Club Shay Shay - Warren G Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You you mentioned you like Austin, but obviously Memphis is barbecue,
Kansas City barbecue.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
You have North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Uh if you had to, if you had to say
what city would you you say Austin Memphis? Uh? North
Carolina is not a city, It's a state. But what
what do you what? What place do you think if
I said, okay, give me a Mott Rushmore barbecue barbecue.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Places off Austin Memphis, and uh think you what was that?
South Carolina?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
South Carolina Barbecue?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah? Yeah, they got some good care, they got some
good barbecue. Met a lot of good pit masters from
out there as well.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
M do do they do? They share secrets?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Uh? So, some just a little they you know, tell
you you know. Some give you some secrets and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I just I.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Whatever people want to know, I can tell them. Right.
You know what you wanna know, I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Is a situation like when you chase barbecue, you try
to figure out what they've done to it, Like you.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Know how long?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
You know? Man, I think they probably probably let this
cook like ten twelve hours. They probably did this, They
probably brinded, they probably god this You know such and such.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I just like the taste of to see if it's
better than mine. But uh, I didn't have some good barbecue.
And I'm not gonna lie really good barbecue, and uh,
I'm like, I gotta step my game up here. But

(01:50):
I still I still, uh, I'm right there with him.
I actually did the National Barbecue UH Contest for the
first time and uh July and June and I won.
I won fifth and uh breasket and six and chicken Wow,
first time. That was a win for me.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah cause and now you hook, now you hook?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah. And I went up against like popular guys, like
it was real pit like, yeah, I'm a pit master,
but it was like some of the guys I look
up to in the contest, and I beat some of them,
and I was like, oh my god, I can't believe
I beat this person. Mm and a lot of they
showed me a lot of love too.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
When you.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
When you uh you entered this contest, you probably didn't
have a whole lot of expectations, like, man, I'm going
to get some of the the greatest pit masters in
the world. I've only been doing this for a small
amount of time, you know, to the level that you're
doing it now obviously you're you both beat in it.
Now you you hook you really you really hooked?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Did that make you like? Man?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
You know what, you're gonna open a restaurant? What do
you what are you gonna do with that?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's that's why I'm headed to open open. Uh. Right
now I'm online working on getting in the stores and
from the from once I'm in the stores and working
on the to uh get brick and mortar. Yep, get
to get the brick and mortar established one here California

(03:33):
in Vegas. Let people get it. Get to tasting some
good food.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Did your mama like you? Cause that's the seed, like
I can remember growing up.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's got to be a Midwest or something because something
grandmas ain't letting everybody in the kitchen all kind of house,
do you know? I mean you, Hey, you can come
in here and get a glass, get some water or something,
but mainly most time or not, Hey, go to that
go to that spicure outside and get you some water.
Get out of this kitchen. So you say your dad
was was allowed you know you're watching him. Did he
allow you to participate?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Uh? Not really? If I had to go go get
that from you go get this right, you know right
other than that. Nah, but I just used to you
just watch Yeah yeah, I usoo to watch and just
you know everybody that used to just you know, be
like having fun. I'm like, oh this is great.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Cause everybody coming over, all the family know, you got
your cousin, your aunt, all the kids get an opportunity
to play together and do all that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah yeah, and uh it's stuck with me. Man.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Do you do do you cook anything under the barbecue?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah? Yeah, I cook all. I mean, I'm do crab boys.
Uh samon I do? I do? I do Simon, I
do crab boys. I do anything, you know, I I anything.
I I should have made you some of my black
eyed peas.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Man, oh you have black eye peas?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
What my black eye? I should have made some. I'm
gonna make some black eye. I'm gonna do something where
you could a vent or something where you could taste
the black eyed peas. I do it.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Would you put baker, you put a ham? While would
you put in your black.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Tell nobody shause you can't cook no black peas.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You ain't got no meating.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Now it's it's it's a meat in them. But it's
it's uh, it's a twist that I have to it
that uh nobody is doing. It's it's a turkey I do.
I do have turkey necks in it. Definitely, that's definitely there. Yeah, yeah,

(05:44):
I got it. It's a it's it's a it's a
nice Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
You like breakfast, you cook breakfast food? You like breakfast? Breakfast?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I cooked breakfast. It's the basic breakfast you know, bacon eggs.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
And bacon eggs, you see.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean you you're in the South that you and
a t Yeah, Now you gotta have grit no cream
of wheat. I mean we do oat meal, but mainly
mainley grits.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
That I've been eating grits like crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Everywhere.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Every man is grits everywhere.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, you ain'tett no cream of wheat. So if you
come there the South, you ain't getting no creamy wheat yet. Grits.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, And I've I've had a lot of shrimp.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
And grit stripping grits, catfish and.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Grit yeah yeah, yeah, yes, and day and every everywhere
I've been at it's been some good, some good, uh,
some really good food. Man.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So this is called sniffing Griffins, Warren G Productions, Original
Poetry and seafood barbecue rub. Yes, and this is the
that you like goes with some of everything, Yeah, the
all purpose, all purpose. Oh yeah, but none of them.
I mean some got it some which one got a

(06:53):
little kick?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
We bring heat which is this right here, this sauce.
It's not a major kick. It just it's a creep up. Yeah,
it's not too overwhelming where you like, oh, alright, is
just a just a little bit of a a U
A A spiciness. And it don't even it ain't like
one of them last loans either, Right, it's just in

(07:16):
and out. But it's people like that extra little like
weeight kick and it it ain't it's not a super kick,
but it's a great it's a it's even. It's right
there to where it's not too much of this or
too less of that. Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
How often do you how often would you say you cook?
You cook daily?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You cook you know, special occasion, once a week, couple
times a week.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I barbecue three to four times a week, damn man,
year around. Yeah, when I'm at home, you know, I
I tell my wife She'll be like, well, I don't
wanna do this. I said, let me let me cook
it on the grill. Whatever. They let me cook it
on the grill. Mm. I love doing it. I love

(07:59):
doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
So your house is normally busy because you get you
cook it like that because people all wait over there.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah yeah, I just I just cooked for a couple
of my buddies. Uh, just for the fight. Yeah, that
was a good fight. Yes, indeed, that fight wasn't that close.
Budd beat the brakes off Canelo. Yeah, that was that
was yeah, he did.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't know how they get one fifteen one thirteen.
I don't know what fight they were watching, right, did
you see the fight.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
The first fight between the dude Adams and uh, I
think Martinez, the black dude in the and the Mexican
dude Martinez.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Oh yeah, Billy. Oh they were throwing the draw, the
split draw. Yeah. Oh they would throw a leather wow.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah that was that was that right there when they
mentioned them going again.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I'm for that.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
That's no bed, that's for the dude.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, because bo Max buzz train or trained Martinez. Yes, yes, yes,
they was laying and I was like wow, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yea,
yeah that Damn there was the fight of the Yeah,
they would definitely throw a lever.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I was.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I was surprised. I was like, man, I mean both
got hit with some shots. The boy and really sat
down on his boy. He would throw it. I mean
I was like, ooh, yeah, yeah, he was throwing some lever.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I was like, damn, they both gonna have brain.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Damn it.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Shit, the motherfucker's getting hard.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
But but damn one, you cooking three four times a
week year round.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, when I ain't.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
When I'm not, when you're not traveling, when you're not
doing you know, your.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Music and stuff, I come straight home and cook. I'd
just like to do it. Damn, man, I mean I
take breaks, I do what.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
But I'm saying what. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
When you were let's just say you when your mid
twenties thirties, well you cook it like when you Now.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I wasn't doing it like that. I just would cook
wherever we was because we was moving so much, moving around,
right whenever we have time or I know, we was
there for a little bit, right boom.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Right, I spend all that money. You just buy the
stuff and just go all the.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Tours that we've been on. I didn't cook that all
of them. Really, all the tours we didn't been on me.
Snooping Wiz just did a tour about a year and
a half, two years ago. Uh, I cooked every day
on that. To Snoop wanted me to be is cook
on the cook pittmasking on the tour. I said, Snoop,

(10:34):
I can't do that. I'm already performing here and I'm
performing with you. I can't cook all this goddamn food.
But he was. He really wanted me to cook, and
I was like, I will, but I can't do it
like you want me to do it. But I do
it here here and there, here, here, here here, well

(10:57):
not every day for you and we we we every
day five all during the week, even.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Though our life doing it.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
But I couldn't do it doing and perform and performer
cook performer mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Because barbecue take a long time.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Man. You gotta watch it. Yeah, you got first of all,
you gotta prepare. Hell, it take a couple of hours
just to get it prepared. Yeah yeah, do all that brining.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah yeah. I Brian my Turkish too. I love him.
I let him sit for like uh almost three two
about two and a half days.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Mm hm, you cook turkey wings, turkey legs.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
What do you the whole?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
The whole turkey.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Legs, turkey wings, all of them. I should have bought
some turkey wings. Boom, you would have did that. Everything
would have just said of the off the bomb you cook?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Call of green too, things too.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Green? Band? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
What you put there? You what you put in your collar?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Green?

