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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Alright, we back another episode of Club five twenty podcasts.
I'm the House. My name is DJ Wells, Special special
guests in the Building Championship edition. To my left, we're
gonna introduce my Man's last But to my far left,
we got my dog Bishop be hearing out the pearles.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How you what nasty, cool and nasty.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Look, JT, I know you know what I'm saying. You
got your own shoe. But have you ever seen the
black forces with the white laces? Yeah, I've seen them
a couple of times. You're rocking with him. I mean
it's cool. J DJ introduced the other niggas.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Like his energy.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
To all right, I got my dog Young, not your tig.
How you were man, I'm chilling, bro. I got my
Jeordans on some sixes for Team Jordan. To day, we
got some Team Jordan the building. But you know I'm
an anti athlete.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
They do not want to.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Shut to coy Man. You know what I mean, respect
to the brand.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You crazy? To my left, man who actually has a shoe?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Listen man, Champion, Champion, Champion wanted the coachst to ever
do it? Just killing the NBA they net accomplished everything
you could do at a young age. It took out
more to build. Man, we got the champion. Jayson Tadam
in the billing, appreciate you pulling up big dog.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I appreciate y'all having he finally can say he champed
like me for you, My boy, you did do it
first first, Bro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Anything but raj Well, he got the champion. Man, I'm hyped, Broca,
it's my brother Man.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
He cool.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We got a mill West group check. We always show
love in there, so I'm hoped to have you on
the show. Bro hey Man, shout out to the game.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Listen. We got lots to talk about with you. We
will talk about the first time y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Man. Man, when y'all first linked up in Boston. You
came to save the Celtics. Man, I came to save
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
What I mean, whole head story line. You know, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
My jersey number first, but I let him keep it
so I had to go fifty five.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You know I was originally zero. Did you ask for
it for fifty five?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Nou?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Did you ask for your jersey zero?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I said it available, I said it avaiable.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, I asked for.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I respected what he did, but I ain't know I
was gonna lose my name in the process. But it's
all the real JT. Yeah, I lost.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
My number in my name was crazy, I know I did.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Bro, it's crazy, cool man, that's funny. Listen, we're gonna
start to the orders to be here. He's super tapi,
you know what I'm saying. The high school you he
was definitely on one of the coach at You teams
for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
It was at the Saint Louis Eagles. Yeah, Bro, you
gave boys hell back the day, back in the day,
an rememberable matchups you had back then. Uh so, I
know you led the e y bill and scoring.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
He was gunning twenty six and ten light. I think
for me, I mean, it's like everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
We all grew up playing against gods just in the
league now, Like Harry Joles, one of my best friends,
colleyed against each other all the time. We got one
of the best hey You games, I feel like of
all time. We played on ESPN semi Finals to go
to p Jam. Yeah, and we was down twenty and a half.
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We came back and my point guard Jordan Barnes, who
went to Indiana State playing overseas now he had a
half court shot at the buzzer and that was It
was crazy because you know, ag was numbre playing in
the country, playing against the best team to go to
the finals, and I committed to Duke on TV right.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
After that game.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Grant Williams was out there, Johnson coach. I'll never talked
about that game. It was like five or six pros
out there and we was at pjam. CP was on
the bench coaching. So that's like one of my favorite
AU games. I haven't been a part.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Of boys buckets. You that Miles Bridges forty, markol Fos forty. Damn,
I forgot who the other name was. In high school,
I think your senior year it went crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean I've been all right for it for a while.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I say, I seen how like when you and Jaylen
Brunston was going at it in high school.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So I ain't gonna lie. Jaylen Brunston he gave us fifty.
Uh we played in West Virginia. Yeah, I was a junior,
he was a senior, and uh that was That was
one of the times I left. I was like, no,
we got cooked, but we ended up we end up
winning the game. But it's just cool to look back
on those matchups. A like, man, people think Jaylen Brunston
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made me a late bloomer, but he like been killing.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, even in the USA, like the Uniting team, Like
he was going crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
No, he went on my team, He went on you
think you're after that? Oh you nineteen year? Nineteen year
he won MVP. Yeah, he was killing. So he was in. Yeah,
we tapped you see our facts, get you straight out?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
That was crazy. He was going crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Uh, there was like three of us were still in
high school, some was going to college, and some had
just finished like their freshman year in college. It was
cool to have a mix of different guys. But JB
he put us on his back and we was in.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Uh. It was in Greece and we won the gold medal.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Being from Saint Louis and being a star high school player, like,
why do you choose duke?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I know mill here and he's that dude for twenty years.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
But why do you choose d that's my that's my
big thirteen want.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He shot Yeah, lord, he alleged that dude let you
out to the bill. In fact, he was a honest man.
Growing up.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I never thought that I was going to do like
I just didn't think m people where I came from
went to Duke. I didn't think like that coach K
would come to my crib. I want to go to
Hot State, Greg Oden, Mike Conley, and in turn of
those is my favorite players in college.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So that's where like I was going.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You didn't watch Wait for Us, Make sure shout out
to CP though I did watching look at the see.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
All right, that's what we're like. Oh but y'all crazy?
You said high school were going crazy? Every going to do?
What was that transition?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Like, you know what I'm saying, because obviously, Holly, in
high school you get to do dudes and places like
none other tradition.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It's very important.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You got a Hall of Fame coach and the institution
that's more than any player you to come in.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like it's humble to be in that situation. How was that?
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They always say like when you were that's the first
big decision you make as a young man. And for me,
I only took one official visit. Like I took one
official visit and I got there on like Friday morning.
By Saturday, I remember I was at the bookstore with
my mom, like, yo, like we need to start buying hoodies,
like I'm coming to do.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I just felt that the vibe of the team, how
they felt about coach, and how they talked about them,
how close they was. I was like, man, I don't
want to waste no time of going to no other visits.
I was like, man, I want to go to Duke.
