Club Shay Shay - Wiz Khalifa Part 1

In the latest episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe sits down with hip-hop icon Wiz Khalifa for an unfiltered conversation about his groundbreaking career, entrepreneurial ventures, and cultural influence. Known for hits like "See You Again" and "Black and Yellow," Wiz reflects on his military upbringing, which shaped his adaptability and global perspective. From his early days in Pittsburgh’s underground rap scene to worldwide stardom, Wiz takes us on a journey of growth and transformation. Wiz opens up about his childhood, moving across the globe as part of a military family, and how these experiences helped him connect with people from diverse backgrounds. He shares his path to success, from grueling promo runs and artist development to finding his voice during a brief stint with Warner Brothers before reinventing himself. He also reflects on pivotal moments in his career, including being part of the 2010 XXL Freshman Class with J.Cole, Nipsey Hussle, Big Sean, and Nicki Minaj and how social media helped him build his image and connect with fans. Wiz recalls his friendship with the late Nipsey Hussle and their legendary times together. The episode also explores his role in reshaping the cannabis industry with his brand Khalifa Kush and his smart investments, such as his partnership with Liquid Death. Wiz shares his thoughts on hip-hop rivalries, from LL Cool J and Kool Moe Dee to the ongoing tensions between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. He offers his unique take on how these rivalries reveal deeper truths about industry dynamics. The discussion also touches on the cultural impact of the Super Bowl halftime show, including Lil Wayne’s response to Kendrick Lamar headlining the upcoming event in New Orleans.Wiz dives into his financial journey, emphasizing the importance of smart investments and avoiding frivolous spending. He shares how his business ventures have helped turn his lifestyle into a money-making machine.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did drake take it too far? He suing the man.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Nah, I mean that sound like a drake moved to me.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice hustle, p Prison,
one Slicet Bros All my life. I'p be grinding all
my life, all my life and grinning all my life, sacrifights, hustle,
pet Pryson, one Slice, Doctor, Brother Geist all my life.
I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shape. I
am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of
Club sha Shade. The guy that'stopping buy for conversation on
the drink today is one of hip hop's most influential
and recognizable and my rappers in the world. He has
one of the most streamed songs in their history, See
You Again. A multi platinum and diamond selling hip diamond
selling hit maker, Grammy and Golden Gold nominated artist, award

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winning rapper, singer, songwriter, vocalist, MC A multi talented actor, composer, musician, entrepreneur,
executive and entertainer, a global and a pop superstar, a
cultural icon, a marijuana connoisseur, and he's an aficionado, upset product,
a veteran of the grain, A proud dad areas whisky whiz.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
What's something man?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Man? Man? Good?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Thanks for joining us. Man. I know you're bus and all,
so I appreciate some of your time.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Man, I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
You got you got your Uh you want to tell
you what you got? What? What you what? You what
you want?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So this is Liquid Death. This is a water company
that I've been investing. You invested in that, okay, a
long time ago. This is mc queen. This is a
liquor company that I'm investing. Okay, I figured we all
just hang out together.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay, that's that's no problem with that. So this is water.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, yep, this is will Ash. You be drinking at
the Jordan, man. I thought you were getting drunk on
the sat. That's why people like it because it looked
like a beer.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Right slily member if they still make it. But he
used to come in.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Look look look like a tar boy. Yeah it's a
little water, you know what I'm saying. We got to
deal with Live Nation as well. So like all of
the venues that Live Nation throws concerts, anything at you're
gonna get liquid death there. Wow, there's a lot of clubs.
He's selling it in gas stations.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yes, yeah, I did not know that was water. I
was wondering why people like, damn y'all drinking in the
middle of that. It's crazy because I give my son that,
he'll go like his game. He's crushing it on the side.
Dude's sitting and drinking beer. But you also have a
product that, yeah, Khalifa Cush.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I have a weed company as well. Khalifa Cush
is named after me, and it's grown off of my expertise.
So the mainstrain is the Khalifa Cush, but we have
other flavors too. There's Violet Sky, Baby Turtle, Khalifa Men's
as well.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Right, yeah, yeah, let's go back to it all started
your mom and you were and your mom your parents
were in the military.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
So you moved around a lot. You moved around more
than a Pentecostal minister family. So how difficult was it
to make friends because you weren't a location very long?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Right? It wasn't really difficult for me to make friends.
I've always been in type to kind of just you know,
band blend in. Yeah, you know, I could I got
friends from down south. I know how they talk, I
know they slang. I got family in New York. I
could get down with them. I got family. You know,
I'm from Pittsburgh, so it's like I'm out here in LA.
You know what I mean. I learned how to you
know what I'm saying. You learn how to just get

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down with the folks who are around.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Did it Like, Okay, you're on a location for two years,
you get these great friends. You're like, oh yeah, man,
that's that's my boy. And the next thing, you know,
you up and move.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Got to bounce. Yeah. Anybody who's in the military family,
they know what that's like.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think like the older that I got, it was
like damn, I really ain't got no friends from my childhood.
But like back then it was normal to me. So
I just I just did what I had to do.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Like when you're bouncing around, do have you ever had
any of those friends that you like when you was
like seven, eight, ten, twelve, thirteen fourteen, Do you still
have any of those people that you like was cool
with back then.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I don't really got like too much contact with her now, Like,
but if they come to a show, or they want
to pop up. They're like, Yo, that's Cam from blah
blah blah. I still remember Okay, do you Okay? Hell yeah?
So we could vibe out, like I still fuck about
my partner, Tyrese. I was cool with him in like
seventh grade, Okay, me and him, we still got contact
with each other.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
You were North Dakota, South Carolina, Georgia, Oklahoma, Germany, in
United Kingdom, Japan, Pittsburgh. Let's take a couple of these
these states and see what you remember most and what
you like most about them. Let's take North Dakota because
you might be the first and only black person I've
ever met that have lived in North Dakota. So I'm
very interested to know what that was like for you

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growing up as a kid.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
I don't remember shit about it. I don't. Yeah, my
dad told me it was hellicole.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
What about Oklahoma? Oklahoma was fun?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I played a lot of basketball down there. I chased
a lot of girls down there. That's why I first started,
you know, recording my music. Okay, so that's when I
learned how to you know, get my studio ediquette and
all of that.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
What part of Oklahoma outis Oklahoma Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
My stepmother was stationed down there, Okay, and my father
opened a studio down there, so that's how I was
able to like start practicing and shit like that.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Germany, United Kingdom, what was What is it like for
a kid being overseas? Yeah, you're in America, obviously you're not.
I mean, you probably learned the language, and but there's different.
The culture is a lot different over there than it is.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah. Yeah, let me think. Really I was. I was
a baby, so I was like really around my parents, yeah,
most you know what I mean. And then like for
like for real, for real, my parents divorced like when
I was younger, so my only memories of them kind
of together was overseas. Yeah, and then like that's where

