Club Shay Shay - Claressa Shields Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underweight.
Have you ever been pressured to have cosmetic surgery.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
This past year with all the judging and all the
people trying to say that I'm fat or trying to
body shame he or whatever, Because in camp I got
a six pack and I'm really you know, cut up
and stuff. But then out of camp, I don't mind
having a little stomach or whatever. I don't mind. I
don't mind that. But when I see if people judge

(00:31):
me and saying that I should get stuff done. People
actually get my nose done with I think my face.
I think my face is perfect. But these are just haters. Yeah,
you gotta understand people saying this stuff. But with me,
I would love to. I heard that when you go
and get these body surgeries done, that sometime you go
on there, they fix your body up to get and

(00:51):
get the fat off, and then you come back and
you thirty pounds smaller, but you got to let your
body heal for months or whatever the case may be. Yeah,
and you me hearing that be like, h ain't gotta
work out to lose thirty pounds. If I can go down
a few more weight classes and win some more titles.
But in my mind, it's like I'd rather work it off,

(01:12):
you know, and do that instead of being cut on
and whatever the case, because I'm really scared of knives,
they needles. I don't know how I got tattoos, but
I'm really scared of that. So that's the pressure there
when they come judging you about your size. But I'm
happy with my side. This body doesn't bother me. They
don't bother me. But these girls be looking cut up.
They're going to get their abs done now. I mean,
girls don't even work out be having better abs than me,

(01:34):
and I'd be like, god, leeve, what's going on? But
then you know, you got these filters and everything else,
do body shaping whatever. And I've always been just a
person just to give it to you how it is.
You know what I'm saying. So I'm going to continue
to be like that. I just know that for my
next fight, I'm gonna cut up. I'm gonna come more.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So what wait, I believe one seventy five, so you
mean or or you only want to got that's ten pounds.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Or one sixty eight because they got some girls who
got belts down there.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Who you want to take. So you don't want nobody
to have no belts.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, they can have something. Just if they called me out,
I'm like the bookie woman. I'll show up. Some girls
been calling me out, but I already called them out before.
But they didn't want to fight. But now I guess
they want to fight now.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
So they got courage.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now, hoy, liquor courage.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I guess you're the first woman to make a million
dollars from a boxing back. Well, you got to meet
when you got that money. What was the first thing
you did? You buy something space for yourself? You get
something real nice.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
When I well won. Just to give you a little,
just a little history, when I lost right before the
Olympic tournament in China, I lost the Savannah Marshall. Okay, see,
God got a funny way of humor because I made
my first million beating up who Savannah Marshall, And I
beat her up up in the UK. You're fronding twenty
thousand of her fans in the UK at the Old

(02:53):
two Arena and I made a million bucks. Left with
a black eye, but she left with her face marked up,
no beltucked up. Yeah, yeah, I live real pretty good.
But she was a knockout artist who though thirteen and
oh twelve knockouts whatever. I went there and showed her
how to how to rerually fight. So with that, when
I got my first million, I think I bought me
a camaro A twenty twenty two. Yeah. I don't think

(03:19):
I spent a lot of money like that. I'm more
of a saver. So I went and bought the camaro
I went and got my kitchen redone in my house
that was in Flint.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Was practical, I said, you was practical with your money.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I didn't just like splurre it. I've always helped
family with this or with that. But I probably spent
out of that million. I probably spent like maybe seventy
eighty K the first month or two, and then after
that I kind of put the rest of the money
up right.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
But you know, when you get money, you know that
brings a lot, That brings a lot, especially family. Yeah,
come from a family that you know, Hey, I'm very
fortunate that my brother played. It's only three three of us,
my brother and my brother and my sister.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know, Yeah, you just help induct him in the
Hall of Fame, right, I saw that.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I saw that it had, But it's hard because they
see and then everybody got this idea. They got a business,
they want to open up a business, they need X,
Y and Z.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm like, bro, so, how hard is it? How hard
is it to say no, it's not hard now, But
it wasn't personal.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, it was very hard at first because you feel
like you want to help everybody and you want to
believe in everybody dreams, you know. But it just like, ah, nah,
now I'm I'm saving my money for my future family.
And also too, so my sister has three kids. Yeah,
and me and my sister are very close to her.

(04:42):
Kids are like are like my kid kids, So I
got to make sure that I got, you know, college
money for them. So when it comes to that, I
haven't had my own kids yet, but when I do,
they're going to far right in line with that. And
kids are expensive. Yeah, and nah, I just want four.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Now, you you do realize that's still a lot of
kids in today's time.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Hey, I got a seven bedroom house thirty minutes from here.
I think we'll be like you in all the Yeah,
we're gonna have kids.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
One of the kids can be in a room right
there next to mine in the other room and the
other room. They didn't go downstairs another room down there.
So yeah, it's fine. I don't mind it.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
But I mean, at some point, uh, how old are
you not thirty thirty?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I mean, so at some point in time, it's gonna
you're gonna have to start, you know, thinking about it,
like okay, gloves hanging the gloves up.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, but oh no, you're gonna You're gonna you're gonna
have babies and then come back and fight.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes, I gotta get all the fighting. I mean before
I stop fighting. I'm being jail. Yes, Like right now,
I'm in a space where I like to steal to
still fight, right you know. I feel like in my
career it's like, yes, I've won nineteen world championships, Yes,
I'm five different way classes for time on disputed all
this stuff, but it's like it's still some butt out

(06:01):
there need to get kicked, you know, And it's like
I want to kick these girls butt and then I
think everything. Then I can maybe train some kids, because
I'm training my niece right now and my nephew, so
it's like I can train some kids and kind of
live through them. But right now I'm living through myself
and these girls can get it right now.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You tried MMA, you said, MMA.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I tried it. I was good at it.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, but you get two and one.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, you're two to one.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Would you try it again? Would you go back into
it again? Or would you you good with the boxer?
You're gonna stick with the boxer.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, I make millions to do a job that I'm
the greatest at. Right, so I'm not going back to may.
I won't make it two hundred k, which is it's
a lot.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, but two ain't more than a million.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And I had to train six months for each fight,
so take come away to my family. Just six months
of nothing but groundwork to get ready for one fight. Listen, MMA,
I give it out to them girls. Y'all got it.
Y'all got it. If y'all want to see me, come
in boxing. But I went over there and I fought

(07:06):
under their rules. I was able to win two fights
and I lost one split decision. I got me a
knockout over there. But hey, and I got some of
the best fans too. But it's just it's not enough
time today. Had I started training when I was seventeen boxing, Oh,
I started doing MMA training at the age of eleven

(07:28):
like I did boxing. Oh man, what is you crazy?
I think I would. I always said all I need
is two years of nothing but MMA training, nothing but
just no like no boxing, nothing but MMA training and
sparring and fighting. I believe that I could win a

(07:50):
MMA championship in the PFL or the or the US
or the UFC, but I don't. I don't have two
years to do that.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, what about w E would you do?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
W Yeah, Bionca and Jay cro give them all my girls,
maybe Trinity. I'm like, I'm in contact with all them girls,
me and Me and Bianca said that we're gonna do
something one day. So yeah, I know that I want
to have a life in MMA. I don't know how long. Wow,
I know that it's possible. I actually have an interview
with Stephen McMahon four days up in New York, so

(08:24):
I look forward to seeing her there and maybe we
can get something together. She actually gifted me a w
W belt. Wow, I have one in my house.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
You see a lot of MMA fighters, Connor McGregor the
most noted, I mean fault Floyd one hundred million dollars,
and we see some of these MMA fighters wanting to
do boxing because the money obviously ain't no boxer going
to MMA under their rules. It's a whole it's a
whole different ball game over there. It's a lot easier
for a box for an MMA fighter to do boxing. Yeah,

(09:01):
how big of a payday do you think you can
get in women's boxing? I know the fight that you won't.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I know the fight that you won't, and you believe
you could get fifteen to twenty million.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Dollars more than that.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
But why you want to beat up doctor? She she
forty seven.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
No, I want to get something clear. Like I was
telling you from the beginning, you talk trash to me,
I talk trash to you. I feel like we should fight.
She has said plenty of time that she feels she
can knock me out. I'm not skilled enough, I'm not
talented enough whatever, right, right, And she can feel that way.

