Club Shay Shay - Andrew Schulz Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
You didn't go through it with football, not like this
because it's hard. Football is hard, boxing because the UFC hard.
You're earning that money, Yeah, you're putting your life on
the one.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
It was like, first of all, I'm not gonna be
six to two. I'm not gonna be two thirty. I'm
not gonna be able to take those hits. I'm not
gonna be able to do this. But they're like, man,
I can get a camera and get a buddy mine
and I can do that.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
There we go, There we go. I promise you the
harder this. Nobody's upset at Floyd's money, Yeah, because you
don't want to get in there with the dudes. He
got in there, right, you know, nobody's upset at Marvin
Hagler making money.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It was earned. You're independent, yeah much, But what do
you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Because you had you had a special somewhere you brought
it back yeah yeah, and says okay, I'm gonna put
it on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah what made you do that? They were just they
didn't want to do a couple of the jokes.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
And you're like, nah, I ain't taking no jokes. Out.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I didn't want to take any of the jokes out.
How do you feel it with Dilute the Special?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, And also just like principle, I was like, you know,
you don't want to start this yeah, yeah, I just
felt like and then uh so, yeah, I was able
to put it out and the people really supported it.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
And it was awesome. Twenty million views on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Got twenty million views on YouTube. We also sold it
and that was great and like that just.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It was it was just money on the top of
money hunt. It was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, people got upset in me for that, for putting
it out on for selling it and then putting it
out on YouTube later.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Bro, this is the thing. People will create narratives of anything.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm like, every movie I ever watched, I saw it
in a movie theater and then it.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Was available on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, every UFC fight ever watched, I saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
And guess what Netflix for Amazon, So every movie that's
been in the theater.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Like so in my mind, I'm like, I'm just doing
the exact same thing that those big billion dollar corporations do.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
You're not mad at that, but no, but movie theater,
hotel room. Then it goes like Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So but this is the thing that's like now, the
majority of people very supportive, but there were people frustrated
about that. And I even told them that I was
going to put it on YouTube, by the way, but
it is, it is what it is. These are the
things you just gotta you gotta deal with.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Have there been a situation where venues have canceled you?
I did get it. I did.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, a few times. That happened really the place where
I was going to film my special, and I don't yeah,
like we we had to change it. I think that
they were maybe potentially frustrated about the Trump interview.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
And then but also I also don't want to, like,
I don't want to punish venues.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's the like board, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like a venue is just a beautiful space, correct, and
the board makes the decisions for that venue. So if
the board changes, that venue can prosper and just be awesome.
And I just don't want to put a stain on
a specific venue. But rather like maybe the people making decisions, yeah,
and they're you know, they just made a bad decision.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
You know. Was it expensive for you to buy your special? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
what have you.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Learned about ownership? Because everybody's like, I want to own,
I want to run a business. But do people realize,
realize and understand how.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Much owners is expensive?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Bro Like, I mean, you own an apartment, goes wrong,
you gotta fix it. You know, when you're renting and
you just get to call some guy broke.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You even go you're disa washing Brooke is broken, you
should go and fix it.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
So it's like, yeah, there there are but here we are,
you know, complaining about privilege. What do they call this
Champagne problems or something, But they're there. It is there,
it is, but it is. There are different casts with it.
But I will take that any day, just being having
control of it. That's what you think about, Like you
and your life, Like how much more liberating is it

(03:52):
doing what you do now versus when you were only
working for the networks.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yes, I was talent, that's it.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now I'm in partnership with these sponsors and advertisers and
things of that nature.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
We're partners. You're probably making so much more money too.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I do Okay, No, I know you doing ok No,
you know I ain't got no you know I ain't
got no comedy special. But you know I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah yeah. Should we trade banks? Should we trade bank
bank accounts? Right now?

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, I would like to trade with you because
you're doing real way.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You got more money than me.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Man, Hey, yeah that Netflix money hit different because I
know I heard what they paid Rock in Chapel.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, you get that bag.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
They don't pay the white guys that much. May go
ahead over there, you know it's a reparations. Then no
shout out Netflix, man, you know, sporting white comedians.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
When you made when you got money, when you got
real money, What was the first thing you buy?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You buy? You buy anything extravagant, like first stupid thing? Yeah,
I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I got into watches for a second. Yeah, and then
I got away from I got away from the watches.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
What you what you get? Do you know off catalog pieces? Yeah?
Do you know a Vacheron Constant?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah? I got the Too too too. That's a that's
a tough piece to get. Yeah, yeah, there's like yeah,
yeah that was my like holy grail. No, I got
a few like I got the a P I got
a Daytona. You know, I got like the beautiful watches. Man,
beautiful watches, but I don't have any of those. I think,

(05:30):
if I'll be honest with you, I think like I
got them because it was like me proving to myself
and other people that I had a level of success. Right,
And then I think once I got used to that,
like once I accepted that I had some Yeah, I
didn't feel the need to do it, or I did

(05:54):
different like I buy something else. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
my focus is like what would be more cool to
me is just having enough money that I never have
to work again. So anything I do is purely authentically what.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I want to create. Right.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
But I also got a daughter, and then hopefully we'll
be able to expand our family. And like, you know,
you have kids that shit gets it. They want to
you know, it's expensive having.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, it's I mean to like not work. I'm a
long way from that. But I give myself five years.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You could not work in like you're just lifestyle would change, yeah,
but you I imagine, Yeah, I don't want to count
your pockets, but I know you've got enough money not work.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You just got to live differently.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, Yeah, but I gave myself five years, and I
told her Tam. I said, look, save your pennies because
I got five. I ain't promise you anything after that.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I can't imagine you not working. I know everybody says that.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But think about it. You've been before we start. You
were telling me that you were going to school full
time as a kid, and then you were wrangling chickens.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Kitchen chickens. Yeah, Claxton chicken potry.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Shout out the claxon chicken porch, and you were doing
that for You said it was six hours, so that's
after school.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
No, we go, we go school if we had practice football,
you know, we had football practice. Then we come home
do homework. My uncle would pick us up in the
chicken truck. We'd get up probably about nine. We probably
have to go thirty minutes to forty five minutes away,
get there about nine thirty. We catch anywhere between eight
and twelve thousand chickens. It takes us about three three

(07:26):
hours and a half hours to get that. We get
home around midnight, one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Wash off. Because we didn't have indoor plumbing, we'd take up.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah I read that. I read you didn't take a
shower until you were fifteen.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, I went to four h camp.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But I didn't take a shower in a home until
I was twenty. My brother got us a home when
he went pro So that was the first time I
actually took a shower in a home.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
What was that? Like?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
You beat off man? I was like man for the
longest time. You know, we bathed in tubs. You know,
we had to draw whale water.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Wow, So you're going to get the water in buckets,
putting it in the tub and then heating it.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well, we'd heat a lot of times, like in the summertime.
We would feel feel the tub a tin tub.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh, so you filled outside and heat it up. So
we come home from work, we take a shot tub.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, and you're sharing that tin tub.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah. So the last person that goes in it's well,
it was just me and my brother washing the tin tub. Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean it's just such a remarkable, like the delta,
what you've been able to achieve in your life. Yeah,
from not having like plumbing or indoor like a shower,
to where you are right now. Holy do you ever
think about that? I knew I have like a is
there is there? Like do you feel entitled to your success?

(08:53):
Do you have the confidence to feel like entitled to
it or do you feel guilt about it?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Ever, I had to learn I had to stop feeling
guilty because I started to beat myself up, like what
because I had accomplished so much and everybody else that
was around me didn't, And so I I wouldn't buy
certain things, I wouldn't dress a certain way because I
didn't want people to look at me. But then I

(09:17):
started realizing they gonna feel that the way no matter what.
Why should I deny myself? How is that gonna make
you feel better about yourself? Because I'm denying myself because
you look at me and you're like, he got money,
he can afford that.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
So I was just doing and I was like, man,
I'm done with that. I want it.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I'm gonna get it if I don't. Yeah, I dressing? Man,
you got all that money? You dressing a little?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And what age is this that you start to change
your mentality post football?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah? Got it? Yeah? Because I was looking like, man,
you tell me parton?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Was I felt bad? I felt bad because I'm like, man,
I got this. Some Lord has blessed me so much,
not just monetarily, but my family. Or if you heard
that the lord right, Yeah, we got him back, got
him back. He's back, boys, we got him Okay. Yeah,
And I was like, man, but shows I ain't gonna

(10:15):
lie just like man. One day I just woke up
and said, man, look, I'm gonna do what I want
to do. If I want to go spend egg for this,
I'm gonna spend that for that.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't. I don't spend. Was there a cat there's
no catalyst, It was just your frustration.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, because because then, yes, because I was living for
other people. Man, I can't I can't buy this because
people gonna they can't get it. So I'm gonna feel
they gonna they're gonna look down and feel like like
I'm looking down on them, and then I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And now and now it's almost like you're you're you're
like turning your nose up at your blessing, you know
what I mean, Like you've been.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Blessed with all this.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I've been blessed, and you don't have to live a
life like people. When you buy something for you, it's
not somebody else. And if they're gonna have those feelings,
they can have those those feelings, but you should be able.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
To Yeah, but but but I do get I don't
really buy a whole lot of stuff from me. I
do give back a lot I am you know, uh
my financial people like it.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Bro. It's okay, you can keep some for you you
don't have, but it feels good to give back.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
It does, It really does. And I've always wanted I
seld people. I just don't want people to know that
I give back, so I don't. I don't do anything.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Publicly that's interesting. Yeah, like, yeah, good for you? All right? Yeah,
how was it roasting Tom Brady? That was pretty awesome?
That might have been one of the best roads.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
That was the old school roast when what was the
guy like when they had Carabournet and all on Don.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Rickles back then with stereotype Don Martin. Look, excuse Martin,
There's no way they could do they could do shows
like that anymore. Ain't no way they did. We did it. Yeah,
but it was no hose bar. There was nothing.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
But I'm saying that's what I don't think that's that's
coming back anytime because you go back into seventies, Bro,
it was crazy. If you look at some of the sitcoms,
they said the N word they said a lot.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah as well.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, but I think with the Rose, I think everybody
we also. I think the pendulum has swung. I think
culture is like moving away from sensitivity, and this happens
like it moves away and then it goes too far
this way and then you need to correct and this
is just you know, culture in America, in the world.
But that night was that weekend was crazy, really so
Brady Rose was Sunday. I did my shows at MSG

