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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for you coming back. Part two is underway
business versus rapping the investment portfolio, your arm your business,
your restaurants were rapping where you make your where you
make your money at or you go to these.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, rapping, of course, that's how I It was like
a stepping stoward from me, you know. So I can't
I can't never forget about it. That's how I'm able
to do all the stuff that I'm able to do.
So I still feed that feed the market. But my
heart's nothing that you know, it fills up to me.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'd be your business man.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, I'll be in the background. Nobody know me. With
a hundred million, it's better that way you get me.
I can have Oh lord, that person that don't know about.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
They know about you.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Now, but I know, but they they don't got to
be as out there, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh oh oh, you don't want your business out there?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
If I could have the money without my business being
out there, I much take that. But I can't have
it like that yet. They had gotta be out there.
So that's how the money come in.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
What have you learned about the music business.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I've learned that you cannot count any artists out. You know,
when you think they've done, when you think it's over,
it's never never over. You're truly underestimating the power of
music and the power up Anybody could do something very courageous,
very sporadic, and drop a song with it and they'll
be back. So music has taught me not to write
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people off. You know, right, are you still signed the
Cash Money?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Uh no, I'm not signing anyone right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Now, but you were signed the Cash Money, right? Why'd
you sign there? I feel like they were the most
understanding as far as my lifestyle. So at the time,
a lot of labels was calling and reaching out.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
To me, but.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Atlantic, and you know, I went to Atlantic. I met
the little vice president lady. You know, she just kind
of asked me a questions, like she was like, are
you a crypt like with a C? You know, like crypt,
I mean with a T. At the end, I ain't
really know what she meant, you know, what saying like
crypt what you mean? And then my HOMEI was like,
she saying, you a crypt nigga? Like I'm like, oh shit, yeah,
(02:18):
I probably aint gonna be able to sign here, Like
I don't even you know, I can't see me because
I was doing it all by myself right in the beginning.
I'm doing the bookings. You didn't have a manager, you
don't have a team or anything like. All of this
from from the ground. So, like I said, I like
being the boss, right, So I didn't I didn't even
want to give my bossle duties away to somebody who
(02:39):
wasn't even understand where I'm coming from, right, So cash money,
there was some nigga shit, you know, right, So I
signed with some because I could do nigga shit. I
could drop a song tonight. They didn't take it down,
you know, drop the white people. They gonna take that
ship right now.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What the bird Man teacher bury about that business? Birdy
about that bread?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, not for sure. Bird Man taught me just try
to conduct yourself, you know, carry yourself. You could still
be a street dude and right move like a corporate person. Yeah,
that's probably the best thing, I'd say.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Double X twenty nineteen freshman class Gunner, Meg Baby, Roddy
Witch Corde part of that class man.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I mean, yeah, that was a good class.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Are you in contact with it? Do you do? You?
You know, you in contact with any little any of
these people.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
No, No, I mean I've done music with a couple
of them out after that, right, But as far as today, No,
I mean that nice class. You're the best rapping that
class of courts man damn.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Oh yeah, the baby crazy too, Yeah you go crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah gone gonna last album that thing here.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, gun we're going crazy too. I like his new
sound and righty grow with it. I don't know Blue,
I mean you know Meg, Yeah, I know mag.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Features I mean Cardi b Offset, Little Baby Gunner, the Baby,
n Ellie Chopper, Kevin Gates. How was those experience? So
let me ask you a question. I sad when you
want to do something with somebody's what you do? You
get on because you know you don't like to turn
your duties over to anybody else. You you the balls?
Do you like to handle that? So you just reach
out on your own?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Uh So? No, I mean I like being the boss,
but if I give you the duty, I don't like
her manager.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, I'll let you let you do it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I'll let you do it until I think you're not
doing good enough, and then I'll probably step in and
start hitting people up. So, and a lot of those
features is just uh my manager or the label just networking.
I never really went out for any of those, and
then a lot of ones that came in was through
management the network. You know, I wasn't trying to get
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on anybody something. So that's how that went.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
How did that Cardi be feature change Change you change
blue face?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, that that took me over that water man, They
overseas start coming in all the states, you know, New
York and whatnot. You know, at first I was just
like California West Coast popping, and then Cardi just took
me across the map. So that's probably what you know,
billboards and all this stuff what not. So shut up
to Cardio? Have you have you have you talked to
her since that time? I mean he got a little bit.
(05:35):
You gotta got another baby now, well not since that time,
but after that, Yeah, she brought me out a couple
of shows, a couple of arenas.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
She's dope. She always treated me respect and.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Then you went on tour with a little baby.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yep. Yeah, so it started just going, just start going
and going.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So when it's going, when it's going like that, did
you like hoard the money like it's really good? Right now?
I'm going a'm I'm out with CARDI, I'm out with
a little baby. Did you hoard the.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Money, Yeah, for sure, that's a part of that's a
part of the restaurant that got the Ring of Kray.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
No, that was I was late in the beginning. I
wasn't no investment. It was too good. I wasn't even
wasn't think about thinking about nothing, you know, I mean,
I'm buying jury type of shit cars. At that time,
I started buying houses though. That was probably the best
right investment. I mean I had two houses at one time.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Let me ask you this, can you given your current
probation situation, you have to get clearance from your probation
officer to like go state to state, to go out the.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Country county to county, county, county of the county.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, that's why I'm only doing like local stuff right now,
until you know, they get a little bit more report
with me.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, they decided that they trust me more to leave right.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, you know, you can't make that big bread until
you able to go state to state country.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I know, I'm just waiting. You know it probably top
of twenty twenty six, right, you got coat side, I
mean Drake. I mean you're out here in the West Coast,
so you know, Kendrick, No, I don't. You don't. Nope.
I thought all the West Coast rap y'all thought y'all
knew each other. I thought y'all were cool like that.
It should be ill shit. Uh, you know, you know
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everybody be lifing. Yeah, some people be doing the thing. No,
so it's hard for all of us to get together.
But it's nothing but a DM phone call, text message.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You cool with Drake?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Uh? Yeah, Drake's cool. He reached out to me early on,
showed me some love right here. You get your beat yup,
send me some beach boy wanted the beat and stuff. Wow. Yeah,
So it was cool, like you know, once it got lit,
everybody was. It's the it's the aftermath. U. Lets you know,
like what's really and what's not? Right now when those
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features and whatnot don't pull three, it's like, oh okay,
okay a that who we all? Huh? It was just
for the moment. Yeah, all right, who would you like
to collab with that you haven't work with?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Mm hmm, share Kendred, make that happen, Make that happen, Shannon.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Better, I don't know nobody in the music business. I
might have been able to get me a beat myself, right,
if you can make it out of that better days?
Is that your best all time.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Lyrically? Probably? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Lyrically, I mean I can do that, you know, I
can get a lyrical but it's not my style.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know, I'm fun. I make music for a woman.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So what you try?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So where are you going with it? What you try
to do now?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Now, I'm just trying to go on another run and
get out the way now that I know the the
mind state of when I get the money and it's running,
exactly what to do?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Run it up, move on exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I ain't trying to be thirty out here trying to
appeal to the young kids. You know, I'm trying to right.
