Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Steelers WIN vs. Pats, Browns UPSET Packers, Chiefs get 1st win of season

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Sunday Night Football where Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs defeated Russell Wilson and the New York Giants. Later, Deebo & Joe react to Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers defeating the New England Patriots, the Cleveland Browns upsetting the Green Bay Packers, and much more from Week 3 of the NFL Season!

Timeline:
00:00 - Steelers beat Patriots 
26:00 - Browns Beat Packers
35:40 - Eagles Beat Rams
47:00 - Bears beat Cowboys
54:00 - Colts beat Titans 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James
Debot Harrison. I'm here with my co host, Joe Hayden.
Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want
to miss nothing. Man, I'm feeling real good. How you
doing over there, Joe?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm feeling great, Debo, you know what, Man? I like
the way you came, so you know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna go ahead and get right. Also, I see
you guys to play. You know, I'm feeling good with
my brownies. I'm gonna go ahead this how this how
a man rocking out the go ahead? Pop off the show?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, yeah, got to got too, no question about it.
Let's go ahead, get down to the nitty gritty bebby. Listen, sir,
my Stellers, because I see you got on your brown
stuff today. My Stellers went out there and we uh
we uh we went on and beat on the Patriots.
I'm just gonna say beat on because you know, them

(00:56):
boys couldn't really couldn't do much. You know, when it
came down to it, defense came out strong.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
You know. We go out there.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Second play, we got a sack h third play we
should have had a pick. But that's cool because the
next play we went on ahead and made them boys
fum with that rock. You know what I'm saying. It's
easy work. Then we get the offense, they step out there.
You know what they did, they said, we did the
this burg still we played smash mount football. We go

(01:25):
run this down, your motherfucker. Okay, that's how they popped off.
They bank a lot they did. They did seven plays, man,
seven run plays now seven nine nine.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
The defense, though, de bo, like you said, they popped
off early turnover within the first couple of plays of
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Look look here, man, look at it. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Look, I know you trying to trying to gaze over it.
Don't you be gazing over nothing. Now listen here, got
my man DK in there early right, went on here,
gave him a quick one, let him stroke out real
quick through.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
A deep one twin.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
You know he was scared. Boy was nervous. That was
a huge p I. And then what happened.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Seven we did yeah, baby.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, next possession. You know what, defense, come out there,
do what they gotta do. Get that sack on that
third down. Hello, hello, Still curtain tight like they was
straight to them. Yeah, listen, man, I'm trying to tell
you this is what's going on. Man, did yay? Officers
come right back out there. What they do they say,

(02:29):
you know what, we ran it down on you last time.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
We're gon we're gonna, we're gonna We're gonna go ahead
and mix it up. We're gonna mix it up a
little bit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
But what we gonna make sure that we do is
going ahead and get this Get this man involved that man, DK,
get him involved. Fourteen fourteen nothing right there. Beginning the
second quarter touchdown DK, that was.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
A nice that was a good pass. Good Hey, hey,
I'm trying to tell you to that was better. That's
what it see. And you know, then things start to
get a little.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, a little you know, New England comes out. You know,
they gone ahead, they get the first run was like
ten yards, and you know, I'm a little hesitating, you know,
I'm pulling on my glass a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Then the second, you know, the second place, we.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Let this quarterback scramble for like come on, and then
we go ahead and get a PI and we don't
help them go ahead and score a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Get it all the way down there. Y'all left the
man wide open in the flat? What doing? What is
we doing?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
And then the office come back out and just do
three and up. We at no answer, no, no, nothing like.
That's that's that's not what we do. That's that's just
not what we do. So we gotta put the defense
back out there after three and out, and then the
defense proceeds to let these boys go seventeen plays, convert

(03:53):
two fourth downs, yeah, two.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Hold up two giant third downs.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Dude, long third down, and they got twenty plus yards
on that, dude.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
But but that's the bend. But don't break.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Hey, Hey, like you said, I was gonna say the
same thing. Hey, you've been, you've been, but you don't
break what we do. We took their hopes away with
a with a nice paw from cam to exception in
the zone to end the half.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Bro, that's two turnovers in the first half.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, but that's.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's looking like real, some some sort of real still
a football there, you know what I'm saying. I'm loving it,
you know. And then we start off the second half.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And yeah, he Rod threw the first pick.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
He though I don't listen, he threw a pit. So
this is where that happened. He was looking and he
kind of got I think he got locked in and
just just went blank over there. That's the only way
he could he could have did that, man, because.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
My man Robert plain split At used to be playing
linebacker for the stealers that pick and try to get
busy up the sideline.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh no question. But like I said, you got the defense.
You know they're back out there.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh yeah, and they do what they do what we do.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Stevenson again, get us another one. Come on back, Come on.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Over here, you know on the one that chain get
over here. That was him with that ball.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Just get over here. It was just giving it, giving
it up. He couldn't hold it.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, bro that it started looking like I thought I
was running back the same play.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, I like they kept fumbling the ball. I'm like,
happened make it?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
We make it look the same when we go out
there and do the same thing to you over the
you know what I'm saying. But then the offense go
out there and they basically go go three and out.
It wasn't for a little penalty, it would have been
a three and out and uh you know what, you.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Know what happened then? What happened? To go back out there?
What we do? What we do? What is it? What? Whatether? What? What? Another?
That boy coughed that ball up again? I think you
might have had COVID.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
That could that could only be that, that could be
the only explanation.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
You know, what I'm saying is some type of some
type of cough medicine.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
So we get on out there again. You know, we
done gave him a little you know, we're done, gave
him some mold opportunities. And the offense give us three
and out again. They gave us three and out again.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
And what's the score at this point? It's to fourteen seven?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Dude? The score fourteen seven right now?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Fourteen seven right now, and New England comes out again.
Fifteen players? Bro?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
They how many fourth down conversion? Two fourth down conversions?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Bro, That's what I'm saying, one of them being the
touchdown that brought it fourteen fourteen exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Man, that's what that that was. That the Stiller defense
doing great job. But that's what I'm saying to a
rod when you keep saying we keep slumbing over, like
number three and out, number three and out. These are
just opportunities where the Stiller defense is giving them the ball,
you know what I'm saying, And I'm like, they're balling out.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
We need something we need.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
So I'm like, hey, at least I know the offense
got to come back out here and give us an answer,
give us something.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
They don't give us nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
The only thing that helped extend to play was a
p I like, that's the only thing we had what
two three incompletions on there.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't know. I know what you. I keep saying,
we see you got that brown stuff. I mean we like,
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I'm with you to I'm still I'm still man. I
knew you was gonna go so hard with the with
the Stillers. I'm just saying, man, hey, you got to
show my brown from love too always.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Then New England they come back out there, Man, they
start they started moving the ball a little bit. Man,
show up again that defense always get that offense and
not short field.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Is that the one flop that it?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, woy, offense come out there, what they do, what
they do, Tell them what they did, that's what they need.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
They scored. They answered with that touchdown.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
They answered that and defense come back out there and hey,
we finally stopped them when it really really really mattered
on that fourth down. The game out man, like they were.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
They were fourth to four on fourth until that last
fourth when you had play to get them off the field.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yes, sir, Yes, great, great time.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Naw. I'm not gonna sit here and say it was
a it was a perfect game, you know. I mean,
it's some things that that we need to do. We
still almost gave them three hundred and seventy yards.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
We need to improve on our run game defense for sure.
When it comes down to it, we're throwing. I think
we're giving up a little over four yards of pop
you got. I think Drake, you know, the quarterback, he
added probably forty something yards of that just from scrambling.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know, if you take that away, but you can't
take that away. That's part of it. That's part of that.
That's that's part of the game.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Like we have to play well situational defense the third
and loans, you know, the fourth downs. I think some
guys were missing assignments because you got guys that are
just blown open, you know, So when you see things
like that, you know that's not that's not planned. In
the defense, I think we got to get we still

(09:46):
got to get better with being you know, getting getting
more pressure on the quarterback. But when you're ahead, you know,
that's one of the things we did well, you know
this week, is that we were ahead, we were able
to get that pressure. You're able to take some you
know chances, you know, depending on what it is. And uh,

(10:07):
the offense, dude, the offense, they need to be more consistent.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I just feel like if you could if you could
do that.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
In that in that first quarter and you know, make
the thing run like that, you can do that for
the rest of the game. It's about building the consistency
of it, getting into you know, getting into some type
of some.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Type of groove. Run.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Blocking always has to get better. I don't think we
had too much of an issue past blocking. Uh as
far as how that's how bad is it had been
you know the previous weeks. You see you see improvement.
I see improvement. I see improvement. But also we were
going against a defense that isn't isn't the top defense

(10:52):
I think, you know, just in the last couple of weeks,
and I think they may be twenty seven something like that.
Total it's only two weeks in, but it's still you know,
it's still tell me you.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Know, I'm with you one thousand percent on that.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I think that My biggest take is the still is
defense was mainly been, but don't break, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like we said, they made the plays.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
They were very opportunistic, being able to punch the ball out,
being able to create turnovers, that's huge, you know what
I'm saying. Five turnovers in the game speaks volumes. But
like to to your point, big explosive plays, we just
can't be giving up gashes of runs at ten yards
and so sometimes a big plays in the in the
back end, just leaving people wide open. There needs to
be a body on the body if they make a
play on you, and it's just good on good's that's

(11:36):
that's good, you know what I'm saying. But if somebody's
running Scott free down the field, there's a communication problem there,
there's an error where somebody shouldn't be running right down
our defense.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
So I think the defense is really good just making plays.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Turning over the ball five turnos, continue to get the
ball to your offense is unbelievable. But the big plays
like just execution, making sure everybody's body's on the body.
There's gonna be plays made, they're gonna you're gonna get more.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Somebody gonna juke you. But that's when you're on that man.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
If then somebody running Scott free down your defense into
the flat into the end zone, that just shouldn't be happening.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
So then with the offense, I'll go to them.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
When the defense keeps giving you the ball this many
times in this promised positions, you gotta keep the ball.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
You gotta not turn it over. You gotta score points,
you know what I'm saying. So I think that the
offense just being able to get a rhythm going be
able to get some like when we were looking at it,
they would turn the ball over, they would stop them
and then next you know, they would get it three
and out.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
That's not a big feeling, that's not a good vibe.
So defense was doing good. They could definitely do better
of matching up communication. They can't give up those runs.
Like you said, big plays going down the field. But
my thing was more just offense, we need some type
of rhythm, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
We need something more. I mean, like I said, we
did better.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
This is the first time Aaron Rodgers hasn't been sacked
in a game since twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh no, for sure, for sure we said the past
the past protection was good Pastor Jackson, like you said,
you were seeing improvement and for them to be able
to go down there.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
And they were also doing like that run game alternative
to quick Niles and all that get it out of
his hands, you know, that slows down people's rushes. You know,
they're trying to anticipate is it going to be that
you know, or is it actually going to be a past?
So that's that's a big thing. Like you said, the
five turnovers, that's huge. It's not like we're going to
you know, get a opportunity. I don't think to get

(13:22):
five turnovers again in a game. But with two of those,
you know, turnovers coming inside the still his five yard line,
you know, that's that's that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
That's something that you really don't count for.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
So bro, what the pick, Like you're thinking that you're
trying to at least let's just make sure they get
three not zero, and then two times in the road
they getting no points at all. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's that's great, that's great defense.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, so I said the assignment thing. So despite
the win, Cam Hayward had this to say, I think
sometimes we were, you know, not paying attention to our assignments.
Sometimes you can get a little thirsty in there. You know,
a thirsty man. You running for that sack? You ain't
You ain't paying attention to your assignment right there, He says,
this is just going to be a sneak or two.

(14:11):
But then on the flip side, it can make you
susceptible the big passes. We gotta keep our we gotta
have our eyes in the right place. And you know,
it's something, it's something we can learn from. Yeah, what's
your uh, what's your reactions to that? I really believe
that's exactly what he's saying. Like this, the mister signmons, guys,

(14:32):
just go ahead, you tell me what you are.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, you know, you know you're saying that, go ahead,
deep bo pop off.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, it's just missed the signments guys are when they
say thirsty, thirsty means you know, I'm out here either
running for a sack when I should be probably squeezing
down to keep this gap closed from the running back
being able to cut through it. Things like that. So
he's he's saying exactly what we were seeing. And you know,

(14:58):
like you said, it's something they can learn front hopefully
they can get it done and fix.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
It, because that's that's because, like you said too, that's
an accountability thing debo. And you know when when you're
a grown man, you watch a film and you watching
tape and you know that you had to squeeze instead
of trying to run for the sack. They can show
that on tape. They see you run up the field.
What are you supposed to be doing. I'm supposed to
be squeezing?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
So that play to run first and rush to the past,
rush to a lot of guys are just hoping, you know,
they're getsing right that it's going to be that pass
and they run up field and they leave that gap
hoping for that back to swerve back into. And now
you know, before somebody get to him, it's another you know,
three four or five six yards he gets past, you know,
the first the linebacker, inside backer, they get him held up.

(15:42):
You know, that's that's ten plus before he gets to you.
Know a safety or somebody that it's it's.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
A chain reaction because you gotta d lineman gotta the
linebacker's gotta trust that the d line is going to
be in his gap. He not just going to swing
it to the next gap to his spot. Sometimes every
play is not your play. This place is that you're
tapping to make and some dudes to be thirsty and
now I'm gonna make all the plays.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
This isn't your player to make. If you make sure
he doesn't come.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Here, the linebacker is gonna feel right there and he's
gonna get a tackle, and that's you did your job.
You know, it may not show up in the stat sheet,
but the team, everybody knows that guy was blocked. He
had to come through mind because you were staying in yours,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Say a lot of guys fall into doing that, especially
when you're losing or you're not you're not playing well.
A lot of guys are like, you know what, I'm
trying to put this on my shoulders.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I'm gonna do what's necessary.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
But in that process, you actually leave your teammates out
to hang because you're not taking care of your job
it's easiest and best thing that you can do is
take care of your job. You do what you're supposed
to do first, and then help your partner. That was
approaching the boat would always tell us, do your job first,
and then you can help your partner. Once your job
is taken care of, then you can help your partner.

(16:49):
Don't try and go and do somebody else's job.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
No, for sure, because how you're gonna build trust. He
can't trust that you're gonna be in your spot. So
now people trying to make up for what you're gonna
do going away from their stuff. Everybody do your one
to eleven. You know what I'm saying. If you do
your job, then it's built for somebody else, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
So not trying to make every play.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, at least we know my guy, Aaron Rodgers, he
made history, so yes he did. He's on He's fourth
now all time for touchdown passing NFL history. When they
asked him where it ranked in his career, he said,
I mean not super duper high.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
It means I played a long time. What do you
take from that? Well, you know, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think he appreciates it, but just living in a moment.
I know he thinks he got way more touchdown passes
to throw. It's an individual award and it's in the
middle of the season, so I think he's just trying
to just keep a team first. He's trying to keep
that narrative off that he's really all about hisself. I
think it definitely means something to him. He's been playing
a long time in the league and it's a lot
of touchdowns with not a lot of interceptions. His touchdown

(17:59):
interception of ratio, it's probably the best and ever to
do it.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
So I mean, I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
For him, and I think he is too, But I
think that he's just trying to take the humble approach and.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Just try to be like, it really doesn't matter. At
the end of the day. Our offense isn't playing too
well right now.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm not going too many touchdowns, Like I had a
touchdown past the DK and we had two touchdowns today.
But it's not like he's used to throwing four touchdowns
a game for four hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
That's just an a rod day.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
So him him throwing one hundred and thirty nine yards
for two touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
And a pick. It's nothing for him to row rob about.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
So he's like this, this is not the time for
me to go talk about how many touchdown passes I've
thrown when I just threw two and I do one
hundred and thirty nine yards, two touchdowns and a pick,
and the offense has to look that good.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
So I think he's end of the day, a Rod
knows what it is. He's a Rod for sure, no
matter what. Can't nobody saying nothing about it. But at
this particular moment, they're not playing too good. He's not
performing at his type of level. So he's just gonna
take it the humble approach.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think he's going and just you know, he's not
trying to put a lot of attention on that because
that's something that you look at when you're done playing
and say, okay, yeah I did that right now you're
in the moment, you're focusing to the next game. And
I actually I actually like that. I like that quota,
like that approach it. I mean it just so he's
like especially he's especially the way they talk about him,

(19:16):
like how they say he is you know you hear
from that doesn't sound like the person that they, you know,
try and portray him ass you know from other media.
The Stellers trolled the Patriots though after the win. They
posted they posted references to actors with Boston ties.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
They had Matt Damon in.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Goodwill Honey, Mark Wahlberg in the movie from the movie Ted,
and then the team shared a video of a w
on wheels being parked at Heart check it.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Out Now arrived at Harvard Yard.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
They don't like the Patriots, man, They don't like the Patriots, man.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I was geeked up.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
They both in my interception back in twenty eighteen. First
them on their Instagram page, I knew they was like, yeah,
I think that might have been the last time they won.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, bro, listen, I'm not I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I don't care about it one way or the other,
to be honest with you, because I never watched Goodwill Hunting,
so I don't know what the reference of that is.
And the Ted thing, I mean, it's it's corny.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
They Loki missed me with all of it. Brother with them,
I was like this, it was weak. Yeah, okay, I
ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
They got they got a little little weak media team
over there that that that.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Listen, man, listen, listen here. Let me let me hit
you with this, Let me hit you with this.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So, so they're playing Seattle, right, I'm at the game.
They're playing Seattle. Things is going you know, renegade. Yeah,
these dummies play Renegade.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Their kickoff team is about to kick off to y'all
to us. Oh no, the Seattle Seahawks are on the sideline,
jumping up and.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Down, wading they towels turn up.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Who is in control of that? Needs to not be
in control of that? No more, that's not the right time. Never,
it's not the right time. Never you're hyping them up
to go kick the ball off. I'm gonna give you
another example. When you when we used to play the
Pro Bowl after the after the Super Bowl. So we

(22:11):
won the Super Bowl, we went down there. That was
like two thousand and eight or whatever it was, right,
and we down there and you know how they introduced
Ray when he come out in Baltimore. Yes, So we're
sitting over there, you know, we're getting chummy, we talking
whatever that I die And we made the mistake of
telling them boys like yo, hey right hey, we like

(22:32):
to see you come up out of there. Boy, you
come down there, you get you some artificial grass. Ya
ain't even got you ain't even got real grass. They
put you a clump of a real grass. They put
him a clump of real grass. They playing three songs.
Were like, dude, we'd be sitting over there with the rookies,
be like, hey, hey watch when they call raal this shit,
go get you hype brot man.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
They found that out. Man, we ain't see Ray come
out the tunnel again.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Man. When we played they smart, Yo, we ain't get
to see Ray come out the tunnel again. We're like, Yo,
they gonna play three songs for this dude. Man, he
gonna come out to one, he gonna look around, I said,
they go play the other one.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
That's when he go reach down and grab that grass off.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
And then as soon as they hit that third one,
he go go ahead and hit the dance.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
That was one of that had to be the most
lit intro. Bro. He's like a wrestler that had us
hype bro. He was like, oh yeah, we about to
smash these boys. That's crazy. Man.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
We ain't get man, we ain't get no more defensive intro.
When we played them, man, they was introducing the offense
all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Bah, for sure, I'm not doing nothing to get y'all
hype man.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
We had a couple of season in the injuries though, man,
oh yeah, Na tours Tours Achilles Man and James Connor.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I believe there's something to his ankle. Dang, they don't
know exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't think they know exactly what Connor did to us,
but uh now Ja popped the acillites though. Damn man,
you can see you can see it when he steps
like it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh my goodness, he had prayers of the nag and James,
both of them for sure.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Really good dude. If I ended up playing I played
with both of them.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Did you did you end up playing with James or yeah,
I played with I played with uh Connor.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I didn't play with Noah. I don't think so. Both
solid solid solid. I don't think I did.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
He is dead, you know, so you know, I guess
now is the time to let you oh, don't talk
about about the Brownies brown.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Oh okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
So the Browns beat the Packers thirteen to ten. Oh such,
you know, such a great game. You know, they finally
got a win.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
You know, hey, man, let me tell you something. Debo devo.
It's my time, real quick. It's my time, real quick.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
All right.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Any given Sunday is what I like to say. Because
the Packers, the Brows weren't given a chance, not a
chance in the world to.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Be goa lie.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I gave them a chance, though you ain't give them
a chance. I promise you this, And bru, I'm gonna
tell you why I gave them boys a chance. Why
did you give them a chance? This is why I
gave them boys a chance. Please tell me why. People
don't realize this. But Cleveland, as of right now, it's
number one defense, bro Yes, number one in the rush.
And that's what I want to talk. Number three in

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the past. Now, even if you go the last three games, dude,
oh well, maybe people ain't running the ball.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
They didn't do this, they didn't do that. The last
three games.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
They still holding people to like two point three yards
of pop.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Two two two two three two four something like that. Dude.
They play listen.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
They played Cincinnati, were the four team, they played ball
more and now they just played Green Bay. They held
Cincinnati to forty six rushing. They held the Ravens to
forty five rushing. Green Bay got the most at eighty
one yards rushing, which was still only like two five

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two six a carried. Nobody has gotten more than two
hundred and forty fifty yards on these dudes, Bro, like
this defense. Dude held the Ravens to two forty two,
Cincinnati to one forty one, and Green Blay to two thirty. Dude,
you held Green Bay to two thirty. It's looking like

(26:39):
they just need the offense to not turn the ball over, Bro,
and the special teams to do their part like this.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
If the offense doesn't turn the.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Ball over, man, the defense continues to play like this,
they will be in the fight every game. And this
is sort of scary when you think about it.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
This is what I'm trying to tell you, Debo.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
The Browns defense, it's always good, always solid, not like this.
No no no, no no no, not like this, no no, no, no,
no no no. But the Browns and they're always going
to be competitive, and especially not with this with this defense,
with Malie Collins, with Alex Right, with Miles Garrett, that

(27:24):
pass rush them getting after the quarterback. They were putting
so much pressure on Jordan Love. He was uncomfortable the
entire game. And like you said, you've been speaking good
facts about the way that their rushing. Their rushing defense
is good, their passing defense is good, their secondary Greg Newsom,
we got.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
No bombs now.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
They don't play it against teams that are a good quality.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
And you know who else is hooping? My man Delpit.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
He's actually ever since he opened his mouth, he's gonna
put eyes on itself. He's been doing nothing but hooping,
making tackles, making game change and plays and accepting the ball.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
And then when he ran did you see after he
made the pick and he.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Ran and ran, Jordan Love smack over get off MeTL
I just just everything you got to see them. Oh,
it was crazy. So the Browns defense plays unbelievable. And
I'm super happy for that kicker too, because he missed
the extra point and he missed the field goal in
Week one. People been trying to get him fired. So
my man Schmidt. Shout out to Schmidt for making the

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longest field goal walk off in franchise history.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Cool, I did not know that one. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
So then the defense just played so good that they
only gave up ten points. And in that fourth quarter, nothing,
nothing at all. So shout out to the Browns defense
for coming out there and bawling. Shout out to the
kicker for coming out there and making that game winning
field goal walk off, longest in franchise history. Yeah, I'm

(28:47):
just very happy for the Browns because the defense plays
so well. The offense they did what they had to
do in certain situations. You know, oh my bad, my bad.
The rookies junkins. My running back number ten, he put
the offense on his back when he needed to. He
was running that ball at the fourth quarter like a
man possessed. So Flac though didn't really have to do
too much. We just handed it off to the rookie

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and he told us he took us to the promised
land on the offensive side. So shout out to him
and the fourth Shout out the defense for the whole
game fighting only giving up ten points to the Packers.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Let's go right, like like ten points and still only
was it two hundred and thirty yards? Like that's to
the Packers. That's that's crazy. That's just saying I would
like I said, I thought like they had a fighting chance,
they just needed I don't believe you not, dude, Honestly,

(29:39):
I swear I thought they had a fighting chance.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Start.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm looking at a week, the week starts, I'm gonna start.
We gotta start asking what are we thinking back going
into the game. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'll
let you know. I thought they have a fighting chance, bro.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
And it was all because the defense, as long as
they don't turn the ball over.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
They get they get.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
They give the defense a little time to rest, you know,
try and get a field gold here and there, just
you know, get get six to eight, play drive something,
give them time to recoup, get their stuff together and
get back out there.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's yeah, that was a good It was a good
display on both sides too, because at the end of
the day, Green Bay, their defense only gave up.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
They gave up thirteen points. You know what I'm saying.
They didn't. They didn't do too bad. The Browns end up.
I mean, it was basically to say the Browns defense
outplayed they did.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's really That's really what it what it came down to.
You know, Like I said, I gave them a fighting chance,
but I didn't think they would win. But I did
give them a fight.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
I gave them a fighting chance I gave. I'm like, yo,
they got a fighting chance.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
But it's a lot of things that go into it,
you know, especially when you're talking about the offense side
of the ball.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
You know. Yeah, I'm not going about to you. I didn't.
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I didn't expect the defense to hold Jordan Love to
looking like that, especially like going into the third Jordan
Love made a couple of arrant decisions to running onto
the sideline not throwing them all away going into the
fourth quarter, and then just a couple of those like.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I didn't understand that, like you right there, you right there?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, and then a couple of those dump like a
couple of those third downs passes to the running back
just high, just way out of bounds, like they couldn't
even really touch the ball. So just a couple of
those plays looked a little crazy. Then the then the
game winning pick, then the play when he threw the
slant right to him like looking right at Dell pick,
fell fell right off of his man and throw the pick.
So I didn't think that Jordan Loved the Browns out

(31:35):
out smart him at the end, and they just looked uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah, especially like like I said, the defense, it's
just dude, they this was the first take away this
year and their one, one, three and you are just
plus one or sorry, you only have one you know,
takeaway this year on defense? You know how like stellar

(32:02):
and solid. They gotta be playing dude, That's what I'm saying.
Like Michael Parson said after the games, after the game,
sometimes just sometimes, just like today, you shop the bed.
This is just the reality. This is just the reality
of it. It happens to the best, to the best teams,

(32:23):
even the best Super Bowl champions make mistakes and they
pay for it early. You got to go back to
the history of the champions, who've played who, of the
history of the champions and who they've played in the
games they should have won. It's just that competitive. I
know what he's talking about for sure. And come on,

(32:45):
d BO, we know that's he said. They shipped the bed.
Dan't dan't. They ain't shit the bed. No, y'all walk
to the stadium them dudes get paid.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
And when you think about going against Miles and all
that stuff, you're walking in there to and oh, thinking
it's sweet. You better go in there knowing you're about
to be in a real fight. No matter what they
records talking about this defense, don't play you know what
I'm saying. So if your office is, oh, yeah, we
about to go in here, you know what I'm saying,
figure it out. We're gonna beat the Browns.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
No you're not. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Every game is a different game any given Sunday. That's
why they really said, because the levels it's so it's
so competitive in the league, and there's so much team
like that, there's there's a balance, like everybody's around the same,
everybody's salary cap is the same.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
For a reason.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
These dudes are getting paid. Also, you know what I'm saying.
They may not figure out a way to always win it,
but once they get out there, these dudes are hooping.
So you can lose any state and you can lose
any game that you walk into.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh yeah, no question.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
It's that it's just a small difference between you know,
a guy that's you know, starting, a guy that's on
practice squad, between the guy that's a you know, uh
on the edge of that of that Pro Bowl all
pro like. It's it's not it's not, it's not a
lot of difference. It's about working and being able to
be consistent. Like the consistency is the it's the hard

(34:02):
thing I think. I mean, but it's the average. Three
and a half years is average NFL career. So you
know that's all. But the Browns, Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
They scare me a little bit, like I don't think
I'm gonna be making no bets when when we play
unless you know, I talked to you. I talked to you.

(34:22):
Shoot me off line, off line. So the Egos they
beat the Rams. Last second field goal got blocked and
then he ran it in. He really didn't need to
run it in. So man, he took that thing for six.
That's the big man.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Was hall in.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, for sure. They blocked two field goals, right, yes, yeah, yeah,
they got two field goals. Last time they blocked two
field goals was September twenty first, seventy five against the Giants.
Five years to the day, history repeated this time walk
off winning Yo.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Rams came in there. Hey, they did what everybody.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Thought they needed to do to beat the Eagles, and
that was stopped Saquin and it did not.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
It worked for the first half. It worked.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
It worked for the first half and your boy Hurst.
That boy went out there in the second half. I
think the third quartery was like ten or twelve. I
think for the second half he ended up like seventeen
to twenty four for two teen three tugs like and
special teams coming through at the end with the with

(35:38):
the game saving block.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yes, like can he do it? Yes? We just got
the answer. We got it. We did. We didn't we didn't.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
We didn't have an answer last last time we made
this question. But I think right now we got confirmation
that he can that he can't get it done. So
what are what did you think a half time though, Brad.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like this is at halftime, I'm thinking, Okay, the Rams
defense that's stopping the run, they haven't really thrown the ball.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
They're going to have to open up.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
The playbook, you know what I'm saying, Like they're they're
loading the box.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
We're not letting the ball go. I knew that they.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Were Jayalen Hurst was gonna have to eventually start throwing
the ball. And when he did start throwing the ball,
it showed Davonte Smith and my man my man aj
Brown were just playmakers. They were doing one on ones
out there, one on one they had him in one
on one covers because they were trying to stop the run.
They were making sure. They're like, look, you're gonna throw
the ball. And when he was the man one on

(36:38):
ones out there, aj Brown was making those catches and
they ain't getting yacked breaking the tackle.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Individual get off me and now let me get up
the field. It was opening up the playbook.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
So then once they started doing that two high safeties,
you can now run the ball little bit better.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
So it was just able to the offense.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
They only had thirty three yards in the first half
and it was negative one yard passing.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Brother, Like, you have to do something. You had to
change it up. They were smashing that run, so then
you had to let Jay Hurts just use your weapons
throw the ball. Like if you're saying, we know you can,
you don't have to. But in this particular situation, the
run is getting stopped. You can develop the pass too.
You can open up the run bypassing. If they have
the thing boxed up, show them dudes that you can

(37:20):
go one on one on the outside and they would
have to back up the safeties. They would have to
back up the corner. You know what I'm saying. Then
then you can start handing the ball off the Sa Kwan.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
So I think, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I think I think the Eagles did what people were
allowing them to do at that at that time, and
that was you know, why would I complicated if I know,
running this rock and doing a pass here and there
is what's going to get it done?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Like that's you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Simple, you know, like like like they said, you know,
if you can't stop it, why would I stop running it?
You know, I feel And we got we got to
the point to where they were like, yo, if you're
going to beat us, you're not going to beat us
with him.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I'm running all over us.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
You're gonna have to figure out how you go get
that ball down the field.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
And then they were like, oh shit, oh we do
have AJ Brown. You do have a J.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Brown.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
And you guys too, if you're down twenty six to
six or something like that, you like, if you keep
running the ball.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Answer like, come on, You're eventually not gonna score no points.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean, the time is eventually gonna run out, so
you're gonna have to start airing the ball.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I think they did really good.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
They're being able to change it up from Jaylor hurt,
showing he can toss the rock. And then the Rams
still played a good They still had a chance to
win the game, but the buddy blocked the field goal.
Two special teams blocks. They had two. They had two
field goal blocks. And then there was a.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Bunch of field goals blocked this Sunday, dude, there was
a bunch of them.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
The games were crazy, all of the football games a while.
But then at the same time, the Rams, I would say,
the reason why they had two field goal blocks and
in the red zone they were one for four and
scoring touchdowns. They got field goals out of it, but
they got no touchdowns they got they got one touchdown
and three field goals.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
That's sixteen points.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
If you get two touchdowns, you know what I'm saying,
and then then two field goals.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
You lost by a little bit of points.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
But just not being able to convert in the red zone,
being able to only come up with one touchdown out
of four trips. You gotta score on those drives. And
I think that's kind of what will hurt the most up.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, for sure, man.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mean, like I said, he came alive in the
second half and he actually ended the they Philly ended
the game with more passing yards than the Rams did
two two to one one, Like that's crazy. Aj Brown
said that after the game. Personally, I truly believe we've
got some good players on this team, and at times

(39:47):
you can feel like we're being conservative, and I don't
think it should be like that.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Let let your killers do their thing.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Let your killers do their thing and play fast and
play a great not saying that we haven't been, but
me personally.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
That's what I would like.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
So he's saying that they was holding him back, He's
saying there was. Well, they wouldn't hold him back. They
was doing what was working. You know, if I don't
need to change it, why would I change it? Why
would I complicate? You know what I'm putting in if
I know that these six plays is go get it done,
and ain't nobody been able to do nothing about it? So,

(40:27):
I mean, I understand what he's saying, and I understand
the thought process of just doing what it is that's
working and make them stop it before you change it.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I could see it both ways, but I feel you.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I think I can see the same thing you said
both ways. You're not if you're gonna run the ball,
and it's not esthetically pleasing to you. It doesn't matter.
As long as you're winning games. You're gonna be able
to get out of the stadium and it's working. But
I can feel them when you're down by nineteen points
and you need to start airing it out. They had
an option like, Okay, now we need to start passing
the ball. You could do that a little bit earlier
in the game, just knowing if the run's not working

(41:04):
and they're still and they're manning up outside, don't run
it when they're manning up outside single high. Now let's
go to the past. Just being able to kind of
switch it up. The looks from the defense kind of
shows what we're doing. So I think just making sure
that if the run is working, we're.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Gonna run the ball.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
We're gonna do what we have to do to win.
It's not because it's what looks good. It's not because
what everybody else is saying or whatever. What we're gonna
do is what we have to do to win games.
Sometimes that's gonna be throwing the ball a lot more.
Sometimes that's gonna be running the ball a lot more.
But we have the options to do both. So I'm
feel them with just wanting to get more involved, wanting
to do like, look, end of the day, when it's

(41:39):
the second half, you see what I'm capable of when
you do just throw me the ball. When the ball
is in my hands, I can make plays. So I
understand what he's saying. But at the same time, with
the team, we're trying to win games. We're gonna hand
the ball off the sae quond. We're milking this clock.
If they start coming up like this, I know what
you're saying. Now, obviously we're gonna get to that, probably
a little bit earlier. But it's only the third game
of the season. They're undefeated. They're going through these problems

(42:00):
while they're still winning games, so it's a whole lot
easier to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, I like. I like an offense that runs the ball.
That's just that's just me because it gives you time
for your defense to rest, and on top of that,
it wears down their offense. It takes time off the clock,
you know, everything. If you can run the ball effectively,
it's so much easier and it runs smooth. You know
when you can do that, especially, you know you go

(42:27):
six seven minutes here.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
You get two of those drives together, you know, and uh,
your two three of those drives together in a half,
and you know the game after two three we're into
the second half already. If you're able to score touch
touchdowns and your defense can get off the field and
not loud them to score, I mean, it's no need to,
you know, stop doing what's what's effective.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
But I'm a few depot because there's nothing like a
team running down, running down your throat that you can't stop. Yeah,
for sure, the clock is still running, they're head of
the sticks. Is second for they've run a five, it's
a first down. There's nothing you can do about it.
It feels like, all right, let's reset that, let's rest
that ahead of the sticks. But every time they toke
the ball, if they're head of the sticks and the

(43:10):
clock is still running and they're just moving the chains,
there's nothing worse than that. Then you're sitting there like this, guys,
let's stop them, like what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Do something? Do something? Man.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
The Eagles got away with another touch push. Man, they
got away with a false starter and the tooth.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Push in the first quarter. Do you uh, do.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
You think it's time to ban the touch push? I say,
review every touch push. You want to review and slow
down when somebody is tackling somebody or you're calling some
type of hip drop or something like that, Like you're
reviewing that.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Review the touch push. Like you said, they can't move period.
They can can.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Move as long as you're not in the new you
can't move at all before that ball snap. So I
don't care if it's a split hair before. It's no
way you saw the ball move. You're just guessing. You're anticipating,
you're guessing. Yes, So that's like, that's like one of
those dreints.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I know.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I was the edge on the field goal block, and
some of those field goal blockers there, I mean some
of the holders, they'll look down, look up and flash
the hand, and as soon as that hand flashes, the
ball is coming out. So we would be taught. Sometimes
we go in there and study and study.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
And coach you like this.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
If I give you to go, go off the hand,
like if it's for the game winner, right, get it, man, listen,
We're gonna go at the same time. As soon as
he flashes, the ball's coming We're not looking at the ball.
I'm looking at his hand that is going the same
time you're taking off.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
So I'm like.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
There there could be some type of anticipation there on
the offense, but that's.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Not legal, no question. You can't move into that ball. Move,
can't move into the ball?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Snap.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah, they clearly can uh can't get with can't even
get that corrected at the point it out.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I think they got they got every and that'll make
it fair. That's that's the only thing I can can
I can I can see happening.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
But time will make it fairly.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Bo review every touch push, Yes, yes, it should be
an automatic review. You do a touch push, it's an
automatic review. We got to see if you all size
or if you fall start and.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
It could be quick review or like we don't got
to have a reference like this. Look at that.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Tell us y'all got super slow mode. You saw buddy
take off before reffing. Nope, jump quick like, we don't
need you to take all day. They see what's going on, So.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I'm with you. Quick review.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Listen, man, the bears, the Bears went out and did
that to them girls.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
That was the most surprising. That was the most spories, man,
that was for sure. That was sure, for sure. Caleb
went on head out there. He let him up fo tu.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I think he finally got that paint off his nail
so he could throw.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
That ball right. See there you go, worry about the wrong.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I was just saying, that's change the equilibrium all that,
you know.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
I don't know he went out there.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Everybody, let me tell you something that was crazy though,
Go ahead, what you think about that was crazy though, Debo.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Listen, I'm not I'm not even gonna make like I
expected that.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
I didn't. I didn't expect that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
And Dallas is not who we was thinking they might become.
And they are who they have been, and that is it. Like,
I don't know, man, You let Calor Williams go out there,
and you know, he's the first player with two hundred

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and twenty five plus passing yards and three or more
passing touchdowns in any half the season.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
He's the first one. The same guy that man, he
was having trouble of.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
The previous probably the first two weeks bad. I mean, like,
I don't understand it. In Dallas, their defense is just
boom boom, man, Like it's bad. You got five touchdown
passes on Dallas that are twenty five yards or more
like this season, Like, that's crazy already, it's only three

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games in.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
It did not look good from the from the from
the fleet flickers to people running wide open on over rolle.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Dude, and then CD and then and got hurt the
very first court like that was that was bad.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Rode his ankle. We had George, he was, he was
doing something. But when you can't the pass that Dack
through to him hit him right in the hands. That
turned into a pick. We just can't can't be having that.
So yeah, and then the CD lamb too. Like when
we said they were they were getting bombed up over
with the tight ends and stuff running up the field.

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We had my man trade on Diggs. It's slipping when
they're playing man the man. He runs like ten ten
yards wide open down the field for the touchdown.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I think that was that fleet flicker. No, no, the
fleet flicker. That was when he ran a big seven
route on that. But I'm saying the one with CD
was him in a number. Oh okay, he went Quiam,
he went the quick jammer. Yes, yes, yes, just plays
like that man, and then on the offensive side, they
weren't really able to get anything too much going, you know,

(48:28):
like I mean, ceed going down definitely didn't help George
make it dropping some passes, but.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I mean, well, it was still kind of late in
the game. Don't know if that would have been an
actual comeback, But the one that tipped and got intercepted,
I don't know if they still would have been able to.
You know what I liked that I saw Chicago doing
when they got up and Dallas was trying to drive,

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they stuck with playing the defense they had been playing
all game. They didn't go to that sit back, keep
everything in front of me and inside defense.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Dude, make everything.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yes, yes, they made him earn everything. And when it
came down and when it came down to it, they
they just couldn't. They couldn't finish it out. It was
it was too much. Plus they had, you know, they
had lost the number one receiver, so.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
That that looks bad.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
But Jerry, you know, he still believes the Cowboy or
Cowboys are play off calendar.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
My braces be popping me up.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Despite the one and two start man, he says, they
they still they still play off caliber.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
But man, what do you think? I don't think. I mean,
they gotta, they gotta. You can't, you gotta can't. You
can't just be I don't, I don't, I don't know,
I don't. I would say this, who do you think

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it is going to make it? From their side?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I'm looking at you got Minnesota, you got Green Bay,
you got Detroit, right, Washington?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Uh, Detroit, Green Bay, Washington.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
That's for sure. How many is it six or eight?
It's eight now, right? I think it might be eight now,
I mean they got a shot, you.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Know what, playoff. They could be playoff caliber. What you're
gonna do, what you're gonna do, you could be playoff caliber.
But I don't think you're gonna do nothing. I mean hopefully,
like I mean, playoff caliber. The Cowboys always have so
much talent, so much.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Talent Arizona and same frand over there too.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Right, yeah, I mean it's but let's see in the division,
they either they win the division or get a or
get a wildcoff spot. And that's what I'm saying. It's
gonna be. It's Philly. No, it's the Commanders, it is
the Giants, and it's the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah, come and say they they coming.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
In three, and then you still got That's what I'm
trying to do, man, Like, I don't know about that.
They might not be if they tell you it's gonna
be eight and they're gonna be playing at somebody else's
venue and then.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
They're gonna then it's like, but but then, what you
know what I'm saying, Like, so him was looking for
was playoff caliber. He's always looking for his playoff caliber.
Like you know what I'm saying, he knows the end
of the day. I was watching the Jerry the the
Dynasty joint on the on the Cowboys loved it amazing.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
It's all ain't no more dynasties, man, they kick rocks. Man,
it's all with Jerry. Always ain't been in board since
I was just getting into high school. Jerry not tripping though,
because he got that dough. Jerry tripping. He want to win, man,
Don't don't get me wrong, that do helps.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
He definitely, he definitely want to win. He definitely want
to win.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
But I'm just saying like he's not going to get
rid of any control. He's not going to let anybody
else make any decisions. So he gonna do what he
wants to do regardless.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
For sure, that's that's a given, though.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
But he wants to win, dude, I know I don't
think he does. I think he definitely wants to win.
I know he wants to win.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I know it hurts when they when they don't win,
it hurt bad.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
The show the pros out here, Man, they're doing things though. Man,
they bopped on up. They bopped on the Titans. Man
forty forty one to twenty. Like, I don't what they
got going on over there.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
That's his name, you know his name, de Bro. What's
what's the quarterback name? Danny Jones? Man, it's Danny Dimes.
For now we go call the day. I don't he's
pulling the Saint Kwon Barkley. Okay, Yes, he had to
get out of New York. Had to sometimes. What's over

(52:59):
there in New York? Man, it's I don't know. I
don't know. I ain't been there. I ain't been there
in the Giants locker, I ain't been there. So I'm
not going to speak on them about something I don't know.
But I could tell you the coach is doing something.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Wow, I think they they punted what the first time
this week? Was it one or they only punted one
or two times this week? Like the two punts all season,
two punts in three games.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Brother, Like, that's efficiency. That is keeping your defense off
the field, that is putting you in a position to win.
That is everything, and not Jonathan Taylor the ru I
mean when you had that, did you see.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
The run dude?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Like they didn't, I don't a bowling ball, Like they
couldn't do nothing with him, Like he was breaking everything
running three people, bro running throw them past them.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yes, they look they look good. They look good.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Danny Dimes out there throwing the ball beautifully. And then
with Taylor, you know what I'm saying, being able to
tow the ball so good, Like I like what they
got going on over there. And sometimes, like you said,
it wasn't Daniel Jones. Obviously, sometimes you gotta just change
your scenery. Go somewhere else where you don't feel like
all of the its not all on you. You got people
that are doing their jobs around you.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
That one to eleven, all you guys man his name.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Tell they was about to fire the GM and uh
and the head coach over Sakwan.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Last year.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Now hold up and I hold up now, Danny Dines, Hey,
y'all ain't doing something right over there? Man, y'all ain't.
I don't know what's going on, but something gotta change.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I don't know. Listen, you know, had two come.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Up and the boy got a Super Bowl and he
over there stroking that thing like we thought that he
would have been out to leave by now.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
And now he go over there and just revamp. He raised.
Wasn't Richardson over there or something take the job from him? Yeah? Yeah,
And they were talking.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
They was laughing, like, oh now you got Richardson and
Daniel Jones fighting for the starting quarterback position, Like all
right now they look amazing.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Dame Jones has done nothing but perform.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Like I'm super happy for him because sometimes, like you said,
it's the scenery, like he's nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
That's the same Daniel Jones that was in New York.
And maybe it was too much to see in New York.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
That was the thing.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Everybody see too much. They get something that was a
little a little less. Get to a little more chill, Yeah,
a little more chill.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Just go to Indiana and you can go, you know
what I'm saying. Go see the pacers go chill and
then you know, vibe up, handle business.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
You ain't got you ain't gotta worry about, you know,
Papa Rossi and all that.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Huh oh, you ain't gotta worry about the New York
lights all that too much.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Like his eyes, Big.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Dude Russell over there right now. He he getting booed
by the Giants fan. They they hollering for Jackson Dark
like the Chiefs went over there and beat the Giants
twenty two to nine.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Little sideline scuffle, little son scuffle.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
You know, Kelsey and Kelsey and and and really they
like to bump chests at the nine.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Just get them going, I think, just gonna rejuvenate them,
get them, get them where they need to go.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
They got they got a tight bomb. Bro.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Those dudes are homies. They talk and they kicking. They're
gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, bro. So they said he's he's going to get
him fired. No way said it's aid. It's a I
believe it.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
See the rush of Daniel Jones, one of them, either
the way Rush playing or the way uh Daniel Jones
is playing, one of them.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Or if both.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
With your boy name that bow go Dave Bodo deve Bo, Yeah,
Dave Bo, Yeah, he better.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
They might get him. They might be looking for a
new job after after this year.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Man, it ain't it ain't looking too sweet over there.
Did they win a game yet?

Speaker 4 (57:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
And Russell looked but like I think they tried to
get Russell a little least.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Out there out there hanging people out the drive.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
They're trying to kill him. He trying to get receivers.
He's trying to get people killed.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
He got himself some string because of last week when
he made them two, when he brought them back with
those bombs to keep them in the game. They still
end up losing, but it looked it looked like I
thought they was going to beat the Cowboys last week,
and then this week it just got ugly out there.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I think maybe, uh, every every bond Me throw was
either intercepted or way off. I've seen him do that
like with the Steelers, like he would he would throw
a past and it's like you're not even giving a
guy a chance to even you know, catch it, because
it's like so far off or out of bounds. I
don't know if that's just him not wanting to get
an interception, or I don't.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I don't know what it.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Is because that's normally his that's normally his best passed.
But what did they was he getting hit? Was the
pressure looking like? Was the pressure looking crazy?

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Not?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Really? Yeah? Really, bro, they got to get up out
of there. I don't think. I don't think, Brian, you
gave all up out of there?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Man, he didn't general, he didn't let Daniel Jones go,
and he didn't let say Kwan walk.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Isn't that the management balling?

Speaker 3 (58:42):
They both bawling, crazy balling. Both of them are not
like upper m VP bowling.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Everybody was talking about old old Danny Dines was hey, man,
he ain't go ahead get rid of me. He can't.
He can't playing the league. That's what they was. That's
what everybody was saying. Like this right here, this right here,
tell me.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Something.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
They're being done correctly over there, Like this dude playing
at would MVP level right now.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
You just if you just took away the name and
didn't know it was him and said, hey, his numbers,
that's the crazy thing.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
I'm like, it's Daniel Jones, that's what that's what.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
The number dude, So you gotta go blind stats with
it and be like this, Oh, man, that dude right
there is balling, and then you'll see his picture, Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
You're like this, damn, that's Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
He's hooping, so he's deserving his numbers if you didn't
just take it away from the history, if you know
about him, that dude's.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Balling right now. Dude, you know be wild coach Eagles
super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Oh, that'd be crazy and being.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Being the war Horses. Boy, everybody getting fired.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Coats win the Super Bowl, Bro, Daniel Dimes and everybody
from uh, everybody go over in New York's getting fired
because they didn't let go two Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Trying to get somebody fired. Man, don't be doing that.
Don't be doing that. Maybe you don't want to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Hey, I'm just saying if it was me, I would
I can't own a team though, because I think I would.
I wouldn't hire that type of I wouldn't. I think
I wouldn't. I feel like I would know better. I
would know people that know ball and know how to

(01:00:42):
how to how to use.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
And and and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Compliment their players. You know what I'm saying, Like, like
you got to make these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Feed into believe something. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I think when you get players that are respected that
can actually coach, and you make them coaches and you
have players coming in that know them as a level
of respect and that ration that comes with that just
from that being your coach. You know what I'm saying, Like,
you know, yeah, yeah, and I think that you know,

(01:01:21):
it's something that I don't know if a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Owners or or.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Head coaches that are in that position actually look at.
But it's an automatic like buying, you know what I'm saying,
Like for sure you got you got Joe Hayden, he coaching,
he coaching the corners. You know what I'm saying, that's
an automatic buying because I say, look at your body

(01:01:52):
of work and say, Okay, he could tell me something
that maybe fucking impossible or close to impossible, but he's
telling me this because he's done it. He knows it's difficult.
That was one of the things with Coach Buffs. I
was like, Bus is the greatest linebacker coach I ever had,
And I'm like, it's easy to relate to him because

(01:02:15):
he's going to be like, yo, I know this is hard.
I know it's difficult, but this is what I need
you to do, or at least try and get done.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I know it's hard, We've done it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Everybody got something a little dirty about their job, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Like sometimes as a corner you gotta come in there. Well,
you used to be able to cut him down, but
now you've got risking your life running up in there
on that suite, right, Sometimes you gotta go there, you
know what I'm saying. It's the same thing with Ay.
Sometimes you go be sitting in that sixth and the

(01:02:51):
tackle on the tight end go doub You gotta find
a way to hold that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
You gotta rideup a dirt and stay in there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
You blew out of there, You're leaving your other teammates
out to dry, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Yeah, and that was good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Like the New York the Jets coach Aaron Glenn, he
was my defensive back coach at Cleveland, and like you said,
and then Cordell Lake was my defensive back coach for
the Steelers. Those two dudes just being able to tell me, like,
you can't cover everything, but when I tell you, like
at the end of the day, on this coverage we're.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Not let we're now we're not allowing this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
But if this happens, catch and tackle, move on to
the next play. Like some coaches will tell you that
you got to be able to cover everything. But if
you're trying to cover everything, you're not covering nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Hey, coaches to tell you, man, they don't make sense
with that. Coaches that try and change defenses, like the
defense is how it is, but you want to change
it to catch this one nuance. And that was something
that coach Laboul would tell us. He'd be like, Okay,
look we go run this defense. And every defense has
a weakness. Once you try and cover that weakness, you

(01:03:55):
make another two or three and you want to cover.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
So he's like, yo, we go run this defense.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Coase Lebo didn't even use a call sheet, dude, it'd
be on the sideline like this'd be like, all right,
what they got out there? Oh it's twenty two person
that all right, we're gonna run this right here. Blah
blah blah, go out there and run it. And he'll
tell us we're get in the film room. Hey, okay,
I called blah blah blah right here. Hey, this play
is on me. I know they got I know they
got eight yards. This on me, you know what I'm saying.

(01:04:22):
So like Dick Lebow's defense, Dude, when it is ran
correctly pure as he has assigned it, that thing is unstoppable.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Dude, it's unstoppable.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I love it the way that they because they the
way that they coach it too, like you said, knowing
that something might pop off and the coach being able
to take accountability that we can't cover everything, but on
this play, we just get them on the ground, get
to the next one. All right, that's on me, that's
on the call. Like, that's what's that's our weakness right there.
They hit a s. That's a good play. Sometimes they can.
They gonna win something. We're gonna win more than they do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
You know what I'm saying. It's like it's a chess
game out there, no question, dude. Hey look here, man,
we're running over right here. Oh yeah, we over Listen.
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