July 3, 2025 • 61 mins
We’re back with Season 3, Episode 74 of Club 520, where Fat Joe joins Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen for an interview you won't want to miss! Fat Joe talks about Jalen Brunson and the 2025 New York Knicks playoff run, and why that moment was EVEN CRAZIER than Jeremy Lin's Linsanity era in Knicks history. Plus, Joey Crack talks Kevin Durant hooping at Rucker Park, the INSANE origin of his hit song "Make it Rain," and tells some memorable stories about Stephen Jackson, Mike Bibby, and Anthony Morrow. And don't miss Fat Joe talk about the time he was "kidnapped in Africa!"
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. All right, man, we're back. Love of my location.
Man w n YC with a legend. Man, it's only right.
We're gonna introduce him last. But like I said, I'm
the host. My name is DJ Wells. Same game with me.
To my far left, we got my dog. BI should
be hearing out the pearls. How you were nasty, chill
and nasty.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Let's get to a baby, glad. We got my guy
in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Come off, listen. He got a uniform today, Joe. But
his signature is he wear the black ups with the
white laces. You're the man with the shoes. Have you
ever seen all black forces with the white lacest before?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Seen him in every way. I'm not mad at that.
I wouldn't wear black laces with him either. I would
wear white laces. That's how I do it.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
The shoe got himself. He usually had on the spiel
with white laces.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Now you're not fucking with them?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
What about the black uh fives with thee with the
white lake.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
He's taking an MJ. Did it to school, but would
be here to do today. Okay? Respect respect still to
my right, my dog young, not your young tea. You
got you what, man, I'm chilling, bro. I'm happy to
be here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Y'all know, thised my favorite guest because either reason I
ever collected shoes or I wanted to be rich. So
I'm happy about this. I got a story. I always
tell stories on the show. Obviously he was on MTV Cribs. Yeah,
you licked the shoe or whatever, and I was like, shit,
he got all them shoes. I need that kind of life.
But it was another one. You had a white g
wagon and you called it the snack box something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I just had a whole bunch of h whites. It's
a go for store to store just buying, of course sneakers,
but just boxes of Air Force ones white on whites,
just like Yo, give me your forty eight peg, give
me your twenty four peg, give me your A's what
you talking about? One time we did that on camera. Well,
(01:59):
I was going to different stores around the Bronx. But uh,
speaking of that, the new Kobe's are real dope, the
air Force but the strings are like old school big.
But I think I'm gonna find some less fat laces,
same color. That's what I'm gonna do to those stats
because them because them fat laces. You know I grew
(02:22):
up in the fat lace. You're really old with the
fat laces.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
What I'm saying, come.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
On, man, listen, we are blessed to have a legend.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He had us at his home up n YC.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
If you ain't tapped in tap in, we got the
legend Man Culture, Rap Sports Now Podcasting got the great
Fat Joe to billing the Big Dog. We appreciate you having.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The circ I'm happy to be here, man. What's going on?
What's going on? Y'all? Brought the rain? Oh no, don't
do that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We'll try with the rain. Might bring the thunder your rain.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So we can't talk about tonight's game, right, or we
do whatever we want to? Well, what do you think
I think Indiana pulls off tonight?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Come on, man.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The pacer of me is praying we get a game seven,
but the realism is it could get wicked. Shouts to
my boy ty race Man. Hopefully by the time this
y'all see this. You know what I'm saying. We don't
got the chip anyway, but I hope he can play
because if he don't, it can get wicked. Yeah, you
know that calf injury that leads to the half and
get wicked. Man, it's a tough injury. I don't see
him having a good game to night if that calf
(03:20):
injury is anything serious.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
M M. I mean that's a tough way to play. Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
No, it is.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But you know me, uh, being that we're talking mostly sports,
h I never been the guy to hate on the
team because they beat my team. Like Paul Is he was,
He's he's the truth, but he was looking real fake
when the Knicks beat Boston.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He was trolling us.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I never been that guy. Like I actually been
going for Indiana and in this finals.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Got the staff.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know, I just go for who I like.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm like bitter and I hate you because you beat
us and stuff. Even though I did hate Reggie Miller
my whole life.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I did, I did, I did, Bro.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
It was he was really like and we talk about
all the time. He was like Reggie Miller, I mean
Michael Jordan in our city, like he was everything to us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know what I'm saying, everything.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
In this city.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Set it down.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And he said, do you feel awkward about calling the game?
He said, I've been owning this city for the last year.
Reggie talks did you.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Ever make it any of those games?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Early in all those games?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So he was there when the squad on buckets.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And it wasn't at that game because I probably had
like a show with something. But I'm not saying I'm
courtside all those games. You know, when Larry Johnson hit
that this four point play, I was in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know who?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I was in the crowd with Ai so A. I
was up in New York. We went to the game together.
We was like third row or something like that. Oh on,
hold on your third row, stird roll me and no,
I'm being honest. We went to the game last minute.
(05:14):
We bought some seats off the scalpers walked up in there.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's what they had. That was the best ship they
had out there.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So was some cool seats or don't do that? What
was gonna talk to you? Was it cool seats?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Or we went to the Pacer game the other day
and we were scared the post because of what you said.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
They had a should be we would saying there.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
We were never they was. I was in the sweet
but never in my life.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I won't do it. It was in general pop we
enjoyed the game. I get it. I'm just saying the
best fans right though, not down on the floor. You
get really experienced up on that.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I left one hundred two hundred level.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
He left the hand. You ain't want to do that.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And I know him now way better. And uh shout
out to him and his wife. They my neighbor's down
in Miami. But your mom man's burn.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He don't remember this.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I met him one time back in the day when
he was the start of heat, and he invited me
in the game and threw me in the upper decks,
gave me a ticket upper deck. When I say I
might have been there two seconds, I was like, I'm
thinking he was the star of Miami at the time.
They were like, no, sir, seventh floor. When I went
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up there, I was like, oh no, he got me
all the way fucked up, Like I never brought it up.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
A man. He did me.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Filthy. Now I'm bragging, y'all, I met your mom man's burn. Y'all,
y'all see set the game. I ain't know if it's
gonna be courts out of dot, but I pray every
time when I say courtside, because I remember when I
used to sit up in the last he used to
see Michael Jordan this little playing against the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So I appreciate it. I'm beyond grateful. What's the best
game you've been to at the guard and would be that?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
It would be the Larry Johnson that was like that
was like we was like engine engine number nine.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Big it up, big it up.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Like that whole fucking arena just exploded when he hit
that shot.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
At the same time, that shit was like synchoinized fanning.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Did you ever go to the games when Jamie Lynn
was here? I went to all those games.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
They did him dirty like he was supposed to be
a nick all the way.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Can you please tell him how many cameras was at
the game for him?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yo? It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm gonna tell you something, Jeremy lynn h lynsanity was.
It was such a spascio special uh moment in the
history of the next He don't get enough.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Credit he that boy, you know how right?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I used to play pickup basketball and sometime I
used to wish the Holy Spirit was in the cause
you see some players when they play, they say, Yo,
the basket look this big. I never got that, but
I prayed for it, like I be in the game,
like yo, I just want to go. Will they give
(08:34):
me one time to dumb out in here and just
shoot it from all over and everything going. I've seen
it happen for Calick. We played a celebrity basketball game
at Brooklyn and he was spinning and getting them in
and shooting them for more. I've seen him catch the
Holy Ghost.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I never caught it in basketball.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And so Jeremy Lynn had the whole league just couldn't
do nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And so I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Glad that the DNA and the.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Mindset of the Knicks is different. Now. You know they
reward you if you do good, they reward you.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
At that time, I was really furious as a fan,
and all I truly am is a fan. I'm just
I really have no opinion to sway James Dolan or
the Knicks or anybody like. Yeah, I'm just like a
fan like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Noah, for sure, I want to ask you a question
about that.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Take always say, no matter what if the Knicks were good, bad,
or different, the Gardener's always cracking. What was the crazier
moment the Lynn sanity run or the Eastern Conference finders run.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Nah, it's a comference, okay. He said the city was
going crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
They literally had That wasn't ai, guys, that wasn't fake.
They literally had one million people out in seven five
every game we won. We know what's one? Mayor and
New York cops. I don't know if you have ever.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Dealt with these guys.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I'm busting have they?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Thank god they fell back, which is impossible for New
York cops to fall back.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They were under strict orders to let them party.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
The kids was climbing on the top of the teletron
like they you know, it's a great time. Dolan came out,
I believe every night and handed the kid the game
ball like you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It was just a special time. We're coming back.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
We're coming back, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I like. I like Knicks fans though, because y'all rock
with our team. Regardless. We got a lot of we.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Got some solid fans for Shore back home, but it
took for us to win, for our whole city to
get behind.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The fair weather fans for short y'all behind the Knicks
no matter what. Yeah, you know too, Miami is like
that too.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
If they having a tough season, them seats to be empty,
but if they winning, then he gets crowded. Everybody want
to come out, show out for the city. So that's
that was part of my argument. So I lived in
Miami for twenty some years. Every night I'm in the
studio arguing with all of Miami Heat fans and they
killing me. It's like ten fifteen of them against me,
(11:19):
and I'm like, and we sucked. So it didn't help
for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now that listen, we always talk about shoots heavy on
the show.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
To you talk about the kid game Man a legend, legend,
he aspires, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I got to run it up and get that
heat fucks.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean from all the shoes from I remember the
Olympic seven, so he had a naving room on that
m TV crib.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That was crazy at the time.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, I was surprised you had them, like I had
never seen them at that time.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It's all like that.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Was crazy at the time. I got h you know,
I've had sneakers like Kanye sample got him from PJ.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Tucker.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
So I got him, and I got the infrared sample
which is leather.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Uh that I've.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Got Jordan's a pair of Jeordan's they made for prints.
It was called Candy rain and and it's all purple.
I've been getting off.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Eleven's.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I've been getting that ship, but it's like velvet. He
never got to wear it. But you know, I've been,
I've been. I've been. I've been dumping a couple of sneakers,
you know what I mean, because I just feel like
I'm just so, oh, what am I doing. I'm looking
at big money in the closet, and you know I
could do ship, like buy my mother a new house
(12:47):
with the ship, like you know, just do something with
the money. I'm looking at the ship like it's a museum,
you know. And I love it. I love the sneaky
culture all the way.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But when you get.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Into it, like me, like like the type of money
I've spent sneakers is historical, you know, Joe's always buying
my ship is about the way I designed my sneaker
closet is always for competition and beef. I'm waiting for
somebody who called me out so it could be like
(13:19):
you sunk my battleship.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
They bring the shit out.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I'm like, okay, well how.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
About this is the sample that they didn't do of
that sneaker. This is what it is. Hello.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So you come with some shit and you be like, yo,
this is the sample of this. I said, well, what
about the sample of that sample? And I bust that
bitch out and you're like, you're fucked.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'll be seeing you a mayor. So shout out to mayor.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
May is my brother. Shout out to the mayor.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
He's a shoe god. Rest in peace. H Clark camp
for another one after I eerror came while a little
yachty twenty one savage. They say he got an ill collection.
Offset got an ill collection? You all it compete with you?
(14:11):
He could now that I don't. He came to my house.
