Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Steelers BIG LOSS to Bills, Shedeur vs. 49ers, Broncos survive Commanders - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Debo and Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
How you doing today, Joe, man, I'm doing good, Debo.
I'm not gonna lie to you, my good brother. I
am a little tired because I was at the game
with you yesterday, Sir. I had that six fifteen flight
this morning to get back to my crib so we
could be set up and you know what I'm saying,
do the shut the way we do it so of course,
but it was amazing. I had so much fun watching
the game with you, my brother. Yeah, it was a

(00:35):
good time. I ain't go lie, I mean I'll come.
I'll come on. Good kick. Let's go ahead, get to it.
Let's go ahead, get.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
To the game.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Let's get to a debo.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
First things first, though, I want to say, the Bills
set out they two starting tackles.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
So what does that tell you, Joe? That tells you
that they go run the ball.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's quick passing. Yeah, and what do we do to
open up the game. We come out and Nickel first
play Cook to goes nineteen yards. Why we got to
crack replace they're going to make our corners tackle them
one on one. Yeah, Peezy got to come up on

(01:14):
that one.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I think they tried to do it again the next play.
This time he broke up on it and he made
the tackle. Yes, okay, that's cool. We get to I
think it was second down after that, and we got
the regular defense in there, so we got three big
bodies in there.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Ye able to stop them. I think they only got
like a two yard game.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
And then third down we allowed Cooks to get what
was at thirteen yep. Okay, first down is a run
of one and they end up getting a false start which
put them behind the chance. I think it was like
second and fourteen. They did a little swing pass, and
third down I think it was Echoes. You know he

(01:56):
he knocked the ball down, yep, stand up. You know
they end up going they having to punt the ball,
and they didn't. You know, we didn't stop them. They
stopped themselves. You You seemed to be like, oh, it's
been but don't break, and I'm like, no, bro, I'm
tired of bending.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I feel you, I feel you. Which was it not
on the first drive when we got the pick. No, dude,
I think.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
That was the play where he just jumped in the
air and knocked it down.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I got my I got
my ship a little fuck, my bad, my bad.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
But no, you're right, that was that was it because
he actually made the interception on the that was the
zone he fell into it. Yes, yes, because the receiver
stop running on that one. If he had kept running,
he would have went on head and he would have
just the worst case it might have been, you know,
a breakup or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
So we end up getting the ball. He did a
good job when no question. You know what I'm saying,
no question. I w would like to say, when you
don't do it, we're gonna let you know when you
do what you're supposed to do. That's that's how you
look at his zone. That's what he actually caught it.
He stopped it from hitting the ground and all. Yes,
so that's good.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I think DK got out there the first one we
hit him on the short one, he went for a Yes,
I believe Warren ended up picking up the first down.
I believe it was. Was it the next player or
two plays later.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
He went second he second down, he got like right
to the line, and then they said he branded again.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, and then we had like a two yard loss
on the next play.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Eighty one.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Ain't touching nobody, bro Yeah, like yeah, it was a
screen and third down. It was a nice throw. He
just he just couldn't make it, couldn't there. That was
good defense to Davis. Waite was all in his face
and that's but that's the other thing too. I love Austin,
but like, is he a number two? If that's gonna
be my number two, that's not that's not to make it.

(03:48):
You gotta make that. You gotta make it.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm looking at you, Hi Higgins, gonna make that. He going,
he going top of his head like a usual catch.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So yeah, yeah, you gotta make that. Wind up punting
the ball, Buffalo, get back out there. I think it
was cooks for eight, then cooks for five, and then
they just first yes, and then we get to the
first down and David got him fifteen Yes, ninety five
gets cut off, dude.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like the next play he.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Liket tossed up out of their almost that's the one
in ninety four got blocked by the tight end. Bro
he got almost double reached to the tight end block team.
And of course the DB's they didn't didn't come down
the field like when you're playing in that nickels like
your DB's have to come field.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Dude. They got ready yards too. You got like like
Mike Hilton, you got to be ready to shoot. You
got to be ready for that tackle because especially if
it's a run heavy team, you gotta be ready to
reach your gay. Are we in that defense? Kind? I know,
I know, I feel because that right there, that's not
a good We needed to be. Let that be another
backer or like you said, big lineman in the gym.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
But and then the next play you see they go
to run to camp cam actually hit separate race holds
this gap, can't make it there. Herbert comes through, he
makes the play. That's how it's supposed to fill out. Okay,
the next play they end up getting a fall start again,
which helping us out.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
We need to open us out.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I believe another screen, third and long, we got some
pressure to him, and I believe it was fourth down.
They tried to get us to jump whatever they couldn't
and they put the ball.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yes, good, we get out there. Yeah, it was. I
mean at the beginning of the game, we got stops.
You know what I'm saying, It was stopping we stopped
good defense. Good defense is not the word to say.
Stopping them is the word to say.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Stellers get out there. We go three and out. We
just missed. I think Wilson on that third.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's a bad ball. I mean, he's he's one of them.
He had him beat. You know what I'm saying. He
had him beat sure by good two steps. I gotta
hit that, that's the yeah. I mean, you know you can't.
You can't hit him.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I understand, man, you gotta hit We can't. We can't
afford the right. We can't afford to miss stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Nun you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
But the defense comes out after they forced a three
and out, that's you know, that's still do still just
get back out there. I think we got like a
twelve yard run on second down and then we get
stopped again.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
We punt the ball back to him, yep.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Second down, Cooks he goes to like thirteen, cook go
for thirteen yep. And then Alan scrambled up out of
that for six. On the first down. I believe the
next two players they were able to pick up the
first down running the ball yep. And then Herbie Hey,
he comes through and makes her play.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
We recover it, brod bo that's that's just still like
you said, not good. But they're not scoring any points.
They're not getting on the board at all, so we
could be mad at like the Cracker plays. You know
what I'm saying, people need to Dudes are still getting
tossed out the way. That's not not happening. But zero,
you know what I'm saying. We still get a K boom.
Back to the first play. First play we hit d