(09:35):
But when you say it, and you and then you
said it with such conviction, right, and you're just and
I definitely knock her out, right. She can't do this,
she can't do that. She's not this, she's not that.
All I'm saying is I think we should prove it.
I don't think it should be a thing of a

(09:55):
disc back and forth for it. It's more of an
I think I'm better than you. Ain't you better than me?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Somebody got to be right, somebody got to be wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, And she the one said that she would make
the fight happen. That she said the money was there,
the fight it happen. But honestly too, it's other I
got bigger fish to Fried then than Laila, right, But
it's more of I entertained the fight because she says
she would beat me. It's not me calling her out
because oh she she's old and all that stuff. It

(10:24):
was like, wait a minute, she said she'd knock me out.
She said she better, she had better fighter than me.
That's what that was. And she said she can come
out of retirement and she could do it. So all
I'm saying is, it's.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Been two decades of probably shinnce he fault right, a
decade at least a decade and a half.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, But when I'm retired a decade and a decade
and a half, You're not gonna hear me saying how
I can beat these young girls unless I'm really to
come back out to do it. So that's my thing.
People think it's it's about something else. It ain't about
nothing else but that she said she can beat me,
I said she can't. We should fight. That's it. I
don't think you should go.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
You ain't gonna keep going back and forth. Are you
done with it? Are you done with the verbal sparring?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
No? I think that I haven't seen the latest stuff.
Whatever that stuff is that she did. I heard about it,
I haven't seen it. I've been focused on, as you know,
I'm a free agent, and I've been focused on walking
in my next deal for my next couple of fights.
Form millions of doubts. Yeah, I'm trying to lock that in.
I've been negotiating with people, anybody you can think of

(11:31):
who got boxing money, seeing who's come with the best
deal and the best opportunity for me and my family.
So I haven't been paying attention to that.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
But that you were.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
You know, she was a roll model of Yaard and
she's given you some great advice about how to build
your brand and things like that. She posted things, and
you were very complimentary of her. You were, And I
don't know where the splait invent an acrimony or whatever term
you want to use. I don't know where it came from.
You said that, she said that you weren't that. I

(12:07):
think you said that something You weren't that skill and
she would do X, Y and Z and she could
beat you.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, But like I said, I think a breakfast club interview,
they asked her what she came my retirement, and she said,
there's no one who inspires me or who would give
me a good challenge. So she wanted to talk about me.
Talking about everybody right who's boxing, She said, listen, there's
a lot of girls there. They y'all good, but none
of them are good enough to give me a good

(12:35):
challenge for me to come back out of.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
But you, but you right now, you and Michael Jordan
to boxing.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well tell her that. But I wasn't supposed to take
that any any kind of way. That's what you said that.
She said that I took wrong, oh, which it was like,
how can I take that wrong? You? You?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
You said it you the Lebron James leboxing.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, and you said there's nobody good enough that can
give you a challenge to make you.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
You say, I can't even give you a challenge, let alone.
But you said I can't even challenge you. And I
got all these belts I'm under.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So back then, whenever that interview was, which was years
and years and years ago, that is what started it.
And all I did was say, like, if she thinks
that she can just come my retirement after and I
fight me, me after not fighting all these years, and
beat me. She in for a rude awakening, right and
at this time I loved her, you know what I'm saying.
And I had her phone, I had a number in

(13:28):
my phone it's big cus Leila. So it's like now
at this point, I'm thirty years old. Now I think
it's beat mcgondond since I was twenty three, twenty four.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, I think you're trying to put it in bed.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, listen, I'm cool with that. It's other I got
bigger fish to fry. Who's actually active? Who actually want
to get in the ring? Did I say active already?
Like these girls really want to one of the fans,
right and right now, I'm like the cash cow. So
you fight against me, you get paid the most money

(13:59):
that you ever paid, right, And I'm trying to make
the most money, so I don't really care about a
fight with me. And her. I just caught her buff
when she said the fifteen million. I just made sure
that we had it, and I said, hey, we got it,
what's up? And then I guess that's what led to
this latest thing. People told me that it was a
hate documentary and I haven't. I haven't. I haven't listened

(14:21):
to it yet, and I don't think that I am
gonna listen to it because I have bad things to
do with my time. But other than that, Miss I
ain't got nothing against her, man, I don't. I just
don't think that she can be me in a fight,
and she think that she can, and it ain't never
gonna be able to happen because.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Because as time goes by, she's getting older, and you
know you're gonna want to send that self down. You
say you don't mind. You know you would come back
and fight after you have kids. But if she's getting older,
she ain't gonna be fighting. No fifty question, yes O.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Jo say, Shannon, I got fifteen million for you to
fight against me and the ring. What you're gonna say
to Ocho.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
It might just be nightcap.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
With unc What I'm saying. You either got a yes,
yes or no.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
You don't got all this, but see, but see, I
think the thing else who.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
You got beef with somebody who somebody you don't like you?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I don't want to say, but they know.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay, all right, so so they know. So this person
come and.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Say three and there will be no money eat no money.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay. So this person come and say, hey, man, I
got fifteen million for me and you to fight.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
What you gonna say, I thank you for fifteen dollars?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes, well that's that's how easy. I feel like this
conversation was. I don't think all the extra stuff in
whatever is needed.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Honestly, who's an exhibition fight that that that we can
get Clarissa to fight?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Who in an exhibition we can get somebody.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's hard to make exhibition fighting women's boxing. Man, it's
hard because these you know, you're not gonna get a
YouTuber who just be fighting on in there and this
you're gonna come and fight against me, right because my accolade.
You know who I am. You know, I feel like
everybody is about to protect their brand type of deal.
So I don't I don't know, like I wanted to

(16:09):
fight against him and the nounas in boxing. Yeah, I
feel like that would be a great fight.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah right, Christine Cyborg?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Who?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Cyborg?

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Who?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, Now let me think about somebody else who I
think can actually get inside of the ring and like fight.
I look at the cross branding of it. Maybe a
batty some of those girls he fighting on baddies like
Ivory one of them. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
But those girls they can't bang for real, Chlorista not No.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I mean, now who can bang like me? And boxing? Like?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
But like you said, I mean, it's it's got to
be like there's a realistic chance. I ain't saying they
can beat you, but it's got to be more than
more than twenty seconds.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I mean, well in that case, I don't know up
in that case, but I mean it's it's it's girls
who I think about. Like I said, Amanda new Nest.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
What if we get a YouTuber guy that's not Jake Paul.
What if we get a YouTube guy?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh yeah, of course, of course old on Sorry, of course, Jake.
Listen Jake Park and always get it. Always tell him
that he can always get it.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Why would you try to fight a mans.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
He talked too much? That's why listen Jake Pott know
that I won't smoke with him. I'll tell him that listen,
listen to and him could just spart. We didn't even
got to fight with no cameras. I just want to
show him look what I Look what I'll do to you,
big man.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
You upset that Javonte is gonna fight Jake.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Paul, I'm not upset about that.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You think he should fight, Yes, get the bag.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Get the money, But I always think you can fight
against some mye Roach and sch Cour and t O
and Jevin Haney.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Do you believe Lamart Road to beat Javonte?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now, if you count the knockdown, I always had to
fight you went the other way. Yeah, but the fight,
if you want to give it a draw, I feel
like Lamont took his foot off the gas at the end,
So I'm not mad about the decision. But the thing
is I want you to understand about my take on
Tank is this. I'm a boxer, but I'm a boxing fan.

(18:16):
I just want to see you fight against the best dudes.
I want to see you fight against a dude who
disrespected you, who talked bad about you. You know, say
that you ain't that good. Go in there, improve your greatness.
That's all it is with me. I don't really have
nothing against Tank. Like we had a back and forth
probably about about a year ago or something like that,
but that's like I've been knowing him since I was

(18:37):
a kid, since we were like sixteen fifteen, you know
what I'm saying. So it's nothing like like that. You
know what I'm saying. People think that I got something
against Tank, like I think when he came here on
social media and I came at him whatever he said
to me, I said a bad shit back to him too,
So it was a back and forth, but it was

(18:57):
more like as far as and now when I say
what I'm saying, it's like Tank is a powerhouse. He's
a great fighter. I want him to find a way
to manage whatever is going on up here and live
out to his legacy.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Who you wanted to fight? You wanted to fight him?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Everybody fight? Listen, fights your corps fight to a female fight,
Devin Hainey, fight on.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
I think Loman didn't Loman Chink over retire you.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I haven't heard that, did he?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think Loanchink retire?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Wow? Why you know that?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
But that's what I want to see. I missed the
glory days where the best fault the best. That's what
I missed.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
And I think that if he understands that, he will
understand that it's not a thing about me coming at you, bro,
It's a thing about me wanting to see the best
fights because I'm a boxing fan and I just want
to see it. Like it's terrify, it's terrified. As I
was that Terrence was going up through way classes to
fight against Canelo. I'm like, it's still gonna be a
good fight because Terrence is Terrence, Terrence.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Blooded Bud Why differently.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Though exactly, So we're just like, but still, that's like
you want to see the best fights, and the best
fight is that.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's what the best fight he said, in order for me,
in order for me to enhance my legacy. Yeah, only
there is nobody else from one p fifty four down
that I can fight that can give me what.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Canelo can get.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
And it was the hell of a fight.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
He was put on the show. He did, he put
on the show.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
But that but these guys, now, the guys that care
about the back, they don't care about legacy. They don't
because they're not willing to take they're not willing because
you know what happened Floyd. Listen, everybody want to be Floyd.
Everybody want to be retired, undefeated.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I want to be Floyd, but I want to have
my legacy attacked too.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
But they don't bet up in women's boxing.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
You don't make no money unless you got legacy, right, Like,
I can talk all this talk, all this trash, call
all these girls and have and have a big mouth,
but with no accomplishments, they're not gonna pay you. You
gotta go out there and get it. So for me,
legacy is what pay the bills. Yes, go and chasing
the belts, fighting the best competition, that's what pays the bill. Yes,
Like I believe my next fight deal that I'll be

