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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's reported that this album of yours helped get Depth
Jam out of there. It made over one hundred million dollars.
You're like, yeah, damn, it made that much.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
One hundred million woll No, this is my money.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, All my life, grinding, all my life, sacrifice, Hustle,
pet Price, One Slice got the bron geist swap all
my life, Poppy grinding all my life, all my life, drowning,
all my life, sacrifics, Hustle, pet Price, One Slice got
the bronc geist to swap all my life, Poppy grinding
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all my life.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club shad Shay. I
am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of
Club Shashey stopping by the conversation on the drink today.
He's a music icon, a triple platinum selling rapper, a
Grammy nominated songwriter, global and groundbreaking record producer, pioneer, and
West Coast legend. He helped popularize West Coast hip hop
during the nineteen nineties. He's had one of the best
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rap songs ever recorded, with Regulate, selling over ten million
copies worldwide. He helped get Death Jam out of twenty
million dollars of debt, a cultural influence, a pitmaster, chef,
a husband, father, and a brother all the way from
the streets of Long Beach. Everybody say, judge, here he is,
ladies and gentlemen, mister Warren, g.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Man here do it man, I'm glad man.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
What we started doing?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Warren, Like, when we have such as yourself, we ask him,
not only can you sit down and have a conversation
and share your story, our audience really like to hear
the performers performed, like to do the songs that made
them household names, that made them popular that everybody knows
who they are, and then give the backdrop of how
that story came to be. And that's what you're gonna
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do today. So we're gonna start it off with this.
We're gonna get to started off with this DJ.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I was in Long Beach, California, and this DJ was
just a song pretty much like a young teen story
of a young guy that just wanted to to be
something in life and wanted to go in the right direction.
So it was a lot of pitfalls and things in
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a way, but we're still able to manage to, you know,
make my way in and Bill right. It's kind of
easy when you listen to the gt up sound. Why
your near speaker's rumping, Now the smoke on the pan.
I got the sound for your ass, and it's easy
to see that this DJB Warren she can I get
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in where I fit in? Sit in, listen, let me
come say better yet regularly shake the spot with my
not may faye, because I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Like to dream about getting paid.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I played all through the halls of Cis with Snoop
Dogg's big brother, call him dirt and let rack them up,
crack him up, stack them up against the gate. The
homie is trying to catch me, but they can't wait.
Damn the street lights just came home, and my mama's
in the street telling me to come home like hit
thick gate, and I hop on my swin and I
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tell my homie's eyes and yeah, it's kind of easy
when you listen to the ged up sound. Pin your
knier speakers bump and there's a smoke on the pants.
I got the sound for your weass, and it cg
to see that this DJB vorbren G. It's kind of
easy when you listen to the ged up sound. PI
your knier speakers bump and there's a smoke on the pant.
I got the sound for your wess and it cg
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to see that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, and Dick, So was the original hook sung by Snoop? Actually, yes, yes,
indeed it was.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So what happened, Well, he was signing to death Row.
I was signing to death Jam and uh, you know,
Shive didn't get along with U rustling Lee or he
couldn't stand them, so that kind of like made it
a conflict, you know, with getting the song cleared. So
what I did, I was like, well, you know, if
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if you, if you, if they gonna do that, let
me figure out how I can still record with my
friend and not get taxed for the or get sued
for it. So what I did was I went ahead
and I I recorded you know, the hook, and I
still kept Snoop up under me wow, uh doing the
back vocals. But what I did to his voice, because
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that's how it was anywhere, what I did to his voice,
I made it uh what we call I called it
the g child. It's a it's a an effect that
I put on the voice which make you sound like
a chipmunk.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
So I put that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Under Snoop and uh, they didn't even know it. They
didn't even know it. They know now they do. That's
that's it's it's now. Yes, indeed, So.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
L like when you when you when you started, like,
did you always wanted to be in the rap game?
This was this something or you just kind of like
stumbled into it?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, I I uh, I started out in sports. I
played football pretty much all my life. But I was
still in love with music at the same time. I
was in love with all the hip hop artists from
the eighties, even like Jimmy Spicer, which you have to
dig deep on that one. Jimmy Spiser is a real
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old g from New York, had a unique style that
I fell in love with. So I was a huge
fan of him. And just all of the you know,
like the the Grand Master, Flas, Furious Five, all of
the nw A Eze, all of those.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I was just because you being from Long Beach, LA,
right up the road. And now, like you mentioned, you
got n w A, you got Q, you got Easy Drake,
your big bro who we're gonna talk about a little later,
you got Snooped. So it's starting to the West Coast
thing is starting to get really really big now, is
that kind of what made you gravitate towards it because
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you mentioned long you playing sports long each of the
football mecca the.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I played with with with long Yes, Indeed, I played
with the field of the field of the big dogs.
Out of there will be yes. Indeed. What what really
got me deep into music was my father. We used
to sit my mom. I would go and stay with
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him on the weekends and uh, we would just sit
and listen to jazz, just listen to Chuck Mangione and
a bunch of jazz all there, all day. And you know,
he would he would be talking on this little bud
uh and we would just sit there, you know, and
he'd just be turning me on a different you know, jazz.
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And from there, uh, you know, in the in the household,
my mom made me move with my dad to Compton.
But even though I moved to compan I was still
going back to Loan but she didn't know it. But
that's when my relationship started with with with dre Right
and Tyree uh and my little sister, Shimika, she was
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a baby. Then uh and Werner. You know, that's where
my relationship started there and I was living with with uh,
my dad and uh you know, me, Andre and Tyree,
we all s sl slept in the same room, and
Drey was DJing. He was a DJ mkay, so you know,
we just I'm around all the time and and and
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you know, Tyree and Andre was my big brothers cause
I didn't have no brothers. I only had my sisters,
right you know, Felicia, Tracy and Mitzi and just being
in and with Andre and Tyree having big brothers, you know,
I was inspired by that. Drey was a DJ around
that time with the uh think it was the High
Power Crew and uh.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So that was before the World Class Working Crew.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
This was uh it was right around the right around
in the same the same area there a Actually that
was when he left the uh work World Class Wrecking Crew.
He got into the High Power Crew, which was him
and Easy and and uh Shane and uh Donald and
uh uh Kee Low Uh. It was a bunch of
guys him Djan You know, I used to see it
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all day all night. So I asked him to show
me how you know, one day and.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
He showed me.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You know, we put on the the shay Hem I
think that's what it was called.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Uh, you know, the one that it's time. So he
was showing me.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
How to go back and forth with with Uh it's time,
you know, d Jan and I fell in love with
with you know, I fell I fell in love with
Djan and that along with the jazz and then being
around Snoop as uh as a young kid and a
lot of the the Vultron Crew which I talk about
in this dja A absolutely Uh, the twins and all
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of us just freestyling and rapping. That's the That's what
made me fall and love love with me with the
hip hop and with music period. My dad, the Vaultron.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Crew and drag.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
You mentioned the Voltron Crew in this. Uh this DJ
and bew you guys was selling candy. Yes, did you
make a lot of money selling candy?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Uh? Yeah, we was making because back then it was
it was it was it. Uh you know, we would
make like fifty bucks sometimes some people were making a
hundred and something bucks.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That was a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, it was it was. That's what we was.
That was our hustle. And the crazy thing about it
is we was doing that. I was doing it. My
mother didn't even know it, you know what I mean.
So when I came home late That's why I was saying.
When the street lights come on, old got to be
in the house, so I would. When I came in,
latetenching cors came out.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So I was like, wow, what help me understand this one.
How did y'all get the money to get the candy?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Uh? What we did? It was a guy named Steve. Okay,
he had He was a supplier of the candy. He
was pretty much like the big plug. So yeah, he
was a plug. And he'd give us the bag right
in the sack, right to go to go hustling.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And so how much did you get let's just say,
for the sake of argument your selling, let's just say
fifty cent. How much of that fifty cent did you
get to keep from each bar? Uh, for each piece
of candidate you sold?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
What this is how we did it. At the end
of the day, we bring back the money and we
give it to him, and then he would he would
break us off from there. If I made like fifty bucks,
I probably would get like maybe twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Okay, that's that's a nice look down.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's a nice little come up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah. And then what we would do we would play
quarters get like me, Oh yeah, you know with quarters
get like me.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
We're playing that at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's when big MC value packs first came out.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yes, indeed, right, no, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
The next song that we're gonna get we're gonna here
is I Want it All. So I want it all.
I mean a lot of times when people say they
wanted all, they want it all. They want they want
the nice homes, they want the nice cars, they want
to be able to vagucation, they want a nice looking women,
or whatever the case may be. So what was the
thought process behind I Want it All?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That was it right there? I Want it All was
a record that you know, I wanted it all. You know,
I wanted I wanted to be successful. I wanted to
be able to get brand new socks and drugs. I
wanted to be able to get cars. I wanted to
be able to put my mother in the house. I
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wanted to be able to help my sisters and help
you know, my friends, and just do good things. So
getting it all, I wanted it all so I could
do those types of things. And like I say in
the song the Champagne shit, every damn thing. I wanted
all house expenses, my own business.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
A truck too, and a couple of fenders.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I want it all, brand new socks and drums, and
I'm balling every time I stop and talk to y'all.
I want it all all. I want it all all all.
They said that go warming g with the NBA staff.
