Club Shay Shay - Lil Yachty Part 1 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you get to a point you need a lady
des You know what, the same age you so y'all
can experience gray hairs together and be old. My mama's around.
I'm just I'm just just thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
You just everybody all my life, grinding all my life,
sacri fights, hustle, pet prison, one slice got the brolic
Geist swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,
all my life, and grinding all my life, sacri fights, hustle,
platic prison, one slice got the brolic Geist swash all

(00:29):
my life. I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I
am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propride of
Club Shasha, stopping by for conversation on the drink today.
Is a creative force who love experimenting with music, fashion,
and business. A trailblazer in contemporary hip hop, a cultural
influence or a leading figure for brands. A global hit maker,
Grammy name, Grammy nominated rapper, multi platinum selling artist, chart

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topplin producer, respected songwriter, multi talented actor, the act to
compose his lyricist, creator, entertainer, host, interviewer, media personality, and
a model, a versual businessman, viral trend center, a new
wave icon, voted one of the best dressed rappers of
his generation, a dynamic force, and he's a homie Atlanta
bread little yachty. Damn, now you that you I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I was fire.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know what, I know you don't drink, so, bro,
we're gonna just water get this thing off right.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Damn, can't get mine enough. Appreciate you stopping my math
of course, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
On snowy day.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh yeah, man, I'm geting this little shape right quickly.
Celebrate the new year with a bottlet bolet shade battle
fort head. Let's get right into it. Thank you for
putting up to the club today. Cut your hair, yeah, bro,
I mean yeah, because a lot of people, a lot
of things are tied to their hair. And you see
when people go to different hairstyles, they're in a different

(02:00):
phase of life and they want to try something new.
What do you what are you signifying? What are you
saying by cutting your hair?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Truth be told. It was just damaged. My hair was damaged.
I kept bleaching it, coloring it, and so it was
just it was real damage. Then I got tired of it.
I had a box, okay, so I ain't had a side.
So I was like, man, I want to I want
to grow my whole hair. And to be honest, I've
been growing my hair since since I was in like
tenth eleventh grade, you know, so like almost fourteen years ago.

(02:28):
So I was like, it's just cut it off. You
tried to do something different, yeah, Like, I mean I
think for so long I was so like embedded into
my hair, and it was like, well, I could never
not have hair. I could never. I could never. And
I think I just woke up one day and was like.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
When you color it, what is the colors? Because you,
like you said, you used to bleach your hair, you
had it red, you had a lot of different colors.
So what what what did your hair mean to little yachty?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean to be honest, man. So I had braids
in high school and they were black and my mom
I got to the age I was able to work
and my mom was like, you need to get a job,
and she wanted me to get a job at McDonald's
at fifteen. And my mom is a businesswoman, real professional,
like she don't she don't play. So my mom was like,

(03:17):
I had these long black braids, and she was like,
you can't go in there with those long braids. You
need to look professional. You need to cut your hair.
I had an interview at McDonald's, exactly right, and I
had never worked before, so I'm assuming, my mama, no,
she talking about she got a good job, you know
what I'm saying. So I'm like, I really didn't want
to because my hair is what separated me from people.

(03:38):
But I was like, all right, my mama, no, she's
talking about. I cut my hair, did the interview, got
the job the first day, and everyone had crazy hair.
I'm talking about they had, man, they had all kinds
of colors and rays. And so I came home and
I was so upset and I was like, man, you
made me cut my hair and everybody got here, you know,

(04:00):
it's McDonald's. And she felt bad. And so when day
we were driving, she was taking me to work, and
she was like, why don't you do something to him?
I'm like, what, she's like colored red? And I think
she don't think I was going to actually do it,
because at the time, you understand, it's like twenty thirteen

(04:21):
it wasn't a thing. You know. The most that there
was in like African American culture for men was like
a blonde patch because Wis Khalifa did like the blonde
patch with the black but colored hair wasn't a thing
for black men. It wasn't like cool or trendy or
or just prominent. So like when I did it, she
didn't think I was gonna do it, but when I
did it, it was like, I don't know, I just

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kept it all the way. And then it became a
point where I knew that my hair was like my signature,
and my hair was what was going to uh yes
and catch people's attention. So I'll never forget when I
wan to college. I went to Alabama State and this

(05:03):
is like twenty fifteen, and still colorful hair for black
men wasn't a thing yet. So I had red hair
and it had braids and it had beads, and I'm
in Alabama, so they looking at you, like.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Red hair, braids, b in Alabama, and.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I dressed different, and you dress different, so they was
looking at you like.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
What are you on?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
And it ain't what I'm on what they thought I
was on. You know, what I'm saying so, but but
I had this thing in my head. I was like, man,
like this is so temporary, this whole experience, like this
something it's a bigger picture for me. It's a bigger
so like because I could have always just cut my
hair and blended in and had a great college experience.
But I was like nah, because see that the thing

(05:48):
was is that on the weekends I would go home,
right or my dad worked for Delta, so like I
would go anywhere, you Like, I'd be in Alabama Monday
through Friday, and after class I'd been la for the
weekend with zero dollars in my pocket, but I flew
for free, so I would get on a plane and
then like go hang out with asat Rocky or like something.

(06:09):
Like I was like I was always could always find
something to do something together.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So like I believed in like my look, my image,
and I just always thought I was cool, right, Like
I've always had confidence since like high school. I was
voted most likely to become famous in high school, like
because I just always had a confidence level and just
felt like, man, I'm not you feel mean right to
this day. So that's the whole hair thing, and for

(06:36):
the longest. I always felt like, man, I needed my hair.
I used to feed away for a long time, so crazy.
In the beginning of my career, when I first started
in like twenty sixteen, I would when I would go out,
I used to I used to think. And at the
beginning it was as well. I used to think people
only knew me about my hair. Like if I would
step out and I had my red brain showing people
like hollo, yeah you like. And I usually feel like Batman,

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like if I cover my hair, like I could just
go out, and for a long time I could. No
one really knew my face. They just knew my hair
until you know, I mean a decade later obviously hair
no hair. Shit. People see my eyes sometimes and be like,
I know who that is.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
So you mentioned your mom has a great job, your
dad worked for Delta. What type of kid were you?
Did you get in trouble? Were you a class clown
or did you always kind of know what you wanted
to do.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I was definitely a class clown. I got I got
in trouble sometimes. I me and my mother got into
it a lot because my mom was really strict. Man,
It's so interesting because we have such a beautiful relationship now,
and I realized that it just had to do it.
She just wanted me to be great, you know. So
I used to think she was like evil, you know,

(07:45):
but she just wanted me to be great, you know.
And my mother's from a different time period than me
as to where like you know, her her parents worked
in steel mills, you know, and then still collegeized. She's
from Gary, Indiana, so like all she knew was degree career.
So when I'm like, I'm gonna be rich if rap

(08:06):
and I'm from like a little suburban area outside Atlanta
where like no one was famous, Like it was like
low to middle income, Like it was just regular, right,
So like she's like, you got like a one in
a million percent chance, you know what I'm saying. But
like I grew up my father is also he's a photographer,
So I just grew up around music my whole life.

(08:30):
And I was outside. I was just outside doing teenage bad.
I mean, you do bad, You're just being young, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
So how was your dad? Because normally the dad is
the disciplinarian and the mom is a little bit more lenient.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So my parents the voice that ate my mom was
the mean one. My dad is the art one.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Ok.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, my dad he was like you know, my dad
got a curl mustache and like gold teeth. He's cool.
So like my dad. Probably dad ass wouldn't kill a spider.
You know what I'm saying, Like my dad wasn't. He wasn't.
He just wasn't like that for real?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Did your mom say, I don't know your father's name,
but Charlie, you needn't get on that boy. You see
him out the.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
One time my dad one time she forced I know
for a fact my mom was up to this. I
guess me and Mamma got into it. My dad came
over and like trying to like so called discipline me,
like punched me in the chest and I'll never get
look at him like really beat your ass like real,
like you ain't you not even like that for real?
But but but I love my dad to death, you

(09:40):
know what I'm saying. But uh, I mean I don't
know the same as anyhow, so you are ain't. No,
I don't know too many black kids that just grew
up perfect because because you're trying to figure yourself out,
you know what I'm saying, Like you're trying to figure
out your way in life. I think in the beginning
of my high school like experiences, I was like trying
to do it my my friends, did you know? Like