His ship was like the emoji. You know that he
can't wait.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He can get.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I threw my birthday party last year.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I usually always throw a big birthday party, and last year,
for some reason, I said, fuck it, I'm gonna throw
it home. You know, I'm a type of guy really
don't bring people to my house, you know, but I said,
fuck it, We're gonna throw a home. And we had
a party of a lifetime of Cali flew in for
that and I put him in that closet. That boy
walked out of there like dumb, dum dum dumb. He
(14:44):
was doing the ify he understood, like, oh no, this guy.
But he got ship. Cali got a lot of shit,
you know, Cali two witch, thank god Ala. He's just
way too rich. I don't know what the fuck he did.
Did he invest in the original big Coin? I don't understand.
(15:04):
I ask him all the time. He's my brother, my
best friend, Like, yo, you you would you cutins?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
What's going on? Really?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Why?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I know what's I know he's good, but I'm like,
you know, callen to do some ship where we'll go
to a restaurant and he'll be like, I want every day,
I mean everything right, So they'll bring out everything that's
on the menu. So you got a whole table. When
I say everything, if they have buttered rolls down to lobsters,
(15:36):
down the soups standard, they bring the whole shit out right.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
We would eat. It's only like three or four of
us we eat.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Then his wife come in with the kids, like an
hour later, she's late, and he'll be like, I need
everything again. I'm like, huh, my kids can't eat nothing cold.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Everything brand new. They bring all that shit again.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It was already abuse the first time, you know so,
and you know I work hard, man, I'm not starving,
you know. I put the numbers up and then when
I look at what he do, I'll be like, Yo,
this ship is like impossible, Like I don't know, shit
is like define gravity.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I know that's dope.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
You seeing him though sore like that because I know
that was a youngin you know what I'm saying, And.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
For sure I was definitely listening.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I'm happy I got to ask you to some person
because you made one of my favorite shoes ever.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm happy to have them all today.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What's the better feeling going out and hearing everybody play
the song that you made or seeing everybody outside wearing
your shoes?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
That is an incredible, incredible question, And to answer it's
just so similar, you know, because I was in I
was like in Dubai or something right when sneakers came out.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Sir, and the lines was all around it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
They So, first of all, I have the number one
selling air Force one for that year Nike. You don't
tell you the statistics, but that shit was sold out
ten to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It was sold out. Fuck America.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It was sold out everywhere, Dubai, China, wherever, and and
so I would watch i would get all these pictures
of random people online and I'm like, wow, they really
they really buying the sneaker man, you know it was
it was really special. Well it was really really really
(17:41):
special for somebody to buy a logo.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That logo come from my projects. You know what I'm saying.
We used to write graffiti.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
There's just such a huge history behind Terror Squad. You know,
not just as raped, you know, as a graffiti crew,
as a hip hop crew. So they shit is crazy.
But making a hit, you know, making a hit records
a miracle. Like if you want to have wonder, God
(18:09):
bless you because you found a way to get on
that red carpet. Some girls might have thought you was cute.
That normally don't think you cute. You made some money,
Your dream came true. In life, one of the most
incredible and most rewarding things is your dreams coming true.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And so you know, to see the sneaker is unreal.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
But making a hit record, you know, I have people
leaning back and I created that I said by people,
don't ask please.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
I'm saying out the Gate, did you think that record
was gonna be drop forty game like it's over?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Man.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
One thing I know, the only honest thing the record label,
the record labels ever told me was they say, you
are not Beyonce if you you don't not have multiple tries.
(19:17):
If you fail with the song, the album's over. So
they made me to train myself to not only make music,
but to hear music as if I'm a program director
for the radio or something. So that's why I kept
making hits because I only have one shot. Deal if
(19:37):
I if I, if I fumbled the ball, it was over.
So I had to hit every time. At one point,
I thought it was just a joke. At one point
I thought, like you talked about confident, like I thought
I I thought I.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Was that much of a hit maker that I thought.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You know what I'm saying, because for years I kept
coming with it to hit and hits everything. And that's
that's around the time I gave Jaru the New York
record because Jau and IRV Gotti definitely gave me What's Love?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I penned the verses and I did the bridge like
when they look at your rises, don't stopping me I
went the dog Ja we cracked and the lyrics. But
that record was a hit when I heard it. You
know what's crazy is when I heard it, I knew
it was a smash. I recently when when IRV Gotti died,
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I asked my wife, I said.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Because she went with me to the studio that night.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They called me like three in the morning, was like, yo,
come to studio that They was like on fire, and
uh so I asked her. I said, Yo, let me
ask you a question. You was with me tonight because
I know my story, my side of it. I always
tell it. And they was saying, how do you feel
when you heard that record? You know when we got
(20:57):
back in the car going up to the bars, she said,
I our life changed forever.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
She said, I knew that ship was a s mas
sman like.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
She was like, I knew, I knew we was up
and that that you know that that record got white
people to know Fat Joe. It was only black and
Spanish people knew Fat Joe before that. And and then
I took my ship off spring break, I went topless.
I'm the first fat nigga to go topless. Okay, don't
(21:26):
let Rick werelse tell you, don't let Cali, don't let none.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Loved well, none of peer. I went to.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
MTV oh Spring Break, Spring not before that, and I
came up there topless with the Fendi fir and man,
these white people, okay, because I was selling five thousand
a week, I knew the numbers, right, five thousand a week.
(21:57):
They showed that ship. Then I started watch it like
Saturday Night Live, Shit soap Box, the whitest shows in America.
There's this guy and they put an arrow on the
crack of my ass, you know what I'm saying, And
they be like.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
His name is Joey Crag.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
This guy's amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Shit saw going up ten thousand a week, twenty thousand
a week, and thirty thousand.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Like once they caught that, wats love, she.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Was out of here, double platinum, two million, and prior
to that, the only Latino solo artist whoever did that
was Big Punk. You know, we discovered punk rest in Peace,
so you know, we was putting that shit up park.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But to tell you about you know, when you.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
On a run, it's like if you talk comparing music
to basketball, the fucking rim was this big, Like I thought,
it's just everything you're making rain.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
If you think about how many people just say make
it rain, you the first to make it ran.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yes, No, no, I'm the first to quote make to
make that term. I made that term make it rain.
When I'm looking at the black panther and the dudes
chasing the black panther, he shoots in the air.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And the money goes and he goes, Hi, make it rain.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I'm like, Fuck, I'm watching bank commercials and they're like,
bake it rain and all type of shit.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I made that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I could tell you shout out to my man's stand
who's very successful in the hip hop game now, but
at that time he owned properties, he had nothing to
do with hip hop. And we was in Fort LAUDERDLLE
eating at a diner. He was like, Yo, man, I
went to the strip club last night. I really do
believe he was talking about BMF. He was like, Yo,
these guys is up in there before that. If you,
(23:47):
if you James, you went to a strip club, you
had a ten to twenty, you put it in the
girl's top, you put it in they past, nobody was
making it rain.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So I'm there with him and he's like yo oh.
He was like.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
He was like, Yo, some guys came in the club
last night and they was just throwing money in there,
and I was like, throwing money in it, Yo, money,
it was just throwing mad money in there. I said,
what you mean, like it was like raining money. He
was like, yeah, they made it rain. I want to
believe it was be a meth, but I'm not sure.
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I went in that studio that and he was like, yeah,
I mean this bitch, I'm making rain, making it rain,
make it rain on.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The mos that ship.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And at the same time, that's when I mean we
all grew up with Wayne his.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That was just a perfect combination.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Dog one thing I've never said publicly and I'll say
it again now and I'm sorry it's too late, but.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Earth God. He told me to get Wayne.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He said, Yo, ain't little Wayne your man because I
played it to him. But you know, I wrote the hook.
So I played it to him with me and he
was like, Yo, ain't little Wayne your man?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I said yeah. He was like, yo, go get him
to say this hook. I was like, for real. He
was like, yo, game and say this hook. He was
on fire. Then he did it right quick.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Wayne is one of the most generous artists I've ever
known in my life. A thing of beauty. Okay, this
guy want to help everybody. He looks out for everybody.
I love Lil Wayne. That just no barriers and no,
(25:32):
there's nothing that could stop me from loving Lil Wayne Man.
He's He's one of the greatest human beings on.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Earth, for sure. For sure.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
What's the best performance you've seen in the ruck?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I say that all the time. It was KD.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
KD went out there and scored. Oh man, uh, KD
did what Caitlyn Clark did to my liberty the other day.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He was shooting.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
He was shooting and he ain't played bumps. He was
playing against White Chocolate, all those guys, real players, and
he was giving him the business to the point of
the dead ass was taking it out. Somebody took it
out pass it to him. I think White Chocolate was
on his team, but they was just straight passing it
to him. And the whole five team was doing this,
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running up to him and he was jumping over them
from ninety feet. I don't know how far that shit
is straight through. Nah, this shit was dumb. I never
seen nobody do that. Bomb three handle. Bone Collector had
the Illis handle out there. He was recharted, look, I
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mean like retarded.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The only problem I had with Bone Collector.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I always think about that movie Malcolm X when the
White girl came up to him. I think he was
talking at Harvard and she was like, I know we
messed up. What can I do for you? He said,
you cannot do nothing for me? Right, So I got
a year. I'm walking into the park and Bone Collector
comes up to me. This got the best handle I've
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ever seen in the in the ruck and the street basketball.
He said, Joe, I gotta be on your team. Bro,
It's time just this that I gotta be with you
this and this and that. And I looked at him
and I said, you cannot help me, brother, And I
had to go.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Because he was more of an individual achievement.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
It was like at that time, it was what we
would call clout, so like he would fuck up a
whole game just to embarrass somebody.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So he'll be doing this with the.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Game on the line, He's throwing it back off the
head boom, coursing this stop.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
That I'm about winning, and the reason I won most
of my chips is because we had Kareem Reed, who
played for Arkansas ways back. So Kareem Read always knew
how to pull that ship back.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You know it's tied up eight seconds.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I don't and we moving. Most most guys are just going.
And he always knew how to make the right pass
to the right guy, score the two, win the game.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That you know, Sam Cassell.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Rondo a huge Rondo fan because Rondo he got it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know what I'm saying. Being a point guard is almost.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Like you're with no disrestret you're a ballerina. You gotta
be dancing through there and give it to the right person.
So he used to love Rondo. Even though he wasn't
a big scorer, he knew who to get it to.
So Kareem Read, you know, he was a big scorer
and he knew who to get it to. And at
the time where you need intelligence and so what most
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people don't understand this. You could be athletic, you could
jump out the roof, but if you ain't smart. I've
seen some of the best players on the earth do
the dumbest shit punch shot and I'm not the one
right I'm spending my time. I'm spending my money. I'm
spending high blood pressure. No, that shit A hundred degrees
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out there, humid some days. So I'm going. So I'm
out there with you. I ain't making no excuses. And listen,
you know, do not play for Fat Joe. If you're
not going to be a blue collar worker, I don't
care how talented you are. Everybody, Shout out to my man, BJ,
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Shout out to Richie Parker, Shout out.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
To all the legends that are my man. Coach h Syracuse, No, no, no, no,
the coach right now?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
No, what's.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He played for me for?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He played for me here? And damn, what's what's the
coach's name?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
James huh all Tree?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
This man un he recruiting, Yeah, shouts to the game.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Let me see you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But let me tell you something. What's his name? He
was good.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
He never hung out, he never was into bad ship.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He came played this game like he was a real hooper.
