Club Shay Shay - Kai Cenat Part 1 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You had a few people on your screen just said that,
You know, when you do these things, you you know
you look huh yeah, you look me smelling smell what body,
older body?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I smell.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
That's what Juicie said.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh my god, Juicy.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Bobby watching. Yes, yeah, all right, you know you gonna
have to have two rags, one for your face and
one for your butt.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
You're using the same rag. Hell though, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
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crust Price, one slice got the brothers sat all my life.
I've been grinding all my life, all my life, grinding
all my life, sacrifice, Tustle Ba Price, one slice got
the brother of dis Swash all my life.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That was crazy, But I think the thing that you're
most proud of, bro, you you gave us quality minutes.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
You gave us quality minutes. Come on, I was one
hundred from the field. Yeah you were. I could have
got more minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Bro, you got you gave us what you give us?
Eight ten points?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I got four you gave nah. But you have some
quality assists, key rebounds, played some outstanding Why did.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
You play me?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I played you? Okay? We started the game with what
our started. Then you come in, you closed the quarter,
but it was your group that got us back into
the game. Because you have my highlights.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well I have yes better than everybody on that was
on that whole court.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, yeah, you have some good highlights. So now I
feel very I feel very comfortable when you come back
giving you more quality. That's all. Give you up sixteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, I like that right that. I'll take that sixteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Bro. How you doing, man, I'm doing great. God.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You want to tell you too, I do water because
like okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yea, yeah yeah
we told some water.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Congrass bro, Bro, I didn't drive. I've been good. I've
been good.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Life has been great.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Life is great.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's just just just taking it in, just just enjoying
it as I go on and just you know, just
living like.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
You grew up in the Bronx from New York. What
do you remember most about growing up in the Bronx
going up to the Bronx.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I remember, oh my god, with the fun times it was.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It was fun.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
It was also like that like down in terms of
like having like my family, being able to do certain things,
and like, uh, and.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I just it.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Just I just have like a lot of childhood friends
that I'm still for today I can remember.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
But like in the Bronx, just I feel like it
was a perfect place for me.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
To grow up at though when I look at all
the famous people Cardi B, Fat, Joe j Low, Mary
j kr Is, One Ice, Spice, Swizz Beat, French mintown
a Big Pun Remy Ma Biggi with the Hoodies, Slick Rick,
were you familiar with all those people when you were
growing up in the Box.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes, yes, Yes, to this day, I Bump a Boogie.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
He's my favorite artist still is you feel what I'm
saying for the Bronx and just that when I was
going up to the Bronx, like New York music is
different because like New Yorkers can really relate to it,
you know what I'm saying, and like they'll say things
in certain songs that's just that's just New York related
that only New Yorkers can take in and get it.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
And it's just some more up temple vibe. Knowing all
those people were from the very community that you were
growing up in, was that motivation to you to say, like,
you know, what look at what they're doing, look at
what they became. I can do that, maybe not so
much in the music industry, but I can choose a
profession and I can be just as famous as though. Yeah,
it was, it was. It was definitely.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
It just looked so good in terms of like damn,
representing the city. You feel what I'm saying, like and
being a voice for the city, you know, like Pops
not possible from Brooklyn, but like New York. We look
at New York as one muted, like the city itself,
like anybody who come out of there is it's like fire,
and it's tough. It's really tough to make out of
New York because everybody would think it's like like, uh can.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I can I curse?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Oh, it's like Dick Ryder or somebody like you feel
me or like like not you gotta like so and
support to somebody.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Out of New York. It's like, yeah, they call it
meat right.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Glaze and you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
You meet Rder, so it's like nah, like so when
they do go crazy, it's fire.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Somehow you leave the Bronx and you end up in Georgia,
but you end up in a homeless year. How did
you end up in Georgia and how did you end
up in home?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, so when I was when I was younger, like
it's way younger.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
My mom she had four she had four kids, my
little brother, my little brother. Dad was very uh in
his life, so like he had like both parents, but
the three of us, we only had my mom, and
my mom was like struggling on her own and stuff.
It was a lot of tough times and we had
to be in a shelter for quite some time.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I mean Georgia come from New York.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
That I was like, it was like it was like weird,
but like you feel me. We was there.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I remember I remember like bits and parts she has,
like the shelter sheets that she she still has it
at her house. She's like remember like certain things and
and all that. But it was definitely weird.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
When you were in there. What would what did I
mean did you think anything? Like? Man, we left Brooklyn,
that left all I mean, excuse me, you left the Bronx,
I got all my friends there and we come to
Georgia and we're in a homeless shiit.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, I didn't, I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
You didn't really know what it.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, at the time, I didn't even know he was
in Georgia, Like we must have hopped on like a
bus or something. Correct, But like at the time, I
didn't know we was in Georgia, and I didn't I
was just going with the flow, you feel what I'm saying,
Like wherever my mom went, I was just going. It
was me and my twin sister and my older brother
and whenever, whenever she went, we just we just went.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Seeing that you've become so successful, Okay, And there are
a lot of people that a lot of young people
that's going through things right now, and some might be
on a shelter. What kind of advice would you like
to give those people that says, no matter how tough
the situation may be, sunshine follows right.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Oh yeah, no, yeah, no, cat, this just like my mom,
I would say, like keep family close and never forget
like the small things in your life that happened. Because
my mom is literally like a superhero with time's where
I don't know if she had like I don't even
know how she was able to make sure that we
was able to get through some nights and get through days,
because I know it was definitely hard.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I would definitely say.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Keep your head up, keep God close, because a lot
of things in the world is definitely a lot of
things that goes on in life happens for a reason,
you feel what I'm saying, and it only builds character
in the storyline. So like whenever, whenever people is struggling,
it's never it's never too late.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
You mentioned that it's for you guys. You have a
twin sister, you have two younger brothers, right, older brother
and older brother and younger brother. How tough was that
on your mom to try to raise four young kids?
Obviously you say your youngest brother his dad within his life,
but how difficult was that on your mom knowing that

(07:53):
you see her go to work and she's struggling, trying
to make ends, meets to make sure you guys have
the best of what she can afford. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
It was very difficult.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
You know, Like my mom, she she just never gave
up on us, Like you feel what I'm saying. Anything
could have happened, she could have she could even quit
on what I'm saying, Like, you know, things could always
be worse. But my mom, it was definitely hard, Like
there was some like we had to, Like it was
so much time where she had to find food or
like not only like something like she always like make
sure we cooked this stuff, but like even like us

(08:23):
even simply we just wanted like McDonald's or something like,
and she couldn't get it, you feel me, or like
us wanted certain clothes, she couldn't get it you feel me.
And we just had to live with that and that
it was definitely hard you feel me. So like she
was by herself, and I don't know how I think
it to this day.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you have a relationship with your father?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I do? I do. I was just with him.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Actually I was just want yesterday the first the first
Christmas I had with my pops.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
So what was that? Like? It was far?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
It was good because like I have my whole family there,
and like I understand when I was younger, I didn't understand.
When I was younger, I used to be so hard
on my pops. I didn't like want to like talk
to him or not like that. My sister was very
close to him. But as I got older, it's like
I'm mature and I realized, like damn, like even though

(09:10):
there's like no excuse for for for a man, Yeah,
for a man not to be there. It's just more
of a like I've grown older to accept the fact
and forgive. Like I don't know what was going on
at the time. Is like I don't know what was
going on. I don't know how stressed he was. I
don't know how anything was. So when I did spend

