay, the eleventh fastest time, the seventh fastest
person because Coke ran two. She ran forty eight sixteen twice,
and she ran forty eight twenty two, so she got
four of the top for the top fast seven seven
times in the country. Gold medal in one hundred and
(38:51):
ten meter hurdles. Grant Holloways trying to four pete. Ocho
has come to an end. Cordial tench Who did I see?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
MJ?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Who I tell I got? Cordell tensc Ran twelve ninety nine.
Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, thirteen oh eight. Tyler Mason Jamaica thirteen twelve,
Richard the Japanese Runner ran thirteen eighteen. Jacoby Tharp ran
thirteen thirty one. So it stays in the house. I
(39:21):
mean it ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Hold on, what flamingo?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
What?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
What place?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
He can you get made it to the finals. It's
been a rough year. I don't know if he's injured.
I don't know what he's dealing with. But he didn't
even make the finals. Yeah, he was a three time
world champion, three consecutive times and he didn't make the finals.
Damn and the fifteen herndit meters Isaac Nator Portugal three
(39:49):
thirty four ten, Jake Rightman, Great Britain three thirty four twelve,
renalds Cheriot Kenya three thirty four to twenty five, Timothy Cheriot,
Kenya three thirty four, fifty, Neil Larrio the Netherlands three
thirty four to fifty two, Robert Farkin, Germany three thirty five.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Josh Kurr was doing Inger Bretson. I don't know what
happened to him, but he didn't make it. Cole Hawker
got disqualified for jostling and Josh curR the reigning world champ.
He dealt with a foot he was dealing with a
camph injury or something. He finished fourteenth and he didn't
make it to the finals.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Man's long jump, the girl.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
The gold went to Ferrolani of Italy eight thirty nine
meters beat Carl Lewis as the record as the youngest
long jump world champion history to tij Gaale Jamaica eight
thirty four shee Joha China eate thirty three.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So damn.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
And the pole vault Mondo duplantis a new world record.
Oh jo six meters thirty he breaks the world He
breaks the world record for the fourteenth time.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Hey, that's that's crazy because you know, you know I
used to pull boat.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Huh yeah, damn No, Lo Carless, what was the record
six thirty meters that's over twenty feet.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did buy seventeen feet by my
junior year.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
The former world record holder run A a Lava Lani
within last place. He was in eighth place at five
meters seventy five. He was the former former world record holder.
And Sam Kendricks of the US five ninety five finished
just just just off the podium.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Dang I remember them days.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Boy, I was scared of Poling and the shot put
Ryan Krauzer in his first meet. He's been dealing with
an elbow injury this entire season, but he came in
and when he needed to be great, he was twenty
two meters thirty four for gold moon yas Mexico twenty
one ninety seven, Silver, Leonardo for Bree Italy twenty one
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ninety four. Tom Walsh of the Netherlands, excuse me, New Zealand,
excuse me, he was twenty one ninety four.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
But it's unbelievable. Probably was able to do. I mean,
just think about Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
The first time he threw the shot in competition was
at the World Championship. Yeah, and he uncorks won twenty
two meters in thirty four on his fifth throw.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
The greatest shot putter in the history.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
He won three consecutive World Championships, He's won three consecutive
gold medals.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Obviously he's given good gear up. Probably I don't know
what how what you do?
Speaker 2 (42:41):
They only got the USA's next year, and then they
got the World Championships in twenty seven, and then you
got the Olympics in twenty eight. He's relocating. His wife's
a doctor. He's moving to Nashville. I think she got
a job at Vanderbilt. I think they're relocating from Texas, Oregon.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Yes, Hey, they didn't force you when you the high
school to run track.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
I ran track, so you ain't do you ain't do
the feeling it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah. I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Okay, I did.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
I did shot putting, I did pole bo I ran
four about one two hundred, I ran the fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I won the Uh I'm a three times state
champ and the triple jump. I won the best performance trophy. Uh,
the farthest jump in the state meet. My senior year,
I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated
in the state track meet. In the state track meet,
my in my classification. My junior year, Yeah, I ran track.
I was pretty good. Got recruited by a lot of schools.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
I still I still got my technique.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Your legs too close together.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I know my furniture white. I can't kick my furniture line.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
But uh, congratulations to all the winners. Ryan crowds of
gold medal.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Uh. In cordial tense unbelievable. We we keep. We keep
the gold here we go, keep that gold medal here
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Oh shoe, we got a very very special guest joining us.
This guy's done something that very few track and field
men in the track and field game.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Has ever done.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
He's one of the few men that has run sub
forty four into four hundred meters, run sub nineteen eight
in the two hundred meters, run sub ninety eight oh
in the one hundred meters. He's a world champion in
the one hundred meters, he's an Olympic silver medalist in
the one hundred meters, and I think he won either
on the world relay team.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Here he is.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Ladies and gentlemen, Fred, curly, Fred, what's going on? Thank
you're mute?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Fred? Can you hear me? Yeah? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Chilling? Chilling, chilling, can't complain.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Let's start with this. You watch see it today? Forty
seven seventy eight two women. I mean, think about it.