(12:32):
Friday and Saturday. So my whole life, I had one
dream in comedy, which was the headline Madison Square Garden.
I was born and raised in New York City. So
I have Friday and Saturday at Madison Square Garden, which
we don't even know if we're going to get the
shows canceled because the nixt playoff run so literally so
many things had to happen in the basketball playoffs for
even to maintain those shows. And then we go Friday, Saturday,

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and then I fly out Sunday to do the roast.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
They flew us out. Netflix did the right thing. They
did the right thing. You fly private too, don't you know,
it's too expensive. I'm not there.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's like the next level. Yeah, I have listened, I
have done it. But when you when you do it,
you know this point anybody. But what I like doing,
to be honest with I really like is like I
don't come from crazy money. So when I get to
do money, I love explaining it to people who also
don't have money, right, because I like to put them
on game on all that, you know, I get to
learn about for the first time, Right, the jump from

(13:29):
first class to private.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh it's ten x. Yeah, it's ten x.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
So if it's PJ compared the first class and you
in the last row by the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
More bro, it's but it's so convenient. It is you
pull right up when you wanted you want, Yeah, and
you got food. Hey, what would you like? It's amazing?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So what is But that's the thing. It's like to
fly private every single time? What do you need like
one hundred million dollars or something like that in the bank?
Like what what type of people fly private?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Especially as much as we travel? Yeah, because I mean
I'm traveling. I'm doing a couple of hundred thousand miles
a year.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Wow, So you're doing every week you're on a plane
damn near So Yeah, and and basically the math for
like private flight.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
You're probably looking at it. I mean, to fly full time.
You're probably looking at three to five million dollars to
fly as much. So me and good old Delta.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, Delta is about I don't even care if the
plane spends. Delta really is the best. You can't fly
anybody else.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Shout out Delta, give me my three sixty back. Yeah, hey,
let me ask you this man.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know, y'all, y'all have held no hose bar y'all,
y'all had no hose barred with Brady because y'all talked
about the man.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
What y'all had, They were killing the man. Even the
whist white ex wife. That divorce must have been bad
because he had no problem with those jokes. He was
just like, yo, let me.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
He's like, he was like, don't talk about my kids,
and we're like, your wife is cool, and he's like,
you know, yeah, when when keV was Thomas the greatest
for doing that, but when keV kept calling him the
karate man that she was killing me, I was killing
me and now she had a kid. Yeah, that was
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I don't think nothing. The name my ex wife. Yeah, married,
I have That would be tough. So you have three kids?
Three same woman? No, how many women? Three? Damn? Yeah?
You were getting after it was and then what happened?
You found out what condoms were? Yeah? It was who what? Boy?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
He Every time I hear a Shannon, I'm pregnant, I
was like, brute, But uh no, it would be tough.
It would be I think the thing is with Tom, yeah,
is that he's probably thinking and a lot of people

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are like, hold on, Tom Brady got all.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
This money, they need to do that. No, he's got
all this money and he still couldn't keep his ex happy.
Oh yeah, because they don't want money.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
So maybe she wanted time, Maybe she wanted to titch.
I don't know what she wants that. Tom seems to
be happy.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
He's moved on.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Clearly she's moved on. But I think in the back
of his mind, like this is probably was going on
right in front of my face.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know about that, but I imagine, yeah, I
don't know. I can't comment.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Like again, the only reason I would even talk about
her is because she's a public figure, Like.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I would would you make jokes about her? Now?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
But she's a public figure.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Like I don't talk about people's wives or families because
they didn't ask to be in this, right, you know
what I mean? Like I do so, but if your
wife is Kim Kardashian or your wife is a famous person,
you've asked to be part of entertainment. But just talking
about some randomizs, I don't care. But like, yeah, I
don't know relationships, and man it sucks, but they do. Also,
it's probably hard. I bet Tom anything now, it's probably

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hard being married to a guy.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
With like that. God is the end all be all
for him and that's probably what makes him so great.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I think Lebron even said recently it's like greatness
is sacrificing time as your family.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Mm hmm. There's a singular focus. Yeah, that's what I
don't want to do. And it's boring. It's very monotonous
to be great. You felt that, yes, and it is.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
It is the embracing of the monotony, which is the
difference maker between the really good player and the great.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I eat the same thing for twenty seventh straight years.
I owe me every day for twenty seventh straight years.
I eat the same thing. I eat pretty much at
the same time. I get up at the same time,
I do the exact same thing.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's why I find it hard to believe that you'll retire,
meaning just stop doing things right. It's like your superpower
is the ability.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
To get up and do right.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Like if you could refine it to the most simple thing,
you can get up and do the same thing, no
matter what is happening, for longer than ninety nine point
nine percent of people, probably despite how annoying it is. Yes,
like despite that, like emotional suffering, you'll just do it. Yeah,
And most people think I don't want to do it
all right, you eat on meal every day. I did

(18:04):
for twenty seven years from nineteen ninety three to twenty twenty.
I hate the same thing every day. I pretty much
get up at the same time every day. I do
the same thing every day.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
So if you stop this, you'll need to fill it
with something.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, I would, and it bothers me. I'm a very
meticulous individual. I like, like, you go in my panjua
and you look, all the labels are facing out. You
go in my refrigerator, all the label you like, ohc deal,
Yeah I am. Everything is hanging up in my closets,
hanged up, it's hanged up a certain way, long sleeve,
short sleeve colors.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Really yeah, And how is this helpful to you in
your life?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
I feel I feel like if if it's out of place,
my life is out of place.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
So the attention to detail applies also to I imagine
the podcast.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
I imagine it applies to Yes, everything, everything needs to work.
I'm not an easy person to work.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, that's I was about to say that.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
No, no, yeah, but I think the thing is my
team now they know me, They've been around me very
very long time, they know how I am. I'm a
very attention to detail guy. I want things to operate
a certain way, and if they don't operate that.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Way, I need to know why. What's an example of this? Like?
What is hate? I don't like don't tell me I
don't like being late.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's one of my biggest pet peeve, because you're telling
me if my time you said, my time isn't important.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Don't tell me what can't be done. Tell me like, Okay,
we're going to figure this thing out.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yes, I think that's a huge.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I think Dove and I were talking about this earlier actually,
but it's just like it's not even worth using our
brain to justify why things can't happen, right.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I don't want to use any brain power for that
at all. I just want to know why it can.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And even if in your heart you're going there's no
way this can to happen, I want you to tell
me a potential solution to make it happen. Because those
that type of like philosophy, that type of brain power
into executing a task, right, well, nine out of ten
times lead you further.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
You might not get to the destination, but you're going
to inch a little bit closer. Correct. Yeah, that's great. Okay,
what else this is?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
So that's what I told as I say, Jay, okay,
we're doing good. What can we do to make Club
Shaysha better? And I need that tomorrow. I love it,
So it's it's an improvement. Yes, he said, what about
if we did live entertainment before. So certain episodes we
have we had Teddy Swim's performed, We've had cast incredible, unbelievable,

(20:48):
we had Tie Tribute. So that's kind of the direction
that we going in because I want to turn this
thing into like a talk show field our citio hall.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Did you have to get the rights to his song
in all? Yeah, he signed off on it, and he
signed off on to put yeah. Well he sung it. Yeah.
But like you know, there's like yes, yes, yes, a
label and all these things yes, yes, yeah, wow, yeah,
he's his voice is Beautiful's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
So yes, we uh we grind. And I think the
thing is with us is that my team. They've been
around me for an extended period of time. They know
how I am. We're gonna work. You're gonna get paid
more than fair. But I expect when I call I
execut you to pick.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Up Yeah and dedication.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, unbelievable because they want We want the same thing.
We want to see Shay Sheha media. We want to
see it grow. Everybody. There's there's enough credit for everybody.
C J has his role, Ash has her role, Real
has her role, Jordan has his role. My executive assistant, Shelley,
she plays her part. Everybody has a role. There's an expectation.