(09:30):
Christmas for him, he was very happy and like, now
I'm able.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
To provide for my family, you feel me.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
And he has kids, he has kids with somebody else,
and his little kids remind me of like me and
my brother's when he was going up. So I just
want to be able to be able to help my
pops out so that he can give.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, what I wanted, you feel me. So it's just
an amazing feeling. I was just with one.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
His his his son yesterday and I met him for the
first time, and he he loves all my stuff. So
it's like like I got to see I got to
see him, and I just want I just want the
best for my my pops right now.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So that he can give them the life. You know
that I that I always wanted.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Did your step brothers know that your dad that their father?
And it was your dad.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Also not so yes, so they they knew they at first,
like he called me, and after they it was one
day I met them on FaceTime.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
But he goes back into his friends.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
YoY yo god yokuys, my step mother, my step brother, cas,
my brother, my brother, and nobody believed him and the
like what he always calls.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Me, and like he reminds he his name was the
better day.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
He reminds me of like me when I was younger,
like for real, for real, so like it was, it's
just so far like he was. He's a big supporter
of mine, and when he found out, he was going crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah. I've talked to people that a parent was not
in their life when they were younger, and when they
finally get an opportunity to off to that parent, there's like, look,
I'm not trying to go back and get the time
that was lost, right, I'm trying to start right here forward. Right?
Is that how you feel? Right?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, that's how I feel,
because like.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
It's like it's nothing that, it's nothing I can do
to get that time back and lost. Yeah, it's already
it's already happened, and it's like why why like grieve
on it when you could build a connection right now,
you feel what I'm saying, like as he's he's as
we're getting older and stuff, and like I could just
tell that like now it's just it's on some where

(11:34):
I could like build a genuine connection.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I could text him, I could call him.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
And plus what I respect so much about him is
like even when I did take off with a lot
of my success, like he never he never played a
role in like asking me for anny thing or like
a role of like trying to be sneaky and like
try to like be like hey, never pull like hey
I'm your dad card, like none of that.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
So I have gotten to that point where I have matured.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
And if it's a good feeling too, it's like when
you get over something, it's like and you can move
forward with it.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's just a wonderful filling.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So you've forgiven your father for not being there, because
you know, I tell people all the time, forgiveness is
not for your father's for you because you have to
let that burden go, right and you since you've been
able to do that, what what a relief has that
What kind of relief has that given you.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It gave me a great relief.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Like it's like it's so crazy, because yesterday when I
was spending time with him, it was like it was
like damn, like I'm actually like joking with my pops.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like I'm actually like laughing and joking around.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
And he may not know like too much of what
I like or what I'm into personally, but he's able
to learn. Now you feel what I'm saying, and like
they were able to have that connection. But it feels
amazing though, because like I've always seen other when I
was growing up, I to see kids with both parents,
like no way when somebody has a good dad next
to them, and they learned certain things and stuff. I
was ready with my mom, so it was like you

(12:53):
feel me. It was like it's so different. It's a
good feeling. My step pops are there.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
For me a lot though. Yeah, So that was that
Your first Chris is that you could remember with.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
You guys, First Christmas and my birthday of some sixteenth,
so like it was the first like half birthday out
and god, I can visually remember, Wanner said though, first Christmas,
Like wow, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
What kind of student were you in school? How was school?
How were you in school.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Man class clown? Oh my gosh, I used to mess
around all the time. I'll probably go to section.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Like elementary school terrible, like I was a bad kid,
guys get calls home every time. Middle school I think
like sixth grade bad, seventh grade bad.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And in eighth grade I.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Got my stuff together, like I started to realize, like, okay,
I'm in scoring, represent my mom. And then after high school,
ninth grade was okay. Tenth grade terrible, like I did
not care about no work. I didn't want to do
no work. I wasn't locked and I wasn't focused. And
in eleventh grade it was okay, twelfth grade, I round

(13:54):
it up? Good, you feel me? But I was I
was always just like joking around though. So did you
spend I mean, how much time did you spend in
New York? And how much time did you spend in Georgia?
But with the majority of your school life in New
York and then no major yeah, so from from for
one of the New York so start to finish, I'm
probably like left.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I moved to Georgia when I was nineteen.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Okay, nineteen or eighteen okay, So all your so all
your school was all New York. Everything was New York.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Okay, Okay, yeah, so I just I just you moved
to Georgia probably like it's been like since I've been
living in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Probably like okay.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Like going on four years, going on four Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Were you popular with the girls in school? Nah? Like
I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
I was like I was cool, like on a friend level,
but like I was like scared to talk to you
like anybody and stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Were you good in sports?

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
No? And this is what it gets crazy.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
This it gets crazy because I wasn't good academically, right,
I wasn't good in sports. Like I tried out for
the basketball team one time they kept they called like
ten travels that game.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Like it was bad.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Like I was just never an athletic tide a type.
I I wasn't good at like no, like robotics. I
wasn't good at a lot of stuff. But I really
love like being in front of the camera and like
and like watching like YouTube, okay, and playing like games.
So it would be games in front of the camera
and YouTube that was me. So like I wasn't going

(15:17):
I was into sports, and.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I actually hated it. I hated athletes in my high
school cause like damn, like, why am I not athletic?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Like everybody everybody got varsity cool varsity jacket, they got
the lacrosse sticks, they got the they got the they
got the theyre coming in with the football helmets, baseball bats, one.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
In track, Like I'm like, damn.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
So like in middle school, I was like the water
boy for like my basketball team. I wanted to be
involved in something, but like they just say, hey, just.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
You weren't good in school. You didn't play sports with them,
You just in daycare.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
You just I was literally you feel what I'm saying,
Like nobody my mom never got like forced me into
he never forced.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Me to speak, didn't play sports? Did your mom play sports?
Did anybody that is not athletic?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Like I Lily got his Jean's handed down, like I
think she.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
The most she did was like volleyball okay, but like
it was like barely like she always like she was
big on like cameras, like taking pictures suf.

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Speaker 1 (17:50):
You go to college, right and you drop out?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, year and a half there, okay, went from the administration.
College is alone key a game changer because I dropped
out in twenty twenty and COVID had hit okay so
boom so like for a year straight. I had told
myself before I got to college, I said, I remember
September fifth, December fifth, twenty nineteen. I went to Morrisville

(18:13):
State College. I said, every two days I'm a I'm
an uploader YouTube video and every day I'm ana up
though three skits. Because I started doing this skits first, right,
and I went to YouTube. When I went to college,
I was trying to balance them out. I would literally
like like I would literally like edit on my laptop.
I learned how to edit, I edit on my laptop,
order videos, and like by when I was like one

(18:36):
minute until I had to start class, I would run
across the campus, get to my class, enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I didn't really like the learning part of it. But
then COVID hit.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
They had made an announcement like everybody, you gotta go,
and I was like what. And then after I.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Went home, you seem very pleased about that.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
No, but but but I was recording in college was
my content. So I was doing a whole bunch of stuff.
I seen my all my friends. I was recording videos
and they had to go. So like I'm like, oh damn,
Like what am I gonna do? But I had dropped out.
But I told my they want me to do on
line work. I told my mom, I said, I ain't
gonna lie. I can't do on line work. So like
if I might not want to go back, and she