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my dad met my step mom as well, and she's
still in my life till this day. So I remember
that as far as the overseas as well.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Oh, the places that I mentioned the North Dakota, South Carolin,
out of Georgia, Oklahoma, and Germany, United Kingdom, Japan. What's
your favorite what's your favorite place? Do you have any
farm members? Do you go back over there? Obviously when
you're traveling or you're touring, do you remember anything about
these places.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I remember a lot about Japan and Oklahoma, but Japan,
I was it was more. It was a different experience
because I was on a millionaire base. Yeah exactly. But
just being a kid there, it was fun as hell.
It was super duper fun. But my favorite place out
of all of them is always going to be Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Really.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, That's where my fastone is at. That's home, like
you know what I mean, That's what I really connect
with the most. And every time I would leave and
come back, it was always to Pittsburgh. So I would
leave Pittsburgh, go somewhere and then come back. So anywhere
that I always went, I was always the kid from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's what. That was the question that I was going
to ask you.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Of all the places that you live, what was the
best place, where the funnest place where you have your
fondest memories? And you mentioned Pittsburgh. So how much time?
So how old were you when you got to Pittsburgh?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Shit, I was probably like two years old? Okay, yeah, yeah,
I was too the first time I was there, and
then I was there for maybe like a year and
a half or two. Then I moved away for two years,
and then it was on and off like that every
two years until I was like thirteen years old, right,
and then after I was thirteen, I was pretty much
there to I was an adult.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Okay, yeah yeah in Japan? Did you did you speak
the language? Were you fluent?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
They had us going to like this little Japanese class,
not even a Japanese school, but it was a class
that we used to take that taught us like basic
shit like conichi wi, like how to count to ten.
But like that's really it. What about the food? I heard,
you know because the sushi, I mean you eat sushi? Yeah? Hell?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Because see that was that clearly obviously it originated there.
And so did you understand the did you understand the culture?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I did, but I was really young. I was a teenager,
so like more now I would be on some player shit, right,
I was like a little player back I was playing basketball.
I wasn't you know what I mean. Now I'm a
big old player. Be a different experience.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
So when you go to a Japanese restaurant, you, I
mean you can look at the menus like okay, I
want this, I want this, so you kind of know
what what you do Japanese cousin.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, for sure. I know what I like, and I
know what I'm willing to try, and if I don't,
then I'm just gonna ask you. Like and if you
say some ship that I ain't really eating and we
ain't doing it.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
But they eat live stuff over there too, right.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Eat like octopus and frogs and all that ship.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
But I've had frog before, a frog leg, not the
whole damn frog, just the leg, not the whole frog,
just the leg.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
The legs will be sticking out, the whole frog will
be in there. They go crazy over there. Yeah, I
didn't eat that.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Right, So what's the regular So what obviously you can
get sushi over there, So, but what's a regular meal?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like they eat a lot of rice.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, a lot of rice, like they do like beef bowls,
like beef and rice, like fish, rice, chicken and rice.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Just regular stuff like that they eat. I mean, they
eat pretty clean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
They don't have like a lot of unless it's American,
but they don't have like fast food and things like that. Okay,
so it's pretty clean, right yeah. Yeah, student in school?
So what type of student were you? I was the
one who like was it's smart, very smart, had a
lot of potential, but very social.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah you jack it around.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah yeah for sure. As soon as I get settled
in and like I find some homies, yeah we're cutting up,
you know, like for sure one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
So you mentioned earlier like you you're a big player,
but you're a little player back then.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
So you've always kind of been in the girls house.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah for sure, hell yeah, yeah, yeah definitely. That was
always my thing, was just being smooth, right, being cool,
you know what I mean. I love females. I used
to write girls letters and shit, Like I played sports
with the homies, but I wasn't like a jock, like
you know what I'm saying, So I had to be
like good with my words and shit. So yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
So being young and courting the women, trying to come
up with Like you said, you're not an athlete, so
you have find a different way to approach them.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Did that help you become the writer in music that
you are now?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't know. I think maybe like it just helped
my confidence, like wild writing right because like I had
something to write about, Like it wasn't I wasn't always
trying to be like the toughest out there. I always
wanted to make some shit in like for the ladies,
you know what I'm saying. And I think like just
knowing what women like and talking to a lot of girls,

(10:30):
like even not even just trying to date them, just
talking to them on a friend level, just figuring out
what girls really like, right like that definitely is an
advantage that you know, I always had.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
You said you wrote love letters. You think any of
them still has no love for show?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
They're gonna put them on. They're gonna put them on
for sale.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
They better know. They better just show people like them shits?
Is really the better I used to say, Yeah, yeah,
my letters was very valuable.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Right even back then, you mentioned that you you played
sports with the homies, but you were not You didn't
play anything that was organized like basketball or football and baseball.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
They played a little bit for like school and like
for for the base or like for the youth center
and shit like that. But it was just like on
and off. It wasn't anything serious. I've never been to
new camps or nothing like that. It was just like natural,
just fun shit. But you but you, but you liked sports.
You just didn't play them competitively like that, right, Yeah,
I played up to a point to where everybody else
got good, and I was like, you know, I'm gonna

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just i'ma go get over here and do something to music.
And also I started seeing like breaking their legs and
shit like that in school. I was like, man, trying
to be in crutches and ship like that. I'm gonna
go ride a rap.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
You mentioned that your parents got divorced at a very
young age.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
What type of impact whirs did that have on you?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think it was probably better for me, really, yeah,
because my parents are really too strong personalities argued a lot. Huh,
they just you know, they're better, But yeah, they're just
way better apart. And like I was able to have
a really good relationship with both of them, Like I
have a great relationship with my dad and my mother,
and you know, they might have been in jail if

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they stayed together. So yeah, I'm glad they broke up.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Having been a kid with devorce parents, what type of
advice would you give kids that if their parents, because sometimes,
like you said, it didn't impact you and you realize that,
you know what I think, y'all. I love both of
you guys, But you guys are much better apart than
you are together, right, But some kids.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Don't take it like that.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Some kids hold that against one parent or the other, right,
you know, sometimes they blame the father, sometimes they blame
the mother, and they carry that with them. What type
of advice would you like to give kids that are
going through parents are divorcing.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Man, it's cloudy because you really don't get to see
the results until later. And a lot of the times
I would say, like you just got to give it
time because you never know, Like you might have a
father who can't really be the father that he could
be while he's in a relationship, and you might have
a stronger relationship with your parent while they're not together

