Club Shay Shay - Amber Rose Part 2

Welcome back to part 2 of our conversation with Amber Rose!

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe sits down with the one and only Amber Rose—a model, entrepreneur, activist, and media personality who has been a cultural force for nearly two decades. Amber opens up about growing up in South Philly, overcoming a tough childhood, and her early dreams of becoming an epidemiologist after witnessing the impact of HIV/AIDS in her community.

Amber doesn’t hold back as she shares her struggles with homelessness, her early days stripping at 15, and her journey into the world of video vixens and modeling. She speaks candidly about falling in love with Kanye West, love bombing, and how Kanye styled not just her, but also Kim Kardashian and his current wife, Bianca Censori. Despite everything, she admits she still has a special place in her heart for Kanye and reflects on their time together.

From her experiences in Hollywood’s elite circles to the harsh truth about the entertainment industry being purely transactional, Amber drops major gems about friendships gone wrong, co-parenting with Wiz Khalifa, and why she’s no longer a feminist. She also dishes on celebrity drama, from Cardi B & Offset’s public breakup to Draya & Jalen Green’s relationship.

Amber also revisits the infamous 2009 MTV Video Music Awards, where Kanye West interrupted Taylor Swift’s speech to declare that Beyoncé’s Single Ladies deserved the award. She shares her thoughts on that controversial moment, calling it “crazy” that Taylor won over Beyoncé, and reflecting on her time with Kanye during that era.

She also opens up about her struggles during the COVID-19 pandemic, including postpartum depression, mental health battles, and finding out her boyfriend was cheating on her during one of the toughest times of her life. Plus, Amber addresses plastic surgery, dating rumors, and wild industry parties, including what really went down at Diddy’s legendary events. She even gives her take on Drake’s criticism, Kanye’s controlling ways, and the entertainment industry’s biggest secrets.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underway?
Age limit? Is there an age limit for you on dating?
Is this? Is there an age like you're like, you
gotta be this age and you can't be over that age?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
So is there a Shannon, I'm gonna be honest with you,
these twenty two year olds are on my body.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, I can believe it.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And it's so. And I'm like old enough to be
your mama. Like I'm forty one years old. I don't care.
I don't even like girls my age. A da da dah.
They immature very yeah, yeah, and immature for sure. I'm
just saying that's that's not my thing, right, But I
mean there's some little cutie pies, but they're young as hell.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
So you say you're forty one, so if they're like
at least has to be at least thirty and then
I'm not a going above fifty. So is there like
thirty and fifty that's my that's my demo? Or is
it thirty sixty that's my demo? What's what's what's the demo?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
What's the It depends. It depends on the man. It depends. Yeah,
because if I if I really like love you or
I like you. I'm the one that I'm the one
to have sex all day. So you can't be too old?
Were you that you can't? You gotta be able to

(01:17):
hands with me because I'm in my prime right now.
Hell yeah, I did say I wasn't gonna yees listen.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Joan, check my bang over there. Join. But you call
criticism when you dated Savage? I think he was twenty four.
You were thirty three.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Is that nine years? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah? Is that? Is that the is that the biggest
age discrepancy as far as you being older? Amber? Let
me find out you're passing out now, ladies and Jolly.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Ranch got no again.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I mean guys like what they like?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
These young boys shed it. I mean, you know, after
a while you just say.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
You know, like we were and when I was when
I was in high school and the teacher didn't look
like they look now. I'm what I'm saying. When you
found when you had one teacher that you like, yeah,
and here you are, like twelve thirteen and she's like
twenty five, You're like, wow, man, I can't wait to
get so I guess yeah, I can. I can see guys.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think that's what I think that's what happened with
girls my age, right, These young boys watched us for
a long time and now they're old enough to pursue
us and date us, and that's why they're on us
like that. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You see the situation. And I think she got more
criticism than you, Drea Michelle and Jalen Green. I think she.
I think her oldest son is actually the same age
is Jalen Green? And you know, and you know, Jayleen's
grown and people are like, well, you know, groom, she
didn't meet the kid when he was seven. Bro, I mean,
come on now, Yeah, I don't know if you know her,

(03:14):
but what do you think about that situation?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I one, I think to each his own, and he
is a grown man, correct. I think that the outrage
is more so that her son was the same age
my son, my oldest is twelve. So if my oldest
was twenty two, I may feel different as a mother
talking to a twenty two year old. I don't know.
I'm not sure about that. But for me to talk

(03:39):
to a twenty two year old, I don't really care.
I wouldn't date them and be serious with them, but
I had my little fun and then I'll keep it moving,
you know. But I think that was the outrage. But
I think they look beautiful together and have a baby together.
They seem happy, They seem very happy.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I'm looking at al Pacino. Al Pacino's eighty three.
Uh he just had a baby and uh she was
twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah that's what I said too.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, good for her, but that might be a bit.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
But that might be a bit bunch. Ever, that might
be a bit more.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
How much is Albutineo worth?

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Probably three hundred?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well, good for her.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, he definitely he definitely ain't going all day, so
hopefully you know, she only scheduled.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah. See yeah, See that's what I can't deal with.
I can't deal with. I can't deal with that. That's
too old for me.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I mean god, Lee, I mean, well, you have to
get somebody this twenty the early thirties, that's.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Not true medications.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, oh yeah, okay with the metter case you better
case you medter case, you better cass shot. Shout out
to Roe Sparks. Let me ask you this. Yeah, when
someone shares dating your your youngest son's father, yes, you
you'll be okay, with like when when when other celebrities
date people that you once dated, you be okay with that?

(04:59):
You're like, try to you trying to beat me or
something like that. Do you do you get upset with it?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, I mean, if you look at my track record,
all my exes dated, Babbage is after me. I was
their initial Babbage, right, and then Babbage is when to
date them because I dated them. That's just how the
game goes.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
But they can't see you though, which you mean the
ones they dating now for you, ain't you? They try
to get they try to replace you.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
If that's your opinion, I'll take it. I'm not finna
say that. Okay, you know, but God bless them. Look
when it comes to my children, as long as my
children are happy, I grew up with step parents. I
know how it is to have step parents, or my
mom was dating people and stuff like that. I don't
feel no type of way. As long as these women