So that was like one of the best decisions I
ever could have made. Some of my best friends I
ever met from Duke. Shout out to John Shire. That's
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somebody I talked to every other day still, and you know,
we always talk about the brotherhood, and that's the real thing,
regardless of if you ever played with them or if
they was there twenty five years before you. It's always
love whenever you see anybody that had that uniform. And
I just wanted to be a part of something that
was bigger than myself. And knowing that I was only
gonna go to college for one year, Damn, you knew.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That that's a blessing. Yeah, I did. I knew that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I wanted to. I wanted to be somewhere that was
gonna set me up for the big stage. Right, you
go to Duke, that's the best, No disrespecting nobody else,
but that's the best, one of the best college programs.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Right. We always on national TV.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
The expectations is high media training, all those things is
just preparing you for the next level.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And I was gonna ask, like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I know that that's lit, but what was that experience
like that first time playing in Cameron door, Like what
was that first because y'r fan's crazy as hell.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, So, I mean a lot of people don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I got hurt in our second protein so we had
our second prote I ended up. I had like a
little stress fracture in my toe and I missed. I
missed our first twelve games.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
So I remember that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I uh, my first time playing. I think we played
like Tennessee State at home. And it wasn't no low management,
no minute restriction. I played like twenty two minutes straight.
I called it cramp.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So my first game was a little a little up
and down, but we got the best fans. A lot
of people when they come to do they don't understand it,
like this is the gym, like it's so small.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They will pay they think that's where we practice at.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's only like six thousand people in there, but uh,
you know they definitely supporting. The energy is crazy and
uh you know it's bittersweet. I only got the experience
that for one year, but it definitely was a great experience.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
How was it playing for coach? Said coach cal.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Playing my dog? You know, hend thinking about that money family,
you know, to the game?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
How was that playing for coach ko Bro? I heard
they got a you ask a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Hey, yo, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Jason, Jason, Jason over there?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
All right? Playing for coach K was great.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean the thing I respect most about coaches, he's
a leader of men, and he really understands how to
galvanize a team and how to get you to really
compete and play art. And I think that's the biggest
thing for kids that's coming out of high school. Everybody's talented,
but how can you work well with a team. How
do you learn how to compete? How do you learn
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how to get outside yourself? Get outside your comfort zone?
I think Coach K was great at motivating and he
wanted the best for me, like he wanted me to
be the best pocket. But He wanted me to be
wanted done. He wanted me to go be where I'm
matt And I think that was that was important. That
was special because you hear a lot of stories and
coaches that like want to hold guy's back and want
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to keep them. K like he pushes you to be
the best version of yourself, and that's somebody. Coach K
texts me today like even at seventy seven, like, you know,
he's still tap in and we talked all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Did he ever try you, like just to get you
to play better or we have his like little antics
with you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
N He definitely was a master manipulator. I mean we
was playing Virginia, Virginia. He was playing at Virginia and
it was the best game I had in college at
the time. I had two points at halftime, but we
was winning. I thought I was playing defense. I came
at halftime, I'm dapping everybody up. I'm like, yo, like,
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you know, let's keep it going. We're gonna win, Like
keep playing the right way. No, lie, I'm sitting next
to Millach K came in. I'm like, I'm leaning for it.
I'm like, yo, like, let's go. Came in took his
jacket off and he threw it at me. He was, like,
you saw fast Saint Louis kid, He said, if I
knew you was gonna play like this, I would have
left you back in Saint Louis. Damn I'm talking about
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He cussed me out the whole twelve minutes, and like Mills,
I was, I don't get mad, like I don't like
nobody called me soft, and I don't want nobody disrespect
where I'm from.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
That's how Newly talked to Mr.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Relate, Because.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know, Bro, my cousin, but coaches just been there,
like he knew how to push your buttons. And yeah,
I scored twenty eight points in the second half because
I was just angry. And you know, at the time
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I didn't understand, but after I realized, like he just
knew how to coach certain players.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, he was excellent at that. That's hard on
points in the second half.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Damn, you don't get no shots, getting no shots, Bro,
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I've been there. I've been there. My man ain't got
no mic.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I've been there. I know this fling, Bro. I played.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I played on the Celtics It's a different time I life,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's funny, you know what I'm saying that you see
people regards the best conference basketball. He was in there
in there, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Slew
to you, But I definitely hated you at the time
here because I'm a little of a fan and we
did not have a chance to get y'all. One of
the worst times of my life doing that period because
every cold player was going to do and we didn't
have a chance at all. No, No, dou is a
tough place to play. I mean, I killed. It's tough
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to play what you do with it, dang, I ain't
gonna want to done all right, I had to.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I was already.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Talking funny, you know I did two years bro, trying
to be funny.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I want to do what you have against like fours.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You remember, he ain't getting no buckets. We locked it up.
I an't play good. Yeah, we ain't going bro.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Coach k We played on blew the smoke at Coach
k right and he started coughing before the game on
call in a c C and tell him that we
can't do with the motorcycle no more. We beat them
that game anyway, But I had motorcycle in the basketball.
What y'all do y'all probably only do that when y'all
play Duke.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I had twenty six and we beat him. I ain't care.
That's the problem. Everybody pull out their best tricks when
do come to team. That was.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That was very game that I was wafore when I
got to your team, no more bounce.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
That a CC team you faced again and stuff?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Wait for it stop. I know ain't gonna say that honestly.
North Carolina they won a championship that year.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, they wanted joll your two.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
They went when I was in school too.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Joe Berry justin Jackson a CC played the here Kennedy
Meek Steve Pension.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
We ended up we played them three times. Yeah, we
went to and.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
One and if we ain't get cheated in South Carolina,
we would have met him in the championship.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
The lost South Carolina.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
They went to the final four. That ye is bro
was that was that was out of shape. Glenn Davis,
Bill Kennedy knicks too.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Oh you know Carolina fan like you.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Like coach call right, but I fuck with coach Calfklater.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
In two different ministries about you said, you know it's
gonna be a one to doe.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Season ends? How was that like knowing you was like
it's time to get paid, like transition to be a pro?
Like dream come true? How was that moment? How was
that summer?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I ain't gonna lie?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We lost to South Carolina and I was I was upset,
like because I was fully involved, like I I was
at Duke. I was like, I want to see this through.
I wanted to win a championship. The start of the
season wasn't great, but we end up we won the
ACC tournament. We want four games in four days. Nobody
had ever done that, so we ended up being a
two seeds. So I'm thinking, like, yo, were really gonna
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win the championship. We lost in the second round and
after the game, I remember I was like, state, I
was sick the medium in the locker room, and I
remember I got to the crowd. I wanted to go
to see my mom and it just it just clicked.
I was like, damn, like my dream about to come true.