(21:55):
If there's not, I demand it.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I'm never gonna ask any more than I'm willing to give.
If I say be here at a certain time. You
best believe I'm going to be there. I'm gonna give
you my best. I expect nothing but your best at return.
That's it, and we get along great.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
It's good leadership. But I think that's the only way
you can do things. You can never ask more than
you're willing to give, and if you do that, they'll
respect you. You got Tony, Can I see a real
quick question?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Sure? Was that an expectation that like Sterling set for you?
My grandfather was your grandfather? Yeah, got it.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
He didn't do it excuses, no excuses, none whatsoever, even
as a even as a young boy. But he was
always harder on my brother. And that's why I say
my brother was kind of like my father. And I
remember the day, and I told this before, is that
he was really hard on me one day and we
grew up on a farm and my grandmother asked him, say, Barney,

(22:57):
why you're so hard on that boy? And he said,
mayor when you live on a farm and you around
heavy equipment and you're around animals. I need him to
let I need him to know the utmost the importance
of this because I only get a chance. I might
only get a chance to tell him something once, Mary,
So I need him to know this is of the

(23:18):
utmost important because he could lose a limb, he can
lose his life. He getting there with them hogs and
they can kill him. And so I understood one time.
That's why, that's how I am. And and it's unfair.
It's unfair because everybody doesn't see things. It doesn't grasp
things like I do. And that was the hardest thing

(23:39):
for me. Shows is that to get people to see
things like I see them as soon as I see them.
But they say, with Sheldon, that's in your head, it's
not in hours.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You need to relay it to us. How can you
communicate to us in a way.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
That is the fact of you're not just hammering me,
You're you're helping me understand, helping me learn.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yes, yes, And that was that was the hardest thing,
because you know things that that I'm a visual learner.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Some people learn I need to see it. You tell me,
I don't tell me to play jord on the board. Okay,
I got it.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, everybody learns things differently, and so I had to
learn to be a great leader.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
You have to be willing. You have to be willing
to be led. Yeah, that's the only way you can
be a leader. CJ. Ash.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Everybody's job, real, everybody's job is to be my rear
view mirror is to protect my blind spots. What I
don't know, you should know. I only surround myself with
people like that. Don't tell me what I want to hear.
Tell me what I need to know. If I need
to know it, tell me even if I don't want
to hear it. They have my ear, they have my respect.

(24:44):
I'll listen to what they say. Cj wants this and
wants a particular guest. I might not agree with it.
I trust this judgment. I trust real judgment. She's a
chief for sales chaner. I think we ought to do
this deal. I think long term it might be great
for us.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I trust her.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Ash the same thing on that cap. Jordan wouldn't taking
photos like I think we ought to do it like this.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I trust him.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
If I can't trust you implicitly, If I can't trust
you implicitly.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's not there. We can't work together. Nope. Yeah, I
think that's really smart. It's healthy. Yeah, in order to lead,
you have to be willing to be led.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
You have to trust the people that are working with
you enough to put you in positions that you might
not be confident about, yet you're confident in them the situation.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, that's great, that's great. Uh Tony, how do you
say his name? Hinchclinn, Hitchclin, Yeah, shout out Tony Man.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
He got in trouble with the Puerto Rican droke. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
did you have did you have you talked to him?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Of course, I mean, Tony's the man. So Tony's got
like the biggest show. He created the show called Kill Tony,
and it's like the biggest I think it's the biggest
live podcast on the planet. But it's also like right now,
the biggest platform for putting on on new young comics.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
And it's like huge.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's like sprouted all these careers and it's this phenomenal
show called Kill Tony. And but yeah, he was at
that MSG rally for Trump and then he said that joke,
and so I actually heard him talk about it since then,
and he was saying he was referencing, like I actually
understand the joke a little bit more now. When I
first heard it, I was like, oh, I go, oh, Tony,

(26:24):
this is a perfect example. I go, oh, Tony doesn't
know how we feel about Puerto Rico. So in New York,
Puerto Rico is like our first exotic trip. If you're
a New Yorker, you don't come from like crazy money
your first trip, you're not really out of the country.
You're in the country, right, but you go.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
To Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I remember the first time going to Puerto Rico and
I'm seeing allo plants, I'm getting the sunburn, I'm breaking
off the leaf and rubbing on myself. I'm like, oh
my god, this is incredible. So there's this like really
endearing quality to us. Like also New Yorker's we love
Puerto Ricans. Yes, there's a thing about New Yorker's Like
everybody plays a role here, you know, like each group

(27:03):
with everybody. Yes, Chinatown fire, right, you know you had
to get your PlayStation hacked so you could put the
fake DVDs. We're in Chinatown in a mall underground, like
your boy had to connect. Like everybody has their role
and we all kind of work and there's this beautiful
symbiotic relationship. Everybody's aware of everybody else, right, That's why

(27:23):
it's the greatest city in the world in my opinion,
because the talents of each group gets to flourish and
we all appreciate them and interact together. And it's so
small we have to la is spread out, you know
what I mean. The Persians can live over here, meaning
it's can live over here, like everybody can be spread
out New York. We don't have that luxury we're in
the So I think that what my first interaction was, Oh,

(27:45):
he doesn't know that we see Puerto Rico as this
like beautiful exotic island. Right then I heard him talking
about He's like, no, this is an old joke that
I had. And there was like a floating like trash
thing in the ocean, which was like a big deal
that they were trying to figure out like the clean
up right to do. Yeah, so he was actually referencing

(28:06):
like an actual climate issue with like recycling. But still
I think that if he was like in New York
and working it out at clubs, he'd be like, Oh,
they're not going to get this, let me change this
for something else. I don't think he like has a
personal vendetta for Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
You see what thing.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, maybe to our conversation earlier, Like it's a placeholder
that works inside the joke, right, it's not like, oh,
this is how I secretly feel about Puerto Ricans.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I'm going to get it out now, not at all.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Let me ask you a question. If you were to
host the White House Correspondence dinner.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I would do that, you would That's something I would do?
I would, I think, and I think I could do it.
I think I could do it the best. Really, yeah,
I think I could do it. Do you think you
think he can invite you to do it?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, it's not up to him, but it's and I
think there. I think her name is Amber Ruffman. I
think she's going to do it this year, but like,
I think I could do it because I think I
make fun of everybody. I think the concern about that
dinner is that usually it's just a pundit that's like
only left wing right or like yeah, and then the

(29:07):
jokes just go in one direction. And I like the idea,
like the concept, Yo, how beautiful is it? Like this
is why America is amazing. The leader of the free world,
the leader of our country, submits themselves for public humiliation
once a year, Like what a beautiful like this is
how you know that we don't want tyranny. The king

(29:29):
would never step down to be made fun of in
front of the whole world or in front of the
whole country. But this idea that our fearless leader, the
one that should control everything, gets to get humbled in
front of everybody, It's beautiful. It's like why comedy is
so important to me, like so important to the American identity.
It's this great tool to let you know, Hey, you're regular.

(29:49):
Tom Brady is the goat, and we got to make
fun of him like he's some regular guy up but
he's you know what I mean, And like you look.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
At somebody who's willing to submit themselves to that. Yeah,
you go, how who was that?

Speaker 5 (30:00):
How?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
How how much humility does he have to even do this?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
He could be so much better than me on a
private island or do whatever, but instead he's like, yeah,
make fun of me and make fun of my life.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
So I love that conceptual and I love that like
as part of the America, he.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Did a pretty penny, So I'll let y'all cut me
up two foot. Well you might be there, It might
be you soon what about Tiger Woods.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I think that's who should be next to the gun.
Oh yeah, I mean the amount of jokes like, oh yeah,
you would, right you you? Oh my god, oh my god.
I just I'm already smiling. What we can say? Tiger?
You got a joke already lined up for it, And
I'm trying to think, like what is it?

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Like?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Uh uh fuck, I don't know what is the thing
that Tiger?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know, you know, Tiger's half black, but every time
he gets in a car, he tries to prove how
Asian he is.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Man, don't do it. Tiger, don't do it. Tiger, don't
do it. Tiger stereotypes are fun. Tiger, don't do it.
They will tell you I'm Tiger. No, Tiger would be
great obviously Jordan, but I don't think Jordan would. Oh
he would do it. Have you met him, Jay?

Speaker 5 (31:15):
I have?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
And what was your interaction with him? Like he's mythical? Yeah, yeah,
he is mythical.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I've never met and I met some very very famous people.
I've never met anybody like Michael Jordan. He doesn't even
seem real.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
What is it? When are you nervous? When he's like
he's elevating, He's like, he's glowing.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Are the Last Dragon with Bruce lee Ward when he
had that bag, He's glowing that he doesn't seem real.
I mean the first time that I saw him and
I'm looking at I'm looking at him, and he's probably
looking at me, thinking like this dude, weird fan sterning
sharp little brother, weirdest hate. I'm just looking at him.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm like, and he's levitating that man beat We're not
on that floor in the elevator, Jordan. And every time
I see him, oh, you went in an elevator with him?
Think this out.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
As a matter of fact, I got on the elevator
and he and his first wife Janita was already on it.
And I always was like, man, I like if I'm
ye fusing, I love it. And you know, I always
introduced myself. Hellong shallon sh I'll.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Be like, I know you are brother. Wow. Okay, So
he obviously he's aware of you, but it's nice to know.
I love you, know, love your your brother, you and
your brother man of love. What you'all guys do. Keep
it up.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
And then every time I've seen him since, I get
the same reaction. It's like I'm seeing him for the
first time and he's levitating. Yeah, but he ain't gonna
do that.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
No, no, no, no no. What about acting? You in
the remake? Right white Man can't jump?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Something in there? Is that something you would like to
do full time? It's kind of boring acting. I'd like
to like, I'd like to make it too, sitting around it.
It's sitting around, bro, you've done it. You just sit
around off that And I.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Mean doing commercials And I can imagine doing a two
hour movie because you're on the thirty second commercial and
you're there twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
For you people. I was there for a week.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I think I did like one day of acting and
I just sat in a trailer for the rest of
the week. And it's says like, yeah, I got other
shit I can do here, you know what I mean.
I'm not like an actor. I get that they don't
do anything. They sit around all day, but like, we
got to do. But I would like to make a movie.
I'd like to make a movie, yeah, because I think
that like writing, it is fun. And then also when
you write it and you create it, watching the other