(05:50):
are nice to my children, that's all I care about. Honestly.
All the other stuff is it means nothing to me.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
But why do people try to get in a way
when someone is dating someone older, be it the man
dating a younger woman or the woman dating a younger man.
Why do people always try Why they can't just be
happy for him? I mean, that's not your life. Yeah,
why do you care? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't know why. I mean, you know how the
internet is. They just everyone has an opinion. Everyone has
something to.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Say, but they think their opinion matters to it does not.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Because I'll tell you when I got canceled because I
endorse Donald Trump. Right when I'm out in the street,
I'm not canceled. Everybody still wants pictures. Everybody says to me,
I still go. Do you know charity softball games give
out autographs? Show up here there in the third You
would think it never even happened on the internet. So
the Internet is faked.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's just a It's just a loud as. They make
the most noise it is. I had to learn that
in the hard way because I was thinking, because everybody's
had something negative to say Amber and I was like, damn.
But then my sister says, Shannon, do you think you
could be where you are on ESPN? You did? You
got Club Shashe, you got Nightcap, you got all these

(07:04):
sparks and advertisers. Do you actually think you could be
this if all these people hated you exactly, and once
you really think about.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
It, No, everybody that can talk about you or meet
on the internet, when they see us, they would ask
us for a picture and they would be excited.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Not one person I've met in the last three years
since I've been on my own have ever said anything
that somebody said to me on the internet.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's what I'm saying. It's all fake. It's all fake outrage.
And you sit at home and you read it and
you're just like consumed with it. You get all nervous,
and then you go out. You're like, no one really
gets it. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Give me some relationship advice. What's the best relationship advice
you can give me? Am, I'm hurt right now. I'm
hurt right now. Oh pull, hustle hard up.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
You're trying to get somebody back.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Hell, I might be trying to get somebody.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
You trying to get somebody. I would say, be a genuine,
a genuine person, don't be a liar, don't be a
love bomber. Spend some money. Girls like money, Shannon.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
They do. Yes, I'll hustle. I ain't got it like that.
You got it like that?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
You've been you you got had club shase shape for
three years. Yeah. If you have money, you gotta spend
money on girls. If you want an upper echelon type
of girl, you have to spend money much enough, nothing crazy,
but you got you gotta take the girls shopping. You
gotta be like yo.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I was, no, okay, you do not.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I was thinking about you. I bought you a Chanel
bag or a burkin. I just think channel bag is fine.
Early on it is fine.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
They started like twelve fifteen hour.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Chanel bags do too, though sheel bags are up there
as well. All I'm Shannon, No, you got it. Don't
sit here and act like that. Don't be cheap. Girls
don't like that. You got to spend that money.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Man, I might have to put two ends in ch nail.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You don't get it from what's that website? The Ta
moved or Ali Baba.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Public breakups? You know you date public? You got to
break up public and it's bad. Yeah, and it's really
bad now between CARTI and Offset. If you're in a
situation like that, would you go back and forth with
your X online?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I would not, but some people feel the need to. Why.
I also think I've been famous much longer than Cardi. Yeah,
I think when you're newly famous, you do feel like
you have to explain to the internet. So you I've
taken plenty of l's on the internet because I just
didn't explain myself. They've associated me with men that I

(10:02):
never even met in my life. And just like, I'm
not going to sit here all day and dwell on this.
They're going to do it anyway whatever. But she she
feels the need that she has to defend herself, and
I'm actually not mad at it. Like I look back
and be like, damn, it's kind of inspiring that she
does that. I kind of wish I did that early on.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
You know, well, when you and Kanye broke up, he
had something a song to say, and he says something
really negative about you, and I felt that he could
like that. He said that he had like something he
had to take a bath or something. You remember that
that didn't couldn't have made you feel good.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, listen, I'll tell you something, Shannon. Men that are
in new relationships sometimes they have to say mean things
about their ex so their girlfriend. Their girlfriend doesn't feel
bad about it.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
No, No, I am in the problem. I am in
the problem.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Nobody tuk it down to somebody else it psychologically or like,
that's what they do so the girl can be like, yeah, yeah,
talk about her. So it makes me feel good. I'm
not an insecure If a man said that about his ex,
I'd be like, you spent two years with her, You
took her all around the world, you brought her everything

(11:18):
she wanted. She knows your whole family his you know
his aunties and cousins. They still hit me in Dan's
and call me and text me years and years later,
checking on me and my kids. So I was good
enough for you to be with. It's not like me
and Kanye were. We were together in a relationship for
two years. You know what I'm saying. So to say

(11:41):
that about me is that wasn't cool.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Did you hit him up and say, bro, why you
do that for what?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
For what? I'm not hitting that man up. He knows what.
One day I'll get my apology. One day he'll come
out and be like, I should have never said that,
dumb ash it. But that's why I said he likes
fingers in his booty. Oh, because it was just like
but I didn't say that as a factual statement. I

(12:07):
said it because it's like, you want to hurt my feelings.
I'm just gonna hurt your feelings. So you know, it
was childish and it was immature, But thirty showers was
crazy when I didn't even have sex with you unprotected
until you got tested. You're Kanye Weston. I made you
get tested before we had unprotected sex. So how you

(12:30):
got to take thirty showers after me? I wasn't the
one au cheating and doing dumb. I didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, you know, I do know. Let me ask you this,
what about these rumors? You know there's a Chris Rock rumor.
There was a room with c J. Stroud and then
this room of last room with Amon Shumper because I
think they photographed you.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, Amon is I called Emon to hook me up
with other guys. That's my dog, like, Emon is like
literally one of my best friends. So me and mom
have nothing going on. We never had nothing going on. CJ.
Straw was nice enough to give me a ride home.
I was in Houston. My assistants from Houston. He went
to go visit his mom and I didn't have anybody

(13:15):
with me. I was supposed to take the sprinter back
to the hotel for this charity game last year, and
the sprinter left me. So CJ was like, I live
in Houston. I don't mind giving you a ride back
to the hotel. I'm not going to leave you here
to get it uber and I was like, thank you,
I appreciate it took me to the hotel. We're all
over the internet the next day. So it's just like

(13:35):
things like that. It makes my life tough because let's
say I am pursuing a man or somebody likes me
and they're like everybody you know, it's just not what's
happening at all.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Wow. Yeah, my beautiful, dark twisted fantasy album. Yeah that
was about you. Huh.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You gotta ask him that.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, I mean people say he was making good
music when he was with you. He might need to
get back.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
They all make good music with me.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm saying he need to come on back, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh no, No, he don't need to come back.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
He didn't come back. He need to come to Amber Music.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
No. No, I'll be his friend, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
On the Blame Game, Amber Rose on the Blame Game songs,
what were you trying to say?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Who you I say nothing on that Jesus talk.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
You say Jesz taught me the blame game skit.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh that's a mean yeah, No it's not. No, the
Internet says that it's me right, that is not me, okay,
just like the Internet said he found me in the
strip club in my life, that did not happen.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
He rescued you here, rescued.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
When Kanye jumped up on that stage and took that
mic from Taylor swellt yeah, what was going through your mind?
I was like, Holy, did you have any idea he
was going to do that?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
No? No, No, I had no idea. I had no
idea he was going to do that. And he was
so fast. He was like sitting right here, and then
I think it was like Beyonce's Solange and like we're
sitting next to me on this side, and he was
so fast. And you know, even to this day, I