(07:11):
K fourteen. That's great.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
We get the second down, we get a short pass
to game well he takes his seventeen. Yes, that's that's great.
I think we first in goal at like the eight.
We end up picking up like seven blue little screen
to one, and then third down we score. It's seven.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Nothing. I'm feeling good. I ain't gonna lie, bro. Just
we in the suite turn. I ain't gonna lie. We
turned like yeah, I was turned. I ain't turn. Ain't
gonna like it. I gotta like it. Okay, we get.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Back out there, the defense get back out there and
we're in Nickel again fourteen yards on the first.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Down, Like, dude, you why are we nickel? I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You got these dbs thinking that they're gonna come down
here and feel this thing.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Like the reason the reason why, the reason this is why,
the reason why Nickel is because it's the they have
three receivers in the game.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Understand that also don't have the starting tackles. You saw
what they were, Dude, I feel you.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm saying, I'm just saying why they would do it.
But then when the game's going on and you're understanding,
they're not throwing it to these dudes. We only need
to have two corners that you know what I'm saying, Swappy,
because the crack replacing them making him they're making a corner,
you make it getting down there having to react to that,
he's already he's already worried about his coverage anyway.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
He's about to make sure that it is what it is.
And by the time he does that, that's.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
A little lady.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, he up on you for Shure, for Shure. I'm
with you down Alan shook a Sack. I don't know
how he scrambled for four and then Matt run you know,
for the first down. I think the next he runs
for the first down. The next play actual run like
we get to was like third and eight. They do
a quick pass that picks up nine.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
That's the one two to the straight to the flat.
That's like a cover of too. I'm looking at a man,
p you gotta go. You can't let if you're the
flat defender, you can never get out widened by anybody.
Nobody can out with you. You got to be the widest
person out there. So I see he was trying to
look at the tight ends running up the field for
like a seven round. You got to be able to
do both of those. But you gotta start backing up
and widening so you can be coming down to that play.

(09:28):
You know what I'm saying, right, it's just yeah, yeah,
it's automatic. Like that's just what it is, dude.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
First down they get a seven yard run because seventy
eight is playing peekable with the running back. You can't
do that. Stay in your gap and stay anytime you
switch back and forth. A running back like Cook is
going to make you wrong. And that's what he did
that he made him wrong because both of those holes
aren't George, you take right one in your line back,
you get the other one. Second down Allen shaking another

(09:59):
sack and scrambled and then he converts the first down.
After that, we lose Queen on that play. And what
I tell you, Joe I said about the Gagley, Yeah
he did. I said, it's about the gagley. Next play
four yards was it by by Cooks? It was cool.

(10:19):
Forced to dB the tackle. He again what he's supposed
to do. But you're forcing a dB to do something
that's out of the realm of his play, of his position,
down in and down out.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yes, they're making him turn. The Bills are making him
into a linebacker. That's what they're making him into a linebacker.
The Bills just with that running game, if they.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Came, they ran the same play like twenty times.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Rather, that's what I'm trying to say. They kept running
that cracking place play inserting. They did the same thing. Yes,
it's nine because that was the he went and Joey,
he's not. He's lined up like head up to his
tight end. You need to get on that outside shoulder
because soon as he starts cracking down. If you don't
get off of his tous and run down there and
come right on and close the space. You got cooked

(11:03):
with all that grass. You're in a disadvantage, my brother.
You know what I'm saying. You gotta widen out and
get down there and get ready.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
For Like you said, one time he might try and
shake you. The other time he goes drop, he's gonna
drop it on you.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
We're able to hold him because they ended up getting
a false start. Thank you the helping. They were helping us.
They gotta you know, they got they gotta kick the
field goal. It's halftime. It's three to seven. But Bro,
we done gave up one hundred and twenty five yards
rushing at halftime.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
The same play after the half, Rogers god get sacked
into the depths of hell, knocks, knocks the fumble recovery
for a touchdown. We're down seven to ten.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
This happened so fast, Depot, I didn't know what was
going on.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It just bro, I just I just hollered, Bro, I'm
just I'm no, like I was horror movie.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
You did.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
I was like, no, yeah, we get we get back
out there. I think it was like second eleven, they
your boy Mason throw the ball into the ground. We
end up getting the first down. Like conduct for fish.
They was looking out for us sometimes in this game.

(12:25):
Yeah the Bills, No Bills, That's what I'm saying. And
then second down, Mason throws the ball to Buffalo like
he was actually trying to miss the receiver and put
it over him so he could tiptoe on the sideline
and catch it.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Bro, it was three people over there, brother, there was
three people over there own three of the Bills players
over there and one Mount Washington, and we overthrew him.
How tall is he? Like six one hundred's at least,
he Bro, he gotta be six eight. He gotta be
six eight, three eleven.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
No, Buffalo get out there. I think it was backing
down the tight end and sitting there so open. He
just lays down on the ground and catches the ball
on his butt. Yeah again, first down, we're Nickel again.
He go cooks for six. Yeah, sacking down steal Nickel.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Same play, same play, Bro for thirty one to the seventh,
same play.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
We get him to fourth and one. They scored a touchdown. Yeah,
they missed the they missed the extra point sixteen to seventh.
We come out there and go three and out. Bills
get back out there, bro first down seven, Alan connects

(13:39):
on the next one for ten. Second and nine, Alan
scrambles for eleven. Dude, this is the first time I've
ever seen Jalen Jayalen Ramsey's like body language just like pointed,
disgusted at what he's looking at, like like what's going on?

(13:59):
Like then it's a thirteen yard run and fifty is
supposed to be this run stopper, like he stop the
run if they don't run it straight at him. It
don't look like he can move. And again Jalen is like,
what the freak is going on? It's another ten and

(14:20):
on second down when I see him make that tackle
for that five yard he just looks at the sideline broh,
and it's like he like, what are we even doing?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Bro? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
They end up converting on a fourth and two and
then I think it was a second down. They get
a short pass to Cooks and he takes it. What
sixteen third and goal, Allan runs it in for the
touchdown twenty. He devoted his way in there, bruh. Yes,

(14:57):
like they helped do I soundf ice. Oh no, bro,
it's twenty it's twenty three to seven. Now we get
back out there and I'm just hoping something happens.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
First snap. You can't make it up, Depo, you can't.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
We're able to move the ball a little bit because
they're playing prevent defense. And then when we get down
there inside the twenty, they say, okay, we're gonna start
playing real defense, and we get stopped on fourth down.
It's turner over on downs. Buffalo comes out there, bron
and then goes fourteen plays seventy two yards. They burn

(15:39):
off nine minutes of clock and kick a field goal.
Go it's twenty six to seven. The game is over.
Over right. We got issues. You got big issues.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Stillers have issues that I feel.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
We are unable to fix with this current coaching staff period.
The defense gave up last night, and I personally feel.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Like they didn't give up because that's who they are.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
But they just feel like they cannot win with this
defense because it is one hundred percent ski maadically deficient BRUH.
And it's players in positions that cannot execute the role
of that position. And as much as I hate to

(16:43):
say this, I have never been a person that thought
coach Tomlin was a great coach.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
I thought it was a good coach, and I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Part of that is because when I was slated to
be the starter when Joey left, he drafted one and
two outside linebackers and I was actually behind one of
them for a minute. Okay, But right now, we have
coaches on this staff, and that's it. And when I

(17:17):
say coaches, I'm saying this as a coach is someone
that tells you what to do and it doesn't matter
if what they're telling you to do is right or wrong.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's what a coach does. And we have coaches. Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
A good coach gets you to play to your potential.
And right now, the players we have on that team
I have seen play. I know they can do it.
I have seen them do it, and they're not playing
up to their potential. And a great coach, a great coach,

(18:00):
a great coach gets you to play beyond your potential.
My potential for me as an undrafted free agent was
a special teams player for life. But Keith Butler was
my linebacker coach, and he got me to play beyond
my potential. He was a great coach Dick Lebow was

(18:26):
a great defensive coordinator. He got our defensive players to
play beyond their potential, and right now we can't even
play to it. So you tell me where there's a
good coach on this staff, because right now I don't

(18:48):
see anybody playing to their potential.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Mike Dommlin is in control of hiring.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Coaches, okay, and he may not be the one coach
in the position, but he is in position to hire
the coaches to get the potential out of our players.
And right now he has not put coaches in the
position that can get the potential out of what it

(19:18):
is that we have. Because I know what TJ. Watt
can do, I know what Cam Hayward can do. I've
seen what alex Hei Smith can do. Brother, I've seen
Jalen Ramsey, Patrick McQueen. I can go on and on,
but I'm not seeing it. Why And I go back

(19:39):
to this twenty thirteen. I went to Cincinnati Brown, okay,
and I played in a four to three defense. The
defense did not fit me for my potential of what
I was capable of, and because I was not a
player that fit that scheme, Okay, that didn't work for me,

(20:01):
but what you are now right and right now, we
have a lot of players that are not fit for
the scheme that we run. The interior defensive lineman has
to hold up to the run because we're supposed to
be a three to four defense, Bro, which means the

(20:21):
linebackers are there to make the plays, but they can't
make the plays if the D line is in their
lap half the time. Okay, something has to be done, Bro.
And I know the Stillers historically don't move on from coaches,
but I think it's time that history be made, because

(20:45):
right now, the only history we were making is being
the worst Pittsburgh Stiller team statistically almost in the history
of the organization. And when I think about this, Bruh,
and you go back and you look at the chief

(21:06):
Art Rooney Senior, where he took this franchise from in
two and then Dan Rooney continued the legacy, and to
see it where it is now, it's incomprehensible, Bruh. The
legacy of the nineteen seventy still curtain defenses to the

(21:28):
Blitzburg defense of the two thousand and twenty ten and
to see what it looks like now, it's unbelievable. Are
we going to be the Dallas Cowboys where every year
the fans talking about we them Boys and we go

(21:48):
win the Super Bowl? But you ain't never been in
the super Bowl in the last thirty.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Years, Joe.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I'm gonna be a Stiller fan for life, Bro, But
I like to be a Stiller fan that believes we
can win a game. It doesn't just hope we can
win a game. And right now I done lost hope.
Damn Debo. Oh bruh if.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Damn Debo like because I'm not Look, this is what
I'm not gonna I don't want to say nothing crazy
because then I want you to crash out. I want
to say. What can I say right now? Honestly, Debo,
to support for support, I'm just asking as a friend, Bro.
I don't even need support, Bro, I just need that.
I just I just I don't know what I need.
I need something done. You need something done. If we
don't do anything we are saying we are this is

(22:47):
okay mm hmm. What is going on? What has been
going on? So this is what I'm gonna tell you too.
Exactly what you're saying with the coaching part is I
understand that wholeheartedly, like coaches can make me. I've had
terrible coaches where I'm like, you're not helping me at all.
You're actually harming my You're not making me any better.

(23:10):
You're not. You're kind of putting confusion into my head.
You're not. You're making me think twice. And that's what's
gonna slow a player down quicker than anything if you
don't know what Like, No, you got a great coach
that's gonna teach you technique, that's gonna teach you where
you need to be, where your eyes need to be,
and teach you what's the what's the word on nuances?

(23:30):
What's the word nuances? There we go the nuances of
your defense. So when you got like a really good
coach like he always like when I had, I say,
who had out there? A g Aaron Glynn, Aaron Glenn
with my dB coach played in the league, had forty
somethin I'm listening to that man every word he says
out of his mouth because at the same time, he's

(23:52):
not telling me nothing that I don't think it's possible,
and nothing that he never done before. Exactly, it's like okay,
back boom Joe you gotta be able to and then
if I don't do something, he's able to still understand
recognize it, like talk to me. So those coaches like
they can help you out so much with slant splits
telling you legitimately what's going to happen going into the game,
with how to watch tape, how to prepare you know

(24:12):
what I'm saying, really the real pro stuff. Some other
coaches like they just really And then when y'all say
this to your your staff, your linebacker coach, your safety coach,
if your corner coach, everybody has to be speaking the
same language. Doesn't need to be.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I know we're not speaking the same language. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I completely write debo and that's not gonna work because
that's not that people aren't moving fast. There needs to
be this is the way it's done. This is the
way we're doing it. Everybody sees it. The whole defense
should be able to sit in the damn in the team,
in the meeting and be able to corner back know
just what's going on.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
When coach the boat is there, we broke down. We
broke down defense as a union, bro like you got
you got to see who was doing well, who was
doing this?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
That that that got separated into you know, each each
unit doing their own thing, and now you know, you
get the call out to go, oh, that person should
have did this and that no, bro, like let's let's
go ahead and break this down, you know. And you
was even there in Pittsburgh where it's times where do
we may not even watch the film. I have watched
the film because maybe they don't want to call out

(25:21):
who did something wrong, like it's dude, it's yep. It
Like I said, I don't, I don't. I don't feel
like this can be fixed with what we have now.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Being in that Dad Stadium yesterday debo, that was one
of the saddest times I for sure have ever been
in that stadium when they got the booing renegade. Yeah,
I couldn't. I was you know how you get that,
you know how you embarrassed with somebody. I'm I'm in
the sweet like kind of low key like damn no,
they're not doing this right now, Like I'm looking around

(25:57):
like no, stop booing. But it is what it is.
They really this is how it feels like, you know
what I'm saying, If you're not going to make a change.
People aren't going to be like, this is what it is.
This offense does not look good. The defense we're getting ran.
They's ran for twenty and some yards on us first
down and it's the same play. And when you look
at TJ and when you listen to him saying, he's like,
I've never been in a game where I know the running.

(26:19):
He has no he has nothing to he don't eat.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Why can't you say anything when you can't say anything,
it's things that you.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Can't say that No, no, for sure, he's being a
pro dude. Anyway, Bro, that's yeah, that that that was tough.
Hey man, let's get to oh spaghett to forgett Spaghettio.

(26:47):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You're talking about DMB Browns. I knew you have no
no over there in Cleveland. They listen, see, I see
how that perked me up real quick? And love company,
don't it, mistery? Love company?

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Okay, respectfully, you're funny.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Oh yeah, it was a tough It was a tough
one over there for de bro. We'm not gonna lie
to you, yes, sir, long story short, I think it
was mainly I mean you I don't want to. I
don't even have to go play by play for real
with the Browns game. I really want to get to overall, overall,
how you think, how you think your door played Overall overall,

(27:26):
I think he did still good. He didn't play like.
He didn't play great. You know what I'm saying. He
didn't play great, But at the same time, he's making steps,
making steps. He's still going to be the start quarterback.
I think he you know what I'm saying. A couple
of passes that he overthrown, you know what I'm saying,
they could have put on the money.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I think I think maybe it was one bro, I
think it was really one. I just like one pass overthrown.
And then my thing is, I just want him to
stop stepping back in the pocket sometimes, you know what
I'm saying, Like, I think he could just step up
in the pocket, do a little bit, a little bit
better pocket awareness. But as far as him being able
to be out there starting one thousand percent, he's looking
good for me.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think you can make decisions a little quicker on
in some situations.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's yes a thousand when I'm saying the popperty that
comes with you know, time comes with time that couple
of times, you know. So with me, I'm loving what
he's got going on. I just need to keep keep working,
keep grinding. This is more on the special like this
man special team sold on y'all. We can't We're not
good enough to do that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Like our defense gonna be balling six yard return to
your sixteen?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Come on, how was that going to help? And then
when we finally trying to get a chance, we muffed
the joint at the ten yard line, Like this is
not going to help us win games at all. So
I think that's more. We got to just clean up,
clean up all that defense, y'all keep doing what y'all
got to do. Offense, we gotta run the ball.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I didn't help, not not converting that for down either.
I mean, you're right there. I think y'all was at
the thirty thirty two something like that.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
End up. This is a crazy thing.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
So the special teams return that went to the sixteen,
the turnover on the downs which was a fumble which
it was still would have been a turnover at the too,
and then the muff punt at the A team all
those led to touchdowns. That's twenty one of y'all twenty
six points. Thank you, debo, because it wasn't like they was.

(29:17):
You know, our defense is solid. They're just not out
there getting mudded.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
But if you get put in these messed up positions,
something gonna bench, something gonna give, you know what I'm saying.
So I think with the offense, if you can just
clean that up, special teams just don't do those turn ups.
We have to play a lot cleaner, you know what
I'm saying, Like we we don't have just that. We
can't out talent. You. We gotta be clean. We gotta
not make mistakes. We gotta not turn over the ball.
And that's what We're gonna keep it close. And we're
gonna grind out these games. It's not we're gonna just

(29:40):
blow nobody out. You gotta stay tight with that.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, I mean, you got you got, you got one
good thing going for you got it. You got a defense.
That's that's playing and playing at a playing at.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
A high level.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Dude, and Brady Jerry Judy, he got into a little
I guess confrontation with Shador right there on the sideline.
You know about whatever it was that was going on.
Do you like him having that energy for your door
or no? Do you like him not having that energy
when he didn't have that same energy with Flacco?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And you've seen seventy five footballs fly over your head
and now you want to get mad at your door.
I'm like, bro, this is my whole thing. You know
what your door is going through right now. He's been
a lot. This is only his third game plan. When
Dylan was out there throwing ground balls, nobody was spazzing
on this man, going up to him, talking to him crazy,
like I just don't it just kind of rubs me

(30:32):
the wrong way a little bit. You can go holler
at him, you know what I'm saying. You know he's trying.
You know, he's trying to figure it out. All the
cameras are on him for show and knowing you can
get in the heat of the moment. But I'm like, Judy,
is it because he overthrew the ball a little bit?
Like he'sitn't there trying to talk to you know, Thise
a young quarterback, you're a vetting the league, you're his
best receiver. That's not going to help him in this situation.

(30:52):
I would just hope you could kind of take him
more under the wing. You had Dylan throwing you the
ball in the dirt for save dirt, and we weren't
even coming close to not even coming closer to and
you didn't go over there. And I don't see the
same energy you spasing on him on the sideline. You
was letting go talk to the coach and figure it out.
He's trying to figure it out. That's just it just
gave me like, come on, bro, Like he's only his

(31:12):
third second game starting, you're his best receiver. You didn't
do that when you were getting ground balls previously, the
person of the six games. That just doesn't It just
made me not feel good because I'm like Judy. I
like Judy, Judy, you a good dude. But you know what, man,
my young boy's going through. You know what I'm saying,
So like, be their form. If that was your, that's you,

(31:33):
If that's not you, If you can, if you can
be if you can show some compassion for Dylan, show
my man some compassion, that's all I ask. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, So they tried to get your door to to
to say something. I think we got the I think
we got the sound let's play.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
It has a fourth and one those two fourth and
ones that didn't work?

Speaker 3 (31:53):
And did you like Kevin Hevin the addressing miss there
even backed.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Up in your charapury.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I mean, first, that's a real question to ask if
I'm if I think, you know, it's a great call,
but my coach, you know, like being out there playing,
So whenever that comes, what it comes with, you know, like,
you know, we're not gonna be here and every point
figure out, no coach or do anything like that. You know,

(32:20):
that's extremely disrespectful and that's not even in my place.
So I'm thankful for being out there, honestly, and I'm
thankful that he trusts us as an offense to be
able to go out there and be able to execute.
Do we execute? No, we didn't. But you know, I'm
just thankful that we have that trust.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
You see what he's saying there, bro You see what
we're saying there. He's saying we didn't execute. We didn't,
that we didn't do that. I'm thankful. You know what
our responses was yesterday. We don't know why because you can't,
you can't say nothing.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
He did.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
He did the right thing. We did the right thing.
Our players did the right thing. But why is it
that you believe they keep trying to get your Door
to take off.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Though click bait, debo, click bait. They try and go viral.
They know as soon as your Door says something, anything
he does is viral. And these Cleveland people, they know
they gonna get it, They're gonna get a sound bite.
They're doing it for a sound bite. They're trying to
get him to say something and just get him in
trouble or try to have him hit him against Kevin
outside world. We know, we see how Kevin treats him

(33:21):
the game over there. Door. You know what I'm saying, Like,
we don't have he don't have to go out there
and say everybody else is saying it for him. So
if he's out there and like does it, then it's
gonna make it, oh even more crazy. Chador is really
just trying to go out this thing and play the
quarterback position. I'm happy to be on the field. Thank you, sir, Door.
That was the most perfect response to the question that
Buddy was asking, because it's like, at the same time

(33:43):
I wasn't out there. Now I'm geeked, I'm I'm on
the field. I'm playing. That's the main thing, is the
main thing. You're trying to get me caught up with
the coaching. Y'all know what's going on with the coach.
You're like, y'all do y'all think I'm gonna leave that
to y'all. I'm not my position. I'm just happy to
finally be out there where coaches letting me play. He
knows my name. I'm not about to stay here and
talk trash about this man. You tripping, so I don't think.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't think that's the You know, you just can't
do it, especially when you're playing on the team. You know,
even with you know, Aaron, you know, I think he
called out the unnamed uh you know receiver that I
guess wasn't going to to the meetings, to the meetings,
you know. You know you can't do that because now
everybody's looking. They want to know who it is. You know,
even if that is the case, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Do you know who it was? I have no clue.
Do you have an inkling?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I have no clue. I don't look at the offense,
I look at the defense. Okay, how can you think
who you think it was? And I don't just you
gonna say it. I mean, I think it was Smith.
I think it was eighty one John nuth M.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I just think so because you see how frustrated he
was when he threw the post on that second and
goal and he ran a seventh route. He was fazing,
you know what I'm saying, like, and he's like, yeah,
and there's some people they run away. So I'm like this,
but you know, from from from what? I what? What? What
I hear?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
You know here and there, I hear hell, some of
the coaches leave fast as the players. Do you know,
I don't. I don't know. I've never heard nothing like that.
I mean, the coaches are usually the ones that's there
till late.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Not not coach though, not coach.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I'm not talking about coach t But I'm just saying like, yeah,
that's that's what that Obviously you're hearing the same thing.
I'm here, man, you know, so I feel like we'll
be in the same room sometimes.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I don't know what's going on. But I mean, again, coaching, yeah,
good coach, I just good coach.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Great coach. Bad coach, No, I'm just a coach. A
bad coach go tell you the wrong things to do.
I don't think we got no bad coaches. We got coaches.
We got coaches I don't know. Well Again, like you said,
we hear things and they're being told different things for
the same assignment, different coaches. So is that just purposely

(36:07):
telling you the wrong thing or just nah, no knowledge
of the whole understanding of it.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, it would have to start from the top, and
I would just the coaches got to buy in to
whatever they're they're trying to do, you know what I'm saying,
Like everybody has to be teaching the same thing. If
they're teaching something that they don't like in the other
coaches like this, man, I used to do it like
this where I'm from. So like, I'm like this, that's
how you're going to have the team jacked. Yes, And

(36:33):
I say that's what I remember because I'm not no
disrespect the dB coach I had coach Scrap. I love
them to death, but they will always talk about what
they did in Penn State. I'm like, nobody gives a
fuck what y'all did at Penn State. No, we're right
here right now. That's what you get us. Beat. I
don't care what they did. You know what I'm saying
so like, if that's that, that's real life. You got
to have all your coaching staff bleeding together. This is

(36:54):
what like if if your defensive line coach in a
no matter who tells you, it is a that's all
so like, we don't have that.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
It's confusion telling you we're just confusion. There's just disruption.
There's gray. You can't have gray. There's gray. There's too
much gray. White, there's too much gray. It's like, yeah
that gray. No, man, what what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
What color is that? Black? Or white? That's great? No,
that's great. I got to this is great. This is
a couple of grades. Yeah, man Selby Hare's over there.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
He said, uh, he said, I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Ain't nobody punched him in his jaw yet? We got
to sound for that. Take. God, this was a great one.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
He's a whole And I want that known, Like, I
see why you got pushed the nuts, because that's like
he said some things that you should not say to
another man ever, But like I don't respect it because
you say that didn't run behind your old line. That's
some real soft ship. And I want that known. I
see exactly why they punch you in uts. I'm surprised
nobody put.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Some of the joy yet.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
So apparently I guess he was talking about families, wives
and kids and stuff, and you know that's uh, I mean,
everybody know that's off limits. Like come on, dude, wives, kids,
that's crazy, Like like, what's the what's the worst trash
talk you alloud?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And what was off limits? Joe? Honestly, bro like, like
you said, everything is mostly go except for like kids
and family. You know what I'm saying, because like, you're
not touching me, you're not doing nothing, You're not gonna
hurt me. I'm out here playing ball. You vally wasting
your energy. I can't breathe. I'm out here. I'm a cornerback.
If I'm sitting here trying to chop it up with you,
I gotta run a fayeball after fayeball. I'm trying to

(38:47):
keep my my breathing right. I'm trying to stay ot
here and be good. They don't stress me out at all,
like trash talk and all that, but like when you
start talking about family, personal things like family and my kids,
that's just it's off limits. At the same time, I'm
not gonna do nothing to you on the field. I mean,
that's still just words honestly for me while I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
But I know I'm gonna keep I'm.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Gonna keep it a buck.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Uh, dude, if you had talked about my kids, I
ain't even gonna say nothing to you, I promise you.
I'm I'm gonna still on you. Soon as the game
over with I A'm going to steal on you. I'm
gonna try and knock all your fronts out. I'm not
gonna say a word to you. I'm just gonna look
at you deservely, so h soon as you pop that

(39:33):
helmet off, I'm gonna bomb on you. I don't care
if I gotta get you walking through the tunnelm you're
gonna catch them. I'm gonna catch you. Yeah, I'm gonna
catch you like you can do all that. You know,
ask this, and you know that's that's normal talk.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
You know what I'm saying. You know, I'm You're lucky.
I ain't kill you on that play, all that, all that, yeah, boo,
all that.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
You know, I ain't tripping on that. But he doing that,
he like legitimately has research, He did research, he talked,
He probably he probably calling names the names old lady
by listen, listen, oh man, teammates, bro, he said, a teammate. Ber.
I ain't gonna say his name. Bro. You know who
he is, you know he is that boy would do research.

(40:18):
I don't care about the people, old ladies. That dude
do research about girlfriend all that stuff. Man. You know,
he kept an ear to the streets. See bold on him. Listen.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
He ain't talking about no wives though, just before now okay, okay,
and you know, don't let it be you know, like
some outside club to all that. You know what I'm saying,
you gotta yeah, you know I'm hearing. I'm hearing this
out the corner of my ear. I'm like, I'm hearing.
I can't tell you what was saying.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
But yeah, I'm like, he what who that one right there?
I'm like, oh my god. You know I'm not gast
into it.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
You Hey, bruh, bro man, Hey, And I ain't gonna lie, dude,
it had And he, like I said, he getting he
getting real details just before the real social media and
all that.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
You know what I'm saying, like he getting detailed, so
he know he no, no, he no, no, he been there.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah right, Oh, now, once you say something you know,
no anything after that is actually reasonable or subscept or
susceptible for him to believe because he know you said something.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
That you know know that you should no. No, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah dude, it was it was throwing casts off. I
ain't gonna lie to you, bro, Oh no, that for sure. No,
it was throwing cast off.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Dude. Who was the biggest trash talker you played with
her face? Michael Crabtree and and Kwan Boulder. Okay, yep,
both of them. I can't me and Michael Crabtch, I
still I still want I still don't like him. I
still don't like him. But me and a quad cool
and quad Cool, he just go hard. He's trying to
block me off all this stuff. I could respect it.

(42:01):
Love of the game, you know what I'm saying. So
like I said, just like like what's up? And then
we just started talking, going at it, saying crazy but
no harm, no foul. Crabtree was just being him responsor
by Jordan together. We was two Jordan athletes, and I
thought it was gonna be cool man when I first,
but he was like this. You can't guard me? Oh

(42:21):
like that, I said, y'all strap you. So then from
that point on, every time we see him, we just
don't rock with each other. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I'm like,
damgn bro, you just gonna walk up to me tell
me you can't guard me. I'm like, damn no, how
know what's up? Bro?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I guess the Titans running back. Julius Chestnut says the
Jaguars kicker, uh cook, he he threatened to killing, like, hey, hey, Joe,
what you doing? If the punter starts talking crazy, Look.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
He's gonna he's gonna get cracked back. He's gonna get
cracked back. I'm gonna hit him like Sean Taylor did
straight up. Bruh. You can't do that now though, I'm
gonna look, he's gonna get cracked back. Though he's gonna
I'm I'm gonna have to hit the punter, bro, not
not crazy, Like I'm just trying to block him, not

(43:19):
too hard. I don't even know if I could take
it serious. It depends how he said it. But look
what he gonna do. But that's what I like. How
did he say it?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Though? Like you know that's in his face too though,
like like I'm an kidd you just like for real,
like like right, did you mean it?

Speaker 4 (43:38):
For real?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
You know how deep? You know what I'm saying, I
kill you? But like coming across the middle, like I
took your hair off, Man, my head is not really
coming off, you know what I'm saying. Like you the
punter talking about you're gonna kill somebody, like for real,
for real, That's what I'm saying, Bro, What kind of
is he affiliated? Right, That's what I'm saying. I got
to check. I got to make sure up now check

(44:02):
his bad dawn. Man.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
They gotta be they gotta be like the most disrespectful
thing ever. The punter threatened to kill you, Bro, that
you threatened to kill me as a punter.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
How did they get on the field? Was he was
this special team to be on some type of special team.
That's the only time is that's on the field, or
unless it was pre game he went out of a
smack crazy no way, brouh, no way he did that.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, I don't I don't know, bro, the fact that
he threatened you. He gotta be thinking real little you man.
Ain't no punters out there just just talking ruthless and
crazy like that.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And run up on you. Bro? Hold on, did he
play for the Jacks Jack?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Oh yeah, I'm telling you he must have some goom
teammates and some people that he really trusts.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
No, Bro, I don't care who you trust. Bro, You're
not about talking what you're gonna do. Kick me, That's
what I'm saying. You kick the ball at me or something. No,
he might got five huh he is You never know
a pun of custom. Did he say I'm you know
I'm gonna go into the trunk? Said I'm gonna be back. No, No,

(45:14):
I'm gonna kill you, like right here, right now on
the field with my bare hands and my kicking leg
like I mean, he might be able to kick the
ship out you though. I ain't lie. Now, you go
ahead catch across that mid section. He'll put you down
for a while. You down for Yeah, he gonna eat you.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
May kick my ribs now puncture along for sure, surgery
surgery for show.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I don't know they're gonna take you out. Oh my goodness, dud.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Broncos went on head and beat the Commanders in overtime, dude,
twenty seven to twenty six, And they did it with
your boy what's what's his name?

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Banito? But yep, Benito, Benito.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
He blocked the overtime two point converged and swattered that
thing down.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Bro, they went for the two version for the win.
I mean what they got to lose?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
You're right, the game, it's overtime, Like you could go
into a tie and worse.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, give me rather win rather that. We done been
out here all day, all day.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
We could have just left the zero zero just right
and be like, yo, let's just call this right now,
even step out here, yeap, let's forfeit this thing and
call it. Let's call it. Let's call it a straight
up tie, like yeah, is there is there any worse
way to end a game, bro than a tie?

Speaker 4 (46:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
No, thousand we lose, lose for show, lose worse tie.
I'm just pissed off because I'm like this, I need
to do something like how I'm I'm unfigured out? Like
I came in here. We've been fighting for an hour
of a for three hours and it's a draw. Like
I don't like draws. We gotta we gotta have a
winning somebody. Hey, somebody gotta win to lose, man, somebody.

(47:09):
We've been here two that damn long. I've been sweating up,
been fighting for my life. You're gonna I'm out here
fighting for my life, my life, and you're gonna tell
me up even even let's go, we go call it, nah,
we go. We're gonna sit here and play until the morning.
If we're gonna shoot forward, we gotta shoot forward.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Something some got something, pass, competition, something, field goal, you
know what.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Whoever can hit the goal post, longest field goal, longest
still I can win the tie longest field goal? Or
I can yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes see that's
longest field go or fifty yards.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I think they just went eighteen innings in baseball and
one of them playoff game eighteen.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
That's too long. Somebody got win. Somebody gotta lose. No,
somebody definitely gotta win. Somebody gott lose, like I win,
somebody gotta lose.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Listen, if you gotta, you had a choice to make,
then it's either a go ahead, let them win, because
if we keep playing longer. Hell, you might have a
short week coming up. Maybe did this on a on
a Sunday? You got a Thursday gamesday game? Listen, already
dropped this up? Man, Yeah, hey, we are we already

(48:22):
got issues?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Man?

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah, Yo, what do you uh, what do you think
of the different chances of a you know, winning the
Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Nope, nope, nope, I ain't got Nope, I ain't got
why you say that. I'm just I'm not. I like BO,
but I just don't know. I like BO, but I
just don't know. They and then the receivers are cool,

(48:53):
that they're a good team, but super Bowl, I just
don't think that they have enough.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I just don't. Yeah, I ain't gonna yea.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I feel the same way, like you gotta have something
on the offense or your defense has to be like
just outlandish sleep like great, it ain't it ain't it
ain't that on either side, Like you just went into
a dog fight with with.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Washington and uh Mariota right like, not even the whole squad, right,
not even the whole squad.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Also, that could be a situation where hey, they they
playing they playing down, maybe they ain't playing up to
you know, you know, potentially they could play.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
But it's a lot of these games it's just like
just close. Yeah, it's just too I mean, the good
that they winning, you know what, I'm saying I'm not
mad at their team. I'm glad like you can. You
don't have to. You don't get style points in this league,
so no. But just for my personal preference, if I'm
like Bo, it's just he's just too iffy for me,
you know what I'm saying. So not his consistency ain't there? Yeah, yeah,

(49:59):
I would. I would.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I agree with what you're going now. I would agree
what you're going now, Joe, your time it is back.
Come on, man, play or fade? All right, Joe, you

(50:21):
know how it works. Yes, I've made my lineup for
my picks for tonight's Monday night football game. You either
play my lineup or you've faded, and you tell me why.
So right now, this is my lineup.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Okay, I'm going with Drake May, Diggs and Henderson for more.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I'm going for more.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Because New York is the thirty diffront defense. Drake May
is playing exceptional ball okay, and Stefan Diggs will.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Be a recipient of that ball.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yes, along with that Henderson, he is going to be
going up against a thirty second dead last Russian defense. Now,
I also am going more on Jackson Dark because I
think New England will get a head, get up big

(51:23):
and in trash time, they will be prevent defense and
he'll get some throws in there that won't affect the game,
but it will give him more.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yes, what are you going to do? Brother? I'm gonna
tell you this right now. When I was first looking
at it, I was thinking about playing it for show.
Only when I was thinking about fading was maybe the
dark because I don't like. I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know what they're gonna do. But your explanation,
my brother, those trash yards they gonna be. They might

(51:54):
be getting smacked in those little prevent lickdowns. He might
get sixty five just on something like this don't matter.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
But one drive don't matter for us. We need it
sixty five. We need every one of them yards. So
I'm gonna go ahead and play with my dog. Yes, sir, listen,
that's that's the right thing to do. Look, make sure
y'all download the app today and use the code Debo
Joe for more fifty dollars in lineups after you play

(52:22):
your first five dollar lineup. Okay, tell you, Mama, your papa,
everybody here, tell them all.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Everybody need to know everybody, everybody. Everybody love me. Everybodybody
love me, Dougie Joe. It's saying we got some superchats.
Yes they do. Whoever debo, go ahead, take off, Yo,
we got what is it?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Convent Convent Life seventy ninety three donated fifty shout out fifty.
Covenant Life, Covenant Life seventy nine seven three.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Man, He said Rogers. He said, Rogers hasn't thrown a
hell Mary since this is Covenant Life. That said this bright, yes,
this is coll this is coven In Life.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Right, he said, just he said, he said Rogers hasn't
thrown a hell Mary since Jesus rose from the from
the dead. Bro Arthur Smith brought the church curse from Atlanta,
and that Tomlin needs to retire. Just just go hey,

(53:41):
I'm I'm I'm not saying anybody needs to retire. But
what we are getting here from Mike right now, it's
not conducive to what the Pittsburgh Stillers are used to

(54:02):
and what this lineage legacy of the Stealers organization is.
You know, this is not what these seventies legers want
to come back to. This is not what guys in
my era want to come back to you know, this
is not what the fans want. What what are the

(54:25):
fans going to have once they get ordered? You got
the seventies, you got to you got the two thousand
and twenty ten, they got something to go back to.
What what the young generation that's coming up now got
to go to? Look, I mean at what happened before
they were even thought of, before they was a thought
swimming in their daddy's sack.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Man, if we don't do anything, we are saying that
it's okay, it's happening, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yep, And I debo. I have never in my life
like coach Tomlin. I've always just thought about like no,
like man, no, never getting ready of coach t But
when you think about it outside and when you look
at listening to that stadium, when you're thinking about the fans,
when you're thinking about the belief, like what's going on
for real? Sometimes it's not not retiring, But even the

(55:15):
coach coach he's it may be a different place maybe
you know what I'm saying, not saying like he's not
the worst, but like just to change is something, because
something has change, Something has to change. Because it's because
it's still is not having still is not having hope
is not good? Like that's that hope is going. That's
what I'm saying, And that's not really something that I'm

(55:36):
used to.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Seeing from the stellers. Like what do the fans have
to look forward to on a Sunday? Now, this is
a blue collar time. People work hard, they go and
they grind, and on Sunday you get to go out
there and you get the root on your stealers and
you get to see and let your frustrations out, because
you feel as if when you're watching your defense out

(55:58):
there and they're punishing people, that's you punishing people because
you're done put in all this work out here all week,
and now you go there and you get let down,
and you get beat down even more, and you got
nothing to go back with but more of nothing. That's
what we're looking at. That's why fans are frustrated. They
done went all week being stumped on, stepped on, and

(56:21):
then we get out there on Sunday and we get
stumped on and stepped on.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
They fill that with us.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Dang, you ain't lying. I said I wasn't go get it.
I ain't gonna raise my voice. I ain't gonna do it. You.
You did way better than I expected today, though, Debo,
that's his fact. We got another super chat too. Go ahead,
take off, man, what's this? L L Y and Lynch

(56:53):
donated twenty dollars number six personal fouls every FN game?
Is she talking about queen as even? But said? I
don't know? Did he get a personal file? I don't know.
I didn't see one, did you? I didn't think so.
But she's something was just personal files every in the game.

(57:14):
Do we get our team get personal files? You by
talking about I don't know, I guess Cam got one.
So yeah, cause that dude come on talking about talking
about my.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Quarterback needs you in the stomach, Like, man, how many
times you don't you don't hit somebody and they stuff man,
Like that's what excuse me?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
That's what we're talking about, bro. We're not talking about
how they just went out.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Here and and and and just really like did what
they needed to like that that that penalty don't even matter,
like just let it like let it ride.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I'm sure you could find players out there where you
done did something that you gotta wit with, Like everybody
I did something, But that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I don't know, man, this who's your trucker donated five
dollars a rod seems to reference last night by the
players not showing up for film study? Is that normal?
Just do whatever when the meetings called.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
So I don't know if it's actual like film study
that is like set up by the players or whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
My thing is this.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
If it's something that's set up that you are decided
that you're going to do, either as a group or
as a offense or whatever, you need to show up.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yes, period, It doesn't it doesn't matter, I know. And
then when he's saying is that normal, I would say no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I'm not a person that watched film as much as
everyone else. I watched film enough to get an understanding
of what they did. I didn't want to get stuck
into saying, okay, it's this is that I'm umping things
that are not right because I don't write. I done
looked at something and got that. What I did a
lot of is I just studied the person that I

(59:09):
was going against. What how did they set when they
would pass block if they gave something away? You know,
I keep references in this like, we had a running
back that we went against in Buffalo, and dude, every
time it was a run he lined up at full back.
He was fullback, and if he did his hand like this,
we knew it was a run. I don't know why

(59:31):
he did, but it was a hundred and we knew
it was either army air force if it was. If
he didn't do that, it was a pass. I think
it was just a twitch that he got to get
ready to block. And I'm talking about just literally, you know,
hand on the ground, this one here and this hand
that's rested right here like this. He would just roll. Dude,

(59:55):
just like wave it and we like yo, and somebody
I didn't see it. Somebody else is like, yeah, look
at the running back's hand. The fullback, look at his hand.
If he's in it and he do this, it's a
run in his mind.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
He getting ready to file on somebody, right, He getting
ready getting ready. Yeah, I'm telling on yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
We got.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Eric horn one O one donated five dollars. The problem
is these young heads don't have no ogs to show
them what not to do. I would say with this you,
I wouldn't need to be in the meeting room because
I was at Cleveland, Ramsey would be trying to tell

(01:00:36):
nobody no wrong stuff. He's trying to give them the good.
He's trying to give them the He don't want to
be out there looking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Crazy again, though, I'm trying to give you this as
a player for what your coach saying that you're gonna
listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
That's what I'm saying. But we're gonna listen to when
Jalen's getting the I know for sure, because at the
same time, when you do come in there, Jalen, you
would want to come and hope that everything, all the
knowledge you know is all good. But what we do
here is how we do it here. You know what
I'm saying, Like your defense is all the way that
it was done in Jacksonville or in the Rams, that's

(01:01:11):
all good. All that knowledge is good because you know football,
You've seen a lot of football before. But this is
the way that we run the stuff here. You know
what I'm saying, Like all just the different checks, the
different motions, But I know I know this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
You have coaches like you said, Hey, this is how
we did it at so and so. Well, that's how
you did it there. You're not there no more, we're
not there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yes, you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
You can't tell me as a linebacker how I need
to take on a block every play because every person
I go with isn't going to try and block me
the same way. Yes, I know where I need to
get and then that scheme to get to my position.
I can take that on. However it is that I
need to take it on, the same thing when you

(01:01:55):
go to big one receivers, how receivers release. You can't
tell a receiver he has to release a way every
time that corner that he's going against maybe so skilled
that ain't gonna work. No, they have to bump step
and not even take off on the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
You better let that line.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
This corner is somebody that got hands and he gonna
put them on you if you go like you're just
trying to take off from the line and that much
of that that is just coaching. It's coaching, and they're
trying to make either players stick to straight coaching and
not having that nuance like you said, of having someone

(01:02:35):
that played the position in the league that did it.
Why automatic buy in because now I can see what
you're doing. Oh yeah, you're gonna have to do this.
Coach Coach Buss was prime example.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
He's like, Okay, look, when you're doing this, I understand
it's going to be hard, but if you're able to
maybe try this, you can do it. Big thing that
he told me, dude, is stack your cleats hi low high.
Why because when the ground gets slipper, especially at where
we play it home, you need to stagger it because

(01:03:07):
if they're all sitting at the same level, you don't
dig into the ground. Dude, I stop slipping, like up
to seventy eighty percent of the time. Bro, I'm like,
oh cool. The same thing like with Okay, you gotta
you gotta, you gotta play a you gotta play head
up on the tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Okay, you got a two guy, but you got the
sea gap.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to
play the sea gap light, which means I'm not going
to step into it. I'm gonna play it. If he
steps that way, I can get to it. But I'm
already lined up head up. I'm worried about him hooking
me and just cutting me off and making the corner short. Okay,
play it like this, think about this and just read

(01:03:48):
him back off a little bit. Why Why back off?
Because it gives you room to see what he's doing
instead of trying to be up on him close and
now you can't see and it don't matter where you
move because you're guessing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
That's good coaching tips. That's what coaches give you. We're
missing right now on this staff, and we've been missing
for a while. You ain't lying. D J Rock two
one three, Debo will be a better coach. Deebo will
be a better coach. Get in these dudes as pause.
Fire everybody, including stop it, Roonie, time to go young.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Listen, bro listen, hey, listen. We appreciate y'all for coming.
Y'all getting out of control right now, but we really
appreciate y'all. We gonna get this moving, okay, y'all, y'all
just going, y'all going hand right now. We appreciate y'all
watching us though, Okay, thank you. We want y'all to
come back be here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Not Roonie is not Rooneye. We gonna give you everything
we go. We're gonna give you honest opinions. You like
it or you don't like it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
It's how we feel. It's what we feel needs to
be done. Joe Yo, appreciate you guys. Man, make sure
you guys like a subscribe come back. We'll be here
tomorrow after or a Monday night game. Let's get it
and were out

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
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