(20:57):
signing is is really big. It's really big, and it's
in the works right now. As we as we sit
here and speak, this deal goes through and everything is
the right way, I'll be able to say that everything,
everything paid paid off in great divity, in right I'll

(21:17):
be able to say a lot of things about how
much I make my pay my how I made.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
It to hear like, but you LOSTO have a legacy?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, But so what I'm saying so people say that
they don't care about legacy. It's like it's really confusing
to me. It's like Broy Ryan Garcia has never won
a title, right, but they think he can. He try
to go around and he say all this stuff he say,
he says he's such a great fight or whatever, whatever,
but he's lost, came back, lost again, whatever whatever. He

(21:47):
got a huge following, but it's like, at the end
of the day, your hardcore following is the sport that
you do boxing. So some they're gonna start realizing, like, bro,
you ain't have a world title.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah you talking, but you ain't. You talking like you're
a four or five time champ.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
But you're not and you're not. So therefore now it's
time for you to go get it, like either you
want to this whole social media stuff, people got to
remember it's fake, Yes it's fake. Real life matters, stuff
you can touch, tangible, Yes, it matters. So when you
got the belts, the gold medals, the the the accomplishments,
when you don't put your hands on the market and

(22:26):
what they ask that matters. That matters man. So so
for me, I don't get caught up in an older
legacy and who want to. I think that that's to
make people not want to trace, not want to chase
their dreams as much as they as they should, because
people can say what they want. But Floyd, Floyd Maywether
got the legacy and the money.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yes, he got the both of them.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
But Floyd what Floyd did, the did the the Conor
McGregor thing after he became what he became.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
He wasn't doing it in the prime of his career.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean, but that's clear as day. It's very clear.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yes, but these guys are willing like, no, you know what,
I'm in the prime of my career. Let me go
fight Japaul and and look, he's gonna probably make more
money Clarissa in this fight than he'd making in his
next two three fights. So I get it. I get
But I think the thing is that it's gonna do
is gonna do harm to his legacy.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, he's fought some championships and stuff, but I think
it'll be twenty years from now everybody will be saying, oh,
he didn't fight against he didn't fight against them, and
he didn't fight against the FEMO, you know, and yeah, yeah,
and that will I feel like hurt his legacy. But hey,

(23:39):
if you say that, it don't matter to him, It
don't matter.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
He's like, look, man, I got I'm gonna have on
I'm gonna have on them have minxed slippers.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'll be good some of them.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Girls, and saying like if I'm gonna cry, like I
want to cry the mends.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
That Javonte and he fight Jake. You think Juvonte could
beat Jake.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I think he can beat him. But I think
it's gonna be a real like circus clownish kind of
fight because not like a clown whatever I'm saying. I
think the fight gonna be like nobody can really like
punch in the head judge it because it's like Tank
is really short, yeah, and Jake Paul got some height

(24:24):
on him, he's bigger.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah. Mmm, I don't know if Javonte fights at right. Okay,
So now Jake Paul that fifteen.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yes, crazy, y'ut here, it's crazy, But I mean the
lack of Jake Paul's skill plus his size and with
Tank having a skill that he has in his power,
it doesn't equalize the fight, but it make it where
it's like, Okay, it's not too much of an advantage
for for Jake and not too much of an advantage

(24:57):
for Tank. I think Tank overall is the better fighter.
He's way better fire than Jake Paul. But it's gonna
be a very aquifight because the sizes like like that.
It's like me and you're getting the rings like I mean,
I got one skills circles around you touch you the
stuffup a little bit, making sweat, but it's gonna be like, hey,

(25:19):
you're shying to catch it with that one, and you
out to hear. So that's kind of how the fight is.
It's like when when he when he gets close enough
to Jake and he hit him, is it going to
be effective? And when Jake just get the swinging and
stuff back, what the hell that's gonna do?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So so that is a very aquifight.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, right, the Ryan Garth see a Tank fight. If
the rehydration clause is in there, do you believe Ryan
can beat Tank?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
No? No, I don't think Ryan Garcia can be tanked,
rather rehydration clauses in it or not.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know a lot of people believe.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Dad dey la Hoya said he believed that that Ryan
can beat Tank if they didn't have a real highdration clause.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Very interesting. I mean, he sposted said that like Ain
he signed him. He Sposta said that. But no Tank,
This Tank is a bad man man. I think the
only the only person who I think can beat Tank
in a in a fight is of course.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
You think you can beat it.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yes, he can handle that power, Yes he can. He
gotta get he gotta get hit with that power. Yeah,
it's hard to hitch the cord.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah it's hard, but you do realize in order to
hit somebody, you gotta suggect yourself to get hit.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Hey, did you see Skor last fight.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
With Yeah, he made the guy was swinging he yet, Hey, but.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
He's stood right there in the pocket with him, traded
with him.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
You want to trade with Tank, He want to trade
with Tank.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
If you keep your hands from your and your chin
down and you be skillful. But you can't just be
out there just chatting up and you're not paying attention.
But Chakoor is tougher than what y'all give him credit for.
He's very tough. And when I say tough, I don't
mean dumb. He's very He's very tough, and he's mean.
He got dimples and stuff. But the course small at you.

(27:06):
You feel like, oh yeah, okay, no court is like.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
That Floyd gonna fight Mike Tyson. Yeah, that's more weight disparity.
I don't know what's going on because Mike, Mike has
got to be two thirty.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I don't know how this stuff be happening, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
The money, if it dollars, that'll make If it make dollars,
it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, so what you're asking me, you like that.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I'm like, damn, it ain't no women out there that
I can fight and get me quick ten fifteen mil.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I mean, listen, I'm gonna get to the money. But
I don't think i'm everyone.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm talking some easy money.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's been easy this far. Well, I'm trying to figure out,
like women don't don't don't do that, you know what
I'm saying, even if you offer them a lot of money,
Like they're like, I'm not about it. Like people have
to realize that some women have never ever been into
a fight. Like you may see these girls fighting on
TV or on these shows, but it's women who watch

(28:13):
them and be like I would die before I let
somebody like like They got girls who will run trying
to fight like they're a run to their car and
lock the door.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So fighting is not something that psychologically everybody can do, right,
and everybody can't deal with an ass with either. So
that's what I'm saying, Like it's different for women, like
a man can deal with.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
An ass one better than they bring that piece with them. Okay, well,
ain't nobody taking a cutting up? Yeah, Claria, it's because
the Internet. The Internet makes it forever. So it used
to be a time you could take an ass cutting
tell you about it, but now you got to show it.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I'm gonna be a me.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
You got somebody got their arm all still and they're
shaking up.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
No, no, but that's what I'm saying. For me up
in boxing or whatever, an exhibition fight not not gonna happen.
And you know what, now that we're talking about Mike
Tyson versus Floyd Floyd, we thought about how when Jake
Paul fought against Mike Tyson, right, and it was like
the age dispirit, like the age different. I believe Jake

(29:20):
Paul is younger than me. Yeah, I'm thirty, what is
he twenty seventy seven. Yeah, right somewhere in there, so
is almost.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Fifty, I mean almost sixty. I think he's almost sixty.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So with that gay with that age gap.
When I when I hear them talk about me versus Layla,
I'd be like, hell, we're closer the age and then
then they was true. You know, but I don't think
that an exhibition fighter or something like that is ever
gonna happen. Happen for women, and then especially not for me.

(29:50):
Maybe some other women can do it, you know, who's
not as Sudan as me. But I don't think its
gonna happen. But I'm still gonna make a lot of
money regardless of that.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, you were at the Bud fight, so you got
an opportunity to see Bud up close against connect. He
put on the clinic. He was great. He was all
the way in or he's all the way out. He
wasn't in between. He he was, he was, he was,
he was, he was Bud Bud. But see Bud has
a different mindset.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Bud mean for real Bud, for real Bud fights. See
Bud grew up in Omaha and people look at Obaha, no, no,
but Bud was fighting for real. And and when I
sat down with him in February and he was talking
about it, you know, you get a sense, you know,
you're sitting across from somebody, and I was like, man.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
He's like Shannon, he's not that big. He's wide, but
he's not that big. Yeah, he's not overpowered. He ain't
like you.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, Box of size people up.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
So you see him and he absolutely did.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, I do the same thing. I'd be like, OK, yeah,
I guess you're waiting everything. Box are good at that.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
And so when he went out there and he's like, hey,
people asking me, can I take a punch?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Can he make a punch?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Has he ever been in someone been in the ring
with someone as skilled as I am that can put
punches together? Hey, I'm here here and now I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, and he did.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
He was in there with Floyd. But Floyd was was
older than than than Bluod would they might have been
the same age with Nah, I don't think. I think
Floyd was a little younger than what Bud is now.
But Bud made it look just like Floyd. He made
it look easy. I'm not saying it was easy, but
the way he canelo Canello won sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Nobody's ever unified that division. He got that unified. He
got it on walk. And what Bud was able to do,
as you said, going on three weight classes, I think
he proved he's the best in his generation. And it
ain't close.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah. Well, for me the last couple of years, Bud
has always been my pound number one. Yes, for the
last couple of years. Yes, you know, it's always been
like they say, oh sick and Loma and Canelo or whatever.
I've always said that it was that it was Buddin
since a couple of years ago, like when he beat
Earl Spence, and Earl Spence is a dear brother and