(33:22):
people do their lock is really exciting because you're watching
this come to life, right, So to me, like, storytelling
is just it's the earliest form of digesting information. It's
like you come into a room and you go, yo,
I got a story.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
The whole room.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Stops talking, right, Like, it's really amazing how humans are, right,
Like I imagine even in the locker room, I imagine
the person that could hold court was the person that
could really command that attention, tell those stories.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
And yeah, yeah, to me, I would love to. I
think doing a film. A film is the most profound
version of that is the true. Jonahill and Laura London
had a fake CG. Yeah, why don't you do real life?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Sej ain't looking through the headlines?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Why didn't you do the real pace? I don't know.
I don't know. But I was watching it with doub
It was so funny. I was watching it with Dove.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
We're watching this house and uh and I looked at
the last scene and I was like, oh, because I
remember them.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
This became some big story and like the network got
upset at me, and I was like, what are you
upset at me for?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
This is an international news story, right, you should pay me, right?
I just promoted the out of the movie it's.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Us people going to watch to see if just to
see the kids.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And it's not like they got to go to the
movie theater. They just got to turn on Netflix, right,
So yeah, I was like, you should be very grateful,
That's what I thought. But yeah, whatever, she got her reasons.
I don't know why everybody was so upset about it.
It's like, yo, if a girl doesn't want to do
a kiss, Like, why can't.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
She do a kiss?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Why are people so upset about that? Like shouldn't shouldn't
you be like pro women feeling comfortable. That's what I
was like, I'm pro women feeling comfortable. And then all
these people are like, the better kiss. It's like once
you relax, yeah, just let her do what she wants. Yeah,
some of us care about black women.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah we do. Some of us do. Hey, we in
the movie. Some of us do. You won't get in
an elevator with them?

Speaker 3 (35:06):
No, I will get an elevator with any single woman,
regardless of race. Is there anything that you wouldn't do
in a movie?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
What I do is sexy and my wife doesn't want
me to, but yeah, I'll be up in that. No, no, no, Yeah,
I don't know what I'm not gonna get my cheeks clapped.
Actually I did do a gay scene in a movie
you did, but I wasn't in it.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
It wasn't. Were you in a dress? No? No, no no?
Would you wear a dress? Yeah? I don't know why,
Like that's a big deal with the dress ship. That's
so stupid, Like.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
No, it's only it's only a big deal only with
black dudes. And it's like, it's so dumb that you
have that different standard. It's like the idea of like somebody.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
In Robby Williams wardress dusted, hoping that big every guys,
Arnold Swartzenegger, do you know what it really is? This
is what it comes down. It's seeing someone hyper masculine
wear a dress. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
And if you want to talk about the racism of it,
the racism is people perceive black men as being hyper masculine.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Correct. I don't know if that's like an insult.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Maybe you find that something that you're proud of, but
the perception is hyper masculine. So seeing someone who's hyper
masculine in address is funny. Arnold Schwarzenegger is hyper masculine,
so in address, he's funny. How need you see Jonah
Hill and his tits and addresses, you know what I mean,
It's not that funny, right, So it's like, to me,

(36:29):
that's the takeaway. So but then I get I guess,
you know, I don't know who said it, but they're like, oh,
they're trying to masculate all these black man. It's like,
I don't think Hollywood has this like grand design, and
how can we emasculate all black guys? I just think
that it's it's like a low hanging fruit. It's like
the easiest version of a joke, and it's just lazy.
It's just lazy writing.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Frankly, I read that you went to a shreetport to
check out g Unit fifty.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Seys the goat. Bro fifty asked me, I'm pulling up. Really,
I love fifty. Fifty is the goat. If fifty doesn't
with you, I don't with you. But I just don't
know why yet. But he's never wrong. If he doesn't
like you, there's a reason, really, and in my suspicion,
he knows the reason, but he doesn't snitch, so he

(37:15):
just doesn't tell. But he'll say he doesn't like he's
been saying. The Diddy forever, and all of us were like, oh,
you just hating. I was like, so if he doesn't
like you.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
You ain't go to the party. You end up been
to one of the Diddy parties. I wasn't cool enough, Bro,
you went, Bro? I just I just got on like
a year and a half ago.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, that's what everybody says, right I did. I'm supposed
to act like you and not a three time super
Bowl champion going to Diddy.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Party and got invited nowhere? All right?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You probably would have went to Epstein's Island, Nah, Shannon,
What if they said it was a lu Lemon outlet
and everything.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
What if they said there half off Lulu's at the
Epstein's Eye, You go right here hills and go to
Lulu You think, but I think that you.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Would have gone beautiful in private? Now, No, not for
any of the I'm not I'm not a party guy.
You're not a party guy. What if they had the
best oat meal. What if every morning it was the
best oat meal you've ever had and you never went
to one freak out, not one nothing, no freak Nick?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (38:14):
What is.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
The ten times? That's a whole different? Tell me about
the freak Nick would like that was it crazier? Was
it crazy? And what? Yeah? Can you explain what that is?
It even legal to explain whether they did away with it.
It had gotten so, it had gotten so big, it
was gotten so out of control. So this is happening

(38:37):
in Florida. Just no, this is Atlanta? Oh is Atlanta? Yeah?
Where am I think? Where the Uncle Luke?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Oh that was Daytona. That was Black College Beach Week.
But Uncle Luke came to a freak Nick too, unc yeah, okay, yeah,
and what happens it's just shut it down. They got
just it just got too it got too big. Uh,
it got too crazy. They would just like you ended up.
Businesses had to shut because people were not they did

(39:03):
they didn't know how to behave because it was cool
when it was just college students, and then it became
because grown people started it, and you know, and guys
just started getting disrespectful with the women and they just
the traffic was gridlocked and people started complaining and they.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Just like, bro, you know, it's funny. The same thing
happened to white Freaknik, which is spring spring break? Yeah,
and where was that did y'all? He was doing it
in Cancun and they were doing in a bunch of places.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
TV yeah, MTV, And I remember I was working for
MTV back the day I hosted like the last ever
spring Break and I knew it was over because the
sponsors were like Kmark Like. I was like, yeah, that's
not a sexy sponsor, you know what. And but I
remember seeing the people in the crowd and this is
supposed to be like a college thing. Yeah, and I
remember seeing like thirty five year old British guys. Yeah,
this is this is a little weird. So that's really

(39:49):
what it is. It's just the old people started showing up. Yeah,
you got to find old people parties.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah. And then it started showing up and MPEd it
up and it was you got to go to Burning Man, bro,
I gotta take you to Burning Man. Where is that ad?
You never heard of Burning Man? I have a Oh man,
this is this amazing party events.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I don't even know what to call it, but we
just going to go out to the desert, going to
go out to the desert and uh, where is exactly
black Rocks City? Is that Nevada? Yeah, Nevada, Black Rocks
see Nevada. And then you just basically drive your little
Winnebago out there. We hang out for the week.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
You know, you'll do it.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I've gone a few times. I might go back this year.
I gotta talk to the wife. You know, we got
to negotiate these so I guess this is for older people.
Did He used to go there a lot, actually, but
it's not his thing, but he did go there. We
tried distance ourselves from that, but I didn't go to
any Diddy parties at burning Man, I'm not a crowd guy.
Oh really, but you're such a performer. You've got such

(40:45):
a Yeah, you're good with the tension.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
And when people ask me, this is how I describe myself.
I'm the most outgoing introvert. You're gonna be interesting. I'm
exhausted at the end.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Of the day. It's a real effort for you to
do it. Got it. I go home. I don't really talk.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I mean I had a girlfriend, uh and her friends like, man,
he gotta be so much fun. I mean, you see
him on television and she was like, he's nothing like.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
That at home. Really, So you're quiet, You're in your head. Yeah,
are you like plotting and thinking? Are you like I am?
I am thinking.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I'm thinking, how do we grow this? How do I
make this better? How do I get better at this?
How do I get better at my job at ESPN?
How do I get better at club shap? How do
I get better at Nightcap? How can we scale Shae
shape media?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
What do we need? Yeah? M constantly competing? Yeah, but
I'm my competition. I'm my competition. Does nobody else? What
about Ocho? She was my partner. So you brought in
your biggest competition and as your partner genius?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
No, I just thought I thought would be great. He's
phenomenal because he gets the entertainment aspect of it. He
doesn't take himself serious.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
He's able to laugh at himself. That is an incredibly
endearing quality.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
It is it is.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, I think that's uh and it's very rare. You
can make fun of him and he'll laugh, but he'll
also hit you with oh yeah, yeah yeah. I don't
want him and Cam to beef anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Can we stop that? I don't know what that's about.
I don't know anything about that. I didn't know Camp.
You know Cam and Mace what they've made? Yeah, they
do what they do? What they do, but what I don't.
I don't. I'm not in competition with them. We do
what we do.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Like I said, they print eighty percent of the money
in the last five years. They'll print more. We don't
have to be in competition. If we get something, that
doesn't mean you lost. If you get something that don't
mean we lost. That's that's the way. That's the way
I look at it. Now everybody doesn't look at it
that way. Everybody wants us to be in competition. I'm
not in competition with them, guys, Oh Jo and I
are not in competition. We believe it is what it is,

