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Randy Moss calls out Tyreek. Mass said in an interview
with the South Florida Sun Sentinel, when ask where Tyreek
stacks up as the all time great receivers, He's nowhere
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at all time. Where he's at today, game, Tyreek is
probably top five. I put him top five. Oh Joe,
you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh man? Listen. I mean when we talk about all time.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
There's no reason to bring up the question about somebody
being all time when they're still playing the actual game.
And he has a lot of he is a lot
more time to go, but he is see his top five.
He was on a historic run. Obviously he had a
down season last night last year. Obviously we know why
because of the inconsistent he got eleven joke, because of
the inconsistent quarterback play at quarterback last last last season.
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But we have to realize, we talk about all the
time he has eleven thousand right now, but he's no.
When they're done, you know who will finished. Most of
the time players bodies start to break down, they start
to lose.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Speed, but none of that has happened to Tarreek.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And even if he does lose a step or two,
it's still a step or two fast and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
M I agree.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Look, from time to time we do this. We did
this with Tom and Peyton, whether they rank all time?
We did this with Aaron Donald and JJ Watt, Where
do they rank all time? Kind Of Reeves kind of
got that after that year that he had in two
thousand and nine, he had that historically great season, and
when he had one of the great cover seasons in
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NFL history, and.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So occasionally you'll get that.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't have a problem with mal said, because you're
talking about one hundred and five year history, and like
you said, he's still going. Now once his career is over,
we're gonna have to have this conversation see where he ranks,
because if I'm not mistaken, he has a Super Bowl ring,
He's a what seven eight.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Time Pro bowler, He's been an All Pro. He's on
the If I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Not mistaken, I think he's on the All Decade. He
might not be on the All Decade team. He might
I think he'll be on the All.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Decade team in the twenty twenties.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I don't know if he's on the All Decade team
or the twenty tens because he got.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
A late star start and saying oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But with that being said, I don't have a problem
with what Mas said because Mars is looking like, holdo,
how y'all just gonna have this man leap frog whole
bunch of people. Now, I know he's had, like you said,
Oh Joe, seven, he has what to seventeen hundred yard
receiving seasons. No other player has more more than one
of those. He has two, and you're right, he was
on a historic run. Looked like he was gonna get
two thousand. Called a hamstring injury, got a a an
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ankle injury.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I just think the thing is like, and that's why
it's tough.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's tough when guys that have the old jackets say
something because it's gonna it's gonna generate a buzz ojoe
because man, you heard Randy Moss say, and Randy is
one of those.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Historically all time great receivers. So it carried.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Then then some analysts that didn't play the game or
someone didn't play.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Look, I understand that's their opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Everybody has an opinion, but Randy Mass's opinion when he's
talking about a receiver, it carries more.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
With actually, and what he said is really not that
bad you think about it. Tyreek being top five right
now is a really good thing. Even with the down
season last year. Let's not let's not be food and
be caught up in the moment, you know, and the
fact that he had a down season. But there's nothing
wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him at all.
But what Mass said is fair. It's fair. I just
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don't like the fact that the question was even imposed
and asked to Randy Moss. In general, when Tyreek is
still played, that makes no sense to me at all.
That's just a I call it clickbait or creating unnecessary
conversations that shouldn't be had when the player is still
active anyway, that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Had you know if Tyron, let's just say Tyreek had
gotten an Offensive Player of the Year in the process.
Let's just say is he stays one more year o
JO and he gets two Super Bowls and he has
it off because see the thing is where we put
jj wattin darn' donald in there? What they got those
DPO wise, they got Rookie of the Years and so
they JJ had two He's the only guy to have
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two twenty sacks seasons. Aaron Donald's was on a historic run.
And so after like year six, year seven, man, where
you put a d at. I ain't just talking about defense.
I ain't talking about defensive lineman. I'm talking about defensive
player period. Where do you put jj Watt at? Because
jj wat I think it finished second one year for
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MVP when we hadn't had a defensive player win the
MVP since nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That was LT.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So you know we're looking at like with damn, and
I agree, it's just that what Mass said because when
I when I just saw the article, I'm like, well, damn,
that's harsh.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But you know, you know, then I read.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It, he's saying he's not a historically great currently but.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
He is at And of course, of course the article,
you know, the headline is going to draw you in and.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Click on it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But that's what you got to do. You gotta get
somebody too.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
If they said, if they just had a Moss interview
with South Sun Sentinel, ain't nobody taking that article. But
when they put ty Reek ain't all time great?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That I mean that, that's that's the game. That's that's
that's that's the sevenists of the media in order to
have as what we call clickbait to get to the
tune in and want to read what was actually said.
But in the sense, when you think about it, it's
not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing. There
there are so many receivers that came before week, you
know that laid that foundation for what he's able to
do now.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And when you think about all time, Grace.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
They have been some great ones on there have been there,
there have been some games that have come before me,
during your time, before your time.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So I think with.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Master sin Don Hudson got like ninety nine touchdown on
five hundred catches?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
How you get that that? How you get that touchdown?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Uh? And when they didn't, when they didn't throw the
ball like that, I mean, you got it. You got
a lot of great receivers.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You got laughs Gerrold obviously you got we we know
a lot of the main characters. We know Jerry, we
know t O, we know Randy Well. You know you
got Marvin Harrison, you got laugh Fish. I mean, there
are some greates. But that's not to say if Tyreek
get back on the path that he was on and
he has another two three years like that, who's the
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same when he's got fifteen sixteen thousand yards that we're
looking like, okay, well.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
We're gonna have to have that conversation, and we're gonna
have to have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
See, I.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Don't know, maybe maybe I'm just I mean, people say
I'm getting solved, but I've never had a problem giving
people credit.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I a't got no problem with that. I know, I
know me, but you don't say crost stop it.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You know, damn well, that man is better than you.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You ain't fooling nobody.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I mean, why was up defensive line to get up
there and say, but I'm just as good as Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Really, dude, man, I'm just as good as all tea
really dude.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's different. It's different. Listen. There's levels to everything you know,
and it's very smart.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It's very smart to understand the DNA and what your
parents bless you with, you know, and to understand that
nothing like.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
A certain like a certain individual. Oh cho.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I like to tell kids, if you get everything you
can out of your ability, you succeeded. You don't measure yourself.
And that's where a lot of people get in trouble
at because they measured themselves against someone else.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
We see this young lady, she measured herself where she.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Ain't got that body, or she doesn't have that hair,
she doesn't have that dress, or she doesn't have that
that uh what person, whatever the case may be. Guys,
when I ain't built like that, I can't run that fast,
I ain't got that car, I ain't got.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Bro I mentioned I messed me against me. You got to.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Once I got out of Glennville, me and my brother,
we helped get my grandmother out of that house.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
We are in success now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Anything that anything that happened after that, okay, we just
that's just now. Now you just adding care.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But it get crazy because when you think about society, right,
when you think about society, society compares everything.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's all about comparison.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And what people have to understand is, yeah, comparison is
the thief of joy at all times. But everyone everyone
it's doing something for someone else's validation. Always, well, they
had it on, so I'm gonna get it where if
they're if they're wearing it, that means that gives me
a certain look or certain certain type of status of
some sort. And is as much as we say, I'm
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my own person, I don't want to be like nobody else.
Everybody goes out and does exactly what everybody else is doing.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Everybody everybody's sheep, everybody's sheep.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But anytime you don't follow whatever the trend may be,
or you're a little different than what everybody else.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Is doing, Oh you weird, something's wrong with him? They
got everybody want to fit in.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
It.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Don't bother me, Oh Joe, I see these guys now,
and you know, I guess the thing now is guy's
painting the nails.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I ain'tbody mail apology. It ain't me. I don't care what.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Let me ask you a question, O Yo, can you
throw me a touchdown? Can you catch a touchdown? That's
what I care about. I didn't give it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I didn't look all I wanted to got to do
to bring it, ask and be on practice sometime, being
the meetings on time and.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
We have a game performed. Whatever you did that didn't
harm anybody.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
That, Yeah, I can't even talk about no pain. Hell
I was. I was doing all black this way back
and goddamn two thousand and five, two thousand and seven,
I had.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
All black male. You know, I was going through that
gothic stage. I went through a gothic stage.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I thought I was.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I thought, yeah, yeah, I would go. I thought I
was punk rocker. I had the blonde hair, the mouthful
of gold black man. I just ain't care, man, you know,
I just yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But now, anytime you do something that sixty sixty million
or one hundred million, everybody else don't do Ah, you weird,
Oh you nasty. But that's the thing now. But see
the thing, don't Joe. I've been I've been carrying across
body since two thousands. If you go back and you
can find pictures of shuter and have it one way
back on. Hold on now you mean it? Hold on,
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I got I got way more than you. Hold on,
let me show you my crossbody. I got one too,
Now you got one?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The ducase?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
What he what?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Chad? What has O Choe purchased?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh? Lord, have mercy?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Hey, I'm not saying that old Joe ain't got a
Old Joe ain't coming to some new found wealth, but
there is signs that he has.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm just saying I ain't. I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Many jobs he got. He had fifty eleven, maybe he
got sixty twelve. This man no would have got a chrome.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Oh lord, I got too.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, this this for my cigars. Don't
I keep my cigars in here when I'm when I'm traveling,
When I'm traveling, you hear it?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I got cross by, So you had to go get
a fifteen twenty dollars bag to put cigars in He
hard By as you heard what I say.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
How look, look, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh Joe, I mean, since you've known me, have you
ever seen me?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You listen, you you you.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
The funny thing about it is you carry cross party bags, right,
It's part of.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
The European culture. It's part of Uropean culture. And depending
on where you go, depending on where you go, everybody
has them.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And the people that everybody you go to Europe, that's
all you see.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The funny thing about it.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
The people that make fun of it are so centralized
and being in the States where they're not used to
seeing it, you know, and it hasn't been I don't know,
not not really informed.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It's just something that they're not used to seeing.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Because not very many people do it here in the States,
and those that do it's normally businessmen, those of a
certain status, and they carry it for a reason.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, but I mean a lot of the NBA, uh,
a lot of the NBA players NFL, I mean, because
a lot of those bags they're expensive, yeah, expensive.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I mean you get you.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I mean you see guys get carrying those those Knox
Man those bags are one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean, you're you'll never know because most people aren't
aren't aren't privy to that though, those those type of things,
you know, if it's not what everybody else is doing,
you know it's frowned upon or it's not cool.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yes, true, man, I wouldn't, oh Jo. I was one
of those guys. I used to be mad if I
ever got money. Ain't no way I'm gonna spend as
for a house, or I would spend buy for a car,
or I would do this for a watch until I
got the money.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So what's the whole?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What is the point of working your ass off and
not and not enjoy at least a body of the fruit,
a little bit from the tree that you help plant.
That makes that That doesn't make sense to me. I'm
not saying that everything that comes out you have to
get it, But shouldn't you enjoy yourself since you are
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the one, Because I promise you you might work your
ass off and leave one hundred million, And I guarantee
you people you you leave it to, I guarantee you
they li it. I guarantee you what you left them,
they won't leave Somebody yeah, yeah, listen, So I'm gonna
get some enjoyment. I you know, I'm gonna get some enjoyment.
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You know, I want my kids, and hopefully that the grandkids.
But I hope you know they they're not sitting around
being being waiters, waiting on me to kick over so
they can get some bread.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But but I never understood that. I never understood that.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
O Yoe.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But but oh Joe, you know we where we come from,
we didn't, we didn't. We didn't see nobody having no
Mercedes until I come on, hold on, boy, no, listen here.
Now that's that's a great story.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Now you see what that Jack can say on me
right there right they say Liberty Cities, Liberty City.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, oh you had a Jack boys, jack boy.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Let me tell you if if you listen to Rick
Ross music and you talk about the Booby the Booby Boys,
you listen to Trick Daddy and Trina, you know, I
didn't seen fifteen sixty year olds with Mercedes with don't Chevy's,
you know, supposed to be in school, but you know,
they doing their things. So I grew up seeing the
young fellas, and I always wanted it. I wanted a
Chevy so bad. You know, I wanted the glass hands,
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I wanted the ninety a box Chevy with the ninety
I wanted all that.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But I'm looking at little kids. Boy, you're a freshman.
What you're doing driving a bens? What you doing in
a ninety account? What do you?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
My grandma? That'll never be you.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'll tell you that that'll never be I'm in church
every day. Start with a WHI I was a church
every day.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Started with a Hey. If you know your grandma, you
going to church? O. Cho We both grew up with
our grandparents. You going to church.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I was a junior deacon. I was in the choir.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But but don't don't let don't let me have to
see what a friend we have in Jesus. Boy, let
me where I can leave it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I can lead.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We're gonna start the devotional service. Hey, hey, him number
for ninety two. Ask someone for a suitable tom amazing grace,
how sweet the south?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh yes, sir, Mary, party Bartie, and may gonna have
you in lible study. Have you acquire practice, then you
have like the junior decas and the honor. Please, but
see the thing o Joe. If you could see something
and see, it's easy to give you see it. Because
I think the best thing that ever happened to me
is that I had a brother that was three years older,
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and I saw he had it because but when I
was growing up, were growing up, we just had to dream.
All we have with aspirations. I saw Miami Advice and
that was the first time I saw I'm hearing about it.
I'm hearing them about of Ferrari, I'm seeing Rolex, I
see Vasachi, I see Lenny. I said, Oh, I got
to get that. I gotta get that, wasn't I mean,
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I gotta get that on you. So that's my success.
I measured my success by I've already exceeded basically, if
you just look at me from people from Glennville, I'll
be eln Musk to them, I'm Jeff Bezos to them.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
And the funny thing and I don't I don't mean
to pivot off topics, but still on topic. What I
don't like about today being a followers, allowing those that
you know are on the right path to do the
right thing, and allowing them allowing them to do the
wrong things.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Certain players not.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, you gotta pull them back to Noro.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That ain't you. There was so much structure and discipline
during our day. Yes, so think about what you just said.
You seeing all the things you want, right, I'm seeing
all the things I want. Even if I.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Wanted to move and do what they was doing, you know,
because Grandma can't see what I'm doing outside the house.
