Davante Adams Part 2

Davante Adams continues his conversation on Club Shay Shay, picking up where her left off in the first half of his episode.

The conversation extends to Davante's thoughts on his legacy and future in the NFL, discussing the uncertainty of how long he will continue playing and the impact on his family. He shares insights into his favorite NBA players like LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Deron Williams, and Shaquille O'Neal, crafting his personal Mount Rushmore of basketball legends, and reflects on his top five wide receivers of all time, including Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Calvin Johnson, and Marvin Harrison.

In a candid moment, Davante discusses his upcoming Netflix series, offering viewers an unfiltered look into his life on and off the field, providing a glimpse into the real Davante Adams beyond the game.

Don't miss this candid and revealing conversation with Davante Adams, exclusively on Club Shay Shay.

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for you coming back. Part two is underway.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's reported I don't know if you can you can
clear this up that you took not considerably less, but
the Raiders gave you a little less than what the
packers that offered.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, right before the ending of it. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
You was out of there and you feel they slapped
you in your face by not giving you what you
what you had earned up until that point. They made
you play, put yourself, put you and your family at risk,
and then once you come out on the other side,
said Doc, we knew you could do it.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hey, you go, bro.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
And then But but the biggest thing was that I
didn't hear anything after that, so I basically was already
la la la la lave you know once once the
season ended, but I didn't there was no follow up.
There wasn't a lot of talks going on. I didn't
know there was for like almost two months. And I'm thinking, Okay,
well I'm gonna just be a regular dude to them,
so I'm about to go. And then they think that,
you know, tagging me was was the next option after

(00:55):
basically playing for less than tag the year before that.
So I'm like this this is obviously not and they
were I don't know if they was calling my bluff
or just you know what, what the idea was, but
it just wasn't working for me. So you know, I
just I had to plug my ears before I heard
the number that made might ass want.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
To stay cause you'd heard that. Nobent for like, okay, yeah,
I forgive.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Y'all, hold on you, I said, what so yeah, I
just I just said, look, we're gonna nip this in
the bud. This is what I think is best. You know,
ended up working out for the Packers. They got a
couple of good players out of it as well. And
you know, it is what it.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Is growing up your upbringing.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I read that you've had you never had your own bed,
slip on the couch at your grandma's house with nine
other people living there. Did you always want to be
a football player? Did you always want to be did
you what?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Do you? What?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Did they want to be when he was growing up?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I want to be in the NBA. When I was
in the in the in the fourth grade, we did
a yearbook thing I could I could show it to you.
I got I got it, I got it in my
favorite so it'll be it'll be real easy to find.
But I don't know if you've ever seen it. I
was in fourth grade and this, this will tell you
that this was all meant to be because you'll notice
that jersey, and you'll notice that kid right there. That's
that's in the yearbook, fourth grade yearbook right there.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
NBA or NFL Star.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's what I told them, them people that I needed.
I said, that's what that's what I want to be.
And and you see NBA was first at this point.
I didn't I didn't play football to my junior year
in high school, so so I was supposed to be
that's the ball. It was. It was. It was bad
for me, and that was it was really no other option.
There was nobody else that had made it out of

(02:27):
you know, where I was from. So I wanted to
be able to, you know, inspire the youth in in
my city and obviously provide for my family and.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Do what I love to do, which is play ball.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But you know, the football got I ended up catching
one of those at some point in high school and
you know, I said, you know, I grew five and
a half inches going into into high school. And then
that kind of stopped and I was like, damn, I
thought it was gonna be six eight. I'm like, okay,
so you know, I'm I I grew and I'm I'm grateful.
You know, I'm about six one six two now. But on

(02:57):
that that's that's bottom of the barrel. And then yeah,
and I do got the forty forty forty one forty
two in vertual make up for it, but it's like
staff for the day, and I ain't shooting it like
Dame or stuff. But I could shoot it, but you know,
the the was a little different over there with that,
so if I if I can't shoot it like them,
and I ain't, you know, dam by my height, so
he eat close. But you know, I played the numbers

(03:20):
and I feel like the NFL was gonna gonna be
a good look for me.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
How motivated were you? And I tell people this all
the time. My only motivation was to get my family
out of the environment that I grew up in, because
I didn't want my kids to spend one day in
the life in which I had to live, so let
alone an hour, not even a day. How motivated were
you to get your family knowing they upbringing nine people
sleeping on a couch and in your grandmother's home. How

(03:45):
motivated was DeVante to leave that environment?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I mean it was it was my driving force, man.
And honestly, I'm glad that I had a wake up
call in high school that that kind of got me
on the right track as far as academics, because you know,
I wasn't really focused the way that I was, do
you know, in in early in high school, and that
was going to lead to me having to take a
whole alternate route to get where I needed, which you know,
nothing wrong with the with the Juco route, but you know,

(04:11):
you can get lost in the saut especially coming from
where I come from. A lot of people end up
in that and get lost in it. You know, you
ain't guaranteed nothing. You don't. You might have a quarterback
that's okay, but you know we we need somebody that
knows that can sling it to to be able to
dependent position correct exactly if I'm playing running back. You know,
that's that's on me. You know, the old line got
a block, and you got to be a good scheme

(04:31):
and all that, But you get that peel in your hand,
you got more to do with. You know, you got
more more to say about what you do than then
on the outside. So for me, I just had to
get a little bit more mature, you know, throughout as
it pertained to understand in the big picture, you know,
in high school and and locked in and once I
once I got there and understood and conquered that academic

(04:51):
aspect and got to a point where I realized that
I was on my way, I feel I couldn't let
nothing get in my way. I knew my whole life
growing up, every time I played, you know, at any
level of basketball or whatever, I was always one of
the best ones, if not the best ones. So it
wasn't a talent. So for me, it was just about
the right opportunity and making sure I checked the boxes
of you know, what I had to do, you know, academically,

(05:13):
And I don't want to say check the boxes because
that make it seem like I was just trying to
get by, which with some of it maybe that was,
But to a certain extent, I wanted to make sure
I did what I had to do so that I could,
you know, get there. Because school for me, like I
didn't want to be a doctor, so it was essentially
a means to an end because you got to ebility.

(05:33):
There you go. And then I, once I got my
head on my shoulders, I said, this is this is
something that I can use to and for me, I
never even really thought too much about I need to
provide for my kids because I wasn't even on that wavelength,
you know, that that mental wavelength at that point, but.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Your immediate family that you saw going through everything that
you were going.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Through exactly, which is why that same house that that
I lived in and grew up in and slept on
that couch last year. This so basically twelve months ago,
I was able to team up with CBS and go
and completely renovate her entire home in two weeks. So
when it did that, just to get back to her,
because it's not easy doing that, you know. Obviously, my
parents did a great deal for me, and living with

(06:13):
my mom and dad being separated, I would go and
stay with my mom and then when I stay with
my dad. That's was the situation that I had, and
that's the only situation I ever had, so I didn't
really know anything different. But once I got to the
outside and I seen I had to feel like I
really needed to pay that forward. To my people.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
You dealt with a lot of death growing up, friend
drug sales, gang violence. Thank you got a cousin that
got murdered. How did those situations impact Hey?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, I first I just I think my parents. Man,
I got great parents. I thank them for really helping
me be you know, exposed to it as far as
knowing what's going on, but almost to learn from it
and stay away from that type of stuff. I've never
had any time type of legal you know run ins
where you know, I've made any bad decisions. And part

