Club Shay Shay - Tony Yayo Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for your coming back. Part two is underway.
Your daughter was born while you were incarcerated. How did
that impact you not being there?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
That was a tough thing because I signed my birth
statificate certificate, her birth certificate on rikers Allen and the
CEO is the witness. I didn't want my baby moms
to bring the baby there, but she did and I
signed the dead Yeah, that was tough. That's when I
know I had to go home.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
You like, you know I ain't coming back.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah. It's all about the kids, man. That's that's that's
that's the most thing.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's not about the money, the cause and the jury.
It's about taking kid family and making sure your kids
is correct.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
All that stuff come and go. Cause jury had all
kind of cars, all kind of jury, right, you know,
and them experiences, like I said, being in rooms with.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Dreamed of you a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know, I'm in the room with you. People don't
even know. You know what. The craziest story it's me
getting out of jail. My craziest experience was meeting Donald Trump.
Really you can google it. Me and DJ whole Kid
told me to come to radio. I just got a
jail out for a couple of days, and we interview
Donald Trump. And I never forgot because it was drug

(01:07):
dealer Wednesdays and we interview Donald Trump way before he
was president, right, and that's crazy. I even got a
shirt time, Bob. That's crazy. And now he's the president.
But I always felt like he had game. Yes, I
always felt like he had game.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
You mentioned him his relationship with fifty. Your relationship to fifty.
People called you a house end because they say, man,
all you do is glades fifty. I mean, excuse me,
glades am k for him? A so forth A song
like bro the man, the man got, the man got scills,

(01:48):
give credit word due regardless of the color.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I think. I think with social media now, it gives
everybody to get you, Shay, Shay. I think I heard
Jamie Fox talk come out it. You can't even put
a picture up. Put a picture up. Look at your
parts too tight? You put your kids up. Your kids
is ugly. Put your car up. Hate your car? Like

(02:12):
the internet is undefeated. And what I learned is I
used to let the ship, Bob, but I was like, yo,
you know what, the internet is just undefeated when Tom's now.
But you could hands on tell the artists them. And
I feel like that's the satisfaction that back in the
days when it was no Internet, No, you couldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
You know, the Internet is done.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It has made people accessible because, like you said, you
can get up under their comment, you can jump in
their d MS and say.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Every everybody get it.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I think the only person that don't get it is
maybe Beyonce because she's she got to be high. You
know certain NICKI minall certain people. But everybody gets.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
You because not everybody's a professional, ex professional athlete, their coach,
they're a music producer, a former their former writer, their
former rapper, their former desk. So everybody's like feel like
their their opinion and they feel their opinions matter.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then you gotta figure out when the person look
says you like you're in a position and you were
only human, right, Yes, we all come he's stupid, he's dumb. Yeah,
like for instance to P Diddy situation. Yeah, niggas riches.
If I had this money, I'd be on the hour.
I wouldn't even be in this country, nigga, I'll be
in I have a spot in Paris, spot in Italy.
I wouldn't even be talking to motherfucker's niggas wanldn't be

(03:30):
partying at my crib because I'm aware of the lawsuits.
You know what I'm saying that niggas stupid. That's the
first thing that I'm gonna say that God less money
than you. There's more people that don't have it than
do have it. Be humble and even if you humble,
you still get it. Niggas gonna yo, you're glazed a
fifth that you're glazed in them andem. It don't bother
me because I know, I know nigga's gonna hate for

(03:51):
some reason. But I appreciate the people that show love
right because you know, out a lot of them comments,
a lot of people show love and shout to them.
Can't focus on the haters.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
But the way we're wired, you can get fifteen thousand
great comments to say I love yo yo with g
Unit with him in fifty and buck and you bland
and game. It's that one multiple comment.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But you know, you know it's the best satisfying part
of that that block button boom boom blocked and you
can e race yeah, and that's it and you embrace it.
It's gonna always be that my mony that don't like school.
Everybody gotta like.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, exactly, we weren't met with I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
He claims in fifty I've been hearing that shit for
twenty years. Fifty kid, you're watching this call mean the
white boy why he like him? I had a hit
me and say, Yo, how you shout out eminem You
ain't shout out me from the birthday in the hood,
And I'm like, what have you ever done for me
in your natural life? Because you know where you get
loved at. You always get love in your hood last

(04:53):
because they know you. Yes, when you Meanwhile, I can
go to Europe and the niggas ya yo yo yo,
I can go to yay yo, I can go to
Italy yayo. People showed me love. You always get loved
in your hood. Last. See, music don't have nothing to
do with color race. The best thing about music is
just breaks all barriers.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes, you know it's funny that you said that, because
someone told me. He said, when you become something is
those that know you and closest to you have the
most resentment.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Exactly because they know you exactly. I'd have meant that
the name overseas y'all, how's your kids doing? Name all
my kids know my album, know everything, support everything I do,
passball game shirt, free yo shirt. But from the hood
won't buy my shit that I know my whole life
but from a whole other side of the country is
support me and love me when I'm not here no more.

(05:50):
Those be the niggas at your funeral.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's the crazy part about music. It breaks all barriers.
It has nothing to do about color, because it could
be a white boy that know more about hip hop
in the hood. Yes, let's keep it real because when
you when you look at hip hop, bro, it's not
going nowhere. Kre Ress still torring, red Man, still toring,

(06:14):
j Rue the Damage, Ye still toring. Half of the time.
When I'm in my car, I'm listening to the old
school nas D, MX, Cougi rap, kre Ress, I might
go to Nina Simone. I'm like, you know what I'm saying.
I might go to Bobby Conwell. Like I'm listening to
all types of music. Music breaks every kind of barrier.

(06:37):
I could be racist and still listen to your music.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, we go. You know what, We're gonna be all
right though we're gonna get past it. We're gonna get
past us.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
When Drake sampled your song, definitely, I had to make
your feels.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Shout out to Drake Man definitely, man cut the check.
Drake got the check, he got it good. I got
the call from Paul Rosenberg and a couple of people
like he wanted to use a sample from one of
the mixtapes, and I was on it. You know, even
when you look at the Drake and Kendrick thing, that
was the best thing that happened to hip hop. It
was like a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Nice battle long you keep it on wax though, Yoe.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Nice battle.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I love a battle keep it on wax.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
No, definitely, but sometimes it gets past that. That God,
it's always the remember yeah yeah, artists, Yeah, it's always.
But when you look at Battle, k rres one mc
shar krest one was this and queens. But we still
listen to it. Yeah, from back in the days.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That might have been the first with BDP. That might
have been. That might have been the first. That might
have been the first, and then you had keep on
thinking it.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
You know, we was tight, but it was like, yo,
this ship is hard. That's what I'm saying. That was
hip hop. See I like the eighties hip hop. I
had always bring itself to people think about self destruction. Yeah,
a lot of people. That was a big record. You
had kr res One, Cool Mo D, Big Daddy Kane,
Heavy D, Salt and Pepper, all these even what was

(08:03):
Chares wife? He named miss was it? God name care
risk girls? What's the Miss Melody Relody?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Miss Melody was on there like self destruction. We had
into a selfish all the songs that you used to hear,
even when you listen to brand New Bian. Yes, when
they talk about cracking songs like Yo don't do crack
self destruction, we had into a self destruction. It was
the crack eror like that music was dope, public Enemy,

(08:35):
fight the Power, Yes, that ship like come on bro.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, doing research, I went back. I did not know
until like probably a couple of months ago, that came
within the Juice Crew all Stars.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I didn't know that was it. Yes, I didn't know.
I didn't know that. Yes, I didn't know that. And
Big Daddy Kane.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Like akt Aka with the high top, I'll be happy.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I mean, who you give it to? Kane or Rock
Kim because it's like with.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Them, look, oh geeze I was.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Talking to somebody, I'm gonna put it out and they
were trying to say King had more swag than rock Him.
But I didn't really agree with that. I don't want
to say what DJ was, but but I felt like
they was what you feel like there was next to
that Kane, rock Him.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
But man, when when King, when Rocky came out thinking
of a master play.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Here Kim, rock Him and King.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
But see that that was the era of the lyricist.
When you look at Kane, you look at rock Him, y'all,
slick Rick, k R S one, you look at those
guys LLL you look at that. I mean those guys
you could hear everything and it wasn't no mumbling. You
could hear every word. And after like three or four repeats,
you got it.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And then the list goes on. Because I did love
Heavy D. Heavy D was Oh yes, before Biggie. He
was the first fat fly nigga. Yes, absolutely had hits.
That's why I said, it's not down to a top
five Dougie Fresh.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, and then you got and then you came along
in the nineties and you had Scarface.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah that's true too, face A. Now you're talking about
ghetto boys. I mean, the Ghetto Boys is my ship.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
But that but see, look.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
We have we've evolved, but I don't know it'll never
be like it was in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Hip hop, not rap, not like that, No, sir.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I feel like everybody kind of hates New York because
we feel like we then interval.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
At l we don't pass y'all. We don't pass y'all.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
You think so you gotta debate. Now we got a
debate now because I'm gonna tell you now a lot
of ship would remember what I said. We either get
killed on dighted, we flow right, we lost pop.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Smoke Yeah yeah that a and then six.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Nine he had a buzz too. He told on Nigga,
I ain't trying. It's not no clickbaby, but he had
a buzz before he told him. We got a boogie.
He's worldwide. Now you know we got we had a
couple of dudes like but we either get indicted or
something happens before it happens. Because you think New York
had it for a long time, think about in the