That's on your way exactly, So I gotta get left.
So you're trying to run it up in the next
in the next twelve.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, set up shot man.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I just feel like once you get older, you can't
be trying to appeal to the younger audience forever.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You know, right starts to take a toll on you growing.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Why did you fall out with a bab little baby
an Eli Chopper offset. Remember we talked about the earlier
that conversation had said not having a conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, uh ship, Like I said, when it's when it's hot,
it's respectful. You know, when you lit, they know how
to act second your ship, you know which everyone does,
even those people are at that moment right now when
it gets rocky, start acting funny.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
When you say acting funny, what they didn't call. They
didn't ride, They ain't in no feature. They didn't want
to hop on it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
No blue faces step out out their body. So for example,
in l E Trouble, I helped this man. I got him,
I got him all his little shit going. He used
to video chat me with girls like look I know blueface,
and I'd be like, yeah, that's the bro. You know
you can't do that. And then two years later, when
(10:13):
you feel like you who are you? Who are start
just saying shit like oh you hitting the girl and
all this, and you just start, you know, just going
with the trend.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So you see my interview with T Pain. T Pain say,
when they take nobody's your brother, that only their brother.
As long as they can use you when you hot,
you can do them a solid, then your brother. Yeah,
when you cannot they're not your brother.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, we're falling out. Then that's how I am. As
soon as I see that, we're falling up. Second second.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But you went in with the wrong idea. You asked
him thought they were your brother, bro.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean I didn't come in industry, you know, right,
I just came into the industry.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I wasn't already. So something you gotta learn.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You think fast food restaurants like you or they like
the money you provide.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's different though, No, it's not. Definitely is because we're
getting money together, you better like them. No, me and
as fast food restaurant ain't getting no money. But I'm
not giving them money. But here's the thing, that's what
they look at. You can't give them no more money.
You see how they did that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You ain't they looking at you and say, well you
you can't break up? No more money.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, that's not cool.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
They want your brothers to begin with, when you were hot,
they were your brothers.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
That's still not cool.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
What you want?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
What are you trying to convince me?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, I ain't trying to convince you. I'm trying to
convince you. You had the and I get it. We've
all been We've all been there. Man, that's my brother.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
We cool, YadA YadA, y'all trying to say I'm taking
it too personal. Yeah, well but you learned though, if you.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
If you video calling me to get some.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
That's a little too personal for me, then yeah, if
you video calling me, look, I know, blueface, Yeah what
you mean.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But see, you had better times out it was, there
was better times.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
No, you don't. You don't forget you like that. You
don't get to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You don't get to two years later, you got a
cool song or whatever, whatever the case may be, and
you just think like.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh you thought y'all were really down.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Huh not even just down, at least down enough for
you not to go against me. Oh okay, surely. Yeah, yeah,
I can mind your business. Okay, But if you feel
they spoke out of pocket.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, you see my girl, or you see something online,
you don't you know, you know, you don't comment. Yeah,
you don't step out your body.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh oh so now, so that's why you want to
glove up. So you want to glove up and sold
your boy in La Chopper. I don't know about Jake Paul.
Jake Paul might be. You know, Jake Paul got real hand,
Nick Young, Yeah, all of them. You try to get
you what you want to catch your faith?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Nah, you too small, dagn oh.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I think Jake Paul a little bit too big.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And Jake Paul about two fifteen by two twenty, I'm
two ten.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't know if you really like that, though, blue face.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm fresh out, man, you see, I'm fresh out.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah. But that that's that's a whole different ball game exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That take a different type of heart.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But I ain't saying that you.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I ain't saying that you ready to get in the
ring with him now? I don't, but I think that.
I mean, I mean, I don't know your skill set
like that.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Man, I'm like that, okay, Like, come on.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Can we start out? Can we start out with somebody
like before you can you work your way up there?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Already two and no, I'm not asking to fight him
my first fight, Shannon. I already been doing this in
the arenas in London.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But I'm saying two fights and you ready to say
to step to Jake Paul.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Might have whooped Nick Kent Man. You know Jake paus fights,
you know, some of them gonna be.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right, Well he getting ready to fight Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, and we're gonna see how the go.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And if anything happens other than what's exactly supposed to happen.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh, you're gonna say something something.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Right, I ain't gonna say nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Are you gonna watch?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Everybody else is gonna say you're gonna watch the fight? Yeah?
I support his fight. I think he's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
He's gotten uh hell of a lot better. He's actually
you can actually consider him a boxer now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I mean, and he's stepping up. I mean Anthony Joshua
is a legiti fighter. He was a former everyweight champion
of the world. Exactly, he won Olympic he won an
Olympic gold medal. He can really he can fight.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, I agree, absoluted.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Now we can see if if Jake can touch him,
because you know it's chatting a little suspect, but he
but if he touched Jake.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Paul, Yeah, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Or if he if he.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Catch it, you know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What's gonna happen if you catch shake?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
For he gonna taste the canvas? Okay, but you don't
think that's gonna happen. What you think is gonna happen?
Give give us your prognostication on the fight.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Go to the judge. Score curd. How preordained? Oh lord,
it's the best way I can say it. It's preordained.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
NLI Chopper NBA Young Boy seemed to have a back
and forth going on, what are your thoughts on that?
You were cool? Are you cool with? You were cool
with NLI Chopper? I don't know if you know NBA.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, I'm spoken with bro for I mean, I
don't know, and at least been asking for it for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So you got beef with that man? What that colored back?
Because he put the phone up there and he got
some brawls because he knew you. And now you feel
in some type of way.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Nah, My only thing the reason I felt talk about
was when he went online and started, you know, defending.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Whoever I was dealing with at the time. You know,
it's like, why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh, you're just trying to jump on the trend, get
a little buzz going. I'm gonna do that game. But
that's how he is and at least kind of like
a clown to this ship. Whatever they say, do be gay,
be muslim, be a, a vegetarian, vegan, he gonna do it. Okay,
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he's going through a lot of phases, that's all he
growing up. But when he looks back, he's gonna realize,
you know, a lot of a lot of these phases.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Were Yeah, he he had a real one.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, and you know I'm going here, he didn't already
went through his phases. So it's like mm hmm. But
as far as the beef goes, I don't know. I
don't know which one's better, Who's I don't even know
what's the beef. So to really speak on it, I
just know in Elie, so I can speak on him.
I know him the really.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Y'all need to get into a room and y'all need
to have this out. We can do that.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, that's very easy to have a conversation. I'll tell
him to his face, bro, what the hell is wrong
with you?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Why are you?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You're upset at the fact that he commented on something
that he.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Shouldn't have just put itself in. Yeah, he interjected himself
when he just picked a sign. I picked a sign
type ship, and you can't never choose the female now
that's weird. Imagine imagine your girl getting into it, right
and I'm and I'm speaking up.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
For your female.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right if you don't slap them when you're right, When
you're right, you ain't wrong.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Man, if you don't shut the up while I'm talking to.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
This young lady. Yeah yeah, young lady. Why do you rappers?