(10:01):
I was trying out for football and basketball, and that's
how I realized I wasn't athletic at all.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
How was that football experience?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Oh? Man, I was number like sixty six.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
They gave you that number. You chose that number.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I ain't get to choosing.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh wah, yeah, yeah, you pretty bad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And at the time I weighed like one hundred and
thirty pounds. Okay, so I was had a lineman number
and I was one hundred thirty pounds.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I kept the bench warm, though, you know, I kept
I kept one time. Man, it's so crazy. I got
in probably like two times the whole season right before
I quit. And one time I got in on the
punk return team, and I was on like that first bro.
Usually ball ball shouldn't come this way at all, right,

(10:50):
the ball should go past me. I guess it was
a bad kick, and somehow the ball came out way.
You got it, And I'm like, this is my time.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, get a yachta go yachty YadA.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Since I picked the ball up. Oh man, as soon
as I look before I could pick the ball up
and look up, I was a pancake on that on
that on that field. And that's when I realized, Oh,
I don't like getting hit. I don't I don't ever
want to get hit like this. So I think that
was I think I resigned after that game.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Actually, so you really was only like playing sports because
your friends played, or to try.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
All of my best friends are super athletic, you know,
like like to this day, all well not all of them,
but a good amount of them. They play.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
So like.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I just wanted to, Like I've always been a brother guy,
you know, like my brother, my big brother, he wasn't
really in my life, and so like I always wanted brothers,
you know what I'm saying. Like, uh, so I say,
I'm so adamant on friendship and like that, so like
sticking together brother ship, that's what you're own ship. I'm
on it, I'm on this, we on this, this with
we on You don't like him, I don't like him,

(11:55):
you know what I'm saying, Like that's that's the type
of guy always was, you know what I'm saying until
I got a little older, and I'm still like that.
But I got the older and started realizing.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I started thinking, for yourself, I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know what I'm saying. Then I joined the yearbook staff,
and fucking I started doing that. I was the MC
for the school, so I did the pep rallies all
those school things, and I kind of like hyped up
the school. And then that's when I was like, I
always wanted to do music because I've been around it
my entire life. My father he shot everybody, you know,
so uh, but doing those pep rallies it helped me

(12:28):
like realize, like, I ain't scared of no crowd, and
I know how to turn them up.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
So, yeah, did you play any other sports other than football?
Or you would tempt any other sports?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
No? Football was enough, seriously and like and practices the
whole like y'all both play on the ground and jump
up and gotta run towards each other.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I hated that.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh you like the Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I want to be in a different different state, different city,
and putting in Oklahoma? Where got that ship? Bro? That
ship was not comfortable. I'm a comfortable guy and that's
not that's not the physical contact. I'm mental.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Okay. You mentioned you worked at McDonald's. You had a
job at six Flags, and you altered clothes for money.
Yeah let me let me start with the altering of clothes.
Did you take home mac you saw your mom, you
saw your grandmama. How did you come in?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
My mother taught me out of sell Okay, because at
the time, see this so crazy how fashion is. At
the time, big pants was in style. Everybody worked big clothes. Yes, right,
this is right. This is like right after like the air,
like your jerk and stuff. So skinny stuff started to
come in. And Adidas used to have track pants. They

(13:45):
used to have a classic track pants or the Didas
track pantsfore they made soccer pants. Yeah, they were, you know, loose,
original Adidas track pants loose. But I was in the
skinny cloth. I was like, I want my Dita pants
to be skinny. So my mom used to do them
for me, and I used to ask her so many times.
She taught me how to sew so I could have
I was the only person at school just with like

(14:05):
skinny jogger sweats because there wasn't a such thing yet.
And then it became so trendy at my school that
everyone be like, how'd you do that? And I'd be like,
I made them. So I started making money off of
altering excuse me, people's clothes. You know what I'm saying, Like,
you know, ten dollars, fifteen dollars, twenty dollars to get
make everybody's past skinny, so I like them there, come

(14:25):
home with a book bag full of pants, so everybody
pans up, make them all skinny, bring them back to school. Yeah,
And that's how I paid for clothes. That's how I
bought clothes.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
So you kind of always been had a hustler's mentality.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I always liked things. You can't get things off of
being funny, something.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Like I ain't gonna be no comedian.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well I mean shouts out to the comedians, but like no,
you know what I'm saying. Like I was like, I
was so young, bro, and I was like, man, I
got it. I like clothes. I always love clothes, So
I was like, man, my mama didn't buy me in
high school. Once I got to a certain age, my
mom was like you you you're you're kind of like

(15:09):
you're older, and and my mom lost her job when
I got in high school, so she wasn't working, but
it was tight. Yeah, So like I had to find
for myself and I want to go out on the weekends.
I want to go to the games, I want to
go to the movies, and I had to make it happen.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
You mentioned early on that your mom you get your
haircut to go work at McDonald's. So what were you
a cash heer? You a cook?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I was on I was on a grill. They let
the prettier like the women be on the on the cash. Okay,
well it's McDonald's. Ain't nobody really Dad hit me down,
no offense, but like, uh yeah, that job was cool
though they was mean as hell. You know, when people
hate their job, they'd be a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
But then why you work? And I get that all
the time you added to your place, you don't just
don't come back.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Because it's the only thing you can get maybe possibly potentially,
and you got to pay your bills. You know what
I'm saying, a lot of people don't like people. I
think people be like people. I think a lot of
people settle in life, yes, and.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
So I just don't work with a lot of things, relationships.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
And relationships, baby parents. I think I think people just settle,
you know, you take what you can get because it's
comfortable and it's there, and I don't know, it's so funny.
I'm so not that way. I will not settle for nothing,
and I never would settle ever, because life is so short, right,

(16:40):
you know what I'm saying. You live and then you die,
So why not do it how you want to do it?
You know what I mean? Whether you rich or you know,
barely getting to buy your means is you're still entirely
to your life.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Did any of these jobs overlap? You mentioned you had
the job at McDonald's you're doing, you know, some alterations
for a kid at school, and you worked at six Flags,
So did any of this overlap?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah? No, I worked at MacDonald's at fifteen, and then
I worked at six Flags at sixteen. But when I
worked at six Flags, I worked for during the fright Fest,
so it was only one month. It was like October.
I worked on a hounted house. It's like a ghost.
I would pop out the locker room. I popped out
the locker That was cool, though just working wasn't really

(17:26):
for me, you know, because I had goals. Man, I
had goals. I had dreams. I was like same with school,
right like I was in college. Like just I had goals.
I used to fear cubicals like I feared. I was like, oh, man,
I can't be in a cubicle. What a neighbor named Joe.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
A part of Joe?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I can't be next to with Joe, no offense to
Joe's around the world. I personally just I like freedom,
financial freedom, You like independence, you like going and coming,
you like moving that you all? I mean yeah, I
like to wake up when I want to wake up
and see when I want to go to see, want
to eat what I want to eat, and want to look.
I want to look. You know what I'm saying type ship,

(18:16):
you know? And I like what I like. I don't
like no. I do not like no, although although there's
no life without no, you're gonna get know sometimes. But
I really refer to not hearing you.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Mentioned working at McDonald's. But you know, you get good
food at McDonald's. You know you get burgers.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I hear you.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You know, so what you eat McNuggets or Pauls?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
You know, me eating over here, I don't do that.
I like chicken, okay, yeah, chicken. I don't eat fishes,
no fish, Okay, do they have chicken sandwiches? Back in
chickens make chickens and chicken nuggets and fries I ain't
even eat at the time. I eat fries now, but

(19:01):
back then I didn't eat fries. But yeah, my diet
is been.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
All that free food they got that you ain't eat nothing.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
But I hated though. I ateed me chicken every single day,
thank god. Damn man got tired. Man, I hate that
shit every day. Bro, it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
You go to college, attend Alabama State? What made you
if you kind of knew early on? I'm listening that
you talked and were only like ten fifteen minutes in
this conversation, and I get the impression that you kind
of knew school wasn't for you, but you went anyway
with that for your mom.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, it was for my mom. But also
it was like when I graduated high school. The day
after I graduated, I told my mother, I'm moving to
New York and I'm some of my rap dreams.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
And she cried.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
She was crying, and she was on the couch and
she was crying. Never forget it. So, yeah, all right,
I'm out. I packed her bag and I flew to
New York. I got like twenty dollars in my pocket,
uh an EBT card, and uh my man let me
sleep on his couch in Harlem. And I did that