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rather than them being together. But you really don't know,
and you can't see it that way, and you don't
see it from their perspective of like what they are
and aren't able to do, you know what I'm saying
in a relationship versus out of a relationship. So as
long as you know, the love is still there and
everybody's like, I'm a very responsible parent. My parents are responsible,
but they they went through shit too, Like you know

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what I'm saying they needed time to grow, so you know,
you got to give them that grace and kind of
you know, just rock with them.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Bro where you know, sometimes you see parents where one
parent try to turn the other the kid against the
other parents, right, and they will say and it's maybe
not like, oh it's your dad or it's your mom,
Well what did y'all do?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Are you hunger?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
You know, they're saying thing to try to contaminate the
kid's mind to feel some type of way about the parents.
But I'm getting from you your parents didn't did didn't
do that to you.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I think naturally they had like a little bickering situations
and shit like that, but they tried their best to
stay away from that, right, Like they did their best
to stay away from it, but they really didn't with
each other. It was hard not to, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
But now I remember vivid conversations and my dad being like, no,
I'm not gonna talk bad about your mom, Like that's
what That's not what I'm gonna do, right, Like you're
gonna make certain decisions, you're gonna see things.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
On your own, right, But I'm not gonna be the
one to like sit here and tell you that SHP,
we're not gonna kick it. Yeah, that's your mom. We
ate exactly respect your mom's love your mom blah blah blah,
and vice versa from my mom too.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
You mentioned that your dad got your studio, So if
that so, how old were you when you fell in
love with music that you like? You decided that, you
know what, I think, this is kind of what I
want to do.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I was like thirteen, and I was just like freestyling
with the homies and shit, but I really felt like
that was my thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I think
I'm pretty good at this and I want to like
just see where it takes me type shit. And my
dad was just like, yo, if you're serious about it,
I'm gonna get you some equipment and you learn how
to use that shit.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's what That's what it turned into.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
How helpful that you had parents that believed in your
dream that they didn't, Hey, boy, you going to school, right,
you go go to college, you go get an education,
you go get a job, right, And they say, and
you were like, this is kind of what I want
to do. This is my passion, this is what I
really want to do. When I become an adult, and
they were like, Okay, this is what you want to do.
I'm gonna get you some equipment'm gonna get you some
studio time. Let's see where it takes.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, it helped out a lot, man. I think it
was everything for me because it just allowed me to
create freely and I didn't have to go up against
anybody's word or anybody not believing in my dream. They
always believed in me from day one, just creating the music.
They were like, Okay, if you're making music, cool, like,
keep doing it. If you love it, We'll see where

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it takes you. There's no guarantees, but I'm they always
were just with me, like always.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Like you know where sometimes parents try to live out
their dreams through their kids, right, They want their kids
to go to college or there's certain college because that's
kind of where they wanted to go.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
It didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, they wanted them to play a sport, they wanted
to become a doctor, they want them to become ex
Clearly your parents were in the military and that's not
but to have the forethought and says, well, this is
what this boy want to do, right, right, let's just
support him and see where it goes.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Absolutely, what type of feeling did that give?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Because a lot of time kids suppressed what they really
want to do trying to please their parents because they
don't want to let their parents down.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right right, I think my parents would have rather me
do something a little bit safer. So there is the
you know, go to school, do this, be responsible, blah
blah blah. But in the end they were like, this
is what he loves. Like clearly this mothers going to
sleep doing this shit, waking up doing this shit. I
had quit all my sports, I wasn't hanging out with

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my friends.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, I wasn't doing nothing. So you was really serious
about it, y, I.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Was just in the studio all the time. So what
like they couldn't tell me shit? Was like I was
gonna do it anyway. But they trusted me a lot.
Like even just working in different studios with people being
away from them a lot of times, Yeah, helped out
a lot. And then you know, going to shows, booking shows,
early days stuff like that. My mom was right there

(17:01):
with me, like, you know, driving me there in my
dressing room, making sure that you know, everything goes the
right way. So it was it was a lot, and
it could have went different ways. I don't know how
other people's support system is, but it helped me out tremendously.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
What advice would you give parents that maybe are raising
a child that their ambitions are different than what the parents'
ambition is for the child.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think that whatever you whatever, your child shows interest in,
the more you show interest in it with them, the
further they're gonna go. Okay. And I just think that
that just translates everywhere, whether it be sports or music
or dance or film, whatever it is, If you show

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the same interest in it with them, even if you
don't know shit about it, right, it's going to help
them grow.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
And you know, yeah, hell yeah, you signed a record
deal when you're in when you're in high school, did
your friends know, did the school knows that you were?
Like you were that into it? And did it change
once they find I found out that you were?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah? No, For me, everybody knew what I was doing.
I was always Cam, Like that's my real name, Cameron, Yeah,
it's just Cam, cam Be rapping, Like that's what Cam does?
Cam gonna be a rapper? He think he gonna be
a rapper? Okay, everybody knew that I was in a
couple of magazines, like while I was in high school,
and I sold my CDs in high school, Like I
would walk around selling my CDs and shit, and there

(18:28):
are people who still have those, like the CDs. Yeah, yeah,
hell yeah. They just be taking pictures of it and
putting it on Instagram. I'm like, damn nigga, Like that's
some classic ship right there. So yeah, everybody knew I
was doing what I was doing. And now it didn't
really change much because where I'm from, like nobody has
seen nothing like that. So it wasn't like.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I don't reture.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't like I was like Hollywood, like
nobody was really checking for me. I was just like
doing my thing. So it was really humble beginnings for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
How did you get discovered?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I got discovered by being in the studio on Pittsburgh
just my talent recording e Dan, who's like my mentor,
and there's another there's a couple other guys around, Huggy
and Chad. They introduced me to Benji. Benji had been
in the industry at that point, but he's from Pittsburgh
and he took a chance he signed me to his

(19:22):
independent label and we basically just worked my records from
the time I was sixteen till about twenty three. And
in between that time, I had a record deal at
Warner Brothers. And then that record deal went away, and
then I came back around the second time, and that's
when I'm more or less reinvented myself and kind of
found my personality, found my thing. And then that's what