(11:14):
nineties we had Big Pun Fat Joe d MX d block,
Am I missing? O Nahs, Foxy Brown, little Kim mm hmmm,
who am I missing? Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
You look y'all y'all, y'all, y'all had corner the market
on basically everything. You go back and look at the
women rappers rock saying uh uh uh y'all like bro y'all, Hey,
you know who don't getting enough credit?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Queen Latifah, come on.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Don't play with the don't play with the queen.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't give Queen Latifa is it. Don't play with
the queen. Definitely in my top female artist, she was
the one that who you calling? Come on? Why yeah?
You with thneteen White, I was definitely catching that on him.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
As the queen. I look, uh, I'm I'm I was
a huge I'm a huge missy fan.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh missy yeller. You can't take nothing from this.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
But she, y'all, that's South, y'all got her. Yeah, but you.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Know Atlanta, you know we're the key Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Who y'all got? Let me think, don't do that?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Who we got? Don't do that?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I'm gonna go without casts first before anybody anyway, you.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Could do that, so you ain't so future don't get
no love.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
No future get loved. Okay, let's go, but I'm talking
about earlier Atlanta. We gotta go. Jermaine dupre Yeah, out cast,
Who am I missing?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well? They said it off when they when they when
the the A T L.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
A Little John come on yeah, because let's stay. Let's
keep it real. Little John had a lot of his
Oh yeah, Jamaine John, Who I'm missing Outcast? I love
Oka good Goodie mob goodie Mom. You can't leave them
out there.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know what they don't. They need to give. They
need to give now. They need to give Silo his credit.
No sel like that, but Silo was more like a singer.
You would think thing the right, but see no, because
I did you. I didn't know he could sing like
that because when he was Goodie Mob be he never
did anything outside of when he started doing We went
solo and he hit crazy and he did it a

(13:26):
papella and then people like, hold on, ain't no rapper
got no voice like that?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, definitely our cast, come on brood mom. Definitely.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So we gotta think about earlier Atlanta before we go
in the future. In no disrespected Atlanta. But you know
I'm always New York Man.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, yaws. I mean for the longest time.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
You know, that's just trying to tell me Cube is
better than NAS. And I love ice Cube, I love
n w A, but I'm always going to say Nas
is better than c And no disrespect to him. He's
a legend.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's It used to just be the coast, but it's not.
It's done.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You know, it's gonna moved down to the south because
it used to be the East coast, West coast, it
was New York l A.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I felt like it came to a point where because
I remember going down like early g unit, we was
going down south and I remember we went to like
a radio thing. I think we was in Texas. It
was me and Banks and they was like we tired
out of we was there. I'm like, why that happens
to radio sometimes?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Have you a radio?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
No reason? Nelson, I don't know what he did. He's
brought me the cality right. He had us down south,
me and Banks did I think we're in Texas and
they was like it started off we tired of playing
out of towns, them niggas looking around. I think it
came to a point where down south New York rap,

(14:44):
y'all had it for I'm just keeping it real. Came
to a point where Down South turning their back on
New York rap. For me, I'm keeping it real and
I love Down South rap. But I remember, you know,
Mob Deep shows, they do shows, they in Atlanta, niggas
is turning their back. They want to head they mob
and they.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Want to have then you got, you got Gucci, man,
you got Luda.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
They had the top there, Jez and Gucci Ta.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, Tim yeah see yeah. But eighties still is.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's still my my favorite time of rap because I'm
I'm old enough to I'm old enough.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I'm I'm a.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Teenager, so you know I'm a teenager and so I'm
I'm rock Cam and.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Nick Rick and all those guys. Yeah yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, THEMN that's when. To me, hip hop was crazy,
video music box. Everything was exclusive, like I remember that,
Like there was no internet. So when a DJ say, oh,
I'm about to when when when Tupaca and Biggie was
beefing and Flex was like, Yo, I'm about to play
new Biggie who shot you? Like we got to run

(15:50):
to the radio in the car. Oh ship Biggy about
to play the new Flex gonna play who shot You?
Because Flex was you know, to be on Flex was
like oh yeah. To be on Mount Rushmore at that time.
To do a f X restaff, oh shit. I'll never
forget that, like going to the radio, running to the
radio in the car just to hear Biggie knew who
shot it? Nobody had it, he had it, only certain
DJs would get it first. That's why I like with

(16:13):
music now, it's too much shit coming out. It's too
many artists. It's not no exclusivity like you said. Even
with the social media, it's no exclusivity Like I remember
when shit was just exclusive, like oh shit.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
And you had to have more than one song. Yes,
it wasn't no one song and you were hitting bro.
You had to put no, you had to put the
you had. Your album had to be lit, and most
of it were lit from front to back. You have
some you have three or four hits on the P side.
Now dude have one song he talk about we gonna
make a mistake. He got a TikTok dance.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm lit. But back then you really had to be lit.
Your whole album, your whole mixed shape. Jay z Hard
knocked life Na had it, you know, like come on, yes,
shit had to be lit for niggas, even fuck even
Little Kim and Foxy. Let's keep it real, like I
can't take nothing from them. Even though they was beefing.

(17:10):
That shit was like they was coming with records beats
like I remember when Biggie when he said that one line,
get off my dick kick it, you know when he said,
and Little Kim came in duo dude. Even the Beach
to me, was better when you listen to beats, like
when you listen to the Life After Death and shit
like that and get Richard I trying or illmatic. To me,

(17:31):
the Beach was like totally different. Not taking that from
what the producer's doing now and the sound now because
I listened to everything. Yeah, you know, I listened to
the future of Gunna, you know everybody. But to me,
the Beach back then was different. A Swiss beat, a
Timbaland beat, you know what I'm saying, A great beat,
who else, Scott Storage beat. It was just like, come on,

(17:54):
and that shit and that kind of music lasts forever,
like we we we thirty years in the game and
he's still touring. Like I just said, we just came
back off to it. Yeah, you know with fifth and
we still touring still. And I do my own tours
too for people. Oh yeah yeah, see I tos. I
did tours in Canada. I did a tour across the

(18:15):
whole Germany and the Swiss outs. And That's why I
don't care about the hate, because I'm like I could.
I got the possibility to do my own tour like
uh something with Memphis Bleek. Click said that. Nori Yo
said jay Z didn't have us on tour like he did,
or I eat my own Hallial. I eat my own
halial too. If you want to say that to meth Bleak,

(18:38):
I'm on my I just came off my last tour.
All I'm saying is when you see jay Z in exciting,
he never really when he's doing a Beyonce show or whatever,
you don't see Memphis Bleek on the stage and him
being brought out. You know, even if I'm doing the
hype man Ship with fifty, he's bringing me out. I'm
making money.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm going that's that man girl too. That's a whole
wife tour.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, that's whole yeah, whole wafe too.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
So if I believe if Hole was out on his own,
he would bring Bleak out. There is no need for
him to bring Bleak in a situation where I look
like if this was the last tour you're talking about
with the cowboy.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Carter right, Yeah, So to me because I look at
Bleak as a loyal guy. I'm a loyal god to check.
But I look at like fifty, my guy Hervey. One
day we had TRL and it's uh, it's the young gun.
It's there.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, And I'm talking when.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
He's out, and Hervey says loud, you don't gotta worry
about nothing. You got fifty. Jay Z doesn't do nothing
for these guys like fifty guys and Hervey. I think
he worked with them too. But he said that to me,
and I always stoock in my head rest in peace
to him, and he was like, Yo, you got fifty
because fifty always like for instance, when he dropped his album,

(19:55):
he didn't have to drop the bag for mercy. He
wanted to drop gu NI brand. He branded us on
the way with him. You know, until this day, people
knock me out the way fifty to fifty. Sometimes your
own security, your security might knock you out the way,
or people might knock you out there. I'm never gonna
feel a way about them celebrity as long as I'm
there and I'm getting what I deserve. You know, everybody

(20:19):
can't be Beyonce. Everybody can't be jay Z. Everybody can't
be Nas. Everybody can't be Snoop. Everybody can't be Drake.
Some mother might be or who at Tupac the Outlaws? Yeah,
that's how always looked at it, like fifty, you got fifty,
you got Genunit, you got Tupac, you got the Outlaws,
you got Snoop, you got dog pans.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Right, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's levels to the ship and it's cool. You know,
it's just want to always outdo you. Yeah, Lynch mab
it's cool. Everybody can't be ice Cube. You know.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well, you're about to get in trouble again because they
say fifty gave you a meal, gave you a ticket.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
When you got out.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, I lived in Battery Park. I used to come
out of my apartment. See the Statue of Liberty. You know,
Damn a lot of men. Look when you look at
a lot of rappers where they died in the hood.
Nipsey was doing a good thing for the community. Right,
he died in his hood. Stack Bundles good rapper, one
of the best rappers ever when he died. He died

(21:20):
in his hood. Freaky Tar grew up with him watching
dope rapper when he died in his hood? What what?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
What's what's up with that?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Because the hood, the streets never really got no love. Man,
you could feel like I think I always felt like
when I looked at Freaky Tar. I used to buy
nigga sneakers and yeah and look out for them.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
You should be you should be, I mean, you should.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Be applauded, and you're like, he made it man, we
ate one of our guys that grew up in this block,
that grew up over here, grew up like us. He
made it out. They should applaud that. They shouldn't be
envious of that.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Nah, Man, you're always gonna be a target in alarm light.
That's how always look at it. You're always gonna be
a target. That's how I look at it, especially in
your hood. Because we're all rappers die in they hood.
They don't die in the suburbs nowhere else. They dyeing
in their hood.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
But then, why do people get mad talking about where
you don't come back. He don't come back to the hood.
He don't do nothing in this hood.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean, you could do for the hood. You don't
have to be there. You know, you can feed everybody
with a long spoon. You don't got to be there
all the time. You might not have time to be there.
It's cool. Fifty got charities and do shit for people. Yeah,
not be there all the time. Niggas giving out turkeys
in the hood and giving clothes and coats and doing
shit and gun the foundation. You know, you ain't got
to You ain't got to do that. Like I work

(22:34):
with a foundation through the Knicks, right, and they give
back to families that you know, when when they lose somebody,
right or financial distress or uh. And it's called the
Guard and the Dreams too. Shout out to them, you know.
It's Joe is the owner of the Knicks, you know.