(32:05):
I love Earl Spence. I went to your limits with him.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
When I seen what he did is the Earl.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I was like, whoa, I saw it too.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I couldn't. I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, it wasn't that wasn't even close.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
No see, but that's the thing. That's when I was like,
oh shoot. So now when I watch Buff him, I
watch a whole a lot of different stuff, and he's
really a mental technician. He learns. I don't even want
to tell this your because because I know it. Yeah,
I think it's the same thing with me though. It's
same thing like I go in there and I see
this and see that and let folks get comfortable and
then you just had your way with him.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I don't know if Cannelo was just feeling this type
of way because he had lost, but he said Bud,
the way Bud did him was worse than what Floyd did,
and he believed Bud is a better fighter than Floyd.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I like when Terrence got asked us, he said Floyd
was the best in his generation. I'm the best nits anigenation.
I love that he said that because they both as
great fighters. You can't take nothing away from from neither
one of them.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Very different and.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Canelog got to ask about both of them.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
He did.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Now now you're asking me who did it worse. I
think that Terrence put more power on him, yeah, than
what Floyd did. But Floyd boxed, He boxed the hell
out of him. He boxed the hell out and he
couldn't he couldn't catch him, he couldn't land and it
was it was a blowout, but it was more of

(33:31):
a fight with Terrence Crawford. He tried to stand here,
try to punch. Crawford hit him with some good shots,
but Crawford was.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Just that's what happened. That's what I was impressed with.
And I think when he hit Budd and Bud like
I done been hit harder. Yeah, It's like a light
went off in Bud's head.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Budd like and Bro, I ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, he stayed right there in his face.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
And then that was later in a round when he
was right there in the pocket and he was like
he was trading with it.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I was like, Bud, what do you you? We got this?
Just hey, you ain't gotta do this.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Everybody said that to me and been fights. Oh we
got this. No we don't. You don't know what them.
Judge is thinking, we gotta go, we gotta go ten twelve. No, no, no,
I'm about to whoop as much as as I can.
So when that bell rang and uh and everything is over, Listen,
I know I left it all in there and I
and I pieched you up.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Good.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's what you want.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
That wasn't the one fifteen win twelve fight.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
No, I thought Bud won eight rounds to four.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yes, I saidn't say that's I'm being general. I say
nine three. Okay, you want to say, no, way, that's
a three, that's a three point fight.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
No, it wasn't. But when you got two competitors, it
was like it wasn't. Just like I think toward the end,
you just seen Bud just taking off right like he
he he stole the fighting and then you can see
Canelo just get get defeated when you try to touch
bud Glove before the corner. I said, oh shoot, yeah,
oh now he's showing respect to the smaller man. And

(35:00):
I was, but I was really proud of But I
ended up finding out her to uh Omaha, Nebraska for
his uh for his parade, and man, the amount of
people that came out for him, it was it was.
It was great to see it because they were He's
been calling off the best and the biggest names I
don't know how long. Yeah, and they kept overlooking him,
kept overlooking him.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
They weren't overlooing him. They wanted them problems.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Well, the media was painted out to be like he
wasn't a challenge, he was too small. He wanted this,
he wanted that, and he just kept he kept doing
what he's supposed to do. He made the right fights,
he stayed patient and and I don't know, I love that.
There's plenty of times where he could have gave up
and said, you know what, I'm two t undisputed champion.
These weren't even unisputed, Hi man. He could just went

(35:41):
on by his career in now here a three division,
three times, three ways.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
I said, that's forty forty seven and sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
When Canelo is the only guy that had ever unified
the sixty eight, that's cool, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I told him. I told him it was crazy. But
one thing you gotta know, like up a mental warfare,
you gotta feed him stuff and see what they grabbed.
I think I saw interview. He was up and he
was in Saudi right he was in he was in
Riod and he interviewed him never how much you wear
right now? He was like one fifty five. I know,
damn well, Bud. So I texted when I see the interview,

(36:19):
I copied the paste. I said, this was a good
line right here. But you but you feed him that? Yeah,
but I knew Bud was bigger than that. Yes, you
know what I'm saying. I knew that he had the
cut ape pounds himself right, So it was like he
he he did the same thing I did when I
went to tell a way. I had built all the
muscle up and got everything proportioned right and worked with
it and carried it and then I and then I

(36:41):
cut down. So he did the same thing.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's a lot easier going from one eighty five one
eighty eight to one sixty eight as opposed to one
eighty five one forty.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Seven one hundred percent, one hundred percent on. And and
I don't think he ever went back down.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
No, he not, No, And who can he fight that?
I mean, I seen maybe Charlo at sixty.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I seen Jamel Charlo say he wanted.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
But he ain't want to fight him before. Nah hes
the ticket. Let me let me, let me, let me
come eat lunch at your table. Nah, Budd say nope.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, I'm a boxing fan. I like to see
the fight. I think that Terrence will win, but I
like to see the fight.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Bud.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
No, But I told you, I don't know if you
saw the interview what I did with Bud. And we
was in the ring and we was wrestling, and he said, man,
I said, Buzz, stronger than you think.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I said, yeah, he's yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Short, but he was strong.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
He's strong.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah. Yeah, he dead lifted like four pounds. Come on,
come on, tree straight at the gym. Yeah, that's that's like,
that's crazy strep.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I said, no, no, no, no, he's strong. I said, I said,
Canelo not gonna be able to push him around.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now he's not.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I say, you look, I said, I understand he's fought
the majority of his career at forty forty seven, and
I get it, and he's going up the three weight
classes that there's a reason why.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
The weight classes was crazy. I'm not gonna wine that
was that was wild.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yes, I mean the gold, the gold. I mean he
and he had just one fight at fifty four and
he didn't look that good at fifty four. He but
he didn't look that good at fifty four and the
jump sixty didn't go straight to sixty eight. Yeah against that, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I think Madromov was a very awkward fighter, yes, a
very aquar fighter, and that's he made the fight awkward.
But Terrence still came on top. I think he won easily.
But it was just when you say he didn't look good,
like he didn't he wasn't like he didn't like yeah, yeah,
like he didn't.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Because remember we had just saw him against Earl Spence.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah so so so we saw one of his most
impressive performances and then followed up with that and then
and that's where everybody's like, uh no, you know, he's
never been hit by one sixty eight. This guy's fought
triple G and he's fought and Caleb fought Caleb Plant.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, but but it is a different animal.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
No, he but.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
A Sportswoman of the Year. Were you upset? People say
you were upset the angel One?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
No. I hate people like when they went when they
spend narratives that like they really get some of my nerves,
I think that would me. They want to spend everything
and make it into some negative. It was my first
time being nominated for the Sports Women of the Year
ward with BT and I just thought that I wanted
that was it. When I looked at who I was,
I was who I was up against, I'm like, oh man,

(39:10):
the only one that had Olympic gold medal school was
up there was someone bas So I'm like, oh man,
either she gonna get it or I'm gonna get it.
So It wasn't a thing a knock to none of
those other girls, you know what I'm saying. Had any
of them won, from flage A to to Mom. I
think it was Cocoa Golf, a couple other girls that
was nominated. I just like the Olympics is way is.

(39:32):
It's harder than anything. So when I seen that she won,
I was I think when when I made my tweet,
it was more like I thought, I thought accolades would
matter in this. But once again, that was my first
time going to the BT Awards and being there and
being invited, so I thought, like, Okay, they seeing my
hard work, they seeing what's going on off and to
get this award. But it's not knocked to angies. Like

(39:53):
I love Adrees. I like what she doing. I posted
her on my page before. She she is killing it.
I've seen her.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I mean you that what you said, you said, you
know you got it like that you got I got
a body.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, I got a body, you know what I'm saying.
But the way the way that she walked on them hills,
you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna have to get
I'm gonna get some practice and get some practice. But
sometimes when you're but too big and it get to
doing what it's doing you maybe I.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Don't know if you could, like you could throw it
like that, because you back, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
You know what I'm saying, So I would have to
try to get my I think she said, walk so stink,
make a whole mad or something. She said. They just crazy.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
But because the actual Victoria's Secret models, they like, yeah
right here.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, very very petitue. But I mean, I'm
sure I could do something like that. But the first
thing I want to do first is I want to
do a Sports Illustrated swimwear.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
You want to do the swim suit.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I want to do that. I want I want to
do that first, and then work everything.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
We don't get that out there, we put it out there. Yeah,
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, Sports Illustrated Clarissa, She'll say she wants to he
wants to do it.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Make me the cover baby.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
You mentioned like on social media.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
You hate when women say things because you know you
they tag you in it, so obviously you gonna see it.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, we what, But Clarissa, at this point.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
In time, now, you've been at the game long enough
to like know, they're controlling, they rage baiting you.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I think. I think a lot of folks on social
media is jealous and envious, yes, and just mad. But
once again, I be practicing my trash talk with them.
So when I be responding to them, somebody be like,
let me see what this s makes. Somebody said, let
me see what So I might go back and forth
with them, but trust me, that's after practice, after I've ate,