(42:50):
or the pivot all the smoke or who fourth and one,
cam Bro, y'all do what y'all do.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
We do what we do, and then continue to do
each other stuff and kill each other up. This is
what Rogan did so brilliantly.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's like all the guys populated each other's podcasts and
then everybody rose up.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
What did you learn about when you were working at MTV?
What did you learn? Hmmm that you gotta I learned
a lot of things. I learned like.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
How to kind of behave on sets. I learned, like,
you know, how to interact with other people in the business,
like what they're looking for. Who are the real ones?
Who are the fake ones? You know, Like I met
some some real friends there. You know, I met Charlemagne there,
I met a little Douvall there, like mentors, like you know,
Duval is like this huge mentor for me. Everything that
I've done and stand up is based on something that

(43:40):
little Duval's already done.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I don't think Duval.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I don't think Duval gets enough credit for the influence
he's had on comedy and internet culture. Yeah, people are
copying things he's done without even knowing that he was
the first.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
One to Yeah he did that ten fifteen year at
the beginning. He's a genius. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
He's also like a literal like if you sit with
him and you just around him, yeah you yeah, you're
feeling something. Yeah, it's just weird. It's like wise beyond
his ears. There's it's a it's a very interesting sensation
when you're around him. Yeah, he's he's a fascinating guy
and he's like one of the few mentors that I've
had in comedy and just entertainment.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
How did you and Charlemagne decide to get together do
a pod man, he asked me.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
He was like, yea, you want to do because we
would just talk all the time, like during the week
things I ask you, Yeah, which you know, fun, you
got me, you know, gotta you gotta fight him now,
But he would just talk throughout the week. We're just
on the phone and like just you know, talking and
just making jokes about whatever. And he has this great
line where he's we even saying on the pod, like
when anybody brings up a topic, you know, we just go,

(44:46):
We're just I just want to let you all know
we are not mature enough to have this conversation, right So,
no matter what it is, we're not mature enough. So
if you choose to listen, that's on you because we
told you we're not mature enough. But uh, and then
he was like, yo, you should do this pod. And
then Chris Moreau is a guy produced the pod. He
was pitching it to him, and and then we just
started it and like, you know, he's just he's the
greatest radio personality of my lifetime, right, you know, so

(45:06):
it's like him talking on a mic. He's just he's
mastered it. And I learned so much just from him
in general, he's just he's he's also a genius, right,
like true marketing.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Genius.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So yeah, just getting to do that every single week.
And then just the show's been going for ten years,
people like different people are just finding out about it now, right,
and like like we've been doing this for ten years.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
It's so funny because like when when white people will
talk to him about the show, sometimes they'll be like, yo,
I see you doing that.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I see you on Andrew Schultz's show. And then black
people will talk me about it. They'll be like, yo,
I saw you on Charlottmay show.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
And we're just like, yeah, it's fine, dude, we don't
need to explain this, but yeah, it's just awesome.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
He's just he's pure entertainment. How do you think podcasts
have helped helped you?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I think what it is allowed me to create authentically,
so like before that, not even before that, but like
I don't want to make my only money to provide
for my family with my art, right because then you're compromised.
It's like you need to go out there and do shows. Right,
So now I'm Russian jokes, I'm Russian. The next tour

(46:17):
I'm doing whatever, and podcasting has allowed me to maintain
my life and then make sure that the art is
one hundred percent authentic in terms of what I want to.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Create, and I'm like the most grateful for that.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
It's also great for like building an audience and an
understanding of who you are, and like, despite people misunderstanding
you on the internet or believing like these headlines, you
got you know, hundreds of thousands of people that really
know who you are and they're there to arrive for
you when shit goes south.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Luisgja MAINGIONI received five hundred thousand in donations.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
How do how is this possible?

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Man?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Well, you want to know, Yeah, I want to know.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
The way that Americans react to these events will tell
you everything about how they feel towards these institutions. Americans
are hurting, bro, They're upset, they feel disillusions, like they
don't trust the government, they don't trust the medical industry,
they don't trust the pharmaceutical industry, they don't trust the food,
they don't trust.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
The wars that we're in.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Like, so when one of these guys that's at the
head of a healthcare company guests clipped in brutal disgusting fashion.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Like we shouldn't be like laughing about it.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Right, we're already so hurt, we're already so destitute that
we're like, ah, that guy.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, people, Oh he deserved it, charging all those high
ass prices for all that medicine.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
For real, Like that does.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
But if I'm the companies, or if I'm the billionaire class,
I'm these super rich people, I'm looking at that and
I'm going, Okay, we're we're pushing them too much. In
other words, like I imagine I don't know, I don't
got that kind of money, but I imagine like the
people who got all the money, Yes, the billionaires. They

(48:03):
don't want poor people to be too poor because then
we show up at your door with the guns and
we start shooting you. You need poor people to be
have just enough where they don't want to rebel and revolt.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Right, Yeah, the poor gotta be a little rich. You
gotta have a little something. They gotta have a little
some because they don't have enough, they'll come get it
from somewhere. Because if I'm dying anyway, I'm gonna kill you. Yeah.
So if you're the super rich, you have to look.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
At a moment like that, and you gotta go, we
got to get these poor people some money because if
they don't have money, they're knocking on my door. So
if I'm Jeff Bezos, if I'm Elon, if I'm Zuckerberg,
if I'm all these guys whatever that billionaire class is,
I'm going, hey, how can we get Americans some money?
Because they are not happy? And they're supporting a guy
who's just clipped the dude who's not even a high

(48:48):
he's not even a billionaire, right that, Like that's the
that I'm looking at.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
How they growing up in New York shape you with
the diversity that would come New York said, New York has.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Everything, Yeah, and they're right there greatest, So you had
to like it wasn't like like me.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I mean like I went to school with wife, but
we was here, they were there. How did that shape
what we see the Andrew shows that we see sitting
here today?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
It showed me how awesome people are. People are awesome
and their cultures are awesome. And I got firsthand knowledge
of it. You know, I got to go see what
a bar mitzvah is and a bot mitzvah is. You know,
I got to see these Jewish kids turn into men
and women and they're holding the chairs and jumping up,
and I'm like, wow, that looks really cool.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I would want that for a birthday party, you know.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah. I got to try foods you wouldn't imagine.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
And I got to see the way that, like my
Dominican friend's mom was just so like doting and loving
on her children, and how protective and kind and like.
I got to see these the most amazing things about
all these different cultures, and I think that's where my
curiosity stemmed from. I got to see how hard these
Chinese people would work. Man, Like these kids that I
would go to school with, they're going to school seven

(50:02):
days a week, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
It's not like shocking.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
They're getting sixteen hundred on their sets. They're working their
ass right, And I got to see all that firsthand,
and it was beautiful. And I think that's where my
curiosity and my kind of love for all these different
cultures comes from. Is I got to experience like the
best of it. And also, like every one of us
was kind of first generation in American you know, like

(50:27):
my dad's from America, but like my mom's not. So
we're all got this like immigrant kid mentality. There's like
this hunger, there's this excitement. We don't have this this
like a lack of hope, which unfortunately, I think a
lot of people in America have right now. We were
it's like we were just dropped on American and we're
in New York and it's time to get after it.

(50:47):
So when we saw somebody with something, it didn't make
us feel bad. It made us inspired, like, oh, I'm
gonna get that shit too.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
We were hustling from young kids. I was making fake
DVDs and fake CDs.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
I'm trying to sell them to the kids in the school,
Like I was doing anything I could to get some money.
And I think that also came from all my friends
around me also trying to hustle. It was exciting, like
it was just yeah, my my upbringing was what was wild,
Like I saw a lot of maybe at a younger
age than most, but it was.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
It was. It's the greatest city in the world. It's
the greatest city in.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
The world when you look at America. America was built
not by natives. It was built by the slave That
was built by the immigrants. From Europe. Why do you
think the immigrants are treated so poorly today? Well by
whom us as Americans that.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I mean, not me.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I don't treat them because I think the thing is
for me. I mean, they're doing jobs that I ain't
trying to do that job. I did them, I did them.
I will constructure that. I want manual labor jobs and
a lot of the jobs that the immigrants. And I
think the way they phrase it is that they come
and stealing your job. They a's stealing no job that
we want to do, trust.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Me, Yeah exactly, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's I mean.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Actually, I don't even know if that's right, because I
don't know if there's an American out there who's like
I would love to do that job.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Maybe there are, maybe there's plenty that don't.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
But I mean when I went and when interviewed Trump,
there are three things I want to talk about, right,
There's three things like and we had the opportunity to
interview some who might be president, and some people were
critical of even doing the interview. But the way I
look at that is like if you don't have the opportunity,
you can't really say what you would or wouldn't do.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
There's a lot of people that's that good. Got to
go be the brethren of the United States. You absolutely take.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
It right, especially if you care about your country right right.
And who knows if I have any influence over Trump.
I don't think I do. But there are three things
I want to talk about. Number One, I wanted him
to say that he was going to protect IVF. That's
how my wife and I had to have a kid.
We weren't able to conceive now. And Two I was
want to end foreign wars. And three I wanted some
compassion for illegal immigrants that are obeying the law. They're hardworking.