(19:44):
you see now.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I read you were an artist in development for seven years.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Do you believe that's what's missing from today's artist?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Is it what's missing? No, it's not what's missing.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, what do you think he's missing?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't think anything's missing.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I think they're just different.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, everybody's doing what is good enough for them or
what is going to keep them in the game for whatever.
But those ten ten years of artists development is the
reason that I'm where I'm at in my career.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
That's why you've had the longevity. Yeah yeah, hell yeah.
So what so what is what is a development? What
is an artist development? So what do you do doing?
What are you doing during that time?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
A lot of promo runs, standing in a lot of
shitty hotels, not getting paid. A lot of drops. They
give you a book, this thick drops that you got
to yo, what's up? It's a shout out to DJ
Power one on No No on the weekend cruise with

(20:45):
Da Dad. Yeah, you gotta do that this many times.
That's part of it.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Every radio station from California to New York and everything.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
In between, Dallas, Texas, Uh, San Antonio, Mayami Me, Fort
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for somebody else and gave it to this artist and
you know, so there's a lot of that. Yeah, I
would say that's that's mainly what artists development is is
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Speaker 2 (22:51):
How did you find your voice? I found my voice
through the internet, like YouTube, Twitter really yeah, when Twitter
first cat came out, I was really big on that.
And still you know, I still do use social media.
But social media allowed me to just get my personality
out there and then whatever my agenda with my music

(23:12):
was that wasn't being understood like in the record labels.
You could understand it like through social media, like, oh,
that's why people like him?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Right in the twenty ten Double XL Freshman Class you
J Cole Big, Sean Nipsey, oh J the Juice Man,
Freddie Gibbs, Jay Rock for Sean Donnas.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
But that's a hell of a class. Yeah, that's a
hell of a class.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I mean when you go back and look, you think,
damn well, I'm in here with the heavyweights. But you
would name two thousand Rookie of the Year by the
Source magazine TV, I've done the hottest. Yeah, I mean,
you're not in coll like when you come out I'm
coming out. I'm doing my thing. Whoever else come out, hey,
bless your heart, but I'm gonna do I'm doing me.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely I was. I was that guy.
Yeah yeah, heck yeah. And I was smiling the whole time.
I was cool with everybody, but I was definitely the
standout of my group.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, because think about it. You beat Nikki and j
Cole for real.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yes, Oh that was cool.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
When you look back and I mentioned these names, I
don't know if you had ever heard of them prior
to this, or did you ever have in contact with them,
But when you look at these names, did you think,
like you coming out, You're like, I know you always
hoped and prayed that this moment would be here, But
did you think the other members of that class, like
you guys, all you guys were gonna be household?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh yeah, yeah definitely. I think it just all happened
like in its own time because we were all competing
for the same shit.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yes time.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So it's like like you said, Nikki, like, you know
what I'm saying, Like Nikki now and Whiz now, you
don't say them together, you know what I'm saying. But
we come from the same, you know what I mean. Yeah,
So that's why she at where she's at in her
career because she learned the same things that that I
learned back then. And we all have our time, even Kendrick,
Like Kendrick was he in.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
The twenty eleven class and I was about to ask
you that I'm saying he's under us, Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And he was on tours you know where he was
opening up. But you see Kendrick now it's like he's
doing it ain't nobody. So it's like, yeah, we come
from a really really you know, solid class, like we
did our thing.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah, y'all put that thing back to back because the
two thy eleven class, it was Kendrick, Me, Mac Miller,
Big Kret, Little Twist, yeap ygl A, little b Diggie Simmons.
Twenty sixteen you got Savage litl Uzi Vert Litla Yati, Kodak, Black,
Denzel Curry, Gee Herbal, David East, Little Dickie Addison Pott.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Ro that was a.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Stretch from about twenty ten to twenty sixteen. Yeah, for
sure that y'all had that thing on lock YEP one.
But when it's so man.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
It's like, how do you how did we are How
do you be different when you got so many heavyweights
and you got so many guys and young and women
that's letting songs off.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
How do you stand out?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
How does Wiz make sure his voice is also heard
when you got so many dynamic guys and gals out there.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think there's enough space for all of us. I
think every one of those artists that we named has
their own fans and what they look like. You can
identify each of those people will be like, you're a
so and so fan. So there's enough space for all
of us.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Eight billion people in the world. We give it up. Okay,
the foreign of us. You take a couple of hundred million,
and we're still good to go.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Nipsey Hustle was a part of your Double Lex Operations class.
I read that it's the truth that you made nifty
start smoking blunts and start smoking with.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Paper heated stop smoking blunts for a minute, man, Yeah, yeah,
we had. All of that stuff is on camera too,
Like there's so many like really good moments and back
then that we documented and it's on the internet on
YouTube and stuff like that, so you get to see
like our real come up like it's it was really
really fun coming up in that time and just chilling

(27:18):
but still like making legendary moments and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Do you remember your last conversation with Nips?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I do. I got him drunk his hell, I think
he threw up in the pool. Yeah, so it was so.
I mean, so let me ask you this. Obviously, you
know you're smoking right now? Is that like, is that
like to calm your nerves?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Or you smoke because Sloop said, Snoop said you and him, y'all, y'all,
the two y'all, y'all, can't nobody deal with you and
Snoopy Sloop say he thinks he could get you.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, I mean on certain days.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
So let me ask you a question. What does that
do for you?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Weed? Does it do for me?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
You just like it?

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Does it relax you? Does it put you in a
better mood? That puts you in a better face? Love
smoking weed? Have you always?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Nah? I didn't always love it, Like when I wasn't
old enough to like understand or function off of it.
But when I got to the point where I could,
you know, function and smoke weed, right, hell yeah, Like
everybody can't function off weed?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
I was about to ask you, yeah, because just like
everybody can sometimes you have like what they call a
function and alcoholic or function somebody that does something.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
But you are like, this is normal for you.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's normal.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Since you started smoking weed, have you ever gone to
day in which you didn't smoke?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I have?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
What's that day?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Like?

