Deebo & Joe - REACTION to TNF: Chargers beat Vikings, Rodgers RETIRING in GB?! NBA Gambling SCANDAL

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Thursday Night Football where Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers defeated Carson Wentz and the Minnesota Vikings. Later, they react to Pittsburgh Steelers QB Aaron Rodgers comments on retirement, the latest updates in the FBI's arrest of NBA Hall of Famer Chauncy Billups, Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier in connection to the NBA gambling scandal, and much more!

Timeline:
00:00 - Intro
4:00 - Chargers beat Vikings
20:25 - Steelers vs Packers
27:30 - Browns vs Pats Preview
33:50 - Ravens in Shambles
38:40 - Brandon Graham Un-Retires
42:55 - Goodell Says AI to help Refs
47:00 - NBA Gambling Scandal 
54:40 - Jared Shaw faces death penalty for edible in Indonesia

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Debo and Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys
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you're doing today, Joe, I'm doing good, Debo. Always good
to have you on set with me. Brother, having a
good show. How you doing, I'm doing real good man.

(00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
And Joe so along and that's it, and we just
go pick worry do it. Whoever worried, go worry. I
like it.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Go do I like that given given spirit, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, you got to give a little something back, man,
like you know Mike hate and giving nothing back. It
was it was thirty seven to ten, So we're gon
we're gonna hop right into that too. Yeah, definitely. I
mean I thought it was gonna be some trouble. You know,
I ain't gonna lie to you from the first place.
When he threw that little swing pass behind and running back,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
The issue. You know when it when it comes down
to it, and then you know, the third down he
threw the rock.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
He got lucky that wasn't nobody around, dude, he was
able to catch that one. But dude, he was you know,
he was literally pressured all night. They end up, you know,
punting the rock and l a. They get up out
there and your boy, Isaiah Rogers, did you what did
you think about that debo? Did you think it was

(02:08):
did you think it was six? I thought it was
a pick six. But when you look at it and
they do the review and you start slowing that thing
down seeing its room for that, I think if he
goes and just keeps both hands under it do his
role instead of trying to throw that hand out, so
he could put the other one down and take off.
I think I think they give it to him, but

(02:30):
they don't, you know what I'm saying out there.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I was looking at that to DBO, I feel you
because it looked like he picked the ball. But you know,
just when you start doing real for real, super slow motion,
sometimes the ball touches the ball. You don't know if
he had he can have control of it like fully
with a piece of the ball touching the ground. So
there's room for like, there's room for question.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, no question, because when it comes down to it,
you don't You don't take your other hand off the
ball unless you sure you got it gripped in that
one because he's trying to get up and get.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Trying to get him go, He's trying to move. He's
just athletic. He's like, I got the ball, So now
I'm just whatever I gotta do to get up and
get out of here as fast as possible. That's what
I'm trying to do.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I think if he, like I said, if he
just kept both hands there and rolled that thing out.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
They'd have been able to see even though it moved.
I had hands on it. Then, you know he would
have been able to take that and go.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Instead, it turns around into a fourteen play drive almost
eighty five yards sposed to eight minutes off the clock,
and they next four seven.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, and that and that was complete.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
It could have been like the game could have like
you said, the game could have been flipped. It could
have been picked six. But then they took its seven
minute drive. Herbert using his legs looking athletic from that
one errand throw.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
No other throws were off target after that play, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, and then they come right back out. You know,
they do it three out. I think he's sacked on
consecutive down. No, was pressured on the second, and then
he got sacked on the third. They kicked, you know,
they gotta punt the ball again. He was running for
his life, debo, dude, all night, all night, LA come
back out there, dude. Eight plays that's all they needed

(04:14):
to cover the hot what sixty yards? Another touchdowns? It's
fourteen nothing, dude. I'm like this this might get real ugly,
you know what I'm saying. One of those ugly games,
but they end up getting lucky, you know what I'm saying.
The next possession, he should have been picked on that second, yes,
buddy wasn't. So then you know, scoring the field goal,

(04:37):
you know it's three, it's three and fourteen. Again, they
cannot stop La. Only thing he stopped the La was La.
They missed the field goal, mister field goal. They missed
the field goal, and they weren't even able to you know,
capitalize on that. They end up hitting a hot three
and out and then La comes right back in there,
and Herbert and that.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
But that's that's when what's the name started getting hurt
when wins like he picked.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
This, he was already hurt.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's why I was.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
He was looking he was looking hurt the whole game. Yeah,
but that's why I was worried.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
As soon as I saw the whole little brace on
that arm over there and he threw the swing pass
and it was behind him, I'm like, man, this is
you ain't been playing well the last two games anyway,
well really last three, three out of four games, he
ain't been playing too well. So I'm like, yeah, this this, this,
this can get real ugly. And you know, Herbert goes
out there. That next drive, he goes five or six

(05:35):
I think it was like sixty sixty five yards something
like that. He had another like scramble for like then
twenty five or something like that in between two different scrambles,
and they end up going ninety four yards dude, in
just over three minutes.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Bro Yes, nine plays and McConkie was getting open.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
On the third down and then he hit my man
with just a straight fade ball up the sideline.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Like mconkie was balling and Herbert was using his legs
on that drive that they just walked the ball ninety
four yards, nine plays down the field.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
That drive was impressive for sure. Twenty one twenty one
three halftime, right, yep? I think it's twenty one three halftime.
LA gets the kickoff, right, they know Minnesota gets it
and LA ends up getting a landy's on penalty.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
So that gave yeah to get the kicker. He don't.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
He doesn't shank the joint. He shanked the thank I
think I could have got I think I could have
got that better than that. No, but once you know
he was pressured all night, dude, I think he got
sacked on first and second down.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think that was the time.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yep, he's in for a field goal off Hick Jefferson.
He ended up making a good pass that got Jefferson
down there, and then the field goal kicker came up
and then this field goal kicker duft that came up
about two yards short of the field.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Goal was kicked half the ground up.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
No, he kicked behind the ball. Yeah, he kicked half
the ground or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
One. No, he definitely he chunked it. He did a
golf trunk. Ruh, I take it back. That was That
was the end of the first half. Yeah, that was
the end of the first half.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But it was yeah, it was. It was three to
twenty one. Same thing.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, and then the second half started off and that's
when with the down said soon man, but down.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
It started and started doing his thing.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
He was running hard, patient, like hitting the hole. He
wanted them little bowling ball running back short dudes holding
that pill.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, they ended up getting a field goal on that
on that first one.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah. But Minnesota they said, uh they got they got
kind of lucky tip pick. Yeah they no, I'm talking
about for they had a fumble, but they were able to.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, they were able to recover.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
They punted it off and then that was when immediately
after after that, Hubert he got the tip past. They
got the interception, and you know again Minnesota, they kick
a was it a field goal? No, I think it
was l A.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
L A goals and uh they kicked the field goal,
that's what it was. And they had like they had
extra dudes on the field.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, yeah, six that they had scored three to make
it six, they had twelve men on the field.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
They gave him an extra five yards.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes, so they took the field goal off and they
and then they got the they went forward on fourth
and nine. Yeah, then they got the the legal contact.
They gave him a first down. Yes, yeah, there's like
they was deep.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
They beat him up.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
They was making good plays, had it all the way down.
They sack them fourth to nine, I legal contact, got
the ball on the one.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Score they touchdown. It's ten to twenty four. You think
it maybe, I mean I don't know, I'm thinking possibly,
But the defense ain't really doing nothing. And but bal
Va he got that boy val very possession. They gave
a boy the ball for five carriers. He went fifty yards.
Bro that's when he took over the game.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Took over the game. Bro over again to run the ball.
And you can't stop himrom running. That's the that's dude,
that is infuriating.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
He was getting They got a holding penalty, took it,
brought him back five and without didn't It didn't matter,
It didn't matter, It didn't It didn't matter, dude, twelve
plays what seventy five seventy three yards something like that,
thirty one to ten?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
And what and what? And what your boy going through?
What your boy going through with.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's what he did.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
This But this is what I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
By this time, my man was battered, beaten and bruised. Brother,
he was getting did so. Yeah, he definitely threw the
pick over. He tried to throw it over, laid Jefferson,
Jefferson running through it, letting him too far.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Just a bad pass pick yep. And then and then
and then the Chargers gave the ball back to more
of a down. No question, We're able to score work, yeah,
but off about almost what.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
At the end of it, they ended up burning off
close to what was it five five minutes or so
on that on that on that next drive, they got
a field goal. It was thirty four to ten. Ye,
bill go thirty four to ten. Got the ball back.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
But it's only seven minutes left. I think, just over
under seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Turn off on downs.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, the game is, the game is really over.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But they look after that part d bo Yes, go ahead,
go ahead, go ahead many. Yeah, they went on ahead
and added a little bit more, you know, on top
of it, put a cherry on top and kicked another
field goal on him to make it thirty seventeen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And then they took Wentz out Yeah yeah, man. And
then then the part that kind of you knew it
was over. They didn't even want to get They didn't
even want to get a field goal or nothing. They
just let the clock run out. Yeah yeah. I was like, dang,
they just that was crazy over man, they got some issues.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
They offense did absolutely terrible, man, one hundred and sixty
four total yards. They only had thirty four rushing. Wentz
went fifteen for twenty what went yeah, fifteen for twenty seven,
one hundred and forty four yards. He had a touchdown,
but you know he also had an interception and they
sacked hm what five six times? Yeah? Man, he was

(11:55):
pressured all night, dude, Like I didn't see him, you know,
really have a that was uh with any extra time
or significant time to be able to you know, get
the ball to where he wanted to go on on
top of you know, him already being hurt. I think
I would have I would have took a chance with
the guy behind him. And then the defense like that

(12:15):
is not Minnesota defense. Like I haven't seen him doing
like that bad that consistently for like the whole game.
I haven't seen that at all, y'all. Let Herbert, you know,
he didn't really what he did what he had to do.
It was only eighteen to twenty five, twenty five, but
it was three tuddies, yes, and then he killed you

(12:38):
with the scrambling though rambling he had seven for sixty two.
Like he just killed you with the scrambling at the
opportunity after opportune times when guys weren't open, he was.
He was just making it and v Dalla said, soon, man,
the dallasad soon. Here's the crazy thing, bruh. Like he
wasn't really doing that much in the first half. I

(12:59):
think he was eleven for twenty four Russian then, but
by the end of the game, my guy was twenty
three for one seventeen. Because it's not the numbers you
used to see in Minnesota. Give up on Russian na period. Hey,
defense altogether, dude, like they're there. I don't know what
they gotta do to fix this, but I mean, I

(13:20):
know what you need to do. You gotta you gotta
protect the quarterback first and then get you, you know,
get you a quarterback that can actually do everything that's necessary.
Right now, he's not looking like he can do everything
that's necessary. I mean, I guess that's the reason. He'd
been to what sixteens in six years, So.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
It was, it was it was bad debo on for
the Viking's perspective because I was looking at it and
it was like, one thing he was hurt. The first
pass of the game, like you said, he threw behind
my man, So I'm like, oh my, it's already looking
crazy like that. You can't even throw the swing pass.
It looks already off. So that that one thing he
was under pressure getting punished, like getting hit and his

(14:00):
arm was hurting. His to look like his ribs was hurting.
By the end of the game, my man was crying
out there and they didn't have.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Dude, he was.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Crying on the sideline crying. I'm like, he was crying, Debo.
I felt bad for him. I was like, oh my goodness, man,
this is a different thing between player hurt and being injured.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I was like, that's an injured man out there. Get
him out. He's gonna he's gonna hurt hisself. Boy injured
and hurt injured and her you playing injured and Herd
your arm.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Your arm is injured, your soul is hurt, your ribs
are hurt.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know what I'm saying. But it was just they
didn't have no running game. He didn't have any time,
and it just was like they only had three first
downs in like the first half, and then going against
on the other side, your defense can't stop nobody. They
had twenty four first downs. He's running the ball by
that hour.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
They even once, they didn't punt the whole game, Debo,
They didn't put one time, you know what I'm saying.
So they were just continuing the first two touchdown touchdown
field goals.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
They were doing what they wanted.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Justin Herbert, I would say, looked amazing. He looked athletic,
He looked like being.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Able to bounce back.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Y'all need after what the Indianapolis coach did to him
over there, Like that's that's.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Something.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yes, that's definitely how you answered that. Definitely how you
ask at confidence back. Okay, we had an off game,
you know what I'm saying, or we had you know,
like it lets you know, like we aren't what we
showed last week.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
And that's the opportunity you get, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
When it's a Thursday game, you like, especially if you
lose on Sunday, You're like, yeah, I want to get
back out here and get this off me.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yah, got yes off me for sure, And they did.
They did that.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
They did that exactly right. Just being able to run
the ball and he was giving it to everybody. The
rookie tight end Keenan Allen, he was throwing it around
to everybody was getting a piece and if he was
handed off, they.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Would running play action.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
If people man the man coverage that back his turn,
I'm going to run and get these first downs like
four carries forty four yards. He was just being very smart.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
He's not a couple of times I don't I don't
want him Josh Allen taking unnecessary hits, like when he's
getting to the joint, like trying too.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I mean, not Josh Allen, my bad, just justin Herbert.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I don't want him taking unnecessary hits.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's my only thing. When he's running a little bit,
get down, slide. We need you for the long haul.
But he was definitely using his legs good. He was
the leading rusher until Fordal started giving you totes, and
he was the second half. He was running through holes.
He wasn't getting touched until he got into the secondary.
So they looked like a good team. The Vikings just
looked like they couldn't stop a nosebleed. And it didn't help.

(16:35):
On the offensive side. They couldn't get nothing going. Carson
Wentz was getting smacked crazily. I felt bad for the
man because, like I said, literally your son saw it.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I saw it. He was on the sideline literally in tears.
Like I tried. He wasn't crying, you know, I tried to.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I tried to say, he wasn't crying, he was just upset,
Like you know, that's just frustrating face.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Your son saw I saw it. I think it was
actually had to be physical tear. I can't I can't.
I can't cry on the sideline. I'm not talking about
that was that you? That wasn't on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Listen, man, it don't matter even in when when, when
I've lost super Bowls.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
But I'm not crying.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm gonna go to the shower when I get to
the hotel and I'm crying there by myself, And ain't
nobody gonna know him crying.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
See there you go, Debo, you see.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
You are real. Look I cried, I might cry, I
might cry, I might cry.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I'm gonna cry. I can't.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I can't give you the satisfaction of seeing that live.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then I can't.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I can't give you, especially the football game. No, I
can't give you that.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I think back in the day, maybe I definitely would
have cried, knowing I wouldn't have been a meme.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Now definitely like oh as soon as I cry, I
know it's a rap.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Me.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
He was looking crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, they got it.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
They got to figure out what they go do over there.
But got too.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
We got a game Sunday night. Aaron said, this is
not a revenge game for him. He actually said, you
know that he will end his career in Green Bay.
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Do you you think this is a revenge game for
him or is given lip service? I think and it's
hard of hearts.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
At the end of the day, being a competitor, being
in a place for eighteen years, you want to beat
where you left. You want they didn't want you as much.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You want them to think like that you weren't worth it,
so as not getting clickbait, not trying to make anything
bigger of it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
In the inside, as a man, I think that he
feels some.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Type of way you can't spend I mean, as me,
I know I would spending eighteen years in an organization
and not leaving the way that you thought that you would,
that you would want to going against them. You would
want to show them that what they're missing out on,
or at least not. You don't want to lose, you
know what I'm saying. So I think it gives you
a little bit more motivation. But it's not like it's

(19:01):
Aaron Rodgers versus them. I love the way he goes
about it, not saying like no, no, they didn't want me.
So but I think at the.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Inside, as a competitor, he definitely wants to beat them,
Like obviously he wants he wants to win.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm not. I haven't talked to Aaron. I don't. I
haven't spoken to him bout this.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And believe, in my heart of hearts, I think he
one hundred and fifty thousand percent want to beat the dogs,
not out of them boys.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like he wants to go out there, he.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Wants to win, and he wants to outperform the other
quarterback in numbers and in yards, touchdowns, whatever that is.
One hundred percent, he wants to do all of that
now it in his career. Like everything he said was like,
you know, the organization itself, yes, love for the organization,

(19:50):
love it. But the guys that's there, the coaches that
actually or the GM that got you up out of
there or whatever that may be. You you you feel
in some kind of way, like I'm gonna tell you
right now, when I went to New England, brouh and
we had that opportunity to play the Steelers and all
they had to do was beat Jacksonville, and they let

(20:11):
Jacksonville go out there and run through them and get stumped.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I was there, I was on the defensive side. I
was so upset.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I was so upset, dude, because I was going to
get me some more of that Ben Roethlisberger like I got.
Oh no, no, like I got in college when I
sacked them five times. Then at the end of my
senior year for the last guy. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
You camera went off, debo, I camera went out.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Hold on, but no, trust me and believe Yeah, real talk,
like you want to beat every team in the NFL
that you didn't even play for. We want to beat
the Ravens. We want to dog them, an organization that
you literally played for. You know people there, you know,
you know them, you know them personally, like you they
you've kicked it before. Not like it's a like why

(21:00):
wouldn't you want you don't you want to go there
and be like, oh, yeah, this is a game. We're
willing to be the best that we can be. We
think that we're the best, and we're coming to perform that.
Y'all didn't think I was good enough to be there anymore.
I want all smoked.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I want to win.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I want to get y'all out the way, like I
want to not not embarshop, but like I want y'all
to see like y'all didn't think I was good enough.
I know it's about y'all made the wrong decision. Y'all
made nor I mean at some point in time, everybody
know they got to go.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Respectfully to him, Yeah, him knowing out there eighteen years there,
he's like, I'm going to retire there like that.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
That is kind of like that's my spot. There's no
stuff there like being able to know he knows what
it is I spent. I won a super Bowl there.
That's I spent eighteen years my career. I'm my Hall
of Fame, like they know me, Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay.
But like I'm still I'm playing now for the Steelers
and I'm trying to go do what I gotta do.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Oh yeah, no question.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
But I'm gonna tell you this again, it's still some
extra there if the opportunity. It's like I had a
crystal ball and they said, hey, you could lose to
a team, or you could lose to B team. B
team is the one that you played for forever and
they got rid of you. A team is just the
organization A team. I'm no, no, no, no, I'm trying

(22:17):
to beat B I'm trying to beat the stink out
of B Team. No, no said, I thought you said
if you was going to lose? No if Oh yeah, yeah, sorry,
I'm tripping. If I'm a lose, I'm a lose. I'm
not trying to lose to B I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Not trying to lose to the people that already that
let me get out of play.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
No, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
If it's I don't care. If it's one game, like
I want that one game, I'll listen. I'll give up
two for the one. Trust depending on the situation. You
know what I'm saying, give up two for one is crazy?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know what I'm saying It really it really depends
on the situation.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Man.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh yeah, listen, don't forget.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
We are playing the Green Bay Packers, and all these
people out here who want to listen, all these people
out here who want to say that Stillers ain't playing nobody.
We're about to play somebody, Green Bay Packs. We're about
to play a formidable opponent. That way, once we win,

(23:18):
nobody can say anything. And for that reason, it's why
Shoin myself are giving away two tickets to two different
for two different people. So it's a total of four
tickets and matter of fact, the winner will be announced tomorrow.
On I g okay, on I g okay.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
We keep both. We're gonna keep you. We're gonna keep
you waiting a little bit longer, just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
It's worth the wait. Sunday Night, Pittsburgh, de Bo, what
you unanimous victory? I know, I know how I think
this first defense, Defense gonna do defense, go do their thing,
and Aaron will go out there and go, Aaron, You're

(24:09):
gonna go crazy, Go Aaron, respectial. I ain't gonna lie
to you. I'm a little maybe concerned, okay about persons
over there because last week he did kind of go crazy.
M hm, he definitely did, so I'm hoping he got

(24:33):
that out the way. You're gonna see like going you
don't feel like going crazy?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Nomore. I think it's gonna be a real I can't wait.
I can't wait what you're saying it like that for
you can't what what you mean? You can't wait?

Speaker 3 (24:46):
I can't wait for the stillers to show that they
I can't wait for the still for us.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
To show to be the real deal. I'm rocket, okay,
I'm rocking I'm just I'm just.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
You know, my temperature to see what because it kind
of you know, you know, if sometimes like who the
Browns playing?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Let me let me check you tow who the Browns playing?
Brown's playing the Patriots. They're playing the Patriots. Where they're at?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I think they're in New England.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
They're in New England. What do you see? Let me
see your eyes, Joe. What do you see here? Joe? Who?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
What do you see?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
This is?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Man? I tell you one thing, if the if the
Browns win this, I would.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Be surprised because the Patriots are looking good.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
The Patriots are looking like a really good team. Drake defeat.
I'm this is what I'm telling you. Are you ask
for my? You ask for my? Do you want my?
Do you want my?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Like sports?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
What do I think like sports talk or like like
literal's gonna happen on the field? Or what do I
emotionally want to happen. There's a difference between what I
want to happen and what w do you want to happen?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Joe?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I want the Browns to win. I want the Browns
to put through you. What do you think is going
to happen? I think that, so I think that the
Patriots might beat us. Honestly, if you really want to know,
I think the Patriots. I hope that because just because
just because I think offensive attack, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I want to see what we can do with the
run game. I know they're beatable. I hope we beat them.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I think we can beat them, but with their running attack,
with the way that Drake May is playing.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Hope and wish and pray, hope, faith and charity all that.
You know what I'm You got a lot of words
that don't equate to w That's what I'm saying. That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
When when I speak, when I talk about it as
a as a fan, as I want as a fan,
as wanting my team to win, then that's when it
gets real, like this got to happen. But if I
just want to talk to like the Patriots are playing, when.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
The Browns play the Steelers, you just want to see
a good game and wins.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
I want to see a good game. I want both
of them, with the teams to play at a high level.
I just want to see good football and whoever and
wherever the Chips wait for all they fall.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I just I'm having a difficult time with that situation,
and I think the people are too.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I understand that, but they didn't but they didn't have
a blood who I spent seven?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I mean, you're kind of talking like somebody I know
in Miami. I don't see. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't want to start sounding like Coach and McDaniel
when I'm starting to talk about the Browns.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah. Yeah, get the swettering, get the stuttering, get the
move in my hands, get to not really get to
not really sing any and then.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
What you think is gonna happen? Deebo?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Give me what do you think is happen with the
Browns versus Steller? I mean the Browns versus the Patriots,
Patriots all day? Patrick, you already know that.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Stop it?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Who what the Browns beating a the Patriots at home?
Who they coach mhm rabel about He said he ain't
have he said, suit up himself for he lo tof you.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Louse to the brown Okay, unanimous unanimous victory by the Patriots. Okay, No,
I'm you know what I'm going I'm gonna put it.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna do this time
just because I think the Browns defense balling, elite junkins balling.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I just think this is gonna be my This is
gonna be the game. They hit him, come across the middle,
he goes, this is gonna be the game.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
This is gonna be the game. This is gonna be
the game for real.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Real.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
That's gonna be able to show me a lot about
Dylan Gabriel too. I'm gonna be I'm gonna hold the defense.
Defense got the ball, special teams has the ball. Running
game obviously, let's give make sure we get the ball
to Drunkeets.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
We're not gonna make him have to throw it fifty times.
But I need you to throw the ball a little
bit downfield. I need some.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I need some two hundred and some yards with a
touchdown and the interceptions.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
If I can get two twenty in the touddy good.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
First down converno, third down I needed to get. You
know what I'm saying, great third down conversions. Keep a
couple drives alive, use your legs, don't be dumb. You
know what I'm saying, and if we can beat them
with if Dylan can win this game, then god they Okay, Okay, Dylan,
I see you, but I don't know with what I've
seen from the previous games. I'm I'm not saying that
I don't know they could happen, but I hope he

(29:37):
can do it.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Okay, you're hoping. I'm hoping hoping. Okay, that's good. It's
good to have hope. You know what I'm saying, because
I want to do I mean, but you know, how
many games do I won?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Two? Huh?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
How many two? Two? Okay, Okay, I was just checking.
I was just checking. You know, when you start losing games,
is what have you done for me lately?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Last week they bust.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Miami, so we're gonna see Miami. Look.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Look, last week the Patriots beat Tennessee, so both of
them had so both of them can say, Okay, you
can only.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Be who you play Miami.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Miami.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Look, Tennessee would beat Miami. Miami can't get get nothing together.
We're gonna see like losing like that, you start losing
things as the Ravens. The Ravens they lost their ping
pong table in their locker room. That's what happened. What happened.
Yet stuff Now you start, you ever had something taking

(30:38):
away in the locker room, Start losing privileges, Start losing privileges,
losing all your little games that might be in there.
You know what.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I never liked having like little games and pool table.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
All that stuff in the locker room because it it
ass distraction to why you're there, Like you hear the work,
even though it is a job that you enjoy, you
like to be there. You're you're here to work. I
don't need nothing distracted me from being able to get
out to the field in time.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
You know what I'm saying. It just it just it
just don't make no sense.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah, I was never I was never really a game guy.
Sometimes we would play cards like just to blow the
time through.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
But listen, listen, your boy said, he said, want my
bracest say the word. Well, morale, thank you hasn't dropped.
We still feel we can make magic. They gotta make magic.
That's you gotta make magic. I thought, all you need

(31:37):
to do is just play at the level that y'all
had been playing that before this year, and that would
you know, that would be enough. They talking about magic.
I understand they're talking. Why they're talking about magic? Like
what is it they won and five something like that, Yeah,
something like that, something like that. How many teams done
made the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
That that was one in five?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Dude, not a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Four or five teams? I think that that made the
playoffs that started started one to five. And you over
here with the Pittsburgh Stellers. You over here with the
Pittsburgh Stellers who you gotta see.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Two times he talking about they gotta play every game
like it's a it's an elimination game. We ain't. We
ain't losing to no Ravens, No.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Not. They gotta get that magic back. When when is
Lamar coming back? They say Lamar is supposed to be
coming back this week. But if that's what they say,
that's what they say. I need to Lamar to go
out there and do his thing, okay, but I might
need him to have a little setback before.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You see us. That's all I'm asking. Damn, I'm just trying.
I'm not and ain't. I ain't asking. I ain't. I mean,
I ain't wish nothing bad on nobody. You know what
I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
No, no, no, not just but I mean I think
the last time we've seen him, they put some numbers
up that was not I didn't like those numbers. Wasn't
it like close to like three hundred, like rushing something
like that? I think, So, yeah, I don't. Hey, y'all,

(33:22):
y'all want the Magic Back, go down to the Magic
Kingdom in Disney, y'all go there.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
They gotta start, They they gotta just they got it.
I'm not I'm not believing in the in the Ravens
this year. You know, they the defense still like at
the end of the day, Lamar's out, the offense isn't
doing what they gotta do, but your defense is not
playing well. So we're talking about the Magic Back, and
everybody got to do their one eleventh. Everybody got to
do their job. There's people running open, there's people running

(33:49):
through the defense. So that's not going to change in
one week, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
And then when your offense gets back, when Lamarc's back,
he's gonna have to take time. He's not gonna take
him time to get back into his groove.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I don't think. But your team.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
You couldn't win because the deep, That's what I'm saying.
So if nothing, if you like magic, man you need
a miracle, you.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Got it, man, something gotta change. So I mean they know,
they know looking at the tape, they got to perform better.
So it's accountability. So it's really just the dude, like
you said, they have the they have the players to
do it, so they got to start playing better or
if they gonna be looking still crazy. And I don't
think that the magic is doing your job everybody, you
know what I'm saying, consistently, like making the routine plays routinely,

(34:34):
like you know what I'm saying, Like every play is
not made for you, you're setting your teammate up to
do it, and just the normal things. When you do
that normally, then it's gonna look magic. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Like there's nothing extra that you gotta go do outside
of yourself. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, it's it's nothing magic.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Just do your job better than the person you're going against,
like when you're one on ones and everything else.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Should take care of yourself.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Debos a lots simpler, you know what I'm saying, when
you really put it into perspective, like when you go
in that film room and you're really sitting there with
your coaches and you're really breaking down the tape. You
can see each play like, oh no, he lost one
on one right here, he was blocked out of the way.
That's what made, you know what I'm saying, this play open.
That's why this whole is this big. You know what
I'm saying. It's not nobody's fault back here in the secondary.

(35:19):
This fault right here was on this defensive tackle that
should have been there normally. Exactly, you stay right there,
he's gonna jump over to the next gap, and then
if that gap is not contained, that's on that man
where he should be in his spot. Like, it's not
as hard as people try to make things like. It's
not a magic thing. It's like you no, it was
all eleven people doing their job on this play. Won
this play. Next play with everybody.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You start losing, you have guys trying to do extra
like I'm gonna do what I need to do and
mind and then you go and you think you got
you or secured, you go and try and help your partner.
Now all of a sudden, that running back back door
to that spot you was at now simpler, you know
what I'm saying, And now you're looking like man, like

(36:01):
do your job.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
And everything else would fall in this place. Man, take
care of your kitchen, yo. Brandon Graham, be back, m back,
be back.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Ben said, you're gonna see what shaping in to see.
You know how much you go using where you go
go from there? Hey, you ever had any teams that
tried to get you to come back out of retirement?

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Man, no debo, No no, because I told my agent
I'm done. And when I respect the game too much.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Really the fans is asking for you right now on Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Brother, I'm telling you this right now, I respect the
game too much.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And just my hips and the surgeries I had, like
I just don't feel physically like I could do what
I needed to do, like running, breaking, like doing that consistently,
like that when I was in the league.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Bro that stuff I was.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Doing, like with the maintaining my body, I was getting
the dry needles. I was doing all this stuff every
single day, like watching what I ate working out. You
know what I'm saying because I took it really seriously,
because like after year once I was in the joining
year six and seven, I started getting a little older
and it wasn't just as easy to get up every
day you go to the practices, you do this stuff
to wear and tear the grind of the game. And

(37:14):
nobody's getting older out there. These dudes are getting younger.
There's new draft picks coming in every single year. Alabama, Florida, Miami.
They're coming in hungry, ready to take your spot. And
they're athletic. They're not getting any less more athletic.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
The dudes are running faster, they're jumping higher, and they're
really really good.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
So I would be a disservice.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I would be disrespecting the game, thinking like I can
just come off the couch after two years of just
chilling not doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I know my groins is tight.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I can't really dunk off vert like I used to
like just being able to stand in the real jump
and dunk.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's what I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, bet I can do things that other just normal
people aren't doing at my size and stature because I'm
a professional athlete right now, No, I can't do that
out there.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
With Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
You telling me guard a man, the man he's going
to up. I'm going to look nuts out there, like no, sir.
So I think for me, it's more respect for the game.
Telling my agent and look, man, I'm out of here.
And I don't want to go out there and be
looking like you.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Don't want to get embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I don't want to go out there get embarrassed like this. Damn,
what was y'all doing out there? Looking crazy getting toasted.
I want the people to remember the last.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Time I was out there playing. That's the guy to
go out there, he get toasted and all that other stuff,
and you talk, you talk trash.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
To him, and he'd be like, I make more money
than you. Though what I'm saying it's only to throw
at you.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm making more money than you.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I'm like this here now, you're out here stealing you
just not here. You don't even mean it. You know
they're not trying to get in there. I want to remember, like,
I'm gonna go hard. I want to throw myself in there.
I want to make these tackles. I don't want to
be nervous in the open field when I see Derrick Henry,
because when I played, I wasn't scared. I'm like, no,
I'm about to come down chop this tree. I'm about
to come take his legs out, you know what I'm saying.

(38:55):
So now, if I was thinking out there now, I'll
be like, oh, I'm running up looking crazy. I'm like,
I'm I about to get you can already get ran over?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Like nah, I'm not so.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
How you think?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
How you think? How you think, Brandon go do? Oh?
I think people are different.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
I think like like, like even ud Bo, how you said,
continue to take care of your body. If he feels good,
if you can take that wear and tear, if he
can get to that position where I just don't want
him to go. If he goes out there and he's like,
man like this is just a little bit too much,
Like I just don't know. I just know for my
body wise, if he was able to take care of
his body, be in a position to get out there
and really make plays, all more pressure to him, more

(39:32):
love to him.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I remember what's the safety? Uh?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
The safety that played for the Chargers?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
My man, he had the Eric Weddle, Eric Weddle, he
was on the pread four minute and then he was
able to come back and ball out. I'm like, man,
great for you. You must have been taking care of
his body. I can see players that could do it.
I just know myself personally.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Heck, no, it ain't happening. It ain't happen.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Listen, I totally understand what you're saying. It's like people
be like, man, you could come back. Nah. I tell him, looks,
looks can be the same, Yes, I.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Tell him, I'm just going for the look. You man,
you look like you could play. I tell him, can
be deceiving. That's it. That's the only thing I'm going for. Now,
where is the look? I want to look like? It
look good for show?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
But like running, jumping, tackling, getting up to full speed
right now, like take.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Off, I have all out sprint. I am tearing something.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Brother, AMI's going to blow off the bone. I can't
even imagine it. That's bad, that's bad. Roger Goodell said
he is exploring how AI could improve officiating. You like
that idea.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I love that idea. I do too.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
If y'all want, I want you to get everything straight,
get everything correct, get it right, like so that it's no, oh, well,
if this had got called, if this hadn't got called,
so on and so forth, like it's an easier way
to do all this to get. Make sure you get
everything one hundred percent correct. That's like baseball. They don't

(41:03):
want to use the strike thing, like it's right there.
All you gotta do is like it's gonna be popped.
They hit you and say strike, You're like, all right, strike.
But some of them dudes be so far off calling strikes.
You're like, dude, like if he had an opportunity to
get another swing or two at that, the whole game changes.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Didn't know for sure. They're leaving room for a human error.
I think some of the.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Stuff, like I want to see how they would do
like holding calls, stuff like that. I think like line
calls like is that a first down? Did they score
with their feet in? Did they go out of bounds?
Those things like like the tennis ball, Like that stuff
is like you can see if you got a chip
on the ball, you know that if they passed the line.
Did they passed the first down line or not. I
just would look at like some of the holding calls
some of the stuff that's kind of like decision wise.

(41:47):
I don't know how AI can kind of do that,
but I know for like lines, first downs, did they
score toes in?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Stuff like that? For show.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
It makes perfect sense because they're direct. It's like there's
no point in like, nah, did he do that? No,
the ball they could tell soon as the elbow went down.
I think AI is just so much more.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Specific, like matter of fact, like this is exactly what
it is. Yeah. Also, something that that happened when I
went to New England is uh, sculpture refs. People don't
A lot a lot of teams don't. Don't don't scout
their ref what's smart to me?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
When when I got there, I'm like, why have we
never you know, Wen, it's like you they scalped the refs.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
If this is a ref that caused a lot of
holding calls, If this a ref that caused a lot
of uh, you know PI calls, what calls do he
make and what costs don't he make? So that gives
you the opportunity to be like, yo, I could be
a little handsier today than than before versus Oh, this
ref raight here, he's going to call. He's going to
call everything. It don't matter if it's a little tug,

(42:47):
a big tug. He's a guy, He's going to call
it by the book, straight down the line. And that
was something I was like, oh for real. They was like, Yo,
so this ref right here, he ain't calling holding, he
don't call holding. Yeah, so you get tackled, you're not
going to get a hold. Do everything you can to
get off the off this alignement, off this line. Yeah,

(43:08):
because nothing's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
He's not gonna call a holding. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I remember, I think, yeah, I remember, I forgot when
which team, but I remember they would come in and
let us know what crew we had and where they
ranked in crews and holdings, what call like, what called it?

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I'm like, that's one of the smartest things I've seen,
because they're like, Joe, you better not touch these dudes.
These they call defensive passing the ference like real high.
So they're gonna be real, real nicky, you know what
I'm saying. I'm like this, damn, that's crazy. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, that's something that I that I never I never
even thought about, like, and when I got there, it's like, yeah,
the officials for this game is going to be blah
blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Hey, this is a dude that ain't gonna call holding.
This is a dude that's gonna call holding.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
This is a dude that, hey, you could back off
a little more off the line as a tackle because
he's going to be more lenient on that you know,
off the ball stuff. Then the other guy, Like the
other dude is like, Yo, if your waist, if your
head ain't breaking that center's waist, he is he popping you?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
And it's stuff like that that I don't I don't
think a lot of teams think about dude like like
it just it just didn't like it didn't make any
sense not to do it, especially once I got there
and I'm looking at it, I'm like, yo, why we
never do this in Pittsburgh, Like like we could have
had all kinds of little different advantages, Like Okay, I

(44:28):
know this dude ain't gon call holding, so don't let
me get too tight end on this, you know, on
this on this tackle because he's not gonna call the
arm around the neck.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
He's just gonna let that go, you.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Know, look for sure, but we go We're gonna slide
over here to the to the NBA. Man, the NBA
has a gambling scandal going on. Something fishes.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I like it get yo is yo. They said, what
was it six years ago?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Boy Chauncey Billups had a poker scheme, popping, manipulating, shuffling machines,
X ray table bruh, like he had it all going,
all going, they said. They said they actually got text
This is all allegedly. Okay, that's that. It's allegedly. Yes,

(45:21):
they got all this allegedly. Okay, I don't it's allegedly.
I'm just go say allegedly, Okay, Allegedly they have texts,
They got paper trail texting back and forth talking about, hey,
you went in too much, you need to lose some.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
We go get we gonna get caught. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
They saying seven million dollars over six years, seven million dollars.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Bruh.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
If I ever played any type of gambling poker with you, bro,
you go give me every penny back. Jail time ain't
what you're gonna have to worry about, brou Like, jail
time will be the easiest thing that you gonna do.
Like out of jet seven million dollars press debo.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
So there's a lot of different things on this joint.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Was so they got like Rochier and they got billups
with doing like the setting up the cards, setting up
the decks, having people like Fish like him and a
couple of dudes that they know, and then bringing in
another guy that doesn't know what's going on and fleecing
them for their money. So that that was the part

(46:34):
where it was like they had the cards and the
and the decks and the and the dealers were in it.
So my thing is people gamble all the time, and
I'm not with the gambling. Like if you're in the NFL,
like you know how they are. They always do those
NFL meetings about telling us you can't gamble, you can't
gamb all.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
That's like it's a big no no. In the lead,
they let you know that, my my.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Thing is playing in the NFL and being a player.
We know that you can gambling, like it's a job
that you do where you make the money.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
So with NBA, I'm looking at them where like these
these palais, these like prop.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Bets where it's like the unders and that's what they're saying.
Like Terry Rose was like they said he went on head,
pulled hisself out. I'm gonna take an aw under nine
or over ten, minutes into the game to get the
under and they put like, I guess, like two.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Fifty on it.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, man allegedly allegedly alleged, allegedly.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
My thing that this though debo is with that part.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Though, at the end of the day, you're making a
you're you're in an NFL or you're an NBA, you're
a professional player. You know that that's the most frowned
upon a legal thing that you can possibly do.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Correct I hold up now, listener. Allegedly it was also
backed by the mafia. I'm talking about all the families.
The word is the Bambino, the Gambino, the Lew Chelsea.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Like, dude, you talking that that's scary, that's scary. That's scary.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
There's different this, this whole case has a whole different
a lot of different levels to it. Because when we're
talking about the the mafia, that's something that like when
we're talking about just gambling and dudes like gambling and
betting on games. This is like Damon Jones was a
was a was an NBA was an NBA coach and
NBA player. Terry Rozier is an active player, Chauncey Billis

(48:31):
is the head coach for the Portland Trailblazers. When we
talk about the legitimacy of the game, yes, he got
inducted to the whole.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
What's going on with that, I don't know if they're
going to strip he rose now he rose, couldn't get
in because it is we don't.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I mean, it's it's it's it's it's a lot. It's
a lot going on. They're gonna have to do some digging,
I know. And and the other part is too, you
make all that money and you gaming people do That's
that's that that's the part that I'm saying to It's
not like it's not like you're having a real like
people people in the league. There's always having poker games.

(49:11):
People are betting, people are having a good time. That's
what people like to do. Like on the planes, we
would play dice, play cards. The thing is when you
start loading dice, when you start cheating people, that's there's
no chance for them to win. It's not an actual
real gamble. It's it's a it's a theme. You're stealing,
you're you're you're stealing from people.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
But real talk, I ain't never played no type of
nothing with NBA players. Dude, them boys start off way
too high.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Debo.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I have bruh, I have you I had, I had.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I twenty dollars. Hey, I'm not. This is this thing too,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I'm not saying I don't. I don't do it.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I don't do it anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
And sometimes I used to. I used to gain, but
I used to get I would be involved in the games.
Not yet some of them would get crazy. But it's
like I know when the stop. I know when they
have lost some money.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
To your boy, Chauncey, no looking for him right now,
right now? Hey, hey you lost about three about about
three three big ones.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
There's there's certain there, see, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
And there's certain private games that I would know when
they're playing for more than I'm willing to play for.
So this situation where you be in the spot and
I'm like this, oh oh, you could see them playing.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Cards, brother, I was in the spot.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I went to Portland, Oregon for my Jordan trip three
a month ago, and he's the coach for the Trailblazer.
We were at the same spot at the watching the game.
When the Pacers the PA. It was like game something
I think the Pacers playing the Thunder it was a
playoff game.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
We were under there chilling and they were playing cars.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Chauncey was down there in the underneath the little spot.
Robin Niggas allegedly this is.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
The thing though allegedly when they're doing it, I think
the party, the parties were at spots where they would
do like they would have cameras and situations set up.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I don't think he was doing at every game, not
every time. You're just going to go play, getting everybody.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
It's legitimately certainly allegedly set up events where they're doing it.
But if he's that's that's that's theft. That's stealing sometimes.
But at the end of the day, too debo, when
you're saying people are the people that bet one hundred.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Dollars, that's too much, too much, I'm just saying, but
you're saying.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
That's too much.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
But I'm letting you know, Americans were bet one hundred dollars,
they'll bet one hundred dollars, they'll better hundreds and only
half a thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
To their account.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
That's ten percent of their network in their account.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
And that's just what normal you saying that it's not okay,
but you know that's what a lot of people would do.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Say it.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
When you get to the league and people are making
a lot more money. So that's why it's not as hard.
Sounds crazy. Listen, you're making a whole bunch of paper.
You don't need to be betting on nothing. Let everybody
else do that. So they can go ahead, get they
come up, man, do what it is that they want
to do.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
This is the part I'm saying though, y'all. But let's
get to this right here.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
We're still in the in what's the n C Double
LA Basketball we're gonna go to We're gonna stick with
basketball since since we're there, Jared Shaw, they said this
boy could.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Face the death penalty in Indonesia for it edible. Yeah,
cannabis edible?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Bro, Like does he have cancer?

Speaker 1 (52:38):
You? And Indonesia they don't care nothing about that. I
know they don't care, Nathan about.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
That, bro.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Zero tality.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
This is the thing, man, This is the thing, Like
when you're going over here to these these foreign countries,
like like you need to know what their rules are. Dude,
don't go over to these foreign country play around that
you could do they're what you do in America. It

(53:05):
ain't the same, dude, they have way worse penalties. Like,
you steal something somewhere, you get your hand cut off.
Here they say, oh, just let them go, don't stop them.
You don't want to just let it.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Let it know.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
You get your head and now you have the possibility
of losing your life over some And here's the crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Thing dude likes. It's Delta nine.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Like, for the only reason I know about Delton nine,
I accidentally found out about Delta nine. Okay, Delton nine
is a compound brou that I guess is like in
the THC or something. So basically, look, bruh, that's what
gets you high. Okay, Delton nine is what gets you high.
But they sell it as like CBD, so it says

(53:51):
CBD and it won't say without THAC, but it won't
say with THAC.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
But on the back it had at Delta nine. So
this is what happened.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I take CBD, right, so I take real CBD. So
somebody gave me something. I'm gonna change the names and
everything else to protect the innocent or the guilty. It's
the guilty. I'm protected, but I don't want to put
them out there. I don't want to put nobody out there.
I ain't gonna do it. I ain't gonna do it,
but a little bit. Okay, So they give me the
CBD gummies. I'm thinking, okay, cool, right, So I go

(54:27):
and I start popping a couple of CBD gummies. I'm
thinking of CBD, but it got Delta, the Delta nine.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I ate like eight of them. Bro, Oh my goodness,
how many milligrams?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Do you know? It was twenty five milligrams supposed to
be CBD, but it didn't. I didn't know what Delton
nine was.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Eight at twenty five milligrams? Bright, listen, listen too hundred
milligram gummies?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Oh. I swore to God if he let me live,
I was never taking another CBD gummy.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I know, two hundred men.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
And I did not.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Oh my god, B I was so mad.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
That's out of body experience.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Are you were you okay? Did you trip out? Listen? Man?
I was so gone.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I was just like Lord. I was like Lord, Jesus,
please just let me. Yeah, yeah, y'all, never do this again.
Life and life. Life.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
That's when I found out with Delta nine. When they
got a Delta eight too. I guess it ain't worse
as nine. But I ain't messing with no delta nothing,
no more. Like it's just not happening. The easy thing
to do is look up the rules and loss for
the country you're going to, so you can make sure
you ain't breaking none of their rules or loss and
you won't have to end up in jail fighting for

(55:45):
your life. Like Britney Grinder was like, I ain't thinking
out there playing for them in the Indonesian League, and
like you said, though it's not America, and like I know, yes,
spit on the ground. They can. They do? They do?
Really they Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Bro.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Like people think like, oh no, they can't do that
to me. It's like no, no, no, they're there.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
You're in America.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
You get treated you don't understand like people are really,
really really in this world living completely different lives where hey,
women like can't show their hairs.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
If you say it's so bad, believe me, it's some
things in this country that are bad, but do it
is way worse things than under the countries that you
can get far worse penalties for that aren't nowhere near
as bad that you do here that they won't even
blink an eye at, Like I'm I'm not trying to

(56:41):
I'm not trying to go nowhere baby, like I ain't,
no for sure, I'm bull.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Were man, what's what's the like?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
What country have you been to that where you just
you couldn't even communicate because you didn't speak.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Their language and they and they didn't have much English
to see. This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
I'm not really going nowhere to debo where they that
I'm not having nobody help me out or I'm just
lost for the in the sauce like yeah, yeah, no,
I'm not feeling comfortable. I'm not going anywhere. I don't
feel comfortable and I don't feel safe. So like I'm
going like I'm going to I'm going to Mexico.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I've been to Dubai. I love Dubai.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Did Italy, we did Rome, Florence. Dubai was so cool too,
because it's safe, it's clean, because they know you don't
trip out, you.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Don't do nothing stupid.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Nobody gonna do that stupid right, there are consequences, so
people just live very nicely like they're chilling.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
They know like it's clean.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
It's not dirty because it's like this, I'm not gonna
come out here doing nothing crazy, Like y'all don't want weed,
bet won't smoke if you want. The only place you
can have alcohol, it's in hotels, and that's where they
had their clubs on like the rooftops or like the
bottom of the hotels. That's the only place. If you're outside,
you're not walking around just but containers drinking. But if
you're at a hotel you can drink. It's like you're America.

(57:58):
When you walk into the hotel, everybody's chilling.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
You know what I'm saying. But just don't acting crazy.
I'm like this, I like this, but not even it
ain't though. It Just be normal.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Just be normous, don't do nothing. Don't be up here
trying to get a view for doing something funny that
just no, don't get locked up for being just a
locked why being disorderly. Like I'm like, I don't like
being disorderly.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I like chill. I like, hey, how you doing okay?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Good?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Boom boom boom walking around just being a normal human,
you know.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
What I'm saying, respecting everybody else, and they're gonna respect,
You treat people the way you want to be treated,
and that's kind of how I like the vibe. So
I think some of the places like and then just
with the things. If they don't accept the drugs, they
don't play, So why are you trying to If you're
sneaking in you got some stuff, They're not playing about that.
So that's something that you just don't do when you
go across. So like, I think just more the normal

(58:48):
that you acting like, just knowing like you said, they don't.
It's not just America. They're not gonna slap you on
the wrist, take your little drugs. They might chop your
hand off. They might, hey, yes, kill you.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
They might. They might.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
They might shoot you. None of that. Listen, Google, google it.
Google will help you Google if you can go to
jail for anything. Wherever you go, go google it. Google
will help Google. Check out everything it is that you
want to do, where you go, do it at and

(59:22):
make sure you ain't go lose your freedom or your
life over it.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Debo telling people what they got to do man to
get these tickets to that game.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Hey, listen, I got one more thing though, Man, I'm
hoping we got this picture man, it was. It was
a woman in Florida that claimed she was Eminem's wife
after trying to get out of paying the bill.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Do we got the picture? Man? Please please show me.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
The picture if you if y'all think this is this
is possibly be Eminem's wife?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Please?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Can?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Can you got the picture? Please tell me y'all got
the picture? Do they got the Eminem? Shorties? I ain't
got the picture? Man, put it in the clip later, man,
y'all gotta put it in the clip.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Man, But uh, I'm just gonna say I don't think
that was his why I'm almost one hundred percent short.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Did you see it? I didn't see it right? Hey?
Oh yeah, oh super super super sup. And we're gonna
circle back on that though for real.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
But look here, man, don't forget guys, follow me, follow
Joe like and subscribe to Debo and Joe for your
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Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Two sets of two tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Come on, go worry debo.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Make sure you like to the show, check out me
and debo, and we're gonna be here next Monday with
the results and hopefully that still is whooping.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
The packers correct debo one hundred percent and we out