Club Shay Shay - Tyronn Lue Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Paul
Pierce went viral for said he's the best pure score.
I mean, I mean, I mean, name come to mind,
and like maybe Kobe Hard Jordan KD.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Not said that he was a hell of a score. Yeah,
and people was my guy. I mean, he's my guy.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We came out to drive together in ninety eight from
the lockout year. We worked out together Inglewood High School
every single day. Like that's my guy. But he said
some crazy stuff, you know. But nah, I mean I'm
taking away like like I always say, just because Bron's great,
don't mean Katy.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Wasn't isn't great, because it isn't like, yeah, Peep was
a great score. Right footwork, post on the elbows, catching,
shoot threes off. He could do it all.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
So he's not lying about that, you know. So he
gets a lot of you know, but he could definitely score.
But like you said, when you you know, say KD
and you know Cob and Georgia, I got your feet
the line more than him, Yes, but I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
That's why he is who he is because hit the
confidence he had right know what I'm saying, That's why
he is who he is, So what was it?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Because I remember the last time Lebron was in Cleveland,
you guys beat him, and he had a monster game.
I think he had twenty seven, nineteen and twelve. That
game six, y'all end up beating before he went to Miami.
Proud of that, I mean, but proud of you know,
you guys getting KG and Ray Allen. You know, it

(01:37):
was more he I think he beat you guys a
little bit more than you guys beat him. But when
he goes to Miami and that year, y'all got him,
and I remember KG said it's over y'all beat him.
Y'all beat him in game five in Miami, you're up
three to two. KG said it's over it. We ain't
coming back down here. And then Lebron in game six

(02:00):
that everybody says, that's the greatest game he's ever played.
Did you did you get a sense? I mean, how soon,
how early in the game did you know for we
we got, we got, we're in for it?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I know, I mean I started looking in his eyes,
you know, when he first stood on the floor, and
just his mentality to start the game, how aggressive he was,
and we were always scared and Doc was always scared
to like trapping double teaming, right because of his past,
and so he figured that, Like I figured, it's like
he's gonna get everybody's involved, and now everybody's gonna get going.

(02:32):
He's gonna get his anyway. But we didn't think he's
gonna get forty five, right, and like that game when
he's what he's able to do that game like that,
that's what really took him to the next level, Like
forty five, go to Miami, game seven, win Game seven,
and then you know, to move on, Like, but that
game was, Man, I still have night messes about that.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
What was was Miami heat Lebron? What that's the best
Lebron we've ever seen?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean, I think twenty eighteen Broun.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
The year we went to the finals when Kyrie was going.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Kyrie was gone the way the way he put in,
y'all go to Boston and that game seven and y'all
beat Toronto, y'all beat Toronto, y'all beat Indiana. Yeah, and
he had what like eight forty point games in the playoffs.
He had that fifty one against Golden State. Yeah, he
was just in Miami. He was extremely efficient efficient. Yeah,

(03:32):
you talked about somebody shooting fifty five fifty six perield.
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
He was super efficient in Miami. But I ain't get
a chance to watch it like I wanted to. You know,
of course, you can't see every game, but what he
did in Cleveland, you know, you get.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Him back, he comes back.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, that stretch he did have in Cleveland, I think
that was so.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You think you think the second the second, the return
to Cleveland might have been his best lebron Yeah, for sure,
I can't say I disagree.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, the year.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Sixteen, the sixteen seventeen season, we went back to the final,
we played against Katie for the first time.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like that season right there, I think was one of
the best seasons, like you said, they's ever had. And
then I can't remember who that playoffs was. The playoff
run he had that might have been the best playoff
run eighteen. That was eighteen. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, we had
a here. I think he had eight forty point games.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, and you guys end up y'all swept Toronto, who
was the number one seed at the time, and then
you go on the road in Game seven.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
And Boston gave all forty eight minutes.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, that period at fifteen and eighteen, I think that
might have been his best basketball ever played.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
People always you know, and you get this a lot,
and I'm sure you've heard it. He wouldn't have done
that if he played the nineties, he wouldn't have done that.
And he played in the eighties, he couldn't have played
back run. The dude got Karl Malone's body. He can
have on the ball like magic. He got Karl alone body.
He's more athletic, who's been that kind of athleticism that
can do all the things that he can do.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I mean, ask you, I mean I played in the nineties.
I wasn't so like I said, Lebron James can't play
in the nineties, Like come on, man, like.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
What we're talking about, Like it don't even makes sense.
Like if you're great, I don't care where are you playing,
You're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Great, right and it is what it is coaching the Clippers,
So you're not you're at the Clippers. You no, I
would have got this. I'm gonna talk about the h
the Cavaliers situation because when David Black, he gets you
were in line to get the job. You were supposed
to get the job.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Right, Yeah, we interviewed the same time for the job,
and my agent called me is like, you know, Dan
Gilbert decided that you wanted to go with you know,
David Black, But I got a crazy thing to tell you.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
They want you to be associate head coach.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
And I was like, no, Like I'm cool, Like, no,
I'm stay here with Doc because I figure like if
I'm a Doc, who's the best coach in the league.
Like I'm gonna at a job next year, I'm just coming,
you know. So I'm not gonna leave Doc. I'm gonna
be loyal to Doc. And he said, but you wouldn't
believe how much money offered you. And I was like,
well what they offered, say, want to offer your million
dollars a year to be the sociate head coach And
at the time, I'm making three seventy five with the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Dude, I don't think I think I could do that.
Well Noah, I still said no.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I said no. Yeah. I was like even in California.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I was like can you.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
And so I was like, man like, no, I ain't
doing i' gonna stay with Doc. It's like you sure like, yeah,
I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So he came back an hour later said they said
they give you one two, one four whatever whatever, And
I was like, nah, man, like I'm gonna stay with Doc.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
I ain't gonna do that, like I'm gonna be loyal
to Doc. So I called you know, b Shaw. I
was like b shaw. He said, what you man, you
gotta you you gotta take your job. I said, man,
I ain't doing it. And then so I called Jerry
West who was my mentor, And Jerry like, you know, could.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
You mother you?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
What are you thinking? If you don't take this job,
I'll never give you another job ever again. Think you
can't leave Doc's umbrella whatever other. So I was like, man,
I'm not doing it, and so he's like going crazy.
So my agent called back again. He said like, they said,
well what do you want? I said, well just tell
him two million, two two two whatever that He coming
back said they said yes, you're like yeah, I say yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
So I was like I got a good doc.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So I called Doc and Doc was like you know what,
time Like, it's gonna be hard for us to match that,
he said, but I think you're ready to like leave
my umbrella and like, you know, and do your own thing.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I think it'd be good for you. And I was
like you sure.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
He's like, man, I think it'd be really good for you.
So that's kind of how it happened. I ended up
going to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
So now, okay, you on the bench that first year,
y'all go to the NBA Finals, you lose to the
Golden State Warriors, and six halfway through the season, they
make a change. You get elevated. Now, being a head
coach is one thing. When you're the head coach and

(08:05):
now you're coaching the best player in the NBA, that's
something entirely different to Loo. Yeah, it is you and Lebron.
What type of relationship did you have with Lebron before
you became head coach?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
So I had a relationship with Lebron, Rich and Mad
Randy before I even came to be the assistant. Like
we always been cool and tight. So like we always
had that bond. And so when I became the social
head coach, like I said, he then he came back,
you know, so we already had that bond and so
which was cool, I said, I had Rich and Mad
behind me one hundred percent. Randy so even bron get

(08:37):
mad I had I had them behind me anyway, you know,
but that's kind of like, you know, like that's family,
Like that's this family. So you know, when I took over,
like I said, I was scared because you know, anybody
can say I would have did this, I would have
done that. You know, like especially on that social media,
you can say all that until you're in that number

