October 27, 2025 • 44 mins
We are back! And this is a fun one! We discuss Gilbert Arenas’ advice to Neon, black love, Rubi Rose’s viral tweet, Azar crazy story with her ex and so much more! Put your kids to sleep, light up a candle & get ready for another episode of Truth After Dark!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That black love different.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That's not what she was saying the other day.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
You was.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You don't say that at all.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'm just saying I'm looking at the difference that black
love is different.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Mama's wasn't bad bitches, And that's what men are marrying.
Ruby Rose your boo that you was shooting your shot,
You wash your shot.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think the ones that I loved, I loved them.
I thought they both was the love of my life.
Have a man ever broke up with you? No, a
man has never broke up with you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Men don't break up women for real.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I ain't gonna lie. I cried over a girl.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That's good. You should be vulnerable, like dall.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I can't even leave this like them. Oh no, through it.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
They say broke men have great sex, way better sex
than anyone. And you know they might not be lying
on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
This is the taking over the game, all right?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Everybody, Welcome to Truth after Dark.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello,
beautiful people, welcome to another episode of the Truth after Dark.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm your host, Azar Faraday.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Paul pierced the Truth in the building once again.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nice, how are you feel?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I'm good man? You know Halloween is coming up. Yeah,
holiday season my favorite part of the year, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas,
all that rounding out the end of the year, finishing
off the birthday. Mom feeling good right now?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, I love that. I love that happy belated birthday.
So today we'll hop right in. So Gilbert Arenas was
on neon I guess some streamer named neon stream.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he said that basically, you
as a man, need a few little hoes to get
run through to get your confidence back.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And he basically referenced back page. I don't know if
you know what backpage is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Back Page was like, it's like.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Hos and he was like telling him, like you know
backpage and he was like huh because he's younger.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And then he's like, you know Instagram, it's the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
And he's like, you get a few holes run through
him and as a man, that's going to build your
confidence up.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Do you agree with that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm trying to figure out Bill Joe confidence.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Like maybe an ego, I think I kind of, I
don't know, get you something easy, so like now you're
feeling good about yourself, maybe.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Or yeah, I mean it gets you like a bad
one that you run through.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I guess so you can get your ego out.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
N I ain't going with that advice because then you're
gonna go over there you talking about pay and then
when you get into the real when you when you
gotta really kind of mouthfee something up that ain't gonna work.
You gotta go through the fire. You gotta get rejected
one hundred times. And listen, this is how you gotta
figure it out. You gotta swing for the fences. Say
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you swing. Say you go to a party and you
talk to the thirty girls. If five bite you good.
If you get five, If you get five to bite,
you get the number. At least that's get your confidence
going that you work within that five. Like that's all that,
Like all that back page Nah, that ain't that ain't
gearing you up for the real game.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Do you think Instagram is the new back page?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah? Probably so, right game?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah it is. Girls is really selling they up on Instagram? Yeah, yeah,
for sure. It is just the more enhanced herculean back page.
Like back page only only has so much, but.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Now you can get all types of women. Yeah, all
around the way.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Back page was local and it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Was like only it wasn't as bad.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Like now you can get all type of women, like
regular everyday women, this woman, that woman.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's a lot of options.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I had a homie that that that had a bad
I've never done back page, by the way, but he
was like kicking it in was kicking it. One day
he called up a back page right like yeah, because
the back page, I'm not even sure you you know
what they look like or is there photos on it
or I forget the little highest setup. Well, I know
it's I don't know if it was the phone book
or on the newspaper or what. But I remember she
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pulled up on them when we was playing Domino's and
I was like, he was like, yeah, that's the back page.
I was like, what, you could just call somebody over
there and they just come over. Yeah, yeah, you know,
one hundred dollars or something.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I could be scared, like you get set up about.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
One hundred dollars next to y'all, know you know they
you know they doing they what too? I was like, man,
let me get on up out of here. I was like, damn,
that's crazy. And now Instagram is the modern day prostitution.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I mean, in so.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Many words, it's just how you look at it and
how you go about it. Because when you look at girls,
just the way they promote theyselves and sell themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What are you saying? Yeah, pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But as far as like getting your confidence up, I'm
not sure. You got to get your confidence up by
going through the rough and then be like, all right,
I got over the hump, like all that. Now getting
out of a slump. I get it, you get out
of a slump. But getting your confidence it's two different things.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Do you think that men get with certain women just
to boost their confidence and be like, Okay, I can
get her to love me, like making someone feel like
making someone.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Fall in love with you.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You like, is that an ego boost for men? Because
there's a lot of men that hold onto relationships that
they don't really want.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
To be in.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Is that an ego boost by getting certain type of women?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, and you get them in a certain way too,
like have them like love you or be on you
or whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean men use it for ego boosts, But like,
I don't know, that's a difficult question for me. I'm
telling you like I ain't never really had no confidence
that you never really had no like get ego booster issues,
Like from the first time I was started talking to
girls and having girlfriends, like in my seventh eighth grade
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and you know, going to the dance with somebody. I
never really like was like afraid to approach your women
or needed my ego to be stroked from a woman.
So it's hard for me to like really get into that. Like,
but you see certain men and you see them with
certain women who are out of their league, I can tell.
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But then then as a man, you look at them like, damn,
you know, he probably breaking her off.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Some bread or yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
People lifestyle people are gonna assume that, you know so,
but you have to wonder sometime, like you're looking like
that with him. Okay, okay, you're doing your thing. I
ain't no hate. It's just like now I know he's
doing too much.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Though.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Well, a lot of women are just with men for
superficial reason.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah for sure, that same with me, and men are
with these women for super you know what. I just
want to, you know, get with her for this, you know,
just for the sexual pleasure.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And that's it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I really, you know, and then it just leads to like,
y'all don't really like each other.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Does a woman's love feel like fulfilling?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Does a woman's because I feel like women are extremely
emotional and like express it, you know, so like for
a man, is that an overwhelming feeling or is it like, Wow,
I feel fulfilled by this type of love.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I ain't no greater love than the love you gonna
get from. Like, I feel like the people closest to you,
and if that's your woman or if that's your brother, sister,
mama or auntie, you know, because I feel like the
best love I think comes from family because you can
never break up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, like relationships, you just break up.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I feel like this, this is what I feel.
People say that the love from your partner is stronger
than your family because if you are in a relationship
with someone, they're choosing to be with you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Your family is just your family.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It's stronger because it's gonna be somebody with every day,
You're gonna go through more things with them as an
adult that your family don't see. You're more ready, you're
more in tune with them, uh, mentally and spiritually because
you laying with them every single night. Uh, so the
love can grow to be greater. You know, you're not
talking to your mama every day like that, or your
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brother or sister a being like you are. Your partner. Yeah,
he was laying next to you, seeing your hearing your
deeper secrets and knowing like everything about you.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It is still like all right, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You because no one knows you like your partner. Your
partner's going to know you more than anybody.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And that's why it's more crushing when that break up.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, for sure, just like.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Damn the soul and gave her or gave him, you know,
as a woman everything. Yeah, you like damn, I just
you just feel like it went down the dreams. I
gave him my deeper secrets. And then with the society
we live in today and the culture we live in today,
it's even more heartbreaking because then women and men they
go out there and spill your tea when if it don't.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, and everything is incriminating now because if you're texting,
people are screenshotting, people are sending people like you don't
even want to be vulnerable on a text. You don't
want to be vulnerable, like because it's like, damn are
you recording?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's dream shouting? Are you doing anything?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And it's like you would hope you would be with
someone that wasn't that petty you know what I mean,
But you never really know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But yeah, that's tough. Now going into another topic.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Gucci Mane and Keisha kior So they were on the
Breakfast Club and they had an interview about his bipolar
and schizophrenia. So he's bipolar and he's schizophrenic, yes, Gucci.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Man Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
They were on there talking about his episodes and she
said that when he goes through an episode to they
actually now she helps him, meaning she'll take Twitter off
his phone, take all the social media apps off his phone,
like change his password to lead everything because she doesn't
want the public to see him having an episode.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And then she'll tell him like you're sick.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's what she said, like you're sick right now, You're it,
And he'll be like okay, and she said something and
he mentioned how when he would have episodes, he would
give away.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Things because Kanye West.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Kim recently on an interview said that Kanye West would
give away Lamborghini's and all types of stuff when he
had an episode, and Gucci said, he did the same thing,
and he said, and it was really foul because his
friends knew he was sick and they would take very
expensive jewelry, million dollars worth of jewelry and everything. And
he said, as soon as I got better and out
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of jail, he said, I cut all of those people
off because I'm like, you took advantage of me when
I was sick. And so his wife is a big
part of what helps him not have future episodes and
like got help for him and he's on meds, he said.