And at that moment, it wasn't like I didn't care
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that we just lost. It was like, man, this is
what I've been working towards my whole life, and it
was like I saw my mom.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I was like, yo, I'm about to change my mom life.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And at that moment, I wasn't that sad. No, more
like I was. I was damn there excited. But I
remember I was a little nervous calling coach k of
like telling him like, yo, I'm not coming back to
school and Coach was like, you pick your agent yet
you ready? I was like, damn, Coach, like you don't
want me to come back. He's like, no, Like you
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gotta go.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That's real. That's real for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
But like I always was going to leave, but I
had just built the connection and relationship at DO and
you know, still tied into this day, and uh, you know,
I was just happy to be a part of that program.
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Speaker 3 (17:32):
The crown is yours. Nah, that's dope, man.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
A lot of people don't get that experience where they
coach want you to leave and like telling you pick
our agent and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Our coach was nothing like that, bro. He was ready
for them niggas to go. Yeah. They he was hating
on us doing the draft.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
He's telling two people were bad teammates, all type of stuff.
It was crazy. So that's dope that coach k did
that for Yeah, yeah, that's love. Listen, we know where
you win the draft. But did you think it was
going number one?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Mm hmmm?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Any think so went number one and to a Lonzo
I ain't gonna lie. Markel Folks was cold in college,
was wrong in fact. Watch Yeah he was nice and
I watched him. I was like, yeah, he's special. Alonzo
was nice, but LeVar balls marketing skills that entire summer.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, that was him. That was crazy. That's that should
be spoken on more because I mean, obviously he was.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Deservers wrong, but LeVar saw him so high for real,
he saw him so hot going on campaign. Who else
parent was on ESPN bro before the like, he really
went crazy for that.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
His daddy's got to do better. Yeah, that wasn't they
got to do better. But it was a blessing not
to go to l A for me.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
For you, I'm glad you didn't go to I mean,
he probably would have been filthy out there anyway, but
I think Boston was just perfect.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, I mean, it definitely worked out.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But like you said, during that process, the narrative was
it was consensus that Markel was going number one, and
when the Lakers got the second pick, it was like
Lonzo was going too. So it was never a thought
in my mind. Was like, I just felt like everybody
had their mind made up. And I was in LA
so Philly had the number one picket first, they came
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to watch me work out. The Celtics came to watch
me work out. I'm sorry. The Celtics had the number
one picke at the time. They came to watch me
in Phoenix, so Phoenix was four. So I work out
for all of them. They couldn't watch me. Everybody was
raving about the workout. But then somebody I ain't gonna
say his name was somebody on the Celtics front office
was like, Yo, one of the best workouts I've seen.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
He was like, good luck in your career.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But you know, we got the number one pick, we
probably not gonna pick you.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So at the time I was like like, damn, I
don't want to go. Damn, Brad, you did that. No,
it wasn't bad. I'm just playing. Let me suffer. I'm sorry,
come on, I got to.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But for me, I grew up with Kobe fan like,
I always wanted to play for the Lakers, so don't
do it for them to have the number two pick,
And it was like they didn't even it wasn't even
a thought that I was going to get drafted. Like
that was kind of devastating. So I never worked out
for the Lakers. They never came to watch me work out.
And then it was like a week before the draft,
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Philly and Boston traded the thirty one three and I
wanted to go to Phoenix. Phoenix had the fourth pick.
Errow Watson was a coach. I went out there I
was looking at houses. The weather was nice, and they
had a young team. I was like, man, I'm gonna
go get the play. And then I remember coach k
was like, Yo, Boston want to have you for a
second workout. You should go. I'm like, coach, like, they
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just came off the Eastern Conference finals. They got a
veteran team, like, I'm probably not gonna play. I don't
want to go. Yeah, And he was raving about Brad Stevens.
He was like, Brad's one of the best coaches in
the league. Like, just go for another workout. And I
remember I went up to Boston like three days before
the draft. I had another workout and I didn't know
where I was getting drafted until they called my name. Dang,
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and but you know the rest was history and it
all worked out for sure. That's crazy because I know
from the outside looking in him, like I said, we
fell from some of the propaganda from the bar ball.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
We didn't know it was sowing up like that. So
to hear you say, like the Lakers was that locked in?
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah. I was.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I was sick too, because it was like, man, I
was so close to my dream and I might play
for the Lakers. It was like best case scenario, and
they was mine was made up. They didn't want to
come watch me work out and had me come in.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I was like, man, so you didn't think he was
gonna play it all Boston.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And then I get drafted. Gordon Hayward signed with the Celtics.
I called my agent like, yo, I gotta get traded.
I'm in the Summer League before I ever played a game,
like yo. He like relaxed, just waited out. Man, he's
doing too much. Basically, he's like you got I'm like, yo,
I'm trying to play.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I want I don't. I didn't get drafted to come
off the bench and not start. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, he was like, yo, just like you're in a
great organization. They're gonna teach you how to play the
right way.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I ain't gonna lie. Would have been worried, Yeah, wrapped
the head said j.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
They picked up Jordan and then JB just got drafted
the year before, and j he didn't even play that
much a year.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So I would have been concerned too.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I ain't so at first, I'm like, but this is
before Kyle even came. But then when Kyle came, he
was cool because we we traded a lot of people
for kyin lot.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, you had wonder that like you had. I'll
rock with you purely off the skill. But I think
what's so crazy about you is like you accomplished so
much in a short little time that people like want
to down play. It's just like it's not his fault
that he came in the league killing a lot of
people taking adjustment periods. You was on the veteran team
with a lot of people trying to get contracts, with
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a lot of people trying to prove themselves. It still flourished,
like I had a crazy crazy man.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah that was at that time. That was like the
most fun I ever had playing basketball. Like, we lost
our first two games and Gordon got hurt on opening
the night, which was that was like tragic. Yeah, we
lost in Cleveland, played back to back, we lost to Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I was like, damn, it's gonna be a tough year.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
We won sixteen games straight and that's when I was like,
Kyrie might be the best basketball player I've ever seen player.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Kyrie won and he got hurt and we had like.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Twenty three games left, and I remember it was me
smart t row Marcus Morris, Baines al and we was
already the two seed, and we had twenty three games
that like play like learn how to play with each other.
And then we got to the playoffs and it was like, man,
we were just like everybody favorite team because we was
all young. Nobody expected us to beat Giannis in the Bucks.
(23:40):
Then we beat Joel, then played Lebron in the conference finals.