(41:50):
when I'm just in my bed laying down, and a
lot of times i'd be right there with Pap and
we just be laughing, look at this, and we just
said it back, and I'm like look and then we
just be crying, laughing, like it's ridiculous how much we
laugh about this stuff. But that's about it. But but
I'm getting better at, you know, ignoring it because it's
like I got better things to do. But sometimes be like,

(42:13):
oh no, she didn't come with that.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
If it works with women on social media than it
is with me, and.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
The men love me on social media rather that's because
of boxing, because of how I look, my shape, my confidence.
Men love that. I don't know what THEE gotten to
these women, but they are the problem. They're listen, they
are a complete problem. I'd be like, yo, I thought
we were in this whole me too and women stick together,

(42:42):
you know. Yeah, And it was like, I don't know,
once you get once you get to a certain level
of success, all that changes. Like I understand why Beyonce,
she don't be close. No, Beyonce, listen, you don't get
a people out of the listen. When I get to
that level, they gonna wish I was talking to that.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, yeah, Beyonce. You either see a with hoole or
you don't see baby. You see on you see on stage.
But she don't you know, I mean, she got all
these followers. I don't think Beyonce. Don't think she might.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I think she followed one person. Oh man. Like but
it's just like she's so she's so great, Like she
can dance, she can sing, she can rap, she up there, Yes,
she'd just be like mm hmm, so I'll be there
one day. I'm working on it.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
I wonder how she she can't be. I don't even
think you know what she might have somebody. She don't
even got.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Social media on her phone and her team don't even
bring it to her.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Sometimes I deleted it I deleted it off my phone.
I get rid of it, especially when I'm when I'm
in camp. Yeah, you know, because they just make up
stuff and they make you go viral for stuff that
don't got nothing to do with nothing, Like I wouldn't
viral one time for eat a tomato and asking them
it's a tomato or fruit or a fruit or or
a vegetable. And I'm sitting there biting and enjoining my food,

(44:01):
and all of a sudden I get online. It's on
all these different blog sites of me chewing and eating
it got damn tomato, and it's just like, I don't
want to go off for this.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I think they call it a fruit.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Though a tomato. I believe it is a fruit, But
people we consider it because it's not that good. You're
not gonna bite to it like an apple. But no,
I think that. I think that's just with social media.
Like I said, it takes some time to get used
to it, but you do need the detox from it.
And I need talk a lot more now than what

(44:34):
I used to do.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
But the negative comments they say about your hair, and
they say this about your you know, I mean they
are to the expect you to go to a fight
with a face full of makeup with last years hair
done like it is not.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
If that stupid?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Is that really how they expect you to come to
the ring?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Came right here, That's dumb. I'm gonna go to the ring,
my queen Latifa's my brain with the blue hair for
Flint Water crisis. Have my hair wrapped on up and
no no edge control, no edges, going to edge control,
dripping your eye.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah you can.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Now he said it was what it was. I'm just
saying I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, because I'm not gonna get away with that. They're
gonna They're gonna have a fight for me Tank you know.
He he's the road with Floyd, so he can get
away with that. Yeah, I'm not getting away with that.
So therefore, when I get in the ring, I'm I walk.
I arrived at the fight with my dress and my
heels and my look cute stuff. But soon as the
beginning in the locker room, I grab my makeup wipe
and I wipe it all off. Eyebrows, lashes, edges, I

(45:44):
wipe it all off, take the wing off and everything.
It's time to fight. Yes, I'm not ever gonna let uh,
enhancement stop me from performing my job. My job is
the whoop ass.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
But see they forget that. See they see you like
this and they don't think you can fight though.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I don't know why you think that because I take
my shirt off. Baby, I'll scaredybody here, hold on, I
take my shirt off. I mean let me show you something.
I take my shirt off in here and show you
what my my mother. Hey, you watch it now?

Speaker 1 (46:18):
They don't. They don't want no problem.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
You look at somebody you see like, oh, I think
I can take them.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, but you know I don't think these Listen. If
they think that, go to your goddamn homework. You better
look up a cross. The shields in the first bill
that pop up is me is me dropping a girl,
putting a girl on her back. You look look me
up before you think that. Please, I would I would
hate to get try try to try at the club
with a You you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Your hands are daily weapons. You can't fight in the street.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Who told you that?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
God, you can't. You're gonna go to jail.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Listen. I have the right to defend myself, so nobody
come messing with me. I'll mess nobody. But can't nobody
just walk up and just slap me?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
And then and then the deadly weapons.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
You are a professional fighter, yes, and I can defend myself.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Ain't nobody gonna just walk up on you?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
You never know. We in a weird world today. They
weird out here. And then you said when they see
me all dressed up, that I can't fight. So they
see me like, oh, she can't fight. She blocked me.
Online'm gonna walk up in hit her. No, you know,
no heels, I can fighting whatever shoes I got, heels, boots,

(47:30):
You're crazy. Listen, don't ever try me. I'm at the
camera again. Don't ever, don't ever. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
We're not gonna engage in that because I know people.
We don't want people. We don't want people to try
to walk up on the.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Good Listen, I gotta face that. Look, it's say come
and be friends with me, Come be nice, come me friendly. Now.
If you decide to be something else, that's on you.
But I am a I don't need I am a
disguised killer.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
You mean you want to have a child by the
in the next year, That still true?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
M hm, damn, will you night to have me get
this fight out the way.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I'm gonna have a few fights before this, before that.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Hm, you do know how like I mean fights, I
mean like every fole five months, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
It could be three, it could be four. It depends
on what you need.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
So you're trying to have you trying to have at
least two fights before you welcome.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
A child, before I start the process of a child.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
All right, I'm pretty sure you practicing now, you just you.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Know, practicing. Yeah, I ain't trying to have no no hiccups,
no trying. I'm trying to make sure we do this
stuff in order. So yeah, I want to get this fight,
these fights out the way. And like I said, it's
really a big thing to me to make sure all
the fight is out of me, right because once I

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get pregnant to have a baby and all this stuff,
when I when I come back, I'm gonna fight some more,
right Yeah. But it's like it's some girls who need
to get got like yesterday, right, so.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
You want to make sure. You want to make sure
you at your apex to get them go ahead and
get them boy to.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Wait, yeah, yeah, get them off the way, and then
when I come back, you know if I need a
year or I need a two, I can get myself
back in shape, fight some more.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
And you know, so you look at Rihanna, Beyonce, Serena.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
What's first name?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, I love that Beyonce had had had Blue Ivy
and she had the twins Serena Olympia. Uh and win
and win and win a championship. I mean she was
pregnant at the time. I think she went to Australia
Open and she was pregnant at the time. Oh Jesus,
and come back? Is that some of your inspirations, Like, Okay,
I see women that that have had had kids and

(49:52):
come back and continue their careers.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah. Absolutely absolutely. Like I feel like when I when
I'm carrying, I'm gonna be in the gym working out
still because I don't want to lose everything that I got,
like your complete body changes, but I don't want to
gain too much weight. I don't want to not use
certain muscles for a long time. I've been building it
since I was eleven years old, so they can't rest
a whole year. Like I need to make sure that

(50:16):
I still keep my hands sharp, staying to stay in shape.
So I believe that Once you do that, you can
come back. And I heard that it's easier to come
back if you work out while you're pregnant.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You walk into the ring with Cash Doll. Yeah, she's
a Michigan she's from Detroit. What's your relationship with Cash?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I love cashed Out Like she's a boss. She she's
a boss bitch. You know. She like nice stuff and
classy stuff like I like cash Out and you know
she's about cash Dollar. She whoop your ass too, like Dollar.
I like her. Listen. When I reached out to her
and I'm like, yo, you know, walk me out, you know,
can you walk me out to my fight? And she

(50:58):
was like, girl, we're gonna we're gonna hearing them up.
Blah blah blah. It wasn't even like it wasn't even
hard to make happen or nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like,
she just like she came with it. And when we
both walked up there and she started rapping, I'm talking
about they went crazy. It was about eleven thousand, two
thousand fans. I just remember it being like it was
my biggest fight at the time. I'm like, oh my god,

(51:19):
it was just It was just great that that she came.
We did our big one together, and I can't think
cash doun enough.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, she's now in a very public relationship as you
are with Zadarius, you with your guy Pap. When you
decided to get into this relationship with Pap, whether it
whether your intention it for it to become public or
were you trying to like keep it as secret as
long as you possibly could, because you know, if you

(51:51):
date publicly, Carissa, you know you got to break up.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Publicly, you know how?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, I ain't that said so honestly with my thought process,
I had just been engaged prior to being with Pep.
So at the time, you know, me and him, I
broke up and got back together a couple of times
the guy was engaged with, So now we finally called
the quick when I got with Pep, you know, another celebrity.
It was already big enough being just with a guy