You had to go to get on. Basically, to get on,
you got to run one of the ten or eleven fastest
times ever for a woman just to get on the podium.
How impressive what you saw sea It do. Basically, she said,
this year, I've done with the hurdles. I'm not doing
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the hurdles. I'm focusing on the four flat with it,
and her sole purpose is to take that world record
down many thought was untouchable. How impressive? How impressed are
you with what she's doing for it? I think it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
It's something that have not done and been done in
thirty nine years and have somebody great as her to
accomplish that is amazing. And I feel like she still
can go faster. She's just still young and just to
open for her Baby's is four hundred hurdles, but it's
no telling what she can do in the open four.
I feel like she can go even below what she did.
I feel she's still young at it, her body's still young.
(02:02):
I feel like she can do some still can do
some amazing stuff in that open four nimeters.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You believe she can go sub forty seven five.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I feel like she can go faster than that. I
feel like, yo, it's Sydney were talking about yes, yo.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So she got, She.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Got talent that I don't think no woman on this
earth have got all, no woman had discovered yet.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I feel like she's she's amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So every time she touched the track it always have
been a world record. And her young days, so I
feel like the sky is the limit and I feel
like she still got she still got a lot more
in the tank. I feel like that forty seven where
she ran was a chill molde really hmmm when you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Look at it, Fred, I think a part of it
because they're talking now that maybe and Bobby, Bobby Kursey,
he coached flow Joe Gail Devers. Gail Devers are the
two time Olympic hundred meter champ. We know what flowed Joys.
We don't need to say anything. Valerie Brisco at the
time she hooks and now she's Vattery Brisko hook. He
was the first to do the double the four two
(03:05):
in eighty four in La, last time the Olympics were
in La. Guess what in twenty eight the Olympics gonna
be in La. Could you see Bobby Kirsey going to
the Olympic Committee says, look, we want to do something unprecedented.
I feel like that they could do unprecedented is the
four to four.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I feel like she always can't do anything, but he
if the time frame presentable. I feel like any and
no telling what the Olympic Committee can do for any
of us, right right?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You watched? I mean, I don't know how much of
the are you watching the World the World Championship.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I watched you two university or twenty university. I get
all the news when everything come on them channels. I'm
not watching it live.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
How how surprised are you with the way oblique Seville
has run this year, ended up winning the World Championship
one hundred meters. He caught Kashane. Kashane always gets a
great start. I was surprised how how easiest Ville made
it look. Noah got the bronze, but Noah didn't have
a whole lot of races handedicap what.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You saw and what you think happened. I don't think
I saw. Was so much surprised about the race. He
been showing it since I raced him in Jamaica. He like,
it's all about peaking at the right moment. A lot
of at least a lot of athletes have not raced
in September. They in the cities in August each year,
so every time you in your season early, you don't
get that extra boost. And what I saw in the
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one hundred meters, I feel like he was always cable
of doing it.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He's just in up shorthanded, and this year he showed
what it was.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And for Noah, I feel like I don't think he
was so much concentrated on the one hundred this year.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think he was so much concentrated on the two hundred.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
He lost the two hundred last year, and I feel
like he wanted his revenge, the two hundred his baby.
I feel like he want the two hundred more than
a hundred.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah. I think so too, to be a four time.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I mean he's already three peter, so now he wants
the four something that no man on the track.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Has ever done.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
What you say, I think you said it done for
two hundred war he got dq I think he got
dequted and uh and that was just what that was
just one hundred Yeah, yeah, okay, let's let's talk about you. Yes, sir,
you had a worry about violation that you were possibly contesting.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I don't know if you're still gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Still I'm still be contesting. I ain't get no wrong,
So my people are still fighting for all that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, but they said you're the first, if I'm not mistaken,
track and field athlete to be a part of the
enhanced games. Yes, and enhance means break a world record
with enhancing. I mean obviously on the protocol. If you're
trying to fight to say, well, you know what, I
did nothing wrong. This was just to worry about. I mean, uh,
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I'm sorry I didn't give you say. I was in
Miami and I was supposed to be in La or
I was in the Bahamas and I was supposed to
be over here.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Why would you Why would you take this there? Why
would you do the enhanced game? Come test me. You
know what I'm saying. Come test me. I'm not tripping.
You can come to my house at any second, any minute,
in any hour. Come test me. I'm not worried about
no mistesting on nothing. Come test me. I've been clean
my whole entire career. You come test me. Only thing
by signing up to this game, make money, protect my future.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Equity is everything. Ownership is everything for me.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And they did the exact job I got ownership, and
a lot of track athletes when they get done with
this sport, they don't got nothing to go home to.
