Deebo & Joe - REACTION to MNF: Seahawks-Texans & Bucs-Lions + Dolphins DUMPSTER FIRE - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Debo and Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
How you doing today, Joe man, I'm doing good, Debo,
you know I'm doing good. I'm happy that we're back,
you know, live today. I know you've messed up the
whole Wi Fi system. Yesterday you didn't want to talk
about no Brownie. So I'm glad to be back here
with you so we can talk this.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Bog football, the Browns. You know that that's gonna have
the way. That's the kind of old news.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
If we get to it, we get to it. But
we're got to talk. We got to talk about these Lions.
We gotta talk about the Monday night.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
First we got to the Lions went on head out
there and they put they they put their hands on
Detroit first possession. They pop out and they hit one
for thirty and twenty seven. Little short window that went
for twenty seven for a Tuddy jumped on their neck
immediately seven nothing, bro, Yeah, it was all around Saint

(01:08):
Brown Tuddy off rips. Oh yeah, it was. It was good.
Then Tampa come out there. They can't they can't do nothing.
The defense was doing their thing, you know, they bought
them three and out immediately, you know, Detroit comes back
out there and man sack fumble. Dude, Tampa.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
The defense was playing well, yeah, this is playing well early.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now, I don't know about too good early.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
They did enough early to make sure it didn't get
too directly.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
It didn't get out the line.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
The Lions helped them out. But you know, there was
a little bit of turnovers.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I mean, something to Tampa didn't on that turnover the
same thing. It was another three out that didn't anything,
you know, to convert on it. And then the following possession,
Detroit goes and they go for it, you know, for
four on fourth at the twelve yard line and don't convert.
Wild'ing out yeah, I mean, you know, that's that's what
he does.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Though. No, No, he wasn't well enough. I like that.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I like that he's aggressive. He leaves in the squad. Yeah,
and then like you said, the defenses was playing. You know,
you just got punk punk put you know, Detroit gets
back out there and that man Gibbs went on head
and showed him with twenty two twenty two miles an hour,
stepping it the safety.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
He couldn't even catch him.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, he had the amb He ran away from his angle,
broke his angle, ran broke his angle. Yeah, Gibbs got.
Gibbs has speed. Gibbs got.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
As soon as I saw him, let loose, I was like,
oh he gone.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
He gone, so he gone. Oh yeah that dude hours
he was floating. Bro he was floating.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Set he gone.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Man, Detroit get down there right before I think the
two minute, they kick a field goal.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
And they missed the field goal. Dude, Yes, that was big.
Oh no, didn we went with yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
That was big. And then you know they get back.
They able to stop them. But Tampa, they interception, come
back through Detroit say you know what, man, I'm gonna
have to return the favor, do.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
It right back, do it right back to him, right.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
To do it right back to him.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Tampa able to go down there and get a get
a quick get a quick three three before yep, they get.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
A quick three points. Now it's three to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You know, looking at it from you know, just a
halftime thing, you're looking like, yo, this game should have
been way more out of control than than what it
ended up being. You know, three to fourteen right there
at the half, and you have Tampa. They come out,
you know, beginning of that, I believe again of that
third quarter. They drive down the field, they score a touchdown,

(03:50):
but they ended up going for that too.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
They missed it.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Two dude, Tad Johnson fifteen with that Alay catching it,
jumping over people getting into the zone.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
That was five. Yeah, but Detroit comes right back, bro,
they answered, Bro Gibbs the whole way.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Bro Gibbs was running through them, dudes, Bro the whole time,
having having.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
The way twenty one to twenty one and nine now yep, and.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Then later Tampa goals for it. They get it. They
think they got.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It, but later on the review thought he got it.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I didn't think he got it. You didn't think you
got me.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Actually touched the ground. The ball is short. You can
see it right there, especially when they got that that.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Side view right there.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
You can see it like he's like that far from
from the line. But that's you know what I'm saying,
that's it what matters.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yep, yep, yep. Game.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, So that's short. They're able to you know, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
And bank in the doink joint bank bank the field goal.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
So that's that's right there. That put him up twenty
four to nine. And Tampa goals and they they do
a nineteen plays, dude, convert two of the two fourth downs, okay,
and then they use up i think almost six minutes.
But on their third fourth down they don't convert it.
They get no points. They done used up so much clock.

(05:16):
You know that they're able to you know, get the
ball back, but basically you know it's over from there.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yep. They get another one downs, yeah, and they you know,
they end up running the clock out.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
But dude, Gibbs seven teen one thirty six on the rush,
another three for eighty two on receiving this, dude had
two hundred and eighteen yards total. Bro And then like
he almost had more than all of Tampa had had together.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Saint Brown went on ahead added another six for eighty six.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Detroit's offensive line was working doing anything, The defensive line
was working doing anything. Had Baker under pressure all night, Dude,
he couldn't. He couldn't step into a lot of his throws,
and then some of the throws that you know he
could step in or couldn't step into. He was just
trying to fire him so hard that he was just
making high throws to where you know, the guys just

(06:12):
couldn't even you know, get get up to him and
get and catch him. And the dv's dude, the dvs
for Detroit, they did they thing, dude. Boh yeah, Starters.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Was in there. Bro. It wasn't what maybe what one or.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Two, one or two and my man twenty three he
was out there walking. He wasn't even supposed to be
out there playing balling, making plays, you know what I'm saying,
making plays on the ball. And they're aggressive. I like
the way that they get after people, punching, stripping the
balls out like my man Sterling Shepherd, he caught it
and then they were able to just they're ball hawking.
They're going after the ball. They're not just having they're not.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
And they tacked. They sure in the tackle and punching
the ball.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Dude, Yes, first man, secure, second man, get the rock.
Like you see them videos. They're doing it by themselves,
secure and punched.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I'll get that back. I need that. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
No for show Detroit was balling and that's why. That's
why I think that team did that, because it's an
offense and defense. I think they left a lot of
things on the table, you know what I'm saying. But
they're aggressive team going forward on some of the fourth downs,
golf throwing some invalid interceptions, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
That normally doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
But you see when they start giving the ball to Gibbs,
get the ball in his hands, let that thing go,
and then play action and throw it to Amaran s.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Brown.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know what I'm saying, he's very They have so
many you gotta.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Realize they got a two headed master over there. They
got Montgomery. They do usually if one ain't going, the
other one is. So it's kind of hard to bottle up,
you know, two guys like that, especially when you're giving
them enough. You know, you're giving them enough touches. You know,
it's hard to keep that going.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I'm rocking with what I see with Detroit through they
look like a really good team. I'm saying they had
a couple of little miscues, you know what I'm saying
that that game couldn't have It didn't have to be
that close, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I thought they were able to blow them dudes completely
out because every time they thought they was gonna get
a chance that defense will make a play and get
a ball back to the offense, they're like, all right,
bet now we're gonna go handle this. So I mean,
shout out to the Lions. They look good with I'm not.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'm not discouraged with Tempa. Everybody's like, oh, Baker this, No,
I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm not tripping on that.
It's not It's not.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Gonna be every game that you go get that that
amount of pressure on him and have him had that
many high air and throws like, you know, I still
I still believe, you know, Baker is still you know,
one of the top guys this year.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
So yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
And then also him him out there with he was
still trying to do it with Mike Evans. That was
kind of not healthy in him hurting itself.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Man.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Shout out to mic I hope that he's able to heal.
You know what I'm saying, whatever you got to get
his surgery or whatever it is. He broke his clavial
I hate to see you hate the hate to see
that because he's a you know, he's a ball a
great dude. But just that that's another reason why like
him and and Buka was a little injured too out there.
So uh, just I believe in Baker, I believe in offense.

(09:02):
This is the one time thing.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
The whole secondary Detroit was was depleted.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Now that's their next their next man up balling. And
they've been doing that for a while. You know, they
were stepping by injuries last year, you know what I'm saying.
And then people just I love the coach the right
way in my opinion too, So I think the coach
got next man up. These dudes better be ready to go.
And I think that they're showing it. Yeah, Yeah, definitely.

(09:27):
That's something that's something that everybody.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Gives a lip service to, but there's very few that
can go in there and and get it done and
get some semblance of you know, the guy that they're
they're replacing. Yeah, especially once they're getting into you know,
they're bringing up practice squad guys and all the other
stuff too. You know, like that that was that was wild.
Bro to see that that kind of performance.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's kind of I think that's that's an example of
for show like next man up. But like you said to,
your coaches have to be able to like you gotta
have them dudes ready to play. You're not just throwing
them out there, dud look ready.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know what I like about Detroit is a lot
of their coaches are former players. And when you have
a coach coach in a position or a side of
a ball that has played that position that side of
the ball, for him to give you the nuances of
the position, you know, for me, Coach Butler, I give him.

(10:25):
I give coach Butts all the credit for developing as
a linebacker, Like he's the guy that taught me to,
you know, play something like this or what's the difficulties
of this and knowing that you know what, this is
going to be hard to do, but it's difficulties in
everybody's position and job. Yeah, and that's something you're going
to go out there and you're going to have to do.

(10:45):
And being able to just foot positioning of being lined
up to where Okay, I'm gonna make this job easier,
like instead of lining up with my you know, outside
outside foot up and you know I'm going to rush
the passer. That means I got a step with my
inside foot first. So if he actually comes to hook me,
I just helped him hook me because I stepped in

(11:08):
with the opposite foot. That's why you always supposed to
line up with your inside foot up, because your first
step is your outside. So if he's coming to hook you,
you can jamming. Then stay there. If he's blocking down,
your planet to be able to squeeze down and close
off that gap, like you know, it's things like that.
And they have a lot of coaches they got I

(11:32):
believe they got the Shade Townsend.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
He's the he's the dB dB coach. I believe they
have Antoine Rendauh.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I believe he's over there too. The decordinator is a
former linebacker. You know, like like when you and when
you look at his you know, just how long has
he been there in Detroit? The head coach when you
when you look at his coaching trade like it's spread
out and he's only been there what six years or
so more or five something like that, four to six years,

(12:04):
I don't, you.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Know, it hasn't been that long.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
It hasn't been that right, and you know he got
gods spread all over the place, you know, and he's
not afraid to put you know, people in positions to
help advance them, even though that may mean he may
lose some credibility, But you don't lose the credibility. You
gain it because you're putting people in there that you're
seeing the potential of and they're going out and having success.

(12:28):
And when you have that dude, that that's you know,
that just speaks to what kind of coach he is.
You know what kind of leader he is?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
No, one thousand percent, because that's that it speaks volumes
because at the end of the day, when I when
you watch that stuff, man, and like you said, when
you had a coach that played the position and can
show you nuances and the content not and it can
also tell you you can't do everything, like I need
you to handle this. So but if this happens, that's
on the defense. You gotta be able to make this

(12:56):
play like not everything is your fault, you know what
I'm saying, Like you can't be able to having coaches
that can understand that part is one of the biggest things.
I'm like, man, I can go hard for you because
you're not going to be sitting there like no, You're
supposed to do this, You supposed to do that. Tell
me exactly what I'm gonna do, my alignment, my assignment,
some things I'm gonna be able to take away this
on this inside leverage, he does not getting aside. If
he runs an outside breaking route, it may be a

(13:17):
catch and tackle next play.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's that calls on the defense.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I can respect the coach so much harder that can
tell me that than a man's like, no, he doesn't
catch anything, like no out.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
And like if a coach.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Told me, if you're trying to cover everything, you're covering
nothing exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
And that's something that decoordinators have to just be like,
you know what, if this hits, it's on the defense.
You can't try and fix every little situation because when
you fix the one, you open up two more. Every
defense has a weakness and decoordinators that are like, hey,
if they hit this, it's on us. We got to
just rally and tackle, tackle. Let's get here and do that.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
And like I said, like you look at him, I
think he got two head coaches already in this coaching tree.
You got what's his name is Chicago? Which is that man?
It was Detroy also in.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, Ben Johnson and Chicago. You got Aaron Glenn that's
in at the Jets. Like it's guys are going from
you know, coaching at a positional coach to coordinators being
a coordinator to a head coach, like the linebackers coach.
Look at him right there, he's the decordinator.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
He like that.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
How many people would have thought that he would be
able to do what he's he's been doing, like first
year decordinator. Like Yo, you buy in when it's a
former player. You buy in when it's a person that
actually played the game well, understands the game. It's a
lot of guys that play the game well that can't
coach it. Did you know what I'm saying. I understand that.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
But you got you got to be able to give
give a guy.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
A chance, especially when you see, you know, what he
did as a player and then how he understood the
game as a player.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I don't you know. I like.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I like what they're doing Detroit. Man like Dan Campbell
is doing something special. Man, He's giving guys chances. He's
not afraid to put guys in position. You know, I
think some coaches may be afraid to have you know, Uh,
like have credit taken away from them?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
No credit given to you? Yes, Like that's that's that's
just how it works, you know what. I like that whole.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I feel like he's holding people accountable over there too,
you know what I'm saying, Like, Yes, everybody's everybody's held accountable.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I think that's a big thing too.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Like if you're if you're a coach that played and
you're not a good coach, you're going to be held accountable.
Like it's not just giving everybody the opportunity, but dudes
that are in there, they're bone like the defensive coordinators,
like give them a shot.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And it's not like, you know, you're.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Just going to get this job as opportunity because this
is what you do and hopefully you're good. No, you're
gonna be held to a standard. You're gonna be able
to coach, well know what you're doing, be able to
deliver the message, and if you can't do that, whatever,
but if you can. He's hiring dudes that obviously can
and are bringing the energy, bringing the vibes, and dudes
want to fight for those dudes to tell like when
you watch them.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Play, yeah, for show for show, I'm gonna hit it
like my dude foot Detroit Detroit based foot say, hey, Detroit,
I see what y'all doing.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
What up? Don't up, don't look, We're gonna go over
here to Seattle. Man.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Seattle beat, Seattle beat the Texans twenty nine to seventeen. Brother,
that was an interesting game, bro. You know the first,
you know, the first possession of Seattle's they get that
little short feel, they score seven, and uh, I think
the next possession they ended up getting I think an

(16:36):
unnecessary roughness ended up giving them an extra fifteen next play,
twelve yard touchdown. It's fourteen nothing. Before you even turn
your head, you know what I'm saying for show like
it's fourteen nothing. And then later on, like I think
Houston got it was a safety sack fumble to Uh.

(16:58):
I don't know what happened there. They gave him two points,
then they took the two points away. I still I'm
still confused on what happened there. But they somebody ended
up getting the ball back and they didn't really do
anything with it. I think the next possession, Seattle.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
We're talking about the strip, the strip talking about were
talking about the Seattle get a touchdown to Seattle Houston.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I thought, got well, Seattle got the safety on Houston,
but then he fumbled the rock.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
He fumbled the rock and said it was a it
was a touch safety.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, they said it was a safety. Then they said
it was a touchback. I don't know. Oh, okay, now
I know what you ain't talking about. Yeah, I don't.
I don't. I don't know how that works.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Then Seattle goes and I don't know why they tried
to do it a trick play.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
They were the Cooper cup through the perfect.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Pick, through the man through the perfect pig bru like that.
I'm like, usually you get you know, usually you want
to try and make sure it's short if anything, like
he it was out far and over the head straight
to homeboy.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Like man, that wasn't good. That was that was bad business.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, that was They was able to get three points
off of that. Yeah, you end up three to fourteen
when the game definitely did not look like a three
to fourteen game at that.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because the Houston the Seahawks defense was balling.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yes, they just kept making.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Houston punt punt, punt, punt, punt. Not the way y'all
about to be able to get up twenty one egg
walking it down and then you do do you out
trick yourself and.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Then and then you come back, you get the ball,
you drive down there and you right.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Before the two minute one, you get your you get
your your field goal block.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
You're thinking you're going in the halftime, you get your
field goal block, and then they go down and get
a field God on you right now, we got an
eight point game. Now in this sixty fourteen is not
supposed to be that way. It's supposed to be a
twenty one probably twenty one zero worst case scenario seventeen.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Right, Like, Yeah, I was, I was, I was. I
was a little disappointed. I won't I won't say so.
I was just disappointed. I'm always disappointed when defenses don't hold,
especially when it's it's a it don't it don't matter,
it's a defense playing against the Stellers that they playing
and still don't want to fail every time. Yeah, I

(19:34):
don't never want to. I don't want to be able
to stop nothing. You want to have to have a
bat's worth.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Defense to day.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Ever, when you're playing against Pittsburgh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, and so you know you game.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Close, you're thinking it's about to go ahead, and and uh,
your boy go out there and throw them a good pick.
Soon as they come.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Back out and out of halftime, second play, second pl
hey boo, no, here you go.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You know that field goal, y'all miss here? Go ahead?
Get it back seventeen seventeen seventeen six.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Now man, yep, you know Seattle, get it back Seattle.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think the following possession, Seattle ended up getting it.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And Houston gets a sack fumble bro for a touchdown?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Bro, how'd that happen? When see hold on? Did Seattle
got the strip sack? Seattle got strip sacked Houston? Yes,
just the sack fumble for the touchdown for the touchdown. Yes,
that's what I'm saying. Yes, yes, yeah, it's a fight.
It's a fight.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
They're going off to two. They missed the two though,
it's seventeen to twelve.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
And yes, his defense is fighting back, like they end
up they got points without even scoring.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh right, right, dude, The office is not helping him.
M Seattle was able to come.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Back and answer Phil the field goal, you know, and
then you getting to.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Uh you know, you're getting to the foot.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Oh no, this is when it gets crazy debo. Now
Houston gets the joint on the third they go forward
on third and one and fourth and one, right and
and but that's that's nothing to do with that's your
offensive line get pushed back.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
It was in the backfield on both of those players.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
They've reset the line of the last when they lost
two yards on it. Bro, that's that's yeah, you're not
that's not winning football. You try to go hard like, yeah,
we're gonna get we gon can we get?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Can we get a yard? No? Right, you can't. Right,
that's yeah, that's that's all. That's all on the offensive line.
That's that.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
That's just offensive period. Gave him a short field. They've
been going down. You've been You've been spotty at best
on trying to stop them. They score another touchdown. It's
twelve to twenty seven. Dug yep, I don't Houston. And
again that's for Houston. That number was actually good depending
on you know, how you look at how you look

(22:03):
at the way they were.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Playing, then you know for sure they still they feel
like they're still in it. They they it could have
been way uglier than that.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, and Seattle went out and helped them out. They
fumbled the ball. Houston recovers it. That's that's you know,
early in the fourth quarter. But that but that, But
that's what I'm saying too. It wasn't even that he
just accidentally fumbled it. They ripping at the ball. They
was going, they was going a whole deal. You gotta
hold it, got a hold. They don't get nothing from it.
But then go and.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Throw an interception. Yes, man, get right back to him again.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
He threw the wrong way, stinging and then the seattle,
so he threw the ball away. Then they get the
ball back and then Stingley gets a pit mm hmm.
And then they went crazy on the sideline. They got
the little shuffler joy you see the rough come cover
them up, making sure.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I got you.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I got you, brother, I got you, I got you. Look,
guess what my man told him. He said he got
him in his fantasy. I said, y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Even Houston get a touchdown though, well just I think
it was just just over two minutes left. Yes, yeah, dude,
we in dog fight now nineteen well what could have
been dall fighting, you know, nineteen to twenty seven, you know,
and then see attle, dude, they get that Houston well,
Seattle gets the ball, then Houston gets that unnecessary roughness

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dude on that third down, and basically that gives him
the first.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
They able to do it, they do game over look
the clock. Yeah, yeah, dude, Houston, dude, they got an
offense problem. Dude. They can't run the ball at all.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
They not consistently on anything. They're not protecting, They're not
protecting the quarterback. They couldn't at least do anything. I
think they sacked him but three times and hit him
another eight eight or seven eight, nine times something like that,
you know, and then when they get down in the
red zone, dude, they gotta they gotta score touchdown.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
They can't. They can't. They can't keep kicking field goals.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I'm gonna say it was a big time for me.
It was off It was a It was a lot
of offensive line, you know, just a lot just certain
places getting no push and he's not getting too much protection.
I think they gotta do better on the offensive line side,
because those third and ones, those third and those I
mean those third and ones, those fourth ones.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, the one in the third quarter where they didn't
get nothing, and then you know, Seattle goes and gets
a touchdown from it. That's dude, that's a hell of
a points swing right there, along with you know, penalties,
penalties hurting too. That kept drives going, stop drives all,
you know, all that stuff. But Houston's defense, dude, you

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know they're they're they're bawling. But you know, like again
that the big the big play at the end. You know,
it magnifies when you're towards the end, but the defense
is nowhere near it. Fall for this. It's the offense.
They gotta, they gotta, they gotta, they gotta get something done.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Seattle of course came out ear really and jumped on them,
but you know they were able to hold that, you
know to what they you know, what they needed to as.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Far as coming into halftime, you know all that all
that happening.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, and you know the fourth downs when you're going
for it on fourth downs, they went over three.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Houston went oh three on fourth downds Like.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Those are bad turnovers.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
That's like, yes, the pressure on the quarterback, the sacks,
the heads, you know, that's just that that's not that's
not conducive to you know, winning games, especially you know
when you're you're playing against a team that could put
points on the board like they did, and.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
That do JS and Jack and Smith and Jigba every
time they needed to play, throw it to him Donald.
I think sometimes the people would overthink and if you
got one on one, you got man, the man that
you like, your guy over there, guy.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Look off and throw it to him.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
You know what I'm saying, Like, sometimes it's just that
easy to go against your matchup, saying sometimes sam Donold
was doing that and then they were using like a
good job running the ball too. So shout out to Seahawks.
That was a good game. Texans definitely got to do
something shoring up on that line in that run game
and protect the season.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And you know that was that was
That was Monday.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That was how Monday night went. Debo.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So, but I want to talk about something else. I
hold on, hold on, I want to talk about something
else for Monday night. So, as I was watching the game,
I started petting my dog, and my dog started talking
to me and he said hi, and I said, hey,
how you doing And he said I'm doing fine And
I said.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I'm doing fine.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
No se no wasting time, no debo, debo, don't even
do this right now. You're wasting time, Brown You you're
talking about some whole other stuff that we don't even
need to talk about. We gotta talk about the Sunday
games because we missed Monday. You knocked out the Wi
Fi in the whole system, so we weren't able to
talk about the Sunday football games. So that's what we're
about to do right now.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I just got a call from Jeff Bezos. I think
the Internet about to go down again. Devo, stop boy,
do you know what time it is? I think I
think the Browns beat the Dolphins. The Dolphins, Yes, let's
go there, thirty one to six.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I guess I gotta go ahead, Joe, how to go?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
So this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I ain't see the game. So the weather, the weather
was terrible.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
It was terrible for both teams. But Miami is not
used to that. And it was cold.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I don't want to hear Miami, your professionals, you're in NFL.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
It was cold outside, it was raining.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Grow up and a lot of these dudes don't live
in Miami all the time. They played in different places.
They better be able to know how to play in
the wet, in the water, in the know, in the elements.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
What are we talking about here?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Sixty million dollars a year, you better be able to
play at least snow or shine. So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
They're a Florida based team, they're not used to that.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
But go oh gosh, oh gosh, okay, crimea River. So
long story short, Browns beat The Browns beat the Dolphins
thirty one zero.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
How to go they won? How you want to know
how they won? To break let me break down. I didn't.
I didn't watch the game. I'm trying to. I want
to hear it. I'll tell you exactly how they went.
I didn't think it was worth watching two one and
five teams. But go ahead. This is the thing.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So the weather was bad, so it's not even really
a statistical game.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
So it's in favor of the Browns because Miami.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
You just need to make sure these are the games
when you go in. If you leave the stadium with
the win, that's that's all that matters. Like, you got
to go out there with a win. You do the elements,
the weather, you can't really throw the ball as much.
So look, my man, tur twelve for twenty three. Three picks. Okay,
that's tour, Like, what are you talking about? Like, that's

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what our defense did to Tour. We had three interceptions.
Tyson Campbell a pick six. Welcome to the squad. We
had Tour got benched, bro go ahead, then to it
got benched. He was supposed to get bitch. He had
a long day out there messing with the Browns. Hold on, man,
I need to get Miami. Listen, dude, go ahead. Fumbling

(29:27):
the ball. They gave y'all the ball.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Okay, what like, what are we talking about? The Browns
only scored a field goal on the first What time
they scored because Miami got a roughing the pastor penalty? Like,
come on, Miami was helping y'all. And then I didn't
watch the game. I'm just hearing this stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
That's how bad it was. You hear it.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
They called a fake p I on my guy Minka
that took away an interception.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Like that. The next play I believe they went on here.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, he ran a forty eight yard touchdown right after that.
That was not I didn't say that that that play
was that that play was a little Jannkie. I didn't
think that Miami combobulated. The Miami had eleven penalties. They
were hurting themselves. They did eleven penal one hundred and
three yards.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Miami was hurting Cleveland Brown's offense. We had junkins. He
ran for he ran for eighty six yards in three touchdowns.
But I'm telling you this is what it was. The
defense ball man. The defense balled out, and Miami and
special team sold out, and special and special ta first
first drive Browns, punt first drive offense, punt, second drive Browns.

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We ended up getting down there, junkins, getting it done.
We get three, we go up three, you get three
because of rest in the past. I don't even want
to hear that. We get down there, we get three.
I didn't watch go ahead, all right, yeah, yeah you
must have. So then I'm saying to the good thing.
The thing was that we only the rounds offense. We
only had two hundred and six total yards. The Dolphins

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had two hundred and nineteen total yards. We only had
one hundred. No, no, no, not because of that. It's
called it's called three turnovers on three turn three interceptions
and one helping and a fumble.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
That's it's bad weather. They can't they're cold.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So why didn't we turn the ball over? Why didn't
we turn the ball over cold when we playing the
same when't we playing in the same stadium.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
In trash situations?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
And like that's nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, don't want
to hear it. So y'all gets the ball, runs it
all the way down Tyson Campbell again, I love him.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
He's probably gonna be.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
My defense and MVP because his effort he ran down
h and when he tried to score on their drive,
whatever stops them, we get to stop. They end up
getting three. Boom next drive we get some. This is
my other thing, the fake p I like you said,
and then Jumkins gets the forty five. Yes, it was
a fake p as we go up ten three. That's

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when we go up ten three. Okay, I don't that's happened,
but go ahead, it did happen.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Then soon after that ten three we kicked. The pick
comes down there and it's a play, makes him cough
the ball up. How about you protect the ball. We
also had kickoff returns, but we didn't fumble it. That's
on Miami, so boom fumble the ball, give it back
to the Browns. Correct, correct, Browns get the ball again,

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go down.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Wildcat, wildcat.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
So we get the ball to Junkins like, man, you
know what bumping you just take it straight from the center.
Get it tuddy. Now we're up seventeen to three. Miami
gets the ball again, and what they do punt? Yeah, yeah,
damn right. Then the Browns get the ball back. We punt,
Miami gets the ball, Miami gets the ball back.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I could have swore I've seen the six to seventeen
halftime score. I mean, oh no, I'm about to tell you.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
We punt and gets the ball back Campbell because look
that's when they try to score. This is take and
Campbell again. They try to ride the ball down. He
gets a break up in the end zone like I lovely.
He end up getting the field goal. Go in to halftime,
seventeen six. Fresh out of halftime, seventeen six, Miami gets

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the ball.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
What does to a do? Say?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Here here we go, here we go, tip off the
hands my man tyson Campbell again, pick six coming off
the coming off the first player out of halftime. So
now we're up twenty four to six. And this is
why like, it doesn't matter how you do it. This
is the The offensive didn't even have to come back
on the field and we're up twenty four to six.

(33:38):
We were seventeen six. Oh, they thought that was your best player?
Is that is that?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Is that my bad? Is that my fault?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
That he's the quarterback for the Miami Dolphins that they
brought into that stadium to start for that team and
try to leave with a victory.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
So he threw the ball to us and my man
took it to the crib boom. Then they get the
ball back. Think it's sweet, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Welcome to the yoe.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Third and eleven, Sit down, son, so that when the
defense is balling my whole thing. Okay, okay, yeah, sit down,
sit down.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Y'all got the best defense. Yeah, that is true. They
get the ball, they get the ball again.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Let me have my shine, shine, Let me have my shine, okay,
because then they start driving it again.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
And on fourth and eight they try to run.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
They trying to go from a fourth down, throw a
little slant and guess who's in the hole del pit
and cracks that man one yard short turn off on downs,
do y'all feel silly.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yes they do. Browns get the ball back again. We
pun it. No, no, we don't, we don't, we don't.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
We get the ball all right, returns to the Oh
my goodness, no, Browns get the ball. We punt, punt
it down to the one yard line. We didn't do nothing.
Then two, it's in the end zone. Try and get it,
try and.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Figure it out.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
It's a lot of pressure. Oh my goodness, everybody's here.
I have to throw it. Boom Rashee Jenkins almost another
pick six for points with after offense doesn't have to
go out there and do nothing. The defense is bringing
it down to the one yard line, picked by two
to the one.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I ain't gonna lie to you. Without y'all defense, y'all
lucky y'all defense.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
That's like, that's like without my arms. Without my arms,
I wouldn't be able to play basketball. What are you
talking about here? Of course you need the defense to
be nice. You better have a talking to you. I'm
talking to I'm talking to you, de bo. I'm talking
to you that you know why, because you've been real disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
You'd be real disrespectful dude.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah yeah, so no, but I say all of this
to say, the Browns had a really good defensive effort,
and in the offense position, the offense did not.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
No, no defense office ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Your boy had We had twenty six yards total. The
boy didner had two hundred. I had one hundred and
sixteen yards. Yes, yes, I would give too. Was your
best player though, because the defense was cold. I ain't
gonna lie defense nice. I ain't gonna lie defense.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
No not.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm gonna get defense credit because I'm but twelve or
twenty three, four hundred yards three picks, that's two.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, how many of the pictures
real hard to get to.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I'm telling I mean, look, okay, a couple of none.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Of them, none of them was it real athletic players
to get to the wall. It was it anything like,
oh he went and he just made a you know,
he just made a Helifi player and you know.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
No, no, for real, No, honestly, I think my man,
the hardest one, the hardest one was the one that
he caught when the center feel safety was like this
give me this one tour, come on to a get
to me, and then he kind of he gave tried
to look him.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Off and tried to look him off. He didn't try
to look him off. He didn't try to look him off.
He didn't try to look him off. You trying, you see,
Ce Joe.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
That's what I'm saying, man, So bru listen, man, I
just said, I'm gonna get a defense to credit the
defense credit because you got to you gotta do it.
You got to make players because there's been situations where
I see it still is they you done got balls
in their hands, they don't catch them four straight to them.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
I understand that, so you know, but when you got
a head.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Coach like you know Daniels that says you know, you
know he can it is, I don't. I mean when
you look at it, you got to listen to this
guy's interviews, like, it's what do you say after the game?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
He said, a whole lot of nothing deep here.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Though, there's a lot of guys that will have an
important work week because we're not because if you are
negatively affecting the football team, uh routinely, I don't have
a choice. But but you know, to assess the different
player and I have to coach uh a lot better

(37:58):
as well. And yeah, we're gonna find out like who
and what we're made of? Like yeah, yeah, yeah, they
need hard knocks in his meeting rooms. They need to
go to hard hard knocks. You gotta go in Miami.
If he's still there, y'all got to be in Miami.
This will be your highest rated hard knocks ever.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Promise you that when this dude talks, I get confused.
I started feeling like I done lost where I'm at?
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
He starts a sentence, he doesn't finish it. And then
how you go from a uh to we're gonna do
and you didn't say nothing? Yeah that is who is
the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah that that's crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
That's crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You, like Tua said, you got players that don't even
go to players meetings, don't show up or not or
aren't there on time and even don't show up. So
you got no leadership anywhere. The coaches, the players is
disrespectful everywhere. We got to clean out everybody. Coaches gotta go,
the players gotta go. And you just said that you

(39:11):
set him down because you gotta see what other players
can do.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
So you are you saying it's over with for him?
Like what's I think.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
I think he still said this to us. I think
he's still starting them this week coming up.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
How you gonna evaluate other players in the see and
then you do this mm hm, And y'all happy about
being there?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, y'all real happy about being here, de Bo.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
You know, I'm happy when the Browns win. I talked
about the way it happened and how it happened. I'm
not saying that that was an offensive performance for the Ages.
I'm saying when you come out there and it's a rainy,
wet day and that team doesn't do well, and you
just you're making those players, You're making those picks, you're
making those turnofs, you're punching out that ball. Junkins is

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running it through the end zone. They're getting in positions.
The offense was not. I didn't say one thing about
how good the office did besides Junkins running the ball
well because he had three touchdowns and when we needed him,
he did what he had to do.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know, you got your fans. They they calling for
Stefanski to be fired, saying that you know the problem
is him rather than the Browns quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
They said, ship Deshaun Washington.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
He even liked a video uh talking about Stefanski on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Like Joe Man, So, I think that.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
You got a problem with de Sean doing this, like
in the video that's saying that talking, that's talking talking
trash on a.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Fan while you're not playing with the team. I think
I wouldn't want anything that's a distraction. I think it's
a distraction, and I don't like for anything to be
a distraction him to be doing it, especially when you're
not playing right now, especially when you're still healthy enough
to play or is no, no, even when you're not
on the even if you're not healthy enough to play,

(41:08):
that means just that's even more reason to just stay
out the way because you're not going to move. I
was just asking personally, no, no, no, I don't think. I
don't think he's healthy enough to play yet. I think
he's getting getting close to what he's going to be
able to get get out there and start throwing the
ball again. But I don't think when you're not actively
on the team, and even if you are, this is
just more things for This is just more clickbait, more

(41:29):
people to talk about stuff, and more reasons or like
even for you to be brought up if it was me,
I'm Deshaun Watson making two hundred and thirty million. I'm
still making forty million dollars a year, and I haven't
been as productive as I would want to As as
my contract healed, I would just be trying to stay
out the way, getting ready, getting right, and trying to
get back out there talking about the culture, liking tweets

(41:52):
and stuff that's just going to bring end of the day.
If you don't like him, and this is just something
that you've been wanting to say for a while, I mean, it.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Is what it is now.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Media, man, everybody's shooting at him. You you think that
he was the reason why he didn't help you out
in your and and getting getting you better than your
time in Cleveland, go ahead, man, say what you got
to say, because nobody's I'm not in your position.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
That wasn't me. I wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
And if you think that he should be out of
there and he definitely didn't help in your growth, for sure,
that's not That's not my splace to say because I
don't know, but he does. But just knowing that what's
going to bring to your team what's going to bring
questions on the coach and if he doesn't want him
to get out there, if he does it, if he
doesn't want to get fired, that's the perfect way to
do it.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Boom, Yeah like that.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
You know what I'm saying, everybody, It's already trains Goma.
I'm not a big se fancy fan. I don't think
the office has been doing what it needs to do.
I think that that can be a new voice. And
I don't think he has the power to just be
bringing it. I don't think he's playing with kind of
who he can play with. I don't think he has
to control to move all the pieces. And I don't
want to say and I think Andrew Barry and mister
Haslam Andrew Berry and Haslams are definitely I think over

(42:56):
top of what his control is, I don't think he
has control of his players or who he brings in.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Or who he takes out. I definitely don't. Well.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
According to ESPN and Pittsburgh, they said it's two different
sources that say Shador Sanders will play for the Pittsburgh
I'm sorry, we'll play for the Browns, okay. One one
one said Shador will start the last four games of
the season, no matter what, the last four games are
against Bears, Bill's stealers in the Bengals. What do you, uh?

(43:31):
What do you think of this? The other sort said
that shore Ma Shador may take over sooner than nak.
You think this is uh, this is real? You think
it's a possibility. Is it something that you would want
to see? Do you think Dylan needs to be switched
out and then give a give a chance to Shador?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I think Dylan hasn't been And this is just just
my honest opinion. I don't think Dylan has done enough
to like he's he's not helping. He's not hurting the team,
but he's not helping the team. This is between a
game like game management, game changers, a superstar all that,
like a franchise quarterback. He's not giving me franchise quarterback vibes.

(44:11):
And that's just how I feel about it. He's able
to go. He went thirteen for eighteen, one hundred and
sixteen yards, zero interceptions, zero picks. That's another zero picks,
zero interceptions. You're not hurting me, but you're not helping me.
So I don't know how big, how high a ceiling is.
So at the end of the day, he's going to
get a couple more games. In my opinion, I was
still give him because he didn't lose. He won the game.

(44:32):
He didn't do anything bad, like he didn't turn the
ball over the juggins, So to control the game, you
want to get out that with a win. The defense
played well, the special teams played well. We won thirty
one to six. Not like you didn't hurt us, you
didn't help us. So we're not going to just pull
you out of the game, you know what I'm saying.
So I just think we should continue to give him
another like I would say another.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Two three four games, two three games.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
If he starts doing better, we could start winning. He
just I'm not I'm not mad at him, because you
don't want to just be like, no, this is a
good enough I don't say you're not a superstar, you're
not a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Go to the bench.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
I think that you can have see what he can do.
Give him a couple more times. Just open up the playbook.
Let's see Gilbert, I mean, tell him Dylan Gabriel, like,
let's see what we can do. Like let it rip.
You know what I'm saying, like, let's see if again,
I understand you're being comfortable.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
They tried to rip. They gave me fifty something passes
against the stillers.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
But he's thirty but fifty seven passes but like probably seven,
but ten of them that pass ten yards. He's digging
the dunkin, he's dumping the ball.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
That's what you gotta take.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Man, I'm not here none of that. I'm liking. If
you got an outside and there's a man, the man
that we do have a single box and this man.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
They don't win, but he's not the reason they're losing,
but he's also not the reason they're winning. Do you
give Shador that chance? Do you think Shador gives more
of a uh to a defense than he would?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I do? Why is that?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I do think he's going to because he's going to
give us a better He's going to throw the ball
down the field. I think he's going to give us
a chance like anticipating throwing dig balls, throwing a post
on time, throwing fade balls. If he sees that it's
man the man giving his receiver a chance. I like
dealing and then I just don't think he's giving our
receivers a chance as much. You keep dumping the ball
down down, but like, let's throw some things. Let's throw

(46:20):
some posts and some of the things. I see him
open when he does that play, you come up and
you just padding it a little bit too long because
you don't want to throw an interception, so you just
you know what I'm saying, check it down instead of
there's an opportunity, open throw it. Nah, I don't know, Boom,
you know what I'm saying. I want to be able
to be like, no, bump that there is the opportunity,
let me throw that because I know I can make

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a play and help the team out, instead of like,
all right, let me just be cautious, let me be controlled,
let me not fuck it up.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
No, sometimes I need you to let that thing go. Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I believe that if he doesn't start to do things
that actually help them win instead of not doing things
that you know, help them lose, I think you have to.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
You have to, and you're not winning.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
You have to give You have to give Shador a
chance to go out there and see what he can
do with all the weapons, all the starters and give
him that opportunity.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I would say so well, because I mean, where I
think Dylan gets his just due, we're giving him as many.
He got his first start out there in Minnesota, then
get another one, and I think is his third start.
His third start, he has a win. So I'm not
like knocking what he's doing, but I'm like, I'm not
seeing anything that's like you're taking us somewhere, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
And that's not in.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
A bad way, but like when when you look at
the quarterbacks like franchise guys, like all right, bat, Like
I want the ball in his hands, he's gonna be
able to gain Like he's gonna be able to make
a play for us, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
So I just want him to maybe.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
He has it in him, but just kind of like
let it rip sometimes, like instead of doing those jump
offs when you see it, you know what I'm saying,
anticipated throwing the ball like get it out.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah. I think it's a lot of people that want
to want to see, you know, either didn't do better
or a chance for your door to go out there
and and show what he could do. Speaking of that,
Isaiah Rogers had a bad day football on the football
field Sunday. But he got some messages, bro, like these

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people tripping, dude, it's nothing that deserves for dude to
get some messages like can we even show these messages?
Like can we even show these words on the screen? Yeah,
So it's it's some stuff in there, you know, if this,

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if that, I'm trying to slow down on my custin a.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Little bit, you know, to show me to my mom
called me.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, yeah, so you know you talk. You know where
the starts with the letter in. But it's it's not
Nick God, it's the hardy R. You know what I'm saying,
called the man worse worse than Hitler, Like come on,
like that deserves nothing. And then he wanted to try

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and backpedal after you realize he snapped it and and
and sent it over.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Now you want to talk about you Sorry, I know
it was wrong. Nah. Nah, we can't. We can't do
all that. And he's how you ever got anything? I
can tell you right now, bro, how you feel about
that debo?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
No, Bruh, I got stuff like that when I went
to UH, when I went to New England.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Bruh in box crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
In this in that blah blah blah, woo woo, whoop
your mama, your daddy, grandmama. This is supposed to be
from Stellers fans, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
And that's the problem with fans.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Fans are loyal to a actualization, you know what I'm saying.
They're not loyal to the player, and they don't realize
that this.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Is a business.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
And then people just get out of bounds. They like
you out of boonds with just stepping sideways.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
That's not something you would stay to his face, not
even not even close.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
And I know it. And when you go and you
do things like this and you snap that. They had
one time where some dude said something about me and
it was something like Tom Brady like this and that
you're doing this and that, and he was saying, so
I screenshot and I posted it up. Oh he had
to shut his page down and all that. When you

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people do this, like like listen, when you people do this,
like some people actually take time to find out like
who you are, if your page is real.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
And all that, and save this in they fiuse like
I'm one of them.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
People like y'all got you know, dummy pages everybody else
got dummy pages too.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Look at your page and figure out if you're a
real person.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Screenshot already, snapshot save to make sure you're real, and
then put it out there so that you can stand
on what you're talking about. You know what I'm saying,
like this is, this is this is not hard to
get the evidence on you and put it out there
and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
So when you.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Say something, same thing I tell my kids, like, yo,
if you go say something or you go tweet something,
you go write something out. When you write that out
and put it out there, make sure that it's something
that you're okay with the whole world knowing scene and
reacting to. Like you got to put these fans, these
all these people that want to be in your inbox

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and start doing goofy stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Of course, you got to make sure the page is real.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Can't just put it out there because I get a
whole bunch of them from little dummy pages.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
You know, all all that stuff. But this ain't cool.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
It's no part of this that should be in our
society period, especially you know, especially the racist part of it.
But we understand, like you suck and all the other
stuff that I could take that. That's just criticism. You
know what I'm saying, A fan, you know, trader, you know,
you're you're, you're, you're, you're you're a trader to No,

(52:17):
I'm not, I'm I'm a I'm an employee that no
longer they were no longer one of my services, so
I went to somewhere else where they wanted my services.
You know what I'm saying, like, this is this is business.
These are colorble sad. Channel two don't want you in
Channel four. Do you go to Channel four? You know
here Channel two talking about you a trader? No, what

(52:40):
do you what's your what's your take on this man?
What's what's your advice that you would you would give Rogers?

Speaker 3 (52:46):
My advice is I had a lot of the same stuff,
like you said, de Bo when we played for the
Browns and people would just talk crazy when you would lose,
I would say, sometimes you don't want to You don't
want to let people like some of the stuff people say.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
It's easy to ignore it.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
You don't want like people to like rock with your
emotions at the end of the day, because at the
end of the day, these people are on Instagram, Twitter,
they're watching you play a sport and the game that
we love. When I first got into it, I would
get my feelings and people would talk, you know what
I'm saying about you because you're trying to do a
good job. You don't like not no, not used to
people really talking about you like that. I always say,

(53:22):
ignore them, And then at the same time, like these
dudes are like like a lot of them just want
your attention. Because the same way when when you would
snap back and do like, oh.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
My god, and believe it's you, like you.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Really roll back to me, I'm like, you had me
really in my feelings, like really mad, you know what
I'm saying, and you just was just talking. Because like
the access that they're able to have to professional athletes,
I don't think sometimes you can. It's good because you
can give them an insight and like like let them
know you're a real person. But at the same time,
they feel like they can touch you, like they can
make you feel some type of way. So I'm like,

(53:53):
don't not not literally touch you, but like you can
read up. You're gonna see what they're saying. So I'm like,
with that, you don't want to give them a lot
of it is like you know what's up, you know
what's going on. So sometimes with me, I wouldn't even
really look at the stuff because it's like if they
tell you good things, is that is that making you happy?

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Like no letting.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
People control you know what I'm saying, Like how your
mood is because of what people are saying on your stuff.
So I kind of hear just awesome, Like I don't
know these people, you know what I'm saying. So I
just kind of really didn't let it, didn't try to
not let it hit.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Me as much.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, I don't. I like, I like to look at
it because I need the negative stuff. That's how I'm over.
I want to see all the negative stuff. But when
you when you step over that, you step over that boundary.
You know what I'm saying, a personal like racial insaut
that's real hate of really burning my jersey and all that,

(54:45):
go ahead, burn it because you ended up probably buying
another one. I came back in fourteen anyway, you know,
I mean when I came back after after you know
they do the jersey cell anyway, so I ain't tripping.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
You went and got another one who cames I don't
you know, But.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Like, like I said, thirteen even thirteen when I went
to Cincinnati, you know, but when I went to New England, dude,
they lost their mind. And that's something else I'm telling dudes, like,
don't even get his dude of response. Like he's trying
to get a response from you, bro, Like that's what
he wants to be able to know that the message
that he sent got to you and you was mad
enough to respond back. And I'm like, yo, you can't

(55:23):
respond back to this because if you respond back and
you shoot at him and you say something crazy, he's
going to repost what you said to him, You're going
to get fined and nothing's going to happen to him.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Like, don't even give them it, Like who cares? Like
use that as motivation fuel for your fire.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Like I don't I feel in though, because you know
how that is. But like you said, to people, be weird.
Those people just be straight weird those right righting this
like mean things to people just trying to get a reaction, Right.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
You're trying to get a reaction.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
You try to be seeing you want you you know,
you want you want to be heard everybody. That's why
everybody got social media everybody want to be heard, you know.
So Sunday we about to play the Packers. Bro right,
Oh hey rod yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah for
show for show for show.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
But hey hey we we again. Okay, yeah, But Sunday's
game between the Packers and Stellers isn't about Aaron Rodgers,
Matt Lafuur said.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
He said, we're playing the Pittsburgh Stellers who happened to
have Aaron Rodgers. It's as simple as that. That is
for you guys to talk about. Granted, I mean, we've
got a lot of love respect for Aaron what he's
done here. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer and
I know and I know like our past together we

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had a lot of great moments. But this game is
not about that. What uh what you what you put
on that, Joe, Joe? What you You think he's just
giving lip service?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
You think he's just saying the right thing? Psychology, you know?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, man, I think he's just being a smart like
just a good coach, you know, not trying to make
anything extra over what it is. He knows him and Aaron, right,
they had a relationship. He just don't want to bring
anything up extra I think Aaron Rodgers just personally though
he definitely wants to be Aaron Rodgers. He definitely thinks
that he wants to make sure like they.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Made the right decision. It is.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
It is like that you could still have Aaron Rodgers
and you don't. He's going against you. So it's kind
of like, so.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
What do you think the bigger statement, bigger statement win
would be like Aaron Rodgers taking down his former team
or Jeorde Love out playing the old man.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
See that's what I'm saying. I think a rod the
better one would be the for us, for us, still
for for we, for we, it's gonna be a Rod
outplaying a Rod outplayed Jordan Love Packers made the wrong
decision moving on.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
That's would be the bigger joint. I think I don't
care about him out playing him. He could outplay him
and we could still lose.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Aaron winning and taking down his former team is the
biggest statement in me, Like, yeah, I don't if Aaron
go out there and do four, you know, four five touchdowns,
four hundred yards whatever it may be, and the defense
don't do nothing and we lose that game, Like don't know,

(58:36):
at least me personally, I don't care how big my
numbers is. If we lose the game, they wouldn't big
enough for me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
So I asked you so you wouldn't be mad if
he did a thirteen for eighteen, one hundred and sixteen yards,
zero touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
And we win and you win. Yes, I ain't mad.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Listen to you, Hey, Deepot, We're not gonna apologize for winning, Depot.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
That's what we're not gonna do. We're not gonna apologize
for Hey, the Browns didn't for beat Miami. So what
we look like, well we're not going to do, Debo
is apologize for winning.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Well, we're not gonna do it. Apologize for winning.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
And a hey hey oh man, okay, no for show.
I'm with you, Depo. I am with you one hundred percent.
The bigger thing is with the Stealers. We know he
could throw a four tarn. We know he could throw
He's not He's Aaron Rodgers. But what we want to
do is leader stayed in with a dove. So I'm

(59:45):
a thousand percent with you. And now where the biggest
statement is the Steelers beat the Packers, Aaron Rodgers taking
down his former squad.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yes speaking, the former former squad, Justin Fields got benched
over there in New York Man.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
They just gave him a two year for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
A million deal, thirty guaranteed, and it looks like they
only needed six and a half games to realize he
ain't the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Is it time?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Do you think that you think it's time for them
to give up get it moving? It looks like they
done did it lie They're going to set him down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
All I know is Justin Fields.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
When I watched that last game they just had in London,
that was one of the worst offensive performances I've seen
in a long time. And I know he's an athlete.
I love Justin Fields as a person, but I don't
know what's going on. Their offense probably had less than
one hundred yards, Like, it just doesn't look good. He's
not throwing the ball on time, he's making it's taking

(01:00:40):
them a while to make some decisions and they're just
not just not looking good. You can't keep doing the
same thing that defense deserves to win a couple of
these games. Their defense has been playing great, you know
what I'm saying, Like it's not their fault. You need
something from your offense, and Justin Fields hasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Been able to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I ain't any harm to say it, but like when
you're just watching the tape, I like you, I like
them as a person, like them as all that, but
he's not getting the job done.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
And this is a this is a whatfer you done
for me lately? Business?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
And he hasn't done anything for them lately. So I
don't think that he's the answer. And I'm sorrying away
with no matter what, he gonna get that. But at
the same time, like you're gonna keep on you you're
gonna lose on the shield of you paid them thirty
So we're gonna go ahead and just walk it down
or are you gonna try to figure out something else
because you know thirty is thirty but we got other teams.

(01:01:30):
The Brownie's got one hundred and thirty one still left
it they trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
So it can be done. It can be done. You
can't move on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
It's gonna hurt. You're gonna have to bite that pill
that thirty ms. But if you if you're really trying
to win right now, it doesn't look like Fiels is
doing on the offensive side.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
And I and it pains me to say that, Yeah,
I think I think this, I think this, this, this
might be it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
They go go on ahead and they'll keep them because
they got the guaranteed money in and they go try
and get that. I mean they right now they fight
for a first pick anyway, so that they got an
opportunity to go out there and hopefully try and find
somebody that they see a little bit more potentially. Jumping
back to Sunday, the Rams. Dude, they flew into the

(01:02:12):
international game the day before and immediately headed back out
and they went on ahead and whooped them was thirty
five to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
It worked out. What do you So, here's my take
on this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
So I don't like going in early to a game,
especially when you got like an international game or something
like this. What turns into is you have four or
five days there, so now you got all your family,
your friends, you got all this extra stuff going on
here and there, and they thinking they on vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
At this ain't a vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm here to work. I'm here to get a job done.
But they're like vacation. So they're planning to do this,
do that, tho all this other stuff. The guys from
doing this and that, not to mention like the staff.
So now you got all these families over here. Now
the staff that usually helps you is now trying to
help the families and all that along with their other

(01:03:13):
responsibilities and duties. I like the idea of going in
and out, getting the job done and going home. I
think that's the best way to do it me personally,
because now I don't add all those other factors into
it where it then turned into a mini vacation for
everybody else, And now you're being the person to have

(01:03:33):
to drag along and do all this other stuff along
with practice, and the focus is not the focus, which
is winning a game, Like what do you think you
think this could be the next wave since they just
seen the Rams do it and do it conventionally.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Debo, I'm with you one thousand percent. My thing is
on those games. On those business trips when we're going
to London, we're not going to see London.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I can go doing the off season, we can go
take a trips that hotel. We can literally have a
good time. These trips are business trips, Like I'm really
trying to get there, get my body right, watch tape.
When I get there for a long period of time,
I start getting nervous and like antsy because it's like,
we're here to do a job. The game is in
four days. There's nothing I'm going to be able to do,
Like I want to get practiced when I have my

(01:04:18):
schedule right, the family and friends on a trip we overseas,
like we about to go see the louver, We about
to go see all the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Stuff that they got to offer. I'm good on that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
We can go there during the off season and we
can go see everything you want to see. But these
four days like that, and that's crazy getting it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I don't even need to have to worry about bringing
you here. If I'm in and out in you know,
a thirty six hour timeframe, in and out, there's no
discussion on hey, let's do this, Like no, it's no,
I'm going to work.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I'm going to be right back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yes, I'm going to be right back, dude, Like I'm
going to work. Hey man, we got a few other
things you want to catch up on if you want
to stick here. Since we miss you yesterday with you
you good see yep, yeah, you know I tried to.
I didn't try I'm sorry, Jeff Bezos did that messes up?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Hell? That was all you, brother, That wasn't me. Bro.
I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I'm listen, but you let me get my browns talking,
so I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
I love Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Like I said, y'all got a good defense over there, man, y'all,
y'all got a good y'all got a good defense over there.
And if it, if it wasn't for y'all defense, y'all
would be oh and seven instead of wi is two
and five.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Like, if it wasn't for y'all defense, that is a
fifty five. That is a fifty fac Hey, Joe yo,
somebody got five, Yes he did?

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Who got fired? Joe Man?

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Billy Napier, man coach for the Gators. Man bought my
dog out twenty They gotta get my man twenty million,
and they gotta give me ten of it and in
the next thirty days.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
M m yep, yep, yep. We're a man. What's Florida?
What Florida go do? From here? Man? Where they go?
What's going down? You know what I'm saying, Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
We need a great, great coach and you know who
I'm thinking that we need to go get. He's in
that CEC where I'm not mad at it because I'm
loving his recruiting style. But first of all, let me
talk about our interim coach, interim coach that we have
right now. Billy Gonzalez. He was my recruiting coordinator. He
recruited me to come to Florida. He was a wide
receiver coach there during the National Billy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
State think coach, the Billy G coach. You can't state.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I don't know if he coaching can't stay I don't think.
I think he coached receivers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
They can't when I was up there, Hold up, now
we got we gotta check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I only know Billy G when he was in at Florida,
though he recruited me, came to my came to my
state championship game my senior year in Maryland at Baltimore
Ravens Stadium. Great dude, great coach. So he's the interim
coach right now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Loving him. He's a recruit guy. That's what we need
to get back to to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
He recruited me and he's great at recruits, and that's
why they when we got rid of Napier and moved him. Man,
so we can keep the ruf. So everybody's good. Hey, yeah,
can he recruit in this era? No, that's why I'm
that's what That's why I'm bringing you to where he's here.
But I'm telling you of the other that if we
the head coach, I want I want him to be
that probably like the offensive coordinator. Maybe we're still receivers

(01:07:24):
called offensive coordinator, but I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
He coaches the wide receivers and running back. Dude for
us at Kent from the two thousand and one. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
That's better. He was a receiver coach of Florida. Yeah,
I knew. I knew that name. Man, I'm like, dude,
he was on my staff when I when I played
the Kent. See. So we gotta go to a Gator game.
Go see coach G. We got we got Yeah, we're
gonna have to. Yeah, we check it out for sure,
Coach Coach G. I love coaching.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
I think he's gonna be great, But I would want
with the way it's going now, I need Florida to
get a real a guy and I'm gonna throw it
out in the bucket.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Mm hmm. I want us to get Lang Kim.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
I think if we got Lane Kiffin, the energy he's bringing,
the vibes he's bringing, and with the recruits, I think
he because the way he's doing all miss we can
have Florida back on point. I think he would do it.
I think he could do it. I'm gonna just put YEP,
that's what you want.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
That's what I want. I want Lane kiffn What what about?
What about? What about Billy G? If Billy G.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
I'm just saying I would if Billy I'm with Lane
or Billy G. I'm not mad at I love Billy
G as the head coach right now. Okay, but what
if you get Lane Kiffin but you lose Billy G.
You say he's great for recruiting. I know, I think
with this what I'm saying he was recruiting that was
that was back in the day he bo. I mean,
I hope he's I know, you know, he probably still
got some some some some some stuff that he knows,

(01:08:44):
but I don't know. He recruited me back and was
that oh seven mm hmm. Yeah, So the times have changed.
So that's what I'm saying, that we could just get
I love Billy, Billy could do it. Billy's Billy. He
was there doing the Golden years. He's seen us when
what we needed when that. He's with national championships at Florida.

(01:09:04):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
So he's been at Florida since since since you were there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
He left, he left, he came back, came back. He
came back with coach Dan Mullen. Okay, yes, he came
back with Muller.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Okay, all right. Who are your player of the week? Dude?
Who you got who you got for for the defensive
player of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Tyson Campbell, the new corner for the Browns with his
pick six is pb u's his rundown of the the
of a chan Chan about four three. He walked him
down for preventing the touchdown. So we're gonna go with him.
He's fresh off the boat right over there playing man

(01:09:45):
the man strapping picked six and stand up, Stand up,
Tyson Campbell?

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Stand up? Can you ask me? Who minds? What the debo?
Who do you have? Thank you? Thank you, thank you
very much. Yeah. Yeah, who's your defensive player? Deepo? Other week?
I hate, I hate, I hate. I gotta do this.
You gotta get credit with credit, dude, Yes you do.

(01:10:14):
We got the same one, bro. Yeah, you watched the game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Hey you see, Hey, we're gonna see what he do
against them Patriots though, we're gonna see.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I'm here no England, now, I don't forget that. Yes, sir,
we're gonna see. Hey, tour man, I probably could have
did that against Tour.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Just put at where I'm at right now today, at
forty seven years old.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I'm just saying, all right, we're gonna see, we gonna see.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I ain't never played I ain't never played dB in
my life, but the way that went, I think I
could have did. But look here, man, we want to
thank y'all for joining us this episode of Debo and Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
We let Joe go ahead and off his brown stuff. Man, Hey,
big ups, I ain't gonna lie. I had a brown
fit defense he had a fit on yesterday. You know
it's so crazy. I ended up accidentally wearing a like,
like like a chocolate brown shirt yesterday too, because I
thought it was black, but it wasn't. Hey, please make
sure you guys like you don't want to miss nothing.

(01:11:21):
We'll be back here. Added on Friday, Joe what you
got my brother Debo. We will be back on Friday.
I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
I appreciate you for giving the Browns a little bit
of love. I appreciate that, I for the defensive Player
of the week that you have and my good man,
I will see you on Friday and we out

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