(20:02):
for like four months until like I was just so
broke that so I was like, I got mind you in.
I tried to school out. I think I enrolled in August.
I dropped out by November, and I was even quarteryati
I was raised by March. So it worked out.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
But you mentioned that you were depressed in college.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh man, it was the darkest. Was that darkening? I'm
trying to think it was probably the darkest time. Yeah,
Am I still in the darkest time I've been through? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah? What what was so depressing about college? Was it
a situation that you know, you didn't belong, you didn't
want to be there. You was doing this for your
mom because now I want to do this, but I've
got to take a transition and do this in the meantime.
What was so depressing about it? Because women, you I'm
gonna be around that minute right there, yo.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Be hey girl, that's you true and it's so crazy
that that was why I was excited to go. But
I was such a I looked so different than everyone
at the time. They I was treated like an outcast.
I had like with two friends there, and I just
felt like I didn't belong. Had I been at Georgia
State or FVIT in New York or you know, like

(21:21):
a school where it's just more diverse and like, it's like,
you know what I'm saying, So like, I think a
part was that I felt like such a standoffish character.
I really wanted to do music. I had such strong
belief in myself, and it was hard to do from Alabama. Yeah,
you know, I had friends that were like on social

(21:48):
media kind of bubbling and like doing a thing, you
know what I'm saying. So it's like, man, I'm seeing
my homies kind of pop and do their thing. I'm
in school. It shit sucked. I was broke in Alabama
and Alabama and no cars, like walking on dirt roads
type of shit. I ain't enjoyed it. I didn't even

(22:09):
like it just wasn't mine. I wasn't even really what
about the party in college, you know, the party be popping. Man,
it's so crazy. I went to one party in college
and I hated it. Bro. I was like, I was
in a corner. I was sitting in the corner like man,
because I just thought about bro. Before I went to college.
It was like our neighborhood had a lot of kids
in it. You had the kids that were older, that graduated,

(22:30):
went to high school, and they were graduating or dropping out,
and they were coming right back to the house. So
you're at home and you got that or she the
paper and you still ain't got no job. It was like, God, damn,
you got that and you're still here. I can't And
me and my mom got into it. I was like, Bro,
I can't go back there with that. On top of that,

(22:52):
being there with no debt is already stressful. Being in
mama house with that, that's crazy. I would never make
it this place, you feel me. So I was like, man,
I have to give this shop. I would have never
forgave myself. I didn't if I didn't give myself a chance.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
So you leave Alabama, you come back home temporarily, and
then go to New York. New York was before, so
you went to New York before. So once you went
to college and came back. You stayed Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, I told my mother. I was like, Mom, I
need an ultimatum. I need you to give me a
year off because I started school. But the way my
birthday is set up, I was just younger. I graduated
at seventeen, so I was younger than everyone. So I said,
I just give me a year. If things don't work out,
I'd go back and i'd be eighteen. I'd be the
same age as everyone else and freshmen. So just give

(23:39):
me a year. And I did it in less than
half in the year. But yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
And so what did your dad say? What was your dad?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
My dad wasn't against it. You know what I'm saying.
My dad didn't. He didn't go to school.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
So I mean, you're like, I'll follow your man.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, well noah, I wasn't doing that, nah, because I
wanted to be great. Not that my dad was great.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
My father's a king, but he chose a different path
through that. You wanted to make You wanted to be famous,
You want to make lots of money, you want to
be rich.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, and I wanted to do something bigger than me,
bigger than what I thought I could do. You know,
bigger than with anyone around me, thought that we could
do and just make it out.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
How did go into New York help y'alli's music career?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Going to New York helped me in several ways because
of the people that I met along the way and
just they'stilling, like getting it out of my mother's house,
you know, Like I was always so independent, so I
was always like doing me, you know, so being that
far away from home, my mom had a curfew. My
mom here and play. You know what I'm saying. So

(24:52):
she used to give me a curfew and she used
to I just needed to spread my rings, you know.
And it was so crazy my whole belief in the beginning,
because like I could rap, but I didn't think I
was like the best rapper. But my whole belief I
was a banking on my appearance. Like I was literally
just banking on the way I looked, the way I dressed.

(25:14):
I was like, I'm cool. I know, I'm cool.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's what was going to sit you apart.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, I feel like rappers like more than half is you,
your parents, your persona, you know, and then the music
is like the other portion, you know, like stars I
made from the embodiment of a spirit that is unusual

(25:41):
than the common ground of people. You know, that's why
people treat celebrities a certain way because you can't fathom
that person where it's like a voice that makes you cry,
makes you think about other things, or a person on
screen that just like made you feel them you almost

(26:02):
you just feel like that. But we are regular people.
But it's the character, and it's the image and the
energy which makes stars. You know, like because you got
people who make hits who love that song, who made
that song? You don't know because they don't have the
look or the image or the embodiment. So it's all

(26:25):
about your persona and how you carry yourself and the imagery.
The imagery is so important in entertainment, you know, the
imagery of a person because it's how we remember people.
You know, we remember you about brown alcohol and smoking,
you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying,

(26:45):
Like you know, and you know, getting women and tight clothes.
You know what I'm saying today You live loose of today.
But like, just even you think about the biggest people,
they have characters to them and like just like you
can call out things about celebrities or stars, and it's

(27:08):
just based on how we are as a person, which
separates us from the next rapper or the next athlete,
or the next commentator or the next actor, actress, anything.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
So, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's just that's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
You know, you you were in New York and you
you were critical of New York fashion because you like,
New York is behind Atlanta. Now you know that's not
gonna be well received because New York is supposed to
be you're talking about when I said the New York fashions, Yeah,
it was so crazy?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Is that that was taken out of context?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
What I said was I was talking to Cash Cobaine,
and I was telling him that his friends, his friend group,
his type, like kids guys can't dress, you know what
I'm saying. So I was saying, like I love New
York dearly, you know what I'm saying, Like my my, my,
my kid was not anymore, but she was there. That
was like, I spent all my time in New York

(28:03):
and I still spend time New York. I'm in New York,
damn there every other week. You know what I'm saying
I'm outside, so like I didn't mean it like New
York people can't dress. New York is the capital of fashion.
I was speaking on a specific demographic, right, yes, And
then I went on to say, like Atlanta people dress better,
and I was really honestly just talking talking about myself

(28:26):
for real, f you know what I'm saying, Like I
ain't you know, but Atlanta got some some fly people,
and we got a fly styles. But I was really
speaking on myself. It's so crazy people come to me
every day about this. Why I see things about the
whole New York can't dress. I didn't say that I
and I definitely wasn't pertaining to all of all New
Yorkers talking about I embody fashions of New York, you know,

(28:50):
not today, but like usually I'm in some tyms and
some big pants, right or some gene shorts. So I
think people took it out of context. I really don't
care though, Like I mean, it is what it is like,
but that's not what I said. I was really talking
about cash Is homeboys and the way they dressed and
like it's like like that crowded, but it is what

(29:12):
it is because that's what they say, there's like, you
keep on talking about New York, but you dressed like
a New York Yeah, I do. Like, yeah, I love.
I love the history of New York fashion, especially in
hip hop. I think Dipset was sick, you know. I
think I think Rocky is one of the best dressed.
I think a lot of people from New York. I

(29:32):
think it's great fashion. Apper Dan, I mean I could go.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
On the shorts and the teams like that.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I think that. Man. I like to say that I
brought it back.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I do.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I will say that everyone do that ship now.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Because Jada Jada big on the shorts of the teams.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, yeah, Back a couple of years ago, I had
the Genie shorts and people used to clown me. People
was clowning me for Genie shorts and teams. They like
it was on my ass. And now it's such a
prominent They.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Came back because you know, back in the like the
nineties and early two thousand, everybody teams, I mean Tim's
in every color from the from the brown to the black,
to the red to the green, the blue. Everybody had
the teams in every color, and they kind of went away,
but they're making a comeback.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Now, it came back for sure, so you you back
rocking them again? I never I never stopped. I was
still bro' I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
That's probably what messed up my hips, wearing them damn
heavy ass teams.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Well you do, that's possible. It's pobab could it could
also be playing football, but.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
You know what, why you bulljib? That might be it.
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(31:45):
Let me ask you a question. The Jim Jones challenge.
You said for one thousand dollars, and I guess he
meant you could take a thousand dollars. I want to
do he would take a thousand dollars? And who can
dress the flies?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
We wanted to make it a show, Okay, we wanted
to take a thousand dollars. Okay, set a timer, right,
and then go out into New York, right and see
who it's.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Like one of them shows like shopping. You know how
to give you like thirty dollars and you got to
make a great meal, So you're gonna take a thousand dollars. Okay,
you got to put something together.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Do whatever you And who can make the best outfit
with a thousand dollars? In X amount of time. We
never did it, but it would have been fun because
because after the ordeal, I got on the phone and
like all of my New York friends, you know, and
just people that I respected from New York from I

(32:30):
talked to Royky and I talked to Osiris, and I
talked to Bari, and I talked to Nast and Jim Jones.
And because I was like, I don't want to I
want to make sure niggas don't really think that's what
I said, Like these people I'll be around for real,
for real, you know, and I respect, and so I
had to make sure that that wasn't the mob. But

(32:50):
they none of them took it that way, you know,
just people who it's so crazy way and that is
bro people you take like, I'm sure it happened with
this thing, a clip of something.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
To get absolutely and that's the no one to go watching.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
No, no, no no, and it will get taken in
turn into a whole different ordeal.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yes, it happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, absolutely, did you listen to the whole video?