That why you guys have have beef? What causes it?
There's enough women out here for everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The fan, the fans make these rabbers feel like they
gotta do something at certain times where they don't got
to do nothing unless shit play out, and that the
situations don't play out. But the fans, yeah, the fans.
Fans are different right now. The fans are controlling everybody
right now. So it's a little weird.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
It wasn't like that when I was doing my things,
so I ain't got hip to that yet.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Uh, Takashi, you know, with making fun of your task,
Who's you want to box here?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Uh? Yeah? I would love to box him, but he
just got a tattoo on his face. But he's small.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I mean, you keep talking, Yeah, but people want to
see him in pain, you know, for what he done
to the real one, So I would love to be
that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'll tell you I gotta fight for I gotta fight
for you. Who my partner?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oyo oho, not fucking oyo. I've seen your fight though.
He's pretty good. Yeah, he's an athlete.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah yeah, No, Church is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I've seen him get knocked out. I make I
can make a happle.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah you got that.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You won't.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I don't know if you I don't know if you
can go back, and I don't know if you can
rap after. Make you take cameras. You gotta touch her.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm not I'm not the toughest guy in the world,
you know, but I'm a different, different breed man. If
I touch the canvas, somebody else gonna touch the canvas too.
I'm gonna get my ass up, put my hands up. Yeah,
and I'm gonna make sure. I'm gonna make sure it's
even just because I got that dog and me. Some
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people get hit hard enough to where they don't want
to get up, right, You hit me hard enough and
I can't get up.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh, it's bad for you. Should it's bad for you?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Like hold on?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I saw Aaron Garcia almost locked the breath out of you.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Actually, I mean up because I lifted my arms up,
so I kind of like, nah, you gotta put.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah exactly, So I kind of.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Why would you lift them up to give my body shot,
not not to take one.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah's what I'm saying, But why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I thought I was tough.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You just told me you was tough.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, but my liver ain't tough.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I guess it, did you brace?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I started so like I got nervous before he swung,
so I yelled a little bit, so I just opened
it up like so it was like the best. It
was the best thing in boxing that you can hit
somebody like liver shot. Yeah, while they're hair up and
they're not bracing, they're actually like yeah, yeah, shirt, you
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should let him sock you want?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh no, no, you took Aaron the Pumper's girl girl.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
She's on My My Fresh out of Love show. I
ain't know it was this girl until he came out
and made the whole little thing about it. She hasn't
been chosen yet, so I haven't taken her yet.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But if you want to box, the want take her.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
How many fights Aaron.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Have will to take the take the young lady.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Boxing him for no already got her.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I thought you said you didn't have it yet.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
She's at the crib. I haven't chosen her yet as
one of my conky bines. She's there, you know, trying out.
She tried out, applying herself that bag and see this man.
You do realize that, right, yeah? But he You know,
I don't think Aaron's tender like that. It's supposed to
be the plumber.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You stabbed and rob at the gym training right?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
What happened? Did you know? You were you talking?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Just no? Actually it was I remember that day very vividly.
I pulled up to the gym at like nine am.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Training. Uh. I needed some water. So when I parked
in front of the gym, I walked across the street
to this little convenience, a little restaurant type thing, got
a water. I walked out. There was this black girl
on the phone.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
She just kept looking at me, smiling on her phone,
looking at me walking past.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm like, damn, that's kind of where alright, you know?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Way, yeah, I'm thinking as a fan that's always replaced
in my act So I go into the gym boom,
I'm training. Thirty minutes probably a dude walks in with
the dog and he got his little little pocket knife,
you know, clipped on it. Yeah, and he just walks in,
you know, the d It's just a vulnerable moment. You know,
it's early. I just came in. The door's usually locked,
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but you know, at this time it's not locked, just
because of the circumstances. You know, gym ain't open yet.
You want to fight?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Who are you? Don't worry about who I am? You
wanna fight me or what? You like to fight? Big dog?
You like to do this? Do that? Who are you?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Then he starts yelling like, oh you something my girl?
He's with my girl. Well, like, bro, I don't know,
I know nothing about nothing, but yeah, you know, like yeah,
that's literally what I'm saying, Like, don't worry about it, bro,
you want to fight or what. So I'm like, all right, bro,
he's just he's his own one. Like all right, put
the dog up, bro, and we can put some gloves on. Man.
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Come on, like you know I'm training, Come on, nah,
I want to go bare her hands Like oh, he's
going for the full court price. All right, so when
you start doing that, my trainer steps in the middle
of us and he starts talking to him, hold on,
bro like doing too much.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm like, man, I already feel like, you know, like
it's my time now. So I stepped to the side
and I glie, willam dam give him a Colot two piece.
He hit his head like, yeah, I got gloves on. No,
I didn't take my glove. So but I'm I'm feeling
like I'm being pressed, you know. So now I'm just reacting,
you know, to to his actions. So I take my moment. Boom.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
He had to hit the pole. Come back.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Now he starts going for the knight, but he like
backing up, feel me. So at first I'm on him.
He hit the pole. I'm thinking about to fall. But
he hit the pole and come back and he start
going back. I'm like, oh shit, you're finna pull that
knife out on He like I sure have damn pulled
it up, whipped it and put it right behind his
ear and start chasing me like this.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I ain't gonna lie shit, And I was running. He was.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He was chasing me all around the boxing gym like
a maniac. Right, So boom when I back up, like
you're finna pull the knife out? I sure in whoom
where I turned around? I retreat.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I jumped in the ring.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He stabbed me in the That's how he stabbed me
in the legs. I got caught in the rope trying
to get in the ring. Boom, catch me the leg
I'm like, yeah, he's serious, let me stop, let me
run a little faster. You're a little faster. He just
got me right, so boom. When he now I'm in
the ring, he like outside the ring, I'm like, man, jep,
he's trying to scrape me. So as soon as he
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jump in the ring, I jump out the ring. I
run out the gym. This shit like a scary movie shit.
And I'm holding the door like this.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So you think you think the girl that was on
the phone set you up.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I think she was on the phone with him, probably,
and she probably made it seem like, oh, he was
talking to me like he yeah, and that was probably
her dude or something, right, and then you just pulled
up like you know how the dudes are right, do
something to him right now, stop playing me. You know.
She probably like, oh, he ain't gonna do nothing. That's
blue face right. That's the best recollection I can come
up with. Did you know who used to this day?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You don't know who?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It was nothing about this dude. Man, it was like
thirty years old with a turk top on. Well clear
you your hand cut you him flush and it ain't dropping.
I did the pole cotting so as he's going The
only reason I even gave him a breath like to
the only reason he got able to retreat and pull
the knife outah is because the pole caughting. I hit
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him with the left. He's going down.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I'm like, oh yeah, I'm finna get on top of him.