I've been to two Olympic Games and been world champion, right,
so it's for me. My understanding is I got family
to feed, Right, I'm going home. You know what I'm saying.
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Guess what if I go call somebody asked to tell me,
give you two und k go get a job. I
ain't never had no job, you know what I'm saying.
Only thing I know is my feats running, you know
what I'm saying. So nobody gonna tell me how to
make money and protect my family, my blood line depending
on me. I'm the first one make it out, and
my whole job is continue to if I make a
hundred million dollars, I'm going to continue to make a
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hundred million dollars each and every year. So my whole
job to protect my blood line.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So explain to me. Tell me this free. So tell
me how the whereabouts?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do you Okay, so you give them locations of where
you're gonna be they call you or do you put
something in right at the beginning of the year, it says, okay,
this is why I have a residency here in Texas,
I have a residency in Florida, and I have X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So how did the whereabouts? How does this work?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So whereabouts is basically we fill out each quarter.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They got to know all your location, They got to
know if I'm here where, They got to know everywhere.
So this is basically every quarter you fell out where
you're gonna be. But the problem with that, you never
know where you're going to be. Okay, life is life.
So it's just like you just gotta to give them
an hour. They come after hours, sometimes they come when
they want to.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Simple is that? So?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It basically for me, it just feel like I'm in prison.
My dad been in jail, my dad and my dad
being in prison, he's still on parole. He don't got
to do half of the shit I'm doing to maintain
a paycheck.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Hey yeah, hey Fred.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
That basically that's the same thing with us in the
off season.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Now, it don't matter where you are, they'll always have
you at yes, man, I don't I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It don't matter.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We a Fred.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I remember one one off season, It might have been
after that two thousand and five, two thousand and sixth season,
it didn't matter where I was, Yo.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
But you know the problem with the problem with football
and track, y'all still maintain your contract.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, okay, we don't no no.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Oh. So in other words, you yo, once you get depended,
you get you get no money like U s A
tf us spend my medical stuff? So what what what
somebody like me to like, I'm gotta go get money regardless.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
We don't get nothing like track, track and field not
paying me, sponsorship pay me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So any of your endorsements, I don't got no endorsements.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
To what people talking about is make money at all
costs and protect my kids.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
So I don't care what. I don't care what nobody say.
They not feeding none of them. They're not even feeding me.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You said you want a chance to push your limits,
so you say they can come test you. Now you
know if you take part of this, uh, Fred, You're
probably gonna get a lifetime band.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yo, guess hey, guess what it's doing happening? Gonna do
what you gotta do. Hey, Just like they got people,
I got people, and I'm blessed and I'm highly favored
of the man above.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do you do you think if you were to go
go ahead and and take this process, how do you
think Fred Curley is gonna be remembered? Because, like I said, Fred,
there's not a whole lot of men.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I mean, you're an n c A champ.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You went to the four hundred. I'm stelling in two hunks.
I'm stelling in the testing for okay. I'm still in in
the regular government of testing for okay. So let me
ask you a question. Do they do blood? They do
blood and your they do both. I just I just
got a pissed test today. I'm not tripping.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, you're gonna be good. You gotta good. You're gonna
be good. You see the problem?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I feel like the problem is they're scared to pay
the athletes, you know what I'm saying, So they can't
control us when you're trying to make the other form
of income, you know what I'm saying. So if they
can't control what you got in your pocket, how they're
telling that you got the coaches and stuff making more
than the athletes. Wow, you got agent making more than
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the athletes. You got president making more than the athletes.
They protecting the athletes. You got athletes that can't get sponsorship.
You got athletes that working the job to maintain their livelihood.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So at the end of the day, it's protecting myself
because they don't care about me. It don't matter how
much money I make with endorsements that stuff in right,
and without adorsement, we're not surviving.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right, So let.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Me so, what's what's a what's routine paid for a
diamond league? They say, well, Fred, we want you to come,
couldn't test the one hundred meters?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What? What? What? What? What does the Fred curly get? What?
What is the guy?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Obviously you saying both with a special circumstance. I feel
like I feel like every year been different.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Everything been like I can't tell you on a day
to day or it's whatever the meat gout or whatever
the meet. I think it is the main event of
that championship. Okay, So I can't like every every meet
is not the same.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
The only thing that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Might hundred It might be the hurdles and the two hundred,
it might be the four hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Okay, I'm an American, So America look a little different
for Europeans.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, like we gotta lift.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know what I'm saying, nobody coming to nobody coming
to my rescue, and asked me if I got this
or got that, like nobody care like they people gonna
live on their regular life. If I go, go dead
broke right now. If if I go, oh no, I
don't got it. So it's protect my future, protect my kids.
You know what I'm saying. My leg it's my legacy.
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I did everything in this sport. I'm still doing everything
in this sport.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So let me ask you this. You're still in. You
say you're still in. You're still in the testing pool.
So now you didn't go to the World, so are
you still training? So what so what what is it now?
