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Speaker 3 (02:29):
You're doing good, brother Debo, coming off a great Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
How is your Thanksgiving? My brother? Oh? It was it
was good. Brother.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I can't complain. I got to sit down and watch
three games with football.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
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And now I ain't eat too much.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
That's the crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I ate and slept and woke up and ate again,
and slept and ate again.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm see I can't that that get that gave me
the three hundred. I can't do that no more.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I gotta put a little weight on me with Devo
and you know the food is slapping.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah for show, for the show. Yeah, where are you at?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Actually you got a little bit, you know, you know,
always I'm adaptable. Woke up, went to the crib this
morning ready for the show. Wi Fi completely down, so
I had to come to. I'm at my wife's mom's house,
you know, lovely got you know, some stuff together. I'm
in her lovely chair and the basement vibbed up. Okay,

(03:24):
that's what's up.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
The Bangles went out there and uh, you know, they
put it. They put it on the they put it
on the reds, Yes they did. Hey, listen, man, you're
board that that's my new favorite. Now still call it back, man,
I really appreciate it over there. Man, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, smoking smoking cigar, you know, Joe, Joe cool smoking
the cigar smack After the game, no question, no question.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Man Sinster Navy get up out there on their first
their first drive, and they go on ahead row Joe
out so y'all can see the move. Yeah, the token move.
He is Tenseley for eight yard completion. Next Brown I
think went for seven. Then second down, I think it
was a samples he got a short pass he took

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for like what fifteen fourteen something like that. Then uh,
I believe Brown got dropped.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
For like five.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, holy it was a holding. It was a holding.
First down Chase, he hits Chase for nine. I think
Brown converted on the first That next play, I think
it was like two yards and then bark Timore. They
stood up, you know, they beenned a little bit, but

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don't break. They hold him to a field goal. It's
three to nighthy. Lamar comes out immediately.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
What's the dude's name, Charlie Cooler Cooler, Yeah, bo.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
He hits him for like seventeen. Next play, Lamar to
likely for a hot game. Henry converts that one on
the third down for like four second. Donald Mark through
his thing. He gonna hand scramble for the hamstrings.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Good, you know, no slid.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I could tell he don't like the slide, but you
gotta start liking the slide.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
He yeah, he yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
For sure you can. You can look at it like
I'm an athlete. I'm like this, bro, we're saving yourself
because you don't want.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
To keep taking a new question. You don't want to
be getting bopped.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
No, we need Then that man went on ahead and
he went, what was it almost thirty for the tony.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Three yard toss, King Henry, you know, picking them knees up, Bro,
it's crazy. He passed Jim Brown now in the yards
Like I didn't really realize, you know, he was doing
it in Tennessee for a minute, but like consistently getting
thousand and fifteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
So yeah, shoutout King Henry.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
When when they done turned that thing into you know,
one of those passing, you know it's gonna turn into
a real, real past.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know what, there ain't too many more than my weekends.
That's really just toting that pill.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
The Bengals get out there and they, uh Baltimore said,
hold up, let's really test it. Let's check sack corner
blitz corner blitz sack. They sacked, They sacked Burrow he
get up. I'm trying to see him, like, get up there,
get up. They hold him, they hold him down. They
end up forcing the three and out. The Ravens get
back out there, dude. Yeah, this was just the tricky Yes,

(06:34):
the sack fumble recovery at the Baltimore Moore six by
the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Bro Bro, I think he was not three. It was
at the three. He was at the three brother three
or the two.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was saying like he was right inside of the fire.
He was underneath the fire the two like three two
and a half.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Matter of fact, it was the two because as they
ended up holding them and they went for it on
fourth down, it was turnover and down.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
R Listen, dudes have to talk about putting and half
talk about de bo. This is what you talk about.
This is what you say. This is when you're like this,
you talk about a blade of grass. If you have
a blade of grass to the fan a blade blade bro, Yes, yes, yes, okay,
Bravens get it. And they started at their two yard line, yep.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Because that on that third down, Lamar miss Flowers host
they ended up they ended up going to three and out.
It really didn't matter that they got that little false
start before they punted, but it was an extra.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
He was already at he's already heels on the heels
on the back, Yes, yes, heels on.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's the worst position, bro, You know what, I threw
it over punter's head like that. I wasn't even it
wasn't even heels on the back. He just couldn't anywhere
man hamstring.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know. Cincinnati ended up getting the ball midfield.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I believe they got to about a third and six
and that's when they got that that false start. But
then Burrow he moves around the pocket, does his does
his thing, showing all the toe.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Good. He hit the boy chase for that was the
secondary route. He ran a dig. He was able to escape, so.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Then he was able to break back out to go
to the sideline. So it was good, good, goodbye Burrow
being able to create more time.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
And then when they got to the fourth and one
and they just did a straight quarterback sneak, I'm like, oh, yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
To good talking about his talking about he put his
left foot back with the broke toe to get more back.
Say he pushed off the toe. I'm like, okay, you
must yeah, yeah, and you see they were showing that
big ass thing he was wearing inside of his shoe.
He kept switching the shoes to get his toe was comfortable.
I said, I know that hurt.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Then on that second down, like that could have been
a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's my man, My man was out there. Tinsley this
he was out there some. That's the thing about having
some very Sometimes you got Jamar Chase and now he's
taking t higgins spot.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's the difference between Tinsley and Higgins.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
When you got that second receiver over there, not trying
to knock him, but I was like, bro run the
fade ball.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
You chilling like Humphrey jumped down, like.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Why did you stop?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You see this cornerback jump something like like the ball.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, that's your quarterback playing
that man.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
He's throwing you wide open all the way.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Like all he had to do is like you know
he ain't really it's Burrow's first time back, but you
still should never stop on the route like he should
be killing that thing.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
And he looks hit him, hit him in his hands,
no question, no question.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Then on third down, Burrow, get up out of that sack.
I'm like okay, oh yeah, flip. He do a little
flip to the running back. They get to the fourth down,
they got to settle for the field, spring up they
would they might have picked the s if people to
throw it. Yeah, it might have been in trouble. It
might have been trouble. It's six seven Baltimore. I think

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they get out there. I think they convert. Like maybe
it was two first downs. I think one was a
third down where Lamar scrambled, and then that next play
after he scrambled though he missed uh.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
One high like that could have been a huge fide
open Davonte Walker, right, yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
And the other first down I think they made was
a second to ten that Mitchell took like twelve bills
checkdowns yep, yep. And then bro, they get to that
second down, he hit likely on the short cross this
dude forty four yards for the tuddy and instead of

