October 13, 2025 • 59 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a wild NFL Sunday! The Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Cleveland Browns, the Kansas City Chiefs beat the Lions on Sunday night Football, and the Packers dominate Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals and much more!
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00:00 - Steelers beat Browns
20:20 - Rams beat Ravens
29:10 - Colts Pregame Warmup Injuries
36:00 - Chargers beat Dolphins - Tua Snitch
47:40 - Denver Beats Jets
55:55 - Chiefs beat Lions
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to DBO and Joe. I'm your host, James Harrison,
and I'm here with my co host Joe. Huh Hayden.
Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't. You
don't want to miss nothing. How you're doing, Joe, Man,
de Bo, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Man. You need every Tuddy. I knew to look at
my phone and expect to call. I was look I
like I said, Debo, I wanted to good.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Ignore mean you were sending me. You were sending me
to you. Was you was disrespectful? You were real dis
you send me to to you, sending me to the
voicemail and everything else.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
After the first year, I got the first point after
the first three tuddies, you was calling me just trying
to just rub it in like I was all brownie, brownie, brownie.
I had love for both teams. I gotta I gotta Deo.
I gotta watch you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I gotta watch you, Bro, I gotta watch you. You
what you gotta watch me folk, Joe. I'm just trying
to figure out where you you know, you know I'm
I am. I played for the Stellers.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So this is what this is what it comes down
to for realbo I understand now as a fan, as
a fan watching the games, I understand how the Stealers
fans feel, and I understand how the Browns fans feel.
It's a way more chill feeling when you're a Stillers
fan because you're expecting, you know what's gonna happen. It's
real smooth Browns fans. That's just it was bad. It
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was just bad bass. So we're gonna get into it.
But my mind, I just know my Stellers vibe. I'm
all the way that ship looked amazing, my Browns vibe.
They got things to There's things to be talked.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
About on that side. Okay, so it's things to be talking.
So you're good over here, and these things to be
talked about over here is what you're saying. Okay, so
now you're listening. Okay, So what I what I want
to do is gone ahead, I guess, you know, and
and getting to the game. Baby, you know that's of
course the Stillers beat the Browns. What was that twenty
(02:03):
three to nine?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah? Yes, yes, brown still can't score over seventeen?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
This boy dude? Every time we play the Browns, I
gotta remove everything that's orange out of here. This dude
pulls down his pants and starts pissing on stuff. Man, Joe,
give me give me a minute. Bro so much a dog?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh my god, don't hey what you're doing a lot
of podcasts.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Get down with your ass. You don't pissed on my
shelf too.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Boy and Deebo looking at me, and they mad at
me about not being you gotta talk about ripping.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And you're the one that slammed that Browns fan and
I didn't even know you still had a Cincinnati Bengals helmet.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm gonna plus on that next. Get your ass out
of my boom gone gone, get out.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Of here, de Bo, get your dog, my dog.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Hem. You gotta get control of your household, my brother,
Hold up.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Bad Joe. That boy, that boy was up over there
pissing on orange and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
See anyway here, Let me let me get back to
where I was at.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Like I said, it stillers whooped on the Browns twenty
three to nine, and you know what, you know what,
you know what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The first play was like foreshadowmen. You know I saw
it first play.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We gonna head. We ain't hit that tight end and
I don't know how many games, and we hit him
for thirty six, bab we hit him for thirty six.
On the first play. They didn't even know what to do.
The boys seven feet tass so I don't know how
they misscovering it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It was, it was, there was a great play.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
They motioned him inside, he inserted, you know what I'm saying,
and then they had a new cornerback that we got
that back. Then he had a he had a long,
long day, but he made some great plays out there.
Long day, got a little confused in coverage and your
man Washington ram straight down on the seventh round wide open,
so they just busted off first like miss miscoverage Browns
(04:00):
let us supposed to play still has made it look easy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh yeah, we started out a little bit, so we
only we only got three got three. Yeah, and then
we you know, Cleveland come back, and you know, we
think we're off of there on that third down there completion,
but they caught up. They called TJ and the neutral zone,
so that made it thirty five. Gave him the opportunity.
I think the next one was a twelve yard completion
to continue to drive, you know, but you know we
(04:28):
broth ben ben Ben but but but don't necessarily break
plus Cleveland they you know, they returned the favor with
the unnecessary roughness. Do want to get tough with a
little pesy. So that had them stall it out. They
had to punt the rock. And you know who we are, man,
We the Pittsburgh Stillers. You know us. No, I'm not
(04:48):
putting you in this, you understand, yep.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just it was a little defenses brough the beginning
man the Browns at the end of the day was Benmber,
don't break still is Bember don't break defenses did good
the first two drives they made, so they had to
punt flags all over the place. Then we had to Yeah,
like you said, we had the pump return. It still
has had a great pump return. Blind side block they
I think that he did a pretty good block. I
(05:11):
don't think Pepper's tried to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think tried to side block. He was on his side, dude,
and he's turned. That's what I'm saying. He did.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
He did the way that they teach him, like you
put your back on him, you throw your hands up.
So I think that was a bad call. You know,
a rod had dk metcalf for a couple of players,
but they had to punt. Brown's defense was playing good
at the very beginning, at the beginning of the game too.
But you can only do but so much.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, I mean, it's okay, Joe, because I'm hearing
a lot more frustration than i am happiness because that
that Jalen Brown sacked right there on that first down
to go ahead, put him behind the chains, having for
some kick that good punt, and you know what happened
right then the second quarter we started where he leven't
played drive, but we ended up settling for a field goal. Again.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's what that's what you keep saying. I'm like, let
him play drive. Was looking good in the red zone
if you was getting to the getting to the red zone,
moving the ball, but it was tough to get it
in there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Hey, the pressure was coming, Hey, third down right immediately
the next possession we get that third down sack. Man,
get up out of there. What happened? We go ahead,
drive down the field again. Man, it's ten yards, it's
ten plays, but we end up selling for another field goal.
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That's nine.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's bank, that's bank Ro, Bankro, shout out, bank Rop
was on that mountain Boa, you know what I'm saying,
forty four fifty forty eight. So y'all got in there
doing good, but Boss was able.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
To get good. I'm glad you said, y'all. And then
you know, y'all, you're making me feel something way, you know, y'all.
Right before halftime, y'all, y'all got y'all got lucky sixth
grade seventy two yards and like you say, our defense,
my defense still a defense, little bend, don't break halftime.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Three to nine looks like a close game, it really,
and as close as it is. Hey, but I'm gonna
tell you this debo going into halftime though, don't lie.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The our Steelers were smacking the Browns coming across the
middle like there was some alligated arms that started coming
to a the tight end was one of them at
the and he hit my man Joku in his heart
from and I didn't know if he was gonna get up,
lost his win and everything.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He came back in the game.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But that Jerry Judy, some of them like he was
coming across those middle. He was throwing those passes Dylan
and you see them was like looking at the safety
instead of looking at the rock a couple of times.
So I mean, I think the Steller's banging hitting out
there was making some of them arms get a little short,
getting a little tight looking for the rock.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh yeah, for sure. But y'all helped us out on
that punt when we came back into second half. Dude, yes, yes, kicker.
That right there was a huge turning point. Buddy allowed
us to go down there score a touchdown. Connor Hayward
twelve yard touchdown.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Brother man, Brother, That right there, Debo was actually beautiful.
And that was the part when I was looking at
the game like end of the day. Defense playing good.
Both defenses are playing well. You know what I'm saying,
Like Ben, but don't break. But that's the point when
Aaron Rodgers was scrambling making plays like I don't give
a damn. I'd rather the ball be in his hands
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than Dylan Gabriel because it's just like their offense is
going He's going to make something happen, he's not going
to mess it up, but he's also going to give
us a reason to win. Like there is a difference
between not messing it up. Zero and you see, right,
Dylan Gabriel, zero touchdowns, zero picks. That's not losing, but
that's not winning, you know what I'm saying. Like Aaron
Rodgers with the balls in his hands, you just feel
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like he's scrambling, directing traffic. Told him like, oh no, no, no,
go back this way. Heyward spinning that joint beautifully.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Touchdown.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So that part right there looked sick. And that's when
I was looking at the Steelers like this. You know what, guys,
obviously they have the defense they have. Now that the
running back you got game, well, he was toting it
and Warren was toting the ball, so he had a
run game. He had the receiver DK Metcalf going crazy,
Big Washington getting him involved. It just looked like an
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overall team. It was a team effort, even though it
didn't make it, and they made it to the resist
a lot in the first half, was able to get
field goals, weren't able to score, but just consistency.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Still like that touchdown, they ended up going down and
scoring the field goal made it six sixteen. But again,
you know, we're the Pittsburgh Steelers. We ain't we ain't
we ain't gonna do nothing halfway and that that man,
that man shrowed off again.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
K Medcalf twenty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Hey, you know what's so crazy, though, is this cigar
it's called the brand is my father, and that's what
we are for the Browns and and and the actual
name of this one is the Judge. And we judged
y'all wanting and needing and we whipped that ass. But anyway,
let me get back to that good twenty five yard
DK touchdown that put us up twenty three the six
(10:10):
man and again man, the defense allows for sixteen eighteen
play drive, two penalties and help them, you know, extend
the drive on positions points third down where we thought
we were going to be able to get off the field.
But hey man, but don't break nine to twenty three.
(10:31):
I could take that. No, not really, though. They come
back out and we do it three and out, bro,
three and out.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to say. The Browns
defense can only do. But so much like we're not
saying that the Steelers offense play amazing, did the best.
They could have definitely did better, But I mean, it's
just it's a flow of a game. You're not going
to be able to go blow the Browns defense out.
That's a good ass defense out there. And when they
keep giving opportunities back to their offensive side of the
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ball and you get nothing, you getting Aythane. How the
hell you're gonna win like that. So that's why I'm
looking at it like it was a team effort. When
you know when the still is new, when they get
a stop, it's offense, defense, special teams working together. You
get a stop, you're putting the ball in Aaron Rodgers
hands and you believe he's gonna be able to get
a touchdown, he's gonna be able to get points, he's
gonna be able to get first downs, move the ball
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down the field, and then the end of the day,
if you don't bank, Robard's going to knock down the
field goal. So with team ball and things are just
going to be like everybody's working together on the Brown side,
it just looks like the defense is out there fighting
for your life. And if you keep giving somebody love
and hooking them up and they ain't giving you nothing,
that's demoralizing. You can't score at all, Like no touchdowns,
(11:42):
you know what I'm saying, so, oh yeah, it's just
it's just a bad feeling. It's a bad feelings a
brown stee I mean you had an opportunity there, well,
not really, but drop passes twelve yes, yes, a lot
of drop passes.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And then we had a chance to really just shut
it out in the field at aquature helped out the Browns. Man,
my dude lose his footing to whole cleet off the ground. Man,
ain't no telling them what could have? What's so crazy?
That ain't the worst that feels been two thousand and seven, Dude,
that field was so bad the ball got stuck in
(12:16):
it straight up a punt bro I swear, straight up
and up like it was crazy plug like a golf shot. Yeah,
for sure. And basically after that the nine to twenty
three we hold strong. It is their game basically over with.
But Pittsburgh still is offense. Yes, listen, hey, they did
(12:41):
a better job of running blocking mm hm. They protect
the quarterback zero sets. Miles Garrett only had two tackles,
no pressures, no hits on the quarterback, Like, what are
you talking about? And that is from our tackle that
has been having a down season. He has gave up
the most sacks out of any tackle in the league,
but he didn't get none. To yo, guy, you know
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why because we fly high when the orange in the sky,
I understand it. We got one hundred yards combined rushing.
I'm gonna take it. It ain't from one person, but
I'm gonna take it. And then you know what we did.
We got the tight ends involved Washington's.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Three for sixty two. He actually had five targets.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, Smith was three for eighteen, Connor had a touchdown
for twelve, fire Move had one for eleven. Washington was
the second leading receiver on the team. That's why he
was wide open. They're like, yo, he coming out the block.
Now he ain't just coming out the block. We're gonna
show you that he can do more than what y'all
think he can do. And now you gotta worry about
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them tight ends. Now you're done. Gave Aaron wore targets.
Aaron was greatly effective. You're talking twenty one to thirty two,
thirty five two touchdowns. Here we go, stealers, here we go.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hey, that defense, now the exacts exacts. Hey, listen, we
played the run better.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I know they only rushed seventeen time.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But we played it better.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We ain't get why in the world is what I'm
trying to figure out is why they have him pass
the ball like like like fifty two times.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Why they had that?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What passed ball? You think a rookie go coming. I
understand he got a lot of games under his belt
and all the other stuff. It's a different thing, you
know what I'm saying. When you get to leave, you
gonna have him come in here and think he go
pass on the Pittsburgh still it's fifty two times, and
you gonna win that game. Not to mention that our
defense dropped three folk picks.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That they had in their hands that they should have
came up with. You took the words out of my
You took the word out my mouth with that one.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But hey, all in all, we the Pittsburgh stillers. It's
getting never better every week. And that's all we need
to do is keep inclining so that when we get
to that point when this elimination time, were shooting off
like a rocket.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
No, that is correct, you bo the stiller, Aaron Rodgers
look better. Everything you said is correct. Getting the tight
ends involved, even if they run fo one hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's just giving the ball up, making sure you keep
that thing going, no matter if you're giving it to
jailing or game well, just making sure you got a
run game that's effective and just keep handling the ball off.
So they got to make sure that they watch for that.
So I'm not mad at the Stellers at all. They did.
They did great, and it's looking like they're doing better
and better. Like I said too, how you think Dylan
(15:36):
Gable Do you expect him to come into the you
haven't won it twenty two times there and thuil the
ball fifty two times and win. That's not gonna work.
And then we dropped with like you said too, zero touchdowns,
zero picks, but it hit about three stillers upside the head.
My man junior, Joey put the junior had one smooth,
we had one. The defensive end my man fifty one,
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he had one. It's just a lot of that's that
could have easily been picked. We're not junkins. Ran the
ball twelve times for thirty six yards, like we gotta
get him more opportunities. There's no way that he's going
to walk into that game and be able to go
against the Steelers, and especially when behind the sticks, when
we're letting them dudes blitz, knowing the lines, looking crazy,
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knowing our tackles are having a tough time blocking Swat, blocking,
hot Smith, blocking Cam blocking, any of them dudes.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So that was not it was it was a coaching error.
You can't come in there with a game plan think
you're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
With the Why are you surprised that it's a coaching there,
I'm not supposed. You didn't even know who the hell
is back up with.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Coach coch Debo, debo, I'm not surprised. I'm just stating
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I understand what you're saying. I'm puffing on a cigar.
They ain't even lit. But that's how good I feel, Joe,
That's how good I feel. I could feel what it
feel like if because I just feel so good today.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I got two out. So now when we are put
on my Steelers hat, that was that's the ball that
were looking for. Like Jalen Ramsey out there making sacks.
Everybody communicated that Joe looks kept him out of the
end zone. Obviously, it wasn't maybe too hard because the
Browns offense wasn't really too effective. Dylan Gabriel did do
a pretty good job, but he could have thrown three picks.
(17:18):
Some of his passes was still errant. And I think
he's going to be He's not a bad he's he's
going to be solid.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I don't think the Browns are helping him in any
way with his with his progression of becoming a better
quarterback right now. And that's not to say I want
if they put your door on two gas whatever it is, no, no, no,
for sure, for sure, But I'm saying fifty two times
versus Steelers, and in the first joint in London, like
handing the ball, that was a better process than this.
If they would have came in giving the ball off
the jug, he would have had at least twenty carries.
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Then that's like, okay, bet, you're not trying to set
my man back, but you made him throw fifty two times,
get sacked six times, he got hit up side the
head seventeen times.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like that's so what it came down to, man, is
this our defense played better then y'all defense because we
played against the Browns offense, which is I mean, it's
a professional football team, but it is the Browns offense.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It's the same team who hasn't.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Scored more than seventeen points in the last eleven games straight.
So I mean it's to be expected. And I don't
see why they would have been able to score seventeen
points on us. You know, that's just it's just a
hard nature of Browns playing the Stellers. I mean, de bo.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I mean, look, I'm not here to argue with you.
I'm not here today. I'm not here to argue. I'm
here to argue. I'm here to state how I feel
about the brown situation, and then I'm here to stay
how I feel about the Stellers. Stillers are looking good,
and I would know why you expect for the Browns
to play the still As hard, because that's a division
game and every time they come over there, anything can happen.
(18:54):
But once the game gets to going and people get
to making the players and you see what's going on
in the football field, I was not expecting for the
Stillers to get that game away. They just looked like
they were getting warming up, getting they wheel right, and
then next thing you know, a rod started doing a
rod stuff, and that's just not what we had on
the offen the side of the.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Ball for the Browns. So s yep.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Still is a late in the division, and it don't
look like it's gonna be changing anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No question. It's speaking of the division. The Ravens got
popped too. But I will say this, watching the game, brother,
looking at it, going back and forth in between, I'm
looking the first possession, dude, and Baltimore comes out there
and I'm like, oh, they're getting back to Baltimore football.
(19:42):
Derrick Henry right, Deck.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Henry Let, Derek Henry right.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Derek Henry Let, Derek Henry right, Derek Henry Lett. They
get a holding penalty that stalls them out. They end
up settling for three. Okay, okay, it's looking alright, it's
looking all right. La comes out out, they move it
a little, but they missed the field goal. Right cool.
(20:06):
I'm like, all right, the Ravens getting the ball back.
You know, I don't want him to be too sorry,
you know, because we still got to at least have
a little competition, something good for the fans to see.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Don't nobody want.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
To go to the game's twenty one nothing before the
first quarter over and the Ravens come out there and
your boy rushed.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
There was that interception, and.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It kind of felt like after that, La was like, Yo,
y'all ain't gonna one up us on this. Go ahead,
get the sack, fumble, Baltimore, recover the ball, give it
back to him. Hey, hey, they they said the Ravens
definitely played better. Oh yeah, they played better. They played better.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
They played better than I thought Matthew Stafford was gonna
pick them apart. But like like you said, when they
had that strip sack when they were trying to get
down to the score, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Like, okay, look better, better Ravens defense.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So I had to make sure we get him a
little bit of love because they've been looking the worst
in the entire league by far. But they stepped up
a little bit versus the Rams.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, they ended up going forward though that next pos session.
I believe it was fourth fourth thing. I want to
say it might have been one given. No, Yeah, they
went forward on fourth down and they didn't make it,
but I think at that point in time it might
have gave him a shorter feel. They ended up tying
(21:28):
it up three to three and the Ravens get the
ball back and they just totally forget about Dack Henry.
I don't know what happened the day. They just forgot
about what they did the first couple of possessions and
how it helped them out. And immediately the Rams helped
them out too. They just went on here, did a
quick three and out. So Ravens get the rock back.
(21:51):
They're like, oh, yeah, I done forgot we got dead Henry.
So they go ahead start handing that man in the
rock again. But again dude, on fourth and one, they
get zero points at the one yard line.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
This is what they did. They did. They did the
toush push on the third down, and then your man
Derek Camby tried to run it on the fourth down
and lost.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The y'all yode wow. So that right there could have
got you, you know, could have got you three points
if you went on here.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And they went for.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It because immediately beginning the third quarter the Rams drive
on down there, nine plays seventy six yards get the tuddy.
Also they got helped because Pooka ended up getting hurt.
Like he didn't. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't have to
deal with him nothing that whole game. And then the dude,
(22:46):
your boy rush, you come out, fumble the ball, get
it right back to the Rams on the twenty one
and they score another Tuddy.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I guess they got tired and set him down.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Buddy.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That was that. That was all. I guess they take no.
For sure, they ain't do too much man on the
offensive side. And but like you said, I'm blaming that
when you know you don't have Lamar Jackson, keep paying
the ball off that Derek cam until just keep giving them,
just keep giving it to him. He was eating, like
you gotta show me something different.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
For sure, they don't it. You ain't got to really
show him nothing differently. I think I think they ended
up getting a new office coordinator this year. So the
guy that was there yeat last year, did what he
was doing. I think he got the new guy there
finally was like, yo, I guess we gotta we gotta
run the rock if we're going to have a chance.
You know, even then it was still seventeen, you know,
seventeen to three that had a they had an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think it was a fourth down.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They went for it, ended up getting sacked and you know,
from there, Ravens start driving the ball. Believe they turned
over on downs and you know it ain't no more
than just under four minutes left. You know, it's basically
over with after that. But the big thing for the
Ravens is, I think for the offense that first possession,
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they started getting back to Baltimore football. You know, running, running,
Derrick Henry, you know the way he should using Derick Henry,
the way he should be, you know the way he
should be running or used, I should say. And then
you know, the the defense they played better, but you
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needed need a little bit more in situational things, I guess,
to get get done with you what you're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I don't think they.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Took took as much planning as they needed to to
try and try and try and finish it out blood
and they also they hurt too, I can give them that,
but they were still playing bad before. No for sure,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
If your offense isn't doing too well. But if you
offense ain't doing good, your defense ain't doing good. I
mean it's it's not it's not a good it's not
a good winning recipe to win games, and your defense
is playing really really bad. You lose your best offensive threat,
Lamar Jackson. Right now, they just trying to stay afloat
and right they're hoping to get him back after the bye.
So I mean, that's the only that's the only chance
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they got when you look at it, you know, over
the last what three weeks, they've been outscored ninety eight
to thirty three.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like, you can't. You can't win like that, No debo,
you can't. It's what if they won and five. It's
only been one team since the since you know, they
started the new format of fourteen playoff teams that made
the playoffs. That was one to five and that was Washington.
In twenty twenty, they started winning five and made the playoffs.
Records ain't making the playoffs, you know, no, sir.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And it's not like like you said, the defense, they
hopefully they start getting some players back. Lamar Jackson has
to come back then, Lamar Jackson. Their offense was they
weren't like blowing people out when he was there, and
the defense wasn't playing good. So hopefully if the defense
can start playing better and he comes back with a
flow on how much.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Better you want the defense to play though they already
number one. Joe defense for the Ravens. Oh, I'm tripping.
I'm thinking I'm thinking of Baltimore. Sorry, I mean I'm
thinking of Cleveland. Sorry, Yeah, you know I'm talking. I'm
talking about the Ravens. Okay, yeah, they they they're like
the opposite. They're probably thirty They got thirty two.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
They gotta do they they can. They have a way
to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
They got it. They have a lot of room of improvement.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
If they can get better and start tightening it up
like they did in this game, and Lamar comes back
and performs at a high level, they have to win
out though, like there's not when he gets back there.
One to five is they have to go basically then
and undefeated, because you.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Think he still comes back if the hamstring is a.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Little if he oh, I think if they keep losing
and they lose another they keep if it's he his hamstring,
it needs to be one hundred percent anyway, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And if that takes another.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Two weeks, another three weeks and then they're one and eight,
then I mean, what kind of what.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Is the point? You know what I'm saying, you kind.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Of want him to get back, and if they get
mathematically down they're eliminated. Then you don't want to wrist
lamar Jackson's long term future for him to just come
back and for what.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you there, like you don't
want to have him come back you are dead last
right now and have him going there on a you know,
eighty percent hamstring and he go to hit another gear
and forbid, you know, God forbid tear the thing off
the bone or something like That's that's you know, that's
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something that's gonna lead into the next year.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
The part is not Russia. Don't rush, let him get
all the rest, let him recover, I think.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
One hundred percent for show. Yeah, if they don't, if
they don't let him do that, it's going to it's
not going to be uh. I don't think it'll be
pretty because he he's too he's too loose and powerful.
He's gonna he's not going to think about it. He's
going to go to dig, to take off to get
past somebody. And you know that's gonna be it. You
can't go out there and play it, you know, eighty
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percent the way he you know, the way he plays
the game. Yep, he gotta be full till no question.
So during the coach pregame warm up, this was crazy.
The cornerback war, he collided with the tight end ogletree
and suffered a concussion. This boy went into pre game
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concussion protocol out for the actual game, and then Anthony
Richardson he fractured his orbital bone with UH with the
band band. Dude, like, how do you do that? Brother?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You debo you you know how tight them bands are.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He probably was doing like a little a.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Mean handamn strings swing up thing and it's about have
slipped off his foot. Fock.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
He didn't play it out. He didn't play. I didn't play.
He couldn't play. No, he could have.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I got a story for you. I did that same thing, bro.
I blew my orbital in UH in Houston, and my
helmet came and shot down into my eye. And at
the time, bruh, I ain't lie God. So I'm like,
you know how you blink your eyes to try and
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get you know, trying to get him back straight. So
I'm sitting there and my eye. What I didn't know
at the time is I blew my ordible. So my
eye was no longer sitting on that potato chip bone,
so it dropped down. So as I'm looking at the
stadium at Houston, I'm seeing four decks. I'm seeing, you
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know how they got the scoreboard across the bild. I'm
seeing two of those and then two of those up there.
But if I close it was my right eye. They
came to one. So I'm like, they like, you got
to I'm like, I ain't got no concussion, dude. I'm like,
I'm just seeing like two of everything. Dude, Like, I'm like,
I'm seeing two of everything. What you mean. I'm like,
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I'm telling you, I'm seeing two of everything. Like if
I close this eye, I could do it. So I
go back in. They take me into the They take
me into the locker room and hear the crowd, something's
happening whatever. And by that time, it done got to
where it's not separated like this. Yeah, they're close like this,
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and I'm like, all right, I'm going back out. So
I go back out and I'm on the side, and
you know, I asked my I asked my boys. I'm like, yo,
y'all good, y'all need me to come. I'm like, if
y'all need me, I could come back, bro, I'll come back.
And he's like, man, hey, we go be all right? Bro.
Like like, I'm like, I can come back if you
need me. Like, what was your eye? What was your
(30:59):
looking like? Debo? Was you would you look it? Just
it don't even look like nothing. Bro, Okay, it don't
even look like nothing because it's inside your eye. So
they actually go in your eye to do the surgery
into your eye socket rather to do the surgery. So
I'm like, yo, I could come back if y'all need
me to. But if y'all go be all right, I
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ain't gonna come back, like help go well, we ain't
gonna be all right. I'm like, all right, then I'm
coming back. So what I did is I finished that
game with a fracture orble, so when I would go
to hit somebody, I would just close my right eye
so it would be one person and then i'd opened
it open it back up. So I was crazy. So
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I finished that game. I ended up getting the surgery
later early that next week, and uh, that's when I
started wearing a dark dark dark visor because I got
a scratched on my on my retino or something and
it was giving me light sensitivity. So I started wearing
wearing the dark visor. But dude, I finished that game
(32:01):
and I ended up missing, I believe the next two
weeks after I got it. I got it done, but
I played a whole. I actually got the bone, Bro.
I have the bone, the little potato chip bone. I
got it upstairs in refrigerator. I'll make them. I tell them, listen,
anything you take out of me, I'm gonna need to
take with me because I gotta put that back. Droughe
I got pieces of bone from like my back when
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they did my micro the second the second time. I
had two of them in nine days. TiVo, You're wild.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Bro, and you get Debo got
bones in defrigerator. Bro, Listen, it's going I was born
with it. It's going back with me back in no question.
(32:43):
Is you all good now though? Or you yeah, it's
good now? It's good now, baby. That was in two thousand.
That was in two thousand and nine. That was like
two games eleven or something like that. It was twenty eleven.
That was like two games. But that's what I'm saying.
So how you gonna put that one back in ay,
here this, I'm just gonna put it in my casket.
(33:03):
Oh that's it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So here, Hey, here's here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So this is this is gonna sound crazy. So when
I first started coming back, so they keep you in
the hospital for a day, and they got to seal
your eyes shut. So they come in the next day
they cut the scissor to cut the two sutures that
that steals your eye and you're able to open it
right the first Oh man, it had to be like
(33:32):
two months, maybe a little more. When I would blow
my nose, air would come out my eyes. Ah, Debo swear,
brouh God, I swear.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It was crazy. Yeah, man, that's crazy. I'm queasy. I'm
but anything like that. I'm like, my man, debo eye,
you talking about bow on your nose? You got air
coming out of here.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's crazy. I don't know if it's normal now, but hey, anthemy,
if that happens, it's normally happened to me. So just
letting you know that first few months you get back,
you go to blow your nose.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I blow my nose real hard though, like I don't
do the quiet. Yeah, no, you gotta go, you gotta
you gotta get it out.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I gotta get that up out of there, so you
know what I'm saying. But yeah, bro, it would it would,
it would blow. It would blow on my eye. And
you know how like in the morning you wake up,
you got some sleep in your eye and you gotta
blow your nose. I would blow my nose, dude, it
would sleep till d bo.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's crazy. Look, bruh, bruh, that's a screen. I'm glad
you're good now.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Ship.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It took like two weeks for you to surgery.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It took two weeks before I was back. They wouldn't
let me. I guess it was something about force of
something and they didn't. They didn't want me. I was
trying to go back. I was trying to go back
that way. I'm like, yo, it's fixed. I can see now.
Everything is won. They're like, no, you gotta let it
heal for a little bit there for sure. Yeah you
wildy bo. Yeah man. So the Chargers beat the Dolphins
(35:10):
and uh your boy tour uh he He had a
little something to say after the game. Yeah, man, just
this was his response. Man, let's show it.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I think it starts with the leadership and in helping
articulate that for the guys, and then what we're expecting
out of the guys, right, we're expecting this, Are.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
We getting that?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Are we not getting that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We have guys showing up to only player only meetings late,
guys not showing up to player only meetings, Like, there's
a lot that goes into that. Do we have to
make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory?
So so it's it's a lot of uh, it's a
lot of things of that nature that we got to
get cleaned up. And it starts with the little things
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like that.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed late.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, hey man, look here, he shouldn't even be answering
any questions about that. But other than it just being
about the game, I understand he might be a little
upset because the defense couldn't hold him for forty six
seconds to make sure they didn't get a field goal.
(36:30):
I can see that. I can understand that. But your job,
if we want to go into it technically like all
the way through, is to score a touchdown every possession.
Just as when I was with the Steelers, my first
you know, my first stint of starting, dude, our job
is to stop them on every job. If we go
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out there as a defense and we do our job
one hundred percent and we never let him score, then
we could point a finger. If you don't go out
there and do your job one hundred percent, you can't
point no fingers mad about some other stuff. You as
an offense, to do your job one hundred percent, you
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got to go out there and score every play. I
know it's unrealistic, but that stops any and everyone from
pointing fingers. That's why we as a defense was like, yo,
we was number five. We're like, y'all, we're trash. We're
horrible right now.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Because if they don't score, we can't lose.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
And on top of that, we can actually help us
win because we can get turnovers and score touchdowns. We
can actually score. What you should have been talking about
to it was the second play of the game. You
threw a pick, You gave them a short field. They
scored a field goal on that, and then you come
in the next possession and you go three and out,
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and then the defense goes and gets you the football
short field score seven. The first possession of the third quarter,
you throw another pick, again, another short field, another short
field and they score a touchdown, you're responsible for ten points.
You're lost by two. Take accountability. What are you even
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talking about that for right now? And to be honest,
we knew this was over with week one. Y'all having
a player's only meeting. The head coach needs to be
gone because now the head coach would have been going in.
But now you're telling me that the players in the
locker room don't even have a player they respect enough
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to even go to what y'all decided to do as
a player, destroy the whole team, the head coach and
start over. What are you debo? I think you making
perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I say this for one thing, like you said tour,
you have to be performing at such a hot You're
the quarterback of the team. You come out there and
throw three fucking picks, and you're talking about people not
coming to a player's only meeting. Nobody's respecting you as
a leader. For one thing, you're coming out there and
it's a player's only meeting. This is getting out to
the media because of you.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You're making things.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
About people not coming to a players only meeting. And
now if it's a player's only meeting that they're not attending.
It's because they don't respect you, or they're respect you
of a throw in the meeting. These dudes are grown
ass men. If you didn't get this meeting time that
we need to do all way in this facility from
fucking eight to four, think I'm out of here because
all the shit.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
You talking about is not a crazy team. He said
it was online. They ain't even doing this. They're not
even zooming to your shit. Hey, it's over with whoever
the owner, who's owner of the Miami Dolphins. Listen, get
rid of your head. Coach. I don't even know what
he'd be talking about half the time when he having
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an interview. I don't know what he doing that bore
on uppers and downers.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
What's going on. They the team, the players that's supposed
to be your captains, they don't even respect them. Take
them seeds off their chest. Because if that's the people
that making these meeting and ain't nobody showing up, the
respect is lost and gone there, Like you got to
start all the way over man, m.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, I mean for two to be calling people out
like that, it's kind of crazy because obviously you're letting
the media that they don't need to be knowing about
these people not showing up to your players over the meetings.
You need to be go talking to these dudes directly
and getting respect from a man that's on your team
not showing up to your meeting. You think telling the
media that he's not showing up to your meeting is
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going to make him want to come, or like you're
trying to embarrass somebody from your team and like, no,
these dudes are invested. No, you grown ass man, it's
another man you're talking about having. So now what's happening?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Now, what's happening? Hey, who ain't going to the meeting?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Who ain't going to the meeting? Now that you go
to the meeting?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Not a reporter is that? And did you go to
the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Did you
go to the meeting?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Oh? They players only meetings is the first thing. And
then people not showing up to your plans only meeting,
car is only meeting. You just lost one and a
half engines. Okay, you're going down. You only got two
and you lost half of the one you had. You're
going down.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Showing up, man, you lost both engines and one of
the wings just fell off that some bitch over.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
It's over with. It's over with. And then like you said, too,
I make the coach. He was a quarterback. He was
the ride receiver coach for the Browns when I was there.
Probably was he like that when you were there was Yeah,
just just just as just like that, the same exact.
He hasn't changed one bit. And that's not in the
bad way. He's a smart mind. But leader of leader
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of other men. You know what I'm saying. Asking him
a question, he gave you something that you like this, okay,
that makes sense. Like he's a little you know, just
slowey like you said, you say, you said, you.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Say, you you say, I think, dude, I could have
did better than that.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
And I'm horrible at public speaking, like I'm trash.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
No, no for sure. Uh uh uh I don't even so, yeah,
you ain't saying nothing. Oh you said was h yeah,
so he said, uh you know we are and uh yeah,
and you know he understand uh huh, you said a
whole lot of when when when I.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Fired, uh yeah, uh fire?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Uh you know he said, yeah fired, man, it was
it's going over there in mind they gotta do better.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Man, that's it's not looking good.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You can't listen, man. Yeah, And like you said, you're
you're you're putting it out there now and you're putting
it out there to hope to shame the dudes and
to come and.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Like that's even worse. That's hard. They don't respect you.
You trying to literally, I said, you going to the
media about them not coming to your pride.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Now they looking at you like, damn fed you a
snitch whole time. I guess they already knew you was
the police. Now they for show, not for show. The bro,
you're gonna do eighty eighty five percent of your time
(43:34):
for sure? What did he look?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Dad said something about you see Dad's tweeted about it.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
They say, I want to know what part of this
is going to take accountability? For two or through three
picks today? Two is the third in the NFL with
the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback. If you haven't
said this privately first, then then in the media, I
don't respect it. And since we are on the topic
of respect, I guarantee a lot of the players don't
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respect to her. Two points the finger and literally has
four pointing back at him.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
If you want to win, put e worse in. Who
is worse man?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
It must be the backup quarterback. Mhmm, that's crazy. I
ain't even heard him and he would he read he
ready to put it in.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
But that's that's exactly what we were saying, though. I
mean that ain't that ain't no news flash, that's that.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It is what it is, like, we're saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Bro. We've been in the locker rooms before.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
We know when people are in their thing, and like
at the end of the day, like there was there
was player only meetings that we did once a week
for the stellers, like the dbs would do everybody all
the DB's in there and we will host it ourselves
and would have food. You know what I'm saying, Like
somebody had to get food from a good ass spot
and we were white.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
But you're not. You're you're not having a meeting to
try and figure out why the hell is going to
You're having an extra meeting to play and get ready
for the opponent that you're playing against, and extra stuff to.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Eat and and and you know, and and hang out
together to quote that, But what I'm but what I'm
saying is do at the same time with that debo
at the end of the day, people don't got to
go to those do you know what I'm saying, Like
that is extra, that is after, but there's a respect.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That when I came there, that was there.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
It's mandatory, Like it's not, but it's mandatory because whatever
else you're gonna do, like were gonna come, were gonna
have this meeting, all the boys gonna link up, and
we look forward to it because I alight, bet like
when my boys back the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Like they don't have to be that way.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
But knowing like people respect their leadership. Dudes, everybody understands,
like Nigga, if Joe, if Joe in there, I'm in there,
you know what I'm saying. If I'm like, why but
I being there, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like a it's an unspoken because you could tell the
dudes of respect the people. If you say something, then
they're gonna just come because you're not just saying stuff
out you ask something you not want to even it's
just because it is what it is. Boom, We're just gonna.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Come, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
I don't know. We got to make a mandatory what
what what.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
That's that's just like I'm not making the manage. But
we if we say it's like they it's a respecting
if things when you you just stop talking all the time.
So when you somebody were to say something, then that
means he okay, boom, he means he can talk.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Toy Palamalu never went out, never party, never did anything
but come rookie dinner. Troy is going out.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Why because that's.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
What it is. It's camaraderie. It's an event that happens
every year.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
He's not like he drank.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Or anything, but he was there.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
He was there, was there. Mm hm. That's the volumes
Broy's volumes for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yes you ain't you ain't. Yeah, but mandatory on something.
Stop stop playing man, Listen. Denver went on ahead and
beat the Jets. It was thirteen to eleven, but like
it really wasn't like that club. It was close, but
it wasn't that close, dude. Denver's defense. They just dominated
these boys. Man, they didn't lie. These boys run the ball,
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they ain't on the pass the ball. They shut down everything.
Man running back only No, he had twenty two carries, bro,
and only fifty nine yards. Like fields, this boy sacked
nine times. You know what happened? Well, he said, listen,
for every completion I get, I'm gonna let y'all get
a sack. So he had nine completions and they got
nine sacks on that had that that that's the only
(47:16):
That's the only thing I could say.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I know, man, I'm just telling you, that's the only reason.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
That's the only way I could see that, you know,
it was you know, that's how they minded it out.
They they only converted I think what two maybe third
downs two? That was it? A total of eighty two
yards period, Dude? How are you negative ten passing yards?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
It that they was? They were they was. They was
hitting there was dude. They was hitting justin fields, dude,
so much. Not that I ain't even talking about the
you know, just the sacks. They hit him fifteen times too,
Like I, what in the world is popping over there?
(48:04):
This was what I woke up at nine. Like the
Denver's offense.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Really, they ain't do nothing, bro.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
All they had to do was sit out there, man,
and just don't turn the ball over. And that's it. Brother.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
What I'm trying to say is I watched that game
from beginning to end because it was the London game.
It was nine thirty in the morning, and I was geeked.
I'm like, okay, bat, we got good football. I'm gonna
watch this entire game and see what's going on with
the Jets because Aaron Glenn was my dB coach.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I love I like Aaron Glenn a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Great.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Okay, so you're about to say something because you said
you like him a whole lot. That's be facing with negative.
You're about to come with go ahead. No.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It was the worst offense to display I've ever seen.
Like their defense was playing amazing, turning the ball over
putting him in great field position, pump returns putting them
in great field position.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
My man fields only had like.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
He has short fields the whole first half to just
try to get something going. They couldn't move the ball
at all, negative ten passing yards. The running game, it
looked like it almost looks like they weren't trying and
justin feels simple speed outs like.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Routes on air.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
When your receiver Gary was running the speed out and
he's throwing it in the dirt behind him, making them
fall back. It just looks like the simple passes he
could not make, you know what I'm saying. So I
was looking at it because I'm like, Okay, Denver isn't
doing anything. Also, like bow Nicks loved them to death,
but their defense was playing great.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
They made them pump the ball eight times.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
He had eight punts, so like they kept giving them opportunities,
turnovers on short fields, great punk returns, and it's like
justin fields, you're not doing anything, like you're harming your team.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Somebody just throw the ball up, get him out. I mean,
he can do better. He could definitely do better. But
also you got to realize, I believe they offensive coordinator.
I think this is his first time being an offensive coordinator,
so maybe he's not able to fit his offense or
play call to what it is. That strength of Justin
is also Justin.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Been in a lot of teams though, bro.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
And just stay me. The one thing that I didn't
like when we picked Justin up. I'm like, we picked
him up, Okay, cool, you ain't really have to do
nothing to get him or give up anything to get him. Yeah,
But the thing that caused me to have to worry
was when he was saying about his offensive coordinator in Chicago.
He was like, it was along the lines that they
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got me thinking too much. They just need to let
me go out there and play. And that to me said,
I can't understand this game. I can't learn it, I
can't read it. I can't get the ball where it
needs to go in time. That's what it said to me.
So that's him not being able to perform the level
he needs to and understand the game that he needs
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to understand. So I'm seeing it at a fifty on him,
maybe sixty on him, and the coordinator is not giving
plays and designing things that's going to be beneficial for
his talents.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I think Justin Feel's talents are very I think just
until His talents are his athleticism and his mobility, but
being able to if you can't read defenses fast and
you think that like sometimes offenses I'm not trying to say,
but if you say, like he's giving you too much
some that's that's what quarterbacks do. Quarterbacks have to know
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what everybody's doing and what the defenses are doing in
the checks. And it's a lot of information. That's why
that's the hardest position in the league by far, because
just the amount of information that you have to process
and then a fast level.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
So when dudes are.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Movement trying to like bluff you and you don't know
where the coverage is and then they start they can
trick you. That means that you're not that good of
a quarterback, you know what I'm saying, because you have
to be able to execute and be able to get
things on the fly and be able to know what
everybody's doing with your whole offense in the position.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
So if you're like, oh, no, it's too much for
me to I'm sorry, that's not bad your professional quarterback.
These dudes are making sixty million dollars a year so
they can process information, so they can do these things
and be able to get all these other guys in
the right spots.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
So I understand completely.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
But when I'm looking at it, I'm like, yo, if
you don't know how to read the defense and then
like throwing bad passes for quick outs that are like
rousse on air, I'm sorry, we need to find another guy.
Like a lot of this stuff like it could be
offensive coordinator too, but some of the stuff just looking
at him like, boy, you're not helping, you're hurting the squad.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Oh, no question, dude. And then you got you know,
you got Garrett Wilson. He had an exchange with Aaron
Glenn going into halftime like what what do you think?
Speaker 2 (52:39):
He said, Look, because you saw like they just they
didn't even look like they were trying.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
To get a field goal.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
They were down at the fifty yard line with thirty
seconds left and they just let the clock run out,
like they didn't even try to get another ten yards
run up, spike.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
It, get a field goal.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
He's like, oh no, like Aaron like they didn't even believe.
They thought, oh no, he might through a pick, he
might take a sack.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Something bad is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Let's just get in the halftime instead of let's go
get let's go get some points on the board, let's
try to get some more men. I'm going in the halftime.
You going a halftime looking like this, Oh, let's just
not fuck this up. And Gary Wilson is standing there like,
don't be the ball, like I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Get us activated.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Let's get let's get going and he's walking off and
sees that the coaches aren't going to call a play.
I'm pissed. I'm like, what are we really doing? Are
we not trying to score? Are we not trying to win?
Speaker 1 (53:27):
I think that you're happy with the with the process,
with the progress that you have right now at this
point in the game, That's what. And they may have
been too scared to actually go because when you're getting
pressure like that sacked left and right, you know you
you only want to play away from that sack.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Fumble to the house.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, but he came on.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
It's coming off of a completion, a rare completion. He
had one, so that everybody's running up he had nine
of them, baby, bro, he only had nine. They coming
off a very completion. Everybody looking at thirty seconds come
down and then he's They just looking at each other like, Okay,
let's just wait for this thing. Let's just go in here,
go down. You think to a row the fuck down
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now road.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
And then they still only lost like two points, dude,
Like that tell you how much of nothing Denver's offense
was doing.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
Dude, But I'm putting it to Denver's offense was doing
nothing but damn it. The defense of the Jets was balling.
They were creating turnovers and like getting off the field
on third downs. They was doing their part. So like
that's why I look at the offense like you can't
you had thirty There was like thirty three hours in
the first half and thirty forty something and the second
half of im looking, I'm like, yo, that's crazy, like
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all all over the whole whole game.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
That's that's crazy. That's bad ball. So the Chiefs beat
the Lions thirty to seventeen. But that wasn't that wasn't
a big to go to. It was after the game
when Branch refused to shake Mahome's hand and then went
up to Juju and basically shoved him, punched him in
his face and his helmet, and then the brawl started.
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Dan Campbell he did not like it. He called out
his player and you know, what is what is your
what is your take on this? You are about players,
you know doing extra curriculus after the game. Man, I'm
not about it at all.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
I don't, I don't. I'm not here for you got
three hours in that game to literally in between the whistles,
do what you gotta do. It's a physical, brutal sport
where you can really go get your revenge and in
a good way and not like trying to hurt nobody.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
But yeah, you can get physical.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
You can come and smack somebody bomb yeah, and like
you can really get your get back in between the
whistles in the football game. So I'm thinking after the game,
once it's all over, is what it is. It's a
competitive juices get up, people get feeling some type of
ways back the end of the day, we're all in
the NFL, We're all trying to provide for our families,
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do the right thing, and like just hope hopefully nobody.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
I'm trying to go out there to like injure anybody.
So my whole thing is emotions get high. But once
the game is over, the game is over. I'm trying
to get back to the crib, back to the family
and get out of there. But I just don't understand
how I mean, you could walk up on you. I
saw like no handshake and then just hop my man,
That's why that's not okay. You know what I'm saying.
(56:24):
It was he Loki had his hand out. Yeah that
you can't do that. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
It's not really anything. Is it anything that somebody can
say to you that will cause you to do that?
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Honestly, bro unless nobody, If you don't put your hands
on me, then it is what it is, you know
what I'm saying. Like I always like words that you
can talk, people get in emotions, but like once you
get physical, once you put your hands on me, then
that's a whole different game, you know what I'm saying.
So like people altercations, people talk whatever, but after the game,
I'm out of there. Like you can be grown enough
to be try enough to walk away. There's not too
(57:01):
many things that nobody could say to me to have
me up up in a roar like that.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
But I feel like.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Once you touch me, then it's then then it's and
then it's fucking and then it's all hell break loose.
It doesn't matter like you did that now what you
overstepped for sure, words can be smoke whatever, whatever, and
we go our separate ways. It is what it is.
But once you start putting your hands on once you
start touching, keep your hands to yourself, you know what
I'm saying, Like, Yeah, that's that's that's how I feel
about that.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, it really ain't nothing you can say to me,
that's go cause me to do that because I'm already
thinking about money and in today's there how dudes post
social media this and that. If you really want to
do this and we got a problem, you want to
say meet and meet, can meet? We can meet.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
It's nothing. Probably training in the same state.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Like if it's really that that real, we can meet
in the off season. This ain't no. And you could
do it behind closed.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
Doors, you know how that is. Bo If dudes really
want smoke, now you know how to find each other.
It's very easy. It could do it quietly. Yeah, matter
of fact, you get to walk into him a juju.
You know what I'm saying. You're gonna have to see
about me whatever whatever, and they can literally link and
if you really wanted to do it. But that is
just a like motion pop off. You know, it's about
to be a whole sh bang.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Money's gonna get fined.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Everybody's gonna be talking about this instead of what really
happened in the game, you know what I'm saying. So
if you really wanted it, then we could make it happen,
but like, I just don't feel that's just like that.
Come on, man, you know, and I'm not not not
knocking the branch character or anything, but that's just not
a good look. Just walked up to my man bomb
and it is what it is. Yeah, yeah, good lord.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
We almost listen tonight Chicago and at Washington. Okay, that's
tonight's game, all right. We want to thank y'all for
joining us. Time went fast that time, man. We want
to thank y'all for joining us on this episode. The
de Boy and Joe Man hit the like and subscribe button.
We will be back here on Tuesday. Joe's stuff. Hauh, Hayden,
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what you got to say?
Speaker 2 (58:55):
We will be on Tuesday to talk about the Bears game.
See what they're talking about, Bears versus Washington. Commanders's actually
up the street. I'm thinking I might go up there
and see what JD is talking about.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
I hate to let, you know, jump in there, you
know what, and we out
Welcome back to DBO and Joe. I'm your host, James Harrison,
and I'm here with my co host Joe. Huh Hayden.
Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't. You
don't want to miss nothing. How you're doing, Joe, Man,
de Bo, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Man. You need every Tuddy. I knew to look at
my phone and expect to call. I was look I
like I said, Debo, I wanted to good.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Ignore mean you were sending me. You were sending me
to you. Was you was disrespectful? You were real dis
you send me to to you, sending me to the
voicemail and everything else.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
After the first year, I got the first point after
the first three tuddies, you was calling me just trying
to just rub it in like I was all brownie, brownie, brownie.
I had love for both teams. I gotta I gotta Deo.
I gotta watch you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I gotta watch you, Bro, I gotta watch you. You
what you gotta watch me folk, Joe. I'm just trying
to figure out where you you know, you know I'm
I am. I played for the Stellers.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So this is what this is what it comes down
to for realbo I understand now as a fan, as
a fan watching the games, I understand how the Stealers
fans feel, and I understand how the Browns fans feel.
It's a way more chill feeling when you're a Stillers
fan because you're expecting, you know what's gonna happen. It's
real smooth Browns fans. That's just it was bad. It
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was just bad bass. So we're gonna get into it.
But my mind, I just know my Stellers vibe. I'm
all the way that ship looked amazing, my Browns vibe.
They got things to There's things to be talked.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
About on that side. Okay, so it's things to be talking.
So you're good over here, and these things to be
talked about over here is what you're saying. Okay, so
now you're listening. Okay, So what I what I want
to do is gone ahead, I guess, you know, and
and getting to the game. Baby, you know that's of
course the Stillers beat the Browns. What was that twenty
(02:03):
three to nine?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah? Yes, yes, brown still can't score over seventeen?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
This boy dude? Every time we play the Browns, I
gotta remove everything that's orange out of here. This dude
pulls down his pants and starts pissing on stuff. Man, Joe,
give me give me a minute. Bro so much a dog?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh my god, don't hey what you're doing a lot
of podcasts.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Get down with your ass. You don't pissed on my
shelf too.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Boy and Deebo looking at me, and they mad at
me about not being you gotta talk about ripping.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And you're the one that slammed that Browns fan and
I didn't even know you still had a Cincinnati Bengals helmet.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm gonna plus on that next. Get your ass out
of my boom gone gone, get out.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Of here, de Bo, get your dog, my dog.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Hem. You gotta get control of your household, my brother,
Hold up.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Bad Joe. That boy, that boy was up over there
pissing on orange and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
See anyway here, Let me let me get back to
where I was at.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Like I said, it stillers whooped on the Browns twenty
three to nine, and you know what, you know what,
you know what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The first play was like foreshadowmen. You know I saw
it first play.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We gonna head. We ain't hit that tight end and
I don't know how many games, and we hit him
for thirty six, bab we hit him for thirty six.
On the first play. They didn't even know what to do.
The boys seven feet tass so I don't know how
they misscovering it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It was, it was, there was a great play.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
They motioned him inside, he inserted, you know what I'm saying,
and then they had a new cornerback that we got
that back. Then he had a he had a long,
long day, but he made some great plays out there.
Long day, got a little confused in coverage and your
man Washington ram straight down on the seventh round wide open,
so they just busted off first like miss miscoverage Browns
(04:00):
let us supposed to play still has made it look easy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh yeah, we started out a little bit, so we
only we only got three got three. Yeah, and then
we you know, Cleveland come back, and you know, we
think we're off of there on that third down there completion,
but they caught up. They called TJ and the neutral zone,
so that made it thirty five. Gave him the opportunity.
I think the next one was a twelve yard completion
to continue to drive, you know, but you know we
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broth ben ben Ben but but but don't necessarily break
plus Cleveland they you know, they returned the favor with
the unnecessary roughness. Do want to get tough with a
little pesy. So that had them stall it out. They
had to punt the rock. And you know who we are, man,
We the Pittsburgh Stillers. You know us. No, I'm not
(04:48):
putting you in this, you understand, yep.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just it was a little defenses brough the beginning
man the Browns at the end of the day was Benmber,
don't break still is Bember don't break defenses did good
the first two drives they made, so they had to
punt flags all over the place. Then we had to Yeah,
like you said, we had the pump return. It still
has had a great pump return. Blind side block they
I think that he did a pretty good block. I
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don't think Pepper's tried to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think tried to side block. He was on his side, dude,
and he's turned. That's what I'm saying. He did.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
He did the way that they teach him, like you
put your back on him, you throw your hands up.
So I think that was a bad call. You know,
a rod had dk metcalf for a couple of players,
but they had to punt. Brown's defense was playing good
at the very beginning, at the beginning of the game too.
But you can only do but so much.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, I mean, it's okay, Joe, because I'm hearing
a lot more frustration than i am happiness because that
that Jalen Brown sacked right there on that first down
to go ahead, put him behind the chains, having for
some kick that good punt, and you know what happened
right then the second quarter we started where he leven't
played drive, but we ended up settling for a field goal. Again.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's what that's what you keep saying. I'm like, let
him play drive. Was looking good in the red zone
if you was getting to the getting to the red zone,
moving the ball, but it was tough to get it
in there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Hey, the pressure was coming, Hey, third down right immediately
the next possession we get that third down sack. Man,
get up out of there. What happened? We go ahead,
drive down the field again. Man, it's ten yards, it's
ten plays, but we end up selling for another field goal.
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That's nine.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's bank, that's bank Ro, Bankro, shout out, bank Rop
was on that mountain Boa, you know what I'm saying,
forty four fifty forty eight. So y'all got in there
doing good, but Boss was able.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
To get good. I'm glad you said, y'all. And then
you know, y'all, you're making me feel something way, you know, y'all.
Right before halftime, y'all, y'all got y'all got lucky sixth
grade seventy two yards and like you say, our defense,
my defense still a defense, little bend, don't break halftime.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Three to nine looks like a close game, it really,
and as close as it is. Hey, but I'm gonna
tell you this debo going into halftime though, don't lie.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The our Steelers were smacking the Browns coming across the
middle like there was some alligated arms that started coming
to a the tight end was one of them at
the and he hit my man Joku in his heart
from and I didn't know if he was gonna get up,
lost his win and everything.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He came back in the game.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But that Jerry Judy, some of them like he was
coming across those middle. He was throwing those passes Dylan
and you see them was like looking at the safety
instead of looking at the rock a couple of times.
So I mean, I think the Steller's banging hitting out
there was making some of them arms get a little short,
getting a little tight looking for the rock.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh yeah, for sure. But y'all helped us out on
that punt when we came back into second half. Dude, yes, yes, kicker.
That right there was a huge turning point. Buddy allowed
us to go down there score a touchdown. Connor Hayward
twelve yard touchdown.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Brother man, Brother, That right there, Debo was actually beautiful.
And that was the part when I was looking at
the game like end of the day. Defense playing good.
Both defenses are playing well. You know what I'm saying,
Like Ben, but don't break. But that's the point when
Aaron Rodgers was scrambling making plays like I don't give
a damn. I'd rather the ball be in his hands
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than Dylan Gabriel because it's just like their offense is
going He's going to make something happen, he's not going
to mess it up, but he's also going to give
us a reason to win. Like there is a difference
between not messing it up. Zero and you see, right,
Dylan Gabriel, zero touchdowns, zero picks. That's not losing, but
that's not winning, you know what I'm saying. Like Aaron
Rodgers with the balls in his hands, you just feel
(08:46):
like he's scrambling, directing traffic. Told him like, oh no, no, no,
go back this way. Heyward spinning that joint beautifully.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Touchdown.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So that part right there looked sick. And that's when
I was looking at the Steelers like this. You know what, guys,
obviously they have the defense they have. Now that the
running back you got game, well, he was toting it
and Warren was toting the ball, so he had a
run game. He had the receiver DK Metcalf going crazy,
Big Washington getting him involved. It just looked like an
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overall team. It was a team effort, even though it
didn't make it, and they made it to the resist
a lot in the first half, was able to get
field goals, weren't able to score, but just consistency.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Still like that touchdown, they ended up going down and
scoring the field goal made it six sixteen. But again,
you know, we're the Pittsburgh Steelers. We ain't we ain't
we ain't gonna do nothing halfway and that that man,
that man shrowed off again.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
K Medcalf twenty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Hey, you know what's so crazy, though, is this cigar
it's called the brand is my father, and that's what
we are for the Browns and and and the actual
name of this one is the Judge. And we judged
y'all wanting and needing and we whipped that ass. But anyway,
let me get back to that good twenty five yard
DK touchdown that put us up twenty three the six
(10:10):
man and again man, the defense allows for sixteen eighteen
play drive, two penalties and help them, you know, extend
the drive on positions points third down where we thought
we were going to be able to get off the field.
But hey man, but don't break nine to twenty three.
(10:31):
I could take that. No, not really, though. They come
back out and we do it three and out, bro,
three and out.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to say. The Browns
defense can only do. But so much like we're not
saying that the Steelers offense play amazing, did the best.
They could have definitely did better, But I mean, it's
just it's a flow of a game. You're not going
to be able to go blow the Browns defense out.
That's a good ass defense out there. And when they
keep giving opportunities back to their offensive side of the
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ball and you get nothing, you getting Aythane. How the
hell you're gonna win like that. So that's why I'm
looking at it like it was a team effort. When
you know when the still is new, when they get
a stop, it's offense, defense, special teams working together. You
get a stop, you're putting the ball in Aaron Rodgers
hands and you believe he's gonna be able to get
a touchdown, he's gonna be able to get points, he's
gonna be able to get first downs, move the ball
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down the field, and then the end of the day,
if you don't bank, Robard's going to knock down the
field goal. So with team ball and things are just
going to be like everybody's working together on the Brown side,
it just looks like the defense is out there fighting
for your life. And if you keep giving somebody love
and hooking them up and they ain't giving you nothing,
that's demoralizing. You can't score at all, Like no touchdowns,
(11:42):
you know what I'm saying, so, oh yeah, it's just
it's just a bad feeling. It's a bad feelings a
brown stee I mean you had an opportunity there, well,
not really, but drop passes twelve yes, yes, a lot
of drop passes.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And then we had a chance to really just shut
it out in the field at aquature helped out the Browns. Man,
my dude lose his footing to whole cleet off the ground. Man,
ain't no telling them what could have? What's so crazy?
That ain't the worst that feels been two thousand and seven, Dude,
that field was so bad the ball got stuck in
(12:16):
it straight up a punt bro I swear, straight up
and up like it was crazy plug like a golf shot. Yeah,
for sure. And basically after that the nine to twenty
three we hold strong. It is their game basically over with.
But Pittsburgh still is offense. Yes, listen, hey, they did
(12:41):
a better job of running blocking mm hm. They protect
the quarterback zero sets. Miles Garrett only had two tackles,
no pressures, no hits on the quarterback, Like, what are
you talking about? And that is from our tackle that
has been having a down season. He has gave up
the most sacks out of any tackle in the league,
but he didn't get none. To yo, guy, you know
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why because we fly high when the orange in the sky,
I understand it. We got one hundred yards combined rushing.
I'm gonna take it. It ain't from one person, but
I'm gonna take it. And then you know what we did.
We got the tight ends involved Washington's.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Three for sixty two. He actually had five targets.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, Smith was three for eighteen, Connor had a touchdown
for twelve, fire Move had one for eleven. Washington was
the second leading receiver on the team. That's why he
was wide open. They're like, yo, he coming out the block.
Now he ain't just coming out the block. We're gonna
show you that he can do more than what y'all
think he can do. And now you gotta worry about
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them tight ends. Now you're done. Gave Aaron wore targets.
Aaron was greatly effective. You're talking twenty one to thirty two,
thirty five two touchdowns. Here we go, stealers, here we go.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hey, that defense, now the exacts exacts. Hey, listen, we
played the run better.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I know they only rushed seventeen time.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But we played it better.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We ain't get why in the world is what I'm
trying to figure out is why they have him pass
the ball like like like fifty two times.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Why they had that?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What passed ball? You think a rookie go coming. I
understand he got a lot of games under his belt
and all the other stuff. It's a different thing, you
know what I'm saying. When you get to leave, you
gonna have him come in here and think he go
pass on the Pittsburgh still it's fifty two times, and
you gonna win that game. Not to mention that our
defense dropped three folk picks.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That they had in their hands that they should have
came up with. You took the words out of my
You took the word out my mouth with that one.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But hey, all in all, we the Pittsburgh stillers. It's
getting never better every week. And that's all we need
to do is keep inclining so that when we get
to that point when this elimination time, were shooting off
like a rocket.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
No, that is correct, you bo the stiller, Aaron Rodgers
look better. Everything you said is correct. Getting the tight
ends involved, even if they run fo one hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's just giving the ball up, making sure you keep
that thing going, no matter if you're giving it to
jailing or game well, just making sure you got a
run game that's effective and just keep handling the ball off.
So they got to make sure that they watch for that.
So I'm not mad at the Stellers at all. They did.
They did great, and it's looking like they're doing better
and better. Like I said too, how you think Dylan
(15:36):
Gable Do you expect him to come into the you
haven't won it twenty two times there and thuil the
ball fifty two times and win. That's not gonna work.
And then we dropped with like you said too, zero touchdowns,
zero picks, but it hit about three stillers upside the head.
My man junior, Joey put the junior had one smooth,
we had one. The defensive end my man fifty one,
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he had one. It's just a lot of that's that
could have easily been picked. We're not junkins. Ran the
ball twelve times for thirty six yards, like we gotta
get him more opportunities. There's no way that he's going
to walk into that game and be able to go
against the Steelers, and especially when behind the sticks, when
we're letting them dudes blitz, knowing the lines, looking crazy,
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knowing our tackles are having a tough time blocking Swat, blocking,
hot Smith, blocking Cam blocking, any of them dudes.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So that was not it was it was a coaching error.
You can't come in there with a game plan think
you're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
With the Why are you surprised that it's a coaching there,
I'm not supposed. You didn't even know who the hell
is back up with.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Coach coch Debo, debo, I'm not surprised. I'm just stating
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I understand what you're saying. I'm puffing on a cigar.
They ain't even lit. But that's how good I feel, Joe,
That's how good I feel. I could feel what it
feel like if because I just feel so good today.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I got two out. So now when we are put
on my Steelers hat, that was that's the ball that
were looking for. Like Jalen Ramsey out there making sacks.
Everybody communicated that Joe looks kept him out of the
end zone. Obviously, it wasn't maybe too hard because the
Browns offense wasn't really too effective. Dylan Gabriel did do
a pretty good job, but he could have thrown three picks.
(17:18):
Some of his passes was still errant. And I think
he's going to be He's not a bad he's he's
going to be solid.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I don't think the Browns are helping him in any
way with his with his progression of becoming a better
quarterback right now. And that's not to say I want
if they put your door on two gas whatever it is, no, no, no,
for sure, for sure, But I'm saying fifty two times
versus Steelers, and in the first joint in London, like
handing the ball, that was a better process than this.
If they would have came in giving the ball off
the jug, he would have had at least twenty carries.
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Then that's like, okay, bet, you're not trying to set
my man back, but you made him throw fifty two times,
get sacked six times, he got hit up side the
head seventeen times.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like that's so what it came down to, man, is
this our defense played better then y'all defense because we
played against the Browns offense, which is I mean, it's
a professional football team, but it is the Browns offense.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It's the same team who hasn't.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Scored more than seventeen points in the last eleven games straight.
So I mean it's to be expected. And I don't
see why they would have been able to score seventeen
points on us. You know, that's just it's just a
hard nature of Browns playing the Stellers. I mean, de bo.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I mean, look, I'm not here to argue with you.
I'm not here today. I'm not here to argue. I'm
here to argue. I'm here to state how I feel
about the brown situation, and then I'm here to stay
how I feel about the Stellers. Stillers are looking good,
and I would know why you expect for the Browns
to play the still As hard, because that's a division
game and every time they come over there, anything can happen.
(18:54):
But once the game gets to going and people get
to making the players and you see what's going on
in the football field, I was not expecting for the
Stillers to get that game away. They just looked like
they were getting warming up, getting they wheel right, and
then next thing you know, a rod started doing a
rod stuff, and that's just not what we had on
the offen the side of the.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Ball for the Browns. So s yep.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Still is a late in the division, and it don't
look like it's gonna be changing anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No question. It's speaking of the division. The Ravens got
popped too. But I will say this, watching the game, brother,
looking at it, going back and forth in between, I'm
looking the first possession, dude, and Baltimore comes out there
and I'm like, oh, they're getting back to Baltimore football.
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Derrick Henry right, Deck.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Henry Let, Derek Henry right.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Derek Henry Let, Derek Henry right, Derek Henry Lett. They
get a holding penalty that stalls them out. They end
up settling for three. Okay, okay, it's looking alright, it's
looking all right. La comes out out, they move it
a little, but they missed the field goal. Right cool.
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I'm like, all right, the Ravens getting the ball back.
You know, I don't want him to be too sorry,
you know, because we still got to at least have
a little competition, something good for the fans to see.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Don't nobody want.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
To go to the game's twenty one nothing before the
first quarter over and the Ravens come out there and
your boy rushed.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
There was that interception, and.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It kind of felt like after that, La was like, Yo,
y'all ain't gonna one up us on this. Go ahead,
get the sack, fumble, Baltimore, recover the ball, give it
back to him. Hey, hey, they they said the Ravens
definitely played better. Oh yeah, they played better. They played better.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
They played better than I thought Matthew Stafford was gonna
pick them apart. But like like you said, when they
had that strip sack when they were trying to get
down to the score, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Like, okay, look better, better Ravens defense.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So I had to make sure we get him a
little bit of love because they've been looking the worst
in the entire league by far. But they stepped up
a little bit versus the Rams.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, they ended up going forward though that next pos session.
I believe it was fourth fourth thing. I want to
say it might have been one given. No, Yeah, they
went forward on fourth down and they didn't make it,
but I think at that point in time it might
have gave him a shorter feel. They ended up tying
(21:28):
it up three to three and the Ravens get the
ball back and they just totally forget about Dack Henry.
I don't know what happened the day. They just forgot
about what they did the first couple of possessions and
how it helped them out. And immediately the Rams helped
them out too. They just went on here, did a
quick three and out. So Ravens get the rock back.
(21:51):
They're like, oh, yeah, I done forgot we got dead Henry.
So they go ahead start handing that man in the
rock again. But again dude, on fourth and one, they
get zero points at the one yard line.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
This is what they did. They did. They did the
toush push on the third down, and then your man
Derek Camby tried to run it on the fourth down
and lost.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The y'all yode wow. So that right there could have
got you, you know, could have got you three points
if you went on here.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And they went for.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It because immediately beginning the third quarter the Rams drive
on down there, nine plays seventy six yards get the tuddy.
Also they got helped because Pooka ended up getting hurt.
Like he didn't. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't have to
deal with him nothing that whole game. And then the dude,
(22:46):
your boy rush, you come out, fumble the ball, get
it right back to the Rams on the twenty one
and they score another Tuddy.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I guess they got tired and set him down.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Buddy.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That was that. That was all. I guess they take no.
For sure, they ain't do too much man on the
offensive side. And but like you said, I'm blaming that
when you know you don't have Lamar Jackson, keep paying
the ball off that Derek cam until just keep giving them,
just keep giving it to him. He was eating, like
you gotta show me something different.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
For sure, they don't it. You ain't got to really
show him nothing differently. I think I think they ended
up getting a new office coordinator this year. So the
guy that was there yeat last year, did what he
was doing. I think he got the new guy there
finally was like, yo, I guess we gotta we gotta
run the rock if we're going to have a chance.
You know, even then it was still seventeen, you know,
seventeen to three that had a they had an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think it was a fourth down.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They went for it, ended up getting sacked and you know,
from there, Ravens start driving the ball. Believe they turned
over on downs and you know it ain't no more
than just under four minutes left. You know, it's basically
over with after that. But the big thing for the
Ravens is, I think for the offense that first possession,
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they started getting back to Baltimore football. You know, running, running,
Derrick Henry, you know the way he should using Derick Henry,
the way he should be, you know the way he
should be running or used, I should say. And then
you know, the the defense they played better, but you
(24:35):
needed need a little bit more in situational things, I guess,
to get get done with you what you're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I don't think they.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Took took as much planning as they needed to to
try and try and try and finish it out blood
and they also they hurt too, I can give them that,
but they were still playing bad before. No for sure,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
If your offense isn't doing too well. But if you
offense ain't doing good, your defense ain't doing good. I
mean it's it's not it's not a good it's not
a good winning recipe to win games, and your defense
is playing really really bad. You lose your best offensive threat,
Lamar Jackson. Right now, they just trying to stay afloat
and right they're hoping to get him back after the bye.
So I mean, that's the only that's the only chance
(25:27):
they got when you look at it, you know, over
the last what three weeks, they've been outscored ninety eight
to thirty three.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like, you can't. You can't win like that, No debo,
you can't. It's what if they won and five. It's
only been one team since the since you know, they
started the new format of fourteen playoff teams that made
the playoffs. That was one to five and that was Washington.
In twenty twenty, they started winning five and made the playoffs.
Records ain't making the playoffs, you know, no, sir.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And it's not like like you said, the defense, they
hopefully they start getting some players back. Lamar Jackson has
to come back then, Lamar Jackson. Their offense was they
weren't like blowing people out when he was there, and
the defense wasn't playing good. So hopefully if the defense
can start playing better and he comes back with a
flow on how much.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Better you want the defense to play though they already
number one. Joe defense for the Ravens. Oh, I'm tripping.
I'm thinking I'm thinking of Baltimore. Sorry, I mean I'm
thinking of Cleveland. Sorry, Yeah, you know I'm talking. I'm
talking about the Ravens. Okay, yeah, they they they're like
the opposite. They're probably thirty They got thirty two.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
They gotta do they they can. They have a way
to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
They got it. They have a lot of room of improvement.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
If they can get better and start tightening it up
like they did in this game, and Lamar comes back
and performs at a high level, they have to win
out though, like there's not when he gets back there.
One to five is they have to go basically then
and undefeated, because you.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Think he still comes back if the hamstring is a.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Little if he oh, I think if they keep losing
and they lose another they keep if it's he his hamstring,
it needs to be one hundred percent anyway, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And if that takes another.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Two weeks, another three weeks and then they're one and eight,
then I mean, what kind of what.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Is the point? You know what I'm saying, you kind.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Of want him to get back, and if they get
mathematically down they're eliminated. Then you don't want to wrist
lamar Jackson's long term future for him to just come
back and for what.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you there, like you don't
want to have him come back you are dead last
right now and have him going there on a you know,
eighty percent hamstring and he go to hit another gear
and forbid, you know, God forbid tear the thing off
the bone or something like That's that's you know, that's
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something that's gonna lead into the next year.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
The part is not Russia. Don't rush, let him get
all the rest, let him recover, I think.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
One hundred percent for show. Yeah, if they don't, if
they don't let him do that, it's going to it's
not going to be uh. I don't think it'll be
pretty because he he's too he's too loose and powerful.
He's gonna he's not going to think about it. He's
going to go to dig, to take off to get
past somebody. And you know that's gonna be it. You
can't go out there and play it, you know, eighty
(28:11):
percent the way he you know, the way he plays
the game. Yep, he gotta be full till no question.
So during the coach pregame warm up, this was crazy.
The cornerback war, he collided with the tight end ogletree
and suffered a concussion. This boy went into pre game
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concussion protocol out for the actual game, and then Anthony
Richardson he fractured his orbital bone with UH with the
band band. Dude, like, how do you do that? Brother?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You debo you you know how tight them bands are.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He probably was doing like a little a.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Mean handamn strings swing up thing and it's about have
slipped off his foot. Fock.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
He didn't play it out. He didn't play. I didn't play.
He couldn't play. No, he could have.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I got a story for you. I did that same thing, bro.
I blew my orbital in UH in Houston, and my
helmet came and shot down into my eye. And at
the time, bruh, I ain't lie God. So I'm like,
you know how you blink your eyes to try and
(29:32):
get you know, trying to get him back straight. So
I'm sitting there and my eye. What I didn't know
at the time is I blew my ordible. So my
eye was no longer sitting on that potato chip bone,
so it dropped down. So as I'm looking at the
stadium at Houston, I'm seeing four decks. I'm seeing, you
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know how they got the scoreboard across the bild. I'm
seeing two of those and then two of those up there.
But if I close it was my right eye. They
came to one. So I'm like, they like, you got
to I'm like, I ain't got no concussion, dude. I'm like,
I'm just seeing like two of everything. Dude, Like, I'm like,
I'm seeing two of everything. What you mean. I'm like,
(30:15):
I'm telling you, I'm seeing two of everything. Like if
I close this eye, I could do it. So I
go back in. They take me into the They take
me into the locker room and hear the crowd, something's
happening whatever. And by that time, it done got to
where it's not separated like this. Yeah, they're close like this,
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and I'm like, all right, I'm going back out. So
I go back out and I'm on the side, and
you know, I asked my I asked my boys. I'm like, yo,
y'all good, y'all need me to come. I'm like, if
y'all need me, I could come back, bro, I'll come back.
And he's like, man, hey, we go be all right? Bro.
Like like, I'm like, I can come back if you
need me. Like, what was your eye? What was your
(30:59):
looking like? Debo? Was you would you look it? Just
it don't even look like nothing. Bro, Okay, it don't
even look like nothing because it's inside your eye. So
they actually go in your eye to do the surgery
into your eye socket rather to do the surgery. So
I'm like, yo, I could come back if y'all need
me to. But if y'all go be all right, I
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ain't gonna come back, like help go well, we ain't
gonna be all right. I'm like, all right, then I'm
coming back. So what I did is I finished that
game with a fracture orble, so when I would go
to hit somebody, I would just close my right eye
so it would be one person and then i'd opened
it open it back up. So I was crazy. So
(31:41):
I finished that game. I ended up getting the surgery
later early that next week, and uh, that's when I
started wearing a dark dark dark visor because I got
a scratched on my on my retino or something and
it was giving me light sensitivity. So I started wearing
wearing the dark visor. But dude, I finished that game
(32:01):
and I ended up missing, I believe the next two
weeks after I got it. I got it done, but
I played a whole. I actually got the bone, Bro.
I have the bone, the little potato chip bone. I
got it upstairs in refrigerator. I'll make them. I tell them, listen,
anything you take out of me, I'm gonna need to
take with me because I gotta put that back. Droughe
I got pieces of bone from like my back when
(32:23):
they did my micro the second the second time. I
had two of them in nine days. TiVo, You're wild.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Bro, and you get Debo got
bones in defrigerator. Bro, Listen, it's going I was born
with it. It's going back with me back in no question.
(32:43):
Is you all good now though? Or you yeah, it's
good now? It's good now, baby. That was in two thousand.
That was in two thousand and nine. That was like
two games eleven or something like that. It was twenty eleven.
That was like two games. But that's what I'm saying.
So how you gonna put that one back in ay,
here this, I'm just gonna put it in my casket.
(33:03):
Oh that's it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So here, Hey, here's here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So this is this is gonna sound crazy. So when
I first started coming back, so they keep you in
the hospital for a day, and they got to seal
your eyes shut. So they come in the next day
they cut the scissor to cut the two sutures that
that steals your eye and you're able to open it
right the first Oh man, it had to be like
(33:32):
two months, maybe a little more. When I would blow
my nose, air would come out my eyes. Ah, Debo swear,
brouh God, I swear.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It was crazy. Yeah, man, that's crazy. I'm queasy. I'm
but anything like that. I'm like, my man, debo eye,
you talking about bow on your nose? You got air
coming out of here.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's crazy. I don't know if it's normal now, but hey, anthemy,
if that happens, it's normally happened to me. So just
letting you know that first few months you get back,
you go to blow your nose.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I blow my nose real hard though, like I don't
do the quiet. Yeah, no, you gotta go, you gotta
you gotta get it out.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I gotta get that up out of there, so you
know what I'm saying. But yeah, bro, it would it would,
it would blow. It would blow on my eye. And
you know how like in the morning you wake up,
you got some sleep in your eye and you gotta
blow your nose. I would blow my nose, dude, it
would sleep till d bo.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's crazy. Look, bruh, bruh, that's a screen. I'm glad
you're good now.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Ship.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It took like two weeks for you to surgery.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It took two weeks before I was back. They wouldn't
let me. I guess it was something about force of
something and they didn't. They didn't want me. I was
trying to go back. I was trying to go back
that way. I'm like, yo, it's fixed. I can see now.
Everything is won. They're like, no, you gotta let it
heal for a little bit there for sure. Yeah you
wildy bo. Yeah man. So the Chargers beat the Dolphins
(35:10):
and uh your boy tour uh he He had a
little something to say after the game. Yeah, man, just
this was his response. Man, let's show it.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I think it starts with the leadership and in helping
articulate that for the guys, and then what we're expecting
out of the guys, right, we're expecting this, Are.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
We getting that?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Are we not getting that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We have guys showing up to only player only meetings late,
guys not showing up to player only meetings, Like, there's
a lot that goes into that. Do we have to
make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory?
So so it's it's a lot of uh, it's a
lot of things of that nature that we got to
get cleaned up. And it starts with the little things
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like that.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed late.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, hey man, look here, he shouldn't even be answering
any questions about that. But other than it just being
about the game, I understand he might be a little
upset because the defense couldn't hold him for forty six
seconds to make sure they didn't get a field goal.
(36:30):
I can see that. I can understand that. But your job,
if we want to go into it technically like all
the way through, is to score a touchdown every possession.
Just as when I was with the Steelers, my first
you know, my first stint of starting, dude, our job
is to stop them on every job. If we go
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out there as a defense and we do our job
one hundred percent and we never let him score, then
we could point a finger. If you don't go out
there and do your job one hundred percent, you can't
point no fingers mad about some other stuff. You as
an offense, to do your job one hundred percent, you
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got to go out there and score every play. I
know it's unrealistic, but that stops any and everyone from
pointing fingers. That's why we as a defense was like, yo,
we was number five. We're like, y'all, we're trash. We're
horrible right now.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Because if they don't score, we can't lose.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
And on top of that, we can actually help us
win because we can get turnovers and score touchdowns. We
can actually score. What you should have been talking about
to it was the second play of the game. You
threw a pick, You gave them a short field. They
scored a field goal on that, and then you come
in the next possession and you go three and out,
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and then the defense goes and gets you the football
short field score seven. The first possession of the third quarter,
you throw another pick, again, another short field, another short
field and they score a touchdown, you're responsible for ten points.
You're lost by two. Take accountability. What are you even
(38:20):
talking about that for right now? And to be honest,
we knew this was over with week one. Y'all having
a player's only meeting. The head coach needs to be
gone because now the head coach would have been going in.
But now you're telling me that the players in the
locker room don't even have a player they respect enough
(38:40):
to even go to what y'all decided to do as
a player, destroy the whole team, the head coach and
start over. What are you debo? I think you making
perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I say this for one thing, like you said tour,
you have to be performing at such a hot You're
the quarterback of the team. You come out there and
throw three fucking picks, and you're talking about people not
coming to a player's only meeting. Nobody's respecting you as
a leader. For one thing, you're coming out there and
it's a player's only meeting. This is getting out to
the media because of you.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You're making things.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
About people not coming to a players only meeting. And
now if it's a player's only meeting that they're not attending.
It's because they don't respect you, or they're respect you
of a throw in the meeting. These dudes are grown
ass men. If you didn't get this meeting time that
we need to do all way in this facility from
fucking eight to four, think I'm out of here because
all the shit.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
You talking about is not a crazy team. He said
it was online. They ain't even doing this. They're not
even zooming to your shit. Hey, it's over with whoever
the owner, who's owner of the Miami Dolphins. Listen, get
rid of your head. Coach. I don't even know what
he'd be talking about half the time when he having
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an interview. I don't know what he doing that bore
on uppers and downers.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
What's going on. They the team, the players that's supposed
to be your captains, they don't even respect them. Take
them seeds off their chest. Because if that's the people
that making these meeting and ain't nobody showing up, the
respect is lost and gone there, Like you got to
start all the way over man, m.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, I mean for two to be calling people out
like that, it's kind of crazy because obviously you're letting
the media that they don't need to be knowing about
these people not showing up to your players over the meetings.
You need to be go talking to these dudes directly
and getting respect from a man that's on your team
not showing up to your meeting. You think telling the
media that he's not showing up to your meeting is
(40:38):
going to make him want to come, or like you're
trying to embarrass somebody from your team and like, no,
these dudes are invested. No, you grown ass man, it's
another man you're talking about having. So now what's happening?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Now, what's happening? Hey, who ain't going to the meeting?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Who ain't going to the meeting? Now that you go
to the meeting?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Not a reporter is that? And did you go to
the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Did you
go to the meeting?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Oh? They players only meetings is the first thing. And
then people not showing up to your plans only meeting,
car is only meeting. You just lost one and a
half engines. Okay, you're going down. You only got two
and you lost half of the one you had. You're
going down.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Showing up, man, you lost both engines and one of
the wings just fell off that some bitch over.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
It's over with. It's over with. And then like you said, too,
I make the coach. He was a quarterback. He was
the ride receiver coach for the Browns when I was there.
Probably was he like that when you were there was Yeah,
just just just as just like that, the same exact.
He hasn't changed one bit. And that's not in the
bad way. He's a smart mind. But leader of leader
(41:46):
of other men. You know what I'm saying. Asking him
a question, he gave you something that you like this, okay,
that makes sense. Like he's a little you know, just
slowey like you said, you say, you said, you.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Say, you you say, I think, dude, I could have
did better than that.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
And I'm horrible at public speaking, like I'm trash.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
No, no for sure. Uh uh uh I don't even so, yeah,
you ain't saying nothing. Oh you said was h yeah,
so he said, uh you know we are and uh yeah,
and you know he understand uh huh, you said a
whole lot of when when when I.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Fired, uh yeah, uh fire?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Uh you know he said, yeah fired, man, it was
it's going over there in mind they gotta do better.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Man, that's it's not looking good.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You can't listen, man. Yeah, And like you said, you're
you're you're putting it out there now and you're putting
it out there to hope to shame the dudes and
to come and.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Like that's even worse. That's hard. They don't respect you.
You trying to literally, I said, you going to the
media about them not coming to your pride.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Now they looking at you like, damn fed you a
snitch whole time. I guess they already knew you was
the police. Now they for show, not for show. The bro,
you're gonna do eighty eighty five percent of your time
(43:34):
for sure? What did he look?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Dad said something about you see Dad's tweeted about it.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
They say, I want to know what part of this
is going to take accountability? For two or through three
picks today? Two is the third in the NFL with
the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback. If you haven't
said this privately first, then then in the media, I
don't respect it. And since we are on the topic
of respect, I guarantee a lot of the players don't
(44:01):
respect to her. Two points the finger and literally has
four pointing back at him.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
If you want to win, put e worse in. Who
is worse man?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
It must be the backup quarterback. Mhmm, that's crazy. I
ain't even heard him and he would he read he
ready to put it in.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
But that's that's exactly what we were saying, though. I
mean that ain't that ain't no news flash, that's that.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It is what it is, like, we're saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Bro. We've been in the locker rooms before.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
We know when people are in their thing, and like
at the end of the day, like there was there
was player only meetings that we did once a week
for the stellers, like the dbs would do everybody all
the DB's in there and we will host it ourselves
and would have food. You know what I'm saying, Like
somebody had to get food from a good ass spot
and we were white.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
But you're not. You're you're not having a meeting to
try and figure out why the hell is going to
You're having an extra meeting to play and get ready
for the opponent that you're playing against, and extra stuff to.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Eat and and and you know, and and hang out
together to quote that, But what I'm but what I'm
saying is do at the same time with that debo
at the end of the day, people don't got to
go to those do you know what I'm saying, Like
that is extra, that is after, but there's a respect.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That when I came there, that was there.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
It's mandatory, Like it's not, but it's mandatory because whatever
else you're gonna do, like were gonna come, were gonna
have this meeting, all the boys gonna link up, and
we look forward to it because I alight, bet like
when my boys back the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Like they don't have to be that way.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
But knowing like people respect their leadership. Dudes, everybody understands,
like Nigga, if Joe, if Joe in there, I'm in there,
you know what I'm saying. If I'm like, why but
I being there, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like a it's an unspoken because you could tell the
dudes of respect the people. If you say something, then
they're gonna just come because you're not just saying stuff
out you ask something you not want to even it's
just because it is what it is. Boom, We're just gonna.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Come, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
I don't know. We got to make a mandatory what
what what.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
That's that's just like I'm not making the manage. But
we if we say it's like they it's a respecting
if things when you you just stop talking all the time.
So when you somebody were to say something, then that
means he okay, boom, he means he can talk.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Toy Palamalu never went out, never party, never did anything
but come rookie dinner. Troy is going out.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Why because that's.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
What it is. It's camaraderie. It's an event that happens
every year.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
He's not like he drank.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Or anything, but he was there.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
He was there, was there. Mm hm. That's the volumes
Broy's volumes for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yes you ain't you ain't. Yeah, but mandatory on something.
Stop stop playing man, Listen. Denver went on ahead and
beat the Jets. It was thirteen to eleven, but like
it really wasn't like that club. It was close, but
it wasn't that close, dude. Denver's defense. They just dominated
these boys. Man, they didn't lie. These boys run the ball,
(46:54):
they ain't on the pass the ball. They shut down everything.
Man running back only No, he had twenty two carries, bro,
and only fifty nine yards. Like fields, this boy sacked
nine times. You know what happened? Well, he said, listen,
for every completion I get, I'm gonna let y'all get
a sack. So he had nine completions and they got
nine sacks on that had that that that's the only
(47:16):
That's the only thing I could say.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I know, man, I'm just telling you, that's the only reason.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
That's the only way I could see that, you know,
it was you know, that's how they minded it out.
They they only converted I think what two maybe third
downs two? That was it? A total of eighty two
yards period, Dude? How are you negative ten passing yards?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
It that they was? They were they was. They was
hitting there was dude. They was hitting justin fields, dude,
so much. Not that I ain't even talking about the
you know, just the sacks. They hit him fifteen times too,
Like I, what in the world is popping over there?
(48:04):
This was what I woke up at nine. Like the
Denver's offense.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Really, they ain't do nothing, bro.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
All they had to do was sit out there, man,
and just don't turn the ball over. And that's it. Brother.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
What I'm trying to say is I watched that game
from beginning to end because it was the London game.
It was nine thirty in the morning, and I was geeked.
I'm like, okay, bat, we got good football. I'm gonna
watch this entire game and see what's going on with
the Jets because Aaron Glenn was my dB coach.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I love I like Aaron Glenn a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Great.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Okay, so you're about to say something because you said
you like him a whole lot. That's be facing with negative.
You're about to come with go ahead. No.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It was the worst offense to display I've ever seen.
Like their defense was playing amazing, turning the ball over
putting him in great field position, pump returns putting them
in great field position.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
My man fields only had like.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
He has short fields the whole first half to just
try to get something going. They couldn't move the ball
at all, negative ten passing yards. The running game, it
looked like it almost looks like they weren't trying and
justin feels simple speed outs like.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Routes on air.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
When your receiver Gary was running the speed out and
he's throwing it in the dirt behind him, making them
fall back. It just looks like the simple passes he
could not make, you know what I'm saying. So I
was looking at it because I'm like, Okay, Denver isn't
doing anything. Also, like bow Nicks loved them to death,
but their defense was playing great.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
They made them pump the ball eight times.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
He had eight punts, so like they kept giving them opportunities,
turnovers on short fields, great punk returns, and it's like
justin fields, you're not doing anything, like you're harming your team.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Somebody just throw the ball up, get him out. I mean,
he can do better. He could definitely do better. But
also you got to realize, I believe they offensive coordinator.
I think this is his first time being an offensive coordinator,
so maybe he's not able to fit his offense or
play call to what it is. That strength of Justin
is also Justin.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Been in a lot of teams though, bro.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
And just stay me. The one thing that I didn't
like when we picked Justin up. I'm like, we picked
him up, Okay, cool, you ain't really have to do
nothing to get him or give up anything to get him. Yeah,
But the thing that caused me to have to worry
was when he was saying about his offensive coordinator in Chicago.
He was like, it was along the lines that they
(50:25):
got me thinking too much. They just need to let
me go out there and play. And that to me said,
I can't understand this game. I can't learn it, I
can't read it. I can't get the ball where it
needs to go in time. That's what it said to me.
So that's him not being able to perform the level
he needs to and understand the game that he needs
(50:46):
to understand. So I'm seeing it at a fifty on him,
maybe sixty on him, and the coordinator is not giving
plays and designing things that's going to be beneficial for
his talents.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I think Justin Feel's talents are very I think just
until His talents are his athleticism and his mobility, but
being able to if you can't read defenses fast and
you think that like sometimes offenses I'm not trying to say,
but if you say, like he's giving you too much
some that's that's what quarterbacks do. Quarterbacks have to know
(51:22):
what everybody's doing and what the defenses are doing in
the checks. And it's a lot of information. That's why
that's the hardest position in the league by far, because
just the amount of information that you have to process
and then a fast level.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
So when dudes are.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Movement trying to like bluff you and you don't know
where the coverage is and then they start they can
trick you. That means that you're not that good of
a quarterback, you know what I'm saying, because you have
to be able to execute and be able to get
things on the fly and be able to know what
everybody's doing with your whole offense in the position.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
So if you're like, oh, no, it's too much for
me to I'm sorry, that's not bad your professional quarterback.
These dudes are making sixty million dollars a year so
they can process information, so they can do these things
and be able to get all these other guys in
the right spots.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
So I understand completely.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
But when I'm looking at it, I'm like, yo, if
you don't know how to read the defense and then
like throwing bad passes for quick outs that are like
rousse on air, I'm sorry, we need to find another guy.
Like a lot of this stuff like it could be
offensive coordinator too, but some of the stuff just looking
at him like, boy, you're not helping, you're hurting the squad.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Oh, no question, dude. And then you got you know,
you got Garrett Wilson. He had an exchange with Aaron
Glenn going into halftime like what what do you think?
Speaker 2 (52:39):
He said, Look, because you saw like they just they
didn't even look like they were trying.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
To get a field goal.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
They were down at the fifty yard line with thirty
seconds left and they just let the clock run out,
like they didn't even try to get another ten yards
run up, spike.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
It, get a field goal.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
He's like, oh no, like Aaron like they didn't even believe.
They thought, oh no, he might through a pick, he
might take a sack.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Something bad is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Let's just get in the halftime instead of let's go
get let's go get some points on the board, let's
try to get some more men. I'm going in the halftime.
You going a halftime looking like this, Oh, let's just
not fuck this up. And Gary Wilson is standing there like,
don't be the ball, like I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Get us activated.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Let's get let's get going and he's walking off and
sees that the coaches aren't going to call a play.
I'm pissed. I'm like, what are we really doing? Are
we not trying to score? Are we not trying to win?
Speaker 1 (53:27):
I think that you're happy with the with the process,
with the progress that you have right now at this
point in the game, That's what. And they may have
been too scared to actually go because when you're getting
pressure like that sacked left and right, you know you
you only want to play away from that sack.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Fumble to the house.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, but he came on.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
It's coming off of a completion, a rare completion. He
had one, so that everybody's running up he had nine
of them, baby, bro, he only had nine. They coming
off a very completion. Everybody looking at thirty seconds come
down and then he's They just looking at each other like, Okay,
let's just wait for this thing. Let's just go in here,
go down. You think to a row the fuck down
(54:08):
now road.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
And then they still only lost like two points, dude,
Like that tell you how much of nothing Denver's offense
was doing.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
Dude, But I'm putting it to Denver's offense was doing
nothing but damn it. The defense of the Jets was balling.
They were creating turnovers and like getting off the field
on third downs. They was doing their part. So like
that's why I look at the offense like you can't
you had thirty There was like thirty three hours in
the first half and thirty forty something and the second
half of im looking, I'm like, yo, that's crazy, like
(54:41):
all all over the whole whole game.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
That's that's crazy. That's bad ball. So the Chiefs beat
the Lions thirty to seventeen. But that wasn't that wasn't
a big to go to. It was after the game
when Branch refused to shake Mahome's hand and then went
up to Juju and basically shoved him, punched him in
his face and his helmet, and then the brawl started.
(55:07):
Dan Campbell he did not like it. He called out
his player and you know, what is what is your
what is your take on this? You are about players,
you know doing extra curriculus after the game. Man, I'm
not about it at all.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
I don't, I don't. I'm not here for you got
three hours in that game to literally in between the whistles,
do what you gotta do. It's a physical, brutal sport
where you can really go get your revenge and in
a good way and not like trying to hurt nobody.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
But yeah, you can get physical.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
You can come and smack somebody bomb yeah, and like
you can really get your get back in between the
whistles in the football game. So I'm thinking after the game,
once it's all over, is what it is. It's a
competitive juices get up, people get feeling some type of
ways back the end of the day, we're all in
the NFL, We're all trying to provide for our families,
(56:02):
do the right thing, and like just hope hopefully nobody.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
I'm trying to go out there to like injure anybody.
So my whole thing is emotions get high. But once
the game is over, the game is over. I'm trying
to get back to the crib, back to the family
and get out of there. But I just don't understand
how I mean, you could walk up on you. I
saw like no handshake and then just hop my man,
That's why that's not okay. You know what I'm saying.
(56:24):
It was he Loki had his hand out. Yeah that
you can't do that. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
It's not really anything. Is it anything that somebody can
say to you that will cause you to do that?
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Honestly, bro unless nobody, If you don't put your hands
on me, then it is what it is, you know
what I'm saying. Like I always like words that you
can talk, people get in emotions, but like once you
get physical, once you put your hands on me, then
that's a whole different game, you know what I'm saying.
So like people altercations, people talk whatever, but after the game,
I'm out of there. Like you can be grown enough
to be try enough to walk away. There's not too
(57:01):
many things that nobody could say to me to have
me up up in a roar like that.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
But I feel like.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Once you touch me, then it's then then it's and
then it's fucking and then it's all hell break loose.
It doesn't matter like you did that now what you
overstepped for sure, words can be smoke whatever, whatever, and
we go our separate ways. It is what it is.
But once you start putting your hands on once you
start touching, keep your hands to yourself, you know what
I'm saying, Like, Yeah, that's that's that's how I feel
about that.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, it really ain't nothing you can say to me,
that's go cause me to do that because I'm already
thinking about money and in today's there how dudes post
social media this and that. If you really want to
do this and we got a problem, you want to
say meet and meet, can meet? We can meet.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
It's nothing. Probably training in the same state.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Like if it's really that that real, we can meet
in the off season. This ain't no. And you could
do it behind closed.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
Doors, you know how that is. Bo If dudes really
want smoke, now you know how to find each other.
It's very easy. It could do it quietly. Yeah, matter
of fact, you get to walk into him a juju.
You know what I'm saying. You're gonna have to see
about me whatever whatever, and they can literally link and
if you really wanted to do it. But that is
just a like motion pop off. You know, it's about
to be a whole sh bang.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Money's gonna get fined.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Everybody's gonna be talking about this instead of what really
happened in the game, you know what I'm saying. So
if you really wanted it, then we could make it happen,
but like, I just don't feel that's just like that.
Come on, man, you know, and I'm not not not
knocking the branch character or anything, but that's just not
a good look. Just walked up to my man bomb
and it is what it is. Yeah, yeah, good lord.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
We almost listen tonight Chicago and at Washington. Okay, that's
tonight's game, all right. We want to thank y'all for
joining us. Time went fast that time, man. We want
to thank y'all for joining us on this episode. The
de Boy and Joe Man hit the like and subscribe button.
We will be back here on Tuesday. Joe's stuff. Hauh, Hayden,
(58:53):
what you got to say?
Speaker 2 (58:55):
We will be on Tuesday to talk about the Bears game.
See what they're talking about, Bears versus Washington. Commanders's actually
up the street. I'm thinking I might go up there
and see what JD is talking about.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
I hate to let, you know, jump in there, you
know what, and we out
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