What what do you do now? Because basically I don't
know if there's anything after the World, and so the
season is basically over.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Are you getting ready for next You're gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Do the world? Your world?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
So I'm not I'm suspended right now, previously suspended, so
they I'm still okay, yeah, so I'm not basically banned
as yet, but they suspended me for competition. Okay, so right,
my lawyer's fighting fighting that, so right now, I forever retraining.
So you just never stopped doing what you do just
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because of this. You never know, you always got to
be prepared for what's what's coming.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Fred.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Let me ask you this, why did you I mean,
you're great four hundred, You're a great. You are a great.
You're gonna pay to be one of the greatest four
hundred meters made. What made you decide to go to
the What made you decide to drop down to do
the one hundred?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
See, like the twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Actually changed everything.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
My coach left me in twenty nineteen to go get
a degree overseas. Twenty twenty, I was aut of coach
twenty twenty one. I was allowed to coach until like
a couple of and that's when I moved to Miami
and start training with coach Joey. And I was still
doing four hundred training. For the four hundred training, you
gotta have somebody there just to push you. The four
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hundred just start getting born. And then all of a sudden,
I'm just like, let me just try this. My ankle
got rolled and stuff, and then I was running on
the hurt leg and that's when God bless me, I said,
I don't know what's next. And then that's when the
hundred just came. I ran one hundred at a meat
I mean attract me in Florida, and that's when the
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repetitions started becoming easy. And that's when I dropped my
first nine and I'm like, I'm going to the Olympics. Yeah,
I'm running the one hundred at the Olympics this year, right,
And a lot of people questioned me around me, even
my coach questioned me at the time. But at the
end of the day, I'm always gonna believe in myself,
my self ability. I won't get into something if I
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know I'm not gonna be good at it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Because it's rare. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We see people do the four drop down to the
two because of the strength training, so you're really good.
We see people do the two drop down to the hundred.
I think, what was the guy he went to LSU
Zavier he won the four hundred hundreds and the man yeah, man,
he won the four and the one and the sec
at LSU and so he is having a promise. So
(14:43):
I don't know if I've ever seen anybody do what
you've done, but it's the times that's most impressive to
go slub forty four, to go sub nineteen eight, to
go sub nine to eight. But for me, do you
know anybody else that's ever done that? Yeah, I do,
besides yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Now, I don't know nobody, But for me, it's just
like it's all about people tell me I can't. I
hate the world I can't. That will make me want
to do it even more. Oh, you can't do this,
you can't do that. Oh Like I heard that plenty
of time when I'm younger. So that's why I'm gonna
go do it. And every time somebody say I can't,
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I've been successful, and hey, you know what I'm saying,
So I can't complain about what God gave me in
my heart to do.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
He pushed me to greater things.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
So when somebody said I can't, that's when I'm gonna
do it, just like I will.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Mosso on o cho sinko.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Right now, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
You know why you're ran forty four?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But it now?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Ask who he trained with?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That was Yo.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
He came to the track like one or two Tom.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
He flew flew by.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
You know what you started he started training for boxing
because I beat him so bad.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
They flew by and he was like, I ain't know
you was that fast to be this old. I was like, yeah,
I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So if this, if this band is lifted, I don't
think there's anything next year but the USA, and then
there's the World's in the twenty seven and then you
got the Olympics in twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So what what is your immediate plans?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I'm still running. I'm still running the game. I got
a salary.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Okay yo, I got a salary, I got equity in
the company. So I'm still running and still run freely.
You know what I'm saying. You can't. People can't to
dyn me of my success. Like like I said, I
ain't really missed no tests. All the misstests I missed
I would attract me, m okay. So I'm not caring
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about none of what people say. But people got to
go into the details and stuff. See, they not popping
people on drugs. They popping people will whereabouts. Yeah, they're
not really doing their job. And guess what, I got
drug tested the next day after the mistest. I'm not
caring about no mistests. I know what's really going down.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And we explained to them too, just because I'm a mayor, just.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Because go ahead, go ahead, Sorry to cut you off
as because like like I have, I had a rough
year and I can't complain, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So it's just like I just gotta do better.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Is it a situation?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They don't give your heads up, They just need you,
so they call you stay an hour.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It's no cause. Yeah, there's no cause. None of that.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
They gotta they gotta.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
At least, it's none of that. It's none of that.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
That's not fair.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It's none of that. To the problem is track and feel.
Are you not making no money? That's how they make
the money. That's why USC dropped them.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah the drug test, Yeah yeah, out of test.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So they said, so they're not really doing their due
diligence and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
With everything you I heard you keep saying America's Americans.
