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Speaker 1 (00:00):
People going to Dubai to get shiitted on for fifty
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hummus BUKACKI that's what they call it. Look it up.
They're getting fucked by German shepherds.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
And how much how much would you take to get to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Get shitted on? I probably would have million dollar?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I don't know, twenty five thousand. Fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
No, I don't think I can get no, because I
think that I will be traumatized my piece of thousand.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, I'm not getting shitted on for a hundred million.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
No, I don't think a million dollars here, let me go.
I can't million. No, it's only gonna take five minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And what do I do? I have to do this?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Just sit right later.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And you're throwing you put on your mouth and everything.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
No, it's wet. It's wet though.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
A million.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Even watch that. I'll go to shower a million. I
don't know one million dollar mint?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Is it in the mouth? Is it in the mouth.
It's not in the mouth. It's not in the mountains.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
If it's not in the mouth, is it in the
and everything? Is it in the nose?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Listen, man, listen? A million dollars.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Stop making spect stop stop putting stipulations on this. You're
getting a million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Shut up five minutes.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
It's only gonna take less than that probably, and that's it.
It's diarrhea though.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh a million.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't know tax free alright, going about watch this
all because that's what I heard they doing to the bay.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
They are doing that, but they're not getting a million.
You got theer, they're getting fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
What if you got you got the offer? Did you
get an offer from Dubai.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I've always got an offer.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Let's keep it wide.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
She got off.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Side of the contract. She just signed the contract. I
haven't able to have and baby, I haven't took anything.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Now when I meet girls, this is what I'm gonna
be like, Hey, have you been to Dubai?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
If they say yes, I've never been. No, no, no,
this is my thing.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
If I like, hey, you know, have you been to
dubais You're like, yeah, I've been to Dubai.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm gonna know they got they had to what's the
age limit? Age limit as far as.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Youth to what's the youngest to the oldest, Like, what's
their range?
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Tell myself right now, I would say right like right now,
at my age, right now, Yeah, I would not date
younger than twenty five, twenty six?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Why I thought she was going would say, I thought she.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Was going to like thirty.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Oh no, I mean I don't. I don't think I could.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I don't know. I'm not gonna get up here and lie.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Young young men are very aggressive and they do not
care how old I am.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
What joy I have to ask you, because this is
a whole thing with women twenty this young.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Man they're saying, no, you ain't about to have me
out here.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
On the bullshit?
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Is they grown?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Say?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
The twenty five year old men are where it's at.
All the older That's what I'm trying to say. The
women that I've been talking to, like in their thirties,
late thirties, they're like yo's are like these younger men.
They come, they're intentional, they come with it. They're like
not playing around. They want to date you. They like
treat you like you're a goddess. They appreciate you, they
(03:32):
talk life into you. Like I am hearing that these
younger men, from all these women, they are where it's at.
I've never dated a younger man before. No, I've never
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
At this point, they're talking about this is the truth.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
After dark, they're telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is what I'm hearing. And even though I don't.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Like it's twenty, I don't want to be clear here
because I'm not. I don't like twenty five is a
grown man.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a grown man. Okay, you're not on Bush twenty five.
The internet being no. Twenty five is wrong. And the
ones that have approached me, they are, They're like, well.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
I would say twenty five to I would say twenty five,
I'd say twenty five, toy like probably probably like seventy seventy.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Jesus, the spur range. Twenty five to seventy is a
crazy range. Okay.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
But here's the thing about older men, though, Okay, tell
me to be clear, like I ate I date within
five years of my age range, Like I don't know.
I'm just answering the question. If you see me pull
up with a seventy year old, don't ask any fucking questions. Okay,
he's got a plane. I'm doing this for all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Your hurt me answer questions better? You better dapping up?
Pull what's up?
Speaker 8 (04:43):
Wrong?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Da?
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Da da get yeah, very real nice.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We're gonna treat him real good. Like everything is normal.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Everything is normal, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But you know, like my dad is seventy seven, was
so good, I mean amazing. My dad is like tall,
dark cancer, he looks all like even the housekeepers.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
You know what I like with older men.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Older men are have great stories.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I like to talk.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
They got all the stories.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
They're very confident, they appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
They they're very sweet.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I can't have sex with an old wrinkley penis. I'm
so scared. That's my only thing. I'm like, why do
you think they're wrinklely?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Are they aren't all penises wrinkley?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
M I don't know.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Maybe I mean at one point throughout the day all
penises are wrinkling.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You're right, when they're soft at the beginning.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
At the beginning, you're right, and today in rast stay
but they say they're like kind of like one big wrinkle.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You're right, And they say older men don't even want to.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Have sex like that, so hey, that might.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Be a good look, but I don't even I don't
really be having these kind of conversations with people because
it's like I'm talking to you know most of the
time when I used to you not doing it to
me right now, butter, And there's no disrespect to you.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But I just been through the ringer with it.
Speaker 10 (06:08):
Because they would take it and use it for clickbait,
and I'm like, I'm actually just But have you ever
masturbated and felt guilty and shameful afterwards?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Man?
Speaker 9 (06:22):
Have you ever watched porn and masturbated and celebrated another
man's success, Because like, I don't watch porn because I
noticed my neal my neural paths start changed.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I used to though I don't think I've ever been
into porn.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Yeah, that's beautiful. I was at one time. I used
to be watching porn.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Talk my man, that nigga killing that whole son.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
You know, and I used to get I used to
sit down and masturbate and watch porn. I used to
sneak and do it till one time his brother had
told me, he say, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That self mutilation.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Muh huh, He said, you celebrating to an you dragging
off to another man's success. It's other ways to stimulate
yourself mentally. And then he started telling me about sex transmutation,
where you could take that sexual energy and channel it
into your workouts, into your craft, into your music you
were traveling in, channel it into whatever it is that
(07:17):
you focused on at the time. And that's when I
was like, that's crazy. Like, if you pleasure driven, you
develop addictions, if you purpose driven, you develop riches.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And not just with wealth of a pocket, but of
the heart and of the man.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
Yeah, because like I'm a freak for like new information,
Like I love to be stimulated mentally, right, Like I
love conversations that leave me feeling refreshed. You ever had
a conversation with somebody and I was like, it's draining
talking to you, it's draining around you.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I said, you didn't have conversations with stimulate you. It's like, yes,
it's like pouring hold on, this is going crazy. I'm
talking meant the Safari man.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I've had that. I've had that with her.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
It's intellectual intercourse like conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So it's like, damn, that's beautiful. It is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So when you like, when you have that with uh female,
that's like a turn on, right or how does it?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It depends on her spirit? H Like for me, it
depends because that don't come around. That don't happen a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's gonna happen like once every blue blue move to
where it's gonna be a because most of the time
I have a conversation with somebody and I'm just sitting
there just like it's sounding like YadA YadA YadA.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
You know. Sometimes, you know, sometimes we're not protective of
our energy in the way that we should be. Because
sometimes I say, excuse me, sometime I say, I'm here
responsible for the places that I place myself.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But that's physically right.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
But I've been working with this other guy, you know
what the fascion is. So we've been working on like
releasing like shortain traumas in your fashion, and we've been
working on that, and he's told me something that was
so beautiful. He said, the physical, the mental, the spiritualist
all one system. If one thing's off, everything's off. And
(09:31):
I said, wow, and it it intrigued me to the
point I was like, I'm not overprotective of myself where
I place myself energetically and spiritually and psychologically. I need
to start being more cognitive in these areas. Physically, I
know certain areas and certain places I'm not gonna place myself,
but it's certain places I shouldn't even place myself energetically,
(09:55):
all spiritually, all psychologically. And I was like, you know what,
it's not because I feel like i'm building. It's because
I know I am.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
I know you did hold on while you hang up? Okay, okay,
they said, what's up?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He trying to tell you, Hey, what up? Son? That's
Paul Pierce the Legend.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm right here doing a podcast right now working.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I was about to text you, but you just called
five more times like you assisted on talking? What's up?
What's the question? You are on camera? Don't say nothing? Crazy, bro?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I told you I'm gonna bring you out for sure.
I got you. We can't say the date because I'm
being recorded right now. It's a surprise. Yeah, I got you.
He wanted to be a rapper. So what what do
you saying. I'm gonna give you some of my back end.
I give you a list something, man.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got a list up, some funny.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
I gotta list up some fake So I'm gonna call
you when I'm doing Man, I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Get some money.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The size matter to women? You answer that now I
can answer. I would say it does to a certain degree,
like if you just have a little little thing, like
they're not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Able to feel it at Papa Georgio nine, they're not.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Gonna feel it. You went to the next question.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
What do you want to say if it's this like.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Very aquaintable, like what's what's is that a word equitable?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
What equates? So like quitable.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Nine?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Ten?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Like what what's what? What?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I don't know about inches and things with these penis things.
I can only say this, like I have had sex
with a man and I'm like, oh, yes, this fits
for me. This is me and I've had sex with
the man who I was dating, and I'm like, this
penis is not for me.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I could just tell, like.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's not mine, Like I could tell if it's mine
or not.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
How long is you dam we were there for a year?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
How did last alone?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Like he did other things that you know, pleased me,
what like gave me head and stuff and I would come,
you know, like from that and so that was great.
So I enjoyed that, but it just wasn't feeling like anything,
like I just wanted to move on. I wasn't feeling
(12:35):
the connection. I didn't feel like it was it was
a deep connection or whatever. Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So at Papa Georgio.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Nine, men have simple needs. Why do men struggle? Why
do women struggle to meet them?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
That's a great question, I will I don't know. I
don't know why women struggle to me a man's needs
because a man's needs are free. A woman's needs cost money.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, that's true most of them.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I mean, you can talk about id love and a
faction out or no, nah, we know what you need.
It costs money all that. That's what the world we
live in. If he came in my lifestyle, a man
ain't never shooting nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Maybe rub my neck, rub my back. That don't cost nothing.
You make me some food.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I'm at fact, I'll pay for the food for you
to make it. It don't cost nothing for a woman
to please a man. It costs money for a warm
man to please a woman.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You want to know what else I'll say, and I'll
make it quick. I feel like men were raised on
how to treat a woman well, and women were raised
how to treat a woman well by their mothers, you know,
or whoever was around. Like it's all about like you
need to do this for you open the door, do this.