Let this game too much. I wish he'd say this
wasn't here. It's a shame. We came too far to
turn back. It's a cold world. Gets so hard to
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learn that from fault, trying to walk from parlers, trying
to hustle up from broke to ball and yeah, y'all,
in effect, that's on me that chi get jeezy. All
my people that keeping reading to do with these Believe me,
young fat meat is greasy. It shit stank.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
So if you mud of look in here the bank
and get away, get gaffled the fairy next day, don't cry,
hold your head up and remember what you told yourself, Homie,
I said, Remember what you told yourself, Homie, I said,
remember what you told yourself, Homie, I said.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Remember what you told yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Boo. I want it all money, fast, card, don a ring,
gold change and champagne, shit, every damn thing. I want
it all how since expenses my own business, a truck
need and a couple of pensions. I wanted all brand
new shocks and draws and a ball, and every time
I stopped and talking to y'all, I want it all.
I want at all.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
In order to be successful, you first have to taste
the feat. Yes, because there are very few instances where
you know, you take off and then you just ascend
to a height and you never look back, and you
have no tumbling, you have no obstacle, you have nothing
you have to overcome. And the process of you wanting
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it all and achieving what you've been able to achieve.
What were some of the things that you look back on, like, Damn,
I didn't need to buy that. Damn I made a mistake.
I wish I would have done this, or I wish
I had have done that.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I was on tour.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It was my first two UH came back home. It
was the bove Fest uh uh al I was a
Al Hayman bloodfest, and UH did the tour. It was
like a three month tour came home. The thing about
it is that I didn't really understand royalties. Okay, back then,
I was just going just doing whatever I wanted to do.
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I never did a like a pub deal or anything.
And so everything was coming to me. So I was
getting checks while I was on the road. In the
in the account I had was telling me one this
came in, this came and so I'm like, damn, I
like this. I I just made me go harder. So
when I got off tour, came home and and and cash.
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We got a six hundred, six hundred uh uh six
hundred V twelve Mercedes band dang big cashed it out
a hundred and twenty thousand, like five right in right
and Loan which the Mercedes. The Mercedes store was right
in Loan Beach, California. And I walked right in there
and uh, drop the cash right there. And uh, now
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that I think about it, I could have been dropping
that on something real estate or something like that. You know,
And but you live and you learn, Yes, living, you learn,
And I'm more sharper now, right, Yes, indeed.
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brother tell the story that you know, coming from Rule
South Georgia, and there's really nobody. We never saw anybody
go to the NFL. We never saw anyone that looked
like us that had become successfu. Yeah, we saw successful
people on television, but we didn't know him. We had
no personal tie to them. So how difficult was it
to you? Because obviously you had started you know, uh
uh nwa and Dre was in that was in there,
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and so you started to see people have a level
of success. You're like, damn if they do it? And
I that's my brother. I've lived with him and sold
you can do it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I can do it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
How much? How easy was it for you to say,
since he do it, I could do it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Uh? I mean I mean it wasn't easier. I mean, well,
I fell in love. I fell in love with with
DJing and want to be a producer and rapper. I
fell in love with all three and.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Uh, it was just, uh, it was just it's pretty
much in me already from like I was saying, like
from my father with the jazz, right, it made it
easier for my ear to understand how good music sounds.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And uh, it was some, it was some. It was
some hard steps there too with you know, with even
with with Dre, just trying to let him hear me
and Snoop as kids, Uh we're trying to be like them,
and uh that was hard because he wasn't trying to
hear that. You know, you got the big the big
guy like him.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So was it a situation where he felt that if
he gave you that opportunity, people gonna say, well, this
is nepotism. He ain't really that good. And here he
just happens to be my brother. That's what I'm putting
him on. And so he really wanted, like, I need
someone else to say that my bro, my baby bro
is really good before I give him that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, and that that's what happened. That actually is right
what happened. One of his good friends named l a
Dre rest in Peace heard are Our Demo two on
three demo and he was like, have Dre heard this?
And I was like, you know, nah, I didn't play
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it for him. The reason why I was around him
is cause he was having a a bachelor party. So
I talked to Dre and he was like, come on
to the come up to the bachelor party. So I
came and uh music was being played and it was
kind of like the same thing being played. So I
gave la Dre to tape, like, man, play this. So
he popped it in and played it and everybody was like,
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this is bang it okay. So they was like so
he was like if Dre heard this. He was like,
Dray you heard this? And he was like, nah, to
here and he was like who is that. He was like,
that's that's worn in his home boards and he was
like that's y'all. I was like, I've been trying to
tell you it's me Snoop and Nate use. I been
trying to tell you they' and he was just like,
you guys come to the studio on Monday, and uh,
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Snoop didn't believe it, you know, and uh, you know,
we was kind of beefing a little bit at that time, right,
you know, but I didn't let that get in the
way of of us, you know, having a chance to be.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Drag so called and me hung up on me.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm like, come on, man, So I had to call him,
keep calling him, like, man, let me. I talked to Drake,
he wants to come to the studio.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Man, let me call him.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
On the three way. So I called him and Dre
was like, yeah, this is this is Drake, this is
I drag and uh snoop couldn't believe it. And that
was like the kickoff to start, you know, on the
whole journey. Right there.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You mentioned that when you got off you you did
your first tour. You're on tour for like ninety days,
and the money is coming in, coming, in, coming in.
You get back home and you got this big old
summer money and coming from meager beginnings, You're like, man,
I want a whill you go plunk down.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
One hundred and twenty bands on a on a B twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And a sixty four Chevy on gold days. Hey, I
at the corner on three wheels on him. Everything you do.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You when you look back with that, and you said earlier,
instead of propping down one hundred and twenty on the
V twelve or probably another thirty on a six folk,
I probably could have taken that taken that got a
piece of property, and that'd have been ten, fifteen, twenty
times what it is right now as opposed to a
car that's a depreciating asset. Was one of was that
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probably some of of one of your worst purchases. I'm
sure you bought some jewelry. You probably got some rags. Yeah,
I wasn't like I wasn't really a close guy.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I wasn't a real super closed guy. Even Jerry, I don't.
I didn't even buy a whole bunch of Jerry. I
had gphon chains that I bought and passed those out
to all of my friends. But I say, uh that
the Mercedes I bought. I bought a bunch of cars.
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I bought the Mercedes, I bought, Yukon trucks I bought.
Uh had houses to houses. Uh, I bought just just
I was just buying, just buying and buying for no reason,
for no reason, for no reason. Uh, you know, I
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I should have took my time a little better not
saying that I'm downhill now. It's just I'm more smarter
now and I understand more I was. I wasn't never
like twenty one years, only twenty one twenty two.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So I was like I came into a lump sum
of money.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Never had that money.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Had more money than I could even even in my dreams,
I didn't have this kind of money.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah. Yeah, and uh, all the ladies, all of it. Yeah,
it was, it was, it was. It was uh it
w it was lovely man. And uh, you know even
with accountants. I even had a accountant mistake about yeah,
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where I was giving the accountant, uh would get powered
returning to sign checks for me to do all this stuff.
So I'm like, damn, why is my money going like
leaving so fast?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like what's going on?
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Oh, we had to put this over here for this
much for taxes, and so you guys taking forty eight
forty nine percent of my money over here and putting
it in this account. And I'm like, damn, half of
everything I was making was going here. But it's like
where is my money at? Like I'm my money is
leaving late and leaving. I'm like, So I found out
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that there was some crookedness, And from that point I
was just like, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
What, I'm not gonna ever do that again.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'll mail the checks to me and I'll sign 'em
and and I'll mail them back. So that's how it
was going when I was on the road, that it'll
be sent right back. I'll signed everything fan bills, and
I mail it back.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Is it really hard to stay on top of that
because you wanna focus on making the music aspect of it.
You wanna focus on being the producer, You want to
focus on being created. Yeah, But in the meantime, if
you're not careful and you turn over a power of attorney,
which you give someone be authority, they're basically Warring g
anything that he could have signed. They can sign any
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amount of money that Warren can take out the account,
they can take out. How difficult was that to realize, like, damn,
I've been got? How soon did you find out that
you had been got? And then what were the stuff
that you took to make sure that never happened again?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It was just times where I was just like looking
at my account. I would go to the bank and
look like, damn, why is my money leaving? Like I
ain't been spending money like that. So I started digging
and digging and talking to people and they like, did
you do this? Do that? Do that? You know, power
of attorney? And I say, yeah, got your problem right there.
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So I had to undo that. I had to undo it.
And then my uncle came in right around that time.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
He would s fresh out the Marines, and he.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Came in and you know, got me out of that
and got me away from from that and and took me,
you know, guided me on the right path. Said well,
you got to get an account and you have to
have that accountant to where you you don't give them
power of attorney.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
So he was giving me all that knowledge.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And that's what that's what got me out of it.
And and it was it was terrible, man, it was.
It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
And how people could just take advantage of people like.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That, you know, young black cat make you want to
do something bad to him though, man, definitely, because it's
hard to come by me here you are the situation
growing up out the majority of us grew up, especially
the majority of people that's black professional athletes or entertainers
or slebs, they didn't grow up.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They didn't grow up with you know, middle class, upper
middle class, so they didn't have it like that. And
to get it and then to have someone try and
take it. Yeah, well you be thinking like who Yeah,
it was, it was. It was heavy.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I Uh, I charged it to the game man. I said,
you know what, if you know the way I'm working
and the way I see royalty checks come in, I
get it back right. So I was, I was. It
made me work harder to make more and that's what
I did. And I learned.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
The lesson a heavy one. It cost you a little bit,
but you learned. Yes, it did this this next song,
do you see?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
And it's interesting because the Bible Belt they last you
for that one. Yeah, they put it on war pretty
good with that one.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yes, indeed. Uh uh. The way the way the hook
went gim me give me one second, fellas.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
The way the hook went on the first one is that.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Uh, you don't see what I see. They was like,
I started getting calls from everywhere like one you can't
do they like on the Bible Bell trip day.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
So I said, oh my god. I was like, I
don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So I got on the mic and I was like,
let me try to change up the melody of it right.