Do you feel that this system is set up to
catch Americans while others countries possibly because everybody don't test
like that, like the American gets right now, I feel
like we live in a time.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Where that peep of late the ol g's and stuff
back in the day fucked it up for us. Sorry
for customs, but they messed it up for us. Okay,
how so you already know just the O G messed
it up for us, Like, okay, so I don't, I don't,
I don't. I don't care about getting tested. You can
test me every day, every minute of the hour. So
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it's just like OG mess it up for us.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So in other words, is like those guys were like, well,
I wasn't there and I'm sorry. And so that's why
they put the whereabout claws in because when they wanted
to test, guys said, well, I was over here over there.
So now they make y'all every quarter, so every three months,
you guys got to feel out, Well, i'm gonna be
in Miami, I'm gonna be in l A, I'm gonna
be in Texas, I'm gonna be in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know, we gotta give them every address.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
If I go out to eat, I gotta put that
address in, like right now, I gotta put this address
every minute. They can srow about do it too much now, y'all, yo,
it's like we in prison, like you got every hour
every everywhere you go, you gotta training block, you gotta
give them an hour if you leave a house to
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go down the street. Hey, they got to know everything.
And that's what people don't realize. Like, I don't yo,
you can come and test me any time, but like
feeling this stuff out every minute, every second is just
like bro y'are doing too much that in vey of
a prophecy and stuff too. When we go overseas, we
gotta fill out every minute, every second everywhere.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know what I'm saying, everywhere you go.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
If I go to a funeral right now, they gotta
know where I'm at at the funeral. People popping people
popping up at restaurants to test us, people popping up
at airport to test us.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, it's basically like we in a plantation. Wow, and
the outside world don't know what's actually going on because
you got people that actually own the stuff but never
getting caught because they getting paid off.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You got active cases right.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Now in track and field that Usader and Water is
not doing nothing about because they're getting paid off. Oh damn,
that's a pretty strong accusation.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Bread.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
There's no as the facts is the facts, simple as that,
and they know it. They got cases going on right now.
You can come and test me any day of the week,
and I'm not tripping. I can show you my my, my.
You know we get every time we do drug tests.
Stuff come to my phone. Negative negative, negative negative.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm not tripping. Have you thought about trans is in
the football? You won't get it tested as much.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No'm baseball. It's guaranteed money.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Fred, you ain't played basketball in twenty years. You ain't
finn hit. No people, I've been playing. Yo, I don't
got the You don't yo. I can play what you
gonna Fred? What position you're gonna play for?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Fred?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Center field? You know they hit they hit in center field? Right?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, you know my speed, I know how to catch.
You can. Hey, I know you're.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Here somewhere in this county where I'm at. You can
come check me out.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Hold on, you can hit the ball.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yes, I can hit the ball.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm not in Miami. I'm talking to uncle was for
to say, let go to the batcage this weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Are you gonna be here? Yeah? You know I was.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I was a five too, Like you know, they would.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Trying to you say you're good at everything.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
No, I promise, I promise. You know the mall Is
try to draft me in ninety seven out of.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
High spital y'all, Florida, Florida, guys, y'all gotta stop for real.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
That's like when I beat you when we was out
there training, Like you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I know, I know one of the greatest runners in America.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Here.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I know you ain't letting this man come off the
street and beat you.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Fred Yo, you talk about oh to hey, he thinks
he good at everything.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You see what he thought.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He was about to get a soccer ticket to look
at him.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You think you're good at everything, man.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Be honest right here now.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I didn't beat you when we ran two fifties.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I ain't never doing on two fifteen training in years.
So what you're talking about what we were doing that day?
How were we doing? I think what we were doing something?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I ran it with you.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't know what were we doing.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I blew bidio mans. I know that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I just want to know what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Hey, we came this weekend.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Oh hey, I got my camera ready, Well bring your
camera out.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I've been training. I don't know you've been training.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Hey, you just I train every day.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, you probably be like your glasses wip sided.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
When I get done with you, okay.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Okay, you can't keep that same energy matter in fact,
I feel so good, I give you five meters.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Huh. If you I'm doing, I give you ninety nine
meters when we go one hundred meters?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What what you're running on, Joe?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
You want to be a forty you want forty sixty
one hundred, two hundred, four hundred.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I don't want to handicap him. I want to give
him a chance to actually try to catch up.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So I'm uh, we'll go. We'll go eighty meters eighty meters?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
How much the first for the first the first sixty
you done? You ain't no chance.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The first ain't be t Oh, hey, that's my dog
that you can't be t Oh, that's my dog.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Listen, I'm a different horse. I'm a different thoroughbred. I
meant I beat you.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
You are a world class athlete, you're a world class sprinter,
and I smoked you.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And I'm just being honest in front of the people.
The world needs to know. I don't want.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
The world need to know that you're the biggest cap
in the history of sports.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I ain't even got no, I got a cap right here.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's about it. Fred, We're gonna get you out of here.
This one handicap to two hundred fours. You got, hey,
you gotta uh. Noah the Jamaican red really good today.