Speaker 3 (33:12):
No, I just saw the clip.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, sometimes see the Clint just read the hell Yeah, yeah,
it's crazy. People just take a picture and put the
words over the picture. It's crazy, bro, this is the
world we're in.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
How did you get the Easy the modeling contract with Easy?
Was it a casting call? Did you have the hook up? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I had a friend okay and he worked with Kanye West.
And it's so crazy. That's when I was living in
New York and uh man, I was so broke. I
had no money, know nothing, and he was just like
come falls and had I pulled the and he just
he just he kind of like had the power to

(33:54):
put me in it. It's so crazy because if you
watch that thing, they had a curtain over us before
or the show started and I was in the back.
I was on the last road, in the back, behind
all the people like I'm talking about, Like I was
still happy to be there, but I was like, nothing's
gonna come from this. Yeah, yeah, YouTube and last second
you know him and like they took me and they
put me right in the front, right right before the

(34:17):
curtain put off. They put me in the front, in
the front row. And and I like to say that
that really did help my career. It just put a
lot of eyes on me, you know. It kind of
made it a thing like man, who was this kid?
Who is this? And so that was cool?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, you know what you mentioned? Uh and you mentioned
an Asap bout three or four times? How do you
an asap become friends.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Same person that put me in the in the in
the Kanye thing. When I was in high school, I
was They used to call me when I was in
school on FaceTime and like I remember one time, I
was like I just got out of school. It was
like an evening after school or something like that, and
him and Tyler the Creator and like all these guys

(35:04):
called me. And I was around all my high school
friends and I said, what the you know what I'm saying, like,
and but it was just I had a homie that
was like kind of telling him like kind of just
brought me around, you know, And I did my own
thing though. You know, I always tell people, like it's
cool to like have a handout or have somebody in
the industry. But people will always pay more attention and

(35:27):
respect you more when they find out about you on
their own, you know, when their eyes come across you
on your own versus someone like yo check out such
and such, Like if they just doing it, you making noise,
if you just outside and you making noise, people will
pay more attention and respect it more, you know, because
people respect when they found something theyself. And I think
it's cool, you know, versus like I mean, I think

(35:48):
you can still get to respect when you know, if
somebody of good taste refers to you. But when people
come across you on your own, man, it's like it's
just a different energy. So that's why I was like, man,
make noise, make noise. It's easy to make the way
that the Internet is connecting. That was so easy to
make noise. Just be original, authentic and take a shot.

(36:11):
Take a shot and separate yourself.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
You know. In that show, was that your first time
ever meeting Kanye? Seeing Kanye, did you get an opportunity
to interact with him?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Nah? I didn't, mm hmm. That was the first time
I saw him. I don't even think I saw all.
I saw him right before we went out. He came
and checked all our outfits right before I ran out.
But we went out. But yeah, I ain't say nothing
to him at all. I ain't speak to Kanye for
like a couple months after that till he invited me
to his studio. He went to sign me actually, damn,

(36:43):
you're like, oh, all of a sudden, you supposed to
be in the fashion show.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
You had the back to pull you to the front.
I mean, hey, you moving at wharf sbeed. Now you
go from being at the back to the front to
potentially be inside.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I mean from just being in college, like, yeah, I
think I had, but it wasn't. It wasn't overnight.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
But if out like it, you know, a lifetime sometimes
feel overnight.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah yeah, I mean I'm about to be thirty now.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Bro, wow thirty?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Whoa? You only got so many summer's left.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Y'all a on the way out the door, So I
get it.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
You know what I'm saying, y'all tell you something My
grandma used to say, what the tree is leaning the
feathers don't always fall first.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
That was so country. Hey, when you driving your car,
you think about it. Yeah, yeah, damn, that was some country.
The tree leaning the furthest don't always fall first. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
See you're thinking I'm already out the door.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, hey, it's possible. But I'll tell you what. I'll
tell you what brown licking it's gonna keep leaning at
your but shouts out.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
What you're saying. I only got one life.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Amen, and I and I respect we only got See
that's the thing, right, It's like it's where you gotta
find it. This balance. You want to find this healthy
balance between living a good life and responsible and being
healthy and taking care of yourself and and understanding that
you only get to do this once.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
And it's once is enough.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Absolutely. But if you get so caught up in oh
I gotta be healthy, Oh, I don't need to go
out all. You know, if I go out and have
a good time, I could get hurt or something could
happen to me. Or you're like you damn, there go
your whole life. You'll be ninety and be like, damn,
I didn't do nothing.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
A bubble fearful.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, you gotta. You gotta enjoy yourself. You gotta put
yourself out there. You gotta really experience like that's all.
When I always think about marriage, I always think I'm
going off top of my back. Like when I think
about marriage, I always think about whenever I do finally
sit down and like am ready to settle down, I'll
have lived that life, won't have any curious bone in

(39:01):
my body about doing anything. Like with some type of women,
or with multiple women or whatever, because I'll ben I've
lived that life, and that life is that that life
has passed me is beyond, it's behind me. You know,
when I find someone I do respect and want to
settle down with, I won't have any like I respect,
but I'd be very curious on people who like meet

(39:23):
in high school and like that's the only person you
have been with, that's the only person you ever did
anything with. I respect it, but it strikes curiosity to
me because I'm just I feel like, does the human
brain or does that, like the human emotions not wander?
Does it? And I think it does a lot of times,
but maybe just the security and like that person under control. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not I'm not there, you know, I'm not there,

(39:48):
but I want to be there because I do. My
grandparents been together like fifty some years and I asked
them at Thanksgiving last last Thanksgiving, I how do y'all
do it? And they both said space. You know, they
give each other space to have their own time, and
they live their own lives. You know, they you know,

(40:12):
do their things. You know, whether it's like his hobbies
is his hobbies and her friends or her friends and
they live life.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
A lot of happens that they get older. They live
in the same house, but they don't sleep in the
same bed.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
They really just like pals, roommates.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
They have raised the family, that got the kids, they
got the grand kids, and that's just all about us.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, and if it works for them, it works absolutely.
I think that.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah. Well, let me ask you this, how do you
go from modeling in a Yeasy show to making music
with Kanye? How the hell did that happen?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Man, you got a funny boy. I thought I had
a funny voice, that you got a funny boys. I
saw an animated character said, but how did it happen?
How does anything happen in life? Chance, I guess, and.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Preparation meeting opportunity.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, and I guess when you want something and you
just go for it. I think everything that's happened in
my life I wanted and I told myself or like God,
like hey, I want to do this. I want to
be at this, I want to be in this place
in life. I want to be here. I want to

(41:38):
live like this. I wanna I want to I want
to look better physically, I want to whatever I mean,
whatever it was, I set that goal out. I didn't
just like lacks of daisical go through life that guy. Yeah,
like I'll do it one day, Like I said, I
need to do that. I want to do this, And

(41:59):
I guess it kind of helped me clear pathway, you know,
especially early on. I've done so much now, you know again,
like I always say.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Young Gajoe, you say you're about to be thirty and
you've been having that You've been on this journey since
he was seventeen. Seventeen.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, seventeen is when I really truly started. I'm twenty seven,
IM about to be twenty eight, so like it just
happened so fast. But I did so much at a
young age, and I feel like I'm not even at
like I'm not even close to my peak. Like I
feel like I got another like twenty years of just
doing it, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
So yeah, what about this? Uh there was a social
media comedian that used your song in want to Be.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
One to skits callon Fox was his name, and you
felt that really like it jump started everything. Yeah, it
was like it was just the first viral moment involving me,
and it took it just took the song through the roof.
But again at that song was connected to some like
random guy who just like just made a record, it

(43:06):
would have just been that song, but it was you
with the red hair, with the image with the with
the other songs with it, And like I I continuously
hit that pot, you know, like I ain't just had
put that out and like that I banked off that.
I continuously hit that pot, you know what I'm saying,
Like and tried and everything didn't work. But like I