Hey yo, Paul, hey yo, hold up the boom.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
As he going back though it's a pole foun He
hit his head on the pole and now he's like
this and he start backing up, so I start backing up.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Ship.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I should have got upon him, though, I shouldn't let
him pull it out. Should have, you know, But I
had the gloves on.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
So if you if you had dynamite in the banks,
it had been over the pole, couldn't have saved it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Whatever. You ain't got no.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Die anyway, throwing at I'm holding the door barricaded man.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
He's like this like a scary movie. He's trying to
get out, like I ain't letting you out stabbed me?
Hell no, so Boom lines. I'm looking in his eyes though,
he started coming back to life, like the rage is
like slowly he's starting to realize he just stabbed me.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So I'm all right, bro, let you out. Jumping tesla.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Put the dog in a tesla, jumping the car. I'm
socking the windows now, so the gloves start doing me justice. Yeah,
you break the window, busting the window man, So I
bust the window.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
He drives down the street, jump out the car like,
oh y'all.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Didn't see that. I'm like, bro, whoa hold on?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
What?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Whoa whoa?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yes bro? He still show up at the gym. Woa
the squabble. Okay, you hit him with a two piece.
He falls back, but he catches his balance. He goes
in his pocket with the clip on. Boom stabs you
in the leg, chasing, chase you round the gym. You
try to jump in the ring, you get caught in
the rope.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
He leg.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Okay, now you run out the gym. He's inside the gym.
You got a book barricaded in as you see that
glade that was on his eyes that he really wanted
to kill you here, and you see that starting to discipate,
You're like, okay, bro, I'll let your ass out now,
but you need to be chilled. You let him out.
He put the dog in the tesla.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Like.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I started raging now, socking all the windows.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You bustow you drive off, get down the street to
the light and started raving this get out and started
looking in the air like.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
YO, didn't see that he just hit the window. I'm like, bro,
what you just.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Stay down the street? You feel me, you say, call
the police. So I guess some strange way, the fire
truck was driving by, and I'm stabbed. So we waved
the fire truck now and like you know, trying to
pass me up type ship. And then it went from there.
You had to get stitches, yeah, on the inside. And
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now I'm sorry. So he stabbed me, like knife went
in two inches yeah, damn yeah, sorry to get my
tissue stitched up in my skin damn yeah. And I
had to fight. I couldn't fight. Looked at my fight. Yeah,
that was pretty weird, but it's part of life, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I reacted. Whatever happened happened?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Do you uh you had did you fight in prison?
You had any boxing badges in prison?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You undefeated? I mean they any record? Can we can?
Can we verify this?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Uh? If I had to put a record on it.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I didn't have that many fights, to be honest,
but the ones that I did have, I probably say
really like nine, Oh are.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You talking about? Oh you're talking about? You talking about
any ring? Or you talking about ain't no ring in prison?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Or oh you talk? You talk? You you you talk?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah? Got to where else people are gonna start doing
weird ship.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So I wasn't just fighting people just to fight them, right,
you have to like do something to me, like steal
something while I'm not looking.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Okay, or how you know they store talking crazy ship?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You was the last person here, man, We gotta fight man, Damn.
Even if you didn't still it should have. You should
at least know who stole it. You feel me?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You with me?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
So you squabbled, damn now about anything?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Just if I feel they challenge you, if I feel disrespected, yeah,
not just because you want to.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Fight me, but you a celeb in prison exactly. So
that's why I I'm fighting who I want to fight.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
You know, I'm not fighting the small dudes or.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'm I'm fighting you know, not dictating who I'm fighting, right,
I'm dictating who I'm because there's plenty of other people
I got. You want to fight me, all right? Fight
these ten niggas right here, and if you win, you
can fight.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Nobody's winning. I'm a nigga.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You get to fight the final boss first, right, I'm
the final boss.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
How celebrity is treated in prison? Do you get to
be in g pop? Are you insig?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
How? So? They you do a lot of talking to
a counselors and reps and whatnot. And if you if
you tell them you want to go in there, they're
gonna send you in there. A lot of people be
saying they force you or they don't force you. Bro,
you tell them I'm cool with it. Yeah, they send
you in there. And then as far as the treatment,
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everybody treats you like you're not famous in there, because
it's like a now who you ain't nobody you in
here with you for the exactly So that's the treatment
as a celebrity.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Even the police treat you like that.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's prison like life, woul people be asking you for
your food. You're not there like say, hey, you're gonna
eat your corn bread?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
People actually asking for your food. Yeah, what do you
say now, I ain't giving you my food. I'm gonna
eat it.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Depending on how you said and how they take it,
you'll be good.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
How you ask for it. Hey, bro, you're gonna eat that?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I am. Yeah, just like that. You feel me? You
know how to do it, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know when somebody's like you feel like you can
take it, yeah, or when somebody like man he said
he said he's gonna eat it.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I ain't for that, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
But it's not even something no tough shit, it's just
some people just want to eat. You know, if they
see something on your tray that you're not touching, or
you saving like you're not gonna eat that, bro, like
no type shit. You might just be saving it for
the for the end type.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah. So you just like, no, bro, I'm eating this right.
It don't be like nobody trying to bully for tray.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I say, mean, somebody you just oh, you want out
that piece of white bread, knock yourself out.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
But if they feel like they can take it they
will you know, oh will really?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
They feel like, man, you ain't eating that. Yeah. So
prision and jail is all about like it's.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
All about respect man, but you're not respecting the man play.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's all about like masculinity. It's about like, you know,
who's masculine. It's now like so if.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You got you got tell then yeah if you love
like not masculine enough, test you, yeah you can. You know,
everybody know who to try it with.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So you had the tattoos that you had tattoos and
they say, oh he for real?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, then I start getting big yeah, or.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You started puppelar eyes and you a you straight, you
put you up? They got they don't. They took the
wayside in California, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah No, it was no way.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's just push up, said, pull ups, push ups and dips.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's all it took.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And they see you they said, ah, now now we
ain't gonna mess with him.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You know, I got my homies and stuff, so I
was always like it was never like I was messed with.