He broke it down, but he looked really good. And
then you got obviously you got Tobogo. You got kidded,
be narrated. How you see the podium?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Hm the podium.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I feel like Noah's gonna take it to Bogo second
and Jamaican third.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Wow. Wow, But I.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Believe, but I believe somebody is injured.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
And out of three of them, so I don't know,
the three of them look injured.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
But you never know.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
So you could tell, you could tell the injured by
just by watching.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, I'm an athlete. I'm I'm like a track athlete,
so you can tell. You can tell people uh forcing
their runs and stuff too. So so those are four
people gonna be on the podium regardless, but you never know.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Right, So you think, you think, and you.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Think Noah's gonna no, It's gonna take it because I
feel like he got something to proved because of what
happened last year.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
But you never know Tobogo sneaky, muter.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Man. Noah came out with the shorts today.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I don't think I've ever seen nor running shorts. Now,
no one would be running the shorts. But I feel
like he got something to proved.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I feel like like.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We're gonna see some some nasty stuff in Tokyo in
a couple of hours.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So you think you think he's still seething from losing
that two hundred in the Olympics getting the bronze because
he really wants to go. I mean the gold medal.
I think the gold, but like you said, the two
hundred of his baby, and he has yet to get
the medal. He's stand on the top of the podium
at the Olympics and so he's like coming back, look here.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Both.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, he got he's got something to prove, like he
got something to proof. And definitely in de Deuce, I
feel like he got something to prove and I feel
like he gonna show the world with Noah's all we've
been knowing. So I feel like he got something to
proving or two. But Tobogo always sneaky. He probably is.
He probably faking like he got injured and just show up.
(26:23):
What kind of time you think you're looking at? What?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What? What is he going?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I mean the nineteenth he ran nineteen fifty one, which
was the World League.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I feel like they're going.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I feel like they're gonna be between nineteen three and
nineteen seven.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Wo wow. I feel like he's gonna be something fast.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Wow wow, He's gonna be something fast, and I won't
be surprised nineteen two, but I feel like nineteen three
to nineteen seven that is gonna be the winning times.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You think they're in that kind of condition.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I feel like, hey, that's his last race of the year.
He did what he got to do, and they did
some of them, probably draw some of the races. I
feel like history always be determining when championship will come.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
The real dog come at championship, and no.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Approval over the years, you always show up, so he
probably gonna show up.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
How do you like the women? Jerika Jackson looked good.
She ran twenty twenty one, ninety nine. You got MJ.
Melissa Jefferson wouldn't feel like I feel like Melissa gonna
win the two hundred. Hey hey, she shut some people
up this year, so we did. Like I can't like
(27:33):
my one is like, that's her, you know what I'm saying.
The other two Serika probably be on the podium, and
the third I don't. I don't know about the third
because it's all over the place.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Because you know, we got some faces that fighting just
to run some of them times in the semi final.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Right, all right, Fred, thanks for joining us tonight. We
wish you the best of luck and your appeal of
the suspension. Whatever your endeavors are, we wish you the
best of luck. Man, stay healthy and come back and
join us soon.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, sir, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
After nearly two decades, nineteen years Soigna Richards Ross held
the American record in the four hundred meters at a
time of forty eight to seventy on the exact same
day nineteen years ago. Nineteen years later, Sidney McLaughlin took
it down in the semifinals of the World Track and
Field Championship. McLaughlin Clark forty eight twenty nine. I think
(28:32):
that's off. Ash's the seventh fastest time in history, not
the eleventh, but it is the fastest time by an American.
She took point four to one seconds off the American record.
Sid says she was shocked at the performance, saying she
wasn't expecting that. That's a blistering time, and she backed
it down at the end. Maybe I'm the only one
(28:53):
of that lied that will remember when Matalin of Coke
set the world record of forty seven sixty. There's only
been two women that's ever crack sub forty eight. Cratch Alova,
who's an eight hundred meter runner, O Joe, she ran
forty eight ninety. She ran forty seven ninety nine, and
then Coke ended up running forty seven sixty. And if
I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two.
(29:16):
Now Nasa has been down there. I think she's forty
eight eleven. I think Paulino, who's actually in this race,
I think she's running like forty eight seventeen. Marie Jose Perekt,
the French lady. She's back to back Olympic champ. She
also won the two hundred in Atlanta. She won the
(29:37):
four and the two. I'm trying to think who else
has been a low time? They had this Russian Brasina,
she ran on the eighty eight team. I think she
was the one to help flow Joe Off. If I'm
not mistaken, O Joe, my memory serves me correct. They've
been a few, Kathy Freeman, they've been some great four
(29:59):
hundred meter Valerie Brisko hook Kathy Freeman correct, Nasa Polino
Coke cratching LoVa but sending him a Glaughlin.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And she said something very interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
She said, look, let somebody go up under forty eight
before we start talking about forty seven sixty, because I
don't think, I don't think understand what people understand, just
how fast that is for a woman that's book it.
You literally, she's gonna, they're gonna You're gonna probably have
to go out in twenty two seconds and hold it
(30:31):
and come home in twenty five, twenty five to five.
