May 21, 2025 • 50 mins
In this special on-the-road episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe hits the streets of Atlanta for an exclusive day in the life with none other than hip hop icon, entrepreneur, and proud ATL native — 2 Chainz. From the gym to the garage, and even his award-winning restaurant, we get an intimate look at the grind and mindset that power the Grammy-winning artist and part-owner of the Atlanta Hawks' G-League team.
Known for his distinctive style, sharp business acumen, and undeniable influence in pop culture, 2 Chainz proves he’s more than just a rapper — he’s a unifying force, a father, a husband, and a man of the people.
Tune in as 2 Chainz breaks down his intense workouts, explaining the difference between habit and hard work and how he stays sharp physically and mentally. Then, get a tour of his prized classic cars, including a ’72 Chevelle, a custom alligator-interior ride, and a sentimental Chevy truck reimagined for his late father, each with its own story — from horsepower to photo ops with Lil Wayne and plans for Barrett-Jackson.
Dive deep into the studio grind with 2 Chainz’s creative process, where convenience rules and freestyling captures the moment’s energy. He shares stories about his early connections with Ludacris, Lil Wayne, and how they shaped his artistry and business sense. From turning down a private jet invitation with Jermaine Dupri due to loyalty, to gifting Wayne red Gucci boots, his journey reveals lessons in trust, integrity, and hustle.
2 Chainz also talks candidly about business advice for artists, emphasizing passion over trendy passive income. He calls himself a “property hoarder,” revealing savvy real estate strategies that balance impulsive purchases with smart investments. His philosophy extends to forgiveness after a theft at his nail salon and how social media changes transparency.
He recalls his time being loosely affiliated with Kanye West’s G.O.O.D. Music and how Baby (from Cash Money) inspired him to start charging for features. Despite that, he maintains a strong work ethic, often turning around feature requests in a single day to demonstrate professionalism.
Hear 2 Chainz reflect on his youth in College Park, his rough encounters with the law, and how basketball saved him through tough times, even as he faced setbacks in college sports. His stories of loyalty, family, and love are deeply personal—from proposing to his wife on a big stage to balancing fame with fatherhood.
They discuss his work with Eminem, Drake, and the competitive studio environment where legends push each other to greatness. 2 Chainz shares insights on ghostwriting, sampling, and the importance of hearing the full song before clearing samples.
Get an insider look at his establishments, a glimpse into his life as a husband and father who values humor, support, and real connection.
The episode ends with reflections on Atlanta’s music scene, strip club culture as a music incubator, filmmaking ambitions, and lasting friendships with Atlanta legends.
This episode is a masterclass in authenticity, hustle, and legacy —from the mind of one of hip hop’s most respected voices.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shaysha on the Road.
The guy that's stopping by, well, we're following him around
in the day and the life of He's a hustler's hustler,
a man of the people, and a unifying force in Atlanta.
He's celebrated for his unique style and entrepreneur endeavors. He's
transcended music into fashion and philanthropy. He's a versatile entertainer,
a multi platinum artist, a Grammy Award winning hit maker,
(00:22):
a chart toppin songwriter, pop culture influencer, hip hop superstar,
a creator of anthem and trends, a rapper turned entrepreneur,
talented actor, hosts HBC lum athlete. He's part owner of
the Atlanta Hawks, NBA G League team, A prominent figure
in the community, an atl Icon, a proud father, a husband,
and here he is, Ladies and gentlemen, to change.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics hustle past
one slice.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
All my life.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all
my life, sacrifice hustle played the Bryson. One slice brought
all my life.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I ground in all my life, Gonna be a little
run down. Who did you meet first in the industry,
whether it Lula of with it Little Wayne. I met
Lula first.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Ludie used to work on the radio down here, right,
and you know, we had a mutual friend together, and
so I met Luda through that way, then eventually signing
to him, and then with Little Wayne. Some weed story,
but it's I had like gave baby some weed and
then like he hadn't paid me for it. So I
had went to New Orleans to collect on the weed.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, because it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Was only like nine hundred dollars or whatever, but the
fact that it was the time, you know, you had
the red like that, you have it like that, so
you don't know, I'm going down there for this, but
I'm following him down here, like uncle, I.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Need this, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Then I ended up meaning Wayne that way, and we
built a great relationship, right, kind of like smoking.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And Wayne didn't even know I rap for a while,
you know, didn't Luda know you rap? Yeah, he knew
I rapped, Okay, he knew I was trying to rap.
Trying to rap. Yeah, Wayne had no clue. He thought
maybe I just saw weed, so started telling him I did.
On the side rapidly is what I really tried to do,
and this is what I want to do, you know.
And then honestly, being around Wayne shaped me to be,
(02:18):
you know, the artist I am. Now.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Wayne had a made back with a driver, he had
a chef, so I was able to get around him
and pick up on certain instincts and certain things that
I felt like helped make him successful.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And it was convenience.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It was like having all these things around it you right, well,
you didn't have to do a lot, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You just need to focus now you can just focus
on one particular thing, being the best at what I
want to do.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So it's not a secret.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I got that directly from Wayne. The work ethic of
him just you know, studio every day, every night.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I got that from him.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You mentioned that being around Little Wayne, you saw you
have a Maybok and you saw he had a private chef.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You saw he had a certain thing, a level of convenience.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
What did you learn from Ludle because Louda had had
blown up at that time and now he's a household name.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What did you learn, if anything from that situation? Little
is very.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Business savvy, so I can say, I picked up a
lot of the business savviness from him and his team.
It was a product somewhere, it was product placement he
was getting paid for. He wasn't just holding a product, right,
know what I'm saying. He wasn't rapping about something.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That he not getting paid, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
So he was somebody that I guess I could say,
you know, kind of taught me how to monetize, you know,
things through music, right, you know, product or whatever it
could be.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Is it hard to really blow up when you signed
to someone else's label?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
No, I mean we saw Drake and NICKI was signed
to the Little Wayne, correct it is? I think Kanye
was under Yeah, So I think I think it just depends.
You know, sometimes it looks good the numbers, the more
you know, the strength of numbers, things kind of look.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It looks good if everybody's doing well.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
But you know, sometimes it's only room for this one
thing to go through this or two things, and if
you're not a part of that, you seem to get
put on the back burn and feel some type of way.
So just to cut the emotion out, let me just
be responsible for my own career and remember Tony told
you about the eight they gonna throw like you'll be hiccup.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You don't parking enough batlet if you going.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
But Wayne, Jermaine Dupria trying to sign you, what made you?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Why did you decide to say, you know what, I'm
gonna do this on my own.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Jermaine actually called me one time he had a whole
on three Way, and he tells the story different. He
said that I said it was a young man's game.
I don't even talk like that. But what I said
at the time was my manager who is my manager?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
He was a DJ, but like many other people, like
a DJ called he's bigger than a DJ. Most DJ
DJ drump a lot of DJ's mustard all. They should
just drop the DJ up there now people actually think
their name is DJ or so when I'm telling them
on the phone, they're trying to invite me somewhere like
(04:59):
that meet up with me, which I was like, still flattered,
like me and whole he would We'll talk about it
to this day.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You know what I'm saying, I don't know what would
have happened either way if I had the winner. You
know what I'm saying, I know what happened by me
not going, but I don't know what would have happened
if I would have winter. Yeah, So I said, you
know you're on't mind. I want to, you know, bring
one of my partners with me, who kind of been
helping me, you know, beat the concrete and get to
where I'm even on y'all radar. You know what I'm saying,
like it's you know what I mean, because I'm recognizing
(05:26):
that when they come. What happened is Tech and Charlie
my management at the time. They came to me and
they offered their assistance on the first thing they told
me was we think you're a superstar.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And I thought the same thing. So we already well okay, cool,
okay cool.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And then they told me like what they did for
another group, like we did this, we made this kind
of money for these type of folks. You know what
I'm saying, I'm like, oh, man, man, you can do
that with that type of stuff. I'm gonna see what
you can do with mine, you know. And you know
that might have been twenty ten, right, Okay, I get
to call around maybe I don't know, twenty eleven from
(06:08):
from JD and I just was saying, do you mind
if I bring you know, my partner?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Now, you don't need nobody with you. I want to
bring my partner. You know who, I'm thinking Tech Mike.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm not. I'm thinking JD might know someone, you know,
DJ Technique. They go, oh, man, boy, you don't need
to bring your DJ with you. You ain't got no
you know, it's kind of like a little joke a
little bit, but you ain't got no shore or nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm like, nah, you know, like, hon't be helping me?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
And you know, it was a situation where I don't
even know if it was calling my bluff or whatever,
but and I think they were sending me a jet.
I didn't get on the jet because they wouldn't let
me bring You know what I'm saying, who's helping me?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because Chris Brown told the same story that somebody wanted
to sign him and he was like fourteen fifteen. He said, okay, cool,
I just hey, hey, just tell my mama what.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You telling me? Like now, I don't need to talk
to your mom.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And he said, and sign with him, because like, bro,
you're talking to a kid, and if everything's on the
up and up, you can't tell my mom.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, so if everything is cool, you mean to tell
me I.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Can't bring my partner, somebody I trusted, I've been a
bound Yeah, and I'm you know, looking back, they don't
know that he was probably that to me, you know
what I'm saying, and probably looking like boy, you know,
this's a blessing and opportunity, you know what I'm saying.
And I got this book coming out. It should be
(07:27):
out like another year is getting edited right now, right.
The name of the book is the Voice inside your
head is God?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I talk about this in the book. Jad Now,
I don't talk about them by just talking about this instance,
oh me listening to the voice and wondering if it
led me in the right direction. Obviously I'm right here now,
But what happened if my if I say, I just
(07:56):
go on my own, and I don't know what would
have happened. But this is one instant.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, I listened to my voice and they said I
couldn't bring pray my dog, and I didn't. I didn't go,
but I always wondered what would have happened? You know?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Listening to this voice has got me Yes, yes, So
I don't you know why I'm questioning it, But I
do wonder sometimes.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Had they said you could bring it, would you have
gotten on that flight?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Absolutely, I answer, I wanted to get on the flight.
I definitely want to get on the flight, but I
almost wanted to be loyal to a part of that.
He an't kind of like that, that's all. How did
you get Wayne to hop on a song?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
What you doing? Man? Wayne? And he's just cool man
man Man? Him were friends, Like I said, we were friends.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
First it was a music based and then I remember
being if it wasn't a Maybaker, it was a fantom
And I told him I rapped and played you know,
some of some of the music, and we just bonded quickly.
We've been you know, he's one of my best men
at my wedding, so you know, anytime it's just it
was just been an any time thing for him. I've
been in the studio over him many times where he
I haven't wrapped one one second because he likes to
(09:01):
just do.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
What he does in the studio.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Then there's been many times that we get in and
kind of, you know what I'm saying, sharpen each other up.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So is it true you paid him? Eet on a
hundred fifty thousand for him to hop on the or
get your feature for double back.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yes, well, at this time Wayne was charging well baby
was charging one hundred and he was charging Wayne one hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
So how he charged he ain't on the song, but
he was over cash money.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So anybody when Wayne was so hot, if anybody wanted Wayne,
he would be like, I need a hundred two, and
people would obviously do absolutely, so Wayne does the song
for me for so this is really what happened. Wayne
used to wear like these skateboards. She's been staying a
long time, they call supers and something like this. And
I would wear stuff like Pradas and Gucci shoes and
(09:45):
all this stuff. And so I go to Gucci and
they got these red red Gucci's out. I'm like, hey, shorty,
what size shot he was? You know what I'm saying, boom,
You know, he represents Red Team and all that. So
I get these red Gucci's and I make him to
him at the studio. He don't know him about to
take it to him. But I also got like a
beat CD and I'm not doing this for the other thing,
(10:07):
but I just take it to him and he's like damn.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know what I'm saying. You know, you know all
if you know new other people, they say bitch a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You know what I'm saying, like, damn, bitch, this bitch
he's hard than the bitch. He bitch is hard, you
know whatever. So you know, I end up saying, man,
I hang out with him. I said, I got this.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
He already working. I give him this.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
It's a CD at the time. I give him a
beat CD. I give him a beat CD. Time goes
by Katrina happens, he moves to Miami. When he moves
to Miami, he's like me, you ought to come, you know,
come visit. You know what I'm saying, come home?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know what I mean? Boom.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I I catch a flight to Miami, and him and Cortez,
who was his manager at the time, they picked me up.
We go from the airport to the mall because he
is trying to, I guess, show his appreciation for me
buying them them shoes. And so now he like, what's
our show you at. Let's get all you know, let
me get this for you know whatever. And we're doing
that and then he after blue he says, what you
(11:05):
thought about the hook? I did for you, and I
don't know what he talking about. And he's like, I
said you. He asked us, did you emailing the song?
And he says, yeah, I didn't and he said email.
I'm like, that's not my email. And they said, oh, man,
I don't know what I did send this song to.
So so Wayne is little in the maw. He's like
(11:27):
trying to remember this is where we could go to
the mars. He was trying to remember the hook. He's like,
if I don't do nothing, he can't remember. So we
literally right there. He was like, let's go to the studio.
And we go to the studio, which was the Hit
Factory in Miami. It's a room he matches play. This
beat comes on and this.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Hook comes on, and I remember I remember at that
particular time knowing what a hit sounded like because it
just sounded yeah, so like and I looked at him
like some damn like like yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Said, man, you did that for me. He's like yeah,
I'm like I run out called my boy dollar. I'm
in play a circle at the time. Yeah, man, we
got us one. Like what I said, Man, home on here,
you know, I'm like home on here singing and everything, like,
I'm like, bro, this ship you know hard.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I got to get back to Atlanta. Bro, I'm gonna make.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Sure I come, you know, the next couple of days
I get up there.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know. That was it. That was it, man, And
it just really helped. You know, So you who got
to beat? So nah I got you know, I'm saying,
who do the email to beat? To the other looker,
I don't know. Somebody still got it hard.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I still got it. But when Wayne did that, he
didn't charge me. But so Baby was so it was
only gonna be just one hundred, not two hundred. They
will still wanted his hundred. Baby come to Atlanta, say nephew.
I said, what, we're gonna need some rooms, and we're
gonna need some I hit baby, oh man uh man man, man,
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unc tell me, man, don't even worry about it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
He said, don't even worry about it, man. And he
could tell like I had, like, don't even worry about it.
And he already knew who I was dealing with with,
you know, Lout.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And all those guys.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And he just told me, man, you know what I'm saying,
don't even worry about it. And I brought them to
god By Road on Old National, which is very very epic.
It's like bringing you know, it's like bringing a superstar
to any hood. Yeah know what I'm saying. Yeah, And
it was received very well. Had a lot of people
come out. That's some here, some no longer with us
from that era as well, and I haven't looked back.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Wow, Kanye tried to sign you to his his label,
didn't he?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I was a.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Like an indirect member of Good Music for sure. I
learned from that situation too. Yeah, try to learn from
every situation I get in you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, you mentioned that you was doing Verson for free,
and Kanye said, man, hey he charged on the band.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly what he did, and they
and they went up to a hunter right then and there.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I mean I could have been charging the whole time,
but it was like, man, I was just knocking that
junk out man at the time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
And still now.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
When somebody would ask me to do a future it
would be very important to give it back to them
like the same day. So it was more about me
just showing my level, the level of business and work
ethic that I had as far as I'm gonna get
this done, I'm gonna give back to you. I'm you know,
make sure I show up and show out and hopefully,
you know, I got somebody to handle the type of
(14:33):
business for me. But you know, when you you know,
it wasn't that I was just the first in the game.
It was just that I was, you know, becoming successful
at that time. And you know, when you get successful,
a lot of people gonna call your phone, you know,
ask for certain things. So I think I just wanted
to be like the dude that got on and wasn't
acting funny, you know what I'm yeah, Yeah, I think
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that's what it was like. Man, I ain't changed, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That's how I kind of and just try to play
by that right there. And then sometimes people try to
take advantage of that. People take your kindness all the time.
They'll play with you until they know they can't play
with you.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Sight Beef, Same Color on at the Strike and the
Least sailor Beaf dolls Over.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
And Kanye put you on one of his songs.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
When you featured on one of his songs, it's still huge,
But during that time, it was probably was at the
crescendo when when you get the call okay, Kanye Weeds,
it's a big and they want you on it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Do you I mean, do you like okay? Okay? Yeah?
So what what what Kanye?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
He reached out when I was like at at my
we had a studio on Old National fifty five forty
that was really like a trap, but it was a
it was a studio on the back and every day
a different artist was was was calling me.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And so.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
It's funny man er uh, one of my homeboys. He
he's no longer here, Rest in peace to the truth.
But he truth was like a hustler, you know what
I'm saying that he was trying to figure out a
way me knowing truth. He was trying to figure out
a way how he can get something out this this
this introduction, you know what I'm saying. And and what
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Yay had did was sent out a few different messages
on trying to get in contact with me. So it
was coming from a couple of different directions. And he
finally got me on the phone and our first time
ever talking on the phone, we probably talked just probably.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
More than an hour, and like it was almost two
hours it was. It was weird that we y'all talking
like y'all known each other for years exactly. That's how
that's how we got. This was the first conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Just didn't start with like, it didn't start with like
man likey stuff I like and stuff, and we got
to hook up. It just got to getting into other
stuff and talk about other things, and we built a
real cool rapport with that. I remember him being on
tour with with Jay at the time or about to
go on. But yeah, and then I got invited into
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a session in La where this is. It was a
hotel that that basically he he rents out the whole
floor and used it for a studio. So I'm there
with at the time Tianna Taylor and Sahai and a
few other artists that were affiliated with Good Music, And uh,
you know, I have a hotel. I have a room
(17:22):
across the street from the room they're using for a studio.
So I'm I'm just just right across the hall, right
across the hall, excuse me. And I go over there
and I do a verse, and I do the verse
fairly quick, you know what I'm saying. And I hear
the guy Chay, my homie Chay. He on the phone
where yeah, And I guess he telling him, man, he
he knocked it out, and he like he did?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
What what you mean I got? I hear.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I guess he's saying like he's he's done, and so
I guess he telling them pull up, pull up, pull
up something else. So he pull up something else and
I knock it out again, and I remember, I remember
sha at the time. He asked me like, well do
you have You must have had this verse rotter already
in your head. And I'm really like nah, I'm just
really like motivated. I'm coming in here im. You know,
I want to do something. I want to prove myself.
(18:01):
And so this happens about three or four times where
they tell me pull up another song, and you know,
I knock it out fast forward.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I go about my business.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I get a call they tell me a single gonna
drop tomorrow with you Kanye, Push and shun.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now, keep in mind, I've never heard the song before.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I've never heard it. When I did this song, it
didn't sound like this. This person wasn't on a ye going,
so I don't even so I'm like, man, can I
hear the song. So I hear the song and it's Mercy,
you know, And that's when I started realizing, like the
Magic Home possessed, because the song sounded nothing like that
when I did my verse too, you know, and would
(18:41):
go on and Mercy becomes, you know, whatever it becomes.
But yeah, that's like the beginning introduction of you know,
our relationship is mercy, your best version, what you think,
your best verse is what you on, who you on.
I actually think some of my best verses on my
latest project, really, which is cool to see because that's
(19:03):
cool to know that I hadn't like peaked out, you
know what I'm saying, I burnt that. I think the
project that I just dropped with Alchemists and Larry had
some of my best some of my best verses on it,
but I have some scattered around. My friend just sent
me a text message with the verse I did on
the school Boy Q record. He said it was like
seven eight years ago, which is the homie and I
(19:27):
think the storng I got with Gang I Love Boom
was hard.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Verse you called the Little Stirtle online where you say
you had the hardest.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Verse on Mercy. I did, though.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I did which camera should I look at I had
the hardest verse on Mercy. I had the hardest verse
on Mercy. I had the hardest version. I'm not trying
to be fun.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I did though. I did. Though I did. Though. Big
Jan called you and say, you had the hardest one
on Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Big Sean know that too. Though Big Sean ain't nothing
to play with it. First of all, Sean on once,
you know, but you know when it came at that
right there, man, I just took pride in it. You know,
is everybody from somewhere else, Sean from here, push from here,
yave me.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'm from the South of London, you know what I mean.
So it was just like that kind of life. It
was a nice mixture. Though it worked out real well.
It seemed like everybody been getting into it with Kanye.
Big Sean say, man, that man don't be money.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because he Kanye said that Jay making money off his catalog.
Big Sean said, well, you inate you know you got mine,
So what's the you don't have those problems?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, neither do I speak on anybody else's. I like that.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I like that how you get them somewhere? Ariana Grande inspire.
I inspired her to do something through that inspiration. She
reciprocated it by doing.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
A hook for me.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
So she had like when I did the pretty Girls
like trap music thing where everything was pink, and you know,
just I had the pink Trap House in Atlanta, which
inspired the Trap Museum the Ti has So I had
a museum that was pink. But like Tip told me
out in own mind, so he ended up. So that
was a lesson I kind of learned. But that was
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that inspiration. But it just some of the ideas that
I put out into the world inspire other things. And
so with the Ariana Grunde, it inspired her to do
her stage basically just like my all pink car all,
you know what I mean. And so I knew somebody
or it was somebody that knew both of us. It
was a mutual person that put us together because it
was just different, you know, if you get caught up
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into that social media step, you know, which I did,
and we communicated, we figured out a way to make it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Work for both of us, and it did. Who's someone
you haven't worked with that you'd like to work with.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I used to want to work with whole because I know,
you know, he does it when he wants to right,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, he ain't really that.
He got to be in that space.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
He got to be there.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
He got to be there, and I understand and respect that.
So I think I might have might have missed my opportunity. Yeah,
I'm you know, it might have just was a but
it's just a you know, you just respect him as
what he's done and everything. And then when I look
at you know, and think of all the people and
just listen to all the people you name, it's not
many people left that I hadn't done anything with brother
(22:13):
old or new. I just shot a video Ron Osley,
I had Ron Eisley, Man, I my mom Auntie. I
had Ron and Ernie on the block, Ernie playing a
guitar on more than more than that in front of
the corner store. So it's like, man, I'm just so
you know, blessed. But in that in that, in that,
in that vein, I guess the only person would be
(22:34):
left would be him. I've done something with like, I mean,
everyone else, but everyone else, man, all the all my favorites,
all the you know, I mean, I love Drake and Kearricter,
I love Scarface, I love you know, Eminem is such
a lyrical giant doing something with him, you know, all
all the and then you just talk about people that
(22:54):
just like this is what they want to do, rap
at a high level. And then you go to talking
about like just people who got something to do with
the culture, like you know, the Migos, Rest in Peace,
Takeoff and just being a part of like, you know,
just different generations of Atlanta. You know, Atlanta is someone
that's been just doing their thing for so long. Andre
three thousand, that's what you want.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
That's it, and that's it. And he doesn't really rap anymore. No,
he like he done.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
He don't really rap anymore. Because I heard him an interview.
That's who I actually just super love bro.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I love I heard on the interview he said at
his age, You're like, what are you rapping about?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, he'll make it sound cool though, Yeah, he'll make
it'll make it. He'll make It'll make somebody that don't
want to get no cold knots. He probably makes somebody.
You go get one because he's just man, He's just
a real cool Atlanta player.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I love, I love him and big Boy. Actually you
want a Grammy with chance to rap Her for no Problems?
What was that moment?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Like, man, it was one of the moments where I'm
gonna explain this, explain this in a way that you
can understand. So I was very happy to get the Grammy,
very very very excited. So when I my first platinum
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plak I got was no Lie right, and I was happy,
but it had Drake on her. And then the second
plaque I got, it was Birthday Song, and I was
happy because it was my song, but it had Yay
on it. My third platinum plaque was something different and.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
There was nobody on it. It was just me, my hood,
my verse. DJ Mussele did the beat.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
And when that went platinum, I got chill bumps because
I realized that a million people had bought my my
just my idea, you know. And so with the Grammy,
when I look in the mirror, I'm thankful for the GRAMM,
but I know, like you know, even though Chance didn't
know Wayne, I put Wayne on the song like that
was my God. He didn't know I might want it.
(25:03):
Did all that Chance came to my studio shot the video.
I was really helpful for it and thankful for it,
but it's Chance hung a right.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's a chance you want to grab me on your own. Man,
he's so smart, he's so intelligent. It's crazy.
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y'all won that Grammy over Fat Joe's All the Way Up.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Really, Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, Yeah, that was it.
That was I probably was so surprised because that song
on this All the Way.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah fat Joy when he put out one, he lets
you Yeah, it's one of them.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The story about Dre, like when you went and Dre
and you was trying to rap and he's like, Bro,
I can't I can't understand your dialect. Bro, what's Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I told you know, dra is a perfectionist and that's
why I guess you want to be around him, you know,
but he is a you know what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
It's like Dre.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
It's like rap is at a point now where you
it's like Ai but not AI. But it's quicker and faster.
And sometimes if if the end of a word is
not a nun said, it's still taking.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's like dope because it's a vibe. It's the energy.
Dra ain't going for that. He want to hit the
t you want to hit the dot on the ie.
I said, Man, I got an overbite, bro, I can't
some of this stuff just ain't gonna come through. Okay, Yeah,
and he he I think I'm finna just get a
couple of lives. He stopped me. No, no, no, go
back and and say that one again.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
But man, I really enjoyed being around Dre because of
obviously who he is is to the coach and who
he is yeah and man and the people around and
just he record every day whether he gonna put somebody,
and he worked hard. You know, he in the studio
going hard every day. I'm going to he playing full
songs that he with, a whole man, all type of instrumentation,
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a whole skit involved. I'm like, he like, I did
this three songs today. So it's it's cool to know
that he's still, you know, musically motivated.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
What's it like going to the studio with a Dre Because,
like you said, I mean, when it comes to this
hip hop, it ain't ain't any bigger than him.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I mean, you can he go back to the nw
A and then he brought it four.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Well, Dre, we got cool, We got cool quick.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
He showed me around the house. I'm into interior design.
So his house so figh, you know what I'm saying,
Home got fingerprint. I guess why I got my finger
print from man? I get something mayor you know what
I mean. He got the fingerprint, but he got the
real likes and you know, yeah, you really cut it off.
And and and you ain't gonna be got that. He
ain't that you did. So but he got all this stuff,
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and you know, then he got a gym kind of
the same bond, you know what I mean. And then
you know, I smoke, you know often, And so his
place had never been his studio. He was even saying,
like at the time, I don't even know snoop had
even been over there, but no one had smoked over there.
But he said, you know what changed, I'm gonna let
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you smoke man, and smoked.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
We just I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I should appreciate it because when I did work with Eminem,
I couldn't smoke in there. They put my when it
was time to work with Eminem. It was actually kind
of kind of funny. When it's time to work with Eminem,
they put and this is his people, It's not Eminem.
Eminem is somewhere right and he's not even standards, but
his people are just so concerned with him. They put
the speakers outside so I can listen to the beat.
So I'm outside, It's a beautiful day of Malibu. I'm
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just smoking the speakers outside. So then I come back
in and do my my verse and the doors closed,
and I'm and I'm I'm in the boot smoking and
I see M. I actually see him out out there,
so I'm liken he and here why I recording this hard?
And so he's about to like come in and say something,
and like some of these people like you know.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
No, you know, don't go in there.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
He's smoking, and M looks like the shit the down,
like y'all like what they I guess he was thinking
like what do you think I'm about to do? Like
you know, I guess he thinking like what you I
don't even know if that they'll let you know the time. No,
that's a DVD player. Yeah, that's a DVD player for
the DVD in to watch a movie. But I remember
them kind of like tripping on him being around and
(30:35):
he was not tripping at all. But other than that,
that's that's basically like all I need for a studio
a couple of joints.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know what I'm saying, I'm self motivated. I don't
need you need. I'm not gonna say he was instrumental
with Drake? What did I mean?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Cause Drake has helped a lot of people, and we
know what Drake you represent and you cool with Drake.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So how was that? How was that? How did that
relationship start?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Then?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
And then you working with him through Wayne? You know,
he was with cash money.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
So when I had when we had the song Dumble
Bad Boys, Wayne was on tour, it was called IM
Music Tour. When he went on tour, the first night
he went on tour, he did he wrapped my Verse
to Double Bad Boys on stage, like somebody had told
me in Florida. So I'm calling him like bro, and
(31:26):
he was like, man, you need to come out here
because I can't just stop after the hook. People know
your verse type stuff, you know what I'm saying. So
that was like an indirect invitation. And when I went
on tour with him, I met Draking a few other people,
you know what I'm saying, and NICKI and all of
those people. So that was maybe like oh eight oh
nine met him, and you know, we all did a
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tour together, so that's how those stuff come back.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You but you the song you like and I heard
you talk about it, you like, I ain't got nothing
to do it. Man, the man put my name in
the song. I thought it was cool, But I ain't
got nothing with that dish and stuff, because I guess
Drake means a lot to the culture. I mean, savagees
work with him, You've worked with him. I'm trying to
think who else has worked with Drake that I know
if off the top of my head, but it's been
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about five that Atlanta rappers. I mean, Drake is huge
with Atlanta culture.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
God love it.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's not even that. It's
just like when people ask me how I felt about
my name, It's like.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, I did you what?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
What what do you want me to I don't even
have an answer. I don't have zero feeling about it.
I have zero emotion on it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I have zero because this is.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
What happens, right, this is, this is, this is exactly
what happened. If he say your name, you you you you,
you feel a certain way. If he don't say your name,
you're gonna feel a certain right. You know how many
people from Atlanta he could have said, okay, and and
and this vice versa. So while I'm gonn get into
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a thing of man I'm glad or man I wish
he wondered, like it really, really, I really have zero,
zero zero emotion about my name, I said, if you
really want to know, people have probably said two chains
in their rap.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't know. I guess it just rhymes with a
couple of different things, you know, a few a few times.
I hear it a lot, you know what I mean?
So it don't it don't bother me, man, I ain't
getting caught up in how about this where you gonna
go writing? I've never had it? Had it goes right?
Are you out on it? You just never have it?
Or you don't feel that, okay if you are.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Because I hear a lot of people say if you're
a true mc LLL say here a true mc. This
one says they're true EMCs, true mcs right their own verses.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
So I've thought about this a couple of times because
when I think about Michael Jackson and Beyonce, who've all
had writers right and hit hits off these writers, and
then here I am my stuff every night. Who's doing
it the right way?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't know. I don't have an answer for that,
so I can't as bad as I want to be.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Like man, my confidence lies with me knowing that no
one helped me articulate this idea or get this metaphor.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Hour like I came up with these words.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
But at the same time, my pride hadn't let me
accept the song from somebody and read I won't even
do if somebody has a hook and they say I
would like for you to read if I didn't come
up with the hook, I don't even say it.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Wow. Yeah, somebody said, man, I won't you say damn, damn,
I ain't. I'm sorry, brother, Like I'm sorry, it ain't me.
You know, it's got to be you.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah, because somebody like they'll think they'll hear me saying
something like this, but I'm just I'm gonna do it.
So yeah, everything has very much been me. But like
I say, I don't know if that's the right or
the wrong way, because I mean, I'm here that's just
not your way.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, But this is just how I been operate, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
But when I really sit back and think so many
people has had writers help them get over some other place,
you know. And but I can honestly look in the mirror,
and that's one of the things. I could look at
the mirror and kind of be a priest above too, Like, man,
every everything that y'all heard in the universe has been
from from from me?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Internal line. Would you ghost write for an artist? I would, Yeah,
I have before? Who have you? Yeah? Sampling. I love sampling,
I do. I love, I love, I love, but I
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love to create.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I love to create a part of taking I love
piece of something and modernizing it, upgrading it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Like I love.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I love sample, especially like feel good sample soul for
sample stuff like I don't know, you might've heard as
a kid or whatever, and they've been able to chop
that up and then add some to it. I like samples.
Original originality is dope too. If you can make a
beat from scratch, I rock with that. But I like samples.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
If somebody were to sample one of yours, do they
do they do?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
They need to play you the song or you like, hey,
they call you off, they change I want to sample there,
and you're like, okay, it's gonna cast you x Y
and z or do you need to hear the song
before you like.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm always hit the song. I'm always hit a song.
You don't want nobody puting no boobo on your track.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
But even if they put booboo, I don't want to.
I want to hear a song. I want to be
affiliated with nothing. You know, crazy, right, But if the
song is booboo, I still make clear because I know
what it's like for my song not to be clear.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I know what that feeling like.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
So I figure out a way for it to make
sense for me a long as it's not a huge
interpolation of what I did. If it's something small, whatever,
I ain't really tripping on that because it's just a
way to you know, kind of you know, kind of
keep keep.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
My algorithm going back. Doylar Creative recently showed you some love.
Are people slipping on your peeing change? Yeah? But that's
cool though. I mean Tyler's though too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I just took to my daughters to see his concert
and he gave mission shout out while he was on stage,
and that was that was cool?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
You know today is it's dope for people who have
that kind of impact right till.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You know throw some shine on something as opposed to shade, right,
And so when he did that, I looked at this
as he was, you know, throwing some shine on something.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Welcome home, Shake Man, Welcome home Claire.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I switched whips in the am, picked up the bagel
with the cream cheese. When I played, I didn't get
an opportunity to really enjoy it because I was so
caught up in the journey. I wasn't really concerned with
the destination. And then once I ride to the destination,
which was when I completed my career, now I get.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Back like man, I did that. I had a great
blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Do you have an opportunity do you sit back and
just think about what you have accomplished in your young career?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
No, I think that's one of the that's something that
I think I started feeling a little late in my career.
I didn't become really successful till I was in my thirties.
And then I think by taking me so long to
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become successful, I didn't want to celebate break too much.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I didn't want to go on vacation. I didn't want to,
you know, take the time to.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Like reflect, look back or even judge why I was
currently and so now as I started to get older
and understand, you know, how life works and how the
universe works, I really wish I would have spent more
time in that in those places like and not just
like figuratively speak, and I'm talking about internalizing what I
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was doing at the time, you know. But I'm still
here and confident that I can make some more waves
and experiences along my journey.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
We're here in candy Land for your forty sixth birthday.
You bought yourself a strip club. Of all the birthday
for others, you could have gifted yourself, why an adult entertainments?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I mean, why not?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You know, this was a once in a lifetime opportunity.
How this whole thing came about, it was just God involved,
you know what I'm saying. Anybody from Atlanta would be
interested in having something to do with a strip club
because it's a major fixture in the city.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
But you're not able to open up any strip clubs
unless you have a dance and permit, which they stopped
even your issue on them in ninety three. Wow, So
you would have to actually buy one from someone who
has one, or get grandfather then, and so.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I was able.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
My partner was already in the midst and in a
situation to where he was starting that process, and God
just put me in the picture at the right time,
at the right place, at the right time, like me
and you discuss them, and so that's what happened. I
ended up being at the right place at the right time.
I didn't put all my eggs in the basket. I
put a lot of them in the basket for this one.
(40:27):
And I just feel like it's one of those things.
Is it's going to be around. You know, we have food,
it's entertainment, and you know I tell the dancers that
that you are entertainers, you know what I'm saying. So
you have a fan base as well. You know, it's
always cool to try to you know what I'm saying,
spread some game. Yeah, here we go, we.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Show people the food. You man so greedy. Look at this.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Like these seemed like like hot, like hot, These seem
like lemon pepper, these seem like barb I don't know
what else. A little look like the mesquite yeah stuff,
yeah yeah, but I'm oh, we got fries over here.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You know, I love them. Sure you'll y'all see this.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
And since Shane is doing such a great job and
promoting my product, let's not forget my brother got his
own yack, he just won award. He told me about gold,
got gold medal or something. So you know, I don't
even let me tell you something. Don't even worry about
what I don't do. I'm finna go here with it.
I'm gonna go ahead with it. I'ma go ahead with it.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Let me try. What do you do? You don't drink,
you swirl around, you swirl around. Then what we'll call it?
Nosing it? Nosing it? Yes, now that I've done that
with red wine before, well does this let it breathe
more so? Yeah, this stuff in barrels. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
In order for it to be a Kangynak, it has
to originate in the region for at least two years.
So it has to grow up in the Cognac region.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Great.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
This is an Uni blanc mixture with a petite champagne.
Each region in Kanyac had a particular type of grape.
And according to how you want your contract Kanyac to
taste you that kind of great, And so this is
a Uni blanc grape, a very proper. Probably I think
maybe seventy percent of the grace that's in that region
is a uni bloc great with a petite champagne. This
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is a bsop, very special, old pale bsop has to
be aged between four and six years. Wow, and then
as you're gone up and you know, so forth and song.
So we think we've done a great job. Lapotier is
my grandmother's porter in French. Shae my name and so
shaved by Lapotier.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
So how long have you had this kanyac? We came out,
We tried to come out in two thousands.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Then the pandemic happened. And it's funny is that this
bottle wasn't the original bottle. We had a bottle using
a company Italy, and they go back during the pandemic,
so we had to scratch that. Now we weren't able
to come out in twenty twenty, so now we had
to push it back to twenty twenty one. So now
they're sending me products all through the mail. I'm sampling,
(43:12):
I'm tasting. I'm like, okay, I like this, and my
partners and I like, what are we going for? We
want something to taste. Good people are gonna buy it.
It's like, yeah, that's the end goal. But we want
to produce an award winning kanyak. And now we won
fourteen awards. We won the Simple Award, which is the
highest award you can win because it's a blind taste test,
and again we want another taste test today.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
The only kanyak that won.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
So without even starting to process, your partner in this
knew that the end goal was award.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yes, I guess he said, everything else will fall, everything else,
everything else.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
If you can get award, everybody. Yeah, yes.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
And it's a vsop that drinks like an XO X
it's extra old XXO.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
It's extra extra old.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And then you start getting into the specialty Kanye actually
stuff that's barrowed twenty five, you know, fifty years as
a matter of fact, that we went over there this
past June and June the twenty four and a guy
had kgnact that was in a barrel that was pre
Civil war.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
He let us taste it.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, they keep I mean, because everything is it has
to go through the process. It has to be because
our cognact is very unique. We don't add color, we
don't ask sugar. It's this how is how it comes
out of barrel. This is how it comes out of barrow.
We're a small batch. We can control it. You see
your mom cooking for ten people, it's gonna taste different
than she's cooking for a thousand people. So when you
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try to cook something, so now we can control the taste.
That's why you get the consistency. And that's when you
become great at something where you're consistent at it. Yeah,
so congratulations on everything you've You've been very consistent.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Thank you, brother, appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
That's a good Kannyac there. I promise you nobody's gonna
beat us on the market. We don't talk about anybody else.
We just tell you what we do, and what we
do we do very well.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah. Yeah, you know we gotta get it in candy.
We gotta get it in your step.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah easy. See that's easy. You when you own something,
it's like it's easy. I can really make that happen
right now. If you had a case something, Oh, we
get that. So this is Kanyak. This is Kanyac.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
See it has to originate because see, you like wines
can start anywhere. You can have wine from California you
can have an organ. They can be all over the place,
but they call it the Kanyak. It has to originate
the first two years in that region in Kanyac. It
has to brew, go through the copper pot. It has
to be stored in the wooden barrels. Yes, the vsop.
In order for you to call it a vsop, it
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got to be four to six year four to six
years of age, just setting up in a barrel, sitting
there marinateing.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Does that make get stronger?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Well, it's the process in which it goes through. Because
you know, you have the grape, you have a certain amount,
and it's a blend because as you like, we got
another one coming out that's a that's a premium, that's
a step above this.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
And as you.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Start to blend, it gets more and more expensive because
you're blending older and older cognacs to try to get
the space the blend that you particularly want. So you
might be blending something that was, you know, say ten
years old, with something that's fifteen years old. There's something
that's twenty years old, and you're trying to do x amount.
But like, because we're a small batch, we do really
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really well. We've done really well. People have been very
receptive when they taste it, they know there's a lot
of love, there's a lot of care, there's a lot
of support that's going in.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
You can hear that when you describe it. Honestly, I'm
not still a big Kanye drinking. But it was smooth.
It was smooth, and you know, the trend is whatever
it is right now? More shot. I was supposed to
sip it or take a shot of it, just a
little sip of it. Yeah. Now, if I was to
add a drop of water, it'll open up the body.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
You're supposed to actually d drop a drop of water,
not an ice cue, because the ice cue, you can't
control the milk. Because of the ice cue, melt is
more than what you intended to get in there. So
what a drop You get to control how much water
actually goes in and it opens up the body.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
What about a juice would do?
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Oh? Yeah, well do it? Here's the thing. Would you
drink juice with your Kanye? No?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I Now, and over there they drink ginger ale. They
mix it with ginger ale. That was the big thing
over there that I didn't know Kanyak and ginger Al. Yes,
but it makes a great sidecar. We have drinks like determination, discipline, determined,
dedication or things that a factor that are that are
really important to me and how I kind of got
to where I got. We have drinks. We have a
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mixed sologist in the house, mixedologists, and his job is
to come up with drink with specialty drinks, not just
to Kanye. Now you can drink it by itself because
a lot of times people they do mixed drink, they
try to hide it cause you ain't your your your thing.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Ain't that good? Okay? We really good?
Speaker 4 (48:05):
We staying behind it. Yeah, we would prefer like a shift.
Don't add no season to my dish.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
When I send that stea guy there, I don't send
ketch up with me. They don't like that because I
already know what it is. Yeah, they don't like that.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
And the real shit, we know, we know what this is,
so we st we staying behind that. So let me
ask you.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
That's what I want to know. You go home, You're like, oh, man,
my forty sixth birthday. Man, I think I'm gona have me.
I think I'm having me on an adult entertainment, How
you explain that to them, to mama. My mama was saying,
how't talk about your mama. I'm talking about your girl.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, we we like minded. That's why we're together. Okay, okay,
see about that. You go to see it on that paper. Chill.
We got them in here. We come here together, really, absolutely,
we come here together. It's just sometime I parted your
hard and it'd be hard for her to recover a
couple of day. But we come out we hanging together.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
This ain't no secret, Like I wouldn't even try to
play like that, right, Yeah, so we come up, we
had all together, have a few dreams whatever, you know,
whatever we do is we shut the same like similarities.
And I think that's what that's what worked in most relationships,
is that's what you were you tour, So how did
you know she was the one? Eh man, it's just
beautiful man, beautiful inside and out. And and I remember
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she used to go to church and take notes and stuff.
Really I thought that was so interesting and so cool.
And then maybe look at him here and there so
just a guard hearing woman who was just super angelic
like personality.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
And you know, we laugh every day. We got some
beautiful kids. Out this deal and just just kept moving.
I knew you know what you wo'd you guys meet.
We've been knowing each other twenty We've been know each other.
Who made the first move I did?
Speaker 1 (49:55):
This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
is also posted, and you can access to whichever podcast
platform you just listen to Part one on. Just simply
go back to club profile and I'll see you there.
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shaysha on the Road.
The guy that's stopping by, well, we're following him around
in the day and the life of He's a hustler's hustler,
a man of the people, and a unifying force in Atlanta.
He's celebrated for his unique style and entrepreneur endeavors. He's
transcended music into fashion and philanthropy. He's a versatile entertainer,
a multi platinum artist, a Grammy Award winning hit maker,
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a chart toppin songwriter, pop culture influencer, hip hop superstar,
a creator of anthem and trends, a rapper turned entrepreneur,
talented actor, hosts HBC lum athlete. He's part owner of
the Atlanta Hawks, NBA G League team, A prominent figure
in the community, an atl Icon, a proud father, a husband,
and here he is, Ladies and gentlemen, to change.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics hustle past
one slice.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
All my life.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all
my life, sacrifice hustle played the Bryson. One slice brought
all my life.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I ground in all my life, Gonna be a little
run down. Who did you meet first in the industry,
whether it Lula of with it Little Wayne. I met
Lula first.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Ludie used to work on the radio down here, right,
and you know, we had a mutual friend together, and
so I met Luda through that way, then eventually signing
to him, and then with Little Wayne. Some weed story,
but it's I had like gave baby some weed and
then like he hadn't paid me for it. So I
had went to New Orleans to collect on the weed.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, because it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Was only like nine hundred dollars or whatever, but the
fact that it was the time, you know, you had
the red like that, you have it like that, so
you don't know, I'm going down there for this, but
I'm following him down here, like uncle, I.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Need this, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Then I ended up meaning Wayne that way, and we
built a great relationship, right, kind of like smoking.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And Wayne didn't even know I rap for a while,
you know, didn't Luda know you rap? Yeah, he knew
I rapped, Okay, he knew I was trying to rap.
Trying to rap. Yeah, Wayne had no clue. He thought
maybe I just saw weed, so started telling him I did.
On the side rapidly is what I really tried to do,
and this is what I want to do, you know.
And then honestly, being around Wayne shaped me to be,
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you know, the artist I am. Now.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Wayne had a made back with a driver, he had
a chef, so I was able to get around him
and pick up on certain instincts and certain things that
I felt like helped make him successful.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And it was convenience.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
It was like having all these things around it you right, well,
you didn't have to do a lot, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You just need to focus now you can just focus
on one particular thing, being the best at what I
want to do.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So it's not a secret.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I got that directly from Wayne. The work ethic of
him just you know, studio every day, every night.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I got that from him.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You mentioned that being around Little Wayne, you saw you
have a Maybok and you saw he had a private chef.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You saw he had a certain thing, a level of convenience.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
What did you learn from Ludle because Louda had had
blown up at that time and now he's a household name.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What did you learn, if anything from that situation? Little
is very.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Business savvy, so I can say, I picked up a
lot of the business savviness from him and his team.
It was a product somewhere, it was product placement he
was getting paid for. He wasn't just holding a product, right,
know what I'm saying. He wasn't rapping about something.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That he not getting paid, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
So he was somebody that I guess I could say,
you know, kind of taught me how to monetize, you know,
things through music, right, you know, product or whatever it
could be.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Is it hard to really blow up when you signed
to someone else's label?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
No, I mean we saw Drake and NICKI was signed
to the Little Wayne, correct it is? I think Kanye
was under Yeah, So I think I think it just depends.
You know, sometimes it looks good the numbers, the more
you know, the strength of numbers, things kind of look.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It looks good if everybody's doing well.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
But you know, sometimes it's only room for this one
thing to go through this or two things, and if
you're not a part of that, you seem to get
put on the back burn and feel some type of way.
So just to cut the emotion out, let me just
be responsible for my own career and remember Tony told
you about the eight they gonna throw like you'll be hiccup.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You don't parking enough batlet if you going.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
But Wayne, Jermaine Dupria trying to sign you, what made you?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Why did you decide to say, you know what, I'm
gonna do this on my own.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Jermaine actually called me one time he had a whole
on three Way, and he tells the story different. He
said that I said it was a young man's game.
I don't even talk like that. But what I said
at the time was my manager who is my manager?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
He was a DJ, but like many other people, like
a DJ called he's bigger than a DJ. Most DJ
DJ drump a lot of DJ's mustard all. They should
just drop the DJ up there now people actually think
their name is DJ or so when I'm telling them
on the phone, they're trying to invite me somewhere like
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that meet up with me, which I was like, still flattered,
like me and whole he would We'll talk about it
to this day.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You know what I'm saying, I don't know what would
have happened either way if I had the winner. You
know what I'm saying, I know what happened by me
not going, but I don't know what would have happened
if I would have winter. Yeah, So I said, you
know you're on't mind. I want to, you know, bring
one of my partners with me, who kind of been
helping me, you know, beat the concrete and get to
where I'm even on y'all radar. You know what I'm saying,
like it's you know what I mean, because I'm recognizing
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that when they come. What happened is Tech and Charlie
my management at the time. They came to me and
they offered their assistance on the first thing they told
me was we think you're a superstar.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And I thought the same thing. So we already well okay, cool,
okay cool.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And then they told me like what they did for
another group, like we did this, we made this kind
of money for these type of folks. You know what
I'm saying, I'm like, oh, man, man, you can do
that with that type of stuff. I'm gonna see what
you can do with mine, you know. And you know
that might have been twenty ten, right, Okay, I get
to call around maybe I don't know, twenty eleven from
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from JD and I just was saying, do you mind
if I bring you know, my partner?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Now, you don't need nobody with you. I want to
bring my partner. You know who, I'm thinking Tech Mike.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm not. I'm thinking JD might know someone, you know,
DJ Technique. They go, oh, man, boy, you don't need
to bring your DJ with you. You ain't got no
you know, it's kind of like a little joke a
little bit, but you ain't got no shore or nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm like, nah, you know, like, hon't be helping me?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
And you know, it was a situation where I don't
even know if it was calling my bluff or whatever,
but and I think they were sending me a jet.
I didn't get on the jet because they wouldn't let
me bring You know what I'm saying, who's helping me?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because Chris Brown told the same story that somebody wanted
to sign him and he was like fourteen fifteen. He said, okay, cool,
I just hey, hey, just tell my mama what.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You telling me? Like now, I don't need to talk
to your mom.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And he said, and sign with him, because like, bro,
you're talking to a kid, and if everything's on the
up and up, you can't tell my mom.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, so if everything is cool, you mean to tell
me I.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Can't bring my partner, somebody I trusted, I've been a
bound Yeah, and I'm you know, looking back, they don't
know that he was probably that to me, you know
what I'm saying, and probably looking like boy, you know,
this's a blessing and opportunity, you know what I'm saying.
And I got this book coming out. It should be
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out like another year is getting edited right now, right.
The name of the book is the Voice inside your
head is God?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I talk about this in the book. Jad Now,
I don't talk about them by just talking about this instance,
oh me listening to the voice and wondering if it
led me in the right direction. Obviously I'm right here now,
But what happened if my if I say, I just
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go on my own, and I don't know what would
have happened. But this is one instant.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, I listened to my voice and they said I
couldn't bring pray my dog, and I didn't. I didn't go,
but I always wondered what would have happened? You know?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Listening to this voice has got me Yes, yes, So
I don't you know why I'm questioning it, But I
do wonder sometimes.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Had they said you could bring it, would you have
gotten on that flight?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Absolutely, I answer, I wanted to get on the flight.
I definitely want to get on the flight, but I
almost wanted to be loyal to a part of that.
He an't kind of like that, that's all. How did
you get Wayne to hop on a song?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
What you doing? Man? Wayne? And he's just cool man
man Man? Him were friends, Like I said, we were friends.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
First it was a music based and then I remember
being if it wasn't a Maybaker, it was a fantom
And I told him I rapped and played you know,
some of some of the music, and we just bonded quickly.
We've been you know, he's one of my best men
at my wedding, so you know, anytime it's just it
was just been an any time thing for him. I've
been in the studio over him many times where he
I haven't wrapped one one second because he likes to
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just do.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
What he does in the studio.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Then there's been many times that we get in and
kind of, you know what I'm saying, sharpen each other up.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So is it true you paid him? Eet on a
hundred fifty thousand for him to hop on the or
get your feature for double back.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yes, well, at this time Wayne was charging well baby
was charging one hundred and he was charging Wayne one hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
So how he charged he ain't on the song, but
he was over cash money.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So anybody when Wayne was so hot, if anybody wanted Wayne,
he would be like, I need a hundred two, and
people would obviously do absolutely, so Wayne does the song
for me for so this is really what happened. Wayne
used to wear like these skateboards. She's been staying a
long time, they call supers and something like this. And
I would wear stuff like Pradas and Gucci shoes and
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all this stuff. And so I go to Gucci and
they got these red red Gucci's out. I'm like, hey, shorty,
what size shot he was? You know what I'm saying, boom,
You know, he represents Red Team and all that. So
I get these red Gucci's and I make him to
him at the studio. He don't know him about to
take it to him. But I also got like a
beat CD and I'm not doing this for the other thing,
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but I just take it to him and he's like damn.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know what I'm saying. You know, you know all
if you know new other people, they say bitch a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You know what I'm saying, like, damn, bitch, this bitch
he's hard than the bitch. He bitch is hard, you
know whatever. So you know, I end up saying, man,
I hang out with him. I said, I got this.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
He already working. I give him this.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
It's a CD at the time. I give him a
beat CD. I give him a beat CD. Time goes
by Katrina happens, he moves to Miami. When he moves
to Miami, he's like me, you ought to come, you know,
come visit. You know what I'm saying, come home?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know what I mean? Boom.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I I catch a flight to Miami, and him and Cortez,
who was his manager at the time, they picked me up.
We go from the airport to the mall because he
is trying to, I guess, show his appreciation for me
buying them them shoes. And so now he like, what's
our show you at. Let's get all you know, let
me get this for you know whatever. And we're doing
that and then he after blue he says, what you
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thought about the hook? I did for you, and I
don't know what he talking about. And he's like, I
said you. He asked us, did you emailing the song?
And he says, yeah, I didn't and he said email.
I'm like, that's not my email. And they said, oh, man,
I don't know what I did send this song to.
So so Wayne is little in the maw. He's like
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trying to remember this is where we could go to
the mars. He was trying to remember the hook. He's like,
if I don't do nothing, he can't remember. So we
literally right there. He was like, let's go to the studio.
And we go to the studio, which was the Hit
Factory in Miami. It's a room he matches play. This
beat comes on and this.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Hook comes on, and I remember I remember at that
particular time knowing what a hit sounded like because it
just sounded yeah, so like and I looked at him
like some damn like like yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Said, man, you did that for me. He's like yeah,
I'm like I run out called my boy dollar. I'm
in play a circle at the time. Yeah, man, we
got us one. Like what I said, Man, home on here,
you know, I'm like home on here singing and everything, like,
I'm like, bro, this ship you know hard.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I got to get back to Atlanta. Bro, I'm gonna make.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Sure I come, you know, the next couple of days
I get up there.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know. That was it. That was it, man, And
it just really helped. You know, So you who got
to beat? So nah I got you know, I'm saying,
who do the email to beat? To the other looker,
I don't know. Somebody still got it hard.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I still got it. But when Wayne did that, he
didn't charge me. But so Baby was so it was
only gonna be just one hundred, not two hundred. They
will still wanted his hundred. Baby come to Atlanta, say nephew.
I said, what, we're gonna need some rooms, and we're
gonna need some I hit baby, oh man uh man man, man,
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unc tell me, man, don't even worry about it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
He said, don't even worry about it, man. And he
could tell like I had, like, don't even worry about it.
And he already knew who I was dealing with with,
you know, Lout.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And all those guys.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And he just told me, man, you know what I'm saying,
don't even worry about it. And I brought them to
god By Road on Old National, which is very very epic.
It's like bringing you know, it's like bringing a superstar
to any hood. Yeah know what I'm saying. Yeah, And
it was received very well. Had a lot of people
come out. That's some here, some no longer with us
from that era as well, and I haven't looked back.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Wow, Kanye tried to sign you to his his label,
didn't he?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I was a.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Like an indirect member of Good Music for sure. I
learned from that situation too. Yeah, try to learn from
every situation I get in you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, you mentioned that you was doing Verson for free,
and Kanye said, man, hey he charged on the band.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly what he did, and they
and they went up to a hunter right then and there.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I mean I could have been charging the whole time,
but it was like, man, I was just knocking that
junk out man at the time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
And still now.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
When somebody would ask me to do a future it
would be very important to give it back to them
like the same day. So it was more about me
just showing my level, the level of business and work
ethic that I had as far as I'm gonna get
this done, I'm gonna give back to you. I'm you know,
make sure I show up and show out and hopefully,
you know, I got somebody to handle the type of
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business for me. But you know, when you you know,
it wasn't that I was just the first in the game.
It was just that I was, you know, becoming successful
at that time. And you know, when you get successful,
a lot of people gonna call your phone, you know,
ask for certain things. So I think I just wanted
to be like the dude that got on and wasn't
acting funny, you know what I'm yeah, Yeah, I think
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that's what it was like. Man, I ain't changed, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That's how I kind of and just try to play
by that right there. And then sometimes people try to
take advantage of that. People take your kindness all the time.
They'll play with you until they know they can't play
with you.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Sight Beef, Same Color on at the Strike and the
Least sailor Beaf dolls Over.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
And Kanye put you on one of his songs.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
When you featured on one of his songs, it's still huge,
But during that time, it was probably was at the
crescendo when when you get the call okay, Kanye Weeds,
it's a big and they want you on it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Do you I mean, do you like okay? Okay? Yeah?
So what what what Kanye?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
He reached out when I was like at at my
we had a studio on Old National fifty five forty
that was really like a trap, but it was a
it was a studio on the back and every day
a different artist was was was calling me.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And so.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
It's funny man er uh, one of my homeboys. He
he's no longer here, Rest in peace to the truth.
But he truth was like a hustler, you know what
I'm saying that he was trying to figure out a
way me knowing truth. He was trying to figure out
a way how he can get something out this this
this introduction, you know what I'm saying. And and what
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Yay had did was sent out a few different messages
on trying to get in contact with me. So it
was coming from a couple of different directions. And he
finally got me on the phone and our first time
ever talking on the phone, we probably talked just probably.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
More than an hour, and like it was almost two
hours it was. It was weird that we y'all talking
like y'all known each other for years exactly. That's how
that's how we got. This was the first conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Just didn't start with like, it didn't start with like
man likey stuff I like and stuff, and we got
to hook up. It just got to getting into other
stuff and talk about other things, and we built a
real cool rapport with that. I remember him being on
tour with with Jay at the time or about to
go on. But yeah, and then I got invited into
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a session in La where this is. It was a
hotel that that basically he he rents out the whole
floor and used it for a studio. So I'm there
with at the time Tianna Taylor and Sahai and a
few other artists that were affiliated with Good Music, And uh,
you know, I have a hotel. I have a room
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across the street from the room they're using for a studio.
So I'm I'm just just right across the hall, right
across the hall, excuse me. And I go over there
and I do a verse, and I do the verse
fairly quick, you know what I'm saying. And I hear
the guy Chay, my homie Chay. He on the phone
where yeah, And I guess he telling him, man, he
he knocked it out, and he like he did?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
What what you mean I got? I hear.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I guess he's saying like he's he's done, and so
I guess he telling them pull up, pull up, pull
up something else. So he pull up something else and
I knock it out again, and I remember, I remember
sha at the time. He asked me like, well do
you have You must have had this verse rotter already
in your head. And I'm really like nah, I'm just
really like motivated. I'm coming in here im. You know,
I want to do something. I want to prove myself.
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And so this happens about three or four times where
they tell me pull up another song, and you know,
I knock it out fast forward.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I go about my business.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I get a call they tell me a single gonna
drop tomorrow with you Kanye, Push and shun.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now, keep in mind, I've never heard the song before.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I've never heard it. When I did this song, it
didn't sound like this. This person wasn't on a ye going,
so I don't even so I'm like, man, can I
hear the song. So I hear the song and it's Mercy,
you know, And that's when I started realizing, like the
Magic Home possessed, because the song sounded nothing like that
when I did my verse too, you know, and would
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go on and Mercy becomes, you know, whatever it becomes.
But yeah, that's like the beginning introduction of you know,
our relationship is mercy, your best version, what you think,
your best verse is what you on, who you on.
I actually think some of my best verses on my
latest project, really, which is cool to see because that's
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cool to know that I hadn't like peaked out, you
know what I'm saying, I burnt that. I think the
project that I just dropped with Alchemists and Larry had
some of my best some of my best verses on it,
but I have some scattered around. My friend just sent
me a text message with the verse I did on
the school Boy Q record. He said it was like
seven eight years ago, which is the homie and I
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think the storng I got with Gang I Love Boom
was hard.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Verse you called the Little Stirtle online where you say
you had the hardest.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Verse on Mercy. I did, though.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I did which camera should I look at I had
the hardest verse on Mercy. I had the hardest verse
on Mercy. I had the hardest version. I'm not trying
to be fun.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I did though. I did. Though I did. Though. Big
Jan called you and say, you had the hardest one
on Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Big Sean know that too. Though Big Sean ain't nothing
to play with it. First of all, Sean on once,
you know, but you know when it came at that
right there, man, I just took pride in it. You know,
is everybody from somewhere else, Sean from here, push from here,
yave me.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'm from the South of London, you know what I mean.
So it was just like that kind of life. It
was a nice mixture. Though it worked out real well.
It seemed like everybody been getting into it with Kanye.
Big Sean say, man, that man don't be money.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because he Kanye said that Jay making money off his catalog.
Big Sean said, well, you inate you know you got mine,
So what's the you don't have those problems?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, neither do I speak on anybody else's. I like that.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I like that how you get them somewhere? Ariana Grande inspire.
I inspired her to do something through that inspiration. She
reciprocated it by doing.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
A hook for me.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
So she had like when I did the pretty Girls
like trap music thing where everything was pink, and you know,
just I had the pink Trap House in Atlanta, which
inspired the Trap Museum the Ti has So I had
a museum that was pink. But like Tip told me
out in own mind, so he ended up. So that
was a lesson I kind of learned. But that was
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that inspiration. But it just some of the ideas that
I put out into the world inspire other things. And
so with the Ariana Grunde, it inspired her to do
her stage basically just like my all pink car all,
you know what I mean. And so I knew somebody
or it was somebody that knew both of us. It
was a mutual person that put us together because it
was just different, you know, if you get caught up
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into that social media step, you know, which I did,
and we communicated, we figured out a way to make it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Work for both of us, and it did. Who's someone
you haven't worked with that you'd like to work with.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I used to want to work with whole because I know,
you know, he does it when he wants to right,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, he ain't really that.
He got to be in that space.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
He got to be there.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
He got to be there, and I understand and respect that.
So I think I might have might have missed my opportunity. Yeah,
I'm you know, it might have just was a but
it's just a you know, you just respect him as
what he's done and everything. And then when I look
at you know, and think of all the people and
just listen to all the people you name, it's not
many people left that I hadn't done anything with brother
(22:13):
old or new. I just shot a video Ron Osley,
I had Ron Eisley, Man, I my mom Auntie. I
had Ron and Ernie on the block, Ernie playing a
guitar on more than more than that in front of
the corner store. So it's like, man, I'm just so
you know, blessed. But in that in that, in that,
in that vein, I guess the only person would be
(22:34):
left would be him. I've done something with like, I mean,
everyone else, but everyone else, man, all the all my favorites,
all the you know, I mean, I love Drake and Kearricter,
I love Scarface, I love you know, Eminem is such
a lyrical giant doing something with him, you know, all
all the and then you just talk about people that
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just like this is what they want to do, rap
at a high level. And then you go to talking
about like just people who got something to do with
the culture, like you know, the Migos, Rest in Peace,
Takeoff and just being a part of like, you know,
just different generations of Atlanta. You know, Atlanta is someone
that's been just doing their thing for so long. Andre
three thousand, that's what you want.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
That's it, and that's it. And he doesn't really rap anymore. No,
he like he done.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
He don't really rap anymore. Because I heard him an interview.
That's who I actually just super love bro.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I love I heard on the interview he said at
his age, You're like, what are you rapping about?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, he'll make it sound cool though, Yeah, he'll make
it'll make it. He'll make It'll make somebody that don't
want to get no cold knots. He probably makes somebody.
You go get one because he's just man, He's just
a real cool Atlanta player.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I love, I love him and big Boy. Actually you
want a Grammy with chance to rap Her for no Problems?
What was that moment?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Like, man, it was one of the moments where I'm
gonna explain this, explain this in a way that you
can understand. So I was very happy to get the Grammy,
very very very excited. So when I my first platinum
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plak I got was no Lie right, and I was happy,
but it had Drake on her. And then the second
plaque I got, it was Birthday Song, and I was
happy because it was my song, but it had Yay
on it. My third platinum plaque was something different and.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
There was nobody on it. It was just me, my hood,
my verse. DJ Mussele did the beat.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
And when that went platinum, I got chill bumps because
I realized that a million people had bought my my
just my idea, you know. And so with the Grammy,
when I look in the mirror, I'm thankful for the GRAMM,
but I know, like you know, even though Chance didn't
know Wayne, I put Wayne on the song like that
was my God. He didn't know I might want it.
(25:03):
Did all that Chance came to my studio shot the video.
I was really helpful for it and thankful for it,
but it's Chance hung a right.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's a chance you want to grab me on your own. Man,
he's so smart, he's so intelligent. It's crazy.
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y'all won that Grammy over Fat Joe's All the Way Up.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Really, Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, Yeah, that was it.
That was I probably was so surprised because that song
on this All the Way.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah fat Joy when he put out one, he lets
you Yeah, it's one of them.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The story about Dre, like when you went and Dre
and you was trying to rap and he's like, Bro,
I can't I can't understand your dialect. Bro, what's Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I told you know, dra is a perfectionist and that's
why I guess you want to be around him, you know,
but he is a you know what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
It's like Dre.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
It's like rap is at a point now where you
it's like Ai but not AI. But it's quicker and faster.
And sometimes if if the end of a word is
not a nun said, it's still taking.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's like dope because it's a vibe. It's the energy.
Dra ain't going for that. He want to hit the
t you want to hit the dot on the ie.
I said, Man, I got an overbite, bro, I can't
some of this stuff just ain't gonna come through. Okay, Yeah,
and he he I think I'm finna just get a
couple of lives. He stopped me. No, no, no, go
back and and say that one again.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
But man, I really enjoyed being around Dre because of
obviously who he is is to the coach and who
he is yeah and man and the people around and
just he record every day whether he gonna put somebody,
and he worked hard. You know, he in the studio
going hard every day. I'm going to he playing full
songs that he with, a whole man, all type of instrumentation,
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a whole skit involved. I'm like, he like, I did
this three songs today. So it's it's cool to know
that he's still, you know, musically motivated.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
What's it like going to the studio with a Dre Because,
like you said, I mean, when it comes to this
hip hop, it ain't ain't any bigger than him.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I mean, you can he go back to the nw
A and then he brought it four.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Well, Dre, we got cool, We got cool quick.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
He showed me around the house. I'm into interior design.
So his house so figh, you know what I'm saying,
Home got fingerprint. I guess why I got my finger
print from man? I get something mayor you know what
I mean. He got the fingerprint, but he got the
real likes and you know, yeah, you really cut it off.
And and and you ain't gonna be got that. He
ain't that you did. So but he got all this stuff,
(29:03):
and you know, then he got a gym kind of
the same bond, you know what I mean. And then
you know, I smoke, you know often, And so his
place had never been his studio. He was even saying,
like at the time, I don't even know snoop had
even been over there, but no one had smoked over there.
But he said, you know what changed, I'm gonna let
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you smoke man, and smoked.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
We just I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I should appreciate it because when I did work with Eminem,
I couldn't smoke in there. They put my when it
was time to work with Eminem. It was actually kind
of kind of funny. When it's time to work with Eminem,
they put and this is his people, It's not Eminem.
Eminem is somewhere right and he's not even standards, but
his people are just so concerned with him. They put
the speakers outside so I can listen to the beat.
So I'm outside, It's a beautiful day of Malibu. I'm
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just smoking the speakers outside. So then I come back
in and do my my verse and the doors closed,
and I'm and I'm I'm in the boot smoking and
I see M. I actually see him out out there,
so I'm liken he and here why I recording this hard?
And so he's about to like come in and say something,
and like some of these people like you know.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
No, you know, don't go in there.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
He's smoking, and M looks like the shit the down,
like y'all like what they I guess he was thinking
like what do you think I'm about to do? Like
you know, I guess he thinking like what you I
don't even know if that they'll let you know the time. No,
that's a DVD player. Yeah, that's a DVD player for
the DVD in to watch a movie. But I remember
them kind of like tripping on him being around and
(30:35):
he was not tripping at all. But other than that,
that's that's basically like all I need for a studio
a couple of joints.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know what I'm saying, I'm self motivated. I don't
need you need. I'm not gonna say he was instrumental
with Drake? What did I mean?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Cause Drake has helped a lot of people, and we
know what Drake you represent and you cool with Drake.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So how was that? How was that? How did that
relationship start?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Then?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
And then you working with him through Wayne? You know,
he was with cash money.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
So when I had when we had the song Dumble
Bad Boys, Wayne was on tour, it was called IM
Music Tour. When he went on tour, the first night
he went on tour, he did he wrapped my Verse
to Double Bad Boys on stage, like somebody had told
me in Florida. So I'm calling him like bro, and
(31:26):
he was like, man, you need to come out here
because I can't just stop after the hook. People know
your verse type stuff, you know what I'm saying. So
that was like an indirect invitation. And when I went
on tour with him, I met Draking a few other people,
you know what I'm saying, and NICKI and all of
those people. So that was maybe like oh eight oh
nine met him, and you know, we all did a
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tour together, so that's how those stuff come back.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You but you the song you like and I heard
you talk about it, you like, I ain't got nothing
to do it. Man, the man put my name in
the song. I thought it was cool, But I ain't
got nothing with that dish and stuff, because I guess
Drake means a lot to the culture. I mean, savagees
work with him, You've worked with him. I'm trying to
think who else has worked with Drake that I know
if off the top of my head, but it's been
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about five that Atlanta rappers. I mean, Drake is huge
with Atlanta culture.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
God love it.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's not even that. It's
just like when people ask me how I felt about
my name, It's like.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, I did you what?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
What what do you want me to I don't even
have an answer. I don't have zero feeling about it.
I have zero emotion on it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I have zero because this is.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
What happens, right, this is, this is, this is exactly
what happened. If he say your name, you you you you,
you feel a certain way. If he don't say your name,
you're gonna feel a certain right. You know how many
people from Atlanta he could have said, okay, and and
and this vice versa. So while I'm gonn get into
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a thing of man I'm glad or man I wish
he wondered, like it really, really, I really have zero,
zero zero emotion about my name, I said, if you
really want to know, people have probably said two chains
in their rap.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't know. I guess it just rhymes with a
couple of different things, you know, a few a few times.
I hear it a lot, you know what I mean?
So it don't it don't bother me, man, I ain't
getting caught up in how about this where you gonna
go writing? I've never had it? Had it goes right?
Are you out on it? You just never have it?
Or you don't feel that, okay if you are.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Because I hear a lot of people say if you're
a true mc LLL say here a true mc. This
one says they're true EMCs, true mcs right their own verses.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
So I've thought about this a couple of times because
when I think about Michael Jackson and Beyonce, who've all
had writers right and hit hits off these writers, and
then here I am my stuff every night. Who's doing
it the right way?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't know. I don't have an answer for that,
so I can't as bad as I want to be.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Like man, my confidence lies with me knowing that no
one helped me articulate this idea or get this metaphor.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Hour like I came up with these words.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
But at the same time, my pride hadn't let me
accept the song from somebody and read I won't even
do if somebody has a hook and they say I
would like for you to read if I didn't come
up with the hook, I don't even say it.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Wow. Yeah, somebody said, man, I won't you say damn, damn,
I ain't. I'm sorry, brother, Like I'm sorry, it ain't me.
You know, it's got to be you.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah, because somebody like they'll think they'll hear me saying
something like this, but I'm just I'm gonna do it.
So yeah, everything has very much been me. But like
I say, I don't know if that's the right or
the wrong way, because I mean, I'm here that's just
not your way.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, But this is just how I been operate, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
But when I really sit back and think so many
people has had writers help them get over some other place,
you know. And but I can honestly look in the mirror,
and that's one of the things. I could look at
the mirror and kind of be a priest above too, Like, man,
every everything that y'all heard in the universe has been
from from from me?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Internal line. Would you ghost write for an artist? I would, Yeah,
I have before? Who have you? Yeah? Sampling. I love sampling,
I do. I love, I love, I love, but I
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love to create.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I love to create a part of taking I love
piece of something and modernizing it, upgrading it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Like I love.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I love sample, especially like feel good sample soul for
sample stuff like I don't know, you might've heard as
a kid or whatever, and they've been able to chop
that up and then add some to it. I like samples.
Original originality is dope too. If you can make a
beat from scratch, I rock with that. But I like samples.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
If somebody were to sample one of yours, do they
do they do?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
They need to play you the song or you like, hey,
they call you off, they change I want to sample there,
and you're like, okay, it's gonna cast you x Y
and z or do you need to hear the song
before you like.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm always hit the song. I'm always hit a song.
You don't want nobody puting no boobo on your track.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
But even if they put booboo, I don't want to.
I want to hear a song. I want to be
affiliated with nothing. You know, crazy, right, But if the
song is booboo, I still make clear because I know
what it's like for my song not to be clear.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I know what that feeling like.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
So I figure out a way for it to make
sense for me a long as it's not a huge
interpolation of what I did. If it's something small, whatever,
I ain't really tripping on that because it's just a
way to you know, kind of you know, kind of
keep keep.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
My algorithm going back. Doylar Creative recently showed you some love.
Are people slipping on your peeing change? Yeah? But that's
cool though. I mean Tyler's though too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I just took to my daughters to see his concert
and he gave mission shout out while he was on stage,
and that was that was cool?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
You know today is it's dope for people who have
that kind of impact right till.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You know throw some shine on something as opposed to shade, right,
And so when he did that, I looked at this
as he was, you know, throwing some shine on something.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Welcome home, Shake Man, Welcome home Claire.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I switched whips in the am, picked up the bagel
with the cream cheese. When I played, I didn't get
an opportunity to really enjoy it because I was so
caught up in the journey. I wasn't really concerned with
the destination. And then once I ride to the destination,
which was when I completed my career, now I get.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Back like man, I did that. I had a great
blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Do you have an opportunity do you sit back and
just think about what you have accomplished in your young career?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
No, I think that's one of the that's something that
I think I started feeling a little late in my career.
I didn't become really successful till I was in my thirties.
And then I think by taking me so long to
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become successful, I didn't want to celebate break too much.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I didn't want to go on vacation. I didn't want to,
you know, take the time to.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Like reflect, look back or even judge why I was
currently and so now as I started to get older
and understand, you know, how life works and how the
universe works, I really wish I would have spent more
time in that in those places like and not just
like figuratively speak, and I'm talking about internalizing what I
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was doing at the time, you know. But I'm still
here and confident that I can make some more waves
and experiences along my journey.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
We're here in candy Land for your forty sixth birthday.
You bought yourself a strip club. Of all the birthday
for others, you could have gifted yourself, why an adult entertainments?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I mean, why not?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You know, this was a once in a lifetime opportunity.
How this whole thing came about, it was just God involved,
you know what I'm saying. Anybody from Atlanta would be
interested in having something to do with a strip club
because it's a major fixture in the city.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
But you're not able to open up any strip clubs
unless you have a dance and permit, which they stopped
even your issue on them in ninety three. Wow, So
you would have to actually buy one from someone who
has one, or get grandfather then, and so.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I was able.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
My partner was already in the midst and in a
situation to where he was starting that process, and God
just put me in the picture at the right time,
at the right place, at the right time, like me
and you discuss them, and so that's what happened. I
ended up being at the right place at the right time.
I didn't put all my eggs in the basket. I
put a lot of them in the basket for this one.
(40:27):
And I just feel like it's one of those things.
Is it's going to be around. You know, we have food,
it's entertainment, and you know I tell the dancers that
that you are entertainers, you know what I'm saying. So
you have a fan base as well. You know, it's
always cool to try to you know what I'm saying,
spread some game. Yeah, here we go, we.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Show people the food. You man so greedy. Look at this.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Like these seemed like like hot, like hot, These seem
like lemon pepper, these seem like barb I don't know
what else. A little look like the mesquite yeah stuff,
yeah yeah, but I'm oh, we got fries over here.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You know, I love them. Sure you'll y'all see this.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
And since Shane is doing such a great job and
promoting my product, let's not forget my brother got his
own yack, he just won award. He told me about gold,
got gold medal or something. So you know, I don't
even let me tell you something. Don't even worry about
what I don't do. I'm finna go here with it.
I'm gonna go ahead with it. I'ma go ahead with it.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Let me try. What do you do? You don't drink,
you swirl around, you swirl around. Then what we'll call it?
Nosing it? Nosing it? Yes, now that I've done that
with red wine before, well does this let it breathe
more so? Yeah, this stuff in barrels. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
In order for it to be a Kangynak, it has
to originate in the region for at least two years.
So it has to grow up in the Cognac region.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Great.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
This is an Uni blanc mixture with a petite champagne.
Each region in Kanyac had a particular type of grape.
And according to how you want your contract Kanyac to
taste you that kind of great, And so this is
a Uni blanc grape, a very proper. Probably I think
maybe seventy percent of the grace that's in that region
is a uni bloc great with a petite champagne. This
(42:24):
is a bsop, very special, old pale bsop has to
be aged between four and six years. Wow, and then
as you're gone up and you know, so forth and song.
So we think we've done a great job. Lapotier is
my grandmother's porter in French. Shae my name and so
shaved by Lapotier.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
So how long have you had this kanyac? We came out,
We tried to come out in two thousands.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Then the pandemic happened. And it's funny is that this
bottle wasn't the original bottle. We had a bottle using
a company Italy, and they go back during the pandemic,
so we had to scratch that. Now we weren't able
to come out in twenty twenty, so now we had
to push it back to twenty twenty one. So now
they're sending me products all through the mail. I'm sampling,
(43:12):
I'm tasting. I'm like, okay, I like this, and my
partners and I like, what are we going for? We
want something to taste. Good people are gonna buy it.
It's like, yeah, that's the end goal. But we want
to produce an award winning kanyak. And now we won
fourteen awards. We won the Simple Award, which is the
highest award you can win because it's a blind taste test,
and again we want another taste test today.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
The only kanyak that won.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
So without even starting to process, your partner in this
knew that the end goal was award.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yes, I guess he said, everything else will fall, everything else,
everything else.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
If you can get award, everybody. Yeah, yes.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
And it's a vsop that drinks like an XO X
it's extra old XXO.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
It's extra extra old.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And then you start getting into the specialty Kanye actually
stuff that's barrowed twenty five, you know, fifty years as
a matter of fact, that we went over there this
past June and June the twenty four and a guy
had kgnact that was in a barrel that was pre
Civil war.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
He let us taste it.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, they keep I mean, because everything is it has
to go through the process. It has to be because
our cognact is very unique. We don't add color, we
don't ask sugar. It's this how is how it comes
out of barrel. This is how it comes out of barrow.
We're a small batch. We can control it. You see
your mom cooking for ten people, it's gonna taste different
than she's cooking for a thousand people. So when you
(44:38):
try to cook something, so now we can control the taste.
That's why you get the consistency. And that's when you
become great at something where you're consistent at it. Yeah,
so congratulations on everything you've You've been very consistent.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Thank you, brother, appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
That's a good Kannyac there. I promise you nobody's gonna
beat us on the market. We don't talk about anybody else.
We just tell you what we do, and what we
do we do very well.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah. Yeah, you know we gotta get it in candy.
We gotta get it in your step.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah easy. See that's easy. You when you own something,
it's like it's easy. I can really make that happen
right now. If you had a case something, Oh, we
get that. So this is Kanyak. This is Kanyac.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
See it has to originate because see, you like wines
can start anywhere. You can have wine from California you
can have an organ. They can be all over the place,
but they call it the Kanyak. It has to originate
the first two years in that region in Kanyac. It
has to brew, go through the copper pot. It has
to be stored in the wooden barrels. Yes, the vsop.
In order for you to call it a vsop, it
(45:51):
got to be four to six year four to six
years of age, just setting up in a barrel, sitting
there marinateing.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Does that make get stronger?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Well, it's the process in which it goes through. Because
you know, you have the grape, you have a certain amount,
and it's a blend because as you like, we got
another one coming out that's a that's a premium, that's
a step above this.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
And as you.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Start to blend, it gets more and more expensive because
you're blending older and older cognacs to try to get
the space the blend that you particularly want. So you
might be blending something that was, you know, say ten
years old, with something that's fifteen years old. There's something
that's twenty years old, and you're trying to do x amount.
But like, because we're a small batch, we do really
(46:35):
really well. We've done really well. People have been very
receptive when they taste it, they know there's a lot
of love, there's a lot of care, there's a lot
of support that's going in.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
You can hear that when you describe it. Honestly, I'm
not still a big Kanye drinking. But it was smooth.
It was smooth, and you know, the trend is whatever
it is right now? More shot. I was supposed to
sip it or take a shot of it, just a
little sip of it. Yeah. Now, if I was to
add a drop of water, it'll open up the body.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
You're supposed to actually d drop a drop of water,
not an ice cue, because the ice cue, you can't
control the milk. Because of the ice cue, melt is
more than what you intended to get in there. So
what a drop You get to control how much water
actually goes in and it opens up the body.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
What about a juice would do?
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Oh? Yeah, well do it? Here's the thing. Would you
drink juice with your Kanye? No?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I Now, and over there they drink ginger ale. They
mix it with ginger ale. That was the big thing
over there that I didn't know Kanyak and ginger Al. Yes,
but it makes a great sidecar. We have drinks like determination, discipline, determined,
dedication or things that a factor that are that are
really important to me and how I kind of got
to where I got. We have drinks. We have a
(47:51):
mixed sologist in the house, mixedologists, and his job is
to come up with drink with specialty drinks, not just
to Kanye. Now you can drink it by itself because
a lot of times people they do mixed drink, they
try to hide it cause you ain't your your your thing.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Ain't that good? Okay? We really good?
Speaker 4 (48:05):
We staying behind it. Yeah, we would prefer like a shift.
Don't add no season to my dish.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
When I send that stea guy there, I don't send
ketch up with me. They don't like that because I
already know what it is. Yeah, they don't like that.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
And the real shit, we know, we know what this is,
so we st we staying behind that. So let me
ask you.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
That's what I want to know. You go home, You're like, oh, man,
my forty sixth birthday. Man, I think I'm gona have me.
I think I'm having me on an adult entertainment, How
you explain that to them, to mama. My mama was saying,
how't talk about your mama. I'm talking about your girl.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, we we like minded. That's why we're together. Okay, okay,
see about that. You go to see it on that paper. Chill.
We got them in here. We come here together, really, absolutely,
we come here together. It's just sometime I parted your
hard and it'd be hard for her to recover a
couple of day. But we come out we hanging together.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
This ain't no secret, Like I wouldn't even try to
play like that, right, Yeah, so we come up, we
had all together, have a few dreams whatever, you know,
whatever we do is we shut the same like similarities.
And I think that's what that's what worked in most relationships,
is that's what you were you tour, So how did
you know she was the one? Eh man, it's just
beautiful man, beautiful inside and out. And and I remember
(49:19):
she used to go to church and take notes and stuff.
Really I thought that was so interesting and so cool.
And then maybe look at him here and there so
just a guard hearing woman who was just super angelic
like personality.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
And you know, we laugh every day. We got some
beautiful kids. Out this deal and just just kept moving.
I knew you know what you wo'd you guys meet.
We've been knowing each other twenty We've been know each other.
Who made the first move I did?
Speaker 1 (49:55):
This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
is also posted, and you can access to whichever podcast
platform you just listen to Part one on. Just simply
go back to club profile and I'll see you there.
Host
Shannon Sharpe
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