(43:27):
tried even to this day, it don't work, you know,
Like I don't.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
You gotta be okay with that.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Failure happens, right, But if you continuously do the same
thing that you succeeded at, eventually people will get tired
of it and eventually you would get thrown to the
curve because people grow in life, right. No one is
the same for five years, yeah, three or one year?
You change, right, Like say.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
He had to keep reinvitting himself.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well, I just it's just for one I liked so
many things, so like I didn't even want to do
the same thing. But you just got to think of
by the end a standpoint from like you heard a
great song, right, and the song is a hit record.
And at the time when you had that song, you
was dating this chick you loved she loved it. Y'all
loved it. Y'all rolling together, y'all heard if y'all are eating,
y'all heard of y'all. This is our jam, we vibing,

(44:12):
we at the club, this is our record. You break
up with her, man, that is, I don't want to
hear that anymore. Right, you got a new girlfriend. I
don't want to hear that record anymore. Or like or
or the song came out. And man, when that song
came out, man, you was gang banging right and and
and you was just like you you love scraping the pot. Man,

(44:33):
you was making crack from two A to five and
you just was you. Crack was your thing. You had
crack and then you sold it. Then you met Jesus, right.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Right, Jesus, I don't want to do that no more.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Right, So now you're like, ah, man, this remind me
of that time, and like well even with clothes like man,
when this song came out, man, we dressed it like this,
and so you just got to keep going. That's why
Kanye West, it's such a visionary you know. That's why
Drake is such a visionary. Tyler the creator, such a visionary.
They have always reinvented the wheel jay Z. You know,

(45:12):
like these guys are like they they're with the current times,
you know, and that's why they'll always be respected and
looked at in such a highlight.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Prior to that comedian using that song in a skit,
did you know who he was?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
And I think I only met him one time, but
I've always showed love to him socially, you know. I
hope he's well. I think he's from San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
You break him up a little something.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
God, he never asked you got a close mouth. Don't
get fat.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Now, I gotta got something coming for you.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Bro. They're not okay, that's okay. I don't even know
who he is right now.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
You'll he'll know where you are, it will I bet?
I bet the look bet the older rappers, uh, they
was they weren't feeling you?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
What it on?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
What is it about all of us?

Speaker 1 (46:15):
It wasn't just me. They weren't feeling our generation. Yes
it was. It was a clash. It was a divide,
I think. But I mean, let me ask you a question.
When you see all these yards, I think before you
started like really killing it on TV and you got
this beautiful podcast and you're making a beautiful name for
yourself and your second life. All these athletes coming in

(46:36):
and you may not have been that guy because they're not.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Athletes who was like, yeah, Anya, you see it all
the time. They be hating O the younger because they're
making so much money, right, I mean, I was like
the Pro Bowl and now they make like one hundred thousand.
We made five thousand for the losers, ten thousand to
the winners. And you see guys making sixty million. They
getting two hundred three hundred million dollar contracts. But when
I came along the money that I was making, the
guys in the forties and the fifties weren't making that,

(46:59):
so they could have he'ud have been envious of us
push it forward. I did what I did. I moved on.
I'm good. I'm happy for the guys I tricked for
Travis Kelson and Drunk and all those other guys I
had my time I was born. Yeah, mom, you mean
to tell me my mom had me she was twenty five.
I was like, mom, you couldn't wait to thirty thirty two,
So I could have got some of his bread. You're like, nah,

(47:20):
I was done. I was done. Like I started at seventeen,
I was done at twenty five. But no, I've never
been a jealous jealous type. And I see that a
lot with rappers. I see a lot with athletes and
other actors and actresses. Oh, let these young people. You
had your moment. You can't stay. You can't stay on
top of fifty sixty years.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I think everyone doesn't have that mindset. And I think
that it came around I think. I hate saying I
think so many times, but I believe that people just
didn't think we were here to last. It felt like
a fad at first, man, because it was it wasn't
It wasn't caper him comprehensible. At the time, we were

(48:04):
just like kids with colored hair, and we dressed different,
and hip hop stood for something different. At the time,
it was more like it was trap music. It was
the streets. It was and it's still those still play
a big part in it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
But the Internet, now, yachty, it can happen just like that,
and they had to take step by stepping. Yeah, club, yeah,
you have a little song and it gets catch you
get picked up on on TikTok or get picked up
on something, and.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
It's a good and a bad thing, right because now
we have a lot of like circulating. It's the same
with even with the podcast. It's just like what the
everyone being able to have a mic now, it's just
like a lot of ignorance gets spread widely quickly, And
that didn't used to happen, you know, like when you
had to get watch TV and you got you only

(48:54):
heard music on the radio and on TV. It was
a lot harder. Yes, you know, even like getting news.
That's why we get so much false news now because
anyone can can can just publish it. But that's life,
you know. You gotta roll with the punches, you know,
you take the good with the bad.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
You know they call it mumble rap. Did you ever,
I mean, did did they ever make you question yourself?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I was never mumbling right ever, Like I understand it
was like a lot of a lot of the peers were.
I wasn't whether I was like rapping at the highest
level or not. I never mumbled. It was never like
a part of my like thing. But whatever I was, like, bro,

(49:39):
I really made money.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Oh, I believe it.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
So with the With that being said, like I negative
feedback never really bothered me. It just tickles me a bit,
you know, like all the narratives that I ever see
a by myself, Like there's a narrative online. It's so
many narratives by its narrative that the colorist tickles me. Right,
I'm not a color at all, Like that makes no sense.
But I'm just private about my dating life. Yeah, but

(50:07):
the people I have been seeing with have been rather
rather on the lighter side. Yeah, yeah, you kind of
like them little I got That's who I got caught with.
I got caught on the lighter side. But like I
like the hall walks of women. You know, I got caught. Yeah,

(50:29):
I got caught walking light right and right damn white
kind of tight.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
But but you like what you like.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
But I like all things. Yes, Like I'm not I'm
not a freaking colors right, And I don't I don't
know where this narrative came from, Like I don't know
the people women just think I'm a bad guy. Really Yeah,
it's crazy. I love women. Yeah you curiously though.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Now, but you know what you mentioned something earlier, you
mentioned like you never want to stay the same and
you're always trying to constantly involve. So how were you
when did that thought? When did that come to your head? Like, man,
you know what, I'm doing this and I'm doing really
good at it, but in order for me to be
able to sustain and grow, I need to improve in
certain area failing.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I ain't had a hot career for ten years.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I had some down periods. I had periods when like
I was killing it and I was like making the
most money I haven't made. Then I had periods when
in my money cutting half, like my show prices cutting
half in that attendance at the show's cutting half, and
my bill on festivals went up. You know, I went
from performing later to performing higher in the show, like

(51:51):
you know, and this is later in my career, and
you know, not that it really matters, but like my
social appearance dropped, my like someone pictures went down, and
like how many people started watching my story went down.
I watched all these things. So there was a time
period when I was like, man, things are changing, and
I had a certain lifestyle that was like that I

(52:12):
had to uphold, you know, and so I had to
figure out ways of reinventing my will, you know, and
just showing people because I care so much, Like I
love money, but I also care about the craft, and
I care about music, and I care about artists, and
I care about musicians who do great things. And I

(52:34):
like to be in that conversation because I respect music
and I hear it and I breathe it, and I
want to make sure I'm a part of that. So
I was like, how do I do that? You get
your ass in the studio, you know, you want to
be a part of the greatest athletes or actors. You
get your ass and your craft and you show them right.
And I still got tons of work to do, and

(52:55):
that's what keeps me going. I enjoy I don't ever
want to be like you.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Don't never want to become complacent, Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
But I don't think I can. It's impossible for me
because I enjoyed doing so many things right, Like even
if I was to was not saying that happened. Guys,
don't fry me. But if I become the best rapper
of all time, I would then want to be like
the best, like rock artists or like pop art I
would just I want to do something else, right, so
I never become.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
So you don't want to scale them out and just
get up there and bask. You want to find another
amount to client.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
It's just fun to do, you know. All of it
is fun to do because it's limitless. You know, there's
no I don't have a coach, I don't have a director,
I don't have there's no direction. And it's also the
hardest part about it because there's no one telling you
which way to go. You know, music is like when
you get to a certain level of music, you got
to think about it. Man, these labels, they genuinely they like,

(53:45):
they thrive off money. So if you sign to a label,
regardless how much they tell you a man like, you're
creative and do your thing and they make money, they
thrive off for you making money. So they want you
to make hit records, right, and a hit record think
about think about the concept of a hit record. You're
making a song for people right that you do not know.