Speaker 1 (12:07):
You put?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Are you turkey necks?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Turkey leg?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I have a butcher cut it cut the turkey leg
and half.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
When I put it in there, then I make I
do like a damn near want to say, a kind
of not a room, but like a nice base.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Them build it up and build all my stuff off
from my from my base, all the way up.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
M you don't put you don't put a pigtail. When
I grew up, we put pigtails in uh in collar greens.
I think everybody's kind of graduating. They don't picture of band.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I ain't dead that No, I ain't. I ain't dead
that one.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
No real You mentioned your uh your parents got divorced
when you were younger.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Did that impact you in any way?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I didn't impact me because I sh she made my
mother made sure that I was still around my dad.
Uh huh. She would he would come pick me up
on the weekends and I would spend time with him.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
So she never she never tried to keep you away
from him. Never never said anything bad about him.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Nah, she didn't talk bad about him or nothing. But
she did send me tell him like, go move with
your daddy. I'm like shit, alright, well it was, it
was all good. I still was back down right around. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, because you you you mentioned you were the only boy.
You had three s you had three sisters. Yeah, you
the oldest or where where'd you fall into?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I'm the I'm the third yeah oldest. Okay, yeah, I'm
the third oldest. Uh, I got a sister. Uh under me,
it's my sister missing me and uh Tracy and Felicia.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay, so you the knee baby.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah yes indeed.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh yeah, So how was it? I mean, w was
your sister? Where they where they protected?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
They was gangsters? Yeah yeah, they they they was Uh
they was they was hardcore. Uh like my sister Felicia
and my older sister. She had hands right, so she
she was fighting, jeez, like real, she was fighting, dude,

(14:36):
she putting a pauls on do putting pauls.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, she she she she was, Uh, she was. She
was a a gangster. You know.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I read her.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
You said your mom said that she sent you with
your dad because she said you needed a man.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
In your life.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Uh, or you think that was the reason why she
did it, or you just well you a bad.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I wasn't a bad. I wasn't bad. I wasn't you know.
I mean, I was just doing the things that you know,
uh rocks ding dong ditrimon, uh, fighting a little bit.
But she just you know, and then but the one

(15:23):
thing I used to do, I would uh, I wouldn't.
I didn't like like anybody she was with.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh you wasn't. You were dead.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah. So she used to tell me, like, around them,
she's like you the man of the house. She would
tell me that, step like you the man of the house.
Don't even though I got a boyfriend or whatever, you
the man of this house. She used to always tell
me that.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like, okay, well, since I'm the man the house, you
get out.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't like you.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
The house.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I was like, uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
But did you ever think that you know the situation
that you your mom and dad would get back together.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Did you hope they would get back together?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Uh? I hoped, but it it never happened. My dad
had moved on, my mother moved on. And actually my
mother she had a had a had a m a
guy that sh they I they was gonna get married.
His name was Tommy Cotton. Tommy was cool. Yeah, he
was a cool cat. After he probably was the only

(16:34):
guy that I I that you Yeah, Yeah he was cool.
I ain't gonna lie he was cool. Yeah. And then
my dad, Mary Verner, and were raised. Vernon was vern Yeah.
Vernon was really good to me and actually she showed
me a lot, raised me as well. M you know,
she raised me as well r very you know her

(16:56):
and my mother both was they both made me, you know,
was raised me as a young man, and uh along
with my dad and uh it was.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
It was when you met Andre government name goes by
to doctor Dres everybody knowing math. What were your first thoughts?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
What were ya? How old were you when you gots met?

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think I was about maybe Uh, I had maybe
about eleven twelve somewhere around there.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
So he, I mean he was about fifteen.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Proba was so he be you know, Uh yeah, I was.
It was yeah the uh I was eleven he yeah, yeah,
and uh, I mean we automatic did y'all hear it?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Y'all hit it off? Ya did y'all hit it off
with their like Eddy cot nothing.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, no. They took me in, just took me right in.
And uh actually they had me, uh fighting and shh
had me fighting box cause I used to box like
a lot of the the neighborhood kids right there, uh
in our neighborhood. And uh so they had me fighting

(18:10):
like the guys my age. We would have battle of
the blocks, right and then that's what we would, you know,
getting the gloves. I used to win a lot of 'em.
You know. My my competition was was uh one of
my buddies. His name was Stank. He had hands. We
was we They called me Kibbles and Vest back then,
cause I was you know Kibble's and Bess Kibble's getting

(18:34):
and uh uh we went from Kibble's to Sir Cool,
which actually is the name that actually that's the name
I I'm that's that's gonna be the title of of
of the the new project that I I have coming's
called cir Cool. And uh that name was given to me,
you know, by by m you know, between my sisters

(18:56):
and Andre and them. I I don't know which one
of 'em came up, but they started calling me so cool. Yeah,
and that's that name. I'm like bringing it like bringing
the back, yeah, bringing it back for that project.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
So how how was the sleeping arrangements? So what was it?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Like? Okay, the boys had a room because because did
Andre have sisters?

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, sham maker, okay.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
So obviously, so obviously she had her own room. Your
mom and your your your your mom and father had
their room. And then all the boys sleeping one way. Yeah,
we slept in one room.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
It was two beds, so I had to sleep in
in the bed he I was sleeping in the bed
with andre A sleeping in the bed with Tyree. I
was young. I sleep on the floor or one of
some you know, to be right, you know. But Dre
was on the move a lot, so he wouldn't he
would be coming in Cooper Lake, you know, cause he
would be on the move, mounting back and forth. Uh huh,

(19:56):
hey we we was we all made it working? Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
How was it having a famous brother? Because fairly early
on in his late teenage early twenties.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Huh he became doctor Drake.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, Uh, I mean it was cool. It was cool.
I was in junior high school and I was just
you know, like I I looked up to him so much.
I asked him could I wear his UH jacket? There
was a world class record crew jacket. One time he
let me wear it and a swatchwatch and he let

(20:32):
me wear that shit. I was the man the school
cause I had the UH, the the NW, the purple
not NWA with the UH world class record crew purple
jacket with the little record thing on it, and I ha,
he has watch watches. He let me wear a Swatch watch,
and uh, I w I was the man. Everybody was like,

(20:52):
damn he got on a NW, I mean a a
world class record crew jacket. It was It was amazing,
you know, really cool, and everybody was just like damn.
They thought I was famous.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And then obviously he joins NWA. It's easy, it's dre.
It's q wren with DC.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Above a lard as well. Yeah, laylong co one eighty
seven KMG and go Mac. Total chaos.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
When they formed n w A, they told you what
the n w A stood for. Did you have any
idea they transformed their the original gangster rap they're ogs.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Did you know they were gonna become what they became?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I knew it because they they was already bubbling in
the neighborhood off of just mixtapes. They was bubbling at
the Roadeum, swapped met off of mixtapes, doing mixtapes around
the neighborhood with would you know that's actually? Uh? Boys
in the Hood was pretty much like a like a

(22:06):
just's some mixtape, right song?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Right?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
That just went circulating and then it blew up from
the rodeum swaped me to the neighborhoods to it turned
into a a A first a single. They always they
they bubbled before, you know, before the NWA. They was
always just making noise, right you know? Yeah, yeah, So

(22:32):
I knew they was gonna be be something.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
You got an opportunity to see them see it grow
from the very beginning. You saw the infancy, You saw
the seed stage, and then you see the plant and
you see the finished product.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
What was it like being around Easy? What was it
like being around Q? What was it like being around
wren and and those other guys?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Uh? Crazy? A lot of fun. Uh, A lot of
a lot of shit talking. Uh, A lot of beautiful women,
a lot of just everything, uh just fun just you know,
they w they w and and I used to just

(23:15):
beat a young pup j around everybody right and and
just n n just like them talking shit and and uh.
I actually on the It Was for Life album, I
did the uh one nine hundred the Compton skin where
they had me come in there and act like I

(23:37):
was getting a uh arrested in in uh well in
the county jail. And uh that was really one of
the that was a really popular skit on that album.
I think I was like mm, I think I was
about maybe like sixteen, about seventeen years old when I
did that skit. Yeah that was niggas Fu seventeen or eighteen.