(19:14):
was like, hey, if you could do what you kill
you're doing and to show that you're getting money or
like some type of proof of something going on.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm much with it.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, she's good with it. So she was never strict,
she was always supportive.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah was college. You know, I'm listening to you talking.
You say you weren't that you know, you wanted to
be a class clown. You weren't very good in athletics.
Did you go to college because that's what your mom
wanted to do or did you go to college because
that's what you want?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
No, I wanted to go to college. Yeah, I wanted
to because in New York. Everybody. So in New York
is so different because like we don't have no like
other people, Like, we don't we can't drive a car,
were taking trains and taking buses, were in like buildings
with our living with our families. It's kind of hard
to get like live on your own so early and
stuff like that. So the thought of like I went

(20:00):
upstate and going way to college and your own space.
I shared a room with my little brother for like eighteen,
like eighteen seventeen years, right, the whole time, me and
my little brother, we got to share a room twin bets.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
So the first time going to college, I.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Was like, oh, yeah, I'm out, I gotta I gotta
go see what this is about, and it.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Was it was fired on and show you a little
bit of how you living on your own.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Right. So you mentioned that when COVID hit, you were
always doing videos even before COVID hit. Is that when
COVID hit and you're doing your videos, is that made
you realize that, you know, what what I'm doing in
college is really not what I really really want to do.
I got another passion that I don't know if I
can I can complete if I'm going to school spending

(20:41):
my time on this because what I tell people can
and you can attested there. As a content creator, that's
all you do. You don't do anything. You ain't got
another job. Content creating is your job. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
So, like so when I when I did drop out,
I knew, I automatically knew I didn't want to go back.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
It was like, I got it, I want to make
it you. I didn't want to go back.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
And I was also like trying to already just brainstorm
in different videos. OK, and I was restricted, so my
mom didn't let me like record in the house, but
with my friends and stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
It was COVID.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
So and then we want to do that do outside
in the car, right, So I started doing these car
videos and just stacking from there like so and just
like just pushing out as much stuff because everybody was
at home chilling and just just just waiting.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
You make You said you were doing like prank videos,
like you wanted to be a comedian. Do you want
to be a comedian?

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I mean what now I wanted to I want to
do I wanted to I just skits at first, right,
so I want to do funny skits or something in
the lane of acting.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I always don't want to do.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
That, right, yeah, cab, but them pranks, man, people take
that they were taking me pranks. Do far get hurt?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I stopped because, yeah, I stopped. I didn't prank.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I didn't pranks.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
There was one point in time I did like wired up,
like probably like twenty twenty one. I was going around
doing these wired up pranks. But my was never too extreme, right,
But the only the only extreme prank that I did
was I did like something where I took money from
a tip yard and then paid them like a crazy
another crazy amount, like just pay them a crazy amount
a prank. But people people dumped out on me on that,

(22:11):
and I was like oh, yeah, like that is extreme.
At the time, I say, I was like them, won't
giving them money? Though, why is it extreme? But I
ultimately got to realize, like that was kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
You feel me?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
So I just understood that that was me. I don't
want to do no more pranks unless it was like
all my friends and stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah, pranking friends is one thing because everybody don't
play like you play. Did your mom give you a
time limit in which she said, okay, Kai, this needs
to work by X or you're gonna have to, you know,
go back to school. Never.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Never, She always supported me. She always was there behind me.
She still is. She always made sure that.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
She she she's.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Better positive light on me. When it came to the
videos and stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
God, when did you find your boys? When did you
find that? Says? You know what? This is it? This
is what I'm good at.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, when I was I'll probably say was it freshman year?
I think like freshman year or sophomore year. I had
posted a skit and on Facebook when you get like
a thousand likes at the time, it was crazy, so
I knew like it was crazy, but locally my skits
were like and it's for people that know that lived

(23:20):
in the Bronx locally. My skits was like started picked
up a lot of attention and I was like, Okay,
hold on, I can actually do something. But the skits
wasn't putting out a lifestyle for me in terms of
like like what I wanted to really really do. And
then on from the skits and I went to uh YouTube.
I started doing YouTube, and in college, I decided to

(23:41):
do ding Dong ditch in college and like the hallways
and stuff, I did one. I posted it the next day.
I woke up to like twenty five thousand views, which
is crazy, So I'm like, what the hell spout the
steep woke up the next day it was at like
one hundred thousand. Then I just spammed that and every
time I dropped the new one. It's finally started to

(24:01):
hit like a million a million. It was like hitting
a million views, and I had like Flight was the
first person Flight reactions to YouTuber. He was the first
person to react to my to my ding Dong dish
thing while I was in college. So like, I knew
for a fact, like this is gonna be fire, but
I understood that that at that point in time that
trend I was doing. It was only a trend, and
my subscribers and fan base is only bulting off trends

(24:24):
because I was posting a blog and it would just
through normal like regular numbers, and then when.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I post that, they were like that. So like I.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Knew, but I knew, like, it's definitely something here if
I do.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It correctly, right for sure?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
And so now you're doing that, like you mentioned, you
go from zero followers to thousands of followers and not
everybody's so how do you find your boys? So how
do you go says, Okay, my blogs are not doing
it this, but this is only a trend. I need
to do something that's sustainable, and I need to do
something that not only sustainable, that's gonna come to generate
some money.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, And it's so crazy because I wasn't even like
like the money was cool at the time, but it
was that was my main focus. It was on some
like I did the YouTube and I noticed, like I
was not how do I explain this? Like damn, I noticed,
but I was doing the YouTube.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
It was cool.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
But I would see, like I had a good friend,
I have my friends at AMP, my group of AMP,
and I had a good friend and Feantom and his
people really loved him on his his his YouTube and
stuff like that. And I seen it and I was like, damn,
Like he got like a real base you feel me? Yes,
and like it was cool and I was making I
was making some money. I get a good amount of
money on YouTube. But then I started in twenty twenty

(25:39):
one was when I started streaming and I had what
a PC and it was up from there.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
You mentioned the AMP. It means possible. That's the group
that kind of discovered like your videos and you gotta
join that. So is this a group? And so I'm
helping because I'm not really familiar with the gaming space
and how this thing work. So a MP, they like
they discover you. Did you reach out to them or
they reach out?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (26:04):
So you started where off of the Bronx and another
member named Phantom, Yeah, he's also from the Bronx too,
and I'm assuming that he had just seen my stuff.
So that after we ended up me and had a
good great time and after we uh he longed fast
food a little bit. We had like a good connection
and he was just like he had he Alwys had

(26:25):
a vision of was like yeah, bro, like.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I feel like you you definitely got he seen.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I was like very hungry, right and this is this
is before I started streaming, and he's like this, you see,
I'm very hungry. He said, look, come to Atlanta. I
got these people don't want you to meet and to
see how it is now. I already knew a MP
before I met them, because we're familiar with Yeah, I
was ready familiar with them, but they was already they
already had their own thing going on, like agent Agent

(26:50):
Duke Davis. They started from two K and they already
built like a million plus subscribers off that, just off
two K play in the video game. Then Chris, he
was a great editor, like Chris next door. He was
the editor. He wasn't even a member yet, but he
was the editor of the channel and I and if
it wasn't for him, like a lot of those videos