We was rolling. I ain't gonna a lot, like we
were just out there like having a.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Ball for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I gotta ask, man, how was it going saying send
Lebron to tweet the follow you back to Duncan on
him in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
That's a hell of a transition. No, it was definitely
a full circle moment.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And I remember like when we beat we beat Philly
and they had swept Ronto. That's when the tweets start
going viral. I made that tweet in eighth grade, like
when I first got on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, we know, we see the times, but it's just funny.
It's like twenty twelve or something like that. He was
a fan.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
I would never tweet you take a picture of Bron,
But when I, oh it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Was twelve, it was already six three on top of
his hand. You kid, I was like, no, that you
actually crazy that Louis. That's funny, that's funny.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
No, I want you to speak going for real. I
want to I love bro Cherry Rose your game, Bro.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I was playing with him. Man, that little stint that
your head bro.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So Teague though, like in the right before the season,
before training camp, that's gods start coming in like two
three weeks before the younger guys.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I was in there like.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
A month and we was having like open open runs.
And I remember the first time I called back home
and I called back.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I said, Yo, Terry Rojier is like that, bro.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And you know, when you're younger, you think the guys
that come up the bench or not starting, you think
they just bums or average man. When I seen Trod
in that first pick up game, I was like, no,
like Terry really got game.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Now, come, you know?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And for ninety five percent in the league, you got
to be in the right spot and have an opportunity.
It's only a handful of guys that can go on
any team and be who they are. And that don't
mean that the other guy's not that good. Is just
those five percent of players are really that good. So
you know, obviously you don't never want to see somebody
get hurt. But it was a blessing to disguise for
(25:55):
Kyrie to get hurt. T Roge got the show. You know,
you can lead the team and be the starting point
guard and uh, you know, do all those things. But
I remember, like it was September or whatever I called
back home.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I was like, t rope is old. He was killing
bro what I feel like? He was?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Youll like leader bro, he was.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
He was in the cut. You feel me.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
He was doing your thing. He was nigga at the front,
like what's had.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
When he tried to dunk on Brons when it got
crazy like the last game, Yeah, he ready to go.
You know he's done enough. I'm just trying. But the
moment was crazy, the scary ty because a boy act
like everybody so the neck like you know who he was, bro.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Spoky That that snatched back clipping Lewis was crash.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
But so at the game I said that out of pocket. Yeah,
y'all was hard for that, you know what. I love
Boston fans, even though when I played there it was COVID.
We didn't have a fan of staying. That's why I
wasn't hooping like that fans. I'm I'm a performer, like
I need a crowd. They had fake crowd noise. Wasn't
even out stays even now, Pa, Nah, I ain't no
(27:06):
hooper like the problem. Yeah, I ain't no practice player, Bro.
I need a real show, bro saying you turned it
was crowd noise. Mamas there, Yeah, I'm waiting at j
T Mama. She all wanted the crowd. Put my son,
little Duce running on the court.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Security you can run on the like to get your
I tripped over the ship. He do whatever he want.
That's fine. Yeah, I wouldn't know friends that we really
was cheering for each other.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Like what I'm like, I have my best game. We're
on national TV. Didn't feel like I tell.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
People that was the hardest. That's got to be like
the toughest NBA season.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That was terrible, bro, That's why your fans you gotta
do it the nose swab every morning like it was.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
You just didn't know who was gonna play.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Now, it's terrible. You had to sit and wait thirty
minutes before you can go on the gym. We all
just up there texting like I'm like, yeah, this is
over for me. And that's crazy that y'all say that,
because I hear all the players say like that was
a trying time. But it's like everybody else in mediate
but like that Lakers weren't count.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Because it was COVID. I'm like the niggas was playing.
So that was really hard. Advice over y'alls. That was tough.
That was tough. I don't know about them. For me,
it was tough I playing crowd, especially being on the road.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I want to apologize to Boston because that was my
best performance.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
There wasn't no fans there, but you was ready though.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
I mean, we don't want to talk about your Michael
Urban stories, but he was ready to play man stop.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I wouldn't coke. I was just cleaning my nose a lot.
I didn't want coach. He's out of pocket, broo. He
always played too much for Wrestler's gonna beat you your.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Start out, bro What you said you're going, how you
rank fakes.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Listen, see nigga, you didn't come on here to do this,
but we're here. Everybody just sees the clips and fuck them. Really,
you don't give a fuck honestly, excuse me this nigga.
But since you want to break it up, I said,
a real karate black belt.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
He agreed.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
He wrestling, He dumps off the ropes.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
At the house.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
He's the biggest wrestling fan in the in the world.
Why you add this, I'll be leaving stuff alone.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
But I'm saying a real karate black belt is somebody
who just plays in w W E like not saying
the top wrestlers or nothing, but like the nigga that
they had LaVar Ball out there.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So it's like eight niggas bill like labarn Ball, that
wrestle will get paid.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
So a motherfucking real karate earl type nigga with the
black belt will beat the ship out of one of them.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Bro, I don't care. I'm not worried about it. I'm
not worried about it. We're not. You're not gonna disrespect here.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's crazy almost trying to deal with them something the
one piece then a w you call me.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Too, Bro, stop laughing at him. I tell you how
you're laughing at the lunch tyme of person laughing getting next? Bro,
all right, man, shoes is crazy. What was that feeling like?
You know what I'm saying, that she was going to
be a signature athlete in your own shoe.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Man, that's hard. No, it was dope. I mean for me,
I don't I don't take anything for granted.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I'm still young enough where I remember the days of
playing two K with my cousin, like yo, I'm gonna
be on the cover one day, or going to full
locker like, man, somebody gonna buy my shoes one day,
or getting a jersey for Christmas, Like, man, somebody gonna
get my jersey for Christmas. So it's like it's still
a wild moment, like when we go on the road
and kids on the sideline, of kids in the crowd
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holding up my shoes, like three years in, it's my
third shoe, and it's still like, man, like all the
guys in the league, all the shoes you could have
went to go by and it's like, man, you want
to go buy mine. It's like that should is still
dope to me even to this day.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
How's a design process like to be hands on with something,
like you said, you get to see out in the world.
And the second side that question is how do you
feel about people playing against you?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And your shoes. So that's it.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So the first part, it's an eighteen month process. So
like the threes is out, the forest is done, we're
working on the five. So okay, it's like it's a
long process because you like, you want to enjoy what
you're wearing now, but you're on meetings about when the
forest is coming out and they're like, all right, well
we need to start designing the fives. So it's tough.