And then that's when I came in and I was like,
you don't see what I see. You don't see what
I see every day as waring Wren Gie, I take
a look over my shoulder as I get old. They're
(27:27):
getting tired of mother saying Warren, I told, don't hear
what I hear, But it's so hard to live through
these heads with these funny bunnies. Ain't shit changing got
my mama want them run their pom gang banging, But
I don't pay attention to those father figures. I just
handled mine and I'm rolling with my off to the
d I your see Snoop Dogg and Warren. She unbelievable,
(27:51):
how time just flies cracking for your eyes, but you
don't recognize.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Now, who's the real victim?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Can he answer? That is jacking all the food getting shot? Yeah,
you don't see what I see every day as worm
m G.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
You don't hear what I hear.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But it's so hard to live through DJs. For you
don't see what I see every day as worms m G.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
You don't hear what I get, but it's.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So hard to live through DJs.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yes, indeed, one did you spend any time in church.
I don't know how you thought that would gonna go.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Do you hear what?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I I don't know how you thought that wasna?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, I grew up in the church. Yeah I thought
I couldn't you they was on my head, But uh
it worked out, man, and it became one of my
biggest singles.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yes, what did that? What did that song mean to you?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It meant a lot, uh because that was that was
me and Snoops. The things that we was going through
before we had uh got into the music business. You know,
it was a lot of uh hustling. Uh a lot
of people we were still, you know, trying to pursue
a hip hop. But in between that we was hustling. Uh,
(29:14):
we was around a lot of gang violence. Uh just
just going to jail like the county. Uh, just hanging
out with all with all our our homeboys that was
gang banging. It was just a bunch of things. Nobody
wasn't trying to sign us. So we was just going
through a whole bunch of like pitfalls, like just back
(29:37):
to back. And so we was doing it so much
and we were seeing a lot of people go to
jail get shot a lot of things was happening. So
I was like, Snoops, why don't we just try this
and and just straighten up and say forget it, and
let's just get regular jobs and try to s see
(30:00):
how that work out for us, and still trying to
do our hip hop. And so that's what we did.
You know, Snoop, HA got a job at Lucky's grocery store,
and I my mom had took me down to a
place called the Southwest Marine where I got hired as
a a firewatch and then moved to electrician. You know,
(30:21):
I did. I We worked, we worked, and.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
All Liotle Snoop, Snoop was that lucky he was at
the stock You know, he was a bad boy.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
M I I don't I think, I don't know. He
was in there. He was he he was in there
looking like special legs with the little airdo. And uh,
you know, we we we we changed and and still
kept kept working hard and and all over the city,
(30:47):
just you know, jumping in the contest. Uh Uh. Roger
Clayton gave us a shot from uh Uncle Jam's army.
He had a club called the Toe. Jam would let
us come in there and perform. You know it was
it was uh Snoop dogg Warren g Nate Dog two
one three in the Big Posse which is my homegirls.
They all was big, so they they was curious, right,
(31:10):
and they used to they used to regulate, They used
they used to they hold it down for y'all hold
it down, and uh, all of that stuff was do
you see you know I just summed it up.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
In the song.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, should I a go back to slanging dope
or should I be maintain and try to coke or
should I see just get crazy and wild? But no,
I chose d create the g child And that's what
That's what I did and and what we did is
musically just working hard, just staying at it.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
How old were you when you were a snoop man
when you're in you know, junior high grade school?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
How old elementary elementary school? Yep, elementary school. Beverly would
walk Jerry, Jerry's Snoops, uh dirty left okay, which is
Jerry's I mean Snoop's oldest brother, okay, is is Jerry
which I call dirty leftin and uh this DJ right.
So Beverly would walk Snooping and Jerry across the park
(32:11):
going to Cis. That's the school we went to elementary school,
and uh, we would all just meet in the park.
Sometime we would go play asteroids on the on the
store at the store on the corner before school start.
But we always was together from elementary school to King's Park.
That that was our home base, our like that's where
(32:34):
it all started to all our friendships as well, right
there at King's Park. And that's what we did every
day was going to school right here across the street
from King's Park. Afterwards, go home, do your homework. Then
we back to the park playing sports or summertime eating
the free lunches or going to cal stak and they
(32:54):
would teach us about football, basketball, tennis, soccer, any every
sport they would showing us. And so we even played
sports together. We played Pop Warner football for six seven
years straight from the seven years.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Old all the way up.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Snoop was one team down for me, but we never
did get a chance to play together. But some of
his plug guys from his team we got to play together.
But we just been together like around each other all
our life. From me, Snooped, the Twins, the whole Boutron crew,
(33:31):
all of us was just from kids all the way
from elementary school all the way up to being successful
right now, even high school. We even went to school
together and that that uh and we still tight to
this day, all of us, all all of us me, Snooped,
the twins, all of us. When did when did you?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
When did you realize that you and Snoop shared the
same love for music, wanted to be, wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
In uh uh being in the voltron crew and then
going to uh going to the high school football games,
being on the bus battling people, and at school at
the rallies, UH football rallies, battling the other artists in
the schools, going ditching school to go to other schools
(34:23):
rally to battle they battle them. Yeah, and UH that
was just showing us like how talented, how talented we work.
And you know we fell in love with that and
that it started. Uh. Snoop had got sent up to
North Long Beach because I was up in North Loan Beach,
(34:44):
North Loan Beach, right there by Compton, and Uh Snoop
had moved his mother, Beverly moved the sixty first street,
so he ended up coming to Jordan because I had
to go to Jordan, because I was in the North
Long Beach and at one day at lunch, I hear
somebody warm and I look and I'm like, Snoop nigga,
(35:07):
what you doing up here? Like he like me and
moms moved up here. So he was like, warn, let's start,
let's go to after school, let's go work. So we
would after school, we'd go right to my house, hit
the record on the tape deck, I'll get on the
turntables and start mixing some beasts together and Snooper Star freestyling,
and we just kept doing it, just kept doing it
(35:28):
and doing it and doing it, knocking and sent the
taps to Carol Lewis and rock Cam airbeing rock Cam
Run DMC. I mailed him personally me.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I mailed all our.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Demos to them. Yeah, did you hear anything back from anybody?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I didn't. We didn't hear nothing back, nothing back, But
I mailed them off.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
When you guys finally did make it. Did anybody that
you had mailed those two, did they reach back out?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Well, you know, once we made it, you know, we
was in the same rooms, you know what I mean,
same shows, same wherever. You know, MTV Awards, right, so
it was just like it was a dream come true
just to be in the same room with these guys.
And we talked, we talked about it, like we sent
(36:21):
you the demo way back then. I'm gonna tell you this,
you know. So Uh it was like you guys could
have had us, uh doing records with you guys, you know,
but it was all love though we were just huge fans.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You guys started off in the group, the Boltrock group,
the two one three. When did you realize or did
you realize us that Sloop needed to go his way
and you guys needed to do your own thing?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Uh? I mean you mean as far as like, uh.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
That he was gonna be solo and you and Nate
was gonna do your thing or was it?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well we we never we never uh, we never like separated.
We was always we was always two one three, no
matter what. Right now, it's as far as the the
record industry that part. Uh they determined that, Yeah, that
was determined by by the record companies, uh, to where
(37:24):
we couldn't work.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
But we did finally get.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
A chance to work after all of the smoke, you know,
that got through all of the the turmoil and and
we was able was finally we finally able to work.
But it was never like uh where you know, Snoop
would be like, y'all, you know what I mean? We always,
(37:49):
like I said, we was always tight. We always moved together.
Now as far as myself moving in my own direction,
where I went to depth gy Man, you know, that
was because death Row with me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
So why I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I guess I was just I was.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I was.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I mean cause because with was Dre still at death
Row at this time.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, he was at death Bro, Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But damn. I mean, first of all, they popped the
tape in. You've been trying to get Dre to look
at you for a minute, Okay, he doesn't. And then
somebody else come in. They pop the tape in when
you had a function with Drake, and it's like, man,
who is there? He said, Man, this Warren jen is homework, Snoop,
it's so forting song. So he's there. He knows what
you guys are capable of. Did you did you feel
some type of way about they like, damn, bro, you
(38:40):
can't even look.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Out for you. Nah, I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't
like tripping, tripping like that. I just was like, I'm
gonna keep going hard, working hard.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
He actually told me, he's like, Warren, you gotta be
your own man.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
This was like we's like with Dre.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I am on man, it's not like you. It'sn't I'm
I'm good on this thing now. But out of outside
you gotta go outside of lokay.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
But the reason, the reason I think that the whole
uh uh you know, I wasn't liked as much was
because I was. I was on top of things, Like
I told Snoop and I told everybody that was at
therethro get lawyers, right, you know, don't just sign any
of these contracts. Get lawyers. So I guess that upset
(39:26):
should and he got pissed off about it. So that's
probably the main reason why, you know, I didn't get
signed over there, cause I was just as talented as
everybody else, you know, production wise, artists wise, uh rapping wise,
even on the DJ right level, I was equal to everybody.
So it was it was it was pretty crushing to
(39:48):
to not be able to to be with my best friend,
uh be with my brother, which is un was like
a best friend as well, but a big brother.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
I had to do my own thing, man.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
And when I knew that I had to go, when
I didn't didn't, when when I wasn't able to go
on tour, when I was like, you know what, I'm cool, I.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Gotta they didn't take they didn't take you on tour.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
No, I didn't go.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
You want you wanted to go? I showed up my
bags and everything was already packed. I was packed, ready
to go, so I didn't even care.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I would know how this conversation goes. Okay, you packed,
You're like, yeah, we going on tour. They're like, what
you mean weak?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
You ain't got no ticket? You don't got a ticket.
I'm like, where is my ticket? Like you don't got one?
I was you crushed?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Crushed?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah? And uh, I just I was crushed. And from
that point on, I was just like, you know what,
I gotta. I gotta, you know, you really gotta. I
gotta look at my own. Yeah, I'm expecting people. I'm
expecting people to do something.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I just got to get it on my own, and
if it happens, it happens, and if it doesn't, it doesn't.
But I know that Warren's going to have to get
this side of the mud himself and nobody's gonna help
him there, and I should. I've got to stop thinking
that someone is going to help me. And I think
that was probably why you was most upset. It's because
you were expecting somebody to give you a hand well,
not a hand out, just get your hand.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Just I pulled myself up.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Yeah yeah, and uh, it just wasn't it was.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
It wasn't happening like that, you know, But I just
I went ahead and just you know, I was. I
was messed up, you know, but I still I still
came around, even though I wasn't involved, I still came around.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And still show love. There was no resentment, there was
no animosity, A congratulations. Are y'all doing your thing?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I was pissed because I wasn't with everybody,
but uh, you know, I had to do my own thing. Man,
do you I.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Mean you was telling guys, look, man, just don't sign
everything blind man, y'all need to get some lawyers to
overlook this thing to make sure y'all not signing away everything.
And then do you do you think some of those
guys that did sign away everything wish they had to
listen to you in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Definitely, yeah, because you know you you don't own your publishing,
you know, and that's the main piece of being a
musician is to be able to get to have your
publishing and own it.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
That's good, that's gonna that's gonna help you eat for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
A long time, you know. And uh, you know that's
what happened, right, you know instead of them getting royalty checks,
they would get like a monthly stipend or something, yeah,
like Higo five thousand like that, when they could have
(42:45):
been getting yeah, a lot, a whole lot, because you
know that was that was vinyl, Yeah, CDs vinyl.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
There's a lot of money being made, a lot, lot, lot.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
And you you mentioned that that sul got up said
with you, man, keep your mouth shut. You messing up
my business.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Pretty much, Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
And uh but how.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Did you how did you know that they should get
representation because no one had hitited you to the game
at that point in time, because you hadn't been signed.
So how were you able to be so far so
far ahead of your time at that time?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I don't know. It was just something something just just
ding like in my head, like we can't just sign anything,
just to sign it. We gotta get it looked at.
We don't know what we signed it, you know what
I mean? And uh, it just it was just something
that I just was like, we need to get lawyers.
(43:44):
And a whistleblower had told uh that. I said that.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh and uh so did Shell step to you?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Definitely? He came to me and uh, hey, Blood, we're
worn out. I took off soon as he said that,
took up and uh uh it was an elevator, so
I couldn't. I couldn't get down because the elevator was
the only way to get done. So I got caught.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
He called me, uh grabbed me.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I was like, Blood, you told him to get lord.
I was like, I said, man, if you don't get
your hands off me, I said, I'm calling all my homeboys.
And he let me go. And uh that was it.
You know, that was it. Y'all had been cool fence.
Huh we had we wasn't. We wasn't on the I
mean we are still we was well okay, we was. Yeah,
(44:34):
we was cordial. But I think that's what really was
why I didn't get signed to death from him, because
I was I was I was sharp about as far
as looking at the paperwork, right, you know, and and uh,
what year was this, like ninety one? That was about
ninety about ninety about ninety one, yeah, ninety one, yeah,
(44:57):
ninety one, because I dropped into smoking ninety two, so
that was like ninety one, right, yes, and dig And.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Then cause Snoop came out what d dog dog the
dog pound dog far what that came in ninety four
ninety okay.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, the uh uh dog the uh dog Doggie dog World. Yeah,
that was a that was nineteen ninety four. Uh doggie
style dog mat I said, doggy dog.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Dog Stack came out in ninety four. Uh yeah, so
that ninety four, cause I came out in ninety four
as well.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Indeed, when Snoop dropped in ninety four, yeah, boy did
he drop, it exploded?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yes, And did I.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Mean his style, the the the the cadence, the flow
everything about. I mean, he had the perfect name. He
looked like Snoopy so ever, I mean it it was perfect.
It was perfect marketing. It was the perfect time. And
when you heard it, you like, it ain't ever gonna
be the same again.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, yeah, Uh, I was blown away just and so
happy to finally see him, you know, get do yeah,
get get his due, and uh just to see how
people people was going crazy over how it sold out,
like in every store it was released. Was was incredible.
So I felt the same way he did when you know,
(46:25):
with his success. I was like, I'm successful too because
I was a part of him and we best friends
and we getting ready to win together. This is how
we get in and uh, you know I was. I
was really happy for him. Yes, indeed, yes.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Indeed because the Chronic Drey's album dropped in ninety three,
right that was that was.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah, that was ninety ninety yeah, ninety.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Two, Well, no, that was ninety That was ninety one,
ninety two, Okay, ninety one ninety two, right and there,
so you're.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Like, damn, bro bro bro dropped that thing, Like did
you because he had been a DJ, so did you
did you know he could rap?
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Okay, yes, indeed from the World Class Record Crew, right,
yeah he was. He was rapping way back then. And
see I don't remember. I just remember turn out the Lights.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
That was that's all was crazy crazy without the colleague.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
He had a song called the Captaine Patch. Yeah, yeah,
it was actually I actually heard it before everybody. As
a kid, I used to hear everything. So I actually
took it one time and wrapped it around Snoop and
them like I did it.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
They're like where you come up with that from?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah? It was like, oh that's hard. The song came
out blew my cover it was cray.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yes, so everything and now everything, Okay, dra comes out
in ninety one, ninety two, you got Snoop coming out,
and you at ninety four, and then here comes you
and Nate. Yeah, pop on the scene.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yes, Indeed, what happened was I, Uh, I was at
the studio one day with Snoop and Dre and everybody,
and uh, Paul Stewart and John Singleton was there right
to with Dre and Snoop to get some records for
the uh Porty Justice soundtrack. Okay, so I'm in the
(48:23):
studio with them, you know, Like I said, I would
come hang out, so but I was still working, but
I would come hang out with him, even though I
was doing my own thing. So I'm inside the studio.
So I f was like John Singleton and Paul I
didn't know, so I aksed him. I said, man, y'all
looking for songs for the soundtrack, and they was like yeah,
(48:44):
and so I said, you know, can we go talk?
You know, So we went to the car. I popped
in a h casette in it was Indo Smoke and
I played like maybe twenty seconds to that, and uh,
Paul was like stop. He said, can I take this tape?
I said cool, So he took it. I said, just
(49:05):
give me my tape back, so he took it. He
took it and like maybe like around that maybe Monday, Tuesday,
somewhere around there. I got a call and they was like,
we want this to be the first single on the
poety just the soundtrack wow, which was Endo Smoke. They
just bypassed everybody else and was like we want this
to be the single. And that was the record that
(49:29):
set it off, uh for me, you know as a as.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
A So that was that was Warren G's introduction to
the world. That was the world's introduction into Warren G.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yes, indeed Endo Smoke and uh that record was featuring
Nate Dog. It was a introduction for Nate as well, right,
as well as Mr Graham, who was an artist I
was working under to build up. So that that's where
our journey started me and Nate as far as a
combination with making great music, right, and that led to
(50:00):
me being signed by Depth Jam.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Okay, they got a call.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
They was like, who was the you know the guy
that that kind of has like the kind of singing
melody too to his voice, and so got on the
I got on a phone call with him. We talked
about it, and you know, I was like I was
already prepared, like, let me call Graham and let him
know that Depth Jam want to sign him.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
So they was like, well, we want the guy on
the phone call.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
They was like, we want the guy that's got kind
of like the singing, like kind of like the melody
rap to him. I said, you know, like the little
like whoa hey. He said, yeah, that that again. I said,
that's me. So that's me that y'all want me. So
I'm like, I'm like, Depth Jam won't me. So I
was like I'm.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Right here done.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah. Le Or Cohn and and Chris Lighty and Tracy
Wapeless flew out to California, took me out to dinner,
and uh I signed And that was the beginning of
you know, me being able to to to start doing
records in the in in the d and Uh Regulate
was one of the first records I did, you know,
(51:12):
cause what I did once I got my advance, which
was it was like three hundred and fifty thousand dollars advance.
So what I did was I went and bought all
studio equipment, bought all studio equipment, went and took it
to the house.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Went out and started doing record shopping.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
And so once I was doing the record shopping, I
once I was, I was getting ready to go home.
So I stopped by roscos Chicken and Waffles on my
way home and get that three piece with waffle.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
I w w.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Was teared the cheese eggs. Oh my god, I used
to tear it up. So I stopped at Roscoe's and
it was a dude outside. He was selling records. Okay,
So I bought the whole.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Credit records off of him.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
I was like, I get I think I gave him
like five hundred bucks. Took the whole old Crater records.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Whether where they were they all new records or were
they used they was used?