(07:05):
of that was that healthy fear of my parents, Like
they already they instilled it in me, and I knew
the difference between you know, right and wrong. So even
even though I may have been you know, goofing off
in the classroom freshman and sophomore year in high school
or something like that, or you know, not not you know,
giving my all into my academics, I was always a
mature minded person, you know, I always knew I always

(07:25):
could make the right decision. Like my whole thing I
still live by to this day is I never want
to be able to say I just made the worst
mistake of my life. And it's a lot of dudes
that I grew up with and that's.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Still around, still paying for it.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
That's still paying for it, and still saying that almost
day by day, Like, damn, I just made the worst decision,
you know, So to have parents that had me in
elementary school forty five minutes away from the hood, you know,
getting on the school bus and having my day be
a lot longer, but ultimately allowed me to be around
a completely different crowd where I could focus on school
and not have to worry about fighting in school and

(08:00):
you know, drugs being in the school and elementary like
how it was where I grew up, and you know,
people getting killed, Like I got friends that I played
you know, early early childhood basketball with that I didn't
even get to see, you know, graduate high school. And
that's a crazy thought when you're an adult now, Like
at that point, I'm thinking, you know, so many people
you grew up in the hood. You see kids thirteen

(08:20):
fourteen getting killed because they get into it so early,
So it's not that crazy to you at that point
those are just your friends. But then once you start
to be an adult, you think about what if my kid,
Like at that, you know, I got a five year
old almost. I'm like, that's about seven years from now. Like,
you know, the thought of that is insane to think
about that. So for me to recognize that, it just

(08:42):
that's my driving force, you know, to continue to do
what I do to you know, make sure my kids
see the light and the don't ever have to see
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I read that you broke your arm three times, broke
your arm playing Pop Warner football, playing basketball, and then
you broke in the game playing football all before the
eighth grade.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
You see that, that's how you get it up.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
The thing, man, I asked you, you want to catch it
in there? If you got that thing?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Dang, I knew, I knew you, I knew he was
coming with that, that would be Yeah. I probably had
fifteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do want to catch a show
with that one.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah. Man, Now you see, if it's ever a situation
like that's that's what I'm working with. Super Yeah. I
broke this when I was I was fifth grade twice.
So I broke it. It rehealed, reattached. I was wearing
a brace and it was hooping in after school program
before I should fell straight on it snapped it again

(09:43):
and then again in eighth grade. I did it again.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
So in other words, you broke the growth plate, so
it stopped growing.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Stopped growing, and now now that thing's stunted. But my
right arm is way longer, my left hand is way bigger.
So I'm just all. I don't even ask. I don't
even know I made it work. We didn't figured it out.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Did you want to quit? Did you feel courage? Did
you feel like?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Man?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Damn well? All football wise, I was over.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
That was because that was the one year that I
played in Pop Warner right broke my arm. The last
player of the half the first game of the season,
playing quarterback, got sacked and we was getting ready to
need it. I told my cousin I was coaching. I said,
man's hell, man, let's go for this. We had like
the forty yard line. I don't even know how I
could throw forty years at that point, but I told him,
let's go for it. I'm dropping back here. We're playing
the team out of Oakland. These boys, ain't They weren't

(10:29):
checking birth certificates or something. I had a dude run
around the edge, looked like you came and smacked me,
landed on me, and just snapped it. I said, I
ain't never playing football again. I ain't never broke no
bone in my life until that point. I was over it.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So high school football, So that means you didn't play
high school FOOTBA until your junior year. Why did you
play your freshman cydeboy? Are you so over after breaking
your arm?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I was over, man, I was. I was still healing,
coming in like fully healing. And my mom was like, boy,
you need to sit down somewhere. She enjoyed I think
basketball more at the point anyway, right, you know, seeing
me like I was, you know, I ain't have a
hemmelet you're not as far away you watching the game,
you can see me. Like just how that camera right there,
you could be right right there up on the game.
So she like, I'd rather be more intimate with it

(11:12):
like that. My dad was a basketball feet now like
he played both sports, but he was like that guy,
especially in the hood growing up. I have the reason
I don't go back now. It's because every time I go,
I get reminded of my dad better athletes than me.
What and he about to be sixty two, uh next
the next month. So I'm like, now, okay, well maybe
I'll stay away from y'all. Y'all, I think I'm right right,

(11:36):
But yeah, that's I mean, it's, uh, it is what
it is. I decided that that we're gonna we're gonna
stick with this football thing, and and it worked out.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So so your your junior year twenty four, you play
twenty five total games, ninety two catches, almost sixty on
the yard, eight touch eighteen touchdowns. You won Polo Alto's
first state champion, first state title. You starting cornerback and
wide receiver. You locking them up.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
You was reavers man, I was. I was playing off
pressing a little bit of everything. Really, I should have
had more picks. There wasn't throwing on my side.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh you were shut down.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I was just over there baiting stuff. And they was like, nah,
we ain't. We ain't doing that. We ain't coming over
there now with all them touchdowns he got, Yeah, but
it was we had a good team though. Man went
out there and one and we wasn't a private school. Nothing,
went out there and held our on.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
You were a teammate, a high school teammate of Jock
Peterson and John Peterson won two natural two World Series
back to back.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think he played with the forty. I think he
did the Giants.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
The Giants was the team he was on before the Diamondbacks.
Now he won one with the Braves, and he won
one with the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Hold on.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
In two thousand and nine, he had thirty catches, six
hundred fifty yards, nine touchdowns. You had twenty five catches
four and eighty four yards seven touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Hey man, it was it was his show. One thing
people don't know they see him now and he didn't.
You know. He a baseball dude. It ain't gotta look
like like us when they get out there. So it's
hard to think about it. But Jock was really the
jack of all trades though. He was that guy basketball, football, baseball.
Like he ain't need the academic he just needed to

(13:08):
be able to graduate high school because he went and
got drafted right out of there because he could do
it all. Though honestly, people didn't know that about him.
But he was somebody that I looked up to when
I first started football.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, you said he was a great football player.
Obviously baseball because he made it to the majors. Basketball.
I'm looking at some of the athletes from the bait
Brady Bill Russell, Barrybad Jason Kidd GP dame, excuse me,
rest your soul.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
OJ. Where's Devonte in that that list? Oh?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh, he in there somewhere. You got it. If we're
putting jerseys up on the wall, mine gonna be in this.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's gonna be what it's all said. Jud when you
deal with his game.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I don't know if they're gonna put it right by times,
but they're gonna they're gonna put it. I'm definitely I'll
be over there somewhere at least near near uh near damon. OJ.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Right, So, grade so you said you took at first,
you were like you joked around in class. Grades weren't
a big thing. So is that why you didn't get
it up for you? Winged to go to cal because
of your grades?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
The grades they just they came in and with it
really bad. I mean, I was was you have gotten
in prison with the breads? I said, like this man,
I was flirting with with being eligible, which is which
is really really bad. That's not good by any means.
I was. I was hovering around like a like a
two point zero, like like right there, you know, And

(14:31):
that's and that was factor then with pe grades in
there too, So so it was you know, I definitely
wasn't doing nothing that would attract Stanford. You know, Stanford
my high school here el Camino right here, and Stanford
is lily right here, and them boys wanted nothing to
do with you, boy, because they're like, we're gon, We're
gonna give you a scholar just for for it to
go to waste. Like you you ain't showing that you

(14:52):
you got what it takes to be able to even
you know, did you want to go to Stanford? I
never really had an interest. I always wanted to go
to caw That was that was the school I wanted
to go. Who real bad it was cal Organ at
that point. Just it was you know, Marshan being somebody
I grew up around, seeing him and d Jack like
they made college football in the in the barrier looked
like like big time ball, like them boys and Clemson