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just holding onto the ball, squeezing it your your momentum,
mis go drop you.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Forward, he tries to pull it out and stretch it
over the How about though, debo, how about that get likely?
I bugged out out bound out? How about the effort?
How about the reach? How about the punch.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Can't stop.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
It's every blade debo. I was like, every just you
try to go tackle his legs. They're going for the
ball because that's gonna be a touchback. Like that's Those
are good football players making plays like like not not
thinking nothing's ever over.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Like those are the teammates I want not stopping.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, every like you said, every blade of grass comets
to Cincinnati gets the ball back because it bobbles out
the back, So they get the ball. I think at
the twenty the first play, they get a holding penalty.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
They go to like what is it?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
First to twenty and Burrow completes. I think it's like
the next two downs he gets nineteen in the back like.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Third and one the runner back.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
He commerges that easily, I think for like three and
then Burrow to.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
That arms over bag dad bro That man Jamar Chase
is nice and he threw a late hands.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
He did a little, he did a slight he did
did hey. I like to let it play me too.
They both are handy, they both handed, they both both
what's handsy? What nothing over? The aggressive with it? You me.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Being the d B two Like watching these fade classes,
watching these like hand fighting.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
You can push, you can tell us the dB.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But if if he gives you a little something like ah,
he got me, that's not a flag, that's not a foul,
you know what I'm saying, Like any of these little
chicken wings. He's a pro throwing late hands. Give me
a little a little rock with lake hands, you know
what I'm saying, Like, that's what Chase did.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
So that was a great play by the wide receiver.
You can't that's not no no p I. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
They get the mangles, do a false start on second down.
They end up getting to a third and ten and
who borrow find again.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
And that's when Chase broke.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
They're double covering them. They got a man on the
corner underneath in the safety on the top. He hit
him with the post, snapped that thing back outside and
bro Burrow hit the ball right in between them.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Great ball.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I'm like, you're getting double covered and he's still hitting
you with the with y, you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's just good.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's good, on good, good on.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Good all day. End up stalling out. They settled for
a field goal. I believe it's nine to seven now,
Baltimore get out there. I think it was like second down,
Lamar extends to play again, you know he likely I
think bro first down Flowers, I think.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
He gets get Yeah, he get the O P. I
what do you think? Do you think I see this
one here? You don't have to do it like that.
I think he he you open? Yes?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh yeah, that's no question. Like you you didn't zay, Like,
I don't think they understand how to just like give
it that.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Just just hold him out.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah distance yeah, no, like, don't don't push, just hold
him at a distance like you're trying to.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Like, you know, like when you get like you like
like I said, it's a it's a it's a you're
place in your hand instead of like really shoving.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
You could place your hand you want when you start
extending like damn. So I mean that was that was
only say.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I think you're you're wide open, take no question? Yeah, yeah,
that was that was automatic. Yeah that they had to
call it. There's no other man you got. They end
up getting to a first and twenty make a few yards,
but on third down the Marcus sack again. Oh see
where did this Bengals defense come from?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Man?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I had no idea. I was watching the game and
I'm like, bro, like, lamar, you won't you know what
I'm saying. Obviously, it's the it's the Cincinnati defense. They're
historically bad. You're gonna go down there and do what
you gotta do. These dudes was making plays, keeping them
in the pocket, like you know what I'm saying. And
DB's too, even though sometimes it was a tough. It

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was tough, tough cooking, but they was out there trying
and make it work.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, dude, they end up having to punt through rock.
Cincinnati gets out there first, down the Brown, he gets
twelve yep, and then what they do penalty false start?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Was that, you know Orlando Brown false starting a little
bit like even then they didn't call you know, him
jumping early a lot of players.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
And I'm like, dang, you could you could throw the flag?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
What does he retire? Yes, dude, they've been letting these
tackles move early so much. I knew I wasn't dre
if you was to slow that stuff down there they're
moving before the ball. It's just that it's so close.
After the ball moves, the ref is kind of undecided,
like did he move or and.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I think the ref sometimes like he threw two in
a row and then was I can I keep on
throwing the flat?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I'm throw kill jumping, he's moving through the.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Flat movements second to teen, borrow his I think it
was tenseley for what was it fourteen? But after that
they end up stalling out. They punted the rock. Now
Baltimore comes out.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Forty six seconds left, debo thirty six seconds left before
the half.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Okay, two timeouts?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, and he They end up recovering it, dude at
the Waltim team wasn't it wasn't it Baltimore fifty nineteen nineteen? Okay,
they recovered at the Baltimore nineteen bro Cincinnati gets out
there and cannot do nothing. The defense puts out fires

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another field goal. They end up only going twelve to
seven in the halftime, right Baltimore and Neil Loud they
go twelve seven in there because they getting the ball
back and the Bengals defense come out there immediately at
the beginning of the third quarter and show up a
four A three. Yes, I'm listen, I'm I'm happy they won,

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and you.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Go know why. I'm happy they one at the end,
But where the hell did the cup with did this
come from? I haven't listen.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
When you get you a player back like Joe Burrow,
it puts confidence everywhere on your team. It brings everybody up.
And that is what I think we saw.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Dude, Cincinnati goes.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Back out there, gets the ball, immediately goes like ten
plays sixty one yards for a touchdown. They stay ahead
of the change, Burrow start running avoiding sacks using this
fee you go with that, plus I think they ended
up having like a fifteen to twenty yard pass in appearance.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
What's the dude's name, peer, p Ryan?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, p Ryan. He was, he was, he was, he
was doing a little something here and there. And then
Burrow did you see the little did you see the
little running dead bro? I ain't gonna lie. He looked
like he might have had a little bit of running
back back in the day. And then like just scared,
just trying to get through that. Yes he has he
had a little vision, but he had a little scary