(54:08):
I don't know any of you guys, right, Like, I
respect you, you love me, You're a fan, thank you
so much. I don't know you. So I'm supposed to
be like, like, it's two sides of music. It's the
people who made music for themselves, right, and what they
love and what they like. And then you have artists
who like deliberately or trying to make a hit record
right like they want.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
To knock it out artists. Is that when you're going
out there.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You know, when you're out there trying
to do what you think is popular. A lot of
artists do that, you know, and then some do what
they like, and then that kind of shows, you know,
taste level. If you do what you like and it goes,
you got good taste. If you do what you like,
it's like this sucks two things, either your taste is
terrible or they just not there yet. Kanye West always

(54:50):
did he wanted to do, and sometimes people don't understand
it at first and they had to come around to
it later. Tyler just dropped the album doing what he
wanted to do and people loved it. You know. So
I think it's all about I don't know, man, Everyone's
path is different in life. You know. That's the one
thing I always say, like you can give advice to

(55:11):
a certain extent, but like, my success won't be yours.
You know, how I came up and the things that
I did it may not necessarily be your path are
your key, you know, not to say that there isn't
a path for you, It's just that it's not always
the same, you know. So I try to give it
people advice with like stipulations almost like like this will

(55:33):
happened for me. But like you know, but if I
do see something that I can clearly see.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Is off, I always try to, you know, partake some wisdoms.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, of course, because they' nobody do it for me
until like I got older. But in the beginning of
my career and have it.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
You're dad with a famous photographer we worked without cast
Kanye West, Lula and more. Did your dad You ever
go to work with your dad?

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Sometimes not always, but.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
I would.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I would come to his house after work and he'd
have all the like it'd be like it'd be like
I didn't. It'd be like I didn't see him kill somebody.
But I would come over and it'd be like bullet shells.
What I mean by that is that he'd have all
these people just like so like I didn't. I never
seen him do it, but I would see it and

(56:22):
be like and he'd be like yeah, this was last
Friday and this was Saturday. And he flew around a lot.
He was always gone to be like, yeah, he always
went to places. My dad was always he's a big
traveler and he's never home.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Hate traveling. How you're gonna be how you're gonna be
an artist and you hate traveling.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
But I hate traveling for leisure, okay, you know, because
I'm always on the road and I don't like hotel rooms.
They have no life, they have no they have no Yeah,
it's just a stock photo on the wall, a really
tightly tucked bed, uh and bad furniture and the TV

(57:03):
with no channels, you know, and sometimes it shot with
bad water pressure.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, what what did you what
did you learn most from your dad?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Just to be myself, you know, Like I said, my
dad used to drive a Mercedes station Wagon, a vintage
whim And at the time I didn't understand old cars.
When I was young. It was like Dad, this call
cars oldest, you know, Like my mom had a new
Beamer but not new, but like newer. My dad drove
vintage cars, you know, And and he wore what he
wanted to wear at the time when I was young,

(57:39):
Nike was the my dad were new balances and it's like, Dad,
what are these?

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Why are you wearing these? Right?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
You know?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
And when I was young, it just took a lot
for me to understand my father did what he wanted
to do, you know, when I grew up my dad.
I would see my dad when I was young every
other weekend for the most part, unless he had to work.
And he was never like a He was never like
a like my dad never was like see them they gay,

(58:12):
We don't do that, you know, Like he wasn't wanted.
Like I used to hang around friends who parents they
were like that. My dad was like he was a real,
like accepting person of everything.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
He was real, like life is just life, you know,
almost like a hippie. But he wasn't a hippie. But
he was kind of like he kind of black man
in the South. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. He was.
My dad was different. Is I'm talking like Dad's home,
Like he's different. He's a different guy. And growing up,

(58:44):
I think, and he listened to all types of music,
and I think he just taught me to like do
you you know and like if that's what you like
by the way I'm talking about things that sexuality, right,
if that's what you like, like if you like to
wear slecks with tube socks, or skinny jeans or loose jeans,

(59:06):
or even a curl mustache or crazy hair, whatever, do it?
You know. And it's crazy because he didn't tell me
these things. I just saw it in him. I saw
him dress how he wanted to dress.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
But he never said when you showed up with looks
at a certain way, like boy, what you got don
on for? Never why you look it like that?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
He honestly used to always be like, ah, you look cool,
or like he always was like, you know, you look
fresh or whatever, and he always played. I think I
also went through him playing so much music. I like
i'd be studying things, like when I was in school,
I wanted to be psychologists, right, so like I study things,
so like even if you would play some music, I'd
go and then I go look at their videos or

(59:43):
see them perform live, or look at their pictures, and
then you know, if you listen to rock music, they
dressed differently, and you know they their shows are different,
and their interviews are a little bit different, their charisma
is different, and so I would just deep dive into
all these different things, and so without him even like
probably knowing that, it was just unlocking a much more

(01:00:06):
a free Yeah, you know what I'm saying, A free
way of a man who just I wasn't ever really judgmental.
I never really cared and I just mind my business.
I don't really care nobody else got going on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Since your dad worked in the industry, he knew coach
k you had that rapped only for a year, people
like man yachty a plant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
It wasn't even Yeah, I didn't explain it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Tell me what the plant is because I hear this
term a lot of times. What is a plant?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Because I'm thinking, you know, I grew up on a farm,
and I know that what the definition of a plant were.
We talked about we had to plant tobacco, we had
to plant seed and across to grow. But what was
an industry plant?

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
You playing tobacco? Yeah, damn.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I grew u about three out south from here, r
rural South Georgia where Glennville never heard of. Okay, you
know Savannah. Yeah, I'm about sixty miles from Savannah for
south or close like inland.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Savannah's right on the coast. I'm a little inland, okaytol
cool cool. Yeah, an industry plan is basically so crazy
because you don't really like you have them, but like
they don't really succeed like back in the day, like
but it's basically just like an artist that was made
in house and it's put in position with other artists

(01:01:28):
to kind of blend in block they're blessed, well not
even block, but just kind of to blend in and
kind of like skip the line. Okay, you know, like
you kind of like if like if depth Jam found
an artist and they felt potential and it just kind
of stuck them next to future, you know, and like
kind of tried to like how you get the future,

(01:01:50):
like you know, or anybody don't got to be future anybody.
I'm not saying like future, but just like anyone that's
kind of like what an industry plan, it's just someone
that is more moving at the speed of light and
it doesn't make sense how they're growing so fast, you know.
But now it's just the it's just the way social
media works. People can really overnight and explode, you know,

(01:02:13):
and had nothing to do with sometimes they honestly, this
industry they don't even know how to market a lot
of artists. It's just so either you know how to
work social media or it just works for you. These
labels really don't be doing what they're doing. To be honest,
that's truth, that's the real truth.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
So but when you obvitunally, you've heard that because they
you skipped the line up. Man, how y'alli was right
here one day and next thing I know, he and Kanye,
He and Kanye fashion show, he doing music with Kanye
Block x Y and Z. So how did that make
you feel?

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
You just keep your head down and say, y'all keep talking.
I'm gonna keep making this bread and I don't worry
about what y'all say.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
You know, I didn't care because I was I was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I was so sad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
You know, Like the thing with me was negativity never
bothered me because I realize that, like, this world really
is so big. And I started to get the perception
that the reason you see so much hatred is because
the people hating that's what they spend their time doing.
You know, you got so many people that love you

(01:03:16):
right and that cherish you and respect you. They're just
living life. You know, you're not gonna spend your time
like telling someone how much you just oh, I just
love you. Some people will, but you you going about torday.
You know, if you listen to y'all and you love them,
you in school, you at work, you're just doing it.
You love them in life. You know, you go to
a show you support by merch, but you're not gonna

(01:03:37):
spend all day talking about how much you love them.
You just do it right. So like when I was
like doing things and you know people are coming to
me in the street, or I would do a show,
or like I was just growing, It's like, okay, well
someone loves me. Correct It's not like my bills are paid,
you feel me? So like people just have more time
to hate. It's a certain type of person.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I never met anybody in the street that says I
hate Shannon shark Man. No, I dislike and why you
come up with that name? May you know how? And
you make black people look bad by smoking black and
mouths and drinking brown lick on TV. I've never heard anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
No one's ever told me to my face till you suck.
Nobody cares.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
It's only online. But you know what I had, I
had to learn because you know, my sister says, Seanna,
there's no possible way you could be ascending like you
are and have more haters than supporters. But it took
me a while because the thing is, what when you
play on sport YACHTI if you like you're in an
arena and they could be like, eighty thousand fans cheering, Yeah,
we love you, eighty four we love you, Shark. It's