(15:13):
and like what you see on the East coast in
the South like it. It was the closest thing resembling
of that, and it looked more fun honestly because them
boys took it over. They sells. So that's where I
always wanted to go. But that's another I mean any
UC's they got to see something that's gonna stand out.
So it ended up turning into two offers. And you know,
they called me a two star, but I think that
that's closer to a one star, right, And you know,

(15:36):
having San Diego State coming offered me in class, and
actually one of the coaches that they offered me walked
into the class called the teacher out teacher that got
us in there. We were sitting in there for like
probably thirty seconds. He walked back in offered me a
scholarship in front of the class and say to the class,
this scholarship is gonna go to waste if he don't
pick his grades up. And that was one of the

(15:57):
most embarrassing moments I think I ever had in my life,
because my you, I'm the guy at the school. So like,
ain't nobody at the in that class or at the
school gonna try me in a way like that. But
what am I gonna do? Like respond, like, I like
get on him about that. So I'm just sitting there
just with the with the stank face, just mad and
salty about it. But but you know, it's true. It

(16:18):
lit a fire, though it did, And at that point
I never really, you know, when you're young like that.
I wouldn't say that I was doing enough in whop
my first two years to whards. I was getting offer
that early. You got the guys that come in and
then the you know, like the Aaron Gordon's and and
people like that that that I played hoop with in
that area where you know, he's six seven and doing

(16:40):
all that dunk and they got scouts and stuff at
every game. So those type of dudes get offered in
eighth grade sometime. But I wasn't doing enough to at
that point. I don't think my game had matured enough.
And then it got to a point even by my
senior year where I was getting a lot more attention.
But at that point I had already made up my
mind and thankfully got my grades together and ended up
taking eight classes. You know, you and your senior year,

(17:01):
you start gearing down. You then took the most of them,
so you're finishing up. You almost decided me to the
least possible. Yeah, So I got eight classes my senior
year and then so full day every single day, and
then I had to When I graduated high school, I
was headed to Fresno State, but still had to take
another course because I had taken a class that wasn't
in the I wasn't like on the eligibility for D

(17:23):
one eligibility. So the class that I actually did pass
and do well in didn't even count. So I graduated
high school and got to take a summer school course.
While these boys is in training camp for in college,
my whole class is there. I'm taking a class just
to still get into Fresnel State. So that's actually why
I ended up red shirting, because they didn't get to
really assess me in training camp because everything took so long.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
But you were those two seasons that you played twenty
four touchdown casters on season eight, more than anyone else
in college football. You average two touchdowns a game, had
fourteen catches the year before, led the nation with one
hundred and thirty one catches, one hundred and seventeen yards,
twenty four twenty four touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Row you put that working in.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
We did, and honestly, it's a blessing in disguise. I
think that I was able to red shirt that year
because that first year, like getting acclimated, I went and
I took advantage. I went to work. I felt kind
of slighted that they red shirted me because I felt
like they knew enough about me to have me on
that field. But we had a lot of guys going
at that point. I don't know if I would have

(18:22):
been able to make that same initial splash in the
college football the way that I did had I played
that year. So I think that it worked out better.
I got Scout Team Player of the Year. I was
wearing Keenan Allen's jersey number, you know you put the
little pennies on, yeah, to go out and mimic him.
I was taking full advantage learning him, and you know,
he ended up turning it into like one of my idols.
And I ended up telling him like a couple of

(18:43):
years into the league, and you know, he one of
my good friends now because of you know, essentially just
having the model of my game after him, you know,
playing against them week one, that first game, I said, Man,
I'm about to kill these boys all year. And I
took that, you know, I took all the owners to
get better and use that for what it was. And
then came in that year, like you said, a hundred

(19:03):
over one hundred catches and you know, thirteen hundred and fourteen,
and then the next year they sitting there will how
he gonna follow that up? Well? Then I came back
and doubled the touchdowns and then you know, one point
thirty and seventeen hundred, and at that point, with Derek
leaving and me being in a position that I was
and what I'd already solidified, I felt like I was
gonna hurt myself more by staying, because I mean, what

(19:25):
you want to see two thousand yards before you believe that.
And we played freaking twelve games, you know what I mean.
Like it's I was getting it in and I felt
really good. I felt like I put everything I could
on tape, and you know, being being a little bit
younger getting in the league, or give me a little
bit more time in the league too. So it just
so happened to work out, you know, great time.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
In the twenty fourteen draft, can you name the eight
receivers that were drafted before you?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Sammy Watkins fourth overall, Mike Kevin's seventh overall, Odell twelfth overall,
B Cook's twentieth overall, Kevin Benjamin twenty eighth overall. Marquise
Lee was the first pick of the second round. I believe.
Then we got Paul Richardson, Jordan Matthews, and then I
think one seven came in there right after that. If
I don't, if I didn't messed that up, that's it.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yep, Sammie Watkins, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Junior, Brandon Cooks,
Kevin Benjamin, Mark eas Lee, Jordan Matthews, Paul.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Richardson, Yeah, Jordan was right before Paul. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, but that draft, thinking about you had Aaron Donald
in that draft, Jadavian Clowney Khalil, Matt Tady, Bridgewater, Derrek Carr,
Jimmy g Jarvis, Landrick, Christian Kirksey. What I mean, what
was your rookie year in Green Bay? Did you think
you should have played more? Or you played about as
much as you thought you should or deserved or earned

(20:39):
the right to play.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well. I say this, I wasn't. I didn't have any
issues with how much I played because I feel like
I got a substantial amount of snaps. I felt like
maybe I could have gotten used a little bit more,
and maybe that would have even helped advance my you know,
my progression as a receiver in this league to help
going into that next year. You know, but having different

(21:03):
times where and that's just the reality of it. You
come in and you got Jordan Nelson and random Cob
on the team, and you come in and you not
playing like I said, like how Odell did when he
first got in. If I was doing that and wasn't
getting the ball, then maybe I would feel differently, But
I don't think my game was at that point, you know,
And that's one of my best traits. And somebody gave
me this compliment the other day and it was actually

(21:24):
like one of the best compliments anybody could ever given me, said, Tay,
I really feel like you the most self aware person
that I ever met. And I really it meant a
lot to me because I'm really good about being honest
with myself. And I'm not gonna sit here and tell
you that I should have been a pro bowler that
year or my second year. I should have been getting
a ball like some of these dudes, because you gotta

(21:46):
play like it, and my confidence wasn't at the spot
that where I want. You know, ten targets the fifteen
targets a game, right, because when you're not confident playing
this position, you not gonna be able to be successful.
Unless you're standing by yourself out there. So you got
to get open, you got to do all the stuff
that it takes to be great. And then once you, you know,
accumulate enough stacked success, that's when you get to a

(22:06):
point where you feel like, Okay, now this thing should
be my show. And then that ended up happening. But
that first year I didn't necessarily feel that way.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
How much did social media impact you the first two
years the fans wanted Jeff Janis to play. They hashtag
Janis overabs but your mom, man, hold on, y'all a'trey
talking about my baby like this?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yere A lot of my people felt that way. Honestly,
Jeff jeff Is. I love Jeff to death. So he
one of my that's one of my favorite teammates I've had.
We still talk he still honestly to this day, I
think Jeff might talk more shit to me than anybody
that like Jeff Janis don't care man, And we came
in together and we were real tight, so I got

(22:44):
nothing but respect for him. But you know, so it
has nothing to do with him. But I just thought
that just people were just insane making some of the
claims that they were making because it's like, what are
you expecting out of a young player coming in, you know,
first just getting my feet wet, I show you that
there's some you know, I showed a little promise early,
had some hiccups. But the fact that people be ready