(23:58):
It was for Life uh one nine hundred comp and
people probably listen to that now like that was you Like, yeah,
that was me, you know, and uh so it was
that type of stuff going on, a lot of lot
of fun, just a lot of shit talking, a lot
of a lot of gangster shit. It was. It was

(24:20):
it was uh exciting.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
You you mentioned earlier and we talked touched on this
briefly about Dre and your music. Do you think one
of the things that he wasn't as supportive as you
thought he should have been. Maybe he didn't think he
was gonna you was taking it serious enough, or you
didn't he didn't think you would would was it serious
as you needed to be, or it wasn't gonna go
w what do you what do you think the reasons were?

(24:44):
Or he felt that you know what people gonna say,
he just got on because of me. Let him go
figure it out on his own. Let him do blow up,
and if he blows up over there, they can't say.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Dre gave him a hand out.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Uh. I wanted to be different.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
He taught me a lot of stuff, but I just
wanted to do my music different. I wanted to do
more of cause, like it was, the music they was
doing is like super hardcore. Yeah, I wanted to do I.
I still could do that, but I wanted to do
this to where it's it's a good feel to it,
like it a feel good like a like E like

(25:26):
with some of the the records that's on that was
on the Chronic, like some of those ideas I I
I I brought some of those ideas and uh, the
ones that that I was involved in it. It was
more like a feel good or it had a message
to it, you know, like the the skit, like the

(25:46):
D's nuts. That was a whole. I told Drake, turned
the mic on, went in there, jumped on the phone
and called one of my home girls. Uh, just having
a normal conversation. And then I ended it with you know,
did what your name get at you? And she's like, oho,
geez now, so I I told I told him we

(26:08):
did that right there, just even like uh the uh
the s the skip from the mac right you know,
that was a records I bought a a whole black exploitation.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Well.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I went to a company, a record cor record store
and brought the a whole like maybe two or three
cra crates of a black exploitation uh movies, and brought
all of those back and we dug through those albums
and we would find skits. We like Dolar Mike. We
used a lot of Dolar mic. We had pulled that

(26:43):
out of there. A lot of the records that was
used was pulled out of these crates, like let Me
Ride was a uh a uh, it was a a
a dub record that I bought from. Uh Uh, it's
a st your story used to sell like stub records.

(27:03):
He used to sell like sample different samples and stuff
like that. So I got that record and that's where
the uh, the let me ride idea came from the
thatch that let me Rod said, Dre, listen to this shit,
and he he listened to it. He was like, that

(27:24):
shit is dope, and Dre is such a a genius
and dope producer. He took that shit and put it
together outside of the the idea that I brought, but
it was like he he put it together and made
it come to life, you know. And that's a lot
of records, you know. We I used to push a
bunch of ideas to him and he would take 'em

(27:46):
and and and do it.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
A little ghetto board you know. That was uh uh
one of the records that that that another record that
that he had, uh that idea that he he took
it and check it over. I had the different My
drums was a little different, but I was like, shit,
go ahead, just like you know, because I'm my My

(28:08):
whole mentality is if you win, we all gonna win, right,
so we invested everything we had enough to make Dre
a superstar period, and that was along with what with
what with him as the producer. We just that's what
our our that's what our mindset was, that's what our

(28:28):
goals was to make him a superstar. So we took
everything that we had and invested in him.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You learned a valuable lesson about working on the Chronic because,
like you said, you brought some ideas. Yeah, and probably say, man,
I wish I could have gotten me a couple of
those credits, a couple of little publishing on that thing.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Real nice, and I wish I had a business mind,
but I didn't know about the publishers. I didn't know
about it, like off top, but yeah I did. I
wish I would have got you know, I wish you know,
it would have been more of like, Okay, let's get
this dude from credit, because he did put in a
lot of work. None of that was was there, none

(29:14):
of that was done. But you know, like I said,
our goal was to to put all we got in
there to helping Dre become a monster huge, to blow
him up, you know, because that's what we looked up to.
So we like and he was away from n w A,
was away from easy now. He he was like you know.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
And he had and that was the time that he had.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, he hadn't because he didn't really he didn't leave
Sugar until the late nineties. Yeah, this was Yeah, he
was still at he was at death Row.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well no, it was if he wasn't with nobody, Well
it wasn't. Death Row wasn't even formed yet. Future Shot Okay,
it was called Future Shot first that you know. That's
then it turned out in the death Row.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, because basically when Tupac got out what ninety six.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Five, like ninety five, like the summer ninety five somewhere
around there.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
And then he ended up like hey, given the entire
death Row to Shire and then started after Math. Was
that that how after Math started?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah? That was Aftermath charged it to the game. Like
he just didn't want to be involved with the way
way they were doing businesses they yeah, and the way
it was moving. He didn't want to be involved because
you know, it was just couldn't move around. He couldn't
go nowhere because it's like, oh that's one of them
death Row. Yeah, you know, and they probably whooped somebody

(30:47):
ass or done some you know, you know, I don't know,
something might have happened.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And then okay, they got you isolated.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
You don't even know it was blind right, and uh,
I mean it's taken the test, got tired of and
just wanted to to, you know, get away from all
of that. So he bounced.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You gottas he bounced. But that's the thing, go think
about it. I mean, he really, he really created that
and to say, man, you know what y'all can have that, I'm.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Out Cause he knew what he could do. You know,
he knew he was that town, he was that talented,
and he knew what he could do. And he had
the machine behind him that followed, you know, Jimmy went
with him. That was the machine. MM. So he can
redo this all. He could do this all over again.
You still got all of us if you need us
to help with anything. And the chronic, the the second chronic,

(31:41):
can you know boom is still But that was all
him on his whole, a new new reed, new company,
and that that album was Now, I didn't have nothing
to do with that one, do yes? Indeed, what are
it like.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Seeing someone that you actually grew up with, that you
actually know that you could actually touch be a billionaire.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Uh. I mean it's it's it's it's uh.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, I mean my brother was
good at football, but let him have a bit of billionaire.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
It. I mean it it was just I wasn't even
I don't be tripping. I was just like, he's just
your brother. Yeah, you know, I ain't never really just
like because it's hard.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
It's hard. It's hard to really because I gave private
example one.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, now let me now I say that took took
me on a vacation with him. Now I ain't gonna
lie that. We had our own private jet. Everything. We
went out to the islands and like some ship way
out in the deep out there and like the Mall
des Balley not that far uh uh uh what was

(33:00):
it mystique? Okay, it was a spot called it's it's
a call spot.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
We went out there and and and he had that
ship laid out. We had our own matching. I was like,
this is rich. We on our own private jet. We
flew to the When we got to the airport, we
jumped on another little bitty plane where the windows was
opening like and we flew here. When we got there, Uh,

(33:29):
golf courts picked us up and they said, mister Griffin
and I jumped on the court, We're taking you to
your quarters. I'm like my quarters ship hear me? We
went to our own mansion. I'm like, it's falling. And
then and then he he had a he had like

(33:49):
it was a call thing where everybody got We all
got called okay, everybody meet up at the main matching
uh at this time. So we're like all right, boom.
So the courts out there, they pick us up and
they drive us over there. And we drove in that
mouth and that ship was like coming to America with
like the curtains and ship swinging like the it was

(34:12):
a beautiful matching, big gass mansion and the entry and
like I said, that ship the waving and then we
walked through the house. The house was huge, went out
to the back, big ass like thing with with lights
and ship around and a big old beautiful table with
just food everywhere and just beautiful, beautiful music. Even Guappoli

(34:38):
was banging uh boom boom boom boom. I was like, oh,
this nigga and he doing it big damn we smoking cigars.
I ain't even a cigar smoking. I'm out there, like,
but that's when I was like this, this dude is

(34:58):
uh he yeah, he got it, he got it going on. Man.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Man, that's uh for me.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
When people would tell me, man, your brother is good
as Jared Rice, your brother good is Michael Lowy, Your
brother's good as this, I couldn't see anything but my brother.
So I couldn't see him outside of that. And I
think you you're like, man, I grew up with him. Yeah, yeah,
I understand. He doctor Dre, I understand. He just superducer.
Here's my brother. Yeah, slipping the same bed. I mean,

(35:30):
we ate the same boy in the same Delltate. We
did all that. It's hard to see somebody that you
grew up with outside of what you saw from that
very point.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
But then you're like, yeah he different, Yeah, yeah, brother different.
He definitely different. Because this air, this here is is
what you read about when you see these movies. You
see this James Bond stuff and they're on this island
and they lady come up out of the water and
James Bond is he's standing on the he's standing on

(36:02):
the thing with Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Different, it's different.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
He's different, and we we different now yeah, yeah, yeah,
we different now.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Oh yeah yes.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And you also during that time you were around Tupac.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Uh huh, Tupac was. Tupac was lot of people like man.
Tupac was living a lot too. He might have been
the first like rapper that became a movie star. Now
we've seen we've seen other guys. We've seen who is
that math do it? We've seen a Buster rhymes do it?
Ice Cube is done it, Snoop has gone into that.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
So we see a lot of other guys. But Tupac
was you know.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Juice and proetic justice and all that. Excuse me, Jason Lyric,
what was what was Tupac like?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Cool? Like that's a cold dude? Uh he uh hyper
it was hyper. Uh See, Tupac is one of the
first dudes. Him and mc bree was the first couple
of guys to give me, give me my first shot
at uh uh production outside of uh with up, out

