Canelo v Crawford Radio Row Live Part 2: Dana White, Andre Ward, Roy Jones Jr. Join the Show!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us now is Fernando Vargas Junior and his dad, Fernando,
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Which one? Which you got?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Junior? You got Mabo? You got my brother's over here?
What's going on? Three boys here? And what the hell
we'll start? We will start with you dad. We got Canelo,
We got Crawford. We got a guy that's moving up
basically three weight classes. He only fault one fight at
fifty four, so basically he's jumping three weight classes, going
to Canelo, the big dog, the undisfewed one sixty eight
super middleweight undersfeutered king. What are your expectations of this fight?

(00:33):
And how does Crawford solve this puzzle?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I love both Crawford.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
We're very cordial with one another. We you know, we
have you know, whenever we see each other, we we hug.
He's a good dude, same way with Canelo. But there's
weak classes for a reason.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Everybody keep saying that there's weakness for a reason.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Then, And I'm not saying that he's not gonna have
success early, because I think he's gonna have.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
This success early.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
But this is thirty six minutes bustled, thirty six minutes
of a fight, of a world championship fight.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I don't know if he's gonna be able to keep
I don't know. That's what Tarboro. We just had Tarboro.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Tarboro says that he can't keep Canelo off him. It's
gonna be hard for him to beat him because Carnelo
were press him and he just said Tarboro. Antonio also
said the body shots. He said, the body takes a
lot of your conditioning, absolutely, and Canelo is gonna try
to work the body early. What if you were, let's

(01:38):
just say, for the sake of argument, you're fighting Canelo,
how would you go to try to solve that puzzle?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, look, us Mexicans are known for body shots. Yes,
we're we we we were born and they slap us
in the bush. And then then we had the doctor
who us Mexicans go to the body like with all
with killers. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it's just

(02:05):
like my own whole life.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
We know about those body trucks. Jovis, that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Company gonna killing people to the body and we're knock
him out.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I just feel that those body trucks are going to
be too much. Yeah, too much, man.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
You know, when I think about it Fernando question if
you're bug understanding their weight classes for a reason, Skills
pay the bills. Yeah, fighting styles make fights. Do you
think Bud has the type of fighting style? Not saying
that Floyd Mayweather. Does he have the type of fighting style,
the type of footwork, the type of offense and defense,

(02:43):
whereas defense can become his offense to be able to
survive at Tarvers thirty six.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Fight, I believe.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
So.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
You know he started the whole fight with Spence as
a South Paul.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes, so for a Southpaull for another.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
South Paul, it's like, oh okay, So look, I think
Crawford is one of the best fighters of our generation.
You know, skill wise, he could compete in any generation.
But I just feel, like my dad said, you know,
right on the money, I think the way it's going
to be a little too much in the later rounds.
I see Crawford having early success landing shots on Canelo,
maybe it being one sided, yes, and then I do

(03:17):
end up seeing Canelo, you know, picking him apart in
the later rounds.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Even if it's conditioning is on point, you still think
Canelo will be able to pick him apart in the
later rounds.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Look, Crawford, if he fights a perfect fight, he could
be a canelo OVAs he has the skills to be
able to, you know, get fighters frustrated. He had a
layoff though, I think he had like a year layoff. Yes,
you know that that plays a little factor as well.
So we're just gonna have to see what Crawford and
what Canelo we get Saturday.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, I look at Bud and you look at and
I say Canelo. Canelo probably walks around at one nine, easy,
drifts down. He got no next two.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
He's like this.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. As a matter of fact, y'all remind you.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
But we did a lot of exercises this camp too,
of that exercises that we needed and we're good to go.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
So and and I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm
looking at him. Is that he mentioned that? Uh Crawford
south Paul, but he got dynamite in his right hand.
He's a natural south but he can find orthodox very
few people. But has has Canelo fought anybody other than
Floyd that can put punches together like Crawford.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
I think I think Crawford he has that wild card,
he has that it factor. Where it's like, Okay, Crawford can't.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm gonna be real with you.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
When this fight first of all called off, I thought
it was like a like what Canelos too big?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Canelo all the way.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
As getting closer as Budd's physike is not like flabby
and you see him Bill, I'm like, hold on, hm,
Bud has everything to gain. I think there's more pressure on. Yes,
if he wins, it's like he was he Crawford's two
way classes. I mean, he was trying to achieve greatness.
But if Crawford wins, Crawford gets all the praise and

(05:09):
being the you know, all time great for the generation.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And I thought, I think Crawford because Crawford was having
the strip down to forty seven. Crawford probably walks around
naturally at eighty five ninety, So now he doesn't have
to come you drop that extra twenty pounds that he
would normally get to have to go to forty seven.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Now he can stop it at sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So how if you were to say, let's just say,
three months after fight, how much three four months after fight,
how much you think Bud weigh when he was fighting
at one forty seven?

Speaker 6 (05:42):
How much.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You think he weighed about sixty sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
You think that's that's I think Bud was bigger than that.
I think Bud hold on.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
But brothers don't put on as much walking around like
what you got you.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Got a swam cap, know, like no, no, your.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Topically we look at food and.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Canelo coming into Canelo might be one eighty five when
he when he refu Yeah guarantee, Oh absolutely, he gonna
be one night, easy, easy, for sure, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
So Fernando, Yes, it's Saturday, You're going up against Callum
wallsh I'm sure do you watch much film when when?
When you before before fight? Do you watch film on
boxes like we do when it comes to football. You
watch your opponents so you can get their tendencies, what
they like to do, see what you can find, pick about,
pick pick things that you might see that works on

(06:46):
on them when they fight other fighters.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you guys do that? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
You know he said he didn't do his due diligence
and watch film or tape that's on you. You know what
I mean. I have a legend father, where we took
this fight serious. I mean I've had over a two
much the camp I had way more time than needed
for this guy. Of course I study tape on him.
He's a great fighter. You know, he has the backing
of Freddie Roach. And when I do beat him, I
want my flowers, not because of Daddy, not because they've

(07:12):
been cherry picking this way. God made this moment for me,
and I'm going to show the world what I'm about.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So when you do watch film on a Calum w
wassh what challenges does he present when it comes to
fighting in the ring.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I got if they are If they are any, I
gotta be smart early.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
You know, he he has he has the power, and
I have the power to end things early. So I
know for the first couple of rounds, I got to
be in there, super smart, nice, tight guard. And without
going into much into my game plan, I just know
that Callum is not a better fighter than me. He
wants to talk about the experience and I find people
in Russia and that's that's amateurs. So you know, the

(07:49):
best of Cubans haven't converted as the best of Prosy.
And I'm extremely, extremely motivated for this fight. And uh,
the casinos have me as the your dog. I'm not
worried about it. Baby, you can never kind.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Of bargains out.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
And I'm just gonna show the world, you know, they
know White made a big mistake, bro yah.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Being a being a dad, of being a professional fighter yourself.
Is this the profession you wanted your kids to go?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (08:20):
No, he had a he had college paid for he
had he didn't want me to.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I would put these guys in Pop Warner basketball will
be one of the best corner each each of them.
If they didn't make three touchdowns a game, it wasn't
the game athletic basketball.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
He's a didn't play for him, but you know he's a.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Hooper and and I and I want to my kids
not to fight, none of them, but I'm ConA finding
the freaking baby says it's like this champion don't want
your kids know And he goes, Okay, who's gonna tell
your kids they can't be like their dad, because I'm
not gonna tell them.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Still, you know, my dad my dad, But to me,
you know, he's Superman man my dad. I don't know
if I could say it like this, but you know
my dad had the courage to fight anyone in any
given night. You don't see that with fighters no more.
Like win loser draw You knew that my dad was
coming to fight. He was either gonna fight you in
the weighans or win loser drawing. I mean, Barcas is

(09:22):
gonna give you a great fight. And that's what this
generation is missing, is putting putting your records on the
line and just giving fight fans great fights.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Why are the fighters in today's era scared to take chances?

