October 14, 2025 • 60 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a Monday Night Football where Michael Penix Jr. and the Atlanta Falcons took down Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, and Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears defeated Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders. Later, they recap the biggest storylines from Week 6 of the 2025 NFL Season!
Timeline:
00:00 - Bears beat Commanders
15:00 - Falcons Beat Bills
35:40 - Mike Tomlin calls out Browns
40:00 - Rodgers calls out Steelers field conditions
43:25 - Cleveland Browns moving stadiums?
46:50 - Brian Branch suspended
53:30 - Eagles' Za'Darius Smith retires
59:00 - Defensive Player of the Week
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Debo and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like
and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you
doing today, y'all? I'm doing solid, brother Debo.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Another good day to be on this thing, talking that
good football.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How we do no question, baby, Let's just go ahead
and jump straight into it. So the Bears went on
ahead and beat the Commanders by one point twenty five
to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Dude, Chicago, I was, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I was a little I was a little impressed, a
little not impressed, but you know, here and there. But
Chicago came out on the first drive, dude, and they
went and said, you know what, we went and picked
up Moody for a reason. We go put him to use,
and they put him out there, brod let him get
a try at a forty seven yard field goal. After
he done got let go for missing field goal?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Was and all that and what he do, Joe, he
cashed in fast then brother cash Dowshtan good money, good money.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So Washington come back out there. I'm thinking they gonna answer.
They start moving the ball. Bro. They going down the field,
they get to like the twenty twenty one yard line,
and your boy, Jayden Dannalds, what happened? I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
This is this is what you don't need, and this
is how you lose games at home. He threw a
peck in the red song red zone, the worst place
that you want to you want to throw it, dude.
It makes absolutely like that that kills you, that hurts
you do.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Chicago comes back out and they you know, they're about
to capitalize with another what was it, forty forty eight
yard field goal? Moody dropped down on it again. Go ahead,
give it to him. They got three points off the turnover. Bro,
that was up six nothing, Bro, six nothing. I'm like,
still early. You know, maybe maybe Washington they go they
(02:02):
go get their stuff together, you know, dude. Next persession,
dude fumbles the rock and Chicago recovers it. I'm like, Okay,
maybe they not gonna get it together. No, maybe it's
a bad day, dude. Chicago comes in thirty five yards
dude of the uh uh thirty five yards on the
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first what was it their first touchdown?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It was only thirty five yards.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
They had to go thirteen to seven, I mean thirteen
to zero at that point. Now they didn't. They didn't
turn the ball over twice and then gave up a
total of ten yards on the turnovers. Like that right
there is not winning football, dude. No, that's how you're
gonna lose games at home, dude, no question. And then
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Washington comes out and actually I think Chicago ended up
helping them. I think they got a penalty on the
third down that was an incompletion and it was a
face mask that helped him. And they went on ahead,
scored a touchdown, and I was close again. It's thirteen
to seven, man, we got an action going yep, we
(03:12):
got a game. Oh yeah. And then Chicago they do
some goofy stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They go forward, they went for it on fourth down.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
But you passed the ball, dude, Wow, why would you?
Why would you pass the rock? Bron didn't They didn't.
They have somebody that was doing pretty well running that
ball right then and there.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I think he on that same drive he had
a ten and a twenty I think on on that
same drive just too. Why wouldn't I just give him
the rock and go ahead? Let him dust up this
one real quick. That that didn't make no sense to me.
Right there. Washington the ball back and they got kind lucky,
(03:57):
unlucky that they only Washington only scored a field goal.
Oh man, Oh, they missed that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
They missed that one.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
That's the one they missed when he hit the upright,
that's the one that he did.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That was loud as hell. It hit that uprights. Yeah,
it left up right.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, halftime seventeen seventeen thirteen. It could have been worse, though,
has thirteen seven, Yeah, thirteen seven. I'm sorry Daniels coming
back out, he gets an intentional brownding that kind of
backs him up.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
But they ended up settling for a field goal.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So it's ten thirteen hours by that time Chicago gets
back out there and it's the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I think they only went like six plays and they
ended up scoring a touchdown. That's what it was. They
scored a touchdown, but they got a penalty of it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, yes, that's what it was. Right then they ended
up getting the field goal on that to the field.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Goal settling, that was at least you at least you
got something right, Yeah, no, for sure, but sure you
got to get something, Washington. They come out, they kind
of returned to favor, you know what I'm saying. They
go forward on fourth down, they get they get thirteen yards,
and then they actually get up because McDaniels throws what
(05:23):
was it McCaffrey McAffrey seventeen sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yes, yes, yes, So that's when Jaydon Dames they started
looking better.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
They took the lead. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Don't know if I would have Well, the weather was bad,
so maybe I would have did the same thing man.
And they started Then the Bears get the ball back. Yeah,
just when it's look started looking a little shaky though.
De boat on that third and it was looking good, good, good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
And then that third and one he marveled the snap
and when they were looking like they could have easily
got that first down, he marbles so they lost yards.
Went for the field and they blocked the joint.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Dude, there's been so many block field goals and extra
points and stuff. Dude, like, what are they I don't
know what's going on. Are you allowed to jump over?
Did they change the rules on that age?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
You can jump, you can jump over, but you can't
leverage yourself. You know, you can't push off nobody.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I think these dudes nobody, Yeah, these dudes tall the
tall bro. Yeah, Washington come out. They go six players though,
thirty sixty three yards Tuddy twenty four to sixteen. Thinking
the gates about the burst open, Bro, Like maybe Washington
and got themselves together, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
And that is not the case.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Three plays Chicago sixty one yards touchdown. Who did that?
Right there?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
My man swift brother, he was balling, like catching the
ball out of the backfield, you know, a little short pass.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He took fifty took it to the crib.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They went for two. But they missed that too. Dude, yep,
I mean they down.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They're down, so right now bears down to.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Ye trading punts. I think through that and I believe
Washington ended up. This is when the un in the
rock over. They fumbled the ball on the exchange. Jaydon
Daniels slippery ball, was trying to hand it off.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
He kind of just threw it to him a little bit,
and but he missed it and they didn't even.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Throw it to him. He never got a hold of
the ball through. But that's what the whole time, and
just he just I don't know what he was.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He couldn't.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He went out of a panic and just grab it.
That's what I'm saying. You could just he was trying
to grab it and hand it off at the same time,
and it didn't even touch my man. It was nowhere
near his bread basket. But he needed to get the
rock so that joint bears bears fell on that.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So that that's costly.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Oh, no question, Scotti get the ball. I think it
was like almost six minutes left.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
End up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Knowing that they're going to run the rock. They hand
the rock to I think Swift like five times. You
get almost thirty five yards. Dude, knowing that it's a
runner situation, and you let these boys basically run the
clock out until they decided to kick a thirty eight
yard game with her with my dude Moody who came
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through and showed him why he still should.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Be in the league one thousand percent. Yeah, it's uh bruh, Washington, Yo.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
They they can't. They can't do what they did there.
The turnovers the biggest thing. The turnovers killed him, Like
like you gotta you gotta be able to at least
have a little bit more ball security than that like
the penalties y'all. Y'all they had too many, you know,
self inflicted wounds, you know, hurting themselves. You know. It
(09:04):
wasn't anything that you know, was done to him.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I feel like him not having.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
What's the receiver he did not mc man stamp uh
McLaren scary, scary, scary terry.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah he yeah, yeah. I think I think that that
hurt him.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Not being able to have that that deep threat, to
be able to stretch the field.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I think that hurt him right there.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And the offense themselves just they need to get more
of a consistent run game, dude, you know. But Chicago,
they went on out there. Bro jumped on their neck.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
They do that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Had they started off real fast, thirteen up swift, bruh
ot to control. He was bawling Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Fourteen for one to eight and he had sixty seven
rushing Tuddy.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And the biggest thing for me too, was at the
end of the game when they knew he had to
run the rock, and he ran the rock from six
minutes all the way down so they could kick the
field goal when the clock ran out. Like that part
of the game, being able to know you have to
run the ball we're trying to melt this clock. We
need to get down and this field goal could win
the game. And then knowing he was gonna run and
(10:27):
him still running it was my thing was like, that's
that's going to help out Caleb Williams so much. Taking
off pressure, not feel like you got.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
To do everything.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know, they know you're gonna run, and you still
was able to hand it off to him, run it
down there, be able to get him in field goal range,
got to the seventeen yard line.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If we can't make that, then we didn't deserve to win.
So I was happy for Swift.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
To be able to go out there and then being
able to not put.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All the pressure on Caleb.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, he didn't, just didn't turn the ball over, which
was big. Soon the defense they came up big three
turnovers to capitalize on that, getting thirteen points off those turnovers,
you know, and and mooie, man, if you don't get
if you don't get player player, Special Teams Player.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Of the Week, I don't know. I don't know who
deserve it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like I said, Caleable, he was you know, he was efficient,
you know, two hundred and fifty yards or so hm
seventeen to twenty nine no turnovers. That's you know, that's
a big thing. That's that's a real big but they
still need to improve. They had nine penalties, and you know,
the defense.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Need to be able to go out there and like,
you know, choke, choke their ass out, put your.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Foot on their neck, you know, when it's time, and
you know, keep the pressure on them. I mean literally
and figuratively, like you know, more consistent pressure and just
when you have the opportunity and you're up there, you
got to you got to put them out their misery.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Dude, No, for sure, And I think some reds one efficiency.
You know, like you said, you kept being out there,
they kept getting those field goals. We need to turn
some of them into touchdowns like it's all good, Like
no no self inflicted wounds with penalties and then just
being able to converting them in those end zone situations,
like being able to get some touchdowns out of that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, for sure. The next one we had what was
it falcons? Listen, dude, this is the crazy thing. So
I'm sitting here bro, and I'm watching these games right, Yes,
so I'm watching both games, and I don't know why
y'all keep doing this. Bro, like a seven and an
eight game and I'm watching both games. I ain't even
(12:26):
lie to you, Bro. At one point, I thought, Bro,
at one point, I thought that I thought. I thought
the Bears was playing the Falcons and Buffalo was playing
the Commanders, man the.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
White Jerseys and the other man. I'm dude, I was,
I was, I was.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I was up there getting confused, man like, like, wasn't
it no, no, no, no, they ain't playing them, especially
like when it's on at the same time and you
doing this, You're like, brother, trying You're trying to get
to split you know, yes, yes, you're trying to get
a lot going on. It's a lot of football going on,
and you want to be engaged too, So I could
(13:06):
I feel you.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
It's it's a lot of moving parts, man, like trying
to watch two games at what time? That shit was
crazy yesterday? And why did they start at sevent ten
and eight? Like, nigga, can they're on at the same
exact time. It's like first quarter in one and like
going about to be halftime in the other one.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Dude, It just it Actually, so I write things down,
and I caught myself writing something down on the Buffalo
side that on the one game that should have been
on the other game, and I did it for like
half a page. I'm like, oh my god, Like, oh
my god, what am I like, I'm his debo?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What am I doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Look, we got it, we got it. We gotta fight
this out for sure. Man, Like, come on, give us like, dude,
do like a do like if you go do that,
like do do a six and a nine or something.
You know what I'm saying, Yes, Like, I mean it's you, damn.
I mean y'all being a little greedy right now. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They get into the bag, debo, They're not worried about
what the hell were talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
They get into the bag, no question. Falcers went out
there and beat up literally, dude, beat up on the
bills bron unexpected. Oh yes, for on my side, I'm
gonna just say how I feel.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I did not expect this in any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Atlanta came out the first play, dude, and they fumbled
the rock and got lucky. Buffalo recovered it. But the
defense was off side, dude. It could have started so
much differently.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
My man came out kicked it.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He stripped that ball good boom, and they recovered it cleanly,
and it was like lined up in the neutral zone.
Oh my god, that that that that that that ubsessed
me so bad with something like that happened, especially when
you have that, You know, a game turned around, play
like that and all of a sudden, something that don't
even really matter, has nothing to do with else was
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in the neutral zone.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
There has nothing to do with nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We lose, We lose this ball and the running back
takes off twenty one yards run through the DB's chest, head,
neck and everything else.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Oh my goutness. He looked, he looked for him, He
looked for him. He was he was.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
About to try and like like like Dodgy, and he
was like.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
No, I ain't gonna be a m If I try
and dodge him, he might tackle him. He might tackle him. No,
I want right into him. Boom. I said, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Hey, that's football, man, that's type of football.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I like, I ain't even lie.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I knew you love that because I was like, I
wrote it down. I said, why did he just change
his He could have scored easily with like No, he couldn't, man,
he would have took a chance of trying to get
away and got dragged down tackle and not made the
goal line. So the best way to go is not
trying avoid him, just go straight. He would have had
to take another three four yards like this instead of
just look it's a run throwing. You already got a
(16:05):
full head of steam.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He coming like sideways anyway, right throwing he did do.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's football versus you. I'm here for that. I'm here
for all of that too. That was I was like,
oh yeah, he set the tone.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
The tone.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Then Josh Allen come back out there. First play forty
five boom woa, and he scrambling another play though in
nineteen nineteen yard touchdown to Allen.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We tied seven to seven. I look like a barn burner.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yuh. I'm like, it's this going to be one of
those games where we get we get forty to forty three.
I'm like, I hate, I hate I know you hate those.
I hate those games. So possession later, Atlanta. They get
a stop on third and three, but it's a defensive
penalty which gives him a first down up they end
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up scoring. Now it's seven or fourteen. They got a
nice little league going.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Now it ain't nice.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It's one touchdown, but it's better than what I thought
they was gonna be able to do.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
No, No, for sure, it's man two drives, two tuddies.
I'm Atlanta, I'm geeked. I'm you know what I'm saying.
I'm feeling we're doing We're doing something right. Oh yeah,
for sure. Atlanta came back out there when Buffalo went out,
they went on here and sacked Josh Allen that next
possession on second and third and third come on and
third down, and they ended up having the punt like defense.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
They did what they had to do right there, that's
no question about it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But Atlanta came back out and I'm like, oh man,
they get sacked on the first play, but what happened.
It's a penalty again off side on Buffalo, and then
that boy bus on the next play takes off on
him for eighty one. How did you not get him tackled?
(18:00):
Sideline like the bike scratch, something like loll pull, like
when you try to push, even if you push him,
like he's tiptoeing up the sideline out of your arms.
I don't know how he didn't go down, dude, I
don't know how he didn't go down or go out
of bounce. I know how he didn't go down. He
ain't get enough of me. And then beyond nice style, yes,
(18:25):
beyond nice stout.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah see and he can he could run it and
catch it too.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
M h uh huh.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Definitely Atlanta's next possession, they go forward on I believe
it's fourth down, and they passed the rock. Why are
you passing the rock? And you have Jean sitting right
there and you're going against the thirty years rank run
(18:53):
defense in the NFL, and whe're going to go and
pass the rock for what?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't know what, I don't know. You know, that's
just bad. That's not a bad that's a bad play
called debo.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I don't I think. I think these these these coaches
and they started trying to outthink and out smart smart
the coordinator. Dude, you know what I'm saying, like like
I don't know, I don't know, Like, dude, this is
what you're doing. They know what you like, make them like,
make them stop it. They can stop you. Then we
get a little bit of drama. First play, Josh Allen
(19:32):
does something that's not like Joss Allen. He throws a
pick those steps in front of him. Ruh, and here
comes Atlanta. He got greedy, he got gritty and thought
he could make it, got gritty and.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Thought he could make it so wide open, and just
happened to get that second foot step out of bounds
before he was able to lunch across. Dude, that would
have crushed him. That would have been twenty eighth to seventh.
I'm not mad at him, though, I'm not mad.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
I'm not either.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He was listen, I'm the same thing you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I know, you trying to get there. He was trying
to get it.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Wasn't nothing there.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
If he was a little faster, he would he would
have stroked off on him. I know, I know, I know,
I know. He just gotta yeah, he gotta get.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
A little bit more lunch. But I ain't gonna lie.
I wasn't mad at the effort.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And if that would if he would have scored that tuddy,
it would have been ugly.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Ugly old have been super ugly.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
In the end of the half, bro it would have
already twenty eight to seven, twenty eight to seven. Not
to mention your boy, bj he got twelve for one
thirty eight a touchdown and fourteen receiver like what uh
spink Spinks? How you say his name? The quarterback for
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how you say his name?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Bro Pinks?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Pinks Yeah, Pennix Penix, Michael Pennick Jr.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Michael Pennick Jr. He was of nineteen seventy one in
the tuddy. He was dropping and he was you know what,
he was throwing that thing.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
This is what I would have done. What I don't
understand what quarterbacks is. If you have a receiver that's
better than the corner that's guarding him, I'm gonna throw
it to him.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Every time.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
He was throwing it too, Drake London every time because
he was like this, Oh he's better than who's ever
guarding him. Right here, He's going to be open, so
I'm gonna throw it there. I don't think they thought
Drake London had it like that. That's what it is due.
And I mean telling you they were up, you know,
balling in the first halfage and Buffalo was down like
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what Josh was five or twelve ninety eight yards and
one of those plays was forty five yards, so really
he got forty fuck with forty fifty.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Three yards on the other four plays or something.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You know what Buffalo was doing too though, Where's James Cook?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Dude? He was only seven to thirty in the first half.
You know what I'm saying, too much?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
James Cook? And what happened in the third quarter? They
come out and they go cooking out and like all
the way down the field bro seventy three touchdown halftime adjustments, Hey, halftime,
They halftime and right after game adjustments is good. They
just came out like, I don't know, maybe something happens
(22:22):
later on throughout. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I don't they can't they get uncharacteristic. Yeah, and then
you know, I believe in the defense. The next possession
against Atlanta, they sat dude on the first down for
thirteen yards, putting them behind the sticks. They couldn't they
couldn't catch back up, had to pump the rock yep.
Buffalo then go for it on fourth and two and
(22:45):
don't get it with the.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Pass with the then the Josh Allen with the underhand
flip jont mm hmm. That came up a little short, yo.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
He could have he could have overhead, he could have
a gate, could have got it. Tour. I think he
was scared dude was up only and he ain't want
to look back to see so he just he just.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Tried to do the quick. Yeah, the quick get it
out to him. You know what I'm saying. That ain't work.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, that ain't work at all. And in Atlanta they
get down there, they trying to capitalize, but again another
field goal block, bro, Like these dudes, what was raining
there too? I can understand that they did get a
new ball in though I don't know little head over there,
(23:32):
a little hell over there. They but the defense they
blocked the field goal.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, I give it to him.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't know why I be wanted because you know
how hard it is to block the field goal, Like
it's it's extremely hard to block a field goal. Bro.
I love like to get that push and and and
get the hands up and make sure like and hopefully
the you know, the dude kicks the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's not as you know, his trajectory is not.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
As high as it you know, it may need to
be like like that's hard.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Anyway, they ended up trading.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I believe it was two three and outs Atlanta again with.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Six minutes forty three seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Dude, they go fourteen play sixty eight yards, they hold
it for five minutes and they score field goal, putting
them up ten like that. That hurt him, Yeah, that
hurt him. And even you know later that later that
drive Josh Allen, he ends.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Up on that kind of thing team, Yes, because they
were trying to drive down there, get down He was
trying to make sure they tried to score like he
wanted to score. Then they would have the on side kick,
on side kick and see where they can go, See
they can go from there.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So it was down there over once they got that
last that last when when twenty four or fourteen, Yeah,
when they took up that five minutes, like it's over with,
like you need ten points, like you need a you
need to score, and then you still gotta get an
onside kick. Has anybody recovered an on side kick this year?
Shit after I know of Yeah, I don't, I don't.
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I don't think so, man, Like you gotta say I'm
about to kick it on side and then you gotta
go and you don't even get the run. It's starting
no more. You know, getting on side kick, man, you
gotta you gotta do something. You gotta do something crazy
to get on side kick man.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
No, the onside case, it was already hard to do.
You gotta you gotta get the perfect bounce. You gotta
hopefully get that thing where it bounces over the dude
that's back there by the second dude's head. So it's
a lot of a lot of things, and now you
can't take off like you said, you like basically, yeah,
they making.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It too hard to get the on side kicks.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Atlanta balled out though, Dude, they started early before you
knew it. It was already you know, twenty one to
seven half time, like they just dominated in the run game.
It was I mean Buffalo's defense, I mean they I
didn't expect.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Them to do that well. And in the run game.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You know, even though Buffalo's defense, like I said, it's
ranked thirtieth, but Dejon finished nineteen for one seventy rushing
in the tudy and he still had sixty eight receiving.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Bro, Like, that's your boy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
London, Yes, yes, yes, and damn their two tudies it
only got white like Atlanta. Bro.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It kind of it kind of shocked me because I'm
always expecting Buffalo with Josh Allen, and I don't know
that the defense isn't doing too well. But with Josh Allen,
I'm always expecting them to be able to score points,
be able to keep it close. I don't really wasn't
expecting too much from Atlanta. I haven't really seen too
much to.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Be you think Buffalo might have been overlooking him.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They could have been.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
But at the same time, I mean, yeah, that's not
I'm not going to take away from what they did
on the field. Atlanta had to do those things. They
had to go ball, they had to go make those plays.
Pennix wasn't just throwing on routes on air. People were
out there and they were making the catches, they were
making the plays.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Jon was a man.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think he was just showing people have really may
not be able to watch his games, but now you can.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Really see how good he actually is. In nineteen for
one seventy that's special, you know what I'm saying. Catching
the ball on the back there, being able to turn
it up, that's special.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah. So they were and then.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Terrell like a couple of their dbat the cornerback TJ.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Terrell.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Terrell, he's a baller and I've seen him making a
couple of plays on those third down stops. So I
mean it was just a good overall effort from them,
but I always I just expected a little bit more
from from Buffalo. Yeah, I think I think Panics did
a good job. He was almost two hundred and fifty
or maybe a little over two hundred and fifty yards.
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Big thing though he had no turnovers, Like that's the
big thing. Even though it was a couple of balls
that was you know, that was in hands that they
could have got got a hold of and took the
other way.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
But you know, if it was the fifth we all
be drunk too. But no harm.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
You know what I'm saying. I think they need big
thing they need to improve, you know, on their on
their second half.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Sustain the momentum from the first half.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Bro, Like I said, you put put your foot on
their throat and choke them out, like, choke them out.
Try not to get your kick blocked too. But that
that's that's that's a given. But limit the big plays
that you know, Alan got some big chunk plays here
and there that allowed them to get down the field
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and be.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
In position to score or score an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So I think I think that's what they really need
to to focus on.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I think it was a lot too with the buff
With the Buffalo, you can't, like end of the day,
no matter how they you can't lose the turnover battle
like that.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You can't josh out even with those plays with the
handing the ball off with the like the third downs,
the short the short plays the fourth and two's the
knock averting on those, that's that, that's them.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's a turn over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
On the third and one, they're trying to run the
jet sweep, fumbling the handoffs, having a punt on that
when you could really sustain the drive like those are
drive killers. And then when you turn the ball over
with picks, that's just not winning football.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And then with them you just keep that. That's that's
how the Falcons are playing well, running the ball well,
converting bjon, being able to control the clock. You're not
being able to have that many possessions, and if you're
wasting them on turnovers, you're not gonna get the ball
that many times to give you a chance to win
the game.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So I think it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Was a tough game for the Bills because you can't
lose a turnover battle.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And then at the same time Atlanta they're not turning
it over, they're toting it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
They're converting. You know what I'm saying, it's scoring. So
I mean it was there was.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Good some pressure on aland now mh for sure, I
don't get at twisted either just straight rushing or they
were you know, blitzing coming with five like they were.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know, they were doing they were doing what they
needed to do.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Understand that, you know, Josh was missing, you know, a
receiver to a few weapons. But you know that's part
of the game. You got to be able to, you know,
go down there and figure it out and figure out
what you need to do to get some get some
quality that's close to what you know, what that person was,
or at least get to get somewhere close to the
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abilities to you know, still do the things that they
could do to some you know, to some extent. They
need to sustain drives. It was you know, too many penalties.
I think they had eight penalties or something like that.
They have to find a way to improve.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Their run defense.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
If they don't do something with that, it is hard
road to hold and you cannot stop the run because
now you've got to put more people up there to
try and stop it, and now the play action is
going to destroy you. They lucky them boys were sitting
in the gun because the play action is real fast.
Then you get a team that's running that rock on you,
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and they coming from under the quarterback and they getting
that good play action where you're sitting there, you ain't.
You're looking at a blind hand because you lost vision
of the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You know what I'm saying. The tackles.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know what I'm saying, bro, I know exactly what
you talk about.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You start getting oh, where's the ball? I don't know. Bomb.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Now you see that the lineman ain't coming at you,
So now you just start trying to dig out of
there for your life, hoping you're going in the right direction.
Well you're going in the right direction of your coverage,
but you don't know if the person is going to
be there. You know for sure you could have maybe
affected something that was closer.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't Uh, I don't know, man.
I think.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think Buffalo just just looks very beautiful now to me, dude,
I feel like I feel like we might you know,
I feel like we might be up there in the
top two or three in the in the in the
AFC period, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
just how I feel.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, I feel the same way you feel with that,
like defense looking good, getting better offense, He's starting to
get all the weapons. I mean, we got Washington, we
got DK coming into his own, we got the real
running game now with Warren. Is it a two headed
monster in game? Well too with warning game? Well, just
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both total and the rock like that. I don't know,
I'm just asking you, is that what you're saying that?
I mean, I'm not still just look good? Yeah, man,
you know I don't want to get started too early.
I'm just I'm just going to focus on what we
gotta get to first, and that's just the North.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know. Oh does that do y'all play? Do we
play the Bengals this week? Is? I mean, listen, I'm
asking you fucking debo. Okay, okay, I'm hoping it's me
played the band. I'm gonna give you the we since
you defected yesterday. He was in the locker room. We
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was in the locker room together. We we we So
we played the Bangles on Thursday. Speaking of player of
the Bengals. Uh my t opening question the Browns uh
decision making for their general manager Andrew Berry on trading
Flacco to the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Listen to this, you know, to be honest, it was
shocking to me.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
But that's just my personal feelings. What's sah?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
What you what? You?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
What?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
You? What you take from that? Bro?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Hey, bro, I love coach t I because you know
what I take from it. I'm like he said, we
must be a lot smarter than us. He basically at
the end of the day, he wanted to play Browning
over the Flacco. I would say, if I was coach
T and if he is the starting quarterback for your team,
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why would you help a division opponent in any type
of way that we see is linking oil? You know
what I'm saying, Like, trade him somewhere, but don't trade
him there because now we got a plan.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
We gotta go against them people.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I ain't nowhere.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's gonna be close to my division. If I can't
trade him away, he gonna sit there. I might even
move him to three if that's how bad you feel
about it. I am not gonna give him to somebody
that I gotta play again and have an opportunity to
beat me with the guy that I said, you.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Getting traded over here because you can't do nothing for us.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Maybe you could do something over there, but I really
don't think you could do nothing over there. That's why
I traded you to my division opponent. That's really what
Mike is saying. I don't see it. I don't understand it.
He's smarter than me. Really, what he's saying is I
don't see it. I don't understand he's a dumb ass.
That's what he wanted to say, what he wanted to say.
But dang, what he said, I can say that's what
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he wanted to say. I'm just interpreing to what I
felt was said in between. That's the words that weren't said.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Because when when somebody said, when somebody pops off and
saying he must be a lot smarter than me, that
he's fucking dumber than me, like.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Hey, hey, hey, your son, your son, Hey, oh, I
guess you. I guess you donna have more experience than me,
you know, more than I do. Oh, I guess you
no more to pops, don't you? Oh mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So like, I know he's being cybect sarcastic with it,
but at the same time going against the what you
call it?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
What you call it?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
What sarcastic?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
What was the word before that? What was what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I thought you said cyber. I'm like, what that need? No,
no sarcastic. I'm like, what's that one?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
No, no, no sarcastic. Because now I think Coach T
is taking I think Coach is saying something for real though, Bro,
you know what he's saying. He don't believe like you're
not supposed to do that, like and especially he started
for us, he started for the Browns, Like you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yo, you know what?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That might make sense why he ain't released me early
in the season when I was asking for my last year.
Then no, bro, no, he's not.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
No, no, no, no, what.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You gonna have you go there and try to bust
up the quarterback for this? No, You're gonna sit right
here be mad I'm not You're not gonna go over there.
You're't going nowhere. No, no, sit right here for a bit.
I almost got a chance though. If they had won
that playoff game, we would have seen them in New
England though. Oh my see, I know I lied to you.
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I'd have been forming at them off like a rabbit
all got. Really that's like, and that's why, and that's
why coach know not to do it, because you look
at you look at that honestly know they don't want
none of that smoke, the vote, that additional bullet bullet,
bulletin board material.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
No he no, no, no question man. Aaron Rodgers had
something to say about the Actorstu Field.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Man. He said, it is borderline unplayable. Bro. What you
think of actual field, dude, Well, I think it was
the actature when you play it was it.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Heines Field, it was Haines. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
What do you think of the field period? It's still
cared for about the same crew. I'm assuming they don't
change cruise.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I mean, it definitely wasn't the worst, but it definitely
wasn't the best. I liked that it was grass at least,
but I think during the beginning of the season, it'd
be better than at the end of the season, maybe
other events and all the stuff that they got, pit
playing on it and everybody that uses the field. It
kind of gets a little wre down. But at the
beginning of the season wasn't mad at all. But when
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you play there towards the end, you can tell it's
been a lot of way to tear.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
So they can definitely do. The main thing is keeping
that field right. They could do more of trying to
keep people off of it, you know what I'm saying,
as much as possible, But if not, I mean just
maintenance in it.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I don't know how they could possibly do. But the
Browns Field, I know that joint was maintenance. This one,
I would say this I during the small seasons.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, I'm with you. It's multiple use. It's multiple uses
for it, Like I believe, I don't even know if
it's the time, but I think sometimes they may even
have like concerts in there or something or some type
of show in there. But the big thing is, like
you got you got two different teams playing on the surface,
and right now it ain't even bad, Aaron, you ain't
seen it bad yet. Wait till the playoffs. For the
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high school start. High school teams are playing in there,
and they may or may not be able to get
the field back right. Like grass don't just grow overnight,
you know what I'm saying, real natural grass like it
don't it don't just grow overnight. And to spend the money,
spend the money to reside it, you still need a
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few days for it to you know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Take that.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
When we played, and I think it was two thousand
and seven, it was rain and rain and raining, and
I think uh Pitt had played before that or something,
and so they tried to do a swapover of the
field and they put the new turf over the old
turf because I guess it was like so wet, dude,
and it just the ball like it's places where you
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can see we're playing Miami.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I think PZ had just went there in two thousand
and seven.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And my foot slides down into the dirt like up
to like over the top of my ankle. Dude, it's
like quarterway up my shin. See that's that's not okay,
oh dude, Like he ain't, he ain't. You've seen nothing yet.
What they're doing now is you know, the sand dirt,
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all that they just filling in the divots, sprinkling it
down with some water and throw some throw some grass seed.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
But you know, it's only been what a week.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
In between the last game that was on there, maybe
two at the most. It needs more time than that.
And then before that, I think Pitt was on it
every weekend for two weeks straight. I think they may
actually use it on Friday and Saturday when they play Saturdays.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
That's that's that's not going that's not going to keep you.
Like you said, it's natural grass. It takes more than
a day to grow back. And if you got other
people using it and breaking it down, like you said,
I didn't know high school games on it. I just
do it was pit and probably like some concerts and stuff.
But the more that you use that.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Feeling in the playoffs, dude, they have they have a
lot of games there.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, Yeah, that's gonna break it up. That's gonna happen. No,
the main you gotta keep the main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, your boy has them. Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
They got a new deal going with brook Park. They
moving to brook Park, Yes they are?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
You like it over there? Is it a good area?
What's going down? What's better. Which one would you like to?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
What you prefer?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
The Browns fans probably want it downtown in the city
in Cleveland, like around downtown where the Basketball Stadium is
and where the Indians.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I mean, where the Guardian Stadium is. Everybody likes downtown
because that's where it's always been.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I know, the Haslms.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
They're gonna make it look amazing. They're gonna build it
in brook Park.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
They're gonna build like a whole hotels and restaurants and
all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's gonna look where it's brook Park in comparison to downtown.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
It's probably twenty minutes away. It's like right by the airport.
Oh it ain't that far.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Oh no, it's not far at all.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's twenty minutes away from where it's at right now,
literally twenty minutes down the street.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
And they're gonna make a whole. They're gonna make it
look amazing. I think the city's just a little upset
because they want it downtown. They want to keep Cleveland
and everything like kind of down there. I know for
one thing, whatever it has them going to do, they're
gonna make it look beautiful and they're going to be
able to make all the money from the.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Stuff like the parking and all that.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
They're not being able to get that when they have
the stadium downtown right now, That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So when they come.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Build their stuff, I think they're gonna be able to
make a whole lot of money and it's going to
be beautiful for Cleveland. There's nothing really down there, so
I think it's gonna make Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
If it ain't nothing down there where you gonna go to,
you know where the fans go to when they.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Do they building it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I'm telling he building a whole but it's a stadium
with a whole little city. Oh the brown did the
passms are going to They're not doing it like baby.
They about to spend some dough and this joint's going
to look crazy. But it's just moving it from downtown
to another location. That's what Cleveland's worried about. I know
it's gonna look vicious. So when they go and it's
probably gonna have a dome, so then they're able to
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get like if.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
The super Bowl, you can't host the super Bowl if
you have a dome. You know what I'm saying. So
certain things they can do concert Venards.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
It's gonna be a dome. I think it's gonna be
a dome too. Yeah, it's a dome.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Now they get a super Bow. I ain't got worry
about the weather stopping. I ain't got to worry about
none of that. We ever got a super Bowl in Pittsburgh,
I don't think so. I don't think because I don't
I think you got to have a dome or something
like that. Brother, mm hmm, Yeah, we ain't gonna never
have one in Pittsburgh. Ain't about getting no don But
it ain't going like that. They ain't never about to
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get no dom. Man. That's why Cleveland man ain't.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Man. Cleveland ain't think we was ever gonna get no dome.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
So it's a dome. Wer it's not a dome. You
said you think it's a dome. You don't know if
it's done. I think it's a dome for sure. You
think it's a dome for sure? That not a what Hey,
I'm a I'm one hundred percent right all the time
most of the time.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
See you said to.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Me, I know, I just I just said some bullshit
de bo, I just bullshit, man, I did you caught
me on it?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Good too, Branch for firing off on Juju.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I really just said that.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
What you say, no, my bad?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Go ahead, brother, I said, I really just said some bullshit.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
So the NFL this suspended Branch for firing off on Juju.
It's gonna cost him seventy six thousand, six twenty four.
Branch is planning to a pillock. But the Vice President
of Football Operations, John Runyon said on the penalty, your
aggressive non football play Act was entirely unwarranted, posted a
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risk of injury, and clearly violated the standards of conduct
and sportsmanship expected of NFL players. Your conduct reflected poorly
on the NFL and has no place in our game.
Brent said, I did a little childish thing, but I'm
tired of people doing stuff in between plays and.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Refs don't catch it.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
They trying to bully me out there, and I I
shouldn't have did it. It was childish.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Hey listen, I'm gonna tell you this right now. Go ahead,
pop off, Debo. Look at this picture, Joe, can you
please put the picture? Look at this picture, Joe.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
See the picture, Joe, Man, I want you to look
at Juju's left ear. This man is dragging him around
by his ear. Here, Bro, that's that looks that's so disrespectful.
Punch me in the face. Bro, that's how my mama
do well. Not my mama, other mamas do my mama.
Go beat the dog ship out. Okay, you gonna drive me.
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You see his face?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
He getting drugged by the juju? What's going on? Bruh.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You can't get you can't have this on national everything.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You get drugged by your ear?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
What you should have did instead of after he hit
you and you did the fake fall back, you should
have just fired back right then and there. No what
what's your what's your take on it? What do you
think or how would you have responded? I would have
got down here with your ear getting grad You know
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you got big ears too, bro. He might messed around
and ripped that off. See debo. There you go, shut
your assoup my ears.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
So look this is this is this was popping debo.
I would have definitely had to fire back off on
branch if he popped me right in.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
My head after the game.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Natural reaction would have been boom boom. That's just natural
reaction because at the same time were the.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Same you coming over here like boom and then but
this is my part. I think Juju, did you you
know when he hit him in the back, not hit
him in the back, but kind of like cracked back
on him that he was feeling some type of wall.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
He popped him. He popped him in the game. But
that was he popped him in the game, and that
and that and that's what and that's what My other
part is with Branch, it's not right to come in
steal off on.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Somebody after the game.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
When you said people be doing stuff all in between
the wristlers.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
The ref don't call it.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I'm like you in the game too, catch him you
hand slipping, and then you gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
And then there's no seventy eight thousand dollars five.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
You're not having to like literally fight somebody after the
game is over. Now it's time, like people go into
the locker room shaking hands, like you had so much
time doing the game to pop off on Juju or
like just catch them.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
If you saying they got.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Three hours, you got three hours to go ahead, try
and steal on him one good time legally in between
the lines. And we on defense too, so you you
see him brand you could, you could just one time,
you know what, there's a tackle play going over there. File,
ma'ma just file on Juju. It's in the play like
you might not even get a flag, you know what
I'm saying. It was just me just be close to it,
(47:46):
just be around it, but close to it, and make
sure he close to it and go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
And I just ain't I just ain't like him stealing
off on my man after the game is over.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
That's just my whole part. And then obviously.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Juju got retaliated, like you you could just fire back
after the game.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
He tried to pull the little the fake jont the bluff.
I'm like, oh, it's a fight though now, but the
game's over. Games over, Like it's a real fight now.
He's right there. Unless somebody's like when they still they
hold me back, hold me back. I'm like, nobody's holding
back right now. Everybody's here, chick. Something can really go
down right now. And it got and it got and
it started getting to it. So that was unfortunate that
(48:26):
my man I got on the ground and started pulling
my mask's ear He's dragging me by his ear bro
because he flewed his head his face mask and then
ripped him by the face and his face mask and
then start dragging me by his ears.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
I don't condone. I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I don't condone this sort of violence. No, I condone
it at all, neither I know and I know you don't. Also,
i'd that it was just crazy how he popped off
of him. I don't condone that kind of violence, yeah,
because I always go say any kind but I condone
some kind of Yeah, there's some type of viol branches apology, man,
I ain't no apology.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
You can't say did the childish thing and then go
with the excuse me the butt the butt when you
say sorry. But that's like me, Hey Joe, man, I'm
sorry for hitting you in your face, but you know
you shouldn't have said what you said no no, no
no after that. But that kills everything that you said
(49:24):
before it. You can't do the butt. He did a butt.
But I'm tired of people doing stuff between the player
and the rest catch it.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
They be trying to bully me, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
With child dude.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
I'm not yet. I can't. No, they was finding me
for plays on the field. And I was losing it.
I got suspended, dude, like for for for a play
on the field, Like I'm not I'm not trying to
lose no game, you know what, pasy that was my
first start, man, Oh yeah, we start I ever got
(49:59):
was peace he fighting dude at the brows. Yeah, I
agree before the game, dude, that was my first start.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I got, dude, Hey.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
And the thing was he split up. I totally forgot that, bro.
He spit on psy or yes, yes that's what that's
what ended up. How you can find the tape like
you can see it, like he look like that right there. Yeah,
(50:34):
he got he got suspended, well just for that game.
He lost the game check. Of course, you lose it,
you lose a game check. I don't even know if
he lost the game check though. I think they might
have just kicked him out the game, to be honest
with you, I don't even think. I don't even think
they got fine for that.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
You know, in the g they're like, man, go to
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Man for two thousand five something like that symptom. Yeah
that was dam.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Good old time, yeah for sure, for sure, yo.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Speaking of good old time, man, the Eagles like my
dude said it was time he retired mid season Smith
after the loss to the Giants he retired. So yeah, dude,
that sang Bro, I was, I like that gotta be
(51:25):
like just looking at looking at the statement, like it
gotta be something like like real, like like personal going on.
I don't know too many people that just without some
other issues or or or something going on, you know,
personally that just you know, retires in the middle, you know, for.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
The season, like you know what, the people I think
dudes now are starting to just you know, I think
he probably was thinking.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
About it for a little.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Bit and then once you get into the season, things
start starting not really rocking the way you kind of want.
The two And I know today he's made he been
a leaf for a while kind of o g made
a little bit of made some bread. You know, it
could just be, Man, I don't feel like doing this
no more. You know what I'm saying. I don't know, Man,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I can't. I can't do that. That's I guess that's
just me me personally. Because when I came back to
the Stellers in twenty fourteen, Bro and we were playing uh,
we were about to play Tampa and so they signed
me back up and I'm out there and the first
practice it was I believe it was that Wednesday, right,
(52:36):
and you know that's full past.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
So you know, we go, we do the path thing.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
That next day, Bro, I was like, yeah, I can't
believe I signed.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
My body was hurting me. Bro, I was so hurt, dude,
Like I'm sitting there like, you know what, I don't know,
I really want to do this, like I know I did,
Like I'm doing it only because like my brother's the
guys that I've been there with, you know for ten
plus year. It's Troy, It's it's Keyesel. I'm like, you
(53:12):
know what my kids say, Yes I can. So I
came back and now I'm sitting there, I'm like, yo,
I can't. I don't even know if like I might
have to Dude, I can't come in for practice. The
next my body just did not it, dude. It took
it took a good probably good three four days for
my body to get back right. And then we had
(53:33):
a game. So we planned playing against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
So Bruh. Into the game, They're like, yeah, we go.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Use you sparingly, you know, you know, maybe fifteen or
so snaps, I'm like, all right, cool, I could work
my way back into it. Man. Forty three snaps later, bro,
I'm like, oh my god, see a fresh off dude,
fresh off the fresh off the street bro off retired.
I mean I was only retire for like fourteen fifteen days,
two weeks something like that, but like I'm like, yo,
(54:03):
I haven't went through you know, training and none of that.
Like it was like I'm like, nah, this is not yeah,
this is not this is not me. And the only
I ain't even like to you, dude. The only thing
that stopped me was like I was like, you know
what my daddy said, you start something, you finished, and
(54:23):
that's the only thing that kept me going. Brou I felt,
you know, I went back into the emotions of being
getting used to it, like liking playing again, falling back
in love with the game. So I ended up signing it,
you know, a couple more years after that. But dude,
I just I don't know if I could I could
(54:44):
do that, and just like, yeah, I know, you know
I was supposed to do this or do that, unless,
like I said, you're dealing with something real personal.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
You know that you you need to remove yourself from it.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
You know, yeah, it could. It could.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
It could.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Like like you said to you, you never know what people
are going through. It could be family, it could be that.
But at the same time, if you don't want to
be there, that's a place you don't need to be.
You can't play football NFL professional football. So if you're
kind of like your heart's not in it, you're not
trying to be there.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Listen, listen. My heart was in it. My body wasn't
cooperating with My heart was saying my body you.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
You you're a good man.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
And the pain in my low back bruh, like it was,
it was not It was not good. I'm sitting there
and it was we're playing the game, right and I
go to jump over the dude, And as I go
to jump over the dude, like my feet get hit
and I land on my back. Right man, You know,
I don't jump that high like I already had. You know,
(55:50):
I had a couple of back surgery, so I ain't
jumping that high.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Man.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
I couldn't have been no higher than like this off
the ground. But I landed on my back. Bro I
think I told you this. Man, I look at Mike
t he looked at me, and then after the game
he was like, yeah I saw it, and yeah I
saw it on your face.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
He was about to make a business decision thinking about
giving it. I was like, yeah, like that it dude,
it hurts so bad.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I was like, oh my god, I didn't believe Grask
the fielders.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Was the worst thing ever.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Thursday, We're go going out here, pop on them Bungos,
I mean, Bengals, my bracest. Keep keep messing me, messing
up my words. But mess up when you want them
to mess up. But before before we do that, Oh
it mess up when I wanted to mess out. Okay, before,
(56:41):
but before we do that. That's the start of the
new week. Who is your week? Seek defensive playout of
the week? Man?
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Who you going with?
Speaker 3 (56:53):
We're gonna go with the new coming of von Miller,
the defensive end for the Broncos fifteen?
Speaker 1 (57:02):
What do you get?
Speaker 2 (57:04):
What do you get?
Speaker 1 (57:04):
What he got?
Speaker 3 (57:05):
All I know is I think he had two sacks,
two sacks, two sacks. He balled out and I just
liked him because they I was happy that the Broncos
they used their picks that they got for to get him,
and he's just been having a great year.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Man, I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
go with a.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
I'm gonna go with Devin White, linebacker for the for Vegas. Man.
Dude had nine tackles, one sack, one forst form one
and interception.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
Oh man, yeah, Devin White, he used to be with
a Tampa. Yeah, it's my good man. Let's go team George.
He's a Jordan Brand athlete?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Is he a Speaking of Jordan Brand, let's get back
to that.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
I don't know if y'all notice Joe supposed give me
some Jordans. Oh shucks. I kept going forgetting what what?
And you say, hold on for fourteen? You keep forgetting
every time I tell you about it. But I ain't
gonna say nothing. But I'm really looking for some of them.
You know what is they that? I don't even know
(58:12):
what that is. It's some of the Dans out there.
But anyway, you didn't even matter. I said, I just
want some and man, this one this time, Debo, I
promise you, I gotta go talk to Jordans. Nope, you
don't even gotta talk to him. I got you go
directly to the source. You know what I'm saying? Like Size,
(58:33):
I thought you were the source. You know I could
be wrong. All right, Look who I thought you was.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
I thought you were tap into me offline, tap into
me offline.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Okay, I was just checking. Man, I thought you was that.
You know that, you know that person? I got you
said it anyway, Man, Look, we got to the end here, man,
So what we're gonna do here is uh, what's that
right there? We gotta what we got there? Super Chat? Okay,
(59:05):
what are the super Chat talking about?
Speaker 1 (59:08):
I can't where is that?
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Little little is that?
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Little? David Six's one said? Whatever, whatever we hurt Jaylen Daniels,
the rest made made up for it. BS call in Chicago.
What the hell is he talking about?
Speaker 1 (59:33):
All right?
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Man, whatever, I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, thank yeah, yeah,
thanks for watching. Hey listen, we want to thank y'all
for joining us yes on this episode, The Debo and
Joe on every episode The Debo and Joe, Like, we
really appreciate y'all. We need y'all here. But when you
write something that I can't reaffluently, that's what you get.
(59:56):
You need to put some punctuation in it. Hey, make
sure you like and some subscribe Joe Yo, make sure
you like a subscribe. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
We're gonna be back here on Friday to talk about
how our stellers whooped the Bengals and so yeah, we're
gonna have detailed messages about that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Let's get to it r R and we and we
out
Welcome back to Debo and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like
and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you
doing today, y'all? I'm doing solid, brother Debo.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Another good day to be on this thing, talking that
good football.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How we do no question, baby, Let's just go ahead
and jump straight into it. So the Bears went on
ahead and beat the Commanders by one point twenty five
to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Dude, Chicago, I was, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I was a little I was a little impressed, a
little not impressed, but you know, here and there. But
Chicago came out on the first drive, dude, and they
went and said, you know what, we went and picked
up Moody for a reason. We go put him to use,
and they put him out there, brod let him get
a try at a forty seven yard field goal. After
he done got let go for missing field goal?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Was and all that and what he do, Joe, he
cashed in fast then brother cash Dowshtan good money, good money.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So Washington come back out there. I'm thinking they gonna answer.
They start moving the ball. Bro. They going down the field,
they get to like the twenty twenty one yard line,
and your boy, Jayden Dannalds, what happened? I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
This is this is what you don't need, and this
is how you lose games at home. He threw a
peck in the red song red zone, the worst place
that you want to you want to throw it, dude.
It makes absolutely like that that kills you, that hurts
you do.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Chicago comes back out and they you know, they're about
to capitalize with another what was it, forty forty eight
yard field goal? Moody dropped down on it again. Go ahead,
give it to him. They got three points off the turnover. Bro,
that was up six nothing, Bro, six nothing. I'm like,
still early. You know, maybe maybe Washington they go they
(02:02):
go get their stuff together, you know, dude. Next persession,
dude fumbles the rock and Chicago recovers it. I'm like, Okay,
maybe they not gonna get it together. No, maybe it's
a bad day, dude. Chicago comes in thirty five yards
dude of the uh uh thirty five yards on the
(02:24):
first what was it their first touchdown?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It was only thirty five yards.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
They had to go thirteen to seven, I mean thirteen
to zero at that point. Now they didn't. They didn't
turn the ball over twice and then gave up a
total of ten yards on the turnovers. Like that right
there is not winning football, dude. No, that's how you're
gonna lose games at home, dude, no question. And then
(02:49):
Washington comes out and actually I think Chicago ended up
helping them. I think they got a penalty on the
third down that was an incompletion and it was a
face mask that helped him. And they went on ahead,
scored a touchdown, and I was close again. It's thirteen
to seven, man, we got an action going yep, we
(03:12):
got a game. Oh yeah. And then Chicago they do
some goofy stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They go forward, they went for it on fourth down.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
But you passed the ball, dude, Wow, why would you?
Why would you pass the rock? Bron didn't They didn't.
They have somebody that was doing pretty well running that
ball right then and there.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I think he on that same drive he had
a ten and a twenty I think on on that
same drive just too. Why wouldn't I just give him
the rock and go ahead? Let him dust up this
one real quick. That that didn't make no sense to me.
Right there. Washington the ball back and they got kind lucky,
(03:57):
unlucky that they only Washington only scored a field goal.
Oh man, Oh, they missed that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
They missed that one.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
That's the one they missed when he hit the upright,
that's the one that he did.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That was loud as hell. It hit that uprights. Yeah,
it left up right.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, halftime seventeen seventeen thirteen. It could have been worse, though,
has thirteen seven, Yeah, thirteen seven. I'm sorry Daniels coming
back out, he gets an intentional brownding that kind of
backs him up.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
But they ended up settling for a field goal.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So it's ten thirteen hours by that time Chicago gets
back out there and it's the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I think they only went like six plays and they
ended up scoring a touchdown. That's what it was. They
scored a touchdown, but they got a penalty of it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, yes, that's what it was. Right then they ended
up getting the field goal on that to the field.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Goal settling, that was at least you at least you
got something right, Yeah, no, for sure, but sure you
got to get something, Washington. They come out, they kind
of returned to favor, you know what I'm saying. They
go forward on fourth down, they get they get thirteen yards,
and then they actually get up because McDaniels throws what
(05:23):
was it McCaffrey McAffrey seventeen sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yes, yes, yes, So that's when Jaydon Dames they started
looking better.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
They took the lead. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Don't know if I would have Well, the weather was bad,
so maybe I would have did the same thing man.
And they started Then the Bears get the ball back. Yeah,
just when it's look started looking a little shaky though.
De boat on that third and it was looking good, good, good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
And then that third and one he marveled the snap
and when they were looking like they could have easily
got that first down, he marbles so they lost yards.
Went for the field and they blocked the joint.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Dude, there's been so many block field goals and extra
points and stuff. Dude, like, what are they I don't
know what's going on. Are you allowed to jump over?
Did they change the rules on that age?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
You can jump, you can jump over, but you can't
leverage yourself. You know, you can't push off nobody.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I think these dudes nobody, Yeah, these dudes tall the
tall bro. Yeah, Washington come out. They go six players though,
thirty sixty three yards Tuddy twenty four to sixteen. Thinking
the gates about the burst open, Bro, Like maybe Washington
and got themselves together, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
And that is not the case.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Three plays Chicago sixty one yards touchdown. Who did that?
Right there?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
My man swift brother, he was balling, like catching the
ball out of the backfield, you know, a little short pass.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He took fifty took it to the crib.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They went for two. But they missed that too. Dude, yep,
I mean they down.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They're down, so right now bears down to.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Ye trading punts. I think through that and I believe
Washington ended up. This is when the un in the
rock over. They fumbled the ball on the exchange. Jaydon
Daniels slippery ball, was trying to hand it off.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
He kind of just threw it to him a little bit,
and but he missed it and they didn't even.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Throw it to him. He never got a hold of
the ball through. But that's what the whole time, and
just he just I don't know what he was.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He couldn't.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He went out of a panic and just grab it.
That's what I'm saying. You could just he was trying
to grab it and hand it off at the same time,
and it didn't even touch my man. It was nowhere
near his bread basket. But he needed to get the
rock so that joint bears bears fell on that.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So that that's costly.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Oh, no question, Scotti get the ball. I think it
was like almost six minutes left.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
End up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Knowing that they're going to run the rock. They hand
the rock to I think Swift like five times. You
get almost thirty five yards. Dude, knowing that it's a
runner situation, and you let these boys basically run the
clock out until they decided to kick a thirty eight
yard game with her with my dude Moody who came
(08:28):
through and showed him why he still should.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Be in the league one thousand percent. Yeah, it's uh bruh, Washington, Yo.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
They they can't. They can't do what they did there.
The turnovers the biggest thing. The turnovers killed him, Like
like you gotta you gotta be able to at least
have a little bit more ball security than that like
the penalties y'all. Y'all they had too many, you know,
self inflicted wounds, you know, hurting themselves. You know. It
(09:04):
wasn't anything that you know, was done to him.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I feel like him not having.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
What's the receiver he did not mc man stamp uh
McLaren scary, scary, scary terry.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah he yeah, yeah. I think I think that that
hurt him.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Not being able to have that that deep threat, to
be able to stretch the field.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I think that hurt him right there.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And the offense themselves just they need to get more
of a consistent run game, dude, you know. But Chicago,
they went on out there. Bro jumped on their neck.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
They do that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Had they started off real fast, thirteen up swift, bruh
ot to control. He was bawling Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Fourteen for one to eight and he had sixty seven
rushing Tuddy.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And the biggest thing for me too, was at the
end of the game when they knew he had to
run the rock, and he ran the rock from six
minutes all the way down so they could kick the
field goal when the clock ran out. Like that part
of the game, being able to know you have to
run the ball we're trying to melt this clock. We
need to get down and this field goal could win
the game. And then knowing he was gonna run and
(10:27):
him still running it was my thing was like, that's
that's going to help out Caleb Williams so much. Taking
off pressure, not feel like you got.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
To do everything.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know, they know you're gonna run, and you still
was able to hand it off to him, run it
down there, be able to get him in field goal range,
got to the seventeen yard line.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If we can't make that, then we didn't deserve to win.
So I was happy for Swift.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
To be able to go out there and then being
able to not put.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All the pressure on Caleb.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, he didn't, just didn't turn the ball over, which
was big. Soon the defense they came up big three
turnovers to capitalize on that, getting thirteen points off those turnovers,
you know, and and mooie, man, if you don't get
if you don't get player player, Special Teams Player.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Of the Week, I don't know. I don't know who
deserve it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like I said, Caleable, he was you know, he was efficient,
you know, two hundred and fifty yards or so hm
seventeen to twenty nine no turnovers. That's you know, that's
a big thing. That's that's a real big but they
still need to improve. They had nine penalties, and you know,
the defense.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Need to be able to go out there and like,
you know, choke, choke their ass out, put your.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Foot on their neck, you know, when it's time, and
you know, keep the pressure on them. I mean literally
and figuratively, like you know, more consistent pressure and just
when you have the opportunity and you're up there, you
got to you got to put them out their misery.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Dude, No, for sure, And I think some reds one efficiency.
You know, like you said, you kept being out there,
they kept getting those field goals. We need to turn
some of them into touchdowns like it's all good, Like
no no self inflicted wounds with penalties and then just
being able to converting them in those end zone situations,
like being able to get some touchdowns out of that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, for sure. The next one we had what was
it falcons? Listen, dude, this is the crazy thing. So
I'm sitting here bro, and I'm watching these games right, Yes,
so I'm watching both games, and I don't know why
y'all keep doing this. Bro, like a seven and an
eight game and I'm watching both games. I ain't even
(12:26):
lie to you, Bro. At one point, I thought, Bro,
at one point, I thought that I thought. I thought
the Bears was playing the Falcons and Buffalo was playing
the Commanders, man the.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
White Jerseys and the other man. I'm dude, I was,
I was, I was.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I was up there getting confused, man like, like, wasn't
it no, no, no, no, they ain't playing them, especially
like when it's on at the same time and you
doing this, You're like, brother, trying You're trying to get
to split you know, yes, yes, you're trying to get
a lot going on. It's a lot of football going on,
and you want to be engaged too, So I could
(13:06):
I feel you.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
It's it's a lot of moving parts, man, like trying
to watch two games at what time? That shit was
crazy yesterday? And why did they start at sevent ten
and eight? Like, nigga, can they're on at the same
exact time. It's like first quarter in one and like
going about to be halftime in the other one.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Dude, It just it Actually, so I write things down,
and I caught myself writing something down on the Buffalo
side that on the one game that should have been
on the other game, and I did it for like
half a page. I'm like, oh my god, Like, oh
my god, what am I like, I'm his debo?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What am I doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Look, we got it, we got it. We gotta fight
this out for sure. Man, Like, come on, give us like, dude,
do like a do like if you go do that,
like do do a six and a nine or something.
You know what I'm saying, Yes, Like, I mean it's you, damn.
I mean y'all being a little greedy right now. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They get into the bag, debo, They're not worried about
what the hell were talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
They get into the bag, no question. Falcers went out
there and beat up literally, dude, beat up on the
bills bron unexpected. Oh yes, for on my side, I'm
gonna just say how I feel.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I did not expect this in any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Atlanta came out the first play, dude, and they fumbled
the rock and got lucky. Buffalo recovered it. But the
defense was off side, dude. It could have started so
much differently.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
My man came out kicked it.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He stripped that ball good boom, and they recovered it cleanly,
and it was like lined up in the neutral zone.
Oh my god, that that that that that that ubsessed
me so bad with something like that happened, especially when
you have that, You know, a game turned around, play
like that and all of a sudden, something that don't
even really matter, has nothing to do with else was
(15:07):
in the neutral zone.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
There has nothing to do with nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We lose, We lose this ball and the running back
takes off twenty one yards run through the DB's chest, head,
neck and everything else.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Oh my goutness. He looked, he looked for him, He
looked for him. He was he was.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
About to try and like like like Dodgy, and he
was like.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
No, I ain't gonna be a m If I try
and dodge him, he might tackle him. He might tackle him. No,
I want right into him. Boom. I said, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Hey, that's football, man, that's type of football.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I like, I ain't even lie.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I knew you love that because I was like, I
wrote it down. I said, why did he just change
his He could have scored easily with like No, he couldn't, man,
he would have took a chance of trying to get
away and got dragged down tackle and not made the
goal line. So the best way to go is not
trying avoid him, just go straight. He would have had
to take another three four yards like this instead of
just look it's a run throwing. You already got a
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full head of steam.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He coming like sideways anyway, right throwing he did do.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's football versus you. I'm here for that. I'm here
for all of that too. That was I was like,
oh yeah, he set the tone.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
The tone.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Then Josh Allen come back out there. First play forty
five boom woa, and he scrambling another play though in
nineteen nineteen yard touchdown to Allen.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We tied seven to seven. I look like a barn burner.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yuh. I'm like, it's this going to be one of
those games where we get we get forty to forty three.
I'm like, I hate, I hate I know you hate those.
I hate those games. So possession later, Atlanta. They get
a stop on third and three, but it's a defensive
penalty which gives him a first down up they end
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up scoring. Now it's seven or fourteen. They got a
nice little league going.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Now it ain't nice.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It's one touchdown, but it's better than what I thought
they was gonna be able to do.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
No, No, for sure, it's man two drives, two tuddies.
I'm Atlanta, I'm geeked. I'm you know what I'm saying.
I'm feeling we're doing We're doing something right. Oh yeah,
for sure. Atlanta came back out there when Buffalo went out,
they went on here and sacked Josh Allen that next
possession on second and third and third come on and
third down, and they ended up having the punt like defense.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
They did what they had to do right there, that's
no question about it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But Atlanta came back out and I'm like, oh man,
they get sacked on the first play, but what happened.
It's a penalty again off side on Buffalo, and then
that boy bus on the next play takes off on
him for eighty one. How did you not get him tackled?
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Sideline like the bike scratch, something like loll pull, like
when you try to push, even if you push him,
like he's tiptoeing up the sideline out of your arms.
I don't know how he didn't go down, dude, I
don't know how he didn't go down or go out
of bounce. I know how he didn't go down. He
ain't get enough of me. And then beyond nice style, yes,
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beyond nice stout.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah see and he can he could run it and
catch it too.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
M h uh huh.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Definitely Atlanta's next possession, they go forward on I believe
it's fourth down, and they passed the rock. Why are
you passing the rock? And you have Jean sitting right
there and you're going against the thirty years rank run
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defense in the NFL, and whe're going to go and
pass the rock for what?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't know what, I don't know. You know, that's
just bad. That's not a bad that's a bad play
called debo.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I don't I think. I think these these these coaches
and they started trying to outthink and out smart smart
the coordinator. Dude, you know what I'm saying, like like
I don't know, I don't know, Like, dude, this is
what you're doing. They know what you like, make them like,
make them stop it. They can stop you. Then we
get a little bit of drama. First play, Josh Allen
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does something that's not like Joss Allen. He throws a
pick those steps in front of him. Ruh, and here
comes Atlanta. He got greedy, he got gritty and thought
he could make it, got gritty and.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Thought he could make it so wide open, and just
happened to get that second foot step out of bounds
before he was able to lunch across. Dude, that would
have crushed him. That would have been twenty eighth to seventh.
I'm not mad at him, though, I'm not mad.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
I'm not either.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He was listen, I'm the same thing you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I know, you trying to get there. He was trying
to get it.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Wasn't nothing there.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
If he was a little faster, he would he would
have stroked off on him. I know, I know, I know,
I know. He just gotta yeah, he gotta get.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
A little bit more lunch. But I ain't gonna lie.
I wasn't mad at the effort.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And if that would if he would have scored that tuddy,
it would have been ugly.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Ugly old have been super ugly.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
In the end of the half, bro it would have
already twenty eight to seven, twenty eight to seven. Not
to mention your boy, bj he got twelve for one
thirty eight a touchdown and fourteen receiver like what uh
spink Spinks? How you say his name? The quarterback for
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how you say his name?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Bro Pinks?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Pinks Yeah, Pennix Penix, Michael Pennick Jr.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Michael Pennick Jr. He was of nineteen seventy one in
the tuddy. He was dropping and he was you know what,
he was throwing that thing.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
This is what I would have done. What I don't
understand what quarterbacks is. If you have a receiver that's
better than the corner that's guarding him, I'm gonna throw
it to him.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Every time.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
He was throwing it too, Drake London every time because
he was like this, Oh he's better than who's ever
guarding him. Right here, He's going to be open, so
I'm gonna throw it there. I don't think they thought
Drake London had it like that. That's what it is due.
And I mean telling you they were up, you know,
balling in the first halfage and Buffalo was down like
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what Josh was five or twelve ninety eight yards and
one of those plays was forty five yards, so really
he got forty fuck with forty fifty.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Three yards on the other four plays or something.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You know what Buffalo was doing too though, Where's James Cook?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Dude? He was only seven to thirty in the first half.
You know what I'm saying, too much?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
James Cook? And what happened in the third quarter? They
come out and they go cooking out and like all
the way down the field bro seventy three touchdown halftime adjustments, Hey, halftime,
They halftime and right after game adjustments is good. They
just came out like, I don't know, maybe something happens
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later on throughout. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I don't they can't they get uncharacteristic. Yeah, and then
you know, I believe in the defense. The next possession
against Atlanta, they sat dude on the first down for
thirteen yards, putting them behind the sticks. They couldn't they
couldn't catch back up, had to pump the rock yep.
Buffalo then go for it on fourth and two and
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don't get it with the.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Pass with the then the Josh Allen with the underhand
flip jont mm hmm. That came up a little short, yo.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
He could have he could have overhead, he could have
a gate, could have got it. Tour. I think he
was scared dude was up only and he ain't want
to look back to see so he just he just.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Tried to do the quick. Yeah, the quick get it
out to him. You know what I'm saying. That ain't work.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, that ain't work at all. And in Atlanta they
get down there, they trying to capitalize, but again another
field goal block, bro, Like these dudes, what was raining
there too? I can understand that they did get a
new ball in though I don't know little head over there,
(23:32):
a little hell over there. They but the defense they
blocked the field goal.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, I give it to him.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't know why I be wanted because you know
how hard it is to block the field goal, Like
it's it's extremely hard to block a field goal. Bro.
I love like to get that push and and and
get the hands up and make sure like and hopefully
the you know, the dude kicks the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's not as you know, his trajectory is not.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
As high as it you know, it may need to
be like like that's hard.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Anyway, they ended up trading.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I believe it was two three and outs Atlanta again with.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Six minutes forty three seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Dude, they go fourteen play sixty eight yards, they hold
it for five minutes and they score field goal, putting
them up ten like that. That hurt him, Yeah, that
hurt him. And even you know later that later that
drive Josh Allen, he ends.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Up on that kind of thing team, Yes, because they
were trying to drive down there, get down He was
trying to make sure they tried to score like he
wanted to score. Then they would have the on side kick,
on side kick and see where they can go, See
they can go from there.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So it was down there over once they got that
last that last when when twenty four or fourteen, Yeah,
when they took up that five minutes, like it's over with,
like you need ten points, like you need a you
need to score, and then you still gotta get an
onside kick. Has anybody recovered an on side kick this year?
Shit after I know of Yeah, I don't, I don't.
(25:02):
I don't think so, man, Like you gotta say I'm
about to kick it on side and then you gotta
go and you don't even get the run. It's starting
no more. You know, getting on side kick, man, you
gotta you gotta do something. You gotta do something crazy
to get on side kick man.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
No, the onside case, it was already hard to do.
You gotta you gotta get the perfect bounce. You gotta
hopefully get that thing where it bounces over the dude
that's back there by the second dude's head. So it's
a lot of a lot of things, and now you
can't take off like you said, you like basically, yeah,
they making.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It too hard to get the on side kicks.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Atlanta balled out though, Dude, they started early before you
knew it. It was already you know, twenty one to
seven half time, like they just dominated in the run game.
It was I mean Buffalo's defense, I mean they I
didn't expect.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Them to do that well. And in the run game.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You know, even though Buffalo's defense, like I said, it's
ranked thirtieth, but Dejon finished nineteen for one seventy rushing
in the tudy and he still had sixty eight receiving.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Bro, Like, that's your boy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
London, Yes, yes, yes, and damn their two tudies it
only got white like Atlanta. Bro.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It kind of it kind of shocked me because I'm
always expecting Buffalo with Josh Allen, and I don't know
that the defense isn't doing too well. But with Josh Allen,
I'm always expecting them to be able to score points,
be able to keep it close. I don't really wasn't
expecting too much from Atlanta. I haven't really seen too
much to.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Be you think Buffalo might have been overlooking him.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They could have been.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
But at the same time, I mean, yeah, that's not
I'm not going to take away from what they did
on the field. Atlanta had to do those things. They
had to go ball, they had to go make those plays.
Pennix wasn't just throwing on routes on air. People were
out there and they were making the catches, they were
making the plays.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Jon was a man.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think he was just showing people have really may
not be able to watch his games, but now you can.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Really see how good he actually is. In nineteen for
one seventy that's special, you know what I'm saying. Catching
the ball on the back there, being able to turn
it up, that's special.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah. So they were and then.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Terrell like a couple of their dbat the cornerback TJ.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Terrell.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Terrell, he's a baller and I've seen him making a
couple of plays on those third down stops. So I
mean it was just a good overall effort from them,
but I always I just expected a little bit more
from from Buffalo. Yeah, I think I think Panics did
a good job. He was almost two hundred and fifty
or maybe a little over two hundred and fifty yards.
(27:44):
Big thing though he had no turnovers, Like that's the
big thing. Even though it was a couple of balls
that was you know, that was in hands that they
could have got got a hold of and took the
other way.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
But you know, if it was the fifth we all
be drunk too. But no harm.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
You know what I'm saying. I think they need big
thing they need to improve, you know, on their on
their second half.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Sustain the momentum from the first half.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Bro, Like I said, you put put your foot on
their throat and choke them out, like, choke them out.
Try not to get your kick blocked too. But that
that's that's that's a given. But limit the big plays
that you know, Alan got some big chunk plays here
and there that allowed them to get down the field
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and be.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
In position to score or score an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So I think I think that's what they really need
to to focus on.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I think it was a lot too with the buff
With the Buffalo, you can't, like end of the day,
no matter how they you can't lose the turnover battle
like that.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You can't josh out even with those plays with the
handing the ball off with the like the third downs,
the short the short plays the fourth and two's the
knock averting on those, that's that, that's them.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's a turn over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
On the third and one, they're trying to run the
jet sweep, fumbling the handoffs, having a punt on that
when you could really sustain the drive like those are
drive killers. And then when you turn the ball over
with picks, that's just not winning football.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And then with them you just keep that. That's that's
how the Falcons are playing well, running the ball well,
converting bjon, being able to control the clock. You're not
being able to have that many possessions, and if you're
wasting them on turnovers, you're not gonna get the ball
that many times to give you a chance to win
the game.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So I think it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Was a tough game for the Bills because you can't
lose a turnover battle.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And then at the same time Atlanta they're not turning
it over, they're toting it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
They're converting. You know what I'm saying, it's scoring. So
I mean it was there was.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Good some pressure on aland now mh for sure, I
don't get at twisted either just straight rushing or they
were you know, blitzing coming with five like they were.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know, they were doing they were doing what they
needed to do.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Understand that, you know, Josh was missing, you know, a
receiver to a few weapons. But you know that's part
of the game. You got to be able to, you know,
go down there and figure it out and figure out
what you need to do to get some get some
quality that's close to what you know, what that person was,
or at least get to get somewhere close to the
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abilities to you know, still do the things that they
could do to some you know, to some extent. They
need to sustain drives. It was you know, too many penalties.
I think they had eight penalties or something like that.
They have to find a way to improve.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Their run defense.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
If they don't do something with that, it is hard
road to hold and you cannot stop the run because
now you've got to put more people up there to
try and stop it, and now the play action is
going to destroy you. They lucky them boys were sitting
in the gun because the play action is real fast.
Then you get a team that's running that rock on you,
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and they coming from under the quarterback and they getting
that good play action where you're sitting there, you ain't.
You're looking at a blind hand because you lost vision
of the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You know what I'm saying. The tackles.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know what I'm saying, bro, I know exactly what
you talk about.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You start getting oh, where's the ball? I don't know. Bomb.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Now you see that the lineman ain't coming at you,
So now you just start trying to dig out of
there for your life, hoping you're going in the right direction.
Well you're going in the right direction of your coverage,
but you don't know if the person is going to
be there. You know for sure you could have maybe
affected something that was closer.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't Uh, I don't know, man.
I think.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think Buffalo just just looks very beautiful now to me, dude,
I feel like I feel like we might you know,
I feel like we might be up there in the
top two or three in the in the in the
AFC period, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
just how I feel.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, I feel the same way you feel with that,
like defense looking good, getting better offense, He's starting to
get all the weapons. I mean, we got Washington, we
got DK coming into his own, we got the real
running game now with Warren. Is it a two headed
monster in game? Well too with warning game? Well, just
(32:31):
both total and the rock like that. I don't know,
I'm just asking you, is that what you're saying that?
I mean, I'm not still just look good? Yeah, man,
you know I don't want to get started too early.
I'm just I'm just going to focus on what we
gotta get to first, and that's just the North.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know. Oh does that do y'all play? Do we
play the Bengals this week? Is? I mean, listen, I'm
asking you fucking debo. Okay, okay, I'm hoping it's me
played the band. I'm gonna give you the we since
you defected yesterday. He was in the locker room. We
(33:07):
was in the locker room together. We we we So
we played the Bangles on Thursday. Speaking of player of
the Bengals. Uh my t opening question the Browns uh
decision making for their general manager Andrew Berry on trading
Flacco to the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Listen to this, you know, to be honest, it was
shocking to me.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
But that's just my personal feelings. What's sah?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
What you what? You?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
What?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
You? What you take from that? Bro?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Hey, bro, I love coach t I because you know
what I take from it. I'm like he said, we
must be a lot smarter than us. He basically at
the end of the day, he wanted to play Browning
over the Flacco. I would say, if I was coach
T and if he is the starting quarterback for your team,
(34:17):
why would you help a division opponent in any type
of way that we see is linking oil? You know
what I'm saying, Like, trade him somewhere, but don't trade
him there because now we got a plan.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
We gotta go against them people.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I ain't nowhere.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's gonna be close to my division. If I can't
trade him away, he gonna sit there. I might even
move him to three if that's how bad you feel
about it. I am not gonna give him to somebody
that I gotta play again and have an opportunity to
beat me with the guy that I said, you.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Getting traded over here because you can't do nothing for us.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Maybe you could do something over there, but I really
don't think you could do nothing over there. That's why
I traded you to my division opponent. That's really what
Mike is saying. I don't see it. I don't understand it.
He's smarter than me. Really, what he's saying is I
don't see it. I don't understand he's a dumb ass.
That's what he wanted to say, what he wanted to say.
But dang, what he said, I can say that's what
(35:17):
he wanted to say. I'm just interpreing to what I
felt was said in between. That's the words that weren't said.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Because when when somebody said, when somebody pops off and
saying he must be a lot smarter than me, that
he's fucking dumber than me, like.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Hey, hey, hey, your son, your son, Hey, oh, I
guess you. I guess you donna have more experience than me,
you know, more than I do. Oh, I guess you
no more to pops, don't you? Oh mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So like, I know he's being cybect sarcastic with it,
but at the same time going against the what you
call it?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
What you call it?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
What sarcastic?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
What was the word before that? What was what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I thought you said cyber. I'm like, what that need? No,
no sarcastic. I'm like, what's that one?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
No, no, no sarcastic. Because now I think Coach T
is taking I think Coach is saying something for real though, Bro,
you know what he's saying. He don't believe like you're
not supposed to do that, like and especially he started
for us, he started for the Browns, Like you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yo, you know what?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That might make sense why he ain't released me early
in the season when I was asking for my last year.
Then no, bro, no, he's not.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
No, no, no, no, what.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You gonna have you go there and try to bust
up the quarterback for this? No, You're gonna sit right
here be mad I'm not You're not gonna go over there.
You're't going nowhere. No, no, sit right here for a bit.
I almost got a chance though. If they had won
that playoff game, we would have seen them in New
England though. Oh my see, I know I lied to you.
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I'd have been forming at them off like a rabbit
all got. Really that's like, and that's why, and that's
why coach know not to do it, because you look
at you look at that honestly know they don't want
none of that smoke, the vote, that additional bullet bullet,
bulletin board material.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
No he no, no, no question man. Aaron Rodgers had
something to say about the Actorstu Field.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Man. He said, it is borderline unplayable. Bro. What you
think of actual field, dude, Well, I think it was
the actature when you play it was it.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Heines Field, it was Haines. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
What do you think of the field period? It's still
cared for about the same crew. I'm assuming they don't
change cruise.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I mean, it definitely wasn't the worst, but it definitely
wasn't the best. I liked that it was grass at least,
but I think during the beginning of the season, it'd
be better than at the end of the season, maybe
other events and all the stuff that they got, pit
playing on it and everybody that uses the field. It
kind of gets a little wre down. But at the
beginning of the season wasn't mad at all. But when
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you play there towards the end, you can tell it's
been a lot of way to tear.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
So they can definitely do. The main thing is keeping
that field right. They could do more of trying to
keep people off of it, you know what I'm saying,
as much as possible, But if not, I mean just
maintenance in it.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I don't know how they could possibly do. But the
Browns Field, I know that joint was maintenance. This one,
I would say this I during the small seasons.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, I'm with you. It's multiple use. It's multiple uses
for it, Like I believe, I don't even know if
it's the time, but I think sometimes they may even
have like concerts in there or something or some type
of show in there. But the big thing is, like
you got you got two different teams playing on the surface,
and right now it ain't even bad, Aaron, you ain't
seen it bad yet. Wait till the playoffs. For the
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high school start. High school teams are playing in there,
and they may or may not be able to get
the field back right. Like grass don't just grow overnight,
you know what I'm saying, real natural grass like it
don't it don't just grow overnight. And to spend the money,
spend the money to reside it, you still need a
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few days for it to you know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Take that.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
When we played, and I think it was two thousand
and seven, it was rain and rain and raining, and
I think uh Pitt had played before that or something,
and so they tried to do a swapover of the
field and they put the new turf over the old
turf because I guess it was like so wet, dude,
and it just the ball like it's places where you
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can see we're playing Miami.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I think PZ had just went there in two thousand
and seven.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And my foot slides down into the dirt like up
to like over the top of my ankle. Dude, it's
like quarterway up my shin. See that's that's not okay,
oh dude, Like he ain't, he ain't. You've seen nothing yet.
What they're doing now is you know, the sand dirt,
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all that they just filling in the divots, sprinkling it
down with some water and throw some throw some grass seed.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
But you know, it's only been what a week.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
In between the last game that was on there, maybe
two at the most. It needs more time than that.
And then before that, I think Pitt was on it
every weekend for two weeks straight. I think they may
actually use it on Friday and Saturday when they play Saturdays.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
That's that's that's not going that's not going to keep you.
Like you said, it's natural grass. It takes more than
a day to grow back. And if you got other
people using it and breaking it down, like you said,
I didn't know high school games on it. I just
do it was pit and probably like some concerts and stuff.
But the more that you use that.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Feeling in the playoffs, dude, they have they have a
lot of games there.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, Yeah, that's gonna break it up. That's gonna happen. No,
the main you gotta keep the main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, your boy has them. Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
They got a new deal going with brook Park. They
moving to brook Park, Yes they are?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
You like it over there? Is it a good area?
What's going down? What's better. Which one would you like to?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
What you prefer?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
The Browns fans probably want it downtown in the city
in Cleveland, like around downtown where the Basketball Stadium is
and where the Indians.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I mean, where the Guardian Stadium is. Everybody likes downtown
because that's where it's always been.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I know, the Haslms.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
They're gonna make it look amazing. They're gonna build it
in brook Park.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
They're gonna build like a whole hotels and restaurants and
all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's gonna look where it's brook Park in comparison to downtown.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
It's probably twenty minutes away. It's like right by the airport.
Oh it ain't that far.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Oh no, it's not far at all.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's twenty minutes away from where it's at right now,
literally twenty minutes down the street.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
And they're gonna make a whole. They're gonna make it
look amazing. I think the city's just a little upset
because they want it downtown. They want to keep Cleveland
and everything like kind of down there. I know for
one thing, whatever it has them going to do, they're
gonna make it look beautiful and they're going to be
able to make all the money from the.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Stuff like the parking and all that.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
They're not being able to get that when they have
the stadium downtown right now, That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So when they come.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Build their stuff, I think they're gonna be able to
make a whole lot of money and it's going to
be beautiful for Cleveland. There's nothing really down there, so
I think it's gonna make Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
If it ain't nothing down there where you gonna go to,
you know where the fans go to when they.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Do they building it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I'm telling he building a whole but it's a stadium
with a whole little city. Oh the brown did the
passms are going to They're not doing it like baby.
They about to spend some dough and this joint's going
to look crazy. But it's just moving it from downtown
to another location. That's what Cleveland's worried about. I know
it's gonna look vicious. So when they go and it's
probably gonna have a dome, so then they're able to
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get like if.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
The super Bowl, you can't host the super Bowl if
you have a dome. You know what I'm saying. So
certain things they can do concert Venards.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
It's gonna be a dome. I think it's gonna be
a dome too. Yeah, it's a dome.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Now they get a super Bow. I ain't got worry
about the weather stopping. I ain't got to worry about
none of that. We ever got a super Bowl in Pittsburgh,
I don't think so. I don't think because I don't
I think you got to have a dome or something
like that. Brother, mm hmm, Yeah, we ain't gonna never
have one in Pittsburgh. Ain't about getting no don But
it ain't going like that. They ain't never about to
(43:19):
get no dom. Man. That's why Cleveland man ain't.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Man. Cleveland ain't think we was ever gonna get no dome.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
So it's a dome. Wer it's not a dome. You
said you think it's a dome. You don't know if
it's done. I think it's a dome for sure. You
think it's a dome for sure? That not a what Hey,
I'm a I'm one hundred percent right all the time
most of the time.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
See you said to.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Me, I know, I just I just said some bullshit
de bo, I just bullshit, man, I did you caught
me on it?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Good too, Branch for firing off on Juju.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I really just said that.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
What you say, no, my bad?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Go ahead, brother, I said, I really just said some bullshit.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
So the NFL this suspended Branch for firing off on Juju.
It's gonna cost him seventy six thousand, six twenty four.
Branch is planning to a pillock. But the Vice President
of Football Operations, John Runyon said on the penalty, your
aggressive non football play Act was entirely unwarranted, posted a
(44:35):
risk of injury, and clearly violated the standards of conduct
and sportsmanship expected of NFL players. Your conduct reflected poorly
on the NFL and has no place in our game.
Brent said, I did a little childish thing, but I'm
tired of people doing stuff in between plays and.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Refs don't catch it.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
They trying to bully me out there, and I I
shouldn't have did it. It was childish.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Hey listen, I'm gonna tell you this right now. Go ahead,
pop off, Debo. Look at this picture, Joe, can you
please put the picture? Look at this picture, Joe.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
See the picture, Joe, Man, I want you to look
at Juju's left ear. This man is dragging him around
by his ear. Here, Bro, that's that looks that's so disrespectful.
Punch me in the face. Bro, that's how my mama
do well. Not my mama, other mamas do my mama.
Go beat the dog ship out. Okay, you gonna drive me.
(45:40):
You see his face?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
He getting drugged by the juju? What's going on? Bruh.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You can't get you can't have this on national everything.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You get drugged by your ear?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
What you should have did instead of after he hit
you and you did the fake fall back, you should
have just fired back right then and there. No what
what's your what's your take on it? What do you
think or how would you have responded? I would have
got down here with your ear getting grad You know
(46:13):
you got big ears too, bro. He might messed around
and ripped that off. See debo. There you go, shut
your assoup my ears.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
So look this is this is this was popping debo.
I would have definitely had to fire back off on
branch if he popped me right in.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
My head after the game.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Natural reaction would have been boom boom. That's just natural
reaction because at the same time were the.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Same you coming over here like boom and then but
this is my part. I think Juju, did you you
know when he hit him in the back, not hit
him in the back, but kind of like cracked back
on him that he was feeling some type of wall.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
He popped him. He popped him in the game. But
that was he popped him in the game, and that
and that and that's what and that's what My other
part is with Branch, it's not right to come in
steal off on.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Somebody after the game.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
When you said people be doing stuff all in between
the wristlers.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
The ref don't call it.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I'm like you in the game too, catch him you
hand slipping, and then you gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
And then there's no seventy eight thousand dollars five.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
You're not having to like literally fight somebody after the
game is over. Now it's time, like people go into
the locker room shaking hands, like you had so much
time doing the game to pop off on Juju or
like just catch them.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
If you saying they got.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Three hours, you got three hours to go ahead, try
and steal on him one good time legally in between
the lines. And we on defense too, so you you
see him brand you could, you could just one time,
you know what, there's a tackle play going over there. File,
ma'ma just file on Juju. It's in the play like
you might not even get a flag, you know what
I'm saying. It was just me just be close to it,
(47:46):
just be around it, but close to it, and make
sure he close to it and go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
And I just ain't I just ain't like him stealing
off on my man after the game is over.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
That's just my whole part. And then obviously.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Juju got retaliated, like you you could just fire back
after the game.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
He tried to pull the little the fake jont the bluff.
I'm like, oh, it's a fight though now, but the
game's over. Games over, Like it's a real fight now.
He's right there. Unless somebody's like when they still they
hold me back, hold me back. I'm like, nobody's holding
back right now. Everybody's here, chick. Something can really go
down right now. And it got and it got and
it started getting to it. So that was unfortunate that
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my man I got on the ground and started pulling
my mask's ear He's dragging me by his ear bro
because he flewed his head his face mask and then
ripped him by the face and his face mask and
then start dragging me by his ears.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
I don't condone. I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I don't condone this sort of violence. No, I condone
it at all, neither I know and I know you don't. Also,
i'd that it was just crazy how he popped off
of him. I don't condone that kind of violence, yeah,
because I always go say any kind but I condone
some kind of Yeah, there's some type of viol branches apology, man,
I ain't no apology.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
You can't say did the childish thing and then go
with the excuse me the butt the butt when you
say sorry. But that's like me, Hey Joe, man, I'm
sorry for hitting you in your face, but you know
you shouldn't have said what you said no no, no
no after that. But that kills everything that you said
(49:24):
before it. You can't do the butt. He did a butt.
But I'm tired of people doing stuff between the player
and the rest catch it.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
They be trying to bully me, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
With child dude.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
I'm not yet. I can't. No, they was finding me
for plays on the field. And I was losing it.
I got suspended, dude, like for for for a play
on the field, Like I'm not I'm not trying to
lose no game, you know what, pasy that was my
first start, man, Oh yeah, we start I ever got
(49:59):
was peace he fighting dude at the brows. Yeah, I
agree before the game, dude, that was my first start.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I got, dude, Hey.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
And the thing was he split up. I totally forgot that, bro.
He spit on psy or yes, yes that's what that's
what ended up. How you can find the tape like
you can see it, like he look like that right there. Yeah,
(50:34):
he got he got suspended, well just for that game.
He lost the game check. Of course, you lose it,
you lose a game check. I don't even know if
he lost the game check though. I think they might
have just kicked him out the game, to be honest
with you, I don't even think. I don't even think
they got fine for that.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
You know, in the g they're like, man, go to
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Man for two thousand five something like that symptom. Yeah
that was dam.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Good old time, yeah for sure, for sure, yo.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Speaking of good old time, man, the Eagles like my
dude said it was time he retired mid season Smith
after the loss to the Giants he retired. So yeah, dude,
that sang Bro, I was, I like that gotta be
(51:25):
like just looking at looking at the statement, like it
gotta be something like like real, like like personal going on.
I don't know too many people that just without some
other issues or or or something going on, you know,
personally that just you know, retires in the middle, you know, for.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
The season, like you know what, the people I think
dudes now are starting to just you know, I think
he probably was thinking.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
About it for a little.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Bit and then once you get into the season, things
start starting not really rocking the way you kind of want.
The two And I know today he's made he been
a leaf for a while kind of o g made
a little bit of made some bread. You know, it
could just be, Man, I don't feel like doing this
no more. You know what I'm saying. I don't know, Man,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I can't. I can't do that. That's I guess that's
just me me personally. Because when I came back to
the Stellers in twenty fourteen, Bro and we were playing uh,
we were about to play Tampa and so they signed
me back up and I'm out there and the first
practice it was I believe it was that Wednesday, right,
(52:36):
and you know that's full past.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
So you know, we go, we do the path thing.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
That next day, Bro, I was like, yeah, I can't
believe I signed.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
My body was hurting me. Bro, I was so hurt, dude,
Like I'm sitting there like, you know what, I don't know,
I really want to do this, like I know I did,
Like I'm doing it only because like my brother's the
guys that I've been there with, you know for ten
plus year. It's Troy, It's it's Keyesel. I'm like, you
(53:12):
know what my kids say, Yes I can. So I
came back and now I'm sitting there, I'm like, yo,
I can't. I don't even know if like I might
have to Dude, I can't come in for practice. The
next my body just did not it, dude. It took
it took a good probably good three four days for
my body to get back right. And then we had
(53:33):
a game. So we planned playing against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
So Bruh. Into the game, They're like, yeah, we go.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Use you sparingly, you know, you know, maybe fifteen or
so snaps, I'm like, all right, cool, I could work
my way back into it. Man. Forty three snaps later, bro,
I'm like, oh my god, see a fresh off dude,
fresh off the fresh off the street bro off retired.
I mean I was only retire for like fourteen fifteen days,
two weeks something like that, but like I'm like, yo,
(54:03):
I haven't went through you know, training and none of that.
Like it was like I'm like, nah, this is not yeah,
this is not this is not me. And the only
I ain't even like to you, dude. The only thing
that stopped me was like I was like, you know
what my daddy said, you start something, you finished, and
(54:23):
that's the only thing that kept me going. Brou I felt,
you know, I went back into the emotions of being
getting used to it, like liking playing again, falling back
in love with the game. So I ended up signing it,
you know, a couple more years after that. But dude,
I just I don't know if I could I could
(54:44):
do that, and just like, yeah, I know, you know
I was supposed to do this or do that, unless,
like I said, you're dealing with something real personal.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
You know that you you need to remove yourself from it.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
You know, yeah, it could. It could.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
It could.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Like like you said to you, you never know what people
are going through. It could be family, it could be that.
But at the same time, if you don't want to
be there, that's a place you don't need to be.
You can't play football NFL professional football. So if you're
kind of like your heart's not in it, you're not
trying to be there.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Listen, listen. My heart was in it. My body wasn't
cooperating with My heart was saying my body you.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
You you're a good man.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
And the pain in my low back bruh, like it was,
it was not It was not good. I'm sitting there
and it was we're playing the game, right and I
go to jump over the dude, And as I go
to jump over the dude, like my feet get hit
and I land on my back. Right man, You know,
I don't jump that high like I already had. You know,
(55:50):
I had a couple of back surgery, so I ain't
jumping that high.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Man.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
I couldn't have been no higher than like this off
the ground. But I landed on my back. Bro I
think I told you this. Man, I look at Mike
t he looked at me, and then after the game
he was like, yeah I saw it, and yeah I
saw it on your face.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
He was about to make a business decision thinking about
giving it. I was like, yeah, like that it dude,
it hurts so bad.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I was like, oh my god, I didn't believe Grask
the fielders.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Was the worst thing ever.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Thursday, We're go going out here, pop on them Bungos,
I mean, Bengals, my bracest. Keep keep messing me, messing
up my words. But mess up when you want them
to mess up. But before before we do that, Oh
it mess up when I wanted to mess out. Okay, before,
(56:41):
but before we do that. That's the start of the
new week. Who is your week? Seek defensive playout of
the week? Man?
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Who you going with?
Speaker 3 (56:53):
We're gonna go with the new coming of von Miller,
the defensive end for the Broncos fifteen?
Speaker 1 (57:02):
What do you get?
Speaker 2 (57:04):
What do you get?
Speaker 1 (57:04):
What he got?
Speaker 3 (57:05):
All I know is I think he had two sacks,
two sacks, two sacks. He balled out and I just
liked him because they I was happy that the Broncos
they used their picks that they got for to get him,
and he's just been having a great year.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Man, I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
go with a.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
I'm gonna go with Devin White, linebacker for the for Vegas. Man.
Dude had nine tackles, one sack, one forst form one
and interception.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
Oh man, yeah, Devin White, he used to be with
a Tampa. Yeah, it's my good man. Let's go team George.
He's a Jordan Brand athlete?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Is he a Speaking of Jordan Brand, let's get back
to that.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
I don't know if y'all notice Joe supposed give me
some Jordans. Oh shucks. I kept going forgetting what what?
And you say, hold on for fourteen? You keep forgetting
every time I tell you about it. But I ain't
gonna say nothing. But I'm really looking for some of them.
You know what is they that? I don't even know
(58:12):
what that is. It's some of the Dans out there.
But anyway, you didn't even matter. I said, I just
want some and man, this one this time, Debo, I
promise you, I gotta go talk to Jordans. Nope, you
don't even gotta talk to him. I got you go
directly to the source. You know what I'm saying? Like Size,
(58:33):
I thought you were the source. You know I could
be wrong. All right, Look who I thought you was.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
I thought you were tap into me offline, tap into
me offline.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Okay, I was just checking. Man, I thought you was that.
You know that, you know that person? I got you
said it anyway, Man, Look, we got to the end here, man,
So what we're gonna do here is uh, what's that
right there? We gotta what we got there? Super Chat? Okay,
(59:05):
what are the super Chat talking about?
Speaker 1 (59:08):
I can't where is that?
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Little little is that?
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Little? David Six's one said? Whatever, whatever we hurt Jaylen Daniels,
the rest made made up for it. BS call in Chicago.
What the hell is he talking about?
Speaker 1 (59:33):
All right?
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Man, whatever, I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, thank yeah, yeah,
thanks for watching. Hey listen, we want to thank y'all
for joining us yes on this episode, The Debo and
Joe on every episode The Debo and Joe, Like, we
really appreciate y'all. We need y'all here. But when you
write something that I can't reaffluently, that's what you get.
(59:56):
You need to put some punctuation in it. Hey, make
sure you like and some subscribe Joe Yo, make sure
you like a subscribe. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
We're gonna be back here on Friday to talk about
how our stellers whooped the Bengals and so yeah, we're
gonna have detailed messages about that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Let's get to it r R and we and we
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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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