December 9, 2025 • 58 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football, where Jalen Hurts threw a game-sealing interception as the Philadelphia Eagles fall to Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers. Later, Deebo & Joe react to reports that the Indianapolis Colts will work out 44 year old Phillip Rivers, and much more new from Week 14 of the 2025 NFL Season!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Devo and Joe. I'm your host, James
Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden.
Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing today. How you're doing the day.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Joe doing great, Devo lovely, lovely Tuesday, my brother always
good time a head with you, my guy.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yes, sir, yes, sir man. That was a That was
a game yesterday, wasn't it though? Devo super excited, Yo,
out of control exciting. I ain't. I ain't never thought
I would be that excited about a game that had
that many turnovers.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I was winding the game and I'm like this, baby,
you gotta see this, you gotta see this stuff like
it was just super exciting, Bri.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I had a blast watching it, though. Yeah, man, I
want to go through this detail. Man. You go to
get out there. In the very first play, they go
deep to aj Man and it was just off his fingertips,
man and completed that they could have connected.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That that played the game long foutahol. That was that
would have been That would have been huge, That would
have been huge for him.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
They go back second down, think Sa Kuan got two,
and then third and nine, Hurts hits, Uh what does
it got her? Yeah, he hits got her for nine
right there. First down they handed to sa Quan again.
I think he gets like three in a short one
of Dotson for three and then third down and full
(01:25):
Hurts gets sacked. More of a cover sack than anything else.
He had to work his way up out of it.
Covers in sack, working to guy, covers in rushworking cover.
For sure, they end up punting the ball chargers get
out there. Vid All hits the first one for three
(01:45):
second one. I believe it was an incompletion. He just
he just looked like he dropped that one dead. And
then third and seven, Herbert dumps it to Vdel and
that boy goes sixty yards to the seventeen of Philly. Dude,
I don't that was a huge play. I didn't think
(02:09):
it was gonna get caught. And then the linebacker started
running it down though, I.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Was like, man monkey jumped on Vidal bag El boy
started running underwater, his legs start getting heavy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They get the rook back he went and he went
and ran one forbout eleven on the next play, and
I think it was maybe two after that, and on
the third down Herbert he finished it off to to
Hampton for a four yard touchdown seven zero. That seemed
like it was very easy for them to get down.
(02:43):
I kind of thought the game was gonna be higher
scoring than that after that first drive, to be honest
with you, rather go for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I mean, especially the way the Chargers they walked it
down at you know what, walked down super easy. I'm
hoping that the Eagle was gonna play a little bit
better defense, but uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It was. It was a lot more to come. Yeah,
it was a whole lot more to come. Eagles. Get
back out there, say kwan, he gone ahead, get him
my hot nineteen. Then turn right back around, get get
ten back to back. First out whoever ninety nine was,
he was getting moved around last night, dude. I seen
one player he got like double hooked, dude, like he
(03:19):
got double reached for the charges. Yeah he was, he was.
He was on the he was on the center and
got reached by the guard like he was. He was.
They put him two gaps behind.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, no, that's that ain't gonna get it done. They
don't get the job done.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
De box, No, No, they get a holding, it turns
it into second and twenty, say, Kawi, he picks up
about eight of that. Then third and twelve they convert
Hurts hist it in Dallas again, dude, another it was
a thirteen on that one. Yep. Then they ended up
trying to do like a run. Why would they try
(03:58):
and run that with him? Then? I am no, I
don't know. They sometimes they play call him with just
a little. That's why they in this house, man, That's
why they aging it. I'm just trying to tell you
that why they they need to don't hey, I'm just
telling you they keep calling that. You keep you keep
doing like that. That might be you know, hey, Hurst
(04:20):
so fat third down man Smith, I think he only
got like a yard. They just closed in on him
so fast, dude, them boys just breaking down to him.
Ended up having to settle for a field goal. It's
three to seven. Then Chargers get back out there. The
first play, I don't know how Herbert he shook a
(04:41):
sack man he dumped it to Hampton again. I think
he got seven on that one, and then second he
got dropped. I think they dropped the uh him in
the backfield. Yeah, they dropped him for four dude, Davis,
he was an issue for them. He was a man
in there. Broh yeah on that run game, yeah, man, definitely.
(05:02):
Then the Chargers ended up false starting. I think that
kicked him to like third and twelve or something, and
then they get the interception. I think it was but
because if they was off side Herbert, you know, he
already knew he had a free play, yep, so he
just threw it down there. I think the next play
he eluded like another sack, but it was incomplete. He
(05:25):
just threw He just threw it away. They end up
punting the ball again. Yo. They was I don't know
how long this dude go last behind that offensive line.
Bro Oh my goodness, bro he is a surgery a month.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
A week, a week ago, seven days, and he's still
getting beat up. I was feeling like it still didn't
get to the point he was getting hit running a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But as the game started progressing, you saw like the
hit more and more, more and more.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He started handing it off with the wrong damn hand.
I'm like, yeah, because he got to that joint.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He had a little pain for a minute. He had
he had to switch hands on there was get back
out there, and I think it was a pyramid. Ended
up dropping Sa Kwan for a loss on the first play,
And that's deep. But that's the thing I was saying too.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
A lot of the things when Sakuan was running, he
was either getting into the secondary or they were hitting
him before he could get going, hitting him in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It was one one, Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't really
that much in between. Yeah. I think it was a
second down Hurts hit. Was it a smith of six?
Third down? He ended up throwing it high. It was intercepted,
but on review they saw the ball hit. They got
lucky on that one because what was that That would
(06:38):
have been well five, that'd have been five picks. Yeah. Yeah,
So they end they went the ball and then the
rook get back out there on the first down. I
think he took it for like fifteen Yeah, but it
don't man. The next play they ended up getting a
holding penalty. I think Herbert scramble was for about five.
(06:59):
Next two plays was just incompletely. They punted the rock away. Yeah, yeah,
they punted the rock away. Eagles get the ball back
the first first run again dropped for a loss. Yeah,
they dropped him for a loss again, and then second
down they had an illegal contact untry that gave him
a first up and then previous and then the proceedings
(07:23):
second down he hit He hit Dallas again for sixteen
to get another first down. I think it was second
to seven eight something like that. They're picking up sixteen
there and then Hurts hits that man for twenty J
Brown AJ Brown for twenty two. I believe they get
to like the third down it was, and they get
(07:46):
to the third and two. Yeah, go ahead, third and two,
and in the.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Wildest play I've ever seen ever my life happens because
I figured out I started realizing how many stats happened
in that play.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, it's a pick. It's an assess not to fumble recovery.
Let me tell you this right now. As soon as
dude caught that ball and he started to run, I
was like, he's about to fumble. He started running like
I didn't even know how to hold on to it. Bro, Like,
what are you doing? I'm like, he ain't even putting
it away. He holding it straight up and down like
(08:18):
a loaf of bread. Man. He looked back, got that
punch directly out punched directly out and then got slung
to the ground. Hurts, go ahead, he picks it up.
I'm like, oh man, they done got lucky. They done
got it back. Give me that. Expect him to fumble.
He fumbles, So.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, my man, Hurts got a fumble, he got a pick,
he got a pick, a fumble recovery and a fumble.
He got to pick a fumble, recovery and a fumble
in the same plays the first time in history.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And then my man went and I love the way
they fell on the ball, not having.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
His feet out of bounds, looking crazy, not rushing, he
felt right on that ball, drop right on right and bounds.
I'm like this, thank you. Way to be professional, not panic,
have your legs off, your feet out of bounds, and
you laying it on the ball. I'm like, what are
they doing? So good job by him falling on the
ball and not looking crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, Chargers get the ball back. I think v d
All went a hot eight on the first one. Then
third down herbig hits hairs for like eighteen across the
body pressure. He's moving around and he's making these throws. Man, yes,
bro like with the hand jacked and all that, like dude. Yeah,
(09:32):
they got some protection, do you, Yes, he could do.
I think some of the I think the linemen are
hurt too. But he's back there getting smacked. You gotta
protect your investment. He's not soft. He's out there fighting
for his life. So you're right. If they protect them, man,
it'll be good. Yes. Yes, they handed to v Doll again.
He got six on the first down. They get the
(09:54):
third down and they sack herb. They end up having
to settle for the field goal. This is ten to seven, now,
ten to three. Ten yeah, ten to three, okay, on
ten to three now, dude, the Eagles get back out there.
The second play, Hurts is intercepted again. Yes, brother, that's
(10:16):
just great corner play. Dice concept. Little slip, little slip,
little little slip, but great play. Great. He knew it
was dice. He saw that, he saw that tight end
to the flat. It's dice. It's just like a five
people on the lisce.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You got two curls, you got two people in the flat,
and you got somebody sitting over the ball. He saw
him sit and I'm like, oh my gosh, he broke
on that beautifully. Man slipped and fell, But that's just unfortunate,
great defensive play. Sorry you had to slip and fall,
but that was just that's I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
As a dB, I'm like, oh, yeah, go get your money, Yeah,
go give me, give me that, give me that. Chargers
get back out there. First play sack fumble recovered. As
much as Hampton helped him running the ball, he was
a serious live ability in past protection.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know what that was, debo, You know exactly, backs
on backers, yes, backs on backers. He saw that man,
and if you have your back, your backer on the back,
you're gonna win that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's what you do, not win. We did not win.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What kind of linebacker are you? You know what I'm saying.
They're like, no, you expected to run.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Through that man.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So that's exactly what he did. I said, Oh, people's
gonna love this back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, yes, no question. If you don't do nothing else,
you gotta at least push him into his lap. You know,
you see him through that running back. He's a backer.
Easy first down, Barkley come up out there. He get
him nine. Then second down he getting five. Yeah, they
went again, he getting thirteen again. That was the play
(11:46):
ninety nine that got double scooped on like I don't know,
Like I said, I don't know what was going on,
but he had he had a tough day. Yeah, second
and seven, Hurts to aj again. Yes, eleven, they get
to the next second down, Hurts the Dallas got it
again for eleven and it's another first down, like I
(12:10):
think they they got like maybe they got to the
next first down and it was like maybe like they
got maybe two yards or something like that. They ended
up coming away with only like a field goal because
they had a holding on the second and it was
actually I think it was a touchdown. Yeah, it was
a touchdown, and then I called back for holding. Yep,
(12:31):
Hurts bumbled the joint and from yeah that on the Jones.
They got lucky all the way through that, everybody was
getting lucky. It could have been at least four more turnovers. Yeah, yeah,
I think it ended up getting the field going on
that and right it was six to ten, six to ten, Yeah,
it's sixty ten and then Chargers get out there. It
(12:52):
ain't nothing, but like what fifty seconds left, forty seconds
left like that, trying to see I they can go
get some points before halftime, dude, and third down, he
is intercepted and it's having had his arm hit the
thing just flopped up in there, and then to add.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
To it, you know, running back. But see that, that's
that's the extra. Why are you trying to slam man?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You hear the whistle blowing, you're frustrated, but that's fifteen.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like that's the dumb stuff. I hate when people do,
like don you hear the whistle boom? I'm like, what
was that for, coach you? And now you got us
looking crazy?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That put him after I think the thirty of LA
when the Eagles got the ball back, but the field
goal kicker goes out there. They try to play. Field
goal kicker goes out there and he misses the field goal.
Halftime still six to ten year and the Chargers come
out and they work their way down the field. This
(13:53):
drive was long, long, dude. I think it was like
sixteen plays or something like that for nine minutes and
thirty seconds. Yeah, a lot of third conversion. Yeah, yeah.
Herbert scrambled I think for two of the first downs,
the longest one being the third down. I think he
went for like fifteen and then he got out of
another sack on that dude. He could they could have
(14:15):
sacked him about ten twelve times for sure, for sure,
and then they go and kick the field goal. It's good,
but dude gets a penalty for leverage. Dude, he didn't
even try and not leverage. He looked like he actually
went there to leverage. He was like, what what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like like it was like this, like the coach told
him what you need to do is go push on
his back as hard as you can see how you
could get I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
What in the world is he doing? Bro? Didn't even
go high. They ended up getting lucky. Well, defense stood
up to it, and then they got lucky. But they
get to like nine, that's bro, they dna standing up.
They end up holding them to a field goal. So
don't it. Don't it. Don't crease them too bad. It's
six to thirteen now, yes, sir, And this is when
(15:05):
Philly came out on the kickoff return they fumbled it.
They got lucky on that return that it was that way,
but to bounce if it bounced any other way. He
just was lucky, dude, very very very lucky. Dude. First
down I think hurts its aj for like twenty six.
(15:27):
Chargers end up being able to hold. They hold them
to a field goal. It's nine to thirteen now right, yep.
And the Chargers come out there and they basically go
three and out with a sack fumble. They that's the
lucky to recover. That's the one almost who really mess
his hand up. And then you know the uh the
(15:52):
second down again, you got to do that beat again
for the sack. That was the sack of like he
get Hampton was he was, he helped him running, but
that was another back on backer. Yes, he was the
serious liability in the man that's fast protection. Like it
looks like everybody liability in the past protection. They out
(16:13):
there running for his life. Uh, running for his life? Yes, yes,
to skip back out there and second down finally McConkie
getting one for twelve. Then the next second down Herbert
ends up affording another sad scrambles for seven.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Talk out we after after they got the back to
back the back some backers and they punted it to
the Eagles. That's when they got the That's when when
the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
End up scoring. Oh, you're right, they had touchdown.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
We had the fake toush push the fake to push
on thirty one, I call that the toush toss.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yes, because the time got loose on them. Oh yeah thirteen.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yes, yes, yes, I was waiting on that toussy.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes. I said, oh that was nice. Yeah. So they
go stop. Yeah, they're gonna stop holding that, you know,
putting everybody up in there. Hey, I ain't gonna lie.
It looked like he might have got away with a
little hold over there. Tool for sure he did, Hey,
for sure he did. He hold he held ma. He
was he he he had ma. He had him by
his back like. They didn't call it. So that's why
(17:27):
I didn't acknowledge it. My bad. I'm just saying I
seen it. I seen that too. I think I seen it.
I see Yeah, now the charge get back out there. Yes,
takond down Herbert Gone's head and he hits Conky, getting
my hot twelve. There we go, get involved with Conky.
I was looking on Conkey. Yeah. The next second down
Herbert a voice another sack. I think he gaged seven.
(17:47):
But the Eagle Stephens was able to do what they
need to do, hold him down, get them to punt
the rock. Yes, sir, Eagles get back out there, man,
I think it's the punter when they punted it to him.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
He almost he was bobbling it and got face mask too.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I don't know how he kept the ball. I don't
know how they didn't call that face man. I think
because they get't called another one, and it looked like
it could have been fast the same way. Crazy. That's crazy.
He got a call. Yeah, look what are y'all looking at?
He's the only person that got the ball and head
he turned that whole head.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yes, yeah, Refereez needs start getting fined. First down hurts.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I think it was Cooper for nineteen and then he
proceeds to throw another innerception. But I'm gonna say this,
that wasn't all his fault. Heck no, it wasn't. AJ
got them Gator on side. That boy come down there
and he said, I got to get my hands down
faster than I got to worry about catching this ball,
so I don't get my MiG session lit up.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Thousand percent debo as that receiver and you're making thirty
five million dollars a year. I need you to expose
yourself to that hit. You know what I'm saying it is?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
You know, maybe he was thinking if I do that,
who knows next time? Man, de bo, don't even do that. Man.
Everybody got dirty stuff to their job. Man across that
million to catch that rock, you know what I'm saying,
bomb because he can't, he can't, he can't fold it in.
That was that was a man. You gotta go ahead
get that. But that's it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
But then look, if you don't get it, it's a pig.
And now you setting your team up for failure. And
you want the rock. H you the man, I love you,
but you gotta have your quarterback feeling like this. If
I'm throwing over there, worst case scenario, if it's a
bad ball, I don't want it to be picked.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But that's okay, that's okay ball. You gotta go get
that for me. Please, all dudes, keep the hands up
a little higher. And actually, like as soon as he
went the junk to get it, he looked to see
where somebody was at and that was immediate note returning
that one thing. I think it was to the Philly
like thirty five. And then Chargers get out there and
(19:53):
I think the first play Herbert got sacked sack number six.
By then, you know, they completed maybe one more first
down and again they had to settle for a field goal.
Defense was able to do what they needed to do.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Eagles defense was answering calls and putting out forest fires
the whole game. Bro Oh, dude, he was them dudes
was hooping offense. Did not put them any good positions.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, they they helped the cause too much. I think
it just tied up sixteen sixteen now and then basically
the Eagles and the Chargers. I think they traded back
and forth three and outs. Then Philly ends up getting
it and starting at the forty after that punt return, yep,
(20:41):
and it's I think it's only like three a little
over three and a half minutes left to play. Second
down hurts his AJA again sixteen But he actually broke
that one, broke the tackle, get held on to him, yay.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And now I thought he was about the hurdle, buddy,
and stay in bounds and just get all the way
up to the sideline.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Looked like I thought he had jumped it. But when
he jumped in, I guess he jumped and slid out
a little when he jumped instead of going instead of
going in for sure. And then the next second down
hurts his AJ again. Big boys in that time, big
boy slams dude. The following second down, guess guess who
(21:23):
guess who? Oh to aj Yes had the ball. Man
that dB made a hell of five play, bro, come on.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Come on, de bo, that's that's how you. It was like,
oh he dropped it. He didn't drop it. The defensive
back ricked it, put his hand in that bucket the same.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Time and got that arm yep. So that's why he
was looking at you get that chance to actually get
it fully locked in so he could squeeze zepp in
the arm off. So now you can't catch the ball.
That was perfect. dB played perfect time and AJ Brown
knew he was like this. He knew. He was like,
that's just a great play.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I gotta have that for show. But he knocked it out,
so like great ball, great right there. But the defensive
back like, ah, that's how you make a play. That's
a pass breakup. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The competitor and the way he see himself, he wants
to be great. He gotta have that. He said it himself.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So the offenser side, yes, that was it touched both
your hands. So you feel like I need that. That's
my ball for show. As a dB, I gotta have
that pass breakup. That's real fight to the last last tex.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yes, right there. They ended up, you know, keeping him
to only a field goal. That's an extra four points
not on the board, nineteen to sixteen Chargers get back
out there, ended up getting to I think it was
third and ten. It was incomplete, but it was a
pass and I gave him a first down. That's huge,
(22:51):
bro that it would have been over. It was a rat,
it would have been over over. Then that first down
Herbert scrambles, Hey for seven. I'm gonna tell you right now,
he is not stepping out of bounds right there, that's me.
He is in bounds. Oh no, no, for she isn't
(23:13):
that right there? I would have felt like he's after
the outcome had happened, that I just lost us the game,
because that right there, you would have to be like, Nope,
you can finish next week.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, because at the end of the day, what you're saying,
my man was running out of bounds to the angle,
where like, there's no way because if he would have
hit him at the angle he was running, they were
out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But if he was coming he was he was already
out of bounds. So when he came down, his foot
would have been in bounds when he hit him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
No, No, I'm saying if he would have came at
an angle to hit him, he could have hit him
straight and busy for sure. But I'm saying he was
running out of bounds, like just someone seeing he was coming.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He was running out of here talking about good play. Nice.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, it's not you think he should have found him.
He should have just found him. What he in bounds? Dude,
you need to get out faster. Same thing with with with.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Dark, with dark, No a thousand percent. I just want
to protect that hand and everything else. He went. Yeah,
he looked out.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He just looked out because the d ran out of bounds,
like I know where you're running.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I see somebody chasing you. I could from you, but
I'm just like gonna run in front of you, out
of bounds, run in front of you, out of the dude.
Look he looked at He had a whole footing bounds
when he went past him. He could have I'm not cold,
he could have Fon next play, Videl goes what eight
(24:35):
and then third and four? Who scrambles for another first
down her mind? That shouldn't he probably even been in
the game. No broken hand, like broken hand, like you
stumming shot anything like anything that that hand would have
been tingling so bad he wouldn't have been able to
even try and throw it. Like, yeah, he got it's
(25:00):
been able to at least be there for the next
couple of plays. Take away to scramble that led to
a first down on third four, and then he gets
another nine pull, pulled it again. He started doing that leg.
Yes it's again, Eagles able to hold him. They tie
(25:20):
it up. It's nineteen nineteen. We get into overtime. Yes,
Chargers get the ball to start and now we're pulling
it again. Herb's like, well win this. I'm trying to
win this thing. Well, then Hampton go eighteen. Yes, they
(25:41):
get able to they you know, they able to stop it.
They got a great kicker over there. They get the
field goal twenty two to nineteen. Yep. I'm like, I'm
just thinking, like, yo, if that's me and we get
to the points of where Philly is at now and
we lose this game, I am never doing that again.
(26:03):
I Am never. I ain't sparing nobody. Oh I can't.
Oh you're talking about that? Yeah, you still I ain't
spirit due, I ain't spirit All these players he done
did he ain't supposed to even be in there doing them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, that would have been the finisher for Shure because
he did debo. You're exactly right when I'm looking at
the game. He could have peeled on them, but he
didn't have that. He didn't even have the intentions to
peel on him. He just wanted to. He just ran
in front of him like, oh, I could have hit you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Like just basically showing him. But like, I know what
you're saying. I did idea, like right across from mid
section bomb. He could have Philly get out there. I
think third and six hurt scrambles for what seventeen But
they get a whole, They get a whole self inflicted
wounds man, Yes, and then they let them convert. Boy,
(26:56):
that was the best ball. He threw it a day,
twenty eight yards dude. First down. I'm like, oh, man,
they I'm like, yo, they must be trying, they trying
to get in this. Yeah, they trying to go ahead
and give them in this game. Man. They get them
down the fourth and four, I think it was. Now.
They really tried to give him the game this the
(27:17):
Illes stuff in Nebraska. What is she doing? Bro? It
just called a time out because the snap was gonna
be too fast. You know, they got more time. They're
going too hard. Count They got a kicker that can
make that kick. Do they really want to snap that ball?
If they ain't got too probably let the kicker go
do it. It ain't your water hold your water? Right? He
(27:39):
goes and gets into the neutral song tackle, does the
responsible thing that crazy yeah, gets the moving Then second
down hurts hit Dallas again for sixteen. I think the
next play he uh he get uh what was it? Oh? No,
(28:02):
was it was it that person? It was it was
the next play. What happened in the next play? Oh yeah,
the next place? What happened? I'm trying to get you
to the place. What did the corner do?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I want you to tell me everything in the corner
played it just like you know who did it?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You know who did it? Like James Pierre. That's that
cover too, that's that high low. You got the you
got the flat round in front of you, and you
got a seven route behind you. At the end of
the day, he could have got to the low, but
he was playing right there right in between perfect coverage.
So he tell you that deep the short I'm right here.
I'm right here. I can bite the cheese, as Buss
(28:38):
would say, but say, hey, don't bite the cheese the time.
If it's something short in front of you, it's something
deeper behind you. They want you to come up to
it to clear. He hadn't did that, he wouldn't have
got a hand on the ball because it was beat. Yes,
he was beep because like broke, big dog right.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That's not because in cover two, that's not the A
seventh route is not the safety's play. He's got to
be able to come there and make help you. But
the corner the seven round is a corners playing cover too.
You got to make that play. So if he tapped it, boom,
safety is right in enough position to make the tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
They be able to make the play on the ball.
They called the right play for it. They just didn't
count on that corner doing exactly what he did. He
got that hand on that ball, safety was able to
get to it. Game over, game over. That's the way
you do it right there. Bo No, the Eagles, man,
they just that they didn't they do I think they
(29:31):
kicked what so many field goals in the red zone.
They they ain't converted enough of their red zone possessions
into touchdowns. It was too many field goals they had
to settle for it, along with too many turnovers period.
But yeah, like untimely turnovers, you know, for interceptions. This
dude got an interception, a fumble recovery, and a cause
(29:52):
like you you fumbled it, you recovered it, and you
intercepted it all and you got intercepted all them. Yeah,
the Chartist defense just played situationally better. That's what it
come down to. Better in the rear zone and holding
the field goals. Third downs. I think there was only
four or thirteen, you know, Philly was this, you know.
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And then dude, Herbert, dude, he yo, he just toughed
it out. Seven days after having your hands surgically repair
this boy got metal in his hand. Like, but I'm
gonna tell you this, Like they gonna need to get
(30:35):
him some protection. He go get killed out there, man,
one thousand percent. You got a gladiator.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They got a gladiator out there, Herbert, that's fighting for
his life. He know that they ain't gonna really do
too much without him, but for his safety.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
That's why you playing with a surgely repaired hands seven
days later, no days after done.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's fresh wounds under that hand, under that but it's blood.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Man. You can knock something loose in there. That stuff
ain't stable. And they talking about something gallus stuff and all.
I mean, you know, and the bones hardened up around
those plates, boos and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Man, they talking about something. Yeah, it's just some swelling
and scarring.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I say that he just had this turn some some
It told me somebody had surgery in seven days and
they listen. He got open wounds still, That's what I'm saying, Deebo.
He's bleeding out on the on the field. He got
open wounds. Man. Yeah, they gotta relax. They gotta stop
tripping on that man like that man was going hard.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
He got hit to just getting hit too many times.
And I love the way he plays too, like he
knows he uses his legs. He's not gonna he's trying
to help the team out, you know what I'm saying.
So some of those hits he's gonna be taking them,
but just the ones in the pocket where he's just
getting smacked, we just need.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
To He is running around. He ran into a couple
of sets because he just thought somebody was gonna come. Yeah,
and he was like, the time is over with, I
gotta run because that clock in his head yea off, Yeah,
I know how much time they normally give me. He
like there's one, two, somebody's for right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And then but with with with the Eagles, like you said,
it's too many, too many, too many turnovers like that
was that was crazy, you know. And then the ricochets,
a lot of the pad the overthrown balls that could
have been picked. And with that run game, I love
the way they was getting Sakuan gone. But it's like
either bang or bust, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
It's a lot of them. He's getting hit four yard,
three yard losses, one yard losses, the lines just getting
beat like a drum sometimes, so I mean, and then
a lot of the offense, my man Jalen Hurts was
back there like running full blown five wides a lot
of the times too. They just had him spreading it out.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Like they were just calling it, had him out there dealing.
So I mean, I didn't I didn't see any real consistency,
you know what I'm saying to the office, They don't
have really had no flow, so it just looked like okay, step.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Any time they got a little flow, it was like,
oh turnover.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah you know, No, for sure that was not That
was not a good showing by Jalen Man, just because
all them, all them picks.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You can't do that and expect them in the game. Yeah,
I ain't gonna lie. I don't think the difference gonna
play that good. Though. They defense balled out. Yeah, they
defense balled out. I didn't think they was gonna play.
I thought it was gonna be a like, you know,
one of those where you just get you get knocked
all over the place. I mean they what's my man
named Davis ninety.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yes, he's a trouble body, bro trouble he's a big body.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
He was. He was super trouble for that man. And
it's like he's stout. You're not you know, you said.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
People are just coming over and taking over, Like if
he had the gap over there, he's letting the lineman
come get him. No, he's not getting cross faced, he's
none of none of that's happening. He's remaking the line
of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Oh easily easily slicing through there like he like he thinned. Though.
Sometimes that's crazy. That's that was a good game, man.
They say that still is just you know, they say
they got lucky. Man, they say, still just got lucky.
But it's hope that you know, the rivalry provides, and
that Aaron provides a little bit of a rivalry. I mean,
(34:15):
it's you know, they say it's water down in the
AFC over here with us in the North. That's what
they're saying. But Mike did say, hey, you go into
business with Aaron Rodgers for days like this. I agree
with him one hundred percent because that's that's what I
thought we was getting all day you first signed him.
I was like, yo, I ain't gonna say like two
(34:36):
hundred and eighty five yards at a game. But I
thought we was gonna get something that was effective. You know,
I don't. My thing is this though we had we
got him for days like this. I thought we got
him just for the season to play like this all year.
But with that being said, I don't want to feel
(34:56):
like we got to wait till we get to the
twelfth hour to make the necessary changes that we saw
was needed the previous twelve weeks, and we just did
nothing about it. So if that's the case and we
continue to, like, you know, the offense continues to play
like this, you know, like they did last week or
(35:18):
somewhere around it close to it, you know, then somebody
got to be responsible for not changing that the previous
first weeks, right, and then you know, I'll say again
the defense. Hold up, let me say this, If the
offense continues to play this way, okay, and the defense
(35:43):
continues to play the way they played, giving up the
numbers that they did against the Ravens, the outcome will
not be the same. And I highly doubt we'll get
calls you know that we did against them that essentially
helped us win the game. Like and to think about this, like,
(36:06):
the crazy thing is the offense played the best game
they done played all year, and without those two questionable calls,
we could have still lost the game.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
No for sure, for sure, we could obviously do better.
And this is the thing too, The division is you
can only be who you play. The Ravens are leading
in the division, so us being in a sorry division
right now is I mean no, no.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Once we once we beat them, but I'm saying us
being able to lead the division. Now, it's good because
end of the day, you got to be who you play,
and that's who we That's that's our littleness right now.
To be able to get in the playoffs, we had
to beat them, no matter how.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
We beat them, ugly, good defense, do good whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We got out of that stadium with a dub So
I feel you. But moving forward, I know our defense.
I've seen us play at a very very high level.
And offense too, even not even this game was really good,
but I seen a Rod doing the scramble he threw
before touchdowns no picks before this season, so I seen
him do that also. So I'm like a Rod having
him And he says we're going in the business because
(37:10):
later on in the year when it's getting cold, when
we're trying to make the playoffs, win, it doesn't matter
how you win, but you just better make sure you
do win, you know what I'm saying. So I understand
what he's saying that going into these games with a
Rod having a vet quarterback defense, I've seen him do
it before. To offense that I like it. I've seen
him do this before too. It's just our team needs
to have way more consistency. We don't know which team
(37:33):
is going to come into the stadium, just come in
that stadium team.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
As a I want to know what's stopping that. What
do you think is stopping that consistency? Do you think
it's played? Do you think it's played? Play?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I think it's played because a lot of the times
that I'm seeing things debo, it's somebody getting beat, it's
somebody dropping the past. It's a lot of the stuff
is self wounds. Like my man echoes. I'm gonna speak
on him because a lot of the time I be
on them because I'm like, dude, I see the coverage.
You need to be just in your assignment and then
then then you can make the play like it's not
all about you, like having to be perfect. It's just
(38:05):
about you not blowing anything. Everybody needs to not be
out there doing any Mays. If we don't have any
amas and somebody just beat you at that play, then okay,
I can live with that. I can't live with us
doing Mays, turnovers, dumb things.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So I think it's the play. Dudes, y'all better go
out there and no matter what the what, the.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Play is being your gap do what the job is
said to do, and if the job then is bad,
then we'll go and we'll figure out the call.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But a lot of stuff I see more is player
base some stuff. Then I'm like, y'all done it before. Good,
stop getting hit out your gaps. You know what I'm saying,
Catch the ball, don't turn it over. So with this
with a rod I love, I just don't.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I want us to. Don't try to do crazy things.
Just don't offense. I'll say this. I think it's more
of what they're called or allowed to call, because we
ain't never threw the ball down the field that much.
Mm hmm okay, you never threw the ball down and
feel that much. Period, Like if it whatever it's called,
that's the route they gotta run. So obviously it was
(39:05):
something that was said or done that changed how the
offense operated. When it comes down to the defense, A
lot of what I saw, not this game, but previous
games was just scheme schematics. I'm seeing people doing the
same thing, different people doing the same thing, and it's
not that everybody's doing something wrong. That's how you're done.
(39:26):
Scheme it out and it wasn't working, you know, having
last week, you know, having our corners and safeties trying
feel down in the line that was not happening. Like
they tried it for a hot second with Baltimore, and
you know, we changed it up and figured out how
we're going to adjust to it. But I just feel
(39:49):
like it's a combination of the two and when you
are not put in the positions to be able to
be affected, because it's not every man with a gap.
It could be somebody that has two gaps. It could
be somebody where, oh, well, we're worried about that if
it ever, if it ever comes to it. And I
know it's things like that that's going on. So guys
(40:13):
have to play, yes, But at the same time, they
got to be put in positions that, yeah, make those
plays No. A thousand what said, Yeah, So that's let
me see. Like I said, it's it's it's for me,
it's it's a combination of the both. But looking back
(40:35):
on what we've seen, not including this game, due it
was times where I'm just like, yo, they don't know
a schematically when you say that thing of schematically.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Part that I understand is when they ran that play
on us twenty nine times the same play, and here's
the thing to play.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Was actually zoned out that if they fitted exactly how
it's supposed to, then they would be able to make
that play. It's just the guys were not in their gaps,
and then when it came down to it, it was
like it was usually like a gap left open that
he didn't take it too because we weren't really getting
(41:14):
down to it anyway. But you're asking us, you know,
you're asking a corner to come down here and play
like a linebacker. Snap. What it was it twenty thirty snaps?
Come on, when they got big bodies. We need big bodies.
We have to figure out how to cover that some
other way. I don't I just and like I said,
(41:36):
all that that they were doing there, I think it's
just from you know, trying to tweak the defense here
and there to make it work better for the talent
or for the skill set of players that you got.
I think what we've been doing a lot of over
the last ten years is we've been we've been we've
(41:56):
been drafting. We've been drafting players. We've been drafting players
and not players for the position that we need them
to feel I need a D lineman that's going to
be able to hold up in the run game because
he's an interior D lineman, Like I need, you know,
an outside guy that can can can be able to
(42:19):
you know, rush the ball. We don't drop anymore anymore,
so we used to have to have guys that, you know,
had to be able to drop, curl flag, had to
be able to cover scene at least, you know, be
able to chase with the number two. Like it's times
where like I said, you look and I'm locked on
I'm locked on the slot receiver and I'm going like
this looking back at r see, like, hey, you see
(42:40):
them all too by myself? Right, yeah, you know for sure,
you know, but that was something that with Dick Larbos
defense man, it was a it was a lot of
nuances of it that you know, you had to know
everything about it. And when it got to I think
when I went to Cincinnati in thirteen, you know, it
(43:01):
just turned into like it was a lot of players.
I won't say a lot, It was like just a
few players that were young and they were they were
they were in their starting and you know, it's hard
to learn that defense, and they were they were making
big mental error small mental errors, and when you do
that in Coastal the Bolls defense, it strikes up the band.
But that's not how I know coast le Boll operated
(43:23):
for the most part, Like I think the only person
that ever started as a rookie in Coastal BOS defense
was Kendro Bell, and we ran all those MAC defense
like the gap mac guns all that stuff. So it
basically just told the mac a get out of here
and blitz abc D, abc D, and then the linebackers
or whoever else would pick up whatever his coverage work was.
(43:45):
But you know, when we got to the position I
think where we just started, you know, we started drafting
for for the player and not the position that the
player needed to feel. I think it's when, you know,
things started going downhill a little bit. And then we
had a point where, you know, I think between two
thousand and sixteen to about twenty Yeah, that's when I
(44:10):
back up. Yeah, I got the round team. We was
in there like five, we went three, we did real
good Man right right, and they were back up there
and then I think in a twenty one thing started
going down again, and from there it just continued to
go down I don't know if it was just more
(44:31):
changes because I'm not there to see it, I don't
know if that's what it was, but looking at it now,
like I know, just from looking at the scheme of
like this stuff is just it's not correctly dapped out.
The one thing that you said, big, big time that
hits me hard, like when I went there and it
ended up being a really good defense, was if you
don't have that that.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Really kind of you got to know football. You got
to be able to communicate and like be able to
talk to linebacker, be able to talk to the safeties
and know what do we see and we see the
same things. You know what I'm saying, So if there's
any they can't be gray. So we would do some
extra meanings. So like you said, it wasn't just exactly
black and white. I would have to do meanings me, Minka,
you know what I'm saying. With Vince Williams, I love Vince,
because Vince, if you didn't know something, thisn's gonna come
(45:13):
ast you. Min's gonna like this. I don't like the grade, Joe,
like I might need to do ivents. So we need
to figure this out. So we're gonna write.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
So you know, but who who Why wouldn't that be told,
you know, to Vince by this coach. You see what
I'm saying, Like you got to sit down. I know
I'm with you, because there was just like you said,
there there were certain things that was being told that's
different and there's people for the same defense. And it
was like, yo, just because again, as you said, just
(45:42):
because you did it this way, don't mean that's what
we do it. They want to do it this way,
We can't do it that way. But what makes what.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Makes you good is if you have to have people
that end up being like there's there there sometimes has
to be some extra like if everybody's not seeing things
the same way, you have to get onto the same
core because today you're on the field, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
So I would hope.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That the coaches and everybody was setting this stuff up right,
but I just know when I was there, we would
have to have a little bit of extra meetings just
so there's no grade, making sure linebackers and corners see
things the same way.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Is this getting passed off? Is this high low? You
know what I'm saying, Are you taking this or not?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
So the extra stuff to it because when you know,
like Udbo.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
We do. When coach Lebaul was there, we didn't have that.
We knew what it was. Everybody coached the same thing.
This is exactly what it was, you know, And now
you think, look look at this. So in thirteen, I
think I ended up going to Cincinnati and twelve we
were number one defense. In thirteen I think they ended
up dropping to thirteen ranked, and then in eighth, and
(46:47):
then in fourteen it was eighteen, and then coach Lebaul
wasn't renewed and it was said that his defense was old.
It was getting No, that's not what happened. It was
younger players been putting because positions to play that weren't
necessarily ready to play. And with that, you know happening,
(47:08):
you lose the knowledge of the position you're playing because
now this player hasn't been there long enough to know
everything that's going on, but they're forced into playing now
because they may be a higher draft choice or something
like that. And you've seen that happen thirteen, seen it
happening fourteen, and then when I came back in fourteen,
(47:30):
I'm like Okay, it's sort of like the same defense.
It was pretty much the same and then when the
fifteen road, it just totally changed. It was supposed to
be the same defense, but they were changing parts of
the defense to fit what it is that they want
to do. And you can't do that. When you do that,
you mess up the whole up each right, because each
(47:53):
defense has a weakness just as each offense does, and
they have checks and adjustments to it. So for us,
when you do that, you need to added another hole
to the defense. If not two or three, and now
you have guys out of position, you have guys you know,
or not even out of position. It's just that the
(48:13):
change puts them out of position and they can't get
to something else that would have been covered, you know,
otherwise Coach Bowl would tell us, Okay, we know what
this weakness is. I know what this weakness is. If
this happens a we just got to rally to the ball.
They may get, you know, eight ten yards, you got
to make the tackle. And I think us trying to
change that just you trying to cover up. You can't
(48:35):
cover up that play. You got, you got everything else cover.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
But if they get this one we might got to
just rally, catch and tackle quite another down, But trying
to cover up everything is going to make a whole
nother problem. Will I'll get you one thousand percent?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, so, but uh, let's going on here that
Cleveland Cleveland say hey, should don't, should don't go be
number one for the rest of the season. Joe, how
you feel about this? What took him so long?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Joe? You tell me, I'm just as confused as you.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Man. Listen, they had to have undeniable proof numbers. Yeah,
where they could not. They could no longer say hey,
it's week the week. Well, this man just went out
here and did something y'all ain't had done since nineteen fifty.
If you going there and say it's week to week,
we know you ain't for him, no, and like it's
(49:33):
just now.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I mean, the good thing is Dylan Gabriel, he got
his starts out there, he had his chance to see
if he could be the guy he ended up going
down with a concussion. Now my man should gets the
same opportunities. It's only his third start, and I'm not
not this is from no practice with the first is
none of that stuff. He's just showing that he has
the ability to if he gets reps and continues to play,
(49:54):
He's going this way.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
He's getting better.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
And I'm not saying none of these games have been perfect.
He still got things. He can do a whole lot better,
and I know that, and I know he knows that.
Pocket presence, being able to make a little bit quicker decisions,
being able to spin out that slow spin, it just
gets me every time. But eyes down field being able
to make those passes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
So, I mean the good thing.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
It's gonna be a tough schedule coming ahead. I just
wanted the team to be there for him because they're
mathematically eliminated right now. Debo, there's nothing that the Browns
can't go to the playoffs. I don't want people to
start cashing it in on them. He needs them and
needs everybody to be trying to go at the best
of their abilities.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Right now. You can't. The season's kind of over.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
But dudes, you better go play for the name on
your back and play for you know what I'm saying,
just for the next team you may not be with
the Browns or whatever. This is when you start having
these are the talks, Gibo that we used to have
to have. When you're mathematically eliminated, people get to worry
about the offseason, what they're about to do next year,
Like no, no, no, no, no, for your door right now.
He's gonna have a tough stretch of these last five games,
(50:55):
so he's gonna need that for.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Real, had a team with him, have everybody really locked
in fighting for him and for their own job because
you're pros and this is what you do.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Because I say that being in locker rooms that have
been mathematic eliminated, you see people checking out. That's not
cool And I've never been that person. You are the
guy don't lie. You are what you put on tape,
and I never want to be that person. Like try
to solve. No, what you see is what you get.
You want to do what you can do every single
time you put your best foot out there. But shit
(51:24):
gets weird when you're in locker rooms that are losing
and mathematic eliminated and people are looking.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
For their jobs.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Coach are trying to protect their jobs and really, like
she gets weird in those locker rooms. So I just
want them to stay motivated, still fight for your door,
because it's time. Like I think he can be the
quarterback for the leading the leading quarterback for this franchise.
I don't know if the coach is going to be
there with them. I think they need somebody who's going.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
To support your door be full, all in, want that swag,
want to help him be successful. So that's just a
whole nother thing for next year, but just continuing with
this season, I need them to go out there and
fight for him because you know, once you get mathematic eliminated,
people start acting funny, and I need them to block form.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Protect them. Everybody try to get deals. Man, you may
not be with the Browns, but just fight for that
next team.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
So that's what I got to say. Just trying to
give my Browns some some hope, some love because your
door is gonna need it. You know what I'm saying
For these next couple of games coming up. I understand
what you're saying, but I don't know the feeling of
it because I've never been in that situation where you're
just playing for nothing. You know, Bobobo, you're supposed to
be my friend. I mean, can you I'm just saying,
(52:29):
I know you know what? You know what Debo Joe, Joe,
what Joe. You know what. That's why I know I'm
a real. I'm a real I am. I'm okay, Joe,
I'm gonnagg your house. You gonna my Wow. If you
don't want nobody egging your house, then you go egg
(52:49):
my house. I'm joking, Depot, I'm joking. You may me
feel some type of way. You just let's get this.
Let's get to the Super chat Man. Covenant Life is Bad.
Covenant Life seven seventy three nine to seven donated fifty dollars.
I said today on watching from Saint Louis. From Saint Lucia,
Oh oh, she said today she watching from Saint Lucia. Ooh,
(53:14):
send me some of that over here. Man that needs
a great dB camp. Please please start and prepare yourself
for the Steel Curtain Camp for Teenagers. Thank you. What's
the steal she say? Is she saying that we need
to throw camp? Please start and prepare yourself for a
(53:39):
for the Steel Curtain Camp for Teenagers. Thank you. Hope
to see you guys for the Steelers Baltimore game in January.
Are you ready for Miami? Of course, we are ready
for Miami. Yes, yes, yes, we are ready for Miami.
So are we to start a camp where she wanted
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to start?
Speaker 2 (54:00):
She want It's either she wants us to start a
camp devot or she's inviting us to the still curtain camp.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
One of the two. We're gonna have to find out
letting to find out, you know what cover they is
gonna let us know, Yes, yes, coming to go. Let's
know we're still praying for you now, definitely always so uh.
Danny du Bois seventeen twelve. He donated fourteen bucks. He said,
Debo and Joe, you both have played for multiple teams.
(54:27):
Do you still care about the other teams? Or are
you both just black? And dude? You know we know,
we know Joe's answers. Go ahead, Joe, he does he
watch the show? You must not.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
You know I am split loyalties. I keep on saying it.
I got the Stealers and I got the Browns. I
love both. Now, Debo, what about you?
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Debo me? Huh Yeah, I'm black and gold all day?
You black and gold all day? You know I'm black
and gold all day. You ain't right going? So you
I ain't got got I ain't got no. You have
no loyalty to them? Up, I ain't got Nathan non
dollar zero. I ain't got you know what I'm saying.
I appreciate what they did for me. You said, okay,
I appreciate all that. Now look here. If we can't
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get it, do I want one of them? GINTI yeah,
because I feel good about you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
you gotta like if it's me, if if the steal
the black and Gold against Cincinnati back and Gold England,
I gotta go black and gold. Now, if they ain't
(55:37):
in it, then I'm gonna go with the other. But
if we going, we're going, You're going black and gold. Okay,
no respect. Yeah, I got I got. I got to
go black and go. Look here, man, look Danny du
Boys came back. He said, hey, Joe, you gotta pick one.
He donated fourteen for this. You gotta pick one, Joe.
(55:58):
He said, How you gonna make me pick something? How
are you gonna make me pick something? I like both,
mister the boy, Hold on, Joe, what's up? Tell them?
I got your hat for you. So Geebo showing my hat.
(56:19):
I just hope that teams have fun that that that's
Joe right there, and and Covenant Life said she want
us to start the camp twenty. She says she wants
us to start the camp. We need to start the camp.
I'm more of a linebacker, but I'll help him out
if you want to start it though.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
You know, I'm good with the quick feet. I'm you know,
let me what's we're.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Gonna say something this off season. We'll figure something out, Debo.
We're gonna figure it out for show.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Fish and I'm not against that. I love I love
doing the look. I love the camps. I did a
couple of them things.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
You had you a good time over there in Saint Lucia.
Now look here, guys, we want to thank you for
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you know what, I got two we got two sets.
(57:17):
The two tickets come on Debo Monday nine for about
us still as against the Miami Dolphins. And you know
what we don't like it? Dolphins. No, we train them
(57:38):
to do what we want, like Sea World, and we're
gonna be training some dolphins on Sunday. Oh sorry, on
Monday night. We go to night Dolphins on Monday night.
They getting them ready for us. We're having jumping through hoops,
we grab them doing things for us, like doing it. Joe,
(58:00):
you ain't lying, de Bo, you ain't lying. We're gonna
whoop the Dolphins on Monday and we're gonna talk about
it on Tuesday. Yes, sir, he me hoity mm hmm
Welcome back to Devo and Joe. I'm your host, James
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Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing today. How you're doing the day.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Joe doing great, Devo lovely, lovely Tuesday, my brother always
good time a head with you, my guy.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yes, sir, yes, sir man. That was a That was
a game yesterday, wasn't it though? Devo super excited, Yo,
out of control exciting. I ain't. I ain't never thought
I would be that excited about a game that had
that many turnovers.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I was winding the game and I'm like this, baby,
you gotta see this, you gotta see this stuff like
it was just super exciting, Bri.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I had a blast watching it, though. Yeah, man, I
want to go through this detail. Man. You go to
get out there. In the very first play, they go
deep to aj Man and it was just off his fingertips,
man and completed that they could have connected.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That that played the game long foutahol. That was that
would have been That would have been huge, That would
have been huge for him.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
They go back second down, think Sa Kuan got two,
and then third and nine, Hurts hits, Uh what does
it got her? Yeah, he hits got her for nine
right there. First down they handed to sa Quan again.
I think he gets like three in a short one
of Dotson for three and then third down and full
(01:25):
Hurts gets sacked. More of a cover sack than anything else.
He had to work his way up out of it.
Covers in sack, working to guy, covers in rushworking cover.
For sure, they end up punting the ball chargers get
out there. Vid All hits the first one for three
(01:45):
second one. I believe it was an incompletion. He just
he just looked like he dropped that one dead. And
then third and seven, Herbert dumps it to Vdel and
that boy goes sixty yards to the seventeen of Philly. Dude,
I don't that was a huge play. I didn't think
(02:09):
it was gonna get caught. And then the linebacker started
running it down though, I.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Was like, man monkey jumped on Vidal bag El boy
started running underwater, his legs start getting heavy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They get the rook back he went and he went
and ran one forbout eleven on the next play, and
I think it was maybe two after that, and on
the third down Herbert he finished it off to to
Hampton for a four yard touchdown seven zero. That seemed
like it was very easy for them to get down.
(02:43):
I kind of thought the game was gonna be higher
scoring than that after that first drive, to be honest
with you, rather go for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I mean, especially the way the Chargers they walked it
down at you know what, walked down super easy. I'm
hoping that the Eagle was gonna play a little bit
better defense, but uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It was. It was a lot more to come. Yeah,
it was a whole lot more to come. Eagles. Get
back out there, say kwan, he gone ahead, get him
my hot nineteen. Then turn right back around, get get
ten back to back. First out whoever ninety nine was,
he was getting moved around last night, dude. I seen
one player he got like double hooked, dude, like he
(03:19):
got double reached for the charges. Yeah he was, he was.
He was on the he was on the center and
got reached by the guard like he was. He was.
They put him two gaps behind.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, no, that's that ain't gonna get it done. They
don't get the job done.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
De box, No, No, they get a holding, it turns
it into second and twenty, say, Kawi, he picks up
about eight of that. Then third and twelve they convert
Hurts hist it in Dallas again, dude, another it was
a thirteen on that one. Yep. Then they ended up
trying to do like a run. Why would they try
(03:58):
and run that with him? Then? I am no, I
don't know. They sometimes they play call him with just
a little. That's why they in this house, man, That's
why they aging it. I'm just trying to tell you
that why they they need to don't hey, I'm just
telling you they keep calling that. You keep you keep
doing like that. That might be you know, hey, Hurst
(04:20):
so fat third down man Smith, I think he only
got like a yard. They just closed in on him
so fast, dude, them boys just breaking down to him.
Ended up having to settle for a field goal. It's
three to seven. Then Chargers get back out there. The
first play, I don't know how Herbert he shook a
(04:41):
sack man he dumped it to Hampton again. I think
he got seven on that one, and then second he
got dropped. I think they dropped the uh him in
the backfield. Yeah, they dropped him for four dude, Davis,
he was an issue for them. He was a man
in there. Broh yeah on that run game, yeah, man, definitely.
(05:02):
Then the Chargers ended up false starting. I think that
kicked him to like third and twelve or something, and
then they get the interception. I think it was but
because if they was off side Herbert, you know, he
already knew he had a free play, yep, so he
just threw it down there. I think the next play
he eluded like another sack, but it was incomplete. He
(05:25):
just threw He just threw it away. They end up
punting the ball again. Yo. They was I don't know
how long this dude go last behind that offensive line.
Bro Oh my goodness, bro he is a surgery a month.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
A week, a week ago, seven days, and he's still
getting beat up. I was feeling like it still didn't
get to the point he was getting hit running a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But as the game started progressing, you saw like the
hit more and more, more and more.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He started handing it off with the wrong damn hand.
I'm like, yeah, because he got to that joint.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He had a little pain for a minute. He had
he had to switch hands on there was get back
out there, and I think it was a pyramid. Ended
up dropping Sa Kwan for a loss on the first play,
And that's deep. But that's the thing I was saying too.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
A lot of the things when Sakuan was running, he
was either getting into the secondary or they were hitting
him before he could get going, hitting him in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It was one one, Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't really
that much in between. Yeah. I think it was a
second down Hurts hit. Was it a smith of six?
Third down? He ended up throwing it high. It was intercepted,
but on review they saw the ball hit. They got
lucky on that one because what was that That would
(06:38):
have been well five, that'd have been five picks. Yeah. Yeah,
So they end they went the ball and then the
rook get back out there on the first down. I
think he took it for like fifteen Yeah, but it
don't man. The next play they ended up getting a
holding penalty. I think Herbert scramble was for about five.
(06:59):
Next two plays was just incompletely. They punted the rock away. Yeah, yeah,
they punted the rock away. Eagles get the ball back
the first first run again dropped for a loss. Yeah,
they dropped him for a loss again, and then second
down they had an illegal contact untry that gave him
a first up and then previous and then the proceedings
(07:23):
second down he hit He hit Dallas again for sixteen
to get another first down. I think it was second
to seven eight something like that. They're picking up sixteen
there and then Hurts hits that man for twenty J
Brown AJ Brown for twenty two. I believe they get
to like the third down it was, and they get
(07:46):
to the third and two. Yeah, go ahead, third and two,
and in the.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Wildest play I've ever seen ever my life happens because
I figured out I started realizing how many stats happened
in that play.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, it's a pick. It's an assess not to fumble recovery.
Let me tell you this right now. As soon as
dude caught that ball and he started to run, I
was like, he's about to fumble. He started running like
I didn't even know how to hold on to it. Bro, Like,
what are you doing? I'm like, he ain't even putting
it away. He holding it straight up and down like
(08:18):
a loaf of bread. Man. He looked back, got that
punch directly out punched directly out and then got slung
to the ground. Hurts, go ahead, he picks it up.
I'm like, oh man, they done got lucky. They done
got it back. Give me that. Expect him to fumble.
He fumbles, So.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, my man, Hurts got a fumble, he got a pick,
he got a pick, a fumble recovery and a fumble.
He got to pick a fumble, recovery and a fumble
in the same plays the first time in history.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And then my man went and I love the way
they fell on the ball, not having.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
His feet out of bounds, looking crazy, not rushing, he
felt right on that ball, drop right on right and bounds.
I'm like this, thank you. Way to be professional, not panic,
have your legs off, your feet out of bounds, and
you laying it on the ball. I'm like, what are
they doing? So good job by him falling on the
ball and not looking crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, Chargers get the ball back. I think v d
All went a hot eight on the first one. Then
third down herbig hits hairs for like eighteen across the
body pressure. He's moving around and he's making these throws. Man, yes,
bro like with the hand jacked and all that, like dude. Yeah,
(09:32):
they got some protection, do you, Yes, he could do.
I think some of the I think the linemen are
hurt too. But he's back there getting smacked. You gotta
protect your investment. He's not soft. He's out there fighting
for his life. So you're right. If they protect them, man,
it'll be good. Yes. Yes, they handed to v Doll again.
He got six on the first down. They get the
(09:54):
third down and they sack herb. They end up having
to settle for the field goal. This is ten to seven, now,
ten to three. Ten yeah, ten to three, okay, on
ten to three now, dude, the Eagles get back out there.
The second play, Hurts is intercepted again. Yes, brother, that's
(10:16):
just great corner play. Dice concept. Little slip, little slip,
little little slip, but great play. Great. He knew it
was dice. He saw that, he saw that tight end
to the flat. It's dice. It's just like a five
people on the lisce.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You got two curls, you got two people in the flat,
and you got somebody sitting over the ball. He saw
him sit and I'm like, oh my gosh, he broke
on that beautifully. Man slipped and fell, But that's just unfortunate,
great defensive play. Sorry you had to slip and fall,
but that was just that's I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
As a dB, I'm like, oh, yeah, go get your money, Yeah,
go give me, give me that, give me that. Chargers
get back out there. First play sack fumble recovered. As
much as Hampton helped him running the ball, he was
a serious live ability in past protection.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know what that was, debo, You know exactly, backs
on backers, yes, backs on backers. He saw that man,
and if you have your back, your backer on the back,
you're gonna win that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's what you do, not win. We did not win.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What kind of linebacker are you? You know what I'm saying.
They're like, no, you expected to run.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Through that man.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So that's exactly what he did. I said, Oh, people's
gonna love this back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, yes, no question. If you don't do nothing else,
you gotta at least push him into his lap. You know,
you see him through that running back. He's a backer.
Easy first down, Barkley come up out there. He get
him nine. Then second down he getting five. Yeah, they
went again, he getting thirteen again. That was the play
(11:46):
ninety nine that got double scooped on like I don't know,
Like I said, I don't know what was going on,
but he had he had a tough day. Yeah, second
and seven, Hurts to aj again. Yes, eleven, they get
to the next second down, Hurts the Dallas got it
again for eleven and it's another first down, like I
(12:10):
think they they got like maybe they got to the
next first down and it was like maybe like they
got maybe two yards or something like that. They ended
up coming away with only like a field goal because
they had a holding on the second and it was
actually I think it was a touchdown. Yeah, it was
a touchdown, and then I called back for holding. Yep,
(12:31):
Hurts bumbled the joint and from yeah that on the Jones.
They got lucky all the way through that, everybody was
getting lucky. It could have been at least four more turnovers. Yeah, yeah,
I think it ended up getting the field going on
that and right it was six to ten, six to ten, Yeah,
it's sixty ten and then Chargers get out there. It
(12:52):
ain't nothing, but like what fifty seconds left, forty seconds
left like that, trying to see I they can go
get some points before halftime, dude, and third down, he
is intercepted and it's having had his arm hit the
thing just flopped up in there, and then to add.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
To it, you know, running back. But see that, that's
that's the extra. Why are you trying to slam man?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You hear the whistle blowing, you're frustrated, but that's fifteen.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like that's the dumb stuff. I hate when people do,
like don you hear the whistle boom? I'm like, what
was that for, coach you? And now you got us
looking crazy?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That put him after I think the thirty of LA
when the Eagles got the ball back, but the field
goal kicker goes out there. They try to play. Field
goal kicker goes out there and he misses the field goal.
Halftime still six to ten year and the Chargers come
out and they work their way down the field. This
(13:53):
drive was long, long, dude. I think it was like
sixteen plays or something like that for nine minutes and
thirty seconds. Yeah, a lot of third conversion. Yeah, yeah.
Herbert scrambled I think for two of the first downs,
the longest one being the third down. I think he
went for like fifteen and then he got out of
another sack on that dude. He could they could have
(14:15):
sacked him about ten twelve times for sure, for sure,
and then they go and kick the field goal. It's good,
but dude gets a penalty for leverage. Dude, he didn't
even try and not leverage. He looked like he actually
went there to leverage. He was like, what what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like like it was like this, like the coach told
him what you need to do is go push on
his back as hard as you can see how you
could get I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
What in the world is he doing? Bro? Didn't even
go high. They ended up getting lucky. Well, defense stood
up to it, and then they got lucky. But they
get to like nine, that's bro, they dna standing up.
They end up holding them to a field goal. So
don't it. Don't it. Don't crease them too bad. It's
six to thirteen now, yes, sir, And this is when
(15:05):
Philly came out on the kickoff return they fumbled it.
They got lucky on that return that it was that way,
but to bounce if it bounced any other way. He
just was lucky, dude, very very very lucky. Dude. First
down I think hurts its aj for like twenty six.
(15:27):
Chargers end up being able to hold. They hold them
to a field goal. It's nine to thirteen now right, yep.
And the Chargers come out there and they basically go
three and out with a sack fumble. They that's the
lucky to recover. That's the one almost who really mess
his hand up. And then you know the uh the
(15:52):
second down again, you got to do that beat again
for the sack. That was the sack of like he
get Hampton was he was, he helped him running, but
that was another back on backer. Yes, he was the
serious liability in the man that's fast protection. Like it
looks like everybody liability in the past protection. They out
(16:13):
there running for his life. Uh, running for his life? Yes, yes,
to skip back out there and second down finally McConkie
getting one for twelve. Then the next second down Herbert
ends up affording another sad scrambles for seven.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Talk out we after after they got the back to
back the back some backers and they punted it to
the Eagles. That's when they got the That's when when
the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
End up scoring. Oh, you're right, they had touchdown.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
We had the fake toush push the fake to push
on thirty one, I call that the toush toss.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yes, because the time got loose on them. Oh yeah thirteen.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yes, yes, yes, I was waiting on that toussy.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes. I said, oh that was nice. Yeah. So they
go stop. Yeah, they're gonna stop holding that, you know,
putting everybody up in there. Hey, I ain't gonna lie.
It looked like he might have got away with a
little hold over there. Tool for sure he did, Hey,
for sure he did. He hold he held ma. He
was he he he had ma. He had him by
his back like. They didn't call it. So that's why
(17:27):
I didn't acknowledge it. My bad. I'm just saying I
seen it. I seen that too. I think I seen it.
I see Yeah, now the charge get back out there. Yes,
takond down Herbert Gone's head and he hits Conky, getting
my hot twelve. There we go, get involved with Conky.
I was looking on Conkey. Yeah. The next second down
Herbert a voice another sack. I think he gaged seven.
(17:47):
But the Eagle Stephens was able to do what they
need to do, hold him down, get them to punt
the rock. Yes, sir, Eagles get back out there, man,
I think it's the punter when they punted it to him.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
He almost he was bobbling it and got face mask too.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I don't know how he kept the ball. I don't
know how they didn't call that face man. I think
because they get't called another one, and it looked like
it could have been fast the same way. Crazy. That's crazy.
He got a call. Yeah, look what are y'all looking at?
He's the only person that got the ball and head
he turned that whole head.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yes, yeah, Refereez needs start getting fined. First down hurts.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I think it was Cooper for nineteen and then he
proceeds to throw another innerception. But I'm gonna say this,
that wasn't all his fault. Heck no, it wasn't. AJ
got them Gator on side. That boy come down there
and he said, I got to get my hands down
faster than I got to worry about catching this ball,
so I don't get my MiG session lit up.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Thousand percent debo as that receiver and you're making thirty
five million dollars a year. I need you to expose
yourself to that hit. You know what I'm saying it is?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
You know, maybe he was thinking if I do that,
who knows next time? Man, de bo, don't even do that. Man.
Everybody got dirty stuff to their job. Man across that
million to catch that rock, you know what I'm saying,
bomb because he can't, he can't, he can't fold it in.
That was that was a man. You gotta go ahead
get that. But that's it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
But then look, if you don't get it, it's a pig.
And now you setting your team up for failure. And
you want the rock. H you the man, I love you,
but you gotta have your quarterback feeling like this. If
I'm throwing over there, worst case scenario, if it's a
bad ball, I don't want it to be picked.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But that's okay, that's okay ball. You gotta go get
that for me. Please, all dudes, keep the hands up
a little higher. And actually, like as soon as he
went the junk to get it, he looked to see
where somebody was at and that was immediate note returning
that one thing. I think it was to the Philly
like thirty five. And then Chargers get out there and
(19:53):
I think the first play Herbert got sacked sack number six.
By then, you know, they completed maybe one more first
down and again they had to settle for a field goal.
Defense was able to do what they needed to do.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Eagles defense was answering calls and putting out forest fires
the whole game. Bro Oh, dude, he was them dudes
was hooping offense. Did not put them any good positions.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, they they helped the cause too much. I think
it just tied up sixteen sixteen now and then basically
the Eagles and the Chargers. I think they traded back
and forth three and outs. Then Philly ends up getting
it and starting at the forty after that punt return, yep,
(20:41):
and it's I think it's only like three a little
over three and a half minutes left to play. Second
down hurts his AJA again sixteen But he actually broke
that one, broke the tackle, get held on to him, yay.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And now I thought he was about the hurdle, buddy,
and stay in bounds and just get all the way
up to the sideline.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Looked like I thought he had jumped it. But when
he jumped in, I guess he jumped and slid out
a little when he jumped instead of going instead of
going in for sure. And then the next second down
hurts his AJ again. Big boys in that time, big
boy slams dude. The following second down, guess guess who
(21:23):
guess who? Oh to aj Yes had the ball. Man
that dB made a hell of five play, bro, come on.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Come on, de bo, that's that's how you. It was like,
oh he dropped it. He didn't drop it. The defensive
back ricked it, put his hand in that bucket the same.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Time and got that arm yep. So that's why he
was looking at you get that chance to actually get
it fully locked in so he could squeeze zepp in
the arm off. So now you can't catch the ball.
That was perfect. dB played perfect time and AJ Brown
knew he was like this. He knew. He was like,
that's just a great play.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I gotta have that for show. But he knocked it out,
so like great ball, great right there. But the defensive
back like, ah, that's how you make a play. That's
a pass breakup. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The competitor and the way he see himself, he wants
to be great. He gotta have that. He said it himself.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So the offenser side, yes, that was it touched both
your hands. So you feel like I need that. That's
my ball for show. As a dB, I gotta have
that pass breakup. That's real fight to the last last tex.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yes, right there. They ended up, you know, keeping him
to only a field goal. That's an extra four points
not on the board, nineteen to sixteen Chargers get back
out there, ended up getting to I think it was
third and ten. It was incomplete, but it was a
pass and I gave him a first down. That's huge,
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bro that it would have been over. It was a rat,
it would have been over over. Then that first down
Herbert scrambles, Hey for seven. I'm gonna tell you right now,
he is not stepping out of bounds right there, that's me.
He is in bounds. Oh no, no, for she isn't
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that right there? I would have felt like he's after
the outcome had happened, that I just lost us the game,
because that right there, you would have to be like, Nope,
you can finish next week.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, because at the end of the day, what you're saying,
my man was running out of bounds to the angle,
where like, there's no way because if he would have
hit him at the angle he was running, they were
out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But if he was coming he was he was already
out of bounds. So when he came down, his foot
would have been in bounds when he hit him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
No, No, I'm saying if he would have came at
an angle to hit him, he could have hit him
straight and busy for sure. But I'm saying he was
running out of bounds, like just someone seeing he was coming.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He was running out of here talking about good play. Nice.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, it's not you think he should have found him.
He should have just found him. What he in bounds? Dude,
you need to get out faster. Same thing with with with.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Dark, with dark, No a thousand percent. I just want
to protect that hand and everything else. He went. Yeah,
he looked out.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He just looked out because the d ran out of bounds,
like I know where you're running.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I see somebody chasing you. I could from you, but
I'm just like gonna run in front of you, out
of bounds, run in front of you, out of the dude.
Look he looked at He had a whole footing bounds
when he went past him. He could have I'm not cold,
he could have Fon next play, Videl goes what eight
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and then third and four? Who scrambles for another first
down her mind? That shouldn't he probably even been in
the game. No broken hand, like broken hand, like you
stumming shot anything like anything that that hand would have
been tingling so bad he wouldn't have been able to
even try and throw it. Like, yeah, he got it's
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been able to at least be there for the next
couple of plays. Take away to scramble that led to
a first down on third four, and then he gets
another nine pull, pulled it again. He started doing that leg.
Yes it's again, Eagles able to hold him. They tie
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it up. It's nineteen nineteen. We get into overtime. Yes,
Chargers get the ball to start and now we're pulling
it again. Herb's like, well win this. I'm trying to
win this thing. Well, then Hampton go eighteen. Yes, they
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get able to they you know, they able to stop it.
They got a great kicker over there. They get the
field goal twenty two to nineteen. Yep. I'm like, I'm
just thinking, like, yo, if that's me and we get
to the points of where Philly is at now and
we lose this game, I am never doing that again.
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I Am never. I ain't sparing nobody. Oh I can't.
Oh you're talking about that? Yeah, you still I ain't
spirit due, I ain't spirit All these players he done
did he ain't supposed to even be in there doing them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, that would have been the finisher for Shure because
he did debo. You're exactly right when I'm looking at
the game. He could have peeled on them, but he
didn't have that. He didn't even have the intentions to
peel on him. He just wanted to. He just ran
in front of him like, oh, I could have hit you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Like just basically showing him. But like, I know what
you're saying. I did idea, like right across from mid
section bomb. He could have Philly get out there. I
think third and six hurt scrambles for what seventeen But
they get a whole, They get a whole self inflicted
wounds man, Yes, and then they let them convert. Boy,
(26:56):
that was the best ball. He threw it a day,
twenty eight yards dude. First down. I'm like, oh, man,
they I'm like, yo, they must be trying, they trying
to get in this. Yeah, they trying to go ahead
and give them in this game. Man. They get them
down the fourth and four, I think it was. Now.
They really tried to give him the game this the
(27:17):
Illes stuff in Nebraska. What is she doing? Bro? It
just called a time out because the snap was gonna
be too fast. You know, they got more time. They're
going too hard. Count They got a kicker that can
make that kick. Do they really want to snap that ball?
If they ain't got too probably let the kicker go
do it. It ain't your water hold your water? Right? He
(27:39):
goes and gets into the neutral song tackle, does the
responsible thing that crazy yeah, gets the moving Then second
down hurts hit Dallas again for sixteen. I think the
next play he uh he get uh what was it? Oh? No,
(28:02):
was it was it that person? It was it was
the next play. What happened in the next play? Oh yeah,
the next place? What happened? I'm trying to get you
to the place. What did the corner do?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I want you to tell me everything in the corner
played it just like you know who did it?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You know who did it? Like James Pierre. That's that
cover too, that's that high low. You got the you
got the flat round in front of you, and you
got a seven route behind you. At the end of
the day, he could have got to the low, but
he was playing right there right in between perfect coverage.
So he tell you that deep the short I'm right here.
I'm right here. I can bite the cheese, as Buss
(28:38):
would say, but say, hey, don't bite the cheese the time.
If it's something short in front of you, it's something
deeper behind you. They want you to come up to
it to clear. He hadn't did that, he wouldn't have
got a hand on the ball because it was beat. Yes,
he was beep because like broke, big dog right.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That's not because in cover two, that's not the A
seventh route is not the safety's play. He's got to
be able to come there and make help you. But
the corner the seven round is a corners playing cover too.
You got to make that play. So if he tapped it, boom,
safety is right in enough position to make the tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
They be able to make the play on the ball.
They called the right play for it. They just didn't
count on that corner doing exactly what he did. He
got that hand on that ball, safety was able to
get to it. Game over, game over. That's the way
you do it right there. Bo No, the Eagles, man,
they just that they didn't they do I think they
(29:31):
kicked what so many field goals in the red zone.
They they ain't converted enough of their red zone possessions
into touchdowns. It was too many field goals they had
to settle for it, along with too many turnovers period.
But yeah, like untimely turnovers, you know, for interceptions. This
dude got an interception, a fumble recovery, and a cause
(29:52):
like you you fumbled it, you recovered it, and you
intercepted it all and you got intercepted all them. Yeah,
the Chartist defense just played situationally better. That's what it
come down to. Better in the rear zone and holding
the field goals. Third downs. I think there was only
four or thirteen, you know, Philly was this, you know.
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And then dude, Herbert, dude, he yo, he just toughed
it out. Seven days after having your hands surgically repair
this boy got metal in his hand. Like, but I'm
gonna tell you this, Like they gonna need to get
(30:35):
him some protection. He go get killed out there, man,
one thousand percent. You got a gladiator.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They got a gladiator out there, Herbert, that's fighting for
his life. He know that they ain't gonna really do
too much without him, but for his safety.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
That's why you playing with a surgely repaired hands seven
days later, no days after done.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's fresh wounds under that hand, under that but it's blood.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Man. You can knock something loose in there. That stuff
ain't stable. And they talking about something gallus stuff and all.
I mean, you know, and the bones hardened up around
those plates, boos and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Man, they talking about something. Yeah, it's just some swelling
and scarring.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I say that he just had this turn some some
It told me somebody had surgery in seven days and
they listen. He got open wounds still, That's what I'm saying, Deebo.
He's bleeding out on the on the field. He got
open wounds. Man. Yeah, they gotta relax. They gotta stop
tripping on that man like that man was going hard.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
He got hit to just getting hit too many times.
And I love the way he plays too, like he
knows he uses his legs. He's not gonna he's trying
to help the team out, you know what I'm saying.
So some of those hits he's gonna be taking them,
but just the ones in the pocket where he's just
getting smacked, we just need.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
To He is running around. He ran into a couple
of sets because he just thought somebody was gonna come. Yeah,
and he was like, the time is over with, I
gotta run because that clock in his head yea off, Yeah,
I know how much time they normally give me. He
like there's one, two, somebody's for right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And then but with with with the Eagles, like you said,
it's too many, too many, too many turnovers like that
was that was crazy, you know. And then the ricochets,
a lot of the pad the overthrown balls that could
have been picked. And with that run game, I love
the way they was getting Sakuan gone. But it's like
either bang or bust, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
It's a lot of them. He's getting hit four yard,
three yard losses, one yard losses, the lines just getting
beat like a drum sometimes, so I mean, and then
a lot of the offense, my man Jalen Hurts was
back there like running full blown five wides a lot
of the times too. They just had him spreading it out.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Like they were just calling it, had him out there dealing.
So I mean, I didn't I didn't see any real consistency,
you know what I'm saying to the office, They don't
have really had no flow, so it just looked like okay, step.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Any time they got a little flow, it was like,
oh turnover.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah you know, No, for sure that was not That
was not a good showing by Jalen Man, just because
all them, all them picks.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You can't do that and expect them in the game. Yeah,
I ain't gonna lie. I don't think the difference gonna
play that good. Though. They defense balled out. Yeah, they
defense balled out. I didn't think they was gonna play.
I thought it was gonna be a like, you know,
one of those where you just get you get knocked
all over the place. I mean they what's my man
named Davis ninety.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yes, he's a trouble body, bro trouble he's a big body.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
He was. He was super trouble for that man. And
it's like he's stout. You're not you know, you said.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
People are just coming over and taking over, Like if
he had the gap over there, he's letting the lineman
come get him. No, he's not getting cross faced, he's
none of none of that's happening. He's remaking the line
of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Oh easily easily slicing through there like he like he thinned. Though.
Sometimes that's crazy. That's that was a good game, man.
They say that still is just you know, they say
they got lucky. Man, they say, still just got lucky.
But it's hope that you know, the rivalry provides, and
that Aaron provides a little bit of a rivalry. I mean,
(34:15):
it's you know, they say it's water down in the
AFC over here with us in the North. That's what
they're saying. But Mike did say, hey, you go into
business with Aaron Rodgers for days like this. I agree
with him one hundred percent because that's that's what I
thought we was getting all day you first signed him.
I was like, yo, I ain't gonna say like two
(34:36):
hundred and eighty five yards at a game. But I
thought we was gonna get something that was effective. You know,
I don't. My thing is this though we had we
got him for days like this. I thought we got
him just for the season to play like this all year.
But with that being said, I don't want to feel
(34:56):
like we got to wait till we get to the
twelfth hour to make the necessary changes that we saw
was needed the previous twelve weeks, and we just did
nothing about it. So if that's the case and we
continue to, like, you know, the offense continues to play
like this, you know, like they did last week or
(35:18):
somewhere around it close to it, you know, then somebody
got to be responsible for not changing that the previous
first weeks, right, and then you know, I'll say again
the defense. Hold up, let me say this, If the
offense continues to play this way, okay, and the defense
(35:43):
continues to play the way they played, giving up the
numbers that they did against the Ravens, the outcome will
not be the same. And I highly doubt we'll get
calls you know that we did against them that essentially
helped us win the game. Like and to think about this, like,
(36:06):
the crazy thing is the offense played the best game
they done played all year, and without those two questionable calls,
we could have still lost the game.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
No for sure, for sure, we could obviously do better.
And this is the thing too, The division is you
can only be who you play. The Ravens are leading
in the division, so us being in a sorry division
right now is I mean no, no.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Once we once we beat them, but I'm saying us
being able to lead the division. Now, it's good because
end of the day, you got to be who you play,
and that's who we That's that's our littleness right now.
To be able to get in the playoffs, we had
to beat them, no matter how.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
We beat them, ugly, good defense, do good whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We got out of that stadium with a dub So
I feel you. But moving forward, I know our defense.
I've seen us play at a very very high level.
And offense too, even not even this game was really good,
but I seen a Rod doing the scramble he threw
before touchdowns no picks before this season, so I seen
him do that also. So I'm like a Rod having
him And he says we're going in the business because
(37:10):
later on in the year when it's getting cold, when
we're trying to make the playoffs, win, it doesn't matter
how you win, but you just better make sure you
do win, you know what I'm saying. So I understand
what he's saying that going into these games with a
Rod having a vet quarterback defense, I've seen him do
it before. To offense that I like it. I've seen
him do this before too. It's just our team needs
to have way more consistency. We don't know which team
(37:33):
is going to come into the stadium, just come in
that stadium team.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
As a I want to know what's stopping that. What
do you think is stopping that consistency? Do you think
it's played? Do you think it's played? Play?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I think it's played because a lot of the times
that I'm seeing things debo, it's somebody getting beat, it's
somebody dropping the past. It's a lot of the stuff
is self wounds. Like my man echoes. I'm gonna speak
on him because a lot of the time I be
on them because I'm like, dude, I see the coverage.
You need to be just in your assignment and then
then then you can make the play like it's not
all about you, like having to be perfect. It's just
(38:05):
about you not blowing anything. Everybody needs to not be
out there doing any Mays. If we don't have any
amas and somebody just beat you at that play, then okay,
I can live with that. I can't live with us
doing Mays, turnovers, dumb things.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So I think it's the play. Dudes, y'all better go
out there and no matter what the what, the.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Play is being your gap do what the job is
said to do, and if the job then is bad,
then we'll go and we'll figure out the call.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But a lot of stuff I see more is player
base some stuff. Then I'm like, y'all done it before. Good,
stop getting hit out your gaps. You know what I'm saying,
Catch the ball, don't turn it over. So with this
with a rod I love, I just don't.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I want us to. Don't try to do crazy things.
Just don't offense. I'll say this. I think it's more
of what they're called or allowed to call, because we
ain't never threw the ball down the field that much.
Mm hmm okay, you never threw the ball down and
feel that much. Period, Like if it whatever it's called,
that's the route they gotta run. So obviously it was
(39:05):
something that was said or done that changed how the
offense operated. When it comes down to the defense, A
lot of what I saw, not this game, but previous
games was just scheme schematics. I'm seeing people doing the
same thing, different people doing the same thing, and it's
not that everybody's doing something wrong. That's how you're done.
(39:26):
Scheme it out and it wasn't working, you know, having
last week, you know, having our corners and safeties trying
feel down in the line that was not happening. Like
they tried it for a hot second with Baltimore, and
you know, we changed it up and figured out how
we're going to adjust to it. But I just feel
(39:49):
like it's a combination of the two and when you
are not put in the positions to be able to
be affected, because it's not every man with a gap.
It could be somebody that has two gaps. It could
be somebody where, oh, well, we're worried about that if
it ever, if it ever comes to it. And I
know it's things like that that's going on. So guys
(40:13):
have to play, yes, But at the same time, they
got to be put in positions that, yeah, make those
plays No. A thousand what said, Yeah, So that's let
me see. Like I said, it's it's it's for me,
it's it's a combination of the both. But looking back
(40:35):
on what we've seen, not including this game, due it
was times where I'm just like, yo, they don't know
a schematically when you say that thing of schematically.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Part that I understand is when they ran that play
on us twenty nine times the same play, and here's
the thing to play.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Was actually zoned out that if they fitted exactly how
it's supposed to, then they would be able to make
that play. It's just the guys were not in their gaps,
and then when it came down to it, it was
like it was usually like a gap left open that
he didn't take it too because we weren't really getting
(41:14):
down to it anyway. But you're asking us, you know,
you're asking a corner to come down here and play
like a linebacker. Snap. What it was it twenty thirty snaps?
Come on, when they got big bodies. We need big bodies.
We have to figure out how to cover that some
other way. I don't I just and like I said,
(41:36):
all that that they were doing there, I think it's
just from you know, trying to tweak the defense here
and there to make it work better for the talent
or for the skill set of players that you got.
I think what we've been doing a lot of over
the last ten years is we've been we've been we've
(41:56):
been drafting. We've been drafting players. We've been drafting players
and not players for the position that we need them
to feel I need a D lineman that's going to
be able to hold up in the run game because
he's an interior D lineman, Like I need, you know,
an outside guy that can can can be able to
(42:19):
you know, rush the ball. We don't drop anymore anymore,
so we used to have to have guys that, you know,
had to be able to drop, curl flag, had to
be able to cover scene at least, you know, be
able to chase with the number two. Like it's times
where like I said, you look and I'm locked on
I'm locked on the slot receiver and I'm going like
this looking back at r see, like, hey, you see
(42:40):
them all too by myself? Right, yeah, you know for sure,
you know, but that was something that with Dick Larbos
defense man, it was a it was a lot of
nuances of it that you know, you had to know
everything about it. And when it got to I think
when I went to Cincinnati in thirteen, you know, it
(43:01):
just turned into like it was a lot of players.
I won't say a lot, It was like just a
few players that were young and they were they were
they were in their starting and you know, it's hard
to learn that defense, and they were they were making
big mental error small mental errors, and when you do
that in Coastal the Bolls defense, it strikes up the band.
But that's not how I know coast le Boll operated
(43:23):
for the most part, Like I think the only person
that ever started as a rookie in Coastal BOS defense
was Kendro Bell, and we ran all those MAC defense
like the gap mac guns all that stuff. So it
basically just told the mac a get out of here
and blitz abc D, abc D, and then the linebackers
or whoever else would pick up whatever his coverage work was.
(43:45):
But you know, when we got to the position I
think where we just started, you know, we started drafting
for for the player and not the position that the
player needed to feel. I think it's when, you know,
things started going downhill a little bit. And then we
had a point where, you know, I think between two
thousand and sixteen to about twenty Yeah, that's when I
(44:10):
back up. Yeah, I got the round team. We was
in there like five, we went three, we did real
good Man right right, and they were back up there
and then I think in a twenty one thing started
going down again, and from there it just continued to
go down I don't know if it was just more
(44:31):
changes because I'm not there to see it, I don't
know if that's what it was, but looking at it now,
like I know, just from looking at the scheme of
like this stuff is just it's not correctly dapped out.
The one thing that you said, big, big time that
hits me hard, like when I went there and it
ended up being a really good defense, was if you
don't have that that.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Really kind of you got to know football. You got
to be able to communicate and like be able to
talk to linebacker, be able to talk to the safeties
and know what do we see and we see the
same things. You know what I'm saying, So if there's
any they can't be gray. So we would do some
extra meanings. So like you said, it wasn't just exactly
black and white. I would have to do meanings me, Minka,
you know what I'm saying. With Vince Williams, I love Vince,
because Vince, if you didn't know something, thisn's gonna come
(45:13):
ast you. Min's gonna like this. I don't like the grade, Joe,
like I might need to do ivents. So we need
to figure this out. So we're gonna write.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
So you know, but who who Why wouldn't that be told,
you know, to Vince by this coach. You see what
I'm saying, Like you got to sit down. I know
I'm with you, because there was just like you said,
there there were certain things that was being told that's
different and there's people for the same defense. And it
was like, yo, just because again, as you said, just
(45:42):
because you did it this way, don't mean that's what
we do it. They want to do it this way,
We can't do it that way. But what makes what.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Makes you good is if you have to have people
that end up being like there's there there sometimes has
to be some extra like if everybody's not seeing things
the same way, you have to get onto the same
core because today you're on the field, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
So I would hope.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That the coaches and everybody was setting this stuff up right,
but I just know when I was there, we would
have to have a little bit of extra meetings just
so there's no grade, making sure linebackers and corners see
things the same way.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Is this getting passed off? Is this high low? You
know what I'm saying, Are you taking this or not?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
So the extra stuff to it because when you know,
like Udbo.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
We do. When coach Lebaul was there, we didn't have that.
We knew what it was. Everybody coached the same thing.
This is exactly what it was, you know, And now
you think, look look at this. So in thirteen, I
think I ended up going to Cincinnati and twelve we
were number one defense. In thirteen I think they ended
up dropping to thirteen ranked, and then in eighth, and
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then in fourteen it was eighteen, and then coach Lebaul
wasn't renewed and it was said that his defense was old.
It was getting No, that's not what happened. It was
younger players been putting because positions to play that weren't
necessarily ready to play. And with that, you know happening,
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you lose the knowledge of the position you're playing because
now this player hasn't been there long enough to know
everything that's going on, but they're forced into playing now
because they may be a higher draft choice or something
like that. And you've seen that happen thirteen, seen it
happening fourteen, and then when I came back in fourteen,
(47:30):
I'm like Okay, it's sort of like the same defense.
It was pretty much the same and then when the
fifteen road, it just totally changed. It was supposed to
be the same defense, but they were changing parts of
the defense to fit what it is that they want
to do. And you can't do that. When you do that,
you mess up the whole up each right, because each
(47:53):
defense has a weakness just as each offense does, and
they have checks and adjustments to it. So for us,
when you do that, you need to added another hole
to the defense. If not two or three, and now
you have guys out of position, you have guys you know,
or not even out of position. It's just that the
(48:13):
change puts them out of position and they can't get
to something else that would have been covered, you know,
otherwise Coach Bowl would tell us, Okay, we know what
this weakness is. I know what this weakness is. If
this happens a we just got to rally to the ball.
They may get, you know, eight ten yards, you got
to make the tackle. And I think us trying to
change that just you trying to cover up. You can't
(48:35):
cover up that play. You got, you got everything else cover.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
But if they get this one we might got to
just rally, catch and tackle quite another down, But trying
to cover up everything is going to make a whole
nother problem. Will I'll get you one thousand percent?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, so, but uh, let's going on here that
Cleveland Cleveland say hey, should don't, should don't go be
number one for the rest of the season. Joe, how
you feel about this? What took him so long?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Joe? You tell me, I'm just as confused as you.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Man. Listen, they had to have undeniable proof numbers. Yeah,
where they could not. They could no longer say hey,
it's week the week. Well, this man just went out
here and did something y'all ain't had done since nineteen fifty.
If you going there and say it's week to week,
we know you ain't for him, no, and like it's
(49:33):
just now.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I mean, the good thing is Dylan Gabriel, he got
his starts out there, he had his chance to see
if he could be the guy he ended up going
down with a concussion. Now my man should gets the
same opportunities. It's only his third start, and I'm not
not this is from no practice with the first is
none of that stuff. He's just showing that he has
the ability to if he gets reps and continues to play,
(49:54):
He's going this way.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
He's getting better.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
And I'm not saying none of these games have been perfect.
He still got things. He can do a whole lot better,
and I know that, and I know he knows that.
Pocket presence, being able to make a little bit quicker decisions,
being able to spin out that slow spin, it just
gets me every time. But eyes down field being able
to make those passes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
So, I mean the good thing.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
It's gonna be a tough schedule coming ahead. I just
wanted the team to be there for him because they're
mathematically eliminated right now. Debo, there's nothing that the Browns
can't go to the playoffs. I don't want people to
start cashing it in on them. He needs them and
needs everybody to be trying to go at the best
of their abilities.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Right now. You can't. The season's kind of over.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
But dudes, you better go play for the name on
your back and play for you know what I'm saying,
just for the next team you may not be with
the Browns or whatever. This is when you start having
these are the talks, Gibo that we used to have
to have. When you're mathematically eliminated, people get to worry
about the offseason, what they're about to do next year,
Like no, no, no, no, no, for your door right now.
He's gonna have a tough stretch of these last five games,
(50:55):
so he's gonna need that for.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Real, had a team with him, have everybody really locked
in fighting for him and for their own job because
you're pros and this is what you do.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Because I say that being in locker rooms that have
been mathematic eliminated, you see people checking out. That's not
cool And I've never been that person. You are the
guy don't lie. You are what you put on tape,
and I never want to be that person. Like try
to solve. No, what you see is what you get.
You want to do what you can do every single
time you put your best foot out there. But shit
(51:24):
gets weird when you're in locker rooms that are losing
and mathematic eliminated and people are looking.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
For their jobs.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Coach are trying to protect their jobs and really, like
she gets weird in those locker rooms. So I just
want them to stay motivated, still fight for your door,
because it's time. Like I think he can be the
quarterback for the leading the leading quarterback for this franchise.
I don't know if the coach is going to be
there with them. I think they need somebody who's going.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
To support your door be full, all in, want that swag,
want to help him be successful. So that's just a
whole nother thing for next year, but just continuing with
this season, I need them to go out there and
fight for him because you know, once you get mathematic eliminated,
people start acting funny, and I need them to block form.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Protect them. Everybody try to get deals. Man, you may
not be with the Browns, but just fight for that
next team.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
So that's what I got to say. Just trying to
give my Browns some some hope, some love because your
door is gonna need it. You know what I'm saying
For these next couple of games coming up. I understand
what you're saying, but I don't know the feeling of
it because I've never been in that situation where you're
just playing for nothing. You know, Bobobo, you're supposed to
be my friend. I mean, can you I'm just saying,
(52:29):
I know you know what? You know what Debo Joe, Joe,
what Joe. You know what. That's why I know I'm
a real. I'm a real I am. I'm okay, Joe,
I'm gonnagg your house. You gonna my Wow. If you
don't want nobody egging your house, then you go egg
(52:49):
my house. I'm joking, Depot, I'm joking. You may me
feel some type of way. You just let's get this.
Let's get to the Super chat Man. Covenant Life is Bad.
Covenant Life seven seventy three nine to seven donated fifty dollars.
I said today on watching from Saint Louis. From Saint Lucia,
Oh oh, she said today she watching from Saint Lucia. Ooh,
(53:14):
send me some of that over here. Man that needs
a great dB camp. Please please start and prepare yourself
for the Steel Curtain Camp for Teenagers. Thank you. What's
the steal she say? Is she saying that we need
to throw camp? Please start and prepare yourself for a
(53:39):
for the Steel Curtain Camp for Teenagers. Thank you. Hope
to see you guys for the Steelers Baltimore game in January.
Are you ready for Miami? Of course, we are ready
for Miami. Yes, yes, yes, we are ready for Miami.
So are we to start a camp where she wanted
(53:59):
to start?
Speaker 2 (54:00):
She want It's either she wants us to start a
camp devot or she's inviting us to the still curtain camp.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
One of the two. We're gonna have to find out
letting to find out, you know what cover they is
gonna let us know, Yes, yes, coming to go. Let's
know we're still praying for you now, definitely always so uh.
Danny du Bois seventeen twelve. He donated fourteen bucks. He said,
Debo and Joe, you both have played for multiple teams.
(54:27):
Do you still care about the other teams? Or are
you both just black? And dude? You know we know,
we know Joe's answers. Go ahead, Joe, he does he
watch the show? You must not.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
You know I am split loyalties. I keep on saying it.
I got the Stealers and I got the Browns. I
love both. Now, Debo, what about you?
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Debo me? Huh Yeah, I'm black and gold all day?
You black and gold all day? You know I'm black
and gold all day. You ain't right going? So you
I ain't got got I ain't got no. You have
no loyalty to them? Up, I ain't got Nathan non
dollar zero. I ain't got you know what I'm saying.
I appreciate what they did for me. You said, okay,
I appreciate all that. Now look here. If we can't
(55:16):
get it, do I want one of them? GINTI yeah,
because I feel good about you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
you gotta like if it's me, if if the steal
the black and Gold against Cincinnati back and Gold England,
I gotta go black and gold. Now, if they ain't
(55:37):
in it, then I'm gonna go with the other. But
if we going, we're going, You're going black and gold. Okay,
no respect. Yeah, I got I got. I got to
go black and go. Look here, man, look Danny du
Boys came back. He said, hey, Joe, you gotta pick one.
He donated fourteen for this. You gotta pick one, Joe.
(55:58):
He said, How you gonna make me pick something? How
are you gonna make me pick something? I like both,
mister the boy, Hold on, Joe, what's up? Tell them?
I got your hat for you. So Geebo showing my hat.
(56:19):
I just hope that teams have fun that that that's
Joe right there, and and Covenant Life said she want
us to start the camp twenty. She says she wants
us to start the camp. We need to start the camp.
I'm more of a linebacker, but I'll help him out
if you want to start it though.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
You know, I'm good with the quick feet. I'm you know,
let me what's we're.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Gonna say something this off season. We'll figure something out, Debo.
We're gonna figure it out for show.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Fish and I'm not against that. I love I love
doing the look. I love the camps. I did a
couple of them things.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
You had you a good time over there in Saint Lucia.
Now look here, guys, we want to thank you for
joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe Hey,
please liking subscribe. We're gonna be back here on Friday
after Thursday night. Yes, sir, we're talking more football. And
you know what, I got two we got two sets.
(57:17):
The two tickets come on Debo Monday nine for about
us still as against the Miami Dolphins. And you know
what we don't like it? Dolphins. No, we train them
(57:38):
to do what we want, like Sea World, and we're
gonna be training some dolphins on Sunday. Oh sorry, on
Monday night. We go to night Dolphins on Monday night.
They getting them ready for us. We're having jumping through hoops,
we grab them doing things for us, like doing it. Joe,
(58:00):
you ain't lying, de Bo, you ain't lying. We're gonna
whoop the Dolphins on Monday and we're gonna talk about
it on Tuesday. Yes, sir, he me hoity mm hmm
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