It's trying to kind of stand in the moment because
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you're like, man, I just want to focus on what's
going on right now. But shout out to everybody on
the on the team, Team Tatum at Jordan Brand, they
work very hard. We always on calls it gain and
it's just dope to see all the work to go
behind and all how long it took. And it's like
when you finally see the final product, when you get
to see all the color ways and tell stories organically
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and people that you know can relate.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
To whatever you're trying to tell, it's dope.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And for me, you know, seeing guys wear my shoes,
whether they college or the women's team in college or
the w NBA players. We just played Detroit like two
games ago and shout out to Tim Hardaway. Tim Hardaway's
been wearing my shoes like a year and a half now.
Always notice whenever I played Tim, they don't never wear them,
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but we always joke and laugh about it. So he
ain't wearing when we play the other day. Then they
went to Miami and he had them on. But I
get it, like man, being a competitor, you try and
compete against somebody like you don't how they sneaks on,
you know, I totally understand that. But I shout out
to all the guys in the league that we're to
Tatum threes or twos or whatever, and I really do
(32:59):
a ship there is raw, bro, you.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Think you're gonna have like a a Tatum team like
guys who were like you can. I mean what Steph
just do he signed here in front of them soldiers? Yeah,
wherever you want to come, just crazy Lebron. So I'm
about trying to be a Lebron. So you're about trying
(33:25):
to get the big start War two but it didn't work.
Give me the grand out with them b rolls. But
my boy taking shoot man, that'd be dope.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
If you know, we keep building the business and we
get to a point down the road ten years from
now when I'm one of the older guys.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Uh, anything happened. So that's far.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I asked, was the ascitement like? What was like a
better feeling? I know you're very grateful, but being on
two K getting your own shooting, that's too far.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Ass accomplishments. But be on the cover of two K, bro,
it's crazy. Oh that's a good question. I ain't gonna lie.
I bought that two K. I can't believe I bought it.
It's not not like that. I'm not saying like that.
I ain't bought two K in a long time. I
usually get it delivered. Support black, appreciate it. You could
(34:14):
send me one, bro. This man kind of send me shoes.
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I got some j T.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I never get those j T. Let me keep it up.
We got to I got some tools, got some too
great some threes on the way that I saw Jordan.
I got the Jordan athlete. Now on the way, what
do use the platform? Kid? So you gotta start bullying people.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I think the moment when I found out I was
on two K was more special just because it was
my birthday and it was on the Netflix.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Thing I did was starting five deuce.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
He surprised me, and at that moment, like I kind
of got emotional, like I teared up a little bit
just because it was like, man, it's my son sharing
this moment with me.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
This is just something I always dreamed of.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It was like being on the cover of two K
is like legendary and heavy on shoe as well. But man,
two K twenty five is like right, everybody played to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I just wish they wanted did Joe game like they
did it like when you was on the cover. Because
Nigga can't make a shot for ship, I ain't. No,
I'm wrong, now get to you talking about his game?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
No, no, no, he wrong. They made him.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
All about the gameplay, like when you create a player
on the wreck and stuff like can't nobody make a
shot but me.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
My nephew sells me. My best friends tell me.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I got to carry boy. My back is getting heavy.
People complain about the game play. I try to text
you at and tell him, tell RONI to get this fixed.
He didn't respond. But anyway, you ain't never text me.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I ain't. Okay, okay, you're right. They were nervous. He
was nervous. Two K squads out of the box. Yeah,
we gotta get better. He was nervous.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
He was nervous.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Michael gonna come, I said, just got here. I was
like just eight because you like he what time? He
took me back? Yet what we do are on it,
(36:38):
Mike tied. That's freaky, Mike. We're gonna tell you his
backstory when I ain't never care. I always come through, bro.
Now you do, Bro, you always been.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
That's one thing I wanted to say, like when you
when it comes to fans and stuff like you d
Rose and a couple of teammates, y'all always been great
with fans.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I was never good with fans, Like I ignore kidding
heartbeat you was good, bro.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
No, I'm not saying like that, like baby, like I
hear him and I just go back there. I get
you don't ignore anybody like and that's what make you you.
While you starts, you got to shoot. That's while you
can be sold on the two K cover because you
treat everybody respect.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I wasn't disrespecting. I just feel like something that that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
But listen, now he great at that though, And I
used to see that when we was in Boston and
like even like when you had a little Mikey in
here man the sign of Jersey and see how excited
he was about that.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I'm like, man, he really got it, you know what
I mean? You got that? Bro?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
When did you start that though? Like, when did you
like become like damn my low key famous? Was it
high school? Was it walking on campus?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
A dude?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Like, when did you start embracing that moment? I mean
it's a progression. Like when I was in high school.
I got to a certain point. That's when social media
took off. I would come out the locker room. I
was signing three four hundred autographs after the game.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
In high school.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, now, ain't the cash in?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
And that support is crazy? You and sexy red boy
Saint Louis getting.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Behind shots pocket no disrespect.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I know you can't say joy me no more. But
the Chinese food out there, fire to the shouts to
the fri Rice.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Brothers was crazy. What's the shop.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Boy out of pocket? I wouldn't may be he was
arguing about Nelly and somebody.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Bro. He was really hot at me. It was better
than Nelly.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
He was really bad.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Bro Tea the type of guy. He would just say.
He'd come in the locker room and just say some wow.
She just to like get a reaction out of you.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
He used to say, like, and I love James Harden
us to be like, no, no, no, no, yeah, are
you saying I don't know Kobe is my favorite player.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Just say anybody is better than Koche. See, you can't
do that. I got trouble about this.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
He's just just trigger Who's what you say?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
It was better than them?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I can't just saying somebody wow, he was hot. He's like, what,
that's the first time I ever got in ridded. I'm
used to listen to though.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Was you warming up to he?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Was he so.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Shaumanized? Crazy?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yoh Man trying to go Indian Go ahead, I.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Got Jackson.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I got Michael Jackson, the best rapper from Indiana. Shout
out Freddy Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I guess no respect. I'm just saying he's not from
mar City, from from Gary.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
We speaking Gary, the best rapper from Indiana.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
All right, y'all got sexy Nelly uh chere.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Changsterea used to listen to this, Yeah yeah, he getting
paid right now from the country dude using the song
Boozo or something like that.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
So y'all, y'all have some ship, but you'll have some
I wear for this because of Nelly. So yeah, that's
that's a big statement.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
I thought Nelly was wrong back in the day.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
There's people better than they got better music about.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
It's a handful of people. He stop that. I mean
he did a half.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
He didn't go down j T favorite rapper Z though.