(52:17):
who wasn't a celebrity and everybody being in my business.
Now I'm went another celebrity, and like you said, I wanted.
I didn't know how it would work out because one
I was against dating celebrities, rappers, NFL players, NBA. I
heard that they dogs, and I whoop of dogs.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Ass everybody meant to be fault.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I don't play this stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Just move on.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
You ain't got the fight.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
No, no, listen, why I'm gonna let her? Let a
grown man play with me for career? You know what
I'm saying, Like when the women get emotional, that's when
they start doing all this crazy stuff. So you hurt
my feelings and hurt my pride. Oh you got you
gonna have a problem.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
You told me that you've broken up with every guy
that you've been a relationship with.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yes, so I just leave him, okay, I but I'm saying,
but they did. I don't want to get played publicly though,
Like come on now, yeah, come on, Like that's why
I'm like celebrity man.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
I was.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
It was offering him as Papa Special, Papa Special. Like
that's a different type of man, right there.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
You slid that man, DM D man.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Come on, I hate Gillian wallall full of crap. I
invited Pap to a fight. I saw a master court
fight when he fought against I forget the god name.
It was July sixth, but I saw him there. We
took a picture. I didn't really know much about him.
You know what I'm saying. I knew of his name,
but I didn't like that's like before my time a

(53:46):
little bit, you know what I'm saying, Like I don't
really know, like that he was a rap legend and
I knew he could rap, but I ain't know he
was like rap legend. I didn't. I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
You know, So how you find him or how you
find him on I g you ain't no nothing.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
No.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
When we was at the he walked to me and said, hey,
I'm Papus and he shook my hand. Yeah, and then
we and then we got to pitch.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
You say.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
He said? He said, he said he was a fan
of me already. Now I said, okay, thank you. I
appreciate that. I appreciate it. No, I I just said that.
But no, when I invited him to my fight, what
you invited.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
To your piper to come see me fight?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
You need you need celebrities in the building. I would
invite you.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
You ain't invite me.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Well, you don't, damn.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
From the side. I got a DM. I got a
d M from uh I think twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
You didn't even respond.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I just saw it. Like the other day.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I know, but I'm saying like had your responded, I
would say, hey, man, I'm fighting x y Z. If
you want to come to my side, you should come.
You should bring At that time you was a skip,
I would send and bring you and.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Kip skip on to the fight. You could have came
on undisputed and him and said to fight.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
But you're gonna up with your DM. See that, But
you know what God's time is the best time. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
So look when I first of all, I didn't lighting
pap DM. He full of crap. He said, well boom,
I saw him at the fight. We should have cancel,
body washed the cor fight, whatever whatever. I did my media.
After the fight, he waited on the side with him
and his cousins. And then after he asked me for
a picture. We got a picture. We got one up

(55:17):
in his phone, got one up in my phone. I
sent him the picture that was in my phone because
in the.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Picture to the DIM, Oh, you said the picture to
the DM. I thought you said it to his phone.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I ain't have his number. I sent to DIM and
when I said that, I said, hey, and by the way,
I'm fighting in two weeks. So if you want to
come to my fight. It's in Detroit. Blah blah blah,
you just come out. And I said, just just let
me know if you want to come. I gave him
my public's number and said, hey, reach out to my
publicist and she will make sure that you got your Yeah, yeah,

(55:49):
you know that's You're good. From there, he we end
up exchanging the numbers between each other, right just on,
like I put him in a group, says, hey, Chris,
so this is Papa blah blah blah. And he come
into the fight and she said, okay, I got it,
cause I ain't like dealing with no tickets or nothing
like that, right, so boom. From there, as I'm getting

(56:10):
ready for the gym and I'm working out because it's
two weeks before my fight, I get texting the money
and I say, hey, good morning, Champ, and I'm like,
I'm like, hey, what's up? He like what we eating
this morning? I'm like, hell, I'm eating egg White's and spinach.
Would you eating? He eating a blueberry muff and I said, yeah,
we definitely not eating the same, right, Like, don't even

(56:31):
text me and tell me you eat a blueberry muf
And I ain't have no bread in months, and so
he's like, oh, you're working out today, woo woo. So
we would text, you know, just a little bit. Then
I probably went three four days without without texting them,
and then he text me again, Hey Champ, blah blah blah,
and we and we Me and Pap was really just

(56:51):
friends at the beginning, like true friends. I didn't even
didn't even invite him to the after party after the
fight because I wasn't you know, we was cool feeling
like that, though I wouldn't say that said I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Feeling it was more like it was like a he
just a friend.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
No, it was like a it was like a crush.
But I didn't know if I liked him because it
was like, I'm so focused on my fight, so folks
on what I gotta do. But then after the fight,
you know, more texts and all this stuff. We probably
text about a month and a half before we ever
even talked on the phone. He came to the fight
in the back wished me to luck. Everybody was surprised

(57:26):
at the fight, bla blah blah, Like he it was
that's the best relationships when somebody is just your friend,
your friend, just your friend, and he is.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
So when did you come to the realization say that
man liked me?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
He asked me on the date, he asked when I
was coming to me all.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Them taxes, you ain't getting nothing from all the man
to text you for a month and a half.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
So he caught me cute one time or me a
couple of times, and you know, he would compliment me.
He liked my pictures on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
But I just was like, oh, on Instagram, and you
ain't thinking nothing. I mean, all the other guys that
like you ain't texting me, what you eating, what.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
You say, it's not it's not a lot of men
who I feel like don't like me. If I'm being honest, Okay.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, but you but you ain't texting mil Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I don't talk to people like that. I don't.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
But you talking to him like that?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
We was I'm telling you was just we were just friends.
But I knew that it was something I knew. I
knew it was something. You know, maybe I think it
was cute or just trying to get you to say it.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
It's never just there's always a reason you don't get
in your car just to see it. You gotta stop
you you go to Whole Food, You going to shopping.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I invited him to the fight and after that we
were texting and texting and texting and it was really
great conversation. I shared some of my raps. He shared
his rasp I didn't even know not I didn't know
any of them. And when I heard him rap, I said,
this is my new favorite rapper because my favorit rapper
before him was me Neil.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Okay, So when I heard.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Pat, I said, oh, ship this dude. Is this dude cold?
So as I following his music and we just was
going back and forth. But like, I don't know if
it's like maybe I'm not really maybe I wasn't good
at flirting at the bit at that time because because
I wasn't trying to flirt, I knew at the time

(59:12):
I was leaving my last relationship. I knew I was
done with that, and I and I told my best.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Friends sometimes, like you, I don't want to jump right
back into something coming.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, But I ended up jumping right back into something yeah,
So we don't matter.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
That was quick. Yeah, about a month somebody I didn't.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Like I didn't say I didn't like him I didn't
say that. I said that when I invited him to
my fight. I didn't know like it would be what
it is now.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
No, But I mean, so what you hope that? What
did you hope to come up this? With all the
texting you two would do it?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I texted me was doing.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Penn pal. It wasn't like he was in jail he
needed somebody to do.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
No.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I mean, well, one for me, a lot of people
always like me is me not liking them. So it
was more of a thing like you you ever seen
a girl were just fine as ever she bad, and
then as soon as you talk, you'd be like, oh no,
that that that, that's that, that's not the one for me.
So for so for me, I'm always guys always trying
to talk to me, trying to trying to talk, you know,

(01:00:10):
trying to So it's more of once we started being friends,
but you're so picky.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
You don't want nobody famous, you don't like no athletes,
you don't like nobody in the public, so damn.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah. Yeah, but it's nothing wrong with being picky though.
But I know that for me that if I do
text you and I do entertain you, it's something if
I do feel something, because a lot of times I
don't really be feeling nothing, you know. So I felt
something with Pep and I mean it was it was
quick like once we went out on a date.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Were you achieve katy?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
No, we went to I think it's called corn bread
up in New York. Corn bread nice yet soul food, soulful.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
So what you get park?