He come. He's all about the game. He's all about.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Waiting, winning, getting the fuck out of there. Ain't nobody
talking the matter his success. Ain't nobody. You know a
lot of guys I thought could have been the NBA players,
but they were hanging with.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
The wrong crew.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
They young, uh Dad, you know, God forbid you a
little handsome and you dumb, nice you. There's too many distractions.
So but Adrian Altree, he was, he was. He was
incredible out there. I bet I've seen a lot of
incredible people. You know, my favorite player never played for me.
He was a guy named the main Event and man,
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yeah played that's just had one in Ruckert.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
He was like legend. Hold up.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He was like, Adrian, what's the guy that got.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
To this day?
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Oh yeah, yo. He would dunk like he was knocking
you out. In the roar of the crowd.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
He was like this he was dunky, so this the
hoop he was sleeping on the hoope like he was
doing dumb shit, like he was in their head.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Just boom and you hear.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
The crowd was like, oh, Like it felt like every
time he dunk, it felt like he was knocking somebody
out and he and I might be coaching the next
game with my team and I feel like I'm missing out.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I got to run in there. This guy was going crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Man, you mentioned those historical moments and we look at
it now, so you can probably talk about this more.
Will we get those moments every again, Like when we
have the legens, the people in the leadue, everybody look
up to come play in the park because that like
for people like me who was younger, like we watched
those types. He saw that as on us, you wanted
to get good so I could go represent my neighborhood.
You see legends like Cold you see Katie, they all
pulled up. They treasure that they knew how important planning
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in the park was. When we get that every gain
or people make much money.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
When we got a game coming up, Terror Squad the
return okay against John Moran and his team celebrating the
new team to UH Air Force Ones, the Red and
White Air Force Ones. So John Moran is actually gonna
play in the Bronx and we're gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But you know, guys always come out. What's my man?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
The Spurs just got not the white boy, they just
got uh Cooper Cooper.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Oh he came out here for the slam.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Oh, young boy, you're talking about Cooper Flag. He going
to the Maths. Oh you're going to Mans.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'm sorry, it ain't the Spurs.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
He going to the MAVs with Kyrie and Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But that guy came out here for the show different. Yeah,
I've seen that slam game was different.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
But you know this is where you make your name at.
You know what I'm saying, because in the stadium, uh
no disrespect. It's a lot of fake tough guys. So
you know what I'm saying. You out there just because
they got tattoos and purple braids don't mean they killers
his ship like that. I remember these guys went to
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fucking college and and not talking them down. Do you
know Steve Jackson to whip your ass? You know what
I'm saying, stack Jack will not play. I've been in
situations with them street trust me, squad, throw and throw it.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He don't play. That's what I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We' from Indianapolis. We know so you nothing. We know
first hand stack Jack and that is not as though what.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
They did to Stevie Jackson one time they played a
terrible prink on him. And when he came to New York,
I mean Jersey for the first time he was playing
with Steph.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
He's with us, so he's with us day and night.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Shout out to Mama Marlbury Steph Moms just passed away.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I love you. She was the Queen of Coney Island.
But so he's with us. So I live in the
suburbs and Jersey and they tell Stevie Jackson, Yo, the
next door they neighbors are racist. He killed Joe's dog.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I come out the room. I don't know what they
did to him. The doors wide open. I'm like, yo,
with Stevie Jackson. They on the floor dying, laughing the
whole coup.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I'm like, where's he at? They're like, yo, we told
them the neighbor. I said, you crazy. I ran over there.
The neighbor never bothered me in his life. I ran
over there. I was like, yo, Jack, Yo, Jack, Now
fuck that they kill your dog.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I'm not playing that ship, I said, Yo, like fear lying.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
They are lying.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It's a joke.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I had to yea.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
But I mean it's still there. Yeah, And I'm not
saying that. You know, athletes he tough. But I mean,
for the most part, thank god, you ain't have to
live that gangster lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And we gotta take all these opportunities, whether it's sports,
whether it's entertainment, whether it's business, whether whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Uh and appreciate it and appreciate it. Thank you, brother.
Let me get that.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Bro shouts freaking Mike man on off the court door.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
No freaky want that name, freaky, No.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
More, y'all.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I don't give you the dia past, gonna start eat.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yo, you freaky. He was really just about a boy.
That's about a boy. Shili Rocher sparkles with your.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Pips, shouts a freaking my man. The professor appreciate freaky.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Did the contemplate changing your name?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
He signed this.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Bro, so you got to keep the name.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Even though he got T shirts and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
He got tyre right now, that name right there is
like sesh is selling.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You said you about making money. I can't lie, he said, it's.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Selling here in the TC deal man. Soon he's it's
called you're talking to him too much, too much gags.
Stay in New York, Joe.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
The rat Ford is already paid for you. Remember what's
twenty five thousand?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
See how bot a couple of hours down some good
sneakers on though for them. Oh yeah, we take care
of We're gonna make sure you look good. You don't
make sure you look good, Joe.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Hey, real night of Indiana. The uniform gonna be right.
Oh yeah, like for sure, I'm trying to you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
You know that shit crazy though, man, you know, just
seven thirty deals and all that shit.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That shit is, That shit is nuts.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
I want to ask you, man, what's the who get
the flies? What borrow in New York get the flies?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Uh, people telling me week no way, No. We historically
always say Harlem because of what Harlem meant to black
people historically over the years, Like every black person who
was ever successful for anywhere on the earth wanted to
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get to Hollow, you know, and you see like Godfather
hall them. I just did that too. But you know,
so we always just say Halem. I don't know if
that's necessarily true now, you know what I'm saying. Everybody
got a little bit of swag to bring to the game,
you know what I'm saying. But uh, you know, I
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know I throw that shit on bad mercus. I'm I've
been hurting these guys a long time out here with
the drip.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
The drip is out of control. I got a problem now.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I think I need to see like rehab, like I
wonder if they have it like shopping rehab that much.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, I do, and you don't wear stof twice.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I wouldn't say that I won't wear it three times.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
But you know, if I wear some ship and they
ain't take a picture of it, I'll weigh it again.
Gay double back, Yeah, I'll double back. But the third
time it would be it's pretty rare.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You're gonna see this again?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
You might, depends on how many views you Your ship
ain't popping if you don't go that bitch coming right
back out, you don't see me, see me somewhere else, like,
oh that motherfucker lie.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
He came back out with that ship.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
That's why you get it off again. But it's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
One of your closest friends happened to be his vent
Mike Bibby. Yeah, you're talking about your shoe story running
into the crib. You know what I'm saying, baby, trying
to chuck you out with shoes. But you gotta tell him,
you know what I'm saying. How he blessed you? Oh yeah,
so bid man. That was my vet man, and man,
he did so much for me in my career. He
bought me my first ever watch, spent twenty thousand on
me one night, just brought me a watch or whatever.
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But for my I guess my Christmas gift that year,
he gave me the Anniversary Jays, the one through twenty three,
all white.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, he blessed me with them.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
But then I tried to get some pees from me
like you did, and he gave me the jump Man pe.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
He tried to say.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I was like, I don't to bib I think sneak
is the sneakst So he's given me some jump Man
shit too. He he's given me some some horrible sneaky too.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
So for the most part, Mike ninety percent.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
He gave me the fly Ship, but he didn't realize
that that wasn't And I'm like, so that's why he
got mad at me when I went one of the
best guys shout out Team Dimonds, whole family. These are beautiful,
beautiful people. Mike Bibby's one of my closest friends. H
It was so weird too, right, because I don't know
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if y'all know, right, Fat Joe hung out every day
even with Ai Bubba Chuck at his prime or Stephan
mall Bill when he's getting twenty million, Like these was
my best friends, so that I might have even made
them closer because I used to hang out with them
every day. Now when I get tight with Mike Bibby,
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it was just it was it was It was probably
been awkward to people because they like Mike Bibby, like
all the way from Sacramento, Phoenix. How Joe with them
every year and they Mike Bibby's TSU. But we just
got really really tight with each other like that. But yeah,
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I mean I think he was like the odd like
if somebody looked at I understand Ai, I understand Steph.
But but Bibbie became tight with us like that too.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Until this day he's tight with us. You know what
I'm saying. Beautiful guy, that's my guy.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I want to ask you, man, what's the artist that
you ain't worked with that you want to.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
You know, I've always wanted to work with Doctor Dre
and never got the opportunity too.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
You know everybody else.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
I worked with Jay Jay z Eminem, I've worked with Jada,
my business partner.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I've worked with Game, I've worked with Snoop. I've worked
with Chris Brown for sure. Chris Brown. That stepped your
game alone. Your wife might know them numbers, but.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Don't come with the summer of eighteen and she was
your wife.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You be sucked up. You be fucked up for Chris.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
What a dream to come true to work with somebody
like Chris Brown, Like I mean to me, he's uh,
Michael Jackson. He right now, he's on tour and he's
flying through the air like I've never seen a guy
trying to die.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
We rolling right.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Let me tell you something. I don't use drugs. I
don't really drink. If I do, I drink so Puerto
Rican rum. Besides that, I never smoked a cigarette in
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my life. I'm addicted to diet pepsis, and so that's crazy.
If I do die, I'm gonna die because of that.
Now I'm the son you will talk like like if
a doctor gave me a bad, god forbid diagnosis and
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it breaks down to a diapepsy, I knew what the
fuck I was doing.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I drink twenty thirty of them shit today.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
I got refrigerateds all around my house, indoor, outdoor.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
With they nasty, horrid advertise is crazy, Joe, Well, you.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Know I'm diabetic. So I've been diabetic since I was
a kid. So I stay off the sugar. So I
understood when you were telling us earlier, no bread, no,
no cobs, stay up off. That's how I lived my
whole life, you know what I'm saying, And so I
try to you know, I want the sweet taste, but
I don't want the sugar. And so out of all
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of them, my favorite has been diaperted.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I drink more. I love a sunk. His diet sunk
is dice.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Snap didn't he didn't try.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
His taste was to be awful.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Way No, No, my ship, I've been drinking off like
teen okay, I've been.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Drinking this fourteen.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
You trained yourself for you to enjoy all you under thirty,
for you to be under thirty popping and die pepsi.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
There was no way that that was okay back in
the day, had to be for you because you were
still die.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Pepsi's enough glasy type ship, not really drinking die.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
You know, we kids, so we had like squeezes, caprice
sons stuff like, and you gotta diet pepsi is what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Brod raised by his grandfather. We all go to the store.
He like, I'm trying to picture with that kid.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
That's how I feel when I see somebody smoking a
cigarette outside.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
He's old school.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
There ain't no young kids smoking a cigarette outside. They
got so y'all saying, by the way, Joe, you're also
giving your age away drinking the diet pepsi.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Now typically pepsi's and new ports. Go ahead and head.
I don't know about the diets, so that might be
a different aue. That's my whole You.