And women were treated on how to get what they
need from a man. They were never, they were never,
(14:06):
they were never taught. Women are not taught to do
these things for men. Now, other cultures, which is what
you would say an American woman, or even other cultures
like my mom's Persian, I've seen that they're very submissive,
you have to do all this. But most American culture,
people they are not taught to, especially black women.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Don't kill me.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But I feel like a lot of women were raised
by independent mothers. So for them, they wanted to protect
their child and they wanted their child not to be
in their position.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So in order to protect.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Their child, it was like, look, this is what you
need from a man, and if he's not doing this,
this and this and this, you're not supposed to mess
with up. And a man was taught how to give
the needs to a woman. You're supposed to open a door,
you're supposed to make sure you have this, have enough
money to take care of her, take her on a date,
do this. So women were not taught that. A lot
of women period, And that's just what I think. Don't
shoot me and don't kill me.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Off of that one at seat one B.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Should a man with no kids at age thirty eight
date a woman with kids or solely date women with
no kids?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
If you're thirty eight, I have to just kind of
look at your financial situation because most men at thirty
eight with no kids and uncomfortable financial situation, it's going
to take a younger woman around the age of twenty
six that got no kids that like he can probably
(15:34):
like have some kids with and grow some with.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think, what if she's twenty six and has kids though.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Well, if he thirty and got no kids, he could
just find somebody that's twenty six with my kids.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, what if he doesn't want to date someone that's
twelve years younger than him because it's not relatable and
he actually wants a woman of his age or close
to his age.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Have you ever thought of that?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Why would he do that?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Why wouldn't he do that? Why wouldn't some want to
relate to someone in twenty six? They don't even know
how to put on motion on their women clean their assholes?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What do you mean? What if someone doesn't want to
be dating someone.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So twenty should have thirty eight or with no kids? Day?
What's the age should he day.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He didn't ask, he's gonna be if he's.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Talking to somebody thirty three enough, they gonna have kids
and he ain't got no kids. So now I'm gonna
just put myself in a situation where dating you and
I'm with you, and I just myself into a fairly situation.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I don't have kids, and I'm in my thirties, my
early early thirties, so not every Yeah, so there's women
that are in their thirties that don't have children a
lot because women are now statistically having more children in
their forties.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's a statistic.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
So most women who went on got no kids, and
they men thirties are cut.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I'm not saying that's you.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well, I'm almost like no, Like, clearly there's men out
there that I see on the messages that want to
have kids with you and do all that with you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I get it, But like most.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Women in that situation, that's so great bad.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And you know what, I'm gonna say this and I'm
done and I'm done with the podcast. I'm gonna say
that I'm thirty four, I'm not in my mid thirties.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But next year I will be mid thirties, I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And you know, I've had plenty of opportunities to have
children with men who wanted me to have their children.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Am I cooked? Or am I smart?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Because I would have been somebody's baby mama? Because that
wasn't a connection. A lot of these women with children
are baby mothers and they're not wives. Okay, so I
can have a baby. Having a baby is easy. I'm
very fertile, like a Latina. I'm fertile as hell, and
I can have a baby any moment right now. And
I've been in a situation where I could have had that.
So am I cooked? Or am I smart? Because right
(17:53):
now I could have been here with two children with
a man that I don't even want to be with.
I could be married. I know plenty of people who
are married people they don't even fuck with, just to
say that they have a child and they have a husband.
I'm so sorry that I didn't want to be another
fucking statistic, but I'm cooked. I think I'm very fucking smart. Actually,
I think that I'm very smart that I'm not spending
(18:14):
my time mothering a child by a man that I
don't even want to be with, not being in the
same household as that man, because every man I've ever
been with I did not want to be with him
because I was not at the level of maturity.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That I am now. I'm not at the mental maturity
that I.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Am now, and I have not evolved to attract that
certain type of partner. I've done the work, and unfortunately,
I've been through a lot of shit in my life
that made my journey a little slower than most.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
But I'm the one, never the two. Are you falling
asleep off my conversation? Fuck you? You are away?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You're telling me I'm taking log You know how long
you take to say so?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
This is fucked up. I'm getting off of this.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Can you started the movement in the hashtag of black men,
don't you?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And so that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So let's get into this. And then and then you
said something that like that, I love. You said, but
if your woman is white, you could cheat? Yeah, So
what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Let's get into why is if they're white you could cheat.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Because there's a white woman. You shouldn't be in a
black man business like that?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh come on now, but what are you all together?
They came in.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
You just you just together like like that's that's the relationship.
Like hold on this my girl and she a white lady.
She can't go through your phone.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
She can't. Why why are you doing that? You trying?
She really saying you don't trust me? And I'm a
black man.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
What other reason do you have not to trust me
other than I'm black?
Speaker 11 (19:55):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:59):
Ship?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Okay, So would that be the reason why black men
they white women?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I saw that because I wanted to ask what was
your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
What do you think? Why do you like?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Now?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Why? Question? The question was more like athletes and.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Asked about the athletes, but in general general, why do
black men date white women?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
In your opinion? Just be honest. Is it because they're
more easy?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
And I say, how you gonna say they more easy?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm asking, I say, quote onqut it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Of different reasons.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I think it's just my opinion, no doubt. Like my
observations and the things that I've seen, white women make
themselves more available in what ways they be around, They
show up, they know where the athlete is gonna be
at I have heard, and then with the athletes and
all that ship like you got to keep in mind
(20:55):
it's like tears to the like college and then like
the profession. Knowing shit like that, they hang around around,
they linger. They'll watch you strike out all night and
it don't affect your chances with them another. They want
to be down, so they make themselves more available to
the ship as opposed to playing hard to get. Act
(21:16):
like you don't know this motherfucker. They's knowing, they knowice that.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
But I'm gonna say this, and I really want everyone
to hear me when I say this.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Right now though, listen to this, though.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I want black men to learn and really do better,
because one thing about these white women is as soon
as they don't get their way or something rubs them
the wrong way, you are at n word hard we
are and that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You'll be that anyway, but you're.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Really gonna be that, and they gonna take you to
court and take everything you han because unfortunately, although black
women are powerful in our feminine and are divine just
how we are as women were so powerful, but white
women are powerful in America and when they say something,
it's going to make a difference in the community, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And y'all all keep messing with these white women.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Woman.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But I haven't even seen problem with white women.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm just saying black men do this, and then when
they're coming down and have their downfall with these women,
they want to run to the black women for support.
And it's like no, at the end of the day,
black women are the most loyal.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Statistically to their own men.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And people can say I'm not black or whatever it is,
but I date black men at it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And also, to your point, black men don't cheat. Every
black man I've been with half cheated.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
That sounds like a personal problem.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
How is that my problem?
Speaker 6 (22:29):
What are you doing is making these man cheat on you?
So this is where I probably don't let him.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Talk and get all and be accusing them of being
with white women. Yeah, you projected on me and I
just got here. I'm gonna get I could definitely see
cheating on you your imagination.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
No, no, no, because I saw you say that when
people cheat, they just cheat and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
It doesn't make you less as a woman or a
man because.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
People, Yeah, what have you giving up in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do you feel the difference between compromise. Do you feel
like there's a difference between compromise and sacrifice.
Speaker 12 (23:09):
I think men always have to do a little bit more, honestly,
that's my honest opinion.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Men always have to do a little bit more compromising,
a little bit more.
Speaker 12 (23:17):
And it's not by a lot, it's not like, but
it's a little bit more. We got to swallow the
pill a little bit more than you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Want to explain.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean, he's.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
More. I want to hear why.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Okay, because we got more ego to yes that.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
I think the strength yes, I agreed, hundred percent.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
I think the strength is is in that I feel like,
you know, I've been able to be very apologetic and accountable,
and I feel like a lot of times, the majority
of the times my partner has not been you know,
even over something swamp right, Like I've done something small
and been like, look, I want to apologize you because
I kind of bad day, and I can do that right.
(24:02):
It's easy for me because I want you to know
that you're not the issue. I'm going through something and
I allowed that to hang on to you and I apologize.
I've been in situations where that can linger for days,
four or five days, and now I'm.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Sorry, effing feeling weird because you're having an issue, but
you don't know how to communicate that issue to me.
And so I got to swallow more pride than you.
I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 12 (24:22):
And it's because you don't want to maybe, or I
don't know. I'm speaking about a multitude of situations, but
the consensus I've gotten is I've always had to just
kind of sorry, all right, yeah, let's go because I'm
driving the shit. We gotta go where I have to
go because I'm making the money. Right, we have to
go to this thing. We have to go to this event.
I can't go to this event and you have a problem.
So I need to clear the problem and make sure
(24:42):
that we're straight before we go in here, because I
can't have any issues in.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Here, right.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
I don't think that, you know, on the other foot,
it's the same. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Do you think that women have a tough time being
accountable and apologizing period?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, I think everyone does.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
I think I'm gonna say for me, I think I'm
actually a lot better than you know, some people that
I know in terms of just apologizing and owning stuff
up and you know, just trying to get through it
because I've been through so much and I actually have
seen the.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Benefits of it. And I feel like a lot of
people who don't do it so they don't.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
See the benefits of it.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
But once you do, your like, oh, if I just
do this, we're good.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (25:21):
But if I sit up here and I can't speak
what's on my mind and I'm mad for the next week,
I'm ruining.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
My quality of life.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'm wasting my time.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Also, I'm wasting my time because I love you, you love me.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
We want the same stuff.
Speaker 12 (25:34):
Why would we spend these four days four hours being
mad And I'm not saying every.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Issue can be fixed like that. Oh, you just want
me to blah blah.
Speaker 12 (25:40):
It's like no, But if I'm here what you're saying,
I'm understanding it. I'm on your side. I'm not against you.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
I want to hear what you have to say. I
want you to say what you have to say.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Now, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Right? What are we gonna do now?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Like, let's not So that's a big thing for me
when it comes to partners.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
I can't do the child just you know, that's very
hard for me, very hard for me to like deal
because I'm like, I already got enough on my brand's
gonna explode the amount of stuff that A that's in
it all the time.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
So it's like I need you to and I've you know,
it's it's not like A.
Speaker 12 (26:11):
It's not a horrible thing they have to do with,
but it's an annoying it It can be sometimes annoying.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
But it's you know, you take the crookeds with the
straits in life. Again, that goes back to the stuff
I don't like, but I've yet to.
Speaker 12 (26:20):
Be in a situation where it doesn't exist, which I'm
fine with, but it is something that can be agitating sometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So Krine Stephan's Superhead, she went on, that's crazy to
that type of right. So she went on actually one
of my friends podcasts and she has a clip that's
going viral, and she said Mary the Hoe meaning like
men should marry horrores because they really want to be
(26:48):
with horrors, but instead they feel like they are supposed
to be with like the good girl, the virgin, the
girl who's like composed and put together, but then they
cheat on her with the So she's like, just marry
the horror.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Stop playing around horrors.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Don't get cheated on either. Come on, now, is she married?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Why she's not married in because she's just trying to
promote that. You know what I remember her from the
early two thousands, you know, writing a book.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Or something orte, like a tell all of all the
men she had sex with or whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
To get back relevant and everything. Man, nobody messing with her.
Man's come on.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And little Wayne? And you know what's so crazy that
she says this.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
She was in a relationship whether I don't know if
she was married or not, but she said that no
matter what relationship that she was in, married or not,
if Little Wayne calls, she's leaving and she's gonna go
fucking suck him.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Girl, who wants that? I'm so confused.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's why men don't want to marry a hole, because
once a whole, always a whole, baby, and you're gonna
turn around and go fucking suck the next person.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, she uh, she trying to spark some interest, but
that ain't it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You know she needed she cooked well.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
She was saying that what a hole will give you
is better than what like a house.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I will get.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I will tell you this about like women who are
considered holes and men that like them, men like that
for just so long, you know what I'm saying. But
you know, like when you look at the longevity of somebody,
(28:33):
you want somebody that it's.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
More than that.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Like, come on, now, like just because sex is cool
and you're doing all these things out a man like that,
don't mean that's gonna last forever. Like when they get
down to like sitting around and really bringing some substance
to the table and really bringing like some maturity, bringing
like some value to the table outside of sex.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
What is that, right?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
You know what I'm saying, And that's what men really
look for long term, and that's always gonna our way
long run than the sex. And tell you because the
set is gonna wear out eventually, you know, and he's
gonna be looking at other girls sexually, you know. But
then all these other things that you bring that got
like some substance to it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Play so easily.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah, it's gonna last a little, It's gonna last way longer.