That's how that's how me and him got cool. I'm like,
d you listening to jay Z brought you about?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
He came to the team and this was during the
COVID season, so the season started late, like November December.
Our first game was on Christmas. Yeah, he didn't talk
for the first like three weeks. He ain't had nothing,
got to test people out, bro.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Dark times bro.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
And then one day this nigga did not shut up,
Like he ain't talked for like three weeks. I was like,
something wrong with it different.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
And then after that he just from the day he
got traded to the day he got traded, he talked
every day.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Wow, man, that's how it became cool. Don't remember that moment?
I do I remember because I was like, man, they
think I'm weird. I don't know. I really think he
was weird.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'm really roasting y'all in my head, but really being cool.
Yeah yeah, I was like, man, I said something to
him and we started shooting again than I was beating
and shooting every time.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Yeah, can we get on that story? Because ever turn
and say he whooped your ass one day and practice
be one.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I mean that's probably the reason. Like I don't address
a lot of things. People say a lot of things
on the internet on TV about me, and it's cool.
Everybody got a job, but I like your platform and
podcast and I feel like I had to come up
here and addressing things.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I had E T.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
We and a crew message right, and sometimes you just
can't let people get away with lying, get on the camera, just.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Allegations. I don't you want to talk about me?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
He said, he used to talking.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
This was e T first year coaching. He still wanted
to hoop. T wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I ain't gonna say he wasn't playing, but like I
was starting at for no, I was six many he
was going out. He was coming up to he came
in his git don't do that, but tem that T
like he got this demeanor like he don't. He just
real nonchalant like everything. He's just that's facts. Bro. He
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being practiced. She was kind of like barely tied. But
after practice he would want to play one on one.
He'd wanted. We would always shoot at the practice and
me and him and Et would play one on one.
Damn it like every day, and he would win some spots,
like we played yeah spot.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
He's sixteen, I'm five nine. I mean he was him up,
he was he was scoring et, Damn, I was scoring
on YouTube. Bro, and some of those I don't know
about like that. You're not gonna let you do exactly,
(43:49):
he Bro. He used to lock him up sometimes. That's
what he was trying to get it. We never thinking
about co people get covid man. Like he was trying
(44:10):
to come back and hoop now, Like, Bro, Bro, get
covid man. You might have to suit up.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Bro. We was playing with King of the Court that
day at home. I twin cross, Et, I go to
lay the ball up, grabbed me out the air.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
He'sing hard, Bro.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Brad Stevens walking the baseline like for a split second,
Et lost his mind, like he almost got fired. Like
he grabbed me out the air. Not like that found
me just like the so I wouldn't get the lay up. Yeah,
and Brad Brad non confrontational. Brad just looked at him like.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
The hell are you doing.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That's when I knew its top of me stopped playing.
He tripped on me and some ship. He ain't got
much true around.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
The joint, like the thing. I couldn't have believe it.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Like you know, most of the star players, they get
their shot I took, then they're gonna go about their business.
He would be looking for you, like, oh, we ain't
playing to day. I'm like, and he different, He ain't
we in the gym for another two hours.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
We would play one one every day and I'm like,
he's different, Like he want to be in here for
another two hours. I really don't even want to be
in here.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But I'm gonna play against him because like he wouldn't
he didn't really want to be at practice.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Coach Bron't that.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Kids, because that was fucking third good. The gym down
might not have been submitted. I fucking running all day,
but I want to say.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
He liked this, Like a lot of people don't necessarily
want to go through the practice schedule.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
But if they want to compete if you want to.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Go to workout of shooting drills and play one on
after practice, like everybody want to compete. So that was
our thing. After practice we would always play one on
one me and and uh E t out the practice.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
Do you give him a little credit though, in ET
for sharpening your skills a little bit. That's a little bit.
I'm trying to get them where you show him a
little love, bro, the ET teacher was what fucking drill
that you used?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
The funny thing about Et he would tell like E
T B E T was assistant coaches at this point
for sure. ET was like, what am I going to
teach Jason Table? Who I'm a teacher better than me?
I'm like, good point ET about.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
That too, thought was the wildest funniest coach I ever had,
and not even trying to be funny. We was playing
in Milwaukee and I think at the half I had
to be like three for ten. I missed like four
or five threes, so I missed. My laste were walking
off and he just so it's like he got an
innocense about it. He run up to me, He's like, yo,
(46:51):
you know you can make some of them right. I
know what he's trying to say about how he conveyed
the messages.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
It's so crazy because like how do I even respond
to this in the moment. You don't laugh, bro, Like yeah,
I'm trying to. I'm trying. That was a good time, bro,
so sould I just talk? Okay? Like look at j
T Man he went the ball man he pissed like
(47:26):
all you see if I forget it was a fun year.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I give credit though. I wanted a d roll with autograph.
Jersey and I didn't know that they was cool. I
know that they knew each other from way back, and
team made sure I got an autograph Detroy Piston de
Rose Jersey.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, I was like, man, go up to him. Break.
I went up to him and he looking like he
won't mark. I'm like, yeah, like I need want to.
So it was like nervous that go up to as.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
That's what made me like kind of get like drawn
to you, Paus. But it's like you was so cool,
like man, he's a star, like superstar.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
But he'll be like I remember you.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Bro, like he'll show you love, like he ain't give
me no love right now. It's cool, but he'd be
like you remember you want to get Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
I'm like, you know what I'm saying. Right on, Bro,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (48:27):
E T.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
E T like that too. E T give you a
lot of love. And I was like, dang. So when
I seen him start working together. E T was like, man,
that's he like a little bro bro. But he cold.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
The only person he would ever say something else to
get under his skin to be Luca Bro anytime we
mentioned Luca even though it definitely ain't no beef with
them or no, it's just competitive spirit. But E T
would be like, yeah, Luca Cold. I'd be like about
to get forty, they go crazy. I was like, tay
the game, before the game, you gotta play, somebody talk
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about Luca T like that's my favorite players.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Look, he'd be like JB. Saud be like wow, I'll
be like cold.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I knew he was gonna get at least a thirty
two point performance on the bench. You just want to
see somebody kill see some.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Motherfuckers knew how to trigger him though, I him going.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
I text him now.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I couldn't say nothing. The first game this year, you
went crazy. I ain't want to get you a little.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
I was just gone up, Yeah, regression, but he was
killing bro. He was killing to shipping good for so
far for sure. Listen, man, we definitely want to talk
about the I had last year to get the ring.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
But I want to ask you know what I'm saying,
planning gets the words and twenty two coming up a
little bit short. But how was that experience? You know
what I'm saying moreed you to be ready to get
that chip last year.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
I mean, it's certain things that you go through in
real time that you don't understand, like how this is
going to prepare you for the future, because losing a
twenty two is like devastating. Like we was the eleventh seed.
We end up getting to the two seed. We beat
Katie and Kyrie, We beat Yannis, the defending champs. We
go to Miami and win in Game seven, Like that
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was one of the toughest runs I can remember in
recent years. And then to fall up short, it was like, man,
we just did all that for nothing. It was devastating.
And then the next year we kind of like we
like overlooked teams a little bit. We just wanted to
get back to the finals. We end up going six
with Atlanta in the first round, Like we didn't handle
business the way we should have and put ourselves.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
In a whole. We was down three, and you damn
it gotta be perfect to win four games in a row.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
And you know I sprained my ankle to first play
the game, and you know, the margin for error is
that much shorter when you down three. So I think
last year was the perfect balance of like obviously we
got KP, we got Drew, and I think our team
was just in the perfect space of like everybody got paid,
everybody had individual success in awards.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
The only thing we haven't done besides Drew was winning championship.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
And I give a lot of credit to our coaching
staff and Joe just the way we prepared, Like in
our mindset, we knew how to play, and we really
we just got better every single day. We approached how
we was going to play the Bucks the same way
we was going to play the Wizards. Like we didn't
look past nobody, and we lost eighteen games last year
and we went sixteen and three in the playoffs, Like
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I know we're still playing.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Nobody want to give us our credit, but like the
ship we did last year was special.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Credit I don't know different anybody else is just like, hey,
as a Patiss fan, please tell me that we was
the hardest team.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
You know what I'm saying last shot in the post season.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
That big a dude go out of Celtic's Gary down for.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Luck. You can never.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
No, I mean I said, I'm a record for saying it,
Like yes, sir, the patience that was the hardest series
that we had last year.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Just like.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
How fast they played. They were subbing three people at
the time. Teacher mcconna was unreal at home, like was
doing over topping. Like the role players that they got,
they're just also selfless. They don't move, they don't stop moving.
Everybody played without the ball, and they just like they
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the way they play, they trying to.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
They like bait you into play how they play and
like that works for them.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
And you know, our thing is like we want to
get stops and defense and you look up the score
might be one hundred and thirty five, Like that's the
game that they want to play. And when they get
you playing that way, like they can beat anybody. And
you know, we came back in overtime. The first game,
Game three, was down nineteen in game four, we went
down to the wire like we swept them, but like
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every game we did tying.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
It was with all good games though for the most part,
like exciting games to be I should say.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
I give any a lot of credit. Like we was
dog tired after every game after that. Listen, we don't
get nice things offense. So they complimenced me to lots
of me.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Because this nigga still there be like like that.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
The way we start off this season, I don't know
if I could be happy this year or not. Man,
it's a thank for the word. That's all I did
right now now. When Drew first got traded from Milwaukee,
what I tell you we was gonna Winna, I told
you go get Drew got we got traded from it.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah, I said, go get Drewy're gonna win. He said,
I'm already on it. I know you wasn't. Man said
I'm on it. And then I seen it happen. I said, damn,
he was on it. He really got pulled over there
in the time of contact. No tempering. Yeah, man, I'm just.
Speaker 6 (53:33):
Saying though him joining the team, though, how was it, Bro?
Did you think like when you got there? Of course
I got aspirations of winning. But he was like, Noah,
this is gonna help us.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
No, I mean absolutely.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Drew was on the team with me in twenty twenty
one when he was in the Olympics fresh off he
just won a championship with the Bucks, came with us
and we wanted to go medal together. And I just
I understood at that time that Drew was like a
Swiss army night. He could yeah, guard the one through
the five. He could be on ball, he could play
off the ball. You put him in a dunker, he
can set screens, he can score on any matchup.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
He not like, you know, a team player.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
When the big games, he gonna do what he's supposed
to do, and not that he's gonna fall back, but
he just know how to how to play with you know, superstars,
and uh, he like the ultimate teammate. So when we
got Drew is definitely like our confidence roles are like, man,
we just felt that much better about what he's about
to do.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, as a Pacers fan, hating becuse y'are cheating. You're
not supposed to have Derek White Andrew and then switching
to you and JB.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
That's not fair, man, life ain't fair.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Many White got cold when he cut the hair.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
When he cut the hair, they had to pay for
that though, I mean they salary cap Man.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Tax bill is probably nuts.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Imagine. I know he's selling the tape for we were,
but boy, this tax bill is crazy. It's worth it, though, bro,
I mean, championships is for Shure worth it. But y'all
to a great story so far, for sure. I mean
I want to ask you what I'm saying having to
crazy summer. You know, I'm saying getting the dring? You know,
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matter how you come back motivated. Obviously you're a professional.
You come to hoop, but like having such accomplishments a
short amount time, what keeps you motivated and locked in
and coming to this season?
Speaker 3 (55:22):
I think for me, one thing is like, man, I'm
only twenty six.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
I think a lot of people, not some fans of
people in the media might view like, oh, you've been
in the championship, You've been in conference final, Like they.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Might think I'm older than what I am. Like, boy,
you look thirty. You kicked off early that I never
understood that. I'm like, why is it his fault? Because
he was successful early? Like you came in to the
league going like, don't aging for it? Are you get
mad at him for it? He was still killing.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
I mean, it's some truth to that.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Like, the expectation for me was just way higher because
I went to the Congresce Finals at twenty So for
me being twenty six, like I got a lot of
basketball left a lot and that feeling of winning the
championship and having that parade, it was like, man, I
want to do this ship again and again and again.
And you know, my favorite players, like the guys I
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looked up to, they didn't just win one championship like
they're coming to the League of.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
Like or make one All Star game, you know, so man.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
It'd be your own guys. That's what j T was
on the real one.
Speaker 7 (56:29):
He didn't say nothing about an All Star game, bro,
your own guys about.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Game, Like that's not a lot of people to say that. No,
I was just talking you got you got one of them.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
I was going to George, I'm back, that's good. Oh man,
Well sorry with begin nothing.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
Just like the motivation came from like, man, yeah, okay,
I understand the space that I'm in and trying to
maximize this window of like I want to be one
of the best players I ever played. And I understand
the window that I have right now and God will
and I stay healthy. That you know, I feel like
I put it in the time and effort to take
care of my body to you know, eat the right
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things and work on my game to be one of
the best. That you know, it's not just I don't
I want to be one of the best players to
ever play. And not to say that it's about rankings,
but I want to accomplish everything that's in front of me.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
I know he's about to, you know, get out of here.
Speaker 6 (57:44):
I want to ask you, like he speaks howl hor
for that's is God for real, how you feel about him?
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Man? See watching him win the championship with you, bro,
I know that was big.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
No, that's like easily one of my favorite, if not
my favorite teammate I ever had from a professional point,
like when I got drafted at nineteen. Seeing how Al
approach every practice day, every game day, every off day,
it's a testament to like his career. It's year eighteen
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and like it was year seventeen last year, and we
relied heavily on our to help us win a championship.
It's not a lot of people in year seventeen that's
starting on the team that's going to the finals.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
In that game three against Indiana, he had like eight three.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
I remember, and it's like we needed him to win
that game. So Al took me under his wing, you know,
since my first day, and you know somebody that's like
always been there for me, somebody I've learned a lot
from from the standpoint of like having a routine. I
got my routine from watching Al have a routine. That's
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why he's been in the league for so long and
been so successful. So Al is one of the best
people you would ever meet, one of the best players
Hall of Fame career and help him get over that top,
get over the top and win a championship was like
that was special.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Now. I was so happy for hour bro, because I
want the coolest dudes ever. Bro. He just do his job.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
He'll help you anything, give you any advice you want,
the best for everybody. So I knew when y'all got
him back, when Brad went back and got him, I
was like, man, y'all gonna have a special run.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
And he ain't stopping. No tim soon still going.
Speaker 2 (59:25):
Now, keep in that check, my boy, keep moving facts
fact before we got out here. Obviously, we know you
played to win championships, but do you have any personal
goals you can share with us the season?
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Man uh Man, I want to win another championship, brokay obviously,
like you want to win MVP, you want to first
team All NBA again, and those things and winning MVP
or wanting to have that as a goal, that's not
a negative thing.
Speaker 4 (59:51):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
If you you aspired to do that, you're playing at
a high level. You're playing a fishing, you're dominating. Your
team is one of the best, and even if you
don't win, right, it's only one person that can win,
but it's five people every year that's playing at an
NBB level for sure. So just trying to, you know,
continue to dominate, being more efficient and understanding that this
window we have, like trying to get better every day
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and you know, winning the championship and getting our ring
the other night was one of the coolest moments.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
And it's like, man, I want to do that ship
again and again again. For sure.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Man, listen, maybe get out here, man, we appreciate you.
Slide not this mans, He's on Netflix. Starting got my
wife watching Start in five and she was like, Jason's
a real serious dude. I said, don't believe that. That's
not He's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Like she was like, no, he's just so like mature.
I didn't know he was only twenty six. I'm like,
you think you call me immature?
Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
No, I ain't saying you fake, but I'm just saying
like you always that's why people think you older. You
carry yourself super like mature and put together like no shot,
but your clips against a clips is totally different.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Like I'm going and then you tell me yours, it's like,
well season, like yeah, come here son. You know, but
you always carried itself like I was like, no, that
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it's dope to watch your show man be on there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
For shore that now s new season, but definitely check
out the Start five you have. How was that process
of film of that man? Like you know what I'm saying.
Obviously you've always been a constant professional, but to let
people in like your personal life, that type of the
cameras always rolling, how.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Was that experience?
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Uh, it got better or you got used to it
as a season went on, Right, They did a good
job of like blending in with all the other cameras
that's always following you, having people at your house and
in your personal space and you know with family time, Uh,
it's different.
Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
And right I'm on camera, I'm more of a.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Reserved guy, like T said, like, yeah, that's I am
that person that they saw on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
But you know, I'm more open off the camera and
things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
But it was cool, and it was cool to be
a part of the first season that they documented, like, man,
they saw when I got covered two k they saw
when I won the championship sor so to be able
to look back years from now have those moments and
my mom was on there, my son, some of my
best friends and.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Just been on the first season like that. That was dope,
and you know, I was glad I was a part of.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I think the fire part about it is you got
to see all of the media excerpts of like people
like speaking down like you said, the high expectations, how
they spoke about you all year and for you to win,
especially when they documented it super far, because.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
It made a lot of people just deal with the
results of it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
And I mean that's like they never gonna stop talking
about what I realized in that moment when we won,
is like I thought I was gonna go on a
rent and like go back and everybody that ever had
something to say about me, And it's like he.
Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Was about to crash out.
Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
You think you are, Like he was like, man, when
we win, like I got receipts, and it's like, man,
that's not what this is about. Like when I w
I'm holding up the trophy, my mom, my grandma crying,
my son, I got my homies, I got eighteen thousand
people in the Standard. It's like, yeah, it's about the
people that supported you and rocking with you through the
ups and downs. It's like, regardless we win or not,
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like they still probably talk about me on first Take
tomorrow exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
That's never gonna go away. So I don't never trip
off U m v.
Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
P this year though, Bro, I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
You see how he was like, yeah, all that came
to his mom. He grabbed the trophy. I'm crashing out
the trophy, say something, Now, that's me. That's why, that's
why he.
Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Is Steven Day. We're coming for you, crashing out on
the fat. Yeah, yeah, I was fine. That was hard, bro.
I was hype for him, but he did that any thing.
We want group project. You know, see.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
What I'm saying, like neflix, So y'all you get to
see like he do this all day, bro, He joke
all day. That's why I get the joking from. I
started joking on them. I ain't joking the other team.
I joked on every change. Sure, man, we gotta get
out here, Jayson. We appreciate you man telling people that
can dropping news, the shoes man, the new Colorway dropping.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Uh we got a new Colorway dropping. What's this October?
I think the second week in November. Okay, so I
want my team. Yeah, Okay, Fike, we yeah, so maybe
we're not, but we got here, be here telling people
that Grass and Birks.
Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
We finally got the ship. Shot Club five.
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
We locked in. Appreciate the volume.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah,