September 9, 2025 • 62 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football which saw 2nd-year QB JJ McCarthy lead a stunning comeback vs. Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears. Later, they react to Shedeur Sanders being top 5 in jersey sales despite being inactive, New York Giants coach Brian Daboll sticking with Russell Wilson, and much more!
Timeline:
00:00 - Deebo's parenting story
18:22 - Vikings beat Bears
29:02 - John Harbaugh's blown leads
33:00 - Fan who his Lamar Jackson banned
35:26 - Injury stories
49:08 - Should Russell Wilson be benched?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to this episode The Debo and Joel. I'm your host,
James Debo Harrison, and here's my co host, Joe Hayden.
Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing. Man, listen, I'm feeling a whole
lot better right now. Last week was a little hectic,
but I want to let you know, Joe, I got
(00:25):
a hard out of twelve. I gotta give my son
to the very chamber to heal him up.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Bro Okay, respect, respect my son.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Today September ninth is my oldest boy, Joseph Ali Hayden,
the fourth ninth birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
He turns nine years old today.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Let's go come on man, Hey, birthday, Joe, thank you shout.
I was hectic last week, baby. I had two surgeries
last week, Bro, he had a lot going on. We
both served. My youngest son had a surgery. Sorry, My
oldest son had a surgery on Wednesday, and my oldest
son he had a surgery on Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Like it's like it was fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So my my son James, he did like a slap
tear in his.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
In thisscusy, go how's he doing? Oh? It went good.
It was good.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And then my oldest most sorry, my youngest son, he
did he blew out his his labor minutes in his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Dude. It's crazy, dude, it's you know what, Let me
rewind this.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So my oldest has had three surgeries in fourteen months. Dude,
likeplications of the other surgeries.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, dude, you know what, this our show? The hell
with it. I'm going somewhere else with this. So let's
start back at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So my son, the oldest, he's playing ball his freshman year.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Everything's going good.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
He gets into his sophomore year and you know, I
like to take my kids with me out to a
z to train, so I take him with me out there.
We come back his sophomore year. He as soon as
he gets back, he does like a hinkle spring, so
he sprinds his ankle. He doesn't take the time to
heal it, and he goes back out there and he
(02:17):
plays on it. So the second game of the season,
he goes out there and he actually like tears two
of the ligaments in his ankle and he blows his
sc joint, his sternal curvicular joint.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right where is that, dude, It's right here. It's right here.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So we actually got lucky with that process because it
went it went and tier instead of posterior, I believe,
because if that went the other way, then you know
you have a chance of it like hitting like his caroate, artery, juggler,
(02:57):
vein all that stuff right, getting bad. It's getting it's
getting bad, right, I don't know that that is what
has happened, you know. So he's he's not starting as
a sophomore, so he's playing Saturday, and you know, I
see him.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I'm like, dude, you can't move like you need to go.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You know, I need to take you to get in him,
all right, right, And he's like, no, no, no, I'll
be all right. You know, I don't know. I don't
want to get an MRI. I don't want to mispractice.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I don't want the coaches, you know, saying nothing. I'm like, okay,
all right, I'll let you make that decision. So as
the season goes on, we don't know. Like I said
about the s C and I have my chiropractic come in.
My chiropractor comes in every every so often, and he's like, hey, James,
and man, you need to. You need to look at this.
His s C is just circling. It's popping in and out.
(03:47):
So look at it. He played. After that, we don't
know he did it. He thought he had a stinger.
He's like, I gotta you know I got a stinger.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
He said, I tweaked my ankle. I'm like great, I'm like,
you ain't tweak your ankle. I'm like, you can't move.
I'm seeing him Saturday. I'm like, dude, you can't move
like you You're looking bad. I told him, I said,
you're looking like shit, son, you know. And I'm like, well,
I'm gonna let you tough through it. You you make
the decision, you know. So after he does that, my
my chiropractical looks at it. He tells him, you know,
(04:18):
you need to get it looked at him, like, hey,
we're going to get MMRI and while we're there, we're
going to get MRI on your ankle too. Right, So
we get to MRI. Come to find out he has
a couple uh touring ligaments uh in his ankle and
his sc is blown all that. Right, he's going to
he's going he's going to need surgery. Right, Well, what
(04:41):
we don't know at that time, is like how serious,
like it could have been. So he's trying to figure
out how he can't get surgery. So we have to
go to a thoracic surgeon, so a specialist, like that's
all he you know, he really does, he really does.
So we we talked to him and you know, Jane
really wants to continue to play, and he's like, dude,
(05:02):
you cannot continue to play football if you do not
get this fixed because it could it could literally kill.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So you know that now I think it's right before
the playoffs. So we're going, We're going into the playoffs
and till the coach a I'm pulling him. He can't
you know, he can't play. He can't finish the season.
You know, it's a game or two before the playoffs.
They going to the playoffs, they get to the championship game,
they end.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Up losing their their runners up.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So by this time, we're done figured out that James
has to get this surgery. You know what I'm saying,
It's no other choice. And it's a nine month timeframe.
So he done missed half sophomore year. He's gonna miss
the whole missed. Yeah, he missed all of his junior Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And and now you know, we know he has.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
To get the the rastic surgery in July, and he's
going to get the ankle surgery in September. So we
fast forward. He done lost so much weight, doe, he's
one hundred and fifty five pounds by then. Did he
start off when? How much he start off when he
first started? Not one ninety ninety okay, so he done
lost like forty pounds, you know, of weight. And by
(06:16):
time he's able to get back into it, you know,
we built, we built everything back up. We get we
get into it, and now he's two h five.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So his first day right right, right, So it's first
day of practice. Now it's April May. This is the
first time he's been clear to actually do any kind
of real movement on his ankle. And he gets in,
he's doing a little move and he feels something in
his ankle, so he kind of kind of walks it off.
The coach looks at him and says, hey, are you
(06:46):
all right? He says, you know, he said, well, if
you can't do the drill correctly, don't do it. So
that popped off. So I teach my kids don't say
nothing to a dogs James one on head. If you
got a problem, you come to me. So he got
out of practice. He comes to me. Now he tells
(07:06):
me this, and then he continues to tell me what
he hadn't told me over the course of the last
three years. See, I'm a parent, and I'm like, you
know what, I'm gonna sit back. I'm gonna stay out
the way, especially in this football because I don't want
these coaches feeling some kind of way. Yeah know everything,
all that other stuff, right, I'm gonna sit back. I'm
gonna do all that. So now he's telling me. From
(07:28):
the time he was a freshman, basically, they've been they've
been saying to him, you know, hey man, you need
to tough enough, you need to go harder, you need
to do more, all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Do they not know about his injury? No? No, no,
no they don't.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So so we can't blame. We can't blame.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We can't blame. We can't blame them for that if
they would have known, we can't. We can't. We can't
blame him for that. But my kids are tough. I
don't raise them. I don't raise you've been saying all
going through I can only imagine James exactly. So the
fact that you're even insinuating that it kind of obsessed me.
(08:02):
But I go ahead and I'm like, you know what,
he's like, Yo, I don't want to play no more.
I don't want to play here. I don't want to
be here like I'm doing that. I'm like, listen, let
me go talk to the coach. I got to insert
myself now. Yeah, I sit down. I talked to the
coach and uh, you know, I let him know, like,
you know, my son could have lost his life out there,
(08:23):
Like if that thing went the other way, we wouldn't
do nothing. He could have ut out on the field.
And on top of that, my son tells me that
he has an exit meeting with the equipment manager, and
the equipment manager tells him, with my son knowing they
don't know this, that he has to get this surgery
(08:43):
that's going to end this whole Junior year tells him,
you know what, I think you could have You could
have been you know, you could have toughed it out,
you could have you could have did more.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So so I'm telling the coach this we're going in
and I let him know. I said, you know, from
this point forward, I will no longer be sitting back.
I will be active. I will be present, I will be.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yes, I will be present.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So from that point forward, like I was already going,
I got to work on this ankle every day because
it's certain things that you need to do to make
sure you know it goes right and lost it, and
it's things that the normal training room is not going
to do for they don't even know to do. So
fast forward again, we get into his first game back
his senior year. He ain't played in the last you know,
(09:34):
two years basically, and he done miss half his sophomore,
all of his junior and now.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's game one. Dude.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
We get into game one and I ain't even lie.
I ain't never told my son he was he was.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He was good. But I was like, son, he was,
you know, he was doing good. He was doing good. Dude.
Now the second.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Half comes and he goes to cut and it's alignment
on him.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He's trying to make the tackle.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
He actually makes the tackle and his knee just bow
it bowls out right so at that same time, he
did his ankle and it's sc He told me his
knee hurt, you know, so he just said it hurt.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm gonna come back to that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So he goes and you know, I kind of see
the next play and I'm like, he ain't moving right now.
I know when my son ain't moving. Two three plays later,
they called me like, hey, you.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Some want you.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I come down there and he's like, you know, my
knee hurt. You know when I stepped it it you know,
it kind of went out and da. So you know,
we're sitting there. I'm like, I don't know what to
telling dude.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I am.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'm at a lost for words, dude. I'm like, God,
help me. I need something. I just it ain't got
to be now, but I need something, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah. So I'm sitting there, I get up, I go
back into the stand. You know, the game is. I
go down.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I grab his helmet and he says, hey, Dad, walk
behind me in the line.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think something about to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm like, okay, So I'm walking behind my son and
the line as they go do their thing, right, and
you know how kids are, they mouth and talking back
and forth. So walking behind in the line, the ad
grass me said, oh, hey, you can't be in the line.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I'm like, all right, cool, So I'm moving to the side.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So as I'm moving to the side, kids you know,
they going back and forth. They kids, you know, your coaches,
you get your kid, you know, tell them, hey, kill
it whatever. So as I'm walking through, I got so
far behind that my son can't see me. Here about
twenty yards ahead of me, and I see a grown
man coach.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He pointed. He's saying, that's him right there, that's him.
I said, Hey, who the fuck you pointing at? What?
Was he pointing at your son.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
For saying he was the one that was mouth and
off And that's the basically that's the one y'all need
to go get. I said, dude, you ever pointed mine again?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know you?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yes, I said, you're a grown ass man. Dude, you
go ahead and grab these kids. Let these kids mouth off,
get your get your own kids. Oh he went to crickets.
So now ad is trying to get me to leave.
They don'et got security and all this other stuff. So
I go ahead and I walk back. So I still
don't know what's up with James's ankle right, So I mean, sorry,
(12:25):
I still don't know what's up with james knee.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So we get back there and he's, uh, he's working
his knee and I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And I'm like, it's loose. I'm like that a cl
is loose. It's not you know how you get that
pop at the end. It's not doing that pop. So,
you know, I tell James, ay, go get dressed, you know.
Doctor said I don't know. You know, he's going to
have to get a looked at, you know. So I'm like, James,
go get dressed. So I'm like, DoD you know, that's
a loose dude, He said, I can't say for sure
(12:54):
that's gone. He said they had another kid that actually
tour his complete like that was that his was to
it was going like it was no question, James. He
couldn't say it for show for show. We couldn't say
it for show. Hey, it's maybe. So I leave and
as I'm leaving, you know, James come up to me
and he's like, it's like that, just tell me the truth.
(13:15):
I'm like, son, I don't know. You know, if I knew,
I would tell you, but I don't know. So we
go and uh, we get the we go and we
get the we get the MRI. Now I ain't a doctor,
but I played once sometimes.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay. So I'm sitting back there and I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The MRI and I'm like, dude, that's just a c L. Yeah,
I'm looking at him like it's is. Yeah, I can
see it, dude. I'm like, it's just a c L.
So he get out of the thing and I'm you know,
I'm just preparing him, you know. I'm like, hey, I
think from what I'm looking at, dude, it's your.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
A c L. And like that's you know, as we're
figure out out what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Figure it out, man, it's it's I mean, hey, you
get just got you gonna have to pray on it, dude,
like everything, you got to put it everything right now
in God's It's not gonna be guy, yes, no question.
So you know, we go back over after we get
the MRI and they put it up on the screen
(14:20):
and I'm looking at it, and uh, he sees it
up there, and he goes and started looks looking on
his phone and he looks and he's like, oh, yeah,
it's gone, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know, he ain't. He ain't lost it yet. He
ain't lost it yet.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So Doc comes in and Doctor is like, yeah, you know,
he calls for the guy that reason and he's like,
you know what about this?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And he's like, well, it's a meniscus. It looks like
a little it's a slack tear on the meniscus, and
you know, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And Doc's like, no, what about the you know what
about the a c L.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
He's like, yeah, it's it's scarred up. It's hell, he said, like,
it's scarred up as hill. At some point he tore
his a c O is scarred up in the hill,
the same game that he told me his knee hurt
where he messed up his ankle and he messed up
his sc He actually did a partial terror of his
a CL. So you you little man, bro, listen all
(15:24):
these injuries. He's fighting through the gangster.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So I go and uh, you know, he's sitting over there.
His Anxie's like what what what?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And I'm kind of giggling in my head because I
know what's going on. I know what's going on. And
the when he finally just sat down and was like yoh,
so this is what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You got a slap tear.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You're looking at maybe three to four weeks, and you
know you could be back at it.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
This dude dropped to his knees like he started eating
a man. Yeah, dude, he hugged me, and I'm like laughing,
but I'm laughing crying because.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm so happy. Oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It is like, what's going on? Are we okay? I'm like, Doc,
you know what, we are good, dude, We are real good.
And you know, at times like that, dude, like I.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Really lean heavy on the word. You know what I'm saying.
I lean to you right now.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What I do is I actually send my Son's scripture
in the morning after I.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do my reading in the morning, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And the more I get into the word, the closer
and the more of a relationship I build my Lord
and Savor. I was, I was baptized, and you know,
I accept my Lord and Savor and August of twenty four, dude,
and from that point forward, I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I can't think of anything that has given me more
comfort than that.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Dude. You know, I love it and for him, you know,
And at the time.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I'm just telling him, like, yo, you know you you're
being you're being attacked right now.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And this is not this is not this is not God.
This is that he's trying to pull you away. He's
trying to he's seeing that you're you're you're, you're getting
closer and he's trying to pull you away to get
you to be like you know what, this ain't working.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, it's working. Mm hm. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's it's always yes, it just may not be right now,
go through different things to build more faith.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You know what. That may not come when you want it. Yes,
be there right on time, no question, you know what
I'm saying. So I say all that to let them know.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Man. So after that game, the a D sent out
a letter like the coaches, you know, the players, they
can't be on the field anymore. I mean, well, parents
can't be on the field anymore, and all that other stuff. Right,
So you know me, I gotta let him know. I'm
gonna protect mine at all this all costs. And that's
(18:01):
what I said before. It's only two things that go
stop me from protecting mind. That's God in the grave.
He ain't never he ain't neither.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
One of them. He was.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I understand what demo good news is. Your good man
is good. My young man is good, yes, sir. And
we got prase and we.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Got some good ball, and we got some football. With
how it go? I go faith family football, Fay family football.
But let's go. Let's get to the football. Baby. We
got we got the Vikings, man, they are you.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Know what, it ain't even the Vikings man, It's another
team that squandered something in the fourth quarter. Dude, I
don't know what's going on with this week. Like you listen,
you got trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. Listen, man,
I'm gonna give credit. I'm gonna give it credit to
(18:55):
JJ man. Like you know, he staged to come back
for the Ages, you know, yeah, but he got some help. Man,
he got some help. You know what I'm saying. He's
the first starting quarterback with a ten plus fourth quarter
comeback in his NFL debut since Steve Young nineteen eighty five. Man, Yes,
the only he's the only such quarterback since nineteen fifty
(19:16):
to do it so on the road.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yes, yes, and he did it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But like thirteen of twenty one hundred and forty three
yards to touch.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And he still had a pick to the house. Bears,
how did you lose that game?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Man? This one I'm trying to tell you, James, You're
always gonna have winners and you're gonna have losers. At
the end of these games, you want the leader stayed
in with a win. The Bears find out a way
to lose. They find out the way to me. I
love Caleb first drive. He looks amazing. He's scrambling around
his line, not getting too much potentially nothing been.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Ready to jump on the bandwagon. Who he had met?
Ready to jump on the bandwagon?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Look it looked nice, right What nothing that the really
do is on time?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You know what I'm saying. Everything is ad living.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's moving, he's scrambling, he's getting around, he's extending plays.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Nothing's really too simple for him.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Drop back boom, I'm chilling, get the ball out everything
he's he's running for his life and extending plays and
making things go a little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
JJ McCarthy. The beginning of the game was not looking
good through the.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Pick six and the third look, but listen to what
I'm telling you. Listen what I'm telling you the way
that you just stay the float stay. Of course, his
coach JJ McCarthy and my good man Josh McCowan over
there back up the quarterback. He was a quarterback for
the Browns. He's not on the sideline. I think he
might be quarterback coach there. The way that they made
is simple for him. And when they went man and
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man in the fourth quarter, he started going to Justin Jefferson.
He threw the ball to the running back out of
the backfield, Aaron Jones, on the wheel route for the touchdown,
and then he used his legs. I just love the
fact how the Vikings they didn't give.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Up on him. He was not not don't give me
any stretch of imagine.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
JJD McCarthy played like Aaron Rodgers or any of those
other dudes.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But you said he did or said he did not.
He didn't work at all, not even Clay. Don't do that,
not even Cloak. I got I'm just heard, I said.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'm saying McCarthy, Ja j. He did what he had
to do to end up winning the game. In the
fourth quarter, they scored twenty one points. He did those drives.
I'm not at the beginning of the game. That was
sub par. That was sub par for sure, But the
Bears could have extended their lead, they could have won,
they could have figured it out. But when it got
to the end, when it got to the gritty, he
scored three touchdowns when they needed to get those touchdowns
(21:30):
and get out of the stadium, and the Bears found
a way to for nakel it and to lose it.
So my question, dude, them boys only had like a
seven percent chance of winning with one thirty four left
in the third quarter was seventeen sixteen, the fourth quarter
twenty one, fourth quarter twenty one points, brother twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So I just love.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean, I'm not going to I'm not praising like
he played amazing. The first quarters were not all that
in any stretch. He didn't do not fifty some yards
interception of pick six.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But in that fourth it needed to be done.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
He did whatever whatever that halftime message was that O'Connell
told JJ man bro like, I want to know what
he said, Like, listen.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He still came He came out of half and still
threw the pick six.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Hey, you know came out speech pick six boom.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
All right, we're still doing hey, listen, happen.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You got here, you go throw this pick six and
then you gonna take then you're gonna come back even better.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That for real?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You like, what's what's your best halftime speech you ever had?
Or did you even need that? The best halftime speech
I ever had? That was in college by Tim Tebow.
When we hear that a lot, t BO got words,
t BO got words, t BO got bars, and t
BO means when he say and that's why Rocker with
TBO was on, He's like, you mean, look at me,
We're the best sixty minutes for the rest of our lives,
(22:51):
for the rest of our lives. That was That's free game,
the best halftime speech.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You thought you thought you thought them sixty minutes after that,
y'all was just dead.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That's all the bad.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's all we had. I was gonna give him all
I had because I know he's gonna give me all
he had. Oh, no question, I think I think. I
think t BO was like the coldest college quarterback area.
I mean pros it is something different, you know what
I'm saying. That's a totally different that's a totally different
monster over there. Like dude, Caleb he just I think
he helped everything that they did, dude, Like first quarter, fire,
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second quarter up, fourth, third quarter, Uh, fourth quarter, dude, dude,
I think the last three quarters, dude, when what.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It was a couple of passes in the fourth I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, twelve of twenty thirty, he was.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Throwing great something like that shows flashes.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
He shows flashes all around of excellence, scrambling, throwing it
on the run, all different angles, putting the ball on
where it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But like you said, that fourth where he needs to
be due he missed.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I'm saying through the first three to the first three quarters,
we saw all that he was. But then in the
fourth we saw Aaron throws just over people's heads, things
that you just you just need to.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Make those passes.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And when I say that, but JJ McCarthy on the
fourth quarter, when he threw that wheel route to the
running back, it was perfect because he didn't even throw
it like make him go run and get it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
He's wide open.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Throw it so he can catch the ball and fall
into the end zone. You know what I'm saying, Like
just simple things like that is where Caleb just get
the ball into their hands.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
A lot of players. He does do great, but.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Then in the fourth it just started looking like I
don't know what it was, but some passing was just
flu flying out of his hands. Listen, man, how do
you go to be the number one pick dude of
your draft class? And now you're done lost to everybody
came at you, Daniels May and JJ.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
What are we talking about? Yeah, you're right, and he
was the number one pick. And I mean, I ain't
gonna lie the Bears.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's the Bears, like you acting like the Bears organization.
It's like, I don't I don't really like what they're
doing over there.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Man. They setting them up.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
They got them looking for crazy Dad Trubisky out there
looking crazy. They had just the fields out there looking crazy.
Now they got Caleb about there looking crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Hell, they had the field out there looking crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Dude, dude, feel yeah, they had the field out there
out there stamping down the field.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Right, patched up, patched up like the game. Like, Bro,
I don't know what they're doing. We had we had
a situation like that with the Steelers. Dude.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It was I want to say it was like two
thousand and seven Miami, and it well, you know they
they have like all those games playing like around that time,
and then Pitt plays on it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
They had the high schools playing on it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So what they did is they resided the field like
right after they had stopped the games on Saturday, and
then it rained, poured cats and dogs.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Bro, it was so bad. The punter kicked the ball
and the ball hitting.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The ground and just stayed there just like that, like
just like a golf shot, like a yes, dude. And
then like when you would go to cut, dude, like
if this was my foot right here, bro, like that
thing would be all the way up on my ankle, dude,
like on my own damn there close to my my shin, Dude,
Like my foot would be that deep into the into
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the mud when you was going to cut.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And that was that where that was. That was a
Heines field.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That was a Heines field they had resided. So what
they did is they I believe it ended up being
they sodded it for them and then they couldn't get
it removed, so they like kind of like sided on
top and then it poured rain like for the whole time,
like all the way through the game and all that. Like, dude,
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that was the worst.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But that was the worst field you ever played on.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
That's that's the worst. That was the worst field I'd
ever played on.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Dude, Okay, yeah one.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I mean I played in Chicago a couple of times
and their field is the grass is high and it's
kind of patchy, you know, so that that field is
just not I'm not not a fan of not a
fan of the Bears field.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm not a fan of turf.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I mean, I like I like turf, I like natural grass,
So my favorite. Do that bother you when you go
out there and you see like they ain't really taking
care of the field, I.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Mean, no, it doesn't affect me. In fact, I'm gonna
tell you. I'm gonna tell you this right now.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
When I see the field ain't taken care of and
it's like it's like muddy and saludy, I'm like, yeah,
they can't run that. That helps me. Like, look, I'm
a power through it. I'm gonna be guys, I'm gonna
be able to catch the ass.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm a cornerback. I'm a cornerback. My first thing I'm
thinking about is my footing. Can I can I fall?
Can I break? So I instantly need to go get
the seven studs. Yes, you got me in the grass.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And you got a terrible feel.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I gotta go get them seven studs with them long
so I know my feet no matter what. Dude's always
making fun of the seven stuffs. But if you're in
the grass, in the terrible field and you don't have
on seven stuffs, you're not gonna be sticking when you
stagger them things to give you that give you that
good grit o. First down on that big one on
the front, small one here, two big ones here, and
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then your your uh, your small ones in the back.
Like you got to stagger them things, man makes it.
It makes it so much easier to grip and get
onto that field. My coach, Keith Butler, Man, he taught
us that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Man. Oh yeah, the no bus was making sure go
put the seven studs.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah you have Butts, get you some Yeah, I have Bud,
get you some seven stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah you was here the one year. Yeah I have
but for the show love but.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah for sure. Man, that's that's dude. Butts is the best.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Linebacker coach I ever had.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I bet like I credit him with my career just
as much as I credit.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Without the two of them, there is no need to.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Butsy was a great good Bussy's hilarious, bro, He's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So let's get over here to the Sunday night loss
with the Ravens. So that Sunday night loss for the
Ravens was a seventh time since the start of the
twenty twenty two season that they have lost the game
while leading by double digits in the second half. Dude, Wow,
that's crazy, dude. They have blown seventeen such leads since
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John Harball became the team's coach. Hardball ignow that number
is too high, and he said the team has to
be really intentional when they find themselves in the position
in the future. Maybe part of it is we're ahead,
We're ahead a lot, and we have a lot of
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two point leads. I don't believe we need to really
I believe we need to really what is say? I
believe we need to really thoughtfully. What I can't see
it make it bigger.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
They need to be thoughtful of protecting leads. There we go.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I do believe we need to be really thoughtful of
how we approach the situation going forward.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Let's give it some time. Let's give it some thought.
Let's give it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Let's give some thought to the play calling. Let's give
some thought to the defense play calling. Let's give some
thought to my mind to our mindset. Yeah, it's everything
I told you. Y'all stopped calling plays. You started calling
plays to try and run the clock out. The defense
started playing soft, keep everything in front of you, and
they mindset was gone as soon as they got that
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what was it, twenty to twenty five or forty league,
They just thought it was going to be a pushover
and take off. You're only two scores away from actually
losing the game if they make two two point conversions.
Debo you speaking, You saying, he's saying, I don't we
need to be thoughtful and about protecting leads.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
No, you don't.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You need to keep on doing what you doing to
get the lead. Keep on trying to score, Stop trying
to play.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Talking about right here.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Play the win, don't play the lose. When you start
playing not to lose, then that's when you lose. You
gotta play to win the game. You get up in
the lead, don't start changing nothing up, keep going hard,
keep blittening them. Don't make it defense, get back and
get all protective. No, you know what I'm saying. Keep
blasting them right, Powell on dog, so you get soon
(31:30):
you get the chilling. They're gonna get to spanking you.
It's such thing as momentum. And soon you let a
dog get one.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Bite on you.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
All right, bet now we're getting. Now you in retreat mode. No,
don't never go and retreat, mister Harball. You have Derrick
Henry and Lamar Jackson. Don't slow them down. Keep going,
keep going, keep scoring. That's the way you're gonna protect
your lead. Make it bigger. Yeah, yes, that's the way
you protect your lead.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You make it bigger. You don't sit there and hold
on to it. This ain't like it's two minutes left
and they ain't got no time out. No, you're gonna
got a whole quarter.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And y'all, y'all just seeing him go down there and
get a field goal in less than twenty seconds at
the end of the half.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Down there, stop you stop? What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
What he's saying, man like that don't make no sense
at all. That's why I love Jim Harborough. He's a
great coach. But what he's saying out of his mouth
right that I just don't agree with like just keep
going hard, like we need to be thoughtful of protecting
the lead. No, you need to be keep trying to murder,
keep trying to score, keep trying to sack, strip fumble,
keep trying to get more points. Yeah, I think just
(32:31):
I think he might have used the wrong word and
he came back and said they need to change the
play calling and all that thoughtful of protecting. You know,
that's that's more of like, Yo, I'm gonna hold onto this.
I'm not trying to get more. I'm not trying to
make more.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That's like somebody's like, you know, I'm I'm let me
just go hold on to my money. I ain't gonna
invested in trying to get more of you know, I'm
just gonna protect it like it's gonna be safe right here. Yeah,
I'm not. No, I gotta I gotta invest it into
into something that's gonna make me more.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
The fan who hit d Hopping and Lamar on the
helmet last night has been in definitely banned from the
bill stadiums.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
According to Adam Scheffner.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, keep your hands and your feet to yourself.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Fans still listen I still say they should have pressed
charges on I know what you're saying, Debo. You ready
for him to get locked up. If they did it,
the fan would have went and pressed some charge.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
If you would have took off, if you would have
took off on the fan first and d pushed me
much of them, dude, Cardi b oh, yeah, try to
get her for twenty Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he would have.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
She would have for he would have.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
She was just saying some words to her that wasn't
even talking about whooping on her either, just asked her
what she was doing with some other you know, other
language to it.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah. Well, like I hope, I.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Hope this less fans know your ass ain't gonna be
able to come to no more games you put your
hands on people.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
You can still watch. You can still watch on TV.
Oh that's lovely though, de Bo. I mean you can't
be present. This is gonna take you. You can watch
on TV, drink and all that. Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I need more of a penalty, man, because we would
get more of a penalty.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I need them to get that same penalty. We need
the same penalty when they need my penalties.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
We speak about penalties, but man, he might not even
get suspended for spitting. What your man, I might not
even get suspended for spitting. Hey, I ain't gonna lie
to you, bro, he might we talk when when I
think about it, my first start happened because uh, Joey
Parter spin on.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I believe it was William Green.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
So pregame, pregame spit in Cleveland, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, pregame.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Spit fight all that. Pasy.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Wow, man, look pasy. I appreciate you, baby, give me
my first start. That was two thousand and four. Yeah,
got me my first start, for sure. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
That was back in the day. Huh, that was back
in the day. We're trying to say, joe, oh my bad.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I'm just feeling I'm feeling some time where I felt
like I felt like I felt like I felt like.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
An old like like no no, no, no, no no
no photo. Yeah, that was dead. That was back before
my time, ye before you Okay, okay, I ain't gonna
crash out. You know what I'm saying. Who what else got? Devot?
And what else I got?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah? All right, man, let me see what I got
going on here? Take me where I need to be.
So let's get it to uh Kittles Man Kittles. He
Uh reportedly is expected to be sidelined for multiple weeks
after suffering their hamstring injury during Sunday's win over Seattle.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Do that's wild. They're gonna need him. They're gonna need him,
I mean, especially now. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I hope Christian McCaffrey stays hell this whole season, because
that dude is a ball on once he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But if they lose Kittles beat more McCaffrey, you know what,
he lost two weeks. He lost two games last year
with a hamstring. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You know these guys that that that, like, yeah, soft
tissue injuries. I don't think they understand. It's like a
it's a muscle imbalance. It's either for him, he's probably
he's doing hamstrings. He's probably a guy that's quad dominant.
If he strengthen the squads and get them closer to
the balance of yeah, the balance of his hamstrings.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He won't he you know, he won't. He won't pull
a quads.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And you know, especially like in the first you know,
a couple of weeks of the season, you get a
lot of guys with soft tissue injuries. And it's just
you know, either imbalance or it's a a combination of
an imbalance with fatigue. Because you got these guys, like said,
you get in the preseason. Nobody really plays in the
preseason at all.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know what I'm saying. You lucky if you get
you know, ten snaps in the preseason game now and
you get all live reps.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Right then you go out there week one and even
the reps like you said, you get, they're not one
hundred miles an hour. And then you go out there
week one and you tell your body, hey, I need
you to give me forty fifty reps out one hundred
miles an hour for sure. Right, They're like, Yo's what's
going on? And then they wonder why they get these
soft tissue injuries. And a lot of guys don't train
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like that anymore, you know, Like you know, when I train,
people are like James, why are you sitting up there
pushing a you know, a two thousand pounds said, I'm
putting attention on my achilles, thees I'm building up to
that I make sure I'm getting that, Like I don't
start at two thousand I've built up to that through
the course of you know, my training, so that when
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it comes time to actually do that and press on it,
it's used to it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So it's not going to just go and you know,
give out on yep.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, like you're pushing on them line and like leaning
on them. That's two thousands you trying to get them
up off you and you want. Ah, that's a lot,
that's a lot of weight Yoh, they're thinking about putt
him on the temporary are where you got to be
out at least four weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
What is that on Kittle? Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Ian Rapperport reported that Kittle would likely be sidelined three
to five weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
He sure he ain't tear that thing. That's more than
just a little strain. That's definitely more than a strain.
That thing off the bone. No, yeah, all out there. No,
I'm not trying to get him out off the bone. No.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I hope, I swear, I hope it's not. I want
him to be okay. I want to come back as
soon as possible. Oh, no question, you know a few
weeks with a little handy.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Hey you ever pulled a handy? Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And they long. Uh I was about I was about
three weeks, three weeks to yeah, three weeks, yo, So
I don't I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I don't think nobody knows this because I've never told anybody.
So when I jumped over Ladani and Thomas and uh
San diego h that was another spot start I got,
like in who with a two thousand and ford That
might have been the same year I pulled my groin
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and I didn't miss no time.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I just kept playing through it. People, you were crazy,
I had Hey, I just.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Got soft tissue work, I got, I got some back.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
You probably got some dry immediately, dude, And I just
kept going with it. B I tried that. I played
on the string growing for two weeks, but then my joint.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Actually I had to get surgery on both both sports hernians,
both both growings double sports.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
An your joint. Yeah yeah, yeah, that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
What you must not You must not have been really
doing the doing the care. The salt tissue worked with that,
I knew all the crazy work until it happened, and
then when it happened, the other one happened, and then
the off season.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
But it was good. I once I got surgery on them.
I was solid until now until I retired.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Now my left growing acting a little crazy, but I
don't need to get from zero to sixty in full
speed right now, so I'm still solid.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm trying to tell you when you retire, listen, bruh.
I donet have most surgeries since I got done. Hey,
and I did while I was playing.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Bro. No, I'm not letting no, Bro, that's the car.
That's why I had to get up out of there.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
When I got up out of there, I started being like, Man,
if I keep going, I might be a little messed
up where I can't run and move the whey I
want to. So, I mean it was right around this time.
That's why I still got my left growing. My left
growing is still not to one hundred percent. Like I
can't do certain stretches. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
There's normal stretches, but I can make it shake, you
know what I'm saying. Like if I had have played
another year, boy, I might need to get another whole
surgery for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
In my growing, I felt the same way about my back, dude,
And then through the process of actually doing this goes
some crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Dude doing a food sensitivity allergy test.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I ended up finding out like I was severely, severely
like allergic to eggs, not to where I would blow up,
but to where my body had an inflammatory response.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah. So after I you did the all CAT Yes, brother,
I need so after I.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
After I did that, you know, my doc had been
telling me for a minute, like yo on my naturally,
like you need to stop eating egg stop eating eggs,
stopping the eggs.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I'm like, dude, that's the only thing I eat. What
else I'm gonna eat? I'm eating.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
You know, it doesn't have it doesn't half eggs a day.
So at that point, you know, to get out of bed, dude.
You know, after the two back surgeries, I'd be on
my you know, hands and knees, just sitting there warming
up and then go hit the shower and then you know,
take off the practice. And I finally listened and I stopped,
and within like six months, all of a sudden, I
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was popping out of bed, dude, like popping out of bed,
just going and I'm energy.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
So you're not normally you wasn't normally a morning person
eating all them eggs? No, No, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I had the energy, but it was the the inflammatory
response on my back that was killing me where I
had to warm up and start getting things moving and
get that get that inflammation out of there. Okay, Oh,
I'm gonna pop up and rise. I'm a three o'clock dude.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Every day, I get it. I get I get them
every day. Well not every day you go to sleep, debo,
what time you go to sleep? If youre waking up
at three days, I'm.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Telling you right now, it's murdering me with these night games, bro, Like,
it's murdering me with these Now I'm getting like two
three hours of sleep, hitting the gym, coming back through,
doing everything I need to do. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
I just some days. You for what, Actually I only
need probably like I'm a I used to be a
(42:57):
four to six guy. I'm probably more like a five
to six guy. But I could function a good week
and a half two weeks on, you know, three to four.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
So I'm good. It's only a couple of days and then.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I'll get I'll get some sleep. I'll get some sleep tomorrow.
So okay, okay, I can sleep in. Yeah, I get
to sleep in until five. You know, that's sleeping in.
So come Saturday and Sunday, I sleep until five. Monday
through Friday is three o'clock. And it keeps Yeah, it
keeps going from there. Brother, I'm probably I'm like, I'm
like six o'clock. I'm always up at six. I got
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the kids and everything, so I probably at six o'clock
every day, even even on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Sunday.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Sunday we got church, so you know, I'm up at
six o'clock on it. But Saturday I might try to
sleep in.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
But the kids, they don't.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
They the alarm clock, they gonna wake up like especially
on Saturday. They want to act like they won't wake
up earlier because they know they don't got school, so
they don't care.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
They might wake up at five. They ready for whatever
on Saturday. Man, your kids young.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
My kids are nine and with my boy just turned
nine today. And my boy Jet is a six.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Man, my youngest.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
That dude that gets sixteen hours if you let him,
I promise you, dude, he got like my brother kid
sleeping man like he will he This dude will come
home from school, go to sleep and won't wake up
until he got to use the bathroom and if he
(44:28):
got homework and he'll.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Wake up like like five o'clock before he got to
go to school to get it done. Liked. Oh he's sleeping,
sleeping this dude, sleep sleep. Oh that's and hearn when
he don't sleep. Sleep.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
You could you can finding, you know, three o'clock in
the morning up there with the headphones on.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
What are you doing with the headphones on? Man? He
playing the damn game on the sticks? Okay, okay, he
wanted them. He wanted those. U what's the computer games
they play? Dude?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
They got these Fortnite. I don't know, man, they got
these computers cross cost the arm in the leg and
tell me about it. They've got their I pass right now,
so they I'm chilling. I still got no gaming systems
for them. But we got the PS five. Just do
the two K, you know what I'm saying, and the
matt maybe a little FIFA okay, you know what I'm saying.
(45:25):
None of the crazy games yet. Grant Arismo maybe you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Car games, my boy, Joey's what's growing to Arismo, dude,
Grand Arismo. Bro.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
We got the racing car simulated game with like the
driver and the gas pedal and the and the shifters
Grand it's a whole setup. It's a whole setup. You
can get a whole setup. I got a whole cage
like I'm riding the NASCAR.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, you got you gotta to ashow me. I'm gonna
show you that I'm a driver. You know what I'm saying.
I got, I got my cd LS. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I could if you if y'all need somebody out there,
I got. I got pasted during endorsement. Really so I'm
I'm a Class B driver. I could drive school buses.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
You know. I was thinking about driving the school buses.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Go ahead and tell them kids, sit you ass on
down now.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I'll be scared to help you with my bus driver.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Hey, listen for real, though, this is what I was
thinking about doing. I don't even know if they would
have let me, but I wanted to. I wanted to
go and be the driver like one of my sons
buses like one time, and like had him had me
right there. If you got your license, if you got
the CD I got past your endorsements, go talk to
(46:37):
the bus driver. Hit sub you in boom. You know
I mean to tell me right in bomb hold it down.
I did all that like in college, dude. I got
my CDLs in college, so that smove.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I was a bus driver before you know, I had
set out. Well, I didn't sit out.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
I had to. I didn't have the grades to be eligible.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I was a prop forty eight, so you know, well,
I don't even know if y'all have proper then you're
a little.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Younger than me.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
So yeah, when you couldn't do nothing with it, you
couldn't do nothing with the team. They didn't pay for
your education or nothing. You just went to school, okay.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And then I messed that up, So now I have
to pay for another year? What do you now? And
then the coaches champ. Yeah. I ended up walking on
at Kent State with my good man Josh Cribs at quarterback.
Served well. He came in my senior year, Josh, Josh
like younger.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Okay, Debo, you're just putting years on yourself, right you
grown man, Debo?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
You don't care you look you look. I told her,
I thought you I thought you was I thought you
was like forty two.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Nah, no, bro, I'm I'm closer to fifty than I
am the fourth, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Closer to I'm thirty six, closer to what you started there, huh,
close to closer to my dad's age, Debo. I'm not
gonna lie. I think you might be a little bit
closer than my dad age than me. How old is
your dad? Fifty six? Hold? Are you thirty six? Yeah?
(48:15):
I think you might be nine years. I think you
might be closer to.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Hey, man, you need to watch how you talk to
your elders. Now, that's why I've been talking to you.
Time show some respects, called your dad time. Go on
ahead over there and whip your ass.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Boy. Oh do your stup? You stup? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
No, but for real, though, you is a little closer
to propers than me, probably just a bout one year.
But look, all right, but your dad turned fifty seven
this year. He No, he just he turned fifty six
this year.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
You turn I.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Turned thirty seven when April fourteenth? All right, I ain't tripping,
all right, look, debo. So yeah, you're close to my
dad to me. We got that established. Let's talk about
Russell Wilson. Hey, he's still starting, definitely still starting. But
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like you know, like you were saying.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
He getting he's getting getting another week.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
He getting getting close to you know, if he don't,
if he don't do something, he getting close to going ahead.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
And but you cann be sitting back there.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
But like you said of Debo, they don't want to
throw out the new man and just get him beat
up because Russell Wilson was running for his life out there.
So we don't want to throw out the new guy, Jackson,
the dark h who we got. We don't want to
throw a new quarterback out there and then he just
starts getting hit just like Russell will. So we want
to put Russell out there, the vet, you know what
(49:53):
I'm saying, so he can try to try to just
be able to get the line blocking for him, because
you don't who no matter who's back there, if you
if you switch out Russell and put the other guy,
he's going to keep getting hit. So at the same time,
you jo you don't want to put your rookie quarterback
out there in a situation where you know he's not
in a position to win, and at least not this early.
It's only game two. Like, let's see what Russell can
(50:15):
do with this offense. Bill try to get milite neighbors
into the game. You know what you got there. But
protecting the quarterback is thing one, and Russe's a vet.
So I wouldn't throw my young dude out there to
be getting hit upside the head this early. Yet, you know,
you know, like Russ even you know when he was
with the Steelers last year, you know, he gets a
(50:35):
you know when when he get a little unsure, he'd
rather he'd rather throw it closer to it being out
than it being in.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Especially you know when you.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Got those those you know, defenders close to him and
it's like, you know, one of those sideline throws.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, I didn't especially like as it got deeper into
the season, I started I started noticing that, or at
least that.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Was my view of it. You know, what would you
what was your view of it? Did you?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I like the way I mean the one thing that
Russell was doing, the idea kind of like at least
he was giving the receivers opportunities.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I mean, just throw that. He threw some good fat
balls to George when he was there, and that's what. Yeah,
but it was some that just like, yo, you didn't
even give him opportunity. It's just bond. I know, I know,
I know, I mean that was the thing. I mean,
normally he thought.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Normally that's his best that's his best pass he does
it is the goball and to give the dudes ops.
But I don't know he was throwing them out of
bound sometimes it just it didn't look it didn't look
Russell like, hopefully he doesn't do that like I saw this.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
It didn't look Russell like.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I ain't. Like I said, Russell was a good dude.
But Russell been looking Russell the Russell that were looking
at if he's been looking like that but since Denver.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, but I just like, like I said too though
he didn't look too like.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
This is how you're going to say the man. If
you don't have no time to throw the ball, how
you going to greater man? Hey, you time to throw
the ball. Look at Aaron Rodgers. He was getting that
thing out of there, very little time to throw the ball.
He made the decisions. He made decisive decisions.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
All out when he needed to play calling. Play calling.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, in a position to win, can we give wrestled
some options where you can get it out faster?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
We got deep, we got deep routes.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Why is he not getting it out faster or is
he just holding on to it for fear of it
being a pick because he's unsure. Could be both, could
be both. There's two ways to skin a cat. That's
that's for sure. But I mean to say, I mean,
he's a veteran quarterback, like if nothing else.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
You should be able to just see it and getting dumb.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, I think right now they're gonna least they're going
to keep him in there, give him another shot to
do better before they put Darling there, because they put
Dart in there right now.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I don't. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
I'm gonna be honest, dude, I don't see him putting
Dart in there until like they don't. They don't want
at least I'm with you, like three four deep, like
you can't. Like you said, he's he's being pressured. Your
your rookie quarterback is not going to make more decisive
decision unless he is you know, actually a better actually
(53:23):
a maker can see it better. It's more decisive with it.
But you know, you start getting into games where you
got these deep coordinates. You get this rookie in here,
and what's the first thing they do you start throwing
everything at you know, everything in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Sink to confuse him. You know, you disguise it.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
You know you you're gonna do different things like when
you know coach lebou we would play a rookie quarterback,
dude or disguise game is on point and you're trying to.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Confuse him, you know, every which way.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
No, I get that, I get that, But at the
same I mean, Jackson Dark, he he could he could
be better.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Like he didn't look he didn't look bad.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
I mean, obviously it's the preseason, but he was throwing
the ball, He's getting it out of his hands fast.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
They picked him before he was a hot he was
what was it first What round did Dark go in?
Was it first round? I think the first round?
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, so he was definitely went before Shador so they
seen something in them. Yeah, but I'm just not too
big on the Giants. So it's kind of like, I mean,
he darts back there, Wilson's back there. It's going hopefully
they hopefully they is the head coach and in New
York and Giants is it day bo bron coach Davo,
(54:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
I don't know him. By he was my he was
a coach for me.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I think he was an offensive coordinator for the Browns
when I was there in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
But so he drafted, well, yeah, obviously he drafted dark.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Listen, at some point, everybody goes to start having to
think about, uh, you know, making sure they protecting their job,
the decisions that they made, and drafting this person. The
first rounder is supposed to come in and contribute to
the team that year, right, that's why you put him first?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Was? I think quarterbacks are a little tricky. ID any other.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Position besides the quarterback, they' supposed to be instant starter baller,
and the quarterback, even if he's not ready, you're projecting
if you draft him in the first round, that he's
going to be a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
That's what I'm expecting. If I draft a quarterback in
the first round. I don't know. I'm thinking I think
he might he might get a crash.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Course, so to speak, and uh, yeah, it might have
to happen for sure, because if Russell keep getting hit
like this like they was, I was looking on Instagram
and I I gotta I'm gonna pull up some clips
when they showed like They was like, oh they want
dark to start because nobody they just had free runs
out of them a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Okay, I don't like it. Joe.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Before we got out of here, we got our first
super chat. Joe, what super chat? Big old head donat
bag bag on Head donated five dollars and said, James,
I was at the Dolphins game in two thousand and seven.
(56:29):
The field was horrible. I think John Beck played quarterback
for Miami. Score was three to nothing. Stellers, right, that
sound right? That does sound right? That good man?
Speaker 2 (56:42):
There we go. What's his name? I think that was.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Bag on Head donate, that's that's just I guess that
must be his his chat name. His chat name is
bag on Head. While your bag on Head man?
Speaker 2 (56:57):
You a Browns fan? Oh no?
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Oh, I hope shots fired. You can't call me old
think I ain't gonna shoot back? The old think I
ain't gonna shoot back. That's ma Mama's son, play that.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
Man. Oco.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
John donated two dollars and said Fellas still has just shine.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Julian Java Peppers. No, they didn't, did they Jabril Peppers?
They signed him? Are you sure that's nice?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
I played with Jabil in Cleveland when he got drafted there.
That's a football player.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, but where did they play? That's the big thing,
Like like where it don't matter. I mean, like we
can have him at safety.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
We can have him at safety or slot, nickel or
either strong whatever whatever opposite where Jalen's at.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Slide him down. He could blitz nickelback or.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Safety, Nickel safety, Nickel safety. To show nickel safety, I
say safety. I don't know about nickel. The only reason
I say nickel just he's gonna be cover. He can
cover tight ends and he can blitz. He's a tackler,
like the way we use Mike Hilton. Like still, let's
use debrill like Mike Hilton that man, I'm not that that.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
Would be nice. Mm hmm. He's tackling, bro.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
That's the month thing, Like we need some people that's
in that joint filling up some of these holes.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Hey, man, you no bag onhead.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
He a Dolphins fan, bro, and he donated, Bro, he
donated five dude, we can't you know, I mean, everybody
got they faults.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
You know, I mean I like that.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I'm here, I'm here, I'm here for it. I'm yeah,
it's okay, you know what I'm saying. Appreciate it. I
appreciate the information, though. I think that was the three
nothing game or was it three or six?
Speaker 2 (59:00):
I got one, I got got I'm not gonna check
that out. I got somebody gotta check that out. But
I got one. I got something I want to talk about, right, Oh,
hold on what time we got? Oh? It's twelve on
one people, I got I got last one.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
NBA MVP Shady Gooders Alexander says that there's no way
he could play in the NFL. Which NBA players do
you think could play in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Or and vice versa? Who you think, James? You know what, man?
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I would want to say that somebody could, but they
so tall, man, you gonna get cut down. Only reason
why I'm saying is like I think, so say, but
say six how tall is the How tall was Jimmy
Graham tight end when he was playing for the Saints.
He was like six seven sixty okay, seven okay? So
(59:51):
I'm looking at you. Put Braun at tight end at
six eight to sixty. I don't know, like you know
what I'm saying, Megatron, it was six five two fifty
like and then just depending on.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Okay, I think BRONC. I think bron could do it
for show.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I think even I think maybe Anthony Edwards might be
able to do it and play safety or something because
I just like his aggressiveness.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
If Derrick Rose played football, I think Derrick Rose might
have been able to do it. I know a I
would have been able to do it. Yeah, he did it.
He did it. He was number one in both He
could have just went and he went the right way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
And then with basketball, who do I see that could
play in the NBA that plays in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Maybe see that? See that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
That's gonna be the tough part because we're gonna need
like a they're they're tall, so we're gonna need somebody
that's like a wire, like somebody like can like could
Calvin play shooting guard? You know what I'm saying, six five,
two fifty. But then he has to be good at basketball. Ay,
it's probably a quarterback, a quarterback to run the one
(01:01:00):
or I don't know what they're gonna run, but it's
gonna have to be a quarterback because these quarterbacks actually
be good at shooting the ball because they I'm just
telling you, like you ever seen being played basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, you can shoot. He got Tredeballa, he got trade ball.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
And you know who else, Dude, I take it back, Keysel, Dude,
Bret Kezel young, Bret Kezel Man. I think Bret Keysel
was a Mcdonaldsall American back in the day in high school.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Torel prior, okay to real prior. You know what, I
ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I'm gonna throw. I ain't gonna throw my you know what. No, No,
you're gonna throw yourself in there. I'm gonna throw my
hat in the bucket. No, no, yeah, bro, you know
who I'm guard. You know what, look at I'm gonna
be out that thing like.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Hey man, we want to thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Guys for doing us, because Joe about to sit here
and tell them some lies. Man, Thank you guys for
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Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Don't want to miss nothing, man, I believe you though.
S two S eight
Welcome to this episode The Debo and Joel. I'm your host,
James Debo Harrison, and here's my co host, Joe Hayden.
Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing. Man, listen, I'm feeling a whole
lot better right now. Last week was a little hectic,
but I want to let you know, Joe, I got
(00:25):
a hard out of twelve. I gotta give my son
to the very chamber to heal him up.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Bro Okay, respect, respect my son.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Today September ninth is my oldest boy, Joseph Ali Hayden,
the fourth ninth birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
He turns nine years old today.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Let's go come on man, Hey, birthday, Joe, thank you shout.
I was hectic last week, baby. I had two surgeries
last week, Bro, he had a lot going on. We
both served. My youngest son had a surgery. Sorry, My
oldest son had a surgery on Wednesday, and my oldest
son he had a surgery on Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Like it's like it was fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So my my son James, he did like a slap
tear in his.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
In thisscusy, go how's he doing? Oh? It went good.
It was good.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And then my oldest most sorry, my youngest son, he
did he blew out his his labor minutes in his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Dude. It's crazy, dude, it's you know what, Let me
rewind this.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So my oldest has had three surgeries in fourteen months. Dude,
likeplications of the other surgeries.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, dude, you know what, this our show? The hell
with it. I'm going somewhere else with this. So let's
start back at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So my son, the oldest, he's playing ball his freshman year.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Everything's going good.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
He gets into his sophomore year and you know, I
like to take my kids with me out to a
z to train, so I take him with me out there.
We come back his sophomore year. He as soon as
he gets back, he does like a hinkle spring, so
he sprinds his ankle. He doesn't take the time to
heal it, and he goes back out there and he
(02:17):
plays on it. So the second game of the season,
he goes out there and he actually like tears two
of the ligaments in his ankle and he blows his
sc joint, his sternal curvicular joint.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right where is that, dude, It's right here. It's right here.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So we actually got lucky with that process because it
went it went and tier instead of posterior, I believe,
because if that went the other way, then you know
you have a chance of it like hitting like his caroate, artery, juggler,
(02:57):
vein all that stuff right, getting bad. It's getting it's
getting bad, right, I don't know that that is what
has happened, you know. So he's he's not starting as
a sophomore, so he's playing Saturday, and you know, I
see him.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I'm like, dude, you can't move like you need to go.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You know, I need to take you to get in him,
all right, right, And he's like, no, no, no, I'll
be all right. You know, I don't know. I don't
want to get an MRI. I don't want to mispractice.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I don't want the coaches, you know, saying nothing. I'm like, okay,
all right, I'll let you make that decision. So as
the season goes on, we don't know. Like I said
about the s C and I have my chiropractic come in.
My chiropractor comes in every every so often, and he's like, hey, James,
and man, you need to. You need to look at this.
His s C is just circling. It's popping in and out.
(03:47):
So look at it. He played. After that, we don't
know he did it. He thought he had a stinger.
He's like, I gotta you know I got a stinger.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
He said, I tweaked my ankle. I'm like great, I'm like,
you ain't tweak your ankle. I'm like, you can't move.
I'm seeing him Saturday. I'm like, dude, you can't move
like you You're looking bad. I told him, I said,
you're looking like shit, son, you know. And I'm like, well,
I'm gonna let you tough through it. You you make
the decision, you know. So after he does that, my
my chiropractical looks at it. He tells him, you know,
(04:18):
you need to get it looked at him, like, hey,
we're going to get MMRI and while we're there, we're
going to get MRI on your ankle too. Right, So
we get to MRI. Come to find out he has
a couple uh touring ligaments uh in his ankle and
his sc is blown all that. Right, he's going to
he's going he's going to need surgery. Right, Well, what
(04:41):
we don't know at that time, is like how serious,
like it could have been. So he's trying to figure
out how he can't get surgery. So we have to
go to a thoracic surgeon, so a specialist, like that's
all he you know, he really does, he really does.
So we we talked to him and you know, Jane
really wants to continue to play, and he's like, dude,
(05:02):
you cannot continue to play football if you do not
get this fixed because it could it could literally kill.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So you know that now I think it's right before
the playoffs. So we're going, We're going into the playoffs
and till the coach a I'm pulling him. He can't
you know, he can't play. He can't finish the season.
You know, it's a game or two before the playoffs.
They going to the playoffs, they get to the championship game,
they end.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Up losing their their runners up.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So by this time, we're done figured out that James
has to get this surgery. You know what I'm saying,
It's no other choice. And it's a nine month timeframe.
So he done missed half sophomore year. He's gonna miss
the whole missed. Yeah, he missed all of his junior Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And and now you know, we know he has.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
To get the the rastic surgery in July, and he's
going to get the ankle surgery in September. So we
fast forward. He done lost so much weight, doe, he's
one hundred and fifty five pounds by then. Did he
start off when? How much he start off when he
first started? Not one ninety ninety okay, so he done
lost like forty pounds, you know, of weight. And by
(06:16):
time he's able to get back into it, you know,
we built, we built everything back up. We get we
get into it, and now he's two h five.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So his first day right right, right, So it's first
day of practice. Now it's April May. This is the
first time he's been clear to actually do any kind
of real movement on his ankle. And he gets in,
he's doing a little move and he feels something in
his ankle, so he kind of kind of walks it off.
The coach looks at him and says, hey, are you
(06:46):
all right? He says, you know, he said, well, if
you can't do the drill correctly, don't do it. So
that popped off. So I teach my kids don't say
nothing to a dogs James one on head. If you
got a problem, you come to me. So he got
out of practice. He comes to me. Now he tells
(07:06):
me this, and then he continues to tell me what
he hadn't told me over the course of the last
three years. See, I'm a parent, and I'm like, you
know what, I'm gonna sit back. I'm gonna stay out
the way, especially in this football because I don't want
these coaches feeling some kind of way. Yeah know everything,
all that other stuff, right, I'm gonna sit back. I'm
gonna do all that. So now he's telling me. From
(07:28):
the time he was a freshman, basically, they've been they've
been saying to him, you know, hey man, you need
to tough enough, you need to go harder, you need
to do more, all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Do they not know about his injury? No? No, no,
no they don't.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So so we can't blame. We can't blame.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We can't blame. We can't blame them for that if
they would have known, we can't. We can't. We can't
blame him for that. But my kids are tough. I
don't raise them. I don't raise you've been saying all
going through I can only imagine James exactly. So the
fact that you're even insinuating that it kind of obsessed me.
(08:02):
But I go ahead and I'm like, you know what,
he's like, Yo, I don't want to play no more.
I don't want to play here. I don't want to
be here like I'm doing that. I'm like, listen, let
me go talk to the coach. I got to insert
myself now. Yeah, I sit down. I talked to the
coach and uh, you know, I let him know, like,
you know, my son could have lost his life out there,
(08:23):
Like if that thing went the other way, we wouldn't
do nothing. He could have ut out on the field.
And on top of that, my son tells me that
he has an exit meeting with the equipment manager, and
the equipment manager tells him, with my son knowing they
don't know this, that he has to get this surgery
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that's going to end this whole Junior year tells him,
you know what, I think you could have You could
have been you know, you could have toughed it out,
you could have you could have did more.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So so I'm telling the coach this we're going in
and I let him know. I said, you know, from
this point forward, I will no longer be sitting back.
I will be active. I will be present, I will be.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yes, I will be present.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So from that point forward, like I was already going,
I got to work on this ankle every day because
it's certain things that you need to do to make
sure you know it goes right and lost it, and
it's things that the normal training room is not going
to do for they don't even know to do. So
fast forward again, we get into his first game back
his senior year. He ain't played in the last you know,
(09:34):
two years basically, and he done miss half his sophomore,
all of his junior and now.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's game one. Dude.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
We get into game one and I ain't even lie.
I ain't never told my son he was he was.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He was good. But I was like, son, he was,
you know, he was doing good. He was doing good. Dude.
Now the second.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Half comes and he goes to cut and it's alignment
on him.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He's trying to make the tackle.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
He actually makes the tackle and his knee just bow
it bowls out right so at that same time, he
did his ankle and it's sc He told me his
knee hurt, you know, so he just said it hurt.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm gonna come back to that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So he goes and you know, I kind of see
the next play and I'm like, he ain't moving right now.
I know when my son ain't moving. Two three plays later,
they called me like, hey, you.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Some want you.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I come down there and he's like, you know, my
knee hurt. You know when I stepped it it you know,
it kind of went out and da. So you know,
we're sitting there. I'm like, I don't know what to
telling dude.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I am.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'm at a lost for words, dude. I'm like, God,
help me. I need something. I just it ain't got
to be now, but I need something, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah. So I'm sitting there, I get up, I go
back into the stand. You know, the game is. I
go down.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I grab his helmet and he says, hey, Dad, walk
behind me in the line.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think something about to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm like, okay, So I'm walking behind my son and
the line as they go do their thing, right, and
you know how kids are, they mouth and talking back
and forth. So walking behind in the line, the ad
grass me said, oh, hey, you can't be in the line.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I'm like, all right, cool, So I'm moving to the side.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So as I'm moving to the side, kids you know,
they going back and forth. They kids, you know, your coaches,
you get your kid, you know, tell them, hey, kill
it whatever. So as I'm walking through, I got so
far behind that my son can't see me. Here about
twenty yards ahead of me, and I see a grown
man coach.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He pointed. He's saying, that's him right there, that's him.
I said, Hey, who the fuck you pointing at? What?
Was he pointing at your son.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
For saying he was the one that was mouth and
off And that's the basically that's the one y'all need
to go get. I said, dude, you ever pointed mine again?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know you?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yes, I said, you're a grown ass man. Dude, you
go ahead and grab these kids. Let these kids mouth off,
get your get your own kids. Oh he went to crickets.
So now ad is trying to get me to leave.
They don'et got security and all this other stuff. So
I go ahead and I walk back. So I still
don't know what's up with James's ankle right, So I mean, sorry,
(12:25):
I still don't know what's up with james knee.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So we get back there and he's, uh, he's working
his knee and I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And I'm like, it's loose. I'm like that a cl
is loose. It's not you know how you get that
pop at the end. It's not doing that pop. So,
you know, I tell James, ay, go get dressed, you know.
Doctor said I don't know. You know, he's going to
have to get a looked at, you know. So I'm like, James,
go get dressed. So I'm like, DoD you know, that's
a loose dude, He said, I can't say for sure
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that's gone. He said they had another kid that actually
tour his complete like that was that his was to
it was going like it was no question, James. He
couldn't say it for show for show. We couldn't say
it for show. Hey, it's maybe. So I leave and
as I'm leaving, you know, James come up to me
and he's like, it's like that, just tell me the truth.
(13:15):
I'm like, son, I don't know. You know, if I knew,
I would tell you, but I don't know. So we
go and uh, we get the we go and we
get the we get the MRI. Now I ain't a doctor,
but I played once sometimes.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay. So I'm sitting back there and I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The MRI and I'm like, dude, that's just a c L. Yeah,
I'm looking at him like it's is. Yeah, I can
see it, dude. I'm like, it's just a c L.
So he get out of the thing and I'm you know,
I'm just preparing him, you know. I'm like, hey, I
think from what I'm looking at, dude, it's your.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
A c L. And like that's you know, as we're
figure out out what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Figure it out, man, it's it's I mean, hey, you
get just got you gonna have to pray on it, dude,
like everything, you got to put it everything right now
in God's It's not gonna be guy, yes, no question.
So you know, we go back over after we get
the MRI and they put it up on the screen
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and I'm looking at it, and uh, he sees it
up there, and he goes and started looks looking on
his phone and he looks and he's like, oh, yeah,
it's gone, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know, he ain't. He ain't lost it yet. He
ain't lost it yet.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So Doc comes in and Doctor is like, yeah, you know,
he calls for the guy that reason and he's like,
you know what about this?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And he's like, well, it's a meniscus. It looks like
a little it's a slack tear on the meniscus, and
you know, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And Doc's like, no, what about the you know what
about the a c L.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
He's like, yeah, it's it's scarred up. It's hell, he said, like,
it's scarred up as hill. At some point he tore
his a c O is scarred up in the hill,
the same game that he told me his knee hurt
where he messed up his ankle and he messed up
his sc He actually did a partial terror of his
a CL. So you you little man, bro, listen all
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these injuries. He's fighting through the gangster.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So I go and uh, you know, he's sitting over there.
His Anxie's like what what what?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And I'm kind of giggling in my head because I
know what's going on. I know what's going on. And
the when he finally just sat down and was like yoh,
so this is what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You got a slap tear.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You're looking at maybe three to four weeks, and you
know you could be back at it.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
This dude dropped to his knees like he started eating
a man. Yeah, dude, he hugged me, and I'm like laughing,
but I'm laughing crying because.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm so happy. Oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It is like, what's going on? Are we okay? I'm like, Doc,
you know what, we are good, dude, We are real good.
And you know, at times like that, dude, like I.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Really lean heavy on the word. You know what I'm saying.
I lean to you right now.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What I do is I actually send my Son's scripture
in the morning after I.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do my reading in the morning, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And the more I get into the word, the closer
and the more of a relationship I build my Lord
and Savor. I was, I was baptized, and you know,
I accept my Lord and Savor and August of twenty four, dude,
and from that point forward, I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I can't think of anything that has given me more
comfort than that.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Dude. You know, I love it and for him, you know,
And at the time.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I'm just telling him, like, yo, you know you you're
being you're being attacked right now.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And this is not this is not this is not God.
This is that he's trying to pull you away. He's
trying to he's seeing that you're you're you're, you're getting
closer and he's trying to pull you away to get
you to be like you know what, this ain't working.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, it's working. Mm hm. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's it's always yes, it just may not be right now,
go through different things to build more faith.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You know what. That may not come when you want it. Yes,
be there right on time, no question, you know what
I'm saying. So I say all that to let them know.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Man. So after that game, the a D sent out
a letter like the coaches, you know, the players, they
can't be on the field anymore. I mean, well, parents
can't be on the field anymore, and all that other stuff. Right,
So you know me, I gotta let him know. I'm
gonna protect mine at all this all costs. And that's
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what I said before. It's only two things that go
stop me from protecting mind. That's God in the grave.
He ain't never he ain't neither.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
One of them. He was.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I understand what demo good news is. Your good man
is good. My young man is good, yes, sir. And
we got prase and we.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Got some good ball, and we got some football. With
how it go? I go faith family football, Fay family football.
But let's go. Let's get to the football. Baby. We
got we got the Vikings, man, they are you.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Know what, it ain't even the Vikings man, It's another
team that squandered something in the fourth quarter. Dude, I
don't know what's going on with this week. Like you listen,
you got trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. Listen, man,
I'm gonna give credit. I'm gonna give it credit to
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JJ man. Like you know, he staged to come back
for the Ages, you know, yeah, but he got some help. Man,
he got some help. You know what I'm saying. He's
the first starting quarterback with a ten plus fourth quarter
comeback in his NFL debut since Steve Young nineteen eighty five. Man, Yes,
the only he's the only such quarterback since nineteen fifty
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to do it so on the road.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yes, yes, and he did it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But like thirteen of twenty one hundred and forty three
yards to touch.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And he still had a pick to the house. Bears,
how did you lose that game?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Man? This one I'm trying to tell you, James, You're
always gonna have winners and you're gonna have losers. At
the end of these games, you want the leader stayed
in with a win. The Bears find out a way
to lose. They find out the way to me. I
love Caleb first drive. He looks amazing. He's scrambling around
his line, not getting too much potentially nothing been.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Ready to jump on the bandwagon. Who he had met?
Ready to jump on the bandwagon?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Look it looked nice, right What nothing that the really
do is on time?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You know what I'm saying. Everything is ad living.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's moving, he's scrambling, he's getting around, he's extending plays.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Nothing's really too simple for him.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Drop back boom, I'm chilling, get the ball out everything
he's he's running for his life and extending plays and
making things go a little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
JJ McCarthy. The beginning of the game was not looking
good through the.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Pick six and the third look, but listen to what
I'm telling you. Listen what I'm telling you the way
that you just stay the float stay. Of course, his
coach JJ McCarthy and my good man Josh McCowan over
there back up the quarterback. He was a quarterback for
the Browns. He's not on the sideline. I think he
might be quarterback coach there. The way that they made
is simple for him. And when they went man and
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man in the fourth quarter, he started going to Justin Jefferson.
He threw the ball to the running back out of
the backfield, Aaron Jones, on the wheel route for the touchdown,
and then he used his legs. I just love the
fact how the Vikings they didn't give.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Up on him. He was not not don't give me
any stretch of imagine.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
JJD McCarthy played like Aaron Rodgers or any of those
other dudes.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But you said he did or said he did not.
He didn't work at all, not even Clay. Don't do that,
not even Cloak. I got I'm just heard, I said.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'm saying McCarthy, Ja j. He did what he had
to do to end up winning the game. In the
fourth quarter, they scored twenty one points. He did those drives.
I'm not at the beginning of the game. That was
sub par. That was sub par for sure, But the
Bears could have extended their lead, they could have won,
they could have figured it out. But when it got
to the end, when it got to the gritty, he
scored three touchdowns when they needed to get those touchdowns
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and get out of the stadium, and the Bears found
a way to for nakel it and to lose it.
So my question, dude, them boys only had like a
seven percent chance of winning with one thirty four left
in the third quarter was seventeen sixteen, the fourth quarter
twenty one, fourth quarter twenty one points, brother twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So I just love.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean, I'm not going to I'm not praising like
he played amazing. The first quarters were not all that
in any stretch. He didn't do not fifty some yards
interception of pick six.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But in that fourth it needed to be done.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
He did whatever whatever that halftime message was that O'Connell
told JJ man bro like, I want to know what
he said, Like, listen.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He still came He came out of half and still
threw the pick six.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Hey, you know came out speech pick six boom.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
All right, we're still doing hey, listen, happen.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You got here, you go throw this pick six and
then you gonna take then you're gonna come back even better.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That for real?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You like, what's what's your best halftime speech you ever had?
Or did you even need that? The best halftime speech
I ever had? That was in college by Tim Tebow.
When we hear that a lot, t BO got words,
t BO got words, t BO got bars, and t
BO means when he say and that's why Rocker with
TBO was on, He's like, you mean, look at me,
We're the best sixty minutes for the rest of our lives,
(22:51):
for the rest of our lives. That was That's free game,
the best halftime speech.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You thought you thought you thought them sixty minutes after that,
y'all was just dead.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That's all the bad.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's all we had. I was gonna give him all
I had because I know he's gonna give me all
he had. Oh, no question, I think I think. I
think t BO was like the coldest college quarterback area.
I mean pros it is something different, you know what
I'm saying. That's a totally different that's a totally different
monster over there. Like dude, Caleb he just I think
he helped everything that they did, dude, Like first quarter, fire,
(23:23):
second quarter up, fourth, third quarter, Uh, fourth quarter, dude, dude,
I think the last three quarters, dude, when what.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It was a couple of passes in the fourth I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, twelve of twenty thirty, he was.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Throwing great something like that shows flashes.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
He shows flashes all around of excellence, scrambling, throwing it
on the run, all different angles, putting the ball on
where it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But like you said, that fourth where he needs to
be due he missed.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I'm saying through the first three to the first three quarters,
we saw all that he was. But then in the
fourth we saw Aaron throws just over people's heads, things
that you just you just need to.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Make those passes.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And when I say that, but JJ McCarthy on the
fourth quarter, when he threw that wheel route to the
running back, it was perfect because he didn't even throw
it like make him go run and get it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
He's wide open.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Throw it so he can catch the ball and fall
into the end zone. You know what I'm saying, Like
just simple things like that is where Caleb just get
the ball into their hands.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
A lot of players. He does do great, but.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Then in the fourth it just started looking like I
don't know what it was, but some passing was just
flu flying out of his hands. Listen, man, how do
you go to be the number one pick dude of
your draft class? And now you're done lost to everybody
came at you, Daniels May and JJ.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
What are we talking about? Yeah, you're right, and he
was the number one pick. And I mean, I ain't
gonna lie the Bears.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's the Bears, like you acting like the Bears organization.
It's like, I don't I don't really like what they're
doing over there.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Man. They setting them up.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
They got them looking for crazy Dad Trubisky out there
looking crazy. They had just the fields out there looking crazy.
Now they got Caleb about there looking crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Hell, they had the field out there looking crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Dude, dude, feel yeah, they had the field out there
out there stamping down the field.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Right, patched up, patched up like the game. Like, Bro,
I don't know what they're doing. We had we had
a situation like that with the Steelers. Dude.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It was I want to say it was like two
thousand and seven Miami, and it well, you know they
they have like all those games playing like around that time,
and then Pitt plays on it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
They had the high schools playing on it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So what they did is they resided the field like
right after they had stopped the games on Saturday, and
then it rained, poured cats and dogs.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Bro, it was so bad. The punter kicked the ball
and the ball hitting.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The ground and just stayed there just like that, like
just like a golf shot, like a yes, dude. And
then like when you would go to cut, dude, like
if this was my foot right here, bro, like that
thing would be all the way up on my ankle, dude,
like on my own damn there close to my my shin, Dude,
Like my foot would be that deep into the into
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the mud when you was going to cut.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And that was that where that was. That was a
Heines field.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That was a Heines field they had resided. So what
they did is they I believe it ended up being
they sodded it for them and then they couldn't get
it removed, so they like kind of like sided on
top and then it poured rain like for the whole time,
like all the way through the game and all that. Like, dude,
(26:42):
that was the worst.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But that was the worst field you ever played on.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
That's that's the worst. That was the worst field I'd
ever played on.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Dude, Okay, yeah one.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I mean I played in Chicago a couple of times
and their field is the grass is high and it's
kind of patchy, you know, so that that field is
just not I'm not not a fan of not a
fan of the Bears field.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm not a fan of turf.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I mean, I like I like turf, I like natural grass,
So my favorite. Do that bother you when you go
out there and you see like they ain't really taking
care of the field, I.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Mean, no, it doesn't affect me. In fact, I'm gonna
tell you. I'm gonna tell you this right now.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
When I see the field ain't taken care of and
it's like it's like muddy and saludy, I'm like, yeah,
they can't run that. That helps me. Like, look, I'm
a power through it. I'm gonna be guys, I'm gonna
be able to catch the ass.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm a cornerback. I'm a cornerback. My first thing I'm
thinking about is my footing. Can I can I fall?
Can I break? So I instantly need to go get
the seven studs. Yes, you got me in the grass.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And you got a terrible feel.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I gotta go get them seven studs with them long
so I know my feet no matter what. Dude's always
making fun of the seven stuffs. But if you're in
the grass, in the terrible field and you don't have
on seven stuffs, you're not gonna be sticking when you
stagger them things to give you that give you that
good grit o. First down on that big one on
the front, small one here, two big ones here, and
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then your your uh, your small ones in the back.
Like you got to stagger them things, man makes it.
It makes it so much easier to grip and get
onto that field. My coach, Keith Butler, Man, he taught
us that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Man. Oh yeah, the no bus was making sure go
put the seven studs.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah you have Butts, get you some Yeah, I have Bud,
get you some seven stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah you was here the one year. Yeah I have
but for the show love but.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah for sure. Man, that's that's dude. Butts is the best.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Linebacker coach I ever had.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I bet like I credit him with my career just
as much as I credit.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Without the two of them, there is no need to.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Butsy was a great good Bussy's hilarious, bro, He's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So let's get over here to the Sunday night loss
with the Ravens. So that Sunday night loss for the
Ravens was a seventh time since the start of the
twenty twenty two season that they have lost the game
while leading by double digits in the second half. Dude, Wow,
that's crazy, dude. They have blown seventeen such leads since
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John Harball became the team's coach. Hardball ignow that number
is too high, and he said the team has to
be really intentional when they find themselves in the position
in the future. Maybe part of it is we're ahead,
We're ahead a lot, and we have a lot of
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two point leads. I don't believe we need to really
I believe we need to really what is say? I
believe we need to really thoughtfully. What I can't see
it make it bigger.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
They need to be thoughtful of protecting leads. There we go.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I do believe we need to be really thoughtful of
how we approach the situation going forward.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Let's give it some time. Let's give it some thought.
Let's give it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Let's give some thought to the play calling. Let's give
some thought to the defense play calling. Let's give some
thought to my mind to our mindset. Yeah, it's everything
I told you. Y'all stopped calling plays. You started calling
plays to try and run the clock out. The defense
started playing soft, keep everything in front of you, and
they mindset was gone as soon as they got that
(30:36):
what was it, twenty to twenty five or forty league,
They just thought it was going to be a pushover
and take off. You're only two scores away from actually
losing the game if they make two two point conversions.
Debo you speaking, You saying, he's saying, I don't we
need to be thoughtful and about protecting leads.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
No, you don't.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You need to keep on doing what you doing to
get the lead. Keep on trying to score, Stop trying
to play.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Talking about right here.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Play the win, don't play the lose. When you start
playing not to lose, then that's when you lose. You
gotta play to win the game. You get up in
the lead, don't start changing nothing up, keep going hard,
keep blittening them. Don't make it defense, get back and
get all protective. No, you know what I'm saying. Keep
blasting them right, Powell on dog, so you get soon
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you get the chilling. They're gonna get to spanking you.
It's such thing as momentum. And soon you let a
dog get one.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Bite on you.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
All right, bet now we're getting. Now you in retreat mode. No,
don't never go and retreat, mister Harball. You have Derrick
Henry and Lamar Jackson. Don't slow them down. Keep going,
keep going, keep scoring. That's the way you're gonna protect
your lead. Make it bigger. Yeah, yes, that's the way
you protect your lead.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You make it bigger. You don't sit there and hold
on to it. This ain't like it's two minutes left
and they ain't got no time out. No, you're gonna
got a whole quarter.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And y'all, y'all just seeing him go down there and
get a field goal in less than twenty seconds at
the end of the half.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Down there, stop you stop? What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
What he's saying, man like that don't make no sense
at all. That's why I love Jim Harborough. He's a
great coach. But what he's saying out of his mouth
right that I just don't agree with like just keep
going hard, like we need to be thoughtful of protecting
the lead. No, you need to be keep trying to murder,
keep trying to score, keep trying to sack, strip fumble,
keep trying to get more points. Yeah, I think just
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I think he might have used the wrong word and
he came back and said they need to change the
play calling and all that thoughtful of protecting. You know,
that's that's more of like, Yo, I'm gonna hold onto this.
I'm not trying to get more. I'm not trying to
make more.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That's like somebody's like, you know, I'm I'm let me
just go hold on to my money. I ain't gonna
invested in trying to get more of you know, I'm
just gonna protect it like it's gonna be safe right here. Yeah,
I'm not. No, I gotta I gotta invest it into
into something that's gonna make me more.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
The fan who hit d Hopping and Lamar on the
helmet last night has been in definitely banned from the
bill stadiums.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
According to Adam Scheffner.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, keep your hands and your feet to yourself.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Fans still listen I still say they should have pressed
charges on I know what you're saying, Debo. You ready
for him to get locked up. If they did it,
the fan would have went and pressed some charge.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
If you would have took off, if you would have
took off on the fan first and d pushed me
much of them, dude, Cardi b oh, yeah, try to
get her for twenty Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he would have.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
She would have for he would have.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
She was just saying some words to her that wasn't
even talking about whooping on her either, just asked her
what she was doing with some other you know, other
language to it.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah. Well, like I hope, I.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Hope this less fans know your ass ain't gonna be
able to come to no more games you put your
hands on people.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
You can still watch. You can still watch on TV.
Oh that's lovely though, de Bo. I mean you can't
be present. This is gonna take you. You can watch
on TV, drink and all that. Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I need more of a penalty, man, because we would
get more of a penalty.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I need them to get that same penalty. We need
the same penalty when they need my penalties.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
We speak about penalties, but man, he might not even
get suspended for spitting. What your man, I might not
even get suspended for spitting. Hey, I ain't gonna lie
to you, bro, he might we talk when when I
think about it, my first start happened because uh, Joey
Parter spin on.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I believe it was William Green.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
So pregame, pregame spit in Cleveland, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, pregame.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Spit fight all that. Pasy.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Wow, man, look pasy. I appreciate you, baby, give me
my first start. That was two thousand and four. Yeah,
got me my first start, for sure. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
That was back in the day. Huh, that was back
in the day. We're trying to say, joe, oh my bad.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I'm just feeling I'm feeling some time where I felt
like I felt like I felt like I felt like.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
An old like like no no, no, no, no no
no photo. Yeah, that was dead. That was back before
my time, ye before you Okay, okay, I ain't gonna
crash out. You know what I'm saying. Who what else got? Devot?
And what else I got?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah? All right, man, let me see what I got
going on here? Take me where I need to be.
So let's get it to uh Kittles Man Kittles. He
Uh reportedly is expected to be sidelined for multiple weeks
after suffering their hamstring injury during Sunday's win over Seattle.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Do that's wild. They're gonna need him. They're gonna need him,
I mean, especially now. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I hope Christian McCaffrey stays hell this whole season, because
that dude is a ball on once he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But if they lose Kittles beat more McCaffrey, you know what,
he lost two weeks. He lost two games last year
with a hamstring. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You know these guys that that that, like, yeah, soft
tissue injuries. I don't think they understand. It's like a
it's a muscle imbalance. It's either for him, he's probably
he's doing hamstrings. He's probably a guy that's quad dominant.
If he strengthen the squads and get them closer to
the balance of yeah, the balance of his hamstrings.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He won't he you know, he won't. He won't pull
a quads.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And you know, especially like in the first you know,
a couple of weeks of the season, you get a
lot of guys with soft tissue injuries. And it's just
you know, either imbalance or it's a a combination of
an imbalance with fatigue. Because you got these guys, like said,
you get in the preseason. Nobody really plays in the
preseason at all.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know what I'm saying. You lucky if you get
you know, ten snaps in the preseason game now and
you get all live reps.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Right then you go out there week one and even
the reps like you said, you get, they're not one
hundred miles an hour. And then you go out there
week one and you tell your body, hey, I need
you to give me forty fifty reps out one hundred
miles an hour for sure. Right, They're like, Yo's what's
going on? And then they wonder why they get these
soft tissue injuries. And a lot of guys don't train
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like that anymore, you know, Like you know, when I train,
people are like James, why are you sitting up there
pushing a you know, a two thousand pounds said, I'm
putting attention on my achilles, thees I'm building up to
that I make sure I'm getting that, Like I don't
start at two thousand I've built up to that through
the course of you know, my training, so that when
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it comes time to actually do that and press on it,
it's used to it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So it's not going to just go and you know,
give out on yep.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, like you're pushing on them line and like leaning
on them. That's two thousands you trying to get them
up off you and you want. Ah, that's a lot,
that's a lot of weight Yoh, they're thinking about putt
him on the temporary are where you got to be
out at least four weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
What is that on Kittle? Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Ian Rapperport reported that Kittle would likely be sidelined three
to five weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
He sure he ain't tear that thing. That's more than
just a little strain. That's definitely more than a strain.
That thing off the bone. No, yeah, all out there. No,
I'm not trying to get him out off the bone. No.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I hope, I swear, I hope it's not. I want
him to be okay. I want to come back as
soon as possible. Oh, no question, you know a few
weeks with a little handy.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Hey you ever pulled a handy? Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And they long. Uh I was about I was about
three weeks, three weeks to yeah, three weeks, yo, So
I don't I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I don't think nobody knows this because I've never told anybody.
So when I jumped over Ladani and Thomas and uh
San diego h that was another spot start I got,
like in who with a two thousand and ford That
might have been the same year I pulled my groin
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and I didn't miss no time.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I just kept playing through it. People, you were crazy,
I had Hey, I just.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Got soft tissue work, I got, I got some back.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
You probably got some dry immediately, dude, And I just
kept going with it. B I tried that. I played
on the string growing for two weeks, but then my joint.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Actually I had to get surgery on both both sports hernians,
both both growings double sports.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
An your joint. Yeah yeah, yeah, that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
What you must not You must not have been really
doing the doing the care. The salt tissue worked with that,
I knew all the crazy work until it happened, and
then when it happened, the other one happened, and then
the off season.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
But it was good. I once I got surgery on them.
I was solid until now until I retired.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Now my left growing acting a little crazy, but I
don't need to get from zero to sixty in full
speed right now, so I'm still solid.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm trying to tell you when you retire, listen, bruh.
I donet have most surgeries since I got done. Hey,
and I did while I was playing.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Bro. No, I'm not letting no, Bro, that's the car.
That's why I had to get up out of there.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
When I got up out of there, I started being like, Man,
if I keep going, I might be a little messed
up where I can't run and move the whey I
want to. So, I mean it was right around this time.
That's why I still got my left growing. My left
growing is still not to one hundred percent. Like I
can't do certain stretches. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
There's normal stretches, but I can make it shake, you
know what I'm saying. Like if I had have played
another year, boy, I might need to get another whole
surgery for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
In my growing, I felt the same way about my back, dude,
And then through the process of actually doing this goes
some crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Dude doing a food sensitivity allergy test.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I ended up finding out like I was severely, severely
like allergic to eggs, not to where I would blow up,
but to where my body had an inflammatory response.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah. So after I you did the all CAT Yes, brother,
I need so after I.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
After I did that, you know, my doc had been
telling me for a minute, like yo on my naturally,
like you need to stop eating egg stop eating eggs,
stopping the eggs.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I'm like, dude, that's the only thing I eat. What
else I'm gonna eat? I'm eating.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
You know, it doesn't have it doesn't half eggs a day.
So at that point, you know, to get out of bed, dude.
You know, after the two back surgeries, I'd be on
my you know, hands and knees, just sitting there warming
up and then go hit the shower and then you know,
take off the practice. And I finally listened and I stopped,
and within like six months, all of a sudden, I
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was popping out of bed, dude, like popping out of bed,
just going and I'm energy.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
So you're not normally you wasn't normally a morning person
eating all them eggs? No, No, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I had the energy, but it was the the inflammatory
response on my back that was killing me where I
had to warm up and start getting things moving and
get that get that inflammation out of there. Okay, Oh,
I'm gonna pop up and rise. I'm a three o'clock dude.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Every day, I get it. I get I get them
every day. Well not every day you go to sleep, debo,
what time you go to sleep? If youre waking up
at three days, I'm.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Telling you right now, it's murdering me with these night games, bro, Like,
it's murdering me with these Now I'm getting like two
three hours of sleep, hitting the gym, coming back through,
doing everything I need to do. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
I just some days. You for what, Actually I only
need probably like I'm a I used to be a
(42:57):
four to six guy. I'm probably more like a five
to six guy. But I could function a good week
and a half two weeks on, you know, three to four.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
So I'm good. It's only a couple of days and then.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I'll get I'll get some sleep. I'll get some sleep tomorrow.
So okay, okay, I can sleep in. Yeah, I get
to sleep in until five. You know, that's sleeping in.
So come Saturday and Sunday, I sleep until five. Monday
through Friday is three o'clock. And it keeps Yeah, it
keeps going from there. Brother, I'm probably I'm like, I'm
like six o'clock. I'm always up at six. I got
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the kids and everything, so I probably at six o'clock
every day, even even on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Sunday.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Sunday we got church, so you know, I'm up at
six o'clock on it. But Saturday I might try to
sleep in.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
But the kids, they don't.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
They the alarm clock, they gonna wake up like especially
on Saturday. They want to act like they won't wake
up earlier because they know they don't got school, so
they don't care.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
They might wake up at five. They ready for whatever
on Saturday. Man, your kids young.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
My kids are nine and with my boy just turned
nine today. And my boy Jet is a six.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Man, my youngest.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
That dude that gets sixteen hours if you let him,
I promise you, dude, he got like my brother kid
sleeping man like he will he This dude will come
home from school, go to sleep and won't wake up
until he got to use the bathroom and if he
(44:28):
got homework and he'll.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Wake up like like five o'clock before he got to
go to school to get it done. Liked. Oh he's sleeping,
sleeping this dude, sleep sleep. Oh that's and hearn when
he don't sleep. Sleep.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
You could you can finding, you know, three o'clock in
the morning up there with the headphones on.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
What are you doing with the headphones on? Man? He
playing the damn game on the sticks? Okay, okay, he
wanted them. He wanted those. U what's the computer games
they play? Dude?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
They got these Fortnite. I don't know, man, they got
these computers cross cost the arm in the leg and
tell me about it. They've got their I pass right now,
so they I'm chilling. I still got no gaming systems
for them. But we got the PS five. Just do
the two K, you know what I'm saying, and the
matt maybe a little FIFA okay, you know what I'm saying.
(45:25):
None of the crazy games yet. Grant Arismo maybe you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Car games, my boy, Joey's what's growing to Arismo, dude,
Grand Arismo. Bro.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
We got the racing car simulated game with like the
driver and the gas pedal and the and the shifters
Grand it's a whole setup. It's a whole setup. You
can get a whole setup. I got a whole cage
like I'm riding the NASCAR.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, you got you gotta to ashow me. I'm gonna
show you that I'm a driver. You know what I'm saying.
I got, I got my cd LS. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I could if you if y'all need somebody out there,
I got. I got pasted during endorsement. Really so I'm
I'm a Class B driver. I could drive school buses.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
You know. I was thinking about driving the school buses.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Go ahead and tell them kids, sit you ass on
down now.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I'll be scared to help you with my bus driver.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Hey, listen for real, though, this is what I was
thinking about doing. I don't even know if they would
have let me, but I wanted to. I wanted to
go and be the driver like one of my sons
buses like one time, and like had him had me
right there. If you got your license, if you got
the CD I got past your endorsements, go talk to
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the bus driver. Hit sub you in boom. You know
I mean to tell me right in bomb hold it down.
I did all that like in college, dude. I got
my CDLs in college, so that smove.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I was a bus driver before you know, I had
set out. Well, I didn't sit out.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
I had to. I didn't have the grades to be eligible.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I was a prop forty eight, so you know, well,
I don't even know if y'all have proper then you're
a little.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Younger than me.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
So yeah, when you couldn't do nothing with it, you
couldn't do nothing with the team. They didn't pay for
your education or nothing. You just went to school, okay.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And then I messed that up, So now I have
to pay for another year? What do you now? And
then the coaches champ. Yeah. I ended up walking on
at Kent State with my good man Josh Cribs at quarterback.
Served well. He came in my senior year, Josh, Josh
like younger.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Okay, Debo, you're just putting years on yourself, right you
grown man, Debo?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
You don't care you look you look. I told her,
I thought you I thought you was I thought you
was like forty two.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Nah, no, bro, I'm I'm closer to fifty than I
am the fourth, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Closer to I'm thirty six, closer to what you started there, huh,
close to closer to my dad's age, Debo. I'm not
gonna lie. I think you might be a little bit
closer than my dad age than me. How old is
your dad? Fifty six? Hold? Are you thirty six? Yeah?
(48:15):
I think you might be nine years. I think you
might be closer to.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Hey, man, you need to watch how you talk to
your elders. Now, that's why I've been talking to you.
Time show some respects, called your dad time. Go on
ahead over there and whip your ass.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Boy. Oh do your stup? You stup? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
No, but for real, though, you is a little closer
to propers than me, probably just a bout one year.
But look, all right, but your dad turned fifty seven
this year. He No, he just he turned fifty six
this year.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
You turn I.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Turned thirty seven when April fourteenth? All right, I ain't tripping,
all right, look, debo. So yeah, you're close to my
dad to me. We got that established. Let's talk about
Russell Wilson. Hey, he's still starting, definitely still starting. But
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like you know, like you were saying.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
He getting he's getting getting another week.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
He getting getting close to you know, if he don't,
if he don't do something, he getting close to going ahead.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
And but you cann be sitting back there.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
But like you said of Debo, they don't want to
throw out the new man and just get him beat
up because Russell Wilson was running for his life out there.
So we don't want to throw out the new guy, Jackson,
the dark h who we got. We don't want to
throw a new quarterback out there and then he just
starts getting hit just like Russell will. So we want
to put Russell out there, the vet, you know what
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I'm saying, so he can try to try to just
be able to get the line blocking for him, because
you don't who no matter who's back there, if you
if you switch out Russell and put the other guy,
he's going to keep getting hit. So at the same time,
you jo you don't want to put your rookie quarterback
out there in a situation where you know he's not
in a position to win, and at least not this early.
It's only game two. Like, let's see what Russell can
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do with this offense. Bill try to get milite neighbors
into the game. You know what you got there. But
protecting the quarterback is thing one, and Russe's a vet.
So I wouldn't throw my young dude out there to
be getting hit upside the head this early. Yet, you know,
you know, like Russ even you know when he was
with the Steelers last year, you know, he gets a
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you know when when he get a little unsure, he'd
rather he'd rather throw it closer to it being out
than it being in.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Especially you know when you.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Got those those you know, defenders close to him and
it's like, you know, one of those sideline throws.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, I didn't especially like as it got deeper into
the season, I started I started noticing that, or at
least that.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Was my view of it. You know, what would you
what was your view of it? Did you?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I like the way I mean the one thing that
Russell was doing, the idea kind of like at least
he was giving the receivers opportunities.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I mean, just throw that. He threw some good fat
balls to George when he was there, and that's what. Yeah,
but it was some that just like, yo, you didn't
even give him opportunity. It's just bond. I know, I know,
I know, I mean that was the thing. I mean,
normally he thought.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Normally that's his best that's his best pass he does
it is the goball and to give the dudes ops.
But I don't know he was throwing them out of
bound sometimes it just it didn't look it didn't look
Russell like, hopefully he doesn't do that like I saw this.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
It didn't look Russell like.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I ain't. Like I said, Russell was a good dude.
But Russell been looking Russell the Russell that were looking
at if he's been looking like that but since Denver.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, but I just like, like I said too though
he didn't look too like.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
This is how you're going to say the man. If
you don't have no time to throw the ball, how
you going to greater man? Hey, you time to throw
the ball. Look at Aaron Rodgers. He was getting that
thing out of there, very little time to throw the ball.
He made the decisions. He made decisive decisions.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
All out when he needed to play calling. Play calling.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, in a position to win, can we give wrestled
some options where you can get it out faster?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
We got deep, we got deep routes.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Why is he not getting it out faster or is
he just holding on to it for fear of it
being a pick because he's unsure. Could be both, could
be both. There's two ways to skin a cat. That's
that's for sure. But I mean to say, I mean,
he's a veteran quarterback, like if nothing else.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
You should be able to just see it and getting dumb.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, I think right now they're gonna least they're going
to keep him in there, give him another shot to
do better before they put Darling there, because they put
Dart in there right now.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I don't. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
I'm gonna be honest, dude, I don't see him putting
Dart in there until like they don't. They don't want
at least I'm with you, like three four deep, like
you can't. Like you said, he's he's being pressured. Your
your rookie quarterback is not going to make more decisive
decision unless he is you know, actually a better actually
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a maker can see it better. It's more decisive with it.
But you know, you start getting into games where you
got these deep coordinates. You get this rookie in here,
and what's the first thing they do you start throwing
everything at you know, everything in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Sink to confuse him. You know, you disguise it.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
You know you you're gonna do different things like when
you know coach lebou we would play a rookie quarterback,
dude or disguise game is on point and you're trying to.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Confuse him, you know, every which way.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
No, I get that, I get that, But at the
same I mean, Jackson Dark, he he could he could
be better.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Like he didn't look he didn't look bad.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
I mean, obviously it's the preseason, but he was throwing
the ball, He's getting it out of his hands fast.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
They picked him before he was a hot he was
what was it first What round did Dark go in?
Was it first round? I think the first round?
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, so he was definitely went before Shador so they
seen something in them. Yeah, but I'm just not too
big on the Giants. So it's kind of like, I mean,
he darts back there, Wilson's back there. It's going hopefully
they hopefully they is the head coach and in New
York and Giants is it day bo bron coach Davo,
(54:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
I don't know him. By he was my he was
a coach for me.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I think he was an offensive coordinator for the Browns
when I was there in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
But so he drafted, well, yeah, obviously he drafted dark.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Listen, at some point, everybody goes to start having to
think about, uh, you know, making sure they protecting their job,
the decisions that they made, and drafting this person. The
first rounder is supposed to come in and contribute to
the team that year, right, that's why you put him first?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Was? I think quarterbacks are a little tricky. ID any other.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Position besides the quarterback, they' supposed to be instant starter baller,
and the quarterback, even if he's not ready, you're projecting
if you draft him in the first round, that he's
going to be a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
That's what I'm expecting. If I draft a quarterback in
the first round. I don't know. I'm thinking I think
he might he might get a crash.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Course, so to speak, and uh, yeah, it might have
to happen for sure, because if Russell keep getting hit
like this like they was, I was looking on Instagram
and I I gotta I'm gonna pull up some clips
when they showed like They was like, oh they want
dark to start because nobody they just had free runs
out of them a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Okay, I don't like it. Joe.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Before we got out of here, we got our first
super chat. Joe, what super chat? Big old head donat
bag bag on Head donated five dollars and said, James,
I was at the Dolphins game in two thousand and seven.
(56:29):
The field was horrible. I think John Beck played quarterback
for Miami. Score was three to nothing. Stellers, right, that
sound right? That does sound right? That good man?
Speaker 2 (56:42):
There we go. What's his name? I think that was.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Bag on Head donate, that's that's just I guess that
must be his his chat name. His chat name is
bag on Head. While your bag on Head man?
Speaker 2 (56:57):
You a Browns fan? Oh no?
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Oh, I hope shots fired. You can't call me old
think I ain't gonna shoot back? The old think I
ain't gonna shoot back. That's ma Mama's son, play that.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
Man. Oco.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
John donated two dollars and said Fellas still has just shine.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Julian Java Peppers. No, they didn't, did they Jabril Peppers?
They signed him? Are you sure that's nice?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
I played with Jabil in Cleveland when he got drafted there.
That's a football player.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, but where did they play? That's the big thing,
Like like where it don't matter. I mean, like we
can have him at safety.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
We can have him at safety or slot, nickel or
either strong whatever whatever opposite where Jalen's at.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Slide him down. He could blitz nickelback or.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Safety, Nickel safety, Nickel safety. To show nickel safety, I
say safety. I don't know about nickel. The only reason
I say nickel just he's gonna be cover. He can
cover tight ends and he can blitz. He's a tackler,
like the way we use Mike Hilton. Like still, let's
use debrill like Mike Hilton that man, I'm not that that.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
Would be nice. Mm hmm. He's tackling, bro.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
That's the month thing, Like we need some people that's
in that joint filling up some of these holes.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Hey, man, you no bag onhead.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
He a Dolphins fan, bro, and he donated, Bro, he
donated five dude, we can't you know, I mean, everybody
got they faults.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
You know, I mean I like that.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I'm here, I'm here, I'm here for it. I'm yeah,
it's okay, you know what I'm saying. Appreciate it. I
appreciate the information, though. I think that was the three
nothing game or was it three or six?
Speaker 2 (59:00):
I got one, I got got I'm not gonna check
that out. I got somebody gotta check that out. But
I got one. I got something I want to talk about, right, Oh,
hold on what time we got? Oh? It's twelve on
one people, I got I got last one.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
NBA MVP Shady Gooders Alexander says that there's no way
he could play in the NFL. Which NBA players do
you think could play in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Or and vice versa? Who you think, James? You know what, man?
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I would want to say that somebody could, but they
so tall, man, you gonna get cut down. Only reason
why I'm saying is like I think, so say, but
say six how tall is the How tall was Jimmy
Graham tight end when he was playing for the Saints.
He was like six seven sixty okay, seven okay? So
(59:51):
I'm looking at you. Put Braun at tight end at
six eight to sixty. I don't know, like you know
what I'm saying, Megatron, it was six five two fifty
like and then just depending on.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Okay, I think BRONC. I think bron could do it
for show.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I think even I think maybe Anthony Edwards might be
able to do it and play safety or something because
I just like his aggressiveness.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
If Derrick Rose played football, I think Derrick Rose might
have been able to do it. I know a I
would have been able to do it. Yeah, he did it.
He did it. He was number one in both He
could have just went and he went the right way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
And then with basketball, who do I see that could
play in the NBA that plays in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Maybe see that? See that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
That's gonna be the tough part because we're gonna need
like a they're they're tall, so we're gonna need somebody
that's like a wire, like somebody like can like could
Calvin play shooting guard? You know what I'm saying, six five,
two fifty. But then he has to be good at basketball. Ay,
it's probably a quarterback, a quarterback to run the one
(01:01:00):
or I don't know what they're gonna run, but it's
gonna have to be a quarterback because these quarterbacks actually
be good at shooting the ball because they I'm just
telling you, like you ever seen being played basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, you can shoot. He got Tredeballa, he got trade ball.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
And you know who else, Dude, I take it back, Keysel, Dude,
Bret Kezel young, Bret Kezel Man. I think Bret Keysel
was a Mcdonaldsall American back in the day in high school.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Torel prior, okay to real prior. You know what, I
ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I'm gonna throw. I ain't gonna throw my you know what. No, No,
you're gonna throw yourself in there. I'm gonna throw my
hat in the bucket. No, no, yeah, bro, you know
who I'm guard. You know what, look at I'm gonna
be out that thing like.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Hey man, we want to thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Guys for doing us, because Joe about to sit here
and tell them some lies. Man, Thank you guys for
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Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
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