(01:04:37):
that one thousand that's booing that somehow is able to
drown out the eighty thousand that's cheering. And I had
to learn to tune my ear, to tune my to
not hear the booze but only hear the applause. And
it took me a while to get over that because
when I was playing, I understood Steeler fans disliking me
because I played for the Broncos in the Ravens. I
understood that then, But now I'm like, what is it

(01:05:01):
that I What is it that I'm doing in my
life that causes you to dislike me so much?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I think that people just have insecurities in themselves, and
so they they mask it by taking it out on
someone else. You know, your comfort maybe as a man.
You know your masculinity and the things that you enjoy
and the things that that you're comfortable doing. You know,
it can make someone so uncomfortable because they aren't comfortable,

(01:05:30):
you know, And I feel no way for them. I
have no pity because I love myself right, you feel me?
And now I'm at the point now I look good,
I smell good, I feel good. And I guarantee you
any sisters or exes or current girlfriends that you may

(01:05:51):
be involved with have in your life feel the same way.
So all the SILD talk is irrelevant at this point.
I'm speaking directly in the camera because I know you're
watching it hating at the very moment. I want you
to understand that anytime you spend time being negative on me,
I'm someone like smiling.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Y'all heard it. He looked that breaks in the camera.
He's talking to a specific group of people. Don't hate mask.
When you signed that big deal with quality Control, Yeah,
what was the first thing that you did? You got
your first meal?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
I do that check in a week?

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
How about was it like one three? I think in
a week?

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
What the hell you buy?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
New York City?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Man? The second I got that I never get I
was in my mom's house and we lived in that
same house my entire life, and I had two of
the homies they was living in. I had this real
smile room and I I remember I signed a deal,
but it took like two almost three weeks for to
check the cliar. So every day I woke up, I
checked my bank account, woke up not there, woke up
not there, woke up not there. One day I woke up.

(01:07:00):
Motherfucker was in there. Man. I was screaming. I was
talking about what. I went straight to Mercedes. Fu you
talking about gea wagon? I need that, right. I was like, damn,
I can't beat g waggon my money. Okay, range over.
You know what I'm saying, Pehouse, Grandma need the car.
You know what I'm saying, Gucci. I need everything in

(01:07:22):
this bitch, every color. I was going crazy. I was,
I was eighteen. I was that money up so quick.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Hold on, so you look you look at like, hold on,
I just had one point three. I just got the three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
No, I didn't think about it. It was just gone
and I never looked bro It took years for me
to look at my bank account. I was making so
much and Also I was so hot, Like I was
making so much money, Like I spent the million and
that man in a week, but like I probably made
it back in the next two weeks. Like I was
making so much money, and I never I didn't even
have a password to my bank account. If I started

(01:07:57):
at eighteen, I probably had a password to my bank account.
So I was like twenty four yo. Yeah, my mom
just marketed. My mom was my business manager, and she
checked it. But I never checked my bank account. My
cars never declined. I was I did. I wanted and
give fuck. I woke up for like Bying and Bentley.
I went and bought that Bentley. I was It was crazy, bro,
it didn't really make any sense the way I was living,

(01:08:19):
it was it was insane. So yeah, I spent that
money in the week.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
So what what would you say? What was some What
was the worst purchase you made? What was the best
thing that you did? What you got some money?

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I think it's all stupid. You know, you only you
only go to one place at one time. We don't
need so many cars for you know, right now, I
got like thirteen cars for what. Yeah, it's no I
think it's stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Downside two or three downside of yatta, like you just
said you can only drive one. I like cars.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
I know, I think it's I think it's all a
stupid obsession. You know, even watch this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Why do we have so many that now you're talking
about I see that thing over there? You this little
you know, a little man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
But why why do we need so many protects?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
That's over Yeah, you know over work there, you got that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
But why do we need so many? I don't even
look at this for time, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
You let people know your time valuable.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true because I do. It's
so crazy. When I am shopping, I feel like, you know,
they kind of overlook at me as I'm standing there.
I do sometimes like y'all got any signs and yeah,
and they're like, oh yes that and they start bringing stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Yeah yeah they know. That's a great watch of the conversation. Peep.
They might not know who you are, but they look
at your wrists and they see a roller, and they
see an ap they see a protect They're like, okay,
a macharn.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Yeah yeah, constant, Yeah, they know you mean something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Yes, they might not know who you are, but we
we need to give this young man under by the
detention and then they see them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
That's true, it is, that's true. That's true. That's true.
That's true. That's true. That I mean, I mean, but
I think you could do that with one watch. You
got one good Win, Yeah, I go. I got too
many watches. This I don't even want to talk about it.
But like it's like I got so many things though
I can say, like I just like if I what
I do tell people is like man bro Savior money

(01:10:15):
because I don't care about any of this stuff. I
got thousands of tennis shoes that I don't never win
there Eventually they'll go bad, you know, like they will I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
End up selling just so like in November, like three
hundred and thirteen pair.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
You feel me like and it's just that you just
you just do right having all them cards. They go
bad because the weather conditions, just sitting outside fucking I want.
I go through these different phases. Like one time I
went through phase I bought every video game system console
ever made. Why And it wasn't like I was buying
them like just buying them used like I need them

(01:10:49):
in pristine, brand new conditions. I was spending the top
dollar and it's just sitting in a corner. You know.
I had a weird obsession with toys at one point,
like collectibles, and it's just sitting in a box, and
it's like boxes, and it's like I spent like thousands
and thousands. I go so crazy and obsessed and then
like I never do nothing with this stuff. So I
always tell you, like, right, even jewelry. In the beginning

(01:11:10):
of my career, I was spending millions on custom jewelry
that like it's just worth nothing, you know, or in
my case, well in my case, my house got broken too.
It was all taken, right, so it's like it's just
no point. Like, of course, spoil yourself and do good
things for yourself and reward yourself, but don't overboard it,

(01:11:31):
you know, like do something nice and enjoy it and
be be like do something's gonna make you more money,
you know, because I spent a lot of money on
things that it brought me happiness absolutely right. So like,
but it's important to have people around, I say, like,
when you get into an industry and you start doing
making a name for yourself, surround yourself with people who

(01:11:51):
have been there, you know. So that you can be
pointed in certain directions by people who have been been
down that path before. Because when I came in, I
didn't have anyone. Right when QC first signed me, they
were coming from an independent label to just now sign
into it becoming a major label, Capital Records, and so

(01:12:12):
and before me, they had a lot of street artists, right,
and so it was kind of like we were same time,
coming into like a different level of money right together.
So like we just we didn't I didn't have no
one over my shoulder, like do this with your money,
do that with your money. Don't buy that. That's the
excuse me. Don't do that, don't do it. I didn't
have it, you know, But I grew up and called

(01:12:35):
a better understanding. But man, it's so many ways to
to take that money and make it backflip for real.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
You brought two neighbors lake houses because they were too
close to your one?

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
What I bought one and then I bought Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Bro let me get that off.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
It was. It was a nice guy. He threw a
lot of parties, and he would have these pool parties
and they were loud, and I could always I look
out my window and they were always looking over at
my house like like like looking over in there, and
I was like, I hated.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
That because he had tone told him you know who
lived next door?

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Well, everyone in the neighborhood know I lived there with
weird like because people will come through the boats blasting
my music on the speakers to see if I could
come outside, and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
You did you go outside?

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Hell no? Like even in the beginning, they used to
bring me cookies to like my house before I got security.
They cool though, It's just white people being white.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
People being neighborly. Huh, unless you like that couple in
Ohio and that's why were you while that's not your house.
But we're talking about that another day. Let me ask
you that hold on. You spend ninety one hundred thousand overniers, yeah,
and a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
On dialon implants sixteen carrots. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
I mean unless you smile really really big, you can't
see them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
You know what I'm saying. It's just.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
The mind says everything. When you go up and talk
to somebody, you're always smiling and you laughing and you
and people's face. But you can't beat the cavity creek.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Now, man, No, hell no. But you know what I'm saying. Like,
women love it, they do.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
They women like a good Oh you have a pretty smile.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
They love. Women love a good smile, clean noils, smooth skin,
and a good scent. That's the key. And I want
to say they like a good physic too. But I'm
starting to meet women who don't care anymore, Like I
meet women who like chubby boys or like, uh because
you like what you like.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
But I think that, well, you can be chubby and young,
you can't bet chubby and old.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
That's true. What I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Gotta stay in the weight room about to be so,
you know, And I think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
It's just accustomed to you probably at this point, right,
Like is that not just a part of your it
is is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
But I know, like I'm getting I'm aging out of
a demographic. I'm aging into a demographic that I I
can't you know what I'm saying. When I was in
my twenties and thirties around Yeah, now slim picking for
your boy, that's true, that's true, especially when no you good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
That's the thing with people like you, man, y'all get
to some age and you still like them young, you
like yeah, yeah, yeah, you like the same age girls,
I like, yeah, when you get to a certain age.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I'm getting old, but my eyesight still young.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Right, Okay, And with that, you got it. You gotta
uphold a certain way because yeah, old and sloppy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
You can get you get one of the other young
and sloppy or older in shape exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Oh you're gonna get older in shape women.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
I guess no, no, no, no, gets exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
So we could do more face, more Instagram Live experiences.
There you fit that you go, yah exactly? That was Hey,
that was just an audio if ms Patt said that
was for that was for the big for those who
do brell. Yeah, those I get it, okay, those who.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
I read with your monthly expenses with like fifty two
k mon, you down there, I'm double you double Now
you're supposed to be going the other way?