(27:11):
and a lot and and people wild not be what
it is. He was like behind the keyboard and and
and stuff. Then Phantom he was he's he's on the Bronx,
but he was. He was doing two K first, but
then he was like he was like, nah, I'm gonna
stop doing this.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I want to do I R stuff. So he was
flogging and his bloss was lit, so like he already had.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
A good following.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
They all came together.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Was it was just for them.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
At first it was Duke Phantom, agent Chris. Then when
I went to go link, he got Chris out there
and me. So that after I went. So we driving
in the car and were driving in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
So you drove from New York to Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
No, he was my first time find in a minute,
so like, I'm hype as hell and you getting up
playing you like then I got a great outfit on.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'm just ready to go.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
So I went over here in the plane being Phantom
and it then.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
After we land and then he we get the car
with the rental at the time get the car. So
we got in the car, we driving, we driving. I'm
in a landa for the first time. I'm looking around like, damn,
this is crazy, like airport, big as hell. Then we
got to like agents neighborhood, right, and then I'm in
this neighborhood. Would never I always say this kind of
never forget it. I mean the name I'm looking at
that I'm looking out the window and these houses, big

(28:21):
houses that look I ain't never really see big houses.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I'm looking at Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I'm over here, like look out the window.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I'm like, yo, these houses are huge, like I'm talking
about like some good, good quality homes.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
And we pull up in front of this house.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
It's a nice house and the Phantom but Feo is
moving as if like he don't care, like he done
did this so many times. So I'm like, damn, how
are you like so like chill whole time. I'm like
getting ready. And I already know these people because of
their videos like that. I already watched their two K
videos and stuff. So you pull up to the house
he put in the driveway, we go to the steps.
He knock on the door, Agent open it or agent

(28:58):
opens the door, and he's like he just woke up.
And I'm looking at him like nah. And I seen
his YouTube plaques and I've never seen a YouTube plaque before.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I don't look at these.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I'm like, yo, these is crazy. And then long story short,
they took me to a shoot. Phantom took me to
a shoe. He just said, I was quiet at first
they was filming.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
It was filming.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I was very quiet at first, and then Phantom pulled
me aside. He was like, oh, why you're so quiet.
I was a little nervous. He was like, be yourself, right,
and I just started being myself. They're playing the basketball
game and I was the hype.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I was the energy.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Then they did another video everybody had lost and nobody
and the punishment the person with to punishment has to
jump into a local mall outside of water waterfowl, and
nobody wanted to do it, like nobody wanted to do
it at all, even people that lost, they didn't want
to do it. And I was like, yeah, I don't
want to jump on a water flying like I'll do it,
like I was one willing to do a whole bunch
of crazy stuff. So like I jumped in there and

(29:51):
they was like, nah, he's good. After that we wind now.
It was like it was like three am and were
having good conversations about like life and stuff. And he
was like and after Asian came to me, he was like,
you know how you feel about AMP And at the time,
I'm like I had a fanom. I was like, damn,
I don't want to mess up your chemistry, like it's
so good, like you'll have great chemistry came when y'all together,

(30:14):
so I don't want to get added to it.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
And I don't want to mess up enough.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
And they were like, nah, they took the chance on
me because Duke didn't even like me when he first
met me. Like it's just a i'mtgine, a random person
being vouched by fantom somebody else in the group, and
I'm being vouched, but like you don't know this person,
like you're not sure. So they took the chance on me,
and like we became a group, and that's how I'm
forever thankful for all of them, Like those those like family.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
They're like family to me.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Do you think you could have become what you've become?
The obviously you have. You're extreme le talented, you do
what you do. But what were some of the benefits
that you think of joining the group? Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Man, it was, it was, It was good. It was.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
It was because we had bought a house together, when
I bought when we was renting a house together with
the person.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
And that's big. I never had my own room, my
own space. My mom is not here, like I could
do it. I'm on my own, like be in this.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Lick house together, like a good house and we just
all here grinding. And that was massive for me because
I was able to have my own cre created space.
I had my own space to grow up and mature
a little bit. Also, they it's like they they had
a huge platform. I had my own like little community,
but they had a huge platform and they put me
on the stage and I just displayed my talent. And

(31:26):
that's huge, you feel what I'm saying because that support
base was very solid. So'm I'd be so thankful it
because like I know, I feel like I still would
have I would be where I'm at today, but it
just it would.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Have just took a little long. Sped up the process.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, I just sped up the process. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Do you believe this was the best decision of one
hundred percent? I want one hundred percent. Like I've learned
so much from them. I've grown to like actually have brothers.
I could close my eyes and and and I could
literally close my eyes and I trust them with anything.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I go to them. I talked about them my life.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
They talked to me about life, and I love them
so much, Like without without thumb, it's like like I
started just like if I'm not very away from each
other for too long. It's like I can feel that
we away from too long, Like those really my brothers
for sure?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Did they help you understand the business model of social media?
Because there's a lot people just think, Okay, I just
got a camera, got a microphone, gonna do with X,
Y and Z. But there's a lot more to it.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Whenever I need advice, I go to agents, Like agent
has good financial advice.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
But for the most part, I have learned a lot
by myself. Okay, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
You feel comfortable being it by yourself?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
So do you have to sign a contract or the
verbal agreement or you sign a contract that you wear them?
I mean it was it was it was literally like.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
It was just it was just like there's no like
we're not it was no contract. It's just like literally
us talking about how everything's supposed to go, and we
literally agreed on it.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Like I was just more.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
I'm more was in it for like just like the
experience and stuff. But like there's it was. Everything was
like we don't even look at like a lot of
that stuff. A lot of it was built off like
strictly friendship. It was no contract, It was nothing sketchy.
And that's why I already loved it because it was
like it was just perfect, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
And so how was it like, because, like you said,
you grew up with your family. You're very close to
your family. It was your mom and your siblings. Now
there's no mom and there are no siblings, a total stranger.
You have your own space. Obviously, I'm thinking there's probably
a lot of going out to eat, a lot of
people ordering food income. Oh yeah, nobody cooking.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, nobody cooking. We couldn't afford we couldn't get it.
We didn't have no chef at the time. We own
so he was door dashing and uber eats kings. But yeah,
that's how it was like literally like but we I'm
waking up and everybody waking up, like we all we
it's like six people with the same mindset, so we
all understand what's going on, Like.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Hey, what video are you on it today? Oh?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I bet? What videore you working on? All right?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Bet?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
And we have our own group channel, so we're all
planning out videos. Now we're together instead of having to
do online meetings. We're together and we're able to plan
out these these these videos. So that's that's what that's
what made it even better.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Do you grit? Did you got do you guys prank
each other now? Oh we still do it. It's it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
We the whole firework in the whole fireworks in the house.
We were the first people to just light fireworks in
the house. It's everywhere. For July, we blow up the house.
Even crazy and crazier. Du used to prank me, try to.
He had like thick pair of sneakers and burn them,
make me think they were real. We prank each other
all the.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Time, like literally, you do realize that the problem you're
not gonna get that? Uh that deposit back right for people?
Y'all have mess the people house for what?