Speaker 7 (46:00):
Gotta square someone. That's my boy JB.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
He's like that. He won't stop.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
He got the news like portable hookah. You got a
portable hookah with its.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Crazy all the ship right, Oh, at least that's carrot.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
No, for sure, people book you though, they got how
many diapeps they got to.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Have on want?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
I don't want nothing. I don't want no no liquor.
I don't want no food. I don't want nothing. I
want some diet PEPs when I come here. James got
the diet season. That's my thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, it's always funny because they booking the artists for
parties and stuff like that. Everybody, I need thirty five
chicken wings. They need a fruit tray out of stuff
they're gonna walk in and never touch.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Does not. Just make sure you got that water and
that I have.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
A diet some diet snappers, sugar free red bulliver is
really late that night, and then some DIAPEPSI.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
That's it. I don't need nothing else.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
If you got a little strawberries in there, whatever, I'm good.
I got the least complicated writer ever created.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Not that the promoters ever gave a fucking gave us
what was on the riding anyway. He's a I know
wankie promoters.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
I was a promoter.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You was a jankie promoter.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I had a birthday party, a birthday weekend historic when
I played, I ain't never get us on that rider.
Started talking to him like, yeah, it's about this crazy
out there.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I'll be about to yo.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Booked me for a show one time in Chicago was
Anthony Mason Rest in Peace, and every gang member in
Chicago was in that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
They had a pimp. It was a midget and he.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Got up and had a knack eleven under his seat.
That's how dangerous this fucking place was and they just
kept having like baby riots all over the club, like
they was fighting over here and fighting over here and
fighting over here. And man, Anthony Mason looked at me
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and say, yo, Joe.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Just go.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
He was like, just go leave.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
And I was about to leave and his lean back
was number one on the earth. I was about to
leave and I turned around. I was like, oh, my
DJ was out before me. That motherfucker ran past me.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
That was LV.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
He was gone, Like I'm talking about this shit. What
they say the function. This shit was act of vague.
When you see a little pip on a midget pip,
a small guy with pip with Mac eleven under his shit.
This shit was scary as fuck. Anthony Mason, he's one
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tough guy. He was like, go just leave, forget it.
Don't just go. And then I turned around and I
said fuck that. I told the DJ. I said, man
turning that ship on. Man, let's go, and he said,
pan pan pan. It was like motherfucker's fighting. They stopped.
Next thing, you know, they like they said, the whole
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place start going crazy. But I couldn't leave. I would
I would have never heard the last of that.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
You was pussy. You ran out of Chicago. You ain't
want to perform.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
And that's crazy because like this is a wild environment.
I'm not supposed to perform in these circumstays. I know
that I am who I am, but this is a
wild work environment, so for you to still do your job.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
That's his wife and saluc eya Kiss was there that
night too. He was in the staircase. I seen him.
I was about to tell him about that, like coming
like that was a.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Wild I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
But sometimes when people get high, they don't even know
what's going on, so they oblivious.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
They they don't My brother used to get high.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
They be shootouts and he's like doing ballerina steps and he.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Don't even I be like, yo, you're not hit you right?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
You good?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
I'm touching his clothes and he was like, but what
are you talking to? I'm like, Yo, they were shooting
the place. You in the middle of the shit, Like,
what's up? Like some guys they get high and ignorance
is bliss. They don't know what's going on. I don't
know that the midget got the back. Eleven fucking all
those guys, all the gangs in Chicago, they saw the
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enemy and they was just fighting all in that shit
like I'm talking about. I'm like, this shit was crazy,
and I'm just like yo. Anthony Mason was like, Yo,
just leaves, Please, don't worry, just leave. I was like,
fuck that man, we gotta tear this shit down. I've
been in a lot of unfortunately hostile environments. Now I'm on
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a level where you know, I mostly only do concerts
and arenas.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
And they paid them. Ready, you know what I'm saying.
It was done.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
You know, I once made a guy pay me with quarters.
So we were We had a show in Tampa, and
you know, they used to give you your first half
and then they give you your second half when you
get there.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I'm there, there's more deep.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
There's a bunch of rappers on the bill, and the
guy saying he ain't got the money.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
The place is ran packed. That's when you really bad.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
When the places ran packed and the promoters telling you
you ain't got the money. They feel like you're not
from that town or whatever that case may be. But
I was like, yo, my man, you giving us that money.
And all the rappers was talking the same shit to him.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
We got the money.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
They had like a soda machine in in there, we
broke the fucking lot and took all the quarters out
of the soda machine. I'm talking about a lot of
quarters and paid ourselves in quarters. That's a true story
that all these artists was there. They know there was
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plenty of New York artists that wain't the perform They
all got tight.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
They ain't think about that. When we walked out with
the bag of quarters.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
They was like, like I said, with aquarter.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
These motherfuckers got paid like quarters is.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Now you're talking about some hostile apartments. What's one of
my unlikely situations? Like a bar miss He's like, y'all
book me for this, but fucking we here.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
No, I'll get booked for bar minsws all the time.
Down Fat Joe a household name.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
We love it. Keep coming my brothers. Uh.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
But the wildest thing, you know, I got kidnapped in Africa.
You don't know that story, man?
Speaker 2 (52:42):
What yeah, no kid.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
I thought I'd be everywhere, you know, I got kidnapped
in Africa.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I met homeboy dovey Do and he said, you the
vetos on me. I met you twenty times in my life.
I said, what He's like every village every hood you
perform in Africa.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
I was the little kid there watching Fat or he said, nobody.
I don't care if they from Africa. Nobody ever been
into the fucking villages of Africa like Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I was like really playing games out there like I was.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
It was.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
It was a time where America tried to front on me.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
It's one thing when you got a certain pay level, right,
and I guess I wasn't hot, and they was trying
to play with my money. But Africa was paying what
I'm used to. I've lived in Africa for like two years.
I wouldn't stop every week I was in Africa, you know.
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And Gola Rwan, the Lwan, the Ghana Gobbone.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
There's a place called your Booty in that we talked
when I was on school. Did your boy did your booty?
I met the guys who came.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
No, I met the guys not freaking no freaking Mike
three sixty intended.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Let me tell you the job suit.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
I met the guys who killed Ben Latten there and Jibouti.
So fun fact, Jaibouti, Africa is close to all that
or wherever it's popping, I don't know. If it's Pakistan, Afghanistan,
this all that shit.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Jaibouti is the closest place. And they got an army
based American army base. And I met the guys.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
I was in like a five star hotel and ladies
they was like yo, we was, We're the ones that
killed ben Laden.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I was like, yoh, that was like right from here
we went.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
But another story, man, I met some incredible I met kings,
I met daughters of kings and there and presidents. And
in Africa, I mean, I mean there's a place called
Equatorial Guinea in Africa. All they talk of Spanish. So
you were going there, everybody talk of Spanish and they
were book Fat Joe every year, like thinking, you know,
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I'm from Ecuatorio, Guinea. And I talked to him in
Spanish and performed. Uh, just so many places South Africa.
Somali is in Bobwe, Kenya, Tanzania.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Rocco. But what I'm saying, every.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
I went on tour in Africa where a kon we
thought you got kid.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Got kidnapped. Got kidnapping.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Ain't Gola Africa by a guy who was a warlord
ass civil war. So when they made peace they gave
everybody who was a serious player a piece of the action.
He was in charge of the tourism. He kidnapped DMX
as well. Girou was Whitney. When you interviewed Jaru Assel,
did he get kidnapping Africa? You know what kidnap means.
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You can't go home. When he eat lobster, when he
eat whatever, you can't go home. He was like, you know,
So we went out there for one show and he
wind up setting he paid us a.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Lot of money.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
We can't lie, and he wind up sending more money
to my manager.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
When I thought I was the show was over and
I'm thinking.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
I'm leaving, he was like, yo, manager, And I called
my manager and my manager was like Yo. This dude said, wow, Bro,
you gotta stay there. I was like, fuck you talking
about I gotta selly out here? Like nah, y'all gotta stay.
You gotta do two more shows. So we were like
held against. It was like a friendly extortion. There's no
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other way to explain. The shit was like radio. Oh,
Buster Brombs was out there with us two but now
Buster Brombs beautiful, lovable.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Guy, but he has a short fuse.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
So Buster I was almost became his mentor or his psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
So I got to be like your bus, you got.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
It, chill stop guns and we don't have guns and bus,
We're not gonna beat these guys like you gotta chill.
Fuck that Joe, Like you know, Buss is crazy. If
you really know him, he go nuts. So you know
I have to talk him off the cliffs.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
Yeah, man, I'm thinking you really got a kid met
Oh how about you go to Africa.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
No, I'm saying I thought it was gonna be dark time.
It's not dark It's Christmas time. And the man telling
you you can't leave. You thinking, fuck the money he sent,
He's gonna make them give it back. I'm thinking he's
gonna force us to give him the money back. I
don't think I'm ever really gonna say this money. I'm thinking, Yo,
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I'm kidding that. You know in Columbia they did. They
used to do that to a lot of like Spanish entertainment.
It's like legends, you know, the cartel, and get them
to perform at the wedding and at the end of
be like, yo, I need that bread.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Back or you not leaving. That's you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
So I thought shit like that was doing on charity.
You're talking about the level of stress of being stuck
in the place and somebody telling you like I'm a
shot caller. I'm well, in my mind, I think I'm
a boss, a legend, a dawn anywhere. When you are
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helpless and you can't do talk that shit like I'm
talking to you right now, you're just like they came
to me.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
So the way you eat. They got a cool hotel.
Speaker 4 (58:41):
There ain't Golala Africa too better, So everything's buuface Noyle.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
They got lives to stake everything.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
A lot of white people go over there for all
you and for diamonds. It's not a poor country, but
it is though heavy corruption. So I'm sitting there and
it's too guys looking at me, and they come by
my table and they slipped me a card. The card
is the United US Embassy, right, so they give me
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the card. They sit back down this that so I
walk over there and say, yo, what's up? They said,
are you okay? And I'm not pussy? So I'm not
gonna be like yo.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
They got us and they won't let us.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
He said, are you okay? And I was like, I'm like, yo,
why you asking? It was like, you know, we the
guys who got DMX out of here. The guy you
with kidnapped DMX. He's fucking he's a warlord, like I said.
By then, I knew I was. And they was like, look,
if you call this number, we'll be here in ten
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minutes to go down to the parking lot. Somebody picked
you up, jumping and with and we'll get you out
of here. And I was like, thank you. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
But I felt like the man paid me so much more.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I had an obligation to actually do the three so
the three shows because it was like a lot of money, guys,
I ain't that at it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
It's a hell of a story, Hey man, I would have.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Jumped in that car. So I was like, no, we
all got a call now. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
The man knew he could tell people used to serve
him and they won't look in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
He looked beautiful.
Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
He was like Muhammad Ali, but he was a bad
guy and he knew I wasn't pussy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
He knew it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
He would tell me too, because they speak Portuguese and
he'd be like, dian I about my last name, you gangster.
Then he was looking at me like he knew. If
this was under any other circumstance, I'd have jumped out
the roof already.
Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
He knew he could tell. He was like, yo, I know,
I know, I got you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
You can't do nothing, And it was what it was,
bro We got home.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Hey, man, what better way? They ended with a legendary
sory like that. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
One time for Fat Joe, Man, we appreciate you, man,
One time for.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Up n YC Joe and Jed. If you not tap in,
tap in, they going, it's crazy. Man, We appreciate y'all.
We'd be back next time.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Club five twenty the volume
The volume. All right, man, we're back. Love of my location.
Man w n YC with a legend. Man, it's only right.
We're gonna introduce him last. But like I said, I'm
the host. My name is DJ Wells. Same game with me.
To my far left, we got my dog. BI should
be hearing out the pearls. How you were nasty, chill
and nasty.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Let's get to a baby, glad. We got my guy
in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Come off, listen. He got a uniform today, Joe. But
his signature is he wear the black ups with the
white laces. You're the man with the shoes. Have you
ever seen all black forces with the white lacest before?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Seen him in every way. I'm not mad at that.
I wouldn't wear black laces with him either. I would
wear white laces. That's how I do it.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
The shoe got himself. He usually had on the spiel
with white laces.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Now you're not fucking with them?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
What about the black uh fives with thee with the
white lake.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
He's taking an MJ. Did it to school, but would
be here to do today. Okay? Respect respect still to
my right, my dog young, not your young tea. You
got you what, man, I'm chilling, bro. I'm happy to
be here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Y'all know, thised my favorite guest because either reason I
ever collected shoes or I wanted to be rich. So
I'm happy about this. I got a story. I always
tell stories on the show. Obviously he was on MTV Cribs. Yeah,
you licked the shoe or whatever, and I was like, shit,
he got all them shoes. I need that kind of life.
But it was another one. You had a white g
wagon and you called it the snack box something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I just had a whole bunch of h whites. It's
a go for store to store just buying, of course sneakers,
but just boxes of Air Force ones white on whites,
just like Yo, give me your forty eight peg, give
me your twenty four peg, give me your A's what
you talking about? One time we did that on camera. Well,
(01:59):
I was going to different stores around the Bronx. But uh,
speaking of that, the new Kobe's are real dope, the
air Force but the strings are like old school big.
But I think I'm gonna find some less fat laces,
same color. That's what I'm gonna do to those stats
because them because them fat laces. You know I grew
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up in the fat lace. You're really old with the
fat laces.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
What I'm saying, come.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
On, man, listen, we are blessed to have a legend.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He had us at his home up n YC.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
If you ain't tapped in tap in, we got the
legend Man Culture, Rap Sports Now Podcasting got the great
Fat Joe to billing the Big Dog. We appreciate you having.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The circ I'm happy to be here, man. What's going on?
What's going on? Y'all? Brought the rain? Oh no, don't
do that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We'll try with the rain. Might bring the thunder your rain.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So we can't talk about tonight's game, right, or we
do whatever we want to? Well, what do you think
I think Indiana pulls off tonight?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Come on, man.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The pacer of me is praying we get a game seven,
but the realism is it could get wicked. Shouts to
my boy ty race Man. Hopefully by the time this
y'all see this. You know what I'm saying. We don't
got the chip anyway, but I hope he can play
because if he don't, it can get wicked. Yeah, you
know that calf injury that leads to the half and
get wicked. Man, it's a tough injury. I don't see
him having a good game to night if that calf
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injury is anything serious.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
M M. I mean that's a tough way to play. Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
No, it is.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But you know me, uh, being that we're talking mostly sports,
h I never been the guy to hate on the
team because they beat my team. Like Paul Is he was,
He's he's the truth, but he was looking real fake
when the Knicks beat Boston.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He was trolling us.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I never been that guy. Like I actually been
going for Indiana and in this finals.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Got the staff.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know, I just go for who I like.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm like bitter and I hate you because you beat
us and stuff. Even though I did hate Reggie Miller
my whole life.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I did, I did, I did, Bro.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
It was he was really like and we talk about
all the time. He was like Reggie Miller, I mean
Michael Jordan in our city, like he was everything to us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know what I'm saying, everything.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
In this city.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Set it down.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And he said, do you feel awkward about calling the game?
He said, I've been owning this city for the last year.
Reggie talks did you.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Ever make it any of those games?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Early in all those games?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So he was there when the squad on buckets.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And it wasn't at that game because I probably had
like a show with something. But I'm not saying I'm
courtside all those games. You know, when Larry Johnson hit
that this four point play, I was in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know who?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I was in the crowd with Ai so A. I
was up in New York. We went to the game together.
We was like third row or something like that. Oh on,
hold on your third row, stird roll me and no,
I'm being honest. We went to the game last minute.
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We bought some seats off the scalpers walked up in there.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's what they had. That was the best ship they
had out there.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So was some cool seats or don't do that? What
was gonna talk to you? Was it cool seats?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Or we went to the Pacer game the other day
and we were scared the post because of what you said.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
They had a should be we would saying there.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
We were never they was. I was in the sweet
but never in my life.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I won't do it. It was in general pop we
enjoyed the game. I get it. I'm just saying the
best fans right though, not down on the floor. You
get really experienced up on that.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I left one hundred two hundred level.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
He left the hand. You ain't want to do that.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And I know him now way better. And uh shout
out to him and his wife. They my neighbor's down
in Miami. But your mom man's burn.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He don't remember this.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I met him one time back in the day when
he was the start of heat, and he invited me
in the game and threw me in the upper decks,
gave me a ticket upper deck. When I say I
might have been there two seconds, I was like, I'm
thinking he was the star of Miami at the time.
They were like, no, sir, seventh floor. When I went
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up there, I was like, oh no, he got me
all the way fucked up, Like I never brought it up.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
A man. He did me.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Filthy. Now I'm bragging, y'all, I met your mom man's burn. Y'all,
y'all see set the game. I ain't know if it's
gonna be courts out of dot, but I pray every
time when I say courtside, because I remember when I
used to sit up in the last he used to
see Michael Jordan this little playing against the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So I appreciate it. I'm beyond grateful. What's the best
game you've been to at the guard and would be that?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
It would be the Larry Johnson that was like that
was like we was like engine engine number nine.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Big it up, big it up.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Like that whole fucking arena just exploded when he hit
that shot.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
At the same time, that shit was like synchoinized fanning.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Did you ever go to the games when Jamie Lynn
was here? I went to all those games.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
They did him dirty like he was supposed to be
a nick all the way.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Can you please tell him how many cameras was at
the game for him?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yo? It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm gonna tell you something, Jeremy lynn h lynsanity was.
It was such a spascio special uh moment in the
history of the next He don't get enough.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Credit he that boy, you know how right?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I used to play pickup basketball and sometime I
used to wish the Holy Spirit was in the cause
you see some players when they play, they say, Yo,
the basket look this big. I never got that, but
I prayed for it, like I be in the game,
like yo, I just want to go. Will they give
(08:34):
me one time to dumb out in here and just
shoot it from all over and everything going. I've seen
it happen for Calick. We played a celebrity basketball game
at Brooklyn and he was spinning and getting them in
and shooting them for more. I've seen him catch the
Holy Ghost.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I never caught it in basketball.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And so Jeremy Lynn had the whole league just couldn't
do nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And so I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Glad that the DNA and the.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Mindset of the Knicks is different. Now. You know they
reward you if you do good, they reward you.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
At that time, I was really furious as a fan,
and all I truly am is a fan. I'm just
I really have no opinion to sway James Dolan or
the Knicks or anybody like. Yeah, I'm just like a
fan like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Noah, for sure, I want to ask you a question
about that.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Take always say, no matter what if the Knicks were good, bad,
or different, the Gardener's always cracking. What was the crazier
moment the Lynn sanity run or the Eastern Conference finders run.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Nah, it's a comference, okay. He said the city was
going crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
They literally had That wasn't ai, guys, that wasn't fake.
They literally had one million people out in seven five
every game we won. We know what's one? Mayor and
New York cops. I don't know if you have ever.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Dealt with these guys.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I'm busting have they?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Thank god they fell back, which is impossible for New
York cops to fall back.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They were under strict orders to let them party.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
The kids was climbing on the top of the teletron
like they you know, it's a great time. Dolan came out,
I believe every night and handed the kid the game
ball like you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It was just a special time. We're coming back.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
We're coming back, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I like. I like Knicks fans though, because y'all rock
with our team. Regardless. We got a lot of we.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Got some solid fans for Shore back home, but it
took for us to win, for our whole city to
get behind.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The fair weather fans for short y'all behind the Knicks
no matter what. Yeah, you know too, Miami is like
that too.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
If they having a tough season, them seats to be empty,
but if they winning, then he gets crowded. Everybody want
to come out, show out for the city. So that's
that was part of my argument. So I lived in
Miami for twenty some years. Every night I'm in the
studio arguing with all of Miami Heat fans and they
killing me. It's like ten fifteen of them against me,
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and I'm like, and we sucked. So it didn't help
for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now that listen, we always talk about shoots heavy on
the show.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
To you talk about the kid game Man a legend, legend,
he aspires, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I got to run it up and get that
heat fucks.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean from all the shoes from I remember the
Olympic seven, so he had a naving room on that
m TV crib.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That was crazy at the time.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, I was surprised you had them, like I had
never seen them at that time.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It's all like that.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Was crazy at the time. I got h you know,
I've had sneakers like Kanye sample got him from PJ.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Tucker.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
So I got him, and I got the infrared sample
which is leather.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Uh that I've.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Got Jordan's a pair of Jeordan's they made for prints.
It was called Candy rain and and it's all purple.
I've been getting off.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Eleven's.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I've been getting that ship, but it's like velvet. He
never got to wear it. But you know, I've been,
I've been. I've been. I've been dumping a couple of sneakers,
you know what I mean, because I just feel like
I'm just so, oh, what am I doing. I'm looking
at big money in the closet, and you know I
could do ship, like buy my mother a new house
(12:47):
with the ship, like you know, just do something with
the money. I'm looking at the ship like it's a museum,
you know. And I love it. I love the sneaky
culture all the way.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But when you get.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Into it, like me, like like the type of money
I've spent sneakers is historical, you know, Joe's always buying
my ship is about the way I designed my sneaker
closet is always for competition and beef. I'm waiting for
somebody who called me out so it could be like
(13:19):
you sunk my battleship.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
They bring the shit out.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I'm like, okay, well how.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
About this is the sample that they didn't do of
that sneaker. This is what it is. Hello.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So you come with some shit and you be like, yo,
this is the sample of this. I said, well, what
about the sample of that sample? And I bust that
bitch out and you're like, you're fucked.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'll be seeing you a mayor. So shout out to mayor.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
May is my brother. Shout out to the mayor.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
He's a shoe god. Rest in peace. H Clark camp
for another one after I eerror came while a little
yachty twenty one savage. They say he got an ill collection.
Offset got an ill collection? You all it compete with you?
(14:11):
He could now that I don't. He came to my house.
His ship was like the emoji. You know that he
can't wait.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He can get.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I threw my birthday party last year.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I usually always throw a big birthday party, and last year,
for some reason, I said, fuck it, I'm gonna throw
it home. You know, I'm a type of guy really
don't bring people to my house, you know, but I said,
fuck it, We're gonna throw a home. And we had
a party of a lifetime of Cali flew in for
that and I put him in that closet. That boy
walked out of there like dumb, dum dum dumb. He
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was doing the ify he understood, like, oh no, this guy.
But he got ship. Cali got a lot of shit,
you know, Cali two witch, thank god Ala. He's just
way too rich. I don't know what the fuck he did.
Did he invest in the original big Coin? I don't understand.
(15:04):
I ask him all the time. He's my brother, my
best friend, Like, yo, you you would you cutins?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
What's going on? Really?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Why?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I know what's I know he's good, but I'm like,
you know, callen to do some ship where we'll go
to a restaurant and he'll be like, I want every day,
I mean everything right, So they'll bring out everything that's
on the menu. So you got a whole table. When
I say everything, if they have buttered rolls down to lobsters,
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down the soups standard, they bring the whole shit out right.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
We would eat. It's only like three or four of
us we eat.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Then his wife come in with the kids, like an
hour later, she's late, and he'll be like, I need
everything again. I'm like, huh, my kids can't eat nothing cold.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Everything brand new. They bring all that shit again.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It was already abuse the first time, you know so,
and you know I work hard, man, I'm not starving,
you know. I put the numbers up and then when
I look at what he do, I'll be like, Yo,
this ship is like impossible, Like I don't know, shit
is like define gravity.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I know that's dope.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
You seeing him though sore like that because I know
that was a youngin you know what I'm saying, And.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
For sure I was definitely listening.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I'm happy I got to ask you to some person
because you made one of my favorite shoes ever.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm happy to have them all today.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What's the better feeling going out and hearing everybody play
the song that you made or seeing everybody outside wearing
your shoes?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
That is an incredible, incredible question, And to answer it's
just so similar, you know, because I was in I
was like in Dubai or something right when sneakers came out.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Sir, and the lines was all around it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
They So, first of all, I have the number one
selling air Force one for that year Nike. You don't
tell you the statistics, but that shit was sold out
ten to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It was sold out. Fuck America.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It was sold out everywhere, Dubai, China, wherever, and and
so I would watch i would get all these pictures
of random people online and I'm like, wow, they really
they really buying the sneaker man, you know it was
it was really special. Well it was really really really
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special for somebody to buy a logo.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That logo come from my projects. You know what I'm saying.
We used to write graffiti.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
There's just such a huge history behind Terror Squad. You know,
not just as raped, you know, as a graffiti crew,
as a hip hop crew. So they shit is crazy.
But making a hit, you know, making a hit records
a miracle. Like if you want to have wonder, God
(18:09):
bless you because you found a way to get on
that red carpet. Some girls might have thought you was cute.
That normally don't think you cute. You made some money,
Your dream came true. In life, one of the most
incredible and most rewarding things is your dreams coming true.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And so you know, to see the sneaker is unreal.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
But making a hit record, you know, I have people
leaning back and I created that I said by people,
don't ask please.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
I'm saying out the Gate, did you think that record
was gonna be drop forty game like it's over?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Man.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
One thing I know, the only honest thing the record label,
the record labels ever told me was they say, you
are not Beyonce if you you don't not have multiple tries.
(19:17):
If you fail with the song, the album's over. So
they made me to train myself to not only make music,
but to hear music as if I'm a program director
for the radio or something. So that's why I kept
making hits because I only have one shot. Deal if
(19:37):
I if I, if I fumbled the ball, it was over.
So I had to hit every time. At one point,
I thought it was just a joke. At one point
I thought, like you talked about confident, like I thought
I I thought I.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Was that much of a hit maker that I thought.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You know what I'm saying, because for years I kept
coming with it to hit and hits everything. And that's
that's around the time I gave Jaru the New York
record because Jau and IRV Gotti definitely gave me What's Love?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I penned the verses and I did the bridge like
when they look at your rises, don't stopping me I
went the dog Ja we cracked and the lyrics. But
that record was a hit when I heard it. You
know what's crazy is when I heard it, I knew
it was a smash. I recently when when IRV Gotti died,
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I asked my wife, I said.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Because she went with me to the studio that night.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They called me like three in the morning, was like, yo,
come to studio that They was like on fire, and
uh so I asked her. I said, Yo, let me
ask you a question. You was with me tonight because
I know my story, my side of it. I always
tell it. And they was saying, how do you feel
when you heard that record? You know when we got
(20:57):
back in the car going up to the bars, she said,
I our life changed forever.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
She said, I knew that ship was a s mas
sman like.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
She was like, I knew, I knew we was up
and that that you know that that record got white
people to know Fat Joe. It was only black and
Spanish people knew Fat Joe before that. And and then
I took my ship off spring break, I went topless.
I'm the first fat nigga to go topless. Okay, don't
(21:26):
let Rick werelse tell you, don't let Cali, don't let none.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Loved well, none of peer. I went to.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
MTV oh Spring Break, Spring not before that, and I
came up there topless with the Fendi fir and man,
these white people, okay, because I was selling five thousand
a week, I knew the numbers, right, five thousand a week.
(21:57):
They showed that ship. Then I started watch it like
Saturday Night Live, Shit soap Box, the whitest shows in America.
There's this guy and they put an arrow on the
crack of my ass, you know what I'm saying, And
they be like.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
His name is Joey Crag.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
This guy's amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Shit saw going up ten thousand a week, twenty thousand
a week, and thirty thousand.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Like once they caught that, wats love, she.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Was out of here, double platinum, two million, and prior
to that, the only Latino solo artist whoever did that
was Big Punk. You know, we discovered punk rest in Peace,
so you know, we was putting that shit up park.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But to tell you about you know, when you.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
On a run, it's like if you talk comparing music
to basketball, the fucking rim was this big, Like I thought,
it's just everything you're making rain.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
If you think about how many people just say make
it rain, you the first to make it ran.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yes, No, no, I'm the first to quote make to
make that term. I made that term make it rain.
When I'm looking at the black panther and the dudes
chasing the black panther, he shoots in the air.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And the money goes and he goes, Hi, make it rain.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I'm like, Fuck, I'm watching bank commercials and they're like,
bake it rain and all type of shit.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I made that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I could tell you shout out to my man's stand
who's very successful in the hip hop game now, but
at that time he owned properties, he had nothing to
do with hip hop. And we was in Fort LAUDERDLLE
eating at a diner. He was like, Yo, man, I
went to the strip club last night. I really do
believe he was talking about BMF. He was like, Yo,
these guys is up in there before that. If you,
(23:47):
if you James, you went to a strip club, you
had a ten to twenty, you put it in the
girl's top, you put it in they past, nobody was
making it rain.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So I'm there with him and he's like yo oh.
He was like.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
He was like, Yo, some guys came in the club
last night and they was just throwing money in there,
and I was like, throwing money in it, Yo, money,
it was just throwing mad money in there. I said,
what you mean, like it was like raining money. He
was like, yeah, they made it rain. I want to
believe it was be a meth, but I'm not sure.
(24:23):
I went in that studio that and he was like, yeah,
I mean this bitch, I'm making rain, making it rain,
make it rain on.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The mos that ship.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And at the same time, that's when I mean we
all grew up with Wayne his.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That was just a perfect combination.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Dog one thing I've never said publicly and I'll say
it again now and I'm sorry it's too late, but.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Earth God. He told me to get Wayne.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He said, Yo, ain't little Wayne your man because I
played it to him. But you know, I wrote the hook.
So I played it to him with me and he
was like, Yo, ain't little Wayne your man?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I said yeah. He was like, yo, go get him
to say this hook. I was like, for real. He
was like, yo, game and say this hook. He was
on fire. Then he did it right quick.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Wayne is one of the most generous artists I've ever
known in my life. A thing of beauty. Okay, this
guy want to help everybody. He looks out for everybody.
I love Lil Wayne. That just no barriers and no,
(25:32):
there's nothing that could stop me from loving Lil Wayne Man.
He's He's one of the greatest human beings on.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Earth, for sure. For sure.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
What's the best performance you've seen in the ruck?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I say that all the time. It was KD.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
KD went out there and scored. Oh man, uh, KD
did what Caitlyn Clark did to my liberty the other day.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He was shooting.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
He was shooting and he ain't played bumps. He was
playing against White Chocolate, all those guys, real players, and
he was giving him the business to the point of
the dead ass was taking it out. Somebody took it
out pass it to him. I think White Chocolate was
on his team, but they was just straight passing it
to him. And the whole five team was doing this,
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running up to him and he was jumping over them
from ninety feet. I don't know how far that shit
is straight through. Nah, this shit was dumb. I never
seen nobody do that. Bomb three handle. Bone Collector had
the Illis handle out there. He was recharted, look, I
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mean like retarded.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The only problem I had with Bone Collector.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I always think about that movie Malcolm X when the
White girl came up to him. I think he was
talking at Harvard and she was like, I know we
messed up. What can I do for you? He said,
you cannot do nothing for me? Right, So I got
a year. I'm walking into the park and Bone Collector
comes up to me. This got the best handle I've
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ever seen in the in the ruck and the street basketball.
He said, Joe, I gotta be on your team. Bro,
It's time just this that I gotta be with you
this and this and that. And I looked at him
and I said, you cannot help me, brother, And I
had to go.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Because he was more of an individual achievement.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
It was like at that time, it was what we
would call clout, so like he would fuck up a
whole game just to embarrass somebody.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So he'll be doing this with the.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Game on the line, He's throwing it back off the
head boom, coursing this stop.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
That I'm about winning, and the reason I won most
of my chips is because we had Kareem Reed, who
played for Arkansas ways back. So Kareem Read always knew
how to pull that ship back.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You know it's tied up eight seconds.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I don't and we moving. Most most guys are just going.
And he always knew how to make the right pass
to the right guy, score the two, win the game.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That you know, Sam Cassell.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Rondo a huge Rondo fan because Rondo he got it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know what I'm saying. Being a point guard is almost.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Like you're with no disrestret you're a ballerina. You gotta
be dancing through there and give it to the right person.
So he used to love Rondo. Even though he wasn't
a big scorer, he knew who to get it to.
So Kareem Read, you know, he was a big scorer
and he knew who to get it to. And at
the time where you need intelligence and so what most
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people don't understand this. You could be athletic, you could
jump out the roof, but if you ain't smart. I've
seen some of the best players on the earth do
the dumbest shit punch shot and I'm not the one
right I'm spending my time. I'm spending my money. I'm
spending high blood pressure. No, that shit A hundred degrees
(29:26):
out there, humid some days. So I'm going. So I'm
out there with you. I ain't making no excuses. And listen,
you know, do not play for Fat Joe. If you're
not going to be a blue collar worker, I don't
care how talented you are. Everybody, Shout out to my man, BJ,
(29:46):
Shout out to Richie Parker, Shout out.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
To all the legends that are my man. Coach h Syracuse, No, no, no, no,
the coach right now?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
No, what's.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He played for me for?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He played for me here? And damn, what's what's the
coach's name?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
James huh all Tree?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
This man un he recruiting, Yeah, shouts to the game.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Let me see you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But let me tell you something. What's his name? He
was good.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
He never hung out, he never was into bad ship.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He came played this game like he was a real hooper.
He come. He's all about the game. He's all about.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Waiting, winning, getting the fuck out of there. Ain't nobody
talking the matter his success. Ain't nobody. You know a
lot of guys I thought could have been the NBA players,
but they were hanging with.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
The wrong crew.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
They young, uh Dad, you know, God forbid you a
little handsome and you dumb, nice you. There's too many distractions.
So but Adrian Altree, he was, he was. He was
incredible out there. I bet I've seen a lot of
incredible people. You know, my favorite player never played for me.
He was a guy named the main Event and man,
(31:20):
yeah played that's just had one in Ruckert.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
He was like legend. Hold up.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He was like, Adrian, what's the guy that got.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
To this day?
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Oh yeah, yo. He would dunk like he was knocking
you out. In the roar of the crowd.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
He was like this he was dunky, so this the
hoop he was sleeping on the hoope like he was
doing dumb shit, like he was in their head.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Just boom and you hear.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
The crowd was like, oh, Like it felt like every
time he dunk, it felt like he was knocking somebody
out and he and I might be coaching the next
game with my team and I feel like I'm missing out.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I got to run in there. This guy was going crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Man, you mentioned those historical moments and we look at
it now, so you can probably talk about this more.
Will we get those moments every again, Like when we
have the legens, the people in the leadue, everybody look
up to come play in the park because that like
for people like me who was younger, like we watched
those types. He saw that as on us, you wanted
to get good so I could go represent my neighborhood.
You see legends like Cold you see Katie, they all
pulled up. They treasure that they knew how important planning
(32:46):
in the park was. When we get that every gain
or people make much money.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
When we got a game coming up, Terror Squad the
return okay against John Moran and his team celebrating the
new team to UH Air Force Ones, the Red and
White Air Force Ones. So John Moran is actually gonna
play in the Bronx and we're gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But you know, guys always come out. What's my man?
Speaker 4 (33:14):
The Spurs just got not the white boy, they just
got uh Cooper Cooper.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Oh he came out here for the slam.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Oh, young boy, you're talking about Cooper Flag. He going
to the Maths. Oh you're going to Mans.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'm sorry, it ain't the Spurs.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
He going to the MAVs with Kyrie and Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But that guy came out here for the show different. Yeah,
I've seen that slam game was different.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
But you know this is where you make your name at.
You know what I'm saying, because in the stadium, uh
no disrespect. It's a lot of fake tough guys. So
you know what I'm saying. You out there just because
they got tattoos and purple braids don't mean they killers
his ship like that. I remember these guys went to
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fucking college and and not talking them down. Do you
know Steve Jackson to whip your ass? You know what
I'm saying, stack Jack will not play. I've been in
situations with them street trust me, squad, throw and throw it.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He don't play. That's what I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We' from Indianapolis. We know so you nothing. We know
first hand stack Jack and that is not as though what.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
They did to Stevie Jackson one time they played a
terrible prink on him. And when he came to New York,
I mean Jersey for the first time he was playing
with Steph.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
He's with us, so he's with us day and night.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Shout out to Mama Marlbury Steph Moms just passed away.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I love you. She was the Queen of Coney Island.
But so he's with us. So I live in the
suburbs and Jersey and they tell Stevie Jackson, Yo, the
next door they neighbors are racist. He killed Joe's dog.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I come out the room. I don't know what they
did to him. The doors wide open. I'm like, yo,
with Stevie Jackson. They on the floor dying, laughing the
whole coup.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I'm like, where's he at? They're like, yo, we told
them the neighbor. I said, you crazy. I ran over there.
The neighbor never bothered me in his life. I ran
over there. I was like, yo, Jack, Yo, Jack, Now
fuck that they kill your dog.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I'm not playing that ship, I said, Yo, like fear lying.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
They are lying.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It's a joke.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I had to yea.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
But I mean it's still there. Yeah, And I'm not
saying that. You know, athletes he tough. But I mean,
for the most part, thank god, you ain't have to
live that gangster lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And we gotta take all these opportunities, whether it's sports,
whether it's entertainment, whether it's business, whether whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Uh and appreciate it and appreciate it. Thank you, brother.
Let me get that.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Bro shouts freaking Mike man on off the court door.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
No freaky want that name, freaky, No.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
More, y'all.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I don't give you the dia past, gonna start eat.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yo, you freaky. He was really just about a boy.
That's about a boy. Shili Rocher sparkles with your.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Pips, shouts a freaking my man. The professor appreciate freaky.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Did the contemplate changing your name?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
He signed this.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Bro, so you got to keep the name.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Even though he got T shirts and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
He got tyre right now, that name right there is
like sesh is selling.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You said you about making money. I can't lie, he said, it's.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Selling here in the TC deal man. Soon he's it's
called you're talking to him too much, too much gags.
Stay in New York, Joe.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
The rat Ford is already paid for you. Remember what's
twenty five thousand?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
See how bot a couple of hours down some good
sneakers on though for them. Oh yeah, we take care
of We're gonna make sure you look good. You don't
make sure you look good, Joe.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Hey, real night of Indiana. The uniform gonna be right.
Oh yeah, like for sure, I'm trying to you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
You know that shit crazy though, man, you know, just
seven thirty deals and all that shit.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That shit is, That shit is nuts.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
I want to ask you, man, what's the who get
the flies? What borrow in New York get the flies?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Uh, people telling me week no way, No. We historically
always say Harlem because of what Harlem meant to black
people historically over the years, Like every black person who
was ever successful for anywhere on the earth wanted to
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get to Hollow, you know, and you see like Godfather
hall them. I just did that too. But you know,
so we always just say Halem. I don't know if
that's necessarily true now, you know what I'm saying. Everybody
got a little bit of swag to bring to the game,
you know what I'm saying. But uh, you know, I
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know I throw that shit on bad mercus. I'm I've
been hurting these guys a long time out here with
the drip.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
The drip is out of control. I got a problem now.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I think I need to see like rehab, like I
wonder if they have it like shopping rehab that much.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, I do, and you don't wear stof twice.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I wouldn't say that I won't wear it three times.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
But you know, if I wear some ship and they
ain't take a picture of it, I'll weigh it again.
Gay double back, Yeah, I'll double back. But the third
time it would be it's pretty rare.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You're gonna see this again?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
You might, depends on how many views you Your ship
ain't popping if you don't go that bitch coming right
back out, you don't see me, see me somewhere else, like,
oh that motherfucker lie.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
He came back out with that ship.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
That's why you get it off again. But it's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
One of your closest friends happened to be his vent
Mike Bibby. Yeah, you're talking about your shoe story running
into the crib. You know what I'm saying, baby, trying
to chuck you out with shoes. But you gotta tell him,
you know what I'm saying. How he blessed you? Oh yeah,
so bid man. That was my vet man, and man,
he did so much for me in my career. He
bought me my first ever watch, spent twenty thousand on
me one night, just brought me a watch or whatever.
(40:11):
But for my I guess my Christmas gift that year,
he gave me the Anniversary Jays, the one through twenty three,
all white.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, he blessed me with them.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
But then I tried to get some pees from me
like you did, and he gave me the jump Man pe.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
He tried to say.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I was like, I don't to bib I think sneak
is the sneakst So he's given me some jump Man
shit too. He he's given me some some horrible sneaky too.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
So for the most part, Mike ninety percent.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
He gave me the fly Ship, but he didn't realize
that that wasn't And I'm like, so that's why he
got mad at me when I went one of the
best guys shout out Team Dimonds, whole family. These are beautiful,
beautiful people. Mike Bibby's one of my closest friends. H
It was so weird too, right, because I don't know
(41:09):
if y'all know, right, Fat Joe hung out every day
even with Ai Bubba Chuck at his prime or Stephan
mall Bill when he's getting twenty million, Like these was
my best friends, so that I might have even made
them closer because I used to hang out with them
every day. Now when I get tight with Mike Bibby,
(41:33):
it was just it was it was It was probably
been awkward to people because they like Mike Bibby, like
all the way from Sacramento, Phoenix. How Joe with them
every year and they Mike Bibby's TSU. But we just
got really really tight with each other like that. But yeah,
(41:54):
I mean I think he was like the odd like
if somebody looked at I understand Ai, I understand Steph.
But but Bibbie became tight with us like that too.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Until this day he's tight with us. You know what
I'm saying. Beautiful guy, that's my guy.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I want to ask you, man, what's the artist that
you ain't worked with that you want to.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
You know, I've always wanted to work with Doctor Dre
and never got the opportunity too.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
You know everybody else.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
I worked with Jay Jay z Eminem, I've worked with Jada,
my business partner.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I've worked with Game, I've worked with Snoop. I've worked
with Chris Brown for sure. Chris Brown. That stepped your
game alone. Your wife might know them numbers, but.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Don't come with the summer of eighteen and she was
your wife.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You be sucked up. You be fucked up for Chris.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
What a dream to come true to work with somebody
like Chris Brown, Like I mean to me, he's uh,
Michael Jackson. He right now, he's on tour and he's
flying through the air like I've never seen a guy
trying to die.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
We rolling right.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Let me tell you something. I don't use drugs. I
don't really drink. If I do, I drink so Puerto
Rican rum. Besides that, I never smoked a cigarette in
(43:46):
my life. I'm addicted to diet pepsis, and so that's crazy.
If I do die, I'm gonna die because of that.
Now I'm the son you will talk like like if
a doctor gave me a bad, god forbid diagnosis and
(44:10):
it breaks down to a diapepsy, I knew what the
fuck I was doing.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I drink twenty thirty of them shit today.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
I got refrigerateds all around my house, indoor, outdoor.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
With they nasty, horrid advertise is crazy, Joe, Well, you.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Know I'm diabetic. So I've been diabetic since I was
a kid. So I stay off the sugar. So I
understood when you were telling us earlier, no bread, no,
no cobs, stay up off. That's how I lived my
whole life, you know what I'm saying, And so I
try to you know, I want the sweet taste, but
I don't want the sugar. And so out of all
(44:48):
of them, my favorite has been diaperted.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I drink more. I love a sunk. His diet sunk
is dice.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Snap didn't he didn't try.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
His taste was to be awful.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Way No, No, my ship, I've been drinking off like
teen okay, I've been.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Drinking this fourteen.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
You trained yourself for you to enjoy all you under thirty,
for you to be under thirty popping and die pepsi.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
There was no way that that was okay back in
the day, had to be for you because you were
still die.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Pepsi's enough glasy type ship, not really drinking die.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
You know, we kids, so we had like squeezes, caprice
sons stuff like, and you gotta diet pepsi is what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Brod raised by his grandfather. We all go to the store.
He like, I'm trying to picture with that kid.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
That's how I feel when I see somebody smoking a
cigarette outside.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
He's old school.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
There ain't no young kids smoking a cigarette outside. They
got so y'all saying, by the way, Joe, you're also
giving your age away drinking the diet pepsi.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Now typically pepsi's and new ports. Go ahead and head.
I don't know about the diets, so that might be
a different aue. That's my whole You.
Speaker 7 (46:00):
Gotta square someone. That's my boy JB.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
He's like that. He won't stop.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
He got the news like portable hookah. You got a
portable hookah with its.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Crazy all the ship right, Oh, at least that's carrot.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
No, for sure, people book you though, they got how
many diapeps they got to.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Have on want?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
I don't want nothing. I don't want no no liquor.