(08:58):
one seat.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
And now you got it. Okay, what you do? You
say you go do that?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know, And.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
So moving over six inches, you know, it's tough, and
like especially midway through the season. Yes, And so I
just thought it was a lot of pressure, man, just
like we just went to the finals game six, we
lose no Kevin Love, no Kyrie, and now you want
to replaced coach Black who done a hell of a job.
And if we don't make it to the finals and

(09:23):
make it to least game seven, like I'm a failure,
you know. So that was it was scary and I
don't even know if I could do it, because like
you're coming through halfway through the season, you haven't really
had a training camp, you haven't implemented what.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
You want to rule you want to. You got to
stick to what and you got the best player in
the world, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
And so it was, it was it was tough, you know,
but like I said, I will give a lot of
credit you know, to k Love, Kyrie Braun Jr. Tristan
like those guys, like they said, listen, we got your
back one hundred percent. Like whatever you want to do,
let's do it. We got your back. And I said,
I'm gonna make some mistakes, Like you know what I'm saying.
I'm gonna make some mistake, but we all got to

(10:00):
stick together. And I get those guys credit like they
have him back one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
But the natural thing is like man, t lou undermine
David Black. He was just he was just you know,
he was supposed to be there any way, and he
probably was doing X, Y and Z. Did you did
you hear that.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
And that's why it was hard for me to want
to take that job, because I knew what it was
gonna look like from the outside looking in. And if
they knew the truth about it the year before, they
would never.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Say that, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And so my job as a social head coach is
do whatever I can to make it he coach the
job easier, you know. So I did that to the
best of my ability. And you know, I would never
undermine somebody for a job, you know, because that's that's
just not who I am.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
That's not my personality. And I believe it will come
back on you if you do things like that.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
So what was it about Coach Black with his message
just not resonating? What was it? Because he did go
to the NBA Finals, y'all did make it to a
Game six minus Kevin Love, minus Kyrie Leave. If you
have those guys who will never ever know, I believe
you win the series, but we'll never know. And then

(11:06):
halfway through the season, it wasn't like you'all was in
the sixth spot.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
T lewis number one spot?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Can it by the coach that's never been? I don't Well,
maybe I think Milwaukee did something similar a couple of
years ago with Adrian, But I'm just saying I don't
recall a situation of something like that happening. Was his
message just not getting through? Was it just falling on death?
There is somebody go upstairs? Why would you make the
number one? You're the number one seed. Can you change

(11:33):
the head coach after you just went to the finals?
You know?

Speaker 4 (11:37):
For me, I think he did a great job.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
And overseas, like when you coach overseas, you are the
face of the team, right, Like it's what you what
you say goes no matter what, no matter what players
there what, Like you're the face of the team. And
when you come to the NBA, the players are the
face of the team.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
And so.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's a different dynamic. And so just understand that dynamic
that you know, as much you want to go in
and go crazy and cut somebody out, you might can't
do it today, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
You know what I'm saying, You just can't.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
And like his offensive system like was great, like I was,
I could run it today, like all the stuff he did,
but like it didn't fit what Ron, Like Bron's not
gonna move like that. Kyrie want to dance. He ain't
running around.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Kevin Love is not a.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Mover, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
And so it was just the offense they ran over
there was different when it came over here. Now you've
been successful over there, winning all the championships, and he's
a great coach. And I thought it was great stuff
we were doing, but it just didn't fit our team
and what we're trying to do, you know, And so
I think guys got frustrated with the process and got
frustrated with, you know, how how we did things like

(12:41):
offensively and defensively because some of the stuff was different.
But there's nothing wrong with change if it works, and
it was working, but it just, you know, I think
a lot of people got frustrated and didn't take the
time have the patience to really get kind of wait
for it. And that's kind of like or things got
you know, got got harder, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
So that was it.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Do you remember your first game getting booed? Who y'all first?
Do you remember who y'all played? First? Play the Bulls?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Bulls and we was at we played them in in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Y'all lost, and.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I don't even remember.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
The man.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Y'alln't remember.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean, like I said, I got tough skins, Like
if I mess up, I messed up, like I deserved
to get booed.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I deserve to get cred. Y'all lost ninety six to
eighty three.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Okay, but.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean, do you understand what you did? They fired
the coach mid season, you get that team. Not only
did you get them to the NBA Finals, you orchestrated
the greatest comeback in finals history. Down three to one
to a guy that was he was the first guy
to be a unanimous MVP, and two of the last
three games were on the road. How do you lie

(13:56):
to them? You gotta lie that coach tell us all
the time sometimes that got a lot. How do you
lie to him but tell him they really got a
chance to win this.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know what's crazy is that I really, I swear
to God, thought that we can win. Like even we
were down three to one, I thought that we.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Could what you had just lost? You it just went
down three to one at your home court, d Loup.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
But I'm saying we lost the two first the two
games we lost first we got blown out. Yeah, we
win game three, Yes, we should have won Game four.
We treated it off the last two minutes of the game, right,
So we go down three to one, and I'm like,
we still have opportunity to win this, Like we still
can win. I really believed it. But we had to
make some tweaks and we made some adjustments, and like
I said, I give our guys credit for doing that.

(14:37):
But what's funny like getting to that point, every time
we lost the game, I never showed film and so
David Griffin would go back to our video guy.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
DV was like, man, what the hell is he doing?
Like why he said, listen, just trust me, you know
what he's doing, Like, just trust him. If he's doing it,
I believe in it.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So like because after game one or even in the
finals before, like we show film and like they was
blowing us out, like it was like you don't want mentally,
you don't want that.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
You know, you don't want to beat the exactly, so
you don't want the guys seeing that.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
So we're comeing have a fun day shoot and have
court shots, tweaks, some stuff here and there, and when
we win, that's when we be in long film setsions
of all the stuff we've met. We were making mistakes
on and like what we got to clean up to
be better. And it worked because you don't want to
psy your guys out thinking like like how can we
beat them? You know, And so every time we lost,
I never showed film. We won, I showed all the
stuff we need to get better at, and we just

(15:30):
had to make some tweaks defensively, and we made those tweaks,
Like as I give j R. Shump and all those
guys credit for what we was able to do to
change our strategy, because if you play Golden State the
way they play their pace and how fast they play,
you don't know until you're in it.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
You can't go to practice and work on that. Can't
do it, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And so I saw that when you playing where you
switching everything, they're gonna pick you apart, like Draymond with
his passing, Stephan Clay with their movement, like you just
can't switch everything. And so after game four, I was like, listen,
when Stephan Clay come together, splits and all that, we're
switching it. Anybody else, you stay locked in so it

(16:10):
won't be no confusion. We make a mistake, we're gonna
make a mistake on you know, the other guys. We
ain't gonna make a.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Mistake on these guys, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
And so it worked like Jayon Srump locked in and
Stephan Clay like if you go on an eagle dollar
living stone and you're pushing up, you're just protecting, And
like it changed the whole series, Like it changed and
then the performance that Bron and Kyrie had in gat
game six, No game five, Yeah, and wait in the
game five and like going home for game six, like

(16:37):
I thought, we warm down and then game seven. You
got the best player in the world going into game seven.
You gotta love your chance. So that's you know, kind
of what happened.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Was it ever a situation that you had, like because
it's hard because you got a Lebron Man or or
any great player to like, Bro, I need more from you.
You gotta give me more.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, halftime in game seven. You halftime in game seven,
we come in the locker room and like this, we're
gonna show a films. An ain't no film Like, so
I came and said, Bron, what you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Man? What you mean? So you gotta do more? Like
you gotta be better?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Like what you want me to do?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
T Lou, I'm like, because he had twenty points and
my dad seven says, but he left a lot on
the table to me, And this is game seven.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
You're the best player in the world. I was like,
we need what you want me.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I said, you gotta guard Dramond, better score the basketball,
stop turnover, be aggressive, anything else. You want me to say,
so he madded him up right, So I go in
the off I slam the door. So later after we
you know, it was over, Damon Jones said, Bron came
to him like.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Man, can you believe T.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Lou Man? Call me all like that, that's some boy
whatever whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
D Jon said, well, I ain't be here all year,
but everything I read and you called and told me
you trust him?