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Okay, Yeah, I took the whole crate. When I got home,
I was going through the crate and that's when I
ran across Michael.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
McDonald and the Doobie Brothers.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I keep forgetting, and when I played it, there was
a record. I was like, damn, my parents used to
bang that. Yeah. So I was saying to myself, like,
if I did a.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Hip hop song to this, that would be different than
it would be dope.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yes, you know, And I did it. I did it,
I produced it, I went, I put the I put
the sample together, I put the drums up under it,
played a couple of keys up under it, and brought
it all together.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
And when you start by Roscoe, you get them eggs.
You know you're feeling good. And the guy happened to
be outside said he you got a crate of albums vinyls,
and how much you want for the Hey, don't worry
about I gotta look. Got a little extra change here,
take it. Let me give give me all of them.
So in the process you get to create home. You
going through them, you're like, damn, Michael Donald's doubIe Brothers. Okay, yes, indeed,
(53:12):
let me see you put pop this on.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
I keep who kidding like, damn go hard? Yeah, if
I could, if I could, if I could really do
something in my genre over this, I might be on
to something.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, that's the way I was thinking. If I could
put a song, a dope song over this this beat
right here, I was like, this.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
Could really be different than they could. They could really
really uh you know, put me in and put me
in hip.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Hop real good.
Speaker 8 (53:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (53:49):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I didn't. I wasn't thinking of it like it was
gonna be one of the biggest records ever, you know.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
I was just thinking of it, like because even though
Endo did what it did on forty Justice, Yeah, this
was the one. This was Warren Gee's introduction to the world. Yes,
all across you know, France and the UK, in London
and Finland and Sweden and all this they knew even
though they didn't speak English, they knew this. Yeah, yeah,
they knew this.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Indead yeah regular.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
He want to look at there, black night un clear,
white n woman. He was on the streets trying take
us some skirts, stuff to eat. So about to get
some phone, throwing in my ride, killing all alone. So
(54:59):
one to left, onto one to do. What's some brothers
should and back? So what said, let's do this. I
jumped off the ride and said, what's up?
Speaker 4 (55:07):
Some brothers. What's again, So what's said?
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Stuck and they.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Straight hit the car. I'm getting jack from breaking myself.
I can't believe they taking roar race wealth. They took
my rings, they took my robtes. I looked at the
brother said down, what's next? They got them to my head.
(55:40):
I think I'm going down. I can't believe what's happening
in my own time wings, I would fly. Let me contemplate.
I glanced in the chut and I say my homely
name and one in the home.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
Nay, darling, Warrace ain't have that ready?
Speaker 8 (55:58):
Get that now.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
They got the freaks, and that's a known fact. But
for what gotcham that was on the same track as
back up back Uncovered Toll and Natki and Me, the
woman Ship.
Speaker 8 (56:42):
And Fret.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
And Naked all get into chat.
Speaker 9 (57:30):
Taking into a whole new cheek punk. Stop to this,
I tell you funk on a whole new level records strength,
We bring melody see punk where rhythm is life and.
Speaker 4 (57:47):
Life is rhythm.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
There is no possible way that when you picked up
this Cradle Vinyls and you pulled out that one with
the Doobie Brothers and Michael McDonald that you could have
possibly fathom one wildest imagination that that record was going
to change your life.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
I knew it was a good record, yeah, but I
didn't know it was gonna be that that at all, right,
you know, and even like today, but the new generation,
it's like it started over again, and it's yeah, every
generation is starting over and over again, and it's like wow,
and hey, I love it. But I didn't. I didn't.
(59:31):
I didn't think that record was gonna be this big, right,
It's it's a it's amazing just to be able to
still eat off it.
Speaker 8 (59:44):
Hear it.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
I mean, it's it's uh cause it has to be.
I mean, you riding in the I mean you're riding
and and and and you hear that song come on,
and you're like, wow, that's thirty plus that's thirty plus
years ago.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
One, yes, indeed, and it's.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
Still they played that song. People get up. Yeah, yeah,
people still get up thirty years later.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Yeah. Uh, It's it's amazing, man. I just you know,
I I I didn't. I just didn't know if it
was gonna be this big, you know. I mean, in
the in the process of doing it, what I did
is just even all the way from the samples when
(01:00:29):
I sampled it. You know, I I chopped at each
piece in each in the pads on the NPC sixty
and I when you hear it's me hitting the pads
doom s do doom mum tum m apple boom boom
doom doom boom uh um, I'm hitting pads all the
(01:00:50):
way around. So once I once I built the track
and had everything in sequence and going away and sounding good,
I thought to myself, I said, I need an intro.
So I don't know how this happened. I guess it's
just how God worked. I just happened to be looking
(01:01:11):
at Young Guns the movie. Yes, And I heard the
dude say, regulator, we regulated. We worked for mister Tinsdale's regulator, Yes,
uh we. And I took that the whole piece. When
you hear that, when you hear the intro on regulate,
I took that whole segment and I chopped it up
(01:01:31):
in different pieces. So I took different pieces and I
put it the way I wanted to do it. And uh,
and you gotta be real handed with seals. You gotta
be handed with the steers, you know what I mean.
Earn your keep yes, indeed, and uh that just when
(01:01:52):
I when I listened back to it, and I'm like,
what the hell, how did I How did I think
of this? How did I piece this together? It was
like it was a perfect, perfect combination. And then when
I call Nate, I was like, Nate, I got a
record over here, man, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I want you to come get down on it. So
Nate came over let him hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
He was just like, that's hard because I told him
I want to do a record with him, Like how
Snoop and Drake did just thing. Yoah, let's go back
and forth.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
And you know, Nate was had a he was His
style was a singing style.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
So that's what made it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Even now, if I'm not mistaken, this might have been
one of the because Michael McDonald's was with the Doobie
Brothers and I think this might have been one on
his first his first solo album, and so this was
a big gig normous song for him. So to get
it cleared, you had to let him hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Correct. Yeah, yes, indeed. He Actually he's still getting paid
off of yeah for sure. Yeah, he's still getting paid.
The Bilbie Brothers are getting paid. Nate still gets paid,
I get paid. We still he'll get paid off of it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
So when you when when you when you finished the
priory used to the Uh, mister McDonald, I would like
to I would like to sample this. I got a
great track over it and and here it is.
Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah what what did what happened? The company got it cleared? Okay?
And I was I used to be in New York
a lot, so I'm at Times Square just you know,
walking around us. I used to just get out to
walk around and I bumped into Michael McDonald walking in
Times Square. Damn crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
I was like Michael, like it's Warren and he was
tricking like Warren Geeve.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
I was like, yeah, it's Warren Jeeves like man. So
it was it was, you know, cool to meet him.
You know, we didn't talk that much. We didn't talk
like long. It was just like yeah yeah, so and
then kept pushing. But later on down the line, what
I did was he was performing where I lived at
and uh so me and my wife went uh to
(01:04:01):
the to the concert and uh I told some of
his people that I was there.
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
And so he was out there, you know, doing this
thing performing. So he got to Regulate.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
He was just like, I want to spend a send
a special shout out to a young guy out here
in the crowd. Thanks to this guy, you guys are
still hearing I keep forgetting to this day. And he
made the song called Regulate, so I'm getting ready to
(01:04:34):
do my version of it right now and he was
like Warren g And then they shine the light over
where I was at and them was like, hey, like,
how y'all doing? And so he did it, and then
afterwards they invited me back there and we had a
really great conversation and he was like, man, you you
changed my life, like with that record, you changed a
(01:04:56):
lot of lives. And he was like, my son, don't
even listen to hes he in love with your version.
He don't even listen to mine. And uh, we had
we had a really really great conversation. Man. He was
just so like appreciative, like of what I did for
(01:05:16):
him and the Dowie Brothers by redoing that record. And
I'm just I felt great to be able to to
be able to to do a record that put a
that put a legend already, like to keep him being legendary,
you know, and made.
Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
Me a legend at the same time, right.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
When it's reported that this record, this album of yours,
helped get Depth Jam out of there. Yeah, do you
think and they says it's made it made over one
hundred million dollars, You're like, yeah, damn it made that much.
Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
How much I get ship as I was, I was
like a hundred million where no, what is my money?
Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
I was a man.
Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Uh it was it was first time artists. You know,
I was only making like, uh, I think it was
like twenty five thirty cents of a record. Yeah, so
it was cool.
Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
It was so you weren't getting that, you weren't getting
that big that dollar dollar fifty two dollars a record.
Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Well later after after the success of that record, they
was throwing whatever I wanted, doing whatever I wanted to do. Uh,
So I went I went from I got all the
way to a dollar fifty yeah. Yeah, and that was
great back then, like for sure, yeah, yeah it was.
(01:06:49):
It was great. So, you know, things that picked up,
but that first time deal was just like it was
kind of like like like a uh paying dues. Yeah,
they get you the first one. Yeah. And I'm still.
Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Owner of my master publishing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, I'm still owner of that, which will be reverted
back to me in the next four years, and then
I can all of that will just be me. It
won't go through two or three different companies then get
to me, you know, everything and be coming straight to me,
and then I can license it out me myself. But
it's hard trying to get trying to get your master's
(01:07:32):
back from these companies. It's really hard, and especially if
you do it if you don't have it in the
contract from the jump. Yeah, it's well, it's that's just
standard like after some of them, some people like warn
is twenty five years not thirty five, right, and but
now I guess it's thirty five, you know. So, but
(01:07:54):
it's hard to get them back, you know. And to me,
that's unfair for like a guy like myself because I
helped this company that's under this umbrella become a billion
dollar business here and.
Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
All I'm asking for is my master.
Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
They you you feel like they should have gave you
those things back ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Yeah, yeah, cause I mean reward me, right, you know,
I I did my part, you know, just reward it back,
you know.
Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
But you know, I'm I'm working on getting him back.
Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It's supposed to come anyway, So I'm working on it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Try to feed the process up.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I yeah, I'm I was like, I want him now, uh, yesterday.
I don't wanna wait, not right, Yeah, So I I
reached out a few times and it was like no, Wow.
I'm like, damn, let me.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Ask you this. And and I've heard a lot of
you know, when you look at Michael Michael Jackson Thriller,
I don't believe in my lifetime there'll never be an
album or a song.
Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Bigger than Thriller.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Never when you look at it, and it says that
he became obsessed because he was trying to replicate that,
even though if you for me, as far as musically,
Off the Wall was his best work. Now, Thriller was great,
Dirty Bad was great, and he had others that were great,
(01:09:15):
but Off the Wall for me, was his best, was
his best work. But he wanted to do Thriller. He
didn't understand that was a once in a lifetime. It's
like somebody in baseball throwing a perfect game. Nobody's ever
thrown two perfect games. And that was and he and
it's like drove himself crazy trying to replicate that. And
sometimes when you don't do what you've done, you feel
(01:09:38):
like you're not as successful. Did you drive yourself crazy
trying to do another regulate?
Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
No, I just I never.
Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
I wasn't trying to outdo it. I just I wanna
make great music.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
And if it's something does regulate or does better than regulate,
so be it. But I'm not gonna make myself sick.
I'm not gonna drive myself crazy trying to replicate that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Nah, I never never try to compete with it. I
just I. I I knew I had a formula though
of making uh, making great records. And the formula that
I had, which is the reason why I had so
many records that were successful, like I want it all,
do you see regulate like endo smoke. All these records
(01:10:22):
were great because when I work on the project, what
I do is I try. Now, I this is what
how you make great albums. I try to make every
record I do a single M I try to do that,
cause that makes you do a lot of good records.
So that was my formula with anything I did, I
(01:10:43):
just do a bunch of record, bunch of dope records.
I would try to do a a single. But I
wasn't trying to compete with Regulate. I was just trying
to do a single every time, like d a album
full of singles. That was just my my process of uh,
my formula when I'm working. And the records that came
off of it was was big records. All of them.
(01:11:05):
All of them went gold, platinum, yes indeed, but they
didn't go as many as.
Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Regulated, right yeahs.
Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
So you have to you have to be able to
be content with the work, yes indeed. And that's like
you know what, man, because you know, like you do
a deal and it's not twenty million, you do a deal,
say let's it's just five or ten? Well, man, I
what successful?
Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Damn man, this record wasn't that good? Man?
Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
It ain't Regulate, bro, I mean, and I.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Mean you just just gotta dust yourself off and try again,
just keep going at it.
Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
But if you feel like if Warren feels that I'm
just listening at this time, this is where I am musically,
this is where I am as far as writing. If
I'm giving, if I'm doing the absolute best I possibly can,
I can live with whatever sound comes off.
Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Once it's overdone.
Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
And that's that's exactly how I moved.
Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
I don't, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I don't. I don't like try. I just work.
Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
I just work.
Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
And just.
Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
You don't measure success of one album by the success
of another album.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Each each is an individual project, yes indeed, Okay, yeah yeah,
And uh that's like that's where that formula kicks in,
you know it, Uh to where each one of those
projects with whatever the next project is or whatever I'm doing.
Like I said, I try to make it like it's
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a single. I try to make these every record on
there a single. Is it true that LL came and
pick you up?
Speaker 8 (01:12:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah? First time in New York, I didn't. I didn't
uh believe it was him, cause I'm like, what what
the LL gonna come pick me up for? I ain't nobody,
you know, not yet. I'm just signed, you know, new
artists sign to death Jam.
Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I mean, it's hard to think about artists on Jeff
Jam other than Lell. He built that, He built that company.
Yeah yeah, And I was like I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
I was because, first of all, I was a huge fan,
because he was one of those artists that I talked
about that I looked up to and which inspired us
and uh for them to call my room and say,
you know Warren, you know Warren, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
He called up, was like is this Warring? I'm like, yeah,
this Warren is like, Yo, this is LLL.
Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
I'm downstairs, man, I want to take you around, you know,
take you around the city, man, show you New York.
Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
So I'm like this ain't God damn man, somebody's playing.
Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
So I called. I called one of the twins. I said, twin,
one of y'all, come with me downstairs. This this motherfucker
downstairs talking about the LF. So we go downstairs. It
was him and he had the drop top back. We
jumped in and uh. He took us to Queens, He
took us, we went shopping. He took us to uh
(01:14:09):
where he did his album, where he wrote his lyrics
at his grandmother house. He showed us the how the
basement went down. I mean, I ain't never seen that
many clothes in my life. Like it was all the
way down the stairs, on the walls, all the way
the whole downstairs was nothing but clothes but shoes. And
(01:14:30):
he even had the the uh Suzuki Samurai that he
had Tina had he did that. Tina got a big
old But the that Zuki Samurai was sitting right there
in the yard.
Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
It was old and dusty, but it was there, and I.
Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Couldn't believe it. But he really showed a lot of
love man, and he took us around, got we ate everything,
and he showed a lot of love and and that
right there, it was like, that was where I was
when I was like, you know what.
Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
I'm getting ready to put my foot and all this
music that I do.
Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
You know, that right there really really launched me into
saying I'm I'm I didn't really really got far right.
Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah, there was a quote that you said, you feel
like you were the the Drake of the nineties. Why
why did you say that?
Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Uh because all the ladies like him. Hey, hey, all
the ladies loved warm, you know. You know, that's that's
how it was. I was like that in the nineties.
You know, I was like a lot of all the ladies.
I was a solo artist. Looked good, it had a
fresh fade up now tow up ball, it got a
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lott great and uh you know, but back then, uh,
you know, a lot of the ladies loved warn to
this day. It be you know, i'd be out somewhere,
me and my wife, it'll be a ladies or ladies
(01:16:01):
come up like you was my crush and this that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
You know, their grandma now a warrant their grandma now.
Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
But it's it's even younger.
Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Yeah, younger.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I mean it's like, you know, like thirties forties, like
you know, not that I'm my antique, you know, my
early fifties. Yeah, but yeah it h That's the reason
why I said that because a lot of the ladies.
I was like the ladies man in that era, and uh,
he's a ladies man in this era, right, Yes. Indeed,
(01:16:35):
major label or independent. I just saw.
Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
I think it was Steffanie. I think Stephanie Mills. I
think it's Shaka Khan, and I think Patty Label. I
think they're going on the tour and I think they
asked Stephanie you know, and she says independent, she said,
because the record company is mainly a marketing. She says,
I know what I want, I know what I'm looking for,
so for me in the and then is the where
(01:17:00):
to go? So because all that needs to come to
me because I'm the one that's doing all the work. Yeah,
where are you on that one? You independent or you
you record? I'm independent? I'm independent.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
She right. You know, I can do a lot of
the stuff myself, Like I can go. I could do
the like some of the new records I got. I
could do the record like I got a record with
me and whiz Khalif adult record. I think it's gonna
be a top forty. Taking that record and doing clips,
(01:17:36):
doing like a video of it and then doing clips
and then doing ads with that on TikTok and people
taking it and doing their own versions of dancing to
it and doing different things. That's TikTok is pretty much
your new marketing too, Yes, your new marketing. It's a
marketing too at the Instagram, you know, paying for ads
(01:17:58):
on Instagram even Google ads, Facebook ads, you know, with
just a bunch of clips, just pushing those clips of
what you have, and that drives all of the traffic.
It drives your merch up, it drives your streaming up.
But I I, I, uh, I'm gonna try something well,
(01:18:20):
I'm not gonna even try I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Something different. It's it's not a whole lot different, but
I wanna kind of I wanna try and bring.
Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Back more of vinyl and CDs, cause people ain't got
rid of they CD players or they vinyl players. No,
So I wanna do a special addition. I'm'na do some
special editions. I'm gonna print up maybe five ten thousand
vinyls of CDs and sell those to the to the
(01:18:53):
the Truth fan bess, you know what I mean, And
just to to get that that nostalgia man exactly, because
it's like this the computer world is like, we don't
know how they could change numbers, you know what I mean,
do all kinds of stuff. So just to do that
(01:19:14):
for the fans and give him that realness again, it'll
be different, you know, it'll be different, and I'm sure
a lot of people will probably follow that model. Actually,
I got a few friends that is using that model
already and it's they successful with it.
Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Right where are you On the streaming, I hear a
lot of people say, man, hey, Snoop was one of
the first that that man that's streaming, he's I can't
keep up with it. He's like, they send me a check,
you know, four five thousand dollars. And then some people
like you know, probably getting I can only imagine what
a Drake is getting from streaming because he's doing the
Weekend or.
Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Travis Gott or Taylor Swift to Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
I can only imagine because they're doing you know, it
seems like every time I turn around, Drake is this,
and Drake is that, and yon saying and Taylor Swipt
is this and there that.
Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
So I can only imagine. But where are you? Where?
Where are you on the streaming?
Speaker 8 (01:20:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I mean I don't like it because but I gotta
deal with it because it's the way the way the
business is what it is now.
Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Yes, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
I don't like it because you can't really monitor you know,
those numbers.
Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
You can't. We can't. They tell you that it might
be more. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, and a lot
of cases that it it is more. But it's the
way of the game. So you gotta change with the
way the game change. But like I was saying, like
doing that bringing that vinyl on those CDs back, that'll
give you know, the the true fans something to really hardware,
(01:20:48):
you know what I mean that they can they can
touch and feel because you can't touch.
Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Streams or do anything.
Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
You can't grab that and pop it in your CD player,
but you can't pop this CD in here. You can't
pop that vinyl on that record player and get that.
Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
The last song we're gonna have you to perform is
uh ain't no fun? Yeah, how did this?
Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
How did this?
Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
How did this Ain't no fun?
Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
How did that come about? Uh? Ain't no Well? I
actually walked in on Ain't no Fun. We was recording
that uh village village studio right there in Santa Monica,
and uh, I walked in on it. And they was like, Warren,
you want to you want to do a verse? And
(01:21:37):
I was like, yeah, I do one. But the concept
of ain't no fun was like, ain't no fun if
the homies can't have none were just young teens, yeah,
uh even the ladies like young teens just having a
good time, partying, having a great time, h you know,
(01:21:58):
having fun. Uh and uh and uh, you know I'm
not gonna get mad if she danced with you or
you guys, you know, kissing or whatever. I ain't gonna
get mad. Ain't no fun if the homies can't have nohing.
So it's just like not being a hater, a player, hater,
you know, just being able to have fun and be
(01:22:19):
around a lot of beautiful ladies and the ladies being
around a lot of great looking guys. And ain't no
fun if the homies can't have none of the ladies.
It's still the same way. They sing it, just like
we sing yeah oh yeah when they killed it. Yeah, bab,
(01:22:40):
I can't sing before your old funded up your gap.
I have respect for your lady, and but now I
take it all back a cause you gave me all
your sing. Yeah, and you even let my ball oh wow,
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leadio number on the cabinet and our promise, babybat, I
give you a call. Hey, And next time I'm feeling
kind of hope name, you could come on over and
I'll break you wall. Hey. And if you can't fuck
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that bab baby, just lay back and don't find your mouth. Nay,
I can't have never man a girl. I hope I
got close on that. And uh that was a record.
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Like I said, it was us having fun, having a
good time, and I just hit him with that, hey,
now you know, and help exhal with my flow one
for the money too, for the three they get ready
and foe they hit the switches in my Chevy six
foot rag the big exact on my side and on
my back. So back up because I'm struggling. Just get
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on your knees, is it? Then start juggling the nuts
in your mouth.
Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
It's me woman eating with the crowd.
Speaker 7 (01:24:19):
Whoo.
Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Why if the homies came, It ain't no fun if
the homies came. Yes, yes, I'm dad some people.
Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Having done this now for five years and talk to
a lot of different people that do what you do.
Some people they like it quiet in the studio. It's
just them got the headset on going. Some people like
a lot of people running around, a lot of chaos
and rutgers, some people smoking, whatever the case may be.
When you going to the studio, how do you want it?
You want it nice and quiet. You want chaos, You
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want women running around, You want the home inspire lot
of warm.
Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Wonted chaos, chaos because it's it's when I say that,
because you got you know, you have some people that
like we shaid running around. Some people they't don't even
do music, and this, that and this. But those people
and all that chaos in there, they gonna tell you
what sounded good and what ain't sounding good. The ladies
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is gonna be dancing doing their thing. When they when
the ladies dancing.
Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
You know, you got you got one, and.
Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
They gonna tell you the truth, you know. And uh,
you know, so I like I like the chaos. I
like a bunch of people to be in there. I
like for it to be a good party vibe and
just feel good, you know. And I like to warm
it up. I come in. You know, I have me
you know, uh you know a joint road or you know,
(01:25:51):
I'll have me some drinking, you know, by the way,
some of this good old.
Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
I promise look before you before you drink it. I
promise you that is the best kanyac that you're ever
gonna taste. I promise you. Now, hey, you keep it real.
Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
We're gonna keep the camera roads and saying anything.
Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
I promise you. If that's not the best kanyac. No sugars, no,
no artificial colors. That brown is from the barrel, the
old barrels. That's a sugar from the greats Wow great
and the petite champagne. That's the combination that we use
magnificent wow.
Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Well, hey.
Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Boy, yeah, I promise you one. I promise you. You're
not gonna be disappointed, I promise you. Wow, that is
a different Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:26:43):
That is now.
Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
You say you're on the green, you say you're on
the grill like that, that's what you say. You say
you be on the grill hard. That's what I do
outside of hip hop. So you're a pit master for real,
that hip hop pit master for real? Yes and day yesterday.
I got some food for you. Okay, let me ask
you this. Of all the videos that you've been in,
let's just say that that they weren't.
Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Yours a g than.
Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Jenny Juice, what's your favorite video to be in? What
was your favorite one? You had the most fun?
Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Uh, I'll say g thing it was that was young Warren,
like that was before Warren g Yes, and I was
just there supporting Snoop and Dre and the whole day
was just full of fun, full of a bunch of
people just you know, we having a real barbecue. We
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was out there for real, like really like having a
real picnic, and it was it was just so much fun.
And then they caught me uh in the video rolling
a joint and kept it in the video because I
was like, I'm trying to smoke, so I'm dancing, I'm partying.
They caught me rolling the joint so that and to
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this day everybody still be like wooing. Wasn't that you
rolling that? I'm like, yeah, that was me, you know,
but it was it was. Uh, that was the most
fun I had, man. And uh because all my homeboys
was there. Yeah, uh, Dre d oc Uh, my c
our crew was there. Every I mean it was it
was just all our long beach buddies was there. It
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was a bunch of dudes from Compton, Uh, even Inglewood.
Everybody was there just having a good time. Man. And
was that the first time you had ever been in
a video? Uh? You know what I had? I was
in Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I ain't talking about those kind of video.
Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Well you know, uh now, uh I was in uh
uh was it easy?
Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Easy? Uh? Was it easy doesn't?
Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Not easy? Easy does It? I was in Easy does It? It?
Me and my my uh brother Tyree. They flashed on
us real quick, but we was. We was in Easy
does It right back in the day. Yeah. But uh,
the fun the most fun I had was ge thing, man,
and it was it was I had a ball, Yes
and dig music.
Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
You mentioned that you got a song coming out with Wiz,
so are you gonna is it just a song? You
got an album coming out? So what what's next for Warren?
Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
G a lot of good music?
Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Like I said, I got Me and Wiz got a
really great record called Mad at All. Me and Snoop
got a Me Snoop an Corrupt. Got a really dope record.
It's called The Doberman Gang. Right. I got solo records.
I got a uh, I got a record that I'm
not that's everybody is gonna love this one. It's called
We're Gonna Dance Again. Uh, really really dope record. All
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all the records is dope. I actually got a record
with Little Wang called All Along. Working on that one, right,
you know, to get the clearance on that Wang he
did the record, got the clear buddy, right, my guy,
love you, you know, really dope record.
Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
Me and Nate got a record called I Found You.
Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
That's uh, people gonna really love that combination again, right,
you know I'm giving them that again. Me and you
know never heard before a record with me and Nate
called I Found You. It's a really dope record. And
I just I got a bunch of bunch of I
don't wanna give everything away, but I got I got
a lot of great music coming. I'm still active. I'm
(01:30:26):
not like done with the music, cause you never you
never too old to make a hit record, right.
Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Just constantly working. I'm constantly doing work.
Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Outside of hip hop uh as far as you know,
my barbecue sauces and rubs. I'm a hip hop pitmaster.
I'm I'm doing. I'm actually getting ready to do a
cook uh with my team at up in Alabama at
the Crimson Tide for twenty five hundred people were gonna
go in and and and they're gonna take you come
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days to get ready for that. Well, I'm just a
guy that you know. I'm the guy that tells, you know,
everybody manage all my pit man, my other pit man,
they gonna do they thing. This is when I get
to chail nor like what I did with the food
I cooked, and I did test, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
But I have my team and we get down and
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
I do that outside as well as uh investing in
real estate, you know. So just just trying to stay
busy and.
Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
Do it all because I want it all.
Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Right and I can understand that. Clear this up.
Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
I think there's a misunderstanding. The super Bowl was in
l a doctor dre snoop, I think fifty m Mary J.
And you said you weren't. I don't know if you
were you. I mean, I'm sure you would have loved
to perform, but you were you. You wanted like tickets
to be like have your son, you want to take
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your son, and you wanted to be on the field
so your son could see that up closer. Yeah, and
that wasn't able to happen. Was there a misunderstanding? Was
there late communication?
Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
What what? Claire? What actually happened? Did you did you?
Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Did you put the ticket in a timely manner?
Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
You definitely you can't wait till the day before the performer?
Speaker 8 (01:32:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
No, no, I uh, I mean you know I talked
to some people and and we were supposed to connect.
Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Once I got there and everything just went went blank.
And I was sitting in the in the uh in
the regular in the stands, and.
Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
People was like, what are you doing? What you're doing
up here? Like even like like I think I seen
Steven A and a couple of other cats, like they
was like, what what you're doing up here and uh no,
that was Nate Nate Nate bir. He was like, what
you're doing up here? You're supposed to be down there performing.
I was like, you know, I'm not performing. I'm just
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here to you know, here.
Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Just here to support brod. Hey, I'm just happy to
be in the house, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Yeah, and uh but it was just it was just
the communication just wasn't right, you know, and uh.
Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
In two years, you know it's bad. I think it's
back in l A. And next year, yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
But at overall, I wasn't like bitter about performing or
anything like that. I was just there to support and
I just wanted my son to be yeah, one of
your best friends see everybody. And uh, it was just
like the ship wasn't happening and I'm hitting everybody. We
was talking and ship before all this, and now I
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can't get everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
Ship shut down.
Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
So I was like I was pissed off, but you know,
I got over it. You know, I wasn't you know,
I wasn't tripping, But it was just like that was
just the one thing that you really would wanted your
son to yah.
Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
I wanted him to get down there because he was home.
He from home from camp.
Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Uh what was it?
Speaker 8 (01:33:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Whatever it was, I think they had a by the
uh cause he had he played f I with the Bills, Okay,
so they had a bys So he was at home
or w it whatever it was. He was all for
like a I think a f A A a f
a week or some a few days something like that.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
But he was at home, so this was happening, so
I wanted him.
Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
I don't know. It actually couldn't have been a bye,
right the season.
Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
Was over it, Yeah, so he was home from uh
from the from the season, right, and.
Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
So just taking him out, just taking him around and
letting him hang out, you know, we hanging out together,
you know. And I wanted him to really see right,
you know, everybody up close, up close and meet everybody
and see his is all his family and it the
whole nine. And it just didn't happen. But you know,
like I said, I'm not I ain't bitter about it, uh,
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and wasn't bitter about performing or you know, none of that.
You know, it would have been good. I would've loved
to do it, but hey, it it didn't happen. But uh,
you know, I ain't tripping off of it. I was
just pissed off. We didn't get the chance to be
down there, down and so I was I was mad
at everybody but you, but you.
Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
But you put that past you now, because then there's
too much there's too much great history because a lot
of times, one a lot of times people will forget
the thirty great years that we've had. In that one
instance ruined thirty years.
Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
And I'm not for me.
Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
I can see if it's thirty years a bad and
one good time as a Nah, one good thing can
to raise thirty years, but one bad thing can to
raise thirty years.
Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
In my eyes, Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Yeah, So I'm gonna get this this. Uh how did
you go from.
Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Music to So?
Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
You know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be a cook. I'm gonna
be a pit master. I've always did it always, So
you've always been in the kitchen like that always. My
father he used to just cook. My dad used to
cook at a lot of family functions and just watching
him and being around and the fun times we would have,
(01:36:06):
you know, with cousins and friends at the reunions and
good food we eating good food. It just stuck with me.
So even before I was warned, Gee snooper tale you
like all of them would tell you. I used to
just cook. I would cook everywhere we was at hustling,
no matter what it was, just to ease ease the
pain of things. I would cook and play good music. Right,
(01:36:28):
And I kept doing it, you know, kept on and
kept on. And a lot of my friends was just like, warm,
you need to come out with a product. All you
do is cook. You a barbecue guy, you a pitmasters.
Why don't you come up with some sauces and rubs.
So talked to my pops, UH, talked to a few
of my other friends that chefs, and they they act.
(01:36:51):
They helped me put everything together from all the way
from the saucers to the rugs. Did a few tastings,
UH taste a different rub, went into spice companies. UH
went in to formulated formulation companies as far as the sauces.
To sit down and tasting everything until it came it
was to my liking, and.
Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
All of that stuff just you know, and food ain't
going nowhere. It's a good it's a good business.
Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Ben And I just I just was like, man, this
is something I really love to do with And it's
a peace of mind for me to barbecue and and
and just sit down and listen to good music, have
a beer, smoke a joint, barbecue, chill, have a good time.
Do you eat pork? Yeah, well, I didn't want to
(01:37:44):
cook no Muslim reserves one weekend out of the money,
two weeks. Yes, today.
Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
I didn't want to get bring.
Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
No pork, but you ain't cooked.
Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
I pulled it off. I pulled it off. I brought
I brought some some Uh it was. I had to
go hide and fast, but I made it happen.
Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
I got some pork ribs.
Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Yeah yeah, I eat yeah, some pig feet yeah, bacon,
yeah yeah, pig oh yeah, pig.
Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
No. I ain't gonna lie. Every year I eat some chill.
I eat some chiller every every holiday season. My sister
cook him and then I eat them.
Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Make you you you were you dry?
Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
You like to do this? This?
Speaker 8 (01:38:43):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
This is this is uh?
Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
This is a dry rub.
Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Yeah, dry rub pretty much that one right? There is
more for uh for pork, turkey, chicken, seafood. Yeah yeah,
you could put it the seafood as well, and then
they not too hot. I mean you you ain't got
too hot? Do you not? Sometimes? No that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
No, I can't taste it.
Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
It ain't good if it's too high, it's not it's
not soup. It's not like burning hot. I uh, I
gotta we bring seat that's got a little kick to it.
But it's it's it's really good. So this is so
where where can they find this? Sniffing Griffin's BBQ dot com? Okay, yes, indeed, yes,
indeed this it's a really good original. Yes, indeed, this
(01:39:32):
is the dry rub, the original barbecue.
Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Yeah, and this one? Uh so which which one is?
Which one is your best? Which one do you like
the best? This is all purpose rub right here?
Speaker 9 (01:39:43):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
All of them.
Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
I mean I use this one, the all purpose a lot,
because I could put it on in and everything I
put it on, even fruit. I put it on fruit,
I sweat it out. I put it on my fruit,
my egg whites, and that ain't it all vegetables, everything,
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No matter what I put it on.
Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Everything, So telling, so telling, So tell the people at home,
what did you what did you prepare to day?
Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Well? Today I did some uh beef flanking ribs it's
a cut instead of having the big giant that Dinald
not the dinal one inch cut of the dinald rib,
but they wanted one inch cut. And then I did
some bonler scalless thigs. And then I did some uh
(01:40:33):
some uh uh spare ribs okay, yes indeed, and some
uh mac and cheese t te's mac and cheese. I
got some potato salad. Uh some good some good food.
We can we can, we get it.
Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
We're gonna break it out.
Speaker 7 (01:40:48):
Yeah, thank you, yes, indeed, y'all gods, Yeah, all right,
that's uh.
Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
These are beef flankings, okay, Like I said, the thin
cut of the rib, and then you have the spear
ribs right here, and then you got the the uh
boning scaling stars mac and cheese he tees mac and
cheese and potato salad. All right, yes, indeed, let me.
Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Said my grace right quick, mha, oh which one?
Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
What's what should I try? First?
Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
Mac and cheese?
Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
You could try the mac and cheese goad.
Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
Oh yeah, I'm get a little bit both right quick.
Oh yeah, macon fee, I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
Oh yeah, mhm hmm.
Speaker 10 (01:42:03):
Figure bone skim Oh yeah, yeah, you did it. Oh yeah, yes,
mm hmmmmmmm.
Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Oh man, this beef rib the bone slog and bite through,
not fight through.
Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
Yeah here all right, mm hmm yeah man. I mean
like I was on the plantation for a couple of days.
I ain't had nothing de sense earlier morning. But you
(01:42:39):
did your things with this nothing know, All things being equal,
I like pork ribs better. I like beef ribs because
my most everybody and I want to do the din
though that's too much.
Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
That's too I can't eat that.
Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna here. It's little pope, but now.
Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
I do a little long with it. Let me see.
Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
You made the potato side of two. Yeah, I I
hat the biggest potato side of fam so.
Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
It's it's got a got a twist two of it.
Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
I like to look kick.
Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
I like a little.
Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Guess what I use in it? Some of it, some
one of the ingredients.
Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
It do got nice little not a little twain like
a little And I hated the bigger potato side of Yeah,
but I'll deal with it.
Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Y'all trying to fold Yeah, oh yeah, mm is biggy
sauce on it.
Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
I'm gonna sauce. I'm good. Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
Kicking Tato, sally Port ribs, bac and cheese. Like I said,
I'm not a big beef. I'm not a big beef. Yes, indeed,
but the but the but the beef ribs they're they're
very tender. M I mean they're very, very very Yes.
(01:44:23):
So when you when you travel, do you make it
a point to try to go to different cities and
try their barbecue?
Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
Yes? Indeed, every city I go to every s because.
Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Because you want to see if there's something could I
do something different, if there's something I could add, maybe
I need to take something out. So obviously you know
what what what what cities have the best barbecue? Uh, Austin, Austin, Texas.
I fear a lot of them on the on the
Food Channel. Yeah, but I see them on on i G.
(01:44:56):
People talking about Austin.
Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Yeah, they got a lot of they got a lot
of good Uh, they got a lot of good barbecue.
Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
It's a spot called Goldies that.
Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
That I like. Actually, I met a lot of a
lot of these guys. I met him personally, the pitmasters,
and I've talked to him. They've gave me pointers on
smoking meat and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
Yeah, So I mean to be good.
Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
I mean, for the most part, to be really good
at this, you gotta be doing this for some years. Yeah,
I'm talking about years and years most of it, and
uh most of them. If you're not if you're not overweight,
I don't even want. I ain't try to eat no
barbecue because, uh, that means you ain't eating your barbecue.
Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
Yeah, if you cook it like you say you cook it.
Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
Yeah, yes, indeed, I mean it.
Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
It's it definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
It's a lot of it takes, you know, a lot
of patience, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
Cause you know, you gotta prep it. You gotta let
it marinate this long, you know, slow, low and slow.
Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Yes, indeed, so that's why it, like the beef is
so tender.
Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Oh yeah, the beef. The beef literally literally literally you
just like, yeah, you checking it off the bone. Yeah, chicken,
it's all. It's very it's very tend to bite through,
not to fight through.
Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
That's what I call it. So well, what sauce did
you put on the ribs?
Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
I put the old g rub on the pork ribs, Okay,
I put the all purpose on the the beef flankings
and the chicken. I used the old g rub as
well okay. And then with the potato salad, I I
and put the potato salt together and I I mixed
my uh all purpose. Then with the potato salad as well,
(01:46:51):
and then that's TT mac and cheese.
Speaker 8 (01:46:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
is also and you can access it to whichever podcast
platform you just listen to part one on. Just simply
go back to club Shay profile and I'll see you there.