It's like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Like, because sex is everywhere, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And she could get it and you can see it.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
You could you can pay for it, you can see it.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
You can get.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
The easiest thing, but like a real quality and a woman,
like great qualities in a woman, It's hard to come by,
you know, someone that you look at us and like, man,
I can just see her really teaching kids this, or
I can see her, you know, really expanding on what
I got, or me expanding on what she got. You know,
it's bigger than that. And that's why we were brainwashing
(29:59):
society Taddy to look at females sexually and be like
that's the one, and too many women are sexualized and
men go for that instead of really looking at the
substance of a woman in the long run and being
with that long term.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That makes sense, And it's funny you say that because
a part of what she was saying was like, well,
this girl can bring this and do.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
This, but is she gonna wake up and twist it
and turn it?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
And then every single day I'm horny I'm doing this
and it's like damn, Like and what if your partners
not feeling that? Are you gonna need that to where
you got to go get it from someone else? Like
if everything is driven off of sex, it's not going
to have real longevity.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
In a relationship and that's just the truth.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, it's I mean, I get what she's trying to
say to relationships. And I said this some episodes ago.
I feel like do be based on sexual and in
a lot of ways, because if I'm with you and
you find out I have sex with another person, it
could be over. It's like, damn, you didn't look at
(31:04):
everything else I brought to the table, The intangibles, the
substance like that just go out the window because.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Of a mishap, because of a mistake, well.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Because of just like sex is just like it's in
our mind. It's like how do I even explain or work.
You know, It's it's a beautiful thing when done with
the person that you really feeling, you know what I'm saying.
(31:37):
But if it's just like casually done and just because
you just a horny bastard and like she being a whole,
it's just like, damn, why did I risk all other
things for that? But we're sometimes as men and women
(31:57):
weak individuals because sex and that it's like a drug,
you know what I'm saying. It's like people just want
that quick fix ins high, real quick because it feels
good at the moment, but then something then, like a
lot of times, you see people regret it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You feel miserable after you get got. All I see
on the internet is black men downing black women. Every
day in our comments, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Way more men.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I would assume when I started this journey that it
would be women hating on women. Every bad negative comment
about me is mainly from a man.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I rarely see a woman comment negative.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And I didn't know men were so catty like that
and so quick to want to put a black woman down,
like she's trash, she's this, she's that, she's like the
most horrible things you can think of.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And I'm like, who raised y'all?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Because I come from a generation and my dad and
how I was taught, Like I never see my dad
talking down on a woman like that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Even if you can'tundstand this.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Motherfucker, he's not gonna sit in my face pillow talk
about another woman or bring her down. He probably did
it behind in his own room like this bitch, you know,
But it was never that, And I feel like black women.
All I see on the internet is how white women
are better, American non American women are better, this and
that are better better or better, and it's like, have
(33:19):
your preference, but don't bring us down while you're doing it.
If you want to be with a woman that's not
American or not white, do that, but stop referencing it
to a black woman. Because when black women get with
a white man, they're not talking about black men are trash.
They're just loving and living their life with this white man, period.
(33:40):
And it's like, you don't have to sit here and
down the other race because you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Fuck with them. You don't have to do that at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
If you want to mess with a white woman and
an Asian woman and this woman, go do that and
leave us out of the conversation, period point blank. And
I think that that's what the women are frustrated about.
And if we have an opinion on this, we're aggressive.
See she has too much of opinion.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's why they don't like you. That's because you talk
too much. You're loud, Okay.
Speaker 13 (34:09):
I remember maybe like a year ago, I was like
I said to my husband, I was like, I want
to give you head tonight, like it's the first time,
like we've never done this before, and I want you
to teach me, like you're teaching a masterclass, like step
by step. And it was so crazy because in the
end I was like, I don't do any of those
things in my routine. Oh, like how long has it
(34:30):
been that I've been doing things a little still last Yeah,
I mean it works, you get to the same end function.
But like if he re taught me and guided me
because his body's changed, you know, his sensations has changed,
his taste has changed, like what turns up on.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Has change and that could be sexy too, Like that's
a turn on, Like telling me what to do when
to do it, that's a turn on. Yeah, you're open
to it. But if you're open for whoever likes that.
But still that's good. And like you said, I I
think a lot of people the ego is involved. So
you're like, I don't want to ask those questions because
I feel like I should know what I'm doing or
(35:06):
I already know what I'm doing. But it's like no,
And I think that even works for a new partner,
like teach me what you like because everyone is different.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
And it goes again to what most people want in
a partner in the beginning, most people, which I tell
people all the time, stop wishing for genies and mind readers.
I want someone who just knows what I like. I
want somebody who just understands me. I want somebody who
just intuitively knows how I'm feeling. Sometimes you're not going
to know how you feel, so having somebody who makes
assumptions when you haven't figured things out is not necessarily
(35:36):
the best formula for growth. And maybe they can guess
it right a few of the times, but things are
going to change. So you want somebody who's humble and
ask questions and is curious, and is open and is
down to explore, down to challenge their own humanity, down
to say no, like who was clear about their boundaries
and could revisit them later. There's been many things in
my relationship that my partner has turned down or I
(35:57):
have turned down, that we have circled back on months later.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Let's say you're in a relationship and your girl gets
a lot of requests from just random man or like people,
and they're like, Hey, you're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Let me send you a cash app.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Let me pay for your noise, Let me cash app
you Instagram.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Oh, here's my cash app? Is that foul?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh run that homete.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I need percent of that, baby, how much he sent
you a hundred? I need a dub he sent you
five hundred. Okay, that's gonna cost you a hundred. Could
run that to me. So if you feel comfortable a
set the money from guys, give me some and then
we good with it.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
So I can feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
So I'm gonna say this, I was in a real
life I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Good with that. We making move with that. Don't go
past that. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
So this is that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So I was in a relationship one time and I
remember I was at South Beverly Grill, sitting at the bar,
and there was like a guy sitting next to me,
right and I'm on the phone my dude, Da da
da da, and he's like, hey, telling the bartender because
I'm at the bar. He's like, hey, I want to
pay for her meal. So he overheard that. He's like what,
like he wants to pay for your meal?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And I was like yeah, I guess, and I'm like no, no, no,
you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
And the dude was pissed because he was like I
would never I didn't accept it.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I was on the phone with him but I was like,
I would.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Never He's like, if you accepted that, that would be
so disretractful to our relationship because a man doesn't just
stop at buying you a meal. Then he's gonna ask
your number, this and that, And now it looks like
I'm not taking care of you as a man and
I'm not doing my job, like I'll pay.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
For this whole meal right now, I'll send you the money.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
You know, you don't have to like work for nothing
or need nothing, So why would you accept that?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
So, like, what is your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like if your girl was at a bar and a
random man was like, oh, let me pay for her
mail right there?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
That's cool with you two? Or you're good with that, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Look like this is my thing, like let a trick trick.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Hello, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
But if you're.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Gonna go past that, the line crossed where you now
it's like, listen, you offer to pay for my meal.
I accepted it. That don't give you the open door
to have a conversation. I appreciate you, bro, but I
have a man, so I thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Now I gotta go now.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Is it the same for if you're at a bar
and man sends you a drink. Can she drink that drink?
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Hey, he sent you a drink from across the bar.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Here you go. I'm not really into that because I
don't know what's in that drink. I need to see
the port. You know what I'm saying. I don't know
if he you know, put the You know what I'm saying.
I'm not a fan of drinks being sent to me,
like if I didn't see him port. You know what
I'm saying, unless I know the person, Like and somebody
I don't know they sending you a drink. Come on, bro,
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that's like you're not even you're playing like, come on,
you're playing around with me. No, no, you might do
some foul shit. No, I'm not doing that. That's not
that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta like be aware of
your surroundings.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
You gotta be smart out here, Like, dude, want to
buy you a drink? Okay, good look, all right, I
gotta dude, I gotta I gotta girl a girl like
I got girls offer me drinks like all right, cool,
good look, hey toast, Hey, yeah, what's your name. All right, Yeah,
that's cool. I got a girl. But you know I
appreciate it. I know, you know whatever. All right, I'm
over here now I'm gonna move though, I'm gonna move around.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I'm not gonna sit in the same spot either, right
if they're doing that, nah, but like like it's hard
for something, like somebody do that for me. That's gotta
be in a restaurant, like like we in another spot,
like you know, it's hard, like you ain't just buying
me like most of people buy me drinks?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Is fan?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
So right now, Paul is going viral because he's said,
and I quote that men need to cheat on their
women to find out if they really love them.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
They need to cheat, like as in because she means deceit.
Speaker 14 (40:14):
Right, so you need to go outside, like there's open
relationship where your girl is very much aware you're gonna
have other women? Right, But why cheat? Why not just
say right now we're still dating, but I'm gonna explore
other women.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
That to me sounds like manipulation.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
It is sound like yees to be honest.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
But like how like say a man in my posician say,
like I meet a girl. I know her, she know
who I am, she understands my background and all of this.
How do I find out if she truly loves me
for me?
Speaker 11 (40:47):
Well, how do you find out if you truly love
her by cheating on her?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
That was the only thing I could come up with,
And I know there's more things, but cheating people.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
It's such a.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Broad line into cheating because people automatically think sex nor
they don't have to be a sexual encounter like just
I don't know if it'll be intentional, but it unintentional,
like damn, But.
Speaker 14 (41:10):
Let me give you some real talk. Only people that
love you for you is God, dogs and your mama.
Like that's just real talk. You became who you are
everyone that's attached to you, like that's your essence, you know,
you know, so you have to you almost just have
to accept that to a certain degree, you're not really
gonna know who's there for you unless you got into
a position where you're really down and out. Let's say
(41:32):
you lose it all and then you have no money,
no fame. That's the only way you're gonna know if
a person's really about you. But at the same time,
I mean you are who you are, Like everybody's working
to attract, Like girls go to the gym to look
cute because they want the best of the best. So
it's almost like you would have You're never gonna know that.
(41:52):
Just god dogs stand your mama. Yeah, you have to
go through something, I.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Think to tell a woman the truth and let her
truly see who you are. That's how you know if
anyone loves you, when you can see me for the
person that I am.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Maybe if I lose my legs.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Maybe if you lose your money and you broke.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Maybe if you ask her, Maybe if you call her
and say, Babe, I don't got it this month?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Can you help me pay my bills?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
How about that? Like you know, not everything has to
be attached to me.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I mean, if she.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Can't afford it.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
So you know what's interesting that I hear that often
from men who are extremely successful.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Is that a concern of yours?