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yatty Now I'm at one hundred. No for sure? Yeah
is that more than you? Hell?

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Yeah, damn what you mean? Way way more than me?

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Really? Yes? Absolutely always you never was there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
No, I ain't got no brand like that. I ain't
had that money poured in like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
That, just saying cain yati. I'm gonna tell you one
thing I do. I'm a professional pocket watcher. Okay, all
I do is watching the park. It's all I do.
And last night I was on club YouTube channel and
these views are substantial, and I know how YouTube payment goes,
and I know her revenue goes. You do all right?

(01:17:00):
I do? Okay? Are you to do? Damn okay in
capital letters? So when you're seeing act like you and
you're gonna do it all right? Now, you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
I do pretty good? Pretty good? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I see. You know c J who we've been together,
c J and IW. He worked with me at Fox
uh and when I left, I brought it with me.
He and I EP the show.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
This podcast is, man, you are doing amazing things. I've
never seen it. Well maybe maybe maybe fucking buddy, But like,
ain't too many podcasts you can go down. They hold
and it's just like good views. I mean, your views.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Look good. But we put we do the best high
tech cameras. Yeah, J and I. We come up with
guests that we think are going to be very very interesting,
have a great story to tell. The way we produce it,
the graphics, the editing, the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
I mean, but you also it's also you you know,
you can't you cutting self, yourself short. You You are
more than half of this this show. You know, people
coming here because people respect you and people I think
value you and value that their time is in good,
good hands with you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
So you play a big part. I definitely allowed them
to tell their story. And that's why the videos are
so long. It's because I'm not trying to Oh, I
only got an hour. I want you to tell your
story and its entirety, and don't feel like you're mad.
I left something else I which I could have shared
this with this individual. I like for people to tell
their story. It's respectable. Thank you. Investments. So now you've

(01:18:29):
spind you got to invest something? Yeah, yeah, hell yeah,
clearly you invest in diamonds.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I invest in a lot of things. I don't want
to talk about none of my investments. But crypto man
I did crypto. I was a scammer. I went to
jail for scamming.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Was scamming Pope man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
I was poor, right, and so like I was, I
was buying bigcoin in twenty fourteen. You know, we was
buying big coins and none of the other stuff is
solely bitcoin because that was how we went on the
black web. And that's how I bought you on mation.
That's how I had your grandma's social you know they
only paid it, you can only paying bitcoin, and it

(01:19:06):
was stumpy man. You get a big cooin back then
for like five grand?

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Yes, twenty five hundred. Because I had a guy and
I was just I was showing someone that he a
buddy of mine, and he's like, hey, I'm just doing
this because you know, I like you, You're a good
friend of mine, and so just an opportunity to buy bitcoin.
He said, I can sell you ten now, and I
can sell you ten every six months, but it'll cost
you twenty five It'll cost you twenty five hundred dollars
a coin where years this this is twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
I didn't know anything about it, YACHTI wow, So you
know if I don't know anything about it, I said, nah,
I can't do that. Bro, I said, I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I know how you feel down about that?

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Sick. I'm sick because he's gonna sell me ten called
it twenty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Was he a good friend? Did you trust? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
I had met him about five or six times at
and saw him at different places, and so I was like, man,
why not just buy? Why not just buy ten? I
mean I would have out of that, I would have
been I wouldn't have been there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
We do that though, I've done that so many times
that when you beat yourself up about it. But I
think that's the thing. I like, sometimes you gotta take
those chances, you do, you know, But who would have knew?
I wouldn't. I'm telling you I was buying bigcoin, and
I'm talking about I was buying it with no money. Like,
had I knew that just keep an account and hold
some of that stuff instead of buying credit information, I

(01:20:26):
would have been. I would have been a millionaire, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
But I way more. But I would have never coup
what is coin down one hundred thousand?

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
I was thinking it went down a little bit, but
yeah it's eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Thousand, and you know you could buy I could bout
ten initially and then ten every six months. Let's just
say I buy fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Yeah, you would have been you would have been probably
been doing something different right now? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Yeah, no, no, I still I've still have been doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
But it's beautiful. Then.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Look, they would have never known I had big coin. Yeah,
but they'd have been science. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right,
you know, I come to work on an elephant, right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Shut.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
I'm not saying I'm just saying absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
I get it for sure. Yeah, I get it. They
were know I'm living yachty. I write everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Let me ask you, Let me ask your question, because
I think we both get this is what happens a
lot with us. Is that friends asking to invest in
something of theirs, trying to help friends out. You shake
your head, yeah, you shake your head.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Goodness, Oh my goodness. This is a part of being
black and successful. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
How do you say?

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
No me?

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
It's easy?

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Really, yeah, not like that. You. I think that's an
older mentality, like y'all just y'all comfortable with no?

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Yeah, you gotta be if you don't put the living.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Way about when you was in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Was it easy to then, Yeah, yeah, because I've never
really had a whole bunch of friends. I've had my
friends and were cool. We were cool when I was
in the league and when I was in college, and
we're cool now. And so for me, because you have
to put limits, You have to put limits on what
you give, because takers will never put limits on what
they take. So if you just give, give, give, they'll take, take, take,

(01:22:09):
And then the moment you tell them no, you ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Ish, then you're fake. Yeah yeah you got all that money.
Did all your friends do something? No?

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
No, my friend one of my college friends, Uh, he's
still he's still one of my best friends. I really say.
I got two best friends, Keith Burns and Daryl McCormick.
And we're like brothers. I ain't gonna say we like brothers.
We are brothers. The only thing the difference is we
don't have the same blood, we don't have the same parents,
anything like that. But because I look at this, I'll
measure my friend, y'ady. If the roles were reversed, I

(01:22:41):
was in their shoes, they were in my shoes. They
would help me just like I helped them. Absolutely, That's
that's the only that's the only way I can measure
a friend. If the roles were reversed, how would he
treat me?

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
And if they and if shit gets STICKYO gonna be there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
They're gonna ride. You know I'm saying. But what I like,
I think, what I like most of bottom Yachty is
that they tell me what I need to know, not
what I want to hear because even though we've been
friends for thirty plus years, my homeboy say, homeboy, you
know you my homeboy and I love you, but you
were wrong in this situation. You shouldn't said that. You
shouldn't have done that. That's important because a lot of
times people will tell you what you want to hear

(01:23:18):
because they don't want that bus to stop and you
open the door and ask them to get off, so
they go, yeah, man, you right, Man, you got a
way to tell them.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yeah, yeah. And it's so crazy. That's the thing about
when you get into this industry, man, you it's so
hard to tell it is. You know, so many people
want to just ride pause Jesus so so like but
you but they just they just disguise themselves, you know,

(01:23:48):
and sometimes it take a real nasty incident for you
to find out. You know, I'm so like, I'm so
used to just like people turning their backs. They're like,
I'm so numb. I'm so used to like doing for
people and like being there for people and like them
just like slim and snaking.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
They're like, you can do something for people one hundred times,
but it's that one o one that you don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
All of a sudden, you now you're a bad guy.
I did one hundred things for one hundred people.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Yeah, but that's the devil, you know. You know those
saying the devil will never show up as the devil
because if he did, he wouldn't let you. You wouldn't
let him in your circle. Yati, Damn. He said, I
got to show up as a friend because I gotta
get close to you. If I showed up as the devil,
you actually gonna do the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Some people will.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
It'll depends on what it's at the end of it.
Hunh what that deal didn't tell?

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Yeah, well, I think a lot of people do a
lot of things for small rewards.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
is also posted and you can access it to whichever
podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just
simply go back to club shap profile and I'll see
you there.

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