(37:10):
of outside of the the Death Row UH company. But
he he was he was a he was a good
dude man, just just you know, didn't you know. He'd
tell you what he whatever he felt, he'd tell you.
He wouldn't hold nothing back. Uh, and just a just
a cool dude. You know. We I had a uh

(37:35):
I got a story, uh that you know I did.
I done some music for him, and uh, I was
hitting him like, pac, I need to give my money. Man,
I didn't done all the uh you know, done this
music for you. Da da da da dah. He was like,
i'm'a get you your money da da da m But
I'm like, alright, So it was still cool. So seeing

(37:57):
him up at the uh comedy store, I tell you
I I walked up to him, I was like, parck,
I need to give my bread. Uh came right out
the pocket, like, came out, broke me off my money.
It I was only charging fifteen hundred dollars a beat back.
Then yeah, I he came right off the pocket and

(38:18):
broke me off my bread right then and there. And uh,
you know, I I felt kind of bad, like cause
we cool, right, you know, so I felt kind of bad, like, yeah,
I C I felt kind of bad having to ask
him like, man, I need my mother for money. And
uh but we we we still was cool after that.

(38:39):
But right after that him and him at Tretch, I
got into a fight with some cats right at the
comics Tretch Tretch, Uh he could he he was there.
They got into a a squabble right after that. But
you know, I that w That was like a a
moment where I was like, damn, that's my guy. But
I gotta I gotta you know, got I gotta. I

(39:03):
gotta get paid Ship, I gotta get paid you. But
we were still. We was cool after that everything, and
he always he always been a solid guy. And I
actually tried to get him out, you know, when he
was on had that bell going. Me and another one
of my good friends, Richie rich We used to he

(39:25):
and the he was from the bay up there where
Park was at. We used to talk all the time.
So he knew that me and Pok was cool. Him
and Poc was tight, and so I told him like, look,
let me put up the money. I'll put some money
up to get him out and should beat me to
the punch. Uh you know, but right, yeah, I was

(39:51):
gonna put Actually I don't I don't think he might have.
He probably put a millionaire but it wasn't a million dollars.
It wasn't it wasn't a million dollars. It was. It
was less than that. But you know, he wrote the
letters him and Rich was going back and forth, and
I told him just let me know what I could do.
And I was like, I don't want nothing, you know,

(40:14):
want nothing back it. But if I asked you to
do a song or something, let's let's do a song.
But other than that, I just want don't want to
see you in that position. So I was willing to
put up some bread to get him out of there.
And my god, Rich he was, he was. He witnessed that.
You know. It was a few people you know out
there saying that, uh, that that wasn't real. But you know,

(40:36):
well Sugar even said it wasn't real. But it's real.
You know, Rich was his. That was a dog, so
you know, but it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
This was before Look, he's a digital underground. He had
a little hard bag, even more of a dancer. Then.
Did you know he when he got out and he
did all I on me the two disc?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Did you did you hear it before it came out?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
No? I wasn't nowhere around it.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Did you did you know it was going to do this?

Speaker 4 (41:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't. I didn't know nothing
that was going on. But I had actually I ran
into him at the House of Blues and we hugged
and everything. And this was around when he got out,
we hugged everything. He was like, I want to work
on let's work. So I was like, all right, it's
all good. And what had happened, Uh, it was an

(41:39):
incident that happened. Uh, a studio incident that happened that. Uh.
That's what led to me saying because he was like,
let me, let me come to this up the cannon
and I was like, nah, I'm not coming up there.
You know that look because it was a little incident
that happened up there where you know, they had called

(42:01):
me in. They was like Warren, Uh, you know, Sugar
didn't want to holler at you. At the end of
uh melean the back. So I'm like, what do he want? Like,
what do you want with me? So I'm like let
me So I said, I'm coming man. So somebody else,
like man should want to holler at you. So I

(42:22):
was like all right, So I'm like, man, let me
go back here and see what's going on. Man. He
probably want to do some business or something of something
like that. And then should I walk back in that
mother and the mother and mother came out of the
side doors and shit tripping, tripping, like all ran up
on me, grabbed me and shit, and I'm like the

(42:46):
and it was awful.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You ain't know what it was about.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I know what it was about, but I didn't know
that that that it was because dra left right and
he I hadn't He didn't tell me, you dog like one,
don't go around that sho.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, because if he'd told you, you'd have never went
over there.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Never.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I wouldn't have never went. But it was just like,
you know, I'm just like, damn what you know, Like
why y'all tripping on me? You know what I mean?
But so it was kind of it was like one
of another guy, I know, one of my homeboys. He
kind of caused like a diversion. He came in, like
why y'all tripping with warm? What's going on? What's happening?

(43:27):
So when he was doing that, I went just like that.
I got on the door and I hit that knob
and boop, slid right out the door. And when I
walked through the door, I seen people I knew in
the kitchen. I'm looking at him like he's tripping, and
so walked through and I got to the middle of
the hallway and they came running out that muther get

(43:49):
that nigga blood. I took off again. I took off,
but this time I got out the door. Uh but they,
I swear it got the whole whoever all the people
that came running after, they just failed. It was like
a domino like they failed in the hallway. Which that's

(44:10):
the reason why I was able to get away. So
I got away and I jumped in my truck, backed
it up, and I was like, fuck y'oll and took off.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Took off.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
My chain got snatched.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
What change did you have?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
I had a g funk chain And so.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
That when it started that doing that foolish start snatching changed.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
So chant no change snatching that been going on for
a long time, and I'm I'm gonna admit it, I ain't.
It was nothing I could do. I was in a
position like where if I can't do ship, if I
pull out a gun and start the pulled start blasting,

(44:53):
I'm gonna get killed by these other mother with all
these guns here. It was a no win situation. So
when my chain got I was I was kind of like,
but it's.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Like that little see another day.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, you get what am I gonna do?

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
The three times my side.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Had you not, had you not snuck out of the door,
you think they would You think they woulda did they?
It would have been worse.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, yeah, it woulda. It would have been ugly.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, cause they was mad at you because you the
closest thing to Dre pretty much, and so to get
back at Dre, they gonna get you.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
That's the way I I s That's the way I
looked at it, cause I and I didn't know. I'm like,
I wish he would have told me that he was
leaving shit, you know, but charged it to the game,
you know, and even even even you know, even today,
you know, every now and then, Sugar say some shit,

(45:50):
Uh just talk some shit. Why I have no idea.
He'll say some shit like warn them set up tupacers
some crazy yet yeah stop it, you know, But I ain't.
You know, like at the end of the day, it's
I I I don't grown so much to where it's

(46:10):
just like you know what I I don't have. I
don't have I don't listen to it. I ain't got
no hate towards him, none of that stuff, any of
those situations. I c I charged all that to the game,
and it's just like, don't keep poking at me. You know,
I ain't. I ain't. I don't say nothing about him.
He'll say something here and there, and I'm just like

(46:31):
every now, I've I've responded a couple of times because
that pissed me off. But it's just like, I'm not
gonna keep entertaining that I ain't. I ain't got nothing
against you. Out and moved on. I do my thing.
I'm grown now, right, Uh, whatever happened back in the day, whatever, Okay, cool,
it is what it is. So now I'm moving on,
but don't come. Don't keep poking on me, cause I

(46:52):
ain't with you, right, you know, so leave me alone.
I they're everything I speak on is facts. And I
never threw no dirt on his name, nobody, nobody, none
of these guys. Never been a whistle blow and never
do no no dirt on nobody, none of that. I
just always you know, just me, me, and I carried

(47:14):
myself in a different way and out the way.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Is it true that you told Snoop not to go
to that that Tyson seldom fight yeah, because I had
actually I had went to the Tyson Frank Bruno fight.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I think that was April, and as.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
A matter of fact, it was my first time being
in Vegas and I was walking on the strip. Tupac
and Snoop was in a Rose Roys together dropped top wow,
and I remember walking. I was walking down the thing
and I was looked over there and they both kind
of like looked over there.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
It's like, man, what's up sharp. I was like, what's
up guy?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
You know, cause it was like it was like I
love you, man, because I didn't expect.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I didn't expect to see.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
We love you. And so I was like damn.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
And I remember getting on the pall. I called, I
called my sister, called called my home. I said, man,
you're never gonna guess who I just saw rolling down
the strip and like who, I said, Man, I saw
Tupocket Snoop. And so that was the That was the
the Frank Bruno and Tyson fight. And then I think
that September was when Tyson fought Bruce Seldon and that's

(48:23):
when all that yeah went down and it like you
told Snoop Stick.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Snoop, don't go uh it wasn't the reason. The reason
why I called Snoop is because I didn't like it.
Wasn't like, don't go Snoop, because I knew like I
knew you. I called Snoop to come kick it with
me down here. I'm a barbecue. You don't never come

(48:47):
hang with me, No, mom, come on, come on over here.
I'm single. I was well, I was I was in
a beginning relationship with my wife kind of in a
very very early stages. But I was still like by myself.
I was still living by myself and all that stuff.
So I had a gang of people come over. It
was a couple of girls came through, guys came through. Barbecue.