But once I got bigger, you know, even the homies
start messing with me, like, yeah, bro, you get it
too big.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Tory lanez, he got stabbed? How did he get stabbed?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
If he was?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
He in G Pop?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
So I'm assuming he was, but just on a different
yard tour.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's like fifty percent pop and fifty percent protective custody.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Okay, so those yards are a little bit more stranger,
you know, cause you don't know what you're dealing with
at least and G Pop, you know, this dude's either
a gangster right over there. It's like this dude could
be a gangster snitch all in one, you feel me.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Or pedophile, you know. Like, So if I have to
guess with that situation considered, it just probably but he.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
A small dude, didn't he He like five man, he's.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Not that big.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
But at the same time, you know, it's the dudes
that's not that big in there. They you know, Yeah,
you don't run the wrong one, Yeah, exactly. Like I'm
pretty sure the dude he was into it with wasn't
that big really, but I had to guess it was
probably just some egotistical thing going on, you know. And uh,
Joe has a way of you think people got your
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back until something happens, you.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Know, then you realize for yourself.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So yeah, I'm pretty sure he probably thought people had
his back and he could carry yourself a certain type
of way.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
And this person just you know, tried it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Wow, did you see that?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I don't know if it's Ai but a photo or
you in prison?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh my god? You did?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
They be trying shanning.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I'll be doing everything so correctly that they gotta do
ship like that just to alter the mood.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Just throw it off.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Man, you know that's a man I've seen now. I'm like, wow,
that's that's really okay. Right, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Though.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's all right, y'all gotta go that to them links
to try to debunk my feel me. You can't debunk
this ship. They know that, they know it when they
see it. Do you get to have your hair any
kind of way in prison? Do they make you cut
your hair?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You gotta a lot of people got dreads just because
it's like you can see the growth, right, but yeah, no,
I ain't no hairstuffs.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But I mean, I mean you gotta wash it. You
gotta take care of it.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's why people get dressed, because you don't gotta wash.
You aintta take care of it or cut your shave
it all off us exactly. But they do got barbers
or people that be cutting, you know, hustling five dollars cut,
three dollars cut.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I don't know. You will try, you trust somebody cutting
your hair?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Do they got straight is in there?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
A couple of people? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Now they just got the you know a little ninety
nine oh bit Okay, I was gonna say that's straight
raided boy. No, I don't know, but yeah, I didn't.
Got a lot of people, few people from yeh oh.
They push your edges back too far?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Before you went to prison, you're doing two twenty five.
Now you're doing two seventy five.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Right, Yeah, I couldn't even do two twentybody. Before I
went I was doing like probably like two of five.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Two or five. Now you could do two seventy five
for one.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Two yeah, yeah, probably two. It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, you get it back, you get another one in there,
you might get three fifteen. Yeah, No, that's pretty that's
crazy to me, But I love it. I ain't going back, man,
you ain't going back. You're done, never going back. I've
heard a lot of people say that.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Now you heard this one said I want it done.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
What it done that.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
That made you change that?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
What was it about prison to say I ain't coming
back here because you guess what you said earlier? You
didn't had to worry about no responsibilities. You get too
you get too you get too hot meal, the cold meal,
you gotta shower. You ain't got to worry about.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
No rent.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
That's the perks to it, you know. It's comes to
it and the console outweigh the perks so to that situation.
But no, I was just sitting there and you know,
people acting funny. It's just like, Okay, I would have
did some time for you, you know, yeah, I probably
possibly would have overprotected you and got put in this position,
and seeing you react like this, it's all Okay, it's
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not too.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Many things that's worth sitting here for. Yeah, so let
me chill. Mh shit.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So how much you weigh right now?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm like two ten, two ten. How much did you
weigh when you went in?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
One fifty? Yeah my last fight, I was one fifty two.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
The food musta not been that bad, nah, Little Sutn
Pepper gave sixty pounds, Little Sutn Pepper.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I was I was eating all that shit. I wasn't tripping.
I was asking for your food. Let me get your trade,
bro let me I need it.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
How long did you go sit down? Two years? Two years?
That's what I for you.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I was more than that was the longest, you know,
So I was. I was just enough for you know,
for you to be like, Okay, I could either do
this or can't right, I can't do that. You hear
the story how a Gucci man's his wife. I think
it was his girlfriend at the time. He gave her
two million. Every time that he had cash, she flipped it.
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He came home she had six million. You gave your
baby mama ninety Yeah. Nothing when I came back, damn zero.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
She ain't flipping.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
M hm, no flip.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
What she spending money on?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
No, it's crazy. I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think she just got caught up with her lifestyle.
She tried to blame it on rent and her car
note and whatnot and taking care of the kids. But
she didn't even take my instructions. I gave it her
ninety k and said, look, make this last. So what
I did was I paid her rent for five months
and I gave her forty thousand. So I said, just
make this last because at the time I had a
six month sentence. Right a week later, she doing club hostings,
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bookings and stuff. So she's making money now, right, So
now you got this ninety k on top of five
hundred to ten thousand a weekend. So even after the
six months, it was gone. And I'm looking like, Okay,
you didn't listen to me telling you to just chill
and make this last. You went out and made money
and you still ain't any money. Oh so you was
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just taking advantage that this shit wull last forever.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So when you come home, you like you cut off?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah? Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I mean as far as like companionship and futuristic plans is, no,
I would never be in that position with the same people.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Right when somebody mess over you, you done. You don't
give them a second chance.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
No I do.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
But if I know that as far I was in
prison right now, you wouldn't You wouldn't do right by me. Yeah,
then I'm not gonna give you a chance because that
just shows me that you just use a met him.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
What do you learn about dating?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
You should date as many these people as you can
so you can find out what you like, what you
don't like, and then but.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Not at the same time. Yeah, well, how are you
gonna get somebody? How do you give somebody your undivided attention?
If you dating tend women at the same time.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
You don't never let him have you, king, never let
him have you.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
You ain't try to get married.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah I want to.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I want a female. I can deal with it, though, No,
you can't deal with it right now. It's gonna it's
way worse stuff. And it's marriage that's going to going,
not even as far as woman, just as far as
dealing with me. So if you can't deal with me,
don't gotta be ten women, if you can't deal with
another female, just you know, competing. I'm like a high
school football coach and play the best player is gonna
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start and I'm not gonna micromanage, you know, But when
you start showing up the practice late and you start,
you know, you start not appreciating the team you.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Started playing, but you ain't getting no playing time.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Next onning, come on this playing. She thinks this should
have game second string.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
And you notice that's when they start acting like, oh damn,
you know they gonna start trying out for other teams
and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
They always come back.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
But let me ask you this, how can you be
a better partner?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
M Run a couple of routes for him, you know,
maybe get out there and run a few routes. I
don't got always coach think I should, you know, play
with them. You know, like I said, as long as
you be a coach, I canna get out in the
field with him. You know, Seym, i'm'na play with you.
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I ain't just on the sideline yelling at you.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Why Why are you okay revealing women that you used
to date or deal with dating other rappers or celebrity
Why you okay with that? Why you just can't let
that lie? Why you just can't keep that between you
and her?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Cause she can't keep it between me and her.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
She ain't say nothing. She ain't posted that she did
all this? What you be posted? What you be talking?
Why you do that bluff? She ain't keep it between
me and her? Nine times out of ten, I already
seen the shit. It's already out there Saturday, already too close.
And I'm only putting it out there. If and if
you are putting something out there about me. So if
you gonna go in there line and say I'm this,
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I got a little dick, I'm gay, I'm i'm'a put
the truth out about you, and we gonna see whose reaction. Really,
you know, is reacting because you know people when you
tell the truth about people, they just.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
But you know, but you know a lot of times
when the same like women when they get upset with
a guy, they say he gave or he got a
little small package. And when guys will say she ain't
no good in bad or YadA YadA, YadA. I mean,
they just trying to say things to get a reaction,
to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Right, But I'm not lying. I'm gonna tell the truth
because that's gonna get it. That's gonna hurt you in
get a reaction. You lying is only gonna get a reaction.