Speaker 4 (28:43):
It's fun because I'm usually in like do buyers okay, okay,
because you can't take the cabit.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
On the smoke over. But like, if I'm here, I
have no point not to not to smoke. There's no
point in not smoking, right, I can go hours without
doing hours.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
So when you make up and you wake up in
the morning, you roll a little like thank you God.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Let me see.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Ah yeah, I like that first thing in the morning.
Hell yeah, J Cole with a member of your double
XL class.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Do you like the criticism.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
He's received some criticism because obviously he you know, he
fired off one Kendrick k Dot came back fired off
colesins I'm out, and he caught a lot of criticisms saying, hey, bro, no,
you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
That man sent for you.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
You got to go for him too, right, You okay
with him by and I said, no, no, I'm good.
I got better things to do with my time.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I think that, uh ship, how do I really feel
about that? I think there's there's like two versions of it,
like in hip hop like according to the rules, yeah
hip hop like no, hell no, you ain't supposed to. Yeah,
but in real life you can like take some ship
back that you said, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, oh,
I said that. I probably shouldn't have said that. You

(29:58):
know what I'm saying. It takes a bit man to
be like I actually don't want no problems, right, you
know what I mean? Right? So in real life with
it right, yeah, But in hip hop you're like, nah,
you got that message? Well all that other people do
the hip hop thing?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
You have you ever gotten? Have you got? Ever gotten
into a battle? I don't say this with no beat.
Didn't they battle rap? Because this go back the first BAP.
The first battle rap I remember is ll and Kulmo
DP right right, And it's been coming up ever since.
And so but I don't think long as you long
as we keep it on wax, yeah we could. I
used to have the battle coming up, like just in

(30:33):
the city.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, because it's really competitive, and
then you get dudes from one side and they're like,
oh this once, they gotta say some shit, and then
you retaliate, you say some ship back or whatever, or
like there was like an era where we were physically
like get in front of each other in the battle too.
So I've been in battles like that, and I had
a lot of diss me because I'm cool as ship,

(30:54):
you know what I mean, and they just want to
take cheap shots. But nothing past when I got in
the industry, because everybody for me, right, even if you
don't like what I stand for or whatever whatever, I'm
still the weed guy. I'm still cool, I'm still laid back,
I'm still ladies man. So you don't look cool by
dissing me or coming at me, you know what I'm saying.

(31:15):
You can have whatever problem personally, but like nobody's ever
like really stuck their neck out and like said, yall,
I don't know a whisker leifer because that sounds stupid.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
But the biggest thing in a while, I don't know
if we've ever seen, because they dominated the headlines for
the summer. They were talking about it not just hip
hop and soul magazine and not just sold an urban
radio station. This thing had taken a person out of
its own right, and that's Kendrick and Drayton. And you're
the first guy that I've actually you're the first person
I've actually had that's in the industry. So when you

(31:50):
heard it, what went through your mind?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
About Time? I'm tired of it's acting like they're cool
with each other and you know they're not. Yeah, man,
like that's cool to me, Like just speak how you
really feel? Bro Like, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like about Time?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know, did Drake take it too far? He's suing
the man?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Nah? I mean that's I sound like a Drake moved
to me.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
I mean, but to see the think what I'm confused
by is that so many people came for Drake, and
especially some of the guys that I thought Drake was
cool with because he had done music with him, he
had been on their album, been on here.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, he's a musician and a businessman in my eyes,
so it's like if he's not in the public eye winning,
you know, musically, he's going to get a win wherever
he can, right, I mean, it's a smart thing to
do in my opinion. Like, I think they're playing it
exactly how they're supposed to.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
So you think this was orchestrated, You don't think this
is they got They got real.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Beef for now. I don't think them with each other
at all. Wow. I don't think none of them is
like each other.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
They tolerate each other, but they don't get died with
each other.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
It's just how the industry is, and like all of
that's coming to an end now and it's all like
kind of like spilling out and you're getting to see it.
But this is also like wrestling as well, so the
same people who are arguing can be like cool instantly.
So it's like, don't get too caught up on like
you know what I mean, the the animosity part, but
they'll be not them, but in general, people will be

(33:20):
hugging later.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
I think the thing was confusing for me is that
I didn't think it would become to a situation where
we bolb into a lawsuit. I thought we were talking
about stuff and I get look, I understand from Drake,
because bro, you call me a pedophile. Now you got
people looking at me sideways, you know, you might be
effing up my money with businesses, because nobody wants to
be associated with things like that.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
But are you surprised that he took it to a lawsuit?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Am I? No?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Really, no, we ain't even I.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Can see if he stole his he stolen its beat
or his track or something, or he copied but sample
is sample one of his tracks, but not this.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Surprised, damn.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
And here's the thing, because what you're telling me after
I'm listening to you out here correctly. It's kind of
like what Kat. When Kat came on and said what
he said, he opened what comedians already knew to be
true that a lot of us don't get along with
each other, but Kat brought it to the forefront. You're saying, yeah,
there are a lot of people that don't get along

(34:27):
with each other, and they've been faking they feel like
they buddy buddy. But what kay Dot and Drake did.
They're like, I want everybody to see we really don't
help with each other exactly. Yeah, they're gonna be cool too.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Get I can't speak on that personally because I don't
you know, I don't know. I'm just from a fan perspective,
So I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
There's a lot of what happened. Okay, kay Dot had
the summer of summers. Yeah, he got named He's gonna
do the super Bowl in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Obviously litl Wayne's from New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, you got you know, cash money, you got no limit.
So you got Jewel, you got fire oh for, you
got master P, you got bird Man, you got all that.
And what was your take when you heard that k
Dot was gonna be headlining the super Bowl halftime show?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I thought it was dope. I didn't put two and
two together about the whole New Orleans thing until like
I actually heard Wayne comment on it, and like it
was crazy because Wayne really gonna comment on nothing, No
he doesn't. Yeah, so when he did, I was like, damn,
he really like took that personal, not in a bad way,
like that affected him. And I'm like, dang, like maybe

(35:40):
they should have like try to incorporate and Wayne or
something like that, you know what I mean. Just I
don't know. It just made me look at it a
little bit differently. But I can never take like somebody
else's moment from them either, you know what I mean.
It's just one of them situations where you just to me,
I just look at everything. I'm like, dang, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, I think little Wayne is looking like damn, I didn't.
I mean, how much consideration you gave us, because when
I look at it, whereas I think what happened is
that the super Bowl when it was in l a
and you had Dre and you had Snoop. So now
everybody asson if the super Bowl come to your home
town and you got a hot group from there, that
makes sense. But when it was in Atlanta, they had

(36:22):
Maroon five. Maroon five ain't from Atlanta. You know what
we got down today? It wasn't none of them up there.
We ain't even get glad of night. I don't think
they could have had I yeah you got t I
luda jeez the future I mean baby faces.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah no, not for real.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I mean Usher ended up get his come up last
year in Vegas. But so I think that's the thing.
I think the thing is is that and we know
what Wayne is. Wayne is Wayne, So it ain't no Ain.
There would be there will be no there will be
no Weavy, there will be no baby Baby, there'll be
no Slanders. Going on because we know what this man is.
But I think k Dot took it in some type