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in him too.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
At the time.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
A little bit of more yeah, and then Burrow finished
the thing with a nice one fourteen yards to Husting
with the one hand catch.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Good Maccy Hamilton in good position in good space. But
that's a waits catch, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Like again another one where they let it play a
little bit of hand fighting, you know what I'm saying.
But that's good on good. That's a great ball place
Kyle Hamilton.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's what only he gonna be able to catch it
and be able to one hand and get two feet in.
So like that's just good on good And then making
the play.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, it's what seven, seven and nineteen? Yeah, I'm thinking that.
I'm thinking to get the sideways and damn Baltimore finally
answerous Andrews for nineteen. Then it's Henry for eight again,
Henry for seven second down? Is Henry for seven?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Third down?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
The mass takes it, I think, well nine yug and
then Mitchell for the eighteen yard touchdown.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
And Jay Flowers blocking his ants off? Did you see
him one?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
And then in his back I'm like, oh, get off?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
He doing?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
He doing, he doing? You know who taught him that?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
One of the dirty offensive lineman then like to jump
on people's back that.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
He told him. I'm like, get off from day, get
off for that was good work right there. This boy
in some type of way, so they went, I was
to touch it it nineteen fourteen. Now we got a fight.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
We got a fight on her hands. Cincinnati, get back
out there, man, man bro I think it was Burrow
the brown nine, and then it was he he.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Was, he he was. He went for twelve.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Third down Burrow hit chased for like fifteen. I think
it was the next third down with the yo yoh
that's his name, Yo Shava y your shavas twink and
nine touchdown.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Over Roman Smith. That was a good ball too, I
mean the back of his head. Bro.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
He back like he back in the first game. It
ain't even like like he picked up where he left.
Let Borrow, you know, twinky six twink is six twenty
six fourteen, right, demo get out there and they go
and get a whole on the first play first, which

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they was they was ahead of the sticks.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
What y'all doing a little? And then what happened? They
get that thing to King Henry that that man that
got They gotta keep their leverage.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
They had three people, they had three people, and buddy
want to come like you got it's it's it'side, man.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
He ran right around your ass and falls for a
whole a whole half football field, football field on y'all.
You know what I'm saying. And they had it was
first and twenty for a checkdown.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, yes, bro, second down, lamars up hitting Hopkins. I
think that was the first catch he had, like first
catch of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then second
down they pressured him, ended up having I think right away.
And then on that third and nine at the Cincinnati fifteen. Yeah,

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tip pass in the conception and they return it to me.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Tips and overthrows. Man, they don't hit the ground.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Tips overthrows. Hey, when you hit the ground, they hit
the ground. You're you're the happiest person in the world.
Defensive That thing's tipical, and.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
We always have n't hit the ground for some reason.
I don't know what I know. We gotta be pursuing.
When the ball's moving.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
You think if somebody just caught it, start running, start
running over there, something good could happen, Something really good
could happen.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
The ball might pop to you.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah. So they ended up I think converting like maybe
one first down. They get to like a third and
two and they just get stuffed. Yeah, lost come out there.
He hit her, Yeah, he hit a He hit a
fifty two yard field goal. It's now was twenty nine
to fourteen. Baltimore gets back out there. I think they

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converted on the third down because of holding.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
On the dB.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, and then the next play he missed Walker deep again.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
That was like was that that that was the d
B too.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I mean he put a hand in the basket. That's
I mean it was a great throw. He didn't like
right that same time, perfect time, So I couldn't say no,
I'm talking about the one missed. That next play, he
missed Walker. He could have he could have had him deep,
but he uh, he couldn't.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah yeah. And then the next third
down after that, they had a false start and they
went forward on on the fourth down and they almost
got picked on that one.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
They turned it over on downs on it everybody. He
couldn't look like he couldn't get off the ground. He
just smacked the ball, got a little PBu mm overing
down if he dude, if he had got the full, Yeah,
he got the full.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
That was really s Yeah. Cincinnati got out there.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I think Brown the first play was like eighteen and
then the next one I think it was almost ten,
and I think Baltimore. On the third and one, they
get a penaltrayal encroachment, and old buddy, he said, I
want to make it interesting. The next third down he.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Cossed the pill up. I thought it was like a
misman due handoff. He got it. Oh, he took it.
He handed it to him, and he handed it back
to him. Exactly, he gave it to me. I'll I'll
give it to you.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
That's exactly what Baltimore, Baltimore, that you're back out there.
After the fourth down conversion, they returned the favor. On
the first down, Flowers fumbles the rock gives it right
back to Cincinnati. Cincinnati the question Cincinnati put little extra
on it by making the field goal thirty four fourteen

(25:04):
over with yeah, it don't it don't it don't matter, Ravens, Yo.
You just they got too many turnovers? Well was it
five turnovers? Bru It is hard to come back from that.
Like even with your defense putting out fires, I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
About not fire fire.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
These boys was putting out right, these boys was putting
out forest fires.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm talking about ten alarm fires all over. You had one.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Fumble that they got at the two yard line going
in and no points on that.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
It was turnover on downs, bru.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
The other fumble was at the nineteen going in, they
gave up a field goal. The other one was at
the thirty six going in, they gave up a field goal.
The interception they gave up only I think twenty yards
on that one and that was a field goal. And

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the biggest one was the fumble they had down there.
They drove like almost ninety yards and still like only
gave up a field goal. Man, Like on top of
just that right there, like you gave up points that
should have went on the board. The fumble at the
gold line, you can't come. That was a whole flip

(26:22):
that ended up being like a ten point flip because
they didn't get to seven and then they ended up
driving down ninety yards to get three like the.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Bengals Just, dude, they did was necessary, Dude.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
They just dominated the time of possession, the defense, the defense.
They came in and did things. They actually got off
on third down. Like they got off on.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Third downs, dude. Like they did what a defense is
supposed to do, dude.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Put out fires, forest fires, raging fires, dude, that's what
a defense goes.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Bro Like that job.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm talking about they putting out fires in the Sahara
desert with dirt and dust.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
They putting out.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Five I'm dirt br like. That's what we need to do, man,
as these Steelers, if we are going to go and beat.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Bruh, we have to perform on defense. Here you do offense,
don't get me wrong, the offense. We we gotta run
the ball period. Buffalo is thirtieth and rushing bro and
thirty first in rush per attempt.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
But like I said, they're still what is it like, twelve.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Thirteen defense in the NFL, So how is that when
they're thirty something, they're number one in past defense.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
They are also number eight in sacks per past attempt.
So we have had to effectively run the rock.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
We need to run the ball effectively, and I don't
care if they know it's coming, if.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
They can't stop it, it don't matter. Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
If we can run the ball effectively, we now control
time of possession, which means our defense isn't on the
field as much, and our defense does not need to
be on the field as much because we are going
against the number three offense in the NFL period, number

(28:35):
one in rushing and number nine in passing. The first
thing we gotta stop is the run. We have to
stop the run, like if we cannot do that, we're
gonna have trigger. And I know we can do it
because we done. We did it against the number one

(28:58):
rusher and with the coach, I know we can do it.
The defensive players need to be in position to make
the plays, meaning the play calling is important, the scheme
is important. I don't care how good you are. If

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we are schematically deficient, it's extremely.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Hard to overcome.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
And when we aren't and we are in position, the
players need to do the necessary things to achieve success.
Like in zone, reroute the receivers. If we're in man,
keep your eyes on your man. And as a defense
going against Buffalo, we're going to have to mix up

(29:53):
zone and man coverages. If we play man all night,
Josh Allen is going to run the ball on us. Okay,
he is going to run the rock. And that's if
we play man extremely well. He's going to run the
rock because our backs are going to be termed. Therefore,
there needs to be something built in that spies him.

(30:14):
In man coverages and when we're in zone, defenses guys,
we have to jam these receivers throw off their timings.
It gives our rushers more time to get them allen.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Okay, Like.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I also think you speaking of God needs to start, bro.
I think we need to start like being able to
disguise our defenses. Everybody is reading their mail. The very
few times that we do we disguise it actually consumes
his quarterbacks because we don't do it as often and
we don't do it well when we do it. And

(30:53):
I'm thinking, like that's something that it totally needs to
be in there, because I think the big issue is
that everyone's not on the same page. So if I'm
sitting here as an outside linebacker and I'm actually rushing,
but I'm stepping out here like I'm on two and
my safety is already rolled down behind me, sitting behind me,

(31:16):
the quarterback already know to be working together.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Everybody.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
We got to be on a rope together so no
one person can be off. Like we used to have
a thing where it was like it's show what that means.
This time we're showing this right here. No, we get
to a certain point, snap count whatever it is, now, Okay,
once the play looks like it's go start. We know
he can adjust once he snaps it. Now we roll

(31:40):
about it like we need to be able to do that.
We're not doing that. I don't know why we're not
doing that as much as we should. But when you're
on that rope, you had an understanding. I don't know
if it's because the players don't know what they're doing,
or it's it because it's not being told that you
know what this is something we need to do. But
if I'm sitting there and I have a quarterback like
Josh Allen and I'm just sitting there the coverage, I'm
gonna be in He's going to get me your part, Okay.

(32:04):
You like, if we're going to win this game, that
needs to be done.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
One thousand percent everything you said, Debo is correct as
far as defense man de man eyes zone bumping your dudes, rerouting.
We're saying the simple things, like you said, the routine stuff.
Do it routinely, and we're legitimately saying it because you've
done it before. It's not like we're asking you to
go out there and do something that we've never seen
you do. You know what I'm saying, actually to go

(32:31):
do simple things don't go act out of character. If
you have a man, guard your man. If you have
a rerooute assignment, revout your assignment. So that part is
when I'm with you one thousand percent. It's not a
skilled thing. It's a goddamn do your job thing. And
if you're not your job, then that's when we Obviously
I think you've been coaching to do it because that's

(32:51):
the defense like on zone.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
But also, like I said, you still have to pushatically.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Offensively so that they can do with their job and
not have them out there in something that is not
going to work. But this is saying he goes and
walks on water, I feel like, but this is what
I'm saying. The plays that we see when ship is open,
it's not walk on water. It's like, dude, reroute. You
know what I'm saying, Dude, get your eyes where they're

(33:21):
supposed to be. You know what I'm saying, Stop getting
ran out your fucking hole right here on this on
in these circle certain situations. So I think me the
every man, whooping man, all of that stuff is legitimate,
and our defense has the players to do it.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
But they have to every play like no, like it's
on you to do your assignment. Do your alignment, and
if you and then then we can go look at
the tape. If this is some bullshit that they asking
you to do and that's just schematically wrong, then we
can go and have that conversation like, no, that's wrong,
that's that's a bad play. But on the stuff that
we can see and we're looking at like this, Oh no,
you're not rerouting. Oh no, you're not looking at your man.

(33:57):
Oh no, you're not in your right gap right there.
You know what I'm saying. Those are the joints that
were like this, No, that's just you being trash. That's
just you need to be a better player. When the
coaches are like this, what kind of scheme is this?
How is he running out of? Why is t J
Watt guarding the slot receiver that ship? When we like this,
that's bad play. Call them right there.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
You know what I'm saying. Tej shouldn't have to guard
them in that situation. So I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
And when we see those players, that's coaching. When we
see players with motherfuckers not jamming, that's on them, you
know what I'm saying. So us being able to analyze
and see what's going on being able to do it?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So but again we're seeing people not a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
What are they being I know it.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Your zone, watch the quarterback and read him and then
adjust as you just no, no, no, no, nobody's not
telling you.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Just you know what it is when you have to
jam too. It's the thing where you got to be
doing two things. Read, run not run, get your eyes
on too, and now you have to reaviout them. Like
sometimes it might just be messing up having a little
brain farest. That's why you standing four y'all. No, it's
usually you're you're you're you're four by one. Why because
I'm a looking I gotta read. I'm coming down to it.

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If it's not, I'm a bump.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I'm just gonna step over, bamming and get to where
I need to get because I can't have any just
hanging off the field.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
So I think some of the stuff is like we
know football, I don't. I've never seen any cover three
where you don't have to readoute number two. Like that's
just not that because it would because how how how
James Pierre.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
But also it's things of it's things like this, So
like you said, Cover three, I'm say I'm driving curl flat,
I'm dropping curl flat, right, I ain't got no work.
If I ain't got no work, I'm gonna I'm gonna
keep I'm gonna keep going deep. I'm gonna keep dropping
so I can get under that. How many people are
doing that? How many people are having that football knowledge?
That's not something that like you're just gonna know that

(35:47):
has to be taught to you, told to you like
it's it's a coaching being told to you. It's all
that being told. Like I got nothing in my song?
Why am I sitting grass garden grass? When I could
just drop back first and made that more difficult, which
he had put more airtime into it.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Now my sex like this stuff like the play that
we seen Horn do well, it's like, yeah, oh I
don't have anybody. There's nobody in my deep zone. I
need to go find some work. Like that's next level
stuff that I feel you that we need to be
able to definitely do that. Oh you after the punch
and why nobody's in my son, I can sink a
little bit deeper and get up under this. So it's
like it's definitely next level stuff. It's just the simple

(36:24):
stuff like we're not doing so I'm I'm with you,
like we got to.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
See I would like to ask him, hey, what are
you r?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
That's the same sitting here and I'm questioning is this
coaching or is this then? Because I'm seeing it too often,
Like at some point, if I'm the coach and you're
not doing.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
It, I gotta get you about of here.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
You look bad because now you got people like the
question question And if I'm really teaching it right, and
I want to I am teaching right.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
You need to be doing it.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
But if you're not, we need to get somebody in
there that can because you got me looking crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I'm not telling you want all that is the same.
It's not being done. I need to get somebody else
in there that.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Like it.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Don't it don't it don't make any sense to it.
And right now, Cincinnati did us a huge We are
back in control. We need to do what's necessary to
win these games, and I'm hoping that we can do it,
but I'm not really that optimistic. To being one hundred
percent honest with you, Yep, Green Bay went out there

(37:32):
and uh put it on the lines thirty one expect
that either I wouldn't expect they had Jacob's back, though, Man,
they had Jacob. He made he made some situational stuff happened.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
He made some runs. Bro.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
They get the ball on that first down, he basically
kept him ahead of the change. But most of the time,
like the first down, he gets a run. I think
it was like for for it was only a hot
four yards, but that was after missing the game with
the knee. Think second down he hit Watson like on time, Bro.
As soon as hen he threw that ball for he
turned around straight into his chest.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Bro. He was doing it. He was doing the thing
right all time. Number see was getting open. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
The next two first down, I mean the next two downs,
they picked up about nine, again staying ahead of the change.
Third down, come that man Jacobs again, nice run. O
line did a good job blocking on that one. Dude,
I don't even think he got touched to. He was
about three yards three four yards deep and that was
just a swipe of a hand. And then again it

(38:41):
was another I think nine on first down. Maybe it was, Yeah,
it was another nine on the next two first downs
together combined together they got another nine and then he
had a nice pass to dobs. I think that gave
him like a third and one that converted for like four.

(39:06):
Then Love scrambled on that sack. He avoided that sack,
but the throw was short. That's what happened. That that
throw was short. He missed, dude, and then he ended
up missing. Watching the next play, they basically started themselves out.
Detroit didn't stop. Yeah, they settled for They settled for

(39:27):
a field goals three nothing. The very first play, golf trips, dude.
I'm thinking he about to just fumble the whole thing out.
He got lucky was able to get it to him.
You see how his knee actually bumped the ball into
his hands. Lucky, dude, Yeah, very lucky. The next the

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next play, Parsons pressures him, which would be something that
would happen all night, pressure and sacking him. And then
the third play he almost sacked in but he ended
up getting getting the ball out.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
That right there, like the flick of the wrists. That's
the only thing.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, yeah, I d line brush man.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
That's the worst thing, dude. That's the worst thing, dude.
Green Bay get back out there and Detroit actually stands up.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
They hold him to a three and out. I was
like okay, I'm like, okay, Detroit, come back out there.
Gibbs went on head and I think he had a
nice little seven yard run, but they lost Saint Brown
on that same play.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
And that was that hurt.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Was his foot right, like rolled up on his ankle. Yeah,
he rolled up the receivers trying to block. They coming
up on you fast. That happens so much, man, Yeah, yeah,
I mean that's that's that's part of it. That's part
of the dirty part of the receiver. You know, you're
out there block rolled up on man.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
God, I know that sometimes the dbs we like there
and not back. They put them into the pile. You
know what I'm saying, Like yep, hit me or him. Hey,
I'm gonna being you over the DA better you and me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
I think Gibbs got another seven on second down, and
then the first down they ended up getting the illegal formation.
They stopped Montgomery for no game and then Golf he
just threw it into the ground and he come Parsons again.
Third down he sacks and they gotta punt the ball.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Green Bay gets it back.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I think first down they pressured Love into like a incompletion,
but dude, here comes Jacobs again. Dude, a little check down.
I think it goes for like eight third and two.
Man peels off what twenty nine thirty or something that
they end up converting another first down, you know, with

(42:05):
the help of off side from Detroit. That was an
incompletion on that third down that gets them to I
believe was fourth and two. Now we had this fourth
and two that he hits Wicks for a twenty two
yard touchdown. They called that a touchdown. They reviewed and
called it a touchdown. I think the ball moved when

(42:27):
he went past him. He hit it and it went
to his other hand. They said he had control of
that and it just moved to his other hand. I
personally think that was not a touchdown. What about you,
I'm with you, Debo, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
I mean on offense, if that was a defensive player
trying to catch that, I think they would have called
that an incomplete pass, just be like, oh, yeah, the
ball was moving. Obviously they're trying to get touchdowns, but
I think for sure it that's not secured. All of
these shows, these plays where they've been slowing it down.
If it's any type of movie like switching their hands.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I think that that wasn't a switch dude. That was
like when he came across, it was a bump dude,
and it just kind of just looked like like it
went to the other hand.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, like that's not control. You say, no, he's not
gonna hold that doing the switch, So that's incomplete. That's
that's what That's what they should have said.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
That's what I think. I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
They end up going up with is it ten to
nothing now?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
And Detroit actually comes back out and I think golf
he actually starts throwing a live He.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Hits Williams for like was it twenty two?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, something like that, and then I think Gibbs goes
almost twenty on the second down. I believe it was
like a third and long golf hit and Kennedy for
like twenty three, and then it's another illegal formation like
how you how you keep how you keep doing?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Detroit? Man, they will coach, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I think they had some new players in there and
all the other stuff, but I'm like, yo, same thing though,
I don't care about that, Like, you got to know
what you're supposed to right Listen, listening to the meeting, like,
I don't know. Well, they get down there. I think
they put Montgomery in there. He ends up getting like
eight on the first I think he got maybe three

(44:25):
on the second down, and then the wildcat. The wildcat
is like.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Third and.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, yeah he goes. He goes for the three yard touchdown.
It's back into a game. It's seven to ten in
Green Bay. They come back out there and again brouh, Like, hey,
second down, they got lucky. They that God living right bright? Yeah,

(44:54):
I had to be yeah, yeah, third down love his love.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Was Christian with the toe taps on the sidelines.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, yeah, he hit Wigs I think for eighteen and
then on the second I think it was mus Grave
for twenty something, and then.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
It was Yeah, they got caught on the.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Third down with twelve men on the field on that
third and seven.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
But they get to the fourth one and one again bruh,
they false started.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Ooh, I didn't see that, and they peat that one.
They falls start around. Listen, they fall started.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Dude was running down there to call the time out.
Oh but he only running down there to call the
time out because he was gonna call it at zero.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
You false started at two, and then you gott camera
and see.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Him running down there, and when.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
He sees he's seeing them move, and then you see him.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Do the time out call you, oh, now go talk.
He could have been hollering it. No you're not, because
the first thing you're doing as you're running down is
if you're.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Calling and hollering, you're already doing this to try and
get a test.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
He calls the time out at two seconds because you're
waiting at zero to be like I was calling him out.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
No, he saw him move, Yes, Debo, when he saw
him move going this play. When this happened and I
saw him, I said, oh my god, I watched it.
I said he lied. Ye, he lied, And you have
the timing right there in real time you see it.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
But he jumped back.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
So unless the ref is gonna say I heard him
hollering time out, yeah, that was Jankie.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
That was Ja, that's Jankie. They ended up scoring on
that dude. They go up seventeen. My boys with the
switch route. They kept running them.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
They That's the one thing too about the play calling
Deebo that I was saying, when they know it's man
the man, them dudes running up there and being able
to do that stack to where the dbs don't really
know like inside outside, they get your level, y'all messed up.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
So they was running there. They were doing a great
job of running those choice routes.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
So he gets up, gets up behind him, runs a
little option running out route, the outside receiver run the end.
So they were a good job of rubbing those dudes together.
That place should never happen on four to six, Bro,
They wouldn't even win for that.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Like you caught, man, you all the way caught, Like
Detroit actually gets the ball. They come back out there,
they're able to, you know, make some movement. I think
it was second and long. Green Bay got that that
neutral song, which you know, helped them convert the third down.
And then on that first down, Golf hits Williams again

(47:41):
for like twenty five. It was third and three. He
took that short pass he hit me with. Listen, that's
another thing right here again. Wrap up, bro, you coming
in here to bump and slide?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
What is you doing?

Speaker 3 (47:56):
He just came like I just just trying to throw
the shoulder debo. I think it's gonna take him down. Dude,
he's three y'alls in the backfield, go put your face
on that man and wrap him up.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
And Williams it's small to dude, was go where he
went and just wrap your hands on his legs and
wrap him up.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
He spun up out of that joint, took it to
the apartments. What do you do, dude? Instead of that?
He yeah, he bounced up off that thing.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
He goes twenty four crib to the crib. It's seventeen
to fourteen. Now, like if you had made that plate, like,
I don't know what would happen. You really don't matter.
Green Bay ends up kneeling out. They're going to halftime,
they're up seventeen fourteen. That'd be the last points that

(48:42):
you know the Boys would score. But Detroit get back
out there. I think they ended up converting one first down.
They get to the fourth down in three and they
turn it over on downs. Hey, Dan, at some point, bruh,
you're gonna have to realize when you start getting towards
that November December football, every fourth down, eight third down.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
And we just go go for it.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
They don't go they don't make it. That's three points
that could.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Have been on there.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Now we could have been sitting seventeen seventeen right now,
that's an easy field goal for the kicker, bro Easy, yeah, easy.
Instead of that, green Bay gets the rock back in
completion on first down.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And then he hits won for.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Fifty one for the tuddy if you kicked the field goal,
br that's not even if they go fifty one, it's
not a touchdown. Like, it's a whole different swing you're
talking about, like from a you know, like it's twenty
one fourteen. That's a huge point swing you get from
going from nothing to getting them. They get seven points,

(49:49):
it's like ten point point one point swing.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Dupe.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Now you're down twenty one to fourteen, Like bruh, they
end up answering. I think they scored like ten more
points after the fourteen. I think golf, Yeah, that's when
golf went on head and.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Used this on twenty two.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
It was like twenty yeah, like like twenty something. Man,
he went ahead and did the thing like twenty four.
Then the second down, Montgomery he went for thirteen. First down,
he went for another smack over. Oh my gosh, listen, listen,
Montgomery train out there, and there's only way I trained
at Bro.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
He both that. I love it.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Listen, where did lift almost seven hundred pounds on track ball?
Like he bought that work. He that's what he's living for,
to be able to put that foot and ground and
go smack over some Yeah, I think golf finished. It
were like a seventeen yard or two?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
What was is it? Tesla?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Tesla? That's it to the Testla.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Twenty one, twink and folk.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
We're back into it, trying to get back into it.
They're trying to get back into it. Brother, second down
was in Melton, look fourteen and the first down it
was wis for thirty thirty because no, reroute, he's running
your scene, thank you's running.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
But they get down de bo we both. This is
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
That's why I love watching football, because some of the
stuff is not that hard. Some of this just like this,
they're like somebody else, No, it's so horrible.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
He's running this person. It's routes. It's routes on air.
What do you expect? Yes, so yeah, good past, but
not good defense.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
And then Jacobs gets six on the on the on
the next play, I think the second down they converted
for the first and then the next second down they.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Fumbled recovery, but they get yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
But they get it. And then third down it's an incompletion.
They got it good, but you get a face mask
that helps them get a first down like Detroit. Can't
be you can't be, can't be hitting yourself in the
face and you're having a hard time stopping themself and
the foot and then second down love his with another

(52:22):
one of them motions. Man, the man switch routes quick,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
That's what you go get when you manned up like that,
you go get that all day. They got they got.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
They gotta learn, yeah, man, you gotta learn play a
little zone there or be able to run the in
and out and make sure he gets the outside man.
But they ran those routes very, very quick. And the
thing about Detroit, they weren't backing up. They weren't like
they were in the end zone feet planet as soon
as he catches it if it's one yard he needs
like they were tacking as soon as he got But
I'm like, dude on the rent on the goal line,
they only need one yard, so that don't matter.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Like you got to make a play.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Forward, you got, you got, you gotta go ahead, take
a chance of putting you right now. Beat him up
in them first five yards. You gotta beat him up.
You only got a yard to work with.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
They go down. Was it thirty one to twenty one Detroit?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
They get out there, I think Golf hits Williams again
for like fifteen. The next play they try out pitch
track flicker whatever that was. Bruh, Golf, I don't, I
ain't do He dropped?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
How you? How you?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
How you dropped the football? Almost lost it, almost lost it,
lost it like yeah, like got lucky and covered it.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, you gotta do better there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
And then the second down Gid said I'm gonna go
ahead and say y'all. He went for fourteen. The third
down he went for another twelve. I think they converted
one more first down after that, and then they get
to fourth and three.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Good back. They go for it again.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Golf shakes loose, gets out, he throws it to Wills behind.
You got but he's still could he's still he's still
coulda got it, no question, he's still.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
He drops it.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
It's turnover on downs again. Another situation where I'm like, yo,
just take the point. That's that's that you got six
more now from where you're at now, like it's a
totally different game at twenty seven thirty one, Like take
the points.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
You can't keep doing it. And he had that happen, dude,
like in the previous you know, seasons where they were
in the playoffs and he was just going forward on
fourth like, yo, take the.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Points, bro.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
I understand you do it at a certain time, but
at some point you gotta be likeah, like it's it's
a lot on the line. I can't come back from
this next week.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
This gonna be it.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
And if you keep losing them like that, it's you
ain't gonna get to the to the to the to
the playoffs. Like you can't as at some point, I think,
I think he has to realize that Okay, early in
the season when I could come back from this, but
now I'm leaving points out there that I could have
in big games, yes, and big games, dude.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Like it's not like you're you know, you're you're up, and.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
You're like, okay, I'm up. By even if I'm up,
I'm not doing.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
That, bro, I gotta gotta get some points points to
come from in this league. Man, and then you you
already leaving something out there.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
So especially when my defense ain't stopping him, like they're
not stopping him.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
He's all night. They you seen that, they weren't doing that,
So turn them on down for them. Packers get the
ball back.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Packers get the ball back. Detroit ends up I think
for three and out with the help of a miss P.
I like, dude had that arm. I don't even know
how to miss that, like you calling catches and then
you miss that like listen, And they got all these
cameras around everywhere. What happened to where I could review

(56:06):
a not call of a PI? Did they take that
away or something? Because I ain't seen nobody do it.
That's like you can see it right there. It's automatic.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I don't know. Maybe they took that away. I who knows.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I don't know. I'm not I'm not exactly how they're Yeah,
how they changed that around. Detroit gets out there and
golf hits what was the dude's number? Dude's name eighteen?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
What was the name?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I think he he went like for eighteen. He hit
him for eighteen, and then he gets sacked by Parsons. Again, okay,
and third down he sacked in again legal contact, they
got an illegal touch, Yeah, lucky duck. So they ended

(56:55):
up getting the first down and then second down and
then Williams takes it forty four, forty four, they convert.
I think it was maybe one more first down after that,
and then they get to another thirty and it come

(57:16):
Parses again.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Parsons was balling bro pars out of control. String as
both teams winning in the trade.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
And now.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
You want to take the field goal now. You want
to take the field goal. You want to take the
field goal now after you have seen your defense can't
stop them. Okay, they haven't stopped them, but you want
to take the field goal now and hope that with
three minutes left, your defense is going to stop them
and you score the field goal. It's thirty one to

(57:53):
twenty four. Green Bay gets the ball and runs out
for the last three minutes of the game because they
converted on fourth down, two wicks for eighteen. I'm I'm
at a loss.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
On that one. Like Detroit got some issues. Don't get
me wrong, green Bay, they just do.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
They just made the plays when they counted, dude, They
ahead of the chains for most of the game. They
rushed the ball well enough. I think Jacobs was seventeen
for eighty three, Milton only was like two for fifteen,
and Love was eighteen for two thirty five two thirty four,

(58:44):
but it was four touchdowns and big plays, that big yardage,
big chunks. Wicks was six for ninety four with two touchdowns.
Washington was on four for eighty but he had the
huge fifty one yard touchdown. Bruh, Like Detroit, like they

(59:09):
they got to God to God to got to realize
starting late November like that, that that's playoff football, dude,
Like every every fourth down, you don't go for it.
You gotta do it situationally and kick some field goals.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Man. I mean, golf didn't play bad.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
He started off zero for what three, but he ended
up twenty or twenty six for two what two fifty
six like one hundred and thirty two passion ratings.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
And like when you look at it, they didn't even
do bad as a total for rushing, Like they had
thirty rushers for about one hundred and nineteen yards. Green
Bay only had thirty rushers fo one hundred and twenty
five yards. But the situational things. They were able to
get more big plays and their defense got off the

(01:00:00):
field where the truit didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yeah, and they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
They converted on the fourth downs. Although both those fourth
downs I think shouldn't have been No, shouldn't. They definitely
shouldn't have been made. The second one for sure. Okay,
if he on the first one, maybe he had it,
Maybe he didn't, you can say, okay, well he had
controlling No, he knocked it to his other hand. He
didn't swap that overdue. He knocked it to then, although

(01:00:27):
it may have looked like to you, oh he was
swapping it. No. No, But the second one, the false start,
That was a false start, bro. Yes, you can see
it on the timing. Like at some point, y'all doing
all this replay, this virtual of this, all this other stuff,
like let's let's use.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
This to to correct it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You all, you want to do all the slow mode
when the defensive player hit somebody, y'all want to slow
it down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Fifty billion.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
In the chin strap a little bit right, Yeah, his
helmet did touch his chin strap, you see, like it covers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
The white there. Y'all seen that man lose control to
the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Bruh, you know they like points. Tell me they like points,
de bo dude, Yeah, it's wild they got they gotta
fix some stuff over there, bruh. But the Cowboys they
ended up beating the Chiefs thirty one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Tow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I ain't even really go through this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
This is what it feel about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
This is what it comes down to me for me,
is that the chief defense sells even though they are
a good defense, bro, they sell situationally.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
They sell.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Big play wise, like they're are eighth rank defense, but
they're twenty third per play, Like every play that you
get against them, they're twenty third per play, so they're
eighteenth player rush, they're twenty fifth per pass, which means
if you have them out there enough time, you're going

(01:02:09):
to be able to win on them. Situationally, their third
down percentage, I think they're tied for twenty eight, which
mean to me that's twenty nine. So the offense is
not putting up hell of points anymore. They're not able
to get large sums of controlling the time of possession,
which means their defense is now out there. And you

(01:02:32):
add in you know, penalties and all that, and again
got to the end of the game. The defense couldn't
stop them. Situationally, they can't make the plays and when
it counts, and it's not that old high flye go
get forty points. Can't see the offense anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I went, you, Dbo. I mean, I love the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
I think that defense has to play probably a little
bit better. And at the same time, their offense is
still not that high flying Chiefs offense to where you
know every time they're gonna be scoring up in the thirties.
I think this one too, was a little bit more
for me. Debo Dallas like, oh yeah, don't get me wrong,
Dak Prescott. Not just trying to like, but like I'm

(01:03:16):
looking at quarterbacks now, I would wish, you know what
I'm saying, when just looking for as a Steelers fan,
as the Browns fan, having a quarterback that's really just
going back there throwing for three hundred you know what
I'm saying. He had to pick early because he got
hit when he threw it, but just being able to
throw for three hundred yards like it's nothing, you know
what I'm saying. Standing up in the pocket, realizing you
do have George Pickens, you do have CD Lamb, you know,

(01:03:37):
what I'm saying, And then x's and o's versus Jimmy's
and the Joe's. My jimmies and Joe's are better than
your jimmies and Joe's. He's gonna play man the man.
I'm gonna throw it to George Pickens on Watson. Watson
wanted no part of him. I love Watson, but then
you got two men inside leverage and he gets across
your face for the slant, and not only across your face,

(01:03:58):
then you flagging him, holding him in all that. So
I'm like, just for me, their defense is solid, but
it was more Dallas offensive side of the ball and
then on defense side of the ball just being able
to try to stop the run, just being able to Like,
they still score twenty eight points, but they have some
players Hollywood Brown Rice, you know, Patrick mahoone is still
creating and still doing what he does. I was really

(01:04:20):
excited to watch Dallas though, because I'm like, they actually
look like a good team, you know what I'm saying.
The defense wasn't just out there giving up everything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
They was moving. They're the defense is a little bit,
but then you know you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Got on the offensive side, you got that man that's
gonna be. You got George Pickinson CD at the end
of the day, they looking sweet. Running game was still
you're still using it. But then you got that just
back there looking like he's running stuff. So I was like,
I like the way Dallas looked. I like the way
Dak looked. I like the way that he goes to
those receivers and shout out the CD for stepping up
not dropping dropping passes. If they have those one on

(01:04:54):
one matchups with them versus these receivers, it's just gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
It's gonna be a tough day. So I like what
the Cowboys work for a show for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Joe, you know what, Yes, it's time to play. Play
or fade, presented by Power, presented by Prize Pick. Okay,

(01:05:27):
look here it's Prize Pick. I got my braces. Okay,
all right, Joe. Here's how it works. I made a
lineup of picks for tonight's Black Friday game. Okay, you
either play my lineup or you faded, and you tell
me why. Okay, So this is what I'm going with. Caleb,

(01:05:50):
he goes through a pick and Jayalen go throw a pick.
This is why I say, Caleb go throw a pick.
It's because he is inconsistent and Philly is not go
not catch something like the other team that played them
last week did. I'm not gonna say their name, Okay, okay,
all right. And Jalen, they're gonna have him throwing the ball,

(01:06:12):
and I believe Philly will win, but they're gonna have
to run the ball. So that's why I have him
for less on the two hundred and eleven passing and
I have say Kwan for more on the seventy seven
rushing because I believe they're gonna win and he's gonna

(01:06:33):
have to pass. But at some point, who is number
one in interception racial?

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Is it Caleb?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
No, I'm talking about per play ass attempt?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay. So that's why I
have both of them throwing four okay, and I have
Hurt on the total.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I have him less and I have say Kwan more.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
What do you think I think from last week when
I'm out here playing, I think Caleb probably gonna throw
a pick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
I think Jalen hurts. Why do you think Caleb will
throw a pick because he's gonna have to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I think he's gonna throw the ball a lot because
he's gonna just try to trying to get some points,
trying to figure out a way to win. I think
he's gonna get throw a pick. I think my man,
what's my man name, Mitchell the corner for the Eagles. Yes,
young boy, Mitchell cole Black. I'm actually gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Tell you who's gonna get the pick the okay, okay,
Hurts Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
He might be trying to force feed to Jalen Brown
because AJ Brown, because you know, he's been trying to
get the rock a lot, so he might force feed him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Might get tipped in the air, probably might throw a pick.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Okay, two picks that I'm with you, We all together,
Jalen Hurts under too eleven. Yeah, right around right around
two hundred is what I was looking at. You know
what I'm saying, because I like DeVante Smith. He's gonna
still He's gonna probably get off. He's gonna get a
J Brown, a couple of passes, nothing crazy. He don't
really throw for over two hundred eleven anyway. So right
around one ninety, good, say Kwan. He has not been

(01:08:15):
performing the way he knows he can perform. He's gonna
want to go get a Hunda. He wants a Hundo
for show. So I'm playing this, I'm playing, I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Okay, okay, look here, man, make sure you download that
app today and use the code d Boat Joe to
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Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Now, don't don't you all forget?

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Tell your mama and your mama and your daddy, your uncle,
everybody and your mama, Papa.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Here, everybody, tell everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
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download d BO and Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Is the cold, you know, unless come on go love it,
d Boat. That was a good picky. Look here, man,
this is what we go do. Joe, go be here
on Sunday to go and play.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
And watch the Stellers play and be it and beat
the Buffalo Bills. Buddy, Okay, that's what That's what we're
gonna do. That's what Joe said.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I am saying.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I don't know if that's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
All right. Look, I gotta I gotta, we gotta, we
gotta super chat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
We got a super chat five dollars super Chat donated
by Ninja Grows, and they want to know this. You
can only pick one uh, Troy Polamalu, Ray Lewis, t J.
Watt or Antonio Brown, Troy polam y'all asked the stupid

(01:10:00):
part of a little not a question. Hey, stop playing
that's baby Jesus, Hey bro, that man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Ask a stupid question. Yeah, all day, all day, man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
We want to thank y'all for joining us on this
episode of Debo and Joe. Hey tomorrow giving away two
of two to the winners. Be ready, be on the lookouts,
hey man. Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Make sure y'all check on the lookout to see you
gonna win these tickets to come rock with me and
Debo at the game because it's going to be a blast.
All right, Thank you guys for showing up. Make sure
you like to subscribe. We will see you on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
And we out how you doing today, Joe, Let me
tell yourself to devote. Devote is my time, real quay

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
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