Speaker 14 (42:28):
Like do you feel like everyone around you just wants
to be around you because of who you are, because
you have money, because you have status?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's the that's the feeling.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Does that bout you?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I think you just grow in it and you just
like Damn you always keep.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
A you know, you just always feel like you're looking
over your shoulder. You always. It messes with your trust,
you know, and it's like, damn. You might be sitting
there one day and just be like, man, you know,
I'm ready to be off.
Speaker 14 (42:56):
But you know what, though I like what you said.
You gave a great example. Be honest and see what
she does with your honesty, right, because you gotta for
real love last in love. If you want to go
to the end of time, if that's the position that
you're at, you want her to know who you are.
You can't act every single day. You can act and
to beget it. Everybody shows up as an actor for
like the first thirty sixty days, but eventually you gotta
(43:17):
take the wig off, you gotta take the makeup off.
It gets real. Is that persons still gonna love you.
So what I would say a person in your position,
be vulnerable and see what happens with it. I mean,
it's gonna be a risk, but I think anyone that
you could be completely honest with and if they accept
you for who you are, okay, that's that number one.
Or if they say, you know what, I respect that
you need other women. But I'm not about that life.
(43:39):
So I'm gonna go and if I'm available when you
come back, so be it.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
But I'm not tripping.
Speaker 14 (43:44):
I'm not gonna be on your list because you Paul Pierce,
like you know what I'm saying. If you like me,
that means other men like me. So you just better
hope while you're playing. I'm available when you've done.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
You know, like you said, you said, you said, be honest.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
What about tell a lie and react?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Why would she not?
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Okay, all right, listen, she said be honest, be vulnerable, right,
but what if you tell a lie?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
So I don't go out and cheat.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
But then I just go and tell her I cheated
on her, well a lie about it, just to see
boom how she reacts.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
I think.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I think No, okay, that could be a test. And
that is the stupidest thing.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You're creating distress in your relationship for no reason. You
are creating tests that don't need to be created. Like
I said, God will create tests for you in a relationship.
Your representative can only stay within the relationship for the
first three months. After that, you're representative and who you're
pretending to be, and try to show up as the
perfect woman or man is gonna go away and people
are gonna have to start seeing you for who you
(44:43):
are and understand you might be Paul Pierce. But sometimes
for women, being with a celebrity is very difficult. It
takes away a lot from them, you know, and who
they are as a person, and you're at the forefront
of the life and as a woman.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
That can be difficult.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
So there is a lot of tests, especially being with
the man of your stature, that a woman probably has
to face. Why are you trying to create this trust
in a relationship that you.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Don't need to do.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
No, I'm trying to create trust?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
No, bye line. So you're being selfish.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
You're creating something for you, but you're causing chaos for
the other person. Right, So you're being selfish and you're
not reciprocating what you want. How does she trust you?
You're a celebrity with money. Women are throwing themselves at
you all day. So you're so worried about creating trust
for you that you're taking it away from your relationship
and it's just silly.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Well, let me jump in, let me jump in.
Speaker 14 (45:29):
I can see you're very passionate and I see both perspectives,
not to defend him, but to explain him.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, he's he's.
Speaker 14 (45:36):
You know, when you are first of all, you're part
of the one percent. So his life is the one percent.
You know, when you're a basketball player, women are constantly
coming up.
Speaker 11 (45:45):
To you all his life like you probably was. That's
a player in high school.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Right.
Speaker 14 (45:48):
So before I go any further, let me ask you
this question. How do you do you respect a woman
that will be okay with you?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Cheated?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
No, I don't respect the woman that would be okay
with me.
Speaker 11 (46:00):
Okay, So okay. So that's so that's the point.
Speaker 14 (46:02):
And that's why I understand why he wants to do
the test because in his mindset, which I appreciate, he
wants to see, Okay, if I tell her I'm sleeping
with other women and she does nothing, I know clearly
she wants to be with me because what I can provide.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
But if I tell her is she's.
Speaker 11 (46:20):
Out, Like nah, I mean, I know who you are.
Speaker 14 (46:22):
I respect who you are, but I respect myself more
than I respect who you are. I gotta keep it moving.
So you're right, it's not a good lie. But he's
just trying to weed out all the women because there's
so many women who will not give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well, you're wrong at what you're saying, because he's actually
trying to say that if you cheat and stay, you
love me.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
No, no, no, he'll.
Speaker 11 (46:43):
Say, Okay, then he's stepping up right now.
Speaker 14 (46:48):
He just said he just Okay, that's to different answers,
because you told me if she cheats and she accepts it,
you will in respect him.
Speaker 11 (46:56):
Okay, So which one is?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
So?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Which one is the truth? It's true that the dark.
Speaker 14 (47:02):
Because you just I gotta go back and defend her,
because that's student for answer.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
So what is the honest truth?
Speaker 14 (47:09):
Would you respect a woman if you cheated and she
stayed with you, or would you respect her more if
she left you?
Speaker 5 (47:17):
No, no, that's a good question. No, I don't what
I respect her?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Okay.
Speaker 14 (47:24):
So you cheat on her, tell her and she's like,
you know what, don't let it happen again and forgives
you easily, or you cheat on her. You tell her
and she's like, I'm out, Like that was not our agreement.
I already told you what I was on and she leaves?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Which one be out?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You rather be out?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Yeah? Because now let me let me. Uh, it's how
she go out.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
If she go out the door, it's a certain way
you got to go out the door. Got to be
mad and sad, she has to cry.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So, so what happened to your clip that's going viral
today on Hollywood on Lock all the Box where he said,
in order to see if a woman loves you, you have
to cheat on her and if she stays, she loves you.
So where is that coming in with this whole scenario
because it doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
Now, well, well they gonna it's gonna be a it's
gonna be a breakup and a get back.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Okay, so you want to put you want to make
a woman struggle for love basically.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
I mean, how else the woman gonna go through it?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
But you know, Cam Newton, let me make sure I
do not misquote him. He said that he needs the
list of his girls.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Partners that she's slept with, period, the names.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
And he said he needs the names because he wants
to know who got one up on him and he
doesn't want to walk into the place with his girl
and he's like, yeah, she bad. She did want some juice, baby,
He said, that is the juice, babe, lying and everything,
and he was like, I don't want to be in
front of a man who I know, like you had
(49:02):
that and now I'm key king with a man and
you was with my girl. And he was like, it's
just about me having that transparency and knowing so I
could move accordingly. And then his girl came out and
was just like, I'm so glad I gave him my
whole list. I feel relieved. You know, she's she's tweeted
(49:22):
at or put it somewhere. So yeah, that was his thing.
And he was like, and there's a lot of people
that are like, all right, cool, I could work with that,
and he said, and then if it's someone like that
was my teammates, you know, like that was someone I
see every day, Like I'm not, I'm not, I might
not be able to.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Deal with that, he said. But if it's someone cool cool,
you know. But yeah, he said, I need that list.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Yeah, I mean I get it, you know, And that's
it's for me.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
It's a double less sword because it's like, damn, do
I really want to know or do I like I
get it? I get it, Like I completely get it,
you know what I'm saying. I was in a situation
to where I was talking to this girl, I was
dating this girl right and you know, we went out
a couple of times and then it was like I
remember we had dinner if we sat down and she
(50:15):
was like, yeah, my ex is woof the woot And
I was just like what, like I currently kick it
with him, like from time to time his number, Like
we just kicked it, Like like why wouldn't you say
nothing at the beginning, Like you know that I kick
it with dude, Like, so I get it, you know
(50:37):
what I'm saying. So like for me, I was like,
I'm not talking to you no more. You know, I'm
good on that because I don't move like that. If
it's a dude, I'm kicking it with it, and I
know you hear his ex I'm not moving like that.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah facts, you know.
Speaker 5 (50:51):
So like I get where Cam is coming from with that,
because those type of situations can come about and I'm
not mad at that, you know, because like I've been
in situations or with girls that I was committed to
to where I asked, like who else you know?
Speaker 3 (51:06):
And you could tell me the truth or you could
lie whatever. I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
You know what I'm saying, but it's gonna show any
way eventually, but like, nah my, somebody I kick it with,
Like you should have the type of like you know,
like you should be with somebody, be like like you
shouldn't even want to talk to me if.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
You exactly, that's weird, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
That's on you. You're talking to me like I'm not
to get back dude.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, you're trying to get back on some.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Sad but if we're trying to get serious, like.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
That's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
That's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
And that's true.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
I feel like the whole list or whatever the names are,
to me, I'm like not against it, but I also
feel like it's for me more of a thing of
like respect, Like, look, I'm not gonna have my man
in front of someone shaking hand bow up with someone
that I know I used to mess with. I'm gonna
tell him like, yo, we had a situation going on.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Like that's more of the thing, like I'll give a
list if it's needed, but I think that the bigger
thing is like I'm not gonna let my man feel
like he's out of control and like not respected or
like someone feels like they got a one up. I
never want anyone to feel like they got a one
up on my man because that's a reflection of me.
I'm a reflection of him, Like I don't want that feeling,
(52:24):
and I don't want that for me, Like I don't
want to be out with my man and this girl
like yeah, girl, that's like I'm gonna feel crazy. And
if I'm key keying with you and I'm cool, like
that makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
And I would never want my man to feel that
same way.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
So he's the gate like I would like, it's probably crazy,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
I'm gonna send you. I'm gonna fact you these because
I don't want you.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
To say no, Actually, my list is not crazy, No,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
And I honestly haven't. No.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
My list is small, like I can count my lit
on my hands, like I don't have a big list,
and I know who I've slept with and for me,
like I said, it's more of a respecting to where
if I'm like, yeah, if my man is keycking with someone,
like first of all, if I have a man and
I know I mess with his friend or someone he
kicks it with, that's not my man, I'm not We're
(53:19):
not fucking around like to begin with, unless I just
did not know, and once I find out, I'm telling
you like, oh, look, this is the situation because I
don't want someone else to say it like that's weird.
Speaker 5 (53:31):
This is the one thing I would love to ask Cam.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Like.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
I would love to ask Kim if he gave her
his list? Was that required?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
I don't think that was required.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Would that be a thing?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I don't think that's a thing.
Speaker 5 (53:49):
Like, you know, he's a pretty famous dude. Yeah, you know,
it's a possibility he been with some famous women, or
it's a possible ability he could have been with like
some of the girls he's dated or been like in
a situation.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
His girls friends.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Yeah, one of her friends. I wonder if he gave
the list too. So I don't know, Cam, it go
both ways too. Did you give your list up or
it's just required from her? I'm just saying, like, damn,
I ain't ever, I'm sure I wondered.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Like damn, I mean, I don't think that it was
Like me personally, I'll be honest. If I'm with a man,
I don't want to know his list but what I
want to know is like, don't have me looking stupid, but.
Speaker 5 (54:35):
I will tell you this about a man don't even
know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
His name.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Yeah, hold on, let me go through the phone.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Like what like I used to like a man don't
know his list?
Speaker 3 (55:12):
This is the taking over the.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Game, all right, everybody, welcome to Truth after Dark.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Do you think that men or women are more toxic
People going to Dubai to get shiitted on for fifty
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hummus BUKACKI that's what they call it. Look it up.
They're getting fucked by German shepherds.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
And how much how much would you take to get to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Get shitted on? I probably would have million dollar?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I don't know, twenty five thousand. Fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
No, I don't think I can get no, because I
think that I will be traumatized my piece of thousand.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, I'm not getting shitted on for a hundred million.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
No, I don't think a million dollars here, let me go.
I can't million. No, it's only gonna take five minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And what do I do? I have to do this?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Just sit right later.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And you're throwing you put on your mouth and everything.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
No, it's wet. It's wet though.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
A million.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Even watch that. I'll go to shower a million. I
don't know one million dollar mint?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Is it in the mouth? Is it in the mouth.
It's not in the mouth. It's not in the mountains.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
If it's not in the mouth, is it in the
and everything? Is it in the nose?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Listen, man, listen? A million dollars.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Stop making spect stop stop putting stipulations on this. You're
getting a million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Shut up five minutes.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
It's only gonna take less than that probably, and that's it.
It's diarrhea though.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh a million.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't know tax free alright, going about watch this
all because that's what I heard they doing to the bay.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
They are doing that, but they're not getting a million.
You got theer, they're getting fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
What if you got you got the offer? Did you
get an offer from Dubai.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I've always got an offer.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Let's keep it wide.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
She got off.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Side of the contract. She just signed the contract. I
haven't able to have and baby, I haven't took anything.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Now when I meet girls, this is what I'm gonna
be like, Hey, have you been to Dubai?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
If they say yes, I've never been. No, no, no,
this is my thing.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
If I like, hey, you know, have you been to
dubais You're like, yeah, I've been to Dubai.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm gonna know they got they had to what's the
age limit? Age limit as far as.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Youth to what's the youngest to the oldest, Like, what's
their range?
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Tell myself right now, I would say right like right now,
at my age, right now, Yeah, I would not date
younger than twenty five, twenty six?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Why I thought she was going would say, I thought she.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Was going to like thirty.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Oh no, I mean I don't. I don't think I could.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I don't know. I'm not gonna get up here and lie.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Young young men are very aggressive and they do not
care how old I am.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
What joy I have to ask you, because this is
a whole thing with women twenty this young.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Man they're saying, no, you ain't about to have me
out here.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
On the bullshit?
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Is they grown?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Say?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
The twenty five year old men are where it's at.
All the older That's what I'm trying to say. The
women that I've been talking to, like in their thirties,
late thirties, they're like yo's are like these younger men.
They come, they're intentional, they come with it. They're like
not playing around. They want to date you. They like
treat you like you're a goddess. They appreciate you, they
(03:32):
talk life into you. Like I am hearing that these
younger men, from all these women, they are where it's at.
I've never dated a younger man before. No, I've never
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
At this point, they're talking about this is the truth.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
After dark, they're telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is what I'm hearing. And even though I don't.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Like it's twenty, I don't want to be clear here
because I'm not. I don't like twenty five is a
grown man.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a grown man. Okay, you're not on Bush twenty five.
The internet being no. Twenty five is wrong. And the
ones that have approached me, they are, They're like, well.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
I would say twenty five to I would say twenty five,
I'd say twenty five, toy like probably probably like seventy seventy.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Jesus, the spur range. Twenty five to seventy is a
crazy range. Okay.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
But here's the thing about older men, though, Okay, tell
me to be clear, like I ate I date within
five years of my age range, Like I don't know.
I'm just answering the question. If you see me pull
up with a seventy year old, don't ask any fucking questions. Okay,
he's got a plane. I'm doing this for all of us.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Your hurt me answer questions better? You better dapping up?
Pull what's up?
Speaker 8 (04:43):
Wrong?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Da?
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Da da get yeah, very real nice.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We're gonna treat him real good. Like everything is normal.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Everything is normal, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But you know, like my dad is seventy seven, was
so good, I mean amazing. My dad is like tall,
dark cancer, he looks all like even the housekeepers.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
You know what I like with older men.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Older men are have great stories.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I like to talk.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
They got all the stories.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
They're very confident, they appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
They they're very sweet.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I can't have sex with an old wrinkley penis. I'm
so scared. That's my only thing. I'm like, why do
you think they're wrinklely?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Are they aren't all penises wrinkley?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
M I don't know.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Maybe I mean at one point throughout the day all
penises are wrinkling.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You're right, when they're soft at the beginning.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
At the beginning, you're right, and today in rast stay
but they say they're like kind of like one big wrinkle.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You're right, And they say older men don't even want to.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Have sex like that, so hey, that might.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Be a good look, but I don't even I don't
really be having these kind of conversations with people because
it's like I'm talking to you know most of the
time when I used to you not doing it to
me right now, butter, And there's no disrespect to you.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But I just been through the ringer with it.
Speaker 10 (06:08):
Because they would take it and use it for clickbait,
and I'm like, I'm actually just But have you ever
masturbated and felt guilty and shameful afterwards?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Man?
Speaker 9 (06:22):
Have you ever watched porn and masturbated and celebrated another
man's success, Because like, I don't watch porn because I
noticed my neal my neural paths start changed.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I used to though I don't think I've ever been
into porn.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Yeah, that's beautiful. I was at one time. I used
to be watching porn.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Talk my man, that nigga killing that whole son.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
You know, and I used to get I used to
sit down and masturbate and watch porn. I used to
sneak and do it till one time his brother had
told me, he say, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That self mutilation.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Muh huh, He said, you celebrating to an you dragging
off to another man's success. It's other ways to stimulate
yourself mentally. And then he started telling me about sex transmutation,
where you could take that sexual energy and channel it
into your workouts, into your craft, into your music you
were traveling in, channel it into whatever it is that
(07:17):
you focused on at the time. And that's when I
was like, that's crazy. Like, if you pleasure driven, you
develop addictions, if you purpose driven, you develop riches.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And not just with wealth of a pocket, but of
the heart and of the man.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
Yeah, because like I'm a freak for like new information,
Like I love to be stimulated mentally, right, Like I
love conversations that leave me feeling refreshed. You ever had
a conversation with somebody and I was like, it's draining
talking to you, it's draining around you.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I said, you didn't have conversations with stimulate you. It's like, yes,
it's like pouring hold on, this is going crazy. I'm
talking meant the Safari man.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I've had that. I've had that with her.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
It's intellectual intercourse like conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So it's like, damn, that's beautiful. It is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So when you like, when you have that with uh female,
that's like a turn on, right or how does it?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It depends on her spirit? H Like for me, it
depends because that don't come around. That don't happen a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's gonna happen like once every blue blue move to
where it's gonna be a because most of the time
I have a conversation with somebody and I'm just sitting
there just like it's sounding like YadA YadA YadA.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
You know. Sometimes, you know, sometimes we're not protective of
our energy in the way that we should be. Because
sometimes I say, excuse me, sometime I say, I'm here
responsible for the places that I place myself.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But that's physically right.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
But I've been working with this other guy, you know
what the fascion is. So we've been working on like
releasing like shortain traumas in your fashion, and we've been
working on that, and he's told me something that was
so beautiful. He said, the physical, the mental, the spiritualist
all one system. If one thing's off, everything's off. And
(09:31):
I said, wow, and it it intrigued me to the
point I was like, I'm not overprotective of myself where
I place myself energetically and spiritually and psychologically. I need
to start being more cognitive in these areas. Physically, I
know certain areas and certain places I'm not gonna place myself,
but it's certain places I shouldn't even place myself energetically,
(09:55):
all spiritually, all psychologically. And I was like, you know what,
it's not because I feel like i'm building. It's because
I know I am.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
I know you did hold on while you hang up? Okay, okay,
they said, what's up?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He trying to tell you, Hey, what up? Son? That's
Paul Pierce the Legend.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm right here doing a podcast right now working.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I was about to text you, but you just called
five more times like you assisted on talking? What's up?
What's the question? You are on camera? Don't say nothing? Crazy, bro?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I told you I'm gonna bring you out for sure.
I got you. We can't say the date because I'm
being recorded right now. It's a surprise. Yeah, I got you.
He wanted to be a rapper. So what what do
you saying. I'm gonna give you some of my back end.
I give you a list something, man.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got a list up, some funny.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
I gotta list up some fake So I'm gonna call
you when I'm doing Man, I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Get some money.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The size matter to women? You answer that now I
can answer. I would say it does to a certain degree,
like if you just have a little little thing, like
they're not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Able to feel it at Papa Georgio nine, they're not.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Gonna feel it. You went to the next question.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
What do you want to say if it's this like.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Very aquaintable, like what's what's is that a word equitable?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
What equates? So like quitable.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Nine?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Ten?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Like what what's what? What?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I don't know about inches and things with these penis things.
I can only say this, like I have had sex
with a man and I'm like, oh, yes, this fits
for me. This is me and I've had sex with
the man who I was dating, and I'm like, this
penis is not for me.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I could just tell, like.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's not mine, Like I could tell if it's mine
or not.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
How long is you dam we were there for a year?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
How did last alone?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Like he did other things that you know, pleased me,
what like gave me head and stuff and I would come,
you know, like from that and so that was great.
So I enjoyed that, but it just wasn't feeling like anything,
like I just wanted to move on. I wasn't feeling
(12:35):
the connection. I didn't feel like it was it was
a deep connection or whatever. Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So at Papa Georgio.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Nine, men have simple needs. Why do men struggle? Why
do women struggle to meet them?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
That's a great question, I will I don't know. I
don't know why women struggle to me a man's needs
because a man's needs are free. A woman's needs cost money.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, that's true most of them.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I mean, you can talk about id love and a
faction out or no, nah, we know what you need.
It costs money all that. That's what the world we
live in. If he came in my lifestyle, a man
ain't never shooting nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Maybe rub my neck, rub my back. That don't cost nothing.
You make me some food.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I'm at fact, I'll pay for the food for you
to make it. It don't cost nothing for a woman
to please a man. It costs money for a warm
man to please a woman.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You want to know what else I'll say, and I'll
make it quick. I feel like men were raised on
how to treat a woman well, and women were raised
how to treat a woman well by their mothers, you know,
or whoever was around. Like it's all about like you
need to do this for you open the door, do this.
And women were treated on how to get what they
need from a man. They were never, they were never,
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they were never taught. Women are not taught to do
these things for men. Now, other cultures, which is what
you would say an American woman, or even other cultures
like my mom's Persian, I've seen that they're very submissive,
you have to do all this. But most American culture,
people they are not taught to, especially black women.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Don't kill me.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But I feel like a lot of women were raised
by independent mothers. So for them, they wanted to protect
their child and they wanted their child not to be
in their position.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So in order to protect.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Their child, it was like, look, this is what you
need from a man, and if he's not doing this,
this and this and this, you're not supposed to mess
with up. And a man was taught how to give
the needs to a woman. You're supposed to open a door,
you're supposed to make sure you have this, have enough
money to take care of her, take her on a date,
do this. So women were not taught that. A lot
of women period, And that's just what I think. Don't
shoot me and don't kill me.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Off of that one at seat one B.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Should a man with no kids at age thirty eight
date a woman with kids or solely date women with
no kids?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
If you're thirty eight, I have to just kind of
look at your financial situation because most men at thirty
eight with no kids and uncomfortable financial situation, it's going
to take a younger woman around the age of twenty
six that got no kids that like he can probably
(15:34):
like have some kids with and grow some with.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think, what if she's twenty six and has kids though.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Well, if he thirty and got no kids, he could
just find somebody that's twenty six with my kids.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, what if he doesn't want to date someone that's
twelve years younger than him because it's not relatable and
he actually wants a woman of his age or close
to his age.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Have you ever thought of that?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Why would he do that?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Why wouldn't he do that? Why wouldn't some want to
relate to someone in twenty six? They don't even know
how to put on motion on their women clean their assholes?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What do you mean? What if someone doesn't want to
be dating someone.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So twenty should have thirty eight or with no kids? Day?
What's the age should he day.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He didn't ask, he's gonna be if he's.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Talking to somebody thirty three enough, they gonna have kids
and he ain't got no kids. So now I'm gonna
just put myself in a situation where dating you and
I'm with you, and I just myself into a fairly situation.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I don't have kids, and I'm in my thirties, my
early early thirties, so not every Yeah, so there's women
that are in their thirties that don't have children a
lot because women are now statistically having more children in
their forties.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's a statistic.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
So most women who went on got no kids, and
they men thirties are cut.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I'm not saying that's you.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well, I'm almost like no, Like, clearly there's men out
there that I see on the messages that want to
have kids with you and do all that with you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I get it, But like most.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Women in that situation, that's so great bad.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And you know what, I'm gonna say this and I'm
done and I'm done with the podcast. I'm gonna say
that I'm thirty four, I'm not in my mid thirties.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But next year I will be mid thirties, I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And you know, I've had plenty of opportunities to have
children with men who wanted me to have their children.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Am I cooked? Or am I smart?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Because I would have been somebody's baby mama? Because that
wasn't a connection. A lot of these women with children
are baby mothers and they're not wives. Okay, so I
can have a baby. Having a baby is easy. I'm
very fertile, like a Latina. I'm fertile as hell, and
I can have a baby any moment right now. And
I've been in a situation where I could have had that.
So am I cooked? Or am I smart? Because right
(17:53):
now I could have been here with two children with
a man that I don't even want to be with.
I could be married. I know plenty of people who
are married people they don't even fuck with, just to
say that they have a child and they have a husband.
I'm so sorry that I didn't want to be another
fucking statistic, but I'm cooked. I think I'm very fucking smart. Actually,
I think that I'm very smart that I'm not spending
(18:14):
my time mothering a child by a man that I
don't even want to be with, not being in the
same household as that man, because every man I've ever
been with I did not want to be with him
because I was not at the level of maturity.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That I am now. I'm not at the mental maturity
that I.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Am now, and I have not evolved to attract that
certain type of partner. I've done the work, and unfortunately,
I've been through a lot of shit in my life
that made my journey a little slower than most.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
But I'm the one, never the two. Are you falling
asleep off my conversation? Fuck you? You are away?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You're telling me I'm taking log You know how long
you take to say so?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
This is fucked up. I'm getting off of this.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Can you started the movement in the hashtag of black men,
don't you?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And so that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So let's get into this. And then and then you
said something that like that, I love. You said, but
if your woman is white, you could cheat? Yeah, So
what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Let's get into why is if they're white you could cheat.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Because there's a white woman. You shouldn't be in a
black man business like that?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh come on now, but what are you all together?
They came in.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
You just you just together like like that's that's the relationship.
Like hold on this my girl and she a white lady.
She can't go through your phone.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
She can't. Why why are you doing that? You trying?
She really saying you don't trust me? And I'm a
black man.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
What other reason do you have not to trust me
other than I'm black?
Speaker 11 (19:55):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:59):
Ship?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Okay, So would that be the reason why black men
they white women?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I saw that because I wanted to ask what was
your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
What do you think? Why do you like?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Now?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Why? Question? The question was more like athletes and.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Asked about the athletes, but in general general, why do
black men date white women?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
In your opinion? Just be honest. Is it because they're
more easy?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
And I say, how you gonna say they more easy?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm asking, I say, quote onqut it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Of different reasons.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I think it's just my opinion, no doubt. Like my
observations and the things that I've seen, white women make
themselves more available in what ways they be around, They
show up, they know where the athlete is gonna be
at I have heard, and then with the athletes and
all that ship like you got to keep in mind
(20:55):
it's like tears to the like college and then like
the profession. Knowing shit like that, they hang around around,
they linger. They'll watch you strike out all night and
it don't affect your chances with them another. They want
to be down, so they make themselves more available to
the ship as opposed to playing hard to get. Act
(21:16):
like you don't know this motherfucker. They's knowing, they knowice that.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
But I'm gonna say this, and I really want everyone
to hear me when I say this.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Right now though, listen to this, though.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I want black men to learn and really do better,
because one thing about these white women is as soon
as they don't get their way or something rubs them
the wrong way, you are at n word hard we
are and that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You'll be that anyway, but you're.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Really gonna be that, and they gonna take you to
court and take everything you han because unfortunately, although black
women are powerful in our feminine and are divine just
how we are as women were so powerful, but white
women are powerful in America and when they say something,
it's going to make a difference in the community, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And y'all all keep messing with these white women.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Woman.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But I haven't even seen problem with white women.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm just saying black men do this, and then when
they're coming down and have their downfall with these women,
they want to run to the black women for support.
And it's like no, at the end of the day,
black women are the most loyal.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Statistically to their own men.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And people can say I'm not black or whatever it is,
but I date black men at it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And also, to your point, black men don't cheat. Every
black man I've been with half cheated.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
That sounds like a personal problem.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
How is that my problem?
Speaker 6 (22:29):
What are you doing is making these man cheat on you?
So this is where I probably don't let him.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Talk and get all and be accusing them of being
with white women. Yeah, you projected on me and I
just got here. I'm gonna get I could definitely see
cheating on you your imagination.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
No, no, no, because I saw you say that when
people cheat, they just cheat and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
It doesn't make you less as a woman or a
man because.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
People, Yeah, what have you giving up in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do you feel the difference between compromise. Do you feel
like there's a difference between compromise and sacrifice.
Speaker 12 (23:09):
I think men always have to do a little bit more, honestly,
that's my honest opinion.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Men always have to do a little bit more compromising,
a little bit more.
Speaker 12 (23:17):
And it's not by a lot, it's not like, but
it's a little bit more. We got to swallow the
pill a little bit more than you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Want to explain.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean, he's.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
More. I want to hear why.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Okay, because we got more ego to yes that.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
I think the strength yes, I agreed, hundred percent.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
I think the strength is is in that I feel like,
you know, I've been able to be very apologetic and accountable,
and I feel like a lot of times, the majority
of the times my partner has not been you know,
even over something swamp right, Like I've done something small
and been like, look, I want to apologize you because
I kind of bad day, and I can do that right.
(24:02):
It's easy for me because I want you to know
that you're not the issue. I'm going through something and
I allowed that to hang on to you and I apologize.
I've been in situations where that can linger for days,
four or five days, and now I'm.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Sorry, effing feeling weird because you're having an issue, but
you don't know how to communicate that issue to me.
And so I got to swallow more pride than you.
I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 12 (24:22):
And it's because you don't want to maybe, or I
don't know. I'm speaking about a multitude of situations, but
the consensus I've gotten is I've always had to just
kind of sorry, all right, yeah, let's go because I'm
driving the shit. We gotta go where I have to
go because I'm making the money. Right, we have to
go to this thing. We have to go to this event.
I can't go to this event and you have a problem.
So I need to clear the problem and make sure
(24:42):
that we're straight before we go in here, because I
can't have any issues in.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Here, right.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
I don't think that, you know, on the other foot,
it's the same. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Do you think that women have a tough time being
accountable and apologizing period?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, I think everyone does.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
I think I'm gonna say for me, I think I'm
actually a lot better than you know, some people that
I know in terms of just apologizing and owning stuff
up and you know, just trying to get through it
because I've been through so much and I actually have
seen the.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Benefits of it. And I feel like a lot of
people who don't do it so they don't.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
See the benefits of it.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
But once you do, your like, oh, if I just
do this, we're good.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (25:21):
But if I sit up here and I can't speak
what's on my mind and I'm mad for the next week,
I'm ruining.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
My quality of life.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'm wasting my time.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Also, I'm wasting my time because I love you, you love me.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
We want the same stuff.
Speaker 12 (25:34):
Why would we spend these four days four hours being
mad And I'm not saying every.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Issue can be fixed like that. Oh, you just want
me to blah blah.
Speaker 12 (25:40):
It's like no, But if I'm here what you're saying,
I'm understanding it. I'm on your side. I'm not against you.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
I want to hear what you have to say. I
want you to say what you have to say.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Now, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Right? What are we gonna do now?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Like, let's not So that's a big thing for me
when it comes to partners.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
I can't do the child just you know, that's very
hard for me, very hard for me to like deal
because I'm like, I already got enough on my brand's
gonna explode the amount of stuff that A that's in
it all the time.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
So it's like I need you to and I've you know,
it's it's not like A.
Speaker 12 (26:11):
It's not a horrible thing they have to do with,
but it's an annoying it It can be sometimes annoying.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
But it's you know, you take the crookeds with the
straits in life. Again, that goes back to the stuff
I don't like, but I've yet to.
Speaker 12 (26:20):
Be in a situation where it doesn't exist, which I'm
fine with, but it is something that can be agitating sometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So Krine Stephan's Superhead, she went on, that's crazy to
that type of right. So she went on actually one
of my friends podcasts and she has a clip that's
going viral, and she said Mary the Hoe meaning like
men should marry horrores because they really want to be
(26:48):
with horrors, but instead they feel like they are supposed
to be with like the good girl, the virgin, the
girl who's like composed and put together, but then they
cheat on her with the So she's like, just marry
the horror.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Stop playing around horrors.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Don't get cheated on either. Come on, now, is she married?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Why she's not married in because she's just trying to
promote that. You know what I remember her from the
early two thousands, you know, writing a book.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Or something orte, like a tell all of all the
men she had sex with or whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
To get back relevant and everything. Man, nobody messing with her.
Man's come on.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And little Wayne? And you know what's so crazy that
she says this.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
She was in a relationship whether I don't know if
she was married or not, but she said that no
matter what relationship that she was in, married or not,
if Little Wayne calls, she's leaving and she's gonna go
fucking suck him.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Girl, who wants that? I'm so confused.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's why men don't want to marry a hole, because
once a whole, always a whole, baby, and you're gonna
turn around and go fucking suck the next person.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, she uh, she trying to spark some interest, but
that ain't it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You know she needed she cooked well.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
She was saying that what a hole will give you
is better than what like a house.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I will get.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I will tell you this about like women who are
considered holes and men that like them, men like that
for just so long, you know what I'm saying. But
you know, like when you look at the longevity of somebody,
(28:33):
you want somebody that it's.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
More than that.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Like, come on, now, like just because sex is cool
and you're doing all these things out a man like that,
don't mean that's gonna last forever. Like when they get
down to like sitting around and really bringing some substance
to the table and really bringing like some maturity, bringing
like some value to the table outside of sex.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
What is that, right?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
You know what I'm saying, And that's what men really
look for long term, and that's always gonna our way
long run than the sex. And tell you because the
set is gonna wear out eventually, you know, and he's
gonna be looking at other girls sexually, you know. But
then all these other things that you bring that got
like some substance to it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Play so easily.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah, it's gonna last a little, It's gonna last way longer.
It's like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Like, because sex is everywhere, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And she could get it and you can see it.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
You could you can pay for it, you can see it.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
You can get.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
The easiest thing, but like a real quality and a woman,
like great qualities in a woman, It's hard to come by,
you know, someone that you look at us and like, man,
I can just see her really teaching kids this, or
I can see her, you know, really expanding on what
I got, or me expanding on what she got. You know,
it's bigger than that. And that's why we were brainwashing
(29:59):
society Taddy to look at females sexually and be like
that's the one, and too many women are sexualized and
men go for that instead of really looking at the
substance of a woman in the long run and being
with that long term.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That makes sense, And it's funny you say that because
a part of what she was saying was like, well,
this girl can bring this and do.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
This, but is she gonna wake up and twist it
and turn it?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
And then every single day I'm horny I'm doing this
and it's like damn, Like and what if your partners
not feeling that? Are you gonna need that to where
you got to go get it from someone else? Like
if everything is driven off of sex, it's not going
to have real longevity.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
In a relationship and that's just the truth.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, it's I mean, I get what she's trying to
say to relationships. And I said this some episodes ago.
I feel like do be based on sexual and in
a lot of ways, because if I'm with you and
you find out I have sex with another person, it
could be over. It's like, damn, you didn't look at
(31:04):
everything else I brought to the table, The intangibles, the
substance like that just go out the window because.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Of a mishap, because of a mistake, well.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Because of just like sex is just like it's in
our mind. It's like how do I even explain or work.
You know, It's it's a beautiful thing when done with
the person that you really feeling, you know what I'm saying.
(31:37):
But if it's just like casually done and just because
you just a horny bastard and like she being a whole,
it's just like, damn, why did I risk all other
things for that? But we're sometimes as men and women
(31:57):
weak individuals because sex and that it's like a drug,
you know what I'm saying. It's like people just want
that quick fix ins high, real quick because it feels
good at the moment, but then something then, like a
lot of times, you see people regret it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You feel miserable after you get got. All I see
on the internet is black men downing black women. Every
day in our comments, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Way more men.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I would assume when I started this journey that it
would be women hating on women. Every bad negative comment
about me is mainly from a man.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I rarely see a woman comment negative.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And I didn't know men were so catty like that
and so quick to want to put a black woman down,
like she's trash, she's this, she's that, she's like the
most horrible things you can think of.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And I'm like, who raised y'all?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Because I come from a generation and my dad and
how I was taught, Like I never see my dad
talking down on a woman like that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Even if you can'tundstand this.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Motherfucker, he's not gonna sit in my face pillow talk
about another woman or bring her down. He probably did
it behind in his own room like this bitch, you know,
But it was never that, And I feel like black women.
All I see on the internet is how white women
are better, American non American women are better, this and
that are better better or better, and it's like, have
(33:19):
your preference, but don't bring us down while you're doing it.
If you want to be with a woman that's not
American or not white, do that, but stop referencing it
to a black woman. Because when black women get with
a white man, they're not talking about black men are trash.
They're just loving and living their life with this white man, period.
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And it's like, you don't have to sit here and
down the other race because you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Fuck with them. You don't have to do that at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
If you want to mess with a white woman and
an Asian woman and this woman, go do that and
leave us out of the conversation, period point blank. And
I think that that's what the women are frustrated about.
And if we have an opinion on this, we're aggressive.
See she has too much of opinion.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's why they don't like you. That's because you talk
too much. You're loud, Okay.
Speaker 13 (34:09):
I remember maybe like a year ago, I was like
I said to my husband, I was like, I want
to give you head tonight, like it's the first time,
like we've never done this before, and I want you
to teach me, like you're teaching a masterclass, like step
by step. And it was so crazy because in the
end I was like, I don't do any of those
things in my routine. Oh, like how long has it
(34:30):
been that I've been doing things a little still last Yeah,
I mean it works, you get to the same end function.
But like if he re taught me and guided me
because his body's changed, you know, his sensations has changed,
his taste has changed, like what turns up on.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Has change and that could be sexy too, Like that's
a turn on, Like telling me what to do when
to do it, that's a turn on. Yeah, you're open
to it. But if you're open for whoever likes that.
But still that's good. And like you said, I I
think a lot of people the ego is involved. So
you're like, I don't want to ask those questions because
I feel like I should know what I'm doing or
(35:06):
I already know what I'm doing. But it's like no,
And I think that even works for a new partner,
like teach me what you like because everyone is different.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
And it goes again to what most people want in
a partner in the beginning, most people, which I tell
people all the time, stop wishing for genies and mind readers.
I want someone who just knows what I like. I
want somebody who just understands me. I want somebody who
just intuitively knows how I'm feeling. Sometimes you're not going
to know how you feel, so having somebody who makes
assumptions when you haven't figured things out is not necessarily
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the best formula for growth. And maybe they can guess
it right a few of the times, but things are
going to change. So you want somebody who's humble and
ask questions and is curious, and is open and is
down to explore, down to challenge their own humanity, down
to say no, like who was clear about their boundaries
and could revisit them later. There's been many things in
my relationship that my partner has turned down or I
(35:57):
have turned down, that we have circled back on months later.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Let's say you're in a relationship and your girl gets
a lot of requests from just random man or like people,
and they're like, Hey, you're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Let me send you a cash app.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Let me pay for your noise, Let me cash app
you Instagram.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Oh, here's my cash app? Is that foul?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh run that homete.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I need percent of that, baby, how much he sent
you a hundred? I need a dub he sent you
five hundred. Okay, that's gonna cost you a hundred. Could
run that to me. So if you feel comfortable a
set the money from guys, give me some and then
we good with it.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
So I can feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
So I'm gonna say this, I was in a real
life I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Good with that. We making move with that. Don't go
past that. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
So this is that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So I was in a relationship one time and I
remember I was at South Beverly Grill, sitting at the bar,
and there was like a guy sitting next to me,
right and I'm on the phone my dude, Da da
da da, and he's like, hey, telling the bartender because
I'm at the bar. He's like, hey, I want to
pay for her meal. So he overheard that. He's like what,
like he wants to pay for your meal?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And I was like yeah, I guess, and I'm like no, no, no,
you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
And the dude was pissed because he was like I
would never I didn't accept it.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I was on the phone with him but I was like,
I would.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Never He's like, if you accepted that, that would be
so disretractful to our relationship because a man doesn't just
stop at buying you a meal. Then he's gonna ask
your number, this and that, And now it looks like
I'm not taking care of you as a man and
I'm not doing my job, like I'll pay.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
For this whole meal right now, I'll send you the money.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
You know, you don't have to like work for nothing
or need nothing, So why would you accept that?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
So, like, what is your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like if your girl was at a bar and a
random man was like, oh, let me pay for her
mail right there?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
That's cool with you two? Or you're good with that, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Look like this is my thing, like let a trick trick.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Hello, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
But if you're.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Gonna go past that, the line crossed where you now
it's like, listen, you offer to pay for my meal.
I accepted it. That don't give you the open door
to have a conversation. I appreciate you, bro, but I
have a man, so I thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Now I gotta go now.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Is it the same for if you're at a bar
and man sends you a drink. Can she drink that drink?
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Hey, he sent you a drink from across the bar.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Here you go. I'm not really into that because I
don't know what's in that drink. I need to see
the port. You know what I'm saying. I don't know
if he you know, put the You know what I'm saying.
I'm not a fan of drinks being sent to me,
like if I didn't see him port. You know what
I'm saying, unless I know the person, Like and somebody
I don't know they sending you a drink. Come on, bro,
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that's like you're not even you're playing like, come on,
you're playing around with me. No, no, you might do
some foul shit. No, I'm not doing that. That's not
that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta like be aware of
your surroundings.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
You gotta be smart out here, Like, dude, want to
buy you a drink? Okay, good look, all right, I
gotta dude, I gotta I gotta girl a girl like
I got girls offer me drinks like all right, cool,
good look, hey toast, Hey, yeah, what's your name. All right, Yeah,
that's cool. I got a girl. But you know I
appreciate it. I know, you know whatever. All right, I'm
over here now I'm gonna move though, I'm gonna move around.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I'm not gonna sit in the same spot either, right
if they're doing that, nah, but like like it's hard
for something, like somebody do that for me. That's gotta
be in a restaurant, like like we in another spot,
like you know, it's hard, like you ain't just buying
me like most of people buy me drinks?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Is fan?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
So right now, Paul is going viral because he's said,
and I quote that men need to cheat on their
women to find out if they really love them.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
They need to cheat, like as in because she means deceit.
Speaker 14 (40:14):
Right, so you need to go outside, like there's open
relationship where your girl is very much aware you're gonna
have other women? Right, But why cheat? Why not just
say right now we're still dating, but I'm gonna explore
other women.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
That to me sounds like manipulation.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
It is sound like yees to be honest.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
But like how like say a man in my posician say,
like I meet a girl. I know her, she know
who I am, she understands my background and all of this.
How do I find out if she truly loves me
for me?
Speaker 11 (40:47):
Well, how do you find out if you truly love
her by cheating on her?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
That was the only thing I could come up with,
And I know there's more things, but cheating people.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
It's such a.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Broad line into cheating because people automatically think sex nor
they don't have to be a sexual encounter like just
I don't know if it'll be intentional, but it unintentional,
like damn, But.
Speaker 14 (41:10):
Let me give you some real talk. Only people that
love you for you is God, dogs and your mama.
Like that's just real talk. You became who you are
everyone that's attached to you, like that's your essence, you know,
you know, so you have to you almost just have
to accept that to a certain degree, you're not really
gonna know who's there for you unless you got into
a position where you're really down and out. Let's say
(41:32):
you lose it all and then you have no money,
no fame. That's the only way you're gonna know if
a person's really about you. But at the same time,
I mean you are who you are, Like everybody's working
to attract, Like girls go to the gym to look
cute because they want the best of the best. So
it's almost like you would have You're never gonna know that.
(41:52):
Just god dogs stand your mama. Yeah, you have to
go through something, I.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Think to tell a woman the truth and let her
truly see who you are. That's how you know if
anyone loves you, when you can see me for the
person that I am.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Maybe if I lose my legs.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Maybe if you lose your money and you broke.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Maybe if you ask her, Maybe if you call her
and say, Babe, I don't got it this month?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Can you help me pay my bills?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
How about that? Like you know, not everything has to
be attached to me.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I mean, if she.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Can't afford it.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
So you know what's interesting that I hear that often
from men who are extremely successful.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Is that a concern of yours?
Speaker 14 (42:28):
Like do you feel like everyone around you just wants
to be around you because of who you are, because
you have money, because you have status?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's the that's the feeling.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Does that bout you?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I think you just grow in it and you just
like Damn you always keep.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
A you know, you just always feel like you're looking
over your shoulder. You always. It messes with your trust,
you know, and it's like, damn. You might be sitting
there one day and just be like, man, you know,
I'm ready to be off.
Speaker 14 (42:56):
But you know what, though I like what you said.
You gave a great example. Be honest and see what
she does with your honesty, right, because you gotta for
real love last in love. If you want to go
to the end of time, if that's the position that
you're at, you want her to know who you are.
You can't act every single day. You can act and
to beget it. Everybody shows up as an actor for
like the first thirty sixty days, but eventually you gotta
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take the wig off, you gotta take the makeup off.
It gets real. Is that persons still gonna love you.
So what I would say a person in your position,
be vulnerable and see what happens with it. I mean,
it's gonna be a risk, but I think anyone that
you could be completely honest with and if they accept
you for who you are, okay, that's that number one.
Or if they say, you know what, I respect that
you need other women. But I'm not about that life.
(43:39):
So I'm gonna go and if I'm available when you
come back, so be it.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
But I'm not tripping.
Speaker 14 (43:44):
I'm not gonna be on your list because you Paul Pierce,
like you know what I'm saying. If you like me,
that means other men like me. So you just better
hope while you're playing. I'm available when you've done.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
You know, like you said, you said, you said, be honest.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
What about tell a lie and react?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Why would she not?
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Okay, all right, listen, she said be honest, be vulnerable, right,
but what if you tell a lie?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
So I don't go out and cheat.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
But then I just go and tell her I cheated
on her, well a lie about it, just to see
boom how she reacts.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
I think.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I think No, okay, that could be a test. And
that is the stupidest thing.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You're creating distress in your relationship for no reason. You
are creating tests that don't need to be created. Like
I said, God will create tests for you in a relationship.
Your representative can only stay within the relationship for the
first three months. After that, you're representative and who you're
pretending to be, and try to show up as the
perfect woman or man is gonna go away and people
are gonna have to start seeing you for who you
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are and understand you might be Paul Pierce. But sometimes
for women, being with a celebrity is very difficult. It
takes away a lot from them, you know, and who
they are as a person, and you're at the forefront
of the life and as a woman.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
That can be difficult.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
So there is a lot of tests, especially being with
the man of your stature, that a woman probably has
to face. Why are you trying to create this trust
in a relationship that you.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Don't need to do.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
No, I'm trying to create trust?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
No, bye line. So you're being selfish.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
You're creating something for you, but you're causing chaos for
the other person. Right, So you're being selfish and you're
not reciprocating what you want. How does she trust you?
You're a celebrity with money. Women are throwing themselves at
you all day. So you're so worried about creating trust
for you that you're taking it away from your relationship
and it's just silly.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Well, let me jump in, let me jump in.
Speaker 14 (45:29):
I can see you're very passionate and I see both perspectives,
not to defend him, but to explain him.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, he's he's.
Speaker 14 (45:36):
You know, when you are first of all, you're part
of the one percent. So his life is the one percent.
You know, when you're a basketball player, women are constantly
coming up.
Speaker 11 (45:45):
To you all his life like you probably was. That's
a player in high school.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Right.
Speaker 14 (45:48):
So before I go any further, let me ask you
this question. How do you do you respect a woman
that will be okay with you?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Cheated?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
No, I don't respect the woman that would be okay
with me.
Speaker 11 (46:00):
Okay, So okay. So that's so that's the point.
Speaker 14 (46:02):
And that's why I understand why he wants to do
the test because in his mindset, which I appreciate, he
wants to see, Okay, if I tell her I'm sleeping
with other women and she does nothing, I know clearly
she wants to be with me because what I can provide.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
But if I tell her is she's.
Speaker 11 (46:20):
Out, Like nah, I mean, I know who you are.
Speaker 14 (46:22):
I respect who you are, but I respect myself more
than I respect who you are. I gotta keep it moving.
So you're right, it's not a good lie. But he's
just trying to weed out all the women because there's
so many women who will not give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well, you're wrong at what you're saying, because he's actually
trying to say that if you cheat and stay, you
love me.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
No, no, no, he'll.
Speaker 11 (46:43):
Say, Okay, then he's stepping up right now.
Speaker 14 (46:48):
He just said he just Okay, that's to different answers,
because you told me if she cheats and she accepts it,
you will in respect him.
Speaker 11 (46:56):
Okay, So which one is?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
So?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Which one is the truth? It's true that the dark.
Speaker 14 (47:02):
Because you just I gotta go back and defend her,
because that's student for answer.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
So what is the honest truth?
Speaker 14 (47:09):
Would you respect a woman if you cheated and she
stayed with you, or would you respect her more if
she left you?
Speaker 5 (47:17):
No, no, that's a good question. No, I don't what
I respect her?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Okay.
Speaker 14 (47:24):
So you cheat on her, tell her and she's like,
you know what, don't let it happen again and forgives
you easily, or you cheat on her. You tell her
and she's like, I'm out, Like that was not our agreement.
I already told you what I was on and she leaves?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Which one be out?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You rather be out?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Yeah? Because now let me let me. Uh, it's how
she go out.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
If she go out the door, it's a certain way
you got to go out the door. Got to be
mad and sad, she has to cry.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So, so what happened to your clip that's going viral
today on Hollywood on Lock all the Box where he said,
in order to see if a woman loves you, you have
to cheat on her and if she stays, she loves you.
So where is that coming in with this whole scenario
because it doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
Now, well, well they gonna it's gonna be a it's
gonna be a breakup and a get back.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Okay, so you want to put you want to make
a woman struggle for love basically.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
I mean, how else the woman gonna go through it?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
But you know, Cam Newton, let me make sure I
do not misquote him. He said that he needs the
list of his girls.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Partners that she's slept with, period, the names.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
And he said he needs the names because he wants
to know who got one up on him and he
doesn't want to walk into the place with his girl
and he's like, yeah, she bad. She did want some juice, baby,
He said, that is the juice, babe, lying and everything,
and he was like, I don't want to be in
front of a man who I know, like you had
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that and now I'm key king with a man and
you was with my girl. And he was like, it's
just about me having that transparency and knowing so I
could move accordingly. And then his girl came out and
was just like, I'm so glad I gave him my
whole list. I feel relieved. You know, she's she's tweeted
(49:22):
at or put it somewhere. So yeah, that was his thing.
And he was like, and there's a lot of people
that are like, all right, cool, I could work with that,
and he said, and then if it's someone like that
was my teammates, you know, like that was someone I
see every day, Like I'm not, I'm not, I might
not be able to.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Deal with that, he said. But if it's someone cool cool,
you know. But yeah, he said, I need that list.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Yeah, I mean I get it, you know, And that's
it's for me.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
It's a double less sword because it's like, damn, do
I really want to know or do I like I
get it? I get it, Like I completely get it,
you know what I'm saying. I was in a situation
to where I was talking to this girl, I was
dating this girl right and you know, we went out
a couple of times and then it was like I
remember we had dinner if we sat down and she
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was like, yeah, my ex is woof the woot And
I was just like what, like I currently kick it
with him, like from time to time his number, Like
we just kicked it, Like like why wouldn't you say
nothing at the beginning, Like you know that I kick
it with dude, Like, so I get it, you know
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what I'm saying. So like for me, I was like,
I'm not talking to you no more. You know, I'm
good on that because I don't move like that. If
it's a dude, I'm kicking it with it, and I
know you hear his ex I'm not moving like that.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah facts, you know.
Speaker 5 (50:51):
So like I get where Cam is coming from with that,
because those type of situations can come about and I'm
not mad at that, you know, because like I've been
in situations or with girls that I was committed to
to where I asked, like who else you know?
Speaker 3 (51:06):
And you could tell me the truth or you could
lie whatever. I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
You know what I'm saying, but it's gonna show any
way eventually, but like, nah my, somebody I kick it with,
Like you should have the type of like you know,
like you should be with somebody, be like like you
shouldn't even want to talk to me if.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
You exactly, that's weird, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
That's on you. You're talking to me like I'm not
to get back dude.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, you're trying to get back on some.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Sad but if we're trying to get serious, like.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
That's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
That's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
And that's true.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
I feel like the whole list or whatever the names are,
to me, I'm like not against it, but I also
feel like it's for me more of a thing of
like respect, Like, look, I'm not gonna have my man
in front of someone shaking hand bow up with someone
that I know I used to mess with. I'm gonna
tell him like, yo, we had a situation going on.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Like that's more of the thing, like I'll give a
list if it's needed, but I think that the bigger
thing is like I'm not gonna let my man feel
like he's out of control and like not respected or
like someone feels like they got a one up. I
never want anyone to feel like they got a one
up on my man because that's a reflection of me.
I'm a reflection of him, Like I don't want that feeling,
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and I don't want that for me, Like I don't
want to be out with my man and this girl
like yeah, girl, that's like I'm gonna feel crazy. And
if I'm key keying with you and I'm cool, like
that makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
And I would never want my man to feel that
same way.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
So he's the gate like I would like, it's probably crazy,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
I'm gonna send you. I'm gonna fact you these because
I don't want you.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
To say no, Actually, my list is not crazy, No,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
And I honestly haven't. No.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
My list is small, like I can count my lit
on my hands, like I don't have a big list,
and I know who I've slept with and for me,
like I said, it's more of a respecting to where
if I'm like, yeah, if my man is keycking with someone,
like first of all, if I have a man and
I know I mess with his friend or someone he
kicks it with, that's not my man, I'm not We're
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not fucking around like to begin with, unless I just
did not know, and once I find out, I'm telling
you like, oh, look, this is the situation because I
don't want someone else to say it like that's weird.
Speaker 5 (53:31):
This is the one thing I would love to ask Cam.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Like.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
I would love to ask Kim if he gave her
his list? Was that required?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
I don't think that was required.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Would that be a thing?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I don't think that's a thing.
Speaker 5 (53:49):
Like, you know, he's a pretty famous dude. Yeah, you know,
it's a possibility he been with some famous women, or
it's a possible ability he could have been with like
some of the girls he's dated or been like in
a situation.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
His girls friends.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Yeah, one of her friends. I wonder if he gave
the list too. So I don't know, Cam, it go
both ways too. Did you give your list up or
it's just required from her? I'm just saying, like, damn,
I ain't ever, I'm sure I wondered.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Like damn, I mean, I don't think that it was
Like me personally, I'll be honest. If I'm with a man,
I don't want to know his list but what I
want to know is like, don't have me looking stupid, but.
Speaker 5 (54:35):
I will tell you this about a man don't even
know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
His name.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Yeah, hold on, let me go through the phone.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Like what like I used to like a man don't
know his list?
Speaker 3 (55:12):
This is the taking over the.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
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