(37:01):
of way because he said, ain't nobody really congratulate me?
But nas And I think Wayne took it asther shots
that I looked let the sleeping dog lie, let the giants,
let state away years. Yeah, because I don't want no problems.
Don't nobody really want no problems?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah? Yeah? Not with Weezy. Yeah that was crazy because
it's like, you know, I'm always type of person where
it's like you should be able to speak your mind, Kate.
I feel like, ain't nobody step up? Right? You know?
He could say that right? And Wayne could say what
you know that he's pissed about, Like yeah, two things
can be true.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
K Dot didn't get the love and support that he
thought he would get from the community and Weeds it
could feel that he was slighted because he's from New Orleans.
He's a main state and he should have been given
up getting an opportunity. Now that's not to say that
Kendrick won't invite him up and do something. That's not
to say that that won't happen. But I think Wayne
is probably thinking, like, bro, I'm big enough the headline

(37:58):
this thing.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh hell yeah, he's definite thinking that, and he's thinking
that he knows the right people that them people didn't
look out for him, So he's not even looking at
Kendrick crazy. It's like, what's up with the people who
put this together? Right wiring y'all? You know looking out
for me? You know what I'm saying? Right? It could
be like that.

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Speaker 1 (39:42):
Do you remember the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I think it was in Dallas, Green Bay and Pittsburgh. Dude,
that was in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
No, that was two thousand. I think that was two thousand,
elevel it was two thoy ten.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Season twenty eleven when the Packers ended up beating the
Steelers in the Super Bowl, and you have how you
oh you're talking about went for Black and Yellow? Yeah,
way recorded green and Yeah. I erased that from my memory.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I was like, yeah, I was the nineties. I never happened.
I erased that.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
If the Steelers get back to the Super Bowl, you
you you you you cool to do.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Another Black and Yellow, they could just used that one.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Just run that one back up. They don't want you
to update that thing with the new. That song whin
number one when they was scoring on them touchdown. I
think we went undefeated that season.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, y'all, No, no, I think like three or four games.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, but y'all was like the last couple
of games we didn't lose for like ten games or
something like that, y'o.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And Black and Yellow went number one. We went to
the Super Bowl. Hours. Yeah, but if we go again, nah,
because like the way that ship is today, like how
TikTok and all of that stuff is, they just bring
the old bring it back. Yeah yeah, yeah, bring that
old one back. What did that song do for Wiz?
Is that the song that puts you on the map? Yeah,
that song put me on the map. That song made
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(41:01):
So that one like proved that I could, like, you know,
perform on a mainstream level and sell singles because not
only you know how, I have mixtape success and had
I you know, done really well for myself like independently
and on touring, but now I got a freaking number
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(41:22):
fire right now.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
What made you make that? What made you do that song?
Because if I'm not mistaken, I think I heard you
say the song was about a car.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
It's about a car, and it's about my jewelry, and
it was about being from Pittsburgh because like even you
see right here, yes, yes, black and yellow, so it's
like hometown pride. And that was my main thing. I
was like, if I'm going to get a single, I
could rap about whatever the hell I want to. I
was like, but I want my first single to be
about like where I'm from. I just thought it was

(41:52):
the right thing to do. It was like some hip
hop shit to do, like you know what I mean,
Like that's like classic hip hop shit is like just
reap where you're from. So that was my first single.
That's what I did Steelers this year. Russ goes there, Hey,
hey they're doing good flicking that joint.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
They're going to the super Bowl this year.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Hell yeah, crazy bro.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah you're gonna be at attendance.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Fucking right. Hell yeah, I'll be waving a towel like this.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
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Speaker 4 (42:26):
Mike Tomlin had never had a losing season and hold on,
the Cowboys take your song and made the boys. They did,
but they didn't take it. They just started scoring touchdowns
and saying we them boys.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
So I'm like, all right, cool, now I got.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Two anthems, but they're not what them boys they are.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I mean, like kind of.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You see their record, they we are saying that we y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Are much more touchdowns every time they score the song
gets played.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Did you see a ab Antonio Brown said he would
come back and play for the Steelers for free. They
broached that subject to Mike Tomblin. Mike Tomas just said
the thing. He turned to walk off the stage.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah you ever met Aby not in person?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Would you wann him to come back and play for
the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
He's an amazing athlete.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yeah, I don't know. After what a couple of years away,
from the game. I don't know if he can come
back and pick up with He might be one of
those special mouff just like never you know what I mean,
always in shape, always ready to go.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, like drinks Pepsi before they go do athletics. Shit.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Whis Khalifa Day twelve twelve?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yep? What's the day? A couple of days after it's
coming up? Yeah, so this video is gonna drop a
couple of days before. What is that?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
What does that mean for you?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
It's pretty dope to me because my granddad got me
that day. He's not here with us no more. He
passed away last year. Okay, but he went to the
city and told them that they should travel wes Khalifa
Day and they worked it out. So you know that's
that's really significant to me. And then it's really just
about like getting stoned and chilling at this point.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
I mean, I mean, to have a city to back
you and give you your own day, man, that has
to I mean if a kid growing up in Pittsburgh,
did you think something like this was possible?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Nah? And even like now I don't be tripping on
wes Khalifa Day. I probably should make more of a
big deal about it. Yeah, I will eventually, but like now,
I just leave it up to people. But like you know,
as time goes on, I think I'll embrace it more
and turn it into something that like the world sees.
So it's just still in this beginning stage.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
So twelve twelve or you try to get twelve twelve
not just for Pittsburgh, but they're gonna be other states,
They're gonna be the other places that.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Got to be.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
So you wanted to be like a like four twenty.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, yeah, exactly worldwide everybody see you again?

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Did you think it would be what it became?