(49:09):
But he was he you know, he would never come
when I went, would invite it, right, So I invited him.
He was like, no, they I'm going to Vegas. Da
da da da Dad. So he pretty much surprised me
and came over. You know, he came. So I look
outside and he in the Rose Royce, a white with
the with the peanut butter all that.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I was like, damn, And I said, let me drive
that mother. So he let me drive it. I drove
it around, you know, around the neighborhood a little bit
where I lived at. It was inside gates, but I
was driving it around and stuff, but he was just like,
I'm gonna come, I'm gonna hang with you. And I
was like, all right, shit. So it was all good.
We barbecued, had a good time. And then that's when

(49:55):
all the all the stuff started happening, all this all
kind of shit all come his phone ringing, all kinds
of shit beeping it and he had got the news
like what happened down there? He just immediately took off boom.
He shot straight out of there. He's like, I gotta go,
I'm gonna pune and he shot jump in his car

(50:17):
and was shot straight to Vegas. Yeah, and uh.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
When you had heard what happened Tupac had got shot?
Did you did you know? Did you know it was
a drive by? Did you think he had gotten to
the confrontation, somebody had got to drop on him? What
did you think had happened when you had heard Tupac
had gotten shot? Or did you did they give you
any details?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I didn't get no details or nothing. I just heard
he had got shot and was hoping that he was okay. Right,
you know what I mean, cause it's like, damn, okay,
pot got shot. He gonna be alright, right, Yeah, and
because he you know, from what they were saying, you know,
he was in the hospital, he was getting some operations whatever.

(51:00):
But they wasn't saying like, you know, that he was
gonna die or anything. Right, it was that shit was hard,
that shit was rough, you know, like that was some
serious shit like that. Everybody up for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, because if I'm not mistaken, Tupac was only twenty five.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Yeah, he was young, young, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah, he had just he hadn't even been out maybe
a year yeah yeah, yeah, and was gone. And that's
why people don't realize he didn't have the longevity that
a lot of these rappers have. I mean, he didn't
have a five year, ten year, fifteen, twenty year career.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, as a solo artist, it might have been what
a year maybe two years tops.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Well, he had albums before, he had he had he
had records before that, he had sold the story, he
had he had a bunch of he had the albums,
like right before the death Row thing, and death Row
picked him up, took him in. Yeah, he asked he
was he was popping, you know, then as well. But

(52:06):
what was what's the trip? Is that? That Me against
the World album?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:11):
He pretty much like that was like thirty, like twenty
some years worth of work in one album. Like the
the things he the direction he was steering at, the
guys our age and the things about the kids.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
And what he talked about dear Mama and uh, Brenda's
got a baby. Yeah this I mean what like the
stories that I mean he was telling a story.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah yeah, and it was like he was he told
the future because now a lot of this stuff happened
and some of it is still happened. Like he said,
epidemic and diseases. What is the future and look, we'd
be having all these epidemics and diseases.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yes, like that.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
So you when you look at somebody, Okay, he left
digital underground probably in the early nineties, so he probably
you know, jumped on the scene probably what ninety two,
ninety three, went away for what sixteen seven eighteen months?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
He was he was still putting out records. He was
putting out Uh it was still in there.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
People, don't I mean so so so young. Yeah, I
mean he wasn't even in his prime. No, no, And
then all Lives on Me just came and it was
just like a two disk and it just like Dre
was on it.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
It was just it was it was crazy. Yeah, it
was crazy.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
I produced how Long would They Warm Me? Uh, Definition
of a Thug? And then I did I produced a
lot of kick it for him. The Definition of a
Thug was was his first like thug life song that
I did me and him at Echo Sound and then
after how Long Will They Warm Me? I've done that

(53:49):
the same night at Echo Sound when we did Definition
of a Thug, I was That's when I that's once
again I was. I was so long. I was out
on my own and just wasn't Uh. I was still
working and doing things, but I wasn't like around at
that time, around anybody. I was just at home, well

(54:12):
at my sister apartment, sleeping on the floor. MM. And uh,
I got got that call. You know, I didn't. I
didn't know it was Pock but cause he well he
he he called, but I didn't think it was him. R.
It was like Pick can't get ready to be called.
But I'm like, man, who is this playing game? The
Saint Pick? And he was like this Pick and then

(54:34):
it's all this I said, oh shit, this is Tupac
and he was like, you got some music. I was like, yeah,
So like I made that go sound. So I grabbed
my uh drum machine, grabbed my creative records, grabbed my
my uh my bladder at it al and uh jumped
in my rigal and shot straight up that go sound.

(54:54):
Walked in there and it was him, and Uh I
went straight to work, started popping dish in the drummers
shan't planning it, yeah, and we came up with a
hit fast too. He wrote that record in like thirty
about thirty five forty minutes definition of a third. After
we talked, we sat right there and talked with each

(55:14):
other for We talked for maybe like maybe an hour
cause he was asking me questions. He was like he
was interviewing me, right, and uh so it's like he
took some of the things that I told him. He
put that in that song. That that that he went

(55:36):
in there and laid. He laid it in like thirty
five forty minutes and knocked it down fast. And then
he got a call at one of his buddies that
got shot. So he came in. He said, Warren, you
got something for me, I want to do a song
for my buddy that just got killed, So I dropped
a I actually did a flip a record that I

(55:58):
flipped already on on another record, and uh gave it
to him and then he did a song on it
and it worked on that on his record.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
So that's how long we do?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Morm me?

Speaker 3 (56:13):
How long were they warm?

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Me?

Speaker 3 (56:15):
I had a song called super Soul says, which used
the same sample, and how long will They Warming? Was
that same sample. I used the same sample on two
different albums, Wow, and it worked on both of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Tupac he worked with, He worked with Mike. You're no
not Tupac.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
You did Yeah. So I mean to see and every
once in a while, you're here Mike singing acapella, and
then you could hear his voice, you could understand. I
can only imagine what Michael would be in the Internet era,
because people are fainting. People would go and zert, Yeah,
he sold a hundred million albums. Yeah, ain't nobody saying

(57:04):
them a hundred million?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Nothing now nowhere near it.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
So he was doing he was, he was doing that.
But to be in the studio with Mike and to
hear his his natural voice.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Yeah, what was that?

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Like? Shit, I almost fainted ship so you yeah. Uh.
Bruce and Renee were two guys he was working with. Uh.
They was his his producers and they were fans of
my music. So they called me and they was like,
we want you to produce some records for Michael. And

(57:40):
I was like, hell, no, y'all, y'all Michael Jackson I was.
They was like, yeah, Michael Jackson. I was like, oh
my god. I couldn't believe it. And uh, well, they
was like, he wants to meet you. And I was like,
are you serious? They like, he wants to meet you.
So went up there. Uh. He was at actually a

(58:05):
Record one studio up in the valley. Uh got there,
went inside and walked in the room and it was
just like like, hey, what's up, man, Michael? Or da
da da da? Like he wasn't It wasn't none of that.
It wasn't none of that.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
That's what I heard people say. His normal voice was
not like none of that.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
He was like what's up, man? Like man, like you know,
da da da da. Like I'm like, my god, I'm
about to lose it right now. I'm about to about
the paint. I'm about to do everything. I'm about to
just go crazy right now. I couldn't believe it. And
he said he loved my music and that that that
blew me away. Uh, just for him to say that,

(58:51):
I I I d I just I ain't. I ain't
even right now, I ain't eve I I ain't. I.
I can't even explain how uh how happy I was
and how how I had anxiety so bad. Uh, just like, wow,
this is this is my this is Michael Jackson right
here right now. And UH did some did the work,

(59:14):
you know, I did some music for him. He loved
the music. He recorded the songs. And I also had
told him, you know, cause he was kind of like
at that time, he had a little bit of uh
it was a little bit of backlash, like some bad press.
And I told him that what you do is don't
don't don't sit up there and be sad about it.