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Why not trust him?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Now?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
He's like, if you you know, you go to James Jones, James,
can you bled T lou Man? I can't believe Jane Johnson?

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Did he lie? So then Bron snatched his step out
of the locker, storm out. That's all she wrote. I
mean Jr. People do understand JR scored the first yes,
seven points did and then after that it was down seven.
So Jr.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Scored seventh straight and then after that, man, Bron, what
he did after that was it was it was all
she wrote.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
The chase down and then Kyrie's three point shot. I
don't know because that you guys had gone like three
minutes to lou and nobody could score. It was like
somebody put a lid on the bathroom. Everybody was breaking
air balling. You can feel that it was tightening. Everybody felt.
I don't care what anybody says. Everybody felt it. Do

(18:42):
you feel that if ig Dollar had laid that ball
up that was going to be the momentum that they
needed to win the game, or you felt you guys
even if they had broke the score because you guys
scored first.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, I mean no, they scored first.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
The guy.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
He blocked that, yeah, and dance right, And so we
called time out and the thing about bron was exhausted,
and so we get to the bench. I mean, he's like,
he's done. So I'm like, you know, it's time.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Of dance, you know what I'm saying. So we want
to run pick and roll, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Because Clay was a great defender and like said Steph,
you know towards that now, defensive wise, like he took
a huge step and take pride in garden, you know now.
And so they had no weak links. You didn't want Dramond,
you didn't want Ego Dollar, you didn't want Clay. So
I was like, but we got to try to get
step in action, you know. So you know, we run
a pick and roll. You know, Kyrie gets to switch.

(19:40):
I ain't gonna shore three, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
And so but that's that's that's the shot side stept.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
So he gets to that right wing he said, dancing
and he shoots it, and like, man, like from that
point on, I was just blacked out, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Like, once he made that shot, I like blacked out,
Like I remember kay.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Love like.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Guard step yeah, guarded Steph. And I remember it was
at the end of the game we were up three
four Yeah, bron gets fouled. We up four and they
and it was two things that we worked on. They
ran two kneed three plays for shots, and so the
whole series before we got to the series leading up

(20:22):
to it and the series, I was like, listen, we're
gonna work on these atos, but on their kneed three plays,
guys are gonna be in different positions. So every day
we worked on their need three plays. I said, it's
gonna come a time we're gonna need it. So like
Kyrie and man, are we doing this again? Like because
all the games will blowout. It wasn't no close games
till Game seven, right, and so we never had to
use it. And so we worked on it every day.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
On this play, Kyrie, you guard this guy, Tristan, you
guarding this guy Bron you here on this play when
they do it, now you guarding over here.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like, So we had guys in different spots. So when
Draymond goes to take the ball out of bounds, you
see it. He's like, man, what the because the matches
was crazy, but we knew how we wanted to switch right.
We got a deflection, so the ball goes out of bounds.
So they called the second play. They run at O
wise for knee three and guys go to different matchups,
and Dymond was like, man, what the Like it messed
them toe. So then we win the game.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
So that next day like see, that's why we work
He said, man, you was right, And we worked on
it for set like eight days before the series started,
and then every every day we worked on a knee
three and they talked trash to me, Man, we ain't
gonna never use this, it's stupid, And then end of
the game we needed it.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
How are you able to earn the players trust in
Cleveland so quickly?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I would say, being around of players I coach and
play with, I think that's one. I think winning I
think with something, and then I think just having a
relationship with braun like. I think having a relationship with
Bron really just hit the tone for everybody else. And
I had a relationship with Jr. You know when they
first came in the league. You know, he used to
come and work out us with us in Vegas, and

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so I knew Jr. But the other guys I didn't know,
like you said, But having brons respect and having the
friendship le Bron, that really helped me earn the respect
to everybody else in the locker room.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You're the first NBA You're the first coach in the
NBA history that when it first post ten postseason game,
you know that. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be broken.
Somebody almost broken recently. They did almost were You're good.
They got to start over again.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Somebody almost broke it first year. I can't remember what
it was. Was it, Let's see, was it Missoula? Did
they go it's yeah, you might be right. Yeah, I
think he broken. The guy closer tired us.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I mean, it was right there. I know I know
that happened.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I read the story that you're uh, is this true
about the money that you put up in the ceiland
or you made that up?

Speaker 4 (22:44):
True?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You knew that you knew after winning Game five that
you guys were coming back for game seven because you
didn't feel there was no way they could beat you
in game six in your building.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
I didn't think so.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
And so after game five, our owners and you know,
front office, they are in the locker room. Everybody's going crazy,
we hype whatever. So I walk in the locker room.
I said, all right, everybody give me two hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
It's like what it was like.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Everybody give me two hundred dollars. I'm gonna put it
in the ceiling and we're coming back to game seven
and get our money. And said, oh yeah, they going crazy.
So everybody gives two hundred, two hundred, the owner, Dan, Gilbert,
Nate four, they all give money, put it up in
the ceiling. But I got it from Doc because Doc
did it. We played the Lakers in La Christmas Day

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and they blew us out, and Doc said, listen, y'all
remember this, remember how it feels. Because we're gonna play
them in the NBA Finals and we come back to
get our money and we put it hid in the attic,
I mean in the ceiling.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Came back and it was there, and Doc passed the
money out. The only difference with me, I kept, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Tell you how crazy Bron is, how tight he is.
So we win the championship.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
We just won.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Man, they in the block, they spread champagne Bron, Man,
what a two hundred?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Like?

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Come on, man, we just want to you won about two.
I said, Man, I think this ball boy stolen, not
no more.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
So I kept that I deserved it. I deserved it, man,
Bron two hundred, he wanted it. I wasn't giving it back.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
They've been whispers about Lebron possibly returning to Cleveland. Do
you think he's going to return to Cleveland? Before you
answered that, are you surprised? This is the first time
in Lebron's career Lebron James is on the expiring contract.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
I'm surprised about that. I mean, I mean, look, this
is a player that like.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
He's, he gave you twenty four, eight and seven last year,
and he's.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Changed the game like he's. He's made it to where
these guys were able to go to whatever teams they
want to go. Yes, and like you said, build, build
their careers and do like he was the one that
first step, yes, you know, and so he took all
the heat, all the heat, you know, to get to
this point where now you see everybody's doing it, you know,
and he paved that way.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yet, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
So I think if he's on an expiring contract, I
think it's something he wants. I don't think that, you know,
like the Laker said, we really gonna give you your
finish this year out and that's it. I think that
if he's on a one year contract, that's where he
wants to be going back to Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
I don't know, Yeah, Like, can you see it?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't. I don't. I mean, I don't. I don't know.
You went to LA. You've done everything you can do
in Cleveland, right, I think you finish it up in LA.
I don't know how much longer, how much longer they
want him in LA. But I think the thing else
he finishes up in LA. I don't think he's done
after this year. No, I don't think he's done. I don't.
And the thing is t I was telling I was

(25:48):
talking to somebody else to day, I said, if you
play twenty four, you might as well go and get
that twenty five.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, he's not done this year for sure, but.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I think he wants to sit in that record there.
He wants to sit in that record. There ain't nobody
gonna get it. They can't catch it because KD. He
thinks KD is the closest. But KD is ten thousand
points away. That's ten thousand so if you average, that's
another seven eight years, that's right now. Yeah, Lebron plays