Speaker 4 (45:10):
I just checked that has six point four billion views
on your YouTube page.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, YouTube page good, I know. I think I'm checking.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Looking good they are.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
When you when you were doing this song, did you
have any idea that this song would be this.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Well no, not even close. I had no idea none whatsoever. Yeah, no,
no clue.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
So they ask you to do this song and you
go into the Obviously you know Paul Walker has passed.
You know this there's gonna be significance to this song.
You do understand that, But to it was right when
he passed, Yes, so he was like filming for the movie,

(46:00):
and they were like, something happened. We need to do
like a whole little redirection, and you're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
A part of that.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
So they're like, this is the last scene of the movie.
They're like, he's in the movie, but we're like generating
his face on a couple scenes. Yes, and this is
gonna be one of them where it's gonna be him
like riding off into the sunset, but it's gonna represent
his departure.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
From its God damn. So I'm like, you know what
I mean. But they were like, they told me that
they had so many other writers on the song too.
They was like, I don't know, I can't even name
all of them because I don't think it's legal. But
there were so many other writers on the song and
artists that they wanted to be on the song. But

(46:46):
by the time the movie had come out, it was
like a week before the movie had come out. They
were like, we need to finish the song and we're
gonna shoot the video and we just want you and
Charlie poth On there. It was like everybody else we
don't want, so you need to write another verse. So
I just quickly like came in there. I watched the
scene for the second because I already did the first

(47:07):
verse just based off of like what they told me
it was going to be like. And for the second verse,
they were like, Okay, watch the scene and then you know,
write it based off of that. So I watched the scene,
I just wrote my verse real quick, recorded it. We
shot the video the next week, and then it comes
out with the movie and shit, and it's just supposed
to be a soundtrack song. But like as soon as

(47:28):
they got on the radio, I think, I don't know
how long it took to go number one, but it
went number one and stayed number one for like thirteen weeks.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Twelve Consecute peaked that number one of the Billboards top
one hundred for twelve consecutive weeks. You see Diamond fourteen
times platinum certification, earned three Grammy nomination, the most stream
track today on Spotify, reaching number one and ninety five
country worldwide.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, I never knew that. I never
knew it was going to do all of that at all.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
So you're only so you I ever met Paul Walker?

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Nah, didn't, So your only time ever seeing Paul Walker
was that video when they showing you clips of the
movie and so they're asking you because you already you
said you had already wrote one verse, and they ask
you to come back to write another verse as they're
showing you of him driving off.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
In right good like yeah, just departing and like yeah,
like you said, I hadn't met him before. And the
way that I wrote the first verse was just based
off of a conversation that we had where they were like,
this is the vibe of it, and this is where
we want you to go. So I had to like

(48:39):
think about personal experiences as well as you know, what
was going on at the time, just to make it
all make sense, like you know what I'm saying, because
I didn't want it to feel too like Forster or
anything like that. Like I wanted it to be real.
I wanted it to be And that's what surprised me too,
because it was so damn real.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yes, I'm like, this is real. These are like real
ass bars, Like you know what I'm saying. Now they're
telling you, did you feel pressure because they're explaining to you,
this is a movie, this is an iconic movie with
I think at the time, maybe it was like on
the fifth or sixth, but well when he passed away,
so you understand what's at stake here. You understand who

(49:21):
Paul Walker is and his character and he's beloved. Yeah,
and they come to you and you just look at
the scene you had conversation with them, you had already
wrote a verse, and you look at the scene of
him driving that car off and you get the writing.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
How much pressure did you feel?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I didn't feel any pressure at all, because I think everybody,
you know, it's unfortunate that Paul Walker lost his life
and his legacy is always going to live on. I
met his family and stuff like that. But what did
they think about the song? They love it. They love it.

(49:59):
They from day one they loved it. But I think,
like see you Again connects because you can tell, like
everybody goes through those losses and you can feel that
in those verses. And I've taken losses and you know
I've felt you know what I mean personally, what that
feels like. So to be able to channel that through

(50:21):
the music, tell his story, help his legacy live on,
and also connect with other people who go through similar things,
you know, that was that was my main goal, and
that's what I knew I could do just through my
personal experiences, and I'm glad that the world, you know,
gravitated towards it.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Like what did that song do for Wiz?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
That song turned me into a global superstar? Yeah, Black
and Yellow household name see You Again? Global superstars is
when you do a say, is that the song that
you always close with? I don't close with Yeah, but
that's how you know we're getting close to the end. Yeah.
Somebody always said, don't close with your biggest song. Okay,

(51:05):
so yeah, we're not gonna We're not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Now you can confirm or you can say. I don't
got no comments.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Now.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I read and I research team little Way, Chris Brown,
fifty cent Eminem wile A were all originally supposed to
be on the song. Fifty said See You Again was
originally developed for em.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I could see that. But yes, all of those names,
definitely they were all on there.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
You know what, whereas you know a lot of times
where you know, like this song was written for this artist,
this song was written for that artist, and I had
this song in mind for this and when you hear it,
I don't know if somebody could have done it justice,
Like you did that song that was that might have
been that that was that was that was your that
was your calling, that was your purpose that song. Bro,

(51:56):
whatever God did, he was he knew exactly what he
was doing.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, but that that was proof that he knows what
he's doing.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah, that was that.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
That was.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
So from that obviously, now you were household name, black
and yellow, household name. Everybody in America knows you. See
you again, everybody in the world knows you. Now there's
a windfall of monetary and and and fame and adulation.
So now what does WIZ do? What is WIZ buy?
What is the one thing? Like I get whatever I want? Now,

(52:32):
let lets you boy go get.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
That right there?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Ship. I don't know. I always have money.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
But that's what brought in a different type of way.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
It did. But I was like, you know, you didn't,
you didn't. You didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
You didn't, Like damn, I got the number one song
on bill boards for for three months.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
No, no, no, I didn't do that. You didn't.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Just like I was making smarter business at that point,
like invested.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
In, Yeah, I was invested in. I was like I
went on tour that year, So we definitely put money
into a tour and made money off of that song
and huge songs, so I made more money. That's what
I did with my money.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Yeah, but I did see when you say in a
video that you say you don't like cyber trucks.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
What is about cyber trucks?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
You don't? They're ugly?

Speaker 4 (53:23):
They're ugly as ship anybody says they're not ugly, ist,
I disagree with you with that.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Shit's ugly. It probably coolest hell on the inside. And
that's too. Like I'm like not getting in the car
because I don't want to be like, oh my god,
this ship's.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Coolest in here. And did you get with them cars?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Noah, yeah exactly because it's like I could get one,
but it's so ugly.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
What's the best gift Wiz has ever given someone?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
The best gifts I've ever given someone a child, every
little take a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
We'll get back to that in a minute.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
What have you learned about money?