(59:39):
Do a song back at them, you know, for putting
that that that bullshit out, the fake shit. Oh you
you do a song back at him, you know. And
that's what he did. Uh. It wasn't one of my tracks.
I I can't remember the song, but it was a
uh uh what song was that. Uh it was where

(01:00:04):
he was talking. He was talking ship back to the
press and back to everybody that was it was a song.
Uh uh huh, I can't. I can't get it off
top having a brain fark because.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
You saying that, and a lot of people believe that
the industry, because he had become so big, he had
become so popular, he had become so powerful. You hear
about him wanting to buy this record label and this
uh television company and they just couldn't have that purchased

(01:00:37):
the Beatles catalog. Plus he had his own catalog, so
he had the two most popular catalogs that were created.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Yeah, I you know, out of out of I mean
I can't, I don't. I can't see nobody like stopping somebody, well,
well stop him, you know, stopping somebody from getting involved
and you know, buying this, a buying that. If he

(01:01:07):
got the money to get it, then it is what
it is, right. Uh. But I I I don't know,
I don't. I mean, I just I just you know,
I I think that you know, he was just exhausted
with all that was going on as far as like that, uh,
that that case he had that he was going through.

(01:01:29):
I think a lot of that stuff was wearing tear
on him, you know, and he just just was just
wore out, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
And he had been Michael Jackson for so long. Yeah,
I mean from the time he's probably six or seven
years old. He couldn't go anywhere. Yeah, he couldn't do anything.
He had he had a he had a very lonely life.
He had a life of isolation. Yeah, cause just thin
he could he could. He could never do anything that
a six or seven year old. He couldn't do what
a thirteen fourteen year old do. He couldn't do what
a twenty five, twenty six year old do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
He couldn't do what a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Thirty fourty year old do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
He could never he could never do any of that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
None of it. And and I think it was a
lot of that wear and tear, just like with all
of with all of that, along with people trying to
blame him for different things, it's like, you know, it's
at the end of the day, it just war and
tore on him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Is it true you turned down an opportunity to meet
the uh Prince?

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Uh damn, you don't believe nobody, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
What I what I what what I I just Uh,
it was just I I just thought Prince. I mean
I I loved him as an artist like I was.
I really loved love him as an artist, loved him
and loved him as an artist. The he was just
I just wouldn't you know, just like why do he

(01:02:49):
want me to come sit down with him? And but
I was young, so I'm like, you know, I'm like, shit,
this month might be trying to hit on me or something.
So I'm young, not you not thinking about he wants
his business, come sit down with Go sit down with
this dude. After I after, you know, when I thought
about it later on, I'm like I should have went

(01:03:10):
sat my ass down with Prince and really got game
from him, learned got a lot of knowledge from him,
you know, instead of thinking a different way like what
do he want with me? Like what do do?

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
He won't like what's up? Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
What? What?

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
What you know? But I still was was a die
hard Prince fan, still still a fan of him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
But you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Got a chance to meet him a really cool dude.
Uh just had a lot of knowledge, like a lot
of knowledge and just would would give me a lot
of game on ship like the industry and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
What he was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
He was a cool dude. But that was another one
of those things just being young that I regret not doing.
You know, I should have went, you know, and all
my folks was like, bo, you better go, you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Better go seuper there right, what is wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Like? Oh, man, I just don't you know, and never
get I could didn't get the record clear that I
wanted to to clear for it cause I I redid
one of his records that was me and Nate again,
it was it was a bona fide right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
See now if you they were in Southway, you probably
could have gotten clear.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Sh man. I I was just like, man, I'm I
I just you know, I just I was young, just
like you know what, I I ain't getting ready to
go out there. Shit, I don't know. I don't I
don't know what he wants, what he want me out
there for? Shit? You know. But you know it was
just to have a conversation and and and meet the

(01:04:50):
guy who wants to use some of my music, right,
you know what I mean. But I wasn't thinking like that.
I was all over the place, like just is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
It the other than Prince and Michael and Michael, have
you ever been starstruck? Who else been? Got you starstruck?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Anita Baker like all of the all of the uh
the the the O G h Ogs before me, all
of them. Uh, just like Anita Baker was like I
was like this. I was in love with her music
from the Tiny Tiny Kids, So uh let me see

(01:05:34):
just like all I was anybody I would meet, just
I was. I was like, I can't believe I'm here,
yes Cha Ka Khana, uh, which I've been around her. Uh,
I've been around all of them, Tina, Marie and just
everybody like Murphy, Charlie Murphy's and just everybody, Like I

(01:05:57):
didn't been around everybody and them me being like stars
struck towards them and they like fans and me like like, man,
that's warranty, and I'm like, y'all this is crazy. Yeah,
but it's uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
You did uh Chloe's birthday party? Huh what was that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Like? It was dope? Uh it w it w it
was dope. A lot of lot of uh a lot
of beautiful women up in there. Uh it was like this.
It was like pink everywhere and uh Chloe and uh
Kim came up to me and they they was just

(01:06:44):
like regulateds is our favorite song ever. And I was
like what she was like, that is our So when
I did it, they was just like they was right
there in the front dancing and uh. That was just
that was that was like a dope moment, Like damn,

(01:07:05):
like the the Kardashians love my shit. They like this
is their favorite shit. So that was that was a
h h that was a moment, man, a really really
uh a special moment, just to get that love from him.
And then I seen a clip of her and uh
Kanye in the car and they was banging regularly singing

(01:07:26):
it together banging.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I was like, Wow, what's the wildest party of event
you've done?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Uh? Oh we shit, I'm gonna say this. I uh
the wildest party I'd never been to was uh wedding
wild uh nw a easy in nw a wedding wild.
That was the wildest party I ever been to. That
I well, I didn't, I didn't m I my parties

(01:07:55):
wasn't that wild. But that that NWA party uh easy
and NW wasn't. Wow. That was party that w that
that party was uh uh wild. You know, it was
a lot of lot of Uh. I was I was
a young kid though, but I was I was a
young teen. I think I was about fourteen fifteen somewhere
around there around that time when I went to that

(01:08:19):
and uh w I it was it was good old time,
good old times. It was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
It was cracking.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
And they they you know, they treated me like one
of the fellas. Yes, I got the the the h
you know, a grown man treatment in there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeah, you produce uh jez leave You Alone is there
are a lot of songs that people wouldn't guess that
you've actually produced.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Yeah, what's a lot of them out out there that
people don't they You know, I did Leave You Alone?
Uh for young Jeezy. I've i've uh even even uh
you gotta get yours. I gotta get mine. Uh with
uh mc breed in Tupac, you gotta get yours. I

(01:09:09):
gotta get my people like bo. When you did that,
I was like, yeah, that was that's once again. That
was one of the first records that I had a
shot at producing, and they ended up being one of
their biggest records together.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
But I've done a lot of I done produced for
New addition, a lot of lot of groups. Brian Eisley,
I don't produced for a lot of lot of artists,
even younger or even today artists are today. I've I've
you know, I've been working with a lot of the
younger artists, you know, because my my mindset is you

(01:09:45):
never too old to make a hit record. And you know,
I don't try to just because these guys are young
and they doing this and doing that. I give them
knowledge and I direct them in a in a on
a in a different path. And they called me like
what about such and such and this that this, and
then I'll give him tell him okay, you should do this,

(01:10:05):
you know. So I I'm kind of like a big
brother and as well as you know us working a
business relationship, work business work relationship with different artists.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Have you ever got an opportunity to work with a
M fifty?

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Uh No, No, haven't got a chance to work with him.
Uh I would love to do a record with M
or fifty producer track for either one of them. Just
gotta get around him and play some tracks. You know,
when you heard about em man, it's is white.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
There's a white there's a white dude without a Michigan Detroit.
But he liked that because the laugh white dude, you
probably think you probably think of ll lives. You're like, uh,
come on, come on now, come on now listen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Nah nah nah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
He he he up there. Yeah, when you when you
first heard it, they said that that's him, that's the
one I was telling about. That's m that's a white dude.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Yeah. We was like, who was this white mother up
in here in the studio because we this this was
our ship when they had first brought him around. Yeah,
it was like, who was this mother fuping here? All
of us like, cause this motherfuck he got up in there,
this hard ship, and uh, that motherfucker was busting. It

(01:11:32):
was like a god damn he he hardest. Uh ended
up he ended up being the incredible you know, incredible
and really really uh jailed right into what we already
had moving musically.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Where would you rank im?

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Because people seemed like, because you know, hip hop where
it originated.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
How and so many of us and that they're not
very many. M. He's very unique. We understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
And I I don't think people give him the credit
that he deserves because he he's white and and and
that's our genre. You know, hip hop is us raps
us gangster raps us and so sometimes I don't think
people give him the credit that he deserves.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
He had. He definitely in the top the top, and
he in the top fifteen. I don't I don't wanna.
I don't wanna make it too small like the top tinkers.
There's some dope motherfuckers, uh, heavy hitters, heavy hitters. He
definitely in that in that top fifteen. He dope he

(01:12:39):
he dope he see he Eminem is a MC he
he he he has straight hip hop, straight hip hop.
It's not he wasn't on like what we was on.
We was more storytelling. It was hip hop, but we
was more storytelling and telling, uh a story about our
life and making it like a movie on on Wax.

(01:13:01):
And he was more of the straight hip hop straight
at you battle m see, but could tell a story
at the same time. But it's still in his way
and the and his element the way he do it
in a hip in an m C way, right. But
when he wrote the ship, like the stuff that he

(01:13:23):
writes for Dre and the way, I was like, this
motherfucker right here, he can write this, and then it
turned it down.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
It's amazing because when.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
You five found out that it was Hole that wrote
Dre Day for Dre and you hear m right, like, how.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Did they write that for him?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
And it sounded like he actually wrote it for himself.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
How how did he do that? That was I tripped
off of that thing. This ain't the same for gangsters, Emma,
and then wrote that that ship was That's one of
them my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Songs on that album.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. I was like,
this mother is dope. Yeah. I was like, wow, Yeah,
that's still one of my favorite songs. Yeah, to this day,

(01:14:24):
is is Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
The new King of l A.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
You're gonna have me drug up here?

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
That? Hey, that's it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Yes, indeed, this is This is so good. I keep
down in it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
We're gonna we're gonna see your home with a bottle.
We gonna see I mean, we're gonna see you with
but we were gonna see y'all with with two bottles.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
But as y'all can see, we would getting it in. Yes, indeed, Kendrick, how.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Surprised are you?

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Because I've always thought he's been a great storyteller and
and and but this last year and a half with
the five Brandmans in the halftime show, and and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
He's just going to He's just going to a different level.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Yeah, Kendrick Kendrick UH definitely has has uh solidified as
his his position on the West Coast. I can't say king.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
King right now though he might not be.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
He might not be, Yeah, but he made a name
for himself because it's gonna be hard to break. When
you look at the West, you look at Snoop, and
you look at Q, when you look at Dra and
you look at uh a forty and you look at
some of the guys that came out of the West
Coast park you like he, but now you're like, Okay,
you don't carved that a little you don't carved that

(01:15:42):
little space for yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Yeah, he definitely UH made his mark and solidified hisself
as one of the best to do it from the West.
You know, I can't just say he the biggest out
of everybody there or like ever and stuff like that.
I can't say that. But and his generation with with
right now, with in in his arab yes he's the king.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
But as as him being the king of that younger
generation that he's a part of now y he just
he's the king of that. But as a whole, he
solidified hisself to be one of the one of the
the greatest, with the greatest, with the Snoop doggs, ice Q's,
the Warren G's, the Doctor Dregs, the easy Ease, ice

(01:16:29):
ice T king T. You know, it's a it's a
uh a lot of guys the DJ quick Yeah, like
it's a lot of guys that that that don't get mentioned,
like like all those names I mentioned, and he's one
of them that's in there. He's in he's in that. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
When you got the news that when you started this thing,
you was you him and Snoop. Snoop was doing his thing,
but you and you and Nate thinking thing m cold
or hot up and down. Yeah, you got the news
that he was gone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
First thought, what was the emotions?

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Uh what what when when Nate passed away? Uh? We
actually was on tour and we heard about it right bef.
This was like right before we was about to go
on the stage. We was in uh Corpus Christi, and
uh we just we cried, you know, all of us,

(01:17:42):
just we all was in and and Snoop's room, we
all everybody on the tour. We was all in snoop
room and ere all of us was just just pouring out,
just crying. We cried and cried and cried, did the
show and came back and cried more more and just cried.
Just couldn't believe it, you know. And we went straight

(01:18:06):
home after that. We took off, went straight home from
off the road and went back, went back home. Yeah,
and and and Tabari him, yeah, and uh yeah that
was that was uh uh like it was, it was.
It was really bad for us, like super bad man.

(01:18:30):
Uh well, like I said, we cried, We cried, cried, cried,
cried cause he was so young, he's only forty ket
up here crying. Yeah, but we we was hurt. Man.
It's still hurt, you know, still hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
What do you want this legacy? What do you want
people to know about Nate that they don't know or
they haven't heard of. There any story that you want
to tell so people will get a better understanding just
who Nate Dogg was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
He was a good father. He was a good father
to his kids. He took care of all his kids,
and he was a man of God, you know, even
though he had you know, wrote like he wrote, he
was a man of God. He was raised in the church.
His mother is w super church. She don't listen to

(01:19:25):
hip hop, she don't don't wanna have nothing to do
with it, none of that. His whole family, him and
Sam and his sister, they all was raised in the church.
So he was he was a a a very godly person.
Even though he went through the things, some of the
things that he went through, went to all of the

(01:19:45):
stuff he went through, he was. He was a a golly,
golly person and he was a a great dad to
his kids.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
You been mad almost thirty years? What's the secret? I
hear a lot of secrets. I mean, I've heard a
lot of people that's been married twenty years, thirty years,
forty years, fifty years. And it's gonna be interesting to
hear what you have to say. And I'm gonna see
high jive with what some people that's been married for
thirty years, forty years, fifty years, what they say? What's

(01:20:18):
the what?

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
What's the trick being mad for an extended period of time?

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Just that's like, well, she my best friend, you know
what I mean, we're best friends, and you know we'll
if we argue, Like when we argue, or what happen
if we argue, whatever we go at it or whatever.
You know, I I'll go back myself and I'll say, like,

(01:20:46):
was I wrong or was I right? Was I wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Was I right?

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Or if if she wrong or right? One of us
are a coming say you know, and I'm sorry I
was wrong you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Or or I'll be like you was right? You know
I was wrong about what I said or or what
I did or this that and this and then you know,
but at and at the end of the day, that's
my friend. We be friends, and that's we're not only
husband and wife, but we friends and we joke around,

(01:21:20):
we talk shit, have a good time, we argue. Uh,
we don't let none of that stuff. Yeah, we cleared up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Sometimes we'll get hired at each other for maybe a day,
two days or something, you know, where we still you know,
like you know, it ain't like you you you be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Man like you want to go out to eat.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
That's how that's how, that's how they start back up,
like let's go get a bike, but want to go
get something to eat that I swear to god, you
hit it right on the nose and we'd take off
and go eat, and then when we go eat, we're
back laughing and talking and having a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
And you realize the thing that we got upset about
it really wasn't that big of a deal to begin
with a big deal, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
And uh, you know, so have you guys always been great?

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Because I hear Lebron was talking about his wife Savannah,
and I've heard a lot of people say the number
one thing communication. Yes, indeed, you gotta be able to communicate. Yeah,
And I think the thing is the biggest thing is
that the therapist told me. She said, she she told
me one time, she said, Shannon, she said, you're speaking
two different languages. She said, she's speaking in Mandarin and

(01:22:37):
you're speaking in Spanish. Now, either you learn her language
and she learns yours. So you learn how to communicate. Yeah,
what's not gonna work? Yeah, it's really that simple.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we communicate And
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Honest, you have to be transparent and something bothering. You
got to say what's bothering?

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
You not be but you have.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
But you've been together for thirty years. Probably you've been
mad thirty years, so you probably known her for thirty
five years.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Yeah, and so you kind of know what makes her tick.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
She knows what makes you tick, and you kind of
able to navigate and stay out of those those those
landfill those where those land mines are. You kind of
navigate that. But there obviously there's gonna be times. No
nobody has ever been mad, and every day is a
better road.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Yeah, Like, I mean even the other day we you know,
we we're you know, driving, you know, and uh, She'll
be like, well you need to done that, and I'm like,
wait a minute, hold up, why you gonna try to
tell me how to drive? Wait a minute, I you've
had a fender bender. I ain't never had offend like

(01:23:46):
somebody has hit me. But I ain't never like boom like.
But you know, and that you know that sometimes you know,
it get me hot, you know. So we'll argue a
little bit, and you know, we you know, we'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Mad for.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Ten thirteen minutes and then we start back talking again.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
How difficult is to stay married being in the music business.
You travel a lot, you around a lot of beautiful women.
You're gone sometimes week, two weeks, three weeks at a time,
and she has to run the house while you're out
there doing that. But obviously we say you got to communicate,
you have an understanding. You have to be transparent, you

(01:24:28):
have to be honest. How difficult has it been for
you to navigate three decades of marriage being in the
industry that you're in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
It be a lot of temptation. You know. You just
gotta say to yourself, do you want to risk losing
all of this over here? Your beautiful wife and all
and everything that you build, kids and everything that I
built over here, just over this?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
You know one night, you know of this, to lose
all of that. Yeah, it's just it's you know what
about Yeah, but uh, it's it's just like I just
just I just you know, I just don't want to,
you know, I don't want to. I don't want to.

(01:25:18):
It's not worth it, boy, Yeah, it ain't. It ain't.
It ain't worth it. You know when I when I
was young, though, before our relationship, I was a monster
every preywhere I was I was outside.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
You know. But yeah, she she uh, she a good woman.
And that's that's another reason why. Uh, you know, I'm
I'm good to her as well, because she's she's a
really good woman, and she she really like got my
back one hundred and ten percent. And something I argue
at her about some things and then I come back

(01:25:59):
because I see what she just we were just arguing about.
Then our see what she was saying. That makes sense
now yeah, and I'll be like, damn, that's she is.
She amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
You know, would you have been would you have been
as successful as you are had you not had the
stability of having a wife for three decades?

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Uh mm I p I probably would have went uh
in in a couple of different directions as far as
like maybe getting in the more trouble y Yeah, you know, back,
you know, but you know, sh she kept me sh

(01:26:43):
she didnet kept me out of a lot of a
lot of a lot of uh bs. Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Oh children, how many kids you have?

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Six?

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Damn?

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
H six That ain't a lot. Four boys and two
girls the oldest. The oldest is twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Younger that's one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
The youngest is Royal he's ten. And then my daughter,
uh Lola is fifteen, my daughter Lauren, she's twenty. Uh
my son Neil is twenty two, My son Elarga is
twenty six. See a twenty six you done nothing that
I get him all. I'll be forgetting sometime. You done, definitely,

(01:27:32):
I know, but nowhere near I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Over what t what type of what type of father?
Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Cool? I'm cool, but I uh, you know, I I
uh I still and still you know, like s like
some of the moral I still instill morals like you know,
like we used to have when I was coming up,
like in there, cleaning up that room every day, doing this,

(01:28:01):
washing the dishes, all of that. I still, even though
I'm warring, ge, I be like, go washing dishes or
go take out the trash, go do the you know
I do. I be on 'em. And they they they
they don't they they probably don't even look at me
as Warren g like the the s, the artists or this,
that and this, they like, you know that's damn oh daddy,

(01:28:25):
you you know they cause they I ain't mean, but
uh they they think that the s the stuff I
tell them, like go take out the trash, that's being
mean or that stuff. No, that's not being mean. That's
the way it's supposed to go. Yes, you know, get up,
you need to do this, you need to do that.
I S be on they ass, you know, and and

(01:28:47):
they all good kids. Ain't none of one of my
boys been in no trouble like gang shit or any
jail stuff that they ain't never been to jail. They
ain't never been in no trouble like nothing. None of
my girls, nobody have never been in trouble. And what
tricked me out is they ain't. They ain't the type.
They don't never aks me for like Jordan's or all

(01:29:09):
the high text stuff actuated. I take that back. My
daughters is is they they they ain't hit me here
they hit me. Uh But other than that, my boys
don't they they you know, they don't. You know, they
was kids. They never aksed me for a bunch of stuff.
And I've I've never been like, Okay, you can have this.
I'm'a well getting them anything they wanted. I didn't do that.

(01:29:31):
I I was have 'em. You gotta work for it,
you know, you gotta work for it no matter what
it is. If even when you in sports like my boys,
I used to tell them, okay, if you do this
or you do that, and in your football and this
that and this, okay, I'll give you a hundred dollars.
When they was kids like little bitty kids playing Pop
Warner and stuff like that. You you score two or

(01:29:53):
three touchdowns, I got you. I'm'a give you this, tearing
it up and uh, I get this, you know. Or
I would make him work for stuff. But they would
never be the type like I want this, I want that,
I want that, or never. And I was like, damn,
I'm blessed for that, you know. And they they, you know,

(01:30:17):
they think I'm uh, they think I'm cool. They know
I'm cool because I laugh and joke and talk mess
and uh, you know, I'll be messing with my daughters.
I'll be calling them the baddies and uh, they don't
like it, but they laugh at it a lot. And
uh uh but they they they they they good. They

(01:30:39):
good kids, and they they I just got to be
a dad. And I tell them that I gotta be
a dad. I can't be your friend and let you
do anything, and you know, I gotta be a dad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
So I told my kids, I said, the dynamic of
our relationship willn'tver change. I'll always be dad, You'll always
be the child.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Yes indeed, yes indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
And so let's stay in our appropriate places. Yes indeed,
I said your friends. Hey, y'all hang out, y'all talk
to each other in a certain way. That's fine. Yeah,
but as a parent there needs to be always a
healthy level of respect there. And you know, and as
they got older, you know, hey, it was no more

(01:31:23):
I did demand. I was like, look, you understand, you
know right from wrong. I shouldn't have to yell and
scream and do all the other stuff. It should be
this is what I think you should do in the matter,
which you should do indeed, But at the end of
the day, you're grown. Now you make your own decisions. Yeah,
but you hopefully you've done a good enough job from
birth until eighteen nineteen that when they get twenty five,

(01:31:46):
they get thirty, it's like, okay, yeah, this is what
we should be doing. This is how we should do it. Yeah,
let me get you out here on this one. When
you see a situation like a Dame and even Hall
of falling out with Rockefeller and a lot of the artist,
how do we make sure we don't have another a
situation like that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Uh could just.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Say it is just gotta just gotta keep the business
a little bit more tight. This the type of person
I am, even though, like if I was if I
was in jay Z position. Even though me and this

(01:32:28):
guy ain't getting along or whatever, we we got history, like,
we done a lot of big things together. And if
I see him, just like, if I see him and
I'm like, damn, he sh he's struggling or this, that
and this, I'll try to like figure out some type
of way we can mend. So I could say, look,
let me get you involved in this so you can

(01:32:50):
get this, you know what I mean, Or do this
so you can get get that, or you know, cause
I don't wanna We got too much history together for
I don't want want to see you that way or struggling,
you know what I mean. I don't wanna see that man,
cause we started together. Okay, we had our little falling

(01:33:10):
out to whatever, but at the end of the day, man,
you know, I grew with you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
We did build something too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Yeah, yeah, we built some some really special things together.
So you know, here you go here, here, you go there,
you know, just so you can be back on your feet,
you know. And if I'm here big in there. Shit,
if I was a beg there, I'd be like, look

(01:33:37):
take this, you know. Now, If you lose that, then
something main right, you on your own, Yeah, but take
this you know you should be good off that period
no more.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
What's uh? What's next with warrang g Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Just a lot of a lot of good being business,
a lot of uh good music. I've just got I
just got involved in in UH baseball. Just became a owner,
part of the ownership group with the UH with the
a Loan Beach. It's a minor league baseball team, but

(01:34:19):
it's the first team that's about to be coming from
out of Long Beach. And we I became a a
owner part of the ownership group with that and UH
we tryna make we making the name not trying, we
gonna make the name the Long Beach Regulators. And I
I'm really happy to be involved and cause it gives

(01:34:39):
me a chance to give back to the community by
doing different events and bringing like a snoop or bringing
any artist to there, to the the s to the
stadium to perform for the neighborhood or the kids wherever
you from, whoever show up and it's a chance for
the the team to go here or the king work

(01:35:00):
to build this new court they got, or go to
the wreck and build a new rec thing or go
to the homeless thing and help them and the mayor,
you know, help out with some of the things with
the mayor around the city. And cause I was born
and raised there, so it's like it's only right that
I I give back to fit in that in that way.

(01:35:21):
And then we got something to root for, you know,
cause they don't have a lot to root for. We
got the Dodgers and the Lakers, and you know the
Raiders and and and you know them the Chargers and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
And Raiders below to Vegas now they do. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta, you gotta. Uh when is the new music
coming out? I'm you talking about you working on some
new music right now?

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
We looking well, I'm looking at UH dropping. I'm r
dropping the single by November. Yeah, I'm working on that
right now. I pretty I'm pretty much there. I just
got a few touch ups I gotta do, uh mix,
mixing and mastering. And it's a couple more artists that
I wanna work with with uh before I shut it

(01:36:06):
all the way out. A lot of good music, a
lot of good businesses coming with with the the baseball sports.
A lot of business outside of the baseball, like real estate,
UH and then, as well as still helping newer artists
at UH in the game and and getting them under

(01:36:30):
a good distribution to get their records out there in
a g in a good way. Alright, you know, still
helping out artists, still doing everything and not. I ain't
ain't nothing change. I'm still still at the add it,
you know, like always being, but just a little bit
more smarter, you know you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
But they got his barbecue rub and sauces, sniffing griffins.
Oh warrn J, production, WARRNJ, ladies, gentlemen, But.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Food, you said, are here.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
All my life? Grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, play
the price, wanta slice?

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Got to brow the dice that wad all my life.
I've been grinding all my life, all my.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
Life, and grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, play the price,
and want to slice.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Got to brow the dice that wad all my life.
I've been grinding all my life. Mm hmm

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