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
No, you ain't eat no pop. No you eat pork
still five everything except squeal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
No, No, I don't mess with That's why you bough
like that pig. No I had. I had made some
fried chicken, yams, mac and cheese and greens. It was great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Fried chicken, mac and cheese, yams and greens, Cali greens.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
They didn't have no, they didn't have no hamhots in
the color greens, no turkey necks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
No tail stuff, no pork in it. You gotta stop,
you gotta stop. Do not eat pork man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
You ain't never had a small part of collar greens
with a bunch of with a bunch of pigtails in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
It, pig tail tails, pigs feet. I done have it
at all. I'm not eating one Chicklin's. I'm not eating
the more it's over. It's been over with for years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Well, I'm eat your shair of pigtails, so I don't
mess with no chillen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah, so just to get the story right, me and
Pat was friends. We love each other and we grew
in it. Somewhere you need to stop. No, he was
and now how he's my best friend now and and
he's my man and we have a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
You have a great time together.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
He was, he just he just left this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Dang, I thought he was gonna come mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
He be having more around, have myself to do. He's
a celebrity too, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
But for me, that works for you though, Yeah, could
you have anyone up under you all the time?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Nah, I'm not going to be out of time now,
but I know it's twenty four hours in a day. Yeah,
So I can get my work out the way and
do what I gotta do and then we can be together.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
So yeah, well I guess that's what's gonna have to be.
Because you have kids, y'all gonna be together.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
So so I'm just saying, like, you go work out,
he go work out, come out. Y'all do different type
of workout. You come home here there you know, he
have you a smooth to have you your hue ready
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Oh man, I gotta I got I gotta cook for that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Damn oh big bottler, somebody gotta do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Yeah about I gotta do it. I have to start fighting.
I saw you on stage with some a walker rapper host.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
What was that like? Okay? So they reached out to
me and said that, you know, I sang her song
on the twenty verses one. When I was up there
with a bunch of guys and they were all I
had to pick who I wanted to be with, whatever
the case may be, and they a guy asked me
could I sing? And I said yes, and he told
me to sing and I sang it. So from there
it went viral of me singing. And now at her

(01:03:30):
concert she had people sing that same song. So she
was like she wanted the originator to come and sing.
So I was in Atlanta. I came they and they
had tickets for me, And when it was her segment,
she brought the mica up to me with funny micro
right there. He said, was gonna share Mike. I said,
you was not for the mess of my singing funny
Marcao something. Oh, I'm gonna singing. Some of you sing something.

(01:03:50):
I said, what they adn't what was told to me. No,
I gorat a mike and sang my little song. He
was right there, rocking back and fort like he was
gonna sing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
But it was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
It was great. It was great to have that. And
I'm really shy to sing in front of people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
That's what I was about to ask you. I mean,
I mean singing in your home or in your shower.
It's different than singing in front of ten, fifteen, twenty
thousand people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
It was about thirty thousand folks there because it was
really the I believe Chris Brown, Okay, yeah, what's performing?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
He was, he was the head. She was just kind
of under him. So yeah, it was very nerve wrecking.
But I have been practicing until I had got there.
I had my tea and my honey, so I said, yeah,
I'm about to go out here and I'm about to
kill this I and I did my thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
It's fine, getting ready for a fight. What type of
music are you listening to? Are you listening to something
to get you crunk? Roy Jones can't be stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
You looking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Is this the day of the fight?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yes, day of the fight, you in the dressing room.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
It really depends on what my mood is, because if
I'm very hype, I want to listen to something to
calm me down, so I'll go gospel R and B.
If I'm not hype enough, I'll go trap rap. If
I just want to feel that beast. You know, we
gonna listen to some DMX, you know what I'm saying.
We're gonna gonna bull out to some DMX, some Biggie,
some Tupac Love, Mick Miles, you know. And then when

(01:05:13):
I really feel like it's about that time and I
want and it's time to be to be a boss bitch,
I'm put on my cash Down, put on my Megan A. Stallion,
put on my Cardie, put on my Nikki too, you
know what I'm saying. I know they got a little beef,
but they all got good music, and I just I'll
be having to feel what I need to feel, you
know what I'm saying. So sometimes it really depends on

(01:05:34):
how I feel. And when it's time for everybody to
get out, sometimes I just want to hear my thoughts.
You know what I'm saying, So I only listen to
me to like tour, like the last five three minutes
before you walk out, I cut the music off and
just kind of gather myself.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
If you could have anybody walk you to the ring,
who you have Beyonce?

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
He listen, I don't know Beyonce walking me out to fight?
My life is complete. I always say that Beyonce, like
that would be like the dream, the dream, and you
know when she can pick a song. But if she
want to come out to to diva who run the world? Girls,
she want to come out to this, ain't Texas whatever whatever,

(01:06:13):
she want to come out to, come out to the country,
it's Beyonce. You don't tell Beyonce no, no, nothing, It
don't even matter. She want to come off the bills.
I don't care how long Beyonce come. I'm gonna be like, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Have you had any injuries? Have you sustained any injuries
preparing for a fight, you know, shoulder, elbow?

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
So because it's like you when you're training, when you're prepping,
you know, lost days of training sets you back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
So one day of miss training is like three four days.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
The injury that I've sustained. I have still fought with them,
and after the fight, I take care of the injuries.
You know what I'm saying. I do what I have
to do to get through the fight, as most fighters do,
right and after that, I have to do it and
then I see how seriously is Like, I don't don't
really know how serious an injury is leading up to
a fight because I kind of ignore it unless it's

(01:07:06):
just like really crazy. But I did have one really
crazy to two fights ago, a frozen shoulder, so my
arm couldn't it was just frozen here. I couldn't lift
it up, I couldn't do nothing with it. It just
was frozen here. And I had to go and get
one of those shots to take the information down. I
had the ice hel Yeah, it was. It was a

(01:07:27):
lot that had to get done for this fight to
go through. It happened a week the week before the fight,
and that was with Danielle Perkins. So with that, like
I said, you're making over a million dollars. You know
you gotta sold out. You gotta sld out, Ben you.
I'm sorry, but in women's boxing, you can't call off
fights like that. I'm sorry you just you just never

(01:07:48):
know when you're gonna get another opportunity, so I don't
blow opportunities. So with that, I fought through that one unanimously,
and you know, made sure I did the work the
next fight, and then I'm doing the work now, you
know what I'm saying. Letting this stuff hell, just nobody's
supposed to do anything too much. You run too much,
you have leg pobblems, you punch too much, you get torn.

(01:08:11):
So like it is what it is. You just have
to make sure you the proper recovery and everything to
it and then go from there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
So cutting weight, you know, you see people go through
drastic measures. They're eating, they're not drinking water, they're getting
the sauna. They're just you know, they can't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I mean, all they can do is just basically somebody
has to help them to get to the scale way
and then try to get food, try to get fluid
back in you. How difficult is that for you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Because like you said, now, you know you walk around
and you say, what eighty five, eighty five, and then
you dropping down to one seventy and that's not that much,
that's nothing. But when you get down to sixty five
or you got to get down to fifty four.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Fifty four, that's a lot. Those are Those are tough,
especially when you been finding out a bigger weight class
for for a long time. So I've been at heavyweight
almost a year now, a year and half. So going
down to the way classes could be, it's not that
easy now, right, you know, I got different muscles and everything. Yeah,

(01:09:11):
losing a weight, it's all about sacrifice and having you
a team. Some people don't have teams. I have a
whole nutrition team. I actually try to eat healthier now,
even just inside my home when I'm not in camp. Right,
I got food in my bag. I got me like
some baked chicken, some rice and some spinach in it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
You had that in the bag. I hate that. What
I was hungry. You have some baked chicken, some spinach
and there I left the spinach with a baked chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Why would you eat the sprainis? It's like Popeye.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I ain't want to be like Papaye. He couldn't see
out of one eye.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Oh Jesus, but no. So I'm trying to get better
now with like the shift in my house and eating
berries just outside of when I have to have camp,
because when camp starts, you know that's like eight ten weeks,
sometimes six. Yeah, it's like you want to make sure
that you don't have to spend a whole camp just
focusing on losing weight, right, you can actually focus on

(01:10:08):
like the actual fight, the stuff you gotta do, and
you don't want to have to be running every like.
I think that that's what killed a lot of these fires,
Like they run, run, run and run, and sauna, son
and sauna, and before you know it, you just like
you don't there really is no fight left in you
even after you behydrate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Yeah, you don'et thought to make weight. Now you can
go out there and find an opponent.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
A lot of fires do that, some of these big stages,
these fires are losing that weight, and when they're trying
to rehydrate, it's hard because they don't start yourself for
three days, and you know when you're dehydrate dehydrated, you're
going to ring at fifty percent forty. Yeah, so that's
my good.

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Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Y'all can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I don't know what the other woman do, but I
sustand but I stay away from sex six weeks before
the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
So like like a mail fighter, you they can't have none,
so you can't get none either. That what I mean?
Have you always thought, like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I know, I know other girls who do it the
day of the day or day like they be having
their little sex and stuff. Me, I'm not doing that
for me? Was it little sex stuff whatever y'all want
to call it? That makes me feel really relaxed and
we're and and and really calm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah you feel calm?

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
No, when you gotta pick bull on your ass, you
want all to run, you gotta you gotta be able
to get that you gotta be able to run. No,
like it really does take something out out your legs. Yeah,
to me, so it's like six weeks. Maybe that's WoT.
I'd be so mean and angry because six weeks without
none and then you just got to go in there
and fight. But hey, I feel good make millions. I

(01:13:16):
feel better being healthy. I feel a lot stronger not
doing it, not doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
So so how do you were that trial and arrow?
Did you have to know whether the situation? Like, man,
I felt sluggish. Now that ain't happening no more. I
just well, I didn't feel because a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Lot of times that as an athlete, you as trial
and error what works with me? How much to train,
how much to live, how much to run, how much
to eat? What the thing? How much leak? Do I
get all the trial and arrow? And then you fine
tune it and you get it now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
You find what works for you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Well, unlike other people, I didn't start doing that stuff
till I was seventeen, after I won the Olympics. So
before then I never even food around anyway. So now
that I'm grown or teenage or whatever you want to
call it it, now you know I'm in the gym
constantly every day too, so coach wants to spar two

(01:14:07):
many times a week. So I realized that when I
come to the gym and I've been doing I've been
doing that grown people stuff, i'ma love, I'm bit more tired. Yes,
you know, I can't fight as hard. And guess who
notice it? Coach?

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
He noticed it. He like, old, what you doing? What
you did last night?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah, coach? And and so, like I said, Jason used
to call me out in front of everybody because I
was like his daughter. So he called me out. All rest,
you look like ship today. You've been out there fooling around.
I could tell you need to stop doing all that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Put on class like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah, Jason was like that. And it was and at
the time it was very embarrassing because it was like
this is new to me. Nobody even know I do
this stuff. Everybody my business. But no, I just know,
like he was right there, it does make you sluggish
and tired. And I feel way more sharper when I'm not.
And for me, I spar against me and getting ready

(01:15:08):
for fights. So it's like these men come in here
fast and strong and sharp. I got to be on
my a game, and the last thing I want to
leave me, leave me is my damn legs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Right. Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
So I'm like, I don't really feel around like that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
When the next fight.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Okay, so so my next fight supposed to be January
twenty fourth at that State farm here in Atlanta, possibly
the opponent's franchise cruise. But I'm resigned to my my
promotion with Sleader Promotion slash Win, and I'm being paid
eight million dollars. Wow, yep. And that's just in a
couple of days, once we get paperwork done and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Good, That's why I said. It's really it's really big.
It's really uh, it's really I don't know. I feel
I feel very proud that I was able to get
this offer. I've been talking with some of the biggest
promotions out there, MVP match Room, uh Salida, you know,

(01:16:07):
talking to everybody, trying to get the best deal. And
now that my startum has grown so much now and
now I can actually you know, the quote gets paid.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah, if someone would, if we if movie they come say,
you know what, we want to do a movie about
Coriscia Shield's life. We I want another one because all
this time champion. Who would you like to play you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Oh? Lord, See, honestly, maybe I'm biased, but Ryan Destony
playing me so good. Want to do it again. But
if I had to pick somebody else, I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Know who, I know who, I know who my audience
would want to play you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Angela Bassett, Kicky Palmer, well she Kiki Pummer plays Listen,
I'm not gonna lie. I thought Kiki was gonna play
me for the first one for the bib Pig. So
when I came back and they said it was Ryan Destin,
I was like, Okay, no, but it's not that she's
not a good actress. It was just like she's small. Yeah,

(01:17:16):
she's tiny.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Yeah, is small and tiny too, But I mean but she's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Played more sports and she kind of reforms her body
or whatever. So I was I was like, I don't
know how she's gonna how she's gonna play me. But man,
when I tell that girl going to diet was drinking
protein drinks and everything, Ryan did it. She did her
thing on the fire inside. But for my next one,
yeah a kikey Angela Basst, what did.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
They come what didn't what didn't they cover in the
first that you would like to get covered this time
would you like it? So obviously they take the beginning stages,
so now you're you're at a different place in your
life now the relationship, potentially kids or would be in
the mix. So is that something that you would want
to get covered this time around?

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Yeah? Yeah, I want them to actually cover the grown
woman that figured it out. You know what I'm saying.
I think that from my documentary that was a long
long time ago t Rex. They released that when I
was nineteen, and so it's an hour and a half
documentary where they actually followed me around and whatever. So
now until the Fire Inside came out, Okay, basically from

(01:18:27):
the documentary, like they it left, people were like, yeah,
she want Olympic gold medal, but she's still live in Flint,
still poor, blah blah blah. And that carried on until
the Fire Inside came out. But I've been won the
Olympics again, been moved out of Flint, been lived in Florida, Colorado.
Now I'm here in Atlanta. I had already, you know,

(01:18:48):
started getting my life together. Yeah, had bought me a house, cars,
bought mama house, bought Daddy a place. Sorry, I did
all this stuff, but it was like none of that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
None of that was in the original. So now you
want to want that shown as well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Yeah, to show that like this is what actually happened.
Like even now, people that don't like the relationship with
me and my first coach, we still talk here and there.
He comes to my fiight, he's supportive, but that's still
like my dad, you know. And every relationship is not
like father daughter. It's not really close. But I know
that if I call him and I need him, he's there,

(01:19:21):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
So with it difficult to split, Yeah, because the only
coach you had known, yeah, excess.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
And for me, that's why I don't think I have
a lot of friends, because I don't want to be
friends with you and then we and then we fall out,
Like it really hurts my feelings, Like I don't like betrayal,
I don't like disloyalty. So for me, it's like if
I take you in, take you in as my friend,
let's let's be friends, and let's be good friends to

(01:19:51):
each other. I don't like, you know, we live in
a world where it's just fake faith.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Oh, somebody that was your best friend is going around
telling everybody your business and fitting on your name and
all this stuff. It's like, I don't I don't like
to like that made me want to fight somebody for real,
for real, everything may want to fight somebody, don't it,
But that really like when it when it comes to it,
I was like, dang, you're gonna hurt my feelings and
make me trust you and make me care about you

(01:20:16):
and then just get to being fake and stuff like
that really really bothers me. So I be kind of
like this with that sol So me and Jason not
separating about a young age and out and not training
together no more. It was very weird because I felt
like I was betraying him by getting me a new coach.
He was like, dang, but I was professional, So I'm like,
I gotta fight in eight weeks. I ain't even got

(01:20:38):
time to fix this relationship. We gotta fight. So it's
like either we're gonna do this fight and and kind
of ignore whatever we're going through, or I gotta go
to this new coach and figure this out and then
when we come back. But it was just like at
the beginning of my professional career, nobody had time to
do that. It was like I was fighting back to

(01:20:58):
back to back this belt, that belt, this belt, that belt,
this champion, that champion. There was no time to worry
about a uh a r oh, oh you're upset, you're mad,
you wanna talk with me? It wasn't it wasn't no
time for that. It was like, I gotta, I gotta,
you gotta get it. While to getting is good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Yep, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
So that was how I was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Wow. You mentioned earlier that you you spar with men,
you don't spark with women.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
No, no, what I gotta really see what I got.
I got to work my stuff. So it's like with
the women, sometimes you hit them too hard or they
contact you personal. It's like when we spark against the men.
You come out there and you're showing what you got.
They show you what they got, and y'all can actually,
you know work.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
You sparred with ear Erow Spence since you court.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Uh huh, I sparre Earl Spence to corps boots uh
Keishawn Davis ddamn. Yeah, I spared a lot of them.
I'm trying to think who else sparre? Uh. That'spired a
lot a lot of guys. It's guys who are professional
now like of course, you know, like the first the
first guy, uh, Drill Holmes. That was the first boyfriend

(01:22:03):
I had. We spirred all the time with my biggest
smarting partners. I started a Simons. I sparred against a
lot of men. I mean, I can't even name everybody.
Kenneth Simms, he's fighting, he's getting ready for a world championship,
and he's been fighting for world championships for a minute.
I spart against a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Are you the only woman fighter that that possibly spars
against men? Or do you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
The good ones, the ones who are really good, you know,
can but not all of them. But I probably spar
with more men than they do, right, than than they do? Yeah,
I think that, But I mean I have to. I'm
one hundred and eighty pounds, and then even when I
was smaller. See when I'm smaller, I'm actually a bit

(01:22:51):
more dangerous because I'm faster, I'm stronger, and and I'm
in way better shape. You know. So I've always had
to like spart Tony Harrison, you know what I'm saying,
Like I was Spartan Hinston.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Some champions, some really good male some really good male fighters,
male fighters.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
And I'm telling you, like you can hit them up
and ask him how the spring was, and I'd be like, yo,
she was she was tough, she was strong, she was fast.
Has to keep my hands up. I had to be
on my defense like it's always some always some good word,
I think out of sparing all of them the hardest.
What's your cor in? Earl? Can I hit your car?
Can't hit him? I'm like, I don't know if it
was like was I step behind this day or what?

(01:23:29):
But I couldn't. I could not catch this man. I
think I probably hit him with the right hand and
a big ol uppercut of the sum I tried to
drop him with a with a with a body shot
and then we just got the going. But it's hard
to hit him when he don't want to get hit.
He don't want to get hit. But he knew how
to counter and everything. And then Earl I was seventeen.
He was just so strong, right, he was so strong,
and it was just like I had to box him.

(01:23:51):
I had to move around upon him because I'm like,
this dude too strong there trying to fight with the Earl.
Spencer was really really strong, and but they wanted to
use him to make me move around, move around on
my feed more because everybody that I was sparring, I
was just going in there and just beating him down.
So they were like, Earl gonna make her have to
use her heels and move around or whatever whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
So Christa, thanks for coming back, Thanks for your time.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Continued success, Congratulations on everything you accomplished, and all the
best in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
Shields all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle
pact the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Price, Wanta Slice got the product, Swap all my life,
grinding all my life.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
All my life, grinding all my.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
Life, sacrifice, Hustle Pactic price, want to Slice, got the product,
dis swap all my life.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
I be grinding all my life.

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