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Because you mentioned that, like you've always had money, and
I see you. You know, you invested in this company
and I think the company it's worked over a billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
You invested in the what.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Is this gin? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Yeah, you got Khalifa cush, so obviously you're doing right.
It's not so much just I mean, you got jewelry,
but you understand that, you know, one day, Whiz ain't
gonna be able to rap?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Right, And no, no, I always be able to rap.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
You're gonna be like a big jagger.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
And Clinton is eighty three years old. He's still on stage,
smoking weed, directing his bad.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
What's the guy rolling stones? He's up there too?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Oh now what's that boy name? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
But they got to be eliminate seventies whiz.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, but George Clinton look good.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I like seeing George Clinton on stage.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
But how did you learn about money?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:56):
And because there's been a lot of people make a
lot of money. Yeah, it ain't how much you make,
it's how much you keep. How did you learn did
you see from others? A wise man learn from other's mistakes,
and food have to learn from its own. Did you
see some of the pitfalls that some of the people
that were in your position had gone through and you're like,
I'm not gonna make those mistakes.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I think it's a combination of like wanting good advice, okay,
and having good advice, okay, because a lot of people
don't want somebody to tell them what to do with
their money or how to manage it and shit like that.
I'll spend it whatever I want blah blah blah. But me,
I might have some crazy ass dreams, but I'd be like, financially,

(55:38):
does that make sense? You know what I'm saying. So
like a lot of you know a lot of people
from our community, a lot of they don't give a
fuck about that, Like they just want to buy it
right away. And I had that point in my life,
and luckily I made it out of that, you know
what I'm saying. I was in my early twenties, and
it was like, Yo, if I see it, I like it,
I'm gonna buy it and it you know, it just

(55:59):
takes growth and maturity, and some of us we reached
that point earlier than others, right. But for me, I
always seen my money as an opportunity to make me
more money. Like even if I buy a chain and
so I could look good, you know what I mean.
Like cause if I'm like a bummy rapper, nobody's gonna
want to book me. So like hopefully this however much

(56:21):
I spent on my chain. I'll make it back. I'm
gonna do some videos. I'mna look cool. That's gonna get
me some views. Then that's gonna sell me some tickets,
and then you know, eventually, it's just all gonna promote
the brand, you know what I'm saying. Like I'm not
doing it to like be in the club or to
be the coolest guy ever. It's really it all goes
back into something. And you know, you can buy studio equipment.

(56:44):
There's a lot of things that you can buy that
will make you money. Yeah, that'll make you money. So
it's like on top of having fun buying cars and
you know, houses and shit like that.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
And that's another thing. Y'all need to stop writting all
them houses and shit like that. It's not cool to
have a house in here and over there and over there.
Like get one spot, like you know what I'm saying,
and own it and own it. Save your money, bro.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Like a lot of fools just be like blowing their
money on dumb shit right just because they see somebody
else doing it. I've never been that type of dude.
I'd be like, yeah, spend your money, you'll be broke
and I'll be looking real good. Like you know, I
make more money every year, Like there hasn't been a
year yet that I made less money year. I'm doing
all right, bro, Like you know what I'm saying. So

(57:29):
it's like I want to keep it that way. So
it's like you got to have good habits and shit
like that and just stop looking at everybody else investing.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
You mentioned investing. How did you learn about investing.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I learned about investing just through my business management. Really.
I learned that my lifestyle could make me a lot
of money if I just put the money in the
right places. And there's a lot of opportunities that come up,
and there's a lot of things that people talk about
on the low that you can get in on early

(58:03):
before it even becomes something. If you have money, just
take a little bit of that money and put it
off into something that can make you a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Right that fifty or five hundred thousand you go spend
on the car, invested it.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Bruh, you'll come up so so good in like you know,
five to seven years if that if it's a good
you know what I'm saying, And everything doesn't everything, so
you might put a little bit into this one. So
you just figure out what makes the most sense. Yeah, yep,
But I learned that through having good business. You gotta
have Yeah, you gotta have the right people around. Yeah, yeah,

(58:38):
I had Carlois Miller. I don't know if you saw that.
Yeah I did, and he said, man, the best weed
he ever had.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
K you want to show you want to show the camera.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
It's the best weed in the world. Camera and this
is Yeah, wait till you see how much I'm smoking.
Open it up right here in the front. Yeah, yeah,
there you go. Yeah, this's gotta be a month's apply
and naha, I'm gonna run out in a week. Wait, yeah, yeah, Can.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Y'all see this?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeahhea? No, look hold, look looks like a little Christmas
tree in the Yes.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Can y'all see this? This man said this the last
time a week. I'm weak thinking about it. Yes, I
see you trying to knock one off and trying to
shake it in your facket. So sad they can't take that. Noa, noa, noah, Nah,
this interview will be over.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
You don't got to use it. Now.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Let me ask you a question, So, how did you
like did you ever think that because we used to
be so taboo. I mean people have lost careers, people
have lost you know, not only professional careers, endorsements, you know, jobs,
good job, doctor, lawyer.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
What are family's gone to jail?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
How many people in jail for for weed?

Speaker 4 (59:59):
And now it's a multi, multi, multi billion dollar business
and everybody knew it was. As soon as the government
could find a way to tax it. They're gonna say,
you're bringing up bringing on and here you are. You know,
did you ever think smoking weed? You could ever make
money smoking weed?

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Man, I used to make money smoking weed before he
was allowed to make money. But yeah, I think like
the way weed is now, it's nothing how it was
before I got in the game, right, So I like
to think that I had something to do with it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, cause look you and Snoop, you guys, I mean Snoop.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
I mean Snoop is as big an icon that he's
one of the most recognizable faces, recognizable names. But he
was able to stay true to himself, like I smoked weed.
What y'all want me to do? Get up here, and
all of a sudden, I don't smoke no more. No,
I smoked you the same way like bro I smoke weed,
take it or leave it, And everybody's like, man, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Man, Hey, we'd be cheaping.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Were cool with it? We cool with it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah, Well Snoop brought me into the game the right way. Yeah,
he gave me the pass. And I think just him
being such an og and like, yeah, you know what
I'm saying, solid individual, He wanted to see me, you know,
take this as far as I can by being myself.
He never was like, yo, Whiz is the next Snoop Dogg.

(01:01:24):
But if you think of weed, you're going to think
of Wiz and Snoop and like Bob Marley, Yep, you
know what I mean. But like that's a really that's
a really good company to be in, and all around
the world, just to go to Thailand and see weed
shops on every corner, and just to be sitting in
a restaurant in France and they'd be like, yeah, go ahead,
light up. I'm like, dang bro, Like we came along

(01:01:47):
ass way man. And that's what it was really all about.
To me. It's not about like flexing or you know,
I love pot. You know what I'm saying. I don't
even try to get the whole world high but I
just enjoy the benefits of it and the more that
people just see the good side of it, and if
you can smoke in and enjoy it, and hell yeah
with your eyesight, yeah sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I will have the wear glasses no more.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
No, it's like you know, it's like Lasik, just wake
up seeing better, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
is also posted and you can access it to whichever
podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just
simply go back to club profile and I'll see you there.