November 25, 2025 • 60 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Christian McCaffrey and the San Francisco 49ers defeated Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers. Later, they react to Shedeur Sanders being named the Week 13 starter for the Cleveland Browns, Ja'Marr Chase apologizing for spitting on Jalen Ramsey, and much more action from Week 12 of the 2025 NFL season!
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00:00 - Intro
02:20 - 49ers beat Panthers
25:37 - Ja’Marr Chase Apologizes
29:15 - Shedeur Sanders named Browns QB1
36:00 - High School coach shoves player
39:08 - Eagles fan calls police on Philly OC
41:40 - Deebo & Joe Defensive Player of the Week
43:37 - Steelers-Bills Preview
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host James
Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden.
Please make sure you guys like him subscribe. How you're
doing the day.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Joe Gray, brother, Debo doing great?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You know, another day on the set talking to my
good man, speaking this football.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You know what we do?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yes? You know what before we get started with the football,
is it Joe? Joe, Joe. We went four for four
on that prize we did last night.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Man, that's my fault. That's my part for questioning you.
That's my bad questioning. I was worried about Kittle. I
got it done.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I Dann had to like strain you up so you
ain't playing on you boys.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm riding with you now, Debo, I'm riding with you
for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We took twenty five and May two seventy five.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
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couple of y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
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You don't want to miss nothing. Hey, Prize Picks. We
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
To my man, your man, Christian McCaffrey got in the
first drive, so hey, that was solid, solid dude.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Forty nine ers get out there and like you said, man,
the first five plays is McCaffrey. He get a run
in three. I think it was a catch for another
another three. That was a nice tackle by what's his name,
what the dude name mean? Uh, Moraine, something like that. Yeah, dude, Merrick,
(01:46):
that was it, Merrick. Third down, he got ten.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
They was giving him the ball every He had eight
touches in the first drive.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Dude, I think he had nine. I mean they was
he had nine on the fours field. Nine of the
fifteen I believe was what was all was touched. The
ball was touched by him, you know. And actually on
that thirty ten, Merrik, he was just trying to disguise
too hard. If he had stayed closer, he could have
he could have stopped on that. Man. They ended up
driving down the field. I think party, party, party, he
(02:20):
went like six six seven.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Was a lot of dump downs, a lot of checks.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
A lot of checks, a lot of dump downs. They
was just staying on the time, dude, They was really
staying ahead of the clock. They were staying on time.
They get down there and purty'all think he hit Jenny's
for twelve twelve yards.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
That's when he broke all them tackles. And that was
the one play horn in them. They were trying to
push the ball out and they was being a little
too worried about that and let the man break the tackles.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
In school, you got a shorter tackle first before you
go to punching that balls, and.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You got that was his first bad That was his
first bad play by man, My man j C made.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Up for that for show. Oh yeah, definitely definitely. Carolina
get out there. They got a positive to play on
the first down, but I think they got.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
A holding call on the second. They end up behind
the change.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
They punt the ball right back to the forty nine ers,
and that man, that man Pardy get out there and
say hey, pick Warren went.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
On, Hey, that was That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
A lot of the plays they've been running against the Stellers,
those bang eights, you know what I'm saying, Like, they
get the play action and then he runs the bang eights.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That was man to man coverage.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That was a great route route recognition for him to
make that play. So Horn was balling, bro that was
like great man and man coverage, right, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Like they're making plays. They're actually like even if he
hadn't made the place, just make that for sure. Yes, yes,
we going ahead. We get out there. What Carolina gets
out there and they get like was it five three?
Something like that? And then on that third down Bryce
scrambles for seven more? Thank you? Anyway, they get to
(04:02):
they get the first and go after one and he
gets picked by Brown. Why are we even throwing the
ball right there? You just got there. It's first and
one when he but like he why did he throw
the ball at all? He could have walked it into
the end zone, you know what I'm saying. He threw
it back across his body a little bit into the
end zone.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That was just not a good play by him. I
feel you they should have ran the ball. They should
have gave it to Rico or Chubble, one of them
too should have got the rock. But even when he's
scrambling out get to the pylon, you could have walked
it in for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And you just threw a damn pick.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Making sense to get the ball. They get the ball again,
they're staring ahead, ahead of the change. They get to
a fourth and one, they get like three I think
it was, you know, with a with a touch push
that was a lot of yards on a simple that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Wouldn't even quarterback quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, he just found the gap. You know, party ended
up scrambling for nine on the second and seven, they
get the first down, They get to the third down again.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And your boy gets picked going damn near the same
kind of route the man hosts play these dbs. My
man was named Mike Jackson. Do he gotta get it
out faster? These dvs just what they do is a
little bit, it's a little late, you know what I'm saying.
But these dbs at the end of the day are
making great plays on the ball. They're like they're they're
(05:32):
turning into the receiver so the quarterback he can lead
it a little bit more. But I'm not going to
take away anything from these dbs that are going high
point in the ball, you know what I'm saying, Like
not touching the receiver, running, running, running, not using their arms.
You know what I'm saying like it's just straight feet.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, they was moving, man. There. The defense was doing
their thing out there, especially Carolina's defense. Dude, they was
doing they thing. I ain't gonna lie. Forty nineers defense
did well too, but it was going up against a
little little smaller animal than than what they got. They
got over there, and yes, friend, dude, yeah, Carolina, get
out there. They go three and out because the receiver
(06:10):
just totally Yeah, you're not you're not good enough, but
your team is.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
You know, when you're playing with the Panthers like that,
your team isn't that good to be just missing the
normal catches you got all that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta have that. That's that's simple, clean
and you got to make some catch.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
They're not supposed to quarterback out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That's hurting your quarterback guy, right, yeah, bro, forty nine
ers get out there. McCaffrey fumbles the rock they got
so lucky with you see what is up with the panic?
Why is everybody just falling all over the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We had it fall on it just just drop, just drop,
just just drop.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Trying to get there. He came in there dropped, but
dB looking crazy, right, he he just know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You gotta just get down with just calm down, calm down,
fall on the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Then they get to the second down and party like
you listen, I know y'all missed. You know what I'm saying.
That that fumble recovery, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna
give you this. He throws his third pick second time.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Brother, brother, Brother.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
This right here, Debo was a masterclass and playing cornerback.
This mass has deep thirds, Debot, and George Kittle is
the tight end on that side.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So he's blocking. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And once you block, you can look across the field
and try to find work. You might have an over,
you might have a dagger. And he went and found
the dagger and went and picked that ball off. Bertie's
not thinking that the cornerback on the deep third on
the other side of the field is gonna come across the.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Field and pick off your dagger. That's not happening.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So horn falling like just like that's spanning man coverage,
and then that's zone coverage. You knowing exactly what you're
supposed to do. Your assignment is court Kittle? Now, oh
he's blocking knock at across with some more work and
make them go steal something like that play right there.
I was like, man, this dude is not only a
man making the play on the bang a pick undercutting.
(08:09):
Now you're just playing this his own. Now this is
when I could use my eyes. I can read the quarterback,
you know what I'm saying. So God that it was
just I was so happy to see it because me
be in the quarterback, I know what you're supposed to
be looking at. I know that you have Okay, you
have thirds here. Now your next thing is coming across.
You can go steal something. And he went and did it.
I'm like, dog, bravo, bravo, jay Z or.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No question, Carolina, get the ball back, the offensive horn
gone ahead. He make a nice run for eleven after
a little shot pass. Then was it downly he ran
for what was it about eight, weaving in and out
of that thing something like that, and then four plays
you know, they get a what was it? They ended
(08:51):
up stopping them in the defense. You know they they
held them to what was they go? They go, yeah,
they go three to seven. Saint Fran get back out there.
Second down he hit Kittle for that good twenty five
and then then yeah, then he tries to throw two
(09:12):
more picks.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like in the zone. He almost picked that joint off
with a horn, almost had he.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Over kittle due.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And then the next joint man, it was highly killed.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Buddy.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Was he ran that curl route for him and he
good thing he threw it outside because he would have
picked that.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Too, right, he would have. Yeah, if he didn't they
didn't misread each other, yeah, he would, he would have
got it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So I'm like, God, dang, he but Birdie, you out here,
don't you out here trying to give give up the money?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So Carolina holds him to a field goal. They go
up ten to three. Carolina get back out there, and
forty nine ers force to three and out. So it
is what it is. Forty nine get the rock back.
I think it was what they.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It was right before half times they kept on dumping
it off to McCaffrey.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, there was like three they did, like three players
or whatever. Halftime ended up. I appreciate that though, Yeah,
I knew that I was.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They was giving McCaffrey all them.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yards, yes, sir, halftime tar baby yo. Carolina gets the
ball and fumbles on the kickoff return. Bro, Like they
got lucky the dude, they're fun. They got so lucky
he was able to recover that. Dude, Like that would
have been a disaster. They could have got that rock back.
(10:32):
It would have been over with over for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Because the Panthers they didn't have no type of real offense.
So if you keep giving the ball back, you saw
your defense keep turning it over getting the ball to you,
and you're not doing nothing with it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, they get out there first play, dude makes a
nice run for about seventeen. Then they get a holding call.
It's first and what twenty Now they end up not
being able to convert. dB made a nice player on that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
's have a great play and the man Yeah yeah,
forty nine ers get the ball back.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Here go that man Mccatherye again, he goes for twelve again.
This whole drive they just basically able to stay ahead.
And the change they go, they go like thirteen plays
eighty yards. They finish it off.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
With a twelve years to McCaffrey.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Just easy. Yeah, they go up. Was it thirteen to seventeen?
Now he gets seventeen during that drive. I think that's
when they lost horn. I think He ended up going
out with a concussion during the drive, so he was
no longer going to be on defense for him. That
that was a big I think that was a big hit,
(11:49):
especially when you're you know, you're a guy that's frush
and you ain't got him out there covering. You don't
have more time to get to the quarterback, Carolina, get
back out there. Second is short. He gives im second down,
He gives me a short little pass that he's able to.
Herbert is able to turn the fourteen, and then Herbert
gets a run for like five second down. It's Herbert
(12:10):
again for like ten, and then it's Hvered again for six.
There was a lot of Hubbard, no question bro, and
then they're able to hit u.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think it was mc millan for twenty nine yards.
That was the best pass. That was a That was
the quarterbacks best pass.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, we're back in. We're back in the back in it.
They went for two. Yeah, I would have kept that.
Never taken homes off the board on the white not scoring.
We haven't been able to get in here. Let's just
get the let's just get it's nine to seventeen now again,
forty nine ers get back out there. He comes with
(12:52):
Catherine and Kittle. Oh you know, they get I think
it was they get to like a first and ten
at the fifteen yard line and back to back place.
They actually stuffed McCaffrey for a loss. They ended up
being able to hold him to a field goal. So
it's twenty to nine now and Carolina get back out
(13:17):
there and the like the first play, d dB like
almost picked him off if he could have held onto it.
But now it's Coker. Coker take a short one like eighteen.
The next place is Cocher for nine. Then I think, uh,
it was the second down, and this was basically the
(13:38):
end of it. It was Browns and I think.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Second bick when he went to try to throw that dig,
he broke on that joint so clean, y'all.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He see he was trying to push him off. He
held onto a little bit. I mean, no harm, no file.