(22:57):
And they give back to families that lose parents. They
can't bury him. Somebody dies in the family sickness school mentorship.
I went there. I talked to some of the kids.
They boogie works when them, I work with them. I
talk with Centralcy, wrap up with him like that. That's
what it's about. It's giving back because at the end

(23:18):
of the day, you can have all the money the jury,
you can have as much money as more. Lloyd may meather,
you can show everything. Two thousand calls might not like
you for that. It's all about giving back, bro at
the end of the day, because that's what people gonna
remember you for. And being humble, that's one thing. Look,
look how far I've been going humble in the past
two years. I got myself hot, started praying, started you know,

(23:41):
leaving a lot of shit alone streets, and started really
focusing on myself. And I realized, like my podcast deal
working on that now that Joe volume up, Nori wanted
to give me a deal, like, and I'm on after this,
prices go up. I hope y'all know prices go up
after this, you know, so like and and just praying right,

(24:02):
and that my life been way better, bro, way better.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah. What have you learned about money?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Ah man? The money? Thing about money is save it,
because save it for a rainy day, because you know,
you know, as when you first get on and you
make all these purchases and you buy this one thing
about fifth he always was like tight with his money.
Eminem tight with his money. So you you you you
learn to con and save instead of spending. And like

(24:30):
my first purchase and my biggest purchase was a house, right,
you know, I bought a nice house along island and
then I bought another house. You know, so like fifty
encourage us. You know, you get money, go get a house.
That's like Uncle Murder. He's down with us now. He
was signed to jay Z. He got his first house
being down with us, right, that's my man. Wow, cause
Fifth gonna say you gonna make a whole bunch of

(24:51):
money with Fifth make you know you go on tour,
cause you gotta think you go on tour, you make
a quick half a million million, Yeah, you know, shout
to young Buck. Buck was my nigga, but he was
the most impulsive spender in June. You know, he'll make
a half a million. And at that time we're so young,
we not thinking about the quarter million. You gotta get
tax taxes. Yeah, right, so he'll make the half a million. Right,

(25:16):
I'm about his call. I'm about his call. I'm about chain.
You go to his house. You know I got a
nice bed, buck bed, he got the TV coming out
of the bed. Yeah, he got an all white room.
His daughter got a door explore room. The nigga got
the bent leader vel this, that, and you spending the
money as you get it. You can go on to it.
Say you make a half a million in two months,

(25:37):
you're not thinking about the leisure time that you got
to pay them taxes. You go and spend that money. Yeah,
now you like, now you gotta go to like a
jay Z or fifty and be like, yo, man, I
might need a loan on this, but this shit is business.
You don't spend that money on your own. So I
never ever blame am for my mistakes and nobody should.

(25:58):
Cause you gotta learn shit on you own. Ain't think
about that.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's a tough lesson to learn at the time though,
because any time, especially once you get to a certain
tax bracket, whatever you make, you have that.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
But then people around let me tell you something. The
people that's around and Beyonce, a fifty, a jay Z
and nas, they don't give about the niggas that's surround.
They don't give about yay yo banks, this nigga, this nigga.
They care about fifty cent. That's it. So they're not
going to school. You the game. We don't go to
school and we don't learn about real estate rights and
shit like that, because no, no, that's the that fifty

(26:32):
is their responsibility.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Hove has hit their responsibility. Beyonce is their responsibility. Who
the auxiliary pieces? They don't care.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I just know you got this money, and some people
are gonna figure out the way to monopolize, like I'm
gonna tell you, and I'm not mad at them, but
shy money and fifties baby moms turning into real estate
agents when they know we had house money. So I
bought my house with shot money or for shy money, lady,
and it's cool. We kept the money in the family.
But they knew to turn into real estate. These niggas

(27:01):
got some money. I could make some money off them, right,
But school me the game because I might not might
probably bought a house for a million at that time,
I could have bought a house for probably a half.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
A million, right, Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Or right here, you're right. My first purchase might not
have to ben a million dollar house, but that's more
money for them at the same time too. But as
you get older, you realize that and I don't take
nothing from shot money. He's a good dude, but he
made profit him and his lady or for selling me
that house. It was a smart move on their part.
But people never care about the niggas that's around me.

(27:36):
I listen, nobody ever cared about Yayo. Only person that
cared about yo is fifty. They only gonna do shit
if fifty say do it. The lawyer's only gonna move
with fifty say to it.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Do it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
The hotel's gonna be nice only fifty say do. They'll
have put me in a crackhead hotel. You know what
I'm saying. But fifty is not Now he gonna be
in this hotel. And that's why I got the respect
for him. It's not glazing, it's not no. You get
credit whords due, you get credit wheres due. That's it.
That's it. It's not my show, it's his show. And
one thing I never forget. I do clubs, you know,

(28:09):
house and blue shit like that. I don't do arenas.
I ain't Chris Brown, I ain't fifty, I ain't jay Z.
And I'm cool with that. When I'm on stage and
I'm on in front of thirty forty thousand These people
ain't screaming for Yo. They screaming for fifty cent. I
do my job because it's a business. I'm cool with
everybody in production. Stay out the way. I don't bother nobody,

(28:29):
and I keep it moving. That's it. I get my
money and that's it.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Your debut album, thoughts of a predicate Felon you went gold,
you finished second place the late registration Kanye.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
You like because Kanye album?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, Kanye put me up that year. I never forget
it because he was like, who's the president at that time? Bush? Yeah,
he was like the president is racist? Remember he went
viral before us. Going viral was what it was. Yeah,
I always had obstacles in my career, Like I dropped
the same day as Kanye God locked came home, gole

(29:09):
locked up. I'm used to it, bro, but I'm still here,
you know, But that was crazy. I probably would have
went platinum that same day if it wasn't for Kanye,
but he dropped. And you know what's crazy about my
career because I remember seeing Kanye in the studio with
Doctor Dre. Yeah, and I didn't even know who he was.
He was nobody at that point because at that time.
He was probably just doing beats then, right, he wasn't

(29:29):
rapping before the accident. He was doing beats. He was
in Dre's studio, he was in fifty ear. I think
he was trying to get on the album. I didn't
know who he was, and now I look at him like,
oh shit, this is Kanye West. Damn. I remember when
Luther Chris did radio fifty beat up Joall Rue in Atlanta,
punched him in his eye. He had a black eye

(29:50):
running around. Luther Christ was doing radio.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
That really happened fifty point y'all.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Fifty always beating up joa root man. That was a
regular thing. Man y'all ruined them. They they never really
been tough guys to me, like IRV, I don't really
know him. They just had a tough guy image because
they was around, you knowing preing Chris Gotti just had
a story talking about he closed on fifty playing fifty
don't even play basketball. Niggas just make up shit because
it's the endternet Like, I don't try to glorify this

(30:17):
gangster shit. But Ja Rue has never been a street nigga.
Right then, were trying to get fifty to respond, huh,
fifty fifty a real street nigga.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
You know, I saw some lady talking about, well, you know,
fifty was one of those little guys. Fifty never said
he was a king hen nah. But you know what
I'm talking about with that lady was say that.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Was his BM that said that.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
I think, oh, okay, so she.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Going he had a whole bunch of yaos. I didn't
even work for fifty. He had a whole bunch of
little yo's. People always try to discredit you fifty was fifty.
Oh look, fifty was fifteen with a four runner. He
was sixteen seventeen with the bens. Niggas was getting money.
I don't glorify it because we was pumping poison hood,
so it was not a something.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
To glorify some But you're just speaking fast.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
We live. We we was Niggas, wasn't l Chapo. Niggas
wasn't poblo or. We was happy. A nigga get to
a brick in the hood. He happy, nigga, you get
to a half a bird, you get to one hundred
and fifty grams, two hundred fifty grams. Niggas was happy.
I felt like El Chapo I had two hundred and
fifty grams. Oh shit, I'm at two fifty Oh shit,

(31:20):
of course. But now we look at that money, it's nothing.
That's the whole point. Niggas are dying in the hood
over bullshit money. Look how far we've been there. Now,
that's not even one show. People always gonna try to
discredit you and say shit, bad shit about you, you know,
and be mad because you might not give him money
is a I don't never want fifties money. I don't

(31:42):
never want that much money. Money is everybody's out to
get you. Give me, give me Jimmy, I beans that
I don't want to be listen, give me a little
bit of money and I'm good. It's like, once the
nigga gets.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
You, you want the fortune, but not the fame to
come along with it.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's like, once the nigga get to a hundred million,
he's for something. Give me ten million, twenty. I'm good.
When you when you went out, when you aiming to
get a hundred million, it's like everybody's coming for you. Lawsuits, dude,
stick up kids. It's just too much, bro. Give me
a simple life. Simple.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
What's it like working with dre In the studio.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Dre is the best experience ever. In the studio, man,
we used to smoke that Guido. He had this guy
in there playing the piano. He was playing nothing but hits.
Like I said, Like Kanye came in there. He played
records with Rock Kim. He had you know, at that point,
he had a girl named Brooklyn. He had Shout Joe
beats at that time, he had game. He had a
whole bunch of artists because a lot of artists was dope.

(32:39):
Cause Dre is just a real picky like.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Cause he don't want to work.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
He worked with the shooting it ain't coming out Like
he did records with Dipset. That shit ain't never come out.
He did records with certain people, it ain't never coming out.
But he's like a real particular nigga. Like I remember,
he used to tell fifty to one line over and
over again, do it over, say it like this, and
I under stood, sometimes it's not what you say, that's
how you say it. Dre is a perfectionist as well

(33:06):
as eminem. So that was an experience. I'm from the hood,
never had nothing, never even been to La I remember
we were staying at the Beverly fifty was told my
man me and my man Weezy. He was like, Yo,
don't touch the Eminem's and the shit. You know, the
Eminem's in the hotel.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeahs like sixteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
He's like, whatever you want, we can just go to
the store. I know my man. He was mad at
my man because he touched the eminem Right till this day,
I still buy that shit. I'm in a Fountain Blue
over here. I stayed there. I'm like twenty dollars for
Fiji water. I'm like, yo, I'll just go to the store, right,
have my man funk take me his store water for
three dollars. I'm a hood Nigga's never gonna leave me.
You know, you could take me out the hood, but

(33:45):
it's always in me.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
You got to be in the studio with Beyonce. Beyonce
is one of the hardest working women, the hardest working people.
I don't want to general, I don't want to say
man or woman, but to see what she's become. Yeah,
from where she came, she.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Was big back then when he was in the studio.
I remember Toning Pope kicked everybody out. Fifty had a record,
would have called thug Love and they was all in
the studio when they kicked everybody out. It was thug Glove.
This before Fifty got shot, because Fifty was gonna blow
off power to Dollar. He had Beyonce, he had toning
pop track masters at the time, was very big. They

(34:24):
was working with you know, big artist, Pete Diddy, They
was working with all Kelly, They was working with j Lo.
They was working with everybody, and niggas got kicked out
the studio couldn't be in the studio. That's when it
was destiny Child. But yeah, it's crazy when you see
a lot of artists even become bigger than you, it's amazing.
He was like, damn shit, I'm not mad at my career,

(34:44):
but they career well took well off past my BA.
Like I said, to see Kanye where he was at,
or to see Luda.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I think the most impressive thing that I've seen in
my lifetime might be Beyonce in one genre and then
go to another. Yeah, she's out of here. You can't
with the bees Man. That's you know, it's crazy man.
Dollars ship man, that ship he crazy. Yeah, Beyonce is
on the whole other level.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
To me, it's Beyonce Taylor Swift. They that connect.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, it ain't nobody else close, not not in not
I don't know if there's any it's I mean not
in the not in the woman's space.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Ain't nobody close to those two.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Nah, there's them too. Show Wise, Yeah, they net connect
to me because I feel like Beyonce came first and
then they made Taylor Swift. They had to make time
that could match Beyonce, and it's cool will Taylor Swift.
I don't really listen to like Beyonce, right, you know
they connect. That's ridiculous. The shows and the tickets they self.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I read you went to Jimmy Alvian's mansion.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, that was that was crazy. That was crazy because
he lived He lived right across the street from the
Playboy mansion. So that was like and what you call
them he and a bills. Yeah, he had FBI guys
with dogs. Like it was crazy. You had a movie
theater and and ship tables were spinning. Yeah, you know,
people serving us as the tables were spinning. He had

(36:06):
a candy store in the movie theater. It was like crazy, man,
I ain't never seen nothing like that. Real money man.
In my first and my first time ever leaving the
hood going to Cali, Like, damn its crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
You're like, I don't want this much money. I do
much money, but you know what comes.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
But yeah, I know you gotta be low key. You
gotta be on the low. You have to be low
key because them lawsuit. See fifty caught a lot of lawsuits,
because a lot of beatdowns. Dude's getting the jaw broke
fifty thousand, fifty paying that I'm seeing you in fifty something.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I got nothing to do with.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, but people will associate the name. Yes, that's like
one of your camera guys. He slaps somebody right now,
I'm showing you in sha shape.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Gonna sue you too.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I was like, we make it even slapping back. That's
all like that slap yo.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Bro, when you're an alarm light, you are walking lawsuit.
He in the Hall of Fame. Man, man his brother.
Oh shit, he got money slapped. I got slapped by shaped.
They slapped me sha shaped. Somebody fall to the ground.
Now that's how I'm to look at it.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Dave Chappelle, Oh man, Dave.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Chappelle, Like I said, man, it's so many jewels he got.
I told you we was out there. I think we
was in Ohio. We went to a store. He's a
real laid back guy. No cameras, but I told you,
you know, look why you turn out all that money?
My belly was full. God made my belly full. The
most humblest thing that hurt my life from from somebody.
He don't care about jewelry. No, it's just farmland, nice air.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
They tried to take away. See the thing what made
that makes Chappelle special. They tried to take away something
he never prioritized, which was money and fame. So when
they tried to strip it from him, it didn't bother right.
So now he can just like, I'm performing at such
and such and it's sold out in five minutes. So

(38:04):
when they take something that wasn't important to you to
begin with, it can't impact you.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's crazy. But you know other people in public and
other friends and family, I know they're gonna look at
you crazy. He turned out fifty million, crazy, but.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
He never valued that. That's why when he loved.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
When the Hollywood turned his back on him, you ain't
see him go back, try to beat down doors and
try to get back into acting. You ain't see him
try to get another show because you tried to take
something that he didn't value to begin with. You can
only harm someone if you take something that they value.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Dude, that was a sponge for me when he said
that car got my belly full already? Y Yo, Like,
damn when you hear somebody turn don amount of money
because people are you know, killed selling so for that
kind of money, Yeah, for sure he's turning it down.
I'm like wow. And he said call got my belly fool.
That was a jew for me. Man, Definitely, when you
saw John Cena do your dance, what you would you think? Oh? Man,

(38:59):
that was crazy. He always gives me props though he
always said his brother amped him up to do it,
and he always give me my props. I wish I
would have made some money off a videough someway somehow.
That dance was actually made with fifty Son Marquis because
I was on the run and I think he was
at that video shoot. And I always used to go,
what are you gonna do when the I remember him
as a kid, What are you gonna do when the

(39:21):
police you on tv AO? And I'd be like I'm
just gonna do this dance because I was in the
club on the run. That's where it originally came from.
In the club video. Shoot good times, man, I'll tell
you I have more fun before the money came in, but.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
When they brought it back, because I think Angel Rees
did it.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, angel Ree, she did it. You know, she's definitely
an entertaining basketball player. I think she had a double
double other night. Yeah, and John Cena just he made
it to John, but he always give me my props
for it, admit to it.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
So you know you mentioned this earlier. I sat down
with Fat Joe and I asked, let's say Fat Joe
Yale was telling the story. I think you guys were
at a radio station and you tried to make peace
and you went to dap him up.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, well callen no, that was callin.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I told my man Nelson, right, Yes, I told him.
I said, yo, listen, I don't want to Seductive was out. Meanwhile,
my street team's getting chased around because street team used
to go through a junius. Street team used to get
shot at, chase, beat up, all kinds of shit. So
my street team was going at it because you put
a YAlO post up, post up, mothers on you, right.

(40:38):
I told him I don't want to go to radio.
We go to radio. Calls there.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Did you know he's gonna be there?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Okay, my man Nelson.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Because sometimes people that do radio, really they understand radio,
but they don't understand the street politics. I told him,
let's skip this. We don't have to do this, right, Yo,
we gotta do this. I'll make sure I go up there. Correct,
he got his guy there. I'm not gonna say no
names because, like CALLI said, he didn't want to say

(41:11):
no name. He know who he is. He's a street nigga.
He's well known, he's certified, and his waist is bolting
right from then from that then on, I knew it
was on. This is Florida. Niggas got choppers and all
kind of shit. I'm not taking nothing lightly because I
leave New York. I'm not one of them New York
niggas to think on from New York we the toughest.
I know I can get it in Saint Louis. I

(41:32):
know I can get it in Atlanta. I know I
can get it in Florida. On the show, I'm a
paranoid nigga. That's what kept me alive. So you know
what I'm saying, that's what keep you alive. Pid. So
you know I went to shake Callahan and he did
what he's supposed to do. He yo yo. You know
at that time he was getting extremely hot.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Because here's the thing. Now, if you know Cali Keller
is all abouts. He wanted it. He's one of them guys.
So for Calendar not to shake your head or or
to say what you but we the.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Industry most hated though. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
To this day, they still hate us. You know, do
loeid Banks get his credit? No? Do Yaloe get his credit?
Do fifty get his credit? Yeah? With fifty Dow shit,
that's amazing. They always gonna praise fifty, you know, but
everybody don't get their credit. Game do we get his credit?
Right now? Even Buck? I can't take nothing away from
none of them. We also records and did big things.

(42:31):
But do we get our credit? No? Because Jane Unit
was the most hated. Our separation with Game is Game
one to do his own thing, you to collaborate with
other artists. When you look at it in hindsight, he
didn't have to be loyal to fifty because everybody ain't
gonna be loyal to fifty. Everything. Everybody's gonna be a yo,
everybody's gonna be a Banks. He more wanted to do
his own thing. When you look at it in hindsight,

(42:53):
it's cool, right, It's just the way he went about it,
just a little more humble, you know, because game come game.
I remember when he called me to be on this
album and I was like, damn hell, yeah, that's dope.
I remember speaking to his mom, so she's like, yo,
I'm I'm happy for him, right. You know, I'm one
of them niggas that embrace any nigga that come to

(43:14):
the team because I thought it was family. But then
when I realized about the industry, is it's not. These
people ain't your friends, your family. It's just business.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Mmm? Is there ever? Is there?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I shouldn't say ever? Chance percentage fifth ya yo? Banks
Buck Game.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I would love that. That would make us a lot
of money, but fifty don't need the money though.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Fifty done with it.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, he done with it. He he you know, he
don't care about June it no more. He's passed you
on the films and got a shitting street port going
on and liquor and old kinds of shit. But as
for me, I look at it like I wish a
lot of shit just didn't happen. You know, Buck was
a dope artist. Game is a dope artist. Banks. I
still talk to Banks this day, you know, But that

(44:05):
that'll be dope. And even if it couldn't be Gaming Buck,
if it was me Banks and fifty and do like
a mixtape tour, that would be that would be cool
with me because that's who I really grew up with.
That's why I can't never get mad at Banks. I
mean mad at Game Games from La you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
He was from Yeah, he ain't grow up with you guys.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, Buck wasn't from Tennessee. He ain't grew up up
with us. But for me, me outside looking in, I'm
seeing dudes with cars and jewelry, and I'm like, damn, motherfuckers,
ain't happy. But you know the thing about groups and
what music is, there is always egos.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
That's why you can't have a self destruction in the
music game. Now. It's too many egos. Yeah, jay Z
Niles fifty, you can't put them in the in the
room and make a wee all the world record too
many egos.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Fat Joe said, Man, I wish I had mel Tony Yale.
So I give my right hand to have a guy
have a Tony Yale.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I love Fat Joe. Fat Joe's working on a deal
for me that right now, for my podcast because he
see the vision. He see the numbers I've been doing
on Drink Champs and Breakfast Club and matth Hoffa and
Flad shout to Vlade because Vlade is a big platform this.
You know, I've been interviews while I do eighteen million rules,
twenty four million views, million worth, million dollars worth of game.

(45:24):
You know. So now I want to transition to the podcast.
This is what I want to do because I could
talk father.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, so now you want to you know, instead of
people asking you questions, you want to ask other.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Maybe you can put me on, maybe Shay Shaker, put
me on. What you'all think we talk?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
You keep some bull job going. What you took a
shot at the jah j Ru. Yeah boy, the low
ticket sales listen, why you.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Got to do that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Man, Okay, the man ain't selling like you once did.
It's okay, he's not He's not Phil. He's not he's
not gonna be Phil.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
And that's okay. Why you gotta keep juggal.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
You know what it is with y'all rue it just
you know, it's just something till the day we're not here.
I just would never like you, and I ain't low
hanging fruit though. You don't got it, that's true, but
you ain't got it. You ain't gotta like me. It's
the thing is, you know he was winning. All you
had to do was stay in your lane. You shouldn't
even even answer fifty. But fifty played the chess game

(46:23):
with you and beat you at your own game. You
know what it is with them? They was blessed and
they tried to block fifties blessings, and that's what them
up because God don't like ugly. I once heard of
somebody say that they tried to block fifties blessings when
they was blessed already. We should have just left it alone.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, you should.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
My grandmother used to say this all the time. My
grandma say, boy, God don't like ugly. Sometimes you don't
like pretty.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, and even with the earth, things like I didn't
say nothing bad about him when he passed away. But
it's still and if something God forbid happened to me
or fifty or anybody in our group, I know it
would be fuck us. Sometimes life is just like that.
Some people just never get along and it's cool.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
So you're gonna be You're gonna be arguing with Yoah,
you one hundred years with y'all.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I just don't with y'all. I don't put a lot
of people in the industry shape right. They not my friends.
And I had to realize that the hard way.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
You got stabbed, you were the fight with and you
got stabbed.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I got cut. There was nothing serious, got cut right
here with a scar right there and a little scar
on the finger. It just looked like a lot because
blood was coming out right. But it was scratches that
could have went left because that thing was there. If
it was if it was in that room, there would
be no job Rue. There would be no fifty. I
put that on my father, that there would be no

(47:41):
joy Rue. There would be no fifty. If somebody would
have squeezed, somebody would have went to jail and Joah
ruld have been finished. They came with crutches and butcher
knives and fruit shit like, come on, like, they ain't
coming no artillery. We had artilleries. But if that gun
was in that room, and I shit you not, that
gun with the forty five with no safety was in

(48:03):
that room, there would be no Ja Rut or whoever
else was in that room, his brother or brother, whoever
was in that room when we was getting it on.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
You said earlier that you thought the Drake and the
Kendrick beef was good.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah for who?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
For hip hop?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
For Kendrake, I think it was good for hip hop
because at that point, all he was listening to was
Sexy Red. That's all my man, my man strike work
in the club, Like, that's all I was playing in
the club of Sexy Red. I'm like, oh shit, this
is hip hop. I come off a battle rack, k
rest One mc shan. You know what I'm saying, BDP

(48:45):
nas Ether versus jay Z, Big Time hip Hop, fifty Ja,
ru Tupac, Michael Velli, this and Diddy, This is Jay
even this Prodigy Yeah, rest in peace. Prodigy and Prodigy
was my my joint. Remember we had l A l A.
They had New York Dog Pound had New York, New
York and Big City of Dreams.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
LL and fab ll cannabis.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, cannabis come second round, knockout cannabis came in. One
was working Dog Pound when they had New York, New York,
Big City of Dreams, remember that back in the day.
I think they got shot at Too snooping them when
they came to New York. When they shot that video,
there was a rumor. I don't know how real it is.
I love Uncle Snoop and Dog Pound, but and then

(49:31):
Prodigy and them had l A l A Big City
of Dreams because Pop was this and up that was
hip hop. I'm not gonna sit here and not say
I didn't listen to Michaelvelly, but I'm definitely listening to Biggie.
Who Shot You? I'm not gonna say I didn't like that.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Was listened to hit them up? Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
But then Biggie came back with all kinds of ship
who shot You? You know what I'm saying, Biggie is,
come on, Biggie and Pop b I think that that
was entertainment for the world at that point. Even though
it's sad that they both died because of the situation,
But they didn't keep it. Let's act like we didn't
like that, didn't like that battle, and let's not let's
act like magazines and publications what we had back then,

(50:11):
vibes or yeah, yeah, come on New York, LA, West Coast, Beef,
East Coast, West Coast. Let's act like, come on.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Bro, how did U jay Z and Big Pun Dissan fifty?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Remember fifty had how to Rob back in the day. Yeah,
and he was talking about a Robb Pun without a gun.
Listen piece of Pun and jay Z. You remember he
had that joint I'm about a dollar. That was a
hot record too, He said, I'm about a dollar with
the fifty. I forgot was that on the What album
was that? That was hard knocked? Like no, Yeah, because

(50:46):
fifty Distant on how to Rob? Right? See, how to
Rob was a crazy record because that's the first time
a rapper actually kind of dissed every rapper, right, But
it was comical because the mad rap no rad rappers
on that. Rodney Jerkins, Yeah, he said the saint serious,
but the rappers took it serious because it's all about image.

(51:06):
Rappers don't want to hear their names. She can get real, Yeah,
for sure, Pun Punk snatched up kids back in the
day for leaking up erect who could always talk about
it threw them in a man. Punk wasn't playing with
niggas like it's serious. Certain niggas ain't really like that.
Joe really like that, like people real Jo the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Uh somebody called uh jinocchio, what like joby like say
Joe by you know, be stretching the truth his.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Stories as funny as hell. But I like the beef
we had. I love cracking like pistol peek. Yeah, and
Joe and the niggas that was around with really serious
because like Bronx, Spanish niggas in the Bronx is as
dangerous as Black people in the Bronx. Wow, they dangerous too.
You know you got Spanish gangs trinitarios. Yeah, you got

(51:56):
Dominican power. You know these pull out machetes and ship Hey,
you know they came to struggle too, right, you know.
And them motherfuckers that he had around them, niggas would
they would die for the for the course pistol pete
know they were they were. I think they would have
died for Joe as well as we felt like we
would die for fifty right, they felt the same way.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Help me understand, because fifty had a great shoe with
Rebox at the time. I think Jay was the creative
director of Rebox.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
How did that go?

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I mean, everybody making money?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
How did it?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
How did it fall apart? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I don't. I don't even honestly don't know. I know
I was making over one hundred thousand a year just
wearing the shoe and we wasn't wearing it. And I
know Fifty got mad at us one day because you know,
you got d on, I got d on, Louis on whatever,
and Fifty looked at everybody's shoes and was like, nigga,
niggay'all got the shoes on because he knew what marketing was. Yes,

(52:49):
he wore he wore the junior junior Klovin was selling.
He wore it. You know, we wasn't wearing it. We
was wearing Louis bitar ship like that.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
They weren't paying you no money though, No, we got
hey not for Louis Vitan.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
No, I'm not from Louis Vuitton. But that's what I'm saying.
That's what he understood, the marketing aspect of it. He's like,
how can you expect us to sell something that you're
not wearing?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I mean we do it to this day. I got
on Louis buiton right now. You got on Dior, But
I got a black brand right here, top Flexa and
another black.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
I mean, if I had what's your color, I had
a shoe, I'll be having on my shoe.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
No, that's cool. You should have had your shoes. I
wear him too.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Now we're gonna see you about it. We're gonna see
you able to botis shit.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Shi me a bottle like I don't. I don't mind
supporting like sometimes I feel like we'll support other brands
and they will support other people's brands, like the guy.
I'm wearing this top Flexa. I'm not getting paid for
this right g unit, They not cutting me a check
for this. I just like the hoodie, but I like
wearing you know, people that are hungry brands too. I
don't mind. I like Kiff, I love a Mary, I

(53:51):
love Louis. I love that too. But I want to
you know, other stuff too, and we and look, we'll
spend big time money, like a lou Wayvy shirt. Yeah
you want to buy a T shirt that's six hundred
and fifty dollars for short sleeve that chrome herd T shirt,
and a dude in the hood might have a shirt
as well as that. It might be selling out for
one fifty and we don't want to support. Come on, man,

(54:12):
we gotta support. Come on. I agree. Agree, Even on tour,
I like to wear like other people brands. Max Siegelman,
this guy is the next guy. He has deals with
New York Knicks ranges, all these people. I still, you know,
I wear his, but I wear my man's hop plecture
from the hood that they don't got nowhere near them.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Be right with fifty jumping on the stage with jay
z Diaddy T.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, I remember that. That was fun.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
So what go?

Speaker 4 (54:38):
What go?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
What do you go?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
What's going through your mind? He like, fifty lost this day.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
I'm snigger crazy. I think you gotta be a little
crazy to be successful, right, and that's what fifty is.
Fifty is really crazy. He'll say, I'm crazy. He's crazy
right like right now. We did a tour, we did dates.
He flew to Australia to do Street Fighter. I'm like this,

(55:02):
niggas gonna go fly twenty three hours in Australia. He
don't even want to take a break, you know, like
he's he's crazy, something's really wrong with him. Like I'll
be looking like he'll go to the gym three times
a day. You know, he's doing push ups. I'm doing
push ups. I'm rolling up, can't keep through Paris. You
know I got my coniact. You know, I'm I'm you know,

(55:24):
we totally two different lifestyles, right, But he's going to
the gym three times a day, getting ready for the
Street Fighter film or getting ready for what he do.
And you know I respect it. But everybody ain't fifty.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Cent man, right, they blunt this fifty You think fifty
gonna respond, nah man.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Sometimes a matter of fact, he said he pushed them
down some steps or something, right, I think he said right,
he said he push him down some steps. But sometimes
I'll be like fifty. You on a whole nother level
where you.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Don't have to respond, You don't have to respond to.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Certain people or say certain things like meets or little
meachs right or roses or Dave blunts because these guys
are not doing what you're doing. They're not going on tour.
They they can't even some of these guys can't even
let's keep it real, can't make it to these markets,
the big dogs with Live Nation. Dog, you know what

(56:15):
I'm saying, fifty Nahs, jay Z, probably bon Jovi Live Nation.
Like these dudes ain't getting Chris Brown Live Nation. These
dudes ain't getting two hundred million out theres, four hundred
man out theres. It's levels, bro, Fifty's on the whole
other level. And I'm not glazing as they say. That's
what they say, Glad. I ain't glazing. It's just the truth.

(56:39):
It's levels some you know Drake, I'm not on Drake level.
I'm not on Kendrick level. It's cool, you know some
of these dudes getting five million the weekend. These guys
might get a million dollars for walkthrough. It's levels to
this shit, Nikki. You know, it's levels and it's cool.
You just realize it's levels to the shit. You ain't

(57:00):
mad at nobody. Yeah, and there's a lot of people fifty.
I feel like you don't have to say nothing, but
fifty's crazy. He's been like this his whole life. When
he's on a block or ship.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Fifty's coming just because I'm not just because you're not
on someone level doesn't mean I'm not pretty damn high up.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Yeah, because sometimes you make a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
The mistake that we can make, yeo, is that we
measure our success by somebody else's exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
It's just I hate when motherfucker's bumped me out the
way fifty to fifty. I just don't like that. Hey,
I hate that, you know, like, I just hate that.
Just don't bump me out the way all the time.
You want to fifty cool, he's on the WHO number.
Look like I said, just to come up from fifty. Listen,
all I'm saying to you is this, I want to
be there to leave my room, yeah for sure. No,

(57:48):
you can have the sweet Beyonce jay Z fifty not
y'all can have the sweets. Yeah, I want to leave
my room. I want to go to the hood and
get a beef patty with cocoa bread.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Sometime.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
I want to go get some macaroni here chicken. I
don't want to do that, and I'm good doing that, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Would you ever get married?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yeah? Why not? I think sometimes the industry keep you
from getting married. She's got to pick the right kind
of lady.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
See, I like my ladies from the hood. I don't.
I don't like night life. I don't strip a his
ball tenders. They cool, they beautiful women. I g I
like women straight from the hood. She got have a
nine to five and look as good as them. So
for me, you know, I can get married. It's about
that time soon.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
It's it's coming down.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
It got to happen soon. Nobody want to die lonely.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Right, is that what you're so? You only gonna get married. God,
you don't want to die alone. You probably should have
thought about that earlier.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
You're right, But nobody want to die lonely. And I think,
I think you.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Don't want to die lonely, or you don't want to
die alone, because there are two different things.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
You can be lonely and not be alone. You can
be alone and not be lone.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Though I never thought about that. I don't want to
die either way. Or what I'm saying is you know
what you know what it is because when you look
at everything, everything is based on money. Yeah, right, So
it's like I got a lot of money and be like,
oh shit, you gonna have half of this or half
of that, Like what's the football player just got married,

(59:18):
Travis Hunter, and he's getting divorced, right is it? That's
what they said. That's the room we're going around. It's
wife one fordy man. I look it, man, listen, well
that's going around. Now that's dumb, you know what I'm saying.
I understand. Safeguard your ship. You make a certain amount
of money, of course, safeguard it, you know, but give
your lady something I guess, or whatever you want to do,

(59:40):
but just make sure you safeguard I.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Think give it that Christiano Ronaldo package.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Right. I think people look at marriage is a business.
It is. It is.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
It's a transaction between two people.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
We shouldn't look at it like that, though, because when
our parents got married, they didn't look at it like that.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, but why didn't have money exact exactly they were
in currently.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
But see that's the thing about money. You can have
money and still not be happy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
For sure, absolutely the thing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Then you can have you come on like put it
like this, having money and having kids. When our parents
it was not even about that. No, Like that's how
I look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Acting Finty got this this thing going up in Streeport.
You trying to get you trying to get you got.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Trying to get down fifty, get me a job. I'm
trying to get listen, I'm trying to do this podcast thing.
I got cannabis deals going on. I'm still doing shows
on my own right, Like I said, I was just
in Germany. I did my first show in the Swiss Alps.
You believe that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Me, I couldn't skip for ship. I wasn't trying to ski.
Skin is not for me. I'm seeing little kids come
down the slopes because what is the level was? I
think it goes red black? Yeah, they got different level
than you get on you man, you ever skip before?

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I never tried that ship. I was bugging. But you know,
five star restaurants, living a life. I live in a moment, man,
Like I'm living in a moment here, I'm on show.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Have you ever been starstruck all the time? Who made
you starstruck?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Big Daddy came Coogie Rap, Wesley Snipes, the Kardashians, Mike Tyson. Ah,
but my starstruck is always keep my composure, right, I'm like, ah,
not like that, No ship like that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
But you think it to yourself, like, damn, I can't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah, because we from were from New York, So New
York they could see a rap up, see a NAS
and they might be Yo, Nas, what up? Fab up
New York? We never be extra yo Joe, yo fifty
what up?

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, y'all what up that? That's New York for you.
We ain't New York. Ain't blazing nobody. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. But for me, I'm starstruck in a
silent way, like, but I'm gonna say something to Tyson,
like Tyson too, min expand my horizons with the caveat
he he an't remember you like it? Like cariot. I'm

(01:01:58):
a Hollywood now. See that's the thing. I could still
eat a bee pattern coco bread, eat some cavealls, card
go in Dubai, Yeah, some caviar pancakes. You know, I'm
I expand my horizon. That's from Tyson Chappelle, my belly
full right, you know, Wesley Snipes dancing in there. I
don't watch New jack City three hundred times and like, yeah, yeah,

(01:02:20):
that's one of my favorites. You know, I'm a movie guy. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
You toured with a NAS.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, that was an experience too. Really, it was a
Notionraal dominant experience. It was me and fifty on his
tour bus had Jungle all his people there. That was crazy.
That was the moment in life.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I met Jungle when we did queens Bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah. Nas probably wouldn't remember, but for me, that shit
was big, like and for me what was crazy with
Nas was he had drop illmatic and you know he's
talking about weed and blunts, but he was on the
bus reading books, So that shit was different from im, Like, damn, shit,
quiet on here, this nigga ain't smoking that weed. I'm
an addict for sneakers, twenties of booter and chickens with beepers,

(01:02:57):
So I'm like, I'm thinking it's gonna be big blunts burned.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
This was reading books. Uh huh. Yeah, Nas was reading books, man,
So I was like, damn this ship, this ship real
jungling them of course stayed wild, yeah right, for sure,
you know, but for me, I'm like, yo, this reading
books on head, like really reading and like that's how
you knew he had them balls and was kind of
smart because he was saying, some ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
With knives you on, catch you on tour with cash
money and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, that was our first to ever me and Fifty
opened up for Cash Money, Jenny, Cash Money and Rough Riders. Wow. Yeah,
that's when fifty ou high to rob he was doing
one record. That's how far we can't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Wow, that was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Definitely, you ever looked back, He's like, damn, you look
at where you are currently and you look back where
you came from, do you like?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I love it for me? Like I was like, like
I said, I listened to Fat Joe Jealous One's enemy,
so we had beef for them. I listened to Wu Tang,
had beef for them. Ghost Face don't like me till
this day, but ghost Face, you know, we had beef
for Wou Tang like I look up to DMX like
so it's like even.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
When be with that, but y'all beef with everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Damn yeah, they all friends with fifty though he got
the money, they're not. I remember one time we was
with Wu Tang and they was like I think it
was risen in them, and they was like, everybody come
back there except except for it. I mean, we just
want fifty back there. No yea yo, no nobody damn yeah,
Woo Tang I wol Tango I came up listening to them.

(01:04:39):
You know, I'm a I got banned from MTV Red Carpet,
Like I know how the industry is just fifty. My
whole career just fifty, just fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
But you're cool with that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, I'm cool with it. Don't bother me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
You You spoke about how Bleak said that Fifth don't
look out for you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Don't look out for Yeah, go ahead what I said.
I don't want to cut you off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Yeah, no that ja Yeah, Jay don't look look at
a Bleak like Philip look out for you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
He said it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
He said, Bleak said it. Bleak said the whole doesn't
look out for me like philth looks out for him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
And then he said he eat his home high lout,
he eats on his own. I eat on my own too,
on my own tour. But trying to take a shot, Yeah,
because that and it's a cool shot because I just
came off to it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
When have you seen Bleak on tour on his own? Right?
If if he's doing something with Freeway and Seagull on
them like that. It came to a point where fifty
was helping Segul all I'm saying is when you look
at a situation, jay Z is not a bad guy.
Bleak is not a bad No, I'm not saying it.
I'm saying to you that jay Z was all business

(01:05:48):
with them niggas. When buck up on his taxies, fifty
a piece of move. You know what I'm saying. When
Prodigy bought a house and needed more money, fifty a
piece of more. Prodigy are paying back to stand what
I'm saying, I've seen ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
So another word you said, Hole has always kept it
business business fifty. The thing with fifty is it was
business and we was friends. I don't feel like Bleek
was jay Z friend. I don't feel like Young Guns
was jay Z friend. I don't feel like and that's
okay friend.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
I mean you was early.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
You probably should learned, learned or known early on what
type of relationship that it was. Definitely, so therefore there's
no misunderstanding and time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Yeah, so I've seen fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
But he shouldn't. He shouldn't measure his friendship by what
you and fifth have. But a lot of people do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Man, my boy, man, I wish my boy looked out
for me like that, or I look my boy, my boy,
don't look at for me like you're such as Okay,
but y'all don't have the type of relationship that me
and Fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Have exactly like I like, I've seen been on a
block with Fifth. I don't know if Bleek was on
the block with Jay, right, don't know that. And I'm
not taking nothing from him. I'm not here to blow
shot to discredit him. All I'm saying is I've seen
Fifth Piece people off when they had tax pop Jay
did it, but he did it with Little Wayne later on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Right, he didn uh, he helped him Babbage with an
immigration lawyer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Right, he helped dm Max when DMX wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Leave Rock Nation. Right, that's Rock Nation, that's whole. We
are not discrediting. But when have you seen him at
that point when Young Guns and Bleak was there and
Siegu was there, Siegu was left in the dust. Let's
keep it real. That's how I looked at it. He
could have got once he disrespect cool, I understand, But
if he didn't disrespect and the dude is loyal there,

(01:07:43):
it should be more opportunities. All I'm saying is when
Fifth have a tour, anger management tour, me and banks,
everybody on tour, m O P mob deep any all
that he had, he put him on the platform.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Because I think the thing now is that a lot
of people like it's upset a whole.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I don't know if the upset may be too strong
of a word, but like he see Dame Dash going
through it right now, Dame helped him and and he
see Dame struggling and he's not letting a hand out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
I just felt that at that point, Dame is taking
so many James.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Do you feel like Dame was too cocky though? Yeah, yeah,
but hear the cocky is because and all the other
niggas is eating all them other niggas that was over there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's got that boy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Maybe Dame should have been a little humble. And I
don't got nothing against Dame.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I love with Dan, but you can't take no shots
at the man and didn't the man to help you. Yeah,
of course you don't take shots at the man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
That's the same thing with Buck in fifty or Game
in fifty. Once you take shots, I never.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
No, no, no, no, no no no, You're not finna
take no shots at me. And didn't get down on
your bakes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Never took shots at No fifty. I never took no
shots at fifty. No, we brothers. We might have a disagreement, right,
But what I'm saying to you is it must have
not been a brotherly relationship over there. It was more business.
And I understand who with that because fifty didn't have
to pay bucks taxes or help them with that. It's business.
If I make a half a million, if you make

(01:09:10):
me a half a million and I spend two fifty,
and I'd be like, shay, shakee damn, I fucked up
this money? Can you lend me?

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
And if you say no, right, no, because people always
remember when you say no, they never remember.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
They never married.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Yes, it's right, they don't remember to say no, it's
you in the room. No, they remember. They never remember
the thousand. Yes, it's only the one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
No, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Man, right, yes see.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
And so if you say no, you make me a
half a million, I spend a quarter million or maybe
three hundred, I'm like, yo, shit, I'm up. I arrest
in my back and you say no, I'm mad at you. Now,
that don't make no sense. You gotta handle that on you,
on you, on your your own brother.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
What does loyalty mean? If somebody says, yayo, what's loyalty
to you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I think loyalty is not judging a person if they
tell you something like, if they tell you something personal,
like if you tell me something.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
You're going through, judge, I listen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I don't judge. I don't go back and tell twenty
people thank you. I think loyalty is never looking at
watching pocket watching. I think loyalty is never a side
out in a man's girl or his side check or
whatever you have, his wife or whatever it is. And
I think loyalty is just being real. That's it. If

(01:10:32):
Fifth was wrong, could you tell him that he's wrong? Fifth? Crazy?
It's hard to tell that nigga he's from terrorists. It's
hard to tell him he's wrong. But I think you
know your friends for who you are. Like I got
this loud friend, I got this friend that's crazy. I
got this friend that might be a trouble maker. I
don't want to hang with him because he's gonna get
us some trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Yeah, we're hanging with her.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
I think knowing your friends for who you are, Like
I got friends that I might have talk to in
a while, but I still love him, still got love
for him. But you know your friends for who you are.
This friend might be all about themself. Might have that friend.
This friend might be a trouble makeup. I got a
friend like that. Always start in trouble, my man thirst,
Like I say, it, always start in trouble. I got

(01:11:15):
a friend that maybe is always a liar. I got
a friend that's crazy. You know what I'm saying. I
think you know your friends for who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Accept them for that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I always tell people, accept the person as they are,
not how you wish them to be, and you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
How do you people, how do you get people to
set their egos aside for the greater good? Because I
think you kind of alluded to that a little bit
in the situation with Buck and some of these other
guys in g UNIT, is that they weren't able to
set their egos aside for the greater good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Right because in a group there's always egos, all right,
More girls like him, he got more money, he's more flashy,
he's in shape, he got better calls, he got this.
Don't worry about that, don't worry about what banks getting
paid banks. Shit, Buck shouldn't worry about what banks getting paid.
I shouldn't worry about what game being paid. Game, so
more records to me. If he getting paid more than me, cool,

(01:12:11):
let's negotiate a price. I'm my price might be lower
than games banks, so more records than Buck or Buck
so more records than him. If we should be able
to negotiate a price, it should be in a June,
a tour without Fitty, and he says that like it
should be where we could sit down and be like, yo,
we're gonna go get this money, like how you see
Lil Wayne and Juvenile and everybody. But there was some

(01:12:33):
beef with that because he got into a little beef
and he got off the tour. But we all started
off as friends. Why we can't get money together? It's
all about keeping the legacy alive. You know. With Game,
our situation got sticky because of Jimmy Henschman was his management.
You know, I feel like that beef. I never had

(01:12:54):
a problem with Jimmy Henchman. That was inherited from Chris Lighting.
Chris Lighting and Jimmy Henchman never got a you know,
that was they Then we messed with Chris Lighton violator,
Rest in peace to him. You know, he was a
big part of fifties career, a big part of Fat
Joe's career, a big part of LLL career, a big
part of Foxy Bhand career, a big part of Diddy career,

(01:13:16):
a lot of artists and on and on. You know,
he was a pillar of hip hop. He worked a Tunnel,
one of the most dangerous clubs to work at. You know,
I so always shout out Chris Lighting because I remember
being that violator with Mona Scott, which is a genius.
She got love of hip hop and all that stuff. Right.
You had James Cruz there right, which was a smart guy.

(01:13:37):
You had Yande which was smart. You had Claudine which
worked with l L. So that was like a part
of the machine. But that beef was inherited. And then
resting peace of my man Loodie Mac.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
We went down for they said we slapped Henchman Son.
You know, the thing that wiled me about the Henchman
situation was how you wanna assume me and kill me?
It gotta be one or the other. In my life.
When I write my book, listen, when I write my book,
it's gonna be one of the craziest books. Ever. How

(01:14:12):
you want to assume me and kill me? And I
could talk about this because Henchman's down from Natural Life
for selling drugs. Anyway, he was putting drugs and like
stereo speakers and shit like that, dumb shit. He was
being watched, Feds watch everybody in his business. But there's
no way you can sue me and want to kill me.
Slap your son, cool. I understand you want to kill me,

(01:14:33):
Just kill me, or you could have took my always
looked at that situation like he could have instead of
killing my man Lodi Mack supposedly, but he got arrested
for it because all his niggas told on him, right,
All the niggas that he had doing dirt with him,
shooting the mother house up his driver is all documented.

(01:14:53):
I ain't snitching, I ain't telling not it's all documented.
It's all in paperwork. Those are the same niggas he
had doing told on him, right. But I looked at
my man Lody Mack, which, all right, we slap your son.
I understand you want to kill somebody, right, supposedly, And
I didn't even slap his son. My man did right supposedly,

(01:15:15):
and instead of I think killing my man lody Mac,
I think you should have just kidnapped him, broke his legs,
broke his arms, and we would have got the point.
I understand when it comes to a kid, because touch
your kid or anybody else's kid, I understand. But with
that situation right there, reci peace of my man Lody
Mac always felt like y'all didn't have to kill him.

(01:15:35):
Y'all could have just beat him up, pad break his ribs,
break his arms, break his legs. We would have got
the point. I know, I would have got the point.
Then his tortured is cool and drop him off. I'm
quite sure he would have said and that. But he
got unlive. There was some rap shit, and that's when
there's a thin line between the industry and real shit. Yeah,

(01:15:56):
and it's always been like that, being with fifty it's
bulletproof trucks and niggas getting shot at and all kinds
of shit serious, even with the job rushit. Like I said,
if a pistol was in a room at that time,
johouldn't even be it. He wouldn't be here. I would
have finished him. Yeah, I wasn't no I wasn't no
rap at that point, I was a street nigga. So

(01:16:17):
for me, the nigga, that's what we lived by. And
it's a sad thing, but come in there, that's nothing
but self defense. Fifty probably fifty would have did it
or I would have did it, no career and Joahreul
would have been out of here because the pistol was there.
And that's how easy it is. One decision that changed anybody,
like but I'm glad that didn't happen because the cop

(01:16:38):
fall we've been Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
And you sit here today, what would you tell your younger.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Self stay out of trouble or stay out of trouble.
But sometimes it's not the artist, it's the entourage around you.
And it's the that around you and people around you.
That's why you see even with a lot of artists
like you see Dirk situation. If the niggas around you,

(01:17:09):
you know what I mean, you see any artist niggas
getting in some shit, could be the niggas around you.
It's not always the artist, but you know who's gonna
be the blame if something happened in Shae Shade did
or I'm near Oh Shae Shaye was dead. That was
Niggas ain't saying what the nigga did. Yeah, niggas are saying,
YAYO did that. Yeah, I would tell my younger self

(01:17:29):
stay out of trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Damn you got I think J Cole was Did J
Cole sposed to sign what g Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
J Cole always shout to J Cole. He always showed
me loves Jake Cole. Fifty was sleeping upstairs in this mansion,
and J Cole was downstairs in the studio. He was
doing Simbo. I'm like, yo fifty to sign this. Mother
Kathy was upstairs sleeping. Jray Cole was downstairs studio and
Nicki Minaj dude, nigga acknowledged I was on her early

(01:18:01):
Findy was just he didn't want us on it like
the office he was on Nicki. Nicki used to be
in the Nicki came a long way. She used to
be in a studio called sack Passe. You know my
man Bundy, my man Maserati Fox Western Peace to him.
Stack Bundles used to be in there. It was a
well known studio that's on the north side right, and

(01:18:21):
nick used to be in there. And she used to
go hard ron in and the mixtape she wasn't on right.
So now you see how far she been because she's like,
come on, she's like a pillar hip hop. We was
on her tour too, man, I mean a Bob tour
that was like crazy man wow. But you know that
was a studio she used to be in Queens. So
I've been like a Nicki fan and been on Hudson's

(01:18:42):
because we've seen her like level of level. I've been
in sock Passe a couple of times. I never did
when she was there, but people always told me she
was in there with Stack, you know, Recipe Stack Bundles.
He was another legend.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I always said Jim Jones had the dream team with them.
He had Max be and Stack Bundles. I felt like
the motherfuckers was just Max went to jail and Stat
got killed. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Do you feel that, Biggie it is a better storyteller
than ce because CB responded, I think you said it.
He responded like if asking he would ask, is writing
movies or writing for others?

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Does that still count?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
No, we're talking about writing music movies. Can't take nothing
away from him. But like to me, Biggie was like
an ultimate songwriter with one song today's agenda, got the
suitcase of been the central god on when one twelve
tell them block on centure, feel the strangest if no
money is exchanges. Got these niggas and rangers to leave.

(01:19:41):
They know brainless. All they told is stayless because he's
telling the story and you're seeing it. Or when you
talk about a story to tell being at another god's
grid and the nigga he's a New York nick and
that's storyteller. Slick Rick, you know storytelling. It's to me,
every rapper ain't a storyteller. No, slick Rick was a storytelling. Yes,

(01:20:02):
come on when you see me walking down the street
and I'll start to crying. Cool, come on, punk on by,
come on to me. That's like the ultimate storytelling. Or
Nads when he say I ran like a cheetah with
thoughts of an assassin, or when he made the song
of being a gun and he was a gun and

(01:20:24):
he was talking about with how gun affected the community,
but he was being a gun. You ever listen to
that song, I gave you power? You think about it.
What he's talking about is ahead of time. It's like
even with the kids. Now, a kid will have a gun,
he'll shoot at one person and it gets addicted. So
when you look at the nas song, I gave you power,
I made you buck Wow, I made you crazy? How

(01:20:45):
you like me?

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
It's an addiction, right. A motherfucker gets slapped around, be
beat up. He shoot his gun a couple of times,
and he got props in the neighborhood. Everybody look up
to him. Now leave him alone with him and now
gets addicted. Now that niggas. So when you hear the
song I gave you power, that's what the gun that
them songs like that to me last for centuries.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
I read that hot You're the reason the Hot One
was a successful show. You one of the first guests,
and you told them they need to change the format.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Definitely shout out to Hot Ones. I told them to
change the format. You gotta eat the wings with me.
You want me to eat these wings, you gotta eat
them with me. And that actually changed the format of
the show.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
You know, I think I did Hot Ones? Did we
do Hot Ones?

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
And I was the first artist to ever be on
that show, and I changed the dynamic of the show.
They even admitted it. Some shout to them, So why
did you do it? I don't know. I just was like, yo,
you gotta eat the wings with me. You want me
to eat these hot thatss wings, you eat them with me?

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
And he just was like, okay, did you eat them all? Nah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
I'm Haitian. I can. I can take some spice, but
I don't know. I don't know how down south? What
what's the spider?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
I don't no, no, no, I ain't no, I ain't
no hot, I ain't no spikey.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
I know y'all eat spicy ship then.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah, no, they you're going further down. You go in
the Louisiana. That's when they start eating the spicy, the
gumbo and all that other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Now, yeah, because it's Haitian's we got to pickley. We
got certain kind of spices that we like. I like spicy,
like I like jerk chicken. I like spicy food. So
that was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Hey, you got anything you want to promote?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I want to promote the podcast coming up? Fat Joe
volume up? What's up? Or maybe Nori or maybe balls Stool?
I got the cannabis line about to drop? What else?
I got tours coming out? I got music coming out.
I got the free YAlO shirts about to come out,
Passball Gang shirts. I'm just hustling, and I appreciate being

(01:22:35):
on the Shade Shade Show, and I appreciate y'all for watching.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Love you man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
You got me drunk right now.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle on
a slice, got all my life, I'd be grinding all
my life, all my life, grinding all my life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Uh, second price, Tussel paid the price.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
Want a slice?

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
I to throw the dice that's wide. All my life.
I've been grinding all my life. M m hm

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