(26:14):
another two three years. I think's gonna be a forty
five thousand point.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
I mean, it's gonna be hard to catch that because.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
You have to play a lot, you have to play,
you have to have sustained greatness. Well because nobody thought
Kareem and hell they're healthy, and hell because nobody thought Kareem,
the record would be broken because first of all, only
Biggs played that long exactly. And then you could play
that long if you're big, because I guess what, you
go down to the block, they dumb it down, tell
you you ain't try to get up and down the court.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Like an eight nine ten points.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. When you get that old,
it's a big Yeah. Like the are great bigs when
they played, you know, past their prime. Yeah, they have
eight nine ten points. Bron happened twenty five.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
So, I mean, I think he's gonna put it out
of reach where it's gonna be hard to it's gonna
be hard to get there.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
But he was working at the court. I saw that.
You know, he post the video. He's working at the
clip of facilities.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, no, I see now, yeah, I saw that. What
that means, I didn't know if I can speak on nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
You gave him the key.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, he's working out at the old practical facility. Yeah,
the one that we had implying, So yeah, put that
out there. The one applier he went at facility. You
know what I'm saying. I can't say nothing about that.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Had Lebron and Kyrie stayed together, they won another championship.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. And I think I also think
if KD doesn't go to Golden State, but they.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Had to get him. They had to get him. They
were never gonna beat you guys to gain.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
T Yeah, if KD doesn't go to Golden State, I
think we win three in a row, and I think
Kyrie stayed because you can't leave after that, right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
And so I think he stays. And I think, like
I said, we could, we had a chance to win
two or three.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Is there anything you could have done differently to maybe
keep Kyrie and Lebron together? Or has Kyrie made his
mind up that he wanted to go elsewhere?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
He had made his mind up. But that's like another
Kobe and shacksage. I would never let it happen, right like,
and I begged complete it. I begged complete it, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Coche Lebron said, he begged please say hey, don't trade him.
He still got a year on his contract, don't trade him.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Bron was doing an autograph signing with jerseys and stuff
for his foundation. So I come sit next to Bron.
We're sitting there handling the phone Sports Center. Kyrie Everans
just been traded to the Boston Celtics man. Bron dropped
the marker drop and just lays back in his chair
for about ten minutes, doesn't say a word, like just
pissed off. And Bron was crushed. And I saw when

(28:49):
that happened. I thought things would like I thought Bron
would would do something different, you know, sooner or later, and.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
That's what he did.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
So you don't you believe Lebron would have stayed in
Cleveland had Kyrie staateing us?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Damn. I mean you've seen breakups. You were there, I
mean you you weren't there at the time, but cobD
and Shack, you saw Blake and CP three, you saw
Lebron and Kyrie. If somebody would have told you in

(29:25):
the beginning how well it was working, that this was
going to be the ultimate outcome, would you have believed it?
As far as what them them partying ways, all those guys, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
No, no, I mean I couldn't see it, you know,
the way it happened, you know, especially like said Covid
Shack being in it every single day in the locker room,
like because it had too many great guys around them,
like you had a lot of great buffers, you know,
like Rick Fox, Robert Already, b Shaw, Harp, like they
were old enough to like understand likes what was the

(29:58):
stake and understand.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Like something special, Yeah, something.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Special, And so they would never let it come to
where it came to, you know, So that was tough.
And then you know, I think Kyrie his biggest thing
is like because he's a competitor. Yeah, he's a killer,
and so he wanted to show kind of like Kobe
did you know, that's his mentor Yeah, I want I
could win, you know, without Broun and for me to
take that next step, this is what I gotta do.

(30:22):
And so to have his own team and to do
that like that was his That was his goal, and
that's what he wanted to do. So I don't think
it was nothing though ill will against Brown. It was
just something he wanted to do for his career.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
KD. He starts outing and OKC goes to Golden State,
wins two or three, goes to Brooklyn Leeds, Brooklyn goes
to Phoenix. Now he's in Houston. How different are we
looking at KD if he doesn't go to the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
As far as if you want or not, Yeah, I
mean I think the only difference would be if you
want an OKC, and which they could have. They could
have easily done that too, you know, So I mean
I wouldn't look at him different.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
You know, I think a lot of great players like
they think, you know, you have to win a championship,
to be you know, to be on this tier.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, it's it's the media. We've done that because we
say you're bump. We say you're not any good. We
don't say your bump, but we say you're not any good.
Or they put who's the greatest NBA player that's never
won a championship? So rings are everything. Now we'll take
a guy that's averaging ten points and put him above
somebody that's historically great because he has a ring.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And Katy's one of the best players of all time
all time. Yeah, So like it's just it's just, you know,
everybody doesn't win, you know, so.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
And they shouldn't exactly. No, No, what's the what's the
value of it? What's the value of a championship if
every great player won it?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
But you know, he goes to Golden State and went,
oh where he went to Golden State? But what you
ain't gonna do if he don't win, you're gonna say
he didn't criticize it. Goes and wins, it's criticized as well.
It's just not fair, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
And so.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I mean, what else can you say?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
He's a bad he's a bad dude, whether he won
a championship or not won a championship or whatever, Like,
he's one of the best greatest players to play this game.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And so what did you guys need when he goes
to the war if he when he goes to the Warriors,
what did Cleveland need to combat that? Because I don't believe.
I don't believe with IKD. I believe with IKD they're
not gonna beat you again. Yeah, after you beat them
at twenty sixteen, coming back from three to one, I

(32:43):
don't believe they can beat you again.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I think we had the blueprint on how to beat them.
Like Steve kerris a masterminds, so he probably figure something out.
But I thought we had the blueprint. But for us,
probably I would say, like a dominant center, like a.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Guy you can throw the ball to up and down
to him and punish inside.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, so Draymond's not helping all over the place. And
because Trician was a you know, a really good player,
but like offensively being able just to throw the ball,
post the basketball and and make plays because k Love
played more of the force, right, But I think a
bigger center that can you know, can protect the rim
could be dominant on the block. I think that would
have helped us out a lot. But it was just
when they got KD.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Like you.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
With Steph Draymond's the best pocket, catch the ball in
the pocket. And now you got Clay instead, I mean
Clay and KD sitting in the court like I mean,
I mean eagle Dollard.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
For the lob. Clay in his corner, KD in his corner,
like what you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
And you still you still worried about step Yeah, like
it just it was unfair that last year you guys
had d Rolls, you guys had uh d Wade and
it just didn't. It just didn't. It wasn't working. It
wasn't working. Why wasn't it working?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I think d Wade and let's said d ro you know,
coming down towards the end of they could but de
Rosie not playing a lot longer than he thought he
was gonna play. But you have, like I said, great players.
You know, d Rose one of my favorite players like
to play the game. And then d Wade you know
as well. And then were they being able to do
with other teams and then comes to Cleveland Lebron, I

(34:18):
think like Bron gave him the leeway to do whatever
they want. But I just think just trying to figure
it out playing with each other, the spacing, the shooting,
you know, all those components play the factor and it
just wasn't a good fit. Like it wasn't they could
still play, it just wasn't a good fit, you know,
basketball wise, And that's just kind of like how it
didn't work. And but if I had a little bit

(34:39):
more time, I would have been able to figure it out,
you know. But it's just like it just didn't fit
the style that we wanted to play or had the
player need to play.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
It just didn't fit.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Adam Silver says he's changing the All Star Game. It's
becoming watcha with tlu. It ain't number threes, it ain't
number threes and dunks. And that ain't way man, nobody
bro I grew up on the All Star Game they played.
I ain't saying you gotta play it like it's a
Game seven. I ain't saying you got to play it
like a playoff game. But this is unacceptable. So they've
changed the format. Uh, it's the US worst of the world,

(35:13):
is it. Yeah, So your kitch. Luca Jannis embiid Shaye
gonna be Steph Katie lebron book. Yeah, and what's the
if they win? Then what na we want to We
want to see some action. We don't want to see

