October 27, 2025 • 63 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Sunday Night Football where Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers falling to Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers. Later, they react to the Denver Broncos taking down the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Jets upsetting the Cincinnati Bengals, and much more action from Week 8 of the 2025 NFL season!
Timeline:
00:00 - Intro
05:20 - Steelers fall to Packers
28:30 - Browns lose to Patriots
46:00 - Shedeur Time?
47:20 - Dolphins beat Falcons
50:00 - Jets beat Bengals
1:02:00 - Cam Skattebo hurt in Giants loss to Eagles
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Depo and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys
like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How
you doing today, Joe, I ain't gonna lie. Man. It
was a tough It was a tough football Sunday.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I know it was, but like you you, the Steelers
got smacked. Both of our teams got whooped. My Browns
got wood and the Steelers got whooped. So you know,
I know you like you, you told me previous to
the show that I'm used to this that was so much,
so much. I understand because it's like I know'm You're
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gonna be able to live a fight. That's the that's
the one thing about the Steelers fans being able to
play for this.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You're so used to here, man, listen here, listen here,
used to win it. Yeah, yes, yes, that is true.
That is true. Okay, But I'm also used to my defense,
our defense, the Stellers defense, being the reason that we win,
not the reason that we lose. My voice a little
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scratch because I was at the game. I do the
I come out the tunnel I do the walk, you
know how come through stair through here, stare through here,
give me all that, we're all the tie, all that
gas them up. We're going. I think it's I'm feeling
the energy. I'm like, we got this. This is what
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just what's about to go down? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
We lose? We lose.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We lose, and the score ain't even really it don't
say how bad we lost because we we scored the
trash touch.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You you went to the game last night.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I went to the game last night. But you call
me doing the Browns game. You're telling me that you
was at the crib before that. That was before you
went to the still.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Getting ready, I'm getting Yeah, that's two different people like no, yeah,
I'm listen, Lord, I'm going trying and not cuss.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I promise you I am. But let's get to it.
Then de bo I might crash.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So listen, bro, I'm sitting there at the game man
and and I do the call out. I come out
in tunnel is going everything. I'm getting the field, you
know what I'm saying. I'm like, whoa, I'm I'm I'm
I done. Told myself, like, you know, maybe I could
go out here for three snakes, you know, you know,
get up.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
To the top, bro, sit down, Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They win, They get the ball first man, defense come
out there. It was third and one. I'm like, I'm
a little dude. We hold, we hold. I'm like, man,
you need that. Yes, I'm like, yo, this this this
is this is this is looking more like still the
football brother. Still, let's get out there, man. We get
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a tackle eligible throw to the tackle to let him
know that we ain't just bringing him out.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Here for nothing. For your nice nice opening.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Up the playbook, opening up the playbook, man, I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Then on the third down, the third and short, I
think it was like third and three, Wilson get four it. Oh,
it's going gravy. I'm sitting up there, I'm yelling, I'm
screaming as you can hear everything going gravy.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And then we actually get a little setback. We get
a PI on DK push off.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That put us behind the sticks. But you know who
we got in there. If we can't hurt if anywhere
close to sixty, we go put Bank on the field.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, he hit fifty six right there. We up three. Oh,
I'm like, hey, it's a good start.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It could have been better, but I ain't tripping. I
ain't tripping at all. Green Baye back out there, love
doing thing, But this is what I'm upset about. This
dude through like four short passes, dude, like that went
for like twenty four, six thirteen, and then the sixteen
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yard touchdown. It's seven three.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
There's a lot of mistackles out there.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Gangster Early, I really ain't. I really ain't tripping, you
know what I'm saying. Still, let's get back out there again.
We get a little illegal shift on this on the.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Second offense, that back behind the sticks. That's when they
was messing up.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
We could have been third and what thirty three? Now
we're second and thirteen. We end up having to punt
the ball man.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm gonna tell you right now, my red cup. Don't
you all worry about what's in it? Might not be
nothing in it. I'm doing a little bit of everything
right now, trying to compensate and make me feel better
so I don't crash out right here. Okay, Green Baker,
get out there again, dude, A little short pass. My
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dude busted for thirty three. Yack Craft was getting all
the yack. He was breaking tackles as stiff arming people.
All Right, my bad, and here's the crazy thing, bro,
They're able to actually get a he'll go to town
before the hat. But no, that ain't even even it's missed.
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He missed it, Thank goodness. He ain't used to kicking
and and actor Stateum. I wanted to say, hynesvie, we're
still up. You know, three to seven? Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Cool, We got a short feel now.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So with the short feel we get enough yardage to
give voss again.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We start loast you go for fifty this time.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Sixty seven six seven six seven and say six seven
six seven.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I was like, I don't know if I like that.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Six seven okay, Green Bay come out and the defense
do it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Stud this. I ain't gonna lie. They did it hot
three and ae and out hot.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Three and now hot threeing out baby Pittsburgh come out
there like dude again, the drive gets started. We get
what was that that five yard loss on the first down, dude,
just blue yes on the morund jail and Warren tried
to toe that. You got seven behind the sticks again, get.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
A false start to on the field goal try. But
we got bobs.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So he said, you know, instead of forty threety eight,
it's forty eight.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I ain't tripping nine seven nine seven.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I'm still feeling I'm still feeling pretty decent about it.
You know what I'm saying, defense, come out, stand up again.
I'm like, whoa were standing up? This is the defense
or the type of defense I'm using.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Three and outs in the rows. Still, it's come out there.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We mix it up a little bit, we get a
little run, we get a little pass, you know what
I'm saying, get a little help on the third down
with the PI which it gives us a first.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know what I'm saying, that's all good here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm like, y'all, we should have maybe used up a
little more of that clock, you know, because we had
three timeouts.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know, we kind of rushed it when.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
DK ended up scoring that touchdown because I don't want
to give them no more time because I know what
we've been doing. We scored a touchdown with DK. It's
sixteen to seven. I'm feeling okay. But even though it's
only thirty four seconds, I know what we have been
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doing this year are.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The giving up exposive plays.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Dude, they get a run of eight and then a
pass of nineteen. TJ get an incidental face mask, another
one of nine, and here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
They about to kick this field goal.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Luckily a field goal kicker is crash. He had a
bad I really appreciate you for that. I really appreciate
you for that. So sixteen seven we go in.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's all you. I'm sicking there.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm saying, I'm feeling. I'm feeling six seven. You feel
because it could have been. It could have been thirteen
to sixteen if he make those two.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Field goals, no for Shure for shut for Shure for shure.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So we come back out still it's got the rock
and then we lose.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Friar moveth yo.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I'm gonna tell you right now, in my head, as
not even in my head me as a person, I
think that's a thirty play.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're hitting that man low. He can't see where you're going, but.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He has he has on the choice. He gotta take
them away, right. That's the way y'all made the shouts.
So I understand on this one too. They didn't get
the off side called. A rod didn't get the off
side call.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
How you don't how you don't get there did y'all
sit down and you discuss and still don't give it
to him?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You still do know, like the man is literally in
the gap when you snap the ball. So that was crazy,
and they had to punt the ball. I think that
right there, it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Was it started getting a little at that that right
there was not a good that was.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It kind of went down downhill there because they get
to get the ball and on the third down, the
third and five, the tight end go damn near sixty
and we.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Whys mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
He running down there with Elliott. He kind of like
pushed them off. He's stumbling looking around. Ah, you got
you gotta make that. You gotta make that play.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Now. On top of that, you let these boys go
ninety yards in nine place.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's fourteen six yep, and it's bad eyes they hit
you on the fourth fo one two H. I ain't
even want something I had that man had to because
that happened. M h.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Still, let's get the bow. Still it's back out there.
So now we get sacked sack from We're lucky. The
review saw that he had the ball, that he really
had control of it, and dude just snatched it up
out of his hands. You know what I'm saying. We
got we we get really nothing after we get the
ball back.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But we got Bankro Boss.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
We got boss Man Boss forty six, nineteen to fourteen.
I'm like, all right, defense, stand up, stand up. We
did whatever we did, it's cool. Now it's time to
stand up. They started letting these cats work.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
He started. Then a big bomb boom, third and seven,
we get thirty three.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Then I think it was even a PI on that,
but they didn't take it. Wasn't that. It wasn't that
the one and they they you know, they declined it.
And then Jacobs.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
He had first played the fourth.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Quarter, he get the little, you know, three yard touchdown
and then the two point conversion.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Bro, did you see that that they didn't they didn't convert, Yes,
they did, they converted that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh they didn't convert the version.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Green Bay twenty two bruh, whole half of the end
zone map.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And now from this, from this point on the fourth
quarters where it got where it got real, aren't you no, dude?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It got bad after this. It was two different halves.
It was the first half in the second half, but
got damn.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That fourth quarter. As soon as it turned to the
fourth guy, ugly dude. We get sacked on the first
so behind the sticks, lost to ten. There's nothing you
could do, like check, we were thrown out.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And then we get an unnecessary reference on the court
like Green Bay you know, gave these dudes another short.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
All on the forty five yard line. Brother four plays later,
bro on all short pass.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, like yards after catch, you're getting it. You got
the he caught the ball and was running and everything
Kraft was getting was after the catch.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, we down twenty nine to nineteen, coach, with with
just what under or over ten minutes left? Under or
over ten minutes left. We are not built to come
back from something like that, especially when our defense is
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not tackling and we're playing trash. I'm trying not to
yell because I'm gonna lose my voice. We come back out,
get the rock right second down, we get a what
was it so dj oh? Yeah, we get ourunnecessary rougherence
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on DK three and all we gotta punt the ball again.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I said, Now this is when because, like you said,
in the second half, this when I was listening to announcement,
they was like this, this has been eighteen straight come depletions,
and then they just started talking about had said. This
is the point where they started talking about how many completions.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
My man had.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I was like, oh my god, I wasn't really counting,
but nobody's dropping the ball, dude.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They come in.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They burned off a hot almost three and a half minutes,
and damn field.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Goal kicker make like he want to be able to start,
like he can kick the damn out. Then yep, yeah,
so he hit the field goal. We're down thirty two
to nineteen.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
We hit the ball, man fumble and you let Green
Bay come game well, strip.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No yo. After that, I ain't even lie to you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I knew it was over with Green Bayes added insult
entry and added another three points with the field goal.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Thirty five nineteen.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know we scored, you know, we scored one of
those touchdowns where you up there defense playing prevent, you.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Know, trying to make sure they taking you inside.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Do all that stuff, burn off the clock, you know,
end up being twenty five to thirty five for all
intention purposes, the game over. They kneel down, it's done,
it's done.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They gotta get they definitely they ended it with a first.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They ran for totally for a good first down and
kneel that thing on out.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
What is happening?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Like Pittsburgh Stellers are built on defense, you go back
to defense. Your defense is not the ones that's supposed
to be letting you down. I don't know when, I
don't know if I've ever seen the defense be this bad. Dude,
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we can't tackle nobody like we did okay in the
first half, sure, far better than we have like, and
then the second half, Dude, we just totally collapsed, like
we're on the field in the second half almost twenty minutes. Bro,
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first half it was barely twelves. Have changed, Like they
converted no third downs. I think we was four to
no on third downs in the first half. The second half, man,
these boys went five to eight. They only missed three
of them things. And then on top of that, Bro,
green Bay take away the last possession had eleven possessions, Bro,
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it was only two where they no, I take it back,
it was only three where they had to punt. And
the crazy thing is they could have scored on all
of them, but dude, missed two field goals. Like we
are not stopping anyone from doing anything.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Love well, was he three sixty.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I think they only averaged three fifty nine three tugs
and win' sacking one time, not once, Like he only
threw six five or six balls that were above or
ten yards and more airtime bro.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Everything else is jack.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Giving up way too many points?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like they didn't run the ball, but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Have to and they aren't a running defense anyway there
I mean offense, they're like fifteen.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They mid passion.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I mean they didn't do a bad job running the
ball though Jacobs and other Jacobs in twenty three they
were toting that pill. Twenty three was totaling that joint
two for show like him and Jacobs was toting. He
was able to get the ball off fast their offense
in the first half.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I wasn't as mad, you know what I'm saying, Like
they no, I was like, okay, I saw, I was concerned,
but I wasn't dripping and it was just more too
for me.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The offense didn't have any anytime we got behind the sticks,
like the penalties the first down runs when we're only
getting maybe one yard. If we're getting stopped behind the backfield,
then it's like the drives always get killed with that
and then we were able to win with when Bob's
getting those field goals, but we got to be able
to score touchdowns instead of keep getting field goals.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Do you know what I'm saying, Bruh, I totally understand
what you're saying. Don't get me wrong. We got some
offensive issues, like we were what one of ten on
third downs one of eleven something like that, Like we
can't keep drives together.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We stalled out. And when we can keep.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
A drive together, or we're looking like we're able to
keep a drive together, we get penalties that stop it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Right, we are freaking cooked, Like we're cooked. That was not.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, we're the thirtieth ranked defense in the NFL. We're
the highest paid defense in the NFL. Those two things
don't go.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
This is this is why, this is why I'm with.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You with with the de sday night.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
What the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Let me tell you, with the defense debot, a lot
of it is eyes miscommunications. They're people like you know what, coach,
don't get beat to the flat tight ends running fast
to the flat by theirself. You know what I'm saying.
It's a lot of eye discipline. It's a lot of simple, simple, things.
It's like when people are running scott free through the defense,
you can see like play actions. Those things are people
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people just running all around them. I'm like, dude, you
got to be able to have your eyes in the
right spot because people are running scott free.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Through the defense.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So they're the The people are there, The players are there,
but they're not playing at They're not playing at a
high level.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Do you know what I'm saying? Like something they they
have to they have to perform better. They have to.
How you how you don't.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Get up for Sunday night football if you can't get
up for nothing else, ain't nothing else on but you
home in front of your family, your kids.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I would not do.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Not make that name on your back means something, make
the free stars on your testments.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It wasn't me not performing. It wasn't me not performing.
I'm just trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Let you know.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's why I'm I'm like you said, I think I
could think I could be like your your counselor bro.
Because it's okay, it's all, It's all gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Everything is still okay, Joe. You came from a line
of losers. Y'all gonna always be losing.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Damn. Now you being disrespectful. Now you're being disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm trying to, I'm trying to trying to just be
here for you, and then you're just going that's.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
A personal attack. I'm I feel you up here for you,
by brother, Listen, my voice gone.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They don't they don't listen, you know, have me have
my kids up late, They had my kids up for the.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yea out there. On top of that, my son done
came to the game. He blew.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Listen, man, he got a sublexation of his right shoulder.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Now he down again. This is this is gonna be
for surgeries in eighteen months.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
This dude doesn't miss basically all the last almost two
and a half years of football. It's his senior year.
This is the toughest moetherfucker I know in my life. Dude,
and you hurt y'all, y'all don't give us nothing to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Hi, Yeah, man, come on, I don't know, de bo.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It wasn't what I it wasn't. Yeah, Offense got to
do better. Defense got to do better. They got to
look at the tape. But end of the day, he man,
things got to get changed. People gotta go wis paid
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thirtieth rank, don't match. I don't know what needs to happen,
but we need to go ahead and maybe so redo
this whole, this whole thing, and and and and get
something else going. I think we also need on offense.
We've got to get somebody else besides DK. We got
to get a true a true true too, you know,
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one a one and a half. At one point I
asked you this though, do you think do you think
you know George Pickens with him having that off the.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you right now, we
have kept him for the loan, were still the loan.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I don't care all that came with Pickings outside of
the actual incidents on the field with you know, basically
it came down to a the play issue was the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He can do what he can do. That's that's not
the issue. It was.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It was the head, It was the maturity, all that
other stuff like right now, I am like I would
have dealt with all that, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And guess what I'm saying too.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
The only reason why I'm saying it is he knows
he has to ball out to be able to get
another contract. You're paying him six hundred thousand, seven hundred
thousand dollars this year to be able to be a
number two. To know he knows he's gonna have to
get the back he's gonna be gone. So I would
deal with that for five hundred six hundred thousand to
have a real another threat. That's all I'm saying. If
you know you're not gonna pay him, just keep them
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while you still got him for the low and then
let him go because you still got a rod you
got DK.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Just keep them, you know what I'm saying. Don't just
dispense him for no reason.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I was just kept him for that one year and
then had him like that, because right now, it would
be really nice to have George Pickens on the.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Team, Dude, it would Yeah, it would be great, great
right now.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
If they could figure out a way to.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Incorporate management of different personalities and how you have to
you know, work with that, I think we're getting, you know,
even it's just.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Across the league. You look at look at Stephan Diggs.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You let a guy do something here, he gets used
to doing that, and when he can't do that, he
may start acting out. Now, Stephan went from here to
there to there and now all you hear is positive
things about him. He took that time to make sure
understand that it's not them as me and he was.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Able to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And I think Pickings may be in a situation right
now where he's like, you know what, he maybe he
had to have that move for him to be able
to realize that, hey, I need to do ABC and
not X y Z.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And now you know he's in that position.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But I mean, I don't know if you know he
could have did that here because of you know what
he was able to do or not do here.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
The only reason why if it's if it's anybody, now
you've got a rod like I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
This was another weapon. Yeah, yeah, I can't. Yeah, thirty
what we're done. Gave up thirty something in the last
five four, five six games. That's that is not Stiller defense.
That is not Stiller football. Nothing about that correlates to
(25:28):
the Black and Go nothing nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, you correct on it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
At least I got something good to talk about. The
Browns got you the worst, bro, literally, I mean well,
I mean, I'm sorry the Browns ended up losing to
the Patriots thirty two to thirteen. Joe, I, I actually was,
you know, a little concerned that they might be able
(26:00):
to do something, especially you.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Know when I went out there right after go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'll let you, I'll let you do your thug this
one that you know, I'll let you get excited because.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You only got eight.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Only thing you got to be excited about us, you know,
maybe the first half.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, honestly, Debo, Honestly I had the first quarter. I'm
gonna go with the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I was. I was good. I was good to go
whole first quarter.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Excited, Yah, so happy, like like okay, okay, you know
what I'm saying, all right, let's just let's just let's
get to the game. So they started our Patrios got
the ball first, you know, twelve plays and this is
that we're ben. But don't break on the brown Secondary
Henderson was running the ball. May they ended up getting
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down there, but we ended up making three stops. Miles
Garrett got his first sack, you know what I'm saying,
the third down field goal.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So good. They started off Ben, but don't break they
made some plays.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Three out Browns get the ball all right, first drive,
dry the ball all the way down. We make some
and this is the part too. I'm Dylan Gabriel. He
didn't throw he didn't have to throw the ball too
far down air passes, no air yards was not a lot.
But we were able to get some runs. We was
able to get some sweeps. And then he threw a
(27:15):
touchdown pass and it was really offensive play call and
we were scheming this. We threw some jets the just
he was.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Kind of wide open when he came out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Ran the seventh round. So we up seven to three
off rip. Good happy Patriots get the ball back.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know what I'm saying, Hey, let me stop you
for a minute. Let me stop. I got a phone.
Go I ain't gonna say he where's from? Okay?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And they was geeked excited, you know, they was real
geek decided. They said, oh oh oh.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
What happened? What happened? What's going on? I said, listen,
it's early. It's early. Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Even a broke clock is right once a day. Now,
the sun shine on every dog's ass once in a.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Way, Go on, head.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Bring, Yes, hilarious, But I actually was a little geek.
So then Patriots come back out. Brown's defense gets to
stop on third and one trying to run through Boom.
Good stop. Browns get the ball back, punt incomplete passes,
you know, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay, so yeah, we pun the game. Now this is
where all.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Right, the Patriots they they my man the linebacker, we
got Carson Swaringer. He gets a pick on it and
we bring it back to the thirty four yard line
seventy three. So I'm like, defense is still bawling. Now,
this is our time to make a good play. We
get down to third and Joe, what happens is we
get to a third and five, and that's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Saying, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
My man is running Scott free down the sideline and
he throws the ball out of and carries him out
of bounds. I don't think you could see over the
line or nothing, but it was enough time for him
to stand up in the pocket and just throw the
ball into the end zone. He drips it and throws
out of bounds, and then you know what we do.
We missed the field goal and after from the pick
from the defense, from the turn of it, like, yeah,
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to get the ball on thirty four yard lines to
not get no points.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So as you know what that is. That's just bad ball,
that's what that is. That's the Browns man go ahead.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
So then the Patriots. So then the Patriots get the
ball back. You know what I'm saying, dry the ball,
doing good. Our secondary just bemb but don't break. They
still made a couple of plays running down the field,
Miles Garrett another sack, his second sack. And then as
they only we only bember, don't break, we give up
another field goal. It's seven to six. Like the defense
(29:44):
is hooping. We're putting them in positions to win. We
already got a turnover into the red zone and offense
didn't give us no points, didn't give us nothing from it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Okay, I'm getting okay.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Browns get the ball again, third and four, can't convert
what punt? We punt it back to the pace. That's
a damn shame they get. The Patriots are doing good.
They get a false start on third and one. What
makes it third and six? And then we make another play.
Make them punt the ball again.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You're here.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It's a lot of punts, a lot of Patriots now
punting the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
They're getting to the red zone. They're getting three, so
they only have six points right now. The Browns defense
is continuing the ball, then Brown's ball. Browns get the
ball back again. And this is where I'm looking at
coach Safanski, like what what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
The play calling Dylan gamb Will does a good scram
while we get a first down, and then he starts
doing the first first down, We do a flea flicker.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, what are you doing? Second down? My man? My man.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Juckiins gets a run lost the yarders in the fourth down.
I mean, we try to do a double pass and
I actually laughed at it because it looked crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I knew it wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
So we get nothing out of that punt. Patriots get
the ball back. May does his thing create some plays.
Miles Garrett, it's another sack going before halftime.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
They get another.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Field goal, so we don't so all this is they
scored three field goals. They continue to get to the
red zone. It's just defense. Keep stepping up, keep standing up.
Miles Garrett keeps making plays, bending below break. They're making
some plays. They're getting big yard chunk plays on us,
but we're not letting them score. Offense isn't answering now,
Now it's a whole. Now is where I want to talk.
(31:26):
I mean, go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
This win.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So it was nine to seven, okay, and now defense
is bawling. They keep on getting you positions, but eventually
the damn is gonna break. I mean, how much how
many times can I keep you like? You know what
I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I need you. You scratch my back, I scratch your back.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's what I normally like, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm just trying to tell you. The quarterback for for
the Patriots, Dylan Dylan Gabriel, was given giving them the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He was he was throwing it to his teammates over there. Hey,
I was always talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
The one thing I did say abou Dylan Gabriel was
he didn't turn the ball over.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And something changed in this second half of the game.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
He wasn't not only helping us, he was also hurting
us in a way of tossing the ball to the
other team. And I think I see why he doesn't
throw the ball too far down the field because when
he threw that deep ball to covered man.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That one hand picked it like Odell.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I was like, whoa, maybe this is why you only
throw the ball check down, little drag rouse.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That was not good. That did not look on time.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It looked like you almost threw your shoulder out of socket.
So I mean, we're gonna get to that play. We
start off. The Browns get the ball. We come out
third and nine. It just looked like a bad scramble.
Two receivers in the same position tipped it in complete punt.
Then the Patriots get the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What do we do? On defense?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We started we started letting people run through us. Henderson
was running through the defense in the second half like
shredded cheese. And it was actually a little it was.
It was sad to see bad eyes by the second,
eyes by the secondary, eyes by the secondary. They went
seven plays, seven plays, seventy seven yards for a touchdown.
(33:18):
It was a lot of like like the same thing
I was saying for the Steelers. On defense, it looked
like the Browns with eye discipline.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
People running Scott free. You know who your man is.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You could tell when you're looking you see somebody looking
like this, and then they have to go and run
the other way. I'm like this, dude, you're not looking
at your job, you know what I'm saying. So it
was a lot of great switches, a lot of people
just missing where their man was. Went down there sixteen
to seven, right, So they ended up scoring and the
score goes to sixteen to seven, and then the Browns
get the ball back. This is our second drive. So
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the first one we didn't do nothing. We got three
and out. And the next series, this one, it starts
to get real bad. Gabriel throws a drag route two
yards behind the receiver. Behind the receiver, Robert Splickak picked
the joint off, smiling like like a like a kid
on Christmas Day, and starts running it back into the
trying trying to run back to the end zone.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I told you he got confused because he was he
thought he.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Was playing run it back to the seven yard line. Okay,
Miles Gary gets his fourth sack. Then my man, uh
Tyrone Campbell gets hurt, and then Digs gets a touchdown.
So now the score is twenty three seven, and it's
and it's and it's getting and it's getting ugly fast.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Okay, what happened on that next drive? Right, Okay, we
couldn't really get nothing going.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
And this is I'm talking about the Patriots' talking the Patriots.
Next drives, Oh it was it was another it was
another TD to Booty? What what happened?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
What happened? Because I you know, I think that was
that was a long drive. Yeah, it was a lot,
It was a lot. Drake May was scrambling.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
They had a forty nine yard uh forty nine yard
play twenty seven twenty eight yard play?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Uh yeah, so the thirties and seven depot. Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
From this point, from there, it just started getting the
uglier and uglier fourth quarter starts. Browns get the ball,
good scam, I just turnover on down.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And what's this? What's this? What's this joke with?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
This man's a safety? We didn't we didn't get a
safety though, did we? Oh yeah yeah we did. Yeah
we did know we didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's just from that point, Hey, Joe crashing a little
bit right there, I don't want the only one it was.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It was you was a little more disgusted than what
you thought. Huh hey, this is the crazy it took us.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah he did, he damn sure did. He definitely took
a safety. He was in there his zone trying to
throw the ball away to nobody. Now, this is why
I'm trying to tell you. You're getting a little more upset
over this.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You're giving me all this bullshit about oh the stealers,
this that d it ain't bad, woo woo woo, and
then you just fucking crashed right there.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, you know why, Debo, you want some of that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You know this, this is this is what it was
that Browns game though, it just.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It was it was it was two halves.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I just felt the defense they ended up they were
going to fold, you know, and then but the but
on the offensive.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Side, hold on, hold on, how you go fold? You know, No,
you're not.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You're not. You're not going to fold. They need to play.
They have to play elite every single snap. Like the
reason why when I'm watching the Steelers and I don't
get as emotional because I know on the offensive side
of the ball, when you have Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna
be able to make something happen, you know what I'm saying.
Like he's gonna be able to use his feet, he's scrambling,
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he's throwing the ball down the field Like I've seen it.
I know that he's capable of it. I know that
he's working on it. I know that he's one of
the best to ever do it. So that's why.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Oh so you're saying you just ain't got no no, no, no,
it's not that. I mean not that I don't got
no hope.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But with Dylan Gabriel, I mean, if we're thinking that
he's going to be the way, the reason why the
Browns can continue and get better, and then it didn't
help at all that Junkins had nine carries for nineteen yards.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
We couldn't get ahead of the sticks at all. Offense
just looked.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Bad, period, Like it wasn't his, It wasn't only Dylan Gabriel,
it was the offensive line, wasn't wasn't given the wasn't
given my man Jumkins a chance to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
So it was all it was just all bad on Oh.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I mean, you still gave up like almost one hundred
and eighty yards rushing on that number one defense. I believe,
uh you know that's not no. No dude too, you know,
I think old dude only had like maybe what nineteen
carries for about eighty yards. It was busting yard in
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the head that I think what Henderson was like, he
got a and it.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Was too late. We gotta play good. Yeah, oh yeah,
you can't. And that's the and that's when you don't.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
When you know you're not gonna score any points, you
can't give up and you get.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
All of that stuff is gonna matter. So we gotta
look at your table.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
You mean, like Ben, but don't break a lot of
the times he did get a bunch of those yards,
they didn't score. He kept them out of the end zone.
But some of the passing, we got to keep those
passing touchdowns tho our disciplines, you.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Know what I'm saying. We got to keep them dudes
out of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So yeah, and you know what's crazy though, Drake made
that boy went eighteen for twenty four for two eighty
two and y'all sacked.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Him six times. He still went on here.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Got three toes and threw a pick to y'all, said here,
I'm gonna give y'all something to give you a little
bit of hope.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Then were gonna snap what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You know, once you get that pick and bringing when
you get to pick, run.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
The ball back to the thirty four yard line and
you get nothing. You just listen. You just come back
out to the.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Board sitting over there, and he's like, yo, may through
a pick. I ain't gonna let this boy out do me.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I gotta throw too, I gotta throw too the.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Bother And you know that's that's what uh you know,
that's that's just what happens.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
But your boy Miles there, you know he was a
little frustrated with losing, you know, despite having five sacks. Hey, Miles,
I understand your frustration. But when you signed that contract,
you knew you.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Signed for the money. You can be frustrated all you want.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
If you were really that frustrated, tell them you'll give
them back some money if you if they trade you
to a contender. You ain't that frustrated, though, you knew
you signed up to get that money, play your game.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And lose, because that's what the Browns did.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
At least you're getting paid extremely well, extremely well well
for a team that you know ain't gonna really go nowhere.
I mean you said you love the game and all
that other stuff and you want to win, but you.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Ain't love it enough to turn that money down. Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I mean, so we can't. You know, I understand you
go be frustrating, dobody like losing. You know what I'm saying.
I don't like losing either, But I can't say that either.
If I had to lose, I would love to get
paid a whole lot more.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
But I've been in a situation where I've won them
and lost them, and I would far give up way
more money to win them than I would should lose them.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, I think in my situation, man, like.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Obviously when you had those contract negotiations, you knew before
it happened, like you can be able.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
This is your time.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You need to get up out of there. You want
to get out of there. You've been there for seven
years when I was there. If you don't feel like
the organization is really doing moving in the right steps,
this organization that you see like Kansas City spots that
continuously are making playoff runs, continuously win the Super Bowls
during that time, Miles, when it's now your contract is
about to be up, you cannot sign nothing and just
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wait until you can go to a free agent or
till they got to try to franchise tag you. But
you can hold to your really life. No, I'm not
going to play here. Once you get there, you're in there.
You know what I'm saying, especially with what you were
telling everyone, I just don't want to I want to
be with a contender. I want to do this. I
want to win. It's not about the money. And then
(41:31):
you let them hit you with the money, all money.
And this is the part I would say with Myles too.
He was going to get that money from any team.
Any team would have paid Miles twenty million dollars a.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Year, anybody. Hey, but a bird hand is one of
the bird in the feather.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I feel you, but that but that's what But that's
the part where I'm saying I'm with you, Debot. I'm
with you because you keep if you saying that I
want to be with a contender, like I'm trying to
go go somewhere, I want to go win.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
And then you sign with the Browns again, I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Like, what did they tell you that that makes you
think that the direction was going to be different than
what was been there the last seven years that you
were there. Like, now that you're there, you can't I mean,
you can be sad that you're losing, but it's like
you kind of know what you signed up for because
it hasn't been different than any other thing that you've
done since you've been there. Like you gonna hoop, that's
not I'm nobody's questioning that. But the losing is still
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going to come with you going all pro every year.
You still going, you know what I'm saying, all the
Pro Bowls, right, So that's just the part where I'm like,
you know, if you really was like wanting to go
win and I know and I'm not and I'm not
saying that he doesn't. I know he wants to bring
in Cleveland, that would be the best because they you
would be You're gonna be idolized because they never want
so you I want to do when they're you, you
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would be idolized. You're gonna be good. But don't now
say like you got to be all.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
In it now.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
You got to be like, yeah, well in there, we're ownership, Like, man,
what's up what we're doing here?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Like because you in there, you're not going nowhere? Come on,
now you're talking about he got to be in there
with ownership. You've been there, Joe. You think they're gonna
let that man in there with ownership.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
He got his forty they paying him his money.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm just saying I want, I want to stick with
the Browns. But I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You said, Dylan gabro it's not the reason they're winning,
as long as he's not the reason they're losing. Right now,
I see him as the reason that they're losing. Do
you believe that sha Door should remain the backup? They
say they're gonna stick with Dylan started, do you believe
Shad Door should get a shot.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I believe that Shador should definitely.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I mean, now it's about time me to should Door
be able to should be able to get his shot.
I think they're gonna they're going into the bye week,
they're coming off of a bye week, and I think
they're playing the Dolphins when they come off their bye week.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
So I know they're not.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Going to give Shador his shot. Because coaches all in
for Dylan Gabriel. They're gonna give him as many opportunities
as possible. And I think if if it was a
game and they knew that Shador was gonna come off
a bye week, give him that whole week to study
at for Miami. I think he might come out there
and looking looking sweet. So I mean, I think that
it's about that time that he should be able to
go out there and play.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Because Dylan hasn't proven to be look.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
For sure franchise quarterback but not adding any real he's
not helping us, but now he's starting to Now he's
starting to hurt the team.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, I mean, what you go do? Y'all?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Already two and six, you know your your last in
the AFC. North of course, Pittsburgh is still sitting on
top for now. We're four and three. But I'm with you,
like maybe maybe they giving it one think they're gonna
give him one more week for sure, you.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Know, and they when they play the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Speaking of the Dolphins, the Dolphins went out there and
Miley wopped uh Atlanta thirty four to ten. Bro to
It said he woke up with a swollen nye. Glad
he was able to play.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
He said, I went out there and did this to
you boys with my eyes shut.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's basically what he's saying. I mean, that's that's what
I got from it.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
We do. I mean, at which what what what did
you get from that statement.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
That he you know, I woke over my eyes and
went on out there and put put put the whammy
on him. And also I really think that Atlanta came
in there and thinking it's the Dolphins, dude, thinking that
he's sweet, thinking it was sweet, dude, Like you don't
realize you ain't got phenix. You know, he's not playing
(45:25):
this game. You're sitting up there with cousins, you know.
And then it's just un like, uh, Bjon, he didn't
he didn't do at all.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Man, I ain't gonna lie to you that Dolphins Dolphins
defense and didn't act like they was the worst defense.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
They came out there and balled out.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
M hm mean they held j on the twenty five
yards Brodie on nine carries.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what it was, dude
they got. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
They probably stood up, put their foot on the ground,
you know, and said, you know what, man, enough is enough, y'all.
I used to have a shirt in college like we
was getting whooped so bad. Bro Our slogan for that
year was enough, I swear, brother, But I know that's dude,
It's horrible, bruh. But it was the thing was tough
is enough, dude. I'm like, yeah, that's not, that's not
(46:19):
it'd be like that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Sometimes it was total to rock on them.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
They ran for one forty one two through for fur
tds twenty for twenty six two o five.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Dude, he took right for only only on twenty completions.
That boy got folk and it was only two hundred yards.
It's like maybe two five. Maybe you need to do
a pirate thing. Just wear a patch over his eye
before the game, be like I can't see, and then
when he go back out there, you know he work,
you know, working magic.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I don't I think it was two. Though.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
At the end of the day, their run game did good,
like you said, they ran for the Dolphins ran for
one forty one. They said the first in the first
quarter that td driver was thirteen plays seventy nine yards
for eight minutes and thirty seconds, and they did ten
And they did ten runs on that drive. So you
can be able to if you come in that joint,
like you said, man, just establish dominance, run the ball,
(47:13):
hand it off directly, and walk it down the field
taking off time like that's two.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
It didn't have to really, you ain't gonna have to
do too much. And that's gonna open.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Up that play action to where like you see Waddle
all them dudes, them bang eights, them quick play actions
where Water was able to catch that like fifty some
yard touchdown catch. He was like catching it because they
running the ball so well. Play action able to have
the linebackers to chew it up and just toss it
behind him.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, for sure, let's go on over here. Listen to
Jets just went on here.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
It came back and in the Bengals Cincinnati, Yeah, be
Cincinnati thirty nine to thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I was a little questionable on why he was going
for two, but nah, see why he was going for two.
That's why I guess you started doing things just get
that win. You know, if he hadn't did that to
win in the overtime, they let they let Joe go
in and do it.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Just feels he was.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
He was crying on the ground after Woodie Johnson's criticism
calls it outside noise after leading it just to his
first win.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
We got some sound, We got the sound for that.
Let's play that yesterday. I'm praying from praying like crazy,
just just for when, just for when. And you know
this this, I'm gonna get pretty boner right right here.
But uh, this week, I kind of, you know, I
(48:33):
found myself in my closet crying on the ground, laying down.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Not because of.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
Not because of the hardships, not because of the troubles.
I felt like, you know, I was built to handle that,
and I was put in place to handle this situation.
But in that moment when I was talking to my
best friend, you know how hard it was and just
you know, not wavering faith wise, yes, that was your
So I was just praying over and over and over again,
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like yo, like this is just one one win.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, I don't know about I don't know about praying
for a win.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I pray for I pray for health, I pray for protection,
you know, being being safe for injury.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I don't know if the prayer for win is the
thing to go. I think if that's the case, everybody
prayed for win, somebody go lose.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah. So I mean it's uh, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
But you know what happened is y'all y'all started running
the ball down them boys throats. You know, you started
you started being able to make some connections.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
You know, here and there.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
And the big thing is Cincinnati's defense did what Cincinnati's
defense had done the previous before, last week, the previous weeks,
all before that.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
And you know that's they got to stand up.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
That's not yeah, that's that's not what you want. And
the offense, you know, I mean with Joe over there, dude,
they're they're nice.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
It's just they got to get the defense.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
The defense. Defense. You still need defense, Pittsburg. You need defense.
Your defense got to go out there and do their
job too.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
They got to it.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Well, if you score thirty eight points, like in no
situation you're feeling like you should ever lose these games,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
They had almost one hundred and eighty one hundred and
eighty five yards of Russian dude like Flacco was two.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Thirty to twenty twenty three two touchdowns Like that is not.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
A performance that you should be using.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Dude, like you're you're talking about over four hundred yards
of offense, bro yep. And you know what your defense boys,
they they said, we can top that.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
We can give up five five hundred and two yards
two point fifty five on the ground, two forty seven
in the air, like like you're not gonna win like that, brother,
I don't care how much Joe Flacco throwing at the
Chase and Higgins, like, you gotta be able to stand up.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
And I think that's where dude, Chase had twelve targeted
nineteen times.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
That's what I'm saying. They can own it and they eating,
but you stay scored. You still taking an L cause
you got to be able to make a stop. You
got to stop somebody at some point of the game.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
It ain't and it's not just one stop, dude, you
gotta be You gotta be cons for sure on your stop.
You have to have a high rate of consistency of
stopping people when you When you don't do that and
you get that one stop, you know, it's like, Okay,
that's cool, we did it. And now say the offense
don't go out and and make.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
The points or they don't do it would need to be.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Done to get you back in that position, like you
got to come back out and make that stop again.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
I say this all the time.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
If the defense do they job, they are the only
ones who can both stop and score.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Like I am Hella.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Hella bent On if you do your job one hundred percent,
there's no way we can lose this game. And I
think that's how that's just the mindset that we had
when I.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Played for the Stellers.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
It's like, Okay, the offense ain't doing nothing right now, cool,
what we gotta do. We gotta go sack fum, we
get a touchdown, we gotta get a pick, we gotta score.
We got to put them in a position to be
able to score on a short field, an easy touchdown,
Like we.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Got to go out here and make it happen.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
And we were able to do that, and right now
we can't stop you from going one hundred yards down
the field.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
And it's disgusting, dude.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
It is the most sickening feeling in your stomach to
know that when your defense steps on the field, if
it's close, you're like sixcess. I don't know what it's
going to happen, but I know in the pit of
my stomach, I'm thinking they about to go down here
to score, and.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
That's gonna be it because we cannot stop. Dude. They
cutting through us like a knife through hot butter. Dude.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
And then when we get in position to be able
to stop it. We can't even tackle the guys. I
think it was like five or six plays where somebody
broke at least three tackles like that is not your.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Job is to tackle like that's it, bruh.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
And when you when they make a catch, security tackle
get them down.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
All this yet is crazy and it wasn't like that.
And I ain't gonna lie them.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Those Packers receivers aren't like oh nothing, It ain't no
all pros out there.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
It ain't. It ain't no you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
That not not to knock them at all, but you
know what I'm saying. They and they're not Jamar Chase,
you know what I'm saying. They more just guys that
are nice and they lead the NFL receivers.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Like we need help. Maybe we can pray people, maybe
God will care.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I'm telling you to take us a good defense again,
like justin pray for the win. Yeah they just got maybe,
but I don't think so a lot of things you
can ask for now.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Them dudes, I think, man, yeah, they got to start
watching it a lot, Like I said, de Bo, like
like you know a lot of this stuff too, isn't
just like the Scott Free stuff the eyes, the eye discipline.
They need to that that's something that that's something that
they can prove on. That's something you can literally at
practice do like but keep your eyes on your man
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like trying to make sure like not getting confused because
a lot of this stuff is getting beat to the flats,
is getting coming down on the run thinking in the
play actions.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
You're just not reading your keys, you know what. And
I believe Cam says something about about effort. I guess
he was saying he did he didn't think that the
effort was there.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
And he's on the inside, So I mean, I think
that's something that somebody may want to ask him if
he wants to elaborate on.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
No, for sure, you know sure.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
I mean that it's not it's not too hard to
see who's getting beat, who's missing assignments on every single play.
You know how it is, debo when you go to
those defensive meetings after those games. Yes, that each play
coach is sitting right next to people and you're getting
checks and excess and like I'm gonna like, what are
these meetings looking like? Who's getting addressed? Like this is
(55:50):
not okay? These plays, and like, why is it a
coaching thing? The coach is not telling them what to
be looking at? Are they correcting the players?
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Are they not? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (55:59):
I will I will say this though, I know that
this is not the defense that we used to have.
It is not that that true DICKLB fire zone defense
that had rules and schemes.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
This is this is some new this is what this
is what, this is what TA putting up now?
Speaker 2 (56:18):
I know when I got back back and forteen, even
when uh, you know, uh, coach the boy had just
they had just you know, letting go.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
It was changed.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
They had try and they had tried to change things
to make it easier for guys.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
To play and not have to think.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
But dude, if you don't have a complicated system or
defense and be able to execute and understand it, and
you try and change one thing for this person and
one thing for that person, you put too many gaps
and holes in the defense and you're not gap sound.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
And when you're not gap sound, you're not able to
stop anything. Dude.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
And on top of that, like we couldn't even stop
a little simple two point conversion because it was nobody
on that half of field, like they're not understanding or
they're both not understanding, and with that not understanding, you
can't execute it correctly.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, some got some gotta shake because it looks I
gotta give.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
We have players, dude, like, we have players that can
make plays like and then when we're in position, they.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
Have to make these play like those miss tackles.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Bro that I'm going to sit there and tackle all
day on Wednesday, we're going live, like to the ground live.
It's none of that. To the ground, it's none of that.
Oh I tagged them off and I made it. No,
we're not doing that one money. And then on top
of bruh, listen, I'm gonna crash out. I told you, dude,
(58:01):
I told you we.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Are down bad. We down bad, bad bad.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
And on top of that, the Ravens won, they beat
the Bears. They looking like they defense no, like they
ask what they do though what they do? They say, Hey,
we're getting rid of everything that y'all got that is
not conducive to us being able to play football directed
(58:28):
to football, PlayStation's gone, gaming's going, all that gone. Everything
you do in here is going to be about playing ball,
understanding ball, and focused on ball.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
I don't care about your free time.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
Your free time here should be when you eat, and
in between that you should be.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Learning, talking to each other, figuring.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
Out what it is you're supposed to do on every
single thing that you have going on, and do They
won the game thirty to sixteen bro Day Day or
Henry about twenty twenty five or something like that. With smart,
you got a quarterback in there who can do the
sort of things that Lamar.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Where he can move, he can move around, he could
like he looks lively.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yes, yes, that's what you gotta do. Lamar Jackson offense.
You put a Lamar Jackson is You're not gonna have
Lamar Jackson, but you're gonna put somebody in there that
can move his legs and like shape move around.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
I ain't tripping that bad though, because of anybody winning.
I would prefer to be the Ravens versus anybody else,
because they were like dead last and now they're like
maybe third or something.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
I'm cool.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I'm cool with that, you know, so I ain't tripping
the Eagles. They ended up whopping on the Giants, but
the Giants lost.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
They lost. They lost man up to that man, that's
you know, stataboo. Sorry, it's scatter bo got boo.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, I said, I said scatter boom de bo e boat.
That's why I was trying to make it rhyme. They
lost scatter blue on that on that it looked crazy.
You had this whole little ankle. Yeah, Jayalen hurts though
he fomped on the touch push wrong?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So what you officials wrongly?
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Rude forward progress stopped on the touch push.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
You think they need to. This is my thing.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
At some point when you do the touch push or
any of those type of things, you get stopped boom,
and then that's when dude comes and push you behind.
Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
If that's the case, as soon as he gets stopped,
it's just done.
Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
So the.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Touch push it then eliminates push. That's yes, yes, I
don't know. I'm over the touch.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Push Competition committee might want to might want to look
at that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
No for sure, because like you said, if he initially
stops the thing momentum and then you and then the
people run up behind him, it's already done.
Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Stop it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Like I feel like they always getting a little full
or progress winnings. They're going backwards or the ball falls out.
Whistle whistle, whistle, like it's real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
For we at that point before we got out of here, Joe,
I think you have some videos to show me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
What's that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Up before we get out of there. Congrats to our
giveaway winners. You gotta breathe and Addie.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Here they go.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Hey, some great seats right there back.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah, they got they got you out there, debo. Bro,
that's when.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Everything was, it was getting ready, it was live. That's
why my voice like this. Bro, there they go, Hey,
but I got But I hope y'all had a great time.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Bro. But I got Eddie proposed to his now fiance
Nikki and he did it at debo.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Jersey the ticket winner. Wow, I think so, brother. Let
me see that and let me he got a hat
that I got Eddie.
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Okay, congratulations on manhood, said no, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Man h match debo, go ahead, debo. You know what
I'm saying, I'm making I make I'm making marriage. And
that's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
What I'm saying, love is love, Love is in the air.
Love us in the air. Even though it's no w's
you ain't like bron Listen, we want to thank y'all
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Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
And Joe same Monday Night Football. We're gonna be here
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Welcome to Depo and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys
like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How
you doing today, Joe, I ain't gonna lie. Man. It
was a tough It was a tough football Sunday.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I know it was, but like you you, the Steelers
got smacked. Both of our teams got whooped. My Browns
got wood and the Steelers got whooped. So you know,
I know you like you, you told me previous to
the show that I'm used to this that was so much,
so much. I understand because it's like I know'm You're
(00:47):
gonna be able to live a fight. That's the that's
the one thing about the Steelers fans being able to
play for this.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You're so used to here, man, listen here, listen here,
used to win it. Yeah, yes, yes, that is true.
That is true. Okay, But I'm also used to my defense,
our defense, the Stellers defense, being the reason that we win,
not the reason that we lose. My voice a little
(01:12):
scratch because I was at the game. I do the
I come out the tunnel I do the walk, you
know how come through stair through here, stare through here,
give me all that, we're all the tie, all that
gas them up. We're going. I think it's I'm feeling
the energy. I'm like, we got this. This is what
(01:32):
just what's about to go down? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
We lose? We lose.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We lose, and the score ain't even really it don't
say how bad we lost because we we scored the
trash touch.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You you went to the game last night.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I went to the game last night. But you call
me doing the Browns game. You're telling me that you
was at the crib before that. That was before you
went to the still.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Getting ready, I'm getting Yeah, that's two different people like no, yeah,
I'm listen, Lord, I'm going trying and not cuss.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I promise you I am. But let's get to it.
Then de bo I might crash.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So listen, bro, I'm sitting there at the game man
and and I do the call out. I come out
in tunnel is going everything. I'm getting the field, you
know what I'm saying. I'm like, whoa, I'm I'm I'm
I done. Told myself, like, you know, maybe I could
go out here for three snakes, you know, you know,
get up.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
To the top, bro, sit down, Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They win, They get the ball first man, defense come
out there. It was third and one. I'm like, I'm
a little dude. We hold, we hold. I'm like, man,
you need that. Yes, I'm like, yo, this this this
is this is this is looking more like still the
football brother. Still, let's get out there, man. We get
(03:01):
a tackle eligible throw to the tackle to let him
know that we ain't just bringing him out.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Here for nothing. For your nice nice opening.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Up the playbook, opening up the playbook, man, I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Then on the third down, the third and short, I
think it was like third and three, Wilson get four it. Oh,
it's going gravy. I'm sitting up there, I'm yelling, I'm
screaming as you can hear everything going gravy.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And then we actually get a little setback. We get
a PI on DK push off.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That put us behind the sticks. But you know who
we got in there. If we can't hurt if anywhere
close to sixty, we go put Bank on the field.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, he hit fifty six right there. We up three. Oh,
I'm like, hey, it's a good start.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It could have been better, but I ain't tripping. I
ain't tripping at all. Green Baye back out there, love
doing thing, But this is what I'm upset about. This
dude through like four short passes, dude, like that went
for like twenty four, six thirteen, and then the sixteen
(04:22):
yard touchdown. It's seven three.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
There's a lot of mistackles out there.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Gangster Early, I really ain't. I really ain't tripping, you
know what I'm saying. Still, let's get back out there again.
We get a little illegal shift on this on the.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Second offense, that back behind the sticks. That's when they
was messing up.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
We could have been third and what thirty three? Now
we're second and thirteen. We end up having to punt
the ball man.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm gonna tell you right now, my red cup. Don't
you all worry about what's in it? Might not be
nothing in it. I'm doing a little bit of everything
right now, trying to compensate and make me feel better
so I don't crash out right here. Okay, Green Baker,
get out there again, dude, A little short pass. My
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dude busted for thirty three. Yack Craft was getting all
the yack. He was breaking tackles as stiff arming people.
All Right, my bad, and here's the crazy thing, bro,
They're able to actually get a he'll go to town
before the hat. But no, that ain't even even it's missed.
(05:41):
He missed it, Thank goodness. He ain't used to kicking
and and actor Stateum. I wanted to say, hynesvie, we're
still up. You know, three to seven? Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Cool, We got a short feel now.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So with the short feel we get enough yardage to
give voss again.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We start loast you go for fifty this time.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Sixty seven six seven six seven and say six seven
six seven.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I was like, I don't know if I like that.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Six seven okay, Green Bay come out and the defense
do it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Stud this. I ain't gonna lie. They did it hot
three and ae and out hot.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Three and now hot threeing out baby Pittsburgh come out
there like dude again, the drive gets started. We get
what was that that five yard loss on the first down, dude,
just blue yes on the morund jail and Warren tried
to toe that. You got seven behind the sticks again, get.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
A false start to on the field goal try. But
we got bobs.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So he said, you know, instead of forty threety eight,
it's forty eight.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I ain't tripping nine seven nine seven.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I'm still feeling I'm still feeling pretty decent about it.
You know what I'm saying, defense, come out, stand up again.
I'm like, whoa were standing up? This is the defense
or the type of defense I'm using.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Three and outs in the rows. Still, it's come out there.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We mix it up a little bit, we get a
little run, we get a little pass, you know what
I'm saying, get a little help on the third down
with the PI which it gives us a first.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know what I'm saying, that's all good here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm like, y'all, we should have maybe used up a
little more of that clock, you know, because we had
three timeouts.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know, we kind of rushed it when.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
DK ended up scoring that touchdown because I don't want
to give them no more time because I know what
we've been doing. We scored a touchdown with DK. It's
sixteen to seven. I'm feeling okay. But even though it's
only thirty four seconds, I know what we have been
(07:51):
doing this year are.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The giving up exposive plays.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Dude, they get a run of eight and then a
pass of nineteen. TJ get an incidental face mask, another
one of nine, and here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
They about to kick this field goal.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Luckily a field goal kicker is crash. He had a
bad I really appreciate you for that. I really appreciate
you for that. So sixteen seven we go in.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's all you. I'm sicking there.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm saying, I'm feeling. I'm feeling six seven. You feel
because it could have been. It could have been thirteen
to sixteen if he make those two.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Field goals, no for Shure for shut for Shure for shure.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So we come back out still it's got the rock
and then we lose.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Friar moveth yo.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I'm gonna tell you right now, in my head, as
not even in my head me as a person, I
think that's a thirty play.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're hitting that man low. He can't see where you're going, but.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He has he has on the choice. He gotta take
them away, right. That's the way y'all made the shouts.
So I understand on this one too. They didn't get
the off side called. A rod didn't get the off
side call.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
How you don't how you don't get there did y'all
sit down and you discuss and still don't give it
to him?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You still do know, like the man is literally in
the gap when you snap the ball. So that was crazy,
and they had to punt the ball. I think that
right there, it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Was it started getting a little at that that right
there was not a good that was.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It kind of went down downhill there because they get
to get the ball and on the third down, the
third and five, the tight end go damn near sixty
and we.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Whys mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
He running down there with Elliott. He kind of like
pushed them off. He's stumbling looking around. Ah, you got
you gotta make that. You gotta make that play.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Now. On top of that, you let these boys go
ninety yards in nine place.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's fourteen six yep, and it's bad eyes they hit
you on the fourth fo one two H. I ain't
even want something I had that man had to because
that happened. M h.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Still, let's get the bow. Still it's back out there.
So now we get sacked sack from We're lucky. The
review saw that he had the ball, that he really
had control of it, and dude just snatched it up
out of his hands. You know what I'm saying. We
got we we get really nothing after we get the
ball back.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But we got Bankro Boss.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
We got boss Man Boss forty six, nineteen to fourteen.
I'm like, all right, defense, stand up, stand up. We
did whatever we did, it's cool. Now it's time to
stand up. They started letting these cats work.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
He started. Then a big bomb boom, third and seven,
we get thirty three.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Then I think it was even a PI on that,
but they didn't take it. Wasn't that. It wasn't that
the one and they they you know, they declined it.
And then Jacobs.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
He had first played the fourth.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Quarter, he get the little, you know, three yard touchdown
and then the two point conversion.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Bro, did you see that that they didn't they didn't convert, Yes,
they did, they converted that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh they didn't convert the version.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Green Bay twenty two bruh, whole half of the end
zone map.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And now from this, from this point on the fourth
quarters where it got where it got real, aren't you no, dude?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It got bad after this. It was two different halves.
It was the first half in the second half, but
got damn.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That fourth quarter. As soon as it turned to the
fourth guy, ugly dude. We get sacked on the first
so behind the sticks, lost to ten. There's nothing you
could do, like check, we were thrown out.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And then we get an unnecessary reference on the court
like Green Bay you know, gave these dudes another short.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
All on the forty five yard line. Brother four plays later,
bro on all short pass.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, like yards after catch, you're getting it. You got
the he caught the ball and was running and everything
Kraft was getting was after the catch.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, we down twenty nine to nineteen, coach, with with
just what under or over ten minutes left? Under or
over ten minutes left. We are not built to come
back from something like that, especially when our defense is
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not tackling and we're playing trash. I'm trying not to
yell because I'm gonna lose my voice. We come back out,
get the rock right second down, we get a what
was it so dj oh? Yeah, we get ourunnecessary rougherence
(13:44):
on DK three and all we gotta punt the ball again.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I said, Now this is when because, like you said,
in the second half, this when I was listening to announcement,
they was like this, this has been eighteen straight come depletions,
and then they just started talking about had said. This
is the point where they started talking about how many completions.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
My man had.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I was like, oh my god, I wasn't really counting,
but nobody's dropping the ball, dude.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They come in.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They burned off a hot almost three and a half minutes,
and damn field.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Goal kicker make like he want to be able to start,
like he can kick the damn out. Then yep, yeah,
so he hit the field goal. We're down thirty two
to nineteen.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
We hit the ball, man fumble and you let Green
Bay come game well, strip.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No yo. After that, I ain't even lie to you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I knew it was over with Green Bayes added insult
entry and added another three points with the field goal.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Thirty five nineteen.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know we scored, you know, we scored one of
those touchdowns where you up there defense playing prevent, you.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Know, trying to make sure they taking you inside.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Do all that stuff, burn off the clock, you know,
end up being twenty five to thirty five for all
intention purposes, the game over. They kneel down, it's done,
it's done.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They gotta get they definitely they ended it with a first.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They ran for totally for a good first down and
kneel that thing on out.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
What is happening?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Like Pittsburgh Stellers are built on defense, you go back
to defense. Your defense is not the ones that's supposed
to be letting you down. I don't know when, I
don't know if I've ever seen the defense be this bad. Dude,
(15:46):
we can't tackle nobody like we did okay in the
first half, sure, far better than we have like, and
then the second half, Dude, we just totally collapsed, like
we're on the field in the second half almost twenty minutes. Bro,
(16:10):
first half it was barely twelves. Have changed, Like they
converted no third downs. I think we was four to
no on third downs in the first half. The second half, man,
these boys went five to eight. They only missed three
of them things. And then on top of that, Bro,
green Bay take away the last possession had eleven possessions, Bro,
(16:35):
it was only two where they no, I take it back,
it was only three where they had to punt. And
the crazy thing is they could have scored on all
of them, but dude, missed two field goals. Like we
are not stopping anyone from doing anything.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Love well, was he three sixty.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I think they only averaged three fifty nine three tugs
and win' sacking one time, not once, Like he only
threw six five or six balls that were above or
ten yards and more airtime bro.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Everything else is jack.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Giving up way too many points?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like they didn't run the ball, but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Have to and they aren't a running defense anyway there
I mean offense, they're like fifteen.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They mid passion.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I mean they didn't do a bad job running the
ball though Jacobs and other Jacobs in twenty three they
were toting that pill. Twenty three was totaling that joint
two for show like him and Jacobs was toting. He
was able to get the ball off fast their offense
in the first half.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I wasn't as mad, you know what I'm saying, Like
they no, I was like, okay, I saw, I was concerned,
but I wasn't dripping and it was just more too
for me.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The offense didn't have any anytime we got behind the sticks,
like the penalties the first down runs when we're only
getting maybe one yard. If we're getting stopped behind the backfield,
then it's like the drives always get killed with that
and then we were able to win with when Bob's
getting those field goals, but we got to be able
to score touchdowns instead of keep getting field goals.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Do you know what I'm saying, Bruh, I totally understand
what you're saying. Don't get me wrong. We got some
offensive issues, like we were what one of ten on
third downs one of eleven something like that, Like we
can't keep drives together.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We stalled out. And when we can keep.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
A drive together, or we're looking like we're able to
keep a drive together, we get penalties that stop it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Right, we are freaking cooked, Like we're cooked. That was not.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, we're the thirtieth ranked defense in the NFL. We're
the highest paid defense in the NFL. Those two things
don't go.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
This is this is why, this is why I'm with.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You with with the de sday night.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
What the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Let me tell you, with the defense debot, a lot
of it is eyes miscommunications. They're people like you know what, coach,
don't get beat to the flat tight ends running fast
to the flat by theirself. You know what I'm saying.
It's a lot of eye discipline. It's a lot of simple, simple, things.
It's like when people are running scott free through the defense,
you can see like play actions. Those things are people
(19:42):
people just running all around them. I'm like, dude, you
got to be able to have your eyes in the
right spot because people are running scott free.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Through the defense.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So they're the The people are there, The players are there,
but they're not playing at They're not playing at a
high level.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Do you know what I'm saying? Like something they they
have to they have to perform better. They have to.
How you how you don't.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Get up for Sunday night football if you can't get
up for nothing else, ain't nothing else on but you
home in front of your family, your kids.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I would not do.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Not make that name on your back means something, make
the free stars on your testments.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It wasn't me not performing. It wasn't me not performing.
I'm just trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Let you know.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's why I'm I'm like you said, I think I
could think I could be like your your counselor bro.
Because it's okay, it's all, It's all gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Everything is still okay, Joe. You came from a line
of losers. Y'all gonna always be losing.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Damn. Now you being disrespectful. Now you're being disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I'm trying to, I'm trying to trying to just be
here for you, and then you're just going that's.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
A personal attack. I'm I feel you up here for you,
by brother, Listen, my voice gone.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They don't they don't listen, you know, have me have
my kids up late, They had my kids up for the.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yea out there. On top of that, my son done
came to the game. He blew.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Listen, man, he got a sublexation of his right shoulder.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Now he down again. This is this is gonna be
for surgeries in eighteen months.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
This dude doesn't miss basically all the last almost two
and a half years of football. It's his senior year.
This is the toughest moetherfucker I know in my life. Dude,
and you hurt y'all, y'all don't give us nothing to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Hi, Yeah, man, come on, I don't know, de bo.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It wasn't what I it wasn't. Yeah, Offense got to
do better. Defense got to do better. They got to
look at the tape. But end of the day, he man,
things got to get changed. People gotta go wis paid
(22:01):
thirtieth rank, don't match. I don't know what needs to happen,
but we need to go ahead and maybe so redo
this whole, this whole thing, and and and and get
something else going. I think we also need on offense.
We've got to get somebody else besides DK. We got
to get a true a true true too, you know,
(22:25):
one a one and a half. At one point I
asked you this though, do you think do you think
you know George Pickens with him having that off the.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you right now, we
have kept him for the loan, were still the loan.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I don't care all that came with Pickings outside of
the actual incidents on the field with you know, basically
it came down to a the play issue was the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He can do what he can do. That's that's not
the issue. It was.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It was the head, It was the maturity, all that
other stuff like right now, I am like I would
have dealt with all that, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And guess what I'm saying too.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
The only reason why I'm saying it is he knows
he has to ball out to be able to get
another contract. You're paying him six hundred thousand, seven hundred
thousand dollars this year to be able to be a
number two. To know he knows he's gonna have to
get the back he's gonna be gone. So I would
deal with that for five hundred six hundred thousand to
have a real another threat. That's all I'm saying. If
you know you're not gonna pay him, just keep them
(23:34):
while you still got him for the low and then
let him go because you still got a rod you
got DK.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Just keep them, you know what I'm saying. Don't just
dispense him for no reason.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I was just kept him for that one year and
then had him like that, because right now, it would
be really nice to have George Pickens on the.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Team, Dude, it would Yeah, it would be great, great
right now.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
If they could figure out a way to.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Incorporate management of different personalities and how you have to
you know, work with that, I think we're getting, you know,
even it's just.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Across the league. You look at look at Stephan Diggs.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You let a guy do something here, he gets used
to doing that, and when he can't do that, he
may start acting out. Now, Stephan went from here to
there to there and now all you hear is positive
things about him. He took that time to make sure
understand that it's not them as me and he was.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Able to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And I think Pickings may be in a situation right
now where he's like, you know what, he maybe he
had to have that move for him to be able
to realize that, hey, I need to do ABC and
not X y Z.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And now you know he's in that position.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But I mean, I don't know if you know he
could have did that here because of you know what
he was able to do or not do here.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
The only reason why if it's if it's anybody, now
you've got a rod like I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
This was another weapon. Yeah, yeah, I can't. Yeah, thirty
what we're done. Gave up thirty something in the last
five four, five six games. That's that is not Stiller defense.
That is not Stiller football. Nothing about that correlates to
(25:28):
the Black and Go nothing nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, you correct on it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
At least I got something good to talk about. The
Browns got you the worst, bro, literally, I mean well,
I mean, I'm sorry the Browns ended up losing to
the Patriots thirty two to thirteen. Joe, I, I actually was,
you know, a little concerned that they might be able
(26:00):
to do something, especially you.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Know when I went out there right after go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'll let you, I'll let you do your thug this
one that you know, I'll let you get excited because.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You only got eight.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Only thing you got to be excited about us, you know,
maybe the first half.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, honestly, Debo, Honestly I had the first quarter. I'm
gonna go with the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I was. I was good. I was good to go
whole first quarter.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Excited, Yah, so happy, like like okay, okay, you know
what I'm saying, all right, let's just let's just let's
get to the game. So they started our Patrios got
the ball first, you know, twelve plays and this is
that we're ben. But don't break on the brown Secondary
Henderson was running the ball. May they ended up getting
(26:46):
down there, but we ended up making three stops. Miles
Garrett got his first sack, you know what I'm saying,
the third down field goal.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So good. They started off Ben, but don't break they
made some plays.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Three out Browns get the ball all right, first drive,
dry the ball all the way down. We make some
and this is the part too. I'm Dylan Gabriel. He
didn't throw he didn't have to throw the ball too
far down air passes, no air yards was not a lot.
But we were able to get some runs. We was
able to get some sweeps. And then he threw a
(27:15):
touchdown pass and it was really offensive play call and
we were scheming this. We threw some jets the just
he was.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Kind of wide open when he came out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Ran the seventh round. So we up seven to three
off rip. Good happy Patriots get the ball back.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know what I'm saying, Hey, let me stop you
for a minute. Let me stop. I got a phone.
Go I ain't gonna say he where's from? Okay?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And they was geeked excited, you know, they was real
geek decided. They said, oh oh oh.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
What happened? What happened? What's going on? I said, listen,
it's early. It's early. Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Even a broke clock is right once a day. Now,
the sun shine on every dog's ass once in a.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Way, Go on, head.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Bring, Yes, hilarious, But I actually was a little geek.
So then Patriots come back out. Brown's defense gets to
stop on third and one trying to run through Boom.
Good stop. Browns get the ball back, punt incomplete passes,
you know, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay, so yeah, we pun the game. Now this is
where all.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Right, the Patriots they they my man the linebacker, we
got Carson Swaringer. He gets a pick on it and
we bring it back to the thirty four yard line
seventy three. So I'm like, defense is still bawling. Now,
this is our time to make a good play. We
get down to third and Joe, what happens is we
get to a third and five, and that's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Saying, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
My man is running Scott free down the sideline and
he throws the ball out of and carries him out
of bounds. I don't think you could see over the
line or nothing, but it was enough time for him
to stand up in the pocket and just throw the
ball into the end zone. He drips it and throws
out of bounds, and then you know what we do.
We missed the field goal and after from the pick
from the defense, from the turn of it, like, yeah,
(29:08):
to get the ball on thirty four yard lines to
not get no points.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So as you know what that is. That's just bad ball,
that's what that is. That's the Browns man go ahead.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
So then the Patriots. So then the Patriots get the
ball back. You know what I'm saying, dry the ball,
doing good. Our secondary just bemb but don't break. They
still made a couple of plays running down the field,
Miles Garrett another sack, his second sack. And then as
they only we only bember, don't break, we give up
another field goal. It's seven to six. Like the defense
(29:44):
is hooping. We're putting them in positions to win. We
already got a turnover into the red zone and offense
didn't give us no points, didn't give us nothing from it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Okay, I'm getting okay.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Browns get the ball again, third and four, can't convert
what punt? We punt it back to the pace. That's
a damn shame they get. The Patriots are doing good.
They get a false start on third and one. What
makes it third and six? And then we make another play.
Make them punt the ball again.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You're here.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It's a lot of punts, a lot of Patriots now
punting the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
They're getting to the red zone. They're getting three, so
they only have six points right now. The Browns defense
is continuing the ball, then Brown's ball. Browns get the
ball back again. And this is where I'm looking at
coach Safanski, like what what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
The play calling Dylan gamb Will does a good scram
while we get a first down, and then he starts
doing the first first down, We do a flea flicker.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, what are you doing? Second down? My man? My man.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Juckiins gets a run lost the yarders in the fourth down.
I mean, we try to do a double pass and
I actually laughed at it because it looked crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I knew it wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
So we get nothing out of that punt. Patriots get
the ball back. May does his thing create some plays.
Miles Garrett, it's another sack going before halftime.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
They get another.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Field goal, so we don't so all this is they
scored three field goals. They continue to get to the
red zone. It's just defense. Keep stepping up, keep standing up.
Miles Garrett keeps making plays, bending below break. They're making
some plays. They're getting big yard chunk plays on us,
but we're not letting them score. Offense isn't answering now,
Now it's a whole. Now is where I want to talk.
(31:26):
I mean, go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
This win.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So it was nine to seven, okay, and now defense
is bawling. They keep on getting you positions, but eventually
the damn is gonna break. I mean, how much how
many times can I keep you like? You know what
I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I need you. You scratch my back, I scratch your back.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's what I normally like, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm just trying to tell you. The quarterback for for
the Patriots, Dylan Dylan Gabriel, was given giving them the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He was he was throwing it to his teammates over there. Hey,
I was always talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
The one thing I did say abou Dylan Gabriel was
he didn't turn the ball over.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And something changed in this second half of the game.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
He wasn't not only helping us, he was also hurting
us in a way of tossing the ball to the
other team. And I think I see why he doesn't
throw the ball too far down the field because when
he threw that deep ball to covered man.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That one hand picked it like Odell.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I was like, whoa, maybe this is why you only
throw the ball check down, little drag rouse.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That was not good. That did not look on time.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It looked like you almost threw your shoulder out of socket.
So I mean, we're gonna get to that play. We
start off. The Browns get the ball. We come out
third and nine. It just looked like a bad scramble.
Two receivers in the same position tipped it in complete punt.
Then the Patriots get the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What do we do? On defense?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We started we started letting people run through us. Henderson
was running through the defense in the second half like
shredded cheese. And it was actually a little it was.
It was sad to see bad eyes by the second,
eyes by the secondary, eyes by the secondary. They went
seven plays, seven plays, seventy seven yards for a touchdown.
(33:18):
It was a lot of like like the same thing
I was saying for the Steelers. On defense, it looked
like the Browns with eye discipline.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
People running Scott free. You know who your man is.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You could tell when you're looking you see somebody looking
like this, and then they have to go and run
the other way. I'm like this, dude, you're not looking
at your job, you know what I'm saying. So it
was a lot of great switches, a lot of people
just missing where their man was. Went down there sixteen
to seven, right, So they ended up scoring and the
score goes to sixteen to seven, and then the Browns
get the ball back. This is our second drive. So
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the first one we didn't do nothing. We got three
and out. And the next series, this one, it starts
to get real bad. Gabriel throws a drag route two
yards behind the receiver. Behind the receiver, Robert Splickak picked
the joint off, smiling like like a like a kid
on Christmas Day, and starts running it back into the
trying trying to run back to the end zone.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I told you he got confused because he was he
thought he.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Was playing run it back to the seven yard line. Okay,
Miles Gary gets his fourth sack. Then my man, uh
Tyrone Campbell gets hurt, and then Digs gets a touchdown.
So now the score is twenty three seven, and it's
and it's and it's getting and it's getting ugly fast.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Okay, what happened on that next drive? Right, Okay, we
couldn't really get nothing going.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
And this is I'm talking about the Patriots' talking the Patriots.
Next drives, Oh it was it was another it was
another TD to Booty? What what happened?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
What happened? Because I you know, I think that was
that was a long drive. Yeah, it was a lot,
It was a lot. Drake May was scrambling.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
They had a forty nine yard uh forty nine yard
play twenty seven twenty eight yard play?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Uh yeah, so the thirties and seven depot. Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
From this point, from there, it just started getting the
uglier and uglier fourth quarter starts. Browns get the ball,
good scam, I just turnover on down.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And what's this? What's this? What's this joke with?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
This man's a safety? We didn't we didn't get a
safety though, did we? Oh yeah yeah we did. Yeah
we did know we didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's just from that point, Hey, Joe crashing a little
bit right there, I don't want the only one it was.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It was you was a little more disgusted than what
you thought. Huh hey, this is the crazy it took us.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah he did, he damn sure did. He definitely took
a safety. He was in there his zone trying to
throw the ball away to nobody. Now, this is why
I'm trying to tell you. You're getting a little more upset
over this.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You're giving me all this bullshit about oh the stealers,
this that d it ain't bad, woo woo woo, and
then you just fucking crashed right there.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, you know why, Debo, you want some of that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You know this, this is this is what it was
that Browns game though, it just.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It was it was it was two halves.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I just felt the defense they ended up they were
going to fold, you know, and then but the but
on the offensive.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Side, hold on, hold on, how you go fold? You know, No,
you're not.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You're not. You're not going to fold. They need to play.
They have to play elite every single snap. Like the
reason why when I'm watching the Steelers and I don't
get as emotional because I know on the offensive side
of the ball, when you have Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna
be able to make something happen, you know what I'm saying.
Like he's gonna be able to use his feet, he's scrambling,
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he's throwing the ball down the field Like I've seen it.
I know that he's capable of it. I know that
he's working on it. I know that he's one of
the best to ever do it. So that's why.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Oh so you're saying you just ain't got no no, no, no,
it's not that. I mean not that I don't got
no hope.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But with Dylan Gabriel, I mean, if we're thinking that
he's going to be the way, the reason why the
Browns can continue and get better, and then it didn't
help at all that Junkins had nine carries for nineteen yards.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
We couldn't get ahead of the sticks at all. Offense
just looked.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Bad, period, Like it wasn't his, It wasn't only Dylan Gabriel,
it was the offensive line, wasn't wasn't given the wasn't
given my man Jumkins a chance to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
So it was all it was just all bad on Oh.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I mean, you still gave up like almost one hundred
and eighty yards rushing on that number one defense. I believe,
uh you know that's not no. No dude too, you know,
I think old dude only had like maybe what nineteen
carries for about eighty yards. It was busting yard in
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the head that I think what Henderson was like, he
got a and it.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Was too late. We gotta play good. Yeah, oh yeah,
you can't. And that's the and that's when you don't.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
When you know you're not gonna score any points, you
can't give up and you get.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
All of that stuff is gonna matter. So we gotta
look at your table.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
You mean, like Ben, but don't break a lot of
the times he did get a bunch of those yards,
they didn't score. He kept them out of the end zone.
But some of the passing, we got to keep those
passing touchdowns tho our disciplines, you.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Know what I'm saying. We got to keep them dudes
out of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So yeah, and you know what's crazy though, Drake made
that boy went eighteen for twenty four for two eighty
two and y'all sacked.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Him six times. He still went on here.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Got three toes and threw a pick to y'all, said here,
I'm gonna give y'all something to give you a little
bit of hope.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Then were gonna snap what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You know, once you get that pick and bringing when
you get to pick, run.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
The ball back to the thirty four yard line and
you get nothing. You just listen. You just come back
out to the.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Board sitting over there, and he's like, yo, may through
a pick. I ain't gonna let this boy out do me.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I gotta throw too, I gotta throw too the.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Bother And you know that's that's what uh you know,
that's that's just what happens.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
But your boy Miles there, you know he was a
little frustrated with losing, you know, despite having five sacks. Hey, Miles,
I understand your frustration. But when you signed that contract,
you knew you.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Signed for the money. You can be frustrated all you want.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
If you were really that frustrated, tell them you'll give
them back some money if you if they trade you
to a contender. You ain't that frustrated, though, you knew
you signed up to get that money, play your game.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And lose, because that's what the Browns did.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
At least you're getting paid extremely well, extremely well well
for a team that you know ain't gonna really go nowhere.
I mean you said you love the game and all
that other stuff and you want to win, but you.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Ain't love it enough to turn that money down. Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I mean, so we can't. You know, I understand you
go be frustrating, dobody like losing. You know what I'm saying.
I don't like losing either, But I can't say that either.
If I had to lose, I would love to get
paid a whole lot more.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
But I've been in a situation where I've won them
and lost them, and I would far give up way
more money to win them than I would should lose them.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, I think in my situation, man, like.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Obviously when you had those contract negotiations, you knew before
it happened, like you can be able.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
This is your time.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You need to get up out of there. You want
to get out of there. You've been there for seven
years when I was there. If you don't feel like
the organization is really doing moving in the right steps,
this organization that you see like Kansas City spots that
continuously are making playoff runs, continuously win the Super Bowls
during that time, Miles, when it's now your contract is
about to be up, you cannot sign nothing and just
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wait until you can go to a free agent or
till they got to try to franchise tag you. But
you can hold to your really life. No, I'm not
going to play here. Once you get there, you're in there.
You know what I'm saying, especially with what you were
telling everyone, I just don't want to I want to
be with a contender. I want to do this. I
want to win. It's not about the money. And then
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you let them hit you with the money, all money.
And this is the part I would say with Myles too.
He was going to get that money from any team.
Any team would have paid Miles twenty million dollars a.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Year, anybody. Hey, but a bird hand is one of
the bird in the feather.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I feel you, but that but that's what But that's
the part where I'm saying I'm with you, Debot. I'm
with you because you keep if you saying that I
want to be with a contender, like I'm trying to
go go somewhere, I want to go win.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
And then you sign with the Browns again, I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Like, what did they tell you that that makes you
think that the direction was going to be different than
what was been there the last seven years that you
were there. Like, now that you're there, you can't I mean,
you can be sad that you're losing, but it's like
you kind of know what you signed up for because
it hasn't been different than any other thing that you've
done since you've been there. Like you gonna hoop, that's
not I'm nobody's questioning that. But the losing is still
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going to come with you going all pro every year.
You still going, you know what I'm saying, all the
Pro Bowls, right, So that's just the part where I'm like,
you know, if you really was like wanting to go
win and I know and I'm not and I'm not
saying that he doesn't. I know he wants to bring
in Cleveland, that would be the best because they you
would be You're gonna be idolized because they never want
so you I want to do when they're you, you
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would be idolized. You're gonna be good. But don't now
say like you got to be all.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
In it now.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
You got to be like, yeah, well in there, we're ownership, Like, man,
what's up what we're doing here?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Like because you in there, you're not going nowhere? Come on,
now you're talking about he got to be in there
with ownership. You've been there, Joe. You think they're gonna
let that man in there with ownership.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
He got his forty they paying him his money.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm just saying I want, I want to stick with
the Browns. But I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You said, Dylan gabro it's not the reason they're winning,
as long as he's not the reason they're losing. Right now,
I see him as the reason that they're losing. Do
you believe that sha Door should remain the backup? They
say they're gonna stick with Dylan started, do you believe
Shad Door should get a shot.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I believe that Shador should definitely.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I mean, now it's about time me to should Door
be able to should be able to get his shot.
I think they're gonna they're going into the bye week,
they're coming off of a bye week, and I think
they're playing the Dolphins when they come off their bye week.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
So I know they're not.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Going to give Shador his shot. Because coaches all in
for Dylan Gabriel. They're gonna give him as many opportunities
as possible. And I think if if it was a
game and they knew that Shador was gonna come off
a bye week, give him that whole week to study
at for Miami. I think he might come out there
and looking looking sweet. So I mean, I think that
it's about that time that he should be able to
go out there and play.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Because Dylan hasn't proven to be look.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
For sure franchise quarterback but not adding any real he's
not helping us, but now he's starting to Now he's
starting to hurt the team.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, I mean, what you go do? Y'all?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Already two and six, you know your your last in
the AFC. North of course, Pittsburgh is still sitting on
top for now. We're four and three. But I'm with you,
like maybe maybe they giving it one think they're gonna
give him one more week for sure, you.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Know, and they when they play the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Speaking of the Dolphins, the Dolphins went out there and
Miley wopped uh Atlanta thirty four to ten. Bro to
It said he woke up with a swollen nye. Glad
he was able to play.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
He said, I went out there and did this to
you boys with my eyes shut.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's basically what he's saying. I mean, that's that's what
I got from it.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
We do. I mean, at which what what what did
you get from that statement.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
That he you know, I woke over my eyes and
went on out there and put put put the whammy
on him. And also I really think that Atlanta came
in there and thinking it's the Dolphins, dude, thinking that
he's sweet, thinking it was sweet, dude, Like you don't
realize you ain't got phenix. You know, he's not playing
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this game. You're sitting up there with cousins, you know.
And then it's just un like, uh, Bjon, he didn't
he didn't do at all.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Man, I ain't gonna lie to you that Dolphins Dolphins
defense and didn't act like they was the worst defense.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
They came out there and balled out.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
M hm mean they held j on the twenty five
yards Brodie on nine carries.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what it was, dude
they got. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
They probably stood up, put their foot on the ground,
you know, and said, you know what, man, enough is enough, y'all.
I used to have a shirt in college like we
was getting whooped so bad. Bro Our slogan for that
year was enough, I swear, brother, But I know that's dude,
It's horrible, bruh. But it was the thing was tough
is enough, dude. I'm like, yeah, that's not, that's not
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it'd be like that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Sometimes it was total to rock on them.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
They ran for one forty one two through for fur
tds twenty for twenty six two o five.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Dude, he took right for only only on twenty completions.
That boy got folk and it was only two hundred yards.
It's like maybe two five. Maybe you need to do
a pirate thing. Just wear a patch over his eye
before the game, be like I can't see, and then
when he go back out there, you know he work,
you know, working magic.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I don't I think it was two. Though.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
At the end of the day, their run game did good,
like you said, they ran for the Dolphins ran for
one forty one. They said the first in the first
quarter that td driver was thirteen plays seventy nine yards
for eight minutes and thirty seconds, and they did ten
And they did ten runs on that drive. So you
can be able to if you come in that joint,
like you said, man, just establish dominance, run the ball,
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hand it off directly, and walk it down the field
taking off time like that's two.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
It didn't have to really, you ain't gonna have to
do too much. And that's gonna open.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Up that play action to where like you see Waddle
all them dudes, them bang eights, them quick play actions
where Water was able to catch that like fifty some
yard touchdown catch. He was like catching it because they
running the ball so well. Play action able to have
the linebackers to chew it up and just toss it
behind him.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, for sure, let's go on over here. Listen to
Jets just went on here.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
It came back and in the Bengals Cincinnati, Yeah, be
Cincinnati thirty nine to thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I was a little questionable on why he was going
for two, but nah, see why he was going for two.
That's why I guess you started doing things just get
that win. You know, if he hadn't did that to
win in the overtime, they let they let Joe go
in and do it.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Just feels he was.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
He was crying on the ground after Woodie Johnson's criticism
calls it outside noise after leading it just to his
first win.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
We got some sound, We got the sound for that.
Let's play that yesterday. I'm praying from praying like crazy,
just just for when, just for when. And you know
this this, I'm gonna get pretty boner right right here.
But uh, this week, I kind of, you know, I
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found myself in my closet crying on the ground, laying down.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Not because of.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
Not because of the hardships, not because of the troubles.
I felt like, you know, I was built to handle that,
and I was put in place to handle this situation.
But in that moment when I was talking to my
best friend, you know how hard it was and just
you know, not wavering faith wise, yes, that was your
So I was just praying over and over and over again,
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like yo, like this is just one one win.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, I don't know about I don't know about praying
for a win.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I pray for I pray for health, I pray for protection,
you know, being being safe for injury.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I don't know if the prayer for win is the
thing to go. I think if that's the case, everybody
prayed for win, somebody go lose.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah. So I mean it's uh, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
But you know what happened is y'all y'all started running
the ball down them boys throats. You know, you started
you started being able to make some connections.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
You know, here and there.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
And the big thing is Cincinnati's defense did what Cincinnati's
defense had done the previous before, last week, the previous weeks,
all before that.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
And you know that's they got to stand up.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
That's not yeah, that's that's not what you want. And
the offense, you know, I mean with Joe over there, dude,
they're they're nice.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
It's just they got to get the defense.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
The defense. Defense. You still need defense, Pittsburg. You need defense.
Your defense got to go out there and do their
job too.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
They got to it.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Well, if you score thirty eight points, like in no
situation you're feeling like you should ever lose these games,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
They had almost one hundred and eighty one hundred and
eighty five yards of Russian dude like Flacco was two.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Thirty to twenty twenty three two touchdowns Like that is not.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
A performance that you should be using.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Dude, like you're you're talking about over four hundred yards
of offense, bro yep. And you know what your defense boys,
they they said, we can top that.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
We can give up five five hundred and two yards
two point fifty five on the ground, two forty seven
in the air, like like you're not gonna win like that, brother,
I don't care how much Joe Flacco throwing at the
Chase and Higgins, like, you gotta be able to stand up.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
And I think that's where dude, Chase had twelve targeted
nineteen times.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
That's what I'm saying. They can own it and they eating,
but you stay scored. You still taking an L cause
you got to be able to make a stop. You
got to stop somebody at some point of the game.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
It ain't and it's not just one stop, dude, you
gotta be You gotta be cons for sure on your stop.
You have to have a high rate of consistency of
stopping people when you When you don't do that and
you get that one stop, you know, it's like, Okay,
that's cool, we did it. And now say the offense
don't go out and and make.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
The points or they don't do it would need to be.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Done to get you back in that position, like you
got to come back out and make that stop again.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
I say this all the time.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
If the defense do they job, they are the only
ones who can both stop and score.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Like I am Hella.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Hella bent On if you do your job one hundred percent,
there's no way we can lose this game. And I
think that's how that's just the mindset that we had
when I.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Played for the Stellers.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
It's like, Okay, the offense ain't doing nothing right now, cool,
what we gotta do. We gotta go sack fum, we
get a touchdown, we gotta get a pick, we gotta score.
We got to put them in a position to be
able to score on a short field, an easy touchdown,
Like we.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Got to go out here and make it happen.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
And we were able to do that, and right now
we can't stop you from going one hundred yards down
the field.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
And it's disgusting, dude.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
It is the most sickening feeling in your stomach to
know that when your defense steps on the field, if
it's close, you're like sixcess. I don't know what it's
going to happen, but I know in the pit of
my stomach, I'm thinking they about to go down here
to score, and.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
That's gonna be it because we cannot stop. Dude. They
cutting through us like a knife through hot butter. Dude.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
And then when we get in position to be able
to stop it. We can't even tackle the guys. I
think it was like five or six plays where somebody
broke at least three tackles like that is not your.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Job is to tackle like that's it, bruh.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
And when you when they make a catch, security tackle
get them down.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
All this yet is crazy and it wasn't like that.
And I ain't gonna lie them.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Those Packers receivers aren't like oh nothing, It ain't no
all pros out there.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
It ain't. It ain't no you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
That not not to knock them at all, but you
know what I'm saying. They and they're not Jamar Chase,
you know what I'm saying. They more just guys that
are nice and they lead the NFL receivers.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Like we need help. Maybe we can pray people, maybe
God will care.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
I'm telling you to take us a good defense again,
like justin pray for the win. Yeah they just got maybe,
but I don't think so a lot of things you
can ask for now.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Them dudes, I think, man, yeah, they got to start
watching it a lot, Like I said, de Bo, like
like you know a lot of this stuff too, isn't
just like the Scott Free stuff the eyes, the eye discipline.
They need to that that's something that that's something that
they can prove on. That's something you can literally at
practice do like but keep your eyes on your man
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like trying to make sure like not getting confused because
a lot of this stuff is getting beat to the flats,
is getting coming down on the run thinking in the
play actions.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
You're just not reading your keys, you know what. And
I believe Cam says something about about effort. I guess
he was saying he did he didn't think that the
effort was there.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
And he's on the inside, So I mean, I think
that's something that somebody may want to ask him if
he wants to elaborate on.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
No, for sure, you know sure.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
I mean that it's not it's not too hard to
see who's getting beat, who's missing assignments on every single play.
You know how it is, debo when you go to
those defensive meetings after those games. Yes, that each play
coach is sitting right next to people and you're getting
checks and excess and like I'm gonna like, what are
these meetings looking like? Who's getting addressed? Like this is
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not okay? These plays, and like, why is it a
coaching thing? The coach is not telling them what to
be looking at? Are they correcting the players?
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Are they not? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (55:59):
I will I will say this though, I know that
this is not the defense that we used to have.
It is not that that true DICKLB fire zone defense
that had rules and schemes.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
This is this is some new this is what this
is what, this is what TA putting up now?
Speaker 2 (56:18):
I know when I got back back and forteen, even
when uh, you know, uh, coach the boy had just
they had just you know, letting go.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
It was changed.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
They had try and they had tried to change things
to make it easier for guys.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
To play and not have to think.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
But dude, if you don't have a complicated system or
defense and be able to execute and understand it, and
you try and change one thing for this person and
one thing for that person, you put too many gaps
and holes in the defense and you're not gap sound.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
And when you're not gap sound, you're not able to
stop anything. Dude.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
And on top of that, like we couldn't even stop
a little simple two point conversion because it was nobody
on that half of field, like they're not understanding or
they're both not understanding, and with that not understanding, you
can't execute it correctly.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, some got some gotta shake because it looks I
gotta give.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
We have players, dude, like, we have players that can
make plays like and then when we're in position, they.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
Have to make these play like those miss tackles.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Bro that I'm going to sit there and tackle all
day on Wednesday, we're going live, like to the ground live.
It's none of that. To the ground, it's none of that.
Oh I tagged them off and I made it. No,
we're not doing that one money. And then on top
of bruh, listen, I'm gonna crash out. I told you, dude,
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I told you we.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Are down bad. We down bad, bad bad.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
And on top of that, the Ravens won, they beat
the Bears. They looking like they defense no, like they
ask what they do though what they do? They say, Hey,
we're getting rid of everything that y'all got that is
not conducive to us being able to play football directed
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to football, PlayStation's gone, gaming's going, all that gone. Everything
you do in here is going to be about playing ball,
understanding ball, and focused on ball.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
I don't care about your free time.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
Your free time here should be when you eat, and
in between that you should be.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Learning, talking to each other, figuring.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
Out what it is you're supposed to do on every
single thing that you have going on, and do They
won the game thirty to sixteen bro Day Day or
Henry about twenty twenty five or something like that. With smart,
you got a quarterback in there who can do the
sort of things that Lamar.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Where he can move, he can move around, he could
like he looks lively.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yes, yes, that's what you gotta do. Lamar Jackson offense.
You put a Lamar Jackson is You're not gonna have
Lamar Jackson, but you're gonna put somebody in there that
can move his legs and like shape move around.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
I ain't tripping that bad though, because of anybody winning.
I would prefer to be the Ravens versus anybody else,
because they were like dead last and now they're like
maybe third or something.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
I'm cool.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I'm cool with that, you know, so I ain't tripping
the Eagles. They ended up whopping on the Giants, but
the Giants lost.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
They lost. They lost man up to that man, that's
you know, stataboo. Sorry, it's scatter bo got boo.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, I said, I said scatter boom de bo e boat.
That's why I was trying to make it rhyme. They
lost scatter blue on that on that it looked crazy.
You had this whole little ankle. Yeah, Jayalen hurts though
he fomped on the touch push wrong?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So what you officials wrongly?
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Rude forward progress stopped on the touch push.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
You think they need to. This is my thing.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
At some point when you do the touch push or
any of those type of things, you get stopped boom,
and then that's when dude comes and push you behind.
Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
If that's the case, as soon as he gets stopped,
it's just done.
Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
So the.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Touch push it then eliminates push. That's yes, yes, I
don't know. I'm over the touch.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Push Competition committee might want to might want to look
at that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
No for sure, because like you said, if he initially
stops the thing momentum and then you and then the
people run up behind him, it's already done.
Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Stop it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Like I feel like they always getting a little full
or progress winnings. They're going backwards or the ball falls out.
Whistle whistle, whistle, like it's real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
For we at that point before we got out of here, Joe,
I think you have some videos to show me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
What's that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Up before we get out of there. Congrats to our
giveaway winners. You gotta breathe and Addie.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Here they go.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Hey, some great seats right there back.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah, they got they got you out there, debo. Bro,
that's when.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Everything was, it was getting ready, it was live. That's
why my voice like this. Bro, there they go, Hey,
but I got But I hope y'all had a great time.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Bro. But I got Eddie proposed to his now fiance
Nikki and he did it at debo.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Jersey the ticket winner. Wow, I think so, brother. Let
me see that and let me he got a hat
that I got Eddie.
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Okay, congratulations on manhood, said no, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Man h match debo, go ahead, debo. You know what
I'm saying, I'm making I make I'm making marriage. And
that's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
What I'm saying, love is love, Love is in the air.
Love us in the air. Even though it's no w's
you ain't like bron Listen, we want to thank y'all
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Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
And Joe same Monday Night Football. We're gonna be here
to let y'all know how the games go. Appreciate all
of y'all. Make sure you make sure.
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