It's not gonna hurt my feelings. Right, Like I said,
I'm a reactor. Do you get upset when your exes
talk to other rappers in the industry?
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
So once you done, you done.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Stuff. I can't be like this and be holding court
on no female feel me. I can't just be out
here just nail and shit and then as soon as
you get nailed, I'm like, I don't want to nail
you no more. That's no, that's a little hypocritical. Oh
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my goodness, right, I guess what about you? Have you
introduced any girls to the to the league and introduce
them to that lifestyle, and then they with the next player.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I don't, not that I know of.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure there are women that
I hated.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Would you care?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
No, I'm once and I'm done.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I'm done, but I ain't going back. You would never No, no, no, no, no,
no no, not because.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I'm done, because the next player down.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
No, I mean we broke up for a reason. If
we move, if we move on, we decided to move on.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Just go ahead. Don't do your thing, no, because I don't.
I don't want to know what if it's still something new. No,
you ain't never had no female. I just had your
little heart, your little number.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I had your little you know, but I had to
go back, not necessarily go back where you just had
a little bit more forgiveness in your heart.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Okay, that's why you Lebron. That's cool, baby, Ain't I
still love you?
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Noah, because I would be very disappointed because Lebron is burried,
got some battle, so I would feel some type of way.
But with that being said, no, I'm not. I'm not
going back. You messed with, you mess with.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I don't care. I don't care who it is. I
don't he don't have. It doesn't have to be a
celebrity or entertained or influence or something like that.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
I just I just move on if I get like
that when I get up to Noah, are you married?
Speaker 2 (45:18):
But nah?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
But I've always been I've always been like that, even
when I was when I was your age. You move on,
be with somebody else. I'm I'm I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Did you have multiple women when I was young?
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah? I got three kids, difference three? Nah, you get
no proud of that. I because if I could do
it all over again, I would have three from one. Yeah,
me too, but you know you wouldn't work. You probably
have you probably have five from five.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I mean I'm three for two. Man, I'm doing better
than you.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
You you do better, you know better. You do that too.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
S all right.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Now, But chrisnon, what was it? What is what is
it about her?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Because y'all have y'all little issues, y'all go back and forth,
But for the longest time, you just couldn't seem to
goe to y'all couldn't get each other out of y'all system.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah, Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
I feel like the beginning kind of set us up
for a certain type of expectations, and neither of us
was that person that we expected us to be, so
just became a frustrating thing.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
I want to say, why you.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Gotta all put your relationships out there in the public?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
You like, why, I know what's going on? Man, You know,
it's if it's out in public, I ain't gotta worry
about it. She cheating, they gonna tell me.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
But a lot of times people throw stuff out there
just because they don't want to see you happy.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, but I know it's really it's not Get that
little dm a baby over here, a little baby house
right now in the back room, you feel me?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Has that ever happened?
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Not necessarily like that, but yeah, Like you know, the
fans will put you up on game about your girl.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
They'll let you know her past, her present, what.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
The past thing got that? I mean, come, look, past
ain't got nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I want to know though I got a little bit
too much, too much going on. You know, I'm a
little high value. I consider myself a high value man.
Does a woman have a right to know your past? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I put it out there. She can know whatever she
want to know.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Why you want? Why I'm asking for what I want
to know? Let me ask you a question. What is
it that you want to know?
Speaker 1 (47:35):
You want to know with the guys or the number
of guys, the names or the number or both.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
No, I don't care for the for the name or
the number, but how many how many rappers have you
slept with? What's their names?
Speaker 1 (47:49):
So that way?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Why you need to know all that for future preferences?
P I nah, Just you don't know who gonna come
out and say so. I'd rather you let me know
as long as they ain't do it. Why you got it?
Why you care?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
I don't if you tell me, no, they ain't gotta
tell you. I just did sold your boy like that.
I can't do that. Just he didn't even know if.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
His girl his young lady.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Didn't know, so when I told him, he was But
that was before soldier. It's still hurt his feelings. I
don't want to be that guy. Let me know, baby,
So that way, when even if you know, I don't care,
it's not gonna stop me from with you. But but
you look at it a different light, you can't. You're
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not gonna take a serious No, I still think you're serious.
I don't care. It's just from from my knowledge.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
So I put your mind at ease just so I know.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Like, if there's gonna be a bump in the road,
you know, let me know before it gets bumpy. Like
if you if you dealt with a female, she with
another NFL player, you wouldn't want to know. Just know
what you No, I don't ask no questions. You're different man.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
You deal the way I look at it. You dealing
with me now? An have I gonna have a problem
if I did.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
You don't want a nigga at the game? He targeting
you and ship You're like, damn, why is this hitting
me after the player every day?
Speaker 3 (49:20):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
If he targeted me after the play, I'm saying, you
don't want another you don't want to be up to
knowledge just based on I don't have to. It's not
gonna dictate whether you deal with her or not. The
only time, the only time your high value man, you
should I do the only.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Time I've ever asked if I'm dealing with someone that
have a child, I need to know what type of
what type of guy that I'm gonna be dealing with
exactly because you know, hey, I understand his best interest
is the child, and I understand that and everybody and
I don't. I don't meet everybody's I don't meet everybody's
kids until it's an extended period of time. But I
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just want to, you know, because I need to know
what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
That's how you look at it. I look at it
a different spectrum, you know, maybe because I'm younger. Yeah,
But it's not to determine if I'm with you or not.
It's more or less to determine who's gonna come after me.
You okay, because I'm with it with you, No, I
ain't with it. I believe how you're gonna leave, You
don't know, but I'm hey, but that's that's the thing,
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because you know you're gonna leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because
I'll you are better not knowing type yeah yeah, yeah,
because it's two.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Different type of people, people that want to know, and
people that.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Don't, they go cause a problem place.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
It's gonna cause the problem because you the fir first
of all, like you said, you're you're you're known commodity,
and so they always gonna feel and let's just say
it's not somebody in the industry. It might be someone
that's not in the industry when he's gonna feel like,
oh blue face, think because he is, or think because
he that he can YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, I mean, I just want to know who in
my lane. I know, if it's a ball player NFL player,
I don't do it. But if he raps, let me know. Okay,
I don't long hearing it long.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
He can be a hooper, he could be catch the ball,
he could do baseball whatever, as long as he ain't
in my profession.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
There you go. That's a better way to say. Okay, okay,
And it's not gonna stop me pro working with you.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
It's just gonna help me know what type of person
I'm dealing with, okay, And what type of people you
deal with. No, you need to learn Lady circles man
type of even with her friends. You don't check you
check phones. No, you tpp brother dog on check, Baby,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I ain't got no key. You got a key to
your girl place? You haven't had a key to your
girl place? Yeah, I never used it, but I ain't
at it.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
But it's just it's just a mentality thing.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
You know. You want a girl, that's that's got the
right mentality, right. These girls don't got the right mentality.