I don't want no food. I don't want nothing. I
want some diet PEPs when I come here. James got
the diet season. That's my thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, it's always funny because they booking the artists for
parties and stuff like that. Everybody, I need thirty five
chicken wings. They need a fruit tray out of stuff
they're gonna walk in and never touch.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Does not. Just make sure you got that water and
that I have.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
A diet some diet snappers, sugar free red bulliver is
really late that night, and then some DIAPEPSI.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
That's it. I don't need nothing else.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
If you got a little strawberries in there, whatever, I'm good.
I got the least complicated writer ever created.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Not that the promoters ever gave a fucking gave us
what was on the riding anyway. He's a I know
wankie promoters.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
I was a promoter.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You was a jankie promoter.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I had a birthday party, a birthday weekend historic when
I played, I ain't never get us on that rider.
Started talking to him like, yeah, it's about this crazy
out there.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I'll be about to yo.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Booked me for a show one time in Chicago was
Anthony Mason Rest in Peace, and every gang member in
Chicago was in that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
They had a pimp. It was a midget and he.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Got up and had a knack eleven under his seat.
That's how dangerous this fucking place was and they just
kept having like baby riots all over the club, like
they was fighting over here and fighting over here and
fighting over here. And man, Anthony Mason looked at me
(48:10):
and say, yo, Joe.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Just go.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
He was like, just go leave.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
And I was about to leave and his lean back
was number one on the earth. I was about to
leave and I turned around. I was like, oh, my
DJ was out before me. That motherfucker ran past me.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
That was LV.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
He was gone, Like I'm talking about this shit. What
they say the function. This shit was act of vague.
When you see a little pip on a midget pip,
a small guy with pip with Mac eleven under his shit.
This shit was scary as fuck. Anthony Mason, he's one
(48:55):
tough guy. He was like, go just leave, forget it.
Don't just go. And then I turned around and I
said fuck that. I told the DJ. I said, man
turning that ship on. Man, let's go, and he said,
pan pan pan. It was like motherfucker's fighting. They stopped.
Next thing, you know, they like they said, the whole
(49:15):
place start going crazy. But I couldn't leave. I would
I would have never heard the last of that.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
You was pussy. You ran out of Chicago. You ain't
want to perform.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
And that's crazy because like this is a wild environment.
I'm not supposed to perform in these circumstays. I know
that I am who I am, but this is a
wild work environment, so for you to still do your job.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
That's his wife and saluc eya Kiss was there that
night too. He was in the staircase. I seen him.
I was about to tell him about that, like coming
like that was a.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Wild I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
But sometimes when people get high, they don't even know
what's going on, so they oblivious.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
They they don't My brother used to get high.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
They be shootouts and he's like doing ballerina steps and he.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Don't even I be like, yo, you're not hit you right?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
You good?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
I'm touching his clothes and he was like, but what
are you talking to? I'm like, Yo, they were shooting
the place. You in the middle of the shit, Like,
what's up? Like some guys they get high and ignorance
is bliss. They don't know what's going on. I don't
know that the midget got the back. Eleven fucking all
those guys, all the gangs in Chicago, they saw the
(50:28):
enemy and they was just fighting all in that shit
like I'm talking about. I'm like, this shit was crazy,
and I'm just like yo. Anthony Mason was like, Yo,
just leaves, Please, don't worry, just leave. I was like,
fuck that man, we gotta tear this shit down. I've
been in a lot of unfortunately hostile environments. Now I'm on
(50:50):
a level where you know, I mostly only do concerts
and arenas.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
And they paid them. Ready, you know what I'm saying.
It was done.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
You know, I once made a guy pay me with quarters.
So we were We had a show in Tampa, and
you know, they used to give you your first half
and then they give you your second half when you
get there.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I'm there, there's more deep.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
There's a bunch of rappers on the bill, and the
guy saying he ain't got the money.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
The place is ran packed. That's when you really bad.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
When the places ran packed and the promoters telling you
you ain't got the money. They feel like you're not
from that town or whatever that case may be. But
I was like, yo, my man, you giving us that money.
And all the rappers was talking the same shit to him.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
We got the money.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
They had like a soda machine in in there, we
broke the fucking lot and took all the quarters out
of the soda machine. I'm talking about a lot of
quarters and paid ourselves in quarters. That's a true story
that all these artists was there. They know there was
(52:03):
plenty of New York artists that wain't the perform They
all got tight.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
They ain't think about that. When we walked out with
the bag of quarters.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
They was like, like I said, with aquarter.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
These motherfuckers got paid like quarters is.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Now you're talking about some hostile apartments. What's one of
my unlikely situations? Like a bar miss He's like, y'all
book me for this, but fucking we here.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
No, I'll get booked for bar minsws all the time.
Down Fat Joe a household name.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
We love it. Keep coming my brothers. Uh.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
But the wildest thing, you know, I got kidnapped in Africa.
You don't know that story, man?
Speaker 2 (52:42):
What yeah, no kid.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
I thought I'd be everywhere, you know, I got kidnapped
in Africa.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I met homeboy dovey Do and he said, you the
vetos on me. I met you twenty times in my life.
I said, what He's like every village every hood you
perform in Africa.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
I was the little kid there watching Fat or he said, nobody.
I don't care if they from Africa. Nobody ever been
into the fucking villages of Africa like Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I was like really playing games out there like I was.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
It was.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
It was a time where America tried to front on me.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
It's one thing when you got a certain pay level, right,
and I guess I wasn't hot, and they was trying
to play with my money. But Africa was paying what
I'm used to. I've lived in Africa for like two years.
I wouldn't stop every week I was in Africa, you know.
(53:44):
And Gola Rwan, the Lwan, the Ghana Gobbone.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
There's a place called your Booty in that we talked
when I was on school. Did your boy did your booty?
I met the guys who came.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
No, I met the guys not freaking no freaking Mike
three sixty intended.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Let me tell you the job suit.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
I met the guys who killed Ben Latten there and Jibouti.
So fun fact, Jaibouti, Africa is close to all that
or wherever it's popping, I don't know. If it's Pakistan, Afghanistan,
this all that shit.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Jaibouti is the closest place. And they got an army
based American army base. And I met the guys.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
I was in like a five star hotel and ladies
they was like yo, we was, We're the ones that
killed ben Laden.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I was like, yoh, that was like right from here
we went.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
But another story, man, I met some incredible I met kings,
I met daughters of kings and there and presidents. And
in Africa, I mean, I mean there's a place called
Equatorial Guinea in Africa. All they talk of Spanish. So
you were going there, everybody talk of Spanish and they
were book Fat Joe every year, like thinking, you know,
(55:07):
I'm from Ecuatorio, Guinea. And I talked to him in
Spanish and performed. Uh, just so many places South Africa.
Somali is in Bobwe, Kenya, Tanzania.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Rocco. But what I'm saying, every.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
I went on tour in Africa where a kon we
thought you got kid.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Got kidnapped. Got kidnapping.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Ain't Gola Africa by a guy who was a warlord
ass civil war. So when they made peace they gave
everybody who was a serious player a piece of the action.
He was in charge of the tourism. He kidnapped DMX
as well. Girou was Whitney. When you interviewed Jaru Assel,
did he get kidnapping Africa? You know what kidnap means.
(55:57):
You can't go home. When he eat lobster, when he
eat whatever, you can't go home. He was like, you know,
So we went out there for one show and he
wind up setting he paid us a.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Lot of money.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
We can't lie, and he wind up sending more money
to my manager.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
When I thought I was the show was over and
I'm thinking.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
I'm leaving, he was like, yo, manager, And I called
my manager and my manager was like Yo. This dude said, wow, Bro,
you gotta stay there. I was like, fuck you talking
about I gotta selly out here? Like nah, y'all gotta stay.
You gotta do two more shows. So we were like
held against. It was like a friendly extortion. There's no
(56:41):
other way to explain. The shit was like radio. Oh,
Buster Brombs was out there with us two but now
Buster Brombs beautiful, lovable.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Guy, but he has a short fuse.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
So Buster I was almost became his mentor or his psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
So I got to be like your bus, you got.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
It, chill stop guns and we don't have guns and bus,
We're not gonna beat these guys like you gotta chill.
Fuck that Joe, Like you know, Buss is crazy. If
you really know him, he go nuts. So you know
I have to talk him off the cliffs.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
Yeah, man, I'm thinking you really got a kid met
Oh how about you go to Africa.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
No, I'm saying I thought it was gonna be dark time.
It's not dark It's Christmas time. And the man telling
you you can't leave. You thinking, fuck the money he sent,
He's gonna make them give it back. I'm thinking he's
gonna force us to give him the money back. I
don't think I'm ever really gonna say this money. I'm thinking, Yo,
(57:52):
I'm kidding that. You know in Columbia they did. They
used to do that to a lot of like Spanish entertainment.
It's like legends, you know, the cartel, and get them
to perform at the wedding and at the end of
be like, yo, I need that bread.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Back or you not leaving. That's you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
So I thought shit like that was doing on charity.
You're talking about the level of stress of being stuck
in the place and somebody telling you like I'm a
shot caller. I'm well, in my mind, I think I'm
a boss, a legend, a dawn anywhere. When you are
(58:31):
helpless and you can't do talk that shit like I'm
talking to you right now, you're just like they came
to me.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
So the way you eat. They got a cool hotel.
Speaker 4 (58:41):
There ain't Golala Africa too better, So everything's buuface Noyle.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
They got lives to stake everything.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
A lot of white people go over there for all
you and for diamonds. It's not a poor country, but
it is though heavy corruption. So I'm sitting there and
it's too guys looking at me, and they come by
my table and they slipped me a card. The card
is the United US Embassy, right, so they give me
(59:11):
the card. They sit back down this that so I
walk over there and say, yo, what's up? They said,
are you okay? And I'm not pussy? So I'm not
gonna be like yo.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
They got us and they won't let us.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
He said, are you okay? And I was like, I'm like, yo,
why you asking? It was like, you know, we the
guys who got DMX out of here. The guy you
with kidnapped DMX. He's fucking he's a warlord, like I said.
By then, I knew I was. And they was like, look,
if you call this number, we'll be here in ten
(59:47):
minutes to go down to the parking lot. Somebody picked
you up, jumping and with and we'll get you out
of here. And I was like, thank you. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
But I felt like the man paid me so much more.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I had an obligation to actually do the three so
the three shows because it was like a lot of money, guys,
I ain't that at it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
It's a hell of a story, Hey man, I would have.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Jumped in that car. So I was like, no, we
all got a call now. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
The man knew he could tell people used to serve
him and they won't look in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
He looked beautiful.
Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
He was like Muhammad Ali, but he was a bad
guy and he knew I wasn't pussy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
He knew it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
He would tell me too, because they speak Portuguese and
he'd be like, dian I about my last name, you gangster.
Then he was looking at me like he knew. If
this was under any other circumstance, I'd have jumped out
the roof already.
Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
He knew he could tell. He was like, yo, I know,
I know, I got you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
You can't do nothing, And it was what it was,
bro We got home.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Hey, man, what better way? They ended with a legendary
sory like that. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
One time for Fat Joe, Man, we appreciate you, man,
One time for.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Up n YC Joe and Jed. If you not tap in,
tap in, they going, it's crazy. Man, We appreciate y'all.
We'd be back next time.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
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