(52:47):
If you break the law, you're doing crimes. Send them
the out. You got unanimous support in America for that.
I don't think there's any Americans like, well, let's keep
all the murderers that are illegal, like get him out here.
But if you have somebody this in their ass off,
they have a family here a pathway to citizenship, I
don't think it is. Also, you have to understand, like
my mom's an immigrant, Like it's impossible for me to

(53:09):
not think that immigrants are what make America great. So
they make the best Americans. Every American that cries about
how American is right, none of them immigrated here.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
When you immigrate to America, you think that this is
the great. You can't my mom can't say a bad
word about America.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I'm telling you that you need that energy. That energy
is infectious, that desire, It's what I grew up around.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I grew up around all these people who are like, holy,
I got an opportunity to make it, and I'm going
after it. And yeah, I wish I hope that this
administration will look at that. Doesn't look like they're doing it,
but I hope that they'll look at that, and I
hope we find a pathway to legalization for them.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
I mean, but the thing is that his wife is
an immigrant. Elon Musk is an immigrant. Yeah, I mean
a lot of it seemed like to me. A lot
of times shows Incorrectma if I'm wrong. A lot of
times people achieve something and once they get it, let's
shut the door.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Don't let anybody else get it.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, because you look at Marco Rubio, you look at
a lot of people their parents immigrated here.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Now, no, no, no, no, we don't want nobody else get.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
They would maybe argue that they did it legally or
these things happen, but no, like they did like his wife,
I guess did illegally and Elon did I legally. And
I understand that there is a distinction. Like my mom
was able to do it, she was able to do
it legally, right, But it doesn't stop the fact that
like there are people here that are hardworking. Yes, they're
benefiting the American economy, an American lifestyle, and they are

(54:39):
a net positive for us.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, they pay taxes.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Exactly, so why don't we Just in my opinion, I
think that the barter or whatever the bargain is, lock
up that border. You have the right to have a
strong border. Sure, sure there's these some people who are
like against having a strong border, which is just like weird,
like right, the only thing that makes you a country.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
But I think you and I agree. But the drugs
that coming again at points of entry, then not come
across the border.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I imagine there's multiple ways that they get Yeah, I
don't think there's just one, but I think there's probably multiple.
But my point is, like, you have the right to
block the boarder if you have a good effective way
to block the border, block let's do it.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
But the people who are already here are productive. Give
them a pathway to citizenship. If you are breaking the law,
see you later. You don't get to come here and
negatively impact American's lives.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
If you break it the law in America, you go
to jail. So if they do that time in jail
and then once they don't be send them back to
wherever they came.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
No, you're not gonna do your time here. You're gonna
do your time over there. Now they're gonna they gonna
let them out and then they're gonna come right. That's
on them. Now we got the wall. No, no, don't.
How'd you meet your wife? Had I beat her? How
you meet her?

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Jesus Christ, had I beat her? I was like, how
did you find out? Now you meet her?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
I meet her?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
We actually met on Instagram the damn slid. No wait, yeah,
we actually saw each other.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I guess on a on a dating app and then
she had messaged me in you'd be on the dating apps.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
I was on a dating app? Yeah yeah, yeah, you
Andrew shows. Why are you on a dating app?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I mean, I guess it's easier and you know, you
have to find efficiencies in life, you know.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
But you know what they say it that seventy five
percent of the man have to ask a woman out
in person.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
It's on Instagram, it's on dating app. Yeah, don't you
miss the old fashioned way? I do. I think that
it's like I couldn't tall the character.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, but you have to understand, when you know the
golden ticket drops in your lap, you're not gonna say no.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yeah, true, you know.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
So.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah. So when we went on a date and it
was awesome, you knew it at first? Did you know
your first second date? I was like, yeah, we're gonna
get married probably really yeah, damn, yeah, you have to
be real hard up. Yeah, I was hard second day.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Talk about second day, I mean, I mean, at least
get a year in no, No, I mean it took
us a while to get married, but I think I knew.
I was like, yeah, there's just something different about her,
there's something special about her. And also she made me
wait too, she was asleep with me at all. All
that discipline. I like that discipline though. I think that's
something that women need. It's not about like not having

(57:13):
sex with a guy, like it's having sex with a guy.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
When you want to we're gonna try. Yeah, but there's
something like really awesome about knowing that we're trying.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
And then they're like, this ain't gonna happen because now
I know, when you're out there in the world and
some other guy tries, you could thwart that advance as well.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
It might be you might have been known one day.
What have you learned about men? CJ?

Speaker 4 (57:37):
CJ? Was that one of the questions?

Speaker 1 (57:39):
CJ?

Speaker 4 (57:40):
You writing these segments?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
CJ fire CJ immediately, what have you learned about? CJ?
Is a white guy.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I want to let you know the whole team is
white guys.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
This is a facade, this is a lie. What have
you learned about marry? Who's the number one thing that
you learned about marriage? Oh?

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Man?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
You know what I learned is that, like everything that
makes you good at comedy makes you bad at relationships.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
You joke with your why oh all the time. She's
a great sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
But like I remember, we were talking to a therapists
right and it was like and it was like and
my wife was like if there was like Emma was like,
my wife's name is Ava, and she was like that
there was like, Hey, you don't have to explain yourself.
If she says that something bothered her, you can just
acknowledge her feelings, right. And I'm like, I'm like, but why?

(58:28):
But what if He's like, listen, it's not helpful to explain,
create justifications, or give examples for things when it comes
to an argument.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
And I'm like, sir, I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Dedicated the last seventeen years of my life to giving examples,
metaphors and justifying everything that I possibly can. Right, you're
telling me I got to stop that when I'm communicating
with my wife. And he's like absolutely, And it was
a good It was a really good, helpful thing to learn.
A lot of times when people complain, they don't want
you to talk them out of their feelings. They just
want their feelings acknowledge. Here, I am trying to help

(59:01):
you with your failings.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
You go to therapy. Yeah, yeah, I think it's really helpful. Yeah.
You know what my therapist told me? What do you say? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
She asked me about going to a female. I went
to a female. She asked me a simple question, she said, Shannon,
what'd she say? Are you arguing for right or you're
arguing to be right.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
What do you answer? You already know I'm trying to
be right, right, But she said, Shannon, you look and
she said, Shannon, you're communicating. She said, you're gonna have
to communicate in a language that she understands. She said,
right now, you're speaking Mandarin and she's speaking Spanish. Yes,
So either she learns Mandarin or you learn Spanish so

(59:47):
you guys could communicate, yeah, or it's not gonna work
and she's not gonna learn Mandarin. I'm just gonna let
you know. They're not gonna learn mandry.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
They know what they know, and they just got to
the feelings need to be acknowledged. It's really crazy. Yeah,
it's but we feel at least I don't know. I
feel it's like if I do something and it bothers you, right,
But it's not my intention to hurt your right, and
I apologize for it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
My fear is that you will think that that was
my intention. My fear is that you're going to go
You're going to think that I wanted to hurt you
by saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
So here I am trying to explain it away. I'm like, no,
what I really meant, And they don't need that they
just need you to go, oh, man, I'm sorry that
I made you feel that way. And the second you
say that, they go, oh, thank you so much for
acknowledging that feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It's done.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
After that, It's kind of crazy here we are trying
to like talk them out of their feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
So waste the time. Dan, you mentioned your daughter. He
not even listening.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Trying to help them. I'm trying to help them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
You keep using the word intent. Intent only matters to you,
That's what I'm saying. Yes, they don't care about your intent. No,
because the ass sometime to.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Tell you this guy is diabolical.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Don't explain to me what I just explained to you. No,
that was inane. Litle girl got no chance. Your girl
got the sweetheart, You got no chance. He's gaslighting me. Man.
Manslaughter and murder, Yes, manslaughter and murder. What's the difference, Uh,
manslaughter sounds more sexual. It's intent. Oh yeah, intent, girl,

(01:01:27):
give you some manslaughter. No, intent only matters to the defendant. Yes,
you're right. His victim is just is dead.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
Is that you? So?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
You said? What that wasn't my intent?

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Is hurt she's over there, hurt. Yes,
that's what I'm trying to explain to you. Are you
explaining that today? You know I understood that the therapy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I wouldn't the therapy before you, So I totally understand
your dog great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Like I listen, it's difficult to do. I think that
there's this like stigma on it, unfortunately, but you should.
You do everything you got to rehab for your if
it's messed up, you take care of your body. You
go to visit doctors for every other thing you have
to nurture. Like I would tell people before they even
get married, go to a therapist, Like when you know
you're gonna get married, go to a therapist and have

(01:02:13):
them talk you through some of the changes that are
going to start to happen. Like people have this big
ego about not wanting to do it. They're like embarrassed
or whatnything like that. It's like you should be embarrassed
about not caring enough about your relationship to make it
the best that it can be, especially if you got
a kid, Like that's the motivation for everything. You don't
want your kid to see you arguing or big and
that kind of stuff like that, like get out of

(01:02:34):
your ego, get out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Of your own way. Yeah, that's the thing. I think
the biggest thing is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
And they was telling me to say, if you ever
get married, you do understand the person you're married today
is not going to be the person you're married tomorrow.
So you have they change. People change, people avolved and you.
I used to think it was funny when people are like, well,
we just grew apart. Yeah they did because one person
evolved and the other didn't. They think that's the person,

(01:02:59):
the person that they married ten years ago or fifteen
years ago with the same person they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
That's what you have to Yeah, you got to check in.
And a lot of people just ignore that evolution. But
sometimes that evolution just makes things better. Yeah, makes things closer,
it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
The only costant is change. Yes, yes, so you have
to embrace that change.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Yes, girl, dad, Yeah you said that if the kid
turns out bad, they blame the parents.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, I mean if you do. If they turn out good, hey,
great parents. If the kid turns out bad, they had
no If.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
The girl's bad, it's dad's fault only. Yeah, where was
dad at? That's it right, it's always our fault. If
it's a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
If the boy shoots up a school, they don't go, oh,
what what's the was it dad's fault or something like that.
But if the girl's a whore, it's always deadful. It
is the case, right, It's always no matter. You could
be the best dad ever, but if your girl is
a whoreor right now, I'm not saying your girl, but
you know what I mean. Yeah, it's yes, it's one
hundred percent of your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
You got a daughter, right, two daughters? How is that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Imagine one of my oldest daughters in HR My my
youngest daughter just passed the residency.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
So she was about to be a doctor. Oh what
kind of doctor? Antesiology? Whoa that's a people dying? That one? Yeah,
I think scared. Look for me? Is that the way
I was raised?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
And it was different because my oldest lived with me
her last two years of high school and so she's
at that age dating hormones blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Oh yeah yeah, and so who what was that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Would you meet her boyfriends? What do they say when
they see you? Man? I was you know, it was
a situation, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
It was tough because they want to do what they
want to do and They don't understand at the point
in time that you know eighteen is going to be
twenty two, twenty two is gonna be twenty five, twenty
five is gonna be thirty hopefully, And so you tried
to impart wisdom and knowledge and understanding, but they look
at it as Instagram notification. They want what they want.