It was a little was a little it was a
little to I mean he was trying to push off
to now he had the arm force.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
If you rabbit like, if you push it out, that's
why you keep put it. You're trying to push it.
You're literally fully extending your arms to push me. So
I'll be looking at that the same way too, Dbo,
Like why you is? Why is it okay for you
to push me? So if you get a push and
I get a little hand on you and they don't
call nothing, well that's what it is. It is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
That's what it is. That's what it is. Forty nine
ers get out there and they get a delay a
game on that second down, end up making them have
to go three and out. They didn't give Carolina the
ball back, you know, second down down and he goes
for like eleven and the next play they hit like fourteen,
and then they get fifteen, but it's an illegal touching
(14:38):
because battle Bomb can't do that. You can't do that
and come back in and get that thing. And then
after that Young got sacked for what negative but seven
eight ten something like that. He lost eight or ten
yards something like that. They ended up settling for a
field goal to tempt and they miss it over there.
That's all. Yeah, it's done it, don't you know, it
(15:00):
don't matter what you do after that. Like like this
right here for me was like it was like an
all around team win. More like defense, I think for
San fran the defense stepped up for the most part
when party through those interceptions, Bro, Like the one interception,
(15:20):
I believe they got nothing. The other interception they may have.
They may have got a field goal on one of them,
and then.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
The other one they were as they were to pick
they was.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And then yes the other and yeah, the one interception.
It was a back to back, so they went to.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Pick for a pick, a punt and a field goal.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
They gave up three and got and got an interception back. Like,
that's how your defense is supposed to respond.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
In San Francisco's defense only gave up what like seventy
yards Russian. I think Bryce had what maybe one hundred
and seventy yards passing two interceptions along with that. But McCaffrey, dude, McCaffrey,
deal with McCaffrey does, Like that's what it came down
almost ninety yards rushing, another fifty three receiving. Kittle went
(16:19):
out there and got him six for almost eighty. You know,
pretty yo, he got to clean up what he's doing, bro,
because if you know, he left a couple of picks
out there too.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It was he could threw a smooth five picks, easy
five pick day.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like you playing against the different competition that got a
better offense. This is not going to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Turn on, not at all.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
For me, it was Christian McCaffrey is amazing, and the
ways that they used him, getting him the ball, like
I felt like I was watching the little league game almost.
It's like get the ball to your best player, you
know what I'm saying, Like he's going to make something
happen for us. So they kept on getting him the
rock pretty every time he threw the ball. You saw
he was zero for two for two picks if the
ball went past fifteen yards. So he was doing a
(17:04):
lot of checkdowns, a lot of making sure, you know
what I'm saying, staying ahead of the sticks getting the
ball to McCaffrey. But for me, he can't. You gotta
protect that rock. You can't be in any of those bangings.
You gotta throw it to where your receiver can get
it or nobody can get it, you know what I'm saying.
So I mean he got to definitely tighten up. Their
defense plays amazing. They don't just being able to step
up when your quarterback he's putting you in positions where
(17:26):
you keep having to get on the field and you answer,
You answer the call, you get another pick. You know
what I'm saying, you something. You give up a field goal,
you give up a punt. You know what I'm saying,
you forcing the punt. You're just going up there and
answering the bell. So I was I loved the defense.
I loved how Christian McCaffrey was playing. But Birdie just
had me looking a little crazy with any pass that
went over fifteen yards that if you didn't know if
(17:47):
it was going to be a picker or not. So
he just got tightened up with that. But their team
is solid. Yeah, he was gunslinging.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So at the end of the game there Jenny's got
punched in his manhood by uh Trevon, you know, cheap shot.
We can't show it, but uh what do you what's worse?
Spit on or being pushed in which one? Uh damn
(18:15):
what I was saying, spit spit you want to go.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Because I'm just flustered.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm not trying the level of respect of just messed
up just expected for me.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
The pain of being hit is going to be worse,
but disrespect of being spit on can't be compared. That's what.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Okay, that's why I was trying to say, because I'm like,
if you get hit in the you get hit in
the prod. You can't react old initially because you're hurting
like you you you're hurting like I got it right there.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You know what I'm saying, Well, you get spit on, right,
I got I gotta get you. Listen, man, So my son, right, listen.
So my son he did that once, well he did
it like three times when he's like three four years old, right,
and on purpose. You can't explain to a three four
year o why you don't do that. So the first
time you did it was like an accident, you know
what I'm saying. I folded down. I'm like, oh you know,
(19:12):
and you know he kind of.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Know how to get down right.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So the next time it was the same day. You know,
down their memories now, don't So the same day he
came over, he fired on me. Right, I'm like, hey, no,
don't do that. That hurt, right, don't do that that hurt.
So a little while later he comes back and he
go to fire on me again. So I waited, I said,
I told you don't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So when he goes to walk around, I walks up
to him and I popp him right in here, right,
and I said, that's why you don't do it hurts
you set him down as a How old that dude? Dude?
He was like three four. And this is the thing, dude,
a three four year old cannot understand. The reason I
got the most understand reasoning discipline into my kids between
(20:04):
the ages of like two and six because they couldn't
understand me explaining to them. They don't have the capacity,
but they understand reward. So if I tell you to
do something and to not do it, he may not
even understand right from wrong, but he will understand reward.
He will understand pain. That's one thing you understand. Like
(20:24):
you going, you getting little Johnny and he's going over
there and trying to stick his finger in that socket
or stick a key in that socket, or stick something
in that socket, and you run over there and you're
telling him no, no, no, no no, and you pull him away.
And now he runs back over there and you're telling
him no, no, no, no, no no. You pull him away,
and you keep doing that. It just now became a game.
He thinks you're playing a game. No, no, no, no,
(20:45):
I'm trying to stave your life. So me, I tell
you once, After I tell you once, I correct you.
That correction then is pain. He's like, you know what
if I do that, I get pain. He don't know
that if he sticks that key in that socket, he's
going to die. But he understands the pain. So you
can't sit here and explain to a you know, a
two to six year old that you can't do this
(21:06):
because it's gorristial life risk reward. That's easy, dude, it's easy.
And if you don't do that, you get kids that
grow up into adults who don't listen, don't pay attention,
aren't productive members of society, and everything to other fact.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
But yeah, I'm doing the same thing with my kids.
It's right from wrong, and I'm being able to like
if you do something, if you when you walk into
the crib and you're doing everything the right way, I'm
never never going to be punishing you. But if you
do stuff that's wrong, you know what I'm saying, I'm
going to definitely let you know what it is so
that oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Dude, listen, I'm I do not spare the rod as
they say, Well, I haven't had to do nothing with
the rod in a long time. You know. One actually,
James was a little little little tougher than my youngest Henry.
You know, Henry, he couldn't take it. He was like,
uh uh nah, I don't want none of that. James
probably you know he took his last one was probably
(22:01):
about twelve and thirteen. He was way before that. If
I come into if I come and I got a
question to ask and it could possibly be uh some
some whooping behind it, Oh, Henry, go drop the dime.
He ain't taking the whooping. I feel that. I feel that, yeah, dude.
(22:21):
But uh the Panthers, they gotta they got a situation
over there. What you the quarterback Bryce Young? You think
you think it's time for them to uh maybe move
on from me.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I don't think Bryce Young is that good. And that's
not no disrespect. He's a little small sometimes with his arm.
He's just not making all of the plays. They have
a What they need to do is lean on the
running game. Rico Dobblin Hubbard is good that that that
rookie receiver that they have is solid.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But so you say, it's time to I think.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So I'm wish you I would agree, not I would,
I want, I want, I actually I one hundred percent
agree that it's time to move on. Like you got
to realize you you a first round pick, not just
the first round pick. You were he orst pick. Like
your improvement from year to year has to be greater
(23:15):
than what it is they want you to be. You know,
a franchise, real life quarterback, and your improvements year to
year haven't been that. I think his completion rate is
still only like what maybe sixty two, sixty three percent
something like that, and that's only up from fifty nine
or sixty his rookie year. Like you look at you know,
(23:39):
you look at these Drake may dude, what is he
like seventy or something completion? Then your franchise quarterbacks like
you know, Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, jos these guys are
in the upper sixties, Jared goff All that I think, Yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't see a when I look at him.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No, And there's no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But sometimes like when you're like you said, your number
one overall pick, there's you've had your time.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
You're being able to go out there.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But like you, when we're talking about franchise quarterbacks the
US are making sixty million dollars a year, would you
want Bryce Young as your quarterback at sixty million?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
At thirty?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like, I Don'm not thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Like I'm just trying to figure out, like once you
get that good time to see what what you have,
then it's like we got to be able to I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
He's going to be able to win you a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So like if that's the path, you know, what I'm
saying is that I don't think it's always Yeah, so
it's not going to be the path with with with
him being the quarterback. Oh okay, yeah yeah, but every
every every whole path is to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh yeah, no question about it. So Jamar Chase, he
said he was sorry for spitting. What he did was wrong.
Can we put that up? Can we let us stand here? Thank?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He said a lot?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What do you what do you think it is? Joe?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
The ceiling?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So I'm gonna go ahead and take off for you,
So give me a give me a this right here,
this right here was like almost a perfect apology, okay,
like almost it was good like it was good. Whoever
his team is that he had writ this up. They
did it good. They did a good job writing this up. Okay,
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but it wasn't perfect. Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He apologized to the Bengals, He apologized to the stillers,
He apologized to the NFL, He apologized to the coaches,
He apologized to the teammates, He apologized.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
To the fans. But oh he had it. Listen, listen.
He had a small slip, but one person he forgot
in the small and listen, listen, it was just one.
I'm just saying it was a small slip up. Then
it was a big slip. So the small slip up
is where he says, Uh, this has been a tough
season with some incredibly hard losses. We've all been frustrated.
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But instead of stepping up with calm and class and leadership,
I let my having to sit it what he said,
I let my having to sit out yesterday whatever Bactually
he said, him having to sit out yesterday made his
actions unexcusable and it won't happen again. So you're telling
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me you having to sit out made was what major
actions unexcusable? No, you sitting out had you lose a
half a million dollars. But that right there was just
that was just a little slip. The big slip was
finally I want to apologize to the fans. No, finally
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should have been you apologizing to Jayleen Ramsey. That should
have been your family. I highly doubt you called him personally,
and if you did, you still should have put him
in there. Because you made this public public statement, you
should have let the public see that too.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So yep, you like you said debo, that was eloquently
written out. The he said, apologize to everybody but the
main person that you spin on. Right and the end
of the day, I think you know you said, oh,
I'm because you set out the game. Your game checks
for four hundred thousand dollars a game, so you know
what I'm saying, put you two games, you would have
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missed eight hundred thousand, you know what I'm saying. So
that was five he missed five and five and something, Okay,
five hundred thousand. So I'm like, basically you're just saying
that it was the money part. I just wish as
a person you would have just been like you spin
on Jaalen Ramsey. There's nothing but words y'all are always
in the in the in the heat of the battle,
being able to go. So you apologizing the fans, people
that wear your jersey, the coaches that, but not the
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person that you actually spit on. That was just literally
y'all are playing against y'all are in the heat of
the moment. You know what I'm saying, going at it.
He did nothing out of line where what was what
to cause him to spit You know what I'm saying, Like, that's.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Just it ain't nothing. It ain't nothing you could do
that cause caused me to It Ain't nothing you could
say because he didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We saw, we saw no actions that like, it's nothing.