Let that think end, because normally they're going out in
twenty three and try to come home in twenty five.
She's gonna have to go out in twenty two and
come home in twenty five and a half. She's got
the people in the race that could push her. Nasser
(30:52):
takes the pace out. Paulino liked the track. She likes,
she like she played with fire there and I almost
didn't make it. But we'll see what her left Sidney.
Sydney's fitness is impeccable. I believe it's gonna take low
forty eight forty eight, oh or they might have to
dip under forty eight in order for her to win
this gold medal.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, when when is that race?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, I think it's today already over there, Well today,
well it'd be to it'll be today for tomorrow for us,
because I think they're day ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, so it'll be Thursday, so it'll be Friday for them.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So then yeah, I mean, said man, And she told
Louis she wasn't expecting that because you know normally, Oh
show you I'm doing just enough when to qualify, get
the third plane, and then now in the finals, I
can drop the hammer. But to run forty eight twenty
nine and take four to one point four to one
(31:52):
off the American record.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You cruising too, She was cruising. She was cruising.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And see this is why Simke Bowl, the Dutch runner
can't beat in the hurdles.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
She ain't got the foot speed. She got the foot speed, right,
I mean, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
What what were you gonna do with someone that can
run a forty can run forty eight seconds. I mean,
it's gonna be very impressive if she abandoned the hurdles
and sets her sight in twenty eight in the open
door and she get the world record.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
In the in the four and the hurdles.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, Lord, because I didn't think.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody
get this cold record, this forty the record forty years old.
I felt that, Oh to, I mean, nobody's come close.
There's only been two women in the history that's ever
run sub forty eight, So what mad and nobody's coming close?
Like a Nasa ran forty and eleven, but she got
popped right, So like, uh, correct when she ran, when
(33:07):
she ran the French Runner, when she's a double four hundred,
there ain't been a whole lot of women double up.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I think.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Seanny Miller weibo. I think she doubled up also. But
oh Joe, that's booking.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
That is booking, very and I think people really don't
understand how fast it is in reference you're saying booking
unless you watch track, unless you know track, you ran.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
He realized how hard it is to run, is how
hard it is to run a fifty second lap, unless
that's suspect to run forty nine, to run forty eight
for a woman, and then we talking about forty seven.
If see it gets if see it break this world record,
(33:56):
that record might be like both. You may have to
go three four five by regenerations before you see somebody
break that record. It because I think that's what's gonna
happen with both. Because we haven't seen we haven't seen
anybody come close. The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson
Gay and Johann Blake at nine sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
He was at nine fifty eight.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Hey for boat was moving and everything.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I still believe, oh Yo, had he not celebrated Beijing.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Right, I'm hitting the chest.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He's low, he's low nine fifty. He might even go
not sub nine fifty. That he broke the guys, he's
light years in front of everybody. I just I just
I just wish he I just wish, but he was
so happy. I understand the moment.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I just wish he had ran through the tape.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that
time would have never been broken.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Nobody's ever.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You're gonna have to be on a motorcycle or have
a hurricane behind you. That's the one or two things
you on a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Ye, well that's the album.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But said, she's she's in. She's in phenomenal shape. And
and I think it's gonna take a special time. I
think it's gonna be forty eight oh or sub I
don't think I think the world record is safe.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Me personally, I think the world record is safe.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But I do think forty eight oh or maybe a
tick on the forty eight is doable.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I think it's doable.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And then I think, uh, I think over the next
you know, could she possibly double? They're gonna have to
set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson, Valerie
Brisco Hooks with I forgot about Valerie brisco Hooks.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I forgot. She was a great uh uh.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
She was the first person to pull the double the
four to two and she did it in eighty four.
So we've had Shanja Cheeseborough, We've had some great runners
in the in the four hundred.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Well, hold on, we got agree four hundred runners right
now in the family.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Oh your daughter, yeah, Ray, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Hope I hope you watching.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
You see what Sid doing she had you know, Kentucky too, Yeah,
yeah she out there.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Yeah she had been in Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, she better
be watching.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I think the head coach went, Sid went with drich Floor.
I think he's at University of Texas now. I think so.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at you.
I think he's at UT now. But Sid's booking as
just the it's the seventh fastest, not the eleventh fastest.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Correct, it's the leventh fastest. Nah mm hmmm. I'mna disagree.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Because forty seven sixty, forty seven, ninety nine, forty eight, fourteen,
forty eight, seventeen, forty eight twenty five. Marie Jo was
a prect forty eight to twenty seven OGA Brazilia and
Sydney McLaughlin's number seven at forty eight twenty nine. So
I don't know where they get this from. The level.
The fastest time is by Kathy Freeman forty eight sixty
three at the Olympics in Atlanta. So we're gonna disagree
(37:21):
with We're gonna disagree with USA today at USA Track
and Field. Yeah, I would disagree the level the fast
hold on this says the level fastest time in history.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
How uh, pull it up? Pull it up, pull it up?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Ash right, quick google it because something ain't adding up.