But the public in the audience is like kind of
bashing Kim Kardashian now because Kim dealt with the same
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thing with Kanye, but she was handling it very differently.
She said it was just too much for like she
can't deal with someone who's having these episodes.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
What do you feel about, Like, at what point.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Is that schoo man's girl, right?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
His wife?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
She is black, Yeah she's black.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
See that that black love different.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That's not what she was saying the other day was
you don't say that at all.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I'm just saying I'm looking at the difference that black
love is different, never not said, I have not said it,
but it is different.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I think black women are loyal to their man.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's what it is a thing to black men specifically, Well,
we gotta do the statistics.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They said that it's a statistic that you know.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I know that I don't know. It's not in front
of me.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
But like you know, I'm just saying black love is
different because you know of the poverish communities we come from,
and we've seen each other go through so much of
a struggle mentally. Uh, that is just like damn. You know,
you can be broken as a kid and as an
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adult with what the world puts you through, you know,
and when you got the real strong Black ladies. And
the reason the criticism is out now because it ain't
it's a different type of Black women now. It's like
old school black women are different. We could just say
that like are my mama and my mama's mamas and
like the old ladies that was just like home, making
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sure they're men and and working two or three jobs
and really putting.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Your mama's wasn't bad bitches, And that's what men are marrying,
like just keeping it real, Yo, Mama's wasn't that. They
was big arms cooking in the kitchen. Get shit right,
But men don't want to marry them. They don't want
to marry them type of women. Men have conditioned women
to believe they have to look like this, that, that, that,
and then their minds are fucked up. The more surgeries
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you get, the more things you got going, your mind
goes crazy and then you you you change.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Amas.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Suggest this to men out there, like dog, if you
a black dude and you got you a black woman
who got you know them arms?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
You know them arms? You know.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That photover at the elbow and they flap at the bottom.
Get that one that we're gonna know how to get
down in the kitchen. She got that high booty, you
know what I'm saying, and she gonna be wearing that
that that bonnet in the kitchens, cooking, cooking up. That's
the ones you need to get with them. Is the
ones ain't going nowhere. That's what I'm saying. They're gonna
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get damn for you.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
But then men, men will get with that type of woman,
and then those sheet with a woman they're sexually attracted
to because you can't be with a woman that you're
not sexually attracted to. As a man, you're gonna because
you're gonna have too much temptation to want what you want. Like,
there's no way you can't tell me men do that
all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That's gonna fade. Eventually, we talked about that. The sexual
attraction is gonna fade.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, let's move on the missile.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The myth attraction is gonna be forever. The mind is
always gonna be powerful because when you look at her
over there with them orangs like that and she and that,
because you're looking like, damn, that's my baby right there.
You know what I'm saying, This is crazy looking at her. Man,
she's blood, sweat, tears right there. And that's a more
powerful type of love than like, man, I ain't really
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attracted when I do all that and all because when
I see her doing all that and she's getting down,
that's attractive.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me go grab her up real quick. Come here, girl,
you know what I'm saying. Come here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, but when she starts to undress.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And what I'm looking through all of that, come here, girl,
you so you crack it. Give me here, get over here.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Seeing a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, so let's move on from that discussion.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Okay, So Ruby Rose your boo that she was your shot,
You was your shot publicly, yeah, Ruby Rose.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay. Ruby Rose says.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
She'd rather be alone and that women need to start
rewarding ain't shit man with babies. She got her own bread,
She don't need you and words, and she's cool. So
I'm confused. Do you feel like babies are reward to men?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What you mean a baby is a reward to a man?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Do you feel that way as a man? I'm really asking.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
It's rewarding if it's a baby that's had through love.
You know, when you have a kid through love, it's rewarding.
But when a baby coming it ain't through love. It's
just like damn messed up right here, you know what
I'm saying. So all that like, that's not a game
to play, you know what I'm saying. You don't want
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to play no games like oh, rewarding these dudes with babies.
I mean, I understand that there's men out here that's
trying to trap beautiful women, and there's women out here
trying to trap men too. Yeah, so it goes both ways. Yeah,
I don't look at it. It's just a one sided
deal because there's more women trying to trap than men
trying to trap.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, so women do be trying to trap. But what
I'm wondering is what are you trapping? Because it's like
you're gonna get a little bit of child support and
then you're gonna be stressed out and then I would
hate to have a baby with a man that I'm
not with, and then I have to have his seat
inside of me growing and I have to watch this
man possibly be with another woman or create a family
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out of love and I'm over here with this baby,
like I just can't.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It will blow me.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I would never be able to do that, and I
wouldn't want to bring my child into the world already
in a broken family. Like I feel like there's a
lot of women. I get it if you're like against
abortion or whatever, but I feel like there's a lot
of women who aren't against it, but they just want
to try to have a baby to hopefully get gained
something from it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I'm sorry to cut you off, no, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
No, But like a lot of times and some or
sometimes women be having be like you know, what, I'm
gonna have a baby.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
To try to keep them in.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I think I could keep them if I have it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I know where you.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Know, like your relationship ain't really as close as you
thought it was. But if I had a baby, at
least I'm gonna have and with men too. Men don't
have a kid with a lady thinking like, oh, I
got that for life.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You know I could get that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But you know what I will say about this really quick,
is the whole concept of keeping a man because you
have a baby is so skewed because even in a
healthy relationship, having a baby makes the relationship more difficult, even.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
If you guys love each other, even if you're healthy.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So imagine having a baby with somebody you're already on
the rocks with a baby is not gonna save your marriage.
A baby is not gonna save your relationship, but it
actually adds dynamics that make it much harder to deal with.
So unless you're ready and prepared to have that baby,
you guys are on the same page, and even then
it's hard imagine what's gonna happen. And if oh, I'm
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trying to keep this man, because we're in a bad place.
That's just gonna drive a bigger wedge in between y'all.
To be honest, I've never been supid enough to think that.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, I said that a lot that, Like, man, a
lot of times a kid be just it can go
one or two ways. It could grow you apart, or
it can glow closer. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
It's just the times that we live in because you
got to make the adjustment. Like when the kid comes,
there's an adjustment like all right, we ain't about to
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just lay here and let's get up and go to
Vegas or let's get up and go on a vacation.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now we got some other, some other a child to
care for.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, you know, and it's like you gotta really plan,
yeah for sure now, and that can get frustrated.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
For the man and the woman.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah for sure, plan sex, you gotta plan dates, you
gotta plan like just a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
There is So this is something that a lot of
men have said on podcasts or like, this is a
something I've heard so many times in my lifetime. They
say that men only have like one true love and
it's usually the one who got away, Like maybe they
hurt a woman, a woman, and like they messed up.
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She got away, and the rest of the people that
they're with they're just trying to recreate that experience, but
they don't truly love them, and they're always thinking about
that other woman that got away. Maybe they were young,
they lost her or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
How do you feel like.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh, that's a good one, that one true love? Which man,
don't I don't know. It's tough to really like really
like put a finger on that one, because I'm like,
when I look at the loves of my life, is
there one? Or is there two? Is there just the
one that I say got away? I think the ones
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that I loved, I loved them. I thought they both
was the love of my life, like especially because I
was with them so long. You know, so I don't
really agree, but like, there's only one true love of
your life. I don't know how she felt. I know
how I felt because I always think like this is it?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah? You know so I'm just like damn.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I never really look back and say, damn, I
was supposed to be you know what? You never know,
you know what, It's probably one girl off. I actually
felt like I probably should have been with but didn't
end up with and ended up with a different girl.
Like this was like this was like in college too.
This was like a real pivotal moment for me. Like
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I was kind of like dating both of them and
I had to make a decision, but I let them
make the decision, and I was thinking like, damn, maybe
I should have ended up with the other one, but
the one made the decision, and you know I couldn't.