There was so much structure and discipline in the streets,
even if one or two we're not even just trying
to hang around.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Man, Man, if you don't get your from round here, man,
you yeah, this ain't you. This ain't you. Even if
I wanted to, they ain't having it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, They're like hey, they're like little sharp man.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You go. Hey, you going places? Man, you go into college. Hey, man,
I'm gonna see you on TV one day.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah. Absolutely, man. He kept me aligned with my mama
couldn't see.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Tyreek turned thirty one in March.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Tyreek is number seven on the active It's with eleven thousand,
ninety eight yards, but he lands him just forty two
all time. Tyreek got plenty of time. I saw him
working out. He looks fast, he looks twitchy. He's lost
weight because I remember I told you. I thought I
thought he got a little bit too muscle bound. Hey,
I thought he got a little bit too muscle bound.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Now he makes twist. Was so funny. Un watch him
in person. Obviously we see him on TV, we see
him on ESPN.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
But to watch that joke on you hear me up
closer in person, come off that goddamn line and get
out of break and then.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
In two steps. Now we ain't talking about no taking
no time to.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Get go on.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm talking about right now. I got to have it,
brick man. It was.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It was a joy.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It was a joy to see up closer in person,
man and the worst ethic and just oh man, dog,
it was beautiful. It was a beautiful sight to see.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
It is.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I mean, look, I hope he hope he gets it
together because he's on historic path. Today, ESPN released the
NFL rankings, voted on by coach A Scoutson executive. The
number one RADI receiver Jamar Chase, the number two RADI
receiver Justin Jefferson, the number three rated receiver Tyreek Hill
number four, CD Lamb number five, A J. Brown number six,
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I'm in raw Saint Brown number seven, elk Neighbors eight,
Nico Collins nine, Mike Evans ten.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Garrett Wilson. What did they get right? What did they
get wrong?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It's right, It's right one one through, I mean one
and two.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It is what it is. Even with the down year.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We need to understand how special Tyreek Hill is based
on what he's able.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, we're not taking any I mean, have one bad year.
I mean because theoretically, if you look at it, CD
had a down year. See he gotta end up getting
nicked and missing time. But CD is is a top
a top receiver.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Absolutely, Uh what.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I would have done obviously, I love what Nico Collins
did last year. I love him Elik Leak Neighbors did
last year. I would love to have Nike Mike Evans
after A. J.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I would love and giving him credit for the consistency
in which he's put up the numbers he's put up
over the years and always having a thousand yards and
being the heart and soul of that Tampa Bay Bucks defense.
I'm and roth obviously, tremendous offense, tremendous A J. Brown, tremendous.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Garrett Wilson. I like Garret Wilson, you know, had a
one hell of a rookie year.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Obviously, the quarterback carousel over in New York it's been
up and down, but he's still he's still put up
decent numbers. You know, he got paid, so he can
he can be happy and he can sit back and
do what he needs to do. Now with Justin Fields,
I'm looking for him to get back in that that
thirteen four fourteen hundred yard range and put up some tds.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
What would you change? Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm I'm just I'm just looking at some names. Pooka,
the Core.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'm I'm just I'm just putting some I'm just throwing
names out here and then see what what what we're
gonna do with them?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So if we start NFC, So we're going to NFC
the East.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Okay, they got neighbors, they got CD, they got a
j so they got four teams, they got three players,
they got a player off each team in that division.
So we go to the NFC North. So they got
two guys arm and Raw and they got Jefferson. Yeah,
I don't think Chicago have a player that should be
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in the top ten. I don't think uh who else
green Bay? Green Bay doesn't have anybody nor does Chicago. Yeah, okay, Chicago,
Green Bay No, okay. NFC South, we got Mike Evans.
Look I like Drake London, but I don't think he's
top ten yet on Joe.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
A few more years.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Consistency, Yeah, you know, it puts it puts him in
that conversation, actually him actually being the he is the
number one, but I mean it actually showing up every
single week on film on ESPN, it's always something number
five is doing.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
You know what I'm trying to say, because when you've
seen every week, it's something different. I haven't that time.
Haven't gotten that London yet. I'm sure he's capable of
doing it. They just haven't found it. Him and him
and Mike Pennick Jr. They're gonna they gonna create that magic.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, NFC South, you got Brian Thomas, you got Nico Collins.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Pittman is is growing, but he's not top ten Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Calvin, you know what, listen, Calvin, he's he's fringe. Top ten.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Now he's fringe belongs to that. We take away, we
take away that issue we had in Atlanta. We take
that away, and we have he's a player that is
can be con listen, then what he.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Does just don't ability ability to separate the route run
Because you know one thing, you guys from.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The put put him down, They're gonna sit it down
on yo Yo.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Absolutely AFC Pittsburgh got anybody top ten d K they left.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
The DK is not in there? Uh who else?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I put I put I look, we like I think
we like T.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But I don't think I don't think anybody thinks T
is a top ten percent too many even if you
even if you consider them one B I don't think
he's I don't think he's better than any of these
guys that we got better.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I put those players, the T Higgins, the T Higgins,
the DK, Metcalfs, Brian Toma Jr.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
All those dudes that are not in the top ten.
I put them right on that fringe, right.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You put them there in that next, that next, that
next might be low ten, but just good enough let's happen.
Those that are ten, if they're on office side, they
can come in and step in and still do one
hell of a job with the number one being hurt or.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Being pickens, Yeah, picks the flowers.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Oh yeah, hell when when when when when? From Tankdale.
When Tankdler is healthy, He's game changes when you the
right way.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
They didn't have Davante, they didn't have Jamison Williams, Jackson Smith. Nice,
that's another one, Davante. Whi's Dvante Smith or Adams Adams?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Still still yeah, I'm not sure what yea DeVante Adams
is in. Still probably he got to be.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
At least he got to at least a decade. He
got to be have at least a decade.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Don't one of the best, one of the best route
runners ever, bright ever ever? Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Uh, Davante Si.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Slim Reaper, slim Reaper. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I mean, look, once you get past that top five,
you can the next five you take a and you
won't be just a you got him.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Okay, Okay, that's.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
That's that's how it goes. And then obviously based on
based on who you ask, it always changes based on
preference because people always want to go for the player
that's a part of their team.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
That's it, right.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
We talked about this o JO, like when we had
the quarterbacks, You're like, okay, once you get past that
top five, you're like, okay, the next five, Like I mean,
because once you get past Mahomes, Okay, I like Burrow. Okay,
nah Man, I like Lamar Okay, I like Josh. That's okay,
you know what I'm saying. So basically two through five,
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two through four, you just throw it up and and like,
oh you know that that game we used to reach
in the bag and whatever you pull out. That's what
you guys what it is. Yeah, man, I'm reaching in
the Mahomes is already out in the bag.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I reached in there.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I pulled out Lamarrow. Okay, come on, Lamar, I reached
it there. Man, I got Josh Allen ain't like now now.
I want to put him back and try to see
somebody now him where you go?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I agree?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Who?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Ojo.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Robert Craft had a lot to say about Bill Belichick
since they ended their partnership. Is On and the head
coaches one of the greatest dynasties dynasties in sports history.
In January of twenty twenty four, and Kraft's latest comments
on Dudes Undudes Podcasts That's Julian Edelman and Gronk's podcast,
Bob said he mister Kraft said he took a big
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risk in nineteen ninety nine, when.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He lured coach Belichick away from a rival Jets.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Edelman asked Kraft what was his best decision he made
since purchasing the Patriots. Kraft said, well, one that I
got questioned the most was nineteen ninety nine. I gave
the number one He gave a first round draft pick.
That's not the number one overall pick. He gave a
first round draft pick in order to select coach Belichick,
who had only won a little over forty percent of
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his game. Then to get him out. Thinking that coach
Belichick to come to the Patriots in nineteen ninety nine
was big risk. I got hammered by the Boston media,
but he was with us for twenty four years and
we did okay today. Coach Belichick said, the risk was
taken on the other side. As I told Robert multiple
times through the years, I took a big risk by
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taking the New England Patriots head coaching job. I already
had an opportunity to be a head coach in the
New York Jets, but the ownership situation was unstable. Belichick
went on to say he was warned by multiple previous
Patriot coaches and other NFL organizations that taking the Patriot's.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Job were going to come with many internal obstacles.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I mean as much SI two things can be true
kinda kind of.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But here's the thing. Coach Belichick was right. Coach Belichick
had a job. Coach Belichick took a huge risk because
he left the situation for the uncertainty. And he listed
all the things. They were ten million dollars over the
cap a lot of people. Maybe I don't know his
meant to. The guy that gave him a start and
he looked up to was Coach Barcels. Coach Barcells left
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and became the Jets head coach, brought coach Belichick with him,
and then Coach Belichick was I guess the coaching waity.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Me.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I think I'm different on Joe. I've never had a
problem FS one and Skip took a chance on me
because no professional athlete had done what I did, what did,
what I was doing, what I was about to do,
which was sent across from a journalist and debate topics
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after topics, football, basketball, track and field, golf, tennis. Social
issues didn't matter. Oh Joe, we'll get back to that
right now. We got a very special guest joining us.
He attended your receiver works y'all, Jaden, Red Green Bay
Packers Wide receiver Jade, And.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
How you doing, bro, Jay? What's up? What ma ain't nothing?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Man?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Man?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I'm right here, man, one foot in front of the other,
you know, making it do what to do?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Let me get your take on this, Jaden. What were
some of the things that you learned at this workshop
that you didn't know going into it?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
That was like one of the biggest things I took
from it, like in the confidence and the swagger that
everybody had out there. You know, I just feel like
I need a little more greediness and dogs in my dings,
you know, and I feel like I'll beat some nice
out there.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Ain't nothing wrong with that. You gotta believe you the
badest more fall on the planet, especially confidence. And look,
if you don't have that as a wide receiver, bro,
you ain't got nothing. Because I believe that guy that
you're going across from he got it.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Oh yeah for some yes, sir, what about some of
the things.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Because you know, when I talked, when I used to
talk to guys, I was like, look, you want to
be you want to play half a man? You never
let want a guy put his put both put the
stop side up in your chats. Half a man, Hey,
you ain't getting both hands on me. You might get one,
and I'm gonna break it. As soon as you thinking
out that, I'm gonna try to break the arm.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, that that far gotta break.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
So you know that we talked about it. We talked
about a little bit a little bit of all that too. Man,
every every route you know, how to how to beat,
how to beat man, how to beat you know, different
different coverages, and and what to do, understand understanding leverage,
how to get open, how to set people up, happening,
how to manipulate, you know, and transitioning and getting in
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out of stuff. Obviously was it was only two days.
There was only so much that we could do. But
I want to give you know, the young bulls, even
with them already having success, I want to give them
enough information to be able to take one thing, just
take one thing from it that you can add to
your game and go back and know that you've improved
in some area, whatever it may be. And the funny
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thing about it that the things that they're going to
improve on these players that happen to show up in Clue,
including Jay the things that they're going to improve on
a thing that the naked eye can't see. People watching
on TV, you're not even able to see it. Sometimes
the coaches might not be able to see it. But
I want them to be able to go back and
make everyone job around them easier. Hell, Jayden, go back
and add them to us. Arsenal, goddamn coach, look at well, shit,
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this is something else. This opens up the playbook because
now what I thought he couldn't do was the fuck shit.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Now he can.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
But again, when it comes to the NFL, when it
comes to players in general, and Jadas, I'm not talking
about you in general.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You know what what coaches have to do.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Coaches sometimes have to hide players weaknesses. So to me,
that always limits a playbook and what they're able to do,
what I can do, what I can do with it exactly.
So I want them to continue to come despite it
looking good. On Sunday is at one o'clock. Let's come here,
Let's work on some things that are weaknesses that nobody
else can see. Let's make our weaknesses our strengths so
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there are no holes in your game at all.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So when you do go back.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
It makes everybody else jobbing run easy, especially office of
coordinator and you goddamn your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
J let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I don't know if you know this, but at one
point in time, I was a big slow wide receiver
that I ate and lifted my way down to a
three point stance and I ended up playing moving the
tight end. But the thing that I did at the
tight end position is that I ran routes. But I
was always thinking about the fourth quarter. So although he
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might like, oh, man, yeah, I deed you up on.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That one, No you didn't.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'm just sitting your ass up or somebody I got
in the fourth quarter when I need it, because I
gotta keep something, you know, I got to keep a
little cash on me. Don't never leave home without some
cash because everybody don't take credit card, Everybody don't take
American Express because they don't want to pay that three percent.
Always leave home with a look cash on you if
it ain't no but aledge on your twitters. But I'm
gonna keep some cash on me because come fourth quarter,
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when you covered that seventh route that you think that
you was up underneath, you ran to the outside like yeah,
I got that.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Now I'm gonna run that basic cross on your ass?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah? Is that?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
How is that?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
How you think?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Do you think about like when I'm running the route
in the first quarter? Yeah, you know, sitting your ass
up for the third.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
And fourth, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
You definitely can't pull everything out of two box at once,
like you said, Man, you gotta keep a little cash,
but you're gonna eat it fus. So you know what
I mean, It's different levelges like y'all were saying, it's
different leverages, different coverages you gonna see. So you know,
it's a lot of different techniques you gotta use on
different routes and looks that you're gonna get. So I
wan one hundred percent agree with that for sure. Like
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sometimes you gotta save it to a little later, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I had a question do you have Do you have
the freedom?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
You know, obviously you're going you're going to see your
third year, right, you're going to see your third year, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Over there.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
As far as when it comes to the passive game,
do they allow you now that you're going into your
third year, do they give you a little freedom to
play with your split sometimes because sometimes the plays and
the routes that you run, they become repetitive. And obviously
with the you know, the defenders obviously they study in film.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
They know what.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Hell if you go plus two, I already know what
he's doing. Is the balls on the left half and
the balls in the right half, and he's inside edge.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I know what's coming.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Are you allowed to play with your split a little
bit as long as you end up in the same
place every time?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Yeah, going into your three for shure, you know, just
understanding the playbook and all that, the games slowing down
for me, so you know, that's giving them more confidence
in me to know, you know, do stuff like that.
You know, move a step out from the half, you
know what I'm saying. Whatever, they maybe one step out
from the spl my feet, you know that. So you
know all that kind of stuff. You know that stuff
make a difference. But when you got confidence in the
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play you play fast. You can just play fast for sure.
They definitely, you know, give me a little more freedom
to do stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Man, what you're Early in my career, I would I
would I would line up wrong?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Ain't Sharon get over here? Did what I get. He
don't even know what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, I'm about to you think I will know what
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I'm glass to think that, But don't you I know,
I was supposed to be on the rister right hand
the formation I go to the left.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
They're like, hey, eighty four eighty four.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm like, oh, yeah, my bad. He don't even know
what he got.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
He don't even a don't worried about him.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Yeah, I'm gone right barbecue exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
But let me ask you. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
John didn't have a problem because you know, in practice,
I like to try different things. Oh Joe, he says,
I don't care what you do. You can go to
the bathroom, you can go, or the milkshake, you can
do whatever. But with my backfoot hit as long as
you were you're supposed to be. I don't give a
damn about all that other stuff.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Exactly. Play fast, you know what I'm saying. Play fast
he gets the wh you need to get.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Because a lot of times, you know, like, hey, just
run straight straight, give him a nah breakout, give him
a nad I break in.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh you know, run down there?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
No, come on, man, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Listen, speak guy's wife's tattoo.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I hate coach.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I hate coaches too when it comes to exit and
nose and the routers drawn a certain way on on
on paper, and they expect the route to happen the
exact same way it is drawing up on paper. That's
not the game of football. That's not the game of all.
That's another reason why I was I was happy. You know,
the young bulls showed up because there's a hundred different
ways the won one route. There's a hundred different ways
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to run one route and still stay within the time
and of the offense. Any Time you get that many
great players to get in one spot and they all
win the same route, there's always something you can steal
from somebody else.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
There's always something you can steal.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
From somebody else. You know, a jade. I had a
smart mind, so we we bet, hey, they be donna
draw something up.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
And I've been on rent it a whole different way,
and then like eighty four, that's not the way we
drew it up, I say, But the way y'all drew
it up and didn't move.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
I moved and he moved on.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
So that's why I ran the way I ran it,
and that's why something on that paper that y'all had
it on. But I like the fact if the coach
will give you lead way, he has to understand. You
got to realize I'm doing this in real time. I
understand what we saw on tape.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
But what we saw on.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Tape and what that joker just did on this route
wasn't what we saw on tape. So I had to
go accordingly.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, we ain't robots.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I think sometimes at times officer coordinators, obviously speaking from
an offensive perspective, they get they get caught in their
ego and one of the things that look exactly like
their scheme, exactly like the way they drew it up.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Now listen where they drew it up.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh, Yoe, you know what I'm saying, Oh Joe, you
drawing up? If I build a house, bro I want
you ain't nothing wrong with this design.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
But sometimes you got you gotta change it up a
little bit, you know, because yes, yes you got Sometimes
sometimes they don't like it. Man, Sometimes.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
You feel me, Grandma, Grandma mca cheese ain't gonna taste
like Auntie mca cheese.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
It's gonna be a little different, you see.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, but don't do too much because you know
right now, Jay, they they had mussarella, they add in cheddar,
they adding pepper jackets.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
They had for five man, I got this seven cheese mcachee. Nah,
give me one. Give me the channe. That's all I want.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
The channel cheese is okay. I don't want the seven
layer mc and cheese. Sometimes we just now sometimes people
can get two, you know, l Joe to add them
grapes and pecans to the chelle the potato salad. You
done messed up a great dish. This was gonna be
a great dish and you emped it up.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Uh. The rankers came out today, Jaden uh. The top
ten receivers is voted on by coach of Scouts and executives.
Jamar Chase was one, Jefferson was two, Tyreek with three,
CD was four. A. J. Brown was five, Arman Ross
Saint Brown was sick. Elik Neighbors with seven, Nico Collins eight,
Mike Evans nine, Garrett Wilson's ten. You like this this
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list and are we gonna see next year in the
twenty twenty six rankings? Are we gonna see Jade Reid
in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Hey, I love the list. Man. You know, I don't
make the rules, so you know that's what's on the list.
And you know stats speak for itself. You feel me.
Those guys, you know, got a great resume, and that's
what I'm working for every day. You feel me. That's
why I'm at the workshop.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
You feel me trying to learn from guys like that
to put that into my twolbox and you know, make
myself a great receiver.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
That I know I can be.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
So you know that's just motivation.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Man. Every day, you know, just remembering that, you know
kind of stuff, and you know, just going day to
day in day out, just working.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Do you watch other guys?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Do you mean like when you when you watching take
do you do you watch that you watch a chase
or do you watch it jail or do you obviously
run a different animal because Tyree running.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Like yeah, yeah, he like lighting.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
But you know it's it's stuff you can take from
everybody though. You know, I watch everybody. I watched all
I even watch the younger guys. You feel me like,
you know Brian Thomas, you know Eliite Neighbors, you know
those guys nice. You know, it's it's always something you
can take from somebody else, you know. Uh so, yeah,
of course I watched everybody take you know. I watched
Dan Tavian Wick see on my team and we got
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one of the best release packages that I've ever seen, exactly.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
So you feel me.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
I watch everybody in our room, you know, in our
room because the league, whatever it may be, You feel me.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Like you can learn from you ever.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I mean, one of the things I love to do
is I love put your back up with you looking
at me. Oh yeah, I love.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I love the bottom bottom of quarterback. I love the
bottom of quarterback coming out of the huddle to let
him know I want the ball. Do you ever do
you you ever say anything that did Jay love? Or
you just let let the players just happening on their
own organically.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
I ain't really been doing it the past three years,
but from college, from from youth league to college, I
did it a lot. Yes, one thing I could do better?
You feel me just speaking up? You feel me like,
yeah more than yeah, hey look at me on this
just me right now?
Speaker 5 (42:01):
You feel me? So I could I could be better
on that in the league. I ain't get that much
in the league, coming to the league.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I've done it, and you can do it.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
You can do it a little bit as long as
as long as this is not distracting, not not distracting
to the play calling because of quarterback. You know, the
quarterback coming to the line. He already got a whole
lot to worry about. He got to worry about calls,
making calls, doing that.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Well, if he just throw the ball to me, he
ain't got you to worry about.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
You could like it. I like it.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
But look, there have been some chatter about your future.
You know, you got your Rosenhouse And it was a
reporter that he met with the Packers, like, hey, y'all
need to break my man off that he wants to
be here, but he wants to be compensated. Uh, what
can what can the Packer fans expect dout of Jaydon
Reed this year and beyond the future in Green Bay?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Man?
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Just you know, I'm always gonna work man. At the
end of the day, you know, I had some drops.
That was the talk of last year for me, so
you know I approved of that. I went and invested
in the Judge machines right there in my garage. I've
been catching on it every day, so you know, decrease
on that maybe I would have hit a thousand yards.
You feel what I'm saying. Uh so, really it's me
versus me. At the end of the day, you know
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what I'm saying. I gotta go out there. I gotta perform.
You know it ain't on nobody else. You feel me
besides my teammates, you know, the guys in the program.
But at the end of the day, I gotta do
my part. I gotta You know, you can't hide it.
If you ain't working, It's gonna show. So you know
that's one thing for show.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
I'm gonna work and I'm gonna compete, and I ain't
seting nobody. So you feel me.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
I'm just gonna go out there and do what I do.
At the end of the day, i'ma let the rest
take care of itself. You feel me, I don't. I
don't like to do much talking. You feel me, I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I don't really talking, but I feel like you gotta
talk to field five.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
Yeah, I feel like I need a little more five.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah I needed.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
Oh you feel me more Swagen, more confidence. But yeah,
I'll be too I've been humbled for too long.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
It ain't give me what.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
You Definitely, as a matter of fact, if you come
and be today, you're gonna be on the waiver while
on Monday. Hey, and guess what, I'm gonna give it
to him. You them two right there, they gonna get
it the first half. You gonna get it the second half.
So you don't feel left out. You gotta talk praying
to him.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
I'm on all that, all that he once once you
get once you get in the groove, like that first game,
once you get in the groove and you find yourself cooking.
But once that confidence cooking and you get you catch
a rhythm and catch fired with with Ja, with Jay Love. Well,
just let just just let everything, Let everything take care
of itself.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
That's it. Now.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Just know when you're talking, Jane, they're gonna they're gonna
be looking to take cheap shots at you. You're gonna
keep your head on the swivel. But you know what,
in the game of football, I can get your ass
back and make it look like a block.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
I know.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
That's why I'm gonna get up and line that up.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
That's what I'm talking about. It At some point long
as you get up, when it's.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
All saying done, how how does how does Jaden want
to be remembered as a wide receiver? Hopefully you spend
another ten years in Green Bay. But if you move on,
what do you what do you want your resume? When
when we said that, what it's all saying done? Oh
your resume? Six time pro bowler, all pro led, the
releague led AFC receiving you know, X, Y and Z
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my number whatever they are ahead?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
So what what?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
How did you tell James's story ship?
Speaker 6 (45:35):
I really just want to be legendary. I want to
be able to you feel me. I want to have
generations behind it. You feel me like when my son
come out.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
You feel me.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I want motherfuckers to know that's his son, you see,
like motherfucker to know that he really did that ship
at a high level. You feel me like how it
was supposed.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
To be done.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
So you feel me at the end of the day.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
I know a competitive I feel like I'm the most
competitive motherfucker on the planet.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
You feel me.
Speaker 6 (46:02):
I don't care who it is. I'm gonna go one
hundred percent and I'm gonna try to do it. Better
than the next person. So you know, I just want
to be remembered as a legend and this shit. So
you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm doing this shit
for my pops.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
He's not here with me no more. He passed twenty fifteen.
He was at every game. You feel me. He the
reason I'm doing this year. So if I stop right now,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
I ain't accomplished nothing because you know he's He's here
for me to live out and do it at the
highest level.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
So that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Wow, well, thanks for coming back and sharing the story.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Congratulations on going to the wide receiver workout, best of
luck this year.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Hey, I can't think of a better time to have
a great season.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
This contract year on No, you know they get you
one hundred for about thirteen fourteen hundred yards about fourteen
touchdown and tell him.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Break breaking great break thirty three. So making make up,
make the money right money out of sight call.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
No yeah A, that's it.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
By congratulations, stay healthy this year, have a great season,
and when you get some time, come back and talk
to us again.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I appreciate it, work so appreciate all love yo.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
So Yep, love O Joe.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
We're gonna get back into this. Mister Craft and coach Belichick. Look,
it's it's.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I think we look, we all have human We're all human,
and we all have emotions.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
You get fired with somebody terminates you from a job,
it leaves a nasty taste in your mouth. Especially and
coach Belichick was there for twenty four years. You're talking
about the guy that went to what thirteen AMC Championship games?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
He won ten of of what?
Speaker 5 (47:41):
What?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
He what?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Ten?
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Hoigh a many one that was six Super Bowls, X,
Y and Z. Mister Craft says, I took a chance
on the guy because I got him out of the
situation that he was in a guy that he only
won forty percent of his game as a head coach.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Both guys took a chance.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Coach Belichick took a chance of leaving because he had
a coaching job.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
And he left for a guy.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
And I'm sure Coach Parcells said, you know, man, he
met him too much. He ain't never ow no football team.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
I think Coach Parcells famous line, if you want someone
to do the cooking, you should at least let him
shop for the grocery.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
I think that was Coach Parcells. I'm paying a phrasing.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Coach Belichick make they say Coach Belichick is saying, you
try to make it seem like I was a nobody.
I did diagram one of the greatest defenses and shut
down one of the greatest offenses ever in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I did. Look.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, I understand we didn't play well and I didn't
have an overall record, but if you go like and
look at Cleveland and the situation that we got handed
to us, I thought I did a pretty good job.
I don't know why, because it's still fresh. Because when
you coach your thing now you have that level of
success and and and and the ball say yeah, yeah, yeah,
(49:06):
we good. We appreciate everything you've done. But were good.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Hey, listen, every every everything has an expiration date on
every everything. Everything in life, no matter how great it
may be, no matter how good it goes on, everything
in life has an expiration date.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
It does. And they had a great run. They had
a historic run.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
One of the if you think about it, before Belichick
got to New England, how was that franchise?
Speaker 1 (49:36):
They went to the Super Bowl in eighty five they
got beat by the Bears I think ten. And then
they went in ninety six and they got by the
Packers by two touchdown, thirty five.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
To twenty one.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
But in between they were they were they were good, good, good.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
So obviously I think it was it was everything in
life is a gamble on everything is life is a gamble.
Craft took one, and Bill Belachick took one.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Obviously, Drew bless he took it.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
He took a chance on body.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Absolutely listen, Drew Bledsoe was a quarterback. And god, behold,
you found fifth I mean fifth round pick but what
round was buried?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Six?
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Six?
Speaker 4 (50:12):
Tom Ron pick one and nine? Just so happened, mo
Wills Hits Drew Bledsoe. And after that, Lewis mo Lewis history,
history is made, and and and look what Look what
came about based on the chances that each person took.
So everybody, everybody involved took a chance. They did.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I just think to think, look, oh, Joe, like I said, skipping,
and this one took a chance on me. Uh, Coach
Davis took a chance on me. But if it was
a damn good chance, He's like, yeah, I know, this
got prop forty eight.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
But he better than anything we got here.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
But that's still a chance because he didn't have to
The Broncos, damn sure took a chance. Now it wasn't
a whole lot. I can see if they drafted me
in the first two or three rounds, that's a chance.
But you know what, I give them the benefit of
they took me in the self round one night.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
You talked about chances, Well, hell, the Bangles, they really
took a chance. And if it wasn't for me having
the Steelers staff at the Senior Bowl, well, Barbara Kowski
stood on the table for me after watching me, that
was a week and mobile how long is a week?
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, after watching me.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
For a week straight despite all the red flag Oh
you talk about red flags, I went to I went
seventy six schools in an eight year span. Oh no,
we're not drafted. That not that character issues, man, Listen.
But when it came to playing the game.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Of football, Barbara Calki understood what we were good, what
we were going to get. And then it listened. The
Bangle took a chance on me and the rest.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Was history and and and you rewarded that. And so
if the Bronco.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
If somebody from the Broncos loed Huggins, I don't think
he's around now. John beat was in that room. Coach
Reeves rest and soul. Like I said, Coach Reeves, he
drafted me, but he forgot to cut me. If they
want to say we took a chance on Shannon, I
ain't got no problem with that. If Skip and whomever
Jamie Horowitz say we took a chance on Shannon, they did.
But now if they took a chance on me, and
(52:27):
I don't if I don't plan out you see, you see,
everybody gets credit.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Everybody wants credit when it goes well.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
But when it goes bad, don't nobody say, well, you
selected such and such and it didn't turn out well.
They just want to take the credit for when things
go good. I'm cool with that. I'm good. I know
what I'm capable of doing. All I wanted was an opportunity.
It's kind of like a poker. They say, if you
got a handle a chair, you got a chance. You
got cars in a chair, you got a chance. Well,
if I got a helmet and show the paths and clacks,
(52:56):
I got a chance. That's all I wanted was an opportunity.
I so whomever gets to Yoe, you can remember, you
can be really good. We can be really good as
long as we don't care who gets the credit. Sometimes
you see again you see suddenly who get the credit? O, Yo,
you see you see that.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I took a chance.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I took a chance.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
That's crazy without even without even know what they doing it.
Coach Belichick, I get it. It's tough on yo, when
you have that level of success and all of a
sudden they want to move in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
It's tough. Test absolutely long that kind of yes, that long.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
With that kind in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
And I and hopefully I got, you know, another at
least I like to think I got at least another
fifteen to twenty five trips around the sun summers. You know,
I just have fifty Say I got fifty seven summers
under my belt. Maybe get me fifteen twenty five more.
But I don't believe we're gonna see what we saw
from the Patriots. I don't believe we're gonna see that
repeat something like that. No, yeah, got in my lifetime. Now,
(54:01):
maybe somebody, you know, maybe somebody in twenty one and
twenty one, like we we're what we're twenty twenty five,
so maybe twenty seventy five, twenty one hundred, you think
we'll see it again, But in the next decade two decades,
absolutely no.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Absolutely, the only person right now combination of coaching player
that can might have a chance. But I don't think
they will come close to it unless they just go
on some unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
Historic run for the next what six, seven, eight, nine years.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
Is my home yeahs and brother Andy Reid, Andy, But
come on, now, every every team is getting better, every
other team is also.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
They absolutely are.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Yeah, But I just think, I just think anything that coach,
anything that mister Kraft says, Coach Belichick is probably gonna
take issue to it.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I'm not terms. I'm surprised to end on good terms.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
Hell Ah, Coach Belichick is looking at it like it's
not like college coaches like Coach k got to walk
out on his own terms, Coach Summit got to walk
out on her own terms, Coach Smith got to work
out on his walk.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
Out on his own term.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Coach wouldn't you know coach or Geno g G As
long as Geno don't don't do anything crazy, Gino's gonna
be he be if he wants to be there fifty years,
he'll be there fifty years. Coach Belichick was looking at
it like that, and I don't know. I mean, Coach Landry,
they showed her the door, you know, so it happens.
(55:39):
You got to in pro sports is win? I know, yes,
I know.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
We compensated you for those wins. You're making whatever he
was making.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Reports say ten, fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Man, I don't know. I don't even care.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
It's like, we just don't believe you're gonna win moving forward.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
That sucks.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
I can't pay you moving forward based on what you've
done in the past. That's that's why guys get paid.
Jamar Chase is not making forty million dollars because of
what he's done. He's making forty million dollars for what
they believe he can do. They believe Jamar Chase is
gonna give him. He might not win the Triple Crown,
but we believe Jamar Chase is gonna be the one
(56:20):
or two, a top two to three receiver for the
next for the Force of the future. So we're gonna
compensate him for that because they paid him for They
paid him for that. I mean, he got a he's
the top five pick, he got nice signing bonus. Jamar
Chase made good money the Browns and and Katie said, hey, Jamorrow,
we but we're gonna pay you this because in twenty
(56:41):
five to twenty nine, we don't believe they're gonna be
any drop baff and we're gonna compensate you for that.
So Coach Belichick, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
Hey, all all good things must come to an end.
Speaker 4 (56:58):
That that that is, that is that absolutely visual representation
of such of a quote that's lived for a very
long time, and that very there are other many examples
during my lifetime of things that were great that also
came to an end.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
So yeah, for sure, all I mean yeah, and normally
you know they started with they got to let go Tom,
but they had I believe they had squeezed all the juice.
Tom was gonna. Tom was gonna still put up numbers,
but with that roster, they weren't getting back and winning
(57:34):
the Super Bowl again. He went, Tom went to the
perfect place. It was late, it was laid, it was
laid out for him.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
All they needed. All they needed was a court. They
need a quarterback. That is it.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Think about think about it. Think about this o.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Joe James threw for over five thousand yards with fifty
fifty three hundred yards, thirty touchdowns, thirty touchdowns thirty three
thirty thirty touchdown, thirty three touchdown, thirty pick.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
So just think and they won like nine games.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
Just imagine if he throws half then in the playoffs, well,
Tom Brady is never gonna throw thirty inceptions game.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
Tom Braid you might have to put two three years
together to get that.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
Many interceptions out of him.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
So, you know all they had to have somebody to
do to take care of the football. And you know,
a you get hot at the right time.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
Exact exactly what happened.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
They got hotted, they got the right time, which is
what the Giants used to always do with Eli manning
nine and seven, making the playoffs and going a run.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Jane Daniel had a wildly successful first season, leading his
team to the NFC Championship Game and winning ap Offensive
Rookie of the Year. Giving JD's work ethic, veteran teammate
Zach Ertz is particularly confident that the quarterback will continue
to progress in year two. From the outside looking and
you could say he had a phenomenal year, but in
the back of his mind he said, I could be
(59:04):
better this year. And it's crazy going into his second
year how good he was last year. But he's going
to have that mentality for hopefully the next fifteen year.
He has such high confidence in himself because he wants
to be great. That's really really resonates with the rest
of the guys on the field and the team he's with.
Speaker 2 (59:25):
Commanders. Also, Oh, they signed von Miller.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Where was this?
Speaker 2 (59:30):
The Commanders just signed von Miller? What do you believe
are the Commanders seal?
Speaker 4 (59:36):
I mean, listen, they made it to the NFC Championship
last year. They made it to the NFC Championship last
year with a Rickey quarterback. That changed that franchise around
a Riogd quarterback that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Afraid of the big stage. Hell, you just played at LSU.
Speaker 4 (59:50):
You just played at LSU and had success, So coming
over there to DC, coming to the Commanders, the stage
is not too big for you. And that's exactly how
you played all She's long now. The one thing they
alway talk about the sophomore slump. I don't think they're
going to be a sophomore slump because what they have
done is they've they've gotten better offensively. They bought in
Deebo Samuels, they got they got got brother Bedebo. Defensively,
(01:00:11):
obviously defensive it wasn't that bad. They weren't, you know,
they wonder the goddamn still curtain or nothing like that.
But you got vond brother in. Despite what people may say,
it's a great addition for them. Defensively, he can still
he still has the motive, he can still go. But
I don't think that the sophomore slump doesn't come from
a quarterback not doing well. It comes from film already
(01:00:32):
being out there on them. So now film there's film
on you. So people know how to prepare, they know
how to stop you, you know how to scheme for you.
So now you have to find other ways to win
up here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
And that that's all.
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
It comes down to, being consistent when other teams know
what exactly was coming, being able to process process that
information a little bit faster than you did last year.
Non win, to use your legs, no one when to
use your arm, you know, I just it's it's so
many other factors I'm sure he's matured more.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
He knows a playbook even better, so he can play freely.
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
You don't have to think as much. You don't have
time to think, really, honestly, not at that position. So
I think they I think the commands are gonna be
all right. They're gonna be fine. They dition the debo.
Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Hell, Terry McLaurin is.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
It's it's they're gonna make him happy. He's gonna get paid.
He's gonna get paid because you need that number one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You need that number one boy. He that Gary Wilson.
They were not they were not wanted. They didn't want
that one.
Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
But listen, even if they didn't pay Gary Wilson, you
got to do right by scary Terry.
Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
You gotta do right by what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
But that's that's the bottom. Now with Joe, the bottom
is thirty million. That's the far.
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Oh, they got it, and they gonna give it to him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
He's all I want a bed.
Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
I ain't trying to see you on the.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
That's thirty two.
Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
They're gonna give it to They got to because you
know what's gonna happen the same thing they did with Chase.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
What's that you know number nine went up there and say, okay,
let's get it together now. Let's let's let's get it
together now.
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
So at some point with Jane Damia's understanding when it
came to putting the ball in the air, I know
there's one target that can count on.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I know what Devo's done in the past. He's on
a new team.
Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
But I need my number one target. I don't want
to play this game. I need my number one target.
I need my number one target with a free, clear
mind coming into training camp, not think about nothing else,
just being able to focus on ball and get ready
for that NFC East Yeah, n C East right, Yeah,
NCAST Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Cam Hayward says TJ. Watt needs to get paid finish
his career as a one helmet guy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
TJ. Watt does not have a contract extension yet.
Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Talks are dragging.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Out, but Wat is expected to get the deal that
would top the forty million annual average of Miles Garrett.
Teammate Cam Hayward waited in on Watch situation, Man, that's
my brother. I want that dude to get paid what
he deserves. That dude is one of the most fierce,
best players in our league, and he's been respected throughout
the league. We've created a lot of havoc together. I
just want to see the guy continue to be a
(01:03:18):
Pittsburgh Steeler and be a one helmet guy. When asked
about the potential trade, Hayward said, I'm going to going
up to steel Steelers jeb Omar Kahan and I'm telling
him that's not happening. If they're even trade that gets
up there, I don't think it helps our team to
trade a guy like that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Hey, listen, let me tell you something. It's scary too.
And this is coming from someone that loves the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
If I was to cut myself right now, it's gonna
be it's gonna bleed black and orange if they pay TJ.
Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Watt. You got Cam Hayward, God damn it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
You got Jalen Ramsey, you got Darius Slay, you got
Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
You got brother Queen's in the mid man. Come on, man,
come on man.
Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
A nasty, nasty defense to me, which I think, which
I think depending on how DK and Aaron Rodgers and
Calvin ass to the third, depending on how they messed.
The identity has now shifted back to the Steelers not
being the offensive team. Their identity is now back. They
got damn defense like it was back in the two thousands. Now,
(01:04:28):
I'm just basing that based off the names that are
on there. You still got to play with continuity and
the players one he one bad, one sound.
Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
But based on what you have, it should look like that.
It should every all the names look good on base.
But if they signed t J.
Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Watt, you got cam, then you got that secondary everybody
just name man.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Come on now, yeah, I think what's causing them Pauls.
Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
I think is his age.
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
You know, giving a guy forty plus making him the
highest paid when he's in his thirties. That's normally reserved
for quarterbacks. Just say they looked at TJ. Is like okay.
Over the last two to three games, there was a
dropping production. Was that were you nicked?
Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Was that age?
Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
With that attrition? We don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
They let it come down to the to the the
final hours. They everybody's going to camp here in the
next in the next three to five days.
Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Could report on the nineteenth and mostly everybody else reports
the twenty second and the twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Yeah, where you think you're gonna report? The camp.
Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Man they make it so caught, Oh Joe, they make
it so caught. Prehebitive.
Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Now man, they be slapping the five one hundred fifty
thousand man. Listen, man, I mean if you meant I mean,
and now they don't. They won't let you forgive them
because you don't I can pay on yo, you miss Camp.
They signed the contract team forgive the fines. Come on
in now, not now, so excuse me, TJ saying, Okay,
(01:06:10):
whatever fires like Church, y'all have to put that in
the check because I don't mind giving y'all a million dollar.
But y'all go yay, y'all gonna pay me forty forty
forty and a half.
Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
What hell if Camp getting ready to start to Uh,
sticks ain't got paid over there with the Cowboys yet either.
Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Nope, he already said he gonna get exactly what he works,
what he wants to be the highest paid he gonna
be now, Jared Jared Jerry's tried to go behind his
back and tried to do a handshake deal Michael. No,
but Michael's hired athletes first, David Buoguletta.
Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
L waiting for for TJ to sign before they do.
Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
What not No, but I think the thing is he's
looking at Look the number is forty. That's the number.
Miles Garrett got forty. So we're gonna be north for
forty because look at think about it. Look at Patrick's
otaan he signed. He was the highest TeV in twenty
four million in three months. It's the thirty now. So
(01:07:09):
you realize when you sign a contract, you not finna
be the highest paid for long.
Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
So I don't know what's the next position that's gonna
come up that's gonna command, that kind that's gonna command. Okay,
he's the highest paid, but give it a little time.
Somebody gonna be right behind you.
Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
So you have it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
You'll have it for a week, a month, maybe a year.
If you're lucky, you'll get it for a year. But
other than that, somebody coming to take that top mantle. Hey,
I'm good. I'm good. I can't worry. I can't worry
about some what somebody else got. At this point in time, Ojo,
this is what they gave me, what I asked for.
I can't be mad if somebody comes behind me, oh Joe,
(01:07:52):
and get more than what I got. I got exactly
what I asked for? You, right, you asked for forty
one million, They give you forty one million. Now a
year later, somebody come get forty two five.
Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Why you mad?
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
You got what you asked?
Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
What the market was at the time, Oh, the market
was at the time. I'm excited. I'm assuming I'm assuming it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
What hell that means? Michael gotta go north to forty
three then Michael A.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Uh oh, if TJ, if TJ gets that forty forty
forty point one, Michael, Michael, Yeah, Michael, I don't care
what y'all do. Forty point one twenty five cent, but
I'm gonna be the highest plate defensive player. Well you
say by a quarter, Hey, I would be the highest paid.
(01:08:41):
I don't care about how much for a period of time.
It might not be for but he'll be an excuse me, heartbeat,
but I'm gonna be the highest paid defensive playff I.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Know, I know who will the highest paid non quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
That's what everybody's going for. Chase said, I want to
be the highest paid non quarterback. Miles Garret said, I
want to be the highest paid nine quarterback. So I
think that's what unless all the non quarterbacks especially not
obviously they're not going to pay no offensive line with
no one that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
But oh, but I could, I could tell you I could,
But but d Lion went.
Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Oh yeah, because you see Miles Garrett, you saw Joe
uh Nick Bosa.
Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I can tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
I can tell you who's gonna be next though. That's
gonna that's gonna trump all three of those contracts. It's
gonna trump whatever T. J. Watt get is gonna trump
michaeh and then gonna trump Miles Garrett, card young bull
over there with the Rams too.
Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Oh ja, Yeah, he got another he got he got
he got another year to this year. Yo, he got
what he got this year and then next year. So
because this is that'll be three, they'll come see him
after third year.
Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Jayalen Carter might get I wouldn't just Friday a young
bull get about forty five fifty man for the and
and if it repeats, if it repeats the kind of
season he had left that year.
Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I don't think he realized how he Oh, he.
Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
Has to understand at this point because he've heard he's
heard it from enough people in our position. Outside of us,
He's heard it from the people on the outside and
just watching the game. He got to understand by now
he's hearing it from the people that he plays with,
including the coaches in that facility. Oh he knows how
good he is because he displayed it and put it
on goddamn film week in and week out. He got
(01:10:28):
the note, man that should I should have been a
d liveman, Man, I would have been like Aaron Donald.