(01:05:01):
They want tattoos, They want to be able to go
out come in whenever they want to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
And that was just never gonna ever fly. Please, I'm
your parent. I'm not gonna be your friend the highway,
I'm not going to try to be your friend.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
I'm I'm always gonna be And I told my kids,
I told all my kids this, our dynamic won't ever change.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I'm always gonna be the parent. You're always gonna be
the child. And do you think your kids know that
you love them? Oh? Yeah, they do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
They do because they see what I did and they
have a birth see maybe not then, but now as
adults now, and they see.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
How and wait till they have kids.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah, wait till I think once you have kids, you
have a completely different understanding of the decisions your.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Parents, right you mentioned earlier IVF. Yeah, and that's you
know that's very I'm sure that's very painful for a
woman to have to have to go through that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, because that's a lot of shots. Bro. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah,
it's tough. Yeah, it's tough for us too because we
got to deal with them on the shots and harmone
are going crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah no, no, yeah, yeah, it's it's a No, it's
it's tough for them. It's a it's a tough process
for sure. But I think what's more tough is not
being able to get pregnant. So I think that's the
that's what you're looking at. It's actually more painful not
being able to get pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
So you look, you feel less than a woman because
she's not able to conceive. Well, it was my fault,
not hers, It is yours. Yeah, oh may you fire
and blakes on. Yeah, they just don't swim. They're black. No,
there you go, there you go, I do it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
I do itugging stereotypes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
All white crew laughing at that joke.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Just let you know people of color here laughing anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
No, but uh no, no, but when you found that
out that it was Bro, I thought it was her too.
We're trying you know, what I mean, it's not working.
I'm like, oh damn, Like I felt bad for her,
Like I actually prayed the night before we got the results, right,
I prayed that it was fault.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
And then we got the results, and God is like,
bat I got you. I hold you that, I hear
all your friends you want you won't just blame I
got you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
So yeah, so then I did that, and then just
having to deal with that is like you also look
back at your whole whole life. You're like, I wasted
so many condumns, so much plan be, like so much
stress of getting you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Couldn't get Nobody pray it anyway anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Plan be sitting in their stomach looking around Like Will
Smith in the last episode of Fresh Prince, He's just
kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Staring at the living room, like, am I doing it? Yeah?
So so so how I mean, so, how do I
mean you have one?

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
You have a daughter? Yes, we have a daughter. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
So so basically, my sperms just didn't swim that well, right,
So it's possible maybe if we kept at it for
what you call them I U I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Yeah, we did that. It didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
So we tried IUI, which is where they basically like,
take your swim they should. Yeah, and then we tried
IVF afterwards and we were able to get praying throve.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah. Oh you tried that again now, so we have
the embryos frozen, so you have all things.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
So like if we want to have another one, you know,
we're in conversations that I would love to expand it
for it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Won't you just started out and let let as surrogate.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Now because I think that the women like going through
that part of the process. You know, I think my
wife liked being pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
But you just pregniced it with me now. Oh that's it. Yeah,
I'm shooting it up. Now it's crazy. Oh you're shooting club.
Oh I'm shooting the club up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Club is destroy But that's the thing. You never know.
Maybe it starts to happen. That'd be and that'd be
cool too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
But either way, do you wish you would have got
started earlier because you know you're older, you're parted. I mean,
you wish you had got started maybe mid late twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
The thirty first thought I have when I saw my
daughter as I wish that I did this twenty years
ago so I could have more time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
With you, right, so she could actually see, I mean,
you're probably still gonna be doing this when she's older
to understand what the dad is doing. But that's one
of the things that I really appreciate that my kids
got an opportunity to see that dad do his first career.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
But also I just want to be like around them
for longer.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Like within ten seconds, I was like, I just want
to spend as much time with you as I possibly can.
So I think there's part of me that did that,
But then I wouldn't be with my wife, and my
wife is the person that I'm supposed to be with.
So I'm glad it worked out this way. I think
I'm mature enough and like and ready to do it.
But uh but yeah, man, it was It was tricky,
but you also got to take ego out of it.
Like there was part of me that was like, all right,

(01:09:15):
I just I want to get it pregnant naturally, And
then every month when she'd look at the pregnancy tests
and it wasn't there, she'd cry and I'm like how much.
I was talking to IVF doctor and he was like,
you got to look at this. He's like, if you
have the money, and it's not a concern. You got
to look at how much stress on your relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
This is going to cost.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
You might get pregnant, Like you could keep trying for
a year, you can keep trying for two years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
You never know it could happened. It takes one right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
But what is the stress on your wife and your relationship?
And after that, I was like, let's go, let's do
this IVF And it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Did you change eat? Did you chap the change of
eating habits? Did you eat different glass before I did?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Like, so before we did IVF, I was talking to
doctors like is there anything I could do to like
make my sperm better right? Because they said it wasn't
swimming that much And they're like, yes you could. You
got ice you balls every day. So I was icing
my balls every day. They're like, you gotta not wear
tight underwear, so I was wearing loose underwear. You gotta
stop drinking, you gotta stop smoking.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
So I was clean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I was icing my balls every single day. I was
taking these pills. I was taking like four pills a day.
I was doing everything I possibly could do. I went
and got tested again. My sperm got worse damn. Yeah, yeah,
Alan Iverson, it was like practice, we.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Talk about practice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I was like, I'm doing everything I can.

Speaker 6 (01:10:37):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
You in there, You're jerking off into these cups, man,
and it's just so it's just humbling, bro. But the
crazy thing about it was like, after talking about it,
when you're doing it, you think you're the only person
that's ever struggled to get pregnant right the way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
It's so isolating. No, it's a lot of people dealing
with that. But I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
So I started talking about on stage and people start
coming up to me and they're like, oh, yeah, that
was really cool to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
You know, I never say talk about that. I went
through that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
And then one of the most beautiful things about it
was like on the tour, there'd be all these people
that came out to the tour. I never told them
that this is what the show was about, Like I've
never been personal and never told stories really, And then
after I'd get all these dms even to this day
of people who are like, yo, I saw the show,
we tried to have IVF, we ended up getting pregnant,
like or they were going through that process during that

(01:11:22):
time and then they'll message me months later and they
have a baby, and wow, yeah it was It was
this thing I didn't expect out of the tour of
the show, but it was so rewarding, you know, like
you realize that there are levels of importance to things,
and nothing is more important than your family and that
baby that you make and getting to see people witness
that and experience that even in the show. You know,

(01:11:45):
like life doesn't always work out sometimes exactly, and that's right.
Sometimes you don't get what you want, but you get
what you what you what you need. And I think
that's what happened to us, Like we might have wanted
it to happen one way, but the thing we got
was the most perfect thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I couldn't imagine doing it another way. So it was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
You mentioned your dad is suffering earlier from short term memory.
How had that been on your mom?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Hard, because she got to take care of him, and
you know it's a full time it's a full time
job to do that, and you're also like losing this
person that you love. But I tell you, like, when
you start to lose your memory, you're left with like
who you truly are. And I think the last memory
my dad will have is how amazing my mom is.

(01:12:32):
It's amazing to hear him talk about how like infatuated
with her he still is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
And yeah, it's really I was concerned. You know, my
dad is old. I'm like, is he going to like
say some racist like you know what I mean? You
don't know. But his heart is pure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
He's like this beautiful soul and like my mom had
to take his debit card because he was just giving
people money for no reason forgetting. So he was given
a guy at the fruit stand money and then forgetting
he gave him and then going back to the bank
taking out more.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Much like he's just he's a beautiful soul. So so
yeah he's handling all right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Yeah, you Nicks, what your Knicks gonna do this year?
They're gonna get get past Boston, get past the Cavs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I don't know, man, I mean, I'm a delusional New
York fan, So I'm saying, you know, next are gonna
win a championship every single year?

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Well, we know your Giants and Jests ain't winning nothing. Yeah,
I think it just got it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Next year on the Giants too, got what I think
they're gonna win the Super Bowl together.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Oh, if they can find the teams.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
They Yeah, what is happening with New York sports man?