(23:06):
to just give up on folks the way that they do,
especially after they know that they can play right, you know,
it just it kills me. And that's why I feel
like it's my responsibility now to show love to the
proper people, no matter what they're going through and the
you know, as it pertains, we come on here and
we talk about somebody that struggling in the league, I'm
not gonna lie to you. But if it's somebody that
I feel like, like we talk about aiden, people want

(23:27):
to say, oh he not the answer this and that, Well,
what are you basing that off of? Have you do
you have a large enough simple size to really truly
feel that way? Are you saying that because this man
on TV said that, and he's shaping the way that
you feel about, you know, about the game. And I've
always said, like I wish that I could even start
this now and put some money in to get it going.
But I wish the fans had the ability to access

(23:48):
practice film and really see that. Way they could they
could determine who they really really like and who is
really the best. Because if you got to see people
work on a day in and day out basis and
go in and watch, let me see what they did
in seven on seven to day. Let me see in
a team period four how he played when they did
move the ball period, let me see how he did.
And if you got the chance to come in and
watch me work, it wouldn't even be I mean, I

(24:11):
know some guys out there getting it in in practice
and they post their videos and they do all that.
I don't do the social media and proven trying to
prove to the world that I'm out here grinding right.
You're gonna see on Sunday and then the one after that,
and then one after that and for continuous years. I'm
gonna show you the proof is in the pudding. So
I'd rather do it that way.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
What do you feel your responsibility as a receiver, because
a lot of times and sometimes quarterbacks don't take this approach.
My job is not to get him ready. But MBS
gave you a lot of credit that says you taught
him how to run the routes, you taught him how
to be professional.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
What role do you think you play.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
You play as a veteran guys helping the young guys
get ready to play.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I mean that my leadership role has been prevalent for
I mean really since about I would say, honestly twenty
twenty seve seventeen, probably the year before Marquez and them
got in the league. That's when it got to a
point where I was the you know, for sure, the
number one guy, and it was it was essentially my
show on offense. So I've been real secure about myself

(25:13):
as a player, So I don't I don't feel like
me going in or I'll say this, I feel like
I'm doing a disservice to the team and my fellow
white House by not giving them all the knowledge that
I've gotten, because honestly, a part of what's making it
harder year by year is when you know so much
and you truly understand the game, you can't just be

(25:35):
coached by just anybody because now I'm not just about
to buy in. Like if you come in the league
and you don't know much, it's easy to have whatever
coach you got this old dude telling you this and
that you just gonna go because he's the coach. But
once you have real experience and you really know yourself,
and I've learned from some real gurus. Keith Williams, my
receiver coach from Presno State who's with the Saints. Now,
he's taught me ninety percent of what I know at

(25:57):
mentality wise, technique, all of that to where and now
walking into a room, I gotta be with a guy
like Edgar Bennett that he understands that I know, so
that we work together when it's time to, you know,
put together the individual part of practice. We talk about
what drills you want to do, because I'm not about
to get out there and do no.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Drills that that's not going to help me in the game.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
You gotta translate. I'm looking at dudes working out in
the offseason, these dudes working out with the wide out
prints and king routes and this and that. I'm like,
who is that dude? Why are we not seeing him
run rots in the league? If he if he know
all this? You know what I'm saying, And it don't
always mean that you had to play to be a
good coach. I'm not saying that, but when I see
a dude simulating a kick return and they throwing trash

(26:39):
cans at him, I'm like, what are we doing? How's
that making you better at football? So you could say
you're getting it in and yeah, you're doing just say
you're doing cardio because you're not getting better. It's better
than sitting at the crib, but you ain't getting better
a football and I'm not about to be having nobody
throw no trash cans at me in practice to simulate
a defender trying to tackle me. So having a guy
like E B and AP and being able to work

(27:02):
with a coach and situations like that, I feel like
it helps me be myself, which I can now share
that on you know, Trey Tucker or Jacoby Myers and
we work together that way, I can, you know, shed
all of the knowledge and the life that I have
and help them. Like it's not one meeting that go
by where we're watching practice tape and I'm sitting here
like this and I'm just sitting here just taking notes

(27:22):
on what I'm doing. At some point, I'm gonna be
a tuck like you if you're running this like make
sure right before you at the top, like I need
a real hard burst. He got to feel that you're
going deep. If you running that corner, pump stop or
whatever it is, that last piece you gotta sell that.
That's what's gonna get him to do it. Because these
dudes always ask me how you work on the releases,
like what drills you do? I say, you know what

(27:43):
I do. Every single time. I gotta somebody pressing. I
don't just take that as an opportunity to get lazy
and just run around him or do some bs of
the line. I'm working every single time. And what that does,
in turn is and still fearing that man because now
he know, oh, this is the guy with the releases.
So then half the time it just make it easy
because these dudes just retreat because they didn't see me

(28:04):
work so many dudes to where now it's just operation,
don't get abused versus try to be aggressive and really
stop them, and that just makes your job easier. When
you're in the driver seat.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Like that, everything should be to set up everything else correct.
I'm running, I'm running. I'm running. Trust me.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
When I run a particular route, Oh I got another
route in mind that I'm running out this. Oh you
just don't know it, but it's don't come up at
the fourth quote. Yeah, I promise you it is.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
And I don't talk to these boys about my mentality
like I run a route because you ain't gonna be
wide open on everything.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
So you gotta They get paid too.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
They get paid to man, they get to not like
about coach.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Hey, you gotta beat him on that.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I said.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
He got to check last week too.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I don't even know. So
I'm gonna share some lot on something that I've never
even shared. I've done a few podcasts, but I never
even shared this. But I talk to my teammates about it,
and I'll be telling the DB's too, and they just
laugh at me for it, but they understand and they
know it's a whole different it's a whole different cerebral
prose to this game that I have. I'll run a
comeback on you right here. You may see it a

(29:02):
little bit better than the next man, and get on it.
You might be in my hip pocket on it. Right
I'm gonna keep coming downhill and if I if that
quarterback don't throw that ball, I'm gonna stick my foot
in the ground so quick and make you think it
was a double move and kill you on that when
really it was just a comeback. But now your ass
think you got killed after you thought you was on
Met'm pumped it through the hand up and I'm jumping like,
oh the ball, I need the ball, when really you

(29:22):
guarded that winn you had to cover. But now your
ass thinking that seed. So now you it's gonna make
him different where I got come back. The next time,
he's gonna be a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Jumping it exactly. So let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
You you look a lot of people say you're you
know you're not one of the great rote runners in
today's game. I've studied you, I'll watched you. You one
of the great route runners of all time. And when
I talk rock runners, I'm talking about Jimmy Smith, I'm
talking about Keenan mccartill, talking about Flipper Anderson. My brother
was a great route runner. O Cho Sinko Ab. No
matter what you think about Ab, and he's dealing with

(29:56):
what he's dealing with. He's taking shots at me. But
I thought he was a phenomenal receiver. Fat was second
to none. Who did you study tape.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Man, it was, it was. It was a little bit
of everybody. Honestly, I'm the type of dude now that
I truly feel like, not that people didn't already know
Calvin Ridley and oh and these guys, but this this
is coop all the dudes. Like you got the guys
that's in the front, like you got the Julio's, the
A B's that obviously you can't help but to watch
that tape. But when I'm watching it, like if you

(30:26):
want to go a little bit older, I mean like Santana,
like seeing seeing Santana and watching Santana Ocho and Andre
Johnson on YouTube at the park in Miami in like
two thousand and seven, and young ab was there with
them with the with the you know, the little body
yet a little weird. However, like I'm watching I'm thinking

(30:46):
about stuff like that. Where I'm watching Santana Moss do
his thing, I'm watching Calvin Ridley. I might turn on
some you know whoever. It might be a dude that's
a number three receiver. It's a it's a dude that
was over and uh and you gotta forgive me for
forgetting his name and on the in the moment. But
the dude that was over and with the Falcons slot

(31:09):
dudes a little, a little smaller dude just just recently
though he was he was just there. But guys like
that that I'm I'm I'm watching and and you may
not even these dudes ain't gonna be on Sports Center,
but I'm watching what he doing because that could help
me create weapon XS where I grab a piece of that.
I watch Calvin because I want to see a dude
go up and snatch the ball. Daz is a dude
that I grew up really studying because just watching you

(31:31):
talk about a dog going up and getting in just
just a different type of aura out on the field
like that, that type of swag that you carry. That
that helped me add to the type of player and
the type of aura that I got on the field
that I feel like that as you know that that
helps you too. Some dudes come in and they they
worried about you, and they already mentally psyched out and
scared because they didn't seen the tape and then they

(31:52):
feel you on the field like that too. And the
way you walk around and you walk around like you
really that that that dude I mean, then you know
it's gonna make them. They sitting there, I'm watching them
do their little backpedal and they peeking watching me run
my rotes and warm ups, and I turn around and
I'm damn show looking at you the whole way. But
I'm not looking at you to evaluate you. I'm looking
at you so you know I'm looking at your ass
and I and I'm here because I know you're watching me.

(32:14):
So it's that type of feel like I get a
little bit from different guys in different ways to kind of,
you know, blend it together and make me.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Let me ask you this. I had a problem. You
know what you used to bug me. I catch seven
hundred balls in practice. It then come game time they
throw me three. And then on some weeks I go,
I get like five balls the whole week, and then
y'all throw me for it.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I'm like, bro, I need some consistency that I need
some consistency that I hate that, And honestly, to be honest,
I never really had to deal with that too much,
especially with Aaron, because you get you. We practiced the
way the way we play right and the way that
both of us got the reason why I walk around
on Sunday. The way I do is because I did
it a million times. Jerry Rice came to the house.

(32:57):
I did a panel with him in twenty eighteen. We
shoot it back and forth and talk to him. I
asked him in twenty eighteen Super Bowl Atlanta. I said, like,
why it just looks so easy for you out there?
Like what was it? Like, what's the secret as to
why you.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Go out there?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
You catching every ball, get the get the the yak
yards and all this, Like what was it? He said?
I never caught the ball because I saw it. I
caught it because I saw it before. So them them
them reps, and just that repetition of this ain't the
first time where you run it down the field and
I'm running the post. And it then been times where
it's like a quick flash of practice where I really
remember catching that ball, and it's like almost like a

(33:31):
sense of deja vu, because I take those reps so
serious that it makes it that much easier, you know,
come games on.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's something you probably never seen. Jerry Dye for a ball.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
I can't. I can't channel one. He didn't he didn't
have some boys that can throw it, that's for sure.
But inn in Seattle. He's probably too old to be
on that. That might have been the only time.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
So did you ever go hey, did you ever go
to did you ever tell Aaron? Or do you go
to the court?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Eight?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Give me a look on this one on dred percent.
I never really had to, but there's been time. The
one time, and we've already talked about this so I
can say it. But the game winner twenty seventeen, right
after I came back from a concussion, I got smacked
by Danny Trevathan. I don't know if you remember that,
the lay and then we had it like four days later,
had to go play on a Thursday, on a Sunday

(34:23):
or whatever. It was the second to last play of
the game. He throw me a fade. So I think
it's like twelve thirteen seconds left in the game or
something like that. Throw me a fade and he threw
it quick and too high, and so I go up spinning,
but I can't get it. I'll run back to the
huddle and he get ready. He getting the call. I said,
I said throw it again. I said throw it again.

(34:44):
He never heard me had that type of energy. I
said throw it again, and I just started leaving the
huddle like, I'm not I only want to hear the play.
We need to do that again, he said, reloaded, did
it again, waited a second, threw it right before Lewis
turned his head just a little bit lower right here,
back shoulder, called a spinning through that thing. Six grand later.
I had to pay for that in the stands. But

(35:06):
having those type of moments is what really like led
to us being who we ended up being. Was challenging
each other and me not being afraid, knowing that we
have that type of connection to say, hey man, And
for a guy like Aaron, he like, I ain't had
too many dudes come back and tell me what to do.
So that that that's confidence, and that just displayed confidence
and that led to him. You know, and when you

(35:28):
have those moments, those are the most gratifying moments because
if I tell him to do that and then I'm
gonna mess it up, now you look stupid and it
ain't gonna work, and that that could that could really
hurt you long term. Let me ask you this, were
you do you talk on the field. You're talking about
like trash. Look, I really I do, and I don't.

(35:49):
I used to a lot when I first got in,
like I kind of was chilling and trying to figure
it out. Then once I started figured it out, I
started talking, Like in college I was, I was a
big shit talk. Then it got to a point where now, man,
I find like I don't I don't want to I
don't want to sound bad saying this, but I find
value in just like almost looking through some dudes man

(36:09):
like boys be out there trying to talk. Like it's
certain people that I talk to like like like not
playfully in the sense that we're talking, but it's like
a like a like a respect thing. Like me and
Sauce was playing like we're gonna say some stuff to
each other, like he make a player or whatever. We're
gonna say something to each other. But it ain't like
I want to fight this dude after this or whatever.
It's more like just to two outphas going at it.

(36:30):
You're gonna have some interaction or whatever, but it's never
nothing that's too crazy. But to the point now where
if you if I feel like you don't need to
be talking to me, like you ain't there like That's
that's how it was with Richard Sherman, my rookie year, like,
I see this dude out there talking or key to leave.
I see the way they was talking to dudes, and
I'll be like, okay, it's about to be one of
them games. I get in there and them boys wasn't
even entertaining me. I was like, that felt different for me.

(36:54):
I'm like, Okay, this man every game he got a
guy like he in his head, he talking, but he
not even you know, he like, I'm not gonna get
it to this dude like he he ain't.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
He ain't worth worth words exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
And that's how they and that's what I felt, at
least that's how I took it. So I said, I
didn't get to the point where I'm gonna start making
dudes feel like that you want to talk, I'm like,
I hear somebody ain't gonna say what team he was,
but I hit somebody last year. I'm going back and
forth with a dude that I have respect for. So
we we talking kind of on the same type of thing,
a sauce. It was a little nasty, but that's kind
of how me and him would get down in the game.
And then somebody else came around that was that was

(37:27):
also a good player. He said something. So I start
getting on him and I'm kind of getting in him
a little bit, and and his his teammate he kind
of like trying to like, you know, put his hand
in between like like all right that like you chill whatever.
And then another dude came over said something, I'm musa
did that to him.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
He oh, all right, all right, all right he did.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
And then and then his teammates got the lab They said, bro,
go back to the huddle, bro, And I'm like, get
him like a stat of grown folks business that type
of you know what I mean. You know, growing up,
your dad will be like, hey, don't you can't be
in the living room right now, like you go down
there and sit it in for a minute. That's how
I feel like. I'd rather do them like that. You know,
if you're worthy, then maybe I will. But even for

(38:08):
the most part, man, I'd just rather get out there
and just ball. Like game hard enough to and I
play too many players to be out there messing around
talking to you all day.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I know there are the conversation being held Offston River
said he no thirty dudes in the NBA right now,
the go play NFL. Yeah, he said, but it ain't
nobody in the NFL that could play in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, that's look, I ain't trying to go viral. Look
I'll say this. I understand what he's what he's saying.
These NBA dudes are extremely athletic. They be six eight
and being able to move similar to what the football
player will be doing out there. But we're not talking

(38:51):
about going and doing a combine. Were talking about the
physicality that come.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
With to go play in an NFL game and.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Being enough to understand, Like, if my dad run out
there and just fall on the ground right now, he
gonna be hurt. Yes, Let alone getting hit and then
falling on the ground, Like I think, like, just think
about somebody that you know that even even when you
were in the league, somebody that was your age, Think
about them just getting hit, let alone, Like that's not

(39:20):
even the fall apart. Think about any people you know
that the failed and got hurt. Let alone getting smacked and.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
You fall on top of you, You fall on the ground,
the ground hard, you fall that hurt and dude fall
on top of you.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Boom boom boom boom boom. But all of that is
going on and that's what the whole game is. Yes,
these dudes ain't getting out of one football game, let
alone talk about being able to play in the NFL.
There's zero shot. I don't know who I will pick.
You could look at some of the physical specimens. You
got some Julio looking dudes in the in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Baby, But I'm saying that they had had look, had
Lebron or Russell, Westbrooker some of these other guys chosen.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
That's different. But did you just go and say, oh,
here the hells go play?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
No, sir, No, I can't get behind that and say
that now. It's it's a it's a hard enough argument.
And I'm not here to say more. NFL could go
to the NBA versus the other way around. But if you,
if you ask me, I know a handful of guys
that that I know could have made that you know.
And I'm saying even done this from the initial point right,

(40:24):
not like now like it's tough man like.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
First of all, you gotta be big as hell, and
all the big dudes is the big dudes in the NFL.
So what you you ain't gonna put codin Miller, He's
six eight. But who who he gonna go guard on
the on the perimeter.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Nobody.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
That's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, Like
I'm not I'm not gonna see an act like it's easy.
But I could have did it.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
But but I think I think football players are the
most athletic. They can jump the highest, they can run
the fastest, they're the strongest, and they're the toughest. I'm
not saying that other other sports, baseball or whatever sports,
but I'm talking about if you talk about athlete athlete football, baseball, basketball, football,

(41:05):
As far as vertical jump, because we vertical jump standing still,
they get a step.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
They run a jump, they get a run, even for
the combine.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
For the combine. As far as flat out speed a billit, Oh.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
No, yeah, it's not even close these dudes. Like I said,
the physical aspect is just one piece. But then we
get into the speed, and you know they agile, but
just being able to move on grass is different.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
And plus y'all got like four players in basketball, we
got one hundred and fifty. We got to a dude,
try to knock your block off.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
And we're gonna change the play. You might get three
calls in the huddle too. These boys don't even be
going to college for more than five minutes half the
time in the NBA, so I don't know how much
they gonna be able to retain.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Like, yeah, we got too much. We got too much
of our plate.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'm telling you, who's your favorite n b A player
Damian Lillard?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Damn, that was quick. Yeah, because he's from the bail.
You just like his game or that's your his game,
remind you of your game.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
First of all, that's like my brother, so so I like,
like there's the there's a sense of loyalty there. But
then when you talk about like if I had to
go pick ten dudes to go to like physical war with,
like like, that's one of them boys, he gonna be
frontline with me and he because he we just we
cut from the same cloth. So that's the anybody that

(42:21):
got the same type of mentality, been through the same
type of stuff, from the same area. So we we
experienced a lot of the same things and share a
mindset and just the style like we we we ain't celebrities.
We people know me because of football. They don't know
me because I'm a fashion icon or whatever. I mean,
I be dripped out, I got it on. You see.

(42:42):
It's but they don't know me because they know me
because of football. And it's a lot of dudes out
here that that are known from a lot of other.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Stuff, and you know, you want to be known as
a football.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Player, and that's and that's who he is. He like,
I want to be the best to do what I do,
or at least the best version of myself, and I'm
gonna make everybody around me better. We've had very similar past,
you know, around the same age, and and we just vibe.
So it obviously helps it being cool with a dude. Yeah,
you know, but before it was even to that point,
Like I've always been a huge fan of him going

(43:13):
to a school that wasn't the biggest school and then
you know, coming into the league and doing what he did,
you know, basically changing what people think about a school,
like like we were like that's basically how they feel
about Fresnel now. Like Fresnel was known for being the
tough guys, but it wasn't like they producing talent like
like top level all time.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Y'all known for like garlic or something as avocados, chill.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I don't know it's definitely agriculture. We had asked school like,
but uh, yeah, it is what it is. But but yeah, Dane,
we share we share a lot of the same values, mentality,
the way we feel about our family, our kids and
and everything. So I mean, it's really not even it's
not close.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Who's the goat nba.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Ah man, I forgot you, Brad George got ah bad?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Oh bad?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
This man right here, bar none you got, you got
your you got your Lebron's And I love Bron so
Lebron bron is is a is a different type of
dude man. And and I love Kobe. I got mama
mentality on on the inside of all my cleats, and
it's it's a piece of all these guys that I
that I love. But when you talk about just I
mean that he Randy Moss for me.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
It's a little late now it ain't gonna happen. Do
you wish you could have like had a son earlier
enough that you're in the NFL and he in the
NFL too, What would that be.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Like for you?

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Oh my god? Well, first of all, I don't know
when I would. I ain't got that many years to
play this get league well, I'm saying even from the beginning,
I ain't gonna playing that damn long to where they But.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Ye, Joe Twitter, you had to be like Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
You're right right. I will say I wish that maybe,
like all I wanted was a healthy baby on my
first job, Yeah, that was what was most important. But
I wish that if I could have chosen, it would
have been a boy first, because I feel like a
boy at this point, like my daughter being in school,
people starting, her classmates starting to know who I am
and what's going on, and I feel like, not that

(45:15):
she doesn't care about that and it's not cool for her,
but I feel like naturally a boy would enjoy that
and take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, you could take him in the locker room.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
You can have him on the sideline and he get
like Steph Curry, like Steph Curry his day, like he
did with his day exactly, you know, on the shoot
and shoot a round and doing all this.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
The boxes in the ring and got their sons. Like
a little baby girl being there, but she's just gonna
be in there just because daddy in there, But some
gonna be in there like really like seeing like he's
gonna be like, Okay, that's on the field. Okay, that's
that's uh, that's Jayleen Ramsey over there. Like I want
him to be able to soak it in and really
know my daughter don't care about Jayleen Ramsey, you know
what I'm saying. And and and I want my son

(45:53):
to be really dialed into the game while I'm in it,
to be able to you know, we're gonna be around
the game as long as I'm here, so he's still
gonna be able to be there. But I want him
to have been like people like I'll tell you about
my dad. I never really saw my dad go to
work like that, So I like, I hear about all
the legends and all of that, but I'd be like, damn,
I just wish I would have been able to like
experience that all y'all saying about that, Like if my

(46:15):
son was able to see me play and be you know,
seven eight, you know years old, watching like in be
in school and really know, like my dad really is
the best at what he do. I feel like, do
you wish you'd had the son earlier?

Speaker 2 (46:28):
So are you gonna still have by this? Are you
gonna stick around long enough? So he can see what.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Dad does see that.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
That's the main other question. I feel like that's like
the one of the main questions I get in gentle now,
how much how much you got left? Because I feel
like you could whatever, you know, it could be this
or that, And I say, man, I truly can't say
that this game has given me a lot. I still
feel incomplete since you know, obviously haven't haven't horsed that
trophy yet. But I can't really give a full answer

(46:55):
of how much longer I'm gonna do it. But you know,
if it keeps looking the like how it's supposed to,
if we can get it back looking how it's supposed to. Rather,
I think you know I got I got a little
bit more and left in me, so we should be
able to keep pushing.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
How about this, I'm gonna get you out here. I
want to ask you two questions. Give me your mount
Rushmore basketball, give me your Mount rush More.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Football wideouts football or no you player you could do.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I'm gonna ask you your top five wide outs you
can do all time and you can do current, But
I want you to give me your mount rush More
NBA players, Mount rush More NFL players.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Okay, always you know, for his who I think is
the greatest of my favorite NBA.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Give me, give me your whoever how you want to listen.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Okay, okay, okay. Obviously MJ at the top, I probably go.
I'll probably go bron second Cod For me, my my
favorite basketball player growing up was Alan Everson. So and

(47:59):
that's that's where I get to shake from and and
what I brought over to the.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Football world as well.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
So so for me, AI is gonna be probably fourth
and fifth. I could throw in my other favorite, which
is probably gonna shock a lot of people, welln't they shouldn't.
But if if you know me in the way that
I played basketball, Darren Williams was was one of my.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Favorite basketball players.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
So yeah, so that's that's that's that's the guys that
I that I liked the most. If I had to
do the greatest, it will maybe just probably swap out
the fifth and.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Got magic bird Janni is kd shot.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Uh Yeah, I probably I probably have to say I was.
I was going back and forth. I was going back
and forth. See I'm and and forgive me on the
outside world if if y'all don't feel the same way.
But I never have felt obligated to throw in old
greats just because they were founding fathers. I truly think

(48:59):
that you got to put the best basketball players. And
if I feel that, you know, this guy is better
than then Magic or better than and I'm not saying
specifically him, but whoever, I'm gonna say who I feel
like I like the most. So I didn't watch Kareem
the way that maybe you watch Creer, So I'm not
gonna put Kareem in there. He's by far one of

(49:19):
the best of all time. And that's I mean, the
numbers say, the legend all of that. But if I'm
picking for me, I would probably say shack over over
Kareem for me.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Not gonna get much argument from that. Okay, give me
a mount rushmore wide.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Receivers, Randy Jerry, Calvin too, probably Marvin.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
You only get four.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Oh that's oh, I think you said top five. He
said top five.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I'm gonna let you have top I'm gonna let you
have top five wide receives. So your top five wide
receiver all the time is Randy Jerry, Yeah too.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Megatron, Calvin Calvin third, Calvin third.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
T O four too, four, and Marvin Harrison field.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yep, that's that's where I'm at with my top five.
And I guess, I guess, uh, we're gonna put Marvel
on the bench if it's just in the rush of.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
So bar got Marve, we got to come in if
somebody get hurt getting it.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Hey man, I think he'll understand what I'm getting at.
You know, I love the fact that I'm saying his name.
I mean, it's a lot of receivers to play this game,
so it's it's real tough. And that's another one that
I was kind of on the on the tail end
of being able to watch, and I still have them
in my top five. So that's it. That should tell
you as me being you know, I'm thirty one years old, right,
I feel like most people are gonna be talking about
Marvel gonna be forty one years old.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Give me your top five wide receivers currently playing the
tape with me, and you.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Can put yourself in there. You can leave yourself out.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Well, well, I ain't leave myself. We're talking about if
you want the best, I want the best, I want
separate list, then I can. I can leave myself out.
But if you saying the best one seven you're probably
gonna go eighteen after that. See the thing is this, man,
I feel like jets Is he kind of changes. But

(51:18):
over the last six years, it's only been one person
that people can't take out of that top three, and
that's me. So I feel like, if you're putting, if
you're talking about my favorite right now, I would say
ceed Lamb is probably gonna be third for me. Fourth.
I put CD fourth, freak third, and and fifth is

(51:40):
always the hardest one for me because it's too many dudes.
Man's It's not like when I came in the league,
you had the same top three guys, was like the
ones that get talked about. And now it's such a
it's such a passing game. And these dudes is taking
whatever they taken before before they start getting tested and
they stay in their system forever and they just turned
into superheroes early on where you got you know, Jamar Chase,

(52:06):
I probably have to put Chase at at five. Him
him him are him are? I don't know, my my
my egos boys over there, they be doing their thing too,
but I probably yeah, aj is he another one that's
real consistent and just can ball on and do it.

(52:28):
So many different ways too. I always ask people when
you when you're doing your top your top five, it's
third and eight and it's man and man coverage in
the boundary. That's what I'm choosing it off of. I'm
not choosing off of just production. I'm choosing off of
who gonna get open when I need them to get
open man and man coverage or you know, provided to
get doubled.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Do you like versatiling They can play, they can play Z,
they can play slot, they can do it all.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
You everybody that I listed does do that. And and
that's that's how I feel because I'm I'm I'm you know,
starting twenty seventeen, and that's when I started really getting
in a slot like that, right, And I feel like
if you can't get it, I feel like it's harder
to get outside. So I like, if you are only
a slot guy, it's hard for me to put you
as a yeah, Puture five receiver in the league because

(53:12):
once you get in there, it's just a lot less
room out there's you're a lot more limited on the
route you can run. So you got to be able
to really create separation and operating in the phone booth.
And that's you know, when I think about what's led
to me having a successful career, it's that exact thing.
So's I probably have to put Chase at that five
right now, just the way he played.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Coach you Belichick said, you're a Hall of Fame wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
You have eight hundred and seventy two catches, a little
less than eleven thousand yards, almost cripple digit touchdowns, ninety
five touchdowns. When it's all said and done, is DeVante
Adams are slam Dump first battle, Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
When it's all said and done, I think that there
shouldn't be a question about it. I think in today's
world that you not many dudes get they flowers at
you know, during so I think a lot of times
just like when people die and then they turn into
everybody's favorite rapper, that's how you start. You're posting everybody

(54:11):
listening in the Nipsey now and you know, five minutes
after he got killed, and it's like I never heard you.
I've been hanging out with you for ten years, nobody
mentioned and you always playing music. I ain't never heard
one Nipsy song come out of your phone. Now. That's
how I feel. I feel like That's how they kind
of do. Especially now it's getting a little water down
with so many successful White House right, it's starting to

(54:31):
take the value of you know, some of the things
I've done down and but I think, you know, provided
I keep doing it, you know, I have fifteen hundred
yards twenty one, fifteen hundred yards in twenty two. If
I do that two more times, now we in the
top ten all time, right, And it's only so many
people with over one hundred touchdowns, and I'm gonna have that,

(54:53):
hopefully in the first few games. So if you're looking
at the numbers, or if you're looking at the tape,
I truly lead. That's nothing to talk about.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
What can we expect from the Netflix series wide Outs?
They follow you, they follow you, uh jj kittle debo
and say Alma, say Brian.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
What can we expect? What is what is the.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Audience not the Raiders audience, but what is the audience
as a whole that doesn't know Davante that probably wasn't
Packers fan or not Raiders fan. What can they expect
to see from you in this film?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
You're gonna see just unfiltered. I mean, I had I
had a mic on me every single game, twice a
week in practice. They went in and followed some of
the some of the private life, taking my kids as gymnastics,
you know, birthday party at the house. They're gonna see
just just the real Tay And you know, you can
you can watch an interview and you can hear and

(55:45):
obviously I come on here with you doing stuff for ESPN,
you ain't gonna see the real nobody. But when you
when you you know, a little interview out of the game,
you just gonna get the postgame interview type person. But
you come on here, you see a little bit more
personality me sitting talking with you. But then the more
you get that unfiltered in the home, you know, going
around town and and they you know, day in the

(56:07):
life type type. You know that dog, They're gonna be
able to really see what I'm about and the way
that I talked, the way I think, and hopefully get
a lot more respect. And hopefully they already got a
lot of respect. But but you know, the people that
maybe don't truly understand what I'm about, they'll they'll be
able to get a real up close picture at that
because to be real with you, when.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
That mic was on.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
It was. It was on so much that you forget
the point that I didn't even think about it. And
they ain't telling you, hey, your mic is on, you
know whatever we get in the game, And I wasn't
sitting here saying something rob Rod like it was uh,
you know, like like how Jarvis did the boys on
h what's the what's the little hard knocks in the
room and he hit him with the I'm not doing
none of that too for the TV. None of it
was full TV. You got you ain't get nothing for show.

(56:51):
You got everything for show, you know what I'm saying.
So so like that that's that's what That's what you're
gonna get for me at all times. And I had
a couple of teammates that was having trouble with it
because I'd be they was spending like they was gonna
get in trouble when I'm sitting here being me on
the sideline, you know, displeased with a drive we had
or a call that was made or whatever. And I
don't even know exactly what's gonna be aired and if

(57:12):
you're gonna see certain things, but I'm gonna be me regardless.
So when that might get on there you just gonna
hear what would be happening all the time. So when
you in the fifth row and you see, you're gonna
now be able to hear what was being said. And
sometimes it's gonna be some good stuff and sometimes it's
gonna be some real passion. And I want them to
understand that that's that's the real me. And I wanted

(57:34):
to make sure that I told the people that came
to the house and to record the way they shot everything.
I said. I don't want no corny stuff on here.
I don't want nobody thinking that this is for TV
or whatever like Yeah, I want them to know that
whatever they get in here is is what they have
not seen yet. But what has been, you know, occurring
this entire time.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Tell you your marriage, You settled down and it seems like
you decided to get married at the early age. What
made you decide to do that and do Was it
hard for you to make that make that decision?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
It wasn't hard at all. I'm one of the first
people I met at Fresno State was my my wife
now and a great friend before we even got to
the point where were a boyfriend and girlfriend. So when
I came in I had a girlfriend from from high school,
so we couldn't really vibe the way we wanted to.
I got this beautiful girl that lived in the same
apartments as me, and we we were just truly vibing,

(58:28):
and you know, I respect it, and you know, not
that I would have been like this, but she not
the type of girl that would have been cool with
me trying to get at her with a girlfriend anyway,
So you broke it off with when that when that
fell apart, she had a boyfriend at the time, and
then it just so happened that, you know, and then
I was I was single, just chilling, hanging out. And
then when they when they stopped they thing, we ended

(58:49):
up hanging out as friends again and we would you know,
go eat. But it wasn't even dates. It was like
just legitimately kicking it. I walked downstairs. Her apartment was
like on the floor below me, and then like down
the hall a little bit.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Do you walk a little heavier when you was walking by,
like let her know that you covering by.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
I did, well, I'd be walking by her. Her her
bedroom was right by where I had to come in
my little gate to get into the stairs, so I'll
come through who I'm saying, make sure she knew I
was there, and walked through, and then you know, we
started hanging out, and I knew right away that this
was this is a really solid wifey material. You never
know right away if you're gonna marry the person, but

(59:24):
I knew this is wifey material for sure, Like never
been kissed. So I'm like this, I need to make
sure you the longer you go in life trying to
find one, they just going through more stuff. And then
now you gotta worry about what they've been doing the
last twelve years as an adult.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
So we got together when we were still kids, right,
you know, at this point, So because.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
You got to understand that when you married somebody, you
date somebody, you dating their childhood.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
You dating their childhood, and they passed and their adulthood yea,
and they gonna they're gonna fabricate some stuff now, especially
if they didn't been through something, so they're gonna fabricate
oh yeah, you know whatever. But it's it's a real truth,
and it's some people that know the real truth out there,
and I don't me being me, I don't need to
be worried about something like that. So, you know, honestly,

(01:00:05):
I never really picture myself getting married before the age
of thirty, and here I am, you know, engaged and married,
you know, by twenty six. So I'm like, this is
this is something solid, Especially me being me, it's not
easy finding somebody that just want to be around because
because you are who you are, like as a as
a true person, they want to be around you because
you are who you are in the public eye and

(01:00:27):
they want that the money or they want the attention
and the notoriety just to be around it. And I'm
not that type of dude. I don't I don't have
nobody in my camp. I rarely even kick it with
a lot of NFL dudes. I'm always with the people
I grew up with, so that's how I that's how
I get down and people I went to college with
and stuff like that. So it's just I just stay

(01:00:47):
true to myself. Man, I'm gonna find somebody that's that
match with me. Well, and just so happened to happen
real early, and I thank God for that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Really, I'm gonna get you out of here and this
what what do you guys have to do to dethrone
the Kansas City Chief.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
We're going have to win the Super Bowl for real.
I mean at this point, we beat them the last
time we played them, So we went out there day
after my birthday, played them on Christmas, and and that
was a great treat. Even though I didn't go out
there and have a great game, I was ecstatic. Last
time I played in that stadium. It was bad. We
lost the game. You know, I was able to step
on their neck a little bit, but we lost the game,

(01:01:23):
left the game and got in trouble. Did you know
I had this situation happen. So being in there on
Christmas with the squad, you know, you're a long way
from home, it's cold, and go in there and beat
them in their own stadium. That was a good feeling.
But the boys still win won the Super Bowl, so
they like, Okay, you won the battle, but we won
the war. So we got to we going have to
do a little bit more. And I think we got
the potential as a team. We just got to put

(01:01:44):
it all together.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Because what's it like seeing Patrick Mahomes play up close?
It's do people get a treat? Do people really understand
how great he is?

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
I think they do, because I think it's enough people
on TV making sure they do and do his job
to make sure that they see it consistently time at
the time, and he's a game changer. He didn't have
so many different times. The game that sticks out to
me is not last year, even the year before. It
was like three years ago. They was playing the Texans

(01:02:12):
in the playoffs and he was getting their head beat in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
They were down twenty four to nothing, and I'm watching.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I'm at the crib. We got a game, so they
played the early game. We got a game in Green Bay,
the little four, three fifteen whatever. So I'm watching this.
I'm like, these boys don got knocked out. I'm like,
all right, let me jump in the car, hopping the years,
of course. So I whip over to the stadium. I
go sit my backpack in the locker, wrap up, Aaron whatever.

(01:02:38):
Walk by, and they got you know, you walk in
the locker room. They got the game zone, just to
set the mood or whatever. I'm like them boys getting smacked.
They like, when the last time you seen the game?
I said, brou twenty minutes ago, what you mean? I
look at the TV. These boys is winning. I said,
what happened, bro, They said, Pat the Magician, he didn't
did it again? I said, all right, well, at this point,

(01:03:00):
ain't nobody ever feel good about a lead on on
on that team. You gotta you gotta play a full
game for them boys. And we did this last one,
but we don't have to do it quite a few
more times to dethrow on them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Devontae Adam, Lady and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Appreciation, brother, Thank you, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Wide receivers on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics, hustle, pay
the price, want slice, got the bro all my life.
I'll be grinding all my life, all my life, grinding
all my life, sacri fights, hustle, play the price, one
slice the bro all my life.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
I'd be grinding all my life.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Passssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss