Club Shay Shay - Ali Siddiq Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for you're coming back. Part two is underway.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
You would prefer to be peaceful with anybody, and if
you really beef, and why don't y'all just selling in
the ring. That's my that's my thing right now, man,
I don't fight for free. Put your bag up. Let's
get in that ring. Put that bag up, and whoever
get the bag, get the bag. But we both can
go home right. Well you may be, you may be

(00:24):
a little light on some bread, but you can go
home right. And I ain't gotta I ain't gonna talk
about it you want. I ain't fin that barrish. I
already did that when I took your bread in the ring,
right like with these young boys, hey man, getting that ring,
put some bread up, getting that ring.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Fighting for free is crazy. You had some loss early on? Yes,
you lost the sister. Yes, how did that? What did
that do to you?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Mentally? Yeah? I wasn't. I wasn't ready and I wasn't
I would and younger than you, yeah, my baby sister. Yeah,
I wasn't prepared at all.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Have you been able to make peace with it?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Mm hmm, I understand it, but damn the pain of it?
How does how did she pass and she had me
Ninja Cockers is what they called it. The pain of it.

(01:39):
Rother was very difficult. Like it's still Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Can we get some tissue?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
We good, be good.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I don't wish it. Eight how much older than you
than she is?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Ten? Ten years love of my life. Love of my life,
like I have a I have a tattoo on my
my body twice I'm talking about. I didn't. I don't

(02:22):
think I loved anybody like that until my children. Okay,
this is the love I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
The at ten, she's eight, Lee, you really can't process death.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
No, I'm ten years older than her.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Old so you are you fully aware of going on
eighteen eighteen?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, and you talking about this is the joy of
my life like it was to be a big brother. Wow. Man.

(03:08):
I would stopped whatever I was doing to go pick
up from school, walk her home and talk to her,
just being there, just be loving on her. My older
sister was she was offer the navy man. Still to

(03:34):
this day. You know, I love on my kids so
hard because that lost, that lost, and it's it's just what.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You suffered lost again your firstborn son, right, yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And That was some cold. That was some cold chatting.
That was some cold. And I found out that he
was he was dead, he was already buried and everything right.
That was some cold hearted man.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Watch, hold on, hold on time out. You're first born. Yeah, man,
he passes.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
You don't find out that he's passed until he's already buried.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Do you want me to tell you how I found out?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes? Please.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
This girl's on the phone with my boy g and
she said something. I said, man, why are you even
talking to that bro? He said, nigga, what I don't
even like you? That's why your baby dead?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
What?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Bro? I said? What you was to say? So I called?
I said, Yo, with my son quiet, buried every.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Day, why did she say ever?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Tell you why she didn't tell you that your child
had passed, and that he had passed.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
There was gonna be a funeral, there's gonna be a burial.
Why didn't she share that information with you?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
My home girt Jeri talked to me maybe about five
years ago. My son didn't even have to die. If
she would have called me, I could have I could
have paid the bread for what he needed. But you're

(05:49):
trying to be on some pride and no want to
call me and let me know what's going on. What So,
I've suffered some some some damaging losses that have shaped

(06:12):
me to be a little cold hearted and actually soft
hearted at the same time. I love my children deally,

(06:33):
but I can't let nobody play with me because I understand.
I understand how lost feel. Like, Hey, man, don't bro
gone man like? Bro really gone? Bro Like I'm not

(06:54):
really what you think I am? Man gone bro just gone.
So when people say things towards the dead, that bothers you?
Huh yeah, yeah that that it bothers me, even if
you're not a person that I care for, Like that,

(07:14):
if somebody passed and somebody talk down.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
To dead, make a joke out of situation, and.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
That ain't cool.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You like your circle of friends. I've seen a couple
of your guys here with you. What have you learned
about your circle of friends?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
What is it like?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
How do you determine who's in your circle? How do
you determine who's your friend? How do you determine who
you trust?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Their character? I look at their character, I look how
they are with their family, all them boys over their family, man,
all of them I'm somebody you talk about some some
brothers who love their family love, they kids love, they
grandma love, They aunts love, they uncles love they kids. Man,

(08:07):
it's so you got Dre over there, right? I trust
him like I trust him, trust him with my kids.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I think that's the greatest honor you can have on
a friend when you can trust him with your kids.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
By hey, can you pick my kids up? Can you
come watch with my kids? I need to go out
of town? Can you watch my kids?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
If you are friends with somebody and y'all kids are
not friends, something is wrong with this whole situation. If
I don't know your I don't hang with no men
that don't take care of his kids. You crazy. You
don't take care of your kids. You can't be no

(08:56):
friend of mine. How so we ain't got the same
We ain't got the same agenda. Right, I got somewhere,
I got somewhere to go. I gotta go get in
a in a line, I gotta get I gotta get
that line and pick somebody up. Right, you could trust

(09:20):
man Marcau's daughter Charlie. Man, she come to the house
play with my girls. Man ain't nothing. He know for facts,
man ain't gona let nothing happen to Charlie Drea Half Hassan,
I know for facts, he ain't gonna let nothing happen.
I trust him with me, So why would I trust
him with Hassan? Right? Rashad Man his boys man dlay

(09:48):
he man man he we had a basketball game, his son. Man,
we weren't on this basketball court. The man hit one shot.
We were on the basketball court. Games game is three
minutes in. Were on the court celebrating the record. We're like, hey, man,
what y'all doing?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Come get this.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's it's it's these man. I'm I'm around I'm around men. Yeah,
I don't have no boys in my circle.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, it's it's tough to acquire friends once you reach
this level. Because I look at my friends like I
judge my friends. I only really got two. I'm talking
about friends. I'm talking about ride that we brothers. The
only thing we don't got the same blood. If the
roles were reversed, they're in my position and I'm in theirs,
they would treat me like I treat them.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
That's how I have to look at you.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Ain't no jealousy amongst us.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
No nothing.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
If you talk about somebody, if I get something or
they get something, it's let me tell you something. I
have a I have a nice car, we have a
nice call. Ain't gonna talk about it like, let me

(11:11):
tell you something. When Mark is a boy, this man
borkin the truck it might as well be because I'm
gonna be talking about it like it's my first of all,
you don't nobody will know that to get the truckle.
But because it's the thing is, you can see it
all day. But my patterner got it. I know somebody
who has it. It's different. I don't care about that

(11:32):
man over there having their mother. I ain't got I
ain't got no time.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I don't know him.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I don't know him.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I know I know my homeboy, because that's that, And
that's what you're like, Like my homeboy, bucket be seeing
me sending me articles. I say, are you a librarian?
How you keep on clipping and sending me?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You got a job? How you find all these articles?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
He's investing in what you got going on?

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Hold, boy, you see this hord boy, you see.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
That he keeping you up on it.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'm like, I didn't even know they did an article on.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Me, he keeping you up as he should.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You've read I read when you say you don't like
working with money hunger, people.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Can't do it. Why you're not loyal?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
You lord to the dollar, You lord to the dollar.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
You a high gun. I can't mess with nobody who
who money home, because you will sell me out for something.
It'll sell me out for anything, some bread, just like
I listen, I listen to. Unfortunately a lot of these
cats that got bread. Now you selling out the community
for the bread. Whoever want to sponsor you? You going

(12:34):
with it, no matter how detrimentally is to the community.
You going with it for the bread. No integrity about
what you're doing. I can't mess with folks who don't
have integrity about what they're doing. Man, you know how
hard it is to be an independent artist.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, My friends got to keep me from from saying
a lot of things. And then they'll give me the
the My boy came in to her. We say, man,
they'll never give you a reward. They'll never give you anything.
They'll never give you the Grammy, they'll never give you
the Emmy. They never give you any of these things,

(13:16):
Like why you keep saying that because they didn't make
you mhm, you were an independent artist. One of the
one of the worst, one of the worst things people
say to me is when you're gonna get a Netflix special?
Oh I saw you on Netflix. No you did not, No,
you did not. Netflix had fined every excuse not to

(13:38):
deal with me. They last one was because I put
out my own stuff on a on a regular basis.
We want our artists to be Hey, man, just say
you don't with me, and that's cool. If you don't rye,
don't give me no man. I'm a man. I'm a man.
Say what it is so I ain't got to deal

(13:59):
with you no more. And how you be? How you
get voted the number one special and don't win the
Grammy Wow?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
How that worked?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
How you get nominated? How you get on the Emmy list.
I've been on the em list three times. They find
every way to give somebody else that goddamn Emmy but me.
You know what was? What was the Emmy so cold
that they that they nominated the Oscars and the Tonies
for Emmy Award last year? The Oscars in the tone
they need a fucking Emmy Wow, just to just to

(14:31):
not acknowledge Domino effect three. But while with you so
an independent artist? When's an Emmy? When's a Grammy? Now
you turned the cycle of everybody else going independent. They

(14:52):
don't need the industry no more. I'm not in bed
with nobody. I'm not in bed with nobody. I don't know.
I don't have to answer to no body. I can
put out thirty specials today if I want to. Can't
nobody tell me what to do. I'm my own man,

(15:14):
and they and they, and they actually fault you for
being your own goddamn man. They stand against you for
being your own man, and society allow them to because
you won't bring you won't bring me up in the
conversation I had. I had a lot of respect for
Little Real when he was on this show and he
asked about the comics. You didn't know who I was.

(15:37):
I did not, and I and I and I and
I knew you didn't. When because after everybody else you've
made a comment, he said my name, you kept going.
I said, he don't know me, and no disrespects to it.
I was like, you don't know me. And then my man,
come on up, Godfrey mention me again. And then maybe

(15:58):
maybe I need to look into it. But guess what,
it's millions of people. Why would you know me if
you're not watching myself? Right, I'm not offended that you
don't know me. Now I gotta get you to know me.
It's just something else to work for. But when you
don't acknowledge me, and you already know me, right, but

(16:21):
then you try to give somebody else all this glory
and you man, come on, man, stop acting like you
don't know who I am.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Stop acting just stop pretending. Bro, that's what is How
did you? How did you? How did you go from
selling drugs?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Because you got you say you got jammed up at
nineteen four days after your nineteenth birthday?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Is that when you got caught by the Fed? Okay,
they're sending you away for six years.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
So now that's how I stopped selling drugs. The judge
stopped The judge stopped me. Man's like, hey, no more.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
How do you go from being a street pharmacist getting
called I don't know you're making good money?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You weren't gonna stop her if the judge had to
stop you when you go shon.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Let me tell you something. God knew what he was doing.
The creator knew what he was doing. He he man,
I gotta stop this boy, cause this boy is Shannon.
When people talk about getting money, you get money, man
when you show up, when you show up to high
school and a drop top blue jag I had, I
bought a I bought a BMWN Frank Lucas.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
You're trying to break all that to tell you.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
What, Hey, hey, brother, this is this is the eighties.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You need to have your dad, need to be a
doctor or lawyer to justify it.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Man, this is the eighties. Folks was shining in the eighties.
We was we was glousing. Texas was glousing in the eighties.
No high schooler, what you think it was just me?
So you think you think it was just me? So
you think you think.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well, nobody else. No MOORI your day weekend and it's
fopping in Galveston. It's all. It's all type of cars
out there and with young boys in it. We no
ten at this time, No tent ain't no ten.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
You wanted to be seen?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, I'm flash shit, I'm already I'm in I'm in
high school. I got to come to high school with
the bread I'm buying shrimp baskets for everybody. You gotta
get this shrimp basket. What I'm saying that this is
when you got that money. But the thing, yeah, man,

(18:31):
we I got. I got eighty four grand at my
girlfriend house at WANs and fives in a trash bag.
I've been I had already been getting money. Oh no,
let me tell you something, JA, I'm fresh fresh, I'm
talking abouty I'm I'm talking money. I get out, I

(18:51):
get out in these streets. I got fifteen grand on me.
That's what I'm That's what I'm out in the streets
with today.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So you walking around, So let me so back at
the day if somebody casts a deep walking the street
and he had to have fifteen grand on the call
the cop. Somebody just robbed around the corner, call the cops.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Man, Me and herb is in this mall floss and
I got thirty thousand in my in my trunk in
the in a in this box that people don't know
that it's in there. I got a fresh fifteen that
I unwrapped every days. I'm I I spend seven. I
throw that's seven in the draw and to get another
fresh fifteen. Yeah, I got money. Out of here, Shannon,

(19:34):
damn Chompo.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah yeah, little El Choppo getting you Chopo for l
chop Choppo wasn't even riding there, he wasn't running the thing.
And then it be this Pablo Escoball damn yeah man
man man, yeah, grand like that. You can't start.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I wish that in Houston, we wasn't getting that money.
I wish we wasn't, but we were. I'm talking about
all man. Man, it wasn't just me. I'm the young
I'm the young woman that tod them pole. I'm the
young boy. Man. It's our type of bread right now.

(20:12):
We just getting this and I and I and I,
like I said, I don't glorify that. How you brought
me into that. You see, I was sald off man.
You brought me into that.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I was chilling.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I wasn't even talking about drugs. Okay, we're telling about
the side chick. They're putting that money on the books.
You put twelve man, it is my money, give to
put that money.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
On now a gangster man out of horned claw. Yeah, Kip,
the solid boy, you.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Ain't good at it. You had a compensard. You're coming
your book with.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Man I was good. I was good. I ain't want
for nothing down there.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
You eat chimps and.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Bro buying rhino boots everything. I'm down there getting it
when I would fly down Now, what are you ride on?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Boost for?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Man? Cause you in theres no they man, they you
had to you had to buy some sneakers from some fodyup.
They didn't sell sneaks, okay, they them little them little
terrible shoes they sold down there with the rhinos. You
you would keep them boys fresh, you die them. Some
of them were dim, different colors with the eminem with
the color off the eminem. Oh yeah, we're fresh. But

(21:25):
the thing is your money, man, sharing. Let me tell
you something. Money, money go fast in prison? Does it fast? What? Bro?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
What can you buy you? I mean you can only
buy stuff just at the commonsaria. How much stuff they
charge you? Fifteen dollars for a.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Soda man, I mean I mean cann steak, I mean
the soup, I mean stew you know, I mean how much?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
How often do you get to go to the commersary
Once a week? Okay, you go once a week? What
you buying?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
A case of soup envelopes? Two paste nutty butteries, peanut butter, sausage, cheese, soup,
can soup.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
So how much how much you can bust that?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Jack?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Jack may if your room? I said, you know you
can bring that. Man.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Don't do that, Jack back, Man, don't do that. Man.
You gotta make you got it first of all, you
got to clean it right. You know what I'm saying. Man,
Big Brown used to drink the juice or that.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Big Brown used drink.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
The juiceling man, listen maybe, but Jack mac, you're talking
about a filling meal though, because that's man. You gotta
put that soup in there. Put that Jack macan that
you gotta mix that up, cheese chips, you know, man, hopenos.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
So how much? How much is your weekly commensary bill?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Sixty? You can only bust a sixty. You're gonna spend
sixty dollars? You don't have sixty dollars, but you are.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
So three fixtyd one, twenty two, fourty Oh you got
twelve bands with the book that should last you.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Forever. How bro, you got twelve bands.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm in the county first, Okay, I'm in the county first,
spending money in there? Did I go? I've been on
six different units. I'm in there for six years. How
you figure that.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
You run out all that money?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah? Man, did she bring more? Now she was gone.
She just brought my money. Oh it wasn't her money.
She's my money now. The one who had.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
The eighty four eighty five, she didn't bring nothing. She
kept all your breath and single dollar of it.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Where you didn't break off while you was out.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
This, Yes I did. I got gonna take care of
that girl. That's why the money was got our house.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
So she spent.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
She spent your money, man, that girl with the college
on my money where.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
She go to school for you? You hire, you already
paid for the education.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Lady. Man my money. I had nothing, And when I
got out, she thought I was gonna kill him, but
I was. I didn't want no money from my past dealings,
just eighty four thousand.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I didn't want nothing. You ain't want none of it
dirty money. So let me ask you a question. Anybody
that owed you money you didn't go collect.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Nope, sure didn't. I was done with that. Because he's
saying that that's that's gonna put me back in the game,
right man. I was really hell bent on being a
better person.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Wow, what's what's your what was your favorite meal? If
there's such a thing in the in the camp, what's
your favorite meal?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Like in life?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
No, when you was in there, because that is because
you said you wanted to be the chef, so you
got an opportunity to practice on a lot of bull
dye cause you.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Mixing Jack mackerel and Sue and chieve.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
And this wasn't my recipes. The rescibes was there when
I got that. I'm following already the recipe. This is
already gift. Ain't no new ain't no new recipes. You
only half. Now my favorite thing ever to eat. We
take the honey bonds. Take two honey bonds.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I love that truck driver steak.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Honey bond and the nutty butties. Put them in between
each other with peanut butter, and you you will bust
that thing over and you're warm. You're warm it up.
You're rad to wrap it up and warm it up
in your toilet because yeah, the hot because you had
a steamer and you pour all that that hot water

(25:46):
in that toilets wrapped up, but you kept your toilet clean,
kept toilet got to be clean. You're fine, And that
boy get hot and that that that sugar and that
peanut butter and that little chocolate and melt together.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Y'all don't want that?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
You don't want Yeah, you're going now, you're going to
the tournat to do something else afterwards. But man, that
was a good That was a dessert. That was a
good dessert. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm just gonna go ahead eat the nutty butdyes and
the honey buns. I'm good. I don't need them together,
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Why you don't need them up with peanut butter?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
That's too much, are you? Peanup butter and honey buns
and naughtybody?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah? You in prison? What else you got to do?
Shying it?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, but that's too much.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
You gotta get thick in there. I was a big
boy in there. I think one sixty five, oh now
and now one eighty big boy. Yeah, man, we played,
you know, we played football in there, like the season
when I was on tour red.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, yeah, I was agreen.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
We was on the Green Bay Packer my my block. Yeah.
We beat y'all.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, y yeah, they were building four.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
We beat y'all.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
What y'all play tackle?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yes, both will be flagg both be flag. What position
you play in now resaver, But you couldn't catch.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I never said I couldn't care. You said I couldn't care.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
That was neon Dion on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
And if somebody got mad at me when I said that,
if I would have started team who I started with,
I said, Dion Sanders. Jayed Wright is my favorite player,
right player, but Dion Sanders.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Problem, problem, problem.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
You never caught no balls on Dion.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Prison terms, you say you hated those for some of
the prison terms like child.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Child time came, I can't stand it to this day. Boss,
any of that, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
That's what they called the warden boss. They called all
officers boss, all that prison.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
What they said that a lifetime on life bass. He
ain't working, he ain't from New York City, that New
York cities.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
And that was that was really a a real account
of prison. Really they had account time. I don't watch
no show that depig prison and they don't have account time.
I know you're lying, because that's the that's the thing
that happens the most. It happens the most. We get

(28:17):
counted the most because you get paid, they get the
state get paid. So they got to count you to
see how many people there are. That's important. It's like cattle, right,
So when you don't have no count time, I was like,
oh this that's bull And so when people when people
this is how you understand what I was like in prison?
Remember the scene? Okay, I'm ask you first, who you

(28:42):
thought was the most powerful person on life? No?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Huh oh oh you're talking about okay a Warden?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Mm hmm. Remem when Eddie Murphy was getting beat up
somebody said that's enough.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
That's the most powerful person.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's really like that in their hut.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, because people ask how I was. I That's who
I was?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
How you getting that tittle? You just got in?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
It takes you a while to get there. You don't
get there over night, But once you get there, you
understand on how you maneuver people. And it wasn't nobody
gonna bother me. Hey, when you take care of everybody,
why would somebody bother you? When you once again going

(29:53):
back to how I am in my neighborhood, why would
somebody do something to me in Houston? Right? Why would
you do anything to me in the world? But why
would you do something to me in Houston. I'm from
the neighborhood. I'm a part of the neighborhood. I'm a
part of the culture. So to do something to me,

(30:15):
that's crazy. That's killing the culture. Moham And ain't walking
around with no security.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Do you think like when you walk around security, you
bring attention to yourself and people feel like, oh, he thinks.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah. But if you not loved, you gotta be loved,
Shannon man And and to be loved, you gotta show love.
You gotta be compassionate to people.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
The mess your question the term Mexicans got on boots?
What did that mean? What you call them ringos?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
No, man, the rhinos them, not the boots, the still
toe boots, the boots that's issued to you, the state boots.
That's see, Mexicans don't wear those boots on the reck
yard because they're going outside to play handball and the
lift waists and jogging up. They don't wear those boots.
If you see them with those boots on the reck yard,

(31:10):
it's going down. Thisson got on boots. They gonna stab
up some people and it's still in the toy. Yeah, yeah,
they can kicking your sin kicking your head if you
go down, but they want a kicking your shind so
you can go down and then they can stab you up.

(31:31):
And it's it's terrible. It's a bad thing. But see,
prison that's changed a lot from what I understand. They
say they don't do. They don't do all that no more.
You know what I'm saying. Down there, they don't have
cann goods. They I don't know what they got going on.
I've been to some facilities where I'm like, oh, okay,
this is not a deterrent from coming here. I think

(31:55):
prison should be hard. Yeah, so you can understand if
you're going down there a work camp, you're going down
in the Cadillac what they call it. Now, that ain't
gonna stop you from doing what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
It needs to be able to turn.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
It needs to be it needs to it needs to
be horrifying.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yes, But but what about the people that says, man,
but when I get out, don't nobody want to give
up an ex kind of job? So what am I
gonna do? Big self? Go back to the life that
led me?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Man? As they that's nonsense, And didn't nobody want to
give me no job? I didn't give a damn about that.
I wouldn't have got a job. You gotta be you
gotta be determined as you were to do wrong. You
gotta be that determined to do right. Mhm, that determined
because when you are doing wrong, things happen, but you
keep going on with the wrong.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I almost lost my.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Eyes still selling drugs, almost got shot. That's what you
behind two rocks twoad. Yeah, yep, but he was, he was.
He wasn't all the way cracked that he's still the
crack hadn't taken his strength yet. He got like Lawrence

(33:08):
tightoal yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You got you brought a pen knife with a rusty
nailed nailed two bags of coffee. But you got sliced
doing a riot. Did you know you were sliced?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, immediately, like when you when you're out there, it's
once again. That's why I don't understand take it off
your shirt. I would never take off my shirt.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Plait the club at the club, you know ain't back
in the day. You have to take the club. First
of all. You want to see people like you need
yo up. They're like, okay, I've made I've made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Let me tell you something if you take your shirt
off on me we're in the club. I'm like, good,
easier for me to pop all that skin loose because
your muscles is not of the term for me. Because
I'm gonna tell you what. Let me tell you what.
Your muscles can't stop this knife. You got a knife

(34:01):
up at the club. How you get that up at
the club?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Ask it all, little question? Playing man man, I got man,
I keep a knife. I keep man man. Listen to.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Whatever the needs you remember on Friday. You these but
you live to see the.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I got you. But if you got a crew of people,
I got to stab up to a three y'all cause
you playing and you want to give me the fail
when I take the fair when all day? But I'm
trump Man shinning most of the time when I'm somewhere okay,
Like Dre Drake got stabbed, trying to get trying to

(34:47):
help somebody else, not to get stabbed.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Oh, now I can't take that when I ain't a
secret service.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's he playing. Yeah, Drake, get out of my way.
He's stepping away. He gets sliced. Now the person who
I'm trying to stab up get away, because now I
got a tend of my partner. I just stab my
partner on accident. And I'm saying because he had jumped in,
he had jumped in the way, he'd have jumped in
a way. Yeah, but man, I'm I'm I still. I

(35:15):
still keep a knife on me. Maybe I had to
cut some rope or something. I don't know, but what.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Something sometimes?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
What man? What if you Okay? What if I if
I'm somewhere, I run, I'm dropping out street. I said, oh,
that goes share and then I pulled over. It was that. Man,
I'm trying to get my stuff out and I need
to just cut out. I'm right there. If i't got no, no,
I can't help you.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
No is she gonna call somebody? I need this brought
to you?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Got too much money? Put my help?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah? Yeah, but you had to. But let me ask
you a question. Your salemate. Do you have to trust
your salemate?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, but you had a Mexican salemate, right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
That that was that was forced on me now because
I'm not I'm not really who I am yet. Man,
I'm just not getting them now. Once I get I
get in the groove and I understand how things go,
then I can make my more. Hey say, say Captain
Andy Man, I need to need to get moved man,
or is you know need somebody in there black? But

(36:17):
I know you know what I'm saying, Or you have
a I mean I had a white selling man. White
dog was man. White dog was my boy. That was
my partner. You know what I'm saying. Now, White dog.
He wasn't a part of nothing. He from menting no
deaths or somebody. He wasn't a part of no erring nation.
He wasn't part of no gang. But he just white

(36:40):
dude is locked up, short timer going home. Oh man,
he ain't never want no trouble. Man. Me and that
man that drank many a coffee and what they call purttist.
You know what I'm saying, coffee with kool aid and
the peppermint. But we and that man, we man, we
kicked it.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
So let's just say you in there. You got three years.
You're on a different vibe than somebody that that got
fifteen to fifty.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
See I got fifteen. I had fifteen, right, you pulled six.
I'm on. I'm on the vibe of I'm never going
home because I don't know right, I'm on the vibe
I'm in there a main listen, but you.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Also on the vibe. I'm on what you own. Hey,
you're gonna be peaceful. I want to be peaceful.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
You on some bull job. I want some bull job too.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, because this is what you this is what you
got up, This is what you have to be. You
have to let people know.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
What do you have to fight when you go in? No,
you don't have to fight, so people just leave you alone.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I don't think people understand everybody not being everybody ain't
messing with nobody, right, it's too many now some people
coming there, do their time and they gone. Depending on
what unit you own, you don't want to be on
no rock and roll unit, that's what you don't want
to be on. What's that where they fighting all day?
Every like? People starting ship Richie this on one all

(38:00):
the time. You don't want be on that. Beato and
Ferguson and mconnor, you and everybody trying to do their
time with they doing your time hard? Noah, nobody want
to do that. You want to go somewhere what Maine
people can see a future? Right, Hey man, I'm going
I'm going home.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I got something to go home to. I got a mom,
I got a dad, I got a brother, sister, got
a kid.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
People get well, People getting visitation, right, you don't want
to go nowhere where nobody getting no visits?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, ain't nobody getting Ain't nobody looking at no pictures
or nothing?

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Now?

Speaker 1 (38:32):
What's the number one prison etiquette? What's the number one
thing that you need to know when you go in there?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Respect? Respect on every level. Respect. Don't don't let me
let me let me tell you some sham. This will
get you killed. Right here, man, move my glass. I

(39:00):
moved it for what? Though you saw my glasses right there?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
What you moved my glass from? I wanted to sit there?
What the fuck do you move my glass for? Though?

Speaker 1 (39:16):
They don't like that?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Hell now, hell now, hey ma'am, what you looking at?
You can't look at what are you staring at me? For? Now?

(39:38):
I'm just looking at you for what though you ain't
answering the motherfucking question. What the are you staring at
me for? Hey? Man, let me look over at you again.
You're looking at me. I'm gonna get you on a
bull jib though. I'm gonna get up, i'ma go to

(40:00):
my cell. I'm gonna take off my socks. I'm gonna
put that can of stink ass jack Man getting that can.
I'm gonna tie that ball. I'm gonna tie that the not. Yeah,
and when I come down, I'm going to put a
crater inside your head.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
For just looking at you.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Hell yeah, because I asked you what you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And you ain't explained what you was looking at?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You sizing me up? You think you're gonna take something
from me, But what's your what's your deal? Oh? Man? Yeah,
you're finna get paralyzed. Boy, Yeah, you just this is
where you're gonna be. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen to you,
or you're gonna get life slighting out of here. You
must want to go to Galveston Trauma Center. Wow, because

(40:47):
what did you looking at me for?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
He have the mentality they think if you look at him,
you're trying to size them up.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
But I asked you a question and all you had
to do, Like, man, I've been asked that before. This
is me. Hey man, what you're looking at? Why ain't
even looking at you? I'm in heaven thought, Oh man,

(41:16):
I thought you were looking at me. Hell no, I
wasn't looking at you. I want to think about you now.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I wasn't looking at you a blasting, that's me.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I ain't looking at your ass. What man, It's all
types of things that can get you messed up in
there if you are disrespectful person. But you learn respect
very fast, right saying it with you six to two.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yep, by what?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Not a threat.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
In the walls?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Not a threat? Easy work? And I know somebody was like,
how the hell easy work? So say you call you
me and you into it. You get caught up to
third on this particular unit shower. Just what we're gonna

(42:20):
do this in the shower. They gonna warn you, don't
let him get in that shower.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
First cause you donna stab something.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Huh So Na, okay, I'm in the shower. The shower
door pushes in, so in order to get out, you
have to turn around and pull it out. You are
six to two two forty two fifty you in this
box shower. When you pull your fists back.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Here, he got a those face.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
I got this pen knife with this rusty nail on it.
As soon as you in there, you in a mongoose hole.
I'm doing it with that. Now, you trying to get

(43:17):
out of here. Now you gotta turn around to get
out of here. And I'm I thought we were doing
it with this. You six two two fifty. You bothering me.
I'm five to seven. I'm scared. And when when they come,

(43:38):
when they come, you know, I'm gonna say he tried
to rake me.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
You the poor, the family. Now you're gonna allow me
he was trying to take me.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, saying I got all the type of alibis for this.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
He lied, you stabbed up. You can't say all that.
I know this ain't true. You made your silly sit
down to pee.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Hell. Yeah, for what I'm praying on the floor, can
no urine splashes on the floor. I'm praying on the
floor yourself saying that this is the thing that prison
made me understand this. Should the hood be dirty? No,

(44:31):
the hood is supposed to be this dirty place for
all these kriminals and all your community, wherever you are
in this world, your community, it should be clean. Correct
for a mental state? Yes, because prison is clean. Ain't no,
ain't nobody staying with no dirty silly. The number one

(44:53):
thing we do is clean. My toilet's clean, my floor
is clean, my cell is clean. You ain't throwing no
trap on the float that's in prison. So why wouldn't
my neighborhood be cleaned? I challenge anybody in this world,
hey man, adopt the block in your neighborhood. Adopt the block.

(45:15):
You know what that consist of. You have to You
have to organize four clean ups a year. Give people
T shirts for turnities and sororities another over day, give
people T shirts and clean up the block and feed
them lunch. Take care of the elderly. Don't let don't
let these have dilapidated houses. That's how you say they

(45:39):
were in in your neighborhood. Clean that up. You should
can't the same hood that you claim so much, you
should want to clean it. It's all to take.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Was it tough to take a shop for the first time?
Because you're in there, like if you athlete.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
We know this.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
We go in there, we take shower, and it's twenty
guys in there. We all nekeadive a time. But the
only thing is there we there to play play football game.
A lot of those guys there, they're murderers and rapists
and YadA YadA YadA. So when you go to take
a shot for the first time. What's going through your mind?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
And what's crazy? Show? I'm an athlete, s I'm trying
to stop trying to then you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
So you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
You keep you keep out of shower, out and play basketball, football, baseball.
I know how to go in the shower, but this
is different. Everybody in the shower and you just you
shine you on you're on the team. I don't know
these people. Yes, I'm not on their team. And you
in there shining, looking out permissions in the face. You're
looking for some action. Ain't nobody looking for no action?

(46:44):
When you an athlete? No? What wasn't no athlete in there?
Yeah this Budy, Well you ain't even looking at nobody. No,
just in the shot you try to you don't make
eye contact. Well, you make our contact. You you keep
you talking to me.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
You look about it. I'm right here with that. That's it, right,
All of a sudden, you go, you got to get
out of Hey man, you.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw the play. Were talking about
the play? Yeah, you know I'm saying in the rule,
but listen, we're talking about keep all eye contents and
don't be getting close to them. Yeah that his boys
in here showering, scooting over next sea. You telling about hey,
what you're in here? Fuck killing motherfuckers who talked to
me and the show. That's what I'm in here.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Fuck they really they really do that?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Hey, man, them boys was wild and there them boys
was wild and there there's some folks that was wild
in their predatorial behavior. But nothing has to happen to
you if you're willing to meet force with force. See,
sometimes people I don't want to get in trouble, so

(47:51):
you let people say things to you. I remember this
dude said something underlining and slick to me. I met
it with extreme force. Extreme you ain't let it lie.
Oh no, oh no, extreme force. So that's why I

(48:14):
want to stand in Hollywood. People saying that people did
certain things to them or said some things to them
or tried them. Don't nobody ever do that to me
because I'm not The energy I give off is it's
going to be met with extreme force. Man. I was
watching that The Fall or Diddy, and that man said that,

(48:41):
he said, we come in there, bring all the equipment
in the in the in the bathroom. I'd have been
like what I was like, Man, don't y'all take the
xolophone in that bathroom? Well? Why hold on? Did it?
Why are we coming in the bathroom to to make beats?

(49:04):
Like I'm I'm, I'm I'm confused. Yeah, we both Like
when I saw the man somebody he came to it,
they doing the being a world of did it whatever?
And he came down with a robe on open with
no clothes on. I would have whooped the iud of
did it? If I came down and you got your
meat out and we're supposed to have a meet, all right,
you showed you shore got you know something, Everybody out

(49:26):
of here, everybody out here, because I don't want you
all to see what's gonna happen to this boy. You
know what I'm saying that they're gonna come back in there.
That naked man shouldn't put the clothes on. You gonna
get your neked ass kicked the clothes on. You came
down here, naggad, you get your ass looking at what
you got on?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Hey, hey, put your pay.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
And if that man would have told me to come
and do a beat in the bathroom while he's taking
the the man I hear certain things, and I can't
even believe it. And like in Hollywood, I wish somebody
would invite me to their private part. I wish somebody

(50:14):
would say that in a meeting with me. I wish
somebody would touch me. I have a hard time going
in the clubs getting shook down. That's why I don't go.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
You don't let the fat down.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Oh shan, you're talking about something that send me over
the goddamn tip. I'm on tour with Bill Bellamy right
and Delay there and were in this club in Baltimore.
We on the flyer, So why are you shaking anybody
down that's on the fly We not rapp us, We
not none of this. And I don't even understand that.

(50:47):
I don't send nobody taking no gun to no club.
So we're getting ready to go into the club, and
I said, the big big e are they they shaking
people down? They said many, And he knows me. He like, man,
they just gonna pat you down a little bit. And
I said, noah, bro naw, I ain't gonna be able

(51:13):
to do it, but you gotta perform in the club. Now.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
This is after part okay, after part okay, okay, okay, we.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Get to the thing and I say, Man, listen, bro,
I'm on the fly. Ain't got nothing on me. Man,
We're still then shake down, I said, bron just don't
really make no sense. Bro, Man, we're still the shake down.
So the bouncer is really adamant about patting me down.
Said man, Nah, I'm cool, Man, we just gonna shack.

(51:43):
I said, Man, why you so hell pressed? Don't touching me? Bro, Man,
I'm good. So I went and sat in the truck
in front of the club, and while I was sitting
in the truck, big Boy I really want to see
Big Boy now because like he didn't trigger something to me.
I'm like, yo, Man, I'm gonna touch on me. Bro.

(52:07):
So people coming, I said, hey, by want to molest
you when you're going there?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Oh Lord, you start some bull gives a yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I was about to ask you that. How you go
through to ASA?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Oh Man, it's it's uh, I got the pre check
when you supposed to just walk through. Man, When they
that ain't go off when everything and then talk like
you got something to here and you got something, man,
I ain't got nothing on me, man, And it's it's so.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I really, but sometimes they do be doing too much
because see I got artificial helps, so it's always gonna
go off.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I don't. I don't even try to go through the
thing I go through. I go through the radiation A
gonna get me.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
And that's when they that's when they flagged me, talking
about you got something in your private there and you
got something and like, man, what are you talking about? Man?
And said, I really have to get myself together, Like
I really like it's a thing. I really have to
get myself together. It's bad.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
What about sleeping? Could you get a wrestled? Did you
could you get a peaceful night sleep.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Well in prison?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yes, huh, yes you can sleep. You what else you're
gonna do? Mhm, Yeah, you gotta go to work in
the month. That ain't gonna work. You gotta you got
you gotta go to sleep. A lot of times I
didn't have no selling, but really, yeah, I ain't no selling.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Why you don't ran them all off?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Some of them are dead like I wouldn't. I really
wasn't with that. And I have a problem with this now.
I can't listen to nobody. P just the mess sound
of it pisses me.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I finally got somebody with me. If I go to
the bathroom, I turned the water on.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I do that.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
I don't want I don't want you to hear me,
and I close the bathroom dough. I don't want to
hear you. I'm talking about people think I was crazy.
I don't care what they think. I turned that water on.
To this day, yes I got I can't. I'm talking
about it sends me. See everybody's mad bad. You do
it too much, you ain't gonna ever get bad bad.

(54:25):
I want my girl could go to the bathroom and
leave the door, but we have a cop Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Doing too, My, my, my, The ladies and my family
never did that, like they never even like I knew
that they probably did number two, but you never smelled it.
Deare with it? None of that. They was lateies, you
know they That's.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
What I'm saying. Ain't nobody passing no gas? Women didn't
pass when I go.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Oh, they didn't pass no be see you get that day.
Women had a lot of classes about themselves. If you
a lady with them claws claws and long nails, you
like a bunch of bacteria infection to me, do that
mean you can ain't clean yourself right? Like you. Ah,
you just like I'm not a weave person. I'm not

(55:07):
an eyelash person. I'm not nothing that God didn't give you.
And I can't do it. I can't do it. It
ain't it ain't. It ain't. It ain't. And I'm meant
to ask you because you keep doing you like my
my penitential. You know, you got it. You got some
penitential stuff going on with you. You know that that
waving to the side, that's the first place I ever

(55:28):
seen it way to the side. And I tried to
do it when I had Hell, you know what I'm saying,
my waves going to the side. Yeah, I can grow here,
you Yeah, I look better like that because during the pandemic,
I look like Samuel L. Jackson when he was on Man. Man, man,

(55:51):
it's thing right here. But it grow. First of all,
I don't like to this grow faster than this. Yeah,
and so it takes me. So what happened is I
grow it, and then I cut this down to where
this is so then it to start growing together. And
and now I look all right. But man, if it
if I just let it just go, oh man, it's

(56:12):
it's a piece right here that just don't just don't work. Man.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
You had beef with the guards, you said, the script
searching and one you had I forget you. He told
me his name earlier that you Mitchell, Mitchell, you had
a problem because he makes you run your hand through
your your ball.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
I mean, man, I my hair just like that. That
man say, run your fingers through your hair. Mitchell, you're
doing a lot. How this How does how does he
even look? And it's the it's that you thought he
was effing what you didn't? Yeah, for sure, for sure,
this man he was doing this because I was a

(56:47):
person that he felt like got away with too much.
Why I wasn't a threat to know about? Man. I
moved very freely. I worked in the front, eye off.
I'm not doing nothing, and I ain't bother you. I
ain't bothered him.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
He's what you're worried about. It.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Fuck, he chose to want to be like that.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
He wanted to ride you.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
So you knew early on you gonna have a problem
with him, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I really didn't know it to that day. That was
that was like, I You're first thing aci really because
he never really worked our building. Okay, that happened when
I was on eight building. You know what I'm saying.
I came off of seven buildings. And man, some officers
just be on on some nonsense. Sometimes they just do.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Dating in prison. You have pim pal. Have anybody say
no pictures?

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Man, My friends were selling people, but they wasn't. That
was very early on in the county. Man. Once you
go to prison, you on different farms. You know, sometime
you're on a different farm. My mom would write me,
my sister would write me, but it's no, you.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Ain't get no visitation.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah for my mom. Your girl, you had no girlfriend, man,
and girls didn't come to see you like that, and
they did blowing you.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
He was breaking them off, you know, bottom stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Hey, hey, shying, stop trying to pour pour salt in
the wounds. Brother, I just carry you. How you pouring
salt in the womans? Brother, Man, I told you the
lady didn't send me none of my money.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Okay, okay, she no. I mean I can understand they
not sending their money.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
But you know, a traveling eight hundred miles or four
hundred miles to see to see you if you not
with them like that made Some.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Of these boys were y'all were you were you with
her when you went in?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, I was with everybody when I went in.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Did they know about each other?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Now I'm in these streets, man, and so them girls
ain't the young girls ain't coming to see you, shaim
I'm I'm basically a kid. These girls ain't got no
lord like that to me, the.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Man that make you feel though after you had done
so much for them, when you think when you probably
needed them the most, they abandoned you.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I really didn't even think about it. I really once
I'm in, I cut off, like the world. I think
the main thing was because my grandmother would take me
to go see my uncle mag and my uncle Alfred,

(59:28):
and she would go down to visit and I never
wanted that, Like I don't want you to come to you.
You didn't want your grandma to see you locked up.
It's just like I remember my mom. My mom has
a picture of the time that she came to see
me at Torres. I remember looking just like my uncle's

(59:49):
I got on white. I'm so black from working outside
and being there. Just man, I look terrible, and I'm
like I hated that my mom came to visit me
three times, and I hated it, and I waited till
she till I got close to what She didn't have
to drive that fall. She can't see me when I

(01:00:10):
was in Baytown. She can't see me when I was
in tourist right outside of in Hondu, Texas, right outside
of San Antonio. I didn't want my mama to go
through that, like seeing her son locked up. And she
said at the times that she did, she cried all
the way back home because you got to come see
me for an hour and then you got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Is this what this is a situation where like when
you're sitting in there, you're like, once I do this,
I ain't coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, I knew I wasn't coming back. I knew said
I wasn't coming back. So I didn't behave in a
certain way. Most of my violent stuff happened in the
first two years. Right then, I'm I'm chilling till something comes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Up, you know the way I got.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, you got you got to help, say, you know
something that's inevitable that you can't really stop, you know,
so you gotta you gotta do that. But I'm really
chilling and I'm I'm going to school, I'm doing all
the stuff. I'm going to cognitive intervention. You know, I'm
pooling people to get Man, I'm really chilling unless something

(01:01:25):
comes up. But because you really trying to acclimate yourself
to what you're gonna be like in the world, because
that's when the really work starts. Everything that you say
that you're about, you have to start doing it once
you get out. So my work ethic and how I
was doing things the same when I was inside of
the same when I was selling drugs. I'm really focused

(01:01:45):
on what I said I was gonna be. I said
I was gonna get out, I was gonna start doing
comedy and that, and with with no plan, Like I
don't have no plan. I don't know how how did
you come to that? How did you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Okay, you wanted to be a chef and now you
and you and side and you say what I get,
I'm gonna do comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
How the hell?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
How did you? How do you go from a chef
to a comic?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Man, It's crazy that I didn't want to be unhappy
in there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Okay, So that's where you started working on your stuff
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Actually I was just being I was being the regular
kid on the back of the busy Jones and Yep,
just talking like Shaynon. Oh man. It was dudes in there,
all type of dudes, big like you, and I'm coming there.
They walk in. I'm like, look got a big boy,
you know the NFL. Come on today. Don't being here

(01:02:35):
depressed because you ain't making it to the league. Man,
going over that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Leave, I said, man, I'm just saying, that could have
been you. That could have been you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
And I'm saying you you you look at you, man,
I thought you. Come on now, bro, if I was
your height, you know what I'm saying, I would have
been in the league, right. I'm saying I would say
things to people that make them think about And I
say that really Joe, you know, being jo Yo And
once I learned that I can make people day better

(01:03:08):
just me being me, saying when I come and say,
like they knew I hate the Cowboys. I would wake
up and this and this was the nineties. Cowboys was
winning and I'm in there taking it like a champ though.
I'm like, I amn what you got. I hated them Cowboys.
I remember when the Rockets, I'm going for them Knicks.

(01:03:33):
The Rockets beat the Knicks in the whole unit is
against me. It's like three people going for the knicks.
And they couldn't wait for me to walk into that cafeteria.
When the next when they when the rockets knocked the
knicks out. I'm saying, oh, this is what we're doing,
alliji you want ain't gonna see none of y'all no money.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Now you wear her got I got in there with you,
locked up ass, he said.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
But I was just just being a normal kid, just
be I'm still a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Were you a class clown when you were in elementary
school junior high school? Did you know you had this
ability to make people laugh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
That's kind of tough, say, class clown. I was jovial, right,
but I was too shy to be the main person.
You know, I've always been a slickster, like I'm a
slick talk and that's my thing. I grew up on
the back of that bus. You know, you can't be
on the back of the bus unless you got something
fly to say. You know what I'm saying. And I'm

(01:04:39):
gonna talk about you. And because people talking about me,
man shan't but you got to have tough skin, right,
And this man used to call me binoculars because my
eyes were so big. You know what I'm saying. But
it never really got to me because my uncles had
already said these type of things. And my unc Mac

(01:05:01):
came in. He said, hey, man, god nephew, I'm about
to run down to Oklahoma real quick. I need you
to look towards Oklahoma and tell me what that traffic
look like. Man, what are you saying to me? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
I am seven right. A lot of times people getting
the I had a lot of comedians. I had Bruce Bruce,
I had LaBelle Crawford on, and a lot of times
people become funny to become comics because I did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I had a list, and so to keep people from
bagging on me, I would get on somebody else.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
So I got on them and they forget that I
had a list, or I had on something raggedy, so
now they laughing at them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
So that was my whole thing with the mister, I
gotta get.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
You up off me. Oh Jane, you got that list,
and I wish, I wish I was on the back
of that bus. And you trying, and you trying to
say something like you don't even trip cools. Your rap
gonna stop in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
To cook you, to cook you. I got you on that.
You ain't no way gonna cook me. Yeah, your two
dog to cook me. Bro you leave finger prints on
charcoal A five three due.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
I would have got you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Ain't no way you would get me. Hey man, he
said he got something stuck in his teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I'd have got you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Oh man, you wouldn't have gotten me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
It was terrible that don't stop them, Stock Joe, I'd
got you. I'd have got you, stock Joe. You gotta
realize back then. It wasn't stopped then.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I came back now. But you gotta realize back when
in the seventies, being you in man, I would game
out the game and that brouh you would have got
eight up like you got a raggedy clothes on you.
I had on raggedy clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Said you just got a bathroom. Yeah, it's got bathroom
eighty five.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
But you didn't know that act it was eighty eight.
It was eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
But you didn't know that your brother, You and your
brother stand the niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
I said, come on, hirshy twins, Yeah, yeah, yeah, till
you didn't know that. See all the stuff that we
had going on. Didn't nobody know that but our family,
but everybody's family was in the same situation you had.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
If y'all bathrooms outside your clothes, wasn't that fly? I
would have got you. Yeah. I would have came in
there humming on you. No night clothes either, but they
was better than yours. God, I'm one to step up above, like, okay,
what you had on your shirt? At least I knew
what was on my shirt. What you had on your shirt,
just shirt shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
It was, you know back then serious it rollebuck, that
was j C.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
You and him j finish clause, say you up skins,
you have.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Them tough skins. I already know you had had huskys.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Man. First of all, let you would have came in
with some black jeans on. Oh hell no shouting in
her naked.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
We ain't have no black but black. Then when we
come to say it, ain't nobody wear black jeans?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
You wore huskies though, Yeah, of cor yeah you had
on huskys, you had jeans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
I was a little huge, But here's the thing, though
I was small too as a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I would have came in there be boxing. I'm like,
come on. I'm like, come on, man, you know you're
a part of the group. Fat boy, that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I't. I wasn't fat, but I was you know, I
was muscular. I worked, I was on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Farm, you know, so I had You had that country strength. Yeah, yeah,
you know y'all did y'all. Let me tell you. I
got cousins. That's from the real country.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
We had hogs and chickens. Yeah, like my cubin bail hey,
lift watermelons.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Just just strong for no reason?

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
How did you get on Comedy Central?

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Because I'm anxious to see how this comedy thing came
to where we are right now. So when did it start?
And then how did you just like or did it
seem like it were a blurred You're like, man, we
in the grind, and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
How fast it was. I got out of prison October
twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, right ninety nine, I'm on
the first I'm on Comic View right by ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Wow, damn yeah, you're moving fast.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yeah. So it comes out in two thousand. This is
the first year that they paid one thousand dollars. So
I have been on TV. If people go back and
look I've been on TV every two years. I've been
on TV since I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Started, So why haven't people just feel like you just
got you just I mean, it seemed like you just
blew up like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Yesterday because they crazy because when you were only watching
certain people. So I'm a season finale on Death Jam
in two thousand and eight. I know I understand this
because it was a big day for me because this
was the same season finale for the Wire. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm on Comic View three times, damn,

(01:09:48):
and you can't go in there with the same material,
So I'm doing different materials, you know what I'm saying,
because I had a bunch of bunch of stuff. So
Comic View three seasons, I'm on Death Jam in two
thousand and eight, I'm on Bounce TV. I'm in all
type of videos from Mike Jones to Juvenile I'm in

(01:10:11):
the all type of stuff, just going through the process
of becoming what I am now. So twenty thirteen, what
you mentioned, I'm the comic to watch. Raymond, the GM
of the improv asked me to get in this Comedy
Central competition. Okay, I get in the competition. I don't

(01:10:34):
even care if I win or lose. I don't care
because I've been cheating in competitions before. So I'm like,
I was on on Who's Got Jokes? Yeah, Now I
get on Comedy because I win that competition.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
So on Comedy Central they trying to Adam Devine has
a show. They want me to go on Adam Devine show.
I'll say, nah, I don't, that's not really my thing.
And then Chase the Russo tells me about this show.
Our Shafir has a show. This is not happening, and

(01:11:13):
I said, I looked at it online and it is
a storytelling show. I go on there and do the
story mix and got on Boots to Prison right right.
I'm on that three times with Mitchell the Mushroom story,
big stories, big views. Then I go on Bring the

(01:11:37):
Fun Out. Then I get a half hour special Comedy
Central get the half hour. Then after everybody got the
half hour, they give me a full hour. Eighteen. My
dad died right before my special come out February fourteen.
He passed special come out on the twenty third. Okay,

(01:12:00):
if people look, I've been grinding Steven for a long time. Correct,
I'm on Bring the funny, just go. I'm on tour
with DL for four years. I'm on too with Bill
Bellamy for four years. I'm steady doing things on TV.

(01:12:22):
I'm on Bounce Ev. I'm on every network because people
are watching only certain things. There's no place for somebody
who's not a buffoon or saying untrue stuff. So I'm
just constantly grinding and stay in line. B R. Burns

(01:12:48):
told me, hey, man, as long as you stay in line,
you'll get your chance. Just never get out of line,
and I never did.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
What do you learn from each step, each step in
the process. What have you learned.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
To be true to yourself and not have all this
embarrassment that comes into game. I don't. I don't look
at what other people are doing and judge myself. That's
why I have I don't understand, oh I need to
do something because somebody else on the internet doing I

(01:13:25):
don't understand that. You know, like my special that's gonna
come out on Mother's Day, my two sons. I do
everything the way that I see fit. And when you
do that, sometimes it's not gonna be liked. But am

(01:13:51):
I here for everybody to like how I'm moving? I'm
not moving like everybody else. I don't to business like
everybody else's like. I have a different ethic to everything, right,
and some of it is based on I'm not gonna

(01:14:13):
compromise the integrity of me, the fabric of me to
fit into any room. I'm gonna come into the room
as I am. And that's the and that's the only
way that I can actually survive if I'm being my
authentic self. So that's the that's the difference between me

(01:14:39):
and a lot of a lot of people. I'm not
I'm not I'm not trying to fit in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Let me ask you a question, like, when you go
on these shows, these network shows that kind of different,
would you say the audience is different than when you
go to a comedy club. So it's so to get
someone to laugh on network television as opposed to a
comedy club. And it seems like to man, not like

(01:15:05):
I said, I've never performed, but it does seem like
it's a totally different audience.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Sometimes in audiences are paid, really yeah, so a paid audience,
or you look into the audience and there's other comedians
in there, there's other people just trying to get FaceTime
as other actors and paid audience is the worst, man,
You just be sitting there because they just on the clock, right,
I ain't know that. Yeah, some of these audiences are paid.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
That's why I shoot everything live really yeah, all my albums.
Just think I have been having albums on XM radio
since twenty eleven, actually two thousand and nine. I got
what nine albums? We got nine albums, seven specials.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I got all type of when you when you do
Comic View, you do bring the fund and you do
these other comic uh, Comedy Central those Yes, good money.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Yes, okay, but you don't own it. But everything that
I produce.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
You own, right, So is that you only produce your stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Now I produce Marcus is special marriage is major surgery.
Marcus de Wiler put it on my YouTube page and
it's it is not mine. It's it's for me to
give back to him. And that's what I'm gonna do

(01:16:46):
for a lot of comics that I like. Because if
you don't want somebody to own your stuff, rock with me.
Once I recoup my bread to pay for somebody else's stuff,
you have your special back. But see that what they
do with the network does is put all this money

(01:17:08):
like it's a special that I did for Comedy Central,
Like I never owned that half hour or that bigger
than these bars. Man they was. They inflate the prices
of what they spent. So how I'm ever get it back?
And I tried to buy it back from him and

(01:17:29):
and they they put it out on YouTube after the
success of Domino Effect Crazy, So I'll never get that back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Who went the first comedian to put you on man
on like what to give you your break? That brought
you on tour with.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Them, Lavel Savell Crawford. That was the first person that
I did a show with outside of Hue right level.
And then after that dldal was a d L was
a real turning point though. That was a real turning

(01:18:11):
point to have a friend and a mentor like that
that you can call that was a that's a real thing.
Then Bill Bellamy, but dal deal was a turning point.
He taught me a lot of class.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Yeah, because I'm looking at d L.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Cheryl Underwood, Dick Gregory, Chris Tucker, Leavell Crawford, Bill Bellamy,
Bill Burr. Earthquake said Eddie Griffin, j Anthony Brown, Bruce Bruce,
Mike elf Ricky smiling Kevin Hart.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Now, some of the advice that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
These comedians have given you, I think Cheryl Lnderwood told
you need to cut your hair, yep. Ricky smiling told
you the world suit yep. Dick Gregor said Hollywood isn't
going to be a.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Place for you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
He did ain't that so he saw it early.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
How have you been able to carve out your own path,
find your own niche stay true to who you are,
because a lot of times, if you're trying to get
the bag, and if there's a way I could get
the bag and not, you know, like, maybe I have
to tell a different style of joke, maybe I have
to be different than what I originally plan to be.
But I'm really trying to get at that bag. How

(01:19:16):
have you been able to stay true to ali.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I'm not about the bag.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
That a bag doesn't impress you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Now see when you're not about the bag, if you're
doing everything for money, that's how I ended up in prison.
I learned the lesson for real. Wow, I'm not sacrificing

(01:19:47):
any integrity anything to get a bag. I'm not because
I already know what that feel like to only run
after the bag, Because that's what I was doing when
I was selling nough, just running after the bag. The

(01:20:07):
hell with everybody else, the hell with the honor of
my family, the hell with the integrity of my neighborhood,
the hell with me, the help with my education, any
of that. I'm out there chasing a bag to get what,
another car, a house, all of that nonsense for what. Man.

(01:20:32):
It's like, I have to take the advice of the
elders when they give it to you. That's what my
book is about, applied advice. Okay, this man told me
one day and I and I took this to heart.
He said, young brother, you cannot be all the way

(01:20:54):
about money and material things. You got to have some
type of integrity about your so because it is I've
never seen a U haul following a hearse stuck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Have you ever talked to Chappelle? Chappelle is one of
the great storytellers.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
I mean, he can I mean, and it seems I
mean I'm listening you listening to him talk, and he's
telling the story and you feel like you're there. But uh,
and and like he walked away from fifty mill. You
cool with Chappelle? You you making a face? What's going on, Yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
We're good. We we've had conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Is no y'all has a difference of opinions? No, okay, no,
none of that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
We we cool. I applaud David Banner for being a
man of his word. If you tell me something, you
got to keep that, okay, because if I tell you something,

(01:22:09):
I'm going to keep that, right Okay, don't offer me.
I don't need you to offer me no nonsense, especially
when I'm not asking for it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I get salams to that, brother, And that is where
I leave that at.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Jokes, where are you joke stealing? Because that seemed to
be a point of contention and amongst comedians.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Stop telling the same jokes everybody, stop saying stop being
so predictable. I think sometimes people don't even steal. Yeah,
you're still in a joke, and I have to be
putting in the in the realm of like what what

(01:23:00):
is like? Give me an example of a joke stealing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Well, the most famous one, obviously, the Cat said he
told a joke about a spaceship, and he believed said
took that joke and made it about a Cadillac.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
He told a joke. I think he's told it on
Comic View. I think he told it on comic View.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Okay, give you an example. Okay, Cat's joke was about
your car being so raggedy that you didn't know that

(01:23:43):
it cut off. You got your music up loud, your
car didn't go right. Cedric's joke is about black people
being able to drive anything, even a spaceship. Two different things.
If I play it without no sound, then you could

(01:24:09):
probably say that. But if you listen to what was
being said, it's two different things. One is raggedy car,
one is a spaceship. Spaceship. Now, I said to myself
when I heard it, that black people want to hear
something bad about people, so bad that they just willing
to go with anything, said one of the most beloved

(01:24:30):
people beloved. What did he steal the How else can
you drive something? If that's the case, if this is
what we're stealing, then both of them stole it from
Miss Laurel Off death jail because that was the first

(01:24:51):
person I seen driving in the car to go a
wig off. I don't think that was fair. I didn't
think that was fair. I thought that I thought that
was I thought that was really in poor taste for
the simple fact of if you doing impersonation, you're still
in mm hmm, you're still If you do an impersonation

(01:25:14):
and you do a quote from a movie, you're stealing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Well, it's funny that you say that. I've heard read
that you and Kadey kind of had some going back
and forth piece. I don't know how it happened. I
think you said that you're supposed to perform on one
of his shows under card or something that didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
So you give us the backdrop of what happened. I
wanted to hear you tell what. I don't think there's
I don't know if there's anything going on now. Maybe
you don't here made peace, y'all, got on a fault,
jumped on the call or something. But what transpired that
you were supposed to, like with a street port, whether
it's someplace in Louisiana that you were supposed to be
on the show or text us?

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
So what really, what really happened.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
To you?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
It's been some years, so the best of yours, do
your best of your guesstimation.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I'm well aware what happen. I'd been on the show.
It was two days. I performed the first day I
had already performed. The second day, I went outside to
get my friend Ghetto, and then they wouldn't let me

(01:26:30):
back in, saying, the cat didn't want you back in
the building. I had already performed both days, So I
didn't understand the he didn't whatever his response was to it,
I didn't understand that part of it. But I never

(01:26:54):
knew why he was upset about whatever, whatever the worry.
I never knew what happened. So me and you hanging
out at the party. You at my house, you go
outside to your car, you come back, come back in

(01:27:17):
from the car, and it's two people at the door saying,
I really don't want you back in his house.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Man, I just left.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
I was just in now. He said, he don't want
you back in his house.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Bro, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Bro, Get off my lawn before you go to jail,
because I'm out the call police. I don't want you
back at my house.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
But I was just in your house.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I hate nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
You heard out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
You went to the car to get a cigarette. I
don't want you to get back in my house. Get
your out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Get the can't pay you for few days that you performed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
I ain't even carried a check.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
He didn't pay you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, he paid me. I didn't catch a check. That's
how mad I was. I told that up.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Well, that's on you, dad.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
I ain't saying that. I didn't say who wasn't about
to pay me? I'm sitting okay once again, you were
just in my house, Yeah, drinking, having a good time.
You left your bottle looking at that. I never put
your out. I didn't really put you out. You went
outside against cigarette. I don't let you back in the
next time you see me, do you want to know

(01:28:21):
what happened? Are you just cool with?

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Just played out?

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I played out?

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
So the next time you see cat, did you have
a conversation that cat bro? What went on? What happened?
Why would I not allowed to get back in the building?

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
We never had the conversation. It's never been an explanation.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Have y'all not been in the same place, the same
city at the same time since then?

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Oh, we have been in the same city. We have
been in the same city.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Would you like to have a conversation?

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Nah, but you own some boy. I said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
What I'm saying is this, what I'm saying, is this
that would have been possible before. You lied on me
after that, trying to make it seem like I was
some small person.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
So what do you say?

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
On wille Dee podcast, he said all this like I
was trying to get on the show and he paid
me for nothing and he the king and all this
other bull jive. Realistically, Shannon, it's not even worth my time. Realistically,

(01:29:53):
it's not worth my time because, like like my boy
told me, hey man, we ain't gonna give you no
point for doing nothing to Cat. He ain't even he
ain't even in the same league with you. I only
spoke up when it was being when the when the
challenges was being issued to everybody, especially Kevin, for all this.

(01:30:17):
I'll play basketball, which I'll rap against you. I'll box
against you. I started celebrity boxing. Then when he said that,
I said started celebrity boxing. I said, wait a.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Minute, you ain't up you you got you you you
boxed before. So it don't work like that, will it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
D and Meli Mayo had a boxing match, celebrity boxing match.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Neither one of them had boxed before. That's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
That's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
So well, I'm gonna get you in Cat together, have
a conversation. I'm gonna be there. I don't trust you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
You be on some bullyy and you know and and
and because you said it just like that, I and
I agree with you. I agree with you, and I
shouldn't be trusted because I know if you own some
unmanly with me, I'm gonna sock your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
We're gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
But I wanna, I wanna be. I want to be peaceful.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
I donna be peaceful.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
I would love to be. People share list listen. I promise,
I look you man to man, I promise, because this
is something that I would prefer to put all the
way behind me.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
But I know me, I know me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
I'm not gonna let the ride eim it till happened
because somebody lied on right. So with just like with Quincy,
that man who hit me in my eye, I've attacked
this man every time I've ever seen him, I'm attacked him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Damn man, that been thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
I wouldn't give a damn. I still see double my
eye because it decided to hit me for no reason.
Last time I saw that man, he was on a
walker in Walmart and I was with my mom. I
told my mama go to the car.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
What kind of bull job you on?

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
You ain't supposed to have to do that to old people.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
You ain't supposed to do that to young people.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
You wanna have good luck?

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
You said what you trying to without? Yeah, what I'm
gonna say this, I really don't have. Like the man
is talented, I don't got no no problem with the talent.
It's talking about Cat, right, yeah, cat, No problem with
his talent, no problem with his accomplishments. You just can't

(01:32:50):
be on some when you talk when you're dealing with me,
and you gotta be a man. And whatever the problem
was that night that day, you could could have came
to say it's something to me, right, but then to
go forward and then talk down like man, like I'm
some small guy in his business. Okay, that's how you feel.

(01:33:13):
But I don't think that you can do anything that
I can't do. I can be on private jetson I
gotta I can have an entourage. I've been on I've
been on a on a tour. I'm doing all let
but you know, I mean, you got the same braces on.
You just got a couple of diamonds, and I gotta
nail too.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Hey, I can't fly private. I ain't fing to tell
nobody that lie.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
But you got I like Southwest? Yeah, Delta me you Delta, Yeah,
Delta too far.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
First of all, in Houston, y'all don't do the other
Southwest every night do everything?

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Mann man, y'all try to fly. I gotta fly to
go somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
I gotta fly from Houston to Salt Lake City in
Detroit to go to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
And nah, we ain't everything everything from depth to go
to Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Nah, y'all see me, Me and George, George, we got
stuck in Salt Lake from from Houston to Salt Lake
Delta on Delta.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Why they see you in south Lake when they when
they go to they.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Go uh huh. And then the flag got canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
That's Delton. You would have got on soutthe where they
would take you around right there. Don't don't get on
that South on the friendless car South. Where is the
no no, no, no, they about they about to go
to their science seas now. I don't know what they do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Yeah, that counter call, I don't do the cattle call.
You got anything you want to promote? You got any
specials coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Oh yes, I am dropping my new special May the sixteenth.
It will be called it is called My Two Sons
that's coming out, and Marcus D. Wilder specialist out right
now marriage Marriages Made Surgery. Then I'm dropping another special
call Rugged on Father's Day, you know, and you can

(01:34:59):
see them on moment at first, you know, on pay
per view. You know, I'm trying to do things big.
And then I got a book coming out or you know,
Applied Advice, which is a which is a great book
which is about getting advice from people and actually putting
it into use, not just hoarding it and hearing it.
Because people people do that all the time. And you'll
give them some advice and then next time you see

(01:35:20):
and they still ain't used it. You like said, while
you waste my time. And if you if you I'm
I'm gonna give you this. If you make that happen,
I promise on my on my sister's grave, I promise
I will not have no hostility. I won't come in

(01:35:43):
there on on nothing. I just I'll be bone.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Won't make it happen. That's that's my word, honest and deep.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
Thank you at least go underground Resource World Las Vegas
for a Lolly Club to this very special episode here today.
Keep up with a Leaft go underground on social media
at resource World.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
L V all my life, Grinding all my.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Life, sacrifice, Ustle, pa the price?

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Want to slice?

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
Got the brother?

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
All my life? I've been grinding all my life. All
my life, grinding all my life, sacrific Tustle, pay the price.
One slice, got the brother? Why all my life? I've
been grinding all my life, y

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
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