Club 520 - DeMar DeRozan on Kobe Bryant relationship, losing to LeBron, getting traded for Kawhi - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume A right, we back at the episode of
Club five twenty podcasts. I'm the house, Miami is DJ
well special guests in the building. To my left, we're
gonna introduce my Man's last But to my far left
we got my dog. BI should be hearing out the prailes.
How you were nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to
it another one.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I already know it's about to be episode. My boy
got the.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Tower long getting a little hot liquor, a little.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Spotsy, and my little you got the all white song.
I know you watched the show. My Man's normally keep
the all black forces with the white lacens. Y'all rocked
them out in Cali. Man with the white lace, All
black with the white lace. Nasty, I'm gonna take care
of you, bro, all.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Black forces and white saying you just.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Had a good game too at the worst name, I
should have sent him then for the Drew, for the Drew.
That's wow, you got on the perfect outfit. That's one
of my typical outfits.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Stinking right there. That's the beautiful I got.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know what them fourteen thirteen thirteen. That's easy, that's like,
that's on the way all the way. We'll get to
Addy after this period for sure. To about right, my
dog young not your young team.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
How you are, man, I'm chilling, bro, I'm so excited.
We got an old non draftee in here. You know,
we got draft at the same time. I don't know
how he's still playing, but don't worry about it. I'm
so proud of it though. Man, we go way back.
So I'm geek to have be a part of this
episode for show.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
For Shure Man legend in the building, one of the
coaches to touch a basketball professional score, six time All Star,
future Hall of Famer. We got the man to Martin
Rossan in the building. Appreciate you sliding on this big
dog Man, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
I've been You're my partner, and tell you, like all
the homies be like, man, you gotta go, you gotta
go on the show. You gotta go on the show,
you know. So I'm hyped to be on here. Man
to me, I call this like the hoops drink chance,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Always check it out.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
We always be laughing, sending sending everything to the group chat.
So I'm na have to be on it for show.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Sure, man, glad I have you man crazy order story
and might put it in the chat. We got to
start therapy here with the with the with the with
the bag man.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
When p Miller founding, when person found he put you
right on the TV show right away. Bro, How was

(02:32):
that though?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
How did that even come about?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Man? Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It was?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
It was the most random moment ever because at the
time I was playing on AU team, so everybody who
with the P Miller Ballers, we was on another A
team before that, and that was like our last year.
I think we had just one like Nationals and was
breaking up sponsorship and everything. So we was we was
all just trying to figure out what we was going

(02:56):
to do next. Then all of a sudden, you know,
we got word like Master p wanted to have an
AU team. You know, He's gonna have tryouts at at
this high school show up. So in my mind I'm thinking, like,
all right, this is just his team. He not actually
gonna be there, you know what I mean. So we
all show up to the high school pee walking. Then

(03:17):
Romeo walk in with him, like all right, we got
practiced three man weave, four man we five man weave,
and we hoop, so we're doing that. So we just
thinking it's gonna be a moment just that. So he
was like, you know, all right, same time next week.
So it became a consistent thing like oh damn, we
about to were about to play for p oh shit,
he coaching too, Like you know, we were about to

(03:40):
rock out and all of a sudden before we start playing.
He always used to invite us to the house. So
we used to go to his house practice in the backyard,
lifting weights at his house.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
In the gym.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Just crazy shit that damn nobody, especially for me at
the time, like I'm fourteen, coming from like Compton. Were
going to the house. He got a tennis court, pool,
wait room, got everything you need. Then at the same
time we watching him record make albums at the time,
rome doing the Romeo Show, So it was like it
was a trip at that time, knowing like we about

(04:09):
to play for this team and he about to be
a coach. Was any other top Dogs on your team
with you? Yeah, Brandon was on that team. We had
a we had a kid named Yeah on that Okay,
we had remember baby Shack, he played on our on
our team, so we had a lot of talent. We
had a lot of guys and you know, we we

(04:32):
we just rocked out after that.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's hard, b I had a That ship was funny
as fun It was a trip bro trusted. We had
our own bus going to.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Games like we was like we was like on some
like A and one type ship.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
No fact, were pulling up the whole gym wade like
it was. It was.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
It was in the spotlight early, which is.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Crazy because I met him at a B C D camp.
He probably don't remember. I was just a young star, buddy,
and don't even worry about it. I was just trying
to make my way. I had no scholarship offer, so
I'm trying to do anything I could do to get
a scholarship. Me and him are on the same team
at ABCD, can't. I'm gunning. I'm going to be a senior.
I'm trying to get some offers here. You're younger. I'm

(05:18):
having a moment. I'm playing good, shining, doing my thing.
I get a couple offers after the first day, like well,
I got like forty but whatever, so I'm having a
good day. The next day, he tapped me on the shoulder.
It's master p I'm thinking he about to be like, yeah,
you nice, so you know. I'm like, he like, hey,
my man, that kid right there can play. Give him

(05:40):
a chance, play with him. He tell me a play
to do, like drive to the middle, throw it up.
He gonna go get it. I swear to god I
did that. I threw it up when we dunked it,
I ain't get the ball no more.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Every I swear everything. I love Bro every play for Bro. Hey,
he was killing I'm like, damn, who is this dude?
And they like he played for Pete Miller. I'm like, Damn,
I don't know nothing. I'm like, but they'll be cool
with master P like saying ice cream.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Look, but that's what I knew. I seen him right there.
And then the scene when we get drafted, I'm like, oh, yeah,
it's different.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Did you play the Pete Millers?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah? I played him. You know. It's crazy fight up now.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
It was the time I was playing in him so much, right,
And I don't think I ever talked about this. Romeo
was trying to go to high school with me at
Countin High right, we were.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Trying to I've never told this story. Bro.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I'm glad it's here.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So wrong.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Ron was trying to figure out how to go to
school with me at Counton High. So we ended up saying,
like we're going to get the whole team Pete Miller's.
We made them all blue. Everybody had blue p Miller.
So rome was like, you know, really trying to figure
out how you can go to Contain High.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
So we meet him with the school.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
They was like, man, he'd just show off the games,
he get the work once a week, do the work
all that. So we end up having like a practice,
like he came to my high school, had a practice.
I'm talking about every gang member outside of the gym.
Everything we go hoop. As soon as we come out
the gym, the principal was like, yeah, he's not gonna

(07:18):
be able to come here. It was like he was
really trying to go to high school with me, you
know what I mean, Like we was really like about
to sponsor this school to wear Pete Miller's and everything,
but it ended up not working out and everything. But
that was a crazy It was a crazy time because
especially at that time, like you're talking about little Romeo
going to Conte Hide that shu don't even sound right?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah too much, Yeah, doing the beach somewhere. She really
liked that though.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah he could hoop, he can hoop for like, he
definitely you know, cal hoop, you know what I mean,
he definitely surprised if it was something you stick with,
you know, you know, it all come down the size
at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
His little brother nice though. Yeah, he don't want. He
didn't want.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, Mercy, Mercy, he gonna be the one to He
going to Houston next year, but he definitely gonna be
the one.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
And what's so crazy is people forget like he made
it to the crazy but he used to hoop. What
it's every day Like he will come in who play
for real? Damn they're about to fight you everything Like
he playing like bully ball, shooting threes like he used
to hoo with us all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
That's t bro, that's fire. It's the cold moment that
you got to brace early, bro, like the pick they got, Yeah,
they got to do rags and that's a fire album
cover look like, but that was that was at a
video shoot, bro, that's even harder.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Look, no bull ship, I used to miss school to
go to a video shoots. Whoever had a video if
he had a video rum. I would miss school, be
at the video shoot all day.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Because we heard you. It's just a side bar. We
heard you rap today they ain't play that.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Ship said you definitely got bars, So it might have
started from there.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
So for sure, Man, But like crazy basketball origin man
going crazy in high school?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Was it a no brainer you was going to USC Man? Yeah,
because I didn't want to leave home. It's crazy. I
took a visit. I took a couple of visits with
the North Carolina, Florida State cal somewhere else. I took
like unofficials. But when I went to Florida State at
the time, that's when all the hurricanes and ship was

(09:37):
going on. So I'm out there, I'm like, Man, ain't
no way in hell I'm leaving home.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I can't. I can't.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
You know what I mean, If this ship happened, I'm terrified.
So once once I've seen that happen, I was like, man,
I'm staying home regardless. Then I started looking at it
on some real ship. I started looking at it like, man,
if I go to the NBA, it's a good chance
I'm not going to play home. So let me get
let me enjoy playing home one last time and ship
I do that and get my ascent to Canada, like
you know what I mean, Like I didn't think I'd

(10:04):
go that far, but you know what I mean. But
I wanted to stay home for the most part, just
for the simple factor, like I wanted to be home
one last time for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean, you went to USA. It was crazy. You
almost went to USA. I never the year before, but.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oj Mayo went and when I went on my visit,
OJ happened to be there. They forgot I was on
the visit.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, you know how that goes.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
It was just like, oh, yeah, you come on, we
get you too. My pop was like, yeah, that ain't
the place for you, but nah, it was fun. I
ain't gonna lie. Keep it a real. It's a beautiful
scener some nice US season. It's a nice campus, man,
they have it set up for you.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And you went.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Yeah, But I wasn't tripping on nothing because I was home,
you know what I mean. Like, I didn't even trip
on whatever it was you could show me, because at
the end of the day, I was home. I was
in my comfort already, so I wasn't even tripping on
what you could show me. I'm looking at it like,
let me do this six seven months and I'm going anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Okay, so you alread had to project it in your mind.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I was out. I was.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I was going, that's hard, yeah, respectful, like the number
three player in the country.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
So yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
He was on that list.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah I was. I was.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
I was going, what was you battling with in high school?
Because I was a year older, so I'm not even sure.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
So our class was crazy because we had Tyreekrek was
was the man, Brandon was the man, Drew Holiday was
a man. So we had a solid class of like
from that wing position of dudes that was dogs, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
So it's three that's in Cali right there there there.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
You know what I mean. So just in our state
a loan like it was, it was, it was. It
was a lot going on just from that competitive standpoint.
So I mean, we had we had plenty other dudes
like Scottie Hopson.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we had We had a lot
of dudes man that that that had a chance that.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
You know, either injuries or whatever it may be. But
at the time high school it was, it was it
was a dog fight. Yeah, I thought Scotty was going
to the me too, me too.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh dangn And for us, we always big up in
the end, especially Naptown hoops because we had a lot
of cuz the time. But like we look at it now,
you talk about them areas, y'all. Y'all had the real
ones that O six, O seven eight class nothing but
all pros.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
And yeah, think about the year before it was James Harden.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
It was like Russell Russ like we had like some
some some dogs. We had a couple of years where
it was like it was it was you look at it,
It's come on, you can't deny it. Like out of California,
even just southern California at the time, it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Did you ever come across them though? Like in high school?

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, against I played against Drew. I've been playing against
Drew ever since I was eleven twelve years old. He
was the first. He was the first person I ever
played with. How I learned the word Amberdextrius, I learned
it from Drew Holliday. Okay, somebody was like man. He
he used both hands like how he played now is
how he played when he when he.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Was eleven years old.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Dang yill, smart, crafty, defensive, like defensively all over the floor.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
He was the same exact way.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
He cold the cold.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
So it's like all those guys played against him since
we was eleven twelve years old. For sure, man Clay
Clay play was my high school class. Oh a, so
you know we had a we had a we have
some dogs facts for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Digital thing one year in usc How was it playing
in college? I mean, you know what I'm saying. I
know it's a little bit of a different place, especially
from high school and that you how was that playing
in college?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And how was it playing at the crib in college?

Speaker 5 (13:34):
I ain't gonna lie. My first two months in college
I struggled because it was like, you know, you go
from being a star, being able to do whatever you want,
however you want, whenever you want to where it's like
now you gotta you gotta learn the structure of a
discipline from another level of you know, coach telling you to,
you know, run the offense for twenty five seconds before

(13:54):
somebody shoot, you know what I mean. Like, So it
was a struggle in my first two months. But after that,
once I got it and started clicking. For me, it
was it was. It was simple, it was easy, start killing.
It was cool, just out of family there, you know, ship,
I will, I will playing a game, and twenty minutes
after the game, I'm right back in.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Compting, like you know what I mean, like it was,
it was, it was that every day for me.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
And you play with my dog, My dog man really
like he helped me through that whole even before we
play the game. I remember came to my dorm room
and just you know, embraced me. You know what I mean,
that's that's that's that's the o.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
G Man, real one dog, tell you a real one
for sure. Facts he told us you it was a dog.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
He was like, Man, I had oj the year before
then I had the mark came. He was like, man,
I just played with some dogs. Well and I was like, yeah,
for sure you.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Did, my dog man. That's a good dude, man, for sure. Man.
I got to ask you a question of how true
this is?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You play the part in the US getting their own
pe Kobe's yes, m yes.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
And it more so came from the relations ship I
had with Cold I think you know when I was
like fifteen sixteen, You remember when they used to have
like Steve Nash camp YEP for Kobe Camp, Paul Periods Camp. Yeah, Mari,
I think it was a Mari Mark camp.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
So it just started from, you know, my relationship with Cob.
I think it's a picture that that started to go around.
I was a cold camp. Cob was talking to me.
I was sitting like front row. Clay was in the picture.
Were like fifteen, sixteen years old, and you know, ever
since then, like me and Cob had just like a
bond one me being from LA and the connection kind
of just grew from there. Me wearing the shoes and

(15:35):
you know, I think when the Kobe once came out,
he gave me a pair and I started just rocking
them from there, like Kobe twos. Then you can go
back to, you know, google me in high school my
senior year I had I was the first ones with with.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
The Nike. I d Kobe's damn every colorway.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
It was to a point like all through high school,
people tell you like I had so many Kobe's. After
every game I was throw him in the crowd. Uh
he clowned you know, so it was like it was
you out of pocket high school. That's fire hard, Like
you know this was, so it was like, you know,
it started from there. Then you know when got the
s C at the time, I think the Kobe Fords

(16:16):
was it was Kobe Fords.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Was out, and you know it just ran away with
it from here.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
But you're gonna tie your shoes though, never have like
how you That's why I know he is trench baby. Listen,
he hooped without his shoes tied brow just like this,
That's what I'm talking.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
But but the thing, you know why though, what like
I played a new shoe every game, so you know
how like most guys gotta break their shoe and everything,
so I like the tight fit. So I gotta put
on a new shoe every game. So I don't I
don't need the time. And it all started and forget.

(16:55):
I got some Jordan Nines when I was like eleven
years old. I got I have had some Jordan I
never told this story. Either have some Jordan Nyn's and
I got them for like Christmas or some shit. So
I wanted to wear them in a game. So my
mom dad was like, man, these your school shoes. This
for school. I'm like, no, I want to look clean

(17:16):
in the game. So it's like all right, you messing
on messing them up, that's on you. So I never
wanted to tie my shoe to put a crease in them. Never,
So I was like, man, I'm just playing these motherfuckers
like I'm just walking around. So it started from that
moment of me never tying my shoe. I was like
eleven years old. I didn't want to fucking my Jordan Yns.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
You just hoop and the motherfucker giving you thirty five
forty and he ain't tied shit.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
With elite footwork. That's the crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Are the best fits of basketball history and your shoes
ain't tied, and that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
It's so crazy because it's been so many games. I
would be in a corner in front of the visit
visitor bench. You will, you will hear niggas say this,
niggas shoes ain't tied, like you wouldn't hear it, Like
like it's niggas, I said here, disrespectful all the time.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Bro, I'm about to I'll never forget San Antonio. You
was in San Antonio. This is when I first noticed it.
Like you've probably been, like you said, you've been doing
it forever. But I first noticed it because I was like,
I'm gonna ask Mark for his jersey. I was like
super proud for I'm ask some nigga for the jersey.
But I was like, man, he oh, nah, I'm a
fan asked for his jersey and I look down.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
So I'm gonna ask for some kobees too, I said.
Nigga ain't got shoes up.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I said, man, he's not about to play to night.
This nigga proceeds to get like thirty five. I never
laced this shop, I said, man.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
I told the people on the bell, like wig, you know,
he just gave you thirty five.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
He ain't tied his shoes any durable though you always play.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You tell your shoes like you do construction, and still
they work for corner.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Look at me.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I tied my shoes all the way up. What ship
was tied in the brill.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Was flopping down on the ground tide certainly right now,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I was doing this ship all right.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's the trick. Don't like your shoes. Like your shoes, man,
I don't. It ain't for everybody.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
And I'll be seeing some niggas hurt their ankle and
they tied how they show up all tight like I.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Never ye, Nigga's lame. Don't worry, bro, I can't relate.
But that's crazy. Like you said, man, you kill usc
Did you get drafted and then you go to Canada
Like you didn't want to go to Floida because that
was too far.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
You go to a whole other country.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah. I think I needed it though, because I was
so stuck on being home and scared to leave home
that I needed that to kind of get me in
an element of you know, a lot of my ways
I follow now was from me going to Canada my
first year of being by myself, nobody able to come,

(19:54):
none of my cousins, nobody had a passport, nobody even
knew who the passport was. Like, I didn't get a passport,
and so two days before I got drafted, like so
let alone my family got one. So I'm up there
just by myself, and all I could do was just
focus on who you know what I mean, Like I
didn't have no distractions. I didn't have to worry about
people in and out. So it was it was. It
was beneficial for me, it was. And I had great

(20:17):
vets too at the time, you know what I mean,
Like Jared Jack helped me out a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
That was my that was my that was my roll.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Dog like he was the first person introduced me to
a lot of ways on how to dress wintertime, with
to eat you know what I mean, all that, you know,
So it gave me a chance just to lock in.
So I was I was definitely grateful for that because
you know, if I would anywhere else, who knows what
would have happened.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Facts, damn, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, your
first winter, boy, it was different.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Oh no, it was different because winter hit. I just
remember getting off the plane one time, it's snowing. I
got chucks on the park, you know what I mean.
By the time I get in the car, my whole
angle fro, you know what I mean. Like I'm like,
I didn't know what to wear, how to wear win awear,
you know what I mean. Like, so everything was like
a new learning experience for me that I needed.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know what, I meant to play with one of
the gods, Cal Lorry.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, I was a couple of years later. Yeah that's Cal.
Like I talked to Cal every fucking day all day.
He called me early Cal. When Kyle came to Toronto,
it was interesting because I didn't. I didn't have a
relationship with him at all. Like we played for a
whole year together and I never even said a word
to him. Damn we didn't talk. It was like literally

(21:39):
no word. We're talking about coming practice. It wasn't no
like dap up. But none of that ship like like
it wasn't it wasn't nothing like he he He was
a type that I was still stuck in the mindset
of having like a complementality, like, man.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Who is this nigga? Like what do he? You know?
He Philly, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (21:57):
He coming in with his aggressive manner, doing whatever it
is he doing, getting on like man.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Who he too good for niggas? Like I ain't talking
to him.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
But one thing like I noticed over time was like
he really put into work and cared about you know,
the craft, you know what I mean. It was like
no no funny games when it it was all it
was all strictly business. And like that next year, I
respected that more than anything that it made me want
to be like closer to him, you know what I mean,
because he a ride and die for you on that court.

(22:26):
You know that's how that's how the respect came and
ship next day. Yeah, like next thing, you know, like
like that that became our roll though, like you know
what I mean to where like we we we had
shipped to a t in the game to where like
he and no, like I come out beginning the game,
I'm like, yo, I'm going for a first quarter.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I'm getting to it. It's I bet I get the
second half.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Like we played off each other so much like that
because we was you know, from the friendship and understanding,
like we just wanted to win that bad.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
And what's so crazy is like y'all historically like built
a franchise up there. You know, you had Vincent teammate
up there, but which'll did and the Raptors Jersey is
up there starting the test of time.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Yeah for sure, And that just one thing I definitely like,
you know, hold my hat too, because it's like you know,
we we you know when I first got there and
nobody gave a shit about it about it, you know
what I mean. People would come to Toronto knowing they
was getting to win, like that was automatic. I like
to have a time every time, like every time, like
it was a thing like bro like it was it was,

(23:23):
it was it was a thing. Like I remember, we
used to play either Saturday or Sundays. We used to
have early games on the weekend, like a twelve o'clock
twelve thirty game, and we were so bad. We used
to be like, man, we could get whoever we playing
because we know they without the night before. Damn, you
know what I mean. That's how bad. That's where we
had to start from and fight a way out of that.
So you know, I definitely probably myself on just you know,

(23:46):
changing and shifting the culture to have it like a
you know, a winning mentality there for sure.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, I start smacking shit boy.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, I remember that group. I used to want to
be on that. Yea, I've seen so bad. It was
you a mirror.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Y'all had like this cool ass team, like y'all was
fresh as fuck. Y'all always remember one game y'all had
on Jordan Six's.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I'm like, shit, I won't play on this team.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
They look like they young. We smacked y'all, we get
the hell out of them. But I was like, they
look cool, like they look like they have a good time.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I was like, damn, I want to play on this team.
And then to see y'all go from nat to all
sudden like, oh, we about to go Toronto. We gotta
play this nigga, Kyle are about to be taking charges.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
We got to send the double for debo. Bro. You know,
he get to this mill round just about to get crazy.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
And so to see y'all take it from there to
like I'm having fun looking at y'all like, y'all you
had fun.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, they real contenders. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Sure what year did the city really get lit?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Though?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
So we're you know, Drake and everybody pulling up to
the game.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Drake, Drake will always come, but he was you got
to think about early on. That's when he just started
to blow up too, you know what I mean. So
I think when it really started taking off was that
first year we went to the place we played, Brooklyn.
I think that was like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. You know,
we we end up started having like the Jurassic Park outside.

(25:10):
That was hard, all the fans standing outside. We just started, like,
you know, they started like this whole rebranding outside ind
and we just took care of everything on the floor.
So I want to say around thirteen fourteen when it
really really took off.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
And you could tell, like they had that one like
the logo on the floor that was like three D. Yeah, yeah,
I had the Camo jerseys and shit, ye really.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
They really started to change and rebrand everything, you know
what I mean, team wise and brand wise, and you know,
we kind of took off with it. And you know,
obviously like when when Drake got behind it, and you know,
we everything kind of just fell in line, honestly. You
know with the winning, you know, winning always saw saw
of everything. But you know, we I think we just
started to gain anybody respect because at that time when

(25:53):
we played Brooklyn in playoffs, that's when they had Joe Johnson,
Paul KG, Darren Williams, like they had a squad. We
took them to seven games. That was my first playoff
series and most of the team, like we were young.
So to take them to seven that lose by ship
at one point, you know, we that gave that gave
us a swagger we needed.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Years.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
They was I ain't gonna lie. Was tough to play
bro y'all was y'all was cold, like man.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
It was was so crazy because that next year that's
when them niggas was nice. I think we were we
were the only ones beating y'all. Y'all would beat us.
I remember getting to the playoffs. I remember because that
next year, I'll never forget them. Niggas was nice and
we all we I think we would beat them, Lisa
three out of four times. So I remember going to

(26:45):
the playoffs. We played the Wizards, and we was like,
we're gonna beat the Wizards. We want to play Atlanta
because we match up well with them, beat them, blah
blah blah. But we end up getting swept by the Wizards.
That's what y'alla. But yeah, we was like them niggas
was nice, but we knew we could beat them. Like
that's that was our mindset. Before we played the playoff game.

(27:06):
We was like, all right, we got the Wizards first,
lets line up so we could play Atlanta second round.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
We get into the conference final.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
I remember I had made a defense for y'all. I
was like, we're gonna trap him on everything we gonna make.
We knew Kyle can shoot, we knew Cay can score,
but we was like, t ross the rest of them,
they gonna have to fucking hoop. But we already knew
we was gonna beat whoever we was playing the first round,
don't even know who we played. We played Brooklyn and
we swept them, and we like, we're gonna play Toronto.

(27:34):
We I didn't think John was gonna beat them. Listen,
I didn't either. We got swept. We got crazy, bro,
we got ours beat.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
We marked Toronto on that game. We was like, we're
gonna play Toronto.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
We did. We did the same ship.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah, but we had The thing that was fucked up
is that we knew if we played in Toronto, like
I knew, like we played in Toronto, they might get
us one of them games, because Toronto was tough to
play at that time. Like and the way I was,
my life was set up times. Toronto was one of
my favorite cities. That was number two at the Miami.

(28:12):
So I was like, I know, I ain't gonna be
ship one of them guys. But then this might become
Dinnis might play that game.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You might come to play.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
But but then when they got swept with D C
wasn't my ship. I mean DC was cool, but it
was I can focus in DC a little bit. I
couldn't focus in Toronto games.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, that was one of my weaker weaker cities.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
It was so crazy as both y'all had popping teams
at the time. But the problem was there was this
person in the East, hard person to get around at
that time.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
That yeah, Bro, I mean, I mean, I know J
T said it plenty of times. I said it plenty
of times, but yeah, that motherfucker was impossible to me.
That's just what it was like, you know what I mean,
Like it just it just you know ship it was.
It was no other way around it.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
You don't think y'all could have had more peace and
could have gotta done.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Bro, No, you can do it.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I'm be honest. I'm being honest. Like, no, Bro, Bro
was just like at that time, like it's unbelievable. I
always I have arguments with people because it's like they
asked me what bron was the best, and it's like,
my that Miami bron in that second Cleveland bron Y.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's my first time when he first went back to Cleveland,
that nigga was Bro.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
It was it was bro. It was he controlled everything
from top to bottom. Man, Like it was when you
stepped on that floor, it was like it was it
was tough.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Bro. You gotta he wanted the Greats for a reason.
You know what. I Listen, man, I've never won a
playoff game against them.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
We know.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
I've been in fourth series with this man. I got
swept four times.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I got a couple wins.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
One time we was up thirty. I swear always up third.
That's played for the Pacers, the only way I played
for the player. We up thirty. Game three, I'm like,
I finally beat this dude.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
He walking in half. Tom said, we're good, We're good, Yard.
I keep their head up. They were down eight in
the third quarter. I looked at them.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Myself, it's.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Gonna beat us Spring. I'm doing everything about power. Look, Paul,
shoot the ball man, take us home.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I just want one win. I knew he wasn't gonna
beat him, but damn, I just want.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
To Speaking about Lebron being tough, who's one of your
tough matchups one on one.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Outside of you, of course, outside of Bron, Like just
one on one h ooh he had that two yeah
kill bro.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
D Wade. M hmm.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
But I think somebody that was like, really really tough
that I like, I couldn't like like I had to
go head to head with was was Joe, Joe Johnson,
Daniel Johnson. Like I remember, my first Playoff series was
Verse Joe, and I got like every bit of io Joe,
especially at the time.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm young, and you know, ship.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Part of the part of the way I play now
is because of Joe, of how how slow he played
and he was in his body getting to the buck
getting to a spot, getting to the bucket, you know
what I.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Mean, Like, damn, I'll see that now. Yeah, you feel
me like a lot of a lot of like a
lot of that ship.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
How I play now I get from fucking Joe, all
that methodic driven getting to a spot, like bodying all that.
I got that ship from Joe because I never forget
my first Playoff game. I went home that it was
an early game. I went home that that evening and
I was I was in pain. It felt like I
got jumped by ten niggas, just like banging with them

(31:42):
the whole game, you know what I mean, Because that's
how physical he was.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
And just getting to a spot. So Joe was always tough,
Like Joe, Joe definitely was tough for me.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Did you always have that mini in your game? Was
that always your go to the MIDI because you didn't
be the best mini to me? Six rip Himmelson.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
You know my my.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Rookie year, Alex Alex English was my one of the
assistant coaches. People who don't know those jerseys. So this
a little like just a just just a little like
you know, fun fact like people don't know. I used
to always like sit and listen to Alex talk, and

(32:27):
you know, you look him up. He was top fifty
greatest of all time. And he used to show me
how he used to score at the elbow all the
time by just one dribble pull up, shooting over mother,
one dribble right, one dribble left, whatever it may be,
I'm shooting over these like And I was so amazed

(32:47):
by how simple he kept the game and was able
just to get buckets. And that always stuck with me.
And he was just always once you master this and
get great at these positions on the floor where no
matter what shot you shoot, knowing that nobody could block it,
you're gonna become unstoppable. And that ship always stuck with me,
and I always paid attention to that, like, man, whatever
I do, I gotta make sure I get I gotta

(33:09):
get this anything within a three. I gotta get that
ship together. And that's how I looked at it.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
And that ship is more than that ship is my bucket.
Every time every time you shoot that ship, bro, I'm like,
that's good. You started faking everything. He's still gonna hit
that ship is amazing, Brocause what's so amazing about it?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
They tried to take that shot out the game and
like for you to still like master that shot like
it was a year.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Like it was a year where like they came to
me and said, you have to shoot more threes, like
you gotta do this and this, And it was like
I'm like why, Like I really like it was a
year when I was a straight dickhead when it came
to that, I'm like why, Like nobody can stop me
doing this?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Why do you want me to stop doing this? You
know what I mean? Analytics? I hate it.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Like when when that analytics shit started coming in a game,
it used to make me so mad because not just
for myself, even early on in my career, I used
to look at it like, Yo, what you're telling people
that what you're telling these youngest that's coming up that
need to learn the fundamentals of the game. You know
what I mean, it's inside out, not outside in how
the game is played, like understand because yes, you feel

(34:21):
me Like yeah, So it's like it's like that's my
philosophy to where it's like, yo, it's bigger than just
me how I view the game, to where it's like
I want people to understand, like this is the art
of basketball. This is the art of what the game
was built on. Like everybody can't be a Steph Curry,

(34:41):
and that's fine. Steph is Steph for a reason. Everybody
can't be everybody can't, but everybody can master spots when
it comes to this game and build off that. Everybody's
not gonna be shooting thirty thirty five footers every every
time that you do it the best.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Though, Bro averaging, Damn, they're a dub over dub all midies.
That's crazy. Bro, you didn't don't have no three. Bro
when I played too bad. Let's take a track.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Let me.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Freak thump me.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Bro, don't shoot threes.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Don't shoot threes and cold though ship is unstoppable.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I want to talk about Shoo three. I've seen him.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Want to beat the Paters a couple of years ago
off of NICs Ass three.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Oh yeah, but I'm saying he got it now.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, But I never wanted to like abuse it, like
like I seen Jordan's say some Ship a long time ago.
It's like I never wanted to get comfortable with the
three because it takes my aggressiveness in the mid range
and get into the basket away, you know what I mean.
It's easy to fall a victim, especially with me, like
I try to be I try to practice perfection when

(35:52):
I go out there and play in a sense of
like I'm not gonna shoot bad shots, and I'm like
I have a goal in my head always shoot above
fifty percent no matter what, you know what I mean,
Like I never want to be forty percent shoot Like,
I really try to master my spot so when when
in game it becomes it becomes natural to me.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
No, you you can tell that you like love your
craft though, Like I was the one I ain't gonna lie.
I played around with my craft. I had a good time.
Like ship, I'm a hoop. I just loop naturally. That's
what we do in Indiana. It wouldn't like, hey, go
to the gym. It's like ship. I just naturally can
hoop like I could tell like when I I even

(36:33):
like I watch you on YouTube with Dribble too much.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I watched that.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
I'm like, yeah, I wish I would have Like I
ain't trained with nobody. I trained with my niggas trying
to rebound quick like you know, ain't read the.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
First job you want the first stretch for it. I
was you get my own rebel down Georgia.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
He's with George Hill in high school. Man, Georgia will
average thirty yeight he everage fat.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
No let the SiGe for you. That was been like
this too. This is about the orn. It's still crazy, man.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
But one of my favorite parts about your game is like,
obviously you go crazy in the league, but to see
you go back home and play in the drew every
summer and like really get to it, like y'all really
be battling that also congrassed by the wait you know
what I'm saying, But for whole fans, like like we
love basketball, to see you hoop in the summer, like
for y'all to really pull up there and really go crazy,
that ship is fire man.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
You know it's crazy for me, Bro, It's like It's
a sentimental thing because you know, my dad used to
take me to Julie when I was like when I
was young, even before I started playing to where. I
just remember when day he picked me up. I mean
we left the house one day and he's like, man,
bring bring your basketball shit. He took me to Juliet

(38:07):
I was fourteen, fifteen years old, said go out there
and play grown ass men. I'm like, what I guess
my dad told everybody, all the growning don't take it
easy on me, go out there, give him the work.
And I had to compete, but it gave me a
mental edge when I go out there and play with them.
When I go play people my age, it's like fuck

(38:28):
that these these motherfuckers can't fuck with me. I'm playing
against grown men that they kids sitting on the sideline,
you know what I mean. So it was always something
that was like made me feel good because it gave
me like an internal confidence that I could do this.
Then it's in a hood too, like all the hood
motherfucker's coming out here and all the old heads and

(38:50):
they and they respecting you and taking you in. So
me getting in a position of being somebody that people
look up to like it's like mandatory for me to
do it, because it's like, you never know that one
kid that's sitting in here, I could be his hope,
just to want to make it out, you know what
I mean. It's motherfuckers in here who probably never even
been to the Stables Center, you know what I mean
being able to see a basketball game. They can come

(39:13):
out here for free and watch me play like it's
something I take serious too, you know what I mean.
I remember, I remember I brought one of my old teammates.
I think it was Jared Jay. I think I brought
him playing to Julieu one one time with me years ago.
In the middle of the game, I think we was
about to get in I'm about to get a fight
with somebody and all this. Jack leaned over and said,

(39:33):
why are you taking this ship so serious? And to me,
it's like, Yo, this ship is serious to me. You know,
it's like it's like my rep on the line for here,
Like I don't play around with this so like that's
why when you see me playing it, like I take
I take that ship.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's that's why I ain't never play I take it.
It's heavy, like even even out of the day, like
I'm hooping out of the day.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
It's like, you know, niggas on the other team talking shit,
and it's like, you know, I don't look at it
like nigga, you know who the fuck I am? Like, yeah,
talk your ship, but I'm I'm gonna show you why
I come here all the time, you know for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Man, It's crazy because like y'all don't have some moments
in there, but one I don't think get spoken enough.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I think it was maybe last year before that, bro,
you and Brian Yeah on the NBA ad.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, we all watched the Kobe We all watched. But
to see that happen in the progression of the drill
for y'all had that moment, that's hard. It inspires people outside,
like everybody looked at like we can't wait to see that.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah, and that it was crazy, Like even shout out
to Bron doing that. You know, he definitely a real
one for that because you know, he hit me like
it was the middle of the night, probably like it
was like a week before I had I had played
in and Brian had hit me. Was like, man, what's
up when you're playing and Drew again, I'm like next week,
I'm like fucking come fuck me, like come fuck with me.
So all right, man, I'm gonna come fuck with you.

(40:52):
So I'm thinking like he probably forget that, he got busy.
It was like a night before that. The following week,
it's like we're time to get blah blah blah. Alright,
bet I'm pulling up and I think I had tweeted
like Debo and like the Crown or whatever. Pulled up
and just to see how like electrified the city was. Bro,
just to see like little like my thing. I'm big

(41:12):
on looking in the crowd and seeing like kids reaction,
you know what I mean, seeing those like like like
like they've just seen a ghost. Like to me, that's
the ship that makes it feel like, Yo, this ship
is always bigger than basketball because these these kids carrying
this shit like forever, you know what I mean, Like
they're gonna remember this moment. And for Bro to do that, man,

(41:35):
that shit was like that shit was amazing, you know
what I mean, especially like, you know, shit twenty years
in years, four years, how big is to come out
there in the in the hood and who and the
game was cracking too, Like it was like they took
us down to the wire like they was out there
talking shit all that. So, man, that shit was a

(41:57):
probably you know, my second favorite fame favorite mote moment
outside of when Cole play Cob always gonna be my
number one whenever.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
But what when Brian did that ship man? That ship
that was some real ship man.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Let me ask you this then, because I remember I
said that I said something out of pocket about Cold,
because I said what I say.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
James, Remember said James Harden was better.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I said, James Harden scored a little better than Cold
was out of pocket.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
No, like James Harden scored that most. I've told somebody
this multiple times. The run James had, it's crazy. Come on, bro,
The run James had was fucking like that ain't even
a video game.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Was crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
That ship was like some fucking like space jam. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
I mean, because like if you didn't watch the game,
you just knew when you checked the box score it
was gonna be something fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Forty forty forty five.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Fifteen to sist ten rebounds Like that run he had, Bro,
that ship was fucking incredible, and how he did it.
The ship looked like it was with no effort.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
That's what I was saying.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
You see what I'm saying, So I got what you
was coming from from. From from that standpoint, I think
people react people's people is just so sensitive when it
comes to like certain people, certain ship. You really just
sit and think. Bro, that run James had BRO was
the most incredible ship like we we I ever seen.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Like it was crazy.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
He would just literally come down court by by by
three five step three by by by hes he it
was it was fire like come on like it was incredible.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
And don't forget Nigga was winning fifty games in the West,
in the West, and that's crazy who he was going against.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
He had to go against that prime warrior situation and
he was still going crazy.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Going Bro, that's the only thing I said. But I
got killed for that. But I think Kobe is phenomenal.
Like it's nothing like I know to love you and
respect you for coch but I just at that moment,
I'm like, what I had to play against James Bro
that but that that ship was different.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, Bro, that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Like it just like listen, you said, Kobe is my
goat all that everything, but it's like it's real, is real?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
The ship James was doing. I don't think we ever
see that. All you want, we.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
They try to they try to erase it with with Luca.
Obviously we know Luca, he liked it. But I'm like, nah, bro,
James had to do that against teams in the West
one it was I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Them teams in the Rockets weren't that great. It was
a lot of James, Harden and everybody else just kind
of saying the corners of these series that man was on.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
When I see when I seen somebody reguards to him
and stand behind him.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Stand behind gas, behind their back, I said, I don't
know what the is going on right here?

Speaker 3 (44:58):
This is bad basketball.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
But he that special where you can't even't know what
to do. Yeah, like you gotta go. I don't. I'm
trying something totally different. I'm just staying behind you. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Speaking on COVID, did you pull some of your feetwork
from him?

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Yeah, I definitely got a lot of that came through
through conversations with him of just breaking down like he
was a big soccer fan, so he used to always,
you know, incorporate how soccer players move, how to use
their footwork to get leverage, quickness, and he always used
to tell me to watch you know, certain players like

(45:33):
you know, I came obviously the way he moved, but
also like the smaller guards, like like a fucking like
Andre Miller for example, you know what I mean, legend
not the fastest, not can't jump the highest then that,
but he knew how to maneuver in small places to
be able to get a shot off or get to
the bucket and everything.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
So I used to I used to start.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
I started paying attention to like a lot of of
the D and them players in a sense that you know,
probably don't have the big notoriety as everybody else, you
know what I mean. And took a lot of stuff
from him. Another person who helped me with my fullwork
shit was like Sam could sell you know what I mean.
When I was fifteen, like used to be around Sam,

(46:16):
and Sam always used to preach to me about certain
ways how to shoot the turn around, how to get
your feet leverage a certain type of way, you know
what I mean. Learn from him, and learn from fucking
Catino Mowgli how to get your shots, you know what
I mean. It's certain players that I took so much from,
like incorporated. But Cole wasn't one to put the like

(46:37):
the the notion in it too. You know you master this,
Like basically, he always used to tell me, learn how
to play in a phone booth.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (46:47):
If you could be if you know how to master
how to create shots from a phone booth, you're good,
you know what I mean. So he used to talk
a lot of fucking codes. He used to take some
time to figure out. But when I figure it out
and the light bulb off, I know I had something.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, they don't just spoken enough. How good your footwork is?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
So I had to ask.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
And that's the fire part. When you hear players like
you and your caliber speaking like you. When you hear
people like yeah, it's cool to but like now, but
you always speak on the players like okay, everybody may
not speak on his name, but like I learned something
from this player that's pivotal to my game.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
That's like Tony Parker. His footwork was crazy. It's crazy,
but it's like my hole on and off the court.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
No, no, it's just just on the court. On the court,
shout to TP.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
I learned from all the motherfuckers, man, Like I really
became like a student of the game and just watch
motherfuckers rather if it was a slow motherfucker fast mouth
quick and just try to take take ship from him
from him and try to incorporate it, you know, into
my game.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
You one of the best scores, like you, like we're
talking about phone booth scores, like you mellow on those guys, Kobe,
Like y'all can get y'all shot off at any point,
Like I always say that, Like that's why I said
when we was gonna play, gonna send doubles. But it
was like, it don't matter where you at on the floor.
I know you can get a shot off, like that's

(48:07):
you know, but you it's never a shot clock violation.
Like with me, I used to get shot ced like you.
I'm like, he ain't getting no shot clock violets. You
know how to get a shot off, That's that's like
tough to do. That's what I think about you, James.
Same thing with Melo cole kd y'all le scores. Like
when I hear people talking about one of the least

(48:28):
scores in the league, your name should be talking about
a lot more.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
I appreciate that because you know it's definitely one thing,
like you know that you know, they get overlooked for
whatever reason, you know what I mean. I heard somebody
on the podcast say some ship I wouldn't to score
and all this, and it's just like, you know, it's like,
come on, how many points you up? It's only probably
I think thirty people in the history basketball got more
points than me.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
So it's like, come on, balance me, like you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
So it's like, you know, it's it's one of those
things like when it comes to it, like you just
check the facts on.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
It, you know what I mean, when it comes to that,
and that's crazy thing to say about you. Yeah, I
put that up. That's why I'm he's buckets around, you
know what it is. That's the crazy ship to say
about Broun. It's like, Broun don't really score, bro, he
got the most buckets ever. How you're gonna say the
nigga not to score. He got the most buckets ever.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
People just say that just it's just show me how
stupid they are, you know what I mean, Like, come on, man,
you get buckets, bro, that's you got buckets your whole career.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Though it ain't like it's just ain't like you always
that's the ship that throws me off, like y'all like
like it's something new, like you always got buckets. Like
it's kind of funny when I because when I heard
somebody said on the podcast, I was like, huh, like
come on if you would to say, yo, he don't
pass like you don't get assists like that.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I'm like, when you're gonna look at the status, it's like,
how bro, you know how people play in this league?
And he so he topped in the league like.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Like it didn't even want like I couldn't even like
comment on it.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
I just thought it was like it was beyond funny
to me, Like it's just like I guess anybody with
a microphone can say whatever whatever they want to these day.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
That was crazy your bucket.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I gotta ask, how was that transition going from Toronto
to San Antonio?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Man, it was.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Tough because obviously everybody know like I wanted to be there.
I wanted I wanted to stay there everything you know, ship,
you know, that was that was home. So you know,
getting traded the way with down, you know, that part
hurt more than anything. Then you know, when I finally
calmed down and realized, like, shit, I'm going to San Antonio.

(50:49):
Damn what they say about City Born blah blah blah.
It's like, yeah, I'm playing for Pop. It's her like
fucking coach Pop, Like you know what I mean? And
what's crazy? When I got traded, I didn't talk to
nobody for like fucking two weeks. I wouldn't answer my phone.
I was mad as shit, like I'm I was. I
was in my feelings. I was like, man, I was,

(51:10):
I was. I was hurt and I ain't gonna lie.
But Pop had called me out the blue and just
was like, look, we didn't trade you.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
We traded for you.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Like and when I let let that sink in, I'm like, god, damn,
he got a fucking point like all right, Like and
just to like be underneath Pop, to hear like the
game from him, the way he just took me in
and accepted me more than just a basketball player, like
to help with the transition, Like I like, I cherished

(51:40):
that shit forever, man, because it was something I needed
in my career at the time, because I'm looking you know,
I'm looking at the game one way my whole time,
and you know, my nine years in Toronto, I'm thinking, just,
you know, just go out there, shoot the ball thirty times,
try to get a win.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
If I don't, if I don't, if I shoot bad,
at least I try.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
With Pop, it was more so like how can you
make everybody else around you better and with that make
it easier on myself. So Pop always used to tell me,
give me three and a half quarters of playing this way,
the rest is you. And with that it made the
game more fun because now I'm getting everybody involved, making
it easier doing this. But when it was time to win,

(52:23):
it was like, go win the game, you know what
I mean. And it gave me a different outlook on
just how to incorporate use the game, use your teammates,
get everybody involved, and find the rhythm of the game
that way. Like my first my first shoot around with Pop,
I remember he said, man, tomorrow, you the point guard.

(52:43):
I ain't never played point guard day in my career,
and it's like he telling me I'm the point guard.
But I think that whole week, I think I averaged
like like damn near thirteen fourteen assists, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
But he'd do shit like that to challenge you to
show you that you can do it, you know what
I mean, and that that was something definitely needed for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
You heard a lot of good reviews from players about
coach Propert. Then it's so dope to see now like
he got wimby. Yes, like we know he's gonna be
for sure anyway, but he got popped. Like he's the
next superstar for sure.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
For sure, he definitely gonna learn. I mean, you see
it now, even just how he was playing the Olympics,
like the way he played in the championship game, you
know what I mean, Like he's still a kid, bro,
But I guarantee you he was on the phone with
Pop that night this you know what I mean, Pop
giving him some type of you know, inside and knowledge
on how to carry that. Now, watch how he beat
this year.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
It's about to get spooky. And he got feet on there.
Yeah spoky, bros. Yeah, this shit looked like a video game. Nah, bro,
Like I've never like we played them this year. I
swear I had a drive to the lane. He I'm
on one side of the key, he on the other side.
I stopped for the layup and pulled it back out.

(53:57):
He was on the other side of the key. He
wasn't even like but I just knew he had the
recovery length to be able to fucking block whatever I
throw up. Crazy, I'm talking about you. You just looking
in an eye, Bro, you gonna know like he he
gonna be one of.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
The ones for sure. Oh yeah, we never seen nothing
like him? No, hell no like KD.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
What I seen KD I was I've never seen nothing
like seven can do all that stuff. He four or
five inches tall and KD.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
What a handle.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Obviously you are student in the game. Who are some
of the young players in the league that you know
what I'm saying? Take a notice or take a liking too.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
That's a hell of a question because I think you know,
like how young are you talking? Like? Whatever?

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Whoever, let's do John, Okay, Like those guys, I think
they're gonna carry this lead to you know where it
needs to be. You know what I mean when you
look at the job the Lucas, it's all those guys
they like beyond special man, Like you know, I'd be glad.
I'd be glad when you know John get back healthy,
he get back on the floor, because you know, the

(55:05):
game is that much more exciting when those when those
players are healthy, you know what I mean, Like, you know,
I hate that he wasn't out there to do, you know,
to be a part of you know, all this, Like
it's it's amazing to see just being a fan of
like all these guys that come in to lead that
you know, you see him as kids one year and
the next year fucking you know, they hold swag change

(55:27):
you see, you know what I mean, They carrying their.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Their own aura.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
So you know, my favorite players is obviously like John
Luca fucking you know, I don't know if JT is
Jason still a fucking and.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
That's one of my favorites.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
And from Compton Listen, I don't know him personally like that,
but the times I didn't play it. I remember I
played against ant this year and like the dog he
got in him. I remember jump ball, He's still right
next to me. He he guarded me. I'm like, yo,
Like he take on all these fucking challenges and I

(56:05):
respect that from a young and like that, you know
what I mean, Like like you see the dog in
him and obviously you see it with the Olympic team and.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
What he gonna be come next season. Is like that ship.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
I know what playing in the Olympics do for a
player like that, shit takes you to a whole another
level mentally, physically, emotionally, like you feel like you that
especially being around them those other eleven guys. So like
those like definitely and one of my favorites. So I
think those guys gonna carry the league to where it
needs to be for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Man, you know what I'm saying. Obviously, you know a
new situation is summer Congress on that as well. Appreciate
you're playing with another young dog as well. I don't
know if it's too young the Fox.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah, I mean that was part of the reason, you know,
even making making that decision the Fox. In my career.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Man, they do that fast listen, fastest ship, fastest ship.
Like he put me on the bench.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Man. See, that's the first time I said, you know,
I think I want to come off the bench.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
They want to come against man. I was like, yeah,
I think we'll come off the bench. I was like, yeah, Minnesota,
I think you could probably start Jones.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Nah, yeah, I think that situation, you know, I came.
It came out of nowhere after you know, season was over,
when free agency hit. You know, I know it was
a bunch of other options, but you know, when I
just sat back and like realized, like, you know, what
the team needed, what they had, what they was fighting for,
and how bad they want to win, you know, it
just fit the mold that you know, I want to

(57:38):
be a part of. And you know, just being able
to play with those guys, you know, I'm looking forward
to it. You know, a monk, sir, hurry. You know,
it's it's a lot of it's a lot of those
guys that that that's special, you know, and and I
really want to be a part of that. I feel like,
you know I could, I definitely can help. When did
your game start transitioning? Because to me, I could be wrong,

(58:01):
but I feel like when you first came to the league,
he was a high flyer.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
I was, yeah, and then you turned it. I'm not
saying you dumbed your game down, but you brought to
like ship, I'm gonna shoot these minies and when what
you're that like, I'm abo to stop dunking on niggas
because I'm trying to I ain't trying to be like
Jeff T and these be all fucked up wanted to
keep going years and years.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
You know what I mean? What's what's crazy? Twenty thirteen?
No shame he trying to dunk on everybody. Jeff had
hots my life like motherfucker, you.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Know what I'm saying. But he didn't want to stop.
He didn't know he was a jabblwalking through his whole career.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (58:45):
What's crazy? That's a great question. Twenty thirteen. I had
tored my growing I like off the bone. It was
like six six, seven games in the season. I just
trying to turn the corner with the ball slipped toward
my whole groun, and like I was so worried because

(59:06):
I'm like, man, we're finally getting good. I think the
year before I had made All Star. So I'm like, man,
funk I'm trying to do. I didn't want to be
a one time All Star type of nigga, you know,
like like.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
To tell your story. I know niggas gonne share the shark,
tell your side of the story.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
This is about the ad.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Come on, man, tell your story.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
I'm bad, jam bad, Bro, my bad. I ain't I
didn't even think about it, bro.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Listen. That was funny, that's good. I didn't want to
be a one time All Star.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
At the time, I was so thirsty, like I was
so mad at getting hurt to where it was like
six seven game in the season. So when I tore
my growing, I'm thinking they talked about surgery and all
this shit. So I'm like, man, hell no, I ain't
trying to miss the season all this shit, so I'm
doing it whatever I possibly can to see how fast

(01:00:27):
I could get back. So I ended up doing like
the PRP shit, you know, rehab. I think I missed
twenty two games. So I kind of rushed myself back,
thinking like, fuck it, I can still make All Star.
We still was winning, let me, let me get back
out here and started killing. So when I started back playing,
I wasn't right for that next probably like two years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Nobody knew.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I never said nothing, so that made me scared to
jump run fast, and that's when I started paying attention
to theygas like fucking Joe Johnson, fucking I remember. I
remember during that time, I sat there and watched those
two years of Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards. I said, oh,

(01:01:10):
I swear to god, I watched Jordans every game Jordan
played in a Wizard jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I'm like, yo, this.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
They said both his knees was fucked up, he couldn't move,
blah blah blah. So I'm I'm watching him from the
standpoint of like, how is he doing? What he doing?
He's still averaging twenty plus, still getting forty, but he
not yoused. He not athletic no more. He not the
old Jordan. So I watched so much in him. So
when I came back and started playing, I try to

(01:01:36):
play more that way to where I started to kind
of like master playing that way. And by the time
I got more healthy, my athletic ability and all that
was in case of emergency.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
So he's listening. He was watching niggas jump off the
rope and w w he watching the real field.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
I want to enjoy my life. I like wrestling and ship.
He watching m J. I don't thought m J was
done looking at.

Speaker 7 (01:02:07):
Different I'm done. I'm looking like Jordan. He looking at
the footwork.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Crazy now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
But I wanted to talk about because I always want
I'm bro. I'm a fan bro for real. So I
watched everybody talk so highly of you, like Kobe White,
no younger Dayling Terry talk about how the leader you
was in Chicago, and it's like damn to hear him
speak about you like that, Like, bro, Tuck is under
his wing. He talks the ropes and didn't see like
Kobe White, you know, had an up and down for

(01:03:00):
and then you get there and all sudden you see
him start growing and becoming basically to me, he's gonna
be one another star.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I see, I see him being an All Star. This
shit no question for me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
It got to a point to when I start realizing,
like you know, I'm I'm getting older, especially when motherfucker
started calling me old head.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Damn shit, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
That's why I started like I was dodging that ship
for for a long time, like niggas calling me o
g oh yeah, like until like I just finally like
accepted it in a sense to where it's like, y'all,
I really fuck with these young dudes, bro, because it's
like I really won't. I really want to see everybody
be successful and win, you know what I mean, Like
think about it, bro, Like sometimes I have moments where

(01:03:43):
I just sit up here and be like I'm from compting.
I damned there made three hundred million dollars from playing basketball, damn,
you know what I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Mean, Like like they're like that ship. Let me.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
It's like it's like when I have those moments and
think about it, it's like, how how much of everything
I learned, the fails, the success, and everything that I
could give to these young guys that probably don't know it,
you know what I mean, the good the bad on
and off the court. And I really I really put
my all into all my teammates that I play with,

(01:04:24):
all these young dudes, because you know, I remember being
so blind when I was young, not knowing you know shit,
I remember I was a motherfucker going to the hotel room,
order fucking chicken tenders and wings and call it a
night to where it's like evens even now, it's like
I take all these young dudes to go eat at
these restaurants so they can see and understand something different.

(01:04:45):
It ain't just hotel food that you can eat, you
know what I mean? Like I try to like expose
them to so much more that the world have to offer.
Don't just be stuck in this one place. And you know,
once you free up a motherfucking mind to that aspect.
It helps them with the confidence to help them with
the preparation. Especially with me, It's like all these all

(01:05:05):
these young niggas everybody I play with, see me after
a game if we on the road, first thing I do,
I get on the phone with my kids.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I'm talking to my kids, hearing about my kids. They
doing this. I'm showing them the responsibilities.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
I still take take care of it on a daily
base and still be the first one on the bus,
still be the first one in the meeting, first one
in the gym, doing all this. And it's like any
any logical person who sees that will understand, like, damn,
that's that's thinking about it. Bro, I'm going to six
year sixteens crazy like still doing it to this level. Like,

(01:05:41):
you gotta be consistent. So I try to give the
game to all these youngins as best as I can. Bro,
You not every single day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
You're doing a hell of a job.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
To see I'm just what I'm watching them as players grow,
and it's like, and they giving you that credit, It's like, damn,
BRO figured it out. But then to see your game though,
like to see you when we first in the league
to where you are now, You're like, yeah, he put
in the work and that time, and like you said,
three hundred million, they pay off, Bro, that work and
to see I know what you're gonna do in Sack

(01:06:10):
with that same group, with them young guys who they
got a great team, You're gonna do the same thing.
I see him having another great year and making some
noise in the West, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
It's crazy more years in the league, Bro, like for sixteen,
but we can see you playing another five six years
level Like, that's the dope part about it and everything
that we learned. I think the best part that we
get to meet people and you see the difference of
people who pouring too that team. That's the points it
showing people more this outside of that. Those are the
ones you see that get the respect they get to
their careers and others kind of more sage. It's like,

(01:06:41):
all right, the kind of fall by the wayside. So
it all makes sense, man, it all makes sense for me.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
Like, Bro, I always told myself, like, fuck the media,
fuck with people p and a gotta say after games
and all this. I always took the heart like if
my my peers respect me, all that matters. You feel
me like that's the only thing that matters as long
as I could walk in the gym and motherfuckers know, like, man,
like I fuck with d R D. Man, he gonna

(01:07:07):
compete or you gotta bring it like that's that's what
matters to me the most.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
You got that for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Off basketball a little bit, man, I want to ask
you about Kendrick Ryan Man, what you're thinking about the
he came back, He put the city back, I mean
the head man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I know, Drake your guy, but yeah, but I think
you know, even not my guy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
But I think for me being on the inside, it's
never like it's not a surprise for me, right, I mean,
like it's it's like like I see Bro or talk
to Bro, like it's it's a normal thing, you know.
So it's like when you know a person and it's
like he he probably somewhere sitting in the room with

(01:07:53):
sage lit right now, not knowing what the fuck is
going on on the outside world of things, you know
what I mean, because he just he in tune or
whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
He like he living his life, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
So like as a fan, you know, you you hype
to see it, But from my standpoint, you know, like, no, bro,
that's that's that's bro. So it's like when you see him,
it's kind of like you know, you see j T
go who in a Big Three, and it's like you're
really not surprised, you know he yeah, you know what

(01:08:23):
I like. So it's really not a surprise if you
go see him fucking going out there killing motherfucker's in
the Big Three, it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Did you know he was gonna be a star or
had a feeling before, because of course you heard he
always was like different in ahead of his time and
and kind of like was a visionary with how he
approached and looked looked at things, you know what I mean,
And he always had that and a lot of times
I think as as just like a man.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
You see the growth and the failures that he he
took and had to accept and grow from, not just
fuck it just being about the rap part of it,
you know personally, you know, and you see the growth
in an individual, and you know, like we all know
he nice when it comes to you know, rapping, but
you know you've seen the growth from it, and you
know he put it in his art, you know what

(01:09:11):
I mean. I know a lot of people you know,
want to hear more from him all that, but to him,
it's like, you know, he put his life, he put
his life out there for us to understand, and sometimes
niggas got to go through ship to be able to put,
you know, our life out there and speak about some ship.
So to me, it's just like, you know, it's cool
to see him out there, but it's more so like

(01:09:34):
cool just to see him, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
And in the in the hill space mentally, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Is that first album Top five.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
The first one one?

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
Yeah, yeah, good, but that even that, it's like that's
such a storyline of you know what I mean, you
inside like so you do, but it's like that album.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Like the breakdown of it, it's like you walk Street.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
So it's like like vision and ship like when I
hear it, like I know exactly, like it's certain ship
he even say where it's like I may get it
more than everybody else, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
But it's like it's definitely in my definitely my tip five.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
What was that like though at that concert, Like yeah,
like you all y'all on stage, y'all on the whole
cality together.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
I mean, it was one of those things. I know,
people get so caught up and looking at the whole
beef part of it and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
It's bigger than that though.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
It's so much bigger than that, because like it's a
lot of those dudes I know had problems with another dude,
this hood, didn't get along with this hood, or or
it was it was some type of tension or friction,
or you haven't seen these sets of people around, this
set of people in X amount of time, and for

(01:10:52):
it to be a moment to be able to share
be shared in LA in the forum, to bring out
all of artists from like you know, from home, to
do that with no problem, no issues. Everybody get in
there with no arguments, no fights, no scuffles lead there,
everybody get home. It was like it was just a

(01:11:13):
different type of fucking like appreciation for one another, you
know what I mean. I know it's so easy to
get caught up in the whole beef part of it
and all that, but for us, it's just like it's
bigger than that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Music, if music could bring us together, it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
Just show you how powerful we are as people that
if we just put all the fucking egos and all
that sensitive ship to the side, like we really could
come together and do something special, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
That was a moment too man like not even.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
To do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Brow lights get niggas that can go crazy in the
city like there to Toronto, bro, but that ain't speak even.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
That, Like just how great the I know it's so
easy when people get caught up in the size and
all that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
But it's like, I don't think Drake.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Still the phasing ship that Drake then did over what
the last fifteen years, nothing nothing could ever take.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
That away, you see what?

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Like I know, like I said, it's always easy when
I look at it from be honest with you, I
look at all this ship like I really come from,
like the hood I come from, like niggas losing their
life over some dumb shit over dice games, Like I
didn't have an uncle get killed by that was a
blood that got killed by a crypt. Another uncle that
was a crypt that got killed by blood and like it,

(01:12:41):
and it fucked up my whole like childhood upbringing to
where it's like y'all letting songs divide and create and
make people so sensitive to where it's like to me
it's like, come on, man, like we it's like watching
a fucking action packed movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Nobody really, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
To me, I hated how it started because they're just
two totally different artists. To me, I didn't I get Drake,
and really it's just Kendrick, like you said, it really
comes from kind of more respected.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Yeah, but it's like, I think you can't just never
discredit like Drake. Drake. Drake is like Drake. You was
in the city when Drake.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
Really, yeah, I see, yeah, I've seen from from the
beginning to to so where is it the star?

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
You know, Like, I don't think it will ever be
another Drake. That's just that's just what it is, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
And ain't nobody ever fought against that many people bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Drake him, Kendrick him.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
To the end of the day, it just comes down
to being that, like both of them the big dogs
at what they do, and why about that being respected?

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Everybody got spared one day. But that's list.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
Hey, in my neighborhood, the two toughest niggas have to
get down. One gotta lose. That don't make them less
than the other one, you know what I mean, It's
just be more respected because ain't nobody else gonna get
down with one of these one of them niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
That's just so. That's that's my view.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
Everybody who don't come from the streets or understand the
street part of it may not look at it like that.
It may getting their feelings or be sensitive about certain ship.
For me, I look at all this ship, like bro,
ain't nobody hurt this ship?

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
This is it was good watching fucking the matrix. See
I told you about Lebron and Brownie. This is the matrix.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Man, let's get up before Now that's hard. I think
it's dope and ship right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
What you think about like seeing bron I got the
upmost respectful bron but be able to see his son
in the league with them play on the same team that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
You know how the league work. Yeah, it's gonna be
a moment where Bronni and Broun in the game, but
the same time he's starting. I ain't say he's starting,
but it's gonna be a moment.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I told everybody it's gonna be a highlight or little
bron You're gonna throw brown alive and the ships gonna
go crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
That's gonna be everywhere. You know it's gonna happen though,
right for sure, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
What I'm hoping. I'm watching a game with me too.
I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna recorded.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
I don't want it to be against the Kings, but
it's definitely a moment like come on, bro, like damn
with everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
None of us never seen no ship like that, so
for to be an opportunity for that to happen. Ship,
if I had a son, I want like if my son,
if my son, now, if my my son two years old,
so you cook, But if I had my son was
in that position, I will I will want the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
For sure. They do nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I gotta start having kids at fourteen that we ain't
pushing that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
But if you're trying to leave, what a good circle, man.
We're about to get the fuck up out of here. Man,
biged out. We appreciate you sliding on this man, best
of luck this season. Were definitely gonna be watching the Kings.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Be here. Tell the people that can grasp and march at.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Shop Club five twenty dot com. Baby, were out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Thanks, you know what it is. Club five twenty The
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