Speaker 4 (34:49):
No, yeah, the first the first the first house he
was widing because he was renting that.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, put that.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, it was it was over. Yeah a lot. We
we we live with risk a lot.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
But it it was worth it though, Like the supporters
was the supporters was entertained, like we was fired, like
we woke up. We would go to sleep so like
hype and it wake up like on our tippy toes,
like it was fun.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's it's so fun and it still is.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Do did people find out where you guys lived and
unwanted gasp?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Oh my god, hell yeah, Like even in our first house, yes,
it wasn't as bad as today, but now.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
It's like it's crazy. We got top ten security.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh do you Yeah, your neighbors do your neighbors when
you got when you moved in, did your neighbors knew
who you were?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Currently?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Or on my first house, your first either one? Okay,
so first one didn't know who he was. Yeah, they
had I remember I bought my car out of my
first car at AMGGT fifty three and everybody had these
nice like everybody calls was pretty nice at the time, right,
And it's just rolling in first of all, we know
white neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Like six black kids in this big ass house, cars
coming in and they loud as ship speak in the backyard,
loud a ship You feeling these videos, it's just so loud.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
We actually had a note one time.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
I will never forget it, this note kime on our
door and it said I forgot what it said, but
it was along the lines of like they know, they
said that we noticed his drugs and like cocaine coming
inside of here and like they know that, like we
gotta be selling drugs or something.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
So they had a lot. They had caught the cops.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
They wrote a note in the to the cops, and
the note brought it to us, and the cops brought
it to us and they read it.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
It was online.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
It was, oh, yeah, they.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Got drugs, fancy cars. There's got to be something kept
the cook going on there. And I'm like, oh my god.
It was one time I had to there was kids
so angry. I had gave him a gift basket and
they were upset about it. It's like us over recorded
and they were upset about it. And they said I
was like I'll be broken five years and stuff like that,
and it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, neighbors hated us. We don't got no neighbors.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Like yeah, the way our things set up, we have
best I think we have the best view in in Georgia,
like literally the best view we can see Atlanta. We
can see the whole sky view. But we don't got
any neighbors, so we could do crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
I read that and I don't know if this is
true that you guys got evicted from your in New York.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, he evicted in like three days. Okay, so here's
my theory. Okay, got we got so the guy was
selling that that he was spot. We ended up was
able to tell him that we're rented, and like we
got to where we be able to move in. I

(37:38):
think he knew who we were. He had us do
a whole rollout like shoulder crib, shut a stream there,
and then like five days in he said, now y'all
gotta go, and we didn't even do nothing. Like this time,
we literally knew the precautions to make the part the
limit to go.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
We did not even do nothing.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
And I feel like as soon as like we displayed
and stuff like that gave them a nice tour, like.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
People got interested in it. I don't know if it's sold,
but like he got us out of their asap they
had to switch. That was the worst experience as a group.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I'm not gonna lie in terms of like a streammate
like at the time streaming that we couldn't like that's
my home base. So it's like I don't have madca
you share that had a riot there and all that
other stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
People knew exactly where we was.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
And it was getting crazy, like for real, what do
you like living better New York and Georgia?

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Living Georgia for sure, but like in terms of like
city life and like family and stuff, New York one
hundred per sore per Like literally, I like Atlanta. It
has great property. You can get into like a lot
of good you can find a lot of good houses.
You gotta actually drive your cars out here. You can
live a low key you could be very lowkey out here.

(38:45):
New York is it's kind of tough for me right
now because like everything is so fast, so many people
everywhere and anywhere, like you post or anything, they know, Yeah,
they know where you're at. It's kind of hard, but
like in terms of like like like like the people
around it.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I love, I love New York.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
What made you take your talents to twitch?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Twitch? Because you say, are you originally started on YouTube?

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
I did, I did, but I but like Sheman was like,
in my opinion, shuman is is is kind of like
it's so hard to build on YouTube, like like Speed
was Speed. In my opinion, Speed is like the only
one I can see. There's a lot more of them,
but Speed is like by far, like this that's his own,
that's his whole playground that you like, YouTube is his
own playground, and I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Twitch was just caught at the time. I just I've
just seen a whole bunch of like streamers react to
A and P content.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Like rage, a whole your rage.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Uh who else I seen flight, I've seen a whole
bunch of shremans just reacting to it. And I was like, Damn,
Twitch is lit because like because like everybody's watching it.
But I also grew up watching Twitch too, so I
see a lot of streamers shout out Summit one G.
Summing one G was like somebody I watched Ninja. I
watched Ninja when I was on it, and like, but

(40:00):
like it was a lot of cool people that was
streaming on it, Soluminati, a lot of people, a lot
of people.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, but the kinks because I remember trying to I
was trying to do something on Twitch where like we've
not streaming, not streaming, you're like, like watch it's kind
of like the Manning cast where you watch the game
and then you know you talk like that. But it
was a lot of trying to get the kinks out
of it at the time, and so clearly you guys
have got directified over there, so you guys to you
be on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Too, you're inspired. I like the way y'all.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I appreciate that, man, appreciate it. Let me ask you this,
how did you come up with the like? Because like
all day you don't love me, not all day, but
you're on you're streaming, and you like you come up
with this platforms, like you know what, I think people
have played for subscription. I think they'll pay X y
Z to watch me do this. How did you? How
did you? What made you think of that?

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Well, which alreadily have this subscriptions thing, and like you
just when you buy it, you get no ads. So like,
here's no commercial breaks. You can watch the streamer long
as you want, right, it'd be good for a whole
month if renews every month and then after like I
had this idea.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I just wanted to do thirty day. I just went
to somebody had the world record at the time for.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Subs do love wick did and I personally without a
summer than I had hit one hundred thousand subs, and
like people were being so supportive. I had to get
I got dragged through like a lot of like communities
because people thought I was money laundering. People thought it
was like I was doing something behind the scenes. I
was sketchy, but nah, I was literally just sitting there

(41:32):
and like I was getting like ten thousand subs every stream.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Wow, I was just sitting there.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
It'd be back to back days too, so I would
come back ten thousand, go up, it'd be twenty thirty.
I started posting my picture every time forty sixty and
I did a twenty four hour just to prove people
wrong about like how what they're saying about me. And
we ended up closing it out on a hundred thousand,
like literally live and everybody loved it. And I was like, damn,

(41:56):
like we should do this for a month straight. And
after I did it for a month. So that's what
gave you the idea of the Thorn Mafia though, Yeah,
because it was it was originally called a subathan r
and like like a marathon, but I have put mafia
on it.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Who was the first celeb to make an appearance first one?

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Damn, that's a good ass question stream. Yeah, I'm gonna
say an Chopper.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Okay, say a Chopper. I could be wrong, but I'm
gonna say Anily.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
I think it was is theny celebrity turned you down.
No celebrity has turned me down. I've like it'll be
like conversation and then like we'll get busy. But I
definitely turned down a lot of opportunities just because I
don't want anything to feel forced. Like there would be
so much money for people to try to pay me

(42:48):
to come my stream, but I feel like it's naturally
not organic or there.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Then I wouldn't do it right.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, what celebrity did you meet for the first time
that had you like, Man, I can't believe I'm sitting
next to this person, or I probably.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Say that I couldn't believe that, like damn, we have
a lot, Oh my god, Kevin, But the first one
I was like, damn, this is gonna be crazy. He
was like a little baby. He put up to the
house and then had had had a good stream. It
was crazy, and I ain't like it was insane.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
But I mean, now it seems that even those guys
are doing a lot of streams.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I hear t Pain he's streaming is amazing. Yeah, yeah,
he genuinely loves it too. He's not just doing it
because it's a way of like T Paint is that
is streaming because he actually has a craft and he
has he has a thing where I can just tell
he has laser.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Being focused when he gets when he likes to do something.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
So you feel me like, I'm not gonna lie that,
but people be trying to force it and it's like.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
You can't help me understand kind I mean, I can't
think of a better person to help me understand. So streaming,
so people are watching you play a game, correct, it's.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Like cod or no just watching me talk? Oh okay, yeah,
we talking like just regular. I could just be like, yo,
let me tell you all what's happening today, and then
I'll talk talk, do a fire segment. It could be
a random sement, a horse come in my room, something explodes,
then I go to then I'll I'll be reading what
they like, all the jokes and means that they just
dropping my community. We probably do some community stuff to