(15:26):
tell people like he was wrong for taking Taylor's moment. Yes,
I agree with that. Was he wrong in what he said? No,
he was not wrong. And I think over time being famous,
you see a lot of things that are just not okay.
And they used celebrity as pawns in their in their
weird little game, right, and he was just fed up,

(15:50):
and when he got off the stage, he was instantly remorseful.
He apologized to Taylor and her mom.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
It's over though. You can't apologize for that. I mean,
you gonna apologize.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I get it, I get it, but at that moment, yeah,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
To have something. I don't know if we've ever seen
it's kind of like a protest, and we've seen, you know,
politicians and somebody throw a pie in their face and
put eggs and you know, things like that. But to
be at the Grammy, that's her. The matter of fact,
I think I might have been her first.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
It was the MTV Awards and.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
That might have Yeah, well she she won what Album
of the Year or something of the year.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
She won Video Video Year. Yeah, one Video of the
Year over Beyonce single Ladies. That's kind of crazy sing
come on it is crazy. And I love Taylor Swift.
She's always been very nice to me and my children.
But Beyonce should have won and sometimes.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
But that wasn't his place. It was if if Beyonce
jump up on stage and snatch that snatch the microphone,
I can live with that, but not him.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
What was the ride home? Be true?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
So on the ride home was it quiet? It was like, damn, Kanye,
I think you might have messed up on this one.
What was the ride home like?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, if I remember correctly, he was on the phone
with people and I think people were just like, why
didn't you just write that? But then we went to
the Spoted Pig and we were having a good time,
and he did feel bad. You know, Like it's hard

(17:19):
for me because I do have a place in my
heart for Kanye, you where I know the good side
of him. I've experienced the good side of him. But
when he surrounds himself with people that just feed the
dark side of him, he's not living at his full potential.
So I feel bad when I see things that he

(17:40):
does sometimes, and I'm like, you don't have somebody around
you that's maternal in a way, that's gonna They're gonna
sit you down and love on you and get you
to do the right things.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
You know, do you believe he's a different person after
his mom died? How much impact did that have on him?
Because everybody seemed to believe that from the moment that
happened that he's been a very different Kanye with so
I haven't had.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
The pleasure of meeting his mom. I've met Kanye after
his mom passed, but I will tell you from experience.
My mother lost her mother at a young age. So
when I did get with Kanye, I knew how to
take care of him because I had always taken care
of my mother.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
And so.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
He wasn't acting like that with me, Shannon. He wasn't
that guy he did the MTV show, But he wasn't
acting like how he's acting now. When he was with me.
He wasn't doing that because I would sit him down
and talk to him and, you know, tell him to
go in the other room and take a picture of
his mom and speak to her and tell her about

(18:47):
your day and tell her how much you miss her,
and light some candles and cry and it's okay. You know.
I don't think he has anybody around him that's really
I don't know, just loving on him, just loving on
him the proper way. That's just me from the outside
looking in. That's just how I feel.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
When you see Kanye today, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Again? I think that he has enablers around him that
don't actually care about him. That's what it looks like
to me. I don't have inside information on what's going
on in that camp, but just looking from the outside,
and that's what it looks like to me.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
When you see Kanye and his wife, I don't know
if it's his ex wife, the reports that they're getting divorced,
so forth, and song Let's just say for the sake
of argument, they are together and you see how she's dressing.
Is that she's dressing like that or Kanye dressing her honey?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Is for her like that? Yeah? He did the same
thing to me and Kim is.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Why is he like? I mean, obviously you're a very
statuesque woman. You have curves, you you know, you're very figured.
What is it? What is it a about that that
he wants the world to know, look at my woman?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
We can see he wants other men to want his woman.
That's what he's into. He likes that, he likes he
likes that men are like drooling over his woman. That's
what he's into.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, yeah, I mean I like to think anybody
that I'm I'm with that somebody wants her. If Helen
don't nobody want her. But me, I need a real
sens I need to real sens what I'm doing. But
to like to really like man, I won't.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, he wants all his friends doing his girlfriend. He
wants everybody that when you walk in a room, that
his girlfriend or wife is the most desirable.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
And she's the baddest be in the room.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's what he likes.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah m hm, And you dressed like that because that's
what he wanted. You want to please your man.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I was young, and who I'm gonna tell Kanye No,
Like when I'm that young, it's like, Okay, you're buying
me this stuff. I do look pretty cool. But Shannon,
now if you look at old pictures of me when
I'm dating Kanye, but I'm out by myself, I have
all his clothes on. Yeah, I have a baggy jeans on,

(21:13):
T shirt, big ass jacket. I rated his closet when
he wasn't home, I would wear all his stuff because
I used to hate to dress like a whore. Basically,
I used to hate it. So I used to rebel
when he wasn't home and I would go in his closet.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
So I ask you this, ideally, how does the amber
rose like to dress is the occasion appropriate. So if
I'm going to the Grammys, I'm going to someplace else,
I'm going to dress appropriate. But when I'm in when
I'm just hanging out with my girls, I'm saying, you're
not wearing all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, I'm in sweatpants and I'm in a sweatsuit usually
with some Jordan's on, maybe a little dad hat or something.
I'm very casual.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Would you? I mean I don't think you had you did?
I mean I think you did have one little seat
through dresses that Kanye put his wife in at one
point in time.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yes, I did. Amber I cried, really, yes I did.
I remember crying. I was in like Italy or Paris
or something, and I remember crying and arguing with him
and being like, I don't want to wear this. I
don't want to wear it. You don't understand his fashion.

(22:26):
I'm a genius, you know. I hear, and it's like, Okay,
I still don't want to wear it, but I wind
up wearing it. They ate me up on the internet
and they ate me up and then.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I'm like, the guys will try to eat you up.
To the guys. The guy loved it. The guy loved it.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I was like, oh my god, I really just don't.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, that's something you let as you look back, that
was many many years ago. It was if that was
something you do again. You never do anything like that again.
Do what were something like that? No, but that was
because that was prior kids. It was so you got
kids now, so you guys be like, nah, I got boys. No,
I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah. Yeah. So I'm actually on only fans, right, okay,
And so I know only fans has like this stigma
of like corn and right, I am on only fans.
I'm doing cute pictures, selfies. I'm talking to my fans. Hey,
what are you doing today? Oh I'm going on Club
Shadehay today. Make sure you tune in next week.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Blah blah.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
That's my only fans. I make a lot of money
on only fans.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Beat picks, No, I don't do feed No.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean everybody got their price. Yeah, somebody asked for
a feet pick. It depends on what they want to
pay outs and my feet who cares? But yes, because
I have children, there's certain things that I just will
not do because I respect and love my boys.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
You're a model for Louis Baton Ford models Vogue Walk
to Run with at New York Fashion Week? How is
that world? What is it like to be a model?
Because I think you know what is is? What is
that world like? I would like to go to fashion
Week in Paris. I like to go sit down and
see a Tom Ford show or d or whatever the
case may be. I like to see one of those shows.
What what's that world like?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Ever, I personally don't like it. Really, It's not my thing, Shannon.
I'd rather have a barbecue with some loud music and
be with my friends and like dance and just have
a good time with no phones and just chill out.
I'm that girl, right. Fashion week is very superficial. Although

(24:24):
I love brands.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
I'm wearing Baman, but I'm looking at the shoulder pass.
I'm like, that's something I probably should know.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, yes, my adjusts. So don't get me wrong. I
like certain things within fashion, but I do not like
the fashion world. Most of the people are ugly. There's yeah,
there's ugly on the inside too. You know, they're just
ugly people on the inside. Because it's not about who

(24:54):
you are as a person, it's about what you have
on and only what you have on. So it becomes
very over there because no one is actually real. It's like,
what did you have to do to put this eight
thousand dollars outfit on? What did you have to do
to get that?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
You know?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
And that's all they care about out there, So it's
just not really my world.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Wow, is modeling really a cut the business? It is?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
It is very much. It's like every other business. It's
like depends on who and what what you know, what
connection you have is all the same, it's all the same.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Did you ever interact with Naomi Campbell? Tower Banks? Did
you ever meet They were a.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Little bit before you, way before me, like twenty years before.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Okay, I got something because this seems to be like
the last year and a half, there's been all this
talk about these Hollywood parties.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Ever, what's really going on?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
You ain't up anybody to hard with.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I've been to probably everyone. I've been to every puff party.
I've been to every white party since two thousand and nine.
I've been to every party.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And you just going the wrong You go in the
right room, not the wrong room.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't think there's rooms Chan, I'm gonna be honest. Now. Look,
I'm gonna be very, very transparent on the show. If
these freak offs are happening, it's on a completely different
day than the actual Puffy. It's not that day because

(26:35):
every time I was there, Puff was there the whole time.
You know, he's hey, you got the Sarah, he's on
the DJ booth, he's the host of the party. I
will say that now I've had this conversation with ray J.
Rayge is one of my best friends. I said, ray
did they ever invite you to a freak golf? Because
they never invited me and I donet been at these parties.

(26:55):
I just feel like, why.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Get the invite because I know you don't get down
like that.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Maybe they know I don't get down like that. Okay, cool,
but you would think maybe an assistant would come up
and be like, hey, you like girls, or like, you
know you into Never no one ever asked me that.
They never asked ray J either, And me and ray
J was talking about it. We were like, i'dn't been
to the party, the after party, the after after party,

(27:20):
I've never seen none of that stuff. But that's not
to say that it does not happen or invalidate people that.
But I do think it's a different day that I'm
just not invited to. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
You think it's a plot because we saw it happened
with Russell Simmons. Now we see it happen with Pete Diddy,
and you think it is a plot or a ploy
to take down prominent hoigh powered black man.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't know. It really depends on the evidence, right,
because they did say that there were drugs in the
baby oil. I don't know. That's a legend.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
A thousand bottles of baby on.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's what I'm saying. I don't know, because the Internet
is fake, Like you said earlier, you just don't know.
But if that is in fact true, then that that
is a problem. One thing I do know about Puff
is that he's an abuser. You know, he abused Cassie.
We all saw the videos. It is not okay. And

(28:18):
but as far as the freak offs, I don't know
about that. I just.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Did you have When I say relationship, I don't mean
intimate relationship. Did you have a relationship with Puff Daddy?
Where you cool? Did you talk? Did you know him?
Things like that.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I would say that we didn't talk on the phone
and we didn't hang out, but I was always invited
to the party. Okay, and that's the extent of our friendship.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Okay. Now, is it true that you were at the
Halloween party that Puff's sons and ray J got into it?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I was, yes, I was right there.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
They just pressed ray J. They were just like, stop
talking about dad, and then ray J said what he said,
like something like I know your dad better than you
know your dad or something like that, and then it
just got ugly for a second. Yeah, because I'm cool
with Christian and Justin and Quincy, but then I also

(29:18):
love ray J. It's like my brother, and I'm just like, guys,
please just just stop. It's not worth it, y'all. Don't
want to do this, like so it, you know. And
I told ray Je, I said, look, that's their dad.
What do you expect them to do? Like of course
they're going to stand up for their dad, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Like rightfully.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
So.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
But it's reported that breeze It Chris Brown was the peacemaker.
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I think I was the peace name that was you? Well,
from what I remember, I was going to both sides
and like, y'all don't need to do this. But maybe
Chris came down at some point. It was in the garage.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
What have you learned about thing? Oh, because you've had
more than fifteen minutes, you've had two decades of it.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, it's going on sixteen years. What have I learned
about fame? That half of these motherfuckers don't know what
they're doing. All the publicists, all the fake ass managers,
all the business managers, they all manipulate all of us

(30:29):
into thinking that they have all the answers when we
ourselves have the answers as the entertainers or the socialites
or the famous people. We got here because of us.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Before a manager, before a publicist.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yes, yes, and some people just have that it factor,
you know. But it's funny because very early on, you
get the publicists, you get the ship manager, and they
tell you like, oh, you know, you want to make money. Now,
you gotta twork, you gotta sell sex on the podcast,
you gotta just say that you girls and guys, and

(31:09):
so you eventually start to lose yourself in this fake
entertainment world because they're intimidating you every day that you're
gonna lose it all if you do not do what
they tell you to do instead of standing ten toes down.
But that intimidation changes you as a person.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's fame a drug because I believe something. I believe
it is. I believe it's suffocating. I believe it can
be intoxicated and people once and once you become hooked
on it, you'll do anything to keep it.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Maybe for some people, not for me. I don't give
it about being famous.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
You famous, now famous?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
You cannot be famous, No, you can't be on famous.
But yeah I don't. I mean I don't actively do things.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
To you know, to be in the publics. Just like
look at the Amber Road, look at what you're doing,
look at what you's wing.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Really quiet? Yeah, like I'm really quiet with my So.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, money, what have you learned about money?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Lord?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Just save save? Say say I remember I spent my
first million and I gagged because I was like, what did.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
You spend it on?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Going to Miami Fountain, blue partying, bottles, outfits, clothes, shoes, dumb,
just a bunch of dumb. And then I was like,
then I got a business manager, Like you need to
pay taxes and I'm like what, So then I was
like in the hole. It was like very early in

(32:43):
my career. But I definitely never I didn't do that again.
I definitely did not do that again.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
What's been what's your what's your best and worst purchases?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
My best and worst purchases. You know, when I had
new money, I had like seven cars for no reason.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
What?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
And now I have two cars? So yeah, I just
I don't live the same way anymore. I'm more I
save now and I think about things before I buy them.
I'm definitely gonna take this dress back and like, I'm
gonna exchange it for another dress when I have another interview,

(33:29):
let us know so.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
We could make sure you take it back before we
are entered.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I put the little receipt in in my drawer next
to the bed. I'm taking this shit right back.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
It's Lord, have mercy. What's the number one thing that
you learned in entertainment business?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
No one genuinely likes you. They just use you for
They just use you for what they need you for. Really,
it's not real life.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
No, do you really believe that, Amber?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, I know that for a fact. Yeah, No, one
genuinely cares like it a transactional hunh Yeah, at your
lowest point that they don't give up. It's like, when
are you gonna get better so we can get you
to do what we want you to do?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wow? Yeah, let me ask you this, if you could
go back and do anything differently, what would you do.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Being famous?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, if you can go back and do anything of
your life, you go back. If I say, am, but
you know what, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to
go back. You can get the time machine and you
can go back, and you can do get a do over.
What would you do?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's such a hard question, Shannon. I would appreciate my
children as babies more because it flew by so fast.
And my Sebastian, he's gonna be twelve tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Wow, congrats that barely birthday.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, his birthday is tomorrow. And then my son is five,
and I was just like, you guys would just send
my belly like what happened?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I just so it makes me sad sometimes I wish
I I wish I understood that that first, second, and
third year was going to go by so fast.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
What do you learn about mixing business and friendship. I
don't do that, you never have, or you don't do
it anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, okay, I guess going back to your question, yes
I have, and it always turned bad and I always
had to kind of break up with them and be like,
I love you as a friend, so to not mess
up our friendship. We cannot work together?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Wow? Yeah, how did they take it?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Some better than others, But we remain friends after.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
It was friends stealing from you to steal jewelry, money
and even slept with your boyfriends. You have people you had?
Oh yeah, oh hello, on hold on time. I so
you got people.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I told you all the well my men after they
had me Shanon, It's weird. It's like kind of lesbian ish.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
So does that make you say, ain't they were never
your friend? If they were willing to do something like
this to you?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
You were never my friend. You never cared about me,
you never hear about me. You were this is what
you always wanted to do. And I truly believe that.
And I will never talk to these people ever again
in my life.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
How much money they steal from you? They were a
large summer money like five ten, two.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Hundred fifty thousand HM yep, and then fled to Jamaica
and you ain't.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Seen the sins. Nope. Did you want to get over
there and go to Jamaican and get them? You know?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I did, Lord have hold on.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Did you have a friend call Social service on you?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
That's a tough one. I mean someone did call Social
services on me. Yes, it was not my friend.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Though people be doing you wrong?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Huh twice twice on me. I mean I obviously got
cleared both times.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Did you know that person?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I knew them very well, so they were friends.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
They just tried to hurt me in a way where
I will never forgive them for that.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
You got to be able to forgive amber, because forgiveness
is not for them, it's for you who said that.
Because you're holding on to it, you can't be free.
They can never be free without They can never be
freedom without forgetting.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
They didn't think about them until you bring them up
or I see them on the streets. I don't think
about them. It's not like I'm sitting all day thinking
about this.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
No. No, but that's there's still there's still a little
bit of bondage that you're still in captivity with it.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's just how I'm built me over.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
I won't hate you forever.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
You're in School of Dance with Kat Williams, Mike Ems,
Tiffany HAIs, Pete Davis in a Little Duval Nick Cannon.
I was that experience.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
It was super fun. It was so much fun. You know,
it's crazy. I was pregnant with Sebastian on set and
I didn't even know it yet. Really yeah, because I
remember my son McCurtain and I was cramping and I'm like,
the hell is going on? And then I found out
I was I was pregnant.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Wow. Do you want to act more?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I do want to act more? Yeah, I think I
actually just had a meeting with an agent yesterday to
do more acting. It's pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I'm asking this, what type of mother is Ambarrose? So
when say you're an unbelievable mother, he spoke glowingly, he spoke.
I mean, I don't know if I've ever had somebody
on here speak so highly of wild ranch'all stay married.
He's like, we're better as friends, yes, but yeah, but
what type of mother are you?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I am an extremely hands on mother. I get up
every morning and take my children to school. I feed
them every morning. I picked them up from school, I
cook them dinner every day, and I take them to
their extra curricular activities. I do not have a nanny.
I've never had a nanny. Really, Nope. My kids wouldn't

(38:56):
even know what to do with a nanny. They'll be like,
where's my mama. They don't. They're only used to me.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
In a situation. I read somewhere they say, what you
craved as a child, you overcompensate as a parent.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Maybe, so that actually makes sense And I never thought
about that until you said that. That's maybe why I'm
that type of mother.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
What type of boys are you trying to raise? Because
you like you, You are definitely a mom. You're a
boy mom, Yes i am.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I'm also militant imitant.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yes, you're strict parent.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
You think Whizz is a strict parent, Like, okay, whatever
you want to do. But yeah, yeah, I'm the strict
parent for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
You feel you have to be that because the dads
are not.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, they're just pushovers. Yeah, both of my kids dads
are pushovers. I'm the disciplinary one for sure, so they
have to well, not so much Slash because he's five,
but Sebastian has to make his bad wash dishes. You know,
we have a housekeeper five days a week. But I said,

(40:07):
Victoria works for me, She don't work for you. You
need to clean this up? Wow, she cleans up for me.
She don't clean up for you. You don't have a job.
Clean all this up. Put this stuff in there, take
the trash out, and wash the dishes.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
So he needs to know that so when he gets
out on his own, he don't have to depend on
anyone to take care of him.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
What's the key to being a great co parent? Because,
like you said, you have two sons, two different dads,
and so obviously, like I said, I had Weizon and
he seems really really cool. But I'm sure your youngest
son's dad they probably have different personalities, and the way
you interact with one, you don't interact the way the
same way with the other. The other co parent, So

(40:49):
what's the key to co parenting?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
The key is to not worry about anything but your child. Okay,
once you talk about you got my son around that bit,
why he over here doing that? You took a picture
over here with None of that matters. If your baby
is safe and fed and happy and healthy, don't bother

(41:11):
nobody with that dumb ass shit. Just be a parent,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Should a woman try to live a lifestyle once the
guy's gone, that she lived with the guy if they
were to have a kid together. So let's just say,
for the sake of argument, you had the god was
worth five hundred million. Y'all not married. So what do
you think a respectable amount of monthly child support should be?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
It depends on how you want your child to live, right,
So it depends on the man. If you're not going
to see the child that much, right, if you're like
busy and the child is with the mom. More often
depends on how you want your child to live. You
can't spite the mom because I'm saying spite the child
because you at the mom. That's not cool. So it's

(42:03):
like that's she's not finna live off my money, blah
blah blah. But now you're spiting the child because now
the child don't have a backyard or a swing set
or amenities that you could bring with your money just
because you want to.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I mean, I don't know, and I don't really know
a whole lot of kids that need fifty thousand, hundred thousand,
one hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I love this a lot of money, that's very loud. Yeah, yes,
it's a lot of money. Yeah yeah. I mean, look,
I never took my baby daddy's to court.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
They just break you off, do it. They do what
dad should do.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Do you think sometimes women actually try to get pregnant
from men? Yes, that's a real thing. Yes, you've had
girlfriends say, oh, I'm trying to Hey, I'm trying to
have girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Lie about abortions to get money to get to act
like they're pregnant. Yes, it's disgusting. This is why I
stopped my slut walk by the way. Yeah, this is
why I'm no longer a feminist because I all the
dark side of what women can do. And I'm sitting
here feeling slighted by men, and then I'm fighting for equality,

(43:09):
and I'm like, the only.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Equality is that you either you are crazy, y'all are
really you guys are extorting men, lying about pregnancies, saying
you're on birth control when you're not to trap them,
you know, And I mean not to sound vulgar, but
if a man comes inside of you and you say

(43:31):
that you're on birth control.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
He trusts you. Stup that you would trap him like that.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
You don't do that to people, And that probably should
have been his first mistake that he trusted someone. Huh yeah,
I mean, could you teach me? After talking to you,
You're like, don't trust nobody?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, I don't. I don't trust nobody. I don't. I
really don't trust nobody.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
We as told me, like after you got the day
you got a divorce, you and him went to the
Script club. Yeah, y'all we can't be together, but come on, baby,
let's go to the spill club. Get some ways.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
That's my dog. That's my dog.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And he said, you know what, I wouldn't I wouldn't
get you know, I just give her the money, let
her do her thing. I was like, Whiz, think about
what you said. You said you and Amber y'all went
to court, y'all got a divorce. Come on, baby, let
go to this club.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
We just cool like that.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
He said it. He said, we're so much better as
friends than we were husband and wife.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Also, in our defense, Wiz was twenty three when he
proposed to me. I was like twenty six. We were
very immature. We were just getting money. Our families were
just like, what you got this money? He got that?
Our families up our marriage. Really gonna be honest.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
What happened? His mom didn't like you, Your mom didn't
like him.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I mean just everybody just couldn't mind business. And then
me and him start arguing because our family is intimidating
us and just making it hard where we could have
just been happy and peaceful. You know, it just wasn't.
It wasn't. If we would have gotten married later in life,

(45:13):
it would have been much easier because he really is
my best friend. They we're cool as hell. It was
just the wrong time.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Can you have done a better job of keeping them
my y'all? Damn business?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Oh yeah, but we when you're that young and you
got so much money coming in on both sides, and
then you got a brand new baby and you got
the mama telling you, well, this is how y'all raised you.
And then my mom was like, well with this, and
then she's saying this and that, and then it's just like, well,
I'm like, well, you need to tell her to stop
saying this. And he's like, well, you need to get

(45:45):
your other side of the family, and it's just a
whole mess. It's a whole mess.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Are you partnering with Khalifa and Khalifa cush correct? Are
you partners?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I wish I was giving my five percents.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I've always I had had no idea. I mean when
we started started Club Shasha CJ my executive producer. Yeah,
I never thought a lot of people that I'm sitting
down with because the way we started is that I
just reached in my phone and I just reached out
to people that I had in my phone. So I
never had any idea. But I've always said, man, I
want to ask Amberroll, why do here you get a

(46:20):
tattooed on your full head? What does that even mean?
I wanted to you couldn't put it on your back,
your arm, your thigh.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I mean, Shannon, not to get dark, because this conversation
is very happy. I just never had a problem with
depression and anxiety. I always been a ball of sunshine.
And you know, I had a baby and the pandemic
hit and at all that happened, and then at the

(46:51):
same time I found out my baby daddy was cheating
on me. Our whole relationship, so it was a lot
of hard pills of swallow and also trying to be
a mother, and I had a six year old at
the time, and just California shut.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Down, California that the rest of the country didn't shut
down like California did. California shut down.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
The California shut down. You almost like just could not
leave your house, and everything was so scary in the news,
and my newborn baby and my mind me up. And
I got the tattoo because I felt like I just
needed to feel something. I just needed to look in
the mirror and see my kids. And I don't know,

(47:35):
I was just I was in a very dark place.
And I also I didn't I didn't want to feel beautiful.
I didn't want to feel pretty. I just kind of
wanted myself up a little bit. Damn if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
No, I mean at the time, I mean I'm listening
at you, and you're telling me what you're going through
and that you didn't want to feel pretty. And you
get a tattoo, and obviously it's where everybody's going to
be able to see it. Put it in a place,
and like I said, I ask you, and I don't
mean to be disrespectful or anything like that, So I apologize,
But so you had postpartum?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yes? Why have postpartum? Because my entire relationship was a lot,
a lot, you know, And I just was he seeing
share at the time?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Was that was the one he was?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
He was seeing everybody. I don't think he was seeing Share,
but he was definitely seeing everybody.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
How do you not know? You say you had intuition?

Speaker 2 (48:26):
How do you not know you you have cloudy judgment
when you're pregnant? Oh okay, But it's also like, how
you gonna cheat on me when I'm pregnant? You know,
I'm not feel to cheat back. At least play a
fair fight, cheat on me when I get my body back. No,
I don't do that. Okay, what am I going to
get your friends to make you mad? I'm not going

(48:46):
to do that. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I'm not you know, someone do that now?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I'm not that Why that's so dumb, That's so stupid. No,
not doing that. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
You have any more taxi? You got one of your
thumb It used to.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Say Cam because what's his name was? Cameron? Uh huh,
Well his name is Cameron. But I turned it into
pain because he broke my heart worse than anyone could
ever bring behind.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, because I was gonna say that, Yeah, you're not
gonna be able to have I don't know how guy's
gonna let you have somebody else's name on them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I turned it into pain.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah. So how many tattoos do you have? You have
seed the too in your forehead or see the thumb.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I'm fully sleeved.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Really yeah, what made How were you forgot your first tattoo?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I was young?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Did you always want tatts?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I wanted to be ball headed with shades and I
wanted to be tatted. Really yep, yep, this is all premeditated, Shannon,
This is all premeditated, And this is how I wanted
to look.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I see what Pete Davidson just had all his tattoos removed.
I think that's the cause out if it shortly sent
over two hundred thousand dollars to have those tattoos. Would
you ever think about having your tattoos removed?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
No, it's just too painful. Really, I ain't doing that.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
The removal is painful. Huh.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
The removal is more painful than the actually really yeah,
oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
You know what it is? Because I had my daughter. Uh,
she got a tattoo without my permission and that ended
up having to take hers she got it yeh shet Yeah,
oh she was screaming. I don't know. I don't know
what to tell you because but you can actually hear.
You can smell the skin burning.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, I'll tell her that every week. Got it up listen. Yeah,
she talked about she wanted to be reread.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
How old you?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, she had had headed down on arm. I mean
had just like Rihanna.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Oh yeah, she wouldn't be rereached.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Funny I said, read, don't pay no bills up here.
I love you reread, but that had to come up
off there.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Wait, how old you? You only have a daughter.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I have two daughters and my son.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
How old are they?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Thirty two and thirty one? How old are you share
that I'll be fifty seven. Continue, give me a little trend.
You WoT to give a little dread? Jordan, I feel
like that k doc swimming pools, pour up, drink, headshot drink.

(50:57):
They're not like us. Jordan did not like us. Y'all
that right down. Serve your procedures breast reduction, lightful suctions,
say like pegs bodox fillers face typed why you need
to do all that?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
What you mean why not?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
No, I'm saying this is your body. I'll never tell you.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I look the same. Yeah, but I'm just not aging.
So what women do is they go and get these
procedures done where they look different. They look like a
different person. I don't want to look like a different person.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I just want to a younger version on yourself. You said,
what you want to look like a younger version of yourself?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah? Yeah, I just want to stay youthful.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
You do realize the objective is that once you it's
the age because a lot of people have an appointment
that they can't reschedule. What do you mean appointment that
you can't reschedule? It's called death? Oh I mean, don't you?
I mean, so how long? So you want to be
you want to be sixty looking like this?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I will be sixty looking like this.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Oh Lord, that mercy. It's okay, it's.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Okay, it's fine, it's fine. It is definitely okay.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
So all those procedures, I mean, you're like, man, that's.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Really not a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
It's up keep.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
It's just it's just maintenance. It's that's not a lot
of trust me. I know girls they get a lot.
I know guys that get their bodies done. What kind
of body what they had six packs? They get all that. Yeah,
come on and it cuts in there. So what they
do is they light boat suction around the muscle and
it makes it cut like stick out.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, guys doing that now, Yes, they won't. Well, some
is genetics. Some is genetics. And if you want the
extra cuts, sometimes you need a little help. You go
to doctor Matt Locke.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Uh your angela Black China fondly noms black China. She
got a breast and plants butt injection. She got all
that stuff removed.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, yeah, good for her. Yes, she's happy. She seems
very happy.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
She does seem very happy. Did you have a conversation
with her, I mean she's sold talk all the time.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yes, yeah, but you know we're just in different We
have different lifestyles, me and China. But that's my sister forever.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Why do you think women are regretting some of the
decisions that they made when they were younger. Sisa said
she regrets getting her BBL as well. Why do you
think women are starting to have those regrets ever.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Well, I think it's because it's it's a style at
the time, right to have just a big, old fat ass,
and then you realize, you well, you go to the
gym and you can't really run on the treadmill because
your ass is heavy as hell, and then you want
to go get it taken out, you know. So I
mean I've done it. I got my butt done, and

(53:53):
then I got everything taken out, right, So I got
my butt done when it was in style, big stupid
fat ass, and now I got it taken out?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Is it hard for women to get to age gracefully?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I'm I'm happy with aging. I just feel like, if
you know, if I can get some boatoks or some
you know, I really don't do much. What do I get?
Do I get, like maybe a little filler right here
and some boatos on my face? You think you can
get some bowtok, I'm gonna take you some boatos. You
need a little bit right here. You got a couple,
We're gonna get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
But I'm about to be fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
But it's okay. It's just it's fine. You get a
little botox and then it just smooths it out. I'm
gonna go do it for free.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
It's fine, Oh Lord, have mercy. But but why is it?
It seems to be a double stand that men men
can age gracefully. Yeah, oh you look so good. We
love the salt and pepper, blah blah blah, but women.
Because it's like men, men can get to age like
be fifty five, sixty, seventy and still appeal to like

(55:01):
the high twenties, thirties, year old, thirty young forties, women
not so much have now some like you and your situation.
You being who you are a You're gonna always be
able to appeal to basically from nineteen to your age,
even nineteen.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Be honest, it's not easy. I do go to the
gym five days a week, you know what I'm saying.
I do drink a lot of water. I don't drink
alcohol like that maybe a special occasion some.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
There. Do you watch what you eat?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I eat in moderation, okay? So I am. I am
from Philly, So I do like my cheese steaks and
my fork sandwiches and stuff like that. But instead of
eating a whole one, I'll eat a half one, or
instead of having fries with it, I won't have no fries.
I'll just drink of water versus a root beer because
I love root beer. But yeah, I just mix it up,

(55:53):
mix and match it.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Have you ever been body shamed? Do women bodies? Do
people body shait? Not just say women, but do you
get body shamed?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I did, especially like after I had my kids and
I was still fat, you know, but I didn't give
I didn't think about it. Twice. I was just like,
I'm fluffy because my kids have to lay on me
and breast me, and I don't care. I'll go to
the gym and I'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Why are women so hard on each other on social media?
Is it really like this in real life? Or women
really this hard on each other and normally forget social
media take that out. Have women always been this hard
on each other? Have y'all always been your toughest critics?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know
this is kind of like frowned upon, but like I
usually hang out with guys, I don't hang out with
girls like that. And the girls that I do hang
out with, they're very confident. If you're insecure around me,
it kids are like me, you're mixed, and I said, no,
I'm not. You're a Puerto Rican. Both of your parents

(56:56):
are Puerto Rican. Generationally, down the line, the blacks and
whites mixed and then you became Puerto Rican. I understand
the history, right. The difference between me and you is
that I have a white parent and I have a
black parent. It's a whole different culture. As sist, you
don't know what you're talking about, so stop telling me
who I am. And then she was like, you know

(57:16):
what your problem is. You just want to be white.
And I said, okay, So I just get up and
I'm quiet, and I gotta walk past her desk to
get out the classroom, and she went like this, and
I was like what And I hit her with like

(57:37):
a six This is like a six piece, y'all. She
has a history of violence. What am I gonna do?
You're gonna bully me and then beat me up? Are
you done? I'm never gonna let you do that to me.
I'm gonna get off first and now. And my both
my mom and dad was like, that's right, that's what
you do. And my dad was like, you always get

(57:59):
the first, always. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
How difficult was it going up by racial in the
nineties in South Philly.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
It was interesting for sure.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Well maybe actually like what late eighties.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
It was the nineties. It was the nineties. Yeah, for
sure the nineties, and like I started first grade in
ninety one, okay, So it was definitely interesting because it's
like the Italian and Irish out there, so they're like
a different kind of racist sometimes. But I would like
have before I really even thought about race, I would

(58:34):
have a crush on like an Italian boy or an
Irish boy, and then they would like see my mom
and they would be like, you know, call me like
the hard r and I'm like, it's kind of crazy,
like you know, and then and then or they would
see my mom and they'd be like, damn, I just
I had no idea, or I thought you were white, right,

(58:55):
or well if your dad's white, then you're white, but
if your mom's black, then you're black. And it was
always like I had to just pick a side all
the time. So I think that was one of my
frustrations with Johnslyn, like I'm at the time, thirty nine
years old, are we really doing this? Like are you
that stupid that we really have to go I have

(59:16):
to go through this at thirty nine years old. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Wow. Yeah, do you hate that you felt like you
needed to pick a side that I needed I got.
Why can't I just love both of my parents? The
one is black, one is white. Why can't I embrace?
Why do I have to choose a side? Why do
I got to choose the Caucasian side of my family?
Why do I have to choose the black side of
my family? Why can't I just embrace and be an

(59:40):
embodiment of it all?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
That's my whole point. I always felt like that my
whole life.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
But you felt that each side wanted you to choose,
not my people.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
People on the outside of my family.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Okay, I'm gonna say you're outside forces wanted you to
choose you black, Say I'm black. Black power right on.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
But it's like the one drop rule comes from white supremacy.
It comes from Jim crow eraror where white enslavers would
rape black slaved women and had their they would have
their kids, and they'd be like, oh, one drop, you're
still slave. You know, it comes from white supremacy. There
is no reason why I have to feel bad that

(01:00:18):
I have a white dad and white family members. That
I love and I have to just say I'm black
because the one drop rule is insane, right, And I
love that I have my white uncles that introduced me
to Pantera and Metallica and System of a Down and
Leonard skinnerd and all these all that that's a part

(01:00:41):
of my culture because of my white uncles. And then
my mom's side is you know, the Anita Baker, Luther
Vandros four Tops, Temptations, Teddy Pandagra. That is who I am.
So somebody like Jocelyn bitch, You're not gonna just tell
me who I am.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Let me ask you a question. Why do you think
Drake Drake receives so much hate? Do you think it's
because he's bibracial?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, and he embraces his Jewish side so much that
it pisses people off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
What do you think of the people that are profited
off for being in black spaces? You got a problem
with that? Are you okay with that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
That confuses me. I'm gonna tell you why, because you
cannot blame you have to blame the consumer at that point. Right,
So when people are like Amber, You're famous for no reason,
it's like maybe, but you have to blame the consumer.
You can't blame me, blame the people that buy into
what I'm selling. Right, Yes, So if somebody like Drake

(01:01:45):
or me is within black culture and we're biracial, why
are you mad at us? We love y'all, you know,
and we love white people too. And there's black people
that aren't good, and there's white people that aren't good.
There's bad people in every race, and there's good people
in every race. So you don't talk about people as
a monolith. That's unfair, you know what I'm saying. So

(01:02:07):
to benefit off of black culture is crazy. I hate
when I see that, right because it's like you're not
actively going into too. You're like, like me, I'm bi racial,
like me, I'm Drake's is making rap music and it's
really good. So people like it, like they buy it
by it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Tyler caught a lot of backlash when she identified herself
as black and a colored woman. She's being obviously she's
South Africa. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
People are called color in South Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Colored.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
There's a different culture over there. People in the US.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
They used to call you that. You call you that
and fel doing you know, Yeah, filvil rising and the film. Yeah,
and you know, pre eighteen sixties, definitely they were called colored.
They call you negro.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
But it has a negative conversation here in America because
of American history. It's not the same as South Africa.
So when she says that people are up in arms,
but it doesn't mean the same thing over here that
it does over there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
You've been participating in Travis Scott's annual HBCU Celebrity Classic.
What's your relationship with Tramp? You're cool, y'all. Obviously you're
cool because you go damn there every year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah, he's just I don't know, it's just super cool.
He invited me one year, which is crazy because I
don't talk to Travis Scott until the game is coming up,
like in February, and I'm like, yo, bro, like what
are we doing this year? Like how many outfits should
I bring? Is like after after party, and then I
won't I probably won't talk to him till next February.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Amber, I don't know. I was debating. You caught a
lot of flat because you supported President Trump, your pilog
using and say, look, I like talking religion, I like
talking politics. Yeah, I ain't got no problem with it.
And people like, we're going to cancel Amber Rolls because
she wearing the red hat make America great again? What

(01:04:03):
went into your and Wiz said, you know, talking to Wiz,
he says, look, if that's what you believe, do you,
why are you worried about what everybody else thinking? Do you?
What made you decide to say, you know what? This
to who I believe is the best candidate, This to
who I believe, this is, who embodies basically what I
believe in, This, who I'm supporting. What went into your
thought process? You knew that you was gonna catch some criticism,

(01:04:26):
You're gonna catch some blowback and flat, but you did
it anyway. What went into that decision?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
I just felt like he was the best for our country?
And why not use my platform to say that? First
and foremost. Second of all, no one can ever cancel me.
Only I can cancel me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Right? Is there anything you want to promote? You got
anything coming out? You got a book, you got cosmetics
or anything you want to promote?

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yes, So I would like to announce that me and
Ray J are coming out with a new show. Okay,
and we are talking about everything sports, politics, entertainment. It's
me and him. We're gonna go nuts. I can't wait
for you guys to see it, and also follow me
on Only Fans. Subscribe to my Only Fans merch my merch.

(01:05:15):
If you just go to the link in my bio
at amber Rose on Instagram, you can get all the
links there. But my Only Fans is just my day
to day life and stuff that I don't post on Instagram.
So it's really it's really cool over.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you so much.

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