October 16, 2024 • 50 mins
Fat Joe kicks off his conversation with Shannon Sharpe at Club Shay Shay by joking that he wants to be like Snoop Dogg. He shares his upbringing, explaining that he just wanted to escape poverty. Joe tells pivotal stories from his upbringing like when his best friend abandoned him to side with attackers, being shot at by the same guy eight times in two days, how hip hop saved his life, and being framed for three murders by the cops. Joe also mentions how he constantly gets canceled by Gen Z every time he goes on Instagram Live.
Joe reflects on the deaths of modern rappers like Nipsey Hussle, Pop Smoke, and PnB Rock, comparing them to Tupac and Biggie Smalls. He stresses that people need to come together, just like Jay-Z and DJ Khaled, and comments on Michael Rubin’s controversial remarks. He adds that he tries to inspire youth through his flexing rather than tear the community apart.
The conversation then transitions to the Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar beef, to which Fat Joe jokes that he doesn’t want anyone to kill him after his interview with Shannon for his opinion on the matter. He says if he were Drake, he’d be confused. He highlights how the song is nominated for multiple Grammys and believes it will become an all-time classic. Joe likens the public’s fascination with the beef to watching football and believes Drake can make everyone forget about the feud depending on how he responds.
Fat Joe recalls attempting to squash the beef between Ja Rule and 50 Cent, saying they should have ended it by now. He expresses hope that Young Thug will be released from jail so he can take care of his loved ones again. Joe recounts losing a $20 million Jordan Brand endorsement due to his feud with 50 Cent, revealing it wasn’t the only financial hit he took because of beefs—he also lost money beefing with Jay-Z. He warns young rappers that the Feds are watching rappers’ crews and pinning it back on the artist, referencing Bobby Shmurda’s situation. Lastly, Joe praises Jay-Z for doing great work with the NFL but understands why Lil Wayne is upset about not performing at the Super Bowl Halftime Show in New Orleans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I
am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proproud of
Club Shasha. The guy that's stopping by for conversation and
to drink today, is a certified Golden platinum selling artist,
Billboard chart topping, Grammy nominated for his like Lean Back,
Make It Ring All the Way Up. He's a rapper, producer, executive, philanthropist,
and a cultural icon, the one, the only. Some call
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him Joe Crack, but we know him miss Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Joe. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Man? I love your thanks. You want an introduction? Yes,
I am Fat Joseph, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Proud of it. No you're not.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, I'm proud of and I'm done. Comes again himself too,
if you want it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Where is Joe? Well, oh you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Mean fact Joe. He's he's yeah, he's off playing call
him Juju Black Home six. So I'm his rapper replacement.
You know what I'm saying, rapper replacement. Just lean back.
Come on showing lean back. You look a little Tennis
on dance. I just put up my pants and do
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the ruck away. You gotta lean back, Shannon, See.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Jake, is this some kind of Joe. Where where is
Joe Shannon?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
If you can't lean back, maybe we could throw one back.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, I'm gonna pass up an opportunity to have a
drinke though.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, just you and me?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What is this.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Petroleum?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah? Up? Man? What's the Terror squad?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
People think it's terror like terror. No, it's terror, it's
Mother Earth.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Easy piec.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, since you're here, you fan Joe? Who is your
favorite rapper?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You work with ice Cube?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I adore ice Cube in any way of shape or form,
even in white wine.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
When you were riding lean back? What how did you
come up with that?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I just leaned back like this. It just came, you know,
just came.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
What about what's love?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Take my hand?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Just feel?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's what love is all about?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Interesting? Yeah, I'm not sure that's it, but okay, I.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Just want to become friends with you. That's why I'm here.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's not possible.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I am fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah that concludes this interview.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Where you're going now?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I started liking this. I think let's get the real fact.
Joe here interviewing me.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, guys, let's try this again.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I think fat Joe is from playing Call of Duty,
Black Ops six, So Here We Go. He's a multi
platinum selling rapper. He's had hits records in three different
decades in New York. Legend, one of the Kings of
New York, a cultural icon, Grammy nominative Mega Rap Stars.
He's behind two of the biggest most respected anthems, Lean
Back and All the Way Up. He's one of the
rap industry's first Latino superstars. He sold million direcords. A
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highly respected rapper, songwriter, producer, artist, host, actor, author, media personality,
A successful executive, entrepreneur and philanthropist. He's also a healthcare
price transparency reform advocate. He's a larger than life persona,
one of the rap music most influential artists. One of
hip hop's greatest storytellers. You know him as Joe Krack,
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but here he is, Ladies and gentlemen, Fat Joe.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Thank you so much, My brother, All my life, grinding
all my life, sacrifice, hustle back, prison, one slice, gottor
broisat all my life. I grinding all my life, all
my life and grinning all.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
My sacris price one slice.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Doctor Brother, all my life, Poppy ground in all my.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Life Today We're at Alley Lounge on sixty six at
Resource World, Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Did I do Damn?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I just I just wanted to be like Snoop Dog.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know what I'm saying. You know, let me telling me.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I look at the bar, the TV commercials, I see
Snoop Dog and he sketches out. He's the football guy,
he's the voice.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I'm trying to be a Snoop Dog.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Bro your career, I mean when you growing up, when
Bad Joe was growing up, I thank you're from the Bronx, right,
You're from the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
When you were growing up as a kid, what did
Bad Joe want to be?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I just wanted to be rich. Now I'm telling you
the truth.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I ain't want to be poor, right, and my whole
family before me was poor, and our community.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I like to tell the youth to google this, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Really he looked like the Bronx was in war, like
Ukraine or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's what we grew up at.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
And I remember telling my man's like, yo, this poor
shit ain't for me, and they didn't understand it because
all he was was poor. So I'm like twelve years
old talking about Yo, I gotta get to the bag.
I gotta I gotta get it. And so that's that.
I think that's what Fat Joe was even since a kid.
He was just a hustler, always ready to go get
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the money.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You tell the story I read where you were like
bullied as a kid, and one time you were getting
bullied and you was getting jumped and your homeboy, who's
with you?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Because he didn't want to get jumped. He joked in
with them and beat you there.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Well, they told him, they said, yo, what you're doing
with this kid? So what happens is I grew up
in the ninety percent black neighborhood. Okay, right, So my
mother was there forty years before me, So when I
grew up, I never saw racism. I was just little
Joey from the block. Right then I got thrown out
him junior high school. So they put me in my
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grandmother's neighborhood. There was ninety nine point nine percent black,
but they never seen a Spanish guy like me.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So I'm walking up in there, Joey Krack, I'm the
same guy.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
They're like, oh, we're not trying to play this shit around,
and we never seen one of these right right, And
so every day I.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Had to fight twenty guys. And then my best friend,
he was black, his name was Leonard. My mom's cooked
for him every day, take care of him. And one
day they came up to him and they was like, yo,
why you beat with the Puerto Rican dude? And he's like,
that's my friend. And they said, well, if you don't
beat him up today with us, we gonna beat your
ass like we beat him every day. And he jumped me.
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And that that moment right there changed my whole life.
That was the birth of Joey Krack. It was no
longer fat Joey. It was like, all right, I don't
care about nobody, Like I'm ready to go to war
with every human being. My heart just turned black. Like
it was like I'm giving it to everybody. And that's
where the legend of Joey Krack began.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Did you guys remain friend? Did you understand? Did you
understand the situation?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Man?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I cried for like ten hours. I had a black
hoodie on, black jeans and black chuck of Thames and
I just kept trying this and I was crying like
I don't give a fuck about nobody. I'm gonna punish
every body.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It was over.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Like from that point on, you don't start robbing people.
I started wilding. I create the terror squad that you know.
That's that's where all lot went into play.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So that was the birth of joe Krat. Joey Krast
that that way, it was that.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Moment that was a defining moment of my life. It
was it was really sad. You know, I have your
best friend beat you up with the guys that used
to bully you. That was hard for me.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You were shot, you were shot at you remember do
you remember those moments?
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Oh my god, I've been shot at like thirty So
I was a problem. Like I was like a giant problem.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Like you know.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It was like every day I came out of my
house to fight three different guys.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Every day. It was it was just we was.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Wilding and so guys, you know, they wanted to kill me,
you know what I mean. So they shot at me
maybe thirty forty times. And one time I'm in a
rental car. We were about to go retaliate and the
guy comes. I had a guy shoot at me like
eight times in two days. He looked like the movie
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Marked for Death. Ecuadorian kid.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
He just was.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Coming at me, kept going, kept going, kept going. So
we in a rental car ready to go get him.
They shoot up the whole rental car, me and my
guy Torn Duck. I heard the death of Fat Joe
because the people in front of my building.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All the old ladies, was like, oh my God, I
don't want Yoe. They killed yo.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Y'oll y'all like wow, and we peek up like.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Just broke glasses.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
So that's why God is so real, Shannon, because so
many times in my life. One time I robbed these
Dominican dudes and they came back the next day. I
was walking with a girl with no gun.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
They jump out.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
None of them were guns, all kind of sizes. So
they jump on me. They're ready to kill me. I
deserve it. I just stuck them up yesterday. Right then,
my guy, my brother Opie, who is the biggest guy
in the neighborhood, happened to stop in the motorcycle and
they respected him. He was like, yo, that's my brother.
They was like yo, this guy. Opie was like yo,
give him a pass. They give him a pass. That's
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why I know about divine intervention. That's why I know
God spared my life so I could do the kind
of things I do now when you say healthcare price transparency,
or philanthropy, or giving back to my community, or opening
businesses in my community, single parent mothers buying homes because
we give them the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So for me, I just give it all all glory.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
To God for sparing my life to get to this
point and work and spread his message through a real one.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But that didn't stop you.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Even though your boy interve is, hey give him a path,
give grace, that wasn't enough to stop you in that moment,
because Joe, you said, you guys shot at thirty seven
forty times. You like they say a cat has nine lives,
You like.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The orange cat.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
He's a bully on the block, and Kate nothing to
get rid of it now you can't. And we were
really really strong too, So I had a bunch of
strong guys with me too, who just they held the
fort down like something else you know, Uh yeah, you know.
Hip hop music saved my life pretty much. Diamond D
digging in the Crates Crew. They came out from my
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neighborhood that Lord Fin that showed me it was possible.
But Diamond said, joe they're gonna kill you out here.
And to this day he's one of my best friends.
So he was like, put your stuff through music man,
let me take you to the studio. I know you
got money, let me pay for the studio. He paid
for the studio and had me record like two three songs,
and he was like, change your life, please.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
They're going to kill you.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And his moms used to talk to me too, so
she was like, Joey, they're gonna kill you out here
like chill. And then once I got a record deal,
I went to the Apollo Theater one four week to
the world. But once read Alert discovered me and they
gave me a record deal, I changed my whole life
like Cinderella, like night and day, like just I'm gonna
go and make my life this way. That is the
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only opportunity I got, and I'm not gonna stop. And
I don't want to know about drugs. I don't want
to know about robbing people. I don't want to know yo,
I don't want to hear nothing. I changed my life
and it's almost like a Robin Hood Cinderella story.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
From that point on, I never focused on crime.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well you but.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Let me ask you a question, like when you were
jacking people, were you rapping also being on the side
or you well, you just just.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Just making music, but robbing people, hustling.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It was everything was my thing.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
My thing was the bullshit like that, just you know,
because now you know I'm a fat guy like this,
all of a sudden, the girls think I'm handsome. All
of a sudden, I got a crew everywhere I went
there like, yo, that's Joe we crack.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Un Fortunately it was.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
It was the clout on ten thousand at that time,
so it was like going viral before viral, right, Like
everybody knew who I was, wherever I was at Hall
and the Bronx, and so I lived and I thrived
off for that, but I knew I was gonna either
go to jail for you know, my best friends in
jail for forty eight years, he already did thirty three.
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So the guys I was with, they all did thirty
forty years, you know what I'm saying. So I got
lucky that I changed my life and started rapid, you know,
And so hip hop saved my life in many ways.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But you did never think did you ever go to
bed and think, man, damn man, tomorrow I might get
run down on man, God, dang, I need now.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I had the cops on beat.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
I had, you know, the cops try to frame me
for like three times for murder, like this is a
true story. I don't really talk about it, but framed
like should I beat? You know, like they were trying
to get me out of there. The police was trying
to get me out of there. The people was trying
to get me out of it. It was like it
was like what you call that. It was like public
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enemy number one, That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It was like yo.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And but my community loved me. They love Fat Joey,
so they would protect me, you know when the cops came.
The old ladies would let me in their house. They
would they would save me all the time.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
But nah, you know, it was in adrenaline that I
really really loved, you know what I'm saying. And I
started doing it through my music right now. I got
an album coming out next month. It's called The World
Changed on Me.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And so I feel like I'm the last ungentrified rapper,
you know. And I got the bow Dagga on the block.
Neighborhoods changing you know what I'm saying because right now,
sometimes you know, I stopped going on my Live because
I got a real TV show. But I stopped going
because every time I go on my Live, I go
viral six seven times. And it's for stuff that me
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and you because we from another era might think it's normal.
You be like, Yo, Joe talking that shit for somebody
else twenty twenty four, Vision gen.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Z or whatever.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
They looking like Yo, this guy bugging out, like what
is he talking about? So what was normal to us
is no longer normal to everybody in twenty twenty four,
and so you got to be careful, especially when you're
doing it live.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Right when you look at situations, you look at Tupac, Biggie, Nipsey, Hustle,
Young Dolph, Pop Smoke, BnB Rock take a triple extension.
I mean, you were living that life. You were very
fortunate enough to get out of it. Turn yourself around
when you see things that happened twenty to thirty years
ago with tupacin Biggoe and you see it still happening
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to day. How do we how do we transition to
get past that.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
That's a bigger issue, man, It's it's what we call
that the systemic racism. You know, we come from slavery.
That word is not life lightly, you know slavery. And
so I love white people and I don't judge nobody,
and I'm not racist, but you got to understand that
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we come from slavery. The man was so wicked that
when they freed us one hundred years ago, they created
a system that still.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Fuck us in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Do you think how diabolical you got to be to
create laws one hundred something years ago when you slaves
that affects us right now in twenty twenty four. And
so unfortunately, Latinos, blacks, poor people, even white poor people
have this crabs in the barrel mentality, and everybody want
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to be like I'm the one not knowing that you're
greater with a team of people winning.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I always love that bar that.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Jay Z said, if we for we bet each other's crutches,
meaning people think they want to be the one instead
of having all your friends when and when.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We need something to somebody that can actually help us.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
If you the only guy winning, nobody can help you
if you go through something right.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And so.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
The same mentality from the hood trickles down into hip hop,
you know, where a kid And then I don't know
why we we taught ourselves to hate each other? Now
why we hate each other? Like why everybody? Why we
want to hate each other, Why we want to be
jealous of each other? Why we want to you know,
Michael Rubin went Virudavi day for saying some things that
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were actually right. He just wasn't the right messenger. The
message was on, he wasn't the right messenger. And so
you know, you see, with no disrespect, you see a
Jewish guy get in trouble, you don't see the whole
tire Jewish community pulling them down. And oh, I want
your mother to die? And I went and this bro,
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you just celebrated me two months ago.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (17:02):
And so we as a community, blacks and Latinos have
to learn to embrace each other, you know, and love
each other more. And so you know, that's where I'm
at with it, That's where caled is at with it.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That's where we all at with it.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Where we embrace each other, we love each other, and
we uplift everybody and we try to help as much
people as we can to get these young kids. They
be hitting me up for advice, and I give them
the right advice. I'd be like, Yo, you're bugging out right,
you know what I'm saying. Even if I see a
sister bug out like a girl rapper that's hot, or
I hit it quick and be like, no, no, no, no, no,
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you're playing. You're making too much money, You're doing good.
Don't fall for that one. I did that one that
don't work. Stay focused, get your bag.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I do that all the.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Time, Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It seemed like sometimes that we want us to win
until we win. It seemed like they think we're winning
too much and then that's enough winning for you.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Now let me try to take Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
You know smart guys. I know guys that have won.
They're understood that not showing. See, we got two different
ways of doing it right. I believe in inspiration. I'll
come up in here with the watch. I come up
in here flashy, I drive the which through the hood this.
But I'll try to let all a little black and
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brown kids know you can get this. Fat Joe got this,
you can get this. I do it as a former inspiration,
and then some people take it as you just bragging
and show ba. So you see people like Chuck d
Lauryn Hill, Carrius one Common.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You know how much money Common got.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Common Common took me to Chicago in nineteen ninety three
and show me a bunch of buildings he owned the
nineteen ninety three He was like, yo, my grandfather taught
me how to bob God forbid what Common owns me,
and he don't break right. So then you know, you
got guys who knew the whole time it wasn't the
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thing to brag. And so those guys never get looked
at as targets or you showing off or whatever the
case was.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
He but they got a lot of money, right. You know,
we take a different approach. We take an approach of
you only live life once you work for it.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You ain't rob nobody for it.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Enjoy yourself, you know, and make sure your family got
whatever they want.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You know. It's crazy, right.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Friend of mine, she's Jewish, she went to synagogue on
the holiday and she said this rabbi told the story.
He told the story of this rabbi in Brooklyn who
gave everybody everything. So people come to him every day
and they be like, oh, I can't pay my rent.
He paid a rent he take care of everybody, and
so he was the big man everybody.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He was rich, he looked out for everybody.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
So a guy comes up to him and says, I
know this man, he's about to lose his house. He
can't pay his mortgage. He got eight kids, and he's
a good man. He needs a job. So immediately the
rabbi says, I'm gonna help him. We'll pay his house
for five years, we'll get him a job whatever. He
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likes this that he said, you didn't ask me who
the man is. And the rabbi said, who's the man?
He said, your brother, So he said whoa. He is
the guy helping the whole community, but forgot to check
up on his own brother.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And so.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
To me, that story hits because it goes we all
check our family, make sure everything's straight, and didn't help
everybody else as well too. But I just feel like
every day we walking, you know, we live in testimonies.
You know, our journeys are all different, and God gives
us all different journeys, and it's all about influencing and
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motivating and inspiring the youth behind us to not do that.
Joe tell you he did that, but he'll tell you
don't do that.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
That ain't it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Don't make the mistakes that I made. Don't make the
mistakes Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Sometimes I feel like like and correct me if I'm wrong.
That sometimes that once you become a person of affluence,
you have to suppress things that you might want to
do to keep people from thinking, Oh, he thinks he
better than me, or he thinks he's better than me.
And I don't want people to think that. Because I've
been able to make it. Now, I gotta suppress. What
I want to do for myself or what I want
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to do for my family is to not tick off
someone because I might have.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
If they don't, I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I don't do that.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
If you wanted you tooke me, Okay, if I want
that car, get it. I want that watch, I get it.
My daughter eighteen, she got a man truck. My wife
get whatever she wants, my family get anybody I love,
get whatever they want. You see, I employed every single
one of my friends that ever wanted to work. So
if you go on my stores, you almost look like
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they trapping out the sneaky stores. They got Ben's trucks,
Rolexis they live. All my friends that actually want to work.
You know, you come from where I come from. You
got some friends that don't want to work. Correct those guys.
We can't get free money too. That does not happen.
Fad Joe is unextortable, meaning you cannot extort me.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I'd rather die.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Before you extort me. But if you're a friend that
wants to work, all my friends are working. But they work.
They know they got to run the store. This guy
gotta run the management. This guy gotta run the management.
So I'm a list living testimony to Yeah, we could
help our our friends, we could help our community, but
you gotta want to work for it. If you're gonna
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come over there and not work, we can't do it.
But me, I'm the opposite. I know that I work
hard for everything I got. I live every day like
this my last. Every night we sit down, the whole crew.
We eat steak and lobster. The security, each tak and lobster.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Everybody eat. The people that.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Work for me in my house, you know, take care
of my mother, take care of me. They eat steak
and lobster. That's us.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
We gonna go out like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (23:12):
And if I passed whenever I leave my family, they
should be good. But while I'm here, while I bust
my ass for this, Oh no, I'm gonna enjoy it
all to the highest level.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Joe. Let's talk about the beef that happened this summer.
This past summer.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Drake is he's a crescendo, and then it seems like
people that and I think he thought that was cool
with him, all of a sudden came for it. Did
you know that they felt like that about Drake? And
why did so many people seem like he was fanos
and everybody was trying to get you.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I don't want nobody to kill me after this, not literally,
but be upset with me. But Drake's a beautiful guy.
He's always been nice to me. He's always been nice
to everybody.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I'm from the old school, so I'm from the don't
bite the hand that feeds you. I'm for the loyalty,
so I could understand whatever. I don't know the dynamics
of the beef between Kendrick and Drake. I don't know
what that beef was futiful. It might just be good
old hip hop. I'm better than you, You better than me.
You got to come out to the yard, prove it.
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You know, in jail, everybody's a gangster.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
To somebody says, Shannon, come to the yard, get your knife,
let's go to the yard. So Kendrick Lamar told him,
let's go to the yard. It came out, bring your
mic let's go. Now everybody else. I don't know the story,
but I was really shocked how everybody went against them.
I really mean, this is the first time I actually
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even talk about it. Like, I was confused because I
thought everybody was family. I thought everybody was cool. Everybody.
You know, I never did a song with Drake. I
never got a dollar from him. I never benefited from him.
But he's a great person, right And just because I
got a friend who got a bunch of money, who
was the biggest rapp in the world on me, he
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gotta make records with me, I could just love him
because I love him.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And so in the hip hop sense, it was a
great battle. But to answer your thing, Uh, if I
was drink, I'd be very confused on how they they
all collapsed.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
On me because a lot of people, like you said,
ate off the plate that Drake said and for you, Okay,
I get it. People are going at him, and it's
easy when people are it's easy to pil on once
someone else has got you down.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And it seems like Kendrick was doing his thing. It
was a nice it was a nice record was played
they play, I mean they played.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
LA forget it not played you go to LA right now?
They playing that thing every two sets?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
That six Is that Kendrick Lamar stays yet five times
an hour?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Yes, every thirty minutes. Yes, oh no, it's crazy out there.
It's crazy, you know. Uh, but you know, hip hop
battles have always happened since the beginning of the time.
We encourage it. If there's no violence involved. You gotta
come up to the yard. That's why I didn't understand
what Jake Cole ain't come up to the yard. He
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didn't come up to the yard.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You know, I think j Cole is one of the best. Yeah,
you understand.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And maybe you saw this thing with this thing was
headed that He's like, I.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Don't even care, but you got to her. You gotta
come to the yard.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
We come.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
The man summons you.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
You gotta come, joke, come in yard, gotta come, you
gotta come in yard. And I love J Cole and
I love his music, but he gotta come to the
yard like you gotta this hip hop.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's how it started.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
From day one.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Busy B coom O D Cool, j Ice, Tumo D
like this.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
This thing ain't new carr us one mc shan rock
say and Sean Tay, this is what it is. You know,
you gotta come to yard.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So what are your thoughts about Kendrick submitting the song
for the Grammys. And it's not nominally like what four
or five times Song of the Year, regular.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
The year, It's safe to say he got one. When
I heard that, man, I said it on the beat.
I said, oh, he got one. He got one. Even
if it wasn't even a rap battle. We had nothing
to do with the rat bottle and he said, they
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not like us, they not. It would have been a
super smash no matter what the energy but everything. You know,
America love a big fight. Yeah, that's why we watch
football every Sunday. That's why we watched the boxing matches.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's why we.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Love that ship, you know what I'm saying. And then
we love a guy that's good that we want to
see him lose. I got the Kobe's on. I used
to die for Kobe to lose. Be like, I hate Kobe.
He wins all the time. Until he passed away. I
cried like a baby and said, damn, but we need Kobe,
you know what I'm saying. So that's what America's built on.
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The America's built on a big fight to talk to
this that's never gonna change.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Thirty years from now, will we look back on not
like us? Like no Vassiline hit him up going between
if you we're gonna look.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Some people say bigger. Some people say it's bigger because
you got Drake. Yeah, this man put out hisits how
many years rich fifteen years we had never heard in
our life Drake not on the radio with a hit
every like he looked like a god.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And then he goes to war with this other little
fella who going hard.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
And then the homeboy pulls out a Joe Shardy. It's shipper,
were gonna party. That's what they're not like us, right,
they're not like us. It's like a lean back, Uh
is it an.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You could find me in the club.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, that's a that's that's going forever.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I think one time you compared you said, Drake is
like joh Rud and I guess Kendrick is like fifty.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
No, I never said that and put it put it
in the words how you how you framed it.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I never said that.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay. So if we're looking at this battle h joh.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Rule fifty Drake, I just think Drake Drake, because Drake
is so being No.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No, I just think Drake.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
He might have lost the battle, you know what I'm saying,
But I think he lives on to make more hits.
He still does his stadiums. I still think he's the
biggest rap star on the world.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Like I don't. I think he's the biggest rap star
in the world.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
By losing this, does he lose? Does he does any luster,
any shine come off his luster?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah? But we'll soon to see.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
We'll soon to see because if Drake comes out with
ten hits in a row, fifteen hits in a row,
we forget, we forget that he lost the battle.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
See the problem with Jake, with Ja Ruhl and fifty
is that fifty slowed him up to where before that
Ja ru was the Drake of the.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Term with all the heads. That's what.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yeah, So what I'm saying is I believe that Drake
will drop ten fifteen hits in a row and it'll
be like, yo, you caught that l that term like
some you know, some people think jay Z lost the knobs,
but jay Z's jay Z correct, you understand.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
So I think that's what's gonna happen with this.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Can you explain the jah rule in fifty six by
to the best of your estimation? What transpired and why
did it become? They didn't just leave it on the wax.
I mean, it seemed like it was really personal and
they sincerely genuinely dislike each other.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Forever. Still, you know, I had it, you know, I
was squashed the beef, right fat Joe squashing the beef?
I had it, and Irvin Joab was like, nah, we
ain't squashing shit.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah, yeah, I swore I had it, Like I don't
want to put it on fifty, but I think fifty
was almost like yo, Joe, whatever you want to do.
So I had that and then when I went to them,
they was like, fuck that this this that. Do I
recommend for beef to be twenty thirty years? I think
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that's dumb. I think it should be over. I think
it would be show amazing growth for hip hop music if.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Those two squashed it. Yes, yes, and we move on
like you know, like me, I moved on, like you know,
you got to move on from these moments they stuck
and some shit, and every time you just move on.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Fifty.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It seemed like when fifty get into it with somebody,
if it don't lose, he don't, he don't care, He'll.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Get he gonna have a show with fifty two nights ago.
That's why I'm laughing.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
And he was talking my ear off, like the ear off,
And you know this guy, he's so smart and you
in the club and he talking smart shit to.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
You, and you're like, yo fifth, like yo were in
the club.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
He's like yoh because Evan Eshner, you know, I'm like
yo fifth, Like you know. I'm proud of him because
he come from the hood. He come from a tough background.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Think of all the.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
People he fed with all his power and ghosts and
his team. See that's how I look at hip hop
when I see young Doug. Yeah, I want him out
of jail. I want him to employ the one hundred people.
I want him to take care of his family. I
want to make sure his kids go to private school.
That's how I look at all artists as they get
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to feed so many people. Fat Joe, you see, while
he I feed about a hundred people. You know, families
eat Thanksgiving because the Fat Joe. You know, I'm talking
about people who personally.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Work for me.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
You know what I'm saying. And so you know, I'm
proud of him. I'm proud of Joe Rule. I'm proud
of all my brothers. I'm at the point where I'm
about positivity over everything. I could see through the bullshit
and be like, yo, bro, you.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Know, get this money together. You get your bread. I'm
gonna get my bread.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
We don't need to be beefing what we're beefing for.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Matter of fact, I'm talking about bread. I brought you
a gift. It's core rewinded ten and it says, WI
fight the time when you can rewind the time. Now, Shannon,
I'm not putting you in the age group, but maybe
you want your line shop.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Maybe you want your line shops.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
You see, we got that Tyson Beckford, we got that tank.
We got that Travis Kelsey, Nikki jam Brody Jenner, Fat Joe,
DJ Caller. So that's a CBS Sally's beauties were working.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So you want me to get some, get risk of
the get the grays off.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You know the girls.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Don't let them lie to you.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
If a woman tells you she wants you gray and she.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Likes yello, she locks she's trying to keep you out
the game. Because why look fifty four when you could
beat forty four? Why look forty three when you can
look thirty three? That's bullshit. I mean our women they
go first.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I don't know about you. My daughter's eighteen, right, every
week she gets ten facials. I don't know how they
find time, right, they take care of themselves or find
the money for it. Others, Oh no, no, you know
they got it.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
They got y're sharing it. They got it, man, they
got it. And it's like, but they take care of themselves.
I don't see no gray hair on my wife or
none of her friends. Why we can't take care of ourselves?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Rewinded?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Is it true that you lost a twenty plus million
dollar endorsement deal with briand Jordan because of your beef
with fifty Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
I don't know if it was twenty million, but we
had that. I was designing it. With Michael Jordans himself,
so I had seven meetings with him before any before
they messed with any rapper ever created.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So you about to be Travis gott before Travis.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yes, yes, So we were sitting down, we was designing
the sneaker seven times.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I came to Vegas, I came all over.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
And right before we was about to finalize the deal,
we had that beef on the MTV Awards with me
and Fifty went at each other live on the MTV Awards.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And then I got a phone call the next day.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I never forget.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I was in Jamaica and it was like, yo, Big Joe,
because you know, Michael Jones called me Big Joe.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You know, cause you fan Joe from Big Joe, So
Big Joe.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
You know I don't like controversy or this and maybe
in the future this, this, that, and I was right
there and that and you know, rap beef fucked up
a lot of my money. You know what I'm saying
because if you mess with Fifty said, if you mess
with Jayson, people don't know we have subliminal rap be
for jay Z. So if you mess with jay Z,
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you can't give me no money because you got to
be lawyer to jay Z. You got to be lawyer
to fifty cent. You got the rebound deal. That's the
rebound deal. So they shut me down with that one.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
But you know, I understand in war that they didn't
want me to get financially secured like that because they
knew I was dangerous. So I never cried about it,
you know what I'm saying. I just took it like
it is, and and just know that God loves me
and I was eventually.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Going to get my money anyway.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
You know, But you're currently you're cool with I love
my brother fifty cents my brother too. I love them both,
and I champion them, and I'm happy for them, and
and they happy for me.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
When they see me doing good, they happy for me.
They give me the call be like, yo, congrats on
the TV show.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
This this that I'm cool with both of them. That's
what I'm trying to tell you. This rap shit, it
ain't about nothing. What it's about is you uniting and
getting money and taking care of your people and your
community and inspiring the youth that's coming behind you.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
That?
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Ain't you know that Beef may never make me a dollar.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
But that's grown man stuff. How do you get to
the point, how do you get these young young ones,
these young men and women, to get to a point
that they can have adult conversation.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Well, the problem is you got to realize that we
got into hip hop to get out of that bullshit.
Don't bring it with you, you know. So we got
out of it. We how many times we said, Yo,
we want to get out the hood.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
We wanted this. Now you got it.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Now you're living in a nice house, You're taking care
of your moms, your crew. You know, stay focused on
making your music, being creative, being the best artist you
can be, and stay away from all that other shit
because that ain't about nothing. And the biggest rule you
gotta think about is when you're an artist, when you
got your crew or your entourage or your gang or whoever.
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Those other guys don't look at the world like you,
and so you looking at it and you be like, Yo,
I could be the next Yo Gotti, I could be
the next master P, I could be the next this.
If your crew ain't thinking the same thing, they'll fuck
your whole shit up because they don't care. Because this
is Johnny two times, who's Johnny? Two times? Well, he
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killed the same guy two times. You think he give
a fuck about what you're thinking about business or what's
your next creative sound or what movie you want to do?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
He don't care. His job is to kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Two times.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
He'll fuck the whole shit up for everybody.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
So you got to watch who you got and then
let your crew know, y'all we going this way. You know,
my brother's here with me now. Pistol Pete, Pistol Peter,
jail legend, Pistol Pete.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Want of the guys like Pistol Peter ain't in the street,
They just hain't.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
But I had to tame them.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yong bro, we live in good, ain't you vedas?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
And sweet?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Ain't you like chill?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
And over the years, well he's way past that. He's
a grown ass man. But I had to work with
him and my crew. See, because if you're a real leader,
your people shouldn't be going to jail. Your guys can't
easily be manipulated by you to do some shit and
go to jail for twenty years. A true leader don't
send him to jail. He keeps his crew with him.
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He keeps him right, so you know, you sell him
your pistol.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
When I win, you win.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
I don't want you in jail, brother, I don't want
to go visit you in jail.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You're my brother.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
And now he goes to Rikers Island and all places,
mentoring the youth, talking tom how to change their life
when they get out. And he has a podcast too
called Dog in the Yard. But that's what I'm talking about.
That's the true transformation. To watch the guys in your crew,
because the Feds are they watching your crew, the hip
hop police, Oh, they watching your crew. They're not even
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watching you. They're watching your crew. Now who's that, Who's that?
Who's that? Who's that? Who's that?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Now?
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Let's see what they doing, and then that all trickles
back to you and jams you are like they did.
Bobby Schmerder, Bobby Schmurder wasn't a bad guy. He was
a good kid. He got jammed up. He was keeping
it real with his crew from the hood and bringing
them to the studio and somehow got caught up in
some shit and went to jail for seven eight years.
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That kid had such a promising career. You know, they
took it from.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Him, you signed with roten Nation? What made you sign?
Because you could have signed with anybody? What made you
sign with roten Nation.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
There's a woman named desire perez Ry. So she called
me into the office. I had already made peace with Ja.
He was already on the all the way up remix.
And she sat me down, and so this Oji Wan's wife.
She sat me down and said, Yo, you know, I
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think you should be a rock Nation artist and we
should manage you, you know, and to them, you know,
in this game of chest, Fat Joe was a real
big piece to grab a on AA.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
So she said, I know you're doing the deal right now.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
And the deal was for a million dollars. I thought,
I negotiated a great deal. I was negotiating a deal
with somebody. Let's just say one million dollars for this
glass of water. She said, what if I told you
I call that guy right now to give you three
and a half million for that same deal you negotiated
for one million.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I said, let me see. She gott of the number
called the dude said, Yo, you're doing the deal with
Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know this.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
She was like, yeah, it's for one million, right, yeah,
it's three and a half million. Now we manage you.
He said, sure, I send the check tomorrow. Dad's hung
up the phone. Wow, that was it for me. He's like, okay, yeah,
you know that said that's it for me. I come
from nothing. When I see that type of power, I
was like, oh no, I need that, Like that's that
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you know, and we've been happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
For Joe, how does one set aside his pride because,
like you said, you had a little, subtle, not major, Wilhold,
how did you set that aside and say, man, I'm
going to get at this money. That's bs later for
that sitting that to the side. Let me go get
this paper.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
You know what they did to me, Shannon, and I'm
guilty of many, many, many many crimes. Never rape, never murder,
but I've robbed people. I did everything you could do, sool,
every drug you could do, whatever.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
So now I turned my life legit and I trust
these accountants. And accountant fucked me and didn't pay my
taxes while I was sending them wire transfers. The Feds come,
my lawyer shows them that we was paying them the
wire transfers and that he didn't pay my taxes. The
FEDS came back and said, you, as the leader of
your household, is responsible for whoever you hired. So I
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wound up going to jail, and they took all my money,
millions of dollars from me and left me dead broke,
and so I had to come. I never made an excuse.
I never borrowed money from nobody. I had friends that
were millionaires that offered me, Yojo take a million. Pit
Bull the rapper, Yeah, he the only one. He offered
me money. But all my other friends that are rich,
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they were like, Yojoe, let me give you a million dollars.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
You pay me back.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
This my man Eve Philly came crying to me with
a duffel bag of cash, like please, Johnson, I can't
take nobody money.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
So I wanted to perform the Yugoslavia, Africa, China, Poland.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Wherever you named it had a dollar attached to the
bottom of the table. I was out there. I made
no excuses. Thank God, I came back. And so when
God show you that it could all be snatched away,
and then you got an opportunity to put things aside
and work with the powerfuls people in the game. And
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get money together. I would be a fooler turn that.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Then, right this Dame Dash is taking shots to you.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
He was in he was one of the pop guys
in the position he would hold Rockefeller and he's taking
I had him on my show and he didn't really
want to talk about anything, but he saw Occasionally he'll
go on his IG live and say this, this, and
this's what's the issue, what's going on with that?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I don't have no issue with Damn Dash.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
I actually I went back to the video. That's why
I stopped doing my lives. I went back to CEO.
Did I diss him? I didn't diss him, and he
took something I had said prior and just accepted that
and he said that I said he was delusional.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I did not say he was delusional.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
I just said I use an example where jay Z
said in the record, if you made hole, go make
another hole, right And I ain't see nobody make another
hole right now.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Damn Dash.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
You know he has a He's in the point of
his life. It's very sad to see what's going on
with Dave Dash, right.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
But sometimes.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
You're so smart that you stand in the way of
yourself and you block your own blessings and you just
going and going. And and he responded to me so far,
he know what, Tom damon dash, you know what time
it is?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Like, don't you know that? Right? He could have just no, no, no,
but he just know the.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Difference between me and him, right, let's be clear, okay, Joe.
So so the way he came at me was for
me to respond, and then I felt like this was
all a clout click man, and it wasn't that serious.
I respect him as a brilliant mind. I respect hear
this too, Dave. I respect him as a brilliant mind,
somebody who contributed to hip hop so much, and like
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I said, I'm in positivity. My immediately fat Jo Warrior
was to snap back to start and I realized, like, yo, bro,
like this is the man he did so much for
hip hop culture.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
I can't drag him while he's down or I can't.
That's just not in me.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
You know me.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
So I just I stepped to the side. I let
him go at me, take some shots, and was like,
all right.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Damn cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
But you know, it's sad to see where he's at,
right now, to be honest with you, and I don't
know where he's at, but it's sad.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
How do you think jay Z is doing in the
role that he has with the NFL feel great?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I mean the.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Last year was Usher broke the racket?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah? I think it didn't he have? I think Rihanna.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Leanna before that? Jay Lo, what's your carra, It's been incredible.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Ray's new fifty M.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
I did understand Lil Wayne's point of view. Okay, I
did understand cash Money's point of view. It's New Orleans
is a small market. Those are the Kings in New Orleans.
Either way, I love Kendrick perform it, and Kendrick is
the hottest guy in twenty twenty four, So I understood that.
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But I did under you know, usually when people do
some shit, I'm really like, yo, my man, come on, please.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
This was legit.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
This this was legit that Lil Wayne could have performed
in hell Down, that halftime, could have brought Drake, he
could have brought Nicki Minaja, could have brought the hot boys.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I mean, you know, it was legit. It was legit.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It was it.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
Was like I understand, I don't want to take nothing
for Kendrick Lamar because he earned it, you know what
I'm saying. But at the same time, I wouldn't have
mind the cash money have time.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Isn't a situation because we saw what happened at the
LA super Bowl where they had Dre, they had Snoop
because proud of that. We had never seen a situation
where a hometown act got to perform because when it
was in.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Atlanta, they had Maroom five Atlanta. I checked. Maroom five
ain't from the eight.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
They bypassed Usher, they bypassed Outcast and Ti and Luda
and whomever.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Future, all those well who did that. That was before
that was for whole Absolutely, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But I'm saying so I think that we thought that
once jay Z got in there and they saw doctor
Dre and they saw Snoop at LA, they just automatically assume, now,
if the super Bowl is in somebody's hometown, oh they
gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
And it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
Does not, There's not There's a lot of politics to evolve, you.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Know, just like you you from LA, right, you live
in LA.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
Yeah, every one second is Kendrick Lamar on that Ragion.
People who make decisions of the NFL live in LA
and they listening to that radio and every one second
it's Kendrick Lamar. So they thinking that's all over America
ringing norf like that, and so they picked him. He's
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the biggest guy for twenty twenty four. I love it
either way, right, And who's to say that he doesn't
bring out Little Wayne.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Who's to say they don't rock out like that? You
know what.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
The cash money or bring out masters, no limit soldiers
or something, have some aspect of the New Orleans because.
Speaker 6 (49:28):
Mea ax, I'm a big fan of New Orleans hippos
from day one.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
You know what I'm saying. They they helped this hip
hop evolve.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
The cash money, that no limit that you know they
you know, New Orleans always.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Been a shit in hip hop, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I mean they could have would you have felt better
they brought out the Neville Brothers if they brought up
with the Brandon Marcellis. But I'm just saying so, I mean, Harry, Conny, Julie,
their native God bless them.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Maybe they could have played.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
Now I would have respect that it. If Lil Wayne
was performing and the Neville Brothers are playing the music
behind them. That's inclusion, But to hear that, I'd rather
hear Kendrick Lamar all the Cash Money Crew.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
is also posted and you can access it to whichever
podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just
simply go back to club profile and I'll see you there.
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I
am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proproud of
Club Shasha. The guy that's stopping by for conversation and
to drink today, is a certified Golden platinum selling artist,
Billboard chart topping, Grammy nominated for his like Lean Back,
Make It Ring All the Way Up. He's a rapper, producer, executive, philanthropist,
and a cultural icon, the one, the only. Some call
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him Joe Crack, but we know him miss Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Joe. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Man? I love your thanks. You want an introduction? Yes,
I am Fat Joseph, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Proud of it. No you're not.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, I'm proud of and I'm done. Comes again himself too,
if you want it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Where is Joe? Well, oh you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Mean fact Joe. He's he's yeah, he's off playing call
him Juju Black Home six. So I'm his rapper replacement.
You know what I'm saying, rapper replacement. Just lean back.
Come on showing lean back. You look a little Tennis
on dance. I just put up my pants and do
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the ruck away. You gotta lean back, Shannon, See.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Jake, is this some kind of Joe. Where where is
Joe Shannon?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
If you can't lean back, maybe we could throw one back.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, I'm gonna pass up an opportunity to have a
drinke though.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, just you and me?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What is this.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Petroleum?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah? Up? Man? What's the Terror squad?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
People think it's terror like terror. No, it's terror, it's
Mother Earth.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Easy piec.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, since you're here, you fan Joe? Who is your
favorite rapper?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You work with ice Cube?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I adore ice Cube in any way of shape or form,
even in white wine.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
When you were riding lean back? What how did you
come up with that?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I just leaned back like this. It just came, you know,
just came.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
What about what's love?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Take my hand?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Just feel?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's what love is all about?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Interesting? Yeah, I'm not sure that's it, but okay, I.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Just want to become friends with you. That's why I'm here.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's not possible.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I am fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah that concludes this interview.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Where you're going now?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I started liking this. I think let's get the real fact.
Joe here interviewing me.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, guys, let's try this again.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I think fat Joe is from playing Call of Duty,
Black Ops six, So Here We Go. He's a multi
platinum selling rapper. He's had hits records in three different
decades in New York. Legend, one of the Kings of
New York, a cultural icon, Grammy nominative Mega Rap Stars.
He's behind two of the biggest most respected anthems, Lean
Back and All the Way Up. He's one of the
rap industry's first Latino superstars. He sold million direcords. A
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highly respected rapper, songwriter, producer, artist, host, actor, author, media personality,
A successful executive, entrepreneur and philanthropist. He's also a healthcare
price transparency reform advocate. He's a larger than life persona,
one of the rap music most influential artists. One of
hip hop's greatest storytellers. You know him as Joe Krack,
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but here he is, Ladies and gentlemen, Fat Joe.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Thank you so much, My brother, All my life, grinding
all my life, sacrifice, hustle back, prison, one slice, gottor
broisat all my life. I grinding all my life, all
my life and grinning all.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
My sacris price one slice.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Doctor Brother, all my life, Poppy ground in all my.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Life Today We're at Alley Lounge on sixty six at
Resource World, Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Did I do Damn?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I just I just wanted to be like Snoop Dog.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know what I'm saying. You know, let me telling me.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I look at the bar, the TV commercials, I see
Snoop Dog and he sketches out. He's the football guy,
he's the voice.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I'm trying to be a Snoop Dog.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Bro your career, I mean when you growing up, when
Bad Joe was growing up, I thank you're from the Bronx, right,
You're from the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
When you were growing up as a kid, what did
Bad Joe want to be?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I just wanted to be rich. Now I'm telling you
the truth.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I ain't want to be poor, right, and my whole
family before me was poor, and our community.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I like to tell the youth to google this, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Really he looked like the Bronx was in war, like
Ukraine or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's what we grew up at.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
And I remember telling my man's like, yo, this poor
shit ain't for me, and they didn't understand it because
all he was was poor. So I'm like twelve years
old talking about Yo, I gotta get to the bag.
I gotta I gotta get it. And so that's that.
I think that's what Fat Joe was even since a kid.
He was just a hustler, always ready to go get
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the money.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You tell the story I read where you were like
bullied as a kid, and one time you were getting
bullied and you was getting jumped and your homeboy, who's
with you?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Because he didn't want to get jumped. He joked in
with them and beat you there.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Well, they told him, they said, yo, what you're doing
with this kid? So what happens is I grew up
in the ninety percent black neighborhood. Okay, right, So my
mother was there forty years before me, So when I
grew up, I never saw racism. I was just little
Joey from the block. Right then I got thrown out
him junior high school. So they put me in my
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grandmother's neighborhood. There was ninety nine point nine percent black,
but they never seen a Spanish guy like me.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So I'm walking up in there, Joey Krack, I'm the
same guy.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
They're like, oh, we're not trying to play this shit around,
and we never seen one of these right right, And
so every day I.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Had to fight twenty guys. And then my best friend,
he was black, his name was Leonard. My mom's cooked
for him every day, take care of him. And one
day they came up to him and they was like, yo,
why you beat with the Puerto Rican dude? And he's like,
that's my friend. And they said, well, if you don't
beat him up today with us, we gonna beat your
ass like we beat him every day. And he jumped me.
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And that that moment right there changed my whole life.
That was the birth of Joey Krack. It was no
longer fat Joey. It was like, all right, I don't
care about nobody, Like I'm ready to go to war
with every human being. My heart just turned black. Like
it was like I'm giving it to everybody. And that's
where the legend of Joey Krack began.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Did you guys remain friend? Did you understand? Did you
understand the situation?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Man?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I cried for like ten hours. I had a black
hoodie on, black jeans and black chuck of Thames and
I just kept trying this and I was crying like
I don't give a fuck about nobody. I'm gonna punish
every body.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It was over.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Like from that point on, you don't start robbing people.
I started wilding. I create the terror squad that you know.
That's that's where all lot went into play.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So that was the birth of joe Krat. Joey Krast
that that way, it was that.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Moment that was a defining moment of my life. It
was it was really sad. You know, I have your
best friend beat you up with the guys that used
to bully you. That was hard for me.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You were shot, you were shot at you remember do
you remember those moments?
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Oh my god, I've been shot at like thirty So
I was a problem. Like I was like a giant problem.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Like you know.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It was like every day I came out of my
house to fight three different guys.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Every day. It was it was just we was.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Wilding and so guys, you know, they wanted to kill me,
you know what I mean. So they shot at me
maybe thirty forty times. And one time I'm in a
rental car. We were about to go retaliate and the
guy comes. I had a guy shoot at me like
eight times in two days. He looked like the movie
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Marked for Death. Ecuadorian kid.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
He just was.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Coming at me, kept going, kept going, kept going. So
we in a rental car ready to go get him.
They shoot up the whole rental car, me and my
guy Torn Duck. I heard the death of Fat Joe
because the people in front of my building.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All the old ladies, was like, oh my God, I
don't want Yoe. They killed yo.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Y'oll y'all like wow, and we peek up like.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Just broke glasses.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
So that's why God is so real, Shannon, because so
many times in my life. One time I robbed these
Dominican dudes and they came back the next day. I
was walking with a girl with no gun.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
They jump out.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
None of them were guns, all kind of sizes. So
they jump on me. They're ready to kill me. I
deserve it. I just stuck them up yesterday. Right then,
my guy, my brother Opie, who is the biggest guy
in the neighborhood, happened to stop in the motorcycle and
they respected him. He was like, yo, that's my brother.
They was like yo, this guy. Opie was like yo,
give him a pass. They give him a pass. That's
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why I know about divine intervention. That's why I know
God spared my life so I could do the kind
of things I do now when you say healthcare price transparency,
or philanthropy, or giving back to my community, or opening
businesses in my community, single parent mothers buying homes because
we give them the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So for me, I just give it all all glory.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
To God for sparing my life to get to this
point and work and spread his message through a real one.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But that didn't stop you.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Even though your boy interve is, hey give him a path,
give grace, that wasn't enough to stop you in that moment,
because Joe, you said, you guys shot at thirty seven
forty times. You like they say a cat has nine lives,
You like.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The orange cat.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
He's a bully on the block, and Kate nothing to
get rid of it now you can't. And we were
really really strong too, So I had a bunch of
strong guys with me too, who just they held the
fort down like something else you know, Uh yeah, you know.
Hip hop music saved my life pretty much. Diamond D
digging in the Crates Crew. They came out from my
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neighborhood that Lord Fin that showed me it was possible.
But Diamond said, joe they're gonna kill you out here.
And to this day he's one of my best friends.
So he was like, put your stuff through music man,
let me take you to the studio. I know you
got money, let me pay for the studio. He paid
for the studio and had me record like two three songs,
and he was like, change your life, please.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
They're going to kill you.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And his moms used to talk to me too, so
she was like, Joey, they're gonna kill you out here
like chill. And then once I got a record deal,
I went to the Apollo Theater one four week to
the world. But once read Alert discovered me and they
gave me a record deal, I changed my whole life
like Cinderella, like night and day, like just I'm gonna
go and make my life this way. That is the
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only opportunity I got, and I'm not gonna stop. And
I don't want to know about drugs. I don't want
to know about robbing people. I don't want to know yo,
I don't want to hear nothing. I changed my life
and it's almost like a Robin Hood Cinderella story.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
From that point on, I never focused on crime.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well you but.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Let me ask you a question, like when you were
jacking people, were you rapping also being on the side
or you well, you just just.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Just making music, but robbing people, hustling.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It was everything was my thing.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
My thing was the bullshit like that, just you know,
because now you know I'm a fat guy like this,
all of a sudden, the girls think I'm handsome. All
of a sudden, I got a crew everywhere I went
there like, yo, that's Joe we crack.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Un Fortunately it was.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
It was the clout on ten thousand at that time,
so it was like going viral before viral, right, Like
everybody knew who I was, wherever I was at Hall
and the Bronx, and so I lived and I thrived
off for that, but I knew I was gonna either
go to jail for you know, my best friends in
jail for forty eight years, he already did thirty three.
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So the guys I was with, they all did thirty
forty years, you know what I'm saying. So I got
lucky that I changed my life and started rapid, you know,
And so hip hop saved my life in many ways.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But you did never think did you ever go to
bed and think, man, damn man, tomorrow I might get
run down on man, God, dang, I need now.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I had the cops on beat.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
I had, you know, the cops try to frame me
for like three times for murder, like this is a
true story. I don't really talk about it, but framed
like should I beat? You know, like they were trying
to get me out of there. The police was trying
to get me out of there. The people was trying
to get me out of it. It was like it
was like what you call that. It was like public
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enemy number one, That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It was like yo.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And but my community loved me. They love Fat Joey,
so they would protect me, you know when the cops came.
The old ladies would let me in their house. They
would they would save me all the time.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
But nah, you know, it was in adrenaline that I
really really loved, you know what I'm saying. And I
started doing it through my music right now. I got
an album coming out next month. It's called The World
Changed on Me.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And so I feel like I'm the last ungentrified rapper,
you know. And I got the bow Dagga on the block.
Neighborhoods changing you know what I'm saying because right now,
sometimes you know, I stopped going on my Live because
I got a real TV show. But I stopped going
because every time I go on my Live, I go
viral six seven times. And it's for stuff that me
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and you because we from another era might think it's normal.
You be like, Yo, Joe talking that shit for somebody
else twenty twenty four, Vision gen.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Z or whatever.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
They looking like Yo, this guy bugging out, like what
is he talking about? So what was normal to us
is no longer normal to everybody in twenty twenty four,
and so you got to be careful, especially when you're
doing it live.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Right when you look at situations, you look at Tupac, Biggie, Nipsey, Hustle,
Young Dolph, Pop Smoke, BnB Rock take a triple extension.
I mean, you were living that life. You were very
fortunate enough to get out of it. Turn yourself around
when you see things that happened twenty to thirty years
ago with tupacin Biggoe and you see it still happening
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to day. How do we how do we transition to
get past that.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
That's a bigger issue, man, It's it's what we call
that the systemic racism. You know, we come from slavery.
That word is not life lightly, you know slavery. And
so I love white people and I don't judge nobody,
and I'm not racist, but you got to understand that
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we come from slavery. The man was so wicked that
when they freed us one hundred years ago, they created
a system that still.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Fuck us in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Do you think how diabolical you got to be to
create laws one hundred something years ago when you slaves
that affects us right now in twenty twenty four. And
so unfortunately, Latinos, blacks, poor people, even white poor people
have this crabs in the barrel mentality, and everybody want
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to be like I'm the one not knowing that you're
greater with a team of people winning.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I always love that bar that.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Jay Z said, if we for we bet each other's crutches,
meaning people think they want to be the one instead
of having all your friends when and when.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We need something to somebody that can actually help us.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
If you the only guy winning, nobody can help you
if you go through something right.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And so.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
The same mentality from the hood trickles down into hip hop,
you know, where a kid And then I don't know
why we we taught ourselves to hate each other? Now
why we hate each other? Like why everybody? Why we
want to hate each other, Why we want to be
jealous of each other? Why we want to you know,
Michael Rubin went Virudavi day for saying some things that
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were actually right. He just wasn't the right messenger. The
message was on, he wasn't the right messenger. And so
you know, you see, with no disrespect, you see a
Jewish guy get in trouble, you don't see the whole
tire Jewish community pulling them down. And oh, I want
your mother to die? And I went and this bro,
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you just celebrated me two months ago.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (17:02):
And so we as a community, blacks and Latinos have
to learn to embrace each other, you know, and love
each other more. And so you know, that's where I'm
at with it, That's where caled is at with it.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That's where we all at with it.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Where we embrace each other, we love each other, and
we uplift everybody and we try to help as much
people as we can to get these young kids. They
be hitting me up for advice, and I give them
the right advice. I'd be like, Yo, you're bugging out right,
you know what I'm saying. Even if I see a
sister bug out like a girl rapper that's hot, or
I hit it quick and be like, no, no, no, no, no,
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you're playing. You're making too much money, You're doing good.
Don't fall for that one. I did that one that
don't work. Stay focused, get your bag.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I do that all the.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Time, Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It seemed like sometimes that we want us to win
until we win. It seemed like they think we're winning
too much and then that's enough winning for you.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Now let me try to take Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
You know smart guys. I know guys that have won.
They're understood that not showing. See, we got two different
ways of doing it right. I believe in inspiration. I'll
come up in here with the watch. I come up
in here flashy, I drive the which through the hood this.
But I'll try to let all a little black and
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brown kids know you can get this. Fat Joe got this,
you can get this. I do it as a former inspiration,
and then some people take it as you just bragging
and show ba. So you see people like Chuck d
Lauryn Hill, Carrius one Common.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You know how much money Common got.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Common Common took me to Chicago in nineteen ninety three
and show me a bunch of buildings he owned the
nineteen ninety three He was like, yo, my grandfather taught
me how to bob God forbid what Common owns me,
and he don't break right. So then you know, you
got guys who knew the whole time it wasn't the
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thing to brag. And so those guys never get looked
at as targets or you showing off or whatever the
case was.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
He but they got a lot of money, right. You know,
we take a different approach. We take an approach of
you only live life once you work for it.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You ain't rob nobody for it.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Enjoy yourself, you know, and make sure your family got
whatever they want.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You know. It's crazy, right.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Friend of mine, she's Jewish, she went to synagogue on
the holiday and she said this rabbi told the story.
He told the story of this rabbi in Brooklyn who
gave everybody everything. So people come to him every day
and they be like, oh, I can't pay my rent.
He paid a rent he take care of everybody, and
so he was the big man everybody.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He was rich, he looked out for everybody.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
So a guy comes up to him and says, I
know this man, he's about to lose his house. He
can't pay his mortgage. He got eight kids, and he's
a good man. He needs a job. So immediately the
rabbi says, I'm gonna help him. We'll pay his house
for five years, we'll get him a job whatever. He
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likes this that he said, you didn't ask me who
the man is. And the rabbi said, who's the man?
He said, your brother, So he said whoa. He is
the guy helping the whole community, but forgot to check
up on his own brother.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And so.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
To me, that story hits because it goes we all
check our family, make sure everything's straight, and didn't help
everybody else as well too. But I just feel like
every day we walking, you know, we live in testimonies.
You know, our journeys are all different, and God gives
us all different journeys, and it's all about influencing and
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motivating and inspiring the youth behind us to not do that.
Joe tell you he did that, but he'll tell you
don't do that.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
That ain't it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Don't make the mistakes that I made. Don't make the
mistakes Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Sometimes I feel like like and correct me if I'm wrong.
That sometimes that once you become a person of affluence,
you have to suppress things that you might want to
do to keep people from thinking, Oh, he thinks he
better than me, or he thinks he's better than me.
And I don't want people to think that. Because I've
been able to make it. Now, I gotta suppress. What
I want to do for myself or what I want
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to do for my family is to not tick off
someone because I might have.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
If they don't, I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I don't do that.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
If you wanted you tooke me, Okay, if I want
that car, get it. I want that watch, I get it.
My daughter eighteen, she got a man truck. My wife
get whatever she wants, my family get anybody I love,
get whatever they want. You see, I employed every single
one of my friends that ever wanted to work. So
if you go on my stores, you almost look like
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they trapping out the sneaky stores. They got Ben's trucks,
Rolexis they live. All my friends that actually want to work.
You know, you come from where I come from. You
got some friends that don't want to work. Correct those guys.
We can't get free money too. That does not happen.
Fad Joe is unextortable, meaning you cannot extort me.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I'd rather die.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Before you extort me. But if you're a friend that
wants to work, all my friends are working. But they work.
They know they got to run the store. This guy
gotta run the management. This guy gotta run the management.
So I'm a list living testimony to Yeah, we could
help our our friends, we could help our community, but
you gotta want to work for it. If you're gonna
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come over there and not work, we can't do it.
But me, I'm the opposite. I know that I work
hard for everything I got. I live every day like
this my last. Every night we sit down, the whole crew.
We eat steak and lobster. The security, each tak and lobster.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Everybody eat. The people that.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Work for me in my house, you know, take care
of my mother, take care of me. They eat steak
and lobster. That's us.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
We gonna go out like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (23:12):
And if I passed whenever I leave my family, they
should be good. But while I'm here, while I bust
my ass for this, Oh no, I'm gonna enjoy it
all to the highest level.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Joe. Let's talk about the beef that happened this summer.
This past summer.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Drake is he's a crescendo, and then it seems like
people that and I think he thought that was cool
with him, all of a sudden came for it. Did
you know that they felt like that about Drake? And
why did so many people seem like he was fanos
and everybody was trying to get you.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I don't want nobody to kill me after this, not literally,
but be upset with me. But Drake's a beautiful guy.
He's always been nice to me. He's always been nice
to everybody.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I'm from the old school, so I'm from the don't
bite the hand that feeds you. I'm for the loyalty,
so I could understand whatever. I don't know the dynamics
of the beef between Kendrick and Drake. I don't know
what that beef was futiful. It might just be good
old hip hop. I'm better than you, You better than me.
You got to come out to the yard, prove it.
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You know, in jail, everybody's a gangster.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
To somebody says, Shannon, come to the yard, get your knife,
let's go to the yard. So Kendrick Lamar told him,
let's go to the yard. It came out, bring your
mic let's go. Now everybody else. I don't know the story,
but I was really shocked how everybody went against them.
I really mean, this is the first time I actually
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even talk about it. Like, I was confused because I
thought everybody was family. I thought everybody was cool. Everybody.
You know, I never did a song with Drake. I
never got a dollar from him. I never benefited from him.
But he's a great person, right And just because I
got a friend who got a bunch of money, who
was the biggest rapp in the world on me, he
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gotta make records with me, I could just love him
because I love him.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And so in the hip hop sense, it was a
great battle. But to answer your thing, Uh, if I
was drink, I'd be very confused on how they they
all collapsed.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
On me because a lot of people, like you said,
ate off the plate that Drake said and for you, Okay,
I get it. People are going at him, and it's
easy when people are it's easy to pil on once
someone else has got you down.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And it seems like Kendrick was doing his thing. It
was a nice it was a nice record was played
they play, I mean they played.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
LA forget it not played you go to LA right now?
They playing that thing every two sets?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
That six Is that Kendrick Lamar stays yet five times
an hour?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Yes, every thirty minutes. Yes, oh no, it's crazy out there.
It's crazy, you know. Uh, but you know, hip hop
battles have always happened since the beginning of the time.
We encourage it. If there's no violence involved. You gotta
come up to the yard. That's why I didn't understand
what Jake Cole ain't come up to the yard. He
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didn't come up to the yard.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You know, I think j Cole is one of the best. Yeah,
you understand.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And maybe you saw this thing with this thing was
headed that He's like, I.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Don't even care, but you got to her. You gotta
come to the yard.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
We come.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
The man summons you.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
You gotta come, joke, come in yard, gotta come, you
gotta come in yard. And I love J Cole and
I love his music, but he gotta come to the
yard like you gotta this hip hop.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's how it started.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
From day one.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Busy B coom O D Cool, j Ice, Tumo D
like this.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
This thing ain't new carr us one mc shan rock
say and Sean Tay, this is what it is. You know,
you gotta come to yard.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So what are your thoughts about Kendrick submitting the song
for the Grammys. And it's not nominally like what four
or five times Song of the Year, regular.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
The year, It's safe to say he got one. When
I heard that, man, I said it on the beat.
I said, oh, he got one. He got one. Even
if it wasn't even a rap battle. We had nothing
to do with the rat bottle and he said, they
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not like us, they not. It would have been a
super smash no matter what the energy but everything. You know,
America love a big fight. Yeah, that's why we watch
football every Sunday. That's why we watched the boxing matches.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's why we.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Love that ship, you know what I'm saying. And then
we love a guy that's good that we want to
see him lose. I got the Kobe's on. I used
to die for Kobe to lose. Be like, I hate Kobe.
He wins all the time. Until he passed away. I
cried like a baby and said, damn, but we need Kobe,
you know what I'm saying. So that's what America's built on.
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The America's built on a big fight to talk to
this that's never gonna change.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Thirty years from now, will we look back on not
like us? Like no Vassiline hit him up going between
if you we're gonna look.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Some people say bigger. Some people say it's bigger because
you got Drake. Yeah, this man put out hisits how
many years rich fifteen years we had never heard in
our life Drake not on the radio with a hit
every like he looked like a god.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And then he goes to war with this other little
fella who going hard.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
And then the homeboy pulls out a Joe Shardy. It's shipper,
were gonna party. That's what they're not like us, right,
they're not like us. It's like a lean back, Uh
is it an.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You could find me in the club.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, that's a that's that's going forever.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I think one time you compared you said, Drake is
like joh Rud and I guess Kendrick is like fifty.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
No, I never said that and put it put it
in the words how you how you framed it.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I never said that.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay. So if we're looking at this battle h joh.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Rule fifty Drake, I just think Drake Drake, because Drake
is so being No.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No, I just think Drake.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
He might have lost the battle, you know what I'm saying,
But I think he lives on to make more hits.
He still does his stadiums. I still think he's the
biggest rap star on the world.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Like I don't. I think he's the biggest rap star
in the world.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
By losing this, does he lose? Does he does any luster,
any shine come off his luster?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah? But we'll soon to see.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
We'll soon to see because if Drake comes out with
ten hits in a row, fifteen hits in a row,
we forget, we forget that he lost the battle.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
See the problem with Jake, with Ja Ruhl and fifty
is that fifty slowed him up to where before that
Ja ru was the Drake of the.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Term with all the heads. That's what.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yeah, So what I'm saying is I believe that Drake
will drop ten fifteen hits in a row and it'll
be like, yo, you caught that l that term like
some you know, some people think jay Z lost the knobs,
but jay Z's jay Z correct, you understand.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
So I think that's what's gonna happen with this.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Can you explain the jah rule in fifty six by
to the best of your estimation? What transpired and why
did it become? They didn't just leave it on the wax.
I mean, it seemed like it was really personal and
they sincerely genuinely dislike each other.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Forever. Still, you know, I had it, you know, I
was squashed the beef, right fat Joe squashing the beef?
I had it, and Irvin Joab was like, nah, we
ain't squashing shit.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah, yeah, I swore I had it, Like I don't
want to put it on fifty, but I think fifty
was almost like yo, Joe, whatever you want to do.
So I had that and then when I went to them,
they was like, fuck that this this that. Do I
recommend for beef to be twenty thirty years? I think
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that's dumb. I think it should be over. I think
it would be show amazing growth for hip hop music if.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Those two squashed it. Yes, yes, and we move on
like you know, like me, I moved on, like you know,
you got to move on from these moments they stuck
and some shit, and every time you just move on.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Fifty.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It seemed like when fifty get into it with somebody,
if it don't lose, he don't, he don't care, He'll.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Get he gonna have a show with fifty two nights ago.
That's why I'm laughing.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
And he was talking my ear off, like the ear off,
And you know this guy, he's so smart and you
in the club and he talking smart shit to.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
You, and you're like, yo fifth, like yo were in
the club.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
He's like yoh because Evan Eshner, you know, I'm like
yo fifth, Like you know. I'm proud of him because
he come from the hood. He come from a tough background.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Think of all the.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
People he fed with all his power and ghosts and
his team. See that's how I look at hip hop
when I see young Doug. Yeah, I want him out
of jail. I want him to employ the one hundred people.
I want him to take care of his family. I
want to make sure his kids go to private school.
That's how I look at all artists as they get
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to feed so many people. Fat Joe, you see, while
he I feed about a hundred people. You know, families
eat Thanksgiving because the Fat Joe. You know, I'm talking
about people who personally.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Work for me.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
You know what I'm saying. And so you know, I'm
proud of him. I'm proud of Joe Rule. I'm proud
of all my brothers. I'm at the point where I'm
about positivity over everything. I could see through the bullshit
and be like, yo, bro, you.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Know, get this money together. You get your bread. I'm
gonna get my bread.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
We don't need to be beefing what we're beefing for.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Matter of fact, I'm talking about bread. I brought you
a gift. It's core rewinded ten and it says, WI
fight the time when you can rewind the time. Now, Shannon,
I'm not putting you in the age group, but maybe
you want your line shop.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Maybe you want your line shops.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
You see, we got that Tyson Beckford, we got that tank.
We got that Travis Kelsey, Nikki jam Brody Jenner, Fat Joe,
DJ Caller. So that's a CBS Sally's beauties were working.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So you want me to get some, get risk of
the get the grays off.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You know the girls.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Don't let them lie to you.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
If a woman tells you she wants you gray and she.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Likes yello, she locks she's trying to keep you out
the game. Because why look fifty four when you could
beat forty four? Why look forty three when you can
look thirty three? That's bullshit. I mean our women they
go first.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I don't know about you. My daughter's eighteen, right, every
week she gets ten facials. I don't know how they
find time, right, they take care of themselves or find
the money for it. Others, Oh no, no, you know
they got it.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
They got y're sharing it. They got it, man, they
got it. And it's like, but they take care of themselves.
I don't see no gray hair on my wife or
none of her friends. Why we can't take care of ourselves?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Rewinded?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Is it true that you lost a twenty plus million
dollar endorsement deal with briand Jordan because of your beef
with fifty Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
I don't know if it was twenty million, but we
had that. I was designing it. With Michael Jordans himself,
so I had seven meetings with him before any before
they messed with any rapper ever created.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So you about to be Travis gott before Travis.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yes, yes, So we were sitting down, we was designing
the sneaker seven times.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I came to Vegas, I came all over.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
And right before we was about to finalize the deal,
we had that beef on the MTV Awards with me
and Fifty went at each other live on the MTV Awards.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And then I got a phone call the next day.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I never forget.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I was in Jamaica and it was like, yo, Big Joe,
because you know, Michael Jones called me Big Joe.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You know, cause you fan Joe from Big Joe, So
Big Joe.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
You know I don't like controversy or this and maybe
in the future this, this, that, and I was right
there and that and you know, rap beef fucked up
a lot of my money. You know what I'm saying
because if you mess with Fifty said, if you mess
with Jayson, people don't know we have subliminal rap be
for jay Z. So if you mess with jay Z,
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you can't give me no money because you got to
be lawyer to jay Z. You got to be lawyer
to fifty cent. You got the rebound deal. That's the
rebound deal. So they shut me down with that one.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
But you know, I understand in war that they didn't
want me to get financially secured like that because they
knew I was dangerous. So I never cried about it,
you know what I'm saying. I just took it like
it is, and and just know that God loves me
and I was eventually.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Going to get my money anyway.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
You know, But you're currently you're cool with I love
my brother fifty cents my brother too. I love them both,
and I champion them, and I'm happy for them, and
and they happy for me.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
When they see me doing good, they happy for me.
They give me the call be like, yo, congrats on
the TV show.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
This this that I'm cool with both of them. That's
what I'm trying to tell you. This rap shit, it
ain't about nothing. What it's about is you uniting and
getting money and taking care of your people and your
community and inspiring the youth that's coming behind you.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
That?
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Ain't you know that Beef may never make me a dollar.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
But that's grown man stuff. How do you get to
the point, how do you get these young young ones,
these young men and women, to get to a point
that they can have adult conversation.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Well, the problem is you got to realize that we
got into hip hop to get out of that bullshit.
Don't bring it with you, you know. So we got
out of it. We how many times we said, Yo,
we want to get out the hood.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
We wanted this. Now you got it.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Now you're living in a nice house, You're taking care
of your moms, your crew. You know, stay focused on
making your music, being creative, being the best artist you
can be, and stay away from all that other shit
because that ain't about nothing. And the biggest rule you
gotta think about is when you're an artist, when you
got your crew or your entourage or your gang or whoever.
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Those other guys don't look at the world like you,
and so you looking at it and you be like, Yo,
I could be the next Yo Gotti, I could be
the next master P, I could be the next this.
If your crew ain't thinking the same thing, they'll fuck
your whole shit up because they don't care. Because this
is Johnny two times, who's Johnny? Two times? Well, he
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killed the same guy two times. You think he give
a fuck about what you're thinking about business or what's
your next creative sound or what movie you want to do?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
He don't care. His job is to kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Two times.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
He'll fuck the whole shit up for everybody.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
So you got to watch who you got and then
let your crew know, y'all we going this way. You know,
my brother's here with me now. Pistol Pete, Pistol Peter,
jail legend, Pistol Pete.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Want of the guys like Pistol Peter ain't in the street,
They just hain't.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
But I had to tame them.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yong bro, we live in good, ain't you vedas?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
And sweet?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Ain't you like chill?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
And over the years, well he's way past that. He's
a grown ass man. But I had to work with
him and my crew. See, because if you're a real leader,
your people shouldn't be going to jail. Your guys can't
easily be manipulated by you to do some shit and
go to jail for twenty years. A true leader don't
send him to jail. He keeps his crew with him.
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He keeps him right, so you know, you sell him
your pistol.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
When I win, you win.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
I don't want you in jail, brother, I don't want
to go visit you in jail.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You're my brother.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
And now he goes to Rikers Island and all places,
mentoring the youth, talking tom how to change their life
when they get out. And he has a podcast too
called Dog in the Yard. But that's what I'm talking about.
That's the true transformation. To watch the guys in your crew,
because the Feds are they watching your crew, the hip
hop police, Oh, they watching your crew. They're not even
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watching you. They're watching your crew. Now who's that, Who's that?
Who's that? Who's that? Who's that?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Now?
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Let's see what they doing, and then that all trickles
back to you and jams you are like they did.
Bobby Schmerder, Bobby Schmurder wasn't a bad guy. He was
a good kid. He got jammed up. He was keeping
it real with his crew from the hood and bringing
them to the studio and somehow got caught up in
some shit and went to jail for seven eight years.
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That kid had such a promising career. You know, they
took it from.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Him, you signed with roten Nation? What made you sign?
Because you could have signed with anybody? What made you
sign with roten Nation.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
There's a woman named desire perez Ry. So she called
me into the office. I had already made peace with Ja.
He was already on the all the way up remix.
And she sat me down, and so this Oji Wan's wife.
She sat me down and said, Yo, you know, I
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think you should be a rock Nation artist and we
should manage you, you know, and to them, you know,
in this game of chest, Fat Joe was a real
big piece to grab a on AA.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
So she said, I know you're doing the deal right now.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
And the deal was for a million dollars. I thought,
I negotiated a great deal. I was negotiating a deal
with somebody. Let's just say one million dollars for this
glass of water. She said, what if I told you
I call that guy right now to give you three
and a half million for that same deal you negotiated
for one million.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
I said, let me see. She gott of the number
called the dude said, Yo, you're doing the deal with
Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know this.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
She was like, yeah, it's for one million, right, yeah,
it's three and a half million. Now we manage you.
He said, sure, I send the check tomorrow. Dad's hung
up the phone. Wow, that was it for me. He's like, okay, yeah,
you know that said that's it for me. I come
from nothing. When I see that type of power, I
was like, oh no, I need that, Like that's that
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you know, and we've been happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
For Joe, how does one set aside his pride because,
like you said, you had a little, subtle, not major, Wilhold,
how did you set that aside and say, man, I'm
going to get at this money. That's bs later for
that sitting that to the side. Let me go get
this paper.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
You know what they did to me, Shannon, and I'm
guilty of many, many, many many crimes. Never rape, never murder,
but I've robbed people. I did everything you could do, sool,
every drug you could do, whatever.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
So now I turned my life legit and I trust
these accountants. And accountant fucked me and didn't pay my
taxes while I was sending them wire transfers. The Feds come,
my lawyer shows them that we was paying them the
wire transfers and that he didn't pay my taxes. The
FEDS came back and said, you, as the leader of
your household, is responsible for whoever you hired. So I
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wound up going to jail, and they took all my money,
millions of dollars from me and left me dead broke,
and so I had to come. I never made an excuse.
I never borrowed money from nobody. I had friends that
were millionaires that offered me, Yojo take a million. Pit
Bull the rapper, Yeah, he the only one. He offered
me money. But all my other friends that are rich,
(43:35):
they were like, Yojoe, let me give you a million dollars.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
You pay me back.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
This my man Eve Philly came crying to me with
a duffel bag of cash, like please, Johnson, I can't
take nobody money.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
So I wanted to perform the Yugoslavia, Africa, China, Poland.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Wherever you named it had a dollar attached to the
bottom of the table. I was out there. I made
no excuses. Thank God, I came back. And so when
God show you that it could all be snatched away,
and then you got an opportunity to put things aside
and work with the powerfuls people in the game. And
(44:12):
get money together. I would be a fooler turn that.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Then, right this Dame Dash is taking shots to you.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
He was in he was one of the pop guys
in the position he would hold Rockefeller and he's taking
I had him on my show and he didn't really
want to talk about anything, but he saw Occasionally he'll
go on his IG live and say this, this, and
this's what's the issue, what's going on with that?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I don't have no issue with Damn Dash.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
I actually I went back to the video. That's why
I stopped doing my lives. I went back to CEO.
Did I diss him? I didn't diss him, and he
took something I had said prior and just accepted that
and he said that I said he was delusional.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I did not say he was delusional.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
I just said I use an example where jay Z
said in the record, if you made hole, go make
another hole, right And I ain't see nobody make another
hole right now.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Damn Dash.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
You know he has a He's in the point of
his life. It's very sad to see what's going on
with Dave Dash, right.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
But sometimes.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
You're so smart that you stand in the way of
yourself and you block your own blessings and you just
going and going. And and he responded to me so far,
he know what, Tom damon dash, you know what time
it is?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Like, don't you know that? Right? He could have just no, no, no,
but he just know the.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Difference between me and him, right, let's be clear, okay, Joe.
So so the way he came at me was for
me to respond, and then I felt like this was
all a clout click man, and it wasn't that serious.
I respect him as a brilliant mind. I respect hear
this too, Dave. I respect him as a brilliant mind,
somebody who contributed to hip hop so much, and like
(46:09):
I said, I'm in positivity. My immediately fat Jo Warrior
was to snap back to start and I realized, like, yo, bro,
like this is the man he did so much for
hip hop culture.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
I can't drag him while he's down or I can't.
That's just not in me.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
You know me.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
So I just I stepped to the side. I let
him go at me, take some shots, and was like,
all right.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Damn cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
But you know, it's sad to see where he's at,
right now, to be honest with you, and I don't
know where he's at, but it's sad.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
How do you think jay Z is doing in the
role that he has with the NFL feel great?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I mean the.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Last year was Usher broke the racket?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah? I think it didn't he have? I think Rihanna.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Leanna before that? Jay Lo, what's your carra, It's been incredible.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Ray's new fifty M.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
I did understand Lil Wayne's point of view. Okay, I
did understand cash Money's point of view. It's New Orleans
is a small market. Those are the Kings in New Orleans.
Either way, I love Kendrick perform it, and Kendrick is
the hottest guy in twenty twenty four, So I understood that.
(47:27):
But I did under you know, usually when people do
some shit, I'm really like, yo, my man, come on, please.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
This was legit.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
This this was legit that Lil Wayne could have performed
in hell Down, that halftime, could have brought Drake, he
could have brought Nicki Minaja, could have brought the hot boys.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I mean, you know, it was legit. It was legit.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It was it.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
Was like I understand, I don't want to take nothing
for Kendrick Lamar because he earned it, you know what
I'm saying. But at the same time, I wouldn't have
mind the cash money have time.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Isn't a situation because we saw what happened at the
LA super Bowl where they had Dre, they had Snoop
because proud of that. We had never seen a situation
where a hometown act got to perform because when it
was in.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Atlanta, they had Maroom five Atlanta. I checked. Maroom five
ain't from the eight.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
They bypassed Usher, they bypassed Outcast and Ti and Luda
and whomever.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Future, all those well who did that. That was before
that was for whole Absolutely, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But I'm saying so I think that we thought that
once jay Z got in there and they saw doctor
Dre and they saw Snoop at LA, they just automatically assume, now,
if the super Bowl is in somebody's hometown, oh they
gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
And it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
Does not, There's not There's a lot of politics to evolve, you.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Know, just like you you from LA, right, you live
in LA.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
Yeah, every one second is Kendrick Lamar on that Ragion.
People who make decisions of the NFL live in LA
and they listening to that radio and every one second
it's Kendrick Lamar. So they thinking that's all over America
ringing norf like that, and so they picked him. He's
(49:10):
the biggest guy for twenty twenty four. I love it
either way, right, And who's to say that he doesn't
bring out Little Wayne.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Who's to say they don't rock out like that? You
know what.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
The cash money or bring out masters, no limit soldiers
or something, have some aspect of the New Orleans because.
Speaker 6 (49:28):
Mea ax, I'm a big fan of New Orleans hippos
from day one.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
You know what I'm saying. They they helped this hip
hop evolve.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
The cash money, that no limit that you know they
you know, New Orleans always.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Been a shit in hip hop, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I mean they could have would you have felt better
they brought out the Neville Brothers if they brought up
with the Brandon Marcellis. But I'm just saying so, I mean, Harry, Conny, Julie,
their native God bless them.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Maybe they could have played.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
Now I would have respect that it. If Lil Wayne
was performing and the Neville Brothers are playing the music
behind them. That's inclusion, But to hear that, I'd rather
hear Kendrick Lamar all the Cash Money Crew.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
is also posted and you can access it to whichever
podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just
simply go back to club profile and I'll see you there.
Host
Shannon Sharpe
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