They just they mirror what you do, trying to suck
your dry.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
I don't know. They ain't mirroring me. I ain't sucking nothing.
They doing what they do.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, did you did you fight with y'alls dad.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
First?
Speaker 2 (52:04):
But that's the old man. You can't fight people, dad.
If they hit me, I'm gonna reactor saying that's the
old sir. I said all of that, all of that literally,
I didn't. I had no intentions of hitting him. Fighting,
just walk away. It was to walk away after somebody
hit you in the face.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
That's the old man. It hurt, that's it hurt. I
think it hurt your pride that too. It ain't hurt me, man,
And think you just wanna I'm gonna walk away.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
But that's your that's your girl dad.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
He ain't my daddy. Ship.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
He's your girl?
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Dad? How you?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
How you?
Speaker 2 (52:48):
How is your girl gonna look at you knowing that
you beat.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Her dad up?
Speaker 3 (52:52):
I'm hurt daddy, Now that's.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Lord?
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Now whooped your dad asked? I'm that?
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Do you see the online drama that your exes have,
some of your exes have. Do you tell that y'all
need to cut y'all need to squash that? You ever interveaning?
Speaker 3 (53:13):
No, I don't know. That's that's a man. I don't
micro manage.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
That ain't micro managing. That's just like, hey, come on,
y'all don't need to.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Do that is micro managing. Once I let people can
do what they do. That's that's how I do it.
You do You can do it every want. You can
go to fucking Compton to night. I'm not gonna say nothing.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
So you ain't play no role in anything.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Huh uh? After me? No, while I was in jail.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Nope, they still trying to blame me for shit while
I was in jail. I've been in jail two years.
I shouldn't be to blame for everything. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Do you believe hurt people? Hurt people? Because I'm trying
to figure out, you know, hey, maybe you need to
talk to. I'm the wrong guy to talk to. But
I'm basking what happened? What woman? Women, women, woman, one
man or women did something to put you in this
frame of mind.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
I don't know. Probably my mom, my sister, you're sister
older than you. Starts with your family.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah, so you saw, you saw a lot of you
saw your mom had a lot of different men earlier,
and so you, like you thought that was no.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
I just thought that women weren't. You know, that's upstanding
as as these guys think. Right, So you should definitely
be in it for what you're in it for. And
because that's You're not gonna get hurt like that, you know,
because I want to with you. There's nothing you could
do to type thing. If I'm with you because I
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think I'm the only person you want, then I'm kind
of sacrificing myself for manipulation.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Psychology gave so you okay being with someone knowing that
they're potentially seeing someone else other than you.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, if I'm doing it, how can I not be
okay with that? I don't know how to be like that.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
I don't know how to have ten different women and
be with tell one of these women that she can't have. Whoever,
whoever's you know that doesn't necessarily have to be the
one I'm choosing. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna choose the best,
the best player gonna play. Do your mom know you
feel this way that she might have played a role
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in how you are as a man. Of course you
talk to her, body, tell her all the time. What
did she say, I'm not a huh, I wasn't doing this,
I wasn't doing that. She mind, she got three kids
and three baby dods. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (56:02):
Mistakes happen, you feel he's Look, she's y'all in the
same boat. But for a man, it's different than for
a woman.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah, which society says, Yeah, women are judge that judged
at a different level and a different standards. I don't
think that's the case now because women women have tried
to take some of that. Police say, I could do
just as what a man.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
Can, and it's the met too effect right now, he
could do it, I could do it too.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
You want to heal? You ever go be in a situation?
Can you ever be in a situation where it's just
you and your partner?
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, if I have a partner. That's so I feel
like it takes a partner to make you better. You know,
it takes them dealing with some ship and still being
a good example for you to you know, I don't
think men meet women and don't cheat on them. If
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you know, it takes her to like deal with you're
cheating and then you realize you're really hurting their feelings
and she's being enduring it and.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Taking it like a real woman for you to stop.
M h, what do you think? Everybody's got somebody? Everybody
got somebody? Yeah, like prior, Oh yeah, yea, yeah, everybody's
gotta num yeah. Yeah, everybody has somebody. It's just the
wet extent. My grandpased to say that he was a
firm believe everybody has somebody.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
It's just the wet extent. Married, fiance, uh, you know,
hook up, nigga, whatever the case may be. Everybody has somebody.
It's just a wet extent exactly.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
So it takes a strong individual to get you off
of those people, and it takes them to deal.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
With it, right, they get even okay, you can't get mad, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
You can't get mad, but they're not dealing with it.
You feel me. It's not gonna stop you. If I
cheat on you and you.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Cheat back, we even, she gotta look back, we even now.
You can't be mad, I can't be mad. So now
I'm about to go for somebody else. No, no, no, no,
it's not that I'm staying one up. It's just you're
not you're not feminizing me. You look at some woman
till I get your feelings. You know, women women win
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the filling game. They don't win the me two games.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
If a woman can't penetrate your feelings, she don't really
mean nothing to you.
Speaker 4 (58:22):
What caunse you not?
Speaker 1 (58:23):
You're not investing anything into that woman, So therefore you don't.
You're not gonna invest because you don't want to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
I've invested in all of my women.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
No, you ain't investing nothing. You ain't investing nover time
where you can start to stop by and drop the package.
I can move on.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
No, I didn't really built these women up, Like.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
What's your most what's your most valuable possession?
Speaker 3 (58:47):
Probably my dick. You'm gonna lie, man, that's the only
thing I can hold every night.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
I was, I was hoping. I was hoping. You say,
the restaurants the.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
Only thing you can hold every night when restaurant gone, shing,
I still got my dick.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
The restaurant is gonna be gone, you said, doing good.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
I'm saying, if I lose it all tonight, I still
got my dick. Oh, Lord, have mers that's real ship.
That's not valuable. Sing.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah, I beg Hey, what's your.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
Most valuable possession?
Speaker 2 (59:22):
My family?
Speaker 3 (59:26):
You don't really possessed that though.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
That's I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't really
have anything like like super Bowl rings and things like that.
I don't really value it. Was great, that's an accomplishment,
and I'm very proud of what I was able to accomplish.
But I don't really look at that. I mean, the
thing that means the most of me. I guess I
should have asked what means the most of you? No, no,
because that would hurt me the most if I were
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to lose as a family. I don't care about know
what super Bowl rings and no jersey.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
I think if you lost your dick it was hurt
a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
I'm just saying, brother, hear what I'm saying, if you
was walking around here with no dick, but you want
to live, I.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Feel something kind of way, But I ain't trying to
leave here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
You can live with everything but your dick.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I canna live without that too.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
No, you can't.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
You think hold on so if if if, if it
went away, you don't want to live.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
No, he don't know anybody else like that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Nah, you by yourself. I'm gonna go get breakfast every morning.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Nobody got off myself because I ain't got no package.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
No, I ain't gonna offer myself. But I'm saying, I
ain't gonna be ain't gonna be happy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I mean, we ain't come on, you got you gotta
you gotta work with other things.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
We ain't come on this way to not be happy.