I couldn't fight it, and we wind up being together
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for like, you know, six or seven years. Yeah, but uh,
nothing I really regret.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know. I think things happen.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And the crazy thing is, you know, even though I
ended I didn't end up being with either one of them,
you know, marriage, our kids or nothing with them. But
I remember thinking.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That, Yeah, I feel like for women.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
They said one that you think like you look back
and say I let him get away.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, everyone, I would never look at a man and
say he got away?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Are you kind of crazy?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Let me ask you, have you have you? Have you?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Have you ever have a man ever broke up with you? No,
a man has never broke up with you.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Men don't break up women, for real, I broke up
with somebody before. You said, you say this all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That men don't, I know, I say, normally men don't.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, girl, no, My relationships have always been the man
is doing foul ship.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm trying to make it work, make it work, give give,
give love, love love.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I'm exhausted at that point. Now I'm like, I don't
even want to be with you anymore. And I still try,
and then therapy and then finally I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Cool, Like, so you never nobody was like I'm good.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh no, no, no, yeahn for real, no, not no.
Men don't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, when you was eighty, he wasn't like I'm good.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
No, but I think that he did a lot of
fucked up ship to basically say you're good, but you
didn't say that. I mean, I feel like men break
up without work, Like they do stuff to make you
break up with them, and I feel like that's definitely
happened to me.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah for sure, then.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah yeah, but when they do it, then they're begging
to still be with you.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Like when a man like openly just disrespects you, yeah,
like he's like, I'm just like I don't care.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I'm opens the thing about what man, they like to
do that and then they're crying at your door, Like
what is it like?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Because you you you wanted to do this, Now you're crying.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
You can't because all of my exes and I can
stand all that hit me up for years.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You've seen a man cry? Yeah, your boyfriend?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, I seen a man cry and broke my heart.
It was the worst experience. I'll never forget it. I
remember the exact moment, and it wasn't It was some
bullshit because it's like I'm breaking I'm trying to leave you,
and now.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You're crying and you're the one that's foul. But it
made me stay with him because it fucked me up.
I was like, this is.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The I ain't gonna lie. I cried over girl.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's good. You should be vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I remember when we was breaking up. Man, it was
like this was like early two thousands. I was just
like I was playing that. I was playing all the
Usher and Mariah Carey breakup songs, and I was like
I was almost going through it. I was in the
house like damn, I can't an leave this, Like damn,
oh no, going through it.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I was like, damn, I was. I was going through.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It, like you know what, I feel like I technically
have been broken up with then yeah, but I feel
like every person that I've all my exes, they've always
doubled back and like tried to get back with me,
like seriously, like one of my exes that I had
to get a restraining order like for ten years, and
then another ex like well, like I have my exes.
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Most of my exes are blocked because they will hit
me WhatsApp, email me, love you please, like like seriously,
I'm not lying because I feel like they realize after
the fact, like damn, and by then I'm gone because
I put years of work.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
All my relationships are years long. They're not short, They're years.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You have you ever bumped into one of your ex
within the last couple of years?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I bumped into my ex.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
One time where I was on a date. Oh yeah, yeah,
I was on So this is the craziest story. I
was on a date with someone that I had just
like started talking to and we went to a ball
are and mind you, there was a girl at the
front of the bar checking this list of people. But
when she saw me, she was like hey, and she
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just let us in. So I'm like, I didn't think
it was a private event. The bar we went to
ended up being a private event for his and his
whole entire family was there and him and everything, and
we walk in. It was his cousin's event. We walk in,
it's his cousin's birthday. I look and I'm like, I'm
starting to trip out because I'm like, is this a dream?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
All of his family people, I'm a new day.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
We've been broken up for like a few years at
this point, and so we're so I walk in and
he's like, oh no, no, no, He's been blowing me
up always, and I like, have him blocked.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
He's texting, hitting what'sapp.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Email, what'sapp, blocked numbers, text me numbers, emails, calling people
like seriously for years. So then I see and he
had just recently started it back, like literally a few
week he started going hard again.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So I'm like, cause you have piped down for a minute.
So I'm in there. This man comes up his first
His family's like, azar, we wanted you guys back together
so bad. Oh my god, he showed up.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
They think I'm there because it's a private event. They
think I'm there. The girl happened to recognize me. And
then I'm at the bar with my little boo that
I'm with and he comes behind me to grab me
like this, and he's like, this is god. This can't
be a coincidence. I've been hitting you every day. I've
been on your line every day. I know this is fate.
I know we're supposed to be together.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It was okay, so hold on, he come up. Yeah,
what old boy doing the new day?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Nothing because it was too so no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
He was.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't it.
That was that though. It was like no, it was.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Like I'm good, I'm I'm leaving type shit, like I'm
I'm like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I was like all right.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
But then I kind of fucked up because I was
like I don't want to feel like this person is
controlling by like vibe to where I'm like walking and
running away from it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
So I was like, let me finish my drink, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But it just it wasn't a good situation. And it's
it's then they thought it was a setup.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I feel like that's disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
And I wasn't trying to because I didn't know this
was going to happen. But I'm like, at least us
finished the drink, Like, don't let these motherfuckers run us
up out of here like they anybody like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yo, listen, this is this is the thing. If you
out on the date.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't care if this is the first day and
you just met dude yesterday and your old flame come
and just grab you from behind, it's got to be
like something.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No, for sure, was that you think I'm just sitting there.
I was like move. I was like, uh uh, this
is crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Be like let's go, let's leave.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, you're right, and it was.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But I think that where I messed up was like
I was super anxietal and this wasn't my relationship yet
the person that I'm with. But you're right, and so
I think then the situation I just got weird and
I was like this is crazy because it's like all
the family everyone is staring me down. I'm like, this
is this is this is crazy. And the cousin is
like a famous rapper, so like they're in the music business.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Everyone's there. It's like photographs it's just a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I probably would have just played to the side, just
kind of see how you're gonna react. Yeah, I would
have just kind of just see how yo, I.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Think that's what it was going on.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Then I would have just been I would have just
kept it playing like that's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Saying, See what's going on over here?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Then? But no, it wasn't given like I'm over here,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, I'm just out here chilling.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It wasn't given. It was over here, like hey, what's up?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What's up? Is that your friend over there? Hey? You?
I would have doubled back to you like.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
But I wasn't disrespectful. I just was like, have an
anxiety about it. I can get overwhelmed. And I was
like this is crazy, like back up, you know what
I mean? Like, and then we left, we left, we left,
you know, okay, So moving on? Do you There's everyone
always says this, and there's a lot of men who
say this. Do men know very early on if they
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will marry a woman or.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Be with her for a long time?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Like a lot of men will say like I knew
right away, or I'll know within a month, or I'll
know within a few months that like, this is someone
I'll be with or it's someone I won't be with.
Like we know very quickly. And if a man is
trying to act like he don't know, he lying. And
if he's like, oh, I don't want to be a
relationship after like a certain amount of time, he's not
really rocking with you. Because a man knows and if
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he wants a woman, he's going to have her, and
he's not going to have her like single.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Don't they desperate?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Men know right away why they got to be desperate
because they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh yeah, you're gonna be my one first date.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
They're not saying first date. They're saying like.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
If a man desperate, I knew it. You ain't had
a man tell you that off the rip?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
And they were crazy ident message he was No, I
could tell what a man different, but it's a difference between.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
So listen, listen to this scenario. Listen to this scenario.
You're dating a man, not you know.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'm saying, like a woman is dating a man. A
woman is dating a man and they're getting to know
each other and all of this it's been months. Okay,
So she comes to this man and she's like, hey,
you know we've had we're having sex, I'm meeting family members,
We're doing everything, We're intertwining, we're with each other every day.
She asked a man, hey, like what are we doing?
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You know, like I want to be intentional about dating
and I want to like if we're going to be
spending and investing this much time with you, like I
want us to be in a relationship, like what is this?