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help everybody, and then like wind down and just like
or listen to the album reacts, album reactions into music
or you're not always playing video games?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah okay, so.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, but but definitely video games.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Every streamer has definitely played it.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
I want to say every streamer, but that's that's the
main that's where it started. It started gaming. That was
the first thing and it changed like just being able
to talk for.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
The How did you bick book your first guest? Because
I remember when like when we first started doing club
and c J my ep back there here and I
and I was like, how do I get a guest?
Because I had no idea. We didn't have a booking.
We don't didn't have booking like we do. And he said, well,
just go on your phone and call the most famous
people you know and see if you can you know
when they come on. So you know, I did Floyd

(45:01):
Mayweather and Ice Cube and Snoop Dogg and and and
Travis Kelsey and Rick Ross and so forth and so on,
and then he's like, man, you ought to DM somebody.
I was like, man, man, they might think I'm crazy, CJ.
So I just started doing it. So I'm always interested
to see, Like I don't know if you have people
that book guess for you or you just reach out
on your IA is either.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
I reach out or they hit me up. And when
I see a DM, I'm like, how do you How
did this person know me?

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Because I'm not gonna lie I never and I.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Still don't, but I realize it is that I don't think.
I still I still feel so normal. So when people
do hit me up, I'm like, damn, like you.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Yeah you know me?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Like how you know me? You feel what I'm saying?
So like I be so surprised, like and it's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
What's the most surprising DM you got?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'm a person I'll probably say like Michael B.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Jordan Wow, uh Donald Glover Kevin is big because I
always want to do something with Kevin. It's probably I'm
probably forgetting something. But it's crazy. It get bro, it
gets crazy like bro, you just never know and it

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starts up like like Jonas Brothers, like it would be
the most random. Yeah, it'll be the most random people
because they'll see because like their kids will know about it.
You feel what I'm saying and then think, well, it
would be like NBA players like eye, Bro, I still
can't believe. I still can't believe it, And I'll just
be like how you know me? Like how you feel me?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
So let me ask you this, how do you determine
the games that you're gonna play? How do you come
up with that? Oh?

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Yeah, that's where it gets fun, but my chat decides that,
or like there's usually like a every year. It's probably
like a fun game to play on stream that everybody
plays that that's been one of the games or whatever
most popping right now, or like right now, I've came.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I've came up with a.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Routine with my on my on my community to even
be on some like okay, y'all, y'all, give me a
this a games due and I will stay on stream
until I beat the game. So it's very engaging. It's
a storyline building, like from beginning to end. The first
game I ever played was Read and I think it's
the best single player game of all time Red Dead

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Redemption two and I went all out, so I spend
money to transform my room into the theme of the game,
so that's based on a Western time. My whole room
be Western and all that, and I had like these
little funny like bits and stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
And then after.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
My biggest one that surprised me the most is a
Soul's game called Elder Ring.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
And that's the when you play like one hundred and
sixty seven hours.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
I've played one hundred and sixty nine hours on that game,
and I literally seven. It was like a week straight
and everybody. I had so many, so much people watching
me just.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
On the game. You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
And I was like, damn, Like it's one thing like
streaming and regulating is going crazy. But when the game
of community accepts you for who you are and I
want to see you play, that's a blessing. So I
go all out like I don't care what the prices
for my room to get it done and be entertaining,
like I'm going to give my community whatever they want
every single time. I started doing trailers on top of it,
and I started making my room be fire.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
You feel me? Why do you think, yes, they're so comfortable.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
With you, Cuz it's like you're not here.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
I don't tell them that they're here to do an interview,
Like we don't even talk.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
We barely talk about what they do. You feel what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
It's like, well, you're coming over to my career, right,
You feel me like that's the vibe that I always
want to give because everybody thinks that like anybody can
come on the stream or anybody can do this, and
it's like the chemistry might not be there.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
But I'm just like I just know how to break
ice and I just know how to like I just
know how to have people have fun. Like, bro, we
don't got to talk about like, we don't got to
talk about anything that you got going on right now.
Just relax, sit back, and let's have a good ass
time you feel me and have my friends pull up
and we just have fun. And it's like it's like
my house is just like uh an escape from.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, whatever you want to do, we don't do it,
no cap.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
So why do you think you've resonated so much with
celebrities and entertainers. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I like, I think it's just because like.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I just I just see him as me, like like
like normal humans like and good people, and you would
never see me. You would never see me do anything
for us in terms of like I would never do
a stream with somebody that I feel won't work, like never,
Like I feel like I would never do a stream

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with somebody.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I'll be like I don't think the chemistry is there,
so I.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Don't want Yeah, you don't want to get on camera
to find out whether chemistry is there or not. You
want to kind of have a pretty good idea of
going into it, that this thing is gonna work.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yes, I was scared.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
One person I was scared was Nikki. I was I
didn't know how NICKI was gonna be. But Nikki woul
It's amazing. When she pulled up. She you know what
scary about? Nikki is so real. She put up like
and like was an amazing person the whole night.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
She came late, but like she was made it worth it.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
And to this day without me even like being in
contact with her, she knows.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
My sister and my mom are based supporters.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
She checks up on them to this day like whatever,
send them free stuff whenever, and my sister's her biggest supporter.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
What's your craziest guest experience?

Speaker 4 (50:30):
The probably sleepovers, sleep bowers definitely probably like Kevin and
Kevin and Duski that's like legendary, but those are definitely
one but crazy, like that's crazy everybody crazy. But like
shock with Blue Past and Kashan. Yeah, well she threw
my chair through the wall. It was a shock that
went through my body. It was like, oh, we can
get a real, live real but I had to hold

(50:54):
it in. You feel what I'm saying. So it was
it was. That was the craziest one though, for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I mean, because you don't only do a great job
of de story in your own room, but were you
were you worried about somebody else destroying.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Like, it's one thing if you tell me you about
to destroy the room, it's another thing if you just
do it like you gotta let me know.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
You feel what I'm saying now, Yeah, yeah she is.
She was like, you'll be good. She got me in
my back and said, you'll be good.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
You're rich.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I'm like, yo, what.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah? So you beat hold On? You bet twenty one
Savage three hundred thousand dollars that you could beat him
in Mad Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
He cooked me. I don't to this day. I don't
know how I lost.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
What you mean, how you lost?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I don't know how long he is trash. Twenty one
is so trash if he beats you so because he
was getting in my head.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Okay, so I get one.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I'm in an intense moment.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I literally feel like, like I said, my heart start
beating fast and I sold last play of the game.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I saw that he's so trash. It was Madden and
I lost.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
It's like he's like when there's no money in the line,
I win, But as soon as there's money on the line,
I lose.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
And that's why I don't gamble.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
You don't gamble, no more, No, I don't.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
That's not gambling on. That's a wager. Okay. Gambling is
like you don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Clearly you don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Wait.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Wager is like you got controlling it. You really, you
got controlling it.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
So it's hour to you.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Literally, it's a bat. It's like a bat.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
You put that man his money.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah he got yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, So you done with that?