Put it on this.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
You gotta work. You gotta work with other things.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Practices. Man, we ain't you don't work with other things.
You got hands, you know, work with other things. Keep
yourself happy.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I can't believe you, bro, I can't believe you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I'm telling me you walking around here with no dick
and be fine with it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I didn't tell you that. That's crazy. I'm sure there
are people in the world that you know. Well, let
me ask you a question. What if you had one
but it didn't work. Is that because I used it
up or I'm older? It doesn't matter, it doesn't work.
It don't matter.
Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
If the car got seven hundred thousand miles on it,
it just won't crank anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Or you gotta limbit, it don't matter.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
We're gonna, We're gonna keep. We're gonna We're gonna keep
it in the shop man, We're gonna keep. We're gonna
stand to the hood. We gonna keep baby. Baby, just
keep sucking baby. I don't know what's going on on.
Motherfucker gonna work one day. I ain't gonna give up, though.
I ain't gonna give up with my dick.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Shening. I see, my dick can't never give up on me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Why'd you make your page private when you got out
of the prison.
Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I don't know. I kind of wanted to be private.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
How you privately? You stay out all the time, everybody's
seen your ass.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
I know that's why I took it off.
Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I thought about it, and I was like, damn, you know,
people can't tag you and ship put you on their
story and whatnot. So I was like, it probably wouldn't
be as beneficial.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
As I thought.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
What have you learned about fame?
Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
I learned that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Gotta gotta know how to manage it, you know, we
gotta learn how to when you log out those apps,
log out of that, you know, lock out of that.
That that state of mind when you go home you're
not famous, you know, it's fame addicted.
Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Mm hmm, yeah. Probably.
Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
I noticed a lot of people like when they get
a little buzz little moment, they like harp on it.
So claud was definitely addicted. So hello a drug.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
What would you do if you weren't famous? If you
walked out of here today and for the next for
the rest of your life, nobody knew who you were,
You just some guy walking down the street. How would
you feel.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
If I had money, I'll be happy, But if I
was broke, I wouldn't be happy. Like if I had
the money without the fame. Yeah, you take the fortune,
it's not much be a better life. Sure, you said
you're never going back to prison again. How do you
want to be remembered when it's all said done, fifty
(01:03:35):
sixty years from now? How do you want people to
remember Blue Face just real, you know, I am Iron,
just being real, just keeping it real, not necessarily like
a overly you know, just enough to where it's like,
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all right, he ain't lying if he said it, yeah happened. Yeah,
I believe. I believe. I believe everything.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
That's how I would to go out and if Blue
Face said that ship it happened.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I saw your the viral video of you telling d
D g uh giving them advice about kids because they
had a simple situation with his child's mother, you know,
going back and forth. Hopefully everything got resolved with that.
But what what what were you hoping to accomplish? What
were you trying to accomplish in that situation? Well, telling
them yeah mm hmm, just being honest with them, you know,
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the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Like I said, Uh, If if anybody's living the truth
and they can god the next person, that's a great thing,
you know, whether it's good or bay like, if you
can Hey, look man, I know you think it's gonna
be like this, but this is my experience, and you know,
experience is the best teacher. Yes, So if you could
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tell somebody your experience and they still go through with
it and.
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
It has to be a lesson learned through that, Yeah,
because asking what our consequence is? No lesson can be
learned no matter the experience if there's not a lesson learned.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, I agree, I learned all my lessons. I ain't
no done man, as soon as I peep it and
I learned it, right.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I have a habit of breaking things down a little
too too much to where I want to know why
you do the things you do, what makes you do it?
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Why did you? What did he say?
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Why you care? Because I like to know what made you,
what made you, what got you? You know, not necessarily
to be mad about it, just to know, like, okay, you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Be asking it wouldn't be saying he'd be asked. We
ask us some weird ass question.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I like to study people body language, you know, the patterns. Okay,
you got a tendency to do this more than that.
When I say this, you react to it like that. Hmmm,
feel me? You reacting like this?
Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
All right? You know, I don't know. I just like
to pay attention. How many rings you got?
Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Three?
Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
That's nice?
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Well you're we went back to back ninety seven, ninety eight,
and then and then we won two thousand. That's how
long it's been.
Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
I've been retired, coming on twenty over twenty years, two decades.
Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Martin Luther King was at your game, actually.
Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Died a couple of months before he was assassinately a
couple of months before I was born.
Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Duglas was at the game. And who you was playing
with back then? You had I love that helpt on.
Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Man, I just can't believe you, blue face. I mean,
we have a good interview with this bad after rip.
Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I gotta get you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Man, you've been keeping a little two p for the
interview many three women, with all of this great.
Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Things instilled in you? Why you ain't married?
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Why I'm not married?
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Because woman?
Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Man, you know what, let me tell you why. Because
when I was playing, football was the most important thing,
and I was never because I was never gonna, I
could never give her what I gave football. And it's hard.
And so I started in television and I worked and
worked and worked, and I can never give somebody the attention,
(01:07:14):
the focus, the love that I gave TV because I
wasn't good at TV at first. I had to get
good and I had to work and work and work
and work and work and and that's that's been my
that's been my biggest problem because what I worked at
to be good at football to what I worked at
to be good at.
Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Media, I never put that kind of same time into
a woman and.
Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
So basically what I'm gathering from this together, cheated yourself
out of life years you ain't experienced half should I experienced.
You have a tig of fence with the kids and
an admination.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
That when I would be mad and I give myself.
Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
You know, looking for somebody to take change your day.
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
No, I don't need no, I don't need no hospit's wife.
Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
That's what I'm saying. Though you're giving all the fun
years away to nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
I have given a lot of yet because I don't
take vacations.
Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Come on, I don't do I don't do a whole lot. Yeah,
I'm gonna change. I'm gonna change twenty six, twenty six.
Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
We've changed together, blue face changing.
Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I'm going somewhere. I'm going on vacation. I'm going to
an island. Ain't nobody gonna know it, ain't gonna be
on the internet.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
All right, You're gonna have a lady with you.
Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yeah, you think I'm going to a damn island by myself.
Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Well you talking cast away. I don't know, I don't
know want to be, you know, with a fifty seven
year old man on.
Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Hey, I know, but I got one. You asked me
all these questions on the internet.
Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
They ternet. Can you ask me a hundred questions? Baby
Mama's yeah, that's what happens at President. I can't get
to know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Shennon on sh call me out. I'm gonna call you.
Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I call you a blue face.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Ladies and gentlemen, all my life.
Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pad the price, wanta slice?
Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Got the brother?
Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
Did all my life, I've been grinding all my life.
Look all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle,
pad the price, and want a slice?
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Got the brother the dice safe? All my life. I've
been grinding all my life.