And he's like like, you know, I don't really like
I don't like the relationship title thing, Like I don't
want to really be in a relationship right now, you know,
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whatever the case is, do you feel like cause he's
just not really rocking with her like that?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Basically, because.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
This is the debate they're saying, like if a man
is telling you like no, he don't want to be
in a relationship, it's the with you is silent, he
don't want to be with you.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I can see I can see where you he coming from,
because he could be his spirit could be broken to
where he's thinking about it, Like seriously, you could be
messing with a lady and it's kind of like you
got one foot in, one foot out, and then you
just be like when you try to put both feet
in through the door, you hesitating, kind of scared of
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that because you didn't been through that before. So you
like and you're comfortable where it is right there right
in that like that that middle ground, you know what
I'm saying. So it might take some guys, and it
may take some girls a little longer to get over
that hump of putting both feet in the door. And
so I can see, you know, because you've been traumatized
when you when you overly committed, when you went all
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the way in.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's fun. It's fun right now. I like where we at.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
And then you know, I like this speed right now,
I like the lane we in, but now you're trying
to jump into the carpool and all that, like hold.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
On, hold on.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
But a lot of women claim that the and I've
seen it firsthand that those type of relationships never end
in a relationship, but always ends in them being disappointed
or heartbroken. Like they were investing all this time and
then he never ended up wanting to make him the girlfriend,
and like you know, she went.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
She waited and waited and waited.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
A year passed, two years past, and they're in this
long term situationship and they just wasted two years of
their life with someone who doesn't have a plan on
really wanting to.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Be with that.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, you got to understand at some point you're just
some work.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, So how does a woman what I'm asking if.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
He ain't committed as not even know, we're not even
talking about marriage committed, that what we're saying.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I'm saying, Yeah, you just at what point though, should
a woman know?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Okay, I'm just some work?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Like is it three months like where they're you're doing
all of this and a man still just like, no,
I don't want to be in a relationship.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Y'all know where y'all work?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Y'all know, I don't know. That's what we're asking. A
lot of women were trying to get from a man.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Y'all spend it, like you said, y'all spend it every
day or every other day, every weekend together.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
How every much time y'all spending? You know, you some work?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
If he ain't ain't this girl you know, I mean,
I mean, I mean check this out after about like
let's see, after about ten sexual encounters with the men,
and it ain't no commitment. Okay, you work maybe less
than that. It depends on how long you're saying. A
couple of years. Damn No.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
People be doing that for situationships back and forth like
ten if y'all ain't together, then you some work.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's okay, that's what the woman want to know. Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Ten times of having sex with the same person. If
y'all ain't committed or or you don't see nothing else,
you work.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Period, period.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
And do you think that a woman has to ask
a man like what are we? Because there's also like,
in my opinion, I think as soon as you have
to ask a man that he not really you, not nothing,
because if he wanted you to be like man are
leaders and their hunters, and if they wanted you to
be yours, they would say that you.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Gotta be able to put a read on the guy,
Like you gotta look at the places he's taking you
to eat. You gotta see if he's holding your hand
in public or certain situations. Yeah, you gotta see like
when y'all out of the day, how he's sitting, how
close he's sitting, or how far he's sitting, or if
y'all in the cut. If y'all always in the cut,
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you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh, we have this
nice restaurant, but you in the back corner where nobody
can see you all the time. If you ain't getting me,
if you ain't seeing all this, oh you know tonight
this Friday night, Hey baby, let's go. Let's go, you know,
let's go to the game. You know, but you in
the cut at the game. You ain't front row. You
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ain't you know, if you let's go, you know you ain't.
You ain't being highlighted. You know what I'm saying. When
he highlighting you, then it's something or he like, let's
go to certain cities he's meeting you, like in Milwaukee
or Utah or something.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
He ain't taking to New York or LA. That you.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm crying, that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yes, And you ain't going to the big cities with him.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You're going to all the little You go to like
ten cities, but you're going to like Utah, Wyoming, You
going to like Nebraska. You gotta understand that you used
to work there. He take you everywhere Sacramento, he take
you everywhere these places.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Frunt Row at the Comedy Club in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Okay, I'm done. He's not Charlotte. Okay. So this is
my last question.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Who do you think is more valuable in a relationship,
a man or a woman who gives more?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Well, it's always gonna be the man, because the man
gonna always genuinely, genuinely love the woman for who she
is and what she gives to him physically, mentally, spiritually.
You know, I feel like most women give with men
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based on out of worldly things that he can do
and give to the woman.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So it has to be the man.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I mean obviously, like when you look at the relationships
and you like, damn, you know, the man is always
taught to be the provider, the caretaker, all of these
strong things, and you know women look for that. And
when a man ain't got that, you like, you know,
he got a perty good personality, but he can't take
care of me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So like women are always looking for the prize.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Not all women though, yeah, that's not all women. I
don't know a bunch of women who with men who
don't be having nothing and they just love them the.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Four fives and six, No, not the ones. They more evenly, you'll.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Be surprised, how many how many real bad bitches be
with like a broke man who they be taking care of,
who be driving their car. No, I'm telling you, I
personally know, Like you'll be surprised, like it's okay. So
they say broke men have great sex, way better sex
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than anyone, and you know they might not be lying
on that one And a lot of women they get
caught up, like I promise you, No, I don't know,
but let me tell you this. Though I wouldn't know,
I have an exact example. I know someone real bad,
beautiful girl bomb. She lives in a fly pent house,
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she's a boss, gets her own bread, real pretty, she's
like up there, she is having a relationship with the
maintenance man in the building, and she's falling in love
because she's having sex and women release a hormone when
they have sex. And now she's starting to fall in
love with the man and maybe he can move in
with me. And you don't how many bad bitches do that.
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You will be so surprised. They don't promote it, or
they'll make him look a certain way and present him
and give him the outfits and get him on.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
There's way more of that than you know.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
There might be more of that looks, but they fall
in love with him. They started as a sex relationship
and they fall in love with them. You think that
the person who came on at it don't even matter.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
There's a lot of women who have that situation.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
There's a lot of women who have that situation. I'm
just gonna say that right now, and they will take
care of a man all day several. There's a lot
of women like that, So I want to be very
clear that it's not just.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
What they hang at.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
They hang around I don't know, but those.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know why, A lot of women do that too.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Because a lot of women who are quote unquote bad
bitches and get all their bodies in why do you
think they got all their bodies in?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Low self esteem? What do you think women with low
self esteem do?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
They can get with a man who can make them
feel good because they're lower than them.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So I'm gonna put you on a pedestal. I'm gonna
make you feel good.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
A lot of women like that have gotten their heartbroken
from a celebrity man or an athlete or a rich man.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So they're like, you know what, my self esteem is too?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Low.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I'm gonna go get with a man who worships the
ground I walk on, who thinks I'm a boss. And
you don't know how many women do that. I mean
like I've seen thousands of women that look literally like
oh the picture proplic.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Ig model that have that as a man.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
And then a lot of people don't know that the
man is broken because they build him up and they
make him look a certain way and they give them
their card when they go to dinner, pay with my card, and.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Then when he shit on her, then where you go from.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's what happens. That's what happens most of the time.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
And you know that there's so much that happened, Like
if you look on the Shape Room, Oh, I was
helping you that Hazel E girl, I was she got
a man just like that, he was attractive, put him up,
did all this. Oh, then he shouted on her, and
she's like, I gave you everything. That happens all the time,
So please don't confuse that. Like there's a lot of
bad bitches quote unquote who do that, and a lot
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of them bad bitches have mental problems and low self
esteem and they're not mentally right, like that's just the truth.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And I and I've seen it. They're a little slow.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
And they just have these men that they get because
they want to be praised alone, period, So like, don't
ever get that twisted. They wish they could be a
lot of women with low self esteem can't even be
with a man of that caliber because to be with
a man who is rich, successful, handsome, tall, celebrities or whatever,
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you have to have a high level of self esteem
because you cannot sit there and be with that type
of man who gets all that attention every day and
you know wherever he goes he's getting women thrown at
him and have low self esteem.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You can't. You will be miserable every day.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Crying, stress, cracked out, Like you cannot live like that.
So you gonna get with a man who's you know,
not gonna do that, except he gonna end up doing
that on you when you boss him up anyways, But
it's not gonna be on the level that that man
could do it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Let the men do it all the time, So why
don't have no sympathy for that other these females.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Up that got shave. I don't go both ways because
more men do it than women.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
You'll be surprised thousands.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Of women than millions of men is doing that.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Okay, it's never a competition, but I'm just letting you
know that it's a lot of women who do that
and men do that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
For women to and both of them get shitted on.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
That's why the Bible says, get with someone you're equally
yoked with peer, point blank. And that doesn't mean financial.
People always think it means financial. It's a mental thing.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
You need to be with some one that's mentally on
that same level. Period. Anyways, Yeah, that was fast. Subtle
stuff is great.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Like you have a problem, you have a serious problem.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Like seriously, seriously. Anyways, thank you guys for joining Truth
after Dark. This was a great episode.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
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Speaker 2 (43:41):
Liked all that stuff, We love y'all. Peace.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
This is the taking over the game.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
All right, everybody, welcome to Truth after Dark.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Do you think that men or women are more toxic
That black love different.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That's not what she was saying the other day.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
You was.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You don't say that at all.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'm just saying I'm looking at the difference that black
love is different.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Mama's wasn't bad bitches, And that's what men are marrying.