I hope they ain't threw men in there. Oh oh okay,
So what they're doing if she ran more than one
time under the time the sais time, they're counting that.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay, So I was just.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Yeah, but look, I will leave that alone because we
know whether the system that the East Germans and the
Old Soviet had in place.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But let's leave that alone.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Hey, we'll leave that alone.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Ochoe Okay, okay, the eleventh fastest time, the seventh fastest
person because Coke ran two. She ran forty eight sixteen twice,
and she ran forty eight twenty two, so she got
four of the top for the top fast seven seven
times in the country. Gold medal in one hundred and
(38:51):
ten meter hurdles. Grant Holloways trying to four pete. Ocho
has come to an end. Cordial tench Who did I see?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
MJ?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Who I tell I got? Cordell tensc Ran twelve ninety nine.
Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, thirteen oh eight. Tyler Mason Jamaica thirteen twelve,
Richard the Japanese Runner ran thirteen eighteen. Jacoby Tharp ran
thirteen thirty one. So it stays in the house. I
(39:21):
mean it ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Hold on, what flamingo?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
What?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
What place?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
He can you get made it to the finals. It's
been a rough year. I don't know if he's injured.
I don't know what he's dealing with. But he didn't
even make the finals. Yeah, he was a three time
world champion, three consecutive times and he didn't make the finals.
Damn and the fifteen herndit meters Isaac Nator Portugal three
(39:49):
thirty four ten, Jake Rightman, Great Britain three thirty four twelve,
renalds Cheriot Kenya three thirty four to twenty five, Timothy Cheriot,
Kenya three thirty four, fifty, Neil Larrio the Netherlands three
thirty four to fifty two, Robert Farkin, Germany three thirty five.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Josh Kurr was doing Inger Bretson. I don't know what
happened to him, but he didn't make it. Cole Hawker
got disqualified for jostling and Josh curR the reigning world champ.
He dealt with a foot he was dealing with a
camph injury or something. He finished fourteenth and he didn't
make it to the finals.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Man's long jump, the girl.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
The gold went to Ferrolani of Italy eight thirty nine
meters beat Carl Lewis as the record as the youngest
long jump world champion history to tij Gaale Jamaica eight
thirty four shee Joha China eate thirty three.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So damn.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
And the pole vault Mondo duplantis a new world record.
Oh jo six meters thirty he breaks the world He
breaks the world record for the fourteenth time.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Hey, that's that's crazy because you know, you know I
used to pull boat.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Huh yeah, damn No, Lo Carless, what was the record
six thirty meters that's over twenty feet.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did buy seventeen feet by my
junior year.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
The former world record holder run A a Lava Lani
within last place. He was in eighth place at five
meters seventy five. He was the former former world record holder.
And Sam Kendricks of the US five ninety five finished
just just just off the podium.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Dang I remember them days.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Boy, I was scared of Poling and the shot put
Ryan Krauzer in his first meet. He's been dealing with
an elbow injury this entire season, but he came in
and when he needed to be great, he was twenty
two meters thirty four for gold moon yas Mexico twenty
one ninety seven, Silver, Leonardo for Bree Italy twenty one
(42:03):
ninety four. Tom Walsh of the Netherlands, excuse me, New Zealand,
excuse me, he was twenty one ninety four.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
But it's unbelievable. Probably was able to do. I mean,
just think about Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
The first time he threw the shot in competition was
at the World Championship. Yeah, and he uncorks won twenty
two meters in thirty four on his fifth throw.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
The greatest shot putter in the history.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
He won three consecutive World Championships, He's won three consecutive
gold medals.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Obviously he's given good gear up. Probably I don't know
what how what you do?
Speaker 2 (42:41):
They only got the USA's next year, and then they
got the World Championships in twenty seven, and then you
got the Olympics in twenty eight. He's relocating. His wife's
a doctor. He's moving to Nashville. I think she got
a job at Vanderbilt. I think they're relocating from Texas, Oregon.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Yes, Hey, they didn't force you when you the high
school to run track.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
I ran track, so you ain't do you ain't do
the feeling it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah. I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Okay, I did.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
I did shot putting, I did pole bo I ran
four about one two hundred, I ran the fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I won the Uh I'm a three times state
champ and the triple jump. I won the best performance trophy. Uh,
the farthest jump in the state meet. My senior year,
I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated
in the state track meet. In the state track meet,
my in my classification. My junior year, Yeah, I ran track.
I was pretty good. Got recruited by a lot of schools.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
I still I still got my technique.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Your legs too close together.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I know my furniture white. I can't kick my furniture line.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
But uh, congratulations to all the winners. Ryan crowds of
gold medal.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Uh. In cordial tense unbelievable. We we keep. We keep
the gold here we go, keep that gold medal here
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