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
When I was growing up, the Yankees were winning everything.
Giants got a couple like, I mean, Knicks, We're in
the playoffs at least cooking. What's going on? What do
you think it is? Well, I mean in football, it's
all about the quarterback. Yeah you see that. Look at
the teams that made the playoffs this year. See you
think Aaron don't have it anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
He has it, but he can't dial it up like
he once could everything. You remember when he's a Green bandman, it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Was he was sensational.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Yeah, there were moments where I would watch him in
Green Bay and I was like, I think this is
the best person to ever played quarterback. I know that's
a crazy take as Tom Brady exists, but there were
moments where I was like, that is the best guy
I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
As you get older, you just can't do it with
frequency and the regularity that you did when you were younger.
And the problem is is that as you if you're
a great player, as you get older, they don't compare
you to other great players. To compare you to your
younger set. So that's what we comparing him to those
four MVPs that he went in Green Bay. Yes, not
to today's quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Yeah, and he is comparable to today's quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Yeah, but he's not what we remember. This is the
burden of greatness, the mess you this when you how
do you write a set? I mean, do you right sets?
Or do Because Marlon Wayne says he don't write anything down,
He just goes can't says he right, quite a lot
of guys say they, right, do you write or did
you just go on stage and just go I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Go on stage with like ideas or feelings. I don't
really have like a punchline for you yet, right, but
there are things I want to talk about. And then
I eventually I listened back to it, and then I
can like write down little ideas from it. And then
that's where the set will kind of build, and then
you refine it. It's like gets fat and then you
whittle away at it. It's like building a sword. You
ever see somebody make a sword where you just kind

(01:15:16):
of have that hunk of steel and then you hammer
it and hammer and it gets sharper and smaller and
sharper and smaller, and eventually it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
That's the idea. How long did it take you to
write that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
It depends. Some jokes could take. There are jokes that
I didn't have done until the night too of my
special tapeming wow, and then there's jokes that come together
in like a month and you're like, holy right. So
it's just it just depends.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yeah, thanks for stopping by there. Anything you want to promote,
you got to. I just want people to go check
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Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
It significantly reduced my racism the second when I started drinking,
I was far less anti Semitic. I started liking fat
women way more. It's a weird side effect, but it
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Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Wow, you're in the store, yes, Because it's a mafia
this liquor. Yeah, like it's it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
That it is. It's a three tier system, isn't that wild?

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah, that's another podcast anyway, Thank you so much for
having me, man, it was really an honor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
I'm stoked to be here with you. And I appreciate
your your time. My brother Jack got Andrew show is
Netflix p Yeah, Life or Fourth It's up there on Netflix. Peace.
Appreciate your brother. Thanks you, man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
I just want to point out that we have already
finished the podcast, and then c J, the producer, walked
back and said, oh, there's just a few more questions
that we got to say.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Okay, so I just want to but I just want
to make sure CJ.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
You're a great producer.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
You're a piece of So you're a great producer. Okay,
Uh yeah, what was the question? Kendrick said something. Yes,
he said, we don't let no white comedians. He said,
don't let no white comedians talk about no black woman.
That's law. Yeah, yeah, you're what's my opinion on that?

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Have you have you not heard it? What did you do?

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
I had an opinion on the internet about it. That
was pretty Uh so you like going back and forth,
especially like you said, only if you're.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Big enough, Like I'm not going to go back and
forth against like a nobody. But if there's if you're
the biggest rapper in the world, then you take a
shot of me. That wasn't even the line that really
bothered me. It was the next one that bothered me.
He's like to the to the Nwards that koon and
the Nwards being groomed slide on both of them. And
a lot of people interpreted that as he was talking

(01:17:54):
to Charlemagne and Alex Media, who I do the podcast now,
to me, the word slid has implications of violence. Yes,
So if you were calling violence on my friends, you're
gonna probably hear something back from me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
That's just you know, I care deeply about these people,
and you know you're the biggest scrapper in the world,
and you know, ever know what your fans might do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
So so you do have two black friends, Huh. I
don't call them friends because they're black, but if they
were white, I would call them friends. Yeah, so you
do have two black people that you but even fifty
like your joke fifty Like.

Speaker 8 (01:18:33):
Hold on, bro, come on, now, you fifties of the man,
dude that that is the fucking that fifties and king
of this, Like, I would love to see how he
would have handled it any type of beep or anything
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
But people call your friends on the internet. They say
they yes, man, they say they just agree with whatever
you say. They go along with the keiki key and
they don't hold you accountable for some of the stuff.
Who I mean they got to underseat? When'd you say,
Alex media?

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Who Alex meaning?

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Yeah, I'm saying that's what the internet saying. That's what
your friends are. Your friends are, yes, man, Which friends?

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Which friends? I guess you're black friends. You know you
only got two Charlemagne an Alex. You gotta tell him
what you mean by the questions. No, I want to
be your friend. You got two friends and they don't.
He's talking about a different podcast. No, No, I'm saying
you could just be like, I don't know what this
question is. You can't say that. They say it your

(01:19:24):
black friends? How many black friends?

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Putting his foot down, it's not about the black friends.
First of all, I don't have black friends. I have friends, Okay,
them happen to be black. I don't categorize them unless
they're Jews, and then I can't. You only got Judo,
but the Jews are just my Jewish friends. Everyone else
is just friends.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Okay, yeah, but okay, let me ask you this. So
who you taking? Who you taking to be? Drake a kindred?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Oh, I mean Kendrick one. It's not even a question, right,
like he won? Of course he won, of course the
way because y'all, y'all have a little freation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
No, I'm no objective, Like I prefer Drake's music, of course,
so does yeah, so does the rest of the world.
There's I mean, there's data that backs that, like that's
he's the most listened to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
It's not a question.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
But in terms of who won it, I think you
can't be like emotional about these kind of things, like, yeah,
he wanted Padrake is really good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
He is, He's really good. That wordplays he was on point. Now, yeah,
Drake is really good. Yes, it's actually really cool to
see that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
It's very rare that you get to see two people
at the best of their ability go at it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
So, yeah, mixed race cultures because you get this situation
that like, well, you got one parent's white one players
are black or whatever the ethnicity are, and they say, well,
you're not this enough to be in this culture, You're
not that enough to be in that culture.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
So you're somewhere like in between. Yeah, yeah, how do
you feel about that? Must feel lonely. I'm one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
You see, both of my parents were well, not quite
this chair complexion, but they were pretty dark.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Oh you're black, Holy Holy, I had no clue. That's crazy. Yeah,
I'm mixed with water in shade by Laportier.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
No, Like, yeah, I think that must be tough. You know,
when I was I used to live in Spain. My
roommate was a half Cameroonian and half Spanish, like from Spain.
And when he was in Cameroon, he was considered white,
and he's from Spain, and when he's in Spain, he's
considered black. And what he started doing is saying that
he was from Cameroon, right, And he did that piece.

(01:21:35):
He's like, I'm not going to let you decide my identity. Oh,
I'm going to tell you what my identity is and
what I feel like. And I can imagine that being
tough man. That's probably got to be hard.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
It is because you're kind of like impurgatory. You're not
good enough to go here, You're not good enough to
go bear, So you're somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
And then when you do something good, both sides claim you. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
So now all of a sudden, when you're good, oh,
you're the man, like Barack Obama's president, and all of
a sudden, it's like, oh, it's the first black president.
That was now Barack Obama does some they're like, look
at that half white guy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Yeah, or Tiger. Tiger was the best of that because
Tiger was black. And then all of a sudden he
was complination. I don't even know what that was, was complination.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
He's complination. Yeah, he's complination.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Guess I guess his mom had rest her soul. She
just passed recently. And so that's what people like, hold on, bro,
we've been rocking with you. When they were calling you
all them names. You ain't mentioned nothing about your agents
is sent And now he's saying I'm complination. Yeah, yeah,
what do you think he is? Just what do you
what would you say? All I know is I saw
them things. They said the N word. They say nothing body, no, Asia,
did he say the N word? No, I'm saying that's

(01:22:40):
what people called it when they got him said that
when he did what he did? Oh say yeah, they say.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Nothing about the age. They mentioned the Asian part. Can
Tiger say the inWORD? It all depends on who he's around. No,
I'm saying, like if you heard him, like if he
nailed a putt and he was just like, now I
don't feel comfortable.

Speaker 9 (01:23:04):
Hold on, So Tiger can't say the nmor so there's
no circumstances where he can say.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
I mean, I'm sure he said it, but I don't
need to be in the facility what he says. So
if he if what if you said it to him
as in an endearing way, you were like, yo, what's up? Nah?
Nah no, and you hear no, no, No, you got
to be. You got to be. I got to like
like like know you for me to address you like that,
Why were you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Calling that to me when we're off camera? Why are
you doing that around your all white staff? Why did
you make a big deal about that that they do
me y'all y'all get it was crazy that you didn't
And I asked you to stop. I was like, please,
can you please refrain from referring to me that that word.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Ask you why you be going to meet me alone
social media?

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
I love me, you talk about you love I love me,
But when did I butcher him? I love Meek, Meek,
I love you. I'm I'm the only one on social
media saying he's not gay.

Speaker 7 (01:24:04):
But you did say you have a hard time proving
that you're straight though I said he did a bad job, yes,
which he laughed at. He laughed at the joke. He's like,
this is the first time I laughed at somebody's saying
I'm funny.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
He just like, So, as long as it's a name,
you're gonna go back and forth with him?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Huh Yeah, if it's if it's somebody, that's if somebody's
using me for my name, I'm not going to go
back and forth. But if it's big enough that, like
you know, sure, I'll do it right. Also if I like,
if there's a but but Meek did nothing to me,
by the way, Like, honestly, he's really innocent in all this,
and I do support him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
I do think that he gets an unfair shake. I
think he gets like trolled a lot, and I think
he's probably like a good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
So I always say leave Mek alone, even though I
do make some jokes, but everybody gets these jokes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
My man. Thank you, Joe, appreciate you. Thank you.

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