(35:34):
the man we always had a two hundred somebody almost
scored two hundred points in the All Star Game.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
You know what I'm saying. But it's like in baseball,
if you win, like you know.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, that's what you should diad. We should have go
back to the East West and the winning side get
home court banded. No matter what the record is, whoever
wins the All Star Game gets the home courterbanded. Then
you'll start playing because this, come on joking shooting seventy threes.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I mean, I don't know, man, I don't whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
However, Adams was gonna fix it.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's gonna be great because, like I said, he he
makes sure he doesn't you know, he does a great job.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
So I believe in him.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's been a while since we had an American boy
MVP T Lou It's been a minute. I mean, Yoki's
got three, Giannis has got two, and Be's got one.
Now we got shape, maybe not as a hole a hole,
but are is the world catching up with us as
far as basketball, like, not overall, because each player is

(36:34):
from a different it's from a different country. Yeah, but
they are getting better.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, they're getting better.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I mean, you know it ain't a four gonna concluding
twenty eight. Now, you do realize that, right because thank
but what it took T Lou. It took herculean effort.
T Lou. Now, T Lou, I mean it took.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Took the basketball still comes through here, T Lou.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
It took Lebron, it took KD, and it took steph.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Okay, that's why we the best.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
They're not gonna be there at twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
How many Amy Peace Brown got both? I mean KD
got one, Step two.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
You try to have you try to have them around
for twenty and for twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Now I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like that's why
we the best players in the world. I mean they
have like Joker like they have great players too. What
I'm saying is they're not gonna be able to catch
us because it's one or two guys in each country, right,
like we were one place, right and we have all
the talent, we have all the skill, we have all
the athleticism.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
But I said they are. They are really good.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I mean they're great because they're playing. Because the thing
is TLU is that the Germans they've been playing together
their whole life, right, the Slovenians, the Serbians, the Lithuanians, Australians,
they've connect they've been playing together ten years old.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yes, yeah, we come.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Together for two weeks, come to Thaga for two week practice,
then we go to somebody to do play like three
exhibitions and then they go play.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Right now, I do think weinby oh Wemby, I think,
but I don't know, man, I just yeah, we No,
we're the greatest.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
You got We got this at twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yes, okay, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I'm gonna check out the game now.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
If you can rewind the tape in three years and say,
you know what, but Noah, we know we're gonna win.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
You were on the staff at the Clippers when Shaye
was there. No, you were there. I was in.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
When Shae got there.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I was he was still in clipping Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, I was in Cleveland. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Doc said he pleaded with them, says, look, this guy
gonna be special. Don't trade him. But to appease Kawhi.
You had to because Kawhi is like, I ain't got time.
I need somebody that's proven. PG was proven, he's been
an all NBA player, can play both ends of the court.
But watching him, I mean watching Shae, did you know

(39:03):
Shane was gonna be this?

Speaker 4 (39:05):
No? No, I didn't, And we talked about it all
the time, and.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
You know, thirty gms or presidents or whatever, even like
like if it would have been done all over again,
I mean I'd have done the trade too, yes, Like
PG was second in NBP vote, Yes, like two way player,
Like it was like Jordan Pippen, you know what I'm saying,
and Shane like said he was a really good, you know,
young player, but you know he's gonna be this, right,
you know.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
And I think it was the best thing for Shae
because Shane was stayed with the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
He wouldn't be Yeah, he wouldn't have been exactly, and
so he was able to grow and figured out.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Have his own team.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yes, And like I mean anything hindside twenty twenty, you
can say, oh, I would have never done that, but
who wouldn't have traded, you know, a first year player
for a guy like PG, you know, to team up
with Kawhi, like anybody would have done that. They lied,
they said they wouldn't have you know, so now shave
with Shane now, like, yeah, don't you don't. It's not
it's not a question. But that was that was ann

(40:01):
than me.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Did you try did you try to get did you
guys try to trade for Paul George when you was
in Cleveland? Yeah, when he was in Indiana and and
why didn't happen?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I don't remember?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, we try to get.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Him, PG, Lebron and Kyrie. Then I see that might
have been enough. That might have been enough to to
come back. Yeah yeah, yeah, because you because now you
can throw Lebron. I mean obviously you let PG start
with him, and then you can have Lebron. But you
still got guys. Now you got three guys that can
really score the basketball. Yeah, Lebron, Kyrie and and uh PG.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Yeah. Yeah, so that about man, we tried, Damn.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
You you gotta answer me this. This is what I
want to know, the bubblem, because this is what I got.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
The Clippers didn't even want to be there, Okay, they
wanted to be there when they got the three one lead.
There was they law, they didn't want to be that.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
I'm like, am I am? I wrong? Uh So?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
And so tell er explain to the people that was
in the bubble, because I see a lot of people
that didn't win try to undermine it. I think, who's
that that says something the other day about it? Jim?
Was it David Griffin? No, the one that the one
at Philly Maury. Yeah, Daryl Murray, Darryl Murray. Now he

(41:29):
almost blew the whole thing up talking about what he
was talking about and that he want to talk about
the championship don't mean nothing. Now, had he won it,
I guarantee you he and been talking about that.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I'll take it. Give it to me, I'll take it. So, how.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
With the team that you guys had, did you lose
a three to one lead? And you guys had double
digit leads in every game?

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Man?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Jamal Murray and and and Joker like they took it
to another level? Yeah, you know, they took it to
another level and they they played great.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
I mean, I mean, like I said, you if you
build a sixteen fifteen sixty point lead, like you was
doing something right right, you know?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
And so.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
It just they played better than we did, you know,
coming down the stretch, you know, and so if you
get hired at the right time, like you said, it's tough,
and so being up three to one and have an
opportunity to close him out, and we would have done that.
I think we could have won. We could have won
the bubble, We could have won. Yeah, out of ticket,
Doc would have took it.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
What you mean, Yeah, we took it. But after that.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Doc ends up getting fired. He and PG have a
back and forth. PG said, well, I'm not playing the
kind of basketball that I want to play running you know.
Maybe he said I think he wanted to run pandine
and Docs had him running players. So whatever the case may,
you know, whatever the case may be, I've really never
heard you say anything about you know, obviously, players move on,

(43:06):
and you understand that, having played in this game, having
coached in this game, that players are gonna move on.
And sometimes we might have never get out. But we
don't see eye eye. Me and the player don't see
eye to eye. Is there ever a scenario where you
feel you would players said something that you would counter that,
or you just let it walk.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
I let it walk. I mean that's just something that's egregious.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Or is you a testing my man? You're like you
want to scrap. We can know I ain't running from that,
I like, but yeah, I ain't running from that. But like,
you know, players are gonna be upset, they're gonna, you know,
they're gonna say what they're gonna say. But I think
if you're the leader and your coach, like you gotta
take the higher role, right, you know, I do believe
in that, and so you know, to me, like, I'm
a only gonna take the blame whether I'm wrong or

(43:51):
not right.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
So if you're the leader at any corporation or any profession,
like if you the leader of the team, like you
should take the responsibility and you should take the blame
even though you know one hundred percent it wasn't but
my job to take the pressure off you guys, so
you're not getting you know, crucified. And and so that's
just how I feel it should be, you know. And
so I wouldn't go back and forth with a player,

(44:13):
you know, I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
The Lakers had a vacancy, you was in the running.
I think Lebron called you a couple of times wanted
you to take the job. Why didn't you take the job?
I mean you played for the Lake. I mean I
think it's always a good story when when when a
guy can go back and coach the team that he
played for.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I would have loved it. I mean have been a
dream coming true. Yeah, why do you take the job?

Speaker 3 (44:42):
One?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
They offered me short years. They offered me three years,
and I wanted to do five. I guess they were
trying to tie me to Lebron.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Two.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
The money was low, and no, no, no, don't don't
they know the cause of living in l A.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Well, I'm saying it wasn't load, like for me personally
the money, it was load for the head coach and
for what it meant to everybody else going forward. It's
kind of like, you know, the Players Association, if you
take a bad deal, they're gonna give us all bad deals, right,
And so I just felt for me being a championship
coach and being black, you know, I thought it was

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up to me to make sure I set the standard.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
If I take a bad deal, then what's everybody else
gonna get?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
You know, A worst deal?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, a worst. So I just thought it was up
to me, you know, to make sure I did that.
And then for me and I it's hard because you know,
loyalty is tough. But then I couldn't pick my coaching staff.
You know, well they won't let me pick my coaching staff.
So they was gonna pick my coaching staff for me.
And so I had to leave a lot of guys behind.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
What what what what? What? What? What?

Speaker 3 (45:51):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
What do you mean pick your coaching staff?

Speaker 4 (45:54):
They wanted to pick my staff for me.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
So another word, instead of saying I want to hire
you know John Drew or this guy, that guy, They're like, no,
you got you got him him and him, Yeah, but
you don't know them like that.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I knew some of the guys. I mean, it wasn't
it wasn't a thing why the didn't like the guys
they wanted me to hire. My thing was just leaving
guys behind. Like so if I'm fired, my guys are
out of work, then you know, I get a job
and just say I'll forget them and to leave them behind,
like we want to championship together, went the four straight
finals together, like you know what I'm saying. And so
without what we've done we showed is it worked, you know,

(46:32):
and so I just felt that that wasn't that wasn't
something that I wanted to do. And so those three
things kind of you know, knipped in the bud and
you know, we went. I mean, it wasn't no bad blood, like,
it's just it was what it was. It wasn't And
then you know, Manti Williams saved the world, you know
what I'm saying, getting that big deal. And then because

(46:54):
we had coaches and meetings in Chicago just talking about
you know, it's gonna be hard to fire co is
if we're making more money, right, you know, and so
they don't really respect us as leader as an organization,
like we're running a billion dollar organization. You know, they
don't really respect us like we're getting three four million.
I messed a lot of mon but I'm just saying,
like in the coaching world, they can just let you go.

(47:14):
They paying you know, something's paying three four or five coaches,
you know, like Manni Williamsy.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
So I told Steve Kerr, I told Phoenix, Uh, I.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Told Doc, I told Spoe like because this is like,
you know, for your y'all, y'all, the face of the
league far as coaches like y'all got to get the
money up, like you know what I'm saying, right, And
they're like, well, you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
So two years later, MANI goes and gets get detroyed.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, and then he gets the bag, then Spoe, then
Steve Kerr, then Pop and then me. You know what
I'm saying. Then now everything's going up, you know. And
so and I think it's fair. I think, you know,
when you you have a coach and there's fifteen players
and you like the four thirteen fourteen high paid player,

(48:00):
I mean, I mean out of the players and the
coaches like that, Ain't that ain't fair? Like, you know,
And so I thought he did a really good job
of just, you know, showing appreciation for coaches and you know,
because it's a hard it's a hard job.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I've always wanted to ask you this, why do you, like,
I look at you. You give John Wallace an opportunity,
You give Russ an opportunity, You give Ben Simmons an opportunity.
What what is it about that? Why do you why
do you? Why do you? Why do you do that?
Give guys an opportunity? Because you know, Ben, for whatever reason,
seemed like he lost his confidence. And we'll touch on

(48:36):
this a little later. John Wall had a situation, he
went through some stuff with his mom and had some
tough injuries. Russ, Uh, why why do you do that?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Because I played and I understand, and so you know
a lot of times you just need, you know, a
coach that can give you confidence and get you back
to you know, where you want to get to, you know.
And so I've been a player when you know the
times almost up, you know, like the clock is running out,
and you know, you never want to see those guys
go out like that. And having a relationship with those

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guys right and giving them opportunity.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
I will always do that.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
And so you know a lot of guys have career
years playing under me because like I said, I give
them confidence or guys they didn't want to play the
game no more, like Reggie Jackson and Nick Batoon and
then they're playing six seven, eight more years, you know,
when they was ready to retire, you know. And so
it's important to be able to give back, you know,
to our guys, and in any way I can, and
so I really enjoy that.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
What happened with Ben Simmons. You talk about a guy
that was Rookie of the Year, he was an All
NBA player, he was a perennial All Star, and then
all of a sudden, it just didn't click. It's something
something happened me. I traced it back to that Atlanta
game where he had a layup. I mean, he had
a looked like a dunk and he passed it, and

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his coach was critical, the best player was critical, and
I remember I was on the undisputed was kipt. I said,
it's so over. I said, he's never gonna be the same.
And he said, why you say that, I say, because
the head coach said what he said, and his best
player said what he said. I said, he broke his confidence.
I said, and that city and then you know, you
see the meme with this has been similar than us

(50:14):
a trash can going down the street because the city
is flooding. They fok is confident and he hadn't be.
He hasn't been the same player since. Now. I know
he's had some injuries, But how how do you when
a guy he's the first overall pick, he's Rookie of
the Year, he's perennial, a perennial All Star. How does

(50:35):
confidence confidence is that big of a thing in basketball,
t Lou.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Confidence is everything in life, whatever you do, you know,
and I come from one of the most confident places
in the world Mexicans Earth Listen, I'm telling you you
would think everybody that is Michael Jordan. I'm saying everybody,
you know what, it doesn't matter, like you know, from
all my God dam into Jay Rold to Conrad, the Stacey,
the filth, like everybody think they think they're it, you know.

(51:01):
So having that confidence plays a big factor in everything
you do. For me, I think I equated to just that,
you know, that play whatever. I don't think that changed.
I think the injuries really set him back, having two
back surgeries, you know. Then we acquired him this year,
seeing with his knee, you know, seeing like how his
knee was, you know, all things he had to fight
through to be able to get on the floor. I

(51:22):
think played a big role. I think you saw in
Brooklyn last year like he was, he was, he was good,
he was back to being you know who he is.
And the thing didn't work with us, you know last year,
which I'm pissed off of myself about, is that.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
He needs a ball in his hands. And so does James.
And then SOA's cool, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
So it was hard, you know, And it was hard exactly, Yeah,
and you should want him to because the way he plays,
the way he passes his pace, the way he plays
the game, and how he can make people better, you
don't want him off the ball, you know. So it
was just a tough dynamic and I take full responsibes,
be like, I didn't figure it out the way I
needed to, So he really didn't have a fair shake.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
So I'm I'm still pissed about that. What's it like?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Russ? No matter what you think about him, he has
the most career triple doubles. He's to every triple double.
I think what three seasons he ain't gonna teach you?
You know exactly what you're gonna get, Russell Westbrook A.
You're gonna get an outstanding play, you're gonna get a turnover,
you're gonna get an airball, you're gonna get a big three.
But he gonna give you everything he has and you

(52:29):
can appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Every single night, every single practice, every single day. And
the thing that.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Which you know I equate him with with Lebron, Like
when you have great players like that. Yeah, always on time,
early to the bus, early to the meetings, never late,
like you know that that means a lot, you know,
that should show just respect for your teammates, with the
staff and for you know who you're working with. And
every day he's gonna bring it no matter what. Practice.

(53:00):
Like I said, games shoot around. You know what you're
gonna get every single day, and you can respect that.
So that's why so many people love Russ because you
know every single day you're gonna get this and you
can't ask for anything anything more.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
What's it like being a coach for Steve Barmer? You
see him there. I've never seen an owner that has
more emotion watching the game. I mean he is a
true fan because he goes through the gamut of emotions
just like I'm like, bro, you do realize you got
like one hundred big and you're supposed to be just
sitting there just like stow it and he hey, every

(53:38):
shot turnover. I mean you could tell.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
I'm like, man, he's fully invested and one thigh. You know,
people just see the.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Games and like how the game and you know his
actions and reactions or whatever. But what I've learned from
him is, Shannon, is that no matter how much money
you have or how rich you are, you know you
could be a good person.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yes, And that's what he is.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Like to treat people the way he treats him like
is like if you got a guy who's worth one
hundred and fifty billion, and to treat everybody like, I mean,
everything's so personable, everything is like genuine. You know, he's
not faking, he's not He doesn't have to, right, he
doesn't need anybody right. But just see how he treats
people like it just goes to show like and that's

(54:24):
why I try to be good. Everybody don't know that
you come across because you know, you never know. And
I'm just seeing how Steve Bomber did for me in Mexico,
what he's done for this organization, what he's done for
the city of la what he's done for the city
of Seattle. Like he's just a genuine person. That's a
great person. And you know, you don't see you don't
see too many better human beings than he is.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh oh, he went back to you to Mexico, Missouri
with you on the private yet and stay of the
best Western.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Best Western, instead of some of the best sleep he's
had a long time. So I say, you know what,
if he can come and stay anybody, I don't want
to hear nothing from no abody. Anybody can come and
stay in Mexico. If mister Obama can come and stay
in Mexico, only where five other people can say they can't.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Outside of that, everybody should come.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah. Who's your favorite player to watch in the NBA
right now today?

Speaker 4 (55:11):
I have a few? I love Aunt man, m h.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
I love Tatum just from guys that are not on
my team. You just said love Steph. You know still
what he brings whom I'm missing, fellove, Oh, Kyrie, Yeah, dancing,
I mean, just so many great pleasures. It's hard to

(55:37):
like remember, but like, yeah, Kyrie loves see him dance.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I love ant Man the stuff talking and I think
and I love you know watching You know Tatum play.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
You But Tatum is a cousin of yours? Correct, y'all
play real cousin play play cousin cousins, Okay, cause you
know uptime you know we are two girls to play. Yeah, man,
you but you know, but you know I could we
are well cave called somebody and we be closer caying
to a German shepherd than the actual person.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah, what you gotta help me understand where all this
hate for JT come from? What? Hey, man, they be
killing j T man heady dude is And I want
to ask you, because you were there, how that man
a three time all the NBA selection. They can't get
but two minutes a game in the Olympics. Two minutes
a game, yeah, okay for five No, they.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Played more than that.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Tu. You gotta figure it out, you you You told
me We've been sitting here for over an hour and
a half and you say you can figure out how
to get guys made of how to get guys shot.
You mean to tell you you couldn't figure out how
to get that man more getting that man on the
coach motivat.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I mean I take responsibility because I'm part of coaching staff, right,
So whatever we decide to make as a as a
as a staff, I'm never gonna go against that. I'm
not gonna go whisper and saying oh we should like no,
like once the decisions.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Made, that's what that's everybody got to buy into it.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
And as much as it hurt me, like you know,
he's like, damn cool. Yeah, Like I'm saying, like you
know what I'm saying, I wanted to play. I thought
you should be out there for like you know, once
you make a decision, I'm not gonna go.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
But oh man, this is the no. I mean, that's
decision that.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, And I'm not gonna never throw a coach on
the bus or a player or nobody else, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
So of course with my cousins, you know, of course
you right, yeah, hell yeah. Upbringing Mexico, Missouri, Like what
was it? Like what what what kind of town is Mexico, Missouri?
What do you'll what do y'all grow? Is a livestock y'all? Have?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
You know?

Speaker 4 (57:41):
You have corn bricks?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
We was known for bricks, ap greens and nationals. We
were we were known for having the number one was
it fire brick? Yeah, firebrick I think in the United States.
And so that's where all the money was generated from.
And then when they closed those plans down, that's when
you know, Mexico kind of went, you know, went down.

(58:04):
But to me, it was like a small city, right,
you know, because it's a town of eleven thousand people.
Well back then it was thirteen to five, but now
it's like eleven thousand. But it was a small city
because you had people that did everything. So if you
want to gamble, yeah, all the guys taught you how
to lock the dice or gree car mile you know,
you look, taught you how to you know, whatever, you know,

(58:24):
if you wanted to. You know, you don't get drugs.
You had people who were you know, went to college.
It had you know, god degree, so you had everything
you needed around and it's a small community. So you're
getting that every single day, you know, and so you
learn about it, you know, every single day. What you're
supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do, what
to get into, what not to get into. And what

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it teaches you is like when I got to the league,
you know, you get around those guys that grew up
in the city and you and you look and they
don't understand and see what's going with like guys are cheating,
and when guys are locking the dice or.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
They don't know what's going on, and you looking like damn,
these they're from a but they don't see what's going on, right,
you know it kind of so like me, I'm like
in Mexico, you learned everything at an early age, right,
you know, ten eleven, twelve, you know a boy, gambla,
you know about you know, if you're gonna be in
you know, the drugs scene, if you're gonna go out
and party, if you're gonna be whatever you're gonna be,
you can learn.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
About it right now. And so I thought it really
did a good job. Was just teaching me everything at
a young age. So when I got older, I wasn't
numb to none of the bulls.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
You know what I'm saying. I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I've seen it from every every angle and so that
really helped me to grow. And like I said, just
having a confidence that they have back home, like from
a you know, a crackhead to what that confidence? You
don't walk around you know, just as confidence as anybody else.
And that's what I love about being in Mexico because
everybody's together and everybody's one.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
It don't matter you know what you've done, if.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
You dropped out of high school, you dropped out of
junior high whatever, Like we all people and we all together.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
And that's why, you know, I love I love it
so much.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
You don't drink or smoke. Never got it because your
father had a substance. Is that why? Abuse problem? Is
that why?

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I could say that. You know my dad, you know,
he smoke crack, you know, growing up, and I give
him credit. You know, once he went to prison and
got out, he's been clean for twenty three years. Yeah,
never had a drink, never had a you know, any drug.
And we form a really great relationship. And so shout
out to Ronald Kim forgetting itself together. But you know

(01:00:26):
it takes a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, being on drugs the way he
was and to be clean and for us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Every day, yeah, you know what as an addict or
recovering addict is every day, every day you got to
drive by the liquor store, you got to drive by
the package shop, you got to somebody smoking, right, you
got to do this every single day for the rest
of your life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
And I'm a sugar addict, and I understand, and I understand. Well,
Shirley Temple's come out on the table saying I see it,
you know, like I saying, my grandpa he drank a lot,
and so I love my grandpa Tyron, right, So just
seeing those things and how it you know, when my
grandpa drank, when you come on at night, how you
would act, you know, and how my dad was and
just you know, seeing those dynamics, you know, maybe you

(01:01:08):
want to stay away. And then also like it was
like a badger honor like all my friends or you know,
they're drinking it. I don't want to do that, like
I want to be different, you know. And so it's
forty eight years now, so I don't need to do
it now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Yeah, you said you you lived with your uncle, and
you spoke about your uncle live briefly earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Two different Yeah my uncle jays idolized basketball, okay, and
that's not the one you live with, no, okay. Yeah,
And I went to live with my uncle Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Is that your mom's brother, your dad?

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
And so I saw more year in high school, I
got some trouble back home in Mexico, and the family
came to an agreement that you know, I needed to
get out of there, like you know, and have a
father figure being a bigger city and have a chance
to cause like teams wouldn't coming college coach wouldn't come
to Mexico to recruit, you know, and so to try

(01:01:59):
to playing my uh took my talents to South Beach,
you know what I'm saying, and went to Kansas City.
My uncle, like I say, he took me in, you know.
And as a sophomore, you know, that's tough, you know, yeah,
and you know hit the ground running, you know, it was.
It was hard because in Mexico you used to being
out on the streets till one two in the morning.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
You know, you're being policed and by all the different
you know, my mom's you know friend or.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
You know, yeah, so ain't you such as like boy,
you know better?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Right, So you get to Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
It's a big city, you know, and so it was
the dynamics were different, you know, having to be you know,
in at a certain time and you know, being you know,
being more safe, and you know, it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Was it was, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
It was an adjustment for me, but I needed it,
you know, and so, uh, you know, Kevin took me
in and I did my three years there and then
I was able to go to Nebraska from there and
then kind of you know, so I got my life
on track because I was going the wrong direction.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
So it was it was very much needed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
You had some health health issues. There was some chest
pain this past season. Damn coaching stressful. Huh this season
the last season a couple of years we were in Cleveland, Cleveland. Yeah,
well this year I had my messed my backup. Yeah,
my shoulder in my back.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
What did you do? I'm trying to get big, like
you know what I'm saying. You're trying to throw that
wait around and all that. Just I know better man
days are over, man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, And so I had, you know, I messed my
backup that No, it was like it was like yeah,
so but Cleveland is when I had the chest pains
and I didn't understand what was going on, Like I
feel like a heart attack, you know, or whatever a
heart attack you think you feel like. And I was

(01:03:42):
scared of sleep at night because like these sharp pains
were like just like shooting my chest. Like I was
scared to go to sleep because I didn't know what
was going So I wasn't sleeping. And we did all
the tests and so I went to Cleveland clinic and
I did all like the e kgs, the echo tests,
and the treadmill all that stuff, and so the doctor said, listen,
you might die, but it won't be from your heart.

(01:04:04):
Your heart is perfectly fine. So I'm like, damn, like
what's so? I was like, Okay, I feel better about that,
you know whatever. So we still kept trying to find
what was going on. And a guy with a doctor
and they said, oh, man, you're experiencing anxiety and depression,
you know, and so like depression ain't I'm from Mexico.
I ain't like like yeah, I ain't depressed like whatever.
He's like, no, like that's what you're experiencing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
So he was like, I want you to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
So they had some medication for me to take for
a couple of weeks and I took some time off,
which I give Cleveland g Yeah. Yeah, they were really
like serious about it, and I give Kobe Albin a
lot of credit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
For saying, listen, take the time you need, don't on this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
So took a couple of weeks off, changed my diet,
you know, took some medication, started doing yoga and all
that stuff and I may help. And then I got
the medication like right after the playoffs. And so the
guy the doctors in my happy places.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Gambling, like being yeah, being in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
And the playoffs. Really that was my happy place. And
so he's like anytime you get a chance. So like
what it's crazy. It's like our general manager, like Devid Griffin,
he had come to the house two times a week,
we have a poker game. You know, like they did
everything they could, you know, keep me engaged. But once
I found that out, but like it hasn't been a
problem ever since. But like that was some stressful times.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
How many hours a night were you sleeping?

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Probably three tops?

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Damn hell, I might be stressed in anxiety. But I
mean since I retired. I mean I used to sleep
fairly good when I was, when I was a player,
but once I got to a certain age, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Yeah, I mean, but I mean, because you know, when
you get older, you don't sleep with grandma sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I wonder why old people be up. Yeah they go
to bed and seven o'clock, but up at three. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
So but when you in the bend, you having chest
pass and sometimes you's spending up blood like and you
don't know what's going on, right, you know, so like it,
you know, because like coach is tough when you want
to be the best when you want to win, and
if the best player in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
You know, you would't need too many oxtails and hagmall
and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
No, No, you a lot of sugar.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
So you're like, so you got a sweet tooth. Yeah,
because we see h coach Papa Bitch had to retire.
I mean obviously coaching is very stressful, yes, because you
coach your team and the expectations are very very high.
You understand that. You understand when you get into this
profession what is expected of you. So it ain't no

(01:06:30):
pre chense well you know I want this team. It
ain't that no more as now. And the players that
you have. You got a guy that was a top
seventy five player. As a matter of fact, you got
two of them on your team. So the expectations are
is to win. Yes, you feel that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
I like that. Yeah, I like that because if you're
in a position to win a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Championship, that's all you that's all you can ask for. Yeah,
that's all you can ask for. If it was a
situation where you're not playing for a championship, you're not
conpeeding for a championship. What we're doing this for Yeah,
you know, I like those expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Give me all time. Starting five teammates, your former teammates,
guys that you played with as far as talent or
who I love you give me your starting five. Who
you're gonna start with? You got you got five. You
gotta start in five.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
But you know what I'm saying, who I like the
most or who are the best players you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Had to put together? Start in five with the five
teammates who wanted to be and why Shack Shack is one, Kobe, Kobe, Jordan, Jordan's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
T mac t mac.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Oh damn, y'all mean, yeah, we got y'all, Dirk Dirk j.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Kid, I'm sorry if I leave you. So, I mean
you're going by position right, So Shack, Dirk, Kobe Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
You can put team back in there. You can put
your yeah, go big yeah, t.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Mac Cole, Jordan, Dirk Shack.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Damn. That's that's a little squad, y'all. Might has ring
culture become a problem. We got to test on this
a little bit earlier because now you ain't got to
Now you ain't got to ring huge.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
I think I think it has, I think it becomes
it's become a problem because now you have guys thinking
that winning is more important than loyalty and doing it
the right way. And it's not their fault, but it's,
like you said, it's what it's projecting to the world.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I think it's hard to see franchises draft great players,
young players and you're willing to grow with, but they
leave to, you know, to try to pursue a championship
because they think that's what's gonna give them, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
To this point, the pinnacle.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I just think, yeah, it's it's definitely you know, cloud
our game, you know, just as far as saying, oh,
you gotta win, you gotta win chant like he's gotta
be a great player and a great person. Everything's gonna
take care of myself, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
And so I know, Steve, it ain't no guarantee even
if you go some place you're gonna win the championship, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Exactly, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
And so I think winning the port like you play
to win, correct, That's that's the number one goal, Like
that's the ultimate goal, you know. But I think there's
the right way to do it though, Like you can't
sell yourself, you know, because you want to win a champion,
Like I just you know, it's just so to me,
being the best player you can be doing the right
way grind to get to that point. I think it's

(01:09:35):
important and it's it's more fulfilling when.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
You do it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Is the era of the super teams over?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I think so, because of the way you know, the
cap instructure now the first AP Yeah, it's gonna be hard.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
You want to spend a badon dollar the year to
try to win the championship the NBA, by guess, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Then also like, if you're gonna do it, it's gonna
be with older talent guys is thirty five, thirty six,
and it's gonna take less money to try to win.
But I think the super teams and especially the way
the game is playing now with all the cutting and
slashing picking up full court like stars ain't doing like
so you need three four guys around to do the
dirty work, you know. So it's gonna be a little different.

(01:10:15):
So it might be one here here or there, But
for the most part, I think that's over.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Expectations for the Clippers this season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
To win at a high level. To me, I want
to get to the conference finals or better. And we
have a talented team to do it. Like our biggest
thing is over the years has been health, you know,
which has held us back. And still think about and
dreaming about my first year like a kawha, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Get hurt that year like that. The Utah series, Yeah,
he gets hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
We beat the number one CEE Utah and then were
playing the conference finals against things go to game six.
You know, PG had a hell of a you know
a series and you know came up short, you know,
And so every year has been something you know, co
O's mess. Every playoff series. PG has been out for
playoff series, and so it's just been tough. So for me,
I think with our coaching staff, you know, the team

(01:11:10):
that we've assembled with you know, Jeff Van Gundy, like
I said, Brian Shaw has done a great job, Jay,
Larry Naga, you know, Larry.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
Drewmy Castleberry, Daunte.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
So we got a great group of guys that has
played the game in some or that understands the game
and been head coaches before. And so I think with
that dynamic with our players, i think we've got a
chance to be pretty good. So I'm excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Clippers head coaches, gentlemen, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle the price,
one slice, got the all my life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
I been grinding all my life.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
All my life, grinding all my.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Life, sacrifice, hustle, pa price, one slice, doctor brother, all
my life, I been grinding all my life.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Attatatatatas

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