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I think the Floyd generation kind of, you know, affected
us a little bit.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
You know, everybody wants to be Floyd, have Noid money.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Everybody wants Floyd money.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
But hey, pretty boy Floyd.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
That that guy was different, Diego Corrals, artro Gotti moving
up and way. I mean my dad was the Olympics
with him. So it's just it's a different time now.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Now we got the Jake Paul's and you know, you
got a que little left hook, you got an I smile.
Now now you're marketable, So it's just killers like my dad.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know, it's just very different. You know, you got
to really be a dog back back in my dad's.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Head to be champion the one fifty four pound division
of my dad's day Trinidad.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
As my dad that wiki fight. Come on, that went bought?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
That fight was okay?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, with you said something very interesting. You said the
under the O is that people have attached greatness to
the Oh yes, is that? Do we not? Because Sugar
Ray doesn't have an O? Is he not great?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Sugar is one of the best fighters in Sugar Ray Leander,
Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Leonard one of the best fighters that have ever did yep.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
But now guys like man, I don't want to if
you got a O and I gotta O, I ain't
trying to risk my O. Yeah, I want to keep
I would to keep my O intact.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I don't know what what you know as we're living
in you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
But you know when I when I when I was
champion Ship, I want to fight the best because I'm
the best.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
You know, Ship, have you fight world champions? You have
become us all my kids? Well, keep right quart how
are your custin?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And the Forum of Famers and the world champions that
beat me didn't walk away said it was easy because
I was in your ass too.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah. But it's like even if my dad's losses, I
tell me that all the time.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Dad, the Trinidad fight. You know how much you almost
courage you showed that night Oscar.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
You almost had him out of there early.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Like some of my dad's losses were his biggest wins.
And that's what Box is missing nowadays and we need
more of that.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, you will tell me that. People tell me that
your wins are like lost, your losses are like wins.
I go, really, go, why what do you mean? You
know you gave everything. Bro, you were in the fight too.
You're fucking these fools up too well. You know it happens.
I go, thank you, but you but you was willing
to fight. Oh, you was willing to fight.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
You don't dunk anybody, and guys that guys didn't duck.
It seems like now it's like, bro, y'all do the
best fight. I think that's why UFC has gotten so
much attention. DA ain't letting you dunk nobody.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
He's like, I'm putting up the money.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
I got Turkey, I got my man Turkey.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Like y'all gotta fight fight.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, that's that's what we want to see. We shouldn't
have to go years that will fight create buzz like
this one is created care. You used to have this
all we have two or three of either year. You
gotta go to three years before you have a fight.
That man, people talk about.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
That's just the times we're living in social media time.
I didn't know who the l Jack Paul was until
on social media. Hundred million follow I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
You were popping before was space.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
But what I'm saying like social wasn't even out, and
it was just it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
It was different than wanting to ask you this, how
different with it that being if you had social media,
if you had the Internet, you had I G. You
had TikTok, you had.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
And then and then and then people tell me that
this you were huge in those times and you didn't
even have social media.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
People remember me.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Still to this day and I have social media back then.
But guess what now it's the social media era, and
which is great. You know, it gets people an opportunity
to make more money. If if they got that that
following yeah, this.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Fight, did they go to distance somebody getting somebody, somebody,
somebody to touch the campus?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think that See everybody thinks that Junior is the
facade we have.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
We we fighters that we need to fight to build
our records but guess what the last fight that he
fought against, I guess the.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Korea is his career Mongia and he knocked them out.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Now, like I said, Junior here as a little kid,
and to this day they think it's a facide. But
guess what, this is gonna be his coming up party
and everybody's gonna be like, Junior is.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
A real deal.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
But this fight is praising my power, praising his power.
I'm gonna show like a box, like a CounterPunch, Like
it's not just power in there.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Like, I want to show that I'm a complete fighter.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
And when they say one fifty four pound division like
after this, of course, I'm not overlooking Callum, but my
eyes are on Fundora, My eyes are on Virgil. My
eyes those are the fights that excite me.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I want that.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
I want glory for myself. Yeah, you know, look, I
mean if not, why would I be in this sport?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Right?

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Does Dad give me fights? Nah?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm in here and I really want to be taken serious,
you know, And I want to show that this junior
could compete with the highest level. I like it.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
How difficult was it to coach knowing what you accomplished?
How difficult was it to coach your kid?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
It wasn't It wasn't difficult because that's a lot of pressure,
you the world champions. No, no, no, it was difficult.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Like I became a I'm up gonna be honest with you, guys.
I became a trainer because of a Milano, my third son.
He one day we're I took him to some amateur
fights and he was just sumb found its.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Pappy. You can say this with daddy. I want to
do that. I want to do that. You don't want
to do it. You don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And then I go then I go there now, and
then I go, okay, if you tell me after school
to take you to the boxing ger, I'll take you
to the boxing gym.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I picked him up. The first thing that came out
of his mouth was like they took him to the
boxing gym. What I'm gonna tell him?

Speaker 5 (15:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
And so I became a trainer.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
And you looking at Minano, killer just like his daddy,
you know, killer, just like his daddy.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
I'm out to say that you're not gonna be no
be ain't gonna be no good if you're not daddy
that Roger Bayweather.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I got my dad right there to the top, to
the top to the like I like it.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I like it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
People, man, my brother bargains, thank you, ju thank you
so much.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Don't forget that, Junr.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
When they when I said this, where people go Fernando,
motherfucking don't forget the motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Fernando.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Both Yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh man, it's been amazing. Man, it's uh to see.
You know, I haven't been around a whole you know,
a whole lot of fighters in this type of environment. Obviously,
you know, I met a few guys and and but
just sit here and to hear them talk about how
they think this fight is gonna break down, I guess
you know we do.

Speaker 8 (16:58):
We do.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
We talk about we talked about talk about football, and
we talk about how this thing. We think this thing's
gonna play out because we look at the offense, we
look at the defense, we look at the skill sets
of both sides, like, Okay, we think it's gonna be
like this. But to hear them, you know, ay, even
Bud might come out and take the rounds early, but
can't he sustain it at that weight in the later rounds?

(17:19):
Knowing that Canelo's gonna take the middle of the rounds
of X, Y and Z. So it's interesting to see
how this this cat and mouse game, how this thing
actually is gonna play out.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
If you look at the routine and the way Canelo fights,
he always starts slow.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
He always starts slow.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
He doesn't he doesn't start pressing you until maybe round three,
four five, and he puts that pressure on them for
some reason.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And he does it every fight.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
He takes off rounds six, seven, and eight and then
pours it back on for the remainders.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Of the fight.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
He does the same thing every fight, regardless of who
he's fighting. So I think Bud has a good chance
to take an early lead on the scorecard in the
early rounds.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
But boy, once once.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Canelo turns it up and start coming forward, it's a
different ball game.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
It's gonna be very interesting. Budd says he's ready. Yeah,
he's taking the time and put the weight on. This
was not a rough job. And like I said, he
doesn't have to strip down, he doesn't have to take
meat off the bone in order for him to make
that one forty seven. Because as we get older, it's
hard and harder to keep that weight down bad. Please
just get it on for you, I mean, especially what

(18:25):
you you put it on. And like I said, we
were talking about Floyd, but Florida is a smaller man,
and so Floyd is not a It's not one hundred
and seventy pound man. Florida is not one hundred and
sixty pound man. Florida is about one hundred and fifty
to one hundred and fifty five pound man. So you're
asking him to take two to five pounds off.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And be at weight.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
So when he comes in, and when he comes in,
I bet when Floyd would refuse. Floyd probably weighed one
fifty and a half. So that's why it was nothing
for him. He's like, man, I gotta get to go
to one fifty four. Well, hell, he walk around at
one fifty five. All he had to do was drop
a half of poule. That's it. So he doesn't have
to do this crazy stuff and take all that weight

(19:03):
off him and do all this crazy stuff. He doesn't
have to do that. Look, I think Bud, you know,
Vargus Junior said he think Bud would walk around at
seventy five. I think Budd probably walks around in eighty five,
but Canelo definitely walks around at two hundred two hundred,
big boy. Yes, he was telling us that besical typt
a bad y'all. Y'all don't gain no weight. I look

(19:25):
at food. It makes good fighters gain weight. So it's
gonna be It's gonna be very interesting to see. I'm excited,
Loan or will we notice the conditioning factor because at
some point in time, I mean, you know, and like
we said on Joe, sparring is one thing. Training camp
is one thing. But now you're fighting in there with

(19:45):
a guy that's really trying to take your hair head off,
because when you spar you got headgear.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Different ball game.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's a whole different ball game. So I'm anxious to
see this thing, how this thing really shapes out. Oh yeah,
what you're thinking.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm pull up a Bud. I'm pulling for it.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I understand the sweet science though, I understand there are
weight classes for a reason. But I'm pulling for Bud
to see men himself in history and do something that
not many have done. The willingness to take a chance
and making history is commendable.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
It is.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I can't wait, I'm excited. I hope he excuses game plan.
I hope he does.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm I'm I'm pulling for him. And sometimes with your look,
you can execute perfect and still not be perfect. It
might not be enough.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
You're perfect, might not that night, especially with them damn
judges out here.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
But don't get me started.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'm judged out here in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I think, what do you call him? I think, uh,
can Bud clipping? Can Bud? Can can? Can Bud hurt.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Canelo clipping hurt him?

Speaker 1 (21:01):
M he wasn't even hurt with Triple G. I think
because he wasn't hurt Withal. You remember the movie Predator, Yeah,
Arnist Swarts when arnistwar Arnold character, Yeah, the Predator, and
he saw that he saw that green stuff on the leaves.
He said, if he'll bleed, we can kill it. Yeah.
I remember that part.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Remember that part.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
I remember that part.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's the moment, the one from Rocky Yeah, Jon Webers,
And that's the thing. Bud's gonna have to be able
to hurt him to see that he can be he
can do it.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, anything to add a little bit more confidence.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Because it's gonna it's hard to uh to a guy
that size, and I don't. Look, Bud is like, the
fight's gonna play out. Hgh, it's gonna play out, But
I don't. It's hard for me to see a scenario
where Budd thinks he could out point him. It's gonna
be difficult.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I've seen one person out point out point Canelo, and
that was Mayweather.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
But that would even close that.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, when you forought Bravall, that was overpowering strength. Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah,
we're just overpowered you. You're fighting a bigger man, You're
fighting a more powerful man.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
So that's why it looked like so we're overwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
If but Ball is going to the ring at once
said if fire, Hell, he weighed two team two fifteen.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Probably won coming down from two to fifteen probably.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Uh. But at the end of the day, that's what
it comes down. It comes down to. Look, we know
Bud is scaled, we know Bud will fight, Bud will
not retreat, and basically in order for him to if
he feels that he's not gonna run, that's not in
his DNA. But you gotta be smart.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yes, it's not a time for ego, it's not a
time for pride. It's about IQ ring, IQ, being smart,
engaging when necessary, setting traps, doing whatever you need to
do to fight smart, to win that fight by decision or.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Everybody got a punch a chance.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I don't think you can get him out of
there with one punch, but I think he can put
punches together.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
No, no, no, And it has to be something he
doesn't even realize it's coming.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, And that's the thing that's what makes Bud dangerous.
It's been Bud Bud as a natural lefty, but he
has power in the right and so he can fight
out of the south fass stands. He can orthodot ye
And it's gonna be very very interesting to see this
that Jim, you know, Jim said this, this would be
holy Field Tysons. Yeah, because you got two accomplished guys,

(23:38):
very accomplished. Leon Spinks when he beat Muhammad Ali, Spinks
wasn't accomplished. Now, he wasn't Olympic gold medalist. He wasn't
the seventy He and his brother along with Sugar Ray
and I think Davis wasn't a gold medal in seventy
six in Montreal. Uh, And so he hadn't had a
whole lot of fights when he beat Muhammad Aldi, So

(24:00):
he wasn't accomplished. He wasn't a champion boxer like Canelo.
He wasn't a champion boxer like a Bud. Budd is
a two in the four butt era. He's the only
he's the first man to be undisputed in two weight classes.
And we know what Cannelo is. He's the undisputed super middleweight.
So we got two very accomplished fighters, but we got

(24:21):
a guy that moved up basically three weight classes. And
if he weren't to beat it, you.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Heard Tarver say, he's immediately calling him the ghat. No
matter what you.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Would have to I think it would be bigger than
holy Field Tyson for the simple fact holy Field didn't
move up. Holy Field was already fighting at the heavyweight division.
He had already fought ready both He had already fought
George Foreman, he had already fought guys at that heavy
Michael Moore, So he had already fought guys at that point.

(24:51):
Where got his first fight at one sixty eight? It's
against Canelo, is that boy?

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
He jumped, he pulled, vaulted one sixty.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
He stopped at one sixty, right, he went to sixty
eight and basically just had one fight at fifty four
when he fought the best of his career at forty
seven or below. So this would be this would be huge,
This would be huge. And you know Roy Beanie Ruiz

(25:23):
I remember it. Yeah, but nobody thought Ruis as a
great heavy wall.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
It wasn't as decorated aither. No, but the fact that
Rud was able to go up to heavyweight and do it. Yeah,
And that's a guess.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Styles made fights.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yes, Roy had the style and the skills to be
able to go to heavyweight and do just that, right.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And the thing is is that Roy had to gain weight. Roy,
I mean Roy was fighting at sixty eight, so you know,
to go up to make one ninety three that Roy
probably walks around probably walking around it probably.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Was eighty yeah back then.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, supremely skilled. I mean Roy had elite defense. Roy
had skilled. Roy had that that left as his hands. Yeah, man, body,
I mean Roy could do it all. Roy, Roy literally
could do it all. He had Mayweather skills, he had

(26:15):
elite defense, and he had power.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Crazy power.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
What's up to five? You skinny? Whether you shut that
when you hugged behind. But these hands here, man want.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right there, right there, you're nervous. Handed you handed?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, Chace, he nervous. It ain't enough. I don't mean nothing.
Rake Ward joined the show.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
D it's been a long time since we had this
kind of buzz about a fire. Yeah, we we we
got buzz. We got a guy that's basically pulled all
the three weight classes to take on the Ultimate Challenge.
And I don't don't think we have enough of those
guys willing to take that challenge. Come on, come on, yeah, yeah,
come on right well no, yeah, so so man, you're good. Yeah,

(27:11):
you looking like you got to help his shit.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I said, that's that basketball man that ain't boxing. That
basketball is.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I just told it's been a while, Roy since we
had a fight that generate this kind of buzz. We
got a guy that basically polled at the three way classes.
He had one fight at fifty four, he polled aart
to sixty. He landed at sixty eight to fight the
take the Ultimate Challenge. And I was telling Drake, I
don't think we got enough of guys in this sport
that's willing to take the challenge because everybody wants to

(27:43):
keep this. They want to keep stay perfect, and everybody
wants to be Floyd Mayweather. I said, even if you're
in your career and you ain't got no losses, people
are not gonna look at you like they look at
Floyd maywellm So stop trying to be Floyd and take
on challenges like in the eighties when or Horsemen the
seven is the heavyweight. Fault everybody you didn't dunk, nobody

(28:04):
hag little fault heard in the heavyweight. I'll leave fought
for him and forman fault. JN.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Go ahead and take that Roy, take that one. Take
what he said. What he's saying, he's saying a lot.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
No what he's saying though, he's saying that what he's
saying about your boy, which one saying, ain't picking on
me to day.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
Waiting that What he said is people.

Speaker 10 (28:33):
Don't care enough no more about being the goat or
being the best.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
You gotta think about it. Well, when you played football,
you didn't want no other top nights.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Wibe.

Speaker 10 (28:43):
See on the other side, you didn't want nobody else
top notchers and your your team in your position, you
want to be the man at that right when I
thought I didn't want nobody close to what I was
doing because I wanted to be the man. If I
thought somebody was away casts up or three way casts up,
I got to go see him.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I can't sleep him.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
I don't go to see him.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I'm not there though, But this is where we come from,
this time, this is our time.

Speaker 10 (29:05):
We can't sleep at night if they think he can
whoop me, and he couldn't sleep at night if they
thought like I could whoop him. Understand, it's just not
what a champion truly is built out of. You know,
when I see Tarboro or that there, he just leve him.
He know, deep out of my hut.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
He's still feeling way fighting in town right here.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I love to death.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
He's free. I love good people. But if they pay
me the right money, we gotta go. You feel me, Yeah,
I'm so sorry, but that's just how it goes. Boxing
has lost that.

Speaker 10 (29:36):
Because boxing has lost that, it's giving people an opportunity
to come in like Jake Paul steal the steam. Because
don't get make no mistake about it. The old man
told me this one time. Two mules are a great race,
meaning that if you got a race horse out there
that won't race another race horse. He gonna blow all
the mules up. Don't nobody want to see that. But
when you put that mule like that with another mule,

(29:57):
you finla get a good damn race. Wo that's what
boxing happened in it's time. We ain't got too mused.
We got two race boars, says two though friends that
about to get This is what the sport that's been missing.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Nobody I had to go out with up to hip
what make happen right?

Speaker 10 (30:12):
Because I couldn't get nobody in my r around my
time at my week classes to create that this happens.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
They wanted you to go across the water fight cause.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
He wasn't doing.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, I wasn't doing that. What am I gonna take
all my stuff? I'm the man used to come over
here while I'm going the great money come?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
He said no.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
So let's tell me.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Y'all must say something. Y'all got want me to come
over there. Y'all gotta plan for me. I remember what
happened to me in eighty eight happen again.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Hey, go ahead. You understand the game of boxing a
little bit. You understand the.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Sweet science better than anybody that's gonna be watching.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
What does Bud need to do to win this fight?
What type of fight does he need to fight to
win this That's.

Speaker 9 (31:02):
Not an easy answer. So what I'm saying is he
got to do a lot of things right. So he
got to answer the strength question. When we bumped for
the first time, and we bumped shoulders and we clinch
each other, am I gonna be able to get my
respect there? Because if not, it's gonna be a hard
night when I punch. When when Terrence starts getting off offensively,

(31:24):
it's Canelo laughing? Or can he Does he feel something
at least enough where you got respectable power where I
can't get crazy and get reckless with you. When Canelo
hits Terrence for the first time, what's the response gonna be.
We got a lot more questions than we got answers
leading into this fight, and that's how you know it's
a great fight. If I looked at the landscape and

(31:45):
I said, man, from one fifty four to one sixty eight,
who's a name that could give Terres Crawford a run
for his money and potentially beat him?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
It would be at Canelo Alvarez, right, he at the
top of the list.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
But if I said, what's the smaller dude that can
come up to really three way classes since Fardero Spence
and challenge Canelo Alvarez, it would be Terrence Crawford. If
any smaller fighter can do it, it's him. And it
ain't just Terrence's physical ability or who he fought.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is this and it's this.

Speaker 9 (32:13):
It's the stuff you can't see. I gotta wins, win
or die for me. I can't fathom losing against you
and having to live with that for the rest of
my That's the type of stuff that will make you
figure it out. So on one hand, you gotta lean
toward Crawford from the standpoint I think he's gonna find
a way to figure it out, right, But then you
got all the physical advantages and the skill set and
the power of Canelo Alvarez.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
You we talked about this. You moved up from sixty
eight to go to one night to go heavyweight heavy
to fight Ruiz. You weigh one ninety three that at
the way in our twenty five pounds you put on
to go fight Ruiz. But Bud and I was talking
to Bargains Senior, and I was talking to somewhere else
a kayler plant. I say, Canelo, if he's stripping down

(32:59):
to go to one figure, Canello walking around it wasn't
notinety by maybe even two hundred because you Mexican carried
it weight. So and I said, Bud, Bud probably walking around,
Bud probably walking around with to go down to four
what I'm saying, So now he gets to stop at
sixty eight. But thinking Rob cardio, moving Rob's cardio, punching

(33:23):
Rob's cardio.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Can he do for thirty six minutes?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Can he stay mentally sharped, mentally focus, locked in and
put punches together to keep Vanelo off off it?

Speaker 10 (33:33):
Like Dre said, if he can shock him enough to
make him pay attention to Nick, that would keep anybody.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
That's how Floyd did it. Yeah, Floyd shocked him earlier and.

Speaker 10 (33:42):
Kept got the respect right and kept eyeing outside of
the bit. If Bud can do that, then Canelo would
be in for a long light. If Bud can't do that,
then Budd is in for a long light. But like
he said, the only person that can beat both of
them right now and in this situation would be each other.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Whoever can come out and get there is big early,
it's gonna win the fuck.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
Whoever come out and take over that first and second round,
it's gonna win the fuck because if.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Bud on her put Canelo in that box, gonna be
a problem left.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, let me let me.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Let me say this about about budd Man.

Speaker 9 (34:20):
He for him to be successful in this fight and
win this fight, he gotta control himself so that I'm
gonna show you that alpha male, I'm always coming out
on top. You gotta you gotta reserve that until the
right time. So, in other words, you ain't gotta be
stronger than Canelo. You just gotta be strong enough. You
ain't gotta hit harder than Canelo. You just gotta hit

(34:41):
harder enough. And that's the discipline of saying, Okay, you
might not respect my power like you with a regular
sixty eight pounder, but you respect it enough. And he's
gotta stay within that. And I think the fight really
gonna start from the seventh round.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
On Oh okay, the first six rounds, it could be
for to Canelo. Going into seven, it could be for
two Bud, could be three, three. That's when we're gonna.

Speaker 9 (35:02):
Tap into conditioning. That's when we're gonna see how the
weight is affecting Bud. That's when we're gonna see. Is
Canelo gonna fade like we typically see him fad Yes,
from the seventh round on, that's when this fight gonna start.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Because when you go back, you look at Canelo. The
only guy that he's ever fought that could put punches
together beat it, that's Mayweather. He's never fought anybody else
that can put punches together.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Like Lindy Laura, and that was that could have win
either way.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
So if if if Bud you said something being interested,
you said, ego, but don't get reckless. You can be
an alpha reckless with it. Because you get reckless with it,
you're walking this up. And then he turned the lights
out of the place, yourself wide open. So the question is,
can Bud put two three, four punches together like that
got Canelo like, hold on, damn, I could just walk
up here. Hey they Hey, they not horned, but the

(35:48):
yellow jackets hurt.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
He's gonna have to, Bud gonna have to. They're gonna
have to put it together early in spots, early on
ones and twos. That second third round in our twos
and threes got to test you out. Once we get
on that back half, now'all can stay there a little
bit longer.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yatt, yat, yat.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
See how you're doing.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's a progression, it's not all at.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
One time trying to fit down on everything.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Of course, try to get you up out of the
supposed to be. He's a bigger man. If you don't
coming up with that.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Line set, you lost already.

Speaker 9 (36:21):
But the thing we're not talking about with Canelo's Canelo
can box two ye defense. I called Canelo and Crawford
punch of boxes, not box of punches, meaning they really
want to.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Get to it. They can box, but they really don't
like to.

Speaker 9 (36:36):
If you see Canelo moving around the ring, if you
see Terrence moving around the ring, it's either the rest
for a second or the reset. So they could do
what they really want to do, which is get that
shot in that's gonna change the course of the fight.
They punch your boxers. So I got to see that
on display. I want to see who's gonna control that.
But Canelo can box, he just don't have to and
he don't really like to.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
But he can box.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
He has the problem though you know both of them,
you know brought them it has been a lot of
time with Turk. You know, Turk paid both of them.
You know, Turk told him he don't.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Want no decision. I don't think they listening to that, huh.

Speaker 9 (37:11):
I don't think they listening today, all right, because they
gonna get They're gonna get paid regardless.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
All but he told him you don't want to yet,
you got a Turkey dot in the ring. I'm just
say anybody, everybody goes into the fight with a game plan.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I understand that you got to execute that game plan
and make adjustments round by round.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
That's good to sell the problem. That's good to sell
the fight. It sounds good, were talking about it.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
The problem.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
It ain't gonna have no barons on this fight. Got
a problem though.

Speaker 10 (37:34):
If you go in there and let Canelo get that
real estate going this with early, you are lost. If
you go in the Canalo let Bud get that real
estate early, you already lost. So what Turk wants is inevitable.
It's basically he wants right now Tonight said Night's inevitable
because Bud can't give up room, and neither can't Canelo.
Whoever give up that.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Real state lose that fight.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, just what I think gonna. It's gonna force you
to fight no matter what.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
So what he wants is inevitable. We got a guy
in Budd. It's very few Bud, It's a South Paul,
but boy he got power in that Orthodox both very few,
very few finals got can it can turn the lights
out of the building with either hand. We saw him
start with Spence, he's foul Paul, and then all of
a sudden he switch up like Smith left, Hello, who

(38:23):
is the mother guy in the ring? Fight? Got hit
me when he left? And now they gotta not to
tell me what the ring?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Which one do y'all?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Hit me? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Which one?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Could that be a problem for Canelo? Let me take it?

Speaker 10 (38:39):
Could have been a problem until in came Boots Innis,
who also does that.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
You could take?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Now that's why he had him in camp that had.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah Boots, Boots fight Unorthodox and South really good.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yes, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I thought he was just getting ready for taking it dances.
I thought he was getting ready for his fight. He was,
but but he was helping Canelo to.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
The mere fact. First of all, he understands what what
Buddy in the four better earrow. He's the first man
to be undisfeuded in two weight classes. So you know,
first of all, it's a boxing match. That man got
an unblimous record. You got an unblimous record.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
So you know the fact.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
But Dannelo also understands this could this is people say,
well as accomplished, you get accomplished like Canelo under super middleweight.
We got a guy who's been undifuted in two weight classes.
Now we could say Buster Douglas when he beat u
uh Mike Tyson, but Buster Douglas was not as accomplished

(39:54):
as a Canelo or Crawford Leon speaks when he beat
Muhammad Ali, he was not as accomplished. If we so
this right here with Bud, we do. I don't know,
Roy dre y'all been around the sport. You did this sport,
your world champion. I don't know how high this go
if Bud were to do this, but it's gotta.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Be pretty damn here up there. Would that not take
him the greatest of all time, of all time? We can't.
We can't say that we can't the greatest of all time.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
If he goes out there and beats Canelo at one
six eight going up to weight classes.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Listen, man, that is a great seat he up there. Yeah,
of all time. Okay, I don't even think Bud.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Would say that.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, we're.

Speaker 9 (40:39):
Talking past Robinson, we're talking past our lead. Okay, you're right,
you gotta be careful with that, right I'm speaking of.
I'm speaking of the essence of the time. We're now
where we can't even get fighters this here here we talking.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
We can't even get.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Here already, we can't we can't even get our best
fighters to fight each other right now, and we got
Bud taking a chance.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I wonder why going up feeling a way about that?
About that? Let me let me go back. But now
it ain't just it ain't just the odo.

Speaker 9 (41:11):
Let me let me go back to the conversation about
why the fight's not happening. If you got a big
enough fan base, you got a big enough social following,
why would I risk And I'm saying this is what
I believe the youngsters are thinking, why would I risk
my health and my reputation? Because really, the reputation, I
think they're thinking about that more than they thinking about
their health. As long as my fan base feels like

(41:32):
I'm him. Why would I have to risk proving that
I'm him?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Wait, the fan base ain't cutting the chat.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
I got you, but some of them still getting the
money with I'm fake facing top competition. So let me
tell you how the youngsters thinking. They looking at the
old heads now saying, y'all was stupid. You fought you
fought him, You fought him for that. They looking at
facing tough challenges like they laughing at it, like dude,
I got this to face him. The whole dynamic is changed,

(41:59):
a whole PARADIWM ship. As long as my fan base
says I'm the guy and I can walk around like
the guy and feel like the guy, that's enough for me.
All that proven to be great and legacy stuff. Ain't
nobody trying to hear all that. That's what that's rather
we like it or not. That's how they think.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I believe. I believe one hundred percent what you say.
But when it's done and them people don't give them credit,
they wonder why, they wonder why they still hold Sugar
Ray Leonard and these great fighters and de Roy Jones
and all these other fighters in high regard because they
fought everybody. You go back and look at the age
when they had the poor horsemen, the philth Horsman, When
I ran Barkley, they fought everybody. You go back and

(42:36):
look at the seventy then the heavyweight division. Nobody, don't nobody. Now, Bro,
you undefeated. It's like if I go to a I'm
going to a game, tickets for sale. I want to
buy tickets with by the ticket here, sell them. Yeah,
you undefeated? You you want to fight the man undefeated.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
With don't fight the game different, it's a different you
know what, even though it's a different game right now,
right and and Drake, I think with Turkey being into
the game now, I think more fighters that are really good,
that have those zeros that had the skill set make
it because I'm willing to take the risk for the
reward that he pays.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
To big reward.

Speaker 9 (43:14):
And I do appreciate that about Turkey. You could say
what you want to say, he's paying them. Yes, it's
so many times fighters had high risk, low reward. You
look at the money, it's like y'all chopping that up
five different ways. This is this is what he brought
home after y'all got y'all money and he fought a
twelve round back that man in the hospital.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Right now, that's what y'all give me, fifteen to twelve.

Speaker 9 (43:38):
It's different now, So I appreciate that man saying, look,
I want the best fights, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Pay you because of it. That's all we ask it.
That's all get your money because it is prize fighting.
It's not pride fighting. Ye, my babies can't eat legacy.
The legacy is for me in my name.

Speaker 9 (43:56):
I can't live with myself unless I knew I didn't
tested the waters and seeing if I was the best
as man. That's for me and my name, but really,
my kids, I gotta make sure this's money.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Right, right. But I think that's why kind of UFC
is kind of taken over because they't why they're gonna
let nobody up and.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
They can't choose this who you're gonna fight. So you okay,
you got the belt.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Okay, if you fight the number one contender, okay, you
gotta well you just beat the number one, where you
fight number two? Well, okay, that's what four and five,
y'all gonna fight this. See who's fight number one? To
see the tree, who's gonna fight for the.

Speaker 10 (44:27):
Title, and that's why they try to get him involved
with boxing too.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
But think that's the that's the key. The blueprint fixed
that problem.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah, as the blueprint, Yes, but but Roy, you wanted
to fight, you fought James, Tony whoever, whoever, if you
had first of all, if you want you won sixty eight.
You can't have no belt in my era. You are paying,
you paying.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Hey, we're suspenders, but you're not finna have a belt
because I'm gonna get it, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
And and and for the challenges for you to say,
you know what, I got to go on up here
and you didn't. You you skipped because a lot of
people and say Okay, I'm gonna be a light heavy
and then I'll go.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
For Heaby you you joked over that, and they came
back down again over Cruiser.

Speaker 10 (45:12):
Yes, but I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this
part to what he said. I understand what he's saying.
Legacy can't feed your kids right, currency does true. But
the problem with the part they mixing missing is that
if I got a fan base of fans in the
United States and they love me to death, and I

(45:32):
stay protected and I don't do nothing when I retire.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
What happened when I go abroad.

Speaker 10 (45:37):
When I go abroad right now, because I thought in it,
everybody came my way. I am like Michael Jordan's abroad
because they know what I what I did, they.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Know what I went through.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
This man just brought me a.

Speaker 10 (45:48):
Gold medal back home not long ago because of him
way back then and the nineteen eighty eight. They know
my presence, they know what I mean, they know what
I stood for. So it's like not that fan base
here in the United States. I do have a good
based in Nastas. I love them, I appreciate it. But
I'm not here the fool of fan bases. I'm here
to pool the truth. I am the best of my
time in my era. Nobody here this dispissed that understand me.

(46:11):
So to be able to say, oh, I can make
my money with my fan base, and nah, brother, don't
get it for me.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I'm old school sorr. I do no change. I respect that.
I respect what they do.

Speaker 10 (46:21):
That's why God created me in nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
So I have a look at this city.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
But here is the thing. I couldn't play the sport
of football. They worried about getting hurt. Understand you in
the box, and here talking about, well, I might get
hurt you you in the fight game. If you fight,
I don't care how great you are.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
You gonna get hit. You're gonna get hit.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Something's gonna and it's gonna it's gonna impact you. And
these guys, don't you talk. A legacy is not undefeated.
A legacy is who did you fight to become what
you became. Yeah, some if we can, we can break
it down. But like Michael Lerman said, Michael Lewis said,
guess what I went through, girl, Darryl Green, Rod Woodson,

(47:02):
Charles Woodson. I went through Niels William and Deon Sanders
to get my gold jacket. I went through gold jackets
in the plank. You heard me.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Now they got god.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Talk about I'm undefeated in the.

Speaker 7 (47:18):
State defeated.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I ain't talking about Floyd Floyd. I can't get that
tell about we ain't gonna do ain't gonna do that today.
I'm just saying we ain't gonna do that to saying yeah, Florida,
Floyd Floyd did Floyd him right now, he fight.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
TES ain't tell my ham right now I'll fight right
Tyson too.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Well, we gotta wrap it up. We got we got,
we got the big, we got the one of the
boss was coming there. Hey Roy, Hey, appreciate your man,
brother any time.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Appreciate you. Hey go, he's on it, man man, deal
with your guy. That dude my name Tom Brown, put
his heads on you. Yeah, alright, brother, No, when when
you're ready, We've been ready. We've been ready since one thirty.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
But I added to this sweater too. I didn't even
know it.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Whenever, whenever, whenever you're ready, it's two thirty one.

Speaker 9 (48:08):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I get right up him. Then I can come your
last one.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah yeah, Dana lat dang.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
No, I want to fucking fight. We got one of
the uh promoters of the fight getting ready to join
us right now. We got the big, the Big CEO
runs everything, all things UFC. He's the face of the UFC.
He's getting ready to join us on stage day the.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
White Hey chat, who y'all want to see me fighting
the UFC?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Do you think Debo?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Chat is going down. Dana White and Turkey are gonna
sponsor me and Deebo.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Baby, you're good.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Everything good to see you. Bab check you Danny. You
got it, don't You got the biggest fight in a
very very very long time. I mean it might be
the biggest fight in PACKI y'all Mayweather, you got Canello,
the undisputed super middleweight champ. You got Bud Crawford, the
first man to be in the full bet era to
be a two time undisputed champ. And they'll fighting. Somebody's

(49:15):
gonna leave. Crawford saying he leaving with like eight nine,
Bilo says, Nah, I'm leaving with my legacy. Seemn it
that I've taken on all comers that I didn't back
down from anybody.

Speaker 8 (49:27):
How did this fight come come to come to be? Well,
let's start with this. This is what makes us such
a great fight for fighting about. You know what I
always have said and feel is that to have a
great fight, what's at stake?

Speaker 6 (49:41):
What's his stake?

Speaker 8 (49:41):
It's it's no different than the super Bowl or any
of these bad, big sporting events.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
What's his steak?

Speaker 8 (49:46):
And when you have a guy like Crawford who could say,
who could stay in his lane go down as the
greatest in his division, and you know, uh, fight fights
said that he's gonna win because he's that talented, not
because he's uh taking on easy uh opponents, but to
move up two weight classes, to want to prove himself
and for Canelo to accept and get to fight. This

(50:10):
is this is what we all dream of as fight fans.
So that's why I called this once in a lifetime
fight because literally nobody does this. And how it came
about was Shake Turkey, you know from Saudi Arabia, put
this fight together, then hit me up and said I
want you to be the promoter of this event, and
uh said, okay, cut data.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Look what you do in the UFC, and this is
what we want in the UFC. You don't allow somebody
up with to try to hand pick and cherry pete. Guys, right,
you the Beth. You're gonna fight the best. If you
the number one contender, and you got to build you
fighting the number one contender, You're not fighting number ten contender.
You're not gonna duck and die and try to build
your bank account up and fear your guys.

Speaker 8 (50:53):
If you say you the beath fight the beast, well,
what I hate is debate. I hate debate. You have
everybody debating over her who this guy, that guy. There's
only one way to find out. It's like, like we
can we can argue, you can get all the experts,
you can break down the stats, you can do all this.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
And all the answers.

Speaker 8 (51:11):
You know, all the questions will be answered on Saturday
in the ring or the octagon.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
We can prove who's the best. And now we get
an opportunity to.

Speaker 8 (51:17):
Say, well, here's the thing about boxing two that drives
me crazy. Like everybody's undefeated right now in the UFC.
If you're undefeated, like John Jones. Say what you want
about John Jones. He's been undefeated his entire career. He's
fought everybody, and that means something. It means something when
you're undefeated.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
But even though, but in the UFC, Dana, even if
a guy has one loss, you don't disgard it. It
seemed like now we're boxing, if you have one loft,
you're not any good. Adasnya has a loft, Piana has
a lost. Guys have losses. If Sugar Ray hand losses,
Muhammad had losses, every boxer why did they have losses?

(51:56):
Because they thought they fought the best. Her herds fought
Sugar Rain Sugar Rain fought the Rain, They fought Barkley's
absolutely right, the heavyweight all round Robin and the baddest
dudes of all time.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
And it was it was.

Speaker 8 (52:12):
It's why the sport was so big and why so
many people loved it, and why these guys today are
able to make money off it was because those guys
fought everybody.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
But then the funny thing about it is time to change. Yes,
time to change, especially to support of boxing. The fighters
that they don't want to take a loss because it
messes up being the a side, It messes up being
a command a certain amount for your purse. It messes
up being able to pick and choose who you want
to fight and when you want to fight them.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
Yep, I agree.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
It's all to come down to.

Speaker 8 (52:40):
What you've seen is, you know, people have been talking
about the devise of boxing for over thirty years. But
what you have seen is there's no television deal right
now for boxing out there. You know, some streaming services
that are picking up, you know, picking them here and
there and all this stuff. It doesn't work. You can't
build think. Tell me, tell me a business in the

(53:01):
history of the world or a sport that has generated
trillions of dollars in revenue, Yet at the end of
the day, there's nothing in you so for it, and
and all these fights feel like going out of business.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
Sou you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Dan, When you and I were growing up, great Championship
fight used to be on regular television. You can watch
the fight on CBS. I remember with Gil Clan said,
all those gus you could like to see great.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
ABC's wide world of sports in the USA is Tuesday
night fights is where they built all the stars.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
They're absolutely right. All Lee could have never said he
the greatest. If you the duve Foreman, if you the
Duck Fraser, if you the Duck Ken Norton, even Dr
Erdie Shaver, if you the Duck can't Ron Love, You
can't say that. You can't say in an arrow with
all those great fighters out and you don't fight none of.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Them, and you the greatest, how do you get to
say that?

Speaker 1 (53:46):
No, Floyd is Floyd? And I think what has happened
is that everybody sees Floyd and they see that perfect
fifty and oh, they say forty. Oh. If I'm forty
five and oh, I'd be the equivalent. No, you're not
Floyd is a transcendent. He's a once a lifetime fighter.
No matter what, you stop trying to be him. There's
only one Floyd Mayweather Junior. You should try to be

(54:06):
the first version of you and then let us have
that whatever. But you gotta you gotta fight them.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
I agree.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
If you look at this undercart on Saturday night, all
young up and coming guys that are undefeated, all fighting
each other. So this will be the first boxing match
in a long time where I'm telling you right now
you want to be there for the first fight of
the night, whether you're in the arena or watching it
live on television, all of these fights on the on
the on this cart are gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Is this is boxing something that you want to get
and buy? I know, Turkey, you said, Ali called you
and said I want you to promote it. Is this
something that you're trying to dip your toe into. Is
this something that you're gonna get.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Into in twenty six I'm launching my thing in twenty six.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yes, So so we know how you did the I
mean you and the Petitas, y'all purchased something in the
early two thousand or two million, and you turn it
into a five billion dollar business box office. Is that
what your hope he is for boxing? Are you trying
to get boxing back to what it once was? And
can it be that? Well?

Speaker 8 (55:06):
I don't even I'm not coming in with an arrogance that, oh,
I'm gonna come in and fix boxing and I'm gonna
do everything different. My game plan is pretty clear and simple.
The best open coming guys is gonna fight each other.
And then once you get so, once you get to
you know, you got all these sanctioning organizations that are
ranking all these different guys. When the best fight the

(55:30):
best all the time, there's no question when you get
up into the top five, who the best guys in
the world are. It's the top five guys in the division?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Is that what you think? You think? They got too many?
They got the WBO, they got the IVF, the WBC
to WBA, they got Ring Magazine. Do they have too many? Says?

Speaker 6 (55:46):
The sanctioning organizations are what part of what killed boxing.
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Listen, I have two fights coming up. I would like
you to promote my fights. Go you and Turkey.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
Where are your fights?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
He wanted he want an mm A, yes, debo James.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
James Harrison UFC.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
You're gonna promote it.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
You're gonna put me on the card, and then I
want to do a boxing When you get into boxing
in twenty twenty six, I'm gonna beat the ship out
of andre Ward.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
So I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Then I need to I've never.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Listened to how do you want to do this?

Speaker 8 (56:20):
You've got an amazing career, yeah, yea yeah yeah, and
now you got a successful podcast. Yeah, very very okay.
So so because you know fifty seven, you're fifty seven, Yeah,
I look fucking great. You don't look good.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
You're great and fight fighting all my life.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Well, fifty seven is too old to be fighting.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
It is not for me.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
Fifty seven year olds fight to get out of bed
and get on a treadmill every day.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Dan, you have to do me this one favor. Please.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
I want to fight James Harrison in the octagon, five rounds,
five minutes.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
James Harrison, the NFL player. Y, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
He takes you talk to my trash. I need you
to set that up. I need you to back meet
tail Turkey do monster.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
He's what he's a monster.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Did you see the story of David Golia I have Okay,
well that's what exactly what it's gonna look like.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Is that a real story or is that a myth?
It might be a myth. I think that's a myth.
How old's he? How James do you think?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Uh? Should be probably about ten eleven years younger, probably
about forty six, forty five. I'm forty seven. I'm only
forty seven.

Speaker 8 (57:24):
Oh okay, now now you agree to the fight. No,
that's still too old, but it's better than fifty seven.
Just say yes, please, just say I can't say yes.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
We'll talk.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
I'll sell tell you this, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Oh my god, Chad, I'm gonna beat his name.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
We'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
You see it?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Is that what's happened to boxing? You see a lot
of guys boxing seemed to be headed towards the exhibitions.
You got Jake Paul gonna fight Tank Davis, You got
Tyson is gonna fight of Floyd?

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Is is that what we are with boxing?

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Well?

Speaker 8 (57:57):
You know, I think that those type of fights are
always going to exist. People are always going to be
interested in will O Cho Sinko fight Harrison Will Will
you know YouTube guy fight this guy, and these type
of fights, they're always gonna exist, it's gonna happen, and
it's always gonna peak the interest of people that want
to see what will happen.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
But it's just it's just not what I'm into. I'm
I'm into.

Speaker 8 (58:18):
Who's the best in the world, Who who's the best
in every weight class, Who's the pound for pound best.
That's my thing and that's what I'll always do. I'm
not saying I wouldn't do an Ocho Cinco.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
Versus Harrison, but.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
It would it money to be made.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
It would be Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
You know, I never say never, But it's not what
I'm into.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
There's a rumor floating around. I don't know if there's
any truth that you but I think in twenty six
a UFC event is gonna be gonna take place at
the White House.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
That is absolutely true. Are they gonna allow fans.

Speaker 8 (58:54):
You're gonna have fans like there's gonna be under so
under five thousand people will be on the south lawn
of the White House at the actual and then right
next to the White House is a massive park. We'll
have eighty five thousand people there watching on screens and yeah,
and we're gonna have a stage and you know, do concerts,
and we're gonna basically take over Washington, d C.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
For a week.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
So you mentioned that. Okay, so the wigh in, everything
that would normally happen at say Allegiance or the T
Mobile is going to take place at the White House.

Speaker 8 (59:26):
Well, at certain monuments, yeah, you know the Lincoln Monument,
we might do the weigh ins, you know. Yeah, we're
gonna take over the whole city and then the fight
will happen on the south lawn of the White House.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Boy who had no secret services, Dana, you could have said, no,
it made it real easy on us because you don't
understand what the protection that we're gonna have to go
through to make sure this thing is locked down.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
This is gonna be fort knots.

Speaker 8 (59:52):
So you know, it's probably the most badass thing about
obviously everything about is the fighters will actually walk from
the Oval Office into the into the octagon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
But I got to be so.

Speaker 6 (01:00:05):
Badass's I was at the event that you had it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
The spear and I don't know if you saw it
on that if you saw it on TV, it was great,
But if you were there in person, it was on
another level. And I remember having a conversation with you
when we sign down with an interview and said, yeah,
we gonna do something at the sphere with you did
the spear? How soon did you start like the White
House would be bad? I would love to take credit

(01:00:30):
for it. The President was the one that asked me.
He said, I think we should.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
He has this whole.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
I don't know if you'll ever meet anybody that loves
the White House more than President Tad Right, He's so
proud of that place, and and and his philosophy is
this house belongs to the people, right, it belongs to
all the Americans. And he wants to open up stuff
like you know, kids go on Easter go uh you know,

(01:00:56):
egg hunting at the White and and and having been
events that get Americans in to experience and enjoy the
White House.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
That's his thing. So you know, one of them is
we should do a fight.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
You know, he's just set it off the cuff one
day and I said say when, And he said, when
we put together all the renderings and all the you know,
how it would work. And we flew out and and
my team got to pitch him in the Oval office
and and with all the renderings, and he was blown
away by it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
And it's happening. We're doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Have you just because look, you probably won't get a
bit of venue in the history of UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Have you thought about who's going to be on that car?

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
So so we won't we won't start really looking at
who's on the card till like February.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Okay, so in February we will start making the card.
But you know, I was having a conversation with DC.
I don't know if you saw it, he says. He says, Shannon,
I know what Dana saying. But if you want some Americans,
unless unless he wants far in European to take over
the White House and win every match, he better put

(01:02:10):
John Jones on that car.

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
Ye know, Well, that's that's that's pretty big of Cormia.
I'm proud of him, man, I'm proud of him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
He said, we can't. We gotta get one win, he said,
because I don't know any Americans they can get a
win at the White House other than John Jones. I said,
what about John Jones and Aspinall? I said, would you
think data would consider that He's like, hell yeah, Like, well.

Speaker 8 (01:02:38):
One of the things with me is unlike tennis and
basketball and all these other things, that my sport is
a global sport. Yeah, and there's guys from all over
the world that are talented. I don't we can't lose
at the White House. It's a global sport. But that's
a little Americans.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
All down fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:02:56):
You can't you know, you can't determine win. That's why
they're fighting. That's exactly right. So whoever we bring in
on that card, I'm not looking for America versus you know,
in every American to win. Whoever wins wins.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I like it. You just did this new deal, I
mean a monumental deal. I mean you were you were.
I mean in the beginning you paid to be on
Fight TV, right, and then you get this deal with
a Fox, and then you go to ESPN and now
you with CBS and Paramount and billions of dollars data.
When you when when you and the Fatida sat down,

(01:03:33):
it's like, I think, this is this is business there
that we can buy a little of nothing. Did you
ever envision it would be this?

Speaker 8 (01:03:41):
Well, if you watch interviews with me early on, I
said this will be the biggest sport in the world.
And and I always knew that this would work. I
have I have this philosophy that I don't care what
color you are, what cuntry you come from, what language
you speak. We're all human beings and fightings in our DNA.
Man wet it and we like it. I got football

(01:04:02):
players that want to fight. We got like I mean,
it's crazy, but yes, I believe.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
But you don't.

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
You don't imagine a level where we're talking about correct
fighting at the White House and a lot of the
other things that we've done and accomplished.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
But but yeah, I always thought this would be big.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I mean, you go for paying ten millions to get
on TV to somebody paying you billions of billions. But
now you said, if i'm if I, if I read
this correctly, there's no more pay per of you correct right.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Well, we had guys early on.

Speaker 8 (01:04:32):
First of all, we were the redheaded stepchild of the
Fertita portfolio back in the day. Let me tell you
what and now, and all these smart guys that work
for him that hated this thing and said it's never
gonna work. And then you know, the big thing was
you guys if you pay your way on to TV,
how do you think there's ever going to be a
day where somebody's going to come to you and say, okay,

(01:04:53):
we'll pay you now. But me and the Fertitas truly
believed that once we introduced this to the mainstream that
they would love it as much as we did and
saw what we saw in it, and that did happen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
But you had to do a lot, Dana. You had
to get weight classes because in the original stages there
was no weight classes, and guys fault. I was at
the first win in Denver, Colorado in nineteen ninety three,
and guys fault. So you would fight, you win, you
move on, you fight a game when you move over.

Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
Or we had to get rid of the tournament style
because because it's not true that the best actually win,
because too many people get hurt during the night. And
now the level of fighters, I mean, these guys get
banged up, they're not ready again for you know, they're
not even moving again for two and a half weeks
after some of these fights. But one of the things
that I really had to do early on it was this.
I flew to la yesterday and was doing some pr

(01:05:43):
out there, and I did some radio. So in the beginning,
I flew all around the country and I was speaking
with you know, remember this, when we bought this thing,
newspapers were still around, right, Newspapers was how everybody got
their news. So I had to fly around and meet
with these sixty five year old editors explaining the UFC
and why it was gonna be. And all these guys
cared about was ball and stick sports. So not only

(01:06:06):
did we buy our way onto television, nobody would cover us,
so we bought our way onto radio. Right now, radio
was massive then and you had to be good radio. Well,
we'd have these fighters waking up at six in the
morning or three four in the morning getting dropped into
the East coast. Yeah, right, and these guys be like, oh,

(01:06:27):
you know, they were terrible radios. So none of the
radio wanted to talk to any of the fighters. So
every pay per view we would switch. I would get
up at three thirty in the morning and do a
whole radio satellite tour. Then the next one, Joe Rogan
would get up at three thirty in the morning and
do a fullse you know, because we both loved the sport.
We were both passionate about it and we both could

(01:06:48):
talk about it, and that was how we really got
started too. I mean, there's so many different pieces to
this puzzle on getting this business to where we are today.
And radio was just as big as buying our way
onto Spike TV.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
So get Congress approval because a lot of states you
couldn't you couldn't you couldn't participate in it, and so
you had to go before Congress and you had to
get legislation. And now, if I'm not mistaken, you'll think
you was.

Speaker 8 (01:07:10):
Sanctioned and all the and a couple of the states, Uh,
it was actually illegal. So not only do we have
to get regulated and and and and be a part
of the their state athletic commission, we had to undo
like some laws like.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
It was illegal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, so yeah, it was.

Speaker 8 (01:07:25):
It's been a lot of work to see. It's fun
to say, oh, they bought it for two million and
now it's worth you know, they instead a seven billion
dollars or eight billion dollar deal. You were telling me,
there's been a lot of work to get to where
we are today.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
All the things that you've done, is that and all
the things that because you're and I don't think. I
don't think you're done. I don't think I don't know
what you would actually do. Wait till you see what
we do in the next three years.

Speaker 8 (01:07:53):
Just every time people think that, you know, all for instance,
when we sold for four point zero two five billion, right, yeah,
everybody said, you know, they overpay like this, things that
beyond the peak, blah blahlah. I love the negativity and
I love that talk. And if you look at where

(01:08:14):
we are now and what we've accomplished, wait to see
what we do in the next couple of years.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Wow, I can't I can't wait. I don't How much
longer is Dana White gonna be gonna be captain in
this ship? I can't imagine you doing anything else. You so,
I mean, you pop out of bed because this is
not work for you. You look forward to wake it
up in the morning. Lord, please let me put my
feet on the floor and let me go do my
job in the morning. How much longer does Dana White? What?

Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
So it's funny when when got out of you, I'm
fifty seven, all right, So when guys it might be
the same for him. But when guys like you and
I were growing up, right, you always had the older
generation talking about I'm gonna retire and I'm gonna be
drinking you know, pinacle Oudas on the beach and all
this shit right, go away for ten days? How many

(01:09:02):
pinacle Oders can you drink? And and I'll be on
these great vacations that are unbelievable. YEA, after day seven,
I'm like, if I have to put suntan lotion on
my body one more time, and if I drink one
more of these drinks, and if I eat another crappy meal,
I'm gonna I can't wait to get back to work, right.

(01:09:25):
It was all an illusion for those poor guys, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
And you have to do you do? Tell me about
ten days?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
You think I'm gonna do this for the next thirty years?

Speaker 8 (01:09:33):
No way in hell, I listen, whoever is gonna take
this over after me, I'm gonna have to die for
them to come in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
And you know what I had. I had a teacher
that did that. He was a teacher for like forty years.
He retired a week later.

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
Yep. I hear those stories all the time too, and
I get it, yes, because it does.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Next.

Speaker 8 (01:09:57):
What are you gonna do nothing, especially when you do
things at the level that we've done them right, But
you about what you've done and what it must have
been like for you guys to run out of that
tunnel on game day and go out and just destroy
the team and win and all the stuff that goes
along with it. Who the hell wants to walk away
from that? Nobody know what he does. That's the answer

(01:10:18):
to that question.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Well, you definitely have the best job of the house. Ladies, gentlemen,
thank you for joining us, Dana, Thanks for having regulations
man a. Hopefully this thing is as big Saturday Night
as the build up to it, and if we get
anything close to what we think is gonna be, it's
gonna be unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (01:10:35):
Here's what I can promise you when I say this
all the time, I'm the bells and whistles guy. I
will put on the greatest bells and whistles you've ever
seen Saturday Night, whether they're live or watching on TV.
And then I hand the baton off to the fighters
and they got to go into the Dana. Thanks for
joining us, all right, Thanks for having me all right, guys,
thank you for joining us. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
We want to thank all the guests that stop by
andre Ward, Roy Jones, you you're Dana White, Fernando Vargas
Junior and Senior. Stopped by Antonio Tarboro, Caleb Plant and
Jim Gray. Thank you guys for joining us, Thank you
guys for watching. Thank you for your support. CO see
tonight after the game Watchington Green Bay. We're back in
five hours. Please call me

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