So I'm just this is just an attempt to try
and hopefully them reduce the fine because that's the only
thing that could happen. But that's not going to happen
because he already served the whole thing. And on top
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of that, the finally you doubled back with the I
don't take anyone wearing my jersey for granted. Hey, I
just lost half a million. Make sure y'all keep wearing
my jersey.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I'm trying to make it out kind of make I
need to have any of that backpack.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I need that back.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's it, I hope, but I hope your mom man,
like real talk that the spitting party, you know that,
but we were talking about it. There's no scenario where
should be spending on anybody.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I think honestly he does feel You know what I'm
saying bad you gotta you gotta be feeling crazy. People
are talking about it, and the way that everybody says
spitting is not acceptable.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I just wish you would apologize to.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Demand that he spit on in the joint, like, hey, listen, man,
sometimes things not said are more important than things said.
And also, should let's get to these good old brownies man,
(29:27):
Gil Dealing Gabriel was clear, but should we'll start versus
the forty.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Nine ers you think, I'm very, very very happy about that.
I'm excited. I'm happy for I'm happy for Shador, I'm
happy for the Browns, I'm happy for just Cleveland. I'm
happy for Miles Garrett, I'm happy for Denzel Ward, I'm
happy for the Defense of Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm happy for the city of Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And this is no and I love dealing Gabriel too,
but I wouldn't have wanted him to come back and
to be able to come back, and he would have
to like if they would try to start him or
anything like that, just for the crowd being able to boohm,
you know what I'm saying, First incomplete pass. He doesn't
deserve that he had a shot. He had his time.
He has six games to play, you know what I'm saying.
Then he had his concussion, and then now Shadore's time
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to go out there and play. And I'm just happy
now it just is what it is. He has his
time that he can go out there practice, he can
get all of his reps. Now he's gonna play against
the forty nine ers and then we'll see, you know
what I'm saying. Hopefully he just gets better and better
each game. I'm not going to say like the last
one when he was eleven for twenty for two oh nine,
that like that was just the drop that oh my god,
he's the best.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Player in the world.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, but it's progress, it's something to move forward, it's
something to build on. He could still you know what
I'm saying, from the first game four for sixteen to
eleven for twenty to now let's see what we can do.
See if we can not have an interception. You know
what I'm saying. If Jerry Judy doesn't fumble that ball,
that's another drive that maybe who knows what happens, you
know what I'm saying, we could he could have scored again.
So just being able to keep the ball, just keep
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the main thing, the main thing. I'm happy now that
he is naming the starters. He don't have to worry
about outside noise. He's gonna be able to his plays
in his first fifteen he's gonna be able to meet
with the receivers and all that extra work that you
got to do, do it. You know what I'm saying,
This is your time to be able to go out
there and perform. So I just want him to lock
in and keep that main thing, the main thing. And
you don't have to don't this way, I would tell
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usha door, we we're here for you. You don't have
to project yourself out there. We know what's going on,
we know about just you getting a little bit of
practice reps. So you just go out there and grind
and ball and just you know, you got a great defense.
You know what I'm saying, be complementary of your guys.
You know what I'm saying, because I don't. I know,
some people just don't like how his swag and just
the way that he carries himself. Sometimes bump that if
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you're balling, you're balling. But I just wanted to let
him know, like we got your back for all that.
But I just don't want him to give haters reasons
to be you know what I'm saying, just on his
net for no reason.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Do you think that this was actually Kevin Stefanski's decision
to start should or or do you think that it
was other people who made the decision or made sure
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he made the decision to start.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Should I think if he would have tried to come
back and start dealing Gabriel, then it would have just
been all hell would have broke loose.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's not what I asked you, Joe, What did you
ask me?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I asked you, do you think it was his decision
alone to start the door or did someone else make
sure he made that? If I don't, I would say
that somebody else. I would think it was above his head.
If he had to pick, I think he would have
had Dylan Gabriel probably start I just me personally, I
think because I know he likes he likes dealing. That's
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his that's his that's his man. So if he personally,
I think he would have started dealing. But I don't
think logically walking into that locker room talking to other
professionals talking, look talking to your team, looking miles, gear
them dudes in the eyes. You can't go in there
and start Dylan Gabriel once he comes out of a
protocol from what you've seen so far, and now we
have Shador coming off the win and no fucking rookies
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had since.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Ninety five, So he's going to start a game.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Dylan has six get his man.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
This is going to be a second game starting, like
he could least be able to you know what I'm saying,
give him some time. So you can't just take him
out and put it in Dylan like he was fucking
Tom Brady or like Patrick Mahomes just had a concussion
and came back. No, we're talking about Dylan Gabriel. You
know what I'm saying. He hasn't done too much, not knocking,
but like now we have another rookie that's the quarterback
that just won his last game. Let's see what we
can do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So, yeah, I one percent agree with you, because if
that was the case, he would have had more of
a response instead of I'm just worried about this game.
We're talking about this game. When they asked if he
would start next week, yeah, it is was not his
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decision to alone like they're like, yo, you going here
and tell these dudes that Dylan is starting. They're not
going to be happy about this, and you may lose
the locker room. I think so for me personally, I'm
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starting on one throw and that was that fifty yard
bomb on the money because I know for a fact
Dylan Gabriel cannot do that. He can barely get the
swing pass out that ended up going for sixty six.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
H Yeah, d bo you I'm picking up what you're putting.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Down, hey, matter of fact, picking up what you're putting down.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
They said a high school coach shove the opposing quarterback
on the side with che.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Listen, bro I don't listen. I don't. I don't know
exactly what, but I'm gonna tell you right now, Hey,
ain't no way it was. It was a black kid,
I promise you because the game kept going on, and.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
They said the court and in the quarterback look and
they said, we got it. Yeah, hold on, hold on,
just look that sit down. Can you make it bigger?
I can't make it. And then yeah, the quarterback get
kicked ou because he threw the ball on the thumb.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
He was all the smoke. He like, what's the coach?
Oh my god? They said he actually the coat. They
kicked the kid out and kept the game on the sideline. Man, listen, listen,
my daddy broke off like he just that that game
ain't finishing. He gave he gave him a good stiff
(35:45):
arm too. Look all he had to do was move.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
He's not Look he put his hand out there to
the pit buddy the contact and look laughing like it's sweet,
trying to walk off like he ain't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Not bruh. Hey, the sideline. He couldn't have stayed there.
They listen, they had game over with football.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Though you're grown man, you just put your hands.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Are you out of your mind?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
This is hey, this is the thing man, Like a
lot of people will killed for anything.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Very few people will die for something. I'm ready and
willing to die for mine. There's nothing that goes on.
I'm doing whatever I want to do because I'm going
to die for it. I'm not a bunch of people
kill for step and ship. How many people willing to
go in there and die for something, die for somebody?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I know you are. That's how you get killed. He's tripping.
I mean, that's you got.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
There're supposed to be dudes that are supposed to be
teaching them like leadership or to throw the hand trying
to protect the man from running onto the sideline right there.
You're supposed to catch them, you know what I'm saying.
Like the end of the day, we know when you're
playing against other teams, it is what it is, but
you're never really trying to You're not trying to that's
just dirty, do you know what I'm saying. You're not
really trying to just harm people outside of the game.
(37:16):
Once you get outside of the lines, it's all love.
That's why when you finish the games, it's always you
tap up, you meet at the center, you pray together.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
At the end of the day, we're playing a game
that we love and we know it's a violent, violent,
violent game, but you're not really trying to do weird things.
That's just like as a person, you just like, that's
just dirty. There's certain things that you don't do. You
don't hit, like, what are you doing? And then you're
trying to walk off and act like you're supposed to
be leaders of men and trying to teach these dudes
how to be the best representation of themselves. And you're
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out here looking crazy and no one that like somebody's
parents obviously, will come outside of it.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And you're trying to example you want to set terrible.
That ain't the example you want to set. That's crazy.
I hate seeing stuff like that, man, because they leading
Joe Joe Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe Joe Joe. No. I'm like,
if we put that, he going to jail. What hey, bro,
(38:12):
this is what I guess. The Philly dude is going
viral for calling the police and saying there's a terrorist
operating in the Eagles facility offensive court se bro, Hey,
we got the video. Man showed the video.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I would like to report a terrorist operating out of Philadelphia.
The Novacare Complex center goes by the name Kevin Patulo.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yes, the emergency he is operating.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
You need to look up there his current whereabouts his
A T and T Stadium in Dallas, Texas. Yeah, just
take your time whenever you get to it. But just
remember the name Kevin Patulo, Kevin Patulo, thank you for
your health today.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Please. He needs to be.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Calling Debo straight to jail him. You're going to jail.
What's going to jail?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
You're playing with nine one one?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Funny?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
No, hey, that that that's funny until they come and
grab you, until you're in the fort Nelson like all
these like all these kids is doing this? Man, y'all
going up to people who are unaware of what you're doing.
Do a skit where somebody is aware. It's it's somebody
fat doing that. People out here, some people losing their
lives when.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
They're playing with people too much.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Man. Some people not some people not friendly. Some people
don't like to you.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Don't ain't nobody always.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Playing when somebody's been going through that day, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
You don't know what I got on me. You don't
know if I'm a kid seal carry person and you're
running up on me with something that looks like it
can hurt me or take my life.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I'm gonna layer trying to go viral.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You're going to jail and hell.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Going to jail and hell is crazy.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Like, come on, man, y'all know my buddy on that
joint playing with that terrorist attack calling now one one
terrorists to jail.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
As soon as they realize who you is, y'all going
ahead pick him up. Hey, let's run a video one
more time so you can see a fan. I snitch.
I tell you I snitch.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I tell you.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You understand I ain't. I ain't. I ain't having no
part to little Joe. Who your defensive player of the week, Bro, you.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Know exactly who my defensive player of the week is.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Let me see who it is. Let me let me
see who your defensive player of the week. Let me see.
I don't know. I might I might have somebody.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
No, no, no, who you got, Who you got I'm
looking at who you get it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Getting?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
We won House Garrett generational talent for the Cleveland Browns.
Our Cleveland Browns eighteen sacks right now, three sacks of
the last game team to four spouse Garrett, Yeah House,
Garrett defensive player of the week, and he stood on
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business are you sure? And Costefanski gave him the game ball.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
You know, you know, I listen, I ain't gonna lie
to you until he did what he did.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I was going with Will Anderson, that's not a bad choice, Houston.
He was going crazy. But he went and did what
he did, So I gotta I gotta give it to him.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I gotta give it to him. I gotta give it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
To a debo. So I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, but I was the thing I was looking at.
I was trying to see his name on the stat
sheet with the Stillers when we played, so I didn't
see nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Did it because you Yeah, we ain't you know, we
ain't too worried about it.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Hey, let that worry about everybody else. Everybody else can
worry about it. So I'm saying is to say, Sack Record,
you just got to hope he get it before he
faced the Pig Steelers in that last game.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Because but hold up, Debo, what about you gotta we're
gonna talk about what.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
You all right, listen, listen, listen. Okay, I'm just saying
he ain't pissedl drop on us. Only thing I will
be worried about like I said, was a defense, and
you personally thought I was being too hard.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I really really did.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
So I went on ahead did some research and I
pulled up some stuff and what did I send you on?
What did chat GPT say, what did they take?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I really couldn't believe that you sent me this because
I'm looking from just out like watching it. It doesn't
look I mean sometimes like the open the big plays,
the gas is the not jamming two, you know what
I'm saying, the seams so the chunk plays that we're
getting it. I just was like, but we've been but
don't break. You know what I'm saying. But I didn't
know it was I'm tired of it still. I'm telling
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you sent me this, and it showed me it's too
much bend. It's so much bend. I didn't even know
you said. This is the worst still is defense we've
had since nineteen eighty eight. And it's just statistically it
was numbers. You sent me this damn chap GBT thing,
and I thought.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
You was tripping.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
We are rated the worst we have ever been rated
as a defense since nineteen eighty eight. So am I
over You were not?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
You were not overacting you were not overacting.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Twenty three point nine points per game, three hundred and
sixty eight yards allowed per game, ranked twenty eighth in
NFL worst total defense ranking and franchise history pair of
multiple sources.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Okay, so when I read that out loud, you are
not free.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
When I read that out loud, you do you have
valid points?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I couldn't hear you. Could you run that one more time?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Still as defense so far, twenty three point nine points
allowed per game, three hundred and sixty eight yards per game,
ranked twenty eighth for NFL worst total defense ranking in
franchise Henry history.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
When was the.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Last time we were ranked twenty eighth? Nineteen eighty eight
and we gave up twenty three point two points game
at that? And that's that's right from chat gbtight from
chat GBT. Okay, yep, yeah, here's the thing. We could
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savage this season. So souvage we could. It's but we
have to knock off Baltimore twice.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
We have to beaten Buffalo. Miami is a win we have.
Cleveland is a win we shut. Okay, see there you go.
The only problem is Buffalo, Baltimore and Detroit Cleveland Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
See there you go being this.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Look, I'm just trying to play the games, and that's
what I'm saying with distillers. They better come out there
and we gotta we gotta win it. It's it's not
it's each individual week. But we can't look past nobody.
Hold up, Hold up, Joe, Hold up, Joe, Hold up, Joe,
Hold up, Joe. You were saying that like you were
saying that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
No no, no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I'm saying it like we need to expect you better
be you better be ready. You just can't be glazing
over people, debo.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
That's how you get. That's how you get.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
We ain't glazing over not they better not be glazing
over Now you.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Just said you like this. Oh yeah, team listen here.
You want me to keep this one hundred percent, I'm
gonna keep it one hundre. I'm gonna gep it one
hundred and fifty with you right now. We're probably lucky
if we split with Baltimore, we got Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
We need to win. It's not a must win, but
we need to but we need to win because if
we don't beat Buffalo. We have to beat Detroit. Like
that means we gotta beat Baltimore, we gotta beat Miami,
and we have to beat Detroit. We gotta get three
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in the world. We ain't got three in the row
all year.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, it's started off. It starts off Sunday. I think
we get Buffalo, Sunday, we get we get.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Look that and I'm saying I'm saying this as okay
because we already beat Cleveland. I'm talking to as a win.
I'm saying this as how Miami has performed, although they
went out there and put their foot in Buffalo's neck.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
That's what That's why I'm saying, you never know what
version of the teams you're gonna get, So we gotta
come out there and put belt the ass.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
And to be honest, brouh we're lucky, lucky if we
get to five hundred. Oh. Buffalo could be a loss,
Baltimore could be a loss, Miami could be a win,
Detroit could be a loss, and I'm hoping we can
beat Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Although the way Miles has been playing, I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Respect the honesty, that's what I'm looking for. Thank you, Okay, period,
all right.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
I feel that that that's just what it to come.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
And if that happens, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Gone if it gets under it, and the.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Only reason I would be like, Okay, I'm hoping that
we get playoffs. Don't even think about playoffs. I'm hoping
we can get to five hundred because that way, at
least Mike can save a few jobs. A couple people
gonna have to be sacrificed for the greater good or
the rest. But then again, that puts us back here
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where we're probably trying to fight for another five hundred
seas instead of a championship. So I'm like six and
one a half done another.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, I don't what you think we're gonna do, So
say say if it you're saying, bump the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
If we lose the Buffalo, we have to win the
next three. We dude, we have to win in that three.
We won three, but it was a buy in.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Between, so they had some rest. This was straight three.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
They had some We gotta go straight three. Boom boom boom.
Now physical games bro Buffalo Hook Baltimore, Henry running the ball, Jackson,
Derrick Henry, Lamar Jackson. I hope his leg ain't fully
healed by then.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I hate I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I used to want to play against everybody, strength to
wait till the game.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Now you want some Now you want somebody in there
limping in. Now you want them limping in.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah. I just want to be able to sit there
and be like, this is the Pittsburgh Stills. We at
least in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
We're gonna see a lot we can bottom.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Dude, O the Lord my standard. I'm just trying to
get there.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
You're just trying to get there.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I'm not. I'm not hoping for five hundred.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
What damn deva, how the tables have turned. But look,
we got Buffalo this weekend. We're gonna be there and
pitt So i' muna say we're gonna be there in
real time. I'm be able to look and see and
watch you while let's let's just let's hope for good though,
let's hope.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Oh, I'm always hoping for good.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I'm always hoping for good Mason, because I know it's
Mason starts just.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
So much starting. I don't I don't, I don't care,
I don't care, I don't care. Who is there? Man?
The defense gonna have to do it. Bro, the defense
gonna have to do. I don't care about the offense side. Bro,
as long as they ain't turned the ball over, and
I don't, I don't do it. I don't, I don't,
I don't care. Man like we and even if they
turn it over, we have to stop.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
We have to stop them.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
We have to put out fires. Bro. Look at look
san Fran they put out fires. Bro. Yep. If we
did that, it gave up only three on on the
on the turnovers, on the three turnovers, they would only
had say that what was it? Eighteen less points? You right?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Sudden changed?
Speaker 3 (51:21):
So the defense did like you said, if they don't school,
they don't win. So the defense could really be there.
They got to step up, especially making.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
All a half teen defense. I keep like, it's not
about it.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
We ain't got no money to get nobody on offense,
so we are relying on our.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Defense make it happen. And that's something they being. Yep.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
And we are statistically the worst defense that Pittsburgh Steelers
have had since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Bro, was you even born born in eighty nine? That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
You wasn't even born there you was a thought something
around in your dad's set. You know.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
So they was the worst defensive. This was that thirty
seven years because I'm a smooth thirty six.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Dang, it's just dude, I try to do. It's depressing, Bruh.
It's I'm hoping they hearing all this, dude, because motivation something. Bro.
I love being told what I can't do. I'm hoping
y'all hearing this. Dude. This is what you did, what
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you did before they played, the cold desire that you have. Bruh.
I'm just not dude, Ramsey, Yes, I love it, dude
that that dude. Won't it? Bro? I seen won't it?
He ain't turning nothing down. He giving you everything that
he can get you out there. I'm not letting up
on this quarterback. He got one foot in and I'm
(52:50):
umbing on it. I bet you were. If Ramsey was
right there when MICHAELA was running out there on that screen,
he might not have been that gang.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
Yeah, I love Ramsey energy. He bringing he said, he
keep bringing energy, says the tone. And now we got
herbic to swat. Everybody just got to come off that
thing and ball can't get pushed.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Back, Debo. We have to establish line.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Again. Scheme a scheme, dude, what we're doing, what they're
assigned to have to do. Yeah, sometimes they're out of position.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
The position that.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
They gotta be in ain't the one that should be in.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
But then at the same time, to d BO, the
simple ship punch and widen, you have to reroute number two.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Like Jude, just listen to the interviews, dude McQueen. He's like, Yo,
we know what's happening, and they still doing They still
getting it done. We know what's coming, they still getting
What is that telling you? We know it, you know,
we see it.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
We ain't stopping it.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
It still ain't getting done. Either somebody ain't getting it
or they ain't in position to get it done. Either
way it go. It ain't getting done. But he's like, Yo,
we know it is coming and we can't stop it, hopefully.
Like that was actually like on some interview where he
said this, you know how frustrated you gotta be to
(54:20):
say that. I know it. No, I'm saying as a
player right now, I don't I don't care. I can
say whatever I want to say. Like, dude, I thought
we were bad when we were ranked five. When I
played with the Steelers. Dude. We would talk to each
other like bru we trash. We were one one five
(54:41):
two one one. Dude, we're twenty eighth right now. I
don't even think I've ever played on the defense rank
that low.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Na, I mean either.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
And you played for them, Yeah, I did, and I
fucking did.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Defense was nice at head, the Browns defense when I
was there, nice as hell, debo being disrespectful. Our offense
needed to pick up bring you need to pick up some
you know what I'm saying. That's why I had a
bunch of quarterbacks when I was here. But that defense
always was smacking ass all the time. To Quel Jackson,
(55:22):
you know what I'm saying, Gibson, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
All crew, Okay, So now I'm over here at the
defense that there's still is the Browns defense. It's our dude.
I hope our offense ain't ranked higher than our defense.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Oh they have to be. They can't ring up o.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Well shit, I would say our offense probably like twenty five.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Then I'm not just thinking about making yes, making you mad, right,
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know. We
gotta do that. We gotta do something. We gotta get
(56:10):
it done.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
Like but every time I you, you just you. You
can't talk about the offense at all. I know the
defense gotta do better. Defense got to do that. It's
a team game.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
The offense is trash. The coordinator. We already know this.
But you got you got, you got. You got Aaron Rodgers,
even though he's old, You got.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Him looking right, We do got him.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
You got Aaron Rodgers looking regular. Stop playing.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, that's not his bad. It could be the vanilla. Yeah,
you're right, the vanilla play calling a stop.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Dude, Look debo, listen, man, we're gonna be there. We're
gonna be there in Pittsburgh. The matter of fact, we
will be here. We're going with motivation and.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Look here, look here. We're doing a ticket giveaway too. Okay,
we're doing ticket giveaway two sets a two okay, for
you guys to come see let's play. I want to
say beat, You want to say beat. I wanted to
(57:25):
see us, see us take on play and take on
the Buffalo Bills. Four o'clock. Okay, sir, We're go announce
it same way. Saturday, we'll announced the winter Saturday. We're
trying to do it a lot earlier. You know what
(57:46):
I'm saying, then we did last time, we was a
little we were slacking a little bit on that. Okay,
But what you need to do follow Joe myself, Debo
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(58:10):
sets of tickets. Serve all right now, Thanksgiving round the corner.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
You see, got a full slate of games.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Baby, you got Green Band Detroit, you got Kansas City
and Dallas. You got Cincinnati in Baltimore. I'm hoping Cincinnati.
I'm praying.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
Because you know, Joe Burrow come back too. They got
your borrow back, they got your Thanksgiving. So it's gonna
be a good game.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Defense keep stopping those believe man, and there Henry gonna
run over them. Boys. Man, I just feel so sorry
for him, bad for him. But I still rooting for
you because we need you to beat baltim more so
we can get back.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
Thank you, appreciate you got them good Slater games. They're
gonna good.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Slater games for that for Thanksgiving. Listen, I'm gonna get
off here right now because I keep thinking about what
having to play.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yes, this Sunday. Be ready, this is what we go?
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Do we go? Thank you guys for joining us on
this episode of Deebo and Joe, because I was about
to say something to it like we would going anyway. Okay,
please make sure you guys hit the like and subscribe button.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
We'll be right back here on Friday. After those Thanksgiving games.
Jelfs of you have anything looser, I would like to
say thank you guys for tuning in catch us on
Friday after these Thursday night games.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
Let's get it. I mean
Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host James
Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden.
Please make sure you guys like him subscribe. How you're
doing the day.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Joe Gray, brother, Debo doing great?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You know, another day on the set talking to my
good man, speaking this football.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You know what we do?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yes? You know what before we get started with the football,
is it Joe? Joe, Joe. We went four for four
on that prize we did last night.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Man, that's my fault. That's my part for questioning you.
That's my bad questioning. I was worried about Kittle. I
got it done.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I Dann had to like strain you up so you
ain't playing on you boys.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm riding with you now, Debo, I'm riding with you
for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We took twenty five and May two seventy five.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
To my man, your man, Christian McCaffrey got in the
first drive, so hey, that was solid, solid dude.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Forty nine ers get out there and like you said, man,
the first five plays is McCaffrey. He get a run
in three. I think it was a catch for another
another three. That was a nice tackle by what's his name,
what the dude name mean? Uh, Moraine, something like that. Yeah, dude, Merrick,
(01:46):
that was it, Merrick. Third down, he got ten.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
They was giving him the ball every He had eight
touches in the first drive.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Dude, I think he had nine. I mean they was
he had nine on the fours field. Nine of the
fifteen I believe was what was all was touched. The
ball was touched by him, you know. And actually on
that thirty ten, Merrik, he was just trying to disguise
too hard. If he had stayed closer, he could have
he could have stopped on that. Man. They ended up
driving down the field. I think party, party, party, he
(02:20):
went like six six seven.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Was a lot of dump downs, a lot of checks.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
A lot of checks, a lot of dump downs. They
was just staying on the time, dude, They was really
staying ahead of the clock. They were staying on time.
They get down there and purty'all think he hit Jenny's
for twelve twelve yards.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
That's when he broke all them tackles. And that was
the one play horn in them. They were trying to
push the ball out and they was being a little
too worried about that and let the man break the tackles.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
In school, you got a shorter tackle first before you
go to punching that balls, and.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You got that was his first bad That was his
first bad play by man, My man j C made.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Up for that for show. Oh yeah, definitely definitely. Carolina
get out there. They got a positive to play on
the first down, but I think they got.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
A holding call on the second. They end up behind
the change.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
They punt the ball right back to the forty nine ers,
and that man, that man Pardy get out there and
say hey, pick Warren went.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
On, Hey, that was That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
A lot of the plays they've been running against the Stellers,
those bang eights, you know what I'm saying, Like, they
get the play action and then he runs the bang eights.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That was man to man coverage.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That was a great route route recognition for him to
make that play. So Horn was balling, bro that was
like great man and man coverage, right, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Like they're making plays. They're actually like even if he
hadn't made the place, just make that for sure. Yes, yes,
we going ahead. We get out there. What Carolina gets
out there and they get like was it five three?
Something like that? And then on that third down Bryce
scrambles for seven more? Thank you? Anyway, they get to
(04:02):
they get the first and go after one and he
gets picked by Brown. Why are we even throwing the
ball right there? You just got there. It's first and
one when he but like he why did he throw
the ball at all? He could have walked it into
the end zone, you know what I'm saying. He threw
it back across his body a little bit into the
end zone.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That was just not a good play by him. I
feel you they should have ran the ball. They should
have gave it to Rico or Chubble, one of them
too should have got the rock. But even when he's
scrambling out get to the pylon, you could have walked
it in for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And you just threw a damn pick.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Making sense to get the ball. They get the ball again,
they're staring ahead, ahead of the change. They get to
a fourth and one, they get like three I think
it was, you know, with a with a touch push
that was a lot of yards on a simple that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Wouldn't even quarterback quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, he just found the gap. You know, party ended
up scrambling for nine on the second and seven, they
get the first down, They get to the third down again.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And your boy gets picked going damn near the same
kind of route the man hosts play these dbs. My
man was named Mike Jackson. Do he gotta get it
out faster? These dvs just what they do is a
little bit, it's a little late, you know what I'm saying.
But these dbs at the end of the day are
making great plays on the ball. They're like they're they're
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turning into the receiver so the quarterback he can lead
it a little bit more. But I'm not going to
take away anything from these dbs that are going high
point in the ball, you know what I'm saying, Like
not touching the receiver, running, running, running, not using their arms.
You know what I'm saying like it's just straight feet.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, they was moving, man. There. The defense was doing
their thing out there, especially Carolina's defense. Dude, they was
doing they thing. I ain't gonna lie. Forty nineers defense
did well too, but it was going up against a
little little smaller animal than than what they got. They
got over there, and yes, friend, dude, yeah, Carolina, get
out there. They go three and out because the receiver
(06:10):
just totally Yeah, you're not you're not good enough, but
your team is.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
You know, when you're playing with the Panthers like that,
your team isn't that good to be just missing the
normal catches you got all that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta have that. That's that's simple, clean
and you got to make some catch.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
They're not supposed to quarterback out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That's hurting your quarterback guy, right, yeah, bro, forty nine
ers get out there. McCaffrey fumbles the rock they got
so lucky with you see what is up with the panic?
Why is everybody just falling all over the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We had it fall on it just just drop, just drop,
just just drop.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Trying to get there. He came in there dropped, but
dB looking crazy, right, he he just know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You gotta just get down with just calm down, calm down,
fall on the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Then they get to the second down and party like
you listen, I know y'all missed. You know what I'm saying.
That that fumble recovery, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna
give you this. He throws his third pick second time.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Brother, brother, Brother.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
This right here, Debo was a masterclass and playing cornerback.
This mass has deep thirds, Debot, and George Kittle is
the tight end on that side.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So he's blocking. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And once you block, you can look across the field
and try to find work. You might have an over,
you might have a dagger. And he went and found
the dagger and went and picked that ball off. Bertie's
not thinking that the cornerback on the deep third on
the other side of the field is gonna come across the.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Field and pick off your dagger. That's not happening.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So horn falling like just like that's spanning man coverage,
and then that's zone coverage. You knowing exactly what you're
supposed to do. Your assignment is court Kittle? Now, oh
he's blocking knock at across with some more work and
make them go steal something like that play right there.
I was like, man, this dude is not only a
man making the play on the bang a pick undercutting.
(08:09):
Now you're just playing this his own. Now this is
when I could use my eyes. I can read the quarterback,
you know what I'm saying. So God that it was
just I was so happy to see it because me
be in the quarterback, I know what you're supposed to
be looking at. I know that you have Okay, you
have thirds here. Now your next thing is coming across.
You can go steal something. And he went and did it.
I'm like, dog, bravo, bravo, jay Z or.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No question, Carolina, get the ball back, the offensive horn
gone ahead. He make a nice run for eleven after
a little shot pass. Then was it downly he ran
for what was it about eight, weaving in and out
of that thing something like that, and then four plays
you know, they get a what was it? They ended
(08:51):
up stopping them in the defense. You know they they
held them to what was they go? They go, yeah,
they go three to seven. Saint Fran get back out there.
Second down he hit Kittle for that good twenty five
and then then yeah, then he tries to throw two
(09:12):
more picks.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like in the zone. He almost picked that joint off
with a horn, almost had he.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Over kittle due.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And then the next joint man, it was highly killed.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Buddy.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Was he ran that curl route for him and he
good thing he threw it outside because he would have
picked that.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Too, right, he would have. Yeah, if he didn't they
didn't misread each other, yeah, he would, he would have
got it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So I'm like, God, dang, he but Birdie, you out here,
don't you out here trying to give give up the money?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So Carolina holds him to a field goal. They go
up ten to three. Carolina get back out there, and
forty nine ers force to three and out. So it
is what it is. Forty nine get the rock back.
I think it was what they.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It was right before half times they kept on dumping
it off to McCaffrey.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, there was like three they did, like three players
or whatever. Halftime ended up. I appreciate that though, Yeah,
I knew that I was.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They was giving McCaffrey all them.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yards, yes, sir, halftime tar baby yo. Carolina gets the
ball and fumbles on the kickoff return. Bro, Like they
got lucky the dude, they're fun. They got so lucky
he was able to recover that. Dude, Like that would
have been a disaster. They could have got that rock back.
(10:32):
It would have been over with over for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Because the Panthers they didn't have no type of real offense.
So if you keep giving the ball back, you saw
your defense keep turning it over getting the ball to you,
and you're not doing nothing with it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, they get out there first play, dude makes a
nice run for about seventeen. Then they get a holding call.
It's first and what twenty Now they end up not
being able to convert. dB made a nice player on that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
's have a great play and the man Yeah yeah,
forty nine ers get the ball back.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Here go that man Mccatherye again, he goes for twelve again.
This whole drive they just basically able to stay ahead.
And the change they go, they go like thirteen plays
eighty yards. They finish it off.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
With a twelve years to McCaffrey.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Just easy. Yeah, they go up. Was it thirteen to seventeen?
Now he gets seventeen during that drive. I think that's
when they lost horn. I think He ended up going
out with a concussion during the drive, so he was
no longer going to be on defense for him. That
that was a big I think that was a big hit,
(11:49):
especially when you're you know, you're a guy that's frush
and you ain't got him out there covering. You don't
have more time to get to the quarterback, Carolina, get
back out there. Second is short. He gives im second down,
He gives me a short little pass that he's able to.
Herbert is able to turn the fourteen, and then Herbert
gets a run for like five second down. It's Herbert
(12:10):
again for like ten, and then it's Hvered again for six.
There was a lot of Hubbard, no question bro, and
then they're able to hit u.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think it was mc millan for twenty nine yards.
That was the best pass. That was a That was
the quarterbacks best pass.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, we're back in. We're back in the back in it.
They went for two. Yeah, I would have kept that.
Never taken homes off the board on the white not scoring.
We haven't been able to get in here. Let's just
get the let's just get it's nine to seventeen now again,
forty nine ers get back out there. He comes with
(12:52):
Catherine and Kittle. Oh you know, they get I think
it was they get to like a first and ten
at the fifteen yard line and back to back place.
They actually stuffed McCaffrey for a loss. They ended up
being able to hold him to a field goal. So
it's twenty to nine now and Carolina get back out
(13:17):
there and the like the first play, d dB like
almost picked him off if he could have held onto it.
But now it's Coker. Coker take a short one like eighteen.
The next place is Cocher for nine. Then I think, uh,
it was the second down, and this was basically the
(13:38):
end of it. It was Browns and I think.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Second bick when he went to try to throw that dig,
he broke on that joint so clean, y'all.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He see he was trying to push him off. He
held onto a little bit. I mean, no harm, no file.
It was a little was a little it was a
little to I mean he was trying to push off
to now he had the arm force.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
If you rabbit like, if you push it out, that's
why you keep put it. You're trying to push it.
You're literally fully extending your arms to push me. So
I'll be looking at that the same way too, Dbo,
Like why you is? Why is it okay for you
to push me? So if you get a push and
I get a little hand on you and they don't
call nothing, well that's what it is. It is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
That's what it is. That's what it is. Forty nine
ers get out there and they get a delay a
game on that second down, end up making them have
to go three and out. They didn't give Carolina the
ball back, you know, second down down and he goes
for like eleven and the next play they hit like fourteen,
and then they get fifteen, but it's an illegal touching
(14:38):
because battle Bomb can't do that. You can't do that
and come back in and get that thing. And then
after that Young got sacked for what negative but seven
eight ten something like that. He lost eight or ten
yards something like that. They ended up settling for a
field goal to tempt and they miss it over there.
That's all. Yeah, it's done it, don't you know, it
(15:00):
don't matter what you do after that. Like like this
right here for me was like it was like an
all around team win. More like defense, I think for
San fran the defense stepped up for the most part
when party through those interceptions, Bro, Like the one interception,
(15:20):
I believe they got nothing. The other interception they may have.
They may have got a field goal on one of them,
and then.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
The other one they were as they were to pick
they was.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And then yes the other and yeah, the one interception.
It was a back to back, so they went to.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Pick for a pick, a punt and a field goal.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
They gave up three and got and got an interception back. Like,
that's how your defense is supposed to respond.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
In San Francisco's defense only gave up what like seventy
yards Russian. I think Bryce had what maybe one hundred
and seventy yards passing two interceptions along with that. But McCaffrey, dude, McCaffrey,
deal with McCaffrey does, Like that's what it came down
almost ninety yards rushing, another fifty three receiving. Kittle went
(16:19):
out there and got him six for almost eighty. You know,
pretty yo, he got to clean up what he's doing, bro,
because if you know, he left a couple of picks
out there too.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It was he could threw a smooth five picks, easy
five pick day.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like you playing against the different competition that got a
better offense. This is not going to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Turn on, not at all.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
For me, it was Christian McCaffrey is amazing, and the
ways that they used him, getting him the ball, like
I felt like I was watching the little league game almost.
It's like get the ball to your best player, you
know what I'm saying, Like he's going to make something
happen for us. So they kept on getting him the
rock pretty every time he threw the ball. You saw
he was zero for two for two picks if the
ball went past fifteen yards. So he was doing a
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lot of checkdowns, a lot of making sure, you know
what I'm saying, staying ahead of the sticks getting the
ball to McCaffrey. But for me, he can't. You gotta
protect that rock. You can't be in any of those bangings.
You gotta throw it to where your receiver can get
it or nobody can get it, you know what I'm saying.
So I mean he got to definitely tighten up. Their
defense plays amazing. They don't just being able to step
up when your quarterback he's putting you in positions where
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you keep having to get on the field and you answer,
You answer the call, you get another pick. You know
what I'm saying, you something. You give up a field goal,
you give up a punt. You know what I'm saying,
you forcing the punt. You're just going up there and
answering the bell. So I was I loved the defense.
I loved how Christian McCaffrey was playing. But Birdie just
had me looking a little crazy with any pass that
went over fifteen yards that if you didn't know if
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it was going to be a picker or not. So
he just got tightened up with that. But their team
is solid. Yeah, he was gunslinging.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So at the end of the game there Jenny's got
punched in his manhood by uh Trevon, you know, cheap shot.
We can't show it, but uh what do you what's worse?
Spit on or being pushed in which one? Uh damn
(18:15):
what I was saying, spit spit you want to go.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Because I'm just flustered.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm not trying the level of respect of just messed
up just expected for me.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
The pain of being hit is going to be worse,
but disrespect of being spit on can't be compared. That's what.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Okay, that's why I was trying to say, because I'm like,
if you get hit in the you get hit in
the prod. You can't react old initially because you're hurting
like you you you're hurting like I got it right there.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You know what I'm saying, Well, you get spit on, right,
I got I gotta get you. Listen, man, So my son, right, listen.
So my son he did that once, well he did
it like three times when he's like three four years old, right,
and on purpose. You can't explain to a three four
year o why you don't do that. So the first
time you did it was like an accident, you know
what I'm saying. I folded down. I'm like, oh you know,
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and you know he kind of.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Know how to get down right.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So the next time it was the same day. You know,
down their memories now, don't So the same day he
came over, he fired on me. Right, I'm like, hey, no,
don't do that. That hurt, right, don't do that that hurt.
So a little while later he comes back and he
go to fire on me again. So I waited, I said,
I told you don't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So when he goes to walk around, I walks up
to him and I popp him right in here, right,
and I said, that's why you don't do it hurts
you set him down as a How old that dude? Dude?
He was like three four. And this is the thing, dude,
a three four year old cannot understand. The reason I
got the most understand reasoning discipline into my kids between
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the ages of like two and six because they couldn't
understand me explaining to them. They don't have the capacity,
but they understand reward. So if I tell you to
do something and to not do it, he may not
even understand right from wrong, but he will understand reward.
He will understand pain. That's one thing you understand. Like
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you going, you getting little Johnny and he's going over
there and trying to stick his finger in that socket
or stick a key in that socket, or stick something
in that socket, and you run over there and you're
telling him no, no, no, no no, and you pull him away.
And now he runs back over there and you're telling
him no, no, no, no, no no. You pull him away,
and you keep doing that. It just now became a game.
He thinks you're playing a game. No, no, no, no,
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I'm trying to stave your life. So me, I tell
you once, After I tell you once, I correct you.
That correction then is pain. He's like, you know what
if I do that, I get pain. He don't know
that if he sticks that key in that socket, he's
going to die. But he understands the pain. So you
can't sit here and explain to a you know, a
two to six year old that you can't do this
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because it's gorristial life risk reward. That's easy, dude, it's easy.
And if you don't do that, you get kids that
grow up into adults who don't listen, don't pay attention,
aren't productive members of society, and everything to other fact.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
But yeah, I'm doing the same thing with my kids.
It's right from wrong, and I'm being able to like
if you do something, if you when you walk into
the crib and you're doing everything the right way, I'm
never never going to be punishing you. But if you
do stuff that's wrong, you know what I'm saying, I'm
going to definitely let you know what it is so
that oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Dude, listen, I'm I do not spare the rod as
they say, Well, I haven't had to do nothing with
the rod in a long time. You know. One actually,
James was a little little little tougher than my youngest Henry.
You know, Henry, he couldn't take it. He was like,
uh uh nah, I don't want none of that. James
probably you know he took his last one was probably
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about twelve and thirteen. He was way before that. If
I come into if I come and I got a
question to ask and it could possibly be uh some
some whooping behind it, Oh, Henry, go drop the dime.
He ain't taking the whooping. I feel that. I feel that, yeah, dude.
(22:21):
But uh the Panthers, they gotta they got a situation
over there. What you the quarterback Bryce Young? You think
you think it's time for them to uh maybe move
on from me.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I don't think Bryce Young is that good. And that's
not no disrespect. He's a little small sometimes with his arm.
He's just not making all of the plays. They have
a What they need to do is lean on the
running game. Rico Dobblin Hubbard is good that that that
rookie receiver that they have is solid.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But so you say, it's time to I think.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So I'm wish you I would agree, not I would,
I want, I want, I actually I one hundred percent
agree that it's time to move on. Like you got
to realize you you a first round pick, not just
the first round pick. You were he orst pick. Like
your improvement from year to year has to be greater
(23:15):
than what it is they want you to be. You know,
a franchise, real life quarterback, and your improvements year to
year haven't been that. I think his completion rate is
still only like what maybe sixty two, sixty three percent
something like that, and that's only up from fifty nine
or sixty his rookie year. Like you look at you know,
(23:39):
you look at these Drake may dude, what is he
like seventy or something completion? Then your franchise quarterbacks like
you know, Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, jos these guys are
in the upper sixties, Jared goff All that I think, Yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't see a when I look at him.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No, And there's no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But sometimes like when you're like you said, your number
one overall pick, there's you've had your time.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
You're being able to go out there.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But like you, when we're talking about franchise quarterbacks the
US are making sixty million dollars a year, would you
want Bryce Young as your quarterback at sixty million?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
At thirty?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like, I Don'm not thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Like I'm just trying to figure out, like once you
get that good time to see what what you have,
then it's like we got to be able to I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
He's going to be able to win you a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So like if that's the path, you know, what I'm
saying is that I don't think it's always Yeah, so
it's not going to be the path with with with
him being the quarterback. Oh okay, yeah yeah, but every
every every whole path is to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh yeah, no question about it. So Jamar Chase, he
said he was sorry for spitting. What he did was wrong.
Can we put that up? Can we let us stand here? Thank?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He said a lot?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What do you what do you think it is? Joe?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
The ceiling?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So I'm gonna go ahead and take off for you,
So give me a give me a this right here,
this right here was like almost a perfect apology, okay,
like almost it was good like it was good. Whoever
his team is that he had writ this up. They
did it good. They did a good job writing this up. Okay,
(25:24):
but it wasn't perfect. Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He apologized to the Bengals, He apologized to the stillers,
He apologized to the NFL, He apologized to the coaches,
He apologized to the teammates, He apologized.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
To the fans. But oh he had it. Listen, listen.
He had a small slip, but one person he forgot
in the small and listen, listen, it was just one.
I'm just saying it was a small slip up. Then
it was a big slip. So the small slip up
is where he says, Uh, this has been a tough
season with some incredibly hard losses. We've all been frustrated.
(26:01):
But instead of stepping up with calm and class and leadership,
I let my having to sit it what he said,
I let my having to sit out yesterday whatever Bactually
he said, him having to sit out yesterday made his
actions unexcusable and it won't happen again. So you're telling
(26:22):
me you having to sit out made was what major
actions unexcusable? No, you sitting out had you lose a
half a million dollars. But that right there was just
that was just a little slip. The big slip was
finally I want to apologize to the fans. No, finally
(26:43):
should have been you apologizing to Jayleen Ramsey. That should
have been your family. I highly doubt you called him personally,
and if you did, you still should have put him
in there. Because you made this public public statement, you
should have let the public see that too.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So yep, you like you said debo, that was eloquently
written out. The he said, apologize to everybody but the
main person that you spin on. Right and the end
of the day, I think you know you said, oh,
I'm because you set out the game. Your game checks
for four hundred thousand dollars a game, so you know
what I'm saying, put you two games, you would have
(27:25):
missed eight hundred thousand, you know what I'm saying. So
that was five he missed five and five and something, Okay,
five hundred thousand. So I'm like, basically you're just saying
that it was the money part. I just wish as
a person you would have just been like you spin
on Jaalen Ramsey. There's nothing but words y'all are always
in the in the in the heat of the battle,
being able to go. So you apologizing the fans, people
that wear your jersey, the coaches that, but not the
(27:45):
person that you actually spit on. That was just literally
y'all are playing against y'all are in the heat of
the moment. You know what I'm saying, going at it.
He did nothing out of line where what was what
to cause him to spit You know what I'm saying, Like, that's.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Just it ain't nothing. It ain't nothing you could do
that cause caused me to It Ain't nothing you could
say because he didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We saw, we saw no actions that like, it's nothing.
So I'm just this is just an attempt to try
and hopefully them reduce the fine because that's the only
thing that could happen. But that's not going to happen
because he already served the whole thing. And on top
(28:27):
of that, the finally you doubled back with the I
don't take anyone wearing my jersey for granted. Hey, I
just lost half a million. Make sure y'all keep wearing
my jersey.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I'm trying to make it out kind of make I
need to have any of that backpack.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I need that back.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's it, I hope, but I hope your mom man,
like real talk that the spitting party, you know that,
but we were talking about it. There's no scenario where
should be spending on anybody.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I think honestly he does feel You know what I'm
saying bad you gotta you gotta be feeling crazy. People
are talking about it, and the way that everybody says
spitting is not acceptable.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I just wish you would apologize to.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Demand that he spit on in the joint, like, hey, listen, man,
sometimes things not said are more important than things said.
And also, should let's get to these good old brownies man,
(29:27):
Gil Dealing Gabriel was clear, but should we'll start versus
the forty.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Nine ers you think, I'm very, very very happy about that.
I'm excited. I'm happy for I'm happy for Shador, I'm
happy for the Browns, I'm happy for just Cleveland. I'm
happy for Miles Garrett, I'm happy for Denzel Ward, I'm
happy for the Defense of Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm happy for the city of Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And this is no and I love dealing Gabriel too,
but I wouldn't have wanted him to come back and
to be able to come back, and he would have
to like if they would try to start him or
anything like that, just for the crowd being able to boohm,
you know what I'm saying, First incomplete pass. He doesn't
deserve that he had a shot. He had his time.
He has six games to play, you know what I'm saying.
Then he had his concussion, and then now Shadore's time
(30:14):
to go out there and play. And I'm just happy
now it just is what it is. He has his
time that he can go out there practice, he can
get all of his reps. Now he's gonna play against
the forty nine ers and then we'll see, you know
what I'm saying. Hopefully he just gets better and better
each game. I'm not going to say like the last
one when he was eleven for twenty for two oh nine,
that like that was just the drop that oh my god,
he's the best.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Player in the world.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, but it's progress, it's something to move forward, it's
something to build on. He could still you know what
I'm saying, from the first game four for sixteen to
eleven for twenty to now let's see what we can do.
See if we can not have an interception. You know
what I'm saying. If Jerry Judy doesn't fumble that ball,
that's another drive that maybe who knows what happens, you
know what I'm saying, we could he could have scored again.
So just being able to keep the ball, just keep
(30:53):
the main thing, the main thing. I'm happy now that
he is naming the starters. He don't have to worry
about outside noise. He's gonna be able to his plays
in his first fifteen he's gonna be able to meet
with the receivers and all that extra work that you
got to do, do it. You know what I'm saying,
This is your time to be able to go out
there and perform. So I just want him to lock
in and keep that main thing, the main thing. And
you don't have to don't this way, I would tell
(31:17):
usha door, we we're here for you. You don't have
to project yourself out there. We know what's going on,
we know about just you getting a little bit of
practice reps. So you just go out there and grind
and ball and just you know, you got a great defense.
You know what I'm saying, be complementary of your guys.
You know what I'm saying, because I don't. I know,
some people just don't like how his swag and just
the way that he carries himself. Sometimes bump that if
(31:38):
you're balling, you're balling. But I just wanted to let
him know, like we got your back for all that.
But I just don't want him to give haters reasons
to be you know what I'm saying, just on his
net for no reason.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Do you think that this was actually Kevin Stefanski's decision
to start should or or do you think that it
was other people who made the decision or made sure
(32:10):
he made the decision to start.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Should I think if he would have tried to come
back and start dealing Gabriel, then it would have just
been all hell would have broke loose.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's not what I asked you, Joe, What did you
ask me?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I asked you, do you think it was his decision
alone to start the door or did someone else make
sure he made that? If I don't, I would say
that somebody else. I would think it was above his head.
If he had to pick, I think he would have
had Dylan Gabriel probably start I just me personally, I
think because I know he likes he likes dealing. That's
(32:47):
his that's his that's his man. So if he personally,
I think he would have started dealing. But I don't
think logically walking into that locker room talking to other
professionals talking, look talking to your team, looking miles, gear
them dudes in the eyes. You can't go in there
and start Dylan Gabriel once he comes out of a
protocol from what you've seen so far, and now we
have Shador coming off the win and no fucking rookies
(33:10):
had since.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Ninety five, So he's going to start a game.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Dylan has six get his man.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
This is going to be a second game starting, like
he could least be able to you know what I'm saying,
give him some time. So you can't just take him
out and put it in Dylan like he was fucking
Tom Brady or like Patrick Mahomes just had a concussion
and came back. No, we're talking about Dylan Gabriel. You
know what I'm saying. He hasn't done too much, not knocking,
but like now we have another rookie that's the quarterback
that just won his last game. Let's see what we
can do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So, yeah, I one percent agree with you, because if
that was the case, he would have had more of
a response instead of I'm just worried about this game.
We're talking about this game. When they asked if he
would start next week, yeah, it is was not his
(33:58):
decision to alone like they're like, yo, you going here
and tell these dudes that Dylan is starting. They're not
going to be happy about this, and you may lose
the locker room. I think so for me personally, I'm
(34:20):
starting on one throw and that was that fifty yard
bomb on the money because I know for a fact
Dylan Gabriel cannot do that. He can barely get the
swing pass out that ended up going for sixty six.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
H Yeah, d bo you I'm picking up what you're putting.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Down, hey, matter of fact, picking up what you're putting down.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
They said a high school coach shove the opposing quarterback
on the side with che.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Listen, bro I don't listen. I don't. I don't know
exactly what, but I'm gonna tell you right now, Hey,
ain't no way it was. It was a black kid,
I promise you because the game kept going on, and.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
They said the court and in the quarterback look and
they said, we got it. Yeah, hold on, hold on,
just look that sit down. Can you make it bigger?
I can't make it. And then yeah, the quarterback get
kicked ou because he threw the ball on the thumb.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
He was all the smoke. He like, what's the coach?
Oh my god? They said he actually the coat. They
kicked the kid out and kept the game on the sideline. Man, listen, listen,
my daddy broke off like he just that that game
ain't finishing. He gave he gave him a good stiff
(35:45):
arm too. Look all he had to do was move.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
He's not Look he put his hand out there to
the pit buddy the contact and look laughing like it's sweet,
trying to walk off like he ain't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Not bruh. Hey, the sideline. He couldn't have stayed there.
They listen, they had game over with football.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Though you're grown man, you just put your hands.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Are you out of your mind?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
This is hey, this is the thing man, Like a
lot of people will killed for anything.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Very few people will die for something. I'm ready and
willing to die for mine. There's nothing that goes on.
I'm doing whatever I want to do because I'm going
to die for it. I'm not a bunch of people
kill for step and ship. How many people willing to
go in there and die for something, die for somebody?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I know you are. That's how you get killed. He's tripping.
I mean, that's you got.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
There're supposed to be dudes that are supposed to be
teaching them like leadership or to throw the hand trying
to protect the man from running onto the sideline right there.
You're supposed to catch them, you know what I'm saying.
Like the end of the day, we know when you're
playing against other teams, it is what it is, but
you're never really trying to You're not trying to that's
just dirty, do you know what I'm saying. You're not
really trying to just harm people outside of the game.
(37:16):
Once you get outside of the lines, it's all love.
That's why when you finish the games, it's always you
tap up, you meet at the center, you pray together.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
At the end of the day, we're playing a game
that we love and we know it's a violent, violent,
violent game, but you're not really trying to do weird things.
That's just like as a person, you just like, that's
just dirty. There's certain things that you don't do. You
don't hit, like, what are you doing? And then you're
trying to walk off and act like you're supposed to
be leaders of men and trying to teach these dudes
how to be the best representation of themselves. And you're
(37:46):
out here looking crazy and no one that like somebody's
parents obviously, will come outside of it.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And you're trying to example you want to set terrible.
That ain't the example you want to set. That's crazy.
I hate seeing stuff like that, man, because they leading
Joe Joe Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe Joe Joe. No. I'm like,
if we put that, he going to jail. What hey, bro,
(38:12):
this is what I guess. The Philly dude is going
viral for calling the police and saying there's a terrorist
operating in the Eagles facility offensive court se bro, Hey,
we got the video. Man showed the video.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I would like to report a terrorist operating out of Philadelphia.
The Novacare Complex center goes by the name Kevin Patulo.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yes, the emergency he is operating.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
You need to look up there his current whereabouts his
A T and T Stadium in Dallas, Texas. Yeah, just
take your time whenever you get to it. But just
remember the name Kevin Patulo, Kevin Patulo, thank you for
your health today.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Please. He needs to be.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Calling Debo straight to jail him. You're going to jail.
What's going to jail?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
You're playing with nine one one?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Funny?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
No, hey, that that that's funny until they come and
grab you, until you're in the fort Nelson like all
these like all these kids is doing this? Man, y'all
going up to people who are unaware of what you're doing.
Do a skit where somebody is aware. It's it's somebody
fat doing that. People out here, some people losing their
lives when.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
They're playing with people too much.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Man. Some people not some people not friendly. Some people
don't like to you.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Don't ain't nobody always.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Playing when somebody's been going through that day, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
You don't know what I got on me. You don't
know if I'm a kid seal carry person and you're
running up on me with something that looks like it
can hurt me or take my life.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I'm gonna layer trying to go viral.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You're going to jail and hell.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Going to jail and hell is crazy.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Like, come on, man, y'all know my buddy on that
joint playing with that terrorist attack calling now one one
terrorists to jail.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
As soon as they realize who you is, y'all going
ahead pick him up. Hey, let's run a video one
more time so you can see a fan. I snitch.
I tell you I snitch.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I tell you.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You understand I ain't. I ain't. I ain't having no
part to little Joe. Who your defensive player of the week, Bro, you.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Know exactly who my defensive player of the week is.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Let me see who it is. Let me let me
see who your defensive player of the week. Let me see.
I don't know. I might I might have somebody.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
No, no, no, who you got, Who you got I'm
looking at who you get it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Getting?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
We won House Garrett generational talent for the Cleveland Browns.
Our Cleveland Browns eighteen sacks right now, three sacks of
the last game team to four spouse Garrett, Yeah House,
Garrett defensive player of the week, and he stood on
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business are you sure? And Costefanski gave him the game ball.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
You know, you know, I listen, I ain't gonna lie
to you until he did what he did.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I was going with Will Anderson, that's not a bad choice, Houston.
He was going crazy. But he went and did what
he did, So I gotta I gotta give it to him.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I gotta give it to him. I gotta give it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
To a debo. So I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, but I was the thing I was looking at.
I was trying to see his name on the stat
sheet with the Stillers when we played, so I didn't
see nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Did it because you Yeah, we ain't you know, we
ain't too worried about it.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Hey, let that worry about everybody else. Everybody else can
worry about it. So I'm saying is to say, Sack Record,
you just got to hope he get it before he
faced the Pig Steelers in that last game.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Because but hold up, Debo, what about you gotta we're
gonna talk about what.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
You all right, listen, listen, listen. Okay, I'm just saying
he ain't pissedl drop on us. Only thing I will
be worried about like I said, was a defense, and
you personally thought I was being too hard.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I really really did.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
So I went on ahead did some research and I
pulled up some stuff and what did I send you on?
What did chat GPT say, what did they take?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I really couldn't believe that you sent me this because
I'm looking from just out like watching it. It doesn't
look I mean sometimes like the open the big plays,
the gas is the not jamming two, you know what
I'm saying, the seams so the chunk plays that we're
getting it. I just was like, but we've been but
don't break. You know what I'm saying. But I didn't
know it was I'm tired of it still. I'm telling
(43:16):
you sent me this, and it showed me it's too
much bend. It's so much bend. I didn't even know
you said. This is the worst still is defense we've
had since nineteen eighty eight. And it's just statistically it
was numbers. You sent me this damn chap GBT thing,
and I thought.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
You was tripping.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
We are rated the worst we have ever been rated
as a defense since nineteen eighty eight. So am I
over You were not?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
You were not overacting you were not overacting.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Twenty three point nine points per game, three hundred and
sixty eight yards allowed per game, ranked twenty eighth in
NFL worst total defense ranking and franchise history pair of
multiple sources.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Okay, so when I read that out loud, you are
not free.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
When I read that out loud, you do you have
valid points?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I couldn't hear you. Could you run that one more time?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Still as defense so far, twenty three point nine points
allowed per game, three hundred and sixty eight yards per game,
ranked twenty eighth for NFL worst total defense ranking in
franchise Henry history.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
When was the.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Last time we were ranked twenty eighth? Nineteen eighty eight
and we gave up twenty three point two points game
at that? And that's that's right from chat gbtight from
chat GBT. Okay, yep, yeah, here's the thing. We could
(44:56):
savage this season. So souvage we could. It's but we
have to knock off Baltimore twice.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
We have to beaten Buffalo. Miami is a win we have.
Cleveland is a win we shut. Okay, see there you go.
The only problem is Buffalo, Baltimore and Detroit Cleveland Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
See there you go being this.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Look, I'm just trying to play the games, and that's
what I'm saying with distillers. They better come out there
and we gotta we gotta win it. It's it's not
it's each individual week. But we can't look past nobody.
Hold up, Hold up, Joe, Hold up, Joe, Hold up, Joe,
Hold up, Joe. You were saying that like you were
saying that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
No no, no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I'm saying it like we need to expect you better
be you better be ready. You just can't be glazing
over people, debo.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
That's how you get. That's how you get.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
We ain't glazing over not they better not be glazing
over Now you.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Just said you like this. Oh yeah, team listen here.
You want me to keep this one hundred percent, I'm
gonna keep it one hundre. I'm gonna gep it one
hundred and fifty with you right now. We're probably lucky
if we split with Baltimore, we got Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
We need to win. It's not a must win, but
we need to but we need to win because if
we don't beat Buffalo. We have to beat Detroit. Like
that means we gotta beat Baltimore, we gotta beat Miami,
and we have to beat Detroit. We gotta get three
(46:49):
in the world. We ain't got three in the row
all year.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, it's started off. It starts off Sunday. I think
we get Buffalo, Sunday, we get we get.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Look that and I'm saying I'm saying this as okay
because we already beat Cleveland. I'm talking to as a win.
I'm saying this as how Miami has performed, although they
went out there and put their foot in Buffalo's neck.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
That's what That's why I'm saying, you never know what
version of the teams you're gonna get, So we gotta
come out there and put belt the ass.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
And to be honest, brouh we're lucky, lucky if we
get to five hundred. Oh. Buffalo could be a loss,
Baltimore could be a loss, Miami could be a win,
Detroit could be a loss, and I'm hoping we can
beat Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Although the way Miles has been playing, I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Respect the honesty, that's what I'm looking for. Thank you, Okay, period,
all right.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
I feel that that that's just what it to come.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
And if that happens, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Gone if it gets under it, and the.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Only reason I would be like, Okay, I'm hoping that
we get playoffs. Don't even think about playoffs. I'm hoping
we can get to five hundred because that way, at
least Mike can save a few jobs. A couple people
gonna have to be sacrificed for the greater good or
the rest. But then again, that puts us back here
(48:29):
where we're probably trying to fight for another five hundred
seas instead of a championship. So I'm like six and
one a half done another.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, I don't what you think we're gonna do, So
say say if it you're saying, bump the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
If we lose the Buffalo, we have to win the
next three. We dude, we have to win in that three.
We won three, but it was a buy in.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Between, so they had some rest. This was straight three.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
They had some We gotta go straight three. Boom boom boom.
Now physical games bro Buffalo Hook Baltimore, Henry running the ball, Jackson,
Derrick Henry, Lamar Jackson. I hope his leg ain't fully
healed by then.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I hate I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I used to want to play against everybody, strength to
wait till the game.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Now you want some Now you want somebody in there
limping in. Now you want them limping in.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah. I just want to be able to sit there
and be like, this is the Pittsburgh Stills. We at
least in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
We're gonna see a lot we can bottom.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Dude, O the Lord my standard. I'm just trying to
get there.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
You're just trying to get there.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I'm not. I'm not hoping for five hundred.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
What damn deva, how the tables have turned. But look,
we got Buffalo this weekend. We're gonna be there and
pitt So i' muna say we're gonna be there in
real time. I'm be able to look and see and
watch you while let's let's just let's hope for good though,
let's hope.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Oh, I'm always hoping for good.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
I'm always hoping for good Mason, because I know it's
Mason starts just.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
So much starting. I don't I don't, I don't care,
I don't care, I don't care. Who is there? Man?
The defense gonna have to do it. Bro, the defense
gonna have to do. I don't care about the offense side. Bro,
as long as they ain't turned the ball over, and
I don't, I don't do it. I don't, I don't,
I don't care. Man like we and even if they
turn it over, we have to stop.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
We have to stop them.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
We have to put out fires. Bro. Look at look
san Fran they put out fires. Bro. Yep. If we
did that, it gave up only three on on the
on the turnovers, on the three turnovers, they would only
had say that what was it? Eighteen less points? You right?
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Sudden changed?
Speaker 3 (51:21):
So the defense did like you said, if they don't school,
they don't win. So the defense could really be there.
They got to step up, especially making.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
All a half teen defense. I keep like, it's not
about it.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
We ain't got no money to get nobody on offense,
so we are relying on our.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Defense make it happen. And that's something they being. Yep.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
And we are statistically the worst defense that Pittsburgh Steelers
have had since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Bro, was you even born born in eighty nine? That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
You wasn't even born there you was a thought something
around in your dad's set. You know.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
So they was the worst defensive. This was that thirty
seven years because I'm a smooth thirty six.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Dang, it's just dude, I try to do. It's depressing, Bruh.
It's I'm hoping they hearing all this, dude, because motivation something. Bro.
I love being told what I can't do. I'm hoping
y'all hearing this. Dude. This is what you did, what
(52:28):
you did before they played, the cold desire that you have. Bruh.
I'm just not dude, Ramsey, Yes, I love it, dude
that that dude. Won't it? Bro? I seen won't it?
He ain't turning nothing down. He giving you everything that
he can get you out there. I'm not letting up
on this quarterback. He got one foot in and I'm
(52:50):
umbing on it. I bet you were. If Ramsey was
right there when MICHAELA was running out there on that screen,
he might not have been that gang.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
Yeah, I love Ramsey energy. He bringing he said, he
keep bringing energy, says the tone. And now we got
herbic to swat. Everybody just got to come off that
thing and ball can't get pushed.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Back, Debo. We have to establish line.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Again. Scheme a scheme, dude, what we're doing, what they're
assigned to have to do. Yeah, sometimes they're out of position.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
The position that.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
They gotta be in ain't the one that should be in.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
But then at the same time, to d BO, the
simple ship punch and widen, you have to reroute number two.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Like Jude, just listen to the interviews, dude McQueen. He's like, Yo,
we know what's happening, and they still doing They still
getting it done. We know what's coming, they still getting
What is that telling you? We know it, you know,
we see it.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
We ain't stopping it.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
It still ain't getting done. Either somebody ain't getting it
or they ain't in position to get it done. Either
way it go. It ain't getting done. But he's like, Yo,
we know it is coming and we can't stop it, hopefully.
Like that was actually like on some interview where he
said this, you know how frustrated you gotta be to
(54:20):
say that. I know it. No, I'm saying as a
player right now, I don't I don't care. I can
say whatever I want to say. Like, dude, I thought
we were bad when we were ranked five. When I
played with the Steelers. Dude. We would talk to each
other like bru we trash. We were one one five
(54:41):
two one one. Dude, we're twenty eighth right now. I
don't even think I've ever played on the defense rank
that low.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Na, I mean either.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
And you played for them, Yeah, I did, and I
fucking did.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Defense was nice at head, the Browns defense when I
was there, nice as hell, debo being disrespectful. Our offense
needed to pick up bring you need to pick up some
you know what I'm saying. That's why I had a
bunch of quarterbacks when I was here. But that defense
always was smacking ass all the time. To Quel Jackson,
(55:22):
you know what I'm saying, Gibson, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
All crew, Okay, So now I'm over here at the
defense that there's still is the Browns defense. It's our dude.
I hope our offense ain't ranked higher than our defense.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Oh they have to be. They can't ring up o.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Well shit, I would say our offense probably like twenty five.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Then I'm not just thinking about making yes, making you mad, right,
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know. We
gotta do that. We gotta do something. We gotta get
(56:10):
it done.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
Like but every time I you, you just you. You
can't talk about the offense at all. I know the
defense gotta do better. Defense got to do that. It's
a team game.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
The offense is trash. The coordinator. We already know this.
But you got you got, you got. You got Aaron Rodgers,
even though he's old, You got.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Him looking right, We do got him.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
You got Aaron Rodgers looking regular. Stop playing.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, that's not his bad. It could be the vanilla. Yeah,
you're right, the vanilla play calling a stop.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Dude, Look debo, listen, man, we're gonna be there. We're
gonna be there in Pittsburgh. The matter of fact, we
will be here. We're going with motivation and.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Look here, look here. We're doing a ticket giveaway too. Okay,
we're doing ticket giveaway two sets a two okay, for
you guys to come see let's play. I want to
say beat, You want to say beat. I wanted to
(57:25):
see us, see us take on play and take on
the Buffalo Bills. Four o'clock. Okay, sir, We're go announce
it same way. Saturday, we'll announced the winter Saturday. We're
trying to do it a lot earlier. You know what
(57:46):
I'm saying, then we did last time, we was a
little we were slacking a little bit on that. Okay,
But what you need to do follow Joe myself, Debo
and Joe. Subscribe to Debo and Joe and like for
your opportunity to win one of the sets of two
(58:10):
sets of tickets. Serve all right now, Thanksgiving round the corner.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
You see, got a full slate of games.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Baby, you got Green Band Detroit, you got Kansas City
and Dallas. You got Cincinnati in Baltimore. I'm hoping Cincinnati.
I'm praying.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
Because you know, Joe Burrow come back too. They got
your borrow back, they got your Thanksgiving. So it's gonna
be a good game.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Defense keep stopping those believe man, and there Henry gonna
run over them. Boys. Man, I just feel so sorry
for him, bad for him. But I still rooting for
you because we need you to beat baltim more so
we can get back.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
Thank you, appreciate you got them good Slater games. They're
gonna good.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Slater games for that for Thanksgiving. Listen, I'm gonna get
off here right now because I keep thinking about what
having to play.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yes, this Sunday. Be ready, this is what we go?
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Do we go? Thank you guys for joining us on
this episode of Deebo and Joe, because I was about
to say something to it like we would going anyway. Okay,
please make sure you guys hit the like and subscribe button.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
We'll be right back here on Friday. After those Thanksgiving games.
Jelfs of you have anything looser, I would like to
say thank you guys for tuning in catch us on
Friday after these Thursday night games.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
Let's get it. I mean
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