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah, twenty one height Listen, He'll make sure he get
his money.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I don't want no problem with saying, don't.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Hey another guy that you said that you you you
have a relationship with this little baby. And I heard
him the other day that he lost eight million gambling
in like, oh my god, yeah, eight million, like a
day and a half. Yeah, eight mil, eight mil eight
ms in like forty hours. And he said he had

(52:46):
Michael Ruben write a letter to all the casinos in
Vegas that they banded.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Oh my god, I didn't know that. I didn't know
that that's crazy. I don't want to go down that owner.
Hell no, hell no, that's people going to do it,
and you hit it's crazy and then I don't.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I'm good off that. I'm cause you cool. A little baby,
So what's your favorite moment with baby? A little baby?

Speaker 4 (53:11):
We have like like we're just like cool in terms
of like I had about once in a while.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
He was back once in a while, but we would
get to like.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Hung out one time, but like like off camera, but
other than that, like we didn't get to dy hangout.
I his his kids love me, so his kids want
me at his birthday party and I put up on
him Jason and I put up.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I was like, you know, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
I'm gonna go show some low tes hit and like
I went there and he made it cool and everything
was cool.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
He's a cool guy. Yeah, you made money. So what
did you do your first million? When you first got that?
But the first the money started coming in, you're.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Like, damn, oh would you buy? Damn? What did I buy?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
My first big purchase Yeah, for me personally was my car.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
That was like a huge accomplishment.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
You still got it, still got it.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
They'll got that saying I would never get rid of it.
I love that car, and that was like that was
like my first one, and then my like my, my, my,
my most proud is my mo house?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Like that felt good.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Is she here in Georgia? She's still she's still here.
She's here in Georgia. No, no, she's she lives in
New York, New York.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Ye, but she's here in Georgia visiting, right right?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah? So what have you learned about money? Oh man?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
One, First of all, I'm so glad that I'm naturally
a good saver. I don't like to spend too much,
but I also know I have a have a good
team around me. And I also know, like you should
be purchasing some property. You should be purchasing saying that's
gonna make your money worth it. You feel what I'm saying, Like,

(54:45):
of course you're gonna have your phase when you go
through clothes and all that stuff, but like when you'll
realize it's not worth it, you feel me. So besides that,
like I'm very I would say I put all my
money right back into my content, Like literally all of
it I put right back into it, or unless like
I like clothes or like unless like I get outfits
and stuff, but it's never on though, like yo, you're

(55:08):
you gotta slow down, Like my people advise, like it
was so good. My account it always tells me like
you gotta spend, you gotta spend, you gottapend because.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I like to save.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Yeah, so enjoy, get some enjoyment out of it.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Yeah yeah, you gotta you gotta, you gotta think.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
So I make sure to get some more into like
getting houses or like I like I like watches, like
playing jat watches and.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Now you got that's all ye don't do that. Don't
do that. Don't do that. I mean you're gonna get.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Yeah, I like I got I got more into it.
It's it's it's it's fire like understand. I just I
don't even I got over. I'm glad I was able
to get over, like the diamension stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
I just I just got one last know what I'm saying,
But like it's not as bad as like how I
used to think.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Of it, Like for real, what kind is guilty?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
What's is? What's your guilty pleasure?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
My guilty pleasure?

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I just I love I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I think my Goozie Bucher is.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
I love just watching like YouTube and twitch like I'm
still a view I feel like I'm still a viewer.
Like I love just being on my phone and seeing
what's going on, and like watching movies and reading billboards
and and.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Like different stuffing around the room to get inspiration.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
But like, ain't not, ain't pleasure me more than like
an idea coming to life sitting there by my white board.
It'd be fire because I'd be coming up with the
craziest stuff and I don't know when I'd be the
first thing to do it, so it'd be good.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
What's your what's been your best? And you say you
told me your best purchase has been when like you
feel the best when you brought your mom a home.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
What's been your worst purchase? My worst?

Speaker 4 (56:41):
My worst purchase, hoes probably be my my first chain
of my first watch, Like you had to bust down,
I had to bust down rollly and I had a
bust down AP. I have a bust down AP and
I and I don't. I don't like those those are
like I'm like, damn, like I got these and what
it was though you feel me?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
So makes your question when you fly, you fly charter,
do you fly private PJ? Or do you take something
boom when I fly?

Speaker 4 (57:08):
I love flying commercial because it made me feel like
I don't want to get too bigheaded about myself or
or certain things.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
But I just learned a new.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Trick that no, that I have to find find myself
that nobody will to so like whenever, like, whenever I travel,
it's either for a business opportunity, a sponsorship, or.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
So I noticed that you can request travel fees.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
So like companies are willing to just pay for free PJ,
like like not my out of my money to just
like you, if you want to get here faster, here's this,
people will cover this and things.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
So it's like I just keep using that.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I didn't know that was a thing.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
I just thought everybody just kept paying. But it's like
I didn't know I could just request it somebody else
paying for it. I'm paying for you, but you definitely
but you but you definitely you you you definitely uh.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Get to you have to get to that point. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah,
like this this just started happening. You feel me?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
But yeah, that was the smartest thing I've like I
ever discovered. I was like what you get you.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
In and out?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, you feel me.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
But it got to a point where it's like, you know,
when I do corn commercial, it's crazy like TSA even
be slowing me down, like yo, the streams was crazy,
or like when I'm on the air, when I'm on
the airplane, well are.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
You flying out Atlanta? Why don't you use a private
suite Tier one?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I've seen that is it? Is it? The you got
like a nice little thing and get your shaped to
the commercial?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Right?

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Yeah, I've used it like once or twice. They need
that everywhere they need to do.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I mean they got it in Atlanta, they got they
got it. J JFK. They got it in l A.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
That's it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah they need they need more.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
They really do.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
But I said if it helps, but I do like
flying commercial, but I don't know, like just seeing like
my supporters in person, it's was fresher airplus is.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Like I feel like God still, you know I read
that you turned down sixty million to joint kick. Why
did you do that?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
It was right, man.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I couldn't join Kick at the time because it was
like I got to realize, like not all money is
good money.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Some money.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I think some money that there's some money you can
take and some deals that you could sign that would
that would like literally jeopardize and slow down everything that
you built up for.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Sometimes you gotta just say no, right, this is this.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
It's cool, like it's generational, But I'm not. I'm more
like what am I? What am I stamping on the world?
Like what am I gonna be known for? So like,
I don't even if it don't make sense, I'm not
doing it. They like, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I have such a great community where I'm at right now,
why would I leave it?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Who did you rely on to help make that decision
or was that a sole decision that you made?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Nah? That it was me and God.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
I can tell you exactly what happened twenty twenty three,
right before my Summa than I got a call from Kick.
They say, hey, we got these millions for you to
do fifteen days on Twitch, then come to Kick for
fifteen days and then reveal that you're on Kick. And
I said, I told, I told my team. I said
I can't do it. I didn't want to do it.

(01:00:15):
They hung up. As soon as I hung up, I
got down on my knees and I put my hands
together and I prayed, and I said, God, I just
turned down a crazy amount of money that can help
me for a lifetime. But I just hope you keep
me on the road of staying focused and being able
to achieve my dreams at a natural pace, at my

(01:00:35):
own pace. And he answered, like, I literally just locked in.
And it's like it's like when you're getting money, it's
like you don't. It's like, how do I explain it? It's
like when you get.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
To a certain level, how much more money do you? Yeah,
like you know, like what can I do? What can
I do with the money that I'm making? Then I
needed this because if I if I need that, I
got a problem to begin through that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Right, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
So like I'm like, damn, like I can't, Like I'm
already blessed financially, Like why would I need to do this?
Like why I rather pay the long long game and
a more natural or getting route.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I mean, I mean you turned down that Steff. Steph
makes fifty five of your dak Prescott makes sixty. That's
that's professional high topic.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Yeah, but think about it, though Steph is doing what
he loves. Yes, it's basketball. You getting paid to play
the game that he loves. I don't know if I
would have loved it on cab. You feel me, I this, Yeah,
they're gonna be it's a great uh like streaming platform
and stuff and how it is. But like from my home,

(01:01:41):
I'm rea need to be at and like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I'm not worried about the money.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I just I just built my community and I don't
got to worry about the actus I could get when
I'm already blessed. You feel me, So I just keep
that mentality and just make sure I never lose that mentality.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Have you built your team? It's it's always interesting to
see because obviously in order for you to do what
you're doing, you need a team. But you need a
team that you trust. You need a team that I
don't feel like my team that I have around me,
I never feel that I'm the smartest person in the room,
because if I do, I need to find another people
to be in the room. So I trust my team. Clearly,

(01:02:21):
you trust your team. How did you go about assembling
your team that you put together that Okay, this is
the this is the team that we're gonna go to
the top.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
At first, I had a videographer that I used to
work with and we built up a lot. We built
a lot until we started working. But after I have
an assistant and oh my god, her story is crazy too.
I have posted I'm looking for an assistant, and her
little her little cousin was like, yeah, you know, cod

(01:02:51):
needs needs somebody in assistant, and I think you have
the talk she used to do, like property assistant. And
then she texts me like hey, I'll do it. And
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, damn, okay. I actually
where she lived at She didn't live in Georgia, and
I said, you know what to say the time time
I need to find somebody in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I don't want to move you out here. I don't
want you to come out here.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
You do something like you just fail something, and like
you have to figure everything out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
She said that I'm grown, I'm grown.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Whatever the decision is, I'm gonna take that decision and
I'm gonna live with it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
She had, like I forgot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Her story is crazy, like she she she had like
two hundred dollars. She rented the spot out here to
stay for a test room with me to see how
it would go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
She wants to spot on here for herself.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Got scammed, lost to two hundred dollars, had to call family.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Then they gave her some spare money. She found somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
She found somewhere like just lay her hat at her
first task was and I was like, you know what,
I gotta give her a hard task, so I know,
I said, find me and zebra, and I want to
have hello, like and yeah, like yes, like black and white,
a legit zebra. Find me and zebra. I want my

(01:04:08):
house to be a zoo. I want a live man here.
I want kangaroos, I want zebra. The zebra was the hardest.
I'm like, there's no way she found a zebra in Georgia.
She said, okay, I'm on it. She put up with
a goddamn zebra. And the way she fought to get
the zebra there because it was one up north and
they're like no, no, no, no no, And she was on
the phone like she told me, She's like, yo, I

(01:04:29):
literally have to get the zebra or you're gonna cost
me my job.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Like she's literally on it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
And she got the zebra there, and I was like, yeah,
she's good. If you get a zebra in Georgia, you
can do Yeah, you can do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
So I got her that, and she's like she's she's
like an older sister like I did us go to
her for advice like on life, and like she she's
able to give me advice and we're able to lock in,
like she has the same I could close my eyes
and she knows exactly what I want, how I wanted
when I wanted done.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Like yeah, and I have to rebuild.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
I had to rebuild my technical side with my boys
Daniel and Cebee. They're like ying and Yang, and we
got some more people coming on the team. And my
management is good. They never forced me down the wrong path.
We live, we learn, we keep going. Yeah, we keep going.
We keep everything in the tight, tight circle. So h
I saw what duke he got his car broken into?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
He he goes from South Carolina to Atlanta. He just
poked up and he got his car broken into. But
he didn't care though. He was actually like he has
said that like' it's crazy how he get to say
like he got his lamb boat, his Lamborghini broken into me.
That's a blessing in its own Like he didn't care
though the picture was fire him taking a picture.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
You know, people still be out here. Got to be
gotta be safe. I people move with security and stuff.
Yeah damn, I don't got security with me now.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
But yeah, you get fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Mask. You this endorsements, You have deals with NBA, Chime,
T Mobile, Skims, Indoor Dash. How do you decide who
casting that partners with.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
I gotta use it on a daily or it gotta
just make sense. Like I'm so big on like making sense.
Like if I want to I love Hanes, I said
I loved Haynes Haines.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Got it out to me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
They sent me free Haines Haines stuff. My ultimate one
was Nike. I love Nike. I'm talking about shoes. I
didn't grow up with the best shoes or a gear,
athletic gear or anything. And Nike and the Camaronica I
did not think that was possible. Caron the corner. And
it just has to make sense. If it's a daily
use that I need on a daily that's just the

(01:06:43):
perfect one up. But there's a lot of endorsements and
sponsorships that I did not like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I feel like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Gotta make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
It has to that, and that's literally one of the
biggest things to the blueprint.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Always keep it organic, Yes, always keep it real.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
What fits you?

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
You see what I'm saying. Yes, So, yeah, what have
you learned most about negotiating Because a lot of times,
you know, like we started out with c J and I,
we started with Club Shay Shade, we wouldn't have any advertising,
we ain't have nothing, and then you're getting a situation
in these six and seven figure deals come along. Sometimes
you have to say no, and it's hard. You're like, damn,

(01:07:21):
I mean I remember with CJ, we didn't get fifty dollars,
we didn't get one hundred dollars. And now we're saying
no to six and seven figure deals. But it just
doesn't seem I negotia.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
It's certain things that I don't like hosting, like they
want to everything. Yet yo posts and put a link
in the here, put this on here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yeah, you do this.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Make sure I need forty five slides on the IG story.
What do you start asking too much? It's okay, I'm
gonna tell you exactly what I would give you in deliverables,
but if you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
If we start asking, hey yeah yeah, yeah, you gotta
tag me?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Got tagged? Yeah? Yes, noah. Bro, I'm good, Bro, I'm good.
And it be worth it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Yeah, Like you don't like it'd be worth it in
terms of like making sure that you're like like your
because it's your personal page.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
You don't want to turn into a billboard. Yeah I don't.
I don't even like posting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
On my feed.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Yeah, you feel what I'm saying, Like, I don't even
like doing that cause like, yeah, when it comes with
a billboard, it's like all right, you feel me. But
I do commend people I only would be seeing like
I've been seeing a lot of young folks with both.
I feel like when you get older then you can
start you do stuff like that, you start doing a
whole bunch of side missions and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
You feel what I'm saying, but like, keep it, keep
it good. This concludes the first half of my conversation.
Part two is also posted and you can access it
to whichever podcast platform you just listen to part one on.
Just simply go back to Club Sha Shape profile and
I'll see you there.

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