Ruby Rose your boo that you was shooting your shot,
You wash your shot.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think the ones that I loved, I loved them.
I thought they both was the love of my life.
Have a man ever broke up with you? No, a
man has never broke up with you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Men don't break up women for real.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I ain't gonna lie. I cried over a girl.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That's good. You should be vulnerable, like dall.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I can't even leave this like them. Oh no, through it.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
They say broke men have great sex, way better sex
than anyone. And you know they might not be lying
on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
This is the taking over the game, all right?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Everybody, Welcome to Truth after Dark.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello,
beautiful people, welcome to another episode of the Truth after Dark.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm your host, Azar Faraday.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Paul pierced the Truth in the building once again.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nice, how are you feel?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I'm good man? You know Halloween is coming up. Yeah,
holiday season my favorite part of the year, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas,
all that rounding out the end of the year, finishing
off the birthday. Mom feeling good right now?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, I love that. I love that happy belated birthday.
So today we'll hop right in. So Gilbert Arenas was
on neon I guess some streamer named neon stream.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he said that basically, you
as a man, need a few little hoes to get
run through to get your confidence back.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And he basically referenced back page. I don't know if
you know what backpage is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Back Page was like, it's like.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Hos and he was like telling him, like you know
backpage and he was like huh because he's younger.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And then he's like, you know Instagram, it's the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
And he's like, you get a few holes run through
him and as a man, that's going to build your
confidence up.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Do you agree with that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm trying to figure out Bill Joe confidence.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Like maybe an ego, I think I kind of, I
don't know, get you something easy, so like now you're
feeling good about yourself, maybe.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Or yeah, I mean it gets you like a bad
one that you run through.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I guess so you can get your ego out.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
N I ain't going with that advice because then you're
gonna go over there you talking about pay and then
when you get into the real when you when you
gotta really kind of mouthfee something up that ain't gonna work.
You gotta go through the fire. You gotta get rejected
one hundred times. And listen, this is how you gotta
figure it out. You gotta swing for the fences. Say
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you swing. Say you go to a party and you
talk to the thirty girls. If five bite you good.
If you get five, If you get five to bite,
you get the number. At least that's get your confidence
going that you work within that five. Like that's all that,
Like all that back page Nah, that ain't that ain't
gearing you up for the real game.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Do you think Instagram is the new back page?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah? Probably so, right game?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah it is. Girls is really selling they up on Instagram? Yeah, yeah,
for sure. It is just the more enhanced herculean back page.
Like back page only only has so much, but.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Now you can get all types of women. Yeah, all
around the way.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Back page was local and it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Was like only it wasn't as bad.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Like now you can get all type of women, like
regular everyday women, this woman, that woman.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's a lot of options.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I had a homie that that that had a bad
I've never done back page, by the way, but he
was like kicking it in was kicking it. One day
he called up a back page right like yeah, because
the back page, I'm not even sure you you know
what they look like or is there photos on it
or I forget the little highest setup. Well, I know
it's I don't know if it was the phone book
or on the newspaper or what. But I remember she
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pulled up on them when we was playing Domino's and
I was like, he was like, yeah, that's the back page.
I was like, what, you could just call somebody over
there and they just come over. Yeah, yeah, you know,
one hundred dollars or something.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I could be scared, like you get set up about.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
One hundred dollars next to y'all, know you know they
you know they doing they what too? I was like, man,
let me get on up out of here. I was like, damn,
that's crazy. And now Instagram is the modern day prostitution.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I mean, in so.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Many words, it's just how you look at it and
how you go about it. Because when you look at girls,
just the way they promote theyselves and sell themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What are you saying? Yeah, pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But as far as like getting your confidence up, I'm
not sure. You got to get your confidence up by
going through the rough and then be like, all right,
I got over the hump, like all that. Now getting
out of a slump. I get it, you get out
of a slump. But getting your confidence it's two different things.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Do you think that men get with certain women just
to boost their confidence and be like, Okay, I can
get her to love me, like making someone feel like
making someone.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Fall in love with you.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You like, is that an ego boost for men? Because
there's a lot of men that hold onto relationships that
they don't really want.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
To be in.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Is that an ego boost by getting certain type of women?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, and you get them in a certain way too,
like have them like love you or be on you
or whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean men use it for ego boosts, But like,
I don't know, that's a difficult question for me. I'm
telling you like I ain't never really had no confidence
that you never really had no like get ego booster issues,
Like from the first time I was started talking to
girls and having girlfriends, like in my seventh eighth grade
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and you know, going to the dance with somebody. I
never really like was like afraid to approach your women
or needed my ego to be stroked from a woman.
So it's hard for me to like really get into that. Like,
but you see certain men and you see them with
certain women who are out of their league, I can tell.
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But then then as a man, you look at them like, damn,
you know, he probably breaking her off.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Some bread or yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
People lifestyle people are gonna assume that, you know so,
but you have to wonder sometime, like you're looking like
that with him. Okay, okay, you're doing your thing. I
ain't no hate. It's just like now I know he's
doing too much.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Though.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Well, a lot of women are just with men for
superficial reason.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah for sure, that same with me, and men are
with these women for super you know what. I just
want to, you know, get with her for this, you know,
just for the sexual pleasure.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And that's it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I really, you know, and then it just leads to like,
y'all don't really like each other.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Does a woman's love feel like fulfilling?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Does a woman's because I feel like women are extremely
emotional and like express it, you know, so like for
a man, is that an overwhelming feeling or is it like, Wow,
I feel fulfilled by this type of love.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I ain't no greater love than the love you gonna
get from. Like, I feel like the people closest to you,
and if that's your woman or if that's your brother, sister,
mama or auntie, you know, because I feel like the
best love I think comes from family because you can
never break up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, like relationships, you just break up.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I feel like this, this is what I feel.
People say that the love from your partner is stronger
than your family because if you are in a relationship
with someone, they're choosing to be with you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Your family is just your family.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It's stronger because it's gonna be somebody with every day,
You're gonna go through more things with them as an
adult that your family don't see. You're more ready, you're
more in tune with them, uh, mentally and spiritually because
you laying with them every single night. Uh, so the
love can grow to be greater. You know, you're not
talking to your mama every day like that, or your
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brother or sister a being like you are. Your partner. Yeah,
he was laying next to you, seeing your hearing your
deeper secrets and knowing like everything about you.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It is still like all right, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You because no one knows you like your partner. Your
partner's going to know you more than anybody.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And that's why it's more crushing when that break up.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, for sure, just like.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Damn the soul and gave her or gave him, you know,
as a woman everything. Yeah, you like damn, I just
you just feel like it went down the dreams. I
gave him my deeper secrets. And then with the society
we live in today and the culture we live in today,
it's even more heartbreaking because then women and men they
go out there and spill your tea when if it don't.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, and everything is incriminating now because if you're texting,
people are screenshotting, people are sending people like you don't
even want to be vulnerable on a text. You don't
want to be vulnerable, like because it's like, damn are
you recording?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's dream shouting? Are you doing anything?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And it's like you would hope you would be with
someone that wasn't that petty you know what I mean,
But you never really know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But yeah, that's tough. Now going into another topic.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Gucci Mane and Keisha kior So they were on the
Breakfast Club and they had an interview about his bipolar
and schizophrenia. So he's bipolar and he's schizophrenic, yes, Gucci.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Man Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
They were on there talking about his episodes and she
said that when he goes through an episode to they
actually now she helps him, meaning she'll take Twitter off
his phone, take all the social media apps off his phone,
like change his password to lead everything because she doesn't
want the public to see him having an episode.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And then she'll tell him like you're sick.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's what she said, like you're sick right now, You're it,
And he'll be like okay, and she said something and
he mentioned how when he would have episodes, he would
give away.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Things because Kanye West.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Kim recently on an interview said that Kanye West would
give away Lamborghini's and all types of stuff when he
had an episode, and Gucci said, he did the same thing,
and he said, and it was really foul because his
friends knew he was sick and they would take very
expensive jewelry, million dollars worth of jewelry and everything. And
he said, as soon as I got better and out
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of jail, he said, I cut all of those people
off because I'm like, you took advantage of me when
I was sick. And so his wife is a big
part of what helps him not have future episodes and
like got help for him and he's on meds, he said.
But the public in the audience is like kind of
bashing Kim Kardashian now because Kim dealt with the same
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thing with Kanye, but she was handling it very differently.
She said it was just too much for like she
can't deal with someone who's having these episodes.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
What do you feel about, Like, at what point.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Is that schoo man's girl, right?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
His wife?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
She is black, Yeah she's black.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
See that that black love different.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That's not what she was saying the other day was
you don't say that at all.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I'm just saying I'm looking at the difference that black
love is different, never not said, I have not said it,
but it is different.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I think black women are loyal to their man.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's what it is a thing to black men specifically, Well,
we gotta do the statistics.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They said that it's a statistic that you know.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I know that I don't know. It's not in front
of me.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
But like you know, I'm just saying black love is
different because you know of the poverish communities we come from,
and we've seen each other go through so much of
a struggle mentally. Uh, that is just like damn. You know,
you can be broken as a kid and as an
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adult with what the world puts you through, you know,
and when you got the real strong Black ladies. And
the reason the criticism is out now because it ain't
it's a different type of Black women now. It's like
old school black women are different. We could just say
that like are my mama and my mama's mamas and
like the old ladies that was just like home, making
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sure they're men and and working two or three jobs
and really putting.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Your mama's wasn't bad bitches, And that's what men are marrying,
like just keeping it real, Yo, Mama's wasn't that. They
was big arms cooking in the kitchen. Get shit right,
But men don't want to marry them. They don't want
to marry them type of women. Men have conditioned women
to believe they have to look like this, that, that, that,
and then their minds are fucked up. The more surgeries
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you get, the more things you got going, your mind
goes crazy and then you you you change.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Amas.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Suggest this to men out there, like dog, if you
a black dude and you got you a black woman
who got you know them arms?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
You know them arms? You know.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That photover at the elbow and they flap at the bottom.
Get that one that we're gonna know how to get
down in the kitchen. She got that high booty, you
know what I'm saying, and she gonna be wearing that
that that bonnet in the kitchens, cooking, cooking up. That's
the ones you need to get with them. Is the
ones ain't going nowhere. That's what I'm saying. They're gonna
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get damn for you.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
But then men, men will get with that type of woman,
and then those sheet with a woman they're sexually attracted
to because you can't be with a woman that you're
not sexually attracted to. As a man, you're gonna because
you're gonna have too much temptation to want what you want. Like,
there's no way you can't tell me men do that
all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That's gonna fade. Eventually, we talked about that. The sexual
attraction is gonna fade.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, let's move on the missile.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The myth attraction is gonna be forever. The mind is
always gonna be powerful because when you look at her
over there with them orangs like that and she and that,
because you're looking like, damn, that's my baby right there.
You know what I'm saying, This is crazy looking at her. Man,
she's blood, sweat, tears right there. And that's a more
powerful type of love than like, man, I ain't really
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attracted when I do all that and all because when
I see her doing all that and she's getting down,
that's attractive.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me go grab her up real quick. Come here, girl,
you know what I'm saying. Come here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, but when she starts to undress.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And what I'm looking through all of that, come here, girl,
you so you crack it. Give me here, get over here.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Seeing a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, so let's move on from that discussion.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Okay, So Ruby Rose your boo that she was your shot,
You was your shot publicly, yeah, Ruby Rose.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay. Ruby Rose says.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
She'd rather be alone and that women need to start
rewarding ain't shit man with babies. She got her own bread,
She don't need you and words, and she's cool. So
I'm confused. Do you feel like babies are reward to men?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What you mean a baby is a reward to a man?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Do you feel that way as a man? I'm really asking.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
It's rewarding if it's a baby that's had through love.
You know, when you have a kid through love, it's rewarding.
But when a baby coming it ain't through love. It's
just like damn messed up right here, you know what
I'm saying. So all that like, that's not a game
to play, you know what I'm saying. You don't want
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to play no games like oh, rewarding these dudes with babies.
I mean, I understand that there's men out here that's
trying to trap beautiful women, and there's women out here
trying to trap men too. Yeah, so it goes both ways. Yeah,
I don't look at it. It's just a one sided
deal because there's more women trying to trap than men
trying to trap.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, so women do be trying to trap. But what
I'm wondering is what are you trapping? Because it's like
you're gonna get a little bit of child support and
then you're gonna be stressed out and then I would
hate to have a baby with a man that I'm
not with, and then I have to have his seat
inside of me growing and I have to watch this
man possibly be with another woman or create a family
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out of love and I'm over here with this baby,
like I just can't.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It will blow me.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I would never be able to do that, and I
wouldn't want to bring my child into the world already
in a broken family. Like I feel like there's a
lot of women. I get it if you're like against
abortion or whatever, but I feel like there's a lot
of women who aren't against it, but they just want
to try to have a baby to hopefully get gained
something from it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I'm sorry to cut you off, no, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
No, But like a lot of times and some or
sometimes women be having be like you know, what, I'm
gonna have a baby.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
To try to keep them in.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I think I could keep them if I have it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I know where you.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Know, like your relationship ain't really as close as you
thought it was. But if I had a baby, at
least I'm gonna have and with men too. Men don't
have a kid with a lady thinking like, oh, I
got that for life.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You know I could get that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But you know what I will say about this really quick,
is the whole concept of keeping a man because you
have a baby is so skewed because even in a
healthy relationship, having a baby makes the relationship more difficult, even.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
If you guys love each other, even if you're healthy.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So imagine having a baby with somebody you're already on
the rocks with a baby is not gonna save your marriage.
A baby is not gonna save your relationship, but it
actually adds dynamics that make it much harder to deal with.
So unless you're ready and prepared to have that baby,
you guys are on the same page, and even then
it's hard imagine what's gonna happen. And if oh, I'm
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trying to keep this man, because we're in a bad place.
That's just gonna drive a bigger wedge in between y'all.
To be honest, I've never been supid enough to think that.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, I said that a lot that, Like, man, a
lot of times a kid be just it can go
one or two ways. It could grow you apart, or
it can glow closer. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
It's just the times that we live in because you
got to make the adjustment. Like when the kid comes,
there's an adjustment like all right, we ain't about to
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just lay here and let's get up and go to
Vegas or let's get up and go on a vacation.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now we got some other, some other a child to
care for.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, you know, and it's like you gotta really plan,
yeah for sure now, and that can get frustrated.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
For the man and the woman.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah for sure, plan sex, you gotta plan dates, you
gotta plan like just a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
There is So this is something that a lot of
men have said on podcasts or like, this is a
something I've heard so many times in my lifetime. They
say that men only have like one true love and
it's usually the one who got away, Like maybe they
hurt a woman, a woman, and like they messed up.
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She got away, and the rest of the people that
they're with they're just trying to recreate that experience, but
they don't truly love them, and they're always thinking about
that other woman that got away. Maybe they were young,
they lost her or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
How do you feel like.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh, that's a good one, that one true love? Which man,
don't I don't know. It's tough to really like really
like put a finger on that one, because I'm like,
when I look at the loves of my life, is
there one? Or is there two? Is there just the
one that I say got away? I think the ones
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that I loved, I loved them. I thought they both
was the love of my life, like especially because I
was with them so long. You know, so I don't
really agree, but like, there's only one true love of
your life. I don't know how she felt. I know
how I felt because I always think like this is it?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah? You know so I'm just like damn.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I never really look back and say, damn, I
was supposed to be you know what? You never know,
you know what, It's probably one girl off. I actually
felt like I probably should have been with but didn't
end up with and ended up with a different girl.
Like this was like this was like in college too.
This was like a real pivotal moment for me. Like
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I was kind of like dating both of them and
I had to make a decision, but I let them
make the decision, and I was thinking like, damn, maybe
I should have ended up with the other one, but
the one made the decision, and you know I couldn't.
I couldn't fight it, and we wind up being together
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for like, you know, six or seven years. Yeah, but uh,
nothing I really regret.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know. I think things happen.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And the crazy thing is, you know, even though I
ended I didn't end up being with either one of them,
you know, marriage, our kids or nothing with them. But
I remember thinking.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That, Yeah, I feel like for women.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
They said one that you think like you look back
and say I let him get away.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, everyone, I would never look at a man and
say he got away?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Are you kind of crazy?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Let me ask you, have you have you? Have you?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Have you ever have a man ever broke up with you? No,
a man has never broke up with you.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Men don't break up women, for real, I broke up
with somebody before. You said, you say this all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That men don't, I know, I say, normally men don't.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, girl, no, My relationships have always been the man
is doing foul ship.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm trying to make it work, make it work, give give,
give love, love love.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I'm exhausted at that point. Now I'm like, I don't
even want to be with you anymore. And I still try,
and then therapy and then finally I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Cool, Like, so you never nobody was like I'm good.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh no, no, no, yeahn for real, no, not no.
Men don't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, when you was eighty, he wasn't like I'm good.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
No, but I think that he did a lot of
fucked up ship to basically say you're good, but you
didn't say that. I mean, I feel like men break
up without work, Like they do stuff to make you
break up with them, and I feel like that's definitely
happened to me.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah for sure, then.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah yeah, but when they do it, then they're begging
to still be with you.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Like when a man like openly just disrespects you, yeah,
like he's like, I'm just like I don't care.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I'm opens the thing about what man, they like to
do that and then they're crying at your door, Like
what is it like?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Because you you you wanted to do this, Now you're crying.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
You can't because all of my exes and I can
stand all that hit me up for years.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You've seen a man cry? Yeah, your boyfriend?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, I seen a man cry and broke my heart.
It was the worst experience. I'll never forget it. I
remember the exact moment, and it wasn't It was some
bullshit because it's like I'm breaking I'm trying to leave you,
and now.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You're crying and you're the one that's foul. But it
made me stay with him because it fucked me up.
I was like, this is.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The I ain't gonna lie. I cried over girl.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's good. You should be vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I remember when we was breaking up. Man, it was
like this was like early two thousands. I was just
like I was playing that. I was playing all the
Usher and Mariah Carey breakup songs, and I was like
I was almost going through it. I was in the
house like damn, I can't an leave this, Like damn,
oh no, going through it.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I was like, damn, I was. I was going through.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It, like you know what, I feel like I technically
have been broken up with then yeah, but I feel
like every person that I've all my exes, they've always
doubled back and like tried to get back with me,
like seriously, like one of my exes that I had
to get a restraining order like for ten years, and
then another ex like well, like I have my exes.
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Most of my exes are blocked because they will hit
me WhatsApp, email me, love you please, like like seriously,
I'm not lying because I feel like they realize after
the fact, like damn, and by then I'm gone because
I put years of work.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
All my relationships are years long. They're not short, They're years.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You have you ever bumped into one of your ex
within the last couple of years?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I bumped into my ex.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
One time where I was on a date. Oh yeah, yeah,
I was on So this is the craziest story. I
was on a date with someone that I had just
like started talking to and we went to a ball
are and mind you, there was a girl at the
front of the bar checking this list of people. But
when she saw me, she was like hey, and she
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just let us in. So I'm like, I didn't think
it was a private event. The bar we went to
ended up being a private event for his and his
whole entire family was there and him and everything, and
we walk in. It was his cousin's event. We walk in,
it's his cousin's birthday. I look and I'm like, I'm
starting to trip out because I'm like, is this a dream?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
All of his family people, I'm a new day.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
We've been broken up for like a few years at
this point, and so we're so I walk in and
he's like, oh no, no, no, He's been blowing me
up always, and I like, have him blocked.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
He's texting, hitting what'sapp.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Email, what'sapp, blocked numbers, text me numbers, emails, calling people
like seriously for years. So then I see and he
had just recently started it back, like literally a few
week he started going hard again.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So I'm like, cause you have piped down for a minute.
So I'm in there. This man comes up his first
His family's like, azar, we wanted you guys back together
so bad. Oh my god, he showed up.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
They think I'm there because it's a private event. They
think I'm there. The girl happened to recognize me. And
then I'm at the bar with my little boo that
I'm with and he comes behind me to grab me
like this, and he's like, this is god. This can't
be a coincidence. I've been hitting you every day. I've
been on your line every day. I know this is fate.
I know we're supposed to be together.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It was okay, so hold on, he come up. Yeah,
what old boy doing the new day?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Nothing because it was too so no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
He was.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't it.
That was that though. It was like no, it was.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Like I'm good, I'm I'm leaving type shit, like I'm
I'm like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I was like all right.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
But then I kind of fucked up because I was
like I don't want to feel like this person is
controlling by like vibe to where I'm like walking and
running away from it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
So I was like, let me finish my drink, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But it just it wasn't a good situation. And it's
it's then they thought it was a setup.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I feel like that's disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
And I wasn't trying to because I didn't know this
was going to happen. But I'm like, at least us
finished the drink, Like, don't let these motherfuckers run us
up out of here like they anybody like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yo, listen, this is this is the thing. If you
out on the date.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't care if this is the first day and
you just met dude yesterday and your old flame come
and just grab you from behind, it's got to be
like something.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No, for sure, was that you think I'm just sitting there.
I was like move. I was like, uh uh, this
is crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Be like let's go, let's leave.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, you're right, and it was.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But I think that where I messed up was like
I was super anxietal and this wasn't my relationship yet
the person that I'm with. But you're right, and so
I think then the situation I just got weird and
I was like this is crazy because it's like all
the family everyone is staring me down. I'm like, this
is this is this is crazy. And the cousin is
like a famous rapper, so like they're in the music business.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Everyone's there. It's like photographs it's just a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I probably would have just played to the side, just
kind of see how you're gonna react. Yeah, I would
have just kind of just see how yo, I.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Think that's what it was going on.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Then I would have just been I would have just
kept it playing like that's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Saying, See what's going on over here?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Then? But no, it wasn't given like I'm over here,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, I'm just out here chilling.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It wasn't given. It was over here, like hey, what's up?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What's up? Is that your friend over there? Hey? You?
I would have doubled back to you like.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
But I wasn't disrespectful. I just was like, have an
anxiety about it. I can get overwhelmed. And I was
like this is crazy, like back up, you know what
I mean? Like, and then we left, we left, we left,
you know, okay, So moving on? Do you There's everyone
always says this, and there's a lot of men who
say this. Do men know very early on if they
(30:09):
will marry a woman or.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Be with her for a long time?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Like a lot of men will say like I knew
right away, or I'll know within a month, or I'll
know within a few months that like, this is someone
I'll be with or it's someone I won't be with.
Like we know very quickly. And if a man is
trying to act like he don't know, he lying. And
if he's like, oh, I don't want to be a
relationship after like a certain amount of time, he's not
really rocking with you. Because a man knows and if
(30:33):
he wants a woman, he's going to have her, and
he's not going to have her like single.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Don't they desperate?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Men know right away why they got to be desperate
because they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh yeah, you're gonna be my one first date.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
They're not saying first date. They're saying like.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
If a man desperate, I knew it. You ain't had
a man tell you that off the rip?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
And they were crazy ident message he was No, I
could tell what a man different, but it's a difference between.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
So listen, listen to this scenario. Listen to this scenario.
You're dating a man, not you know.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'm saying, like a woman is dating a man. A
woman is dating a man and they're getting to know
each other and all of this it's been months. Okay,
So she comes to this man and she's like, hey,
you know we've had we're having sex, I'm meeting family members,
We're doing everything, We're intertwining, we're with each other every day.
She asked a man, hey, like what are we doing?
(31:32):
You know, like I want to be intentional about dating
and I want to like if we're going to be
spending and investing this much time with you, like I
want us to be in a relationship, like what is this?
And he's like like, you know, I don't really like
I don't like the relationship title thing, Like I don't
want to really be in a relationship right now, you know,
(31:53):
whatever the case is, do you feel like cause he's
just not really rocking with her like that?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Basically, because.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
This is the debate they're saying, like if a man
is telling you like no, he don't want to be
in a relationship, it's the with you is silent, he
don't want to be with you.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I can see I can see where you he coming from,
because he could be his spirit could be broken to
where he's thinking about it, Like seriously, you could be
messing with a lady and it's kind of like you
got one foot in, one foot out, and then you
just be like when you try to put both feet
in through the door, you hesitating, kind of scared of
(32:33):
that because you didn't been through that before. So you
like and you're comfortable where it is right there right
in that like that that middle ground, you know what
I'm saying. So it might take some guys, and it
may take some girls a little longer to get over
that hump of putting both feet in the door. And
so I can see, you know, because you've been traumatized
when you when you overly committed, when you went all
(32:54):
the way in.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's fun. It's fun right now. I like where we at.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
And then you know, I like this speed right now,
I like the lane we in, but now you're trying
to jump into the carpool and all that, like hold.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
On, hold on.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
But a lot of women claim that the and I've
seen it firsthand that those type of relationships never end
in a relationship, but always ends in them being disappointed
or heartbroken. Like they were investing all this time and
then he never ended up wanting to make him the girlfriend,
and like you know, she went.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
She waited and waited and waited.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
A year passed, two years past, and they're in this
long term situationship and they just wasted two years of
their life with someone who doesn't have a plan on
really wanting to.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Be with that.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, you got to understand at some point you're just
some work.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, So how does a woman what I'm asking if.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
He ain't committed as not even know, we're not even
talking about marriage committed, that what we're saying.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I'm saying, Yeah, you just at what point though, should
a woman know?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Okay, I'm just some work?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Like is it three months like where they're you're doing
all of this and a man still just like, no,
I don't want to be in a relationship.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Y'all know where y'all work?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Y'all know, I don't know. That's what we're asking. A
lot of women were trying to get from a man.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Y'all spend it, like you said, y'all spend it every
day or every other day, every weekend together.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
How every much time y'all spending? You know, you some work?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
If he ain't ain't this girl you know, I mean,
I mean, I mean check this out after about like
let's see, after about ten sexual encounters with the men,
and it ain't no commitment. Okay, you work maybe less
than that. It depends on how long you're saying. A
couple of years. Damn No.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
People be doing that for situationships back and forth like
ten if y'all ain't together, then you some work.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's okay, that's what the woman want to know. Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Ten times of having sex with the same person. If
y'all ain't committed or or you don't see nothing else,
you work.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Period, period.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
And do you think that a woman has to ask
a man like what are we? Because there's also like,
in my opinion, I think as soon as you have
to ask a man that he not really you, not nothing,
because if he wanted you to be like man are
leaders and their hunters, and if they wanted you to
be yours, they would say that you.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Gotta be able to put a read on the guy,
Like you gotta look at the places he's taking you
to eat. You gotta see if he's holding your hand
in public or certain situations. Yeah, you gotta see like
when y'all out of the day, how he's sitting, how
close he's sitting, or how far he's sitting, or if
y'all in the cut. If y'all always in the cut,
(35:37):
you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh, we have this
nice restaurant, but you in the back corner where nobody
can see you all the time. If you ain't getting me,
if you ain't seeing all this, oh you know tonight
this Friday night, Hey baby, let's go. Let's go, you know,
let's go to the game. You know, but you in
the cut at the game. You ain't front row. You
(35:57):
ain't you know, if you let's go, you know you ain't.
You ain't being highlighted. You know what I'm saying. When
he highlighting you, then it's something or he like, let's
go to certain cities he's meeting you, like in Milwaukee
or Utah or something.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
He ain't taking to New York or LA. That you.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm crying, that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yes, And you ain't going to the big cities with him.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You're going to all the little You go to like
ten cities, but you're going to like Utah, Wyoming, You
going to like Nebraska. You gotta understand that you used
to work there. He take you everywhere Sacramento, he take
you everywhere these places.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Frunt Row at the Comedy Club in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Okay, I'm done. He's not Charlotte. Okay. So this is
my last question.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Who do you think is more valuable in a relationship,
a man or a woman who gives more?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Well, it's always gonna be the man, because the man
gonna always genuinely, genuinely love the woman for who she
is and what she gives to him physically, mentally, spiritually.
You know, I feel like most women give with men
(37:20):
based on out of worldly things that he can do
and give to the woman.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So it has to be the man.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I mean obviously, like when you look at the relationships
and you like, damn, you know, the man is always
taught to be the provider, the caretaker, all of these
strong things, and you know women look for that. And
when a man ain't got that, you like, you know,
he got a perty good personality, but he can't take
care of me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So like women are always looking for the prize.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Not all women though, yeah, that's not all women. I
don't know a bunch of women who with men who
don't be having nothing and they just love them the.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Four fives and six, No, not the ones. They more evenly, you'll.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Be surprised, how many how many real bad bitches be
with like a broke man who they be taking care of,
who be driving their car. No, I'm telling you, I
personally know, Like you'll be surprised, like it's okay. So
they say broke men have great sex, way better sex
(38:37):
than anyone, and you know they might not be lying
on that one And a lot of women they get
caught up, like I promise you, No, I don't know,
but let me tell you this. Though I wouldn't know,
I have an exact example. I know someone real bad,
beautiful girl bomb. She lives in a fly pent house,
(38:59):
she's a boss, gets her own bread, real pretty, she's
like up there, she is having a relationship with the
maintenance man in the building, and she's falling in love
because she's having sex and women release a hormone when
they have sex. And now she's starting to fall in
love with the man and maybe he can move in
with me. And you don't how many bad bitches do that.
(39:21):
You will be so surprised. They don't promote it, or
they'll make him look a certain way and present him
and give him the outfits and get him on.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
There's way more of that than you know.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
There might be more of that looks, but they fall
in love with him. They started as a sex relationship
and they fall in love with them. You think that
the person who came on at it don't even matter.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
There's a lot of women who have that situation.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
There's a lot of women who have that situation. I'm
just gonna say that right now, and they will take
care of a man all day several. There's a lot
of women like that, So I want to be very
clear that it's not just.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
What they hang at.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
They hang around I don't know, but those.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know why, A lot of women do that too.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Because a lot of women who are quote unquote bad
bitches and get all their bodies in why do you
think they got all their bodies in?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Low self esteem? What do you think women with low
self esteem do?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
They can get with a man who can make them
feel good because they're lower than them.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So I'm gonna put you on a pedestal. I'm gonna
make you feel good.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
A lot of women like that have gotten their heartbroken
from a celebrity man or an athlete or a rich man.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So they're like, you know what, my self esteem is too?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Low.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I'm gonna go get with a man who worships the
ground I walk on, who thinks I'm a boss. And
you don't know how many women do that. I mean
like I've seen thousands of women that look literally like
oh the picture proplic.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Ig model that have that as a man.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
And then a lot of people don't know that the
man is broken because they build him up and they
make him look a certain way and they give them
their card when they go to dinner, pay with my card, and.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Then when he shit on her, then where you go from.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's what happens. That's what happens most of the time.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
And you know that there's so much that happened, Like
if you look on the Shape Room, Oh, I was
helping you that Hazel E girl, I was she got
a man just like that, he was attractive, put him up,
did all this. Oh, then he shouted on her, and
she's like, I gave you everything. That happens all the time,
So please don't confuse that. Like there's a lot of
bad bitches quote unquote who do that, and a lot
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of them bad bitches have mental problems and low self
esteem and they're not mentally right, like that's just the truth.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And I and I've seen it. They're a little slow.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
And they just have these men that they get because
they want to be praised alone, period, So like, don't
ever get that twisted. They wish they could be a
lot of women with low self esteem can't even be
with a man of that caliber because to be with
a man who is rich, successful, handsome, tall, celebrities or whatever,
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you have to have a high level of self esteem
because you cannot sit there and be with that type
of man who gets all that attention every day and
you know wherever he goes he's getting women thrown at
him and have low self esteem.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You can't. You will be miserable every day.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Crying, stress, cracked out, Like you cannot live like that.
So you gonna get with a man who's you know,
not gonna do that, except he gonna end up doing
that on you when you boss him up anyways, But
it's not gonna be on the level that that man
could do it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Let the men do it all the time, So why
don't have no sympathy for that other these females.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Up that got shave. I don't go both ways because
more men do it than women.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
You'll be surprised thousands.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Of women than millions of men is doing that.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Okay, it's never a competition, but I'm just letting you
know that it's a lot of women who do that
and men do that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
For women to and both of them get shitted on.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
That's why the Bible says, get with someone you're equally
yoked with peer, point blank. And that doesn't mean financial.
People always think it means financial. It's a mental thing.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
You need to be with some one that's mentally on
that same level. Period. Anyways, Yeah, that was fast. Subtle
stuff is great.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Like you have a problem, you have a serious problem.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Like seriously, seriously. Anyways, thank you guys for joining Truth
after Dark. This was a great episode.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
It was a little shorter than usual, but we're gonna
have more episodes, more frequency, and more things coming extremely
soon for you guys. Make sure you subscribe, we tap in.
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Speaker 2 (43:41):
Liked all that stuff, We love y'all. Peace.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
This is the taking over the game